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The Paranormal Project Radio Show, carry
your hosts Scott Allen and Christina Bowen.

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Hello everyone, and welcome back to
the part Paranormal Project Radio Show. Christina,

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it's so good to have you with
us. How are you? I'm

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good? How are you doing?
Tonight's gott good? Good, excellent,

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So good to see you. And
you know, we do all of these

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shows, we have some fun guests, but I really do always love bringing

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in my medium friends and talking about
all of the stuff that the spiritual and

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the metaphysical bring. And tonight we
have a guest with us that it's going

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to talk about something that we have
not talked about on this show yet and

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I'm very interested in it. We're
going to be talking about the Akashak records,

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and I don't know if a lot
of people know what the Akashak Records

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are, but we're going to get
into that tonight. And she does spirit

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art and she does a whole bunch
of other things. So actually, Chanell,

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if we could bring our guests out, welcome Nancy Smith to the show.

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How are you good? Thank you
for having me on. This is

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exciting. Yeah, and you also
have your own show and what night is

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your show is it Tuesday nights Tuesday
nights on Facebook Live called Angel Scapes Podcast,

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but it's all on all the podcast
stations also on YouTube, so if

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you can't make it to Facebook,
you can find me. You can find

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it later. And I love that
because you get some really nice guests on

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your show too, talking about all
kinds of things that I've never really had

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a whole lot of experience with,
even though I do this like fairies and

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all this other stuff. So as
matter of fact, I've taken note on

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some of your guests, so I
got to look them up and see,

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Oh, you know, so let
me know, let me know. Welcome,

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Welcome, So glad that you so
glad you were able to join us.

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Tell me. We talked a little
bit about what we wanted to talk

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to and I think one of the
things that you're passionate about, and I

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know that you and I have talked
about this is the Akashak Records. Right,

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what are the Akashak Records? Well, the Akahak Records really fast history.

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Helena Blovatsky traveled around the world,
and she's wealth and could do whatever

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she wanted, and she was lucky
at that time and studied old old religions,

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and she found in the Sanskrit religion
and Sanskrit language this thing called Akasha

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or Akashak records. It is the
idea that the career, the akasha is

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the energy of the Creator. It's
a very indelible energy. Everything the Creator

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has ever created since he started creating, she started creating, is in the

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Zakashak field, which people call the
Akashak records. And then move ahead a

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few more years and Edgar Casey started
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from what he called the Akashak records, and he did a lot of past

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life work. So many people connect
Akashak records and past life work as well,

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So that's kind of a little bit
of the history of it. But

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most important to remember is the word
akasha is about energy and spirit and records

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is just a recording or a collection
of information in the Akashak realm, in

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the big Kahuna heaven of the Creator. So it's a really nice place to

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go because there's lots of information there
when you go there psychically, when you

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go there intuitively, and it really
is is sort of like the record of

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everything past, present and future,
correct everything. Yeah, and we all

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have our own kind of records within
Absolutely, we all have our own We

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have our souls, and our souls
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this is how I understand it.
With each umbrella of the soul or all

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these lifetimes within the soul and each
individual, all the way down to your

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hangnails, there's a record of your
experience of your life and and all of

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your lives and lives on other planets
and lives and other dimensions. And it's

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very And that's funny too, because
I was going to say that to you.

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I felt like it's our soul's journey, not just us here in this

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life at this time. It's our
soul's journey. Do you believe that our

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souls have lived on other when we
have past lives? Can we have past

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lives other places? Other? Absolutely? Absolutely, I've always wondered, and

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I've just been a student of many
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how do you prove of past life? And you can prove a past life,

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It's not a small thing to do. But yes, you can have

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experiences on other planets, other dimensions. You can have experiences in your future

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self because in the soul realm.
Time is is not linear. Time is

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more like a loop or a big
bubble, and you can access that information

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just by reaching out and kind of
meditating or just reaching out metaphysically and getting

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it so and it's really amazing to
me how many times I've bumped into people

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who their their past life is on
another planet. I actually have some watercolors

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that I painted of other planets as
I saw them from from the reading that

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I gave, and as I drew
them and show them to the clients,

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they're like, oh my god,
that's exactly what I remember, or that's

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exactly what I dream of, or
it's very close, and it's and to

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me, it's amazing that one of
the lifetime was the planet that was dying,

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and the beings were very ancient and
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and they were preparing their next adventure
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was just amazing. That's fascinating.
So when you dive in, when you

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dive in to do this with them, it's not like what you think of

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as a past life regression through hypnosis. It's not that it's a different way

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of approaching it. Well, I
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through hypnosis and regression, and that's
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with you with that. But when
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do it more of a shamanic journey. Well, I will take them through

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and they're very much aware and they
can be creative. The thing that happens

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when I'm taking them through, I'm
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if they come back with one or
two things, I'll say, oh,

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did you notice the fuzzy blue thing
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yeah, that's right. So I
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on the shamanic journey. And I
feel many a few people have said I

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can't be hypnotized. I've never been
hypnotized, but they are able to go

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on the shamanic journey kind of thing. So interesting, and I think I've

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experienced I mean, not that specifically, but I had an experience once with

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a woman who has been a huge
help to me as I was opening up

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years ago, and she is a
shaman, and I didn't believe what was

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going on, and we did some
of these things where she took me on

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this journey. But she she was
with me and she would ask me what

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I saw and then was able to
kind of like I understand that, you

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know what I mean, or she
would see it or share it with me,

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and I thought that that was really
fascinating. Yeah, yeah, it's

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amazing. It's amazing kind of what
you can see and what you can experience.

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I just want to also add that
the Akashak realm or the Kashak records

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can be accessed when you're in high
levels of creativity or say you're composing music

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or writing. I've seen people just
kind of enter into the Akashak records spontaneously

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without really realizing what they're doing.
But they're getting information from that higher realm

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or from a library in the Akashak
realm, and they they'll come I remember

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one woman who had no inclination to
anything metaphysical. It was the writer's group.

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We were sitting there and meeting once
a couple times a month, and

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she was writing this memoir of this
thirteen year old woman from Ireland and how

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she got onto a boat and came
to America and how she did and the

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memory was so specific, and I'm
looking at her I said, have you

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ever researched? She goes, no, it's just coming through me. And

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I said, oh my god,
it's you know, I wonder I didn't

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know if it was a past life
where she was just talking to another spirit

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who was describing their life to him. And that's a Kashak work as far

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as I'm concerned, see, and
I love that. It's fascinating, and

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I know you teach a like a
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I have also talked about because I'm
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what it manifests itself, you know, how does it manifest? How do

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you How do you know you're there? And I've done guided meditations where we've

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gone in and you know, you
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that's it either, do you know? Yeah? I think I think it's

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one of those things. You you
do it, you have the experience of

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it so you get understand what it
is. Somebody explained this to me once,

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how do you know past like you're
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up for instance, And he said, well, you know, it's like

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if I tell you now, I
want you to step into and it's a

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cold, rainy day and and you're
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no, it's hot, I got
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really and and it's very arid and
it's almost like a desert here. That's

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when you know you're in because it's
specific and you can't change it as much

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as you try to change it.
And in some ways, when you're in

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the Akajha records, you can't decide
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It is what it is. And
that's when you know that you're connected

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to an intelligent memory kind of thing. So have you have you been doing

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that a while? I mean,
how do you you know? Is that

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a big part of what you do
now is the Akashak and the Kashak work.

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And even when I do my mediumship, I open up the Akahak records

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so that I it's like a boost. It's like it's like putting a special

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little boost in my ears to hear
more because I'm in that Akashak vibration,

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the Kashak field of energy. And
I want to say that when we pass

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over, we're in the we go
to the Akashak realm. It's the energy

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of the Creator's it's heaven. So
yes, it's a big part of what

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I do and my mentorships really work
on self healing and connecting yourself to your

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soul and self awareness and understanding the
what I call the three levels of consciousness

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within yourself, so that you can
maneuver through how you were created physically and

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the ego that you have, your
aware of self, and then your higher

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self, and how you integrate them
all. And once something aspects of ourselves

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become integrated with our soul, our
soul is really wants to know what we're

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up to and what we're doing and
wants to have that information, yet we

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hide it from our spiritual self.
And I want you to know how bad

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I was yesterday. But what I
call that integration work. Some people big

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talk and New Age about ascension,
we're ascending, And I said, well,

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this is ascension work. This is
when we integrate our life's experience with

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our soul and that information is in
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That's what we're here for. If
that makes sense to you, I

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do. I think it's I think
it's great. So and you also do

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spirit art, which I also am
fascinated with. I know that, and

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I've had this conversation with other people
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know if I see them as they
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I need to understand who they are, right, Well, I tell you

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it's both. Let me tell you. Can I just talk a little bit

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about that, Yeah, Spirit,
I will. When I first started drawing,

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I was seeing spirit. I was
actually seeing their faces clairvoyantly, and

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I was trying to sketch it.
As a matter of fact, I could

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look at the paper and a shadow
a face will come up, and I

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would sketch you other and I would
sketch in the shadows, and that's how

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I got my faces. But then
after a while, Spirit kind of evolved

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me into they just wanted me to
do automatic, and I'm like, I

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didn't want to do automatic. I
just wanted to be I wanted to know

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what I was drawing. And so
now I can get information and faces or

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faces that remind me of somebody else
so that I can get the information that

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I need to give to them.
But I have to let that go and

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just like the face flow through me. So I have a system that I've

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created about so that my mind has
a place where what to do with the

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information is this is where the forehead
goes, this is where the chin goes.

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This is the perspective or the proportion. So I get them correct and

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then I say, Okay, now
we've got this going on. How big

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is the nose, how white is
the nose? Where? And then I'll

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get a feel for where it goes
or where it doesn't go. And I

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have to say, these are not
Kodak moments. I don't know that any

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spirit artists has done a Kodak moment
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then then there's the other guy,
Frederick. His name is Remington, but

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he they're amazing spirit artists. But
I have captured enough usually for somebody to

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recognize, yeah, that that's in
the realm of you know, Yeah he

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did have that pointed chin and those
eyes because something with the hair kind of

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thing. So did you were you
were you an artist before or did that

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just kind of come to you?
You were? I was? I was

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illustrator. I went to Risdy when
not in school design and did a lot

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of figure drawing, a lot of
work. And then just as this phenomena

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happened to me. I was drawing
portraits of my kids, my friend's kids,

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because I was at the age where
we were all having kids, so

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I was just sketching them for money. So and then then all of a

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sudden, I had this opening and
I drew and I started to draw.

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Faces started to show up on the
paper, and I started to draw those

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faces, and people were recognizing them
as being their loved ones who had passed,

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And I said, what the heck's
going on here? So spirits snuck

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up on me, I think,
But I kind of jokingly say that,

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you know, unless your grandmother looked
like a stick figure in life, you

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probably not. I couldn't get him
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that's not gonna work out. So
did you open up later in life?

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Was this a later in life?
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did is I was always kind of
really a sensitive kid, and I always

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excuse me. I always saw things
that weren't there, you know, and

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my imagination was crazy. But then
over time kind of shut it down and

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didn't pay attention to that crazy stuff
anymore. And then it was when I

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had my kids, and when you're
a mother you have to have eyes in

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the back of your head. So
that just triggered my intuition and it got

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stronger and stronger. And the thing
that finally put it into place was my

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daycare provider had a murder in her
family. Her brother in law shot and

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killed on the job, and they
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And I'm listening to her and all
these little kids are running around and

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some and there's a phenomena of when
you touch something of get what was the

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name of that, When you touch
something, information starts coming through his there

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is you've said it, I'm I'll
get it. But anyway, she the

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car that he was killed in was
flatbedded into her backyard, and all the

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kids are running around. She said, oh my god, can you help

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me. I have to clean this
out for my husband sees it. He's

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going to be so upset. So
I went in there and collected the papers,

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put them in garbage bags, figured
out what stuff needed to be meetened

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up, and brought back into the
house. And when I did that,

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this man's spirit just centered into my
orc field and started telling me one story

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after another. I thought I was
just losing my mind, and so that's

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when I really yes, psycholotry,
Yes of psychometry. That's it. My

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first experience with mediumship was through psychometry. And and when I went home,

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these faces would not stop, and
so I laid out all my sketching material

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and they started coming up from the
paper and I started sketching them. I

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had did five or six or seven, I can't remember how many. Brought

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them over to her and she recognized
that's my brother in law, that's my

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father, and that's the guy that
just came to my house, and I

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swear he's the one that shot him. And it just was hebgb's everywhere.

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So all of it went to the
police for several months and then it came

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back to me, and of course
you never know what happens, you know,

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and they don't say much in those
police investigations. So that was my

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first police investigation. And so that's
that's how it started. And I didn't

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even honestly did not know what mediumship
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was, and I had to learn
that. So that was it. I

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guess that was a little later opening
up. Yeah, And I feel like

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for me, it was not what
I saw in the movie, so I

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don't think I recognized what was really
happening. It took a while. Plus

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I worked in a funeral home for
thirty five years. I can ask you

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that. Yeah, yeah, you
think, get me that happen while you

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were working in If you're a home, did you ever have a say there

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was? There was? Yeah,
it was over a period of time,

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but it was just coincidences. Oh, they're just coincidences, you know.

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There was that kind of thing.
And then I remember towards the end of

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it, I remember feeling like there's
something around me, Like I could feel

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it, like why is it moving? You know? I could feel like

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there was something around me. I
could feel energy with my hands, which

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I never thought I could feel before, and to be able to manipulate that.

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And then I started noticing like there's
people walking up and down the stairs.

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I could hear it, and and
and actually, I mean, I

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think the reason that I do all
of this sort of paranormal stuff is because

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that's how it manifested for me.
It felt like a ghost. I felt

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like I had a spirit attachment.
Is what it really felt like to me.

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It was almost a ghost story.
And it's not like that now,

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I mean, and once I learned
to control it, you can shut it

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off and kind of go about your
life. Yeah, that's how it started.

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That's how it started for me.
And it was really actually kind of

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frightening. Oh yeah, I bet
you can shut it down like that.

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I can, and I try to. Some of it I can't. There

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was I've had been in a couple
of different houses that have had spirits in

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them that didn't want to leave,
and I tried like heck to get him

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to just be quiet already because he
liked to make noise at night, and

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so I couldn't quiet him down.
But when I go grocery shop and when

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I'm out in public, I'm very
sensitized sensitive, so I have to shut

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it down, and I just bring
my aura close into me. Sometimes I

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imagine shutting my third eye. And
sometimes I put earbuds in my ears and

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play either play books on tape or
I'll play music just so that I can't

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feel the vibration of everything around me. So, yeah, I do have

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to shut it down. And if
I don't shut it down, right,

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Scott, if you don't shut it
down, your it's draining. It was

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draining. It was draining. Although
I feel like I'm a little different in

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the sense that I have it perpetually
shut off. I mean, we set

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that intention a long time ago that
it's not on unless I turn it on.

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And so when I'm out and about, I tend to be distracted and

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I don't notice, you know.
But when I sit and do a reading,

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I'm like, Okay, it's time, you can come now, and

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taking all sunglasses. Yeah something,
there's some kind of sing. But I

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told you. I do the when
I open up the Acastak records when I

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do Mediumship, and that's my way
of really I'm opening up and then I

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close. I say a prayer that
closes the Acastak records, and that closes

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me. Because that's been really helpful
because I was doing all of these little

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opening and closings, opening and closings. But when I got into that really

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I'm serious prayer that helped me really
set up a nice boundary because I didn't

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want to turn off my intuition about
my life in general, but I didn't

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want to talk to Okay so much. So I'll tell you this story really

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fast. I lived next door to
a undertaker, had great neighbors, they

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moved out, the undertaker moved in
full of attachments. You could feel them

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and want all the time and see
them. So one day he came home

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and I heard the shoveling of this
dirt and I looked out. He had

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taken a bunch of loam from the
cemetery and put him in the back trunk

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of his car, and he was
shoveling out to put them into his garden.

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And you know, dirt is a
really good medium. And my kitchen

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was full, and I had said
everyone out of here, and oh my

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god. This one time I was
getting out of the shower and this one

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man had passed in his I think
in his forties. He still had younger

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kids, and he was panicked and
he was he didn't have a shirt on,

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and he said, I have to
find my wife, I have to

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find my kids. I don't know. He was a little bit worked up.

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And I said, well, hold
on a minute, what happened?

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And then I started to get the
information of what he had a very fast

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cornary and he wasn't and he was
still kind of trying to sort it out.

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So he was not quite on the
other side yet. That doesn't hardly

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ever happen, and I was surprised. So I brought my team in,

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my eight team of angels, and
I said, I have really good messengers

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for you, and I hooked them
up with the with my helpers. But

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I think that I had that experience
because I was right next door to the

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Undertaker and they had a fast track
over to my house. And I don't

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think in general, you know,
people who deal with that, they've just

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they've shut off all of that because
you just have to do your job and

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that's it. So he's bringing dirt
home or whatever else he's doing. He's

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not even thinking about it. He's
just, you know, I just gonna

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there's some great dirt, let's just
put it in. Meanwhile, you're getting

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bombarded. So he's walking his dog
down the street and I'm watching, you

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know, there's at least one person
following him. I'm like, oh gee,

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this poor guy. And he was
getting more and more cranky. So

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he needed a good clearing and he
needed a good talking to. But anyway,

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I just had to tell you that
story. Well, it is fascinating.

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Do you see them. You don't
see them visually, like sort of

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externally, it's all like mind's eyes
stuff. Yeah, mind's eye, Oh

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you're there. Although have you ever
had this experience where you see something at

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the corner of your eye and you
look and it's not there, but it's

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there. It's like the peripheral vision
can be really active. And so sometimes

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I'll I'll say, wait a minute, that's the third time I cut that,

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and I'll start talking to them.
I have a strong sense that when

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we pass, or that when anyone
passes, there's a whole team. We're

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worth a whole team right now,
and are like, you've got your guidian

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angel, you've got your healer guide, You've got all this. So when

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we're in the process of passing,
all of those guides are there helping you

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move to the other side. So
I don't necessarily think souls get lost or

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spirits get lost, but they can
leave residual energy behind them unless they want

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a specific thing, and then they're
there on purpose. So I don't have

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all of the answers, but I
do have a sense of idea of it's

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not a scary thing to pass.
We don't get lost, we're helped.

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Doesn't matter what you've done in your
life, you always go to that loving

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place you got to sort it out, and you've got to face up the

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stuff that you've done or didn't do. But I don't know how many people

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agree with me or don't agree with
me, but it's a pretty good system.

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This going back into spirit, as
far as I can tell, I

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think it's more scary how and you
know how it's going to happen, as

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opposed to when it happens. I
think, yeah, absolutely, I agree.

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But yeah, so you kind of
feel that way too, that I

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really have connected with a spirit who
was mean or frustrated or out of control

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or anything like that. They always
I don't generally, but I will tell

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you an interesting story if you don't
mind, and you're the guests, but

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this is on that line. And
I had dinner with a friend in Maine

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a couple of years ago. Her
daughter is very, very, very intuitive,

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and I mean extremely but she doesn't
do it. She shuts it off.

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She just doesn't want anything to do
with it. They want something to

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do with her. It's like they
can see the light. She had gone

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to school in Salve, Regina,
which is that I think that's a newport

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or something, and she was in
an area that was quite haunted and she

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felt like there was this spirit that
followed her back home. She kept seeing

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this shadow figure around her better house
was not haunted, and that her mother,

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who's also quite intuitive, was getting
it as well, and had gone

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away for a while. She was
going to get married. She was living

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with her fiance, and he was
back and he was around harassing her,

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waking up, you know, and
there he is over the bed. She

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couldn't get rid of him. So
we're sitting having dinner in Maine, which

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is like, you know, they're
in Massachusetts, and you know, we

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were up in Maine, and she
said, do you think you could tune

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into him and find out what the
problem is? Yeah, Rhode Island Salve

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Regina Lisa was saying, yeah.
So so I said, well, you

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know, let's see, because I've
done some work with people who needed to

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be crossed over and that kind of
stuff, and we've kind of you know,

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but I tried to connect with him. There was no crossing him over.

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He was not a nice guy.
He wasn't he wasn't like a serial

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killer, he wasn't a demon,
he wasn't. It was none of that.

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I just feel like he was from
a very different time where women were

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property and he was going to do
what he wanted to do and I can

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do it because who's going to stop
me? And I did try to move

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him along, and he left for
a while, and he came back about

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a year later. He was back
at her kid and she ended up finding

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a shaman that helped her. And
he's been gone ever since as far as

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I know, I don't think he's
going back. But you know, but

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generally speaking and readings and all that
kind stuff, I don't get that kind

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of negativity. I don't find that
at all. Most most are just grateful,

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you know that you're able to make
that connection. But he was just

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different, you know, he was
just anomaly. And I love to know

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what happened. I have a list, very long list when I get to

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heavenough questions, why, yeah,
how? What? Why? You know?

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I don't know if anyone will ever
hear back from me with the answers

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to the questions. Yeah, no, I wonder a lot of stuff,

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right, I don't really know,
I mean, and that's the funny thing

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is we don't really know how it
works. Even though we do this work

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and we still don't know. We
still don't know. Yeah, yeah,

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I think there's a reason why we
don't know. I don't actually understand that

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reason either, that's one of the
questions. But I remember listening to somebody

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in the near death experience, she
says, I knew all of it.

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I understood everything. It all made
sense. But then they said I had

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to come back. And when I
came back, they said, you can't

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remember it, and so the veil. She said she felt a veil show

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up because she had to live her
life without knowing all of this other stuff,

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and I, I don't I'm really
curious about that. Did you feel

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though, that we have to live
our own journey? I mean, we

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don't get any free rides just because
we have the ability to somehow connect.

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We still have to take our own
trip. It's our own journey. Oh

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that's why this mystery to it even
for us, I don't even know why.

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Yeah, the media, whether whether
you're mediums or psychics or you have

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really amazing gifts, you still have
to do your own personal journey, you

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know exactly. You know, there's
no getting out of jail free card.

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And I've been looking for that and
I don't understand it. But yeah,

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there's a lot of mysteries in life. But when I go into people's kashak

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records and they're saying, how come
this didn't happen or how come I can't

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have this there, there will generally
not be one hundred percent clear answer,

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but there'll be a redirect or there'll
be some kind of opening up to say,

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did you think about it this way? And if you knew to do

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this, you wouldn't do this over
here, But doing this over here has

407
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,519
made you very strong and whise in
this area. And look at how many

408
00:29:56,519 --> 00:30:00,799
people you could help, or something
like that, which is why one of

409
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:03,119
my question is how come I wasn't
born a wealthy person? Why do we

410
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:07,480
struggle with money? And well?
Because you know, and sometimes I say

411
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:11,279
that I want to know, just
it is what it is. But there

412
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:17,920
are many things that our souls will
design, and we actually will design it

413
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,799
with our souls. Yeah, and
overdo it sometimes where we'll have specific experiences

414
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:34,000
to cause a specific feelings and solutions
will come up and those experiences will deepen

415
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,680
a wisdom for the soul. So
there is a design for I don't want

416
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,200
to say, and I'm not meaning
to say, there's a design to come

417
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,000
in and be you know, an
abused child, That's what I'm talking about.

418
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,920
But there could be a pressure of
certain bonding patterns or certain understandings that

419
00:30:55,359 --> 00:31:00,759
as you push through them, you
grow and and you have a lot to

420
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:07,279
offer from that growth. So that's
kind of where I'm where I've gotten a

421
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:10,039
lot of answers from, and that
what's your sense on you know, in

422
00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:14,720
terms of the ACASTROC records, what's
your sense on people who are genuinely not

423
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,640
good people? You know, history
it has shown a lot. You know,

424
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,240
we have serial killers, we have
dictators, we have all of these

425
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:23,440
things, and we know they're not
good people. No, And I know

426
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,200
this is sort of theoretical, right, I mean, yeah, yeah,

427
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,079
But that is such a good question
because everyone asks and there's some people that

428
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,880
just cannot buy into some of the
spiritual stuff because they want the bad people

429
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:41,400
to go to hell. And in
my journey of asking that question, first,

430
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:47,759
there is some there's mentally ill people, and we have genetic mental illness

431
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,440
or genetic we've we've missed the gene
for EmPATH empathy or become we're just born

432
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:59,000
sociopaths. So there's that and people
have to learn how to live with it

433
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:01,279
or they don't know how to learn
to live with it. And there's there's

434
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:05,440
no right or wrong button inside of
them. So there's that, and then

435
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:13,319
there's a Neilda Walls wrote these children's
books about wanting to This little angel wanted

436
00:32:13,359 --> 00:32:17,079
to experience God's love and the only
way he thought he could experience God's love

437
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,279
is to not have God's love around
him, So he was going to get

438
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:23,839
born, and then his best friend
ever said, I'll go and help you,

439
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,599
and I'll be the mean one to
make you think that nobody loves you.

440
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,960
And it was very simplified story,
which is they made this agreement in

441
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,279
heaven so that he could have this
experience in the earth on the biological level

442
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,240
and go back to Heaven and realize, Oh, now I understand. And

443
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,000
that was really creative of the writer
to write that. But it got me

444
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:52,200
thinking about if if we had life
in the perfect human, the human version

445
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,000
of perfect, would we learn and
grow what our soul wanted us to learn

446
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:02,799
and grow. So we're all free
to make our decisions and make bad decisions

447
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:08,480
good decisions, or I don't care
about you anymore, or or I or

448
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:15,079
I have ideals inside of ourselves that
are just belief systems that are not serving

449
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:17,960
anybody. But you know, the
some of the belief systems and some of

450
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,559
the early some of the Christians in
the Middle Ages kind of thing pretty horrendous,

451
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:29,119
or you know, the I don't
want to get into anything current,

452
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,880
but where people were justifying killing each
other because of their religion and because this

453
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,960
is what God wants me to do. And I puzzle over that a lot.

454
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:44,759
But people justify you spirituality, justify
being horrible to each other. So

455
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:47,839
what do you do with those people? What do you do with those people?

456
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,279
I think you got to turn it
over to heaven. And they go

457
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,839
back and they have a long talk
with their soul and they said, well

458
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:58,319
did you what did you learn?
What happened? But there are many people

459
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:05,960
that then have the variance of losing
their lives. For I had this experience

460
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,920
of losing my life and I'm a
victim to somebody else's wrath, So what

461
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:14,480
did you learn from that? And
I don't like that plan, but it

462
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:21,320
is a plan, So you can't
really and I've judged somebody else's life based

463
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,599
on what you think is right or
wrong. And that's a spiritualist philosophy as

464
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:30,719
a matter of fact, a little
principle in there where you don't know what

465
00:34:30,039 --> 00:34:34,639
where there there they've been, You
don't know what their background is, and

466
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,320
you don't know what the spiritual pressures
on them. You don't let them hurt

467
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,519
you. You certainly don't let people
have a free ride and run hurt on

468
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:46,800
you. But to decide to judge
them whether they should go to heaven or

469
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:52,400
hell isn't our job. If that's
kind of the philosophy I've come up with,

470
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,320
Although there's a lot of people I'd
like to knock their heads together.

471
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:01,159
So what are you thinking about?
You know, the spiritualism believe in.

472
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:07,000
I haven't And hell no, everyone
goes to home, Just go home?

473
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:15,159
So is there any kind of uh
punishment for behavior? Well? Yeah,

474
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:22,159
well, but spiritualism teaches is the
reciprocity or the balance of life. What

475
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:28,800
you do, what causes comes back
to you and you and you have you're

476
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,000
responsible for what you do and say
you're responsible for your own happiness. You're

477
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:37,599
so when you go home, you
have to right the ship, you have

478
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:43,480
to balance the scales, you have
to do whatever it takes too. And

479
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,920
I don't know what those things actually
are. I haven't been there in a

480
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:51,000
while. But they But you do
have to balance the life, and you

481
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:55,280
are responsible and accountable for how you've
lived your life. There is an accountability.

482
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,639
It's not just you chalk it up
to I just decided that I was

483
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:02,280
going to be like this because I
wanted to experience being a serial killer.

484
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:06,880
So I want to go, you
know, so you know, I don't

485
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,000
know who would want to do that, but but you are, and that's

486
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:14,199
that's a good point. You are
a spiritualist. You're in the Spiritualist church.

487
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,159
You were you were ordained as a
spiritualist and if that's the right word,

488
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:22,519
clergy journey within. I believe Lisa, she's still here, Lisa.

489
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:28,519
I think we met at the Journey
Within in New Jersey when we were together

490
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:31,199
there and I guess it was September. Now she's still here, Lisa.

491
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:37,400
You can say, hi, I
believe that we that we met there and

492
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,840
and you you were brought into Janet, who's you know, sadly no longer

493
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,079
with us. But do you do
you serve in the capacity? You don't

494
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:50,400
obviously serve there every week because that's
you know, how many Oh it's too

495
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,639
far, no, I but there's
many spiritualist church as you know, you

496
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:55,480
know in the New England area,
then I can certainly drive to. So

497
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,960
I do serve many churches where either
you know, to give the message the

498
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:06,000
lecture work, or do the message
mediumship work or do a workshop. I've

499
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,559
been doing that for years and years
and so I continue to do it.

500
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,000
And in my home church, Quincy
Church, I do work there as well.

501
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,199
I'm not a pastor of a church
and I but I do my own

502
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:22,679
ministry. I guess you could call
it that not trying to what's my ministry

503
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,119
is just to show people that they're
not alone, that they're loved, and

504
00:37:28,199 --> 00:37:30,840
I feel like that's the biggest message. And mediumship is to say, you

505
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:36,239
know, yes we do go home
and their life does continue after the change

506
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,880
called death, but when we're here, we're still loved and we're not alone,

507
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,559
although there's a lot of illusion of
being alone in this lifetime here on

508
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:51,679
this planet. For some reason,
you were created human beings and social animals

509
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,719
and then we isolate each other.
So we don't quite have the program rate

510
00:37:55,519 --> 00:38:01,280
down pat yet, but any Yeah, so that's kind of my background and

511
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:06,440
it's really interesting to see the field
the blend or experience the blend that's happened

512
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:12,719
for me through mediumship and then I
was raised Catholic and moving, you know,

513
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,639
away from the although I still have
a lot of the Catholic I love

514
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:20,599
the Catholic some of the beliefs and
some of the things. But what am

515
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:24,719
I trying to say? The blending
of a kashak record work with the mediumship

516
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:30,000
work has been fascinating for spirit to
be dragging me down that pathway, but

517
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:37,440
taking me down that pathway because it's
about connecting to your soul, your eternal

518
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:43,599
self, and being a partner with
your internal self to have a fulfilling life.

519
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:49,840
You know, I think so,
and I think I don't know.

520
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,760
For me, I feel like I've
changed a lot since just I think the

521
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,280
whole spiritual awakening has done a lot
for me. You know, you look

522
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,400
at things differently, you feel differently, and you live in a way because

523
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,719
I was also raised Catholic. Okay, so I have that. I have

524
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,719
that background, and it's hard to
shake that, you know, the whole

525
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,599
Catholic guilt. I don't want to
call it Catholic guilt, but it sticks

526
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:20,039
with you, you know what I
mean, It sticks with you and you

527
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:22,920
know, I can't. I can't
just separate that from who I am.

528
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:29,639
But I feel like since I have
awakened spiritually that idea of a of an

529
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:32,960
afterlife and that life continues to go
on, well, it's become real for

530
00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:39,800
me because somehow I have a way
to kind of either connect in some way

531
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,719
that I think I didn't have it
before. It was just on faith.

532
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,440
Now it's on this sense of awareness
experience. Yeah, yeah, you know

533
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:53,320
it, So you just kind of
know it, and I think you realize

534
00:39:53,360 --> 00:40:00,840
that there are people out there doing
good work bringing light and positivetivity to people,

535
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,440
and I think that's just a beautiful
thing, really and truly, you

536
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,480
know. Yeah, yeah, more
of those, Yeah, we do.

537
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:13,159
We do. Now, do you
actually have a physical location where you are

538
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,679
or are you just is everything kind
of remote? You don't have a store

539
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,559
or something like that. No,
I don't have a I don't have a

540
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:24,079
brick and mortar place that that happened
that died along along with a lot of

541
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:30,199
other things that financially, so I
do remote, but I also a lot

542
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,719
of my work is out of state, is people are from far away,

543
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,920
so so having a zoom or remote
setup or or if something does or phone.

544
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,119
Sometimes people look like in the computer. So I do a lot of

545
00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:49,639
phone readings, con conference calls.
I can record them. Yeah, so

546
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:55,079
my outreach goes sometimes India or as
far as India, I should say,

547
00:40:55,599 --> 00:41:00,679
over England, and I did some
work with people in Scotland and then wonderful

548
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:07,599
Deadmark. So I mean most is
most of his people from around the country.

549
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,280
So hey, Brandon, thanks for
watching. Now Brandon, Brandon,

550
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:15,440
Brandon. I believe this is the
Brandon that I met the other night because

551
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,960
I was on your show. Brandon
I believe is a shaman and he does

552
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:22,000
have a show. So I'm glad
you stopped in. Brandon. Nice to

553
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:29,079
see you. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, it's just nice to see people

554
00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:31,480
popping in and saying hi here.
Yeah. It is cool. It's great,

555
00:41:31,559 --> 00:41:36,079
it is. It is cool.
I think, sorry, I've got

556
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:37,800
a brain like a calendar, and
I apologize. I saw him pop up,

557
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,719
and now I'm gone, this is
what it is. It is what

558
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:46,599
it is, part blonde, part
gray. It's a bad combination. What

559
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,480
were we We were just just saying
something that I apologize is just completely went

560
00:41:51,519 --> 00:41:53,480
out the door as soon as I
saw that pop So you were talking a

561
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,280
brick and mortar, and I was
saying, well, I'm yeah, and

562
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:04,559
so you know I'm accessible, you
know, from any walks of this for

563
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:07,880
any geographical Area's just there's no place
to drive up in, park your car

564
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,719
and come in. No, but
you know, I think people get used

565
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,960
to that with you know, after
COVID, people realized that they didn't need

566
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:19,440
to. You know, it's still
got a few people occasionally like to come

567
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,440
in and do in person, but
the Zoom or you know, however you

568
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:27,159
do at zoom whatever, it's it's
just it's it works. It works really

569
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,840
well. Do you travel? I
mean you and I met in Quinsy at

570
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,480
the Spiritualist Church. Yeah, And
the story behind that was you're having that

571
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:42,119
demonstration class on platform platforms with Sheila
French from England. England and I had

572
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:45,920
lost my mom last year and I
was thinking to myself, it was you

573
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,159
know, what am I going to
do on Mother's Day? I was dreading

574
00:42:49,199 --> 00:42:51,239
it. I have to tell you, I was dreading it and all of

575
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,000
a sudden, I can't believe there's
this class on platform mediumship on Mother's Day.

576
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,280
I'm going because I just need to
be doing something else. And so

577
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,639
yeah, I don't know why it
was on Mother's Day. I don't care.

578
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,159
It was just a great thing and
it was perfect for me. And

579
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,079
it was a small turnout, I
think probably because it was my it was

580
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:10,199
Mother's Day. We had a long
conversation about why are you doing this on

581
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,000
Mother's Day? Well, then that's
when you can come. But it was

582
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,440
I won't do it again, but
I'm so glad you came. I'm so

583
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:20,719
glad for me. I mean,
I probably would have liked to have come

584
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,199
anyway, but the fact that it
was Mother's Day, it was like that

585
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,119
was that was the extra piece for
me because I knew that I would be

586
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:31,519
able to stay focused, So it
was it was perfect and glad to do

587
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:34,280
that. And then I met you, which is great, and you know,

588
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,800
I appreciate everything we do. We
have a new connection, you know.

589
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:42,679
Yeah. No, I was thrilled, absolutely thrilled to meet to meet

590
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,119
you, and you were you actually
came in and you were really focused and

591
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:49,840
you're really ready to work and you
were there one hundred percent. And it's

592
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,800
like, this guy is awesome.
This guy, No, I don't know.

593
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,880
Well, you know, the interesting
thing is I've only been to the

594
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,519
church in Quincy twice, the Spirituals
Church of Quincy, And the first time

595
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:05,280
I was there was in November of
twenty two and I came and it was

596
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,960
odd. My mom had been brought
to the hospital. She was coming home

597
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,320
the next day, but she was
coming home on Monday. But I was

598
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,639
there on Sunday and they asked,
you know, who do you want healing

599
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,119
for? And I put her name
in the basket and that kind of thing.

600
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:21,119
And I went to the service and
people were so friendly. There's another

601
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:22,320
man there and I can't think of
his name now, but he also does

602
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,280
spirit art and he just took me
around and was I know, if he

603
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,519
said his name, I probably know
who he is. He's an older gentleman.

604
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:31,559
But he oh, James, Yeah, James, that's it, James.

605
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:35,920
And he took me around. It
was showing me different things and introducing

606
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,159
me to people. And then the
next day my mom died unexpectedly. I

607
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:43,039
mean, it was just that it
was like that, and so I didn't

608
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,840
go back there right away. It
took me some time to kind of feel

609
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,800
like I'm ready, you know,
I wasn't. It just wasn't. I

610
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,639
wasn't ready. But it had nothing
to do with the church or anything.

611
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:54,119
It was just me And then Mother's
Day was the next time I went back,

612
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:59,599
and I was so grateful to have
that opportunity. So it was beautiful

613
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:05,800
spirit it is spirit thing. Yeah, so yeah, so we made all

614
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,239
those plans all those months ago without
knowing that you needed to go, but

615
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:13,559
Spirit knew that you would need that. So that was Sorry Tom Deer,

616
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:20,599
sorry to comment Deer your class,
but I was really grateful that that I

617
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:22,599
had that opportunity. And Sheila was
great. She was She was great.

618
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:27,679
She start about their friendly right Yeah, no, no, did she teach,

619
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,159
but she has her own thing.
She has her own thing. She

620
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,519
used to teach it Arthur Filly then
and then she opened up her own thing

621
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:38,760
called Ersham Star and in England and
she has a very good very I haven't

622
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:44,559
been there, but I taken online
classes where her students were there. They're

623
00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:51,440
very good. Yes, So so
I don't know, I keep taking you

624
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,719
off the cash records. I feel
like we're just kind of journeying and talking

625
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,639
along as we go. I have
because I know we're running. We're getting

626
00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:00,599
close to the end here, believe
it or not. Time just kind of

627
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:05,119
flies. But I do want to
just I have to ask you this because

628
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:08,440
I saw one of your shows on
your podcast and it was a woman that

629
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:14,679
came on and you were talking about
fairies. Oh yeah, and I can't

630
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:19,400
remember her name. Yeah, is
that really a thing, jenniferin Hackett,

631
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,079
Yes, it's really a thing.
I went to I'll give you my experience.

632
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:28,360
She's seen them plenty of times.
But I went to Lilydale and there

633
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,920
is a place in Lilydale where it's
full of fairies. And a friend took

634
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,320
me there and I can't say where
it is, but we sat there and

635
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,840
I saw fairies, all different colors
and lights. It was the middle of

636
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,400
the night, all different different colors, lights, different color sizes, and

637
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:52,280
they were not a pattern that you
could say, oh that's that or this

638
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,280
is that. They were definitely not
fireflies either, because there were different colors

639
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:04,079
and different sizes, and they had
their their movements were very expressive. So

640
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,480
yeah, now you see them with
your eyes because their physical beings, it's

641
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:12,199
not like you're seeing like you know, yes, yes, and they're a

642
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:16,039
little little well yeah, they're like
thumbnail, you know, kind of like

643
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:22,880
really little. That's what I only
saw the lights, So I'm fascinated by

644
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,920
it. And I know if you
go over to like I don't know if

645
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:30,679
it's Ireland or Scotland, I mean
they have a really big I mean I

646
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:32,800
think they moved a highway because there
was a tree there that the fairies hung

647
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,239
out in and they around it.
They went around it. Camer was Island

648
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,679
of Scotland. Now I can't remember, but I think that that's it's just

649
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:45,920
so they take it serious. But
but you know it's not. You're taught

650
00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:49,159
growing up, well, let's tinker
Bellance, she's not really real. You

651
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:52,679
know, that's Disney. And you
know, we're told a lot of things

652
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:58,800
aren't really real. And so I
feel sometimes it's group hypnosis because if you

653
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,800
tell somebody enough times and it's not
really real, they'll stop noticing it.

654
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,119
But if you don't say that to
somebody and they start seeing what's exactly in

655
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:13,719
front of them, they're not socialized
in that way. They just the best

656
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:19,119
see you know what's that, Mama? Yeah, looking at But well don't

657
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:21,800
you think it's like that with our
kids too, Like like some kids,

658
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:27,079
I my son has his own this
psychic style. He's only ten, so

659
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,800
you know, we're not like too
deep but he's definitely got his psychic stuff

660
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,440
going on. I can tell.
I can tell the way he hears things

661
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,119
and talks to people, you know, and you're not either. Well that's

662
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:43,960
the difference is I'm not. I'm
acknowledging it. Like he'll hear them calling

663
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,800
his name and and you know,
Nicholas, Nicholas, you know, and

664
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:51,679
like that, I hear them.
I could feel them touching my leg and

665
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:54,039
he doesn't do it because he knows
that I do that. He was doing

666
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:58,079
this. He's been doing this forever, you know what I mean, he's

667
00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:04,679
just been able to. Yeah,
but I think that he uh, you

668
00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:07,079
know, if if I were the
type of person that was like, oh,

669
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:12,559
come on, that's nothing, I
think they shut that stuff down just

670
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:15,880
like you said, you know,
I think the people would be more open.

671
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,880
And I think that that is,
you know, as we awaken,

672
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,559
as I said, because do you
feel like people are on this awakening too?

673
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,039
Oh? Yeah, I really really
hope so. Anyway, but I

674
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:29,280
do see more and more people waking
up, and I see more more children

675
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,719
thinking different kinds. Well, children
have always thought independently until they're socialized.

676
00:49:34,199 --> 00:49:37,519
But there are a lot of gifted
kids and they're not shutting down. You

677
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:40,920
know, puberty shuts us down,
no doubt about it. But they're not

678
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,920
shutting Some of them just aren't there. They're still in that space and it's

679
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:51,760
it's wonderful to see. But they
don't get a lot of support for what

680
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,239
they say. Well, And I
think that's the difference. And it's Finney

681
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,679
because I chat with a woman on
her show the other night and she is

682
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,320
the medium. I mean she she
has two children who are also very,

683
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,679
very gifted, and she said,
you'll watch it happen like they were strong

684
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,880
and then they went through puberty and
it kind of it's almost like it goes

685
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,360
away and then it comes back,
you know, when they come back around.

686
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:15,000
So I'm fully expecting that to happen, you know. Yeah, So

687
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:19,599
Nancy, we have a few minutes
left. Obviously, we have your website

688
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:22,920
right at the bottom of the page
here. Ye what else would you love

689
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,039
people to know? I mean,
do you have places you're going to be

690
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:30,719
events or things where people want to
I absolutely do. I have this February

691
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,639
coming up, a mediumship and art
development class. It's on my website,

692
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,079
so starting February third. I'm really
excited about it. People are. It's

693
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:43,079
a different way of teaching mediumship,
and so I'm combining the artwork, but

694
00:50:43,159 --> 00:50:46,920
you don't have to be an amazing
artist. We're just using the pencil of

695
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:52,159
the drawing on the paper to as
another psychic gift, so you can get

696
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:55,280
information from your drawing. And people
have been enjoying the class, have been

697
00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:00,079
coming back teaching at lily Dale again. The fifth year in a row.

698
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,400
It will be there June twenty second, twenty third teaching mediumship art again.

699
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:07,840
So that's kind of a theme.
And then you go there. Can anybody

700
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,559
go to Lilydale and take a class? Yes, anybody? Anybody never been.

701
00:51:12,639 --> 00:51:15,159
I keep saying I need to go. Have enough mighty get through the

702
00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:19,440
gate. Oh there you go?
No, no yet, anyone can go.

703
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,480
And it's a really fun place to
be. Lots of history, there,

704
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,239
lots of energy there. And then
in April I start my next a

705
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:34,239
Kashak Journey Intensive. It's a six
month intensive and it's you can use it

706
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,800
as soon as you start learning it. People use it to heal their lives

707
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,440
or develop or take their lives to
the next level. But also people come

708
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,000
in who are professionals and they'll take
the class and they'll add it to their

709
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,320
tool bag. And you don't have
to be a medium to take the class.

710
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,000
I asked you this, but just
so people know, you do not

711
00:51:52,119 --> 00:52:00,239
have to be a medium. So
you know, Christina is a is a

712
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,920
obsessed Ta Kashak records. Yes,
you just have to learn how to do

713
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,519
that because everyone yes, and that's
a whole long class and why but yes,

714
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:14,559
anyone can can take it. People
have taken it and said, you

715
00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:19,320
know, this isn't a beginner class
because we I do take us all into

716
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,000
the deep pool pretty quick. But
but I see people doing the work and

717
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:29,400
they're doing quite well with it,
so I love it. I love it.

718
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,239
So I just want to say before
we close out the show. Next

719
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:37,480
week, we are not here live. My son has a band concert and

720
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:40,039
I have to be there. I
cannot be here while he's up on stage

721
00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:44,320
playing his drums. So we are
going to be there, but we did

722
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,800
record the show. Laura Hellickson,
who stopped in and said hello, is

723
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:53,519
our guest next week. Laura is
She is quite a quite an individual and

724
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:59,599
she is very I think intuitive to
a certain degree. But she makes these

725
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:07,400
devices that are they're crystal pods and
they pick up on magnetic waves, and

726
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,920
you know you can tell when there's
spirit around. Looks so like a rampod,

727
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,920
but it's done with crystals and everything, and they're absolutely beautiful. And

728
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,840
she makes some designer for different people
and she does. So she's gonna be

729
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,199
on the show next week. We
had such a fun chat and so she

730
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,960
is on next week, but that
is a recorded show. And the following

731
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,559
week, Christina and I are traveling
to San Antonio for an event, so

732
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:31,880
we'll be down there, so that
will also be a recorded show and we're

733
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,199
doing that on Monday, so we'll
have that next week. But I just

734
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,079
want to say thank you to you, Nancy. It's been an absolute pleasure

735
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:42,800
having you, and of course this
fifty four minutes always sort of flies by,

736
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,559
and I am going to be reaching
out to you because I'm very interested

737
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:49,400
in the class and I hope other
people will look you up, find her

738
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,280
podcast, like her Facebook page,
everything, And we appreciate you every week.

739
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,360
So have a good week, everybody, enjoy and we'll see you next

740
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,119
time. Thank you so much.
You've been listening to the Paranormal Project radio

741
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:15,039
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742
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:17,519
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743
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:22,440
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744
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