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I mean, the alien stuff is
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fourth hour almost two years ago.
It was December twenty twenty one, and

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you can see right there I got
a nice amount of views there. Coming

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announcement of alien life is a technocratic
PSIOP. Put a good amount of time

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into this topic over the last several
years. I did a live stream two

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nights ago on my YouTube channel about
two or three hours just devoted to the

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whole history of the CIA's relationship to
the so called alien phenomenon. I view

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it as pretty much a psi op. You can go to the history of

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alien cults. The intelligence agencies have
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a lot of these alien cults,
whether it's scientology or the realiens or any

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of these entities. Really they're all
study. They're all sort of fostered,

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and it's like a test tube where
they let these things grow and they become

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great studies, you could say,
for how to socially engineer, I covered

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the fact that I think when I
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ago, I covered the fact that
the top eight things to expect by the

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year twenty thirty of the World Economic
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video that went viral that they subsequently
took down. I think they put up

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in twenty eighteen that video said we
may in fact mentioned the discovery of alien

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life by twenty thirty. So they're
actually just rolling out stuff that they've had

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planned for a long time. And
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day, Alex, the stories that
they're giving now are the same stories that

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have been recycled for the last twenty
thirty years. I remember old Google video

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clips of General's all been to the
underground bases, and I've seen the clones

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and how many times have we heard
this story they're cloning aliens in the beaches.

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That's because it's the same story that
they recycle, and that goes all

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the way back to the Roswell crash
that was a military involved crash. So

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called it the same recycled story because
the stories work. You go to the

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original people Betty and Barney Hill,
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All of these stories have the same
patterns, the same archetypes involved. They

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always have the same technocratic message.
And that's why if you'd look at the

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character Adamski, the first so called
abductee story. A lot of people don't

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know that Alan Dullas was running point
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or try to take him to court, Alan Dullas threatened to take them to

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court. Why did Alan Dullas care
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he would care if this was part
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you can look at figures like CD
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Doctrinal Warfare program where the CIA was
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War. He also was involved in
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If I recall, he was involved
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Still, which is the story where
the aliens are coming outside threat and if

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we don't create a world government,
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alien threat or the threat of the
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So in my view, this is
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fact, I've covered for many years
the late sixties Brookings Report Institute. They've

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said in the late sixties and they
were commissioned by NaSTA to put this out.

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This is in doctor Brenda Densler's book
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She's an academic writing about this from
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in that nineteen sixties report, they
outlined the fact that the discovery of alien

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life quote unquote would have totally destructive
effects on the history of Western civilizations religious

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myths. So the Bible, for
example, would be undercut in its story

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and it's narrative by the alien mythos
and so it's a psi op. It's

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intended to It does a lot of
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It's a cover for advanced technology by
the government and by corporations. It's

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a cover for drug running that goes
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other nefarious activities. It was a
psi op in the Cold War to you

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know, tell the Soviets that there's
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So it serves a lot of functions, but on the longer scale, multi

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multi decade narrative, it serves to
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and to the world, perhaps to
replace the Biblical narratives. And they even

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say that in the White Papers.
The Brookings Institute report from the nineteen sixties

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late sixties to replace the biblical narrative. So I wanna go to my guests

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today rock and roll star Dorothy joins
me. Dorothy reached out and said that

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she likes the Fourth Hour, she
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and I want to get into discussing
her journey, how she woke up

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to a lot of this, how
she got into the topic of the New

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World Order. But Dorothy, how
are you today? I'm great, Thanks

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for having me, Thanks for coming
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here. Let's talk about your band
first. How does the name Dorothy?

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Is this Dorothy from the Wizard of
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I'm bringing it back. I guess
it's an old Hollywood name and I

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couldn't think of a good band name, so we just rolled with it.

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I guess it worked, right.
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your decision or did you have to
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other band members. There's not really. I mean, I have a great

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team, they're great. At the
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and since I couldn't think of a
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let's just call it Dorothy and get
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we did, all right, So
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We can continue this conversation. Now
your band has had you had a

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recent event. I think it was
fairly recent, right, that was pretty

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notable for a conversion in your own
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we get to that event, was
this what was your life prior to this

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event? Because you know, you've
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videos going back like nine or ten
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a normal just rock and roll outfit
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Absolutely. I've been touring for the
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recording artist, writing albums, touring
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the event you're referring to is that
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This tech that we had taken on
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died on the bus. I was
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miracles. I didn't even know if
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that this happened, I was in
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I need you to reveal yourself to
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encourage anyone that's curious about God to
start speaking that out. Because what happened

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next the next day was that this
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my bus and I we prayed over
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this voice said to me, and
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Spirit was speaking to me. And
at the time I didn't know that that

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was the Holy Spirit, but now
I do, and the Holy Spirit said,

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pray, and so we grabbed hands
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God, will you just give this
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he was resurrected. Fortunately, that's
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I've What I really wanted to tell
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Satanic ritual abuse, and I work
with a great ministry team that does inner

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healing and deliverance, and if you
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we can really expose what goes on
in Hollywood with the SRA and the

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mind control. These people help,
you know, the victims that the church

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can't handle, that are so broken
and in need of deliverance, and they

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do it with the help of Jesus
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piecing them back together and healing their
wounds. And I'm only talking about this

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because I went through it my self. You know. I tried therapy,

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I tried drugs and alcohol. I
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better. And I'm telling you this
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I'm here today talking to you about
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you comfortable talking about some of that
In terms of your background? I didn't

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actually know that, So what what
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how did that come about? Was
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or like, did you get inducted
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It was in Hollywood through a Satanist
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was unfortunately not through my family.
However, this is something that does happen

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in family bloodlines a lot of the
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give you a lot more detail and
accurate information on that. But so that's

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not the first miracle I witnessed.
Then I ended up in rehab. Then

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the Holy Spirit spoke to me then
and I was saved. I was watching

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a joel Ostein sermon and it was
like I knew I wanted to know who

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Jesus was. And I started reading
the Bible, and then the Bible started

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reading me, and the Lord started
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divine appointments and interactions with people.
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You know, I'm in this rock
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It's secular music, but yet that's
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to people and share the gospel in
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interceed for them and plant seeds in
the music. So it's a huge honor

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and a blessing to be able to
do that. But the ritual abuse was

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so so long ago. I thought
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had been just living with PTSD for
a very long time. And so two

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people from the church referred me to
my deliverance counselor and she did hands on

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prayer, and the only way I
can describe it is after my deliverance was

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over, the noise stopped. It
was peaceful. It was like just the

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piece that surpasses all understanding. Now, when you say a long time ago,

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are you saying like when you were
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a coven or can you go into
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this was one person although there are
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This was in my early early twenties
and I did black a lot of it

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out. I actually have a hard
time remembering a lot of it. But

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you know, after I was saved
two years later, God started taking me

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through various deliverances. My chronic neck
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after trying medication, doctors, chiropractic
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he wanted to take it. So
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doesn't want to take you through more
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And so it was layers of deliverance
revealing things to me, giving me discernment

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and eyes to see. So now
I just get this this sense I know

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when someone's demonized. And the thing
I want to remind believers and people out

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there everyone is people are not your
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he uses people, people with trauma
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curses in their bloodline, think you
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but there's nothing anyone has done that
can stop them from getting saved and getting

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delivered. That's a free gift from
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a change of heart. So when
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how long ago was this? Was
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prayer the next day. The next
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and I looked at each other,
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And that was the day I was
convinced God was but I didn't.

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That was just kind of Him opening
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himself to me. And then it
was a journey of discovering, you know,

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getting born again, getting baptized,
receiving the Holy Spirit, having the

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eyes to see, getting deliverance,
getting healed, and you know, I'm

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still a baby, and it's just
like kind of a journey with Jesus,

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were walking hand in hand. But
I wanted to share this story because this

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is a real thing that happens to
people, and no it didn't happen as

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a child, but it happens to
children in horrible ways that you couldn't possibly

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imagine. And so I think that
the body of Christ needs to get curious

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about deliverance. Now. Yeah,
so when this occurred, before this event,

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like what was your attitude towards you
know, the divine or things transcended?

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or maybe there's a god, or

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like what was your attitude? Maybe
I wasn't sure, you know, I

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was always one thing I was always
searching for was the truth. And I

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definitely had an awakening in my early
twenties thanks to David Ike. Actually,

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I mean his material was so insane
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sense to me. And I was
blown away that I knew chemtrails were real,

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but yet nobody seemed to want to
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So I had an awakening then,
but then I went back to sleep.

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We're being a bombarded on all sides
by all these things to put us to

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sleep, to keep us stupid,
to keep us sick, and I went

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back to sleep. But you know, that's just like expert level gaslighting,

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when you have the spraying and the
sky and you can see it with your

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eyes, and Google's telling you that
it's a conspiracy theory. And as someone

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who's a survivor of SRA and narcissistic
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fire alarms, my internal alarms just
go off. So it's I guess it's

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good that I went through those things
and came out the other side, because

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now I'm a weapon against this.
And I told the Lord, just use

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me as a you know, just
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I'm just sick of it. Let's
go. So did you You said

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that you kind of had an awareness
of some of these elements of the New

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World Order and what was going on. Was that prior to the conversion experience

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or was it the conversion experience?
And then you really saw how this battle

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that were in isn't just a geopolitical
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connect it with the spiritual until I
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like the whole thing makes sense.
And I really credit David Ike with connecting

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a lot of seemingly unrelated dots and
alex and people who can see and expand

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their vision and see the bigger picture. That's that's something else like. And

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when you do have the spirit of
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given a level of discernment. It's
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that's one of the gifts that's mentioned
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I'm curious because you know, right
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deals with aliens and all this kind
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there's a there's a deep seated deception
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go back to people involved working with
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this is actually a mass level deception. Like Jacob Eli, the famous DoD

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computer or scientist guy. He says
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even a Christian, but he's able
to recognize that there is something involved in

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this that's more than just human beings
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spirits were going on. But he
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they're not extraterrestrial, they're actually terrestrial. They're part of this planet and

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they are involved in an asked aception
to steer in a social engineering way human

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beings into some kind of world government
or something like this. Would you agree

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with that? What's your take on
the whole alien phenomenon. I could definitely

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see that. I mean, I
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think it's demonic. I think it's
connected. It's beyond I understanding, certainly.

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is the mainstream talking about it,
probably not. I don't know too much

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about the alien thing. I think
it's I believe it was Alistair Crowley that

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said it conjured some entity that said, you know, you call us demons,

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they call us aliens, and one
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the same something along those lines.
I don't want to misquote, but I

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think a lot of the things that
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they really are not fallen angels bound
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alien to me. Yeah, No, I think that the element of it

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that is is demonic is precisely you
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That's what I'm saying. It's I'm
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things going on, so it's not
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I think there's a real phenomena that's
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grainy clip on YouTube is demonic,
but I'm saying that there is an element

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by which, for example, if
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or people who've done a lot of
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or Timothy Leary or John C.
Lily, when they talk about their trips

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and when they talk about interacting with
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the same type of thing that David
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always say that the message that they've
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need to depopulate. You can't run
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gonna get the utopia, a kind
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mean that to me just screams the
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engaged in prompting human beings to do
the same types of activities like offer up

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you're firstborn to us, right,
you know this kind of stuff. So

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that's exactly what the entities that are
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different than what I mean Alex was
saying. You know Ellen Page today,

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like her her process of hearing a
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mean to me, that is again, why is no one accepting the best

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explanation for these phenomena is the demonic
diar of Jay's analysis. Don't remind you

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too that if you want to get
deep into that alien nonsense and all the

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breakdowns that I've done, if you
go to Bandai video, you can search

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my name and you'll find at least
four or five different fourth hours that I've

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done deconstructing the alien stuff from my
vantage point. You go to my YouTube

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channel, Jaydyer, and you can
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a couple of days ago, just
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I want to note too that if
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a really interesting passage. Is one
of the most famous Messianic passages predicting the

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Messiah says that shall come forth a
root from the rod of Jesse, a

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flowers shall grow out of his root. The spirit of God will rest upon

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him, the spirit of wisdom,
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spirit of the fear of God shall
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the son of Jesse. There that
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Jesus the Messiah. And so we
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these seven spirits, and Paul and
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Spirit. And so I'm assuming that
that's where Dorothy got the inspiration for her

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most recent album a few months ago, right, which is Gifts from the

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Holy Ghost. Right, So I
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opened the Bible. I feel like, God, how can you give you

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downloads? And this happened. I
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York City. I was writing and
recording the record. I woke up and

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the first thing I heard was Gifts
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down, and I didn't know what
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With the fruits of the Holy Spirit
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So I wrote it down and I
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title. I finished the last song
Gifts from the Holy Ghost, and which

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I feel has very rich spiritual messaging, and there it was, and I

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ended up getting saved after that.
So God's really funny with his perfect divine

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timing of doing things so that you
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yeah, Divine providence is I think
you know, before I got into this

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worldview, you tend to see things
as synchronicity, right, Let's like Carl

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Young synchronicity. But then that you
start to realize, well, synchronicity doesn't

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really make sense if it's like coming
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the way Karl Young pictures it all. It's like even as an essay where

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he talks about UFOs and he says, oh, the UFOs are a manifestation

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of our unconscious, right, But
that doesn't really make sense because it's not

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our unconscious that's manifesting these things.
There is a divine mind, the divine

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consciousness, you could say, And
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organized via divine providence, by our
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To me, that makes a lot
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manifests it like Karl Young says,
but yeah, I think that on the

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notion of spiritual warfare too, And
we didn't really mention this in the pre

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interview discussion, but you know,
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as to my knowledge, only the
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exorcism at baptism. So in the
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of exorcism as part of the baptismal
ritual. I'm not knocking you know,

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your conversion or anything like that.
I'm just saying that one of the reasons

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I found Orthodoxy appealing was that when
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you have this ancient baptismal right,
and they would always include the ritual

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of exorcism as part of baptism.
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you know, the Church has to
have this notion of the reality of spiritual

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warfare, and a lot of the
Orthodox hymnography, a lot of the chance

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that we see they are their rife
with this notion of spiritual warfare and battling

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the demonic realm, and I think
that that's an element that I'm not personally

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charismatic obviously, but a lot of
charismatics get that element correct, like they

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realize there is a reality to spiritual
warfare. And some charismatics can go crazy

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with this, but a lot of
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churches kind of have a fractured element
where they like different ones have pieces of

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truth. Right. But I think
that if we understand the notion of authority,

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if we understand the notion of the
church possessing this power. You know,

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Jesus said you will do these things, you will cast out demons,

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he says to the apostles in Luke
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you authority over the scorpions, over
all the enemy and so forth. So

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I appreciate that, you know,
you've incorporated that into your music and into

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your worldview about how you approach writing. Do you find that to be difficult

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when you write with the people that
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big thing drop what I know,
You've got your album which is about some

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months ago. You have a new
song that just dropped with Nita right.

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Yes, Nita Strouss Victorious fellow Believer, and we wanted a very empowering song

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that was going to encourage young women, I think we accomplished that. So,

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yeah, her and I talk about
this. It's it's true. Spiritual

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warfare is a real thing. Believers
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a lot of them don't know their
authority, and the enemy will hammer them.

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And it's so obvious because the devil
never has any new tricks. I

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mean, it's always before a big
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And if you can just nail your
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react to the flesh, and pick
up your tools, go into praise and

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worship, use the word of God, which is the sort of the spirit,

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command that enemy to leave you in
the name of Jesus. Command those

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spirits Jezebel, whoever's attacking you to
go in Jesus name. And if you

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know your authority and you've been given
it by Jesus, they have to obey

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you. And yeah, of course
the devil wants you to worship him,

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but he hates humans, he hates
us, So why would you worship something

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that hates us, that wants to
see your demise in your destruction. I

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mean that sounds like, you know, masochism to me. That's a really

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good point. I think that a
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and more serious about their Satanism,
for example, they actually do get into

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harming themselves. You know, if
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when not just the Fall, when
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the first thief and liar, right, he lied, he stole man's life,

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that was what he did in the
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the time of Elijah when he's dealing
with the profits of bail, when they're

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on the mountain having that spiritual confrontation, what is it that the profits of

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bail are doing. They're they're cutting
themselves and they're trying to invoke they all

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Bail's abub right by cutting themselves self
harm and the release of the blood and

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whatnot, they thought would bring this
entity, that would bring this power to

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them. And it didn't. Nothing
happened, right, It only harmed them.

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we see people who are mentioned committing
suicide, there's only a few of these

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in scripture. There's Judas and there's
Saul. And in both cases Judas and

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Saul were specifically said to be possessed
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that Judas was a lot more possessed
than Saul was. But both of those

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guys killed themselves. So we have
two instances in scripture of suicide, and

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in both cases the people were specifically
demonically possessed. So the theme here that

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I'm getting at is that every time
we see this manifestation in scripture of the

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presence of the demonic, and it's
always self harm. Remember the guy in

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the tombs. When Jesus casts out
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it says that he kept throwing himself
into the fire and trying to kill

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himself. So every time suicide appears, it's always in the presence of the

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demonic, and that to me suggests
that self harm mutilating oneself. This is

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very relevant for a lot of what's
going on in our culture right now.

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It has a spiritual root. It's
not just bad ideology. It's a spiritual

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problem. And until we address the
spiritual problem, the problems can't be fixed.

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You can't fix these things with politics. What do you think, Well,

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yeah, And I want to point
out that the Blood covenants, the

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drinking of the blood in Hollywood,
the cutting, the releasing of blood.

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Blood is the highest currency in the
spirit realm. That's why Jesus gave his

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blood for us and made a mockery
of Satan and disarmed him and defeated him

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and took the keys back. It
was the power in the blood. The

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reason is that blood is the highest
currency in the spirit realm. So and

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yeah, it's definitely demonic when you
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I would suggest getting getting some deliverance
and coming to know God because he can

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set you free from all that.
You could have sold your soul to Satan

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himself or have it embedded in your
bloodline and still be set free. Satan

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doesn't own your soul. He doesn't
have any right to it. He has

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no authority over it. God God
does. And God's name is literally printed

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on your DNA. So I think
that settles that. I want to remind

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everybody that they can follow you.
We still got another segment after this,

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but they can follow you over on
your channel at Dorothy. They can check

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out the new album Gifts from the
Holy Ghost, what relatively new past few

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months, right, and then your
new song with is on I think her

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channel, and they can follow you
on Instagram as right as well, right

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right, just at Dorothy, I
got lucky, I got the handle that

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if you are in the La Hollywood
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July sixth with Jamie Kennedy, Yes, Jamie Kennedy from the Jamie Kennedy Experiment,

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from Malibu's Most Wanted from Scream Randy
Meeks in person. How would you

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not want to be there for that? It's a blast. Our live events

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are the bomb if you don't know, it's more like a five hour party.

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At our live events. We do
comedy, we do impressions, we

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do serious stuff. We actually get
into a lot of real hardcore information.

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My wife will be doing a discussion
on esoteric Hollywood, what you guys know,

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I have two books on that,
and I will be doing a presentation

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on my new book, Meta Narratives, The Essays on Philosophy and Symbolism,

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So I'll be covering a lot of
philosophical topics as well as doing a lot

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of ridiculous nonsense. And as you
guys may or may not have seen,

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I performed my first cringe course song
live last weekend at Courtney Turner's event,

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and so the crowd got trolled.
They didn't know what they were gonna get,

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and they actually got a live version
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Pure Live, and I might actually
do quite a few of those if

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you come to the LA event as
well as serious stuff. So if you

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head on over to my website,
Jason alsos dot com, you'll see under

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every post there is the link of
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the links there the event right links.

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It's gonna be a lot of fun. And then of course Jamie will be

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Jamie Kennedy will be the headliner doing
some stand up, and you can also

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get on over to his merch table
and meet him and get a few picks

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with him. He's a great dude, very cool. Let's get back to

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this notion of spiritual warfare. I
think again, think about what we're told

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with alien nonsense, right, aliens
or these interdimensional entities. The message is

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always that if you just have a
world government, if you just worship us,

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if you just depopulate, we'll give
you solutions, We'll give you advanced

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technology. This is the message of
childhoods in Remember, Arthur C. Clark

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was himself a confessed Chrolean, I
confessed Luciferian. He had some weird predilections

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in terms of the peto stuff,
as Alex just talked about this week,

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And in his book he actually writes
that Carolin the Overlord is a freaking demon.

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He's got hoofs. He looks like
a giant demon. And people can't

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figure this out. The soy nerds
are out there like, oh it's science.

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Oh they're advanced from another civilization and
they're gonna bring me a coom potter

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and I could just have fun forever. It means great. No, it's

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a demon, dummy. It even
looks like a freaking demon, and you

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can't tell it's a demon. Come
on, now, come on, what

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is wrong with you people? It's
a massive deception. Now. In scripture,

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we have the story early on in
Genesis. It's implicit in Genesis,

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and then it's explained later on by
chapter three, and then as the text

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progresses we get the story of before
Man's fall, there was another fall.

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Did you know there was another fall
before man fell? That was the Angelic

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Fall, and that Angelic fall happened
outside of time and space, outside of

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the normal phase of human experience of
time. It happened in the spiritual realm,

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the aon is what the Church fathers
called it. And so the angels,

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because they don't exist in time like
humans do, they were tested at

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once and outside of time. When
they fell, it was an instantaneous fall,

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and angels from every one of those
ranks of the nine choirs that are

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listed in the various texts of Scripture
fell John says that one third of the

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angels fell with Satan, and so
they launched into this rebellion against God and

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against humankind. As Dorothy said,
they hate humans. Why well, in

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orthodox theology, we understand that they
hate human beings because humans are made not

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just in the image of God,
but also to be raised, as Paul

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says, above the angels. So
there's a fundamental envy that Satan and his

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hosts had against man because man was
made in the image of the Logos.

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In our view in the garden,
it's man that's walking around with the logos

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with the preincarnate Christ. Man is
made in the image of Christ. Adam,

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Paul says, Adam is after the
image of Christ. In his letters.

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So it's a more specific notion of
being made in the image of God,

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not in the image of the Trinity, but also in the image of

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the Logos, the preincarnate Logos,
who would then become incarnate. So a

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man himself in the garden is kind
of a prefiguring, a foreshadowing of the

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incarnation. And thus Satan's hatred of
humankind results from this envy and desire to

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destroy the thing that reminds him of
his creator Christ. You say, in

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the beginning, was the Word or
was with God? The Word was God.

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All things came to be through the
Logos. Christ is the creator even

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of Satan. And so the angelic
fall created this race of entities, you

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could say angelic race. Then Dad's
set on destroying humankind at first until the

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birth of Christ, to destroy and
persecute Israel because Israel would give birth to

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the massium, and then now the
Church to destroy the Church, because the

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Church is the body of the Massium
on earth. Read Isaiah. Isaiah is

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the fifth Gospel. So I want
to go back to Dorothy. Dorothy,

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you were talking about this spiritual warfare
when you before you were interested in these

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topics, before you had your conversion
experience, How did you look upon Christianity?

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Did you see it as a bunch
of goofballs and goobers that were duped

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and believed a bunch of stupid stuff. Or was it because they didn't talk

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about the reality of the spiritual warfare
and the reality of what you saw in

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Hollywood? Or what was it that? How did you see it before I

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saw it the way the world sees
it. You know, I couldn't.

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I couldn't sit in church and during
worship it made me cringe. You know.

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The one or two times I had
gone to church, I felt completely

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uncomfortable, crawling out of my skin, probably because I was demonized. And

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they really don't like that, you
know. But when when you accept Jesus,

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you give him legal authority over your
life, and now you get the

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veil comes off and you see the
truth. And I honestly can't believe I'm

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sitting here and I'm saying, yes, I read about Jesus, and I

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talk to Jesus and I pray,
and I know what spiritual warfare is.

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I love it when the Satanists say, you know, Satanism is just about

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self worship. There's no devil.
Yes, there's a devil, and the

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demons are spirits without bodies, you
know, and those that have the eyes

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to see you can see them.
So you're not crazy, body of Christ.

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You're not you know, you're not
losing it. You've been given a

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gift that can be uncomfortable to operate
in sometimes, but you're you know,

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we're trying to save as many souls
before it's time to go. And the

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last thing, one of the last
things I wanted to say is no matter

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what you've done, you can still
get be saved and get delivered. And

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alson is the same when it's nailed
to the cross. I mean, Paul

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was murdering Christians, right, So
just remember that when you start to listen

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to the flame aiming arrows of the
enemy coming into your mind with the shame

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and the condemnation and the guilt,
the devil will lie to you in your

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own voice, and the mind is
the battlefield. And if you go into

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praise and worship, that will break. That's one tactic. So it's absolutely

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real. And here I am.
I would never go back to my life

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before Jesus, for all the money
in the world, for all the fame,

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for all the dreams, all the
fruit that the devil wants to give

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you is poison. It's tainted,
and the demons always come to collect their

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pound of flesh, you know,
and everything he has is just a sad

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counterfeit. And I would never My
life now is just too good. Serving

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God is just so fulfilling. I
don't feel alone. And since everyone is

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feeling so alone and isolated, and
that's just an epidemic in our world,

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maybe they need to try God.
Because I have a sense of just being

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loved and cared for and connected with
the body of Christ. I will run

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into people I don't even know,
and we will pray together, and we

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know that God orchestrated that meeting as
a divine appointment that day because someone needed

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it. So it's pretty miraculous and
supernatural. I mean, it's serve an

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awesome God. And I'm still going
to play rock and roll, so it's

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the best of both worlds. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know,

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David, multiple people in the Old
Testament we're skilled musicians, so you

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know, nothing, there's nothing wrong
all the talents that we have, or

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talents given to us by God,
you know, to use for that for

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that purpose. So I'm really cool
to have you on. Thank you for

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giving your testimony, your journey.
I think that people should understand that as

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things get more insane, as we
see more and more evil, that's actually

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a call to repentance. It's a
call to noticing that there's objective good.

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Right. Evil is not a thing
that exists or has being in the sense

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of you know, everything that God
created it exists as good. And what

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evil does is that it's a privation. It's agation against the good. It's

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always an act against the good.
That's it. That's all they ever can

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be. And so the more that
we see evil in the world, it

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should wake people up, especially people
who are skeptics or people who don't think

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that well. I mean, why
is there a commonality amongst the all of

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the ancient empires of the world having
this anti human agenda where the empires enact

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the worship of some weird you know, deity or ruler or tyrant Nimrod Babbel,

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and they require human sacrifice. If
there's objective evil, there's objective good.
