The Paranormal Project Radio Show, carry your hosts Scott Allen and Christina Bowen.
Hello everyone, and welcome back to the part Paranormal Project Radio Show. Christina,
it's so good to have you with us. How are you? I'm
good? How are you doing? Tonight's gott good? Good, excellent,
So good to see you. And you know, we do all of these
shows, we have some fun guests, but I really do always love bringing
in my medium friends and talking about all of the stuff that the spiritual and
the metaphysical bring. And tonight we have a guest with us that it's going
to talk about something that we have not talked about on this show yet and
I'm very interested in it. We're going to be talking about the Akashak records,
and I don't know if a lot of people know what the Akashak Records
are, but we're going to get into that tonight. And she does spirit
art and she does a whole bunch of other things. So actually, Chanell,
if we could bring our guests out, welcome Nancy Smith to the show.
How are you good? Thank you for having me on. This is
exciting. Yeah, and you also have your own show and what night is
your show is it Tuesday nights Tuesday nights on Facebook Live called Angel Scapes Podcast,
but it's all on all the podcast stations also on YouTube, so if
you can't make it to Facebook, you can find me. You can find
it later. And I love that because you get some really nice guests on
your show too, talking about all kinds of things that I've never really had
a whole lot of experience with, even though I do this like fairies and
all this other stuff. So as matter of fact, I've taken note on
some of your guests, so I got to look them up and see,
Oh, you know, so let me know, let me know. Welcome,
Welcome, So glad that you so glad you were able to join us.
Tell me. We talked a little bit about what we wanted to talk
to and I think one of the things that you're passionate about, and I
know that you and I have talked about this is the Akashak Records. Right,
what are the Akashak Records? Well, the Akahak Records really fast history.
Helena Blovatsky traveled around the world, and she's wealth and could do whatever
she wanted, and she was lucky at that time and studied old old religions,
and she found in the Sanskrit religion and Sanskrit language this thing called Akasha
or Akashak records. It is the idea that the career, the akasha is
the energy of the Creator. It's a very indelible energy. Everything the Creator
has ever created since he started creating, she started creating, is in the
Zakashak field, which people call the Akashak records. And then move ahead a
few more years and Edgar Casey started with the unconscious Prophets, started to read
from what he called the Akashak records, and he did a lot of past
life work. So many people connect Akashak records and past life work as well,
So that's kind of a little bit of the history of it. But
most important to remember is the word akasha is about energy and spirit and records
is just a recording or a collection of information in the Akashak realm, in
the big Kahuna heaven of the Creator. So it's a really nice place to
go because there's lots of information there when you go there psychically, when you
go there intuitively, and it really is is sort of like the record of
everything past, present and future, correct everything. Yeah, and we all
have our own kind of records within Absolutely, we all have our own We
have our souls, and our souls have their records. And then within each
this is how I understand it. With each umbrella of the soul or all
these lifetimes within the soul and each individual, all the way down to your
hangnails, there's a record of your experience of your life and and all of
your lives and lives on other planets and lives and other dimensions. And it's
very And that's funny too, because I was going to say that to you.
I felt like it's our soul's journey, not just us here in this
life at this time. It's our soul's journey. Do you believe that our
souls have lived on other when we have past lives? Can we have past
lives other places? Other? Absolutely? Absolutely, I've always wondered, and
I've just been a student of many of these different past life lieilosophies, And
how do you prove of past life? And you can prove a past life,
It's not a small thing to do. But yes, you can have
experiences on other planets, other dimensions. You can have experiences in your future
self because in the soul realm. Time is is not linear. Time is
more like a loop or a big bubble, and you can access that information
just by reaching out and kind of meditating or just reaching out metaphysically and getting
it so and it's really amazing to me how many times I've bumped into people
who their their past life is on another planet. I actually have some watercolors
that I painted of other planets as I saw them from from the reading that
I gave, and as I drew them and show them to the clients,
they're like, oh my god, that's exactly what I remember, or that's
exactly what I dream of, or it's very close, and it's and to
me, it's amazing that one of the lifetime was the planet that was dying,
and the beings were very ancient and they knew that their planet was dying
and they were preparing their next adventure as biological beings on another planet. It
was just amazing. That's fascinating. So when you dive in, when you
dive in to do this with them, it's not like what you think of
as a past life regression through hypnosis. It's not that it's a different way
of approaching it. Well, I you can certainly get through the past life
through hypnosis and regression, and that's still the acashic records. I'll just share
with you with that. But when I take people through past lives, I
do it more of a shamanic journey. Well, I will take them through
and they're very much aware and they can be creative. The thing that happens
when I'm taking them through, I'm often viewing the lifetime with them. So
if they come back with one or two things, I'll say, oh,
did you notice the fuzzy blue thing in the corner, And they said,
yeah, that's right. So I used my mediumship skills to travel with them
on the shamanic journey. And I feel many a few people have said I
can't be hypnotized. I've never been hypnotized, but they are able to go
on the shamanic journey kind of thing. So interesting, and I think I've
experienced I mean, not that specifically, but I had an experience once with
a woman who has been a huge help to me as I was opening up
years ago, and she is a shaman, and I didn't believe what was
going on, and we did some of these things where she took me on
this journey. But she she was with me and she would ask me what
I saw and then was able to kind of like I understand that, you
know what I mean, or she would see it or share it with me,
and I thought that that was really fascinating. Yeah, yeah, it's
amazing. It's amazing kind of what you can see and what you can experience.
I just want to also add that the Akashak realm or the Kashak records
can be accessed when you're in high levels of creativity or say you're composing music
or writing. I've seen people just kind of enter into the Akashak records spontaneously
without really realizing what they're doing. But they're getting information from that higher realm
or from a library in the Akashak realm, and they they'll come I remember
one woman who had no inclination to anything metaphysical. It was the writer's group.
We were sitting there and meeting once a couple times a month, and
she was writing this memoir of this thirteen year old woman from Ireland and how
she got onto a boat and came to America and how she did and the
memory was so specific, and I'm looking at her I said, have you
ever researched? She goes, no, it's just coming through me. And
I said, oh my god, it's you know, I wonder I didn't
know if it was a past life where she was just talking to another spirit
who was describing their life to him. And that's a Kashak work as far
as I'm concerned, see, and I love that. It's fascinating, and
I know you teach a like a mentorship on the acashk workers to you and
I have also talked about because I'm fascinated with it. I just don't know
what it manifests itself, you know, how does it manifest? How do
you How do you know you're there? And I've done guided meditations where we've
gone in and you know, you can see, But I don't know if
that's it either, do you know? Yeah? I think I think it's
one of those things. You you do it, you have the experience of
it so you get understand what it is. Somebody explained this to me once,
how do you know past like you're not just inventing it or making it
up for instance, And he said, well, you know, it's like
if I tell you now, I want you to step into and it's a
cold, rainy day and and you're you're freezing and and you'll say to me,
no, it's hot, I got to take my sweater off. I'm
really and and it's very arid and it's almost like a desert here. That's
when you know you're in because it's specific and you can't change it as much
as you try to change it. And in some ways, when you're in
the Akajha records, you can't decide that you want it to be something else.
It is what it is. And that's when you know that you're connected
to an intelligent memory kind of thing. So have you have you been doing
that a while? I mean, how do you you know? Is that
a big part of what you do now is the Akashak and the Kashak work.
And even when I do my mediumship, I open up the Akahak records
so that I it's like a boost. It's like it's like putting a special
little boost in my ears to hear more because I'm in that Akashak vibration,
the Kashak field of energy. And I want to say that when we pass
over, we're in the we go to the Akashak realm. It's the energy
of the Creator's it's heaven. So yes, it's a big part of what
I do and my mentorships really work on self healing and connecting yourself to your
soul and self awareness and understanding the what I call the three levels of consciousness
within yourself, so that you can maneuver through how you were created physically and
the ego that you have, your aware of self, and then your higher
self, and how you integrate them all. And once something aspects of ourselves
become integrated with our soul, our soul is really wants to know what we're
up to and what we're doing and wants to have that information, yet we
hide it from our spiritual self. And I want you to know how bad
I was yesterday. But what I call that integration work. Some people big
talk and New Age about ascension, we're ascending, And I said, well,
this is ascension work. This is when we integrate our life's experience with
our soul and that information is in the Creator's realm we're in. That's it.
That's what we're here for. If that makes sense to you, I
do. I think it's I think it's great. So and you also do
spirit art, which I also am fascinated with. I know that, and
I've had this conversation with other people that when I see spirit, I don't
know if I see them as they are or if I see them as how
I need to understand who they are, right, Well, I tell you
it's both. Let me tell you. Can I just talk a little bit
about that, Yeah, Spirit, I will. When I first started drawing,
I was seeing spirit. I was actually seeing their faces clairvoyantly, and
I was trying to sketch it. As a matter of fact, I could
look at the paper and a shadow a face will come up, and I
would sketch you other and I would sketch in the shadows, and that's how
I got my faces. But then after a while, Spirit kind of evolved
me into they just wanted me to do automatic, and I'm like, I
didn't want to do automatic. I just wanted to be I wanted to know
what I was drawing. And so now I can get information and faces or
faces that remind me of somebody else so that I can get the information that
I need to give to them. But I have to let that go and
just like the face flow through me. So I have a system that I've
created about so that my mind has a place where what to do with the
information is this is where the forehead goes, this is where the chin goes.
This is the perspective or the proportion. So I get them correct and
then I say, Okay, now we've got this going on. How big
is the nose, how white is the nose? Where? And then I'll
get a feel for where it goes or where it doesn't go. And I
have to say, these are not Kodak moments. I don't know that any
spirit artists has done a Kodak moment except for except for maybe Coralpold. And
then then there's the other guy, Frederick. His name is Remington, but
he they're amazing spirit artists. But I have captured enough usually for somebody to
recognize, yeah, that that's in the realm of you know, Yeah he
did have that pointed chin and those eyes because something with the hair kind of
thing. So did you were you were you an artist before or did that
just kind of come to you? You were? I was? I was
illustrator. I went to Risdy when not in school design and did a lot
of figure drawing, a lot of work. And then just as this phenomena
happened to me. I was drawing portraits of my kids, my friend's kids,
because I was at the age where we were all having kids, so
I was just sketching them for money. So and then then all of a
sudden, I had this opening and I drew and I started to draw.
Faces started to show up on the paper, and I started to draw those
faces, and people were recognizing them as being their loved ones who had passed,
And I said, what the heck's going on here? So spirits snuck
up on me, I think, But I kind of jokingly say that,
you know, unless your grandmother looked like a stick figure in life, you
probably not. I couldn't get him mixed it from me. I don't think
that's not gonna work out. So did you open up later in life?
Was this a later in life? Well? I think so. What I
did is I was always kind of really a sensitive kid, and I always
excuse me. I always saw things that weren't there, you know, and
my imagination was crazy. But then over time kind of shut it down and
didn't pay attention to that crazy stuff anymore. And then it was when I
had my kids, and when you're a mother you have to have eyes in
the back of your head. So that just triggered my intuition and it got
stronger and stronger. And the thing that finally put it into place was my
daycare provider had a murder in her family. Her brother in law shot and
killed on the job, and they were upset and weren't quite sure what's happening.
And I'm listening to her and all these little kids are running around and
some and there's a phenomena of when you touch something of get what was the
name of that, When you touch something, information starts coming through his there
is you've said it, I'm I'll get it. But anyway, she the
car that he was killed in was flatbedded into her backyard, and all the
kids are running around. She said, oh my god, can you help
me. I have to clean this out for my husband sees it. He's
going to be so upset. So I went in there and collected the papers,
put them in garbage bags, figured out what stuff needed to be meetened
up, and brought back into the house. And when I did that,
this man's spirit just centered into my orc field and started telling me one story
after another. I thought I was just losing my mind, and so that's
when I really yes, psycholotry, Yes of psychometry. That's it. My
first experience with mediumship was through psychometry. And and when I went home,
these faces would not stop, and so I laid out all my sketching material
and they started coming up from the paper and I started sketching them. I
had did five or six or seven, I can't remember how many. Brought
them over to her and she recognized that's my brother in law, that's my
father, and that's the guy that just came to my house, and I
swear he's the one that shot him. And it just was hebgb's everywhere.
So all of it went to the police for several months and then it came
back to me, and of course you never know what happens, you know,
and they don't say much in those police investigations. So that was my
first police investigation. And so that's that's how it started. And I didn't
even honestly did not know what mediumship was and did not know what a medium
was, and I had to learn that. So that was it. I
guess that was a little later opening up. Yeah, And I feel like
for me, it was not what I saw in the movie, so I
don't think I recognized what was really happening. It took a while. Plus
I worked in a funeral home for thirty five years. I can ask you
that. Yeah, yeah, you think, get me that happen while you
were working in If you're a home, did you ever have a say there
was? There was? Yeah, it was over a period of time,
but it was just coincidences. Oh, they're just coincidences, you know.
There was that kind of thing. And then I remember towards the end of
it, I remember feeling like there's something around me, Like I could feel
it, like why is it moving? You know? I could feel like
there was something around me. I could feel energy with my hands, which
I never thought I could feel before, and to be able to manipulate that.
And then I started noticing like there's people walking up and down the stairs.
I could hear it, and and and actually, I mean, I
think the reason that I do all of this sort of paranormal stuff is because
that's how it manifested for me. It felt like a ghost. I felt
like I had a spirit attachment. Is what it really felt like to me.
It was almost a ghost story. And it's not like that now,
I mean, and once I learned to control it, you can shut it
off and kind of go about your life. Yeah, that's how it started.
That's how it started for me. And it was really actually kind of
frightening. Oh yeah, I bet you can shut it down like that.
I can, and I try to. Some of it I can't. There
was I've had been in a couple of different houses that have had spirits in
them that didn't want to leave, and I tried like heck to get him
to just be quiet already because he liked to make noise at night, and
so I couldn't quiet him down. But when I go grocery shop and when
I'm out in public, I'm very sensitized sensitive, so I have to shut
it down, and I just bring my aura close into me. Sometimes I
imagine shutting my third eye. And sometimes I put earbuds in my ears and
play either play books on tape or I'll play music just so that I can't
feel the vibration of everything around me. So, yeah, I do have
to shut it down. And if I don't shut it down, right,
Scott, if you don't shut it down, your it's draining. It was
draining. It was draining. Although I feel like I'm a little different in
the sense that I have it perpetually shut off. I mean, we set
that intention a long time ago that it's not on unless I turn it on.
And so when I'm out and about, I tend to be distracted and
I don't notice, you know. But when I sit and do a reading,
I'm like, Okay, it's time, you can come now, and
taking all sunglasses. Yeah something, there's some kind of sing. But I
told you. I do the when I open up the Acastak records when I
do Mediumship, and that's my way of really I'm opening up and then I
close. I say a prayer that closes the Acastak records, and that closes
me. Because that's been really helpful because I was doing all of these little
opening and closings, opening and closings. But when I got into that really
I'm serious prayer that helped me really set up a nice boundary because I didn't
want to turn off my intuition about my life in general, but I didn't
want to talk to Okay so much. So I'll tell you this story really
fast. I lived next door to a undertaker, had great neighbors, they
moved out, the undertaker moved in full of attachments. You could feel them
and want all the time and see them. So one day he came home
and I heard the shoveling of this dirt and I looked out. He had
taken a bunch of loam from the cemetery and put him in the back trunk
of his car, and he was shoveling out to put them into his garden.
And you know, dirt is a really good medium. And my kitchen
was full, and I had said everyone out of here, and oh my
god. This one time I was getting out of the shower and this one
man had passed in his I think in his forties. He still had younger
kids, and he was panicked and he was he didn't have a shirt on,
and he said, I have to find my wife, I have to
find my kids. I don't know. He was a little bit worked up.
And I said, well, hold on a minute, what happened?
And then I started to get the information of what he had a very fast
cornary and he wasn't and he was still kind of trying to sort it out.
So he was not quite on the other side yet. That doesn't hardly
ever happen, and I was surprised. So I brought my team in,
my eight team of angels, and I said, I have really good messengers
for you, and I hooked them up with the with my helpers. But
I think that I had that experience because I was right next door to the
Undertaker and they had a fast track over to my house. And I don't
think in general, you know, people who deal with that, they've just
they've shut off all of that because you just have to do your job and
that's it. So he's bringing dirt home or whatever else he's doing. He's
not even thinking about it. He's just, you know, I just gonna
there's some great dirt, let's just put it in. Meanwhile, you're getting
bombarded. So he's walking his dog down the street and I'm watching, you
know, there's at least one person following him. I'm like, oh gee,
this poor guy. And he was getting more and more cranky. So
he needed a good clearing and he needed a good talking to. But anyway,
I just had to tell you that story. Well, it is fascinating.
Do you see them. You don't see them visually, like sort of
externally, it's all like mind's eyes stuff. Yeah, mind's eye, Oh
you're there. Although have you ever had this experience where you see something at
the corner of your eye and you look and it's not there, but it's
there. It's like the peripheral vision can be really active. And so sometimes
I'll I'll say, wait a minute, that's the third time I cut that,
and I'll start talking to them. I have a strong sense that when
we pass, or that when anyone passes, there's a whole team. We're
worth a whole team right now, and are like, you've got your guidian
angel, you've got your healer guide, You've got all this. So when
we're in the process of passing, all of those guides are there helping you
move to the other side. So I don't necessarily think souls get lost or
spirits get lost, but they can leave residual energy behind them unless they want
a specific thing, and then they're there on purpose. So I don't have
all of the answers, but I do have a sense of idea of it's
not a scary thing to pass. We don't get lost, we're helped.
Doesn't matter what you've done in your life, you always go to that loving
place you got to sort it out, and you've got to face up the
stuff that you've done or didn't do. But I don't know how many people
agree with me or don't agree with me, but it's a pretty good system.
This going back into spirit, as far as I can tell, I
think it's more scary how and you know how it's going to happen, as
opposed to when it happens. I think, yeah, absolutely, I agree.
But yeah, so you kind of feel that way too, that I
really have connected with a spirit who was mean or frustrated or out of control
or anything like that. They always I don't generally, but I will tell
you an interesting story if you don't mind, and you're the guests, but
this is on that line. And I had dinner with a friend in Maine
a couple of years ago. Her daughter is very, very, very intuitive,
and I mean extremely but she doesn't do it. She shuts it off.
She just doesn't want anything to do with it. They want something to
do with her. It's like they can see the light. She had gone
to school in Salve, Regina, which is that I think that's a newport
or something, and she was in an area that was quite haunted and she
felt like there was this spirit that followed her back home. She kept seeing
this shadow figure around her better house was not haunted, and that her mother,
who's also quite intuitive, was getting it as well, and had gone
away for a while. She was going to get married. She was living
with her fiance, and he was back and he was around harassing her,
waking up, you know, and there he is over the bed. She
couldn't get rid of him. So we're sitting having dinner in Maine, which
is like, you know, they're in Massachusetts, and you know, we
were up in Maine, and she said, do you think you could tune
into him and find out what the problem is? Yeah, Rhode Island Salve
Regina Lisa was saying, yeah. So so I said, well, you
know, let's see, because I've done some work with people who needed to
be crossed over and that kind of stuff, and we've kind of you know,
but I tried to connect with him. There was no crossing him over.
He was not a nice guy. He wasn't he wasn't like a serial
killer, he wasn't a demon, he wasn't. It was none of that.
I just feel like he was from a very different time where women were
property and he was going to do what he wanted to do and I can
do it because who's going to stop me? And I did try to move
him along, and he left for a while, and he came back about
a year later. He was back at her kid and she ended up finding
a shaman that helped her. And he's been gone ever since as far as
I know, I don't think he's going back. But you know, but
generally speaking and readings and all that kind stuff, I don't get that kind
of negativity. I don't find that at all. Most most are just grateful,
you know that you're able to make that connection. But he was just
different, you know, he was just anomaly. And I love to know
what happened. I have a list, very long list when I get to
heavenough questions, why, yeah, how? What? Why? You know?
I don't know if anyone will ever hear back from me with the answers
to the questions. Yeah, no, I wonder a lot of stuff,
right, I don't really know, I mean, and that's the funny thing
is we don't really know how it works. Even though we do this work
and we still don't know. We still don't know. Yeah, yeah,
I think there's a reason why we don't know. I don't actually understand that
reason either, that's one of the questions. But I remember listening to somebody
in the near death experience, she says, I knew all of it.
I understood everything. It all made sense. But then they said I had
to come back. And when I came back, they said, you can't
remember it, and so the veil. She said she felt a veil show
up because she had to live her life without knowing all of this other stuff,
and I, I don't I'm really curious about that. Did you feel
though, that we have to live our own journey? I mean, we
don't get any free rides just because we have the ability to somehow connect.
We still have to take our own trip. It's our own journey. Oh
that's why this mystery to it even for us, I don't even know why.
Yeah, the media, whether whether you're mediums or psychics or you have
really amazing gifts, you still have to do your own personal journey, you
know exactly. You know, there's no getting out of jail free card.
And I've been looking for that and I don't understand it. But yeah,
there's a lot of mysteries in life. But when I go into people's kashak
records and they're saying, how come this didn't happen or how come I can't
have this there, there will generally not be one hundred percent clear answer,
but there'll be a redirect or there'll be some kind of opening up to say,
did you think about it this way? And if you knew to do
this, you wouldn't do this over here, But doing this over here has
made you very strong and whise in this area. And look at how many
people you could help, or something like that, which is why one of
my question is how come I wasn't born a wealthy person? Why do we
struggle with money? And well? Because you know, and sometimes I say
that I want to know, just it is what it is. But there
are many things that our souls will design, and we actually will design it
with our souls. Yeah, and overdo it sometimes where we'll have specific experiences
to cause a specific feelings and solutions will come up and those experiences will deepen
a wisdom for the soul. So there is a design for I don't want
to say, and I'm not meaning to say, there's a design to come
in and be you know, an abused child, That's what I'm talking about.
But there could be a pressure of certain bonding patterns or certain understandings that
as you push through them, you grow and and you have a lot to
offer from that growth. So that's kind of where I'm where I've gotten a
lot of answers from, and that what's your sense on you know, in
terms of the ACASTROC records, what's your sense on people who are genuinely not
good people? You know, history it has shown a lot. You know,
we have serial killers, we have dictators, we have all of these
things, and we know they're not good people. No, And I know
this is sort of theoretical, right, I mean, yeah, yeah,
But that is such a good question because everyone asks and there's some people that
just cannot buy into some of the spiritual stuff because they want the bad people
to go to hell. And in my journey of asking that question, first,
there is some there's mentally ill people, and we have genetic mental illness
or genetic we've we've missed the gene for EmPATH empathy or become we're just born
sociopaths. So there's that and people have to learn how to live with it
or they don't know how to learn to live with it. And there's there's
no right or wrong button inside of them. So there's that, and then
there's a Neilda Walls wrote these children's books about wanting to This little angel wanted
to experience God's love and the only way he thought he could experience God's love
is to not have God's love around him, So he was going to get
born, and then his best friend ever said, I'll go and help you,
and I'll be the mean one to make you think that nobody loves you.
And it was very simplified story, which is they made this agreement in
heaven so that he could have this experience in the earth on the biological level
and go back to Heaven and realize, Oh, now I understand. And
that was really creative of the writer to write that. But it got me
thinking about if if we had life in the perfect human, the human version
of perfect, would we learn and grow what our soul wanted us to learn
and grow. So we're all free to make our decisions and make bad decisions
good decisions, or I don't care about you anymore, or or I or
I have ideals inside of ourselves that are just belief systems that are not serving
anybody. But you know, the some of the belief systems and some of
the early some of the Christians in the Middle Ages kind of thing pretty horrendous,
or you know, the I don't want to get into anything current,
but where people were justifying killing each other because of their religion and because this
is what God wants me to do. And I puzzle over that a lot.
But people justify you spirituality, justify being horrible to each other. So
what do you do with those people? What do you do with those people?
I think you got to turn it over to heaven. And they go
back and they have a long talk with their soul and they said, well
did you what did you learn? What happened? But there are many people
that then have the variance of losing their lives. For I had this experience
of losing my life and I'm a victim to somebody else's wrath, So what
did you learn from that? And I don't like that plan, but it
is a plan, So you can't really and I've judged somebody else's life based
on what you think is right or wrong. And that's a spiritualist philosophy as
a matter of fact, a little principle in there where you don't know what
where there there they've been, You don't know what their background is, and
you don't know what the spiritual pressures on them. You don't let them hurt
you. You certainly don't let people have a free ride and run hurt on
you. But to decide to judge them whether they should go to heaven or
hell isn't our job. If that's kind of the philosophy I've come up with,
Although there's a lot of people I'd like to knock their heads together.
So what are you thinking about? You know, the spiritualism believe in.
I haven't And hell no, everyone goes to home, Just go home?
So is there any kind of uh punishment for behavior? Well? Yeah,
well, but spiritualism teaches is the reciprocity or the balance of life. What
you do, what causes comes back to you and you and you have you're
responsible for what you do and say you're responsible for your own happiness. You're
so when you go home, you have to right the ship, you have
to balance the scales, you have to do whatever it takes too. And
I don't know what those things actually are. I haven't been there in a
while. But they But you do have to balance the life, and you
are responsible and accountable for how you've lived your life. There is an accountability.
It's not just you chalk it up to I just decided that I was
going to be like this because I wanted to experience being a serial killer.
So I want to go, you know, so you know, I don't
know who would want to do that, but but you are, and that's
that's a good point. You are a spiritualist. You're in the Spiritualist church.
You were you were ordained as a spiritualist and if that's the right word,
clergy journey within. I believe Lisa, she's still here, Lisa.
I think we met at the Journey Within in New Jersey when we were together
there and I guess it was September. Now she's still here, Lisa.
You can say, hi, I believe that we that we met there and
and you you were brought into Janet, who's you know, sadly no longer
with us. But do you do you serve in the capacity? You don't
obviously serve there every week because that's you know, how many Oh it's too
far, no, I but there's many spiritualist church as you know, you
know in the New England area, then I can certainly drive to. So
I do serve many churches where either you know, to give the message the
lecture work, or do the message mediumship work or do a workshop. I've
been doing that for years and years and so I continue to do it.
And in my home church, Quincy Church, I do work there as well.
I'm not a pastor of a church and I but I do my own
ministry. I guess you could call it that not trying to what's my ministry
is just to show people that they're not alone, that they're loved, and
I feel like that's the biggest message. And mediumship is to say, you
know, yes we do go home and their life does continue after the change
called death, but when we're here, we're still loved and we're not alone,
although there's a lot of illusion of being alone in this lifetime here on
this planet. For some reason, you were created human beings and social animals
and then we isolate each other. So we don't quite have the program rate
down pat yet, but any Yeah, so that's kind of my background and
it's really interesting to see the field the blend or experience the blend that's happened
for me through mediumship and then I was raised Catholic and moving, you know,
away from the although I still have a lot of the Catholic I love
the Catholic some of the beliefs and some of the things. But what am
I trying to say? The blending of a kashak record work with the mediumship
work has been fascinating for spirit to be dragging me down that pathway, but
taking me down that pathway because it's about connecting to your soul, your eternal
self, and being a partner with your internal self to have a fulfilling life.
You know, I think so, and I think I don't know.
For me, I feel like I've changed a lot since just I think the
whole spiritual awakening has done a lot for me. You know, you look
at things differently, you feel differently, and you live in a way because
I was also raised Catholic. Okay, so I have that. I have
that background, and it's hard to shake that, you know, the whole
Catholic guilt. I don't want to call it Catholic guilt, but it sticks
with you, you know what I mean, It sticks with you and you
know, I can't. I can't just separate that from who I am.
But I feel like since I have awakened spiritually that idea of a of an
afterlife and that life continues to go on, well, it's become real for
me because somehow I have a way to kind of either connect in some way
that I think I didn't have it before. It was just on faith.
Now it's on this sense of awareness experience. Yeah, yeah, you know
it, So you just kind of know it, and I think you realize
that there are people out there doing good work bringing light and positivetivity to people,
and I think that's just a beautiful thing, really and truly, you
know. Yeah, yeah, more of those, Yeah, we do.
We do. Now, do you actually have a physical location where you are
or are you just is everything kind of remote? You don't have a store
or something like that. No, I don't have a I don't have a
brick and mortar place that that happened that died along along with a lot of
other things that financially, so I do remote, but I also a lot
of my work is out of state, is people are from far away,
so so having a zoom or remote setup or or if something does or phone.
Sometimes people look like in the computer. So I do a lot of
phone readings, con conference calls. I can record them. Yeah, so
my outreach goes sometimes India or as far as India, I should say,
over England, and I did some work with people in Scotland and then wonderful
Deadmark. So I mean most is most of his people from around the country.
So hey, Brandon, thanks for watching. Now Brandon, Brandon,
Brandon. I believe this is the Brandon that I met the other night because
I was on your show. Brandon I believe is a shaman and he does
have a show. So I'm glad you stopped in. Brandon. Nice to
see you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just nice to see people
popping in and saying hi here. Yeah. It is cool. It's great,
it is. It is cool. I think, sorry, I've got
a brain like a calendar, and I apologize. I saw him pop up,
and now I'm gone, this is what it is. It is what
it is, part blonde, part gray. It's a bad combination. What
were we We were just just saying something that I apologize is just completely went
out the door as soon as I saw that pop So you were talking a
brick and mortar, and I was saying, well, I'm yeah, and
so you know I'm accessible, you know, from any walks of this for
any geographical Area's just there's no place to drive up in, park your car
and come in. No, but you know, I think people get used
to that with you know, after COVID, people realized that they didn't need
to. You know, it's still got a few people occasionally like to come
in and do in person, but the Zoom or you know, however you
do at zoom whatever, it's it's just it's it works. It works really
well. Do you travel? I mean you and I met in Quinsy at
the Spiritualist Church. Yeah, And the story behind that was you're having that
demonstration class on platform platforms with Sheila French from England. England and I had
lost my mom last year and I was thinking to myself, it was you
know, what am I going to do on Mother's Day? I was dreading
it. I have to tell you, I was dreading it and all of
a sudden, I can't believe there's this class on platform mediumship on Mother's Day.
I'm going because I just need to be doing something else. And so
yeah, I don't know why it was on Mother's Day. I don't care.
It was just a great thing and it was perfect for me. And
it was a small turnout, I think probably because it was my it was
Mother's Day. We had a long conversation about why are you doing this on
Mother's Day? Well, then that's when you can come. But it was
I won't do it again, but I'm so glad you came. I'm so
glad for me. I mean, I probably would have liked to have come
anyway, but the fact that it was Mother's Day, it was like that
was that was the extra piece for me because I knew that I would be
able to stay focused, So it was it was perfect and glad to do
that. And then I met you, which is great, and you know,
I appreciate everything we do. We have a new connection, you know.
Yeah. No, I was thrilled, absolutely thrilled to meet to meet
you, and you were you actually came in and you were really focused and
you're really ready to work and you were there one hundred percent. And it's
like, this guy is awesome. This guy, No, I don't know.
Well, you know, the interesting thing is I've only been to the
church in Quincy twice, the Spirituals Church of Quincy, And the first time
I was there was in November of twenty two and I came and it was
odd. My mom had been brought to the hospital. She was coming home
the next day, but she was coming home on Monday. But I was
there on Sunday and they asked, you know, who do you want healing
for? And I put her name in the basket and that kind of thing.
And I went to the service and people were so friendly. There's another
man there and I can't think of his name now, but he also does
spirit art and he just took me around and was I know, if he
said his name, I probably know who he is. He's an older gentleman.
But he oh, James, Yeah, James, that's it, James.
And he took me around. It was showing me different things and introducing
me to people. And then the next day my mom died unexpectedly. I
mean, it was just that it was like that, and so I didn't
go back there right away. It took me some time to kind of feel
like I'm ready, you know, I wasn't. It just wasn't. I
wasn't ready. But it had nothing to do with the church or anything.
It was just me And then Mother's Day was the next time I went back,
and I was so grateful to have that opportunity. So it was beautiful
spirit it is spirit thing. Yeah, so yeah, so we made all
those plans all those months ago without knowing that you needed to go, but
Spirit knew that you would need that. So that was Sorry Tom Deer,
sorry to comment Deer your class, but I was really grateful that that I
had that opportunity. And Sheila was great. She was She was great.
She start about their friendly right Yeah, no, no, did she teach,
but she has her own thing. She has her own thing. She
used to teach it Arthur Filly then and then she opened up her own thing
called Ersham Star and in England and she has a very good very I haven't
been there, but I taken online classes where her students were there. They're
very good. Yes, So so I don't know, I keep taking you
off the cash records. I feel like we're just kind of journeying and talking
along as we go. I have because I know we're running. We're getting
close to the end here, believe it or not. Time just kind of
flies. But I do want to just I have to ask you this because
I saw one of your shows on your podcast and it was a woman that
came on and you were talking about fairies. Oh yeah, and I can't
remember her name. Yeah, is that really a thing, jenniferin Hackett,
Yes, it's really a thing. I went to I'll give you my experience.
She's seen them plenty of times. But I went to Lilydale and there
is a place in Lilydale where it's full of fairies. And a friend took
me there and I can't say where it is, but we sat there and
I saw fairies, all different colors and lights. It was the middle of
the night, all different different colors, lights, different color sizes, and
they were not a pattern that you could say, oh that's that or this
is that. They were definitely not fireflies either, because there were different colors
and different sizes, and they had their their movements were very expressive. So
yeah, now you see them with your eyes because their physical beings, it's
not like you're seeing like you know, yes, yes, and they're a
little little well yeah, they're like thumbnail, you know, kind of like
really little. That's what I only saw the lights, So I'm fascinated by
it. And I know if you go over to like I don't know if
it's Ireland or Scotland, I mean they have a really big I mean I
think they moved a highway because there was a tree there that the fairies hung
out in and they around it. They went around it. Camer was Island
of Scotland. Now I can't remember, but I think that that's it's just
so they take it serious. But but you know it's not. You're taught
growing up, well, let's tinker Bellance, she's not really real. You
know, that's Disney. And you know, we're told a lot of things
aren't really real. And so I feel sometimes it's group hypnosis because if you
tell somebody enough times and it's not really real, they'll stop noticing it.
But if you don't say that to somebody and they start seeing what's exactly in
front of them, they're not socialized in that way. They just the best
see you know what's that, Mama? Yeah, looking at But well don't
you think it's like that with our kids too, Like like some kids,
I my son has his own this psychic style. He's only ten, so
you know, we're not like too deep but he's definitely got his psychic stuff
going on. I can tell. I can tell the way he hears things
and talks to people, you know, and you're not either. Well that's
the difference is I'm not. I'm acknowledging it. Like he'll hear them calling
his name and and you know, Nicholas, Nicholas, you know, and
like that, I hear them. I could feel them touching my leg and
he doesn't do it because he knows that I do that. He was doing
this. He's been doing this forever, you know what I mean, he's
just been able to. Yeah, but I think that he uh, you
know, if if I were the type of person that was like, oh,
come on, that's nothing, I think they shut that stuff down just
like you said, you know, I think the people would be more open.
And I think that that is, you know, as we awaken,
as I said, because do you feel like people are on this awakening too?
Oh? Yeah, I really really hope so. Anyway, but I
do see more and more people waking up, and I see more more children
thinking different kinds. Well, children have always thought independently until they're socialized.
But there are a lot of gifted kids and they're not shutting down. You
know, puberty shuts us down, no doubt about it. But they're not
shutting Some of them just aren't there. They're still in that space and it's
it's wonderful to see. But they don't get a lot of support for what
they say. Well, And I think that's the difference. And it's Finney
because I chat with a woman on her show the other night and she is
the medium. I mean she she has two children who are also very,
very gifted, and she said, you'll watch it happen like they were strong
and then they went through puberty and it kind of it's almost like it goes
away and then it comes back, you know, when they come back around.
So I'm fully expecting that to happen, you know. Yeah, So
Nancy, we have a few minutes left. Obviously, we have your website
right at the bottom of the page here. Ye what else would you love
people to know? I mean, do you have places you're going to be
events or things where people want to I absolutely do. I have this February
coming up, a mediumship and art development class. It's on my website,
so starting February third. I'm really excited about it. People are. It's
a different way of teaching mediumship, and so I'm combining the artwork, but
you don't have to be an amazing artist. We're just using the pencil of
the drawing on the paper to as another psychic gift, so you can get
information from your drawing. And people have been enjoying the class, have been
coming back teaching at lily Dale again. The fifth year in a row.
It will be there June twenty second, twenty third teaching mediumship art again.
So that's kind of a theme. And then you go there. Can anybody
go to Lilydale and take a class? Yes, anybody? Anybody never been.
I keep saying I need to go. Have enough mighty get through the
gate. Oh there you go? No, no yet, anyone can go.
And it's a really fun place to be. Lots of history, there,
lots of energy there. And then in April I start my next a
Kashak Journey Intensive. It's a six month intensive and it's you can use it
as soon as you start learning it. People use it to heal their lives
or develop or take their lives to the next level. But also people come
in who are professionals and they'll take the class and they'll add it to their
tool bag. And you don't have to be a medium to take the class.
I asked you this, but just so people know, you do not
have to be a medium. So you know, Christina is a is a
obsessed Ta Kashak records. Yes, you just have to learn how to do
that because everyone yes, and that's a whole long class and why but yes,
anyone can can take it. People have taken it and said, you
know, this isn't a beginner class because we I do take us all into
the deep pool pretty quick. But but I see people doing the work and
they're doing quite well with it, so I love it. I love it.
So I just want to say before we close out the show. Next
week, we are not here live. My son has a band concert and
I have to be there. I cannot be here while he's up on stage
playing his drums. So we are going to be there, but we did
record the show. Laura Hellickson, who stopped in and said hello, is
our guest next week. Laura is She is quite a quite an individual and
she is very I think intuitive to a certain degree. But she makes these
devices that are they're crystal pods and they pick up on magnetic waves, and
you know you can tell when there's spirit around. Looks so like a rampod,
but it's done with crystals and everything, and they're absolutely beautiful. And
she makes some designer for different people and she does. So she's gonna be
on the show next week. We had such a fun chat and so she
is on next week, but that is a recorded show. And the following
week, Christina and I are traveling to San Antonio for an event, so
we'll be down there, so that will also be a recorded show and we're
doing that on Monday, so we'll have that next week. But I just
want to say thank you to you, Nancy. It's been an absolute pleasure
having you, and of course this fifty four minutes always sort of flies by,
and I am going to be reaching out to you because I'm very interested
in the class and I hope other people will look you up, find her
podcast, like her Facebook page, everything, And we appreciate you every week.
So have a good week, everybody, enjoy and we'll see you next
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