It's just like the old radio show with the addibility to swear a lot from
a mac of All trade studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler dots Je
Bram. It's bilified but Bill Moran podcast oil, Hello and welcome. Thanks
for getting your pot on, Thanks for telling a friend. That's how he
spread the word about the pirate ship. You telling your friends and they come
aboard. It's always funny because I'll run into people and they go, hey,
man, I didn't know you had a podcast. He's checked it out.
Love it love, love what you're doing, and I go, good,
that's good. It's spreading like the age cards that Danny found. Did
you hear about that? That? I don't know? Key? He wasn't
here, so I got I got a picture of it. So I was
a flea market in Austin, Texas, because there's flea markets everywhere. There's
a huge flea market, right, and there's this dude playing this is no
joke like thirty or forty five records. He's got two turntables and a microphone
like like Beck. He's played forty five s Mariachi band? Did it?
Did It? Did it? Did it? Did it? I mean it's
like almost annoying, right, and it's loud, but it's hot. And
we're going through these different you know, vendors and everything else in different tents,
and of course my wife and my friend Brad Davies his girlfriend, they're
going through and they're looking at the clothes. Oh, this looks great,
and Brad and I really got nothing to do because there's really nothing for guys
in there, right, And then he finds this section where people are where
people are selling these old pins vote for Kennedy in sixty, right. They
thought that was cool. So he bought one of those. It's one of
those reflector ones where if you look at one angle, it's got Kennedy's face
and at another angle it says vote Kennedy in sixty. Wow. So he
bought that because it's a collector's item. And then I keep looking. I
go, oh my gosh. There's trading cards, not just any trading cards,
AIDS Awareness traded cards. I don't know want each awareness. I never
heard of it either. Basically, it's like baseball cards. That's the thing.
They show pictures of Sea Everett Coop, Freddie Mercury, Rock Hudson.
She should have bought a pack people who have died of AIDS or have led
the charge to like Nancy Reagan, to fight against AIDS and raise awareness one
of those special insert cars with three drafts HIV on it. Well, so
it came with like a condom inside too, I think, really, yeah,
I should have bought a card. I have never heard of these,
Yeah I got. I got a picture of a pack the condom hold up
the bubble gum from the eighties. Well that's the thing. But like,
I'm like, AIDS awareness cards, are you kid me? Probably that's where
I'm wondering eBay or if yeah, here they are rock Hudson AIDS in Europe.
See Everett Coop collect the Fight against AIDS and medical facts and celebrities.
What year did these cards get made? It looks like it would probably be
in the eighties. Well yeah, clearly the eighties, but holy shit,
they it is. And there think about the cars trading card? Who would
be trading age card? It's just what I mean. Age is like you
didn't you didn't talk about it, Rodald Reagan, Rodald Reagan and oh Tony
Fauci wouldn't talk about it. My grandfather going, uh, you don't want
to get age. Sit in your ass and keep your mouth shut. John
Rookie car first. But who never, that's that's an odd thing because trading
cards would be aimed at young people. Yes, like like like old parent,
but most of the time, if you're eight to ten years old,
you don't have the okay, see every coop isn't somebody that related to kids.
Rock Hutson at that point was on Dynasty. He was dead nobody.
He went on Dynasty, nasty. He went on Dynasty and he started looking
really terrible. And I forget who the woman was that was on Dynasty.
So I watched the Rock Hutson documentary that's on HBO, and I think I
got aids Ears Ears Ear aids. No, I'm kidding. That was a
terrible joke. It didn't go anywhere, but no, no, no,
no, But uh it was a really interesting documentary in that here was this
guy who was from the Midwest, Uh, kind of that all American dude.
He's like another John Wayne type. Yep, well refined like Clark gableman.
I would say that you're not wrong in terms of the man's man thing,
but you took It's like you took John Wayne, and you smoothed the
edges, you know that ruggedness, You smoothed it and you made it like
a little softer and uh. But he had a thing for the guys.
And one guy even said he was so hung He's like, he's not sticking
that thing. And me sas it. I first out laughing watching it,
but he seemed to be a very caring, uh loving guy. Married for
a brief period, but that was more probably a Hollywood arrange marriage, although
nobody really said that. And then I'm trying to remember the woman who was
on Dynasty and they did a kiss scene and then he found out he had
aids, but he did everything he could to try to protect her in the
scene, and she she knew it and said to him, you like,
I forget exactly how it was, but she so appreciated what he did.
Was it Dinah Shore was dyast? No, no, no. But the
thing that was really interesting was he was in a movie Giant, and my
dad thought, like Elizabeth Taylor back in the day was just stunningly beautiful she
was, and he told me, you gotta watch this movie Giant. Gotta
watch the movie Giant. Now, the movie Giant had rock Hudson, Elizabeth
Taylor and James Dean and James Dean and Rock Hudson supposedly didn't get along like
Rock did not like him. And Rock did an interview and was asked about
him, and they play audio from this interview. It sounds like he's on
the phone being interviewed by like a radio station or something, and they bring
up James Dean and he says, I wasn't fond of that fella, and
they say something else and he goes, I won't talk ill of the dead,
and he wouldn't say another word. He never said another Like he was
really a gentleman to his core, you know what I mean. Nowadays people
go, well, I tell you what a fucking asshole that guy was,
you know, say so in that movie. James Dean died in real life
before that movie ended. Drove his Spider Porsche nineteen fifty five Spider Porsche,
one of the most valuable cars today. I think they sell. I believe
Jerry Seinfeld sold a nineteen fifty five Spider Porsche for five point three million dollars.
If I could ever own a car, that's the car I would like
to have with the least it's only two point five that's the thirty six thousand
miles you can negotiate. Get how about how much do I have to put
down the residual? Yeah? You have to put one million. Yeah,
but the residual Billy got lock in that pot. Tell you this. I
have a theory somebody somewhere owns the car that James Dean drove off the cliff
because they had to go get it. It was a suicide. Was I
think it was a drag I think he was. I think they had the
landing wave and the flag. I don't know. We'd have to look this
up. I'm pretty sure he was drag racing, and I know that they
had to go and clean up. Was he drag racing Rock Hudson Billy the
remains of the car, Well, that's what I'm getting. Okay, they
hadn't get the remains of the car, and somebody somewhere has to have the
wrecked spider and I'm going that somebody. I guarantee that would go for millions.
Someone would spend millions of dollars on yea million. I think about James's
James Dean's jacket that everyone was talking about, right, I mean, the
cars get self, it's gotta be worth even more than that the wreckage.
Look, how could you somebody look for that? Yeah, but somebody has
it, and I go, why why don't we know about it? Yeah?
Well what are you doing with it? Like you could probably sell that
for a lot of money. Yeah, I'm sure you could even just spell
the parts out. Okay, listen, So all a car. But it
turns out that I guess James Dean and all they say is like James Dean
did some stuff that a lot of guys in Hollywood would do to get parts
and things like that. So right, so there were some when they say
selling your soul, I guess some gay instances that James Dean did. And
then well there are stories about Brando doing the same thing. Yeah. Rock
Hudson supposedly made advances at James James Dean or towards James Dean, and James
either didn't respond, and so therefore that why they don't like each other.
But they that there's something Okay, so I don't know. But now did
they get to the part in the documentary where his last relationship was with a
young guy and he didn't even tell him that he had AIDS. He knew
he had AIDS, but he didn't want the word to get out, so
he didn't tell his boyfriend. Jeez. I think I don't think that that
was in the documentary as much as he was going to Europe and trying to
find treers and get treatments and things and it wasn't working, and he was
over I thought he went to Germany. It might have been it was Germany,
I don't remember, but somewhere over there, yeah, and some states
over there. So somewhere along the line that was the that was the case.
And then Ronnie Reagan. It was finally Nancy who told President Reagan,
hey, Rock has just died of AIDS. He's our friend. You guys
were actors together. You need to talk about this and you need to get
funding and research behind AIDS. And he wouldn't do it, and Tony Fauch
you wouldn't do it either. It's been documented. Well, I think they
wouldn't do anything because they didn't. I think there was other factors. I
think there were other people at play. And I think it was a gay
man's disease. Well that was what they were looking at it, and I
think it but they're also, we weren't going to help these right, these
guys. He really wasn't until Magic Johnson announced he was HIV positive, that
people realize, Oh, it can happen to me too. Yes, I
would think that that's fair because I think there was a question was was Magic
gay? But as you see if you watch Winning Time, which I'm always
torn because I'm looking forward to taking a few days here and catching up on
some of those shows. Because Winning Time, I had the book, and
I love Hard Knocks, and I have n't. I've only watched the first
episode. I'm not sure if I want to go back to Hard Knocks or
not. But that has nothing to do with this. The but in there
that Magic says, you know, at one point he gets a woman pregnant
and he's still talking to Cookie, and he does eventually, as we know,
he marries her. Yeah, but as a child, and he says
to her, yeah, and I think while he was HIV positive, the
baby and Cookie didn't get infected. Yeah, but he said that, you
know, I just I like the pussy. Basically what he says in Winning
Time. I don't know if he says in the book that's why I want
to get my magic. Johnson Sally that side. I want to get a
sign that gets this. I like the buzzard. Do want some more on
these AIDS cards? Yeah, yeah, it's bay. You can get a
whole set one hundred and ten from nineteen ninety three that include Freddie Mercury,
Freddie Mercy's and the Arthur Ash Arthur Ash. Yeah, he blood transfusion.
He announced it right, I think after Magic did Rock Hudson's in their magic.
Yeah, Liberaccia Liberaci have aids. Yes, we fact we interviewed his
ex boyfriend, this pool guy who he had a he and the pool guy
because Dennis Hoff, who's also passed away, took him in when his his
brothel. I'm being technical here his horrors told him the story about this guy.
He was homeless now all of a sudden, So Dennis Hoff took him
in, gave him a wardrobe, and he goes, We're gonna parade you
out of radio shows and tell your story about Liberaci and Michael Jackson everybody else
you've been with. And Liberacci made sure that he got a face job to
look like Liberacci. Imagine bank yourself. So that was that's what he did.
That was in the movie with Matt Damon and Damon and Michael Douglas.
But Matt Damon it was asked to have the operation to look like Liberaci.
Yeah, and he he had to go. They had to do one kiss
single. We'll only do this once. They do a kiss scene. Well,
and it was like they said, like, okay, we're done,
We're good. We're good here. But yeah, and we interviewed that guy
and we go, well, did you have AIDS? He goes no.
And I was with him like about a year before he died. So I
don't know, like if it just didn't happen or he he got lucky yeah,
or whatnot. But they're all he died too. Interesting thing, So,
did the AIDS cards come out in the early nineties out there? That's
Ryan Whiten's in there, Ryan White Yeah. Yeah, but but it gets
AIDS is one of the cards? Who gets AIDS? A brief history of
AIDS? Yeah, what is AIDS and what causes it? Okay, So
the government must have made these or or not for profit. It could be.
I mean like, well, when Magic Johnson was HIV positive, he
and our Senio Hall did a video for Blockbust that you could get for free
to get awareness to learn things about AIDS because they because the perception was out
there once magic God, Everybody's like, Okay, well then can I get
it too? Because I'm not gay, and I've never had a blood transfusion,
and I don't use drugs. And so those were the three, you
know, the three types of people that would typically get AIDS at that point,
and so or can I get it from kissing somebody or hugging somebody?
And so he and our Sineo did a video that would go out and if
you went to Blockbuster, you can get it for free. It didn't cost
you anything, and they let you rent it. And I think at that
point a lot of a lot more people started like doing more for AIDS awareness
because at that point many celebrities had died of this. So on the back
of each card is the individual's biography or information on the topic or organization to
pick down in the front of the card. The AGS awareness cards were distributed
in packs of twelve along with a condom. They were written by William Livingston
and they give you that, but I'm trying to find out more information.
Baseball cards stick a bubblegum AIDS cards you get condom. It was created by
a comic book company, Eclipse. Because they're all drawings of people, they're
not the actual pictures, so I don't I wonder if anybody bought them.
I don't ever remember hearing anything about this, do you there's five sets.
There's five sets on eBay and four have been sold. How much? See?
Because there was no price tag on it, and anytime I go to
a flea market, I don't see a price tag on something. I'm like,
I don't want to probably probably bargain, haggle with them a little bit.
That's an interesting idea and kind of I guess forward thinking for this comic
book company to do the cards, I don't know because they sold them.
That's the thing that was it for like AIDS research? Wow, I'm gonna
I'm hoping is that the money would go or was it like when you go
when you go to get pizza and your weight and you see like the little
quarters in the thing, and like a person a royalty fee has been paid
out, Dude, you find out that none of the money goes would be
the equivalent at this point COVID COVID trading cards or here it is In nineteen
ninety three, comic book publisher Eclipse and a Prize Is released a set of
one hundred and ten AIDS Awareness trading cards courtesy of an anonymous donor. The
Museums Archives Center acquired a full set of the cards for it's Lesbian, gay,
bisexual translator. This must be I must have skipped a piece here where
they said, somebody who's finding. The cards feature a variety of HIV AIDS
information and organizations, as well as personalities who died from AIDS. We're currently
bat or we're currently battling the disease, or we're involved in AIDS awareness.
The cards depicted individuals like Queen's Freddie Mercury, fashion designer, Halston lawyer,
Roy Cohn founder, Yeah, the founder of the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, Elizabeth.
The back of the cards provide her son still alive by the way too.
More information on the individual topic and organizations depicted on the front. And
uh yeah, Irvin Magic Johnson. They have they had one's a terrible drawing
off. It's really bad. N a C. Green. It does even
look like at all. It doesn't because they dis agree with the virgin until
ninety five. That's that's interesting. Under the guidance of so it says here
Jan and Dean mullaney. So based on UH. Eclipse Enterprise was founded by
the brothers Jan Jan and Dean mulaney. Weren't they the guys who sang a
dead Man's curve? Initially it could be on UH, but that's why I
was you too, Yeah, And one of them got got hurt in UH
and wrecked his brain in an accident going around a curve in a car.
Focusing on graphic novels and comic books, the company, under the guidance of
Dean's wife, moved into producing training cards as well, and during the eighties,
again not Eclipse, towards two new projects. The company released a line
of non fiction trading cards that sports and other stuff, and then the other
focused and the AIDS cards. Wow, that's really very very interesting to uh.
Yeah, to me, I had no idea they were even around,
And I can't imagine, Like, what would you do with them? Right?
Hey? Man? Put them in the spokes you're a wheel. They
make a gray sounds like who are you gonna trade AIDES cards? But would
you admit that you have AIDS cards and trade? But they could be a
great way for my health teacher to talk about AIDS. It could be you
know what I mean and go, hey, this is and what I don't
know. I remember the remember the first time they explained how AIDS worked,
how people could get AIDS in school. And it's funny because we're talking about
this in Austin because we all remember when it happened and we had a teacher
explained to us, no, you can't get AIDS by shaking hands or not
washing your hands. And then she went to detail. We go, well,
how come it's always like my grandmother says, it's gay men. I
don't know what that means. So the teacher, like very professionally, goes,
well, sometimes men are attracted to other men's We're like, okay,
and one of the men will get a cut when they have sex, and
if the other man has AIDS. I'm like, well, what, like,
what are they using knives? Like legitimate questions? Well, you're a
kid, kid, you don't understand how this freaking works. It's yeah,
those are tough. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I mean that
these were legitimate like questions that we had. He's still looking for the answer
he doesn't help. But then when Magic got it the year after YEA,
all of a sudden, people, okay, it's here's how you can get
it through hetero sexual sex. There's gay sex, there's all this transfusion.
The transfusion is at that point had been phased out. They started spreading the
blood screening, the blood right because of guys like Ryan White, who are
who went out And he wasn't even allowed to use his school bathroom like that.
School didn't want him. That's how he became famous. Everybody was so
he didn't know, worried, and no one wanted to see other kids get
this either. And boy, what a fine line you gotta walk because you
don't want to isolate this, this young kid, but at the same time,
you don't want to put other kids at risk, and you sacrifice the
view for the many, you know what I mean? Magic terrible thing for
he's got to be the record holder for the length of having this. Yeah,
I mean, is it possible he doesn't really? Haven't he say it's
undetectable. I think he's undetectable at this point. Well now, so I
don't know what that but if he stopped taking his medication, it would probably
come back. Yeah, it could come back. So like you're on it,
like when you take like Elizabeth Glazer's son, he's been on medication all
his life, so he's lived a normal life, but he has to continue
to take the medication the rest of his life. He can't have sex with
someone at all, Like I would even it depends on like the prep,
the prep kind of pills that could take or medication, because I would even
think, like the person, let's say you fell in love with somebody and
you know, it comes to that point and like a Magic Johnson not not
gay, he's sort of in heterosexual, but you go, could he could
you bring yourself to that wondering if you would get a life authoring? I
don't know, now, I really don't. I'm not even trying to be
funding or dirty. You really well, there was a discussion what an interesting
dilemma to as well in Real World three, remember San Francisco at MTV.
Yeah, Pedro was gay and he was HIV pods actually had full blown AIDS
at that point. And there was a woman named Rachel on the show who
was a diehard Republican and they always put people against each other and they had
a discussion in the room. She goes, Look, let's say you were
straight and I fell in love with you. Because you have AIDS, I
can't go any further with you, she goes. He goes, I disagree
with that, and I appreciate your opinion on it. But he goes,
I'm not going to defend your opinion on that. It's really sad. She
goes, I know, I feel terrible, but at the end of the
day, I think most people's lives are at stakes. Well, the thing
isn't well. I think you could take politics right out of that. I
think you get down to individual people's safety, my survival. You're telling me
that being in love and having and being intimate physically intimate with this person could
kill me. Yeahs where Rachel says. She goes, I'm out, dude,
Yeah, I'm out. But I don't think that. I think take
political affiliation out there. Oh yeah, I bet you. I'll go four
out of five Dannists recommend tried in. I'm going, but what's the fifth,
guys, probble five out of five Dannis, You're going, don't fucking
do it right right right now? It was just Oh, I think for
each individual person, it would be different and yes, somebody who was really
in love ago, Look, I it's they're not detecting anything in you and
blah blah blah right right, and the doctor. That's something where you have
to go over with your doctor. Could you ever yell at that person then
you get mad and go you know, you get a huge fight and then
you turn around and you go, banged you even though you had EGS kind
of loved your question, my loved you, son of a bitch. Like
in the early in the early nineties or age really gained steam. And then
one of the show Life goes on. Yes, they did an episode with
one of the characters. I think it was Rebecca's boyfriend. Yes, he
had AIDS and he got it from like a blood transfusion. Well, okay,
we're going no, no, no, you're not. You're bringing me
back to something because I was thinking, as you said earlier, you know,
Ronald Reagan would not utter the word AIDS, and I is horrible that
that that would be that people that could used to help in the research and
the funding from the government and other even like if the government does a lot
of times, private industry then goes hey, you know what, this is
a great thing. We'll do it too, that he wouldn't do it.
And I wonder if it's a generational thing. Yeah, because I will tell
you my grandmother, who I loved an adored, but I to two houses
down there was this this kid and I used to hang out with the kids
on the street when I would go down in the summertime and all, and
there was a family, a bunch of boys who used to play ball at
all and there's this other kid. He was just quiet and I used to
go over and talk to him, but he never played with everybody. But
I love talking about like radio and top forty music with the guy and all
this stuff. And he was he was interesting. And his dad wound up
leaving his mom for another guy. And my grandmother used to always say to
me, call him fruity. There's go I don't know why I hang out
with that friend, little boy, But at this point, like was he
was he like kay two? Yeah? I think he might have been.
I don't know. He certainly never made any advances toward me or anything.
I thought he was interesting and smart and he was like, you know,
one of these men. So we would so when I would go down there
like all the other kids would have nothing to do with him, and they'd
be off doing something as they got older, in cars and stuff with their
older brothers, and he'd be left behind. I'd go hang out with him.
I didn't live there. I was just visiting my grandmother for a short
period of time. So I said to him on, I said to my
grandmother once, hey, can Stephen come over and swim in your pool?
And my grandmother had what they referred to as a bottle cap pool. It
looked like the old soda bottle caps above ground pool. Yeah, And I
used to do things like, uh, you know, I was a kid,
I'd wake up early. My grandfather was a New York City fireman.
Sometimes he worked a later shift, So my grandmother in the summertime, that
place was like a tomb. Man. It was nice and cool inside with
the air conditioning. She had all the shades down and it was silent.
Man, you could have slept the two in the afternoon, not fucking knowing
it, right, But I'm a kid, saw him up by like eight
o'clock. I'm gonna I'm losing my mind now I've been up to six.
I'm losing no one's around, there's no noise. So I used to take
I used to get fully dressed, and I would go out, and I
found out if I just sat, they had a floating device that would also
be like it was. It had a seat in it, right, so
you could use it in the winter time to go sledding, or you could
use it to float in your pool in the summer, right, so it
had a seat, so you wouldn't So I would sit fully dressed and sit
in it and just wait and just float in the pool. And I would
wait, and sure enough, by ten o'clock, the blinds in her room
would go up, and she don't, and I'm she'd go, Eddie,
Eddie, look at the boy. He's flugging in the pool. You got
your clothes on, your damn fool. You gotta get him roll and you're
screaming. And that was like the entertainment for me, right. I loved
it. So then I asked her, if this kid can come over.
This kid, I mean, the pool was probably four and a half feet
deep, maybe five feet, I don't even remember. And he comes.
He's got earplugs and one of those no those things that come around and picks
but it comes around your neck and put it on. He's got all this
stuff and he's gonna get in the pool. And I don't know where to
look. I don't know what to say. I'm I'm ready to burst out
laughing. And my grandmother looks, think O, such a fruit, And
I didn't know what to say. And I think that that whole generation of
absolute intolerance, for that absolute intolerance, if you were not a man or
presented yourself as a man, didn't They had no in mains mainstream society.
There was no room for you. I really believe that. And if you
look, and I think many men's lives were ruined. I think many women's
lives were ruined as a result of a man who couldn't be himself. So
it was, it was terrible. But I think that that was sort of
the Reagan thing. And then when Clinton came in, and then you started
to see some changes. That's all Bush and then Clinton. Yeah. And
then so when Clinton came in, I think there was magic had just announced.
You had aged use I was in Fisher, Yeah, so magic had
just announced. Then three weeks later, Freddie Mercury died and then all of
a sudden, in like ninety three, he had Pedro with the Real World,
and so President Clinton when Pedro died, because they think that show took
years off his life because towards the end of the show he was pretty much
dying. And then after the show ended, he married. He tried to
marry like as much as you could back then it wasn't legal. He married
his boyfriend and then he was gonna go do this tour talking to different TV
affiliates about AIDS, and he called in sick a couple times, and he
had no insurance. And then MTV figured out he was dying. He's on
his way out, and so they did fundraisers for him to pay for all
its medical bills and everything else. And they did a whole like kind of
a documentary on Pedro dying and they got his family to come over from Cuba.
President Clinton helped take care of that. And after it was over,
President Clinton did a speech. It was pretty classy. He goes, now,
nobody in America could say they don't know someone personally with AIDS. Yeah,
And he was right, and he was targeting you know, our generation,
younger people. Well, I mean, that's really where you want to
kind of strike because you're like, some of these older folks are not going
to change their mind on things. That That's interesting because I do remember.
So I had a girlfriend and I remember going she had She and her roommate
went home, and her roommate's boyfriend and I stayed out. And it was
like wintertime or something. And I had learned when I was over in Spain
the slang for a gay person right like ar slang. I don't want to
say the word it's unacceptable anymore, be unacceptable there, but I would say
it in Spanish. So there were two gay guys who lived downstairs in this
renovated house off Harvard Street, Oxford, I think it was. And so
I remember like being outside and yelling, saying, saying these words, and
we're laughing, and you know, hey, what are you guys doing in
there? Uh? Now, this is like ninety two, ninety one,
ninety two, and yeah, and then I remember seeing one day one of
the guys must have had aids and the other guy carrying him cradling I think
I told you still he was cradling like you know you would have a child,
and helped him get in the seat and all. And I remember watching
that I was probably I had to be older because I had already gone to
Utah, so I was twenty one twenty two. I remember standing there and
going, oh my god, that is one of the most loving things I've
ever seen. And I go, I will never ever ever say this shit.
I said ever again, that would I couldn't. I was so ashamed
and embarrassed. And then it seemed like I believe that man passed and the
other guy moved out of that apartment or whatever. And then I would run
into that guy every once in a while and he would just sort of look
at me, and I would always acknowledge him or something, and it was
never rude, never anything, but I was like, God, damn,
what a horrible, horrible thing. Like I was a I was drunk and
thought it was funny, and I was with other guys, and I was
awful, fucking awful. Like if I ever heard one of my sons do
that, don't it would be it would take everything in me not to.
I don't want to say, punch them in the face, but like choke
them, put them into a headlock, and drag them away, you know
what I mean, not physically hurt them, but like around their mouth and
shut their mouth and drag them away because for no choice of their own,
they were different. Right if you're born that way, and for that you
got to be called names and harm and think about that. But so you
know all the influence in society, I would like to think. But man,
when I saw that, that completely changed my whole perception. And I
remember thinking, like, love is the purest thing you can have. Right
If if love is the purest if all things come from as you would say,
God and Jesus or Spirit or whatever, it all comes from pure positive
light, then how can this be bad? How can two people loving each
other no matter what gender they are, How could that possibly in any way
ever be bad? And I remember thinking that at twenty two, going it
can't be so why would we tell people and then just ostracize and just go
after them? And I really like it, I don't. I just remember
I can see exactly where I was standing as I watched that, and I
remember like it was arresting in that I like frozen my tracks. I remember
going, holy shit, And that's when I thought, why would we ever
do this? If love is the purest thing, and and love comes from
God and you're gonna say all these things or wherever you believe that, what
does it matter? So why would we say that that's wrong? Love can't
be wrong, You can't. Yeah, I've always treaded carefully because because as
a Christian. Yeah, because it's like the Bible says what it says,
yes, and I'm not but no, no, no, no, no
no, no, I know that. But tell you that was my in
that. Yeah, yeah, you know, I know what you mean.
Like, I've actually had conversations with other like well read evangelical Christians about this,
and they and I brought this up. I said, Look, if
you could be born without a leg, or born with half a heart,
or born with with like fewer chromosomes or more chromosomes or something like that could
lead to like a life book, why couldn't you be born being attracted to
your own sex? Right? And at the same time, you know,
they have a relationship with God. They could choose to accept it or they
could choose to deny it. But that choice is among them. All you're
supposed to do is provide the information that the book says, and you pray
for them, and you hope that they make a decision for Christ and whatever
happens for that is between them and God. Do you see what your stupid
AIDS cards did? Well, you brought up the AIDS cards. I thought
we're gonna talk about the building. I didn't. I didn't why, I
just all of a sudden, But I mean, it's a fascinating discussion because
in ninety six though, everything kind of turned around. They had the AIDS
cocktail, and all of a sudden, people stop dying of AIDS if they
had the right insurance. Yea, if they had the means, if they
didn't have insurance, like in the city of Rochester, eight is still an
issue. It's still an issue with poor people. It's still I mean,
like being poorn in this country is one of the worst things you could be.
Yeah, when it comes to medical issues. Maybe for anything, but
certainly medical stuff. Yeah, all right, we'll lighten it up. Sorry,
Kevin, jeez, Yeah, got a little heavy there. Well you
didn't have to look up the price of those AIDS cars. But now I
want to actually go to eBay and get them. No, but interesting because
I had want to click the whole suff I've never heard of them. Yeah,
well either, but I feel like that's why I took the picture like
they have eight's cards. Yeah, I was living under a rock, not
a cock. Damny. By the way, After I see the AIDS cards,
terrible, terrible, Kevin, Why would you say this? So here's
the funniest part of this whole thing. After I see the AIDS cards,
I look at the person running the little boat dagg, I go, do
you have golf war cards? She goes, what. Yeah. Back in
nineteen ninety after the golf War, tops put out golf war cards like tanks.
Yeah, pictures who's pictures of shorts? Cop was like the Mickey Mantle.
You got the Schwartz cop card. You were the man. Did you
get them? Kevin? Have them somewhere? I have something somewhere. Do
you really interesting? Last time? That was the last war America was completely
united for. Yeah, yeah, we'll get Sudam. We'll get that Sadam
who what's his name? Who's a oho? Kay? Who's saying all right,
we'll take a we'll take a moment when we come back, maybe we'll
do the You sent me a story about an old couple. Two stories about
old couples. Opposite ends of the spectrum. Opposite ends of the spectrum.
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take a light and from the sky we bring a strong man to this bag
and knee. You may be young. The mom cry, you got to
hide it high, you got the jump bed run, you got to hide
it. Hide it hid the old maid. It's down the road, old
man, it's down the road. You're coming around a curve. You're gonna
run into that old man. He's coming Folkard. He got sued for plagiarizing
himself with this sliarizing himself. Yes, yeah, so like when he was
a CCR he went to a different record company. He had a falling out
with his brother and the other guy who ran the record company. They thought
he was plagiarizing up running through the jungle, Yeah, and he won the
case. I love this great sar, but I mean it's really about like,
hey, you run, you jump, you're having a good time,
but the old man's down the road. Get ready, you're coming up on
the old man. And in this country, we don't really appreciate elderly,
Like in Japanese culture, it seems to be like, you know, matriarchal
and patriarch very very ya. They're the head of the family, head of
the family and all that. And there are times where like I've often thought
of if you could go to like a Saint Anne's and talk to some of
these people the lives they lived, Like how interesting would that be? I
wanted to do something around graduation time and no one called me back, and
I called it from places, and I wanted to talk to older people and
go give the class of twenty twenty three advice life advice. What would you
say in a graduation speech? I think that would be fascinating. I'm a
very curious person and I'm very curious about what they would say. What they
have lived and what they think now, because I do believe we all evolve
as we go along. I like to think, you know, I'm not
the same person I was five years ago, and I think you know what
I'm saying, and I thought that would be interesting and h And now that
my parents are getting older and watching them, I almost appreciate them more and
want to you're supposed to learn. I don't want to say others mistakes,
but like, for example, my dad I think is lonely where he is
and would which to have be around more people and makes terms of choices and
things that you do and who you hang out with. You know, yeah,
I remember, like when we work together. Your brother had this elderly
friend named Arthur who's in his eighties. He's still alive, yes, oh
kidding, Wow. So Arthur was one of these I don't know if he
had kids or a family, but he did. Oh he did, okay,
But he would hang around with like people like your brother and like if
he had like a young girl he'd been did it with it. This is
a hooker. He would tell the waits and stuff like that, but he
was he would be funny. My biggest fear like I don't have kids,
and what doesn't have kids? And if you know, if we don't have
each other, if one of us passes away, the other one might grow
up and grow old alone. Yeah you know, Yeah that's a scary thought.
Yeah, it's not one you should probably dwell on take care of yourself.
Yeah, but it's something that you know, those relationships with the nieces
and nephews and things. I think of your dad, you know, like
I mean, he's got kids and everything he does, but everybody's all scattered,
and I think that that's the thing. And then like my brother has
a party Labor Day weekend and he has a band and a slipping slide and
we had gone up there a couple of years ago, and I'm gonna trying
to slide out of town and do some stuff and then trying to make my
way that way as well. And he said to me, hey, here
are you going, man? And I'd love to go. And then we're
talking and I didn't know what to say because I all, you know,
I don't know where he is. He's got some health issues and things.
And he said, uh, I don't know if I really want to make
that drive, and all I goes, ah, it's not the first party
I'm gonna miss, and hopefully not the last. But I figured the next
party I'll be at is my wake. And I was going I got whoa,
whoa, whoa, whoa. So picking him up, he goes,
whoa, Yeah, I know, I gotta go. Like I said to
him, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nah. I don't mean like that.
I'm just saying, well, you know, and I think that you
get older, you start to wonder is the is the party over? You
know? You know uh, and that we don't have that appreciation. We're
almost you're forgotten. We put you over here, We isolates you. The
old you know, the old man is down the road. And yeah,
a lot of times we forget about the until we get there. We don't
appreciate you. Like I have an uncle who was a little bit older than
than my father would be. My father would be in his seventies. He
died at fifty eight. It was sixteen years ago, and this is the
next closest brother in age and he's already a shut in. Uh yeah,
And I'm like, but he was he like the cool uncle. He was
like the fonds, you know, he wore the leather jacket, rode the
motorcycle. He was always laid back. I'm like, well, we can't
let this happen. Ladies didn't get the Silver Creeks in about ninety seven and
they're just getting aids now. The but you you talk about that, and
you sent me the story about the old older couple. Uh, don't,
mom, We guys we could say old. He's seventy eight and I don't
know how old. The woman was seventy something, around the same age.
They went to high school together. He was a football player, she was
a cheerleader. He had a huge crush on her, and uh, and
then he had seen her about ten years ago, but they went and got
married to different people and had kids, like together. Did you read the
whole article. I think I read the whole article. I think they went
and had kids and different things, and then, uh, they saw each
other ten years ago, but he was in his mind she was always the
love of his life, which was odd to me because I went, well,
certainly the crush, the do you never fully realized? So maybe that's
it because he said like she was he wouldn't ask her out because she was
almost too perfect. And I think every every guy's had, every guy's had
that that person. Uh. And then when you break through, sometimes it
could be the worst thing ever, or it could be the best. You
could really go to fight out unless you ask. I mean, the worst
thing they could say literally is no, yeah. But at least you know
they this is bad audio. It's cell phone audio. But then he had
her fly to meet him, or he was flying to meet her, but
they met up at the airport, or they were going somewhere, and he
had gotten all their family around, and they had only been communicating for about
twenty days and hadn't seen each other in ten years, but talking every night
and texting and all this, and then he get he'd put a pillow down
and got down on the knee, and UH proposed this is part of the
fun of this for me. Let me see, let me just make it
so we can pause it. Part of the fun of this all because of
course I'm a dick. Is this is happening in an airport, and you
hear somebody go, I don't want that package chips like right in the middle,
you don't say, or I didn't need that to listen. So because
it's shut from pretty far away, I think because they're they're trying not to
clue her in to what he's going to do. I saw you laughing.
Yeah, he is funny day since every saying likes pretty would I think every
hour and party every night, durs at long dis hold you if my arms
tell you how much you need to me. Now here's the thing that I
start thinking. He's saying all this stuff, But I'm pretty sure he has
children of his own. We have with somebody else. So that person wasn't
the love of your life? See you mean he wasted that what was time
to or wasn't a way somebody wasn't that generation? But I mean what we
do. But the other thing was or wasn't a waste of time. Maybe
it wasn't and maybe you didn't know. And as time went on, you
realize this person is still here and I'm still here. That's the love of
my life today, my last weekend. I've built those dreams and made them
are reality is from me. Your growth with your friends, you're all,
your quick and your love. You are the most incredible person I've been,
most incredible person I've ever met. That's where I go. If you had
a wife or some point it's gotta be pissed. It's a compassion to those
less fortunates like Josh and Russell remove Wire have touched my part and gaged me
in ways airport chatter be trying to sense, to be amazed and laughing.
Con stop. You are everything that I've ever wanted in a partner, lover
and friends friend. It's got a gross Yeah. I come to you humbly
today. You attornieth it for pols. I want to spend the restaurant everybody.
It won't be that long, honey, I swear it. Maybe two
good years you'll have together to make it every day and exciting him with you.
But the wake up in your arms every morning to share a dream and
aspirations. What dreams and aspirations that you hope you wake up to this?
But you also got to you got to take into conscertion. He can't say,
you know, he has to say the person I wanted it most of
my life. You can't be like, well you kind of also the other
person. You're still here here, you and another person loves with my life.
Like John call parbably once said, I wasn't my wife's first or second
choice. Yeah, I mean, look if the person died and you could
say that was the love of my life. They've left and you've always been
someone who was so I don't know, well, divorced, then that person
probably wasn't the love of your life or another. I love you more than
you get, express get more than you would never co I wanted to spend
the rest of my life that to you and making you the happiest woman in
the world. You, Nancy, he the honor me and my soul,
me, this life, my partner, and every severe if strange, if
strange men are proposing to you. Please John Smith, please report to gate
A six turning away. What doesn't leave your engagement ring unattended? What a
sweet thing? Right, here's a And look, I think there were people
that I had nothing to do with this or just waiting for playing. We're
like, oh wow, it kind of got sucked into it. And here's
it. I would say, I can understand. I don't know why you
maybe you don't want to get married, but I could see where you would
want the companionship, lifelong engagement or a life or something which is companionship.
I mean I could even see, you know, my dad, there's nobody
really and uh, you know he's he talks to people at the gym.
I always wonder if he's always know, well, when you meet the second
love of your life, full light a little better, will mikeet a little
bit better? But we'll get you that same audio thank you. I would
like I can steal the speech. She never know that's it's sweet, right,
And it is something like there's something about companionship. I know a woman
that my mom went to college with. Her husband had died a couple of
years back, and she remarried and they're in their mid seventies. And I
think, I think some people I know when why And I think on the
other side, some people just really enjoy the companionship and they found somebody and
there's nothing wrong with that. Well, yeah, you know, it's nice
to have someone. It just is Jackie o'nassa or Jackie Kennedy o'nassas, yes
said once that the first time you marry, you'll marry for love, second
time you married for money. She married er style o'nassas, who was the
equivalent of what a billionaire would beat today, and then the third time for
companionship because she don't want to die alone. I think she did she get
married a third time time. I don't know. I don't know if she
did or not, but that's what she famously said. And you know,
there's there's situations where older people, you know, they don't want to be
alone and I don't like because they've been with somebody their whole lives or whatever
it was. You get up and you're just like, you feel like you's
no purpose unless you have somebody to share it with. Find somebody that you
have companionship. And I mean, yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe that's
what she said. I mean, we know somebody who got married for the
third time, and I think the third time was probably their best one.
Yes, absolutely, you know right that that's the one that seems to fit
the most. And the real love I don't know I have. I don't
want to say too much, but I don't know. Now. On the
other side of that spectrum. Also in the news today, an eighty nine
year old man so this guy was seventy eight and eighty nine year old man
with dementia is believed it has killed his eighty nine year old wife in Yates
County. Yeah, strangled her, strangled her. Now, sure had it
coming fifty three. Of course I couldn't stop thinking like last night with the
whole thing, and I started going, Oh my god, but I mean
think about he had to. And then I started to wondering. I go,
eighty nine, it might be the tail end of World War two because
most of those guys would be over one hundred. But could it beat Korea.
I'm wondering if this guy, like, yeah, just having a dementia
moment where he thought he was being attacked or something, it's horrible. I
mean, could you imagine if you're fighting World War two, you'd have to
be like in the twenties, which means you'd be like pastor nineties. So
he's probably like Korean War. That's what I'm thinking. That's what I was
going. So I was going, I was wondering in my head, I'm
trying to make excuses for this man with dementia in my head because I'm going,
at eighty nine, you did nothing all your life. I think normally
they would say, eighty nine year old guy with Mandy Pryor's nothing right,
probably a great citizen, wonderful neighbor, raised a good family, and now
killed your wife. Eighty nine, They say he has demensioned. They say
he's like can't even talk. He's in some incapacitated state. They found him
on the bathroom before she had passed. Uh. But I was like,
damn or has he been planning this for years? Well, that's the other
thing, is like I just can't take it anymore. I just can't take
its meat loaf anymore. But this was in Kukin pen Yan in Uh at
like two thirty in the afternoon, So I don't even know how. Oh,
a home health aid came to check on him as it was so they
so these are two older people. If you can't talk, I mean listen.
Well, they said, it's a tough situation, said the chief of
police. He said, it's really a case by case basis making sure that
people get the care they need. In this particular situation, I don't think
the family did anything wrong. I think it was a freak incident. It
was really unfortunate. But Uh, police believe the man killed his wife by
strangling her with a bath towel. The woman's body was taken to Monroe County
take into the Monroe KNY Medicals Amner's office. Police said the man is medically
incapacitated. So it sounds like they're giving him some kind of medication or something
and unable to communicate. Did they say if she had any issues, would
this be like one of those? Just that he had dementia? So I'm
wondering. I mean, that's a lot if somebody has dementia and then all
of a sudden, you know, you get freaked out, you see something
from the past, you have no idea what's going on, and then unfortunately,
this is what happens. Yeah. I remember when my father died.
A friend of mine had said something to me at the funeral home. He
was trying to like he thought he was comforting me, right, and he
said something goes, hey, look it could have been worse, right,
I go, what do you mean? My father died of cancer at fifty.
How could be worse? Well, my grandfather's seen out and he pushed
my grandmother down the stairs. He's got all sis, you know, so
like, once it get your brain, it gets to your brain. Man,
it's over. So I take your dad over my grandfather anything. And
I'm sitting there going and he means, well when he's saying this, and
I'm like, I can understand where you're feeling jailed for this? What do
you do? I think you just gotta like keep him medicated. And yeah,
I mean why you're at the trial if you're the family, right,
it's your parents. Yeah, you got a heart the family figure it out?
What a heart wrench? Well, what if in this guy's mind,
like I mean, if he got the mention, he could have thought she
was breaking in or he could have thought he was mercy killing her too.
Maybe she had a health issue or something. He thought he was doing her
a favor. I'm not saying that's the case. There's all kinds of different
We have no idea. But the thing that we really just true could be
any number of things. But I would say, just like the song,
the old Man's down the road. So if you can be the seventy eight
year old guy who still has his faculties and can move around and has some
life and wants to be with someone, go do that because this old man
could be just down the road. How many more? What do you got?
Oh? Absolutely? I wonder if our generation is gonna go a lot
of that dimension and Alzheimer's. And I say this for for a couple of
reasons. One obesity has made it so that our generation is not gonna outlive
its parents. So I don't even if we're gonna have enough people that old
to do that. But there's also the other side of things, where people
are enjoying longer retirements because they take better care of themselves. So if you
take better care of yourself, are you going to face dementia sooner or later?
Because eventually you lose everything? I mean, most people do. I
don't know. It's it's it's fascinating to me how this all unfolds, you
know, because I mean, there's they're not any closer to a cure for
Alzheimer's. They can kind of slow it down, but at that point,
if people are taking better care of themselves, will Alzheimer's still be a thing
or people living not long enough to get it? I don't know. I
don't either. I we just saw something today, Uh, didn't we,
Kevin? Wasn't there something that came on the Alzheimer's to the cure up again?
Yeah? But no, But I thought we saw something. I thought
maybe you weren't in here. I thought I heard something saying, hey,
give to this, We're getting closer to a cure. It was a commercial
and and I hope that's true, because what a tough way to go.
But you know what, I always think this is terrible. I know where
you're going. Where am I going? That? This is just like,
yeah, they're always going to say we're getting closer donating. No, that
wasn't what I was gonna say that. I feel like it's the human it's
the person fighting going to the other side. You're holding on, but slowly
you're slipping away, but you're fighting to stay on, and slowly you start
losing, and more and more of you just kind of slips away, slips
away, slips away, until you're you're gone. I don't know. I
yeah, maybe that's a way I think of it to almost be comforting,
like slowly you're you're gone, but you know, hey, just let yourself
go. I don't know. I remember. I'm not gonna say, like,
who was the organization behind this, but they were. They were pushing
this in twenty eleven, right, they're saying, we really could end cancer
by twenty twenty maybe maybe could we. Well it's twenty twenty three. That's
like, and that's my point. It's like I haven't heard anything to say
that we're any better, Somebody shut them up, you know, I big
money, big pharm up. That's my point though. It's well, look,
I mean this guy's still alive. I mean, I think you really
believed it. We have this horrible disease aids right, Yeah, and they
were able to at least keep it at bay. Yeah, they're going to
say, right, and they've seemed to do it with some cancers. I
mean, we had a guy sitting in here, Deputy Hurley, who had
talked about some stuff. He seems fine, so but I don't know.
Yeah. Interesting, All right, we'll take a moment when we come back.
Since we're on the old man theme, I got an old man rant.
I think this can go permeate society, and I have a funny feeling
that at least one of you two we'll be on my side. All right,
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Man. It sounds like it's it's popping. It's the end of the night.
But we got a family in their shopping right now. I'll come with
their two twin twin sons and they're picking, picking away, trying to get
the right pair of shoes for back to school. I got see back to
school? Is there? Tell me about back to school and what's happening at
the Plug in the East few Mall. So right now, obviously we got
kids going back and left in ten days for the city I believe out in
the Pittsburgh and Brighton area as well after the Labor Day. But yeah,
it's right now. We're just running. Me have two promotional tables that we
carry. One is going to be all peers on the table, buy one,
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hundred dollars or less. Okay, so it's not some of like your high
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feel like spending the three and four hundred dollars that we have for some of
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push from over there, or if you have a wife who just loves to
shop for shoes. Yeah, you know, honey, what about me?
Let me ask you. Did you guys still have to carry the Jordan casual
shoes? I missed those. No, they don't make them like they used
to. There are a few, but they don't have them. Because it
based everything that we use based on what the resall value is. So it's
not a true resll value on it, then we don't bother it because it
doesn't make it for us to, you know, charge you double for a
shoe that doesn't really have that value on it. Got you okay, Well,
if they're autographed by Magic Johnson and you got I gotta take it for
a ride recently, that's why. Yeah, autographed jersey from Magic Johnson.
Oh yeah, the store for you, Danny, that's true. I could
put it up there Dad, maybe get it on consignment. Rick, I
don't know if you have time. If you're, you're welcome to join us
in studio next Wednesday. If you're, if you get around, I'd love
to see you. Okay. Yeah, I'm definitely trying to get out there.
And you know this, this is a crunch week for us. Yeah,
because of that the last few days. Yeah, so I'll definitely try
to see if I can get out to come sit in with you guys again
because I enjoy you guys. It's fine, well good, but I just
appreciate you guys for checking in. Yeah. Well, thank you, Rick,
and get out there to the plug in the East few mall as you
as you heard a table with under one hundred and uh you've got to buy
one, get one half off table as well, sir. All right,
thank you, Rick, no problem, appreciate you guys. See you there.
So we'll start I think two day for a Quintas, And I think
Greece is back Wednesday, Wednesday or Thursday next week, so it's less than
it's a week away. Right. It's New York the last state to go
to back to school, because I know in Rhode Island they're already back.
Yeah, Maine's already back. They're already back. Yeah. My my niece
and nephew went back, or Anny their main So I don't know Jamison has
been back. I think I think his school he's going to a different school.
They started later August, like the twenty first, and uh but hit
the other schools in his area had started the week prior. Okay, yeah,
I mean these kids are also done, like may you know, yeah
in one hundred and fourteen degrees as he said down there. All right,
so we're talking old man, old man down the road. I I'm starting
to have an issue, and I think it becomes a societal thing. We
see a lot of bad behavior these days, do we not. We're not
seeing a lot of bad behaviorsh everything. Everyoney's got a phone to that behavior
out here. Everybody's well behaved. Just people throwing up and peeing in the
bushes. But I think, like, yeah, you know, like the
key is and all this stuff, and we I mean, like the city.
I don't know what's going on down there. And we did what people
shot the day and broad daylight and oh yeah, jeez, I mean for
crying out loud. Yeah, all that kind. At least wait till nighttime
please. So is it okay? You were just in a hotel, Yeah,
a very nice hotel. Did they have like a breakfast that they served?
Yeah. In fact, as a matter of fact, somebody sent us
breakfast. I don't know who, Okay, on the last day we were
there, I thought it was my boss, You're welcome, And it wasn't
him. Was you? It was you two? No? You, No,
you were somebody sent us breakfast. Somebody called somebody sent us breakfast up
at seven o'clock in the morning Central time to our room. It was like
eggs and bacon, toast and jelly and coffee and juice. And I said,
hey, Bill, my boss, Hey, thanks for scause I didn't
send that. So then I text Wesley, our old friend who lives in
as they go, hey do you send me breakfast? Goes No, But
that would have been a nice touch, wouldn't it. And so then I
text my buddy Brad Davy. He's like, did you send us breakfast?
Because no, but you know what I should have You know, I should
have said. I'm like, no, you shouldn't have done anything. I'm
like, somebody said that's breakfast. So I go down to the front desk
and I go, hey, can you tell us who set us breakfast?
They go, well, it's on your card, sir. I go,
I didn't order breakfast because I wouldn't order ice tea with breakfast. Somebody sent
us ice tea as well. I go, and I would have probably asked
for pancakes. But I was very happy with the free eggs and bacon and
stuff. It wasn't on your card though. No, all right, you
got room one tens breakfast. But here's my thing when some times if you
go and you stay at it, like if you're doing one of those quick
in and ounce, you'll stay at a day's in or for best Western,
and they got the breakfast that's the best Western? Can people please just put
on a pair of shorts, put on a pair of pants. I don't
want to see your faded Elmo pajamas when you go down there. Oh yeah,
that's a thing. I don't want to see that in Walmart. I
don't want to see an your pajamas. I don't want to I don't want
to see it. I've seen it in Wegmans. I've seen it. I
feel like I see it more and more, and to me, it's rude.
Yeah, and it's it's rude to yourself. And I think people treat
it differently. I do. I know that I've said for years, people
have always made fun of me. I used to be called fisher Boy and
all this stuff because I would always wear lightly starts buttoned down shirt and I
always had one on the ready. Now I've got wrinkle free shirts that they
just take it out of the jire. But either way, it's important.
But I'm just saying, like I think that there's something to be said as
I sit here and I feel like I almost wear the same thing over and
over and over. But I I this is not a plug. But I
fell in love with these true classic T shirts. I wear the same ones.
I fucking love these things like they're perfect shape, especially fat guys like
me. Well, I mean, I just I bought a couple of very
buttery smooth yeah man, but you nt you get texts every day, fifty
percent off. The entire store got act in eight minutes. Probably I haven't,
I haven't attention, but yes it probably does. You're not You're not
off, but my I just go. I swear to god. It starts
there. And I know this sounds like an old man ranting, but when
you look back and we used to go, remember back, and then you
see those pictures. You would see pictures of Yankee Stadium or any stadium,
and people are dressed to the nine and shoots and ties and hats, and
it was almost a self respect thing. And I think you feel better like
that during the depression. Yes, and you feel better though, right,
you feel a little bit better about yourself. Dress for the job you want
is what we're told. Dress for success was another thing. Dress. I'm
not saying that we have to go there anymore, but there is something about,
I don't know, put on a clean T shirt, put on something
that a pair of pants. Let's not wear our sleep clothes to just walk
around in all that time. I get it. Third days where you don't
want to you know your house, say I'm with it, going out,
put out a goddamn pat patch. Are you encompassing this to everybody or a
kids still allowed, I would say everybody, Yeah, I mean I can't
from the tree when it's young. I come from a family where my grandfather
would probably put out a three piece suit to go get the mail. So
maybe that's a little strange. My dad wore a suit as a teacher every
day, a full suit. Yeah, not just a shirt and tie,
but a full suit. Yeah, usually a full suit a lot of times
three piece suit like and then, uh, you know, one of the
boys had Grandparents' day at there at McQuaid had it, and so my father
came up to go and he wore a three piece tweed suit that he had.
Yeah, it was a psychologist day. I gotta get some more tweet
Cleveland became a psychologist, so he put out a three piece tweets I gotta
get and wallpapering the walls with tweed. But there was always like I just
and I know this sounds old man and people are gonna go, but there
is something about having a little respect for yourself. And I'll tell you what.
Like, you know, I I looked at I've had a couple of
people in during the day recently, Uh, two big wigs. I'll say
who they are. Arnie roth Child, that's a big wig. But he's
yeah, but Arnie, even in casual, is a higher end casual,
right yeah. And he's a three piece suitter. He wasn't though, he
was in like offence golf shirt and sometimes he's got the little like chain that
goes across the tie. Yeah, he's one of those types of guy.
Then there was and then Greg came in, and then Greg was in a
in the suit and yes, and then there was then there's you know other
people. And I always go, look, I know it's a simple thing
and it sounds ridiculous, but I as I'm getting older again, we played
Old Man down the road right here, I'm coming up on the old man
run and joke every time we have a little bit now narrow all right,
I'm willing to get that in there. But I do think, like a
lot of that stuff, I do wonder could you have a better behave and
we'd see some of the shit go away, some of this, you know,
respect me, respect me? Shit where we see people fight, you
know what I'm saying, Yes, well, how you, but how don't
we start this? You respect yourself? What happened to the terms Sunday Best,
you put on some you just didn't even put Sunday Best on in church
anymore. Okay, I don't look. I understand that styles change and there's
casual. All I'm saying is, don't wear your fucking pajamas out of the
house. And I think that that says more about you and how you feel
about yourself than anybody else. I think it's rude, and get dressed,
and I swear to God, you'll even be treated better. I think you'll
be treated better if you go to the dentist and you're wearing your Elmo pajamas
or your big Bird whatever smurf shit. I don't know. I'm aging myself
here. Yeah, I think you're gonna get treated I think people will look
at you. Okay, you feel like college kids would do it all the
time that the girls have, especially the girls they have their hair all bunched
up. Well if they have juicy on. I was okay, and that's
what I told. That was one of the last things I told Sam as
we left first day class. Don't go looking like a scumbag. Yeah,
put on something you don't have to dress up. No nice shirt, look
nice. At least the first day. It's like head and shoulders, check
your I think, yes, if you got a free breakfast in the hotel,
enough with this turkey sausage and porksto put some fucking bacon on the people.
Oh bro, it was great bacon. Man. Do they never have
bacon on the free breakfast anymore? Every time I got they got bacon.
Nope, I don't stay there anymore, dude. The Homewood Sweets, I
don't know. It wasn't the Homewood. It was like the Home too.
I stayed at that in Nashville. They had like this all star breakfast.
Man, it was fantastic cinnamon rolls, nice hot centing rolls. Yeah,
I've had I haven't stayed in the hotel in a long time. They had
bacon the last time I was there, but not this time. Get room
service at moran Stock or no moran Stock is coming up on tent tent service,
I don't know. I got a text from my niece and she's very
excited that that I may be coming. It would be cool if you've got
like growhub just delivered to your tent specifically, just to show that thing.
Now where you just put the pin and they send the pacha right to you.
I'm looking for mister Moran. Heah, there's like, okay, Bill,
I don't know. Maybe I'm with you on the pajamas. I knew
I had a feeling you would be. I think you probably already any of
it in Connecticut at all. I got. I got a funny story though,
confession. Yesterday I went out to get the mail and I wear these
sleep shorts, right, and you know, like that's getting your mail,
right, But I have a black shirt on and but they're shorts. I
feel like regular shorts. Yeah. Sometimes you forget that you're wearing like sleep
shorts instead of sama the whole. Yeah. Yeah, right, So I'm
going down here, so I forget that I have these shorts all the time.
Well, these are so soft and very comfortable. Well, you know,
I get I start working and stuff, and I forget that I'm still
wearing what's essence pajamas. So I go out to get the mail around noon
and I get I get all the way down to the mailbox, and halfway
back, I realize my junk is hanging out of my pants. Hello the
front of the neighbors. Oh yeah, no, no, nobody came out,
but my weirders hanging out serious, I'm like, oh crap, So
I had like, you know, you can take your pants and like turn
them like maybe at ten o'clock. That's what I did. No, I'm
serious over here, So like my neighbors might, that's true too. I'm
a big believer in like, and I've said it before that I really like
things like the habitat for humanity because there's sweat equity and that's a little bit
of pride in that. And then when you start, like you know,
when they do these clean sweep things and you clean up your neighborhood or you
yeah, paint the house and you you fix things up and you do all
this, you start to feel better. Its ownership, yeah, and you
feel good and there's some satisfaction in that. And I was even watching I
got sucked into some stupid videos. I stay up way too late. I
get I get I think, I get overtired. I get home when I
scrolled through social media and I saw this one where these guys, this guy's
like see the reveal, but he would go up to people that were like
one old guy in a trailer, right, and who knows what the thing
is, but it's all overgrown, like you can't even you can't even see
the place right, Oh, you're stuck to the lawn. More videos too.
Yeah, this guy don't know why he weed waxed through and I go,
God, that's so fucking satisfied. I don't know why. I'll tell
you why. Yeah, man, And you can see your progress. I
can see it. Men love Men hate mowing the lawn, but they've loved
when it's been done. Well, I love having mode. That's the expression.
But like the thing is, like it's done. There's such a sense
of accomplishment to that. Yes, but you take a little pride. Ye.
Now take that feeling and let's apply it to other things in life and
graffiti, which God, if you did that, that's what real self esteem,
Yes it is. We talk about building self Esteems need self esteem.
They just need to win. YEA. So maybe the schools that are have
a uniform policy or say you get to wear what you want as long as
it fits these parameters. Maybe it's a jacket and a tie and casual pants.
We're not going to tell you all this stuff, but that's the way
it's gotta be. No jeans, no whatever, I swear to God,
everybody seems to behave a little bit better, everybody tries a little bit harder.
There's something about that that's pride and satisfying. And I think the same
thing like mowing the lawn, taking care of your house, cleaning something up,
you feel good. Who was that one Navy guy who said make your
bed every morning? The first thing you need to do is make your bed.
Now you've accomplished something. Andrew Huberman's a doctor out of Stanford. He
does all these YouTube videos. Got a podcast. He goes, if you
want to naturally build testosteron as you get older, you need to stack wins
every day. What does that mean? Anything that gives you progress, anything
that makes you makes you feel I'm going to tell you something wins. Your
testosterone is going to go through the roof. I've been you know, as
I've as I've gotten older, as there was how do I say this to
for that sounding so fucking dumbarrow, narrow, narrow? Okay, So when
we started this podcast, uh, there were changes that that came about that
made this possible. And in the beginning, I there were times where I
would question myself around every turn, and so everybody would leave. I'd be
at my dining room table and it would be like, you know, twelve
thirty and I'd be starting to I could feel myself getting tired, so I'd
reach for some crackers and cheese and then maybe I go accept glass of wine,
glass of Scotch. And I put on some weight, so I've been
trying to take it off, and I go, you know what, I
loved to run. I'm hurting any disc in my back and I was told
by doctors while I go, give it up, don't run anymore because it's
just gonna the pounding. It'll just hurt that that disc. And sometimes you
know so and then I have ankle issues. Now, I mean, you
know, old man down the road. I'm becoming the old man I went
today I was. I did a one on one with Greg Connors that will
run next week, and it's just it's a different side of things. It's
really just talking about success and when you don't feel like doing it, what
do you do? And Greg's like, I do it? You know that
that's what you do. I have a theory. I believe this. You
want somebody to do something for you, find the busiest person. You know
it'll get done. Ask somebody who's got no job and a lot of time
on their hands, and it won't fucking happen because they're accustomed to not day.
Yes, And that's what I'm saying. When you're the busy person gets
shit done. If you say to them, will you do this for me,
it'll happen. My wife is like that. Yeah, she's always like
occupied with something. Yes, but I mean if you said her closet needs
to be rear rate done. So it's just been a theory I've had.
However, uh so, I so today I didn't feel like going for a
run, and I had a bunch of other things going on. There's a
million as you can imagine, from family to others this, and uh,
you know what, I'm going to go for a run. And it was
the first time that I could actually complete the full two and a half miles
without walking. That's a fucking win. Yeah, And I know it sounds
silly, but it was a win. My ankle's hurt a little less today
and I stretched all the time. And those are the types of things.
And I will tell you the satisfaction that I had made me go, Yeah,
let's go, and I don't know what that is to the ultimate warrior.
I don't know what on the ropes. All I'm saying is fucking stop
wearing your pajamas, get your head out of your ass, and let's go.
If we started implementing more dress codes in like younger ages, I'm not
saying you have to wear a suit and tie, but if you do that,
then there is something about a sharp suit man like a nice shirt like
George Clooney always looks sharp. Yeah, Jordan Peterson's the same way he goes.
I always wear a suit anything. Our friend Wally would put you in
Wally's clothes like. See, but I could. I could be a bit
of a I was gonna say a word that I can't say on a podcast.
Yeah, I wouldn't. I still wouldn't want to say this word.
Okay, uh but yes, uh, but I would be. I like
nice clothes, like I I like nice clothes. Think of it, the
most amount of money you've ever spent on something for clothes? Clothes? Oh
well, my wife took me to or I took her. We took each
other weird store this back. Yeah, but how much would it, like,
give me, like a top end of what you spent on something on
like a suit or something. Yeah, I'd spent five hundred to one thousand
dollars on a good suit. Okay, if it was a class have you
have? I no, the most of ever spent. It's like two hundred
and fifty maybe three hundred dollars in a suit men's warehouse. But I wouldn't
get one free. I once really really deep, and that's where but I
love that. There's something about it. It looks it just looks phenomenal.
The clothes that while he makes look phenomenal, and there's something about that.
You put that on, you feel like a million. That's what I'm saying.
Put Joms off. There's a Bill's Beat reporter named Matt Perina who works
for cyircuse dot com. Right, so this past summer and the summer before
all the anytime a Bill's Beat reporter gets married, all the Bills Beat reporters
get invited, and this dude's wife picks out his suits for him. And
this dude looks sharp as a mofo. He's got a green suit, looks
like the Notre Dame mascot because he's got red hair and a beer. But
like, I mean, he looks sharp. And then the next the next
wedding, he's got a blue suit out with pitchtripes and then everybody's like inviting
in the wedding. He's just to see what he's going to dress, Like,
well, what do you think I'd looked quick? But because like he
dresses, he looks like a million bucks. Yeah, I'm just saying that
you want to there is something said. You just feel better and when you
know you look sharp, yeah, you feel more confident. You got a
night night's suit on. There is something about that girl's cos he's got a
sharp dress man, or you can be like this guy's right. This is
the old man telling you put some standards in your life. Have standards for
yourself, seriously and have standards for yourself. And if everybody did, I
think we'd have a lot less promise. Yeah we will, we would take
pride in So I'm just saying, hello, pride in yourself. Come it
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you don't believe what you you come right now that we are always loved
this album which wants this black and blue Rolling Stones missus uh cherryo baby.
He's got kind of that reggae feel. Do it now? Are all the
songs not black and blue like this? Or is this just the one?
It's just the one. He's probably one that many people don't know. But
I always loved it, always kind of like that reggae make always dabbled a
little bit in the reggae and Keith loves regah. Yeah, yeah, Keith
Richards. He knocked him so he got a concussion. He loves to go
to the islands and he has a place in the islands and he was climbing
a tree to get a coconut and he fell out a concussion. That didn't
a street story, you know, it didn't kill him, didn't even hurt
it was so high. But I gotta say, like, the guy kind
of looks like Jim Well. It's funny because you're sticking out and he was
younger, and Princess I, Princess Diana died, Elton John wrote rero Candle
in the Wind, Princess died, and Keith Richards famously said he's made a
living out of running songs for dead blondes. So Elton's response was calling Keith
an arthritic monkey. Oh that's funny, Yeah, Oh that's funny. Yeah,
yeah, he's made a living at her. Keith, Well, I
always thought Keith was quick and funny in conversation and stuff. You know.
But I love when the Brits rip on each other because rock and roll,
to me, really is British. If you're like, yeah, it is,
Danny. It started off the blues from us. How the fuck did
Brits took it to the next level? Dude? All right, maybe they
did name the ten greatest rock bands of all time. I already even I
can put the yes the Eagles. Yeah, the Eagles were great, but
they were more country. But I would say I've named nine more. I
would put Errol Smith up there. Oh gosh, no, yes, I
think Errol Smith was great early early, only seven Beatles, Zeppelin, the
Who. Okay, let me think here's Stone Stone four. Yeah, I
mean like, like, okay, now, like name let's name some other
great rock bands. Well, I can't put Erroosmith in that category. What
do you mean he can't put Rosmith? I can't put I love the Doors.
I can't put the Doors. I would put the Doors in that category
either. But I'll tell you what I would put The Beach Boys. Okay,
you put the Beach Boys. Do you think that that Pet Sounds was
very underrated? A great album? Well, nobody could harmonize like them,
right except for Jan and Dean. Could you call them rock and roll?
I don't know. Uh yeah, sure, I'm Elvis. I'm in bands.
I'm not rock bands rock bands. I mean Elvis is is Fleetwood Mac,
which is kind of a hybrid. Yeah, it's like someone or almost
read Oh yeah, I mean like you like, maybe metallic, you could
put metallic on that. Okay, all right, but they different. But
the greatest of the great the cream of the crop. Okay, but they
all ripped off American blues it made it better. Okay, I'm not gonna
say snatch and improve. I have referred to led Zepplin as the world's greatest
cover band, the world's greatest cover but go ahead, No, it's led
Zeppelin. They stole ship from everybody? Howand Wolf I mean, I don't
I mean lyrics and everything. I mean, god damn it. Credit Memphis
Mini with c but Spirit. I think it was Spirit who wrote uh,
like the opening of Stairway to Heaven. I think it was the band Spirit
and they lost every because I believe when these things go to court, I
don't think they can play the music. I think you have to read the
notes and if it's I don't know what the jury is. No, because
we just talked about John Fogerty. He had to play in court the riff
to old Man down the road and then play, uh the other one,
which yeah. But sometimes if it's like artists to artists, uh, and
not so much record company that I don't know. I have no idea.
Look what happened with Pharrell and Marvin Gay were they There was that whole lawsuit
in that I thought they did have to give the money to for you had
Vanilla Ice describing how his din Yeah, it was different than David Bowie's,
didn't Queen? No, David Bowie and Queen Queen, Yes, David Bowie
and Queen, which was John Deacon wrote that song? How was how the
two were different? Yeah? I think Vanilla Ice won too. Yeah,
I don't think he ever had. I thought Queen won that bad. Now.
A lot of times they'll just put your yeah. But a lot of
times it's a writing credit, and I don't know that always it's played.
That's my point, Like maybe that did happen with with John Fogerty. I
don't know. I thought I had read somewhere that they don't because people could
be so persuaded. You've got to look at this and try to take it
from a musical standpoint. Do these notes look similar? Could it be that
I don't know the sounds? Well, I'll tell you what. If you're
a guitar player, you could actually play two different songs in different parts of
the guitar that could sound the same. So like if you're if he's demonstrating
in court, well, look look his hands are down here for this,
yeah, and his hands are up here for this. But he's theoretically playing
the same notes went down some rabbit hole. The other damn videos and there
was I might have been ed. Sheeran was like, I can play you
anything. You name a song, I'll play. Just gonna say traffic and
Steve Winwood and I go fuck their British because I'll play it. I'll play
I'll play that song in four chords. It's every song is four chords.
Yeah, all the band's Clapton was in like but there was and Page,
the yard Birds, which became you know, the you know eventually Derek and
the Dominos and all those bands. Uh bad company, Yeah, you know.
I mean they were British, but that little island came up with so
many great rocks. Queen, how we hown't we forget? Queen? You
know why because Freddie Head aides no, wow, I just I don't know
what. Because they were stuck out a little island. There was nothing to
do, right, I have no idea. Uh so you said, you
you know somebody who had a fire family. Wait a second, the family
restaurant who got fired from Come on, did your all might have to fire
a kid to fire his brother? Yeah, at one point because his brother
wasn't. He wasn't. He wasn't doing Anything's tough, that's tough. I
only bring this up because I saw that who's the head coach of the Jacks
now Peterson, Hug Peterson, Doug Peterson had to fire his kid, basically
cut his kid, and they released his son. Okay, his son was
released on decision day. Oftentimes it's the general manager who makes that decision.
I'm sure, but I mean also the but you gotta like, yes,
it's gotta be a good sensus the coaches, but it's the general management.
How much does that suck? Like even the fact that you got picked by
you know, your dad's staff, maybe a Scott Goes, Hey, man,
we got it, yeah, let's get It's just that would stay well.
There's an old story about Monty Kiffin's kid, who is Lane Kiffin,
and Monte Kiffin was a fantastic defensive coordinator. He never wanted to be a
head coach. He's like the architect at the Tampa two. And that's which
is similar to what the Cat and the Bills kind of run. Now,
it's from that lineage, that Tony Dung lineage, and so Lane would get
a job as a quality control coach with different teams because of his father.
Well, Lane, he's finally grown up now, but for a while he
was a pain in the ass. He was the guy that we described in
the last segment. It's someone who would get up late and put on pajamas
to go to breakfast right by the way over Labor Day weekend. Please don't
do that. Yeah, if you're going somewhere, please just have a little
respect. So his first job of quality stop and see you and your fucking
pajamas. Well, his first his first job of quality control coach is with
the Jacksonville Jaguars. That Tom Coughlin, who was like, you know,
says Jaguars, Jaguar, and a British frustrac says it's Jaguar, not Jaguar.
There's no wa I call it jaguar. Jack you are I say Jaguar.
I say for the car, and I love the fucking car. And
it is a British car. H spie, he don't want to nice maserati
h. I love the jag though, man smooth as glass. Damn they
classic jazz jack. But when Lane Kiffin was the quality control coach, which
is the bottom of the barrel, you gotta you gotta be the guy who's
up before everybody else, right, And he wasn't. And finally like his
a man fire Coughlin fire. Okay, but it was like this. He
would keep getting second chances because of it. His father. Yeah, well
he kept getting fired, but he kept right like failing upwards. I've always
said to my kids because of connections I have had and connections they make on
their own. But you know, all I can help do is make the
opportunity. You got to walk through the door. You know. I do
think that even like McQuaid, you know, I think that those kids get
a lot of opportunity because there's a lot of connection there and there's a lot
of right. But you got to walk through the door. And if you
don't walk through the door and hold your own on the other side, I
ain't my think that's you, baby, right, that's you. So there's
opportunity. Since we're on the football thing, I saw something today that concerned
me on Good Morning Football, and I had the volume it was muted.
So the cry on or the bottom cross says, are the bills? Why
are the Bills not getting a Why are the Bills not a buzzy quote unquote
buzzy AFC team. Are they losing some buzz and some momentum now? I
mean, clearly all the attention is on the New York Jets and with hard
knocks, Aaron Rodgers, Aaron being miked up, Aaron calling. I mean,
they showed this whole thing from last night's I saw on Good Morning Football
for a few minutes when I had to volume up, they were showing this
whole thing where he's calling the place and going over to the coach and go,
hey, he's opening like that guy. If this is true, I
go, how the hell can he see it? He's talking to these young
receivers and like a boss would, but not in a dicksh way, just
going like if you just break a little bit outside, and think he's like,
oh yeah, yeah, go see if you just came that would that's
what's gonna happen. And sure enough the next one and they go, whoa
beautiful play? And I'm thinking to myself, and is there a chance because
I heard out of Kevin's mouth and they were talking about a Patriot receiver who's
got a very unique name, pop something Poppy. I think he's a rookie
he's been with the first team. He's named that because his grandfather died when
he was won, so they just started calling him poppy or pop. And
this kid is supposedly like the real deal, and they think that they were
not showing you anything that he could do and had him hardly on the field
during any preseason games. So is there a chance that the Buffalo bill could
be at the bottom of the AFC East? Flori'll think so. Mike Florida
had a whole article on Pro Football Talk about it today. Really, I
think that's the best thing for the Bills though, to be under the radar.
Yeah, I agree with that. I did a whole article in the
Times when we County about respect. You don't want people to respect you.
They don't respect you existing, all right, Okay, so you don't want
what I've never complained when people don't quote respect mine because really, the only
the only team that really deserves respect, it's the team holding the trophy at
the end of the season. I agree, everybody else could go after themselves
because they screwed up somewhere along the line, right. So respect has never
been something that I'll ever hear come out of my mouth. But all these
Bills fans, oh, respect them this. I'm like, hey, idiot,
good you don't want them to respect you. Now, I will say
this, there's some merit to this because the Buffalo Bills have made some big
contracts, have signed some guys for long term context that you're like, huh,
was that a good idea? And now next year Josh Allen's real contract
kicks in, and so there's less money to spend. Now the CAP's gonna
continue to go up, and you need a great quarterback at the helm and
Kansas City proved this with Mahomes that like, you could still spend on a
quarterback. It's don't win a Super Bowl. But look, the Jets have
a defense. They have a quarterback now they didn't have one before. Okay.
And by the way, they beat Buffalo last year and they gave them
a run for their money in the other game too. Miami could have theoretically
beaten the Bills three times last year. And now they have Vic Fangio as
their defensive coordinator. Who's the best defensive coordinator in the National Football League.
Yeah, this ain't gonna be a k qualk. Oh. By the way,
Jacksonville Trevor Lawrence. They're gonna take it a leap this year. Who's
standing in Jacksonville's Jacksonville's way in the AMC South, not Indy, not Houston,
nobody, And so then you go to the West. It's a dog
fight. So yeah, it's not gonna be The Bills might not win the
division. And if they don't win the division, it means they're playing on
the road for all their playoff games, and that gonna be. That ain't
gonna be easy. Holy shit, what if they don't make the playoffs?
Then you know what's funny, it might be the worst take the bridge riding.
You know, it's funny. Some people might say that's not the worst
thing in the world, but yeah, it kind of is. Because you
just missed the playoffs and you just resigned your head coach and general manager whose
drafts have been sloppy the last few years, to a five year contract extension.
You're stuck with those mofos, and you missed the playoffs. With one
of the three best quarterbacks in the National Football Delman Barillo, going off the
cliff, I think no. Actually, like you watched me during the playoff
game last year, I was laughing by the fourth quarter. I'm like,
yep, I told you, I told you, did not I tell you?
What did I tell you? Greg? Put the top down? Let's
just score over the cliff, just try. I love my team, but
I don't like cry about him. Believe me well, I'm not looking for
anybody to cry. It's just something that since we were touching on football,
I went, man, I do I do wonder about it? I do
think. I mean, like they like to play this game I used to
play when I was in Radio two goals. Is this something or nothing?
And all the chatter about Stefon Diggs, all these people are going off about
Jason Whitlock saying that stuff on Digg doesn't want to be in Buffalo because it's
not a cool as cool as city as Dallas. We've talked about. I
think I don't think you were here on a Monday night. We talked about
is it the worst NFL city? But a week ago for a players?
Quality of life? Let's put it that way, quality of life. And
look, if Jordan Williams said it or Jordan Matthews said it, he goes
like the only thing to do here is screw That's it. Wait, he's
kind of right. Marshaw Lynch made a big joke about going to Applebe's and
Muffalo and so it willis Mcgahey. I mean it's not it's not a big
city. It's like fifty eighth and radio ranking. So think about all the
other team all the other cities that could be better NFL destinations than Buffalo.
Yeah, I'm not saying it's nothing, but it could be a little bit
of something there all the time. Now, Stefan Diggs got named the captain
today, Okay, because the players respect him, they love him. Yeah,
he'll come out and perform and everything else. But the moment the stuff
hits the fan and people start chirping and we go back to the bick ring
Bills, people are gonna talk and you have and that that is something that's
not nothing. Now, these Bills fanatics will tell you nobody knows what they're
talking about. Well, according to those assholes, nobody knows what they're talking
about ever but them. Okay, podcasters the Bills want except for the Super
Bowl, national guys don't know anything. And then the local guys know a
little bit more them, but they don't know anything. Do you know who
says that do you know who said subscribes to the theory he's laying out him.
You say that all the time about the local guys. I don't.
I don't say that all the time. I say, like what I said
about the local guys, they should break more local news about the bills I
shouldn't be getting from NFL dot com. My point is the local guys,
the local guys say the national guys. The local guys say the national guys
don't know anything, and the podcasters all say the local guys don't know anything.
So who knows anything? Really? Three I know nothing nothing. We
don't. I'll tell you what Greg knows like a ten times more than like
half the people reporting on the team. Do I agree he actually has insight?
They know the don't do any freaking work. Then they go and they
take practice and they take notes. Here are my seven observations. But the
buffaloes probably what are you doing? She'll been on fire lately. You're like
an angry guy. If I got I'm honest, if I push the right
button, I could get angry Danny to come out. I probably could.
I can't know. I have to get angry Mark helmet out too. Yeah,
but that's not fair. Let's not go there. I do no at
the same thing. No, no, wow, the bills and stuff like
that. But I I sir, what hell? Yeah, I really have
two hot button issues. The bills are one of them. Yeah, what's
your other hot button issue? Now? The state of the world? No,
Dan, the bills. Danny is a freaking pubic hair away from being
a conspiracy. Theories theories you are you ain't want to deny it. A
lot of coming true though. Why is half a milly burning? But it's
not the rich half, it's the uh, the upper middle class but not
quite The foot was an I will tell you. I will tell you that
was a Yetti and it's a store. That's true. The Yettie Storre is
based out of I haven't I love Jetty by the way, keeps everything cold
love. I love their products. Uh. What I was going to say
to you is there's a lot of great reporters. I don't know. I
have not paid much attention to Mauie. I know people who love Mauie,
and I know uh rosy O'Donnell supposedly did I a TikTok or a video that
that just asked a lot of questions that and it was TikTok and it's rosy,
all right, so take that for what it is. And I don't
even know what I don't even know what it means to say, and it's
rosy. I think some people have a bad taste in their mouth. Maybe
yeah, yeah. But she asked questions like why would this happen, why
would this say? Why won't they let people leave the island? And why
all this stuff? And it was very interesting and I didn't see it was
I'm hearing this third party, but it was all laid out, so I
don't know. I here's my thing. I don't watch a ton of news.
I read a lot. I look for things that I think are interesting.
We talk more lifestyle stuff. I always think that the silly news and
the funny news, the absurd is entertaining. But I don't know with that
stuff. And a lot of times I think that when you watch the news
a lot, it can make you depressed. Oh yeah, I really do
have to. It's a funny thing because on Unfiltered in average before they were
taping and they were talking and Stephanie said, I used to be such a
news person and I used to try to find the balance because now and I
think this is more perception than it is reality. Uh, what's the truth?
We need to know the truth is. So you're gonna watch CNN,
FOX, MSNBC, your local news. Who's given it to you straight,
who's not, who's trying to manipulate? What are the different sides? And
you're trying to figure it out yourself. It used to be just put on
a news channel and you got you got the information of the day. Unfortunately,
in the news there's always a saying that if it bleeds, it leads,
which is tragedy, and that's never an uplifting thing to hear. But
I'm not sure if the news is always as manipulated as people want to think
it is. I don't know. I don't I don't think that, But
I will say that even for your mental health, if you find yourself where
you're in the news all the time and it's just in the back of your
mind, everything's a worry and everything's at this I go. But in my
in my line of work, though, I have to actually look at that
stuff because I have to forecast, you know, where things are going in
business. Oh, but that's part of it, though, a lot of
these people who invest in these companies that I work with are part of that
other side where you're like, oh boy, yeah this is scary. Well
you can yeah, you know. Now back to the pills for a second.
There's a lot of local reporters who do great work and break stonies at
this. No, no, there's no no. And there's another half.
And there's another half who don't do ship. Yeah. Well that's the same
thing with everybody. You can say that about the world. Some people just
don't you know, you said it before. Child Ted does their work not
so much. Ted Brown's a great reporter, does a great job. He
breaks stories. Yea, he breaks stories. I'll tell you everybody who breaks
a story, everybody who like does nothing, I can tell you. I
can, I canna. Let's get those two kids from Syracuse do a great
job. They break actual bills news. I don't want. I don't want
anybody get mad at me. I've had enough they could be mad at me.
I don't care. I have no f's left to give give some names.
Day, let's go no do not all right, Well, take a
moment U something that has come in that I would love to get everybody's perspective
on This was a text to five five two or six eighty eight sixty six,
and they had to do with the fact that I was supposed to go
to Ireland with Greg and then onto the Bills game, and I said I
didn't want to do that. Now it's for other reasons, but uh,
someone wrote me about a trip that they were going to take to Ireland and
it's causing some problems in their family. We'll see how everybody really yeah,
yeah, we see how it all falls out. We'll get to that because
of the Northern Ireland thing Catholics. We'll get to that next right after this.
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the time, and every Sunday my grandfather would play like sometimes these local radio
stations and probably like they were outside of New York City, and I don't
know if there was any there might have been a New York City station that
did this, but like once in a while you'll hear like an ethnically targeted
show, like they will play Polish music and or they'll do they you know
whatever. So there was a station that played Irish music. Some of them
was fucking awful, which is endless. Boy. So my grandfather and he
had a radio that had an antenna and it wasn't like he just kind of
bent the antense, swished it in and had and it sort of leaned in
a window in the backyard and it had a cassette player in it. So
he laughed and I put you two in and he goes, what are you
doing? And I'm like, it's Irish music. It's not my Irish music,
not mine. Get it off. This is the Joshua Tree off the
josh I love this album. This is my favorite album that. Did you
see them at a rich stadium when they did the entire album? Yes?
Now? Did they go in order songs of Yes? And then they played
some extra ones after? Yeah? It was great. It was very h
A lot of bands are doing that. They'll take one album, yeah and
they'll play did they So? Speaking of Ireland, here they had that whole
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Roll Hall of Fame. Oh really, fifth floor, it's still there.
Yeah. Uh this text comes in, I have to make a decision that
doesn't seem to have a solution. My wife is a big family that loves
to get together frequently throughout the year. Now they're planning a nine day trip
to Ireland next year, and I have absolute zero interest in going. Ireland
doesn't excite me. This person that's really trying to push my buttons and I
don't want to spend They're saying eight thousand dollars per person seems a little high
to me for a nine days, but I don't know. I've never been
overseas on a trip. I wouldn't know. They said it, they said
it will run. But most of all, they are heavy drinkers and are
basically planning an extended pub tour with an occasional castle visit thrown in sounds delightful.
It does to me too. It does to me too. I would
get I would get tired by like day three. By the way, I'm
very I'm a very casual drinker, and I can't stand in the thought of
spending a night after night and allow pub. Here's where I would like to
hear what you guys think. My wife claims. If I don't go it
ruins it for her. All her siblings and their partners are going. But
if I do go, I will be miserable, which will then to me,
you'll ruin it for every I could sure you use any suggestions you might
have. Now here's the thing. I don't know what to say, because
I think in every situation, if there's someplace you don't want to go and
you feel like you gotta go. Let's say there's a family reunion, this
is gonna sound so fucking weird. Let's say there's a family reunion and you
go, I just I don't want to be around these people. You've got
to find the positive attributes of the people that will be there. So in
your mind, think of the positive attributes. Somebody's funny, somebody's smart,
they're entertaining, whatever it is, and then try to focus on just those
things. And usually everything you walk away going, man, that was a
great time, and you don't have to do it for another year or five
years, whatever the family reunion is. But I would say that so to
this guy, I think, in this case, I feel like you almost
have to go. Yeah, you gotta go, don't you think I'll probably
probably let the drunks, go get there and you go see. Another thing
is, though, when you're the sober guy, ultimately you have to become
the dad you're not. If you're out sight seeing on your own, well
you could, you could, but then don't even go on the trip.
Then if that's the case, because she wants him there, which means she
wants him with her and her family all the time unless they're sleeping together,
that's it, right, So he's got to go along with this. And
when you're the sober person a group, sometimes people break off. But here's
the thing, like maybe you break off, maybe you find with another couple
that he shot drinking today, we're going over here. Yeah, yeah,
down if they're if they're. If you're ever in a situation where you feel
you need to make friends, one thing they teach you in sales is to
mirror people. Oh yeah, and then they'll think you're the greatest conversationalist of
all time. Like Kevin, just just say something about the Patriots, You're
the greatest conversation list of all time, Dad, best conversation lists of all
time, the greatest, the greatest, absolutely, the greatest, the greatest.
Well, but the point is, just like I say something like,
we'll keep talking and they'll think that you're like really interested in them, But
all you're doing is repeating back to me. Right now, Danny, the
New York Jets are gonna win the Super Bowl this year. They have I
know he's the thirty nine year old quarterback, but the guy is maybe the
best that I have been blown away with his vision of the field. The
Jets look incredible and unstoppable, unstoppable, unstoppable. I'm telling you they're gonna
not just dominate the AFC East, but the AFC this year. Sounds like
the Jets are good. You heard it first from the Times of Way count
that's your mirroring. Oh yeah, like you mirror and then your mirroring like
that Jets sounds good. I'm trying to show I'm trying to shorten it down.
I would turn it into but like but yeah, but like I'm telling
you this, you know you're being You're purposely winking. Hang on the argument.
So here's what I would do if someone said, that's me, Like
you said exactly what I just said. I what was the thing I said?
They're to dominate the FCS do need to dominate the AFCs and then you
go, please, I want to say, dominate the AFCs. They go,
yeah, I go please. They're the Jets, the Jets. They're
the Jets, the Jets, the Jets. They sound sounds like the Jets.
I don't believe in the Jets, Danny, don't believe in the Jets.
Don't even believe. But here's the thing, like most people were unsuspecting.
We'll go off like a siren and all you gotta do is find one
money in that conversation. That's true. Yeah, I know, I know
people people hate me by now on this freaking show. I would tell I
would tell this guy you've got to go and you've got to find your way
of I don't think you need to mirror everybody, but I find someone though
that you find interesting. Yes, but I'm saying, like, trying to
find the positive attributes and talk to your wife. Go. Look, I
don't want to be drunk all the time. I would prefer not to do
this. We're spending a lot of money on this, and I don't you
know, sixteen grand to go for the two of us is a tremendous right.
So I've like to, you know, let's let's make the most of
it. But and I think if you can have that conversation in a calm,
reasonable way without saying, hey, your family a bunch of Irish trucks
going back to their roots to fucking losers, leave them there. You don't
do that, you could probably get you could probably figure it out. And
that's another way. You can mirror your wife and say, you know,
just have her think that it's a great idea. Jesus Christ. You laugh,
man, it works. I don't laugh. I just you make fun
of stuff. But I'm telling you it's tested. It works. Maybe we'll
get invited the wedding. Number three. The only mirroring Dan he's gonna do
is hit to himself in the mirror. I don't mirror my wife. It's
impervious to mirror. Yes, yes, yes, because she could see it.
Oh, he's got a mirror Another night, Another night, Really,
Dan, Danny's like, so obvious, I'm an easy mark. Well you're
not an easy mark. It's obvious when you're mirroring. All right, I
want to play this one last thing. Well, now that we're talking about
it. Short Mark Cuban was talking on a podcast and he Cuban he says
that he has traded people because they smoked too much. Wheat believe that,
yeah, this is too much. Wheat does that factor in how much you
give someone? Yes, because it's a team, right, and so if
a guy smokes too much, right, I'm no lie, I've traded guys
because he smoke too much. Because you know what's like, so teams get
their own culture, right, and if you got some young dudes on there
that are just figuring out, smoke some but don't know what it's what the
team culture is, right, or the NBA culture is. And you got
one dude that's just you know, you walk down the hall in the hotel
and you know he's on that floor, and there's no doubt about it.
And then all of a sudden, these other kids start picking up on it.
And that's kind of that. You see them coming out of their room,
mirroring the other guys coming to practice all of a sudden down that road.
I mean, everybody smokes, right, it's not about that. But
there's smoking. There's how powerful the shit you're doing is, and then there's
how much you do and if you cross you know, if you get past
that level where and you and there's a chance where you might drag somebody with
you. You got to look at the bigger picture, right that that's just
not the culture that he wants to have. Yeah, there's value. Oh
yeah, that's very valid. I'm reading in book right now by Lonnie Wheeler
who passed away in twenty twenty of COVID. I think it was a baseball
book. It's called in Tangible and he taught the first chapter. He was
from Cincinnati, so he could. He covered the Reds and back in like
the early two thousands, Ken Griffey Junior and Adam Dunn were on the Reds
and they were quiet. They weren't bad guys, but they were kind of
a loof right, but they were known as the leaders, and he had
these young guys behind them who were just kind of following them along, and
they didn't want to be followed. So the team culture kind of suffered.
So they go, hey, look, we got good guys here, but
they're not gonna Our young players are never gonna grow if these guys are still
here. So they shipped them both out and now we're like, oh,
we got to cultivate new leaders, and the team actually came to life because
they got rid of the two sticks in the mud, and every team goes
through that type of stuff. And with this like like he's saying cancer grows,
yes, right in this case smoking weed, you know, like Lisa,
the other guys smoking weed, which leads he's saying, like everybody smokes
and it's not a problem. And look, we were legalizing it. Now
it takes this one guy to have a problem. I'll pop up dispensary.
It's not even so much a problem as like, you're smoking it a lot,
you're high when he come to practice, Uh, you're not showing up,
you're you're or everybody laughs when you walk out there and they know you've
been smoking haha, funny. Yeah, and then nobody can take it seriously.
Right, So I think in those situations, yeah, that's not what
you want. You want, you know what you want? You want the
what was it the ninety two Dream Team or no it wasn't no, no,
this was like Lebron James redeem Team, the Redeemed Team. You want
them all those guys, Lebron, they all go out and they come back
in and it's like four or five in the morning and they're there's Kobe coming
out of the elevator to go work out. Ye, and they're just going
to bed. And that changed the culture because from that point on they started
doing what Kobe did. They couldn't look the black Mamba in the eye.
I'm just saying, I realized, Oh, he's in charge, better do
what he does. And that's that's all I'm saying. So that's one way
that culture and the other is like, ah, come on, man,
we get we live once. Let's have a great time. We make a
lot of money. We're gonna win, don't worry about it. I think
Kobe even told he goes, yeah, you did the same thing last time,
and you end up with with a bronze medal, yeah, instead of
a goal. That's because that's what we do here. We've had on CNN
and the Florida and it was a Dahlia all of all evening tonight and now
it's heading into South Carolina Head Island and all that star Man. But I
earlier today, I don't know why. I hit the Weather Channel and I
hear this is this not the creepiest most ominous music you've ever heard? Like
I started to go this could give me a panic attack. I feel like
This is just from the weather chat to you here at a club. I'm
gonna start playing this every time Danny goes off. Get out Hurricane in all
right, we'll close it out. Oh buddy, it's just fun to pick
on you. You say you're an easy mark. The next couple of days,
I hope we're gonna give you some highlights from past episodes. We'll give
you some new material as we head into post Labor Day stuff. But I
hope everybody has a good and safe Labor Day weekend. And he didn't anything
fun. Didn't post Labor Day get into something with Bob Dylan. Resource he
did. Bob Dylan sent post Labor Day some lyrics and then I don't know
what happened. I saw something come across, Like on Rolling Stone they had
this thing got weird. Yeah, it got and then it got weird.
You sent him lyrics and then it got weird. So I don't know if
Bob didn't want him to record them, or I don't know what the post
blow didn't get it. Yeah, I'm not sure Labor Day doing anything big.
No, I think we're gonna just chill. I'm announcing games at uf
R now two Besides Fisher for football. So I'll be announcing the U of
r Utcha game on Sunday at Father Down. You'll be able to hear,
She'll be able to hear. She'll be able to hear. Danny and Wayne
County. What are you doing, Kevin anything? Dragon? Wait? What
Buffalo Sunday? All right, well, good luck with all that. The
ice doesn't melt. Give me a highlights and some great conversations with Greg Connors
and Harnie Rothschild. All coming up. I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you
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