I mean, the alien stuff is wild. In fact, I did a
fourth hour almost two years ago. It was December twenty twenty one, and
you can see right there I got a nice amount of views there. Coming
announcement of alien life is a technocratic PSIOP. Put a good amount of time
into this topic over the last several years. I did a live stream two
nights ago on my YouTube channel about two or three hours just devoted to the
whole history of the CIA's relationship to the so called alien phenomenon. I view
it as pretty much a psi op. You can go to the history of
alien cults. The intelligence agencies have had a long, in depth relationship with
a lot of these alien cults, whether it's scientology or the realiens or any
of these entities. Really they're all study. They're all sort of fostered,
and it's like a test tube where they let these things grow and they become
great studies, you could say, for how to socially engineer, I covered
the fact that I think when I was in studio with Alex a few months
ago, I covered the fact that the top eight things to expect by the
year twenty thirty of the World Economic Forum, that top eight Things to Expect
video that went viral that they subsequently took down. I think they put up
in twenty eighteen that video said we may in fact mentioned the discovery of alien
life by twenty thirty. So they're actually just rolling out stuff that they've had
planned for a long time. And I think, as you covered the other
day, Alex, the stories that they're giving now are the same stories that
have been recycled for the last twenty thirty years. I remember old Google video
clips of General's all been to the underground bases, and I've seen the clones
and how many times have we heard this story they're cloning aliens in the beaches.
That's because it's the same story that they recycle, and that goes all
the way back to the Roswell crash that was a military involved crash. So
called it the same recycled story because the stories work. You go to the
original people Betty and Barney Hill, you go to the Georgia Damski story.
All of these stories have the same patterns, the same archetypes involved. They
always have the same technocratic message. And that's why if you'd look at the
character Adamski, the first so called abductee story. A lot of people don't
know that Alan Dullas was running point for him. Anybody that would question Adamski
or try to take him to court, Alan Dullas threatened to take them to
court. Why did Alan Dullas care what Georgia Damski was up to, Well,
he would care if this was part of a longer SSI op. And
you can look at figures like CD Jackson, who was the author of the
Doctrinal Warfare program where the CIA was utilizing and co opting churches throughout the Cold
War. He also was involved in consulting on a lot of different film projects.
If I recall, he was involved in the Day of the Earth Stood
Still, which is the story where the aliens are coming outside threat and if
we don't create a world government, a world socialist government will never survived the
alien threat or the threat of the nukes and all this kind of stuff.
So in my view, this is all one percent an outlined siout. In
fact, I've covered for many years the late sixties Brookings Report Institute. They've
said in the late sixties and they were commissioned by NaSTA to put this out.
This is in doctor Brenda Densler's book on the History of the alien phenomenon.
She's an academic writing about this from an academic perspective. She said that
in that nineteen sixties report, they outlined the fact that the discovery of alien
life quote unquote would have totally destructive effects on the history of Western civilizations religious
myths. So the Bible, for example, would be undercut in its story
and it's narrative by the alien mythos and so it's a psi op. It's
intended to It does a lot of things. It's a cover for black ops.
It's a cover for advanced technology by the government and by corporations. It's
a cover for drug running that goes on at some of these bases, and
other nefarious activities. It was a psi op in the Cold War to you
know, tell the Soviets that there's aliens and all this kind of stuff.
So it serves a lot of functions, but on the longer scale, multi
multi decade narrative, it serves to give a new religious mythology to the West
and to the world, perhaps to replace the Biblical narratives. And they even
say that in the White Papers. The Brookings Institute report from the nineteen sixties
late sixties to replace the biblical narrative. So I wanna go to my guests
today rock and roll star Dorothy joins me. Dorothy reached out and said that
she likes the Fourth Hour, she likes this show, she likes this material,
and I want to get into discussing her journey, how she woke up
to a lot of this, how she got into the topic of the New
World Order. But Dorothy, how are you today? I'm great, Thanks
for having me, Thanks for coming on. We only have a few seconds
here. Let's talk about your band first. How does the name Dorothy?
Is this Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz Dorothy? It's just my birth name.
I'm bringing it back. I guess it's an old Hollywood name and I
couldn't think of a good band name, so we just rolled with it.
I guess it worked, right. Did you have carte blanche? Was that
your decision or did you have to like pass it by the committee of the
other band members. There's not really. I mean, I have a great
team, they're great. At the time, it was my manager's idea,
and since I couldn't think of a band name, I said, all right,
let's just call it Dorothy and get the band together. And that's what
we did, all right, So we're gonna skip the break. That's good.
We can continue this conversation. Now your band has had you had a
recent event. I think it was fairly recent, right, that was pretty
notable for a conversion in your own life. So first I want to before
we get to that event, was this what was your life prior to this
event? Because you know, you've got records and stuff going back at least
videos going back like nine or ten years. So were you like more of
a normal just rock and roll outfit than like living pretty wild or not?
Absolutely. I've been touring for the last nine years. I've been a signed
recording artist, writing albums, touring with my rock band, and I think
the event you're referring to is that I witnessed a miracle on my tour bus.
This tech that we had taken on tour took an overdose of heroin and
died on the bus. I was not a Christian. I didn't believe in
miracles. I didn't even know if God was real. And the night before
that this happened, I was in my bunk praying God if you're real.
I need you to reveal yourself to me because I'm really struggling, and I
encourage anyone that's curious about God to start speaking that out. Because what happened
next the next day was that this young man, you know, died on
my bus and I we prayed over him. We prayed over him, and
this voice said to me, and you know, it was like the Holy
Spirit was speaking to me. And at the time I didn't know that that
was the Holy Spirit, but now I do, and the Holy Spirit said,
pray, and so we grabbed hands and prayed for him. I said,
God, will you just give this young man one more chance? And
he was resurrected. Fortunately, that's not the only miracle I've witnessed. I
I've What I really wanted to tell you today is I'm actually a survivor of
Satanic ritual abuse, and I work with a great ministry team that does inner
healing and deliverance, and if you want to have them on at some point,
we can really expose what goes on in Hollywood with the SRA and the
mind control. These people help, you know, the victims that the church
can't handle, that are so broken and in need of deliverance, and they
do it with the help of Jesus God, taking their fractured soul parts and
piecing them back together and healing their wounds. And I'm only talking about this
because I went through it my self. You know. I tried therapy,
I tried drugs and alcohol. I tried all the things to make myself feel
better. And I'm telling you this is real. It's really a miracle that
I'm here today talking to you about it. Yeah, I mean, are
you comfortable talking about some of that In terms of your background? I didn't
actually know that, So what what can you say about that in terms of
how did that come about? Was it something that was part of your family
or like, did you get inducted into this in Hollywood or what happened?
It was in Hollywood through a Satanist that I was involved with, and it
was unfortunately not through my family. However, this is something that does happen
in family bloodlines a lot of the time, and my deliverance counselor could probably
give you a lot more detail and accurate information on that. But so that's
not the first miracle I witnessed. Then I ended up in rehab. Then
the Holy Spirit spoke to me then and I was saved. I was watching
a joel Ostein sermon and it was like I knew I wanted to know who
Jesus was. And I started reading the Bible, and then the Bible started
reading me, and the Lord started speaking through the Bible and having me have
divine appointments and interactions with people. So since then, it's been pretty miraculous.
You know, I'm in this rock and roll band, we're touring.
It's secular music, but yet that's I guess where God has me to speak
to people and share the gospel in a way and also pray for them and
interceed for them and plant seeds in the music. So it's a huge honor
and a blessing to be able to do that. But the ritual abuse was
so so long ago. I thought I had recovered from it, but I
had been just living with PTSD for a very long time. And so two
people from the church referred me to my deliverance counselor and she did hands on
prayer, and the only way I can describe it is after my deliverance was
over, the noise stopped. It was peaceful. It was like just the
piece that surpasses all understanding. Now, when you say a long time ago,
are you saying like when you were really young, or was this like
a coven or can you go into any of that or do you not recall
this was one person although there are covens and families and things like that.
This was in my early early twenties and I did black a lot of it
out. I actually have a hard time remembering a lot of it. But
you know, after I was saved two years later, God started taking me
through various deliverances. My chronic neck pain was gone with hands on prayer,
after trying medication, doctors, chiropractic things like that, and then and then
he wanted to take it. So God will heal you in layers because he
doesn't want to take you through more than you can handle at the time.
And so it was layers of deliverance revealing things to me, giving me discernment
and eyes to see. So now I just get this this sense I know
when someone's demonized. And the thing I want to remind believers and people out
there everyone is people are not your enemy. Satan is your enemy, and
he uses people, people with trauma and open gateways, and you know,
curses in their bloodline, think you know, the sins of our father,
but there's nothing anyone has done that can stop them from getting saved and getting
delivered. That's a free gift from Jesus and it's available to everyone. It's
a change of heart. So when you had this experience on the tour bus,
how long ago was this? Was this recent or a few years ago?
When was this? This was a few years ago? I prayed the
prayer the next day. The next evening this happened, and my sound guy
and I looked at each other, like, what just happened, you know?
And that was the day I was convinced God was but I didn't.
That was just kind of Him opening the door, I guess, and revealing
himself to me. And then it was a journey of discovering, you know,
getting born again, getting baptized, receiving the Holy Spirit, having the
eyes to see, getting deliverance, getting healed, and you know, I'm
still a baby, and it's just like kind of a journey with Jesus,
were walking hand in hand. But I wanted to share this story because this
is a real thing that happens to people, and no it didn't happen as
a child, but it happens to children in horrible ways that you couldn't possibly
imagine. And so I think that the body of Christ needs to get curious
about deliverance. Now. Yeah, so when this occurred, before this event,
like what was your attitude towards you know, the divine or things transcended?
Did you think there was no god or maybe there's a god, or
like what was your attitude? Maybe I wasn't sure, you know, I
was always one thing I was always searching for was the truth. And I
definitely had an awakening in my early twenties thanks to David Ike. Actually,
I mean his material was so insane that it was the only thing that made
sense to me. And I was blown away that I knew chemtrails were real,
but yet nobody seemed to want to acknowledge it. Things like that.
So I had an awakening then, but then I went back to sleep.
We're being a bombarded on all sides by all these things to put us to
sleep, to keep us stupid, to keep us sick, and I went
back to sleep. But you know, that's just like expert level gaslighting,
when you have the spraying and the sky and you can see it with your
eyes, and Google's telling you that it's a conspiracy theory. And as someone
who's a survivor of SRA and narcissistic abuse, now when that happens, my
fire alarms, my internal alarms just go off. So it's I guess it's
good that I went through those things and came out the other side, because
now I'm a weapon against this. And I told the Lord, just use
me as a you know, just use me to blow up the enemy's camp.
I'm just sick of it. Let's go. So did you You said
that you kind of had an awareness of some of these elements of the New
World Order and what was going on. Was that prior to the conversion experience
or was it the conversion experience? And then you really saw how this battle
that were in isn't just a geopolitical thing, it's also a spiritual thing.
Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I saw it, and I didn't
connect it with the spiritual until I had a spiritual awakening. And now it's
like the whole thing makes sense. And I really credit David Ike with connecting
a lot of seemingly unrelated dots and alex and people who can see and expand
their vision and see the bigger picture. That's that's something else like. And
when you do have the spirit of truth than the Holy Spirit, you are
given a level of discernment. It's undeniable. Yeah, I mean absolutely,
that's one of the gifts that's mentioned in I think the Corinthians passage. And
I'm curious because you know, right now we're seeing this barrage of news that
deals with aliens and all this kind of nonsense. And I've always believed that
there's a there's a deep seated deception involved in this alien phenomena. You can
go back to people involved working with the Pentagon who then came out and said
this is actually a mass level deception. Like Jacob Eli, the famous DoD
computer or scientist guy. He says this is a malevolent deception. He's not
even a Christian, but he's able to recognize that there is something involved in
this that's more than just human beings at a manipulation level. There's also something
spirits were going on. But he actually says that the entities involved in this,
they're not extraterrestrial, they're actually terrestrial. They're part of this planet and
they are involved in an asked aception to steer in a social engineering way human
beings into some kind of world government or something like this. Would you agree
with that? What's your take on the whole alien phenomenon. I could definitely
see that. I mean, I definitely don't put that past them. I
think it's demonic. I think it's connected. It's beyond I understanding, certainly.
And if you have people in the government kind of leaking this information,
is the mainstream talking about it, probably not. I don't know too much
about the alien thing. I think it's I believe it was Alistair Crowley that
said it conjured some entity that said, you know, you call us demons,
they call us aliens, and one day you'll know that it's one and
the same something along those lines. I don't want to misquote, but I
think a lot of the things that seem alien are just are demonic, and
they really are not fallen angels bound in cosmic realms. I mean that sounds
alien to me. Yeah, No, I think that the element of it
that is is demonic is precisely you know, it's a fallen angel situation.
That's what I'm saying. It's I'm not saying it's all I think there's multiple
things going on, so it's not just the government engaging in black ops.
I think there's a real phenomena that's going on. I'm not saying every little
grainy clip on YouTube is demonic, but I'm saying that there is an element
by which, for example, if you look at people who've done DMT,
or people who've done a lot of acid, or the psychonauts like Terrence McKenna
or Timothy Leary or John C. Lily, when they talk about their trips
and when they talk about interacting with these interdimensional entities, you know, it's
the same type of thing that David Ike talks about that you mentioned. They
always say that the message that they've been given is haval role government. You
need to depopulate. You can't run the planet correctly because you built bombs.
And if you just do what we say and you worship us, then you're
gonna get the utopia, a kind of a socialist tech utopia. So I
mean that to me just screams the demonic. I mean, demons have always
engaged in prompting human beings to do the same types of activities like offer up
you're firstborn to us, right, you know this kind of stuff. So
that's exactly what the entities that are speaking to people are saying. It's no
different than what I mean Alex was saying. You know Ellen Page today,
like her her process of hearing a voice telling her to mutilate herself. I
mean to me, that is again, why is no one accepting the best
explanation for these phenomena is the demonic diar of Jay's analysis. Don't remind you
too that if you want to get deep into that alien nonsense and all the
breakdowns that I've done, if you go to Bandai video, you can search
my name and you'll find at least four or five different fourth hours that I've
done deconstructing the alien stuff from my vantage point. You go to my YouTube
channel, Jaydyer, and you can find the most recent podcast that we did
a couple of days ago, just kind of mocking and making fun of this.
I want to note too that if you look at Isaiah eleven, there's
a really interesting passage. Is one of the most famous Messianic passages predicting the
Messiah says that shall come forth a root from the rod of Jesse, a
flowers shall grow out of his root. The spirit of God will rest upon
him, the spirit of wisdom, understanding counsel, might, knowledge godliness,
spirit of the fear of God shall kill him. And of course David being
the son of Jesse. There that is a reference to the divinic lineage of
Jesus the Messiah. And so we have these spirits that are mentioned, right,
these seven spirits, and Paul and First Grinthians mentions these gifts of the
Spirit. And so I'm assuming that that's where Dorothy got the inspiration for her
most recent album a few months ago, right, which is Gifts from the
Holy Ghost. Right, So I actually named the album before I had ever
opened the Bible. I feel like, God, how can you give you
downloads? And this happened. I woke up in my hotel room in New
York City. I was writing and recording the record. I woke up and
the first thing I heard was Gifts from the Holy Ghost. I wrote it
down, and I didn't know what the gifts from the Holy Spirit were.
With the fruits of the Holy Spirit were Church made me nervous, you know.
So I wrote it down and I thought that sounds like a great album
title. I finished the last song Gifts from the Holy Ghost, and which
I feel has very rich spiritual messaging, and there it was, and I
ended up getting saved after that. So God's really funny with his perfect divine
timing of doing things so that you know it's him. Oh, absolutely,
yeah, Divine providence is I think you know, before I got into this
worldview, you tend to see things as synchronicity, right, Let's like Carl
Young synchronicity. But then that you start to realize, well, synchronicity doesn't
really make sense if it's like coming from my psyche, right, That's what
the way Karl Young pictures it all. It's like even as an essay where
he talks about UFOs and he says, oh, the UFOs are a manifestation
of our unconscious, right, But that doesn't really make sense because it's not
our unconscious that's manifesting these things. There is a divine mind, the divine
consciousness, you could say, And that makes sense for how reality can be
organized via divine providence, by our free will working together with divine providence.
To me, that makes a lot more sense than this idea that our psyche
manifests it like Karl Young says, but yeah, I think that on the
notion of spiritual warfare too, And we didn't really mention this in the pre
interview discussion, but you know, I'm Orthodox, and it's ironic because only
as to my knowledge, only the Orthodox Church still does the ancient form of
exorcism at baptism. So in the early Church they would actually do a ritual
of exorcism as part of the baptismal ritual. I'm not knocking you know,
your conversion or anything like that. I'm just saying that one of the reasons
I found Orthodoxy appealing was that when you look into the history of the Church,
you have this ancient baptismal right, and they would always include the ritual
of exorcism as part of baptism. And to me, that suggests that,
you know, the Church has to have this notion of the reality of spiritual
warfare, and a lot of the Orthodox hymnography, a lot of the chance
that we see they are their rife with this notion of spiritual warfare and battling
the demonic realm, and I think that that's an element that I'm not personally
charismatic obviously, but a lot of charismatics get that element correct, like they
realize there is a reality to spiritual warfare. And some charismatics can go crazy
with this, but a lot of it might be a lot of the Protestant
churches kind of have a fractured element where they like different ones have pieces of
truth. Right. But I think that if we understand the notion of authority,
if we understand the notion of the church possessing this power. You know,
Jesus said you will do these things, you will cast out demons,
he says to the apostles in Luke right, and he says, I've given
you authority over the scorpions, over all the enemy and so forth. So
I appreciate that, you know, you've incorporated that into your music and into
your worldview about how you approach writing. Do you find that to be difficult
when you write with the people that you write with because you just have this
big thing drop what I know, You've got your album which is about some
months ago. You have a new song that just dropped with Nita right.
Yes, Nita Strouss Victorious fellow Believer, and we wanted a very empowering song
that was going to encourage young women, I think we accomplished that. So,
yeah, her and I talk about this. It's it's true. Spiritual
warfare is a real thing. Believers have been given authority by Jesus, and
a lot of them don't know their authority, and the enemy will hammer them.
And it's so obvious because the devil never has any new tricks. I
mean, it's always before a big interview or before of some big blessing.
And if you can just nail your flesh to the cross to speak and not
react to the flesh, and pick up your tools, go into praise and
worship, use the word of God, which is the sort of the spirit,
command that enemy to leave you in the name of Jesus. Command those
spirits Jezebel, whoever's attacking you to go in Jesus name. And if you
know your authority and you've been given it by Jesus, they have to obey
you. And yeah, of course the devil wants you to worship him,
but he hates humans, he hates us, So why would you worship something
that hates us, that wants to see your demise in your destruction. I
mean that sounds like, you know, masochism to me. That's a really
good point. I think that a lot of times people that are getting more
and more serious about their Satanism, for example, they actually do get into
harming themselves. You know, if you go back to the Old Testament,
when not just the Fall, when you know, Jesus says that Satan was
the first thief and liar, right, he lied, he stole man's life,
that was what he did in the garden. If you fast forward to
the time of Elijah when he's dealing with the profits of bail, when they're
on the mountain having that spiritual confrontation, what is it that the profits of
bail are doing. They're they're cutting themselves and they're trying to invoke they all
Bail's abub right by cutting themselves self harm and the release of the blood and
whatnot, they thought would bring this entity, that would bring this power to
them. And it didn't. Nothing happened, right, It only harmed them.
And if you look at other instances in scripture, for example, where
we see people who are mentioned committing suicide, there's only a few of these
in scripture. There's Judas and there's Saul. And in both cases Judas and
Saul were specifically said to be possessed in I guess different degrees. I think
that Judas was a lot more possessed than Saul was. But both of those
guys killed themselves. So we have two instances in scripture of suicide, and
in both cases the people were specifically demonically possessed. So the theme here that
I'm getting at is that every time we see this manifestation in scripture of the
presence of the demonic, and it's always self harm. Remember the guy in
the tombs. When Jesus casts out the demon the guy wandering in the tombs,
it says that he kept throwing himself into the fire and trying to kill
himself. So every time suicide appears, it's always in the presence of the
demonic, and that to me suggests that self harm mutilating oneself. This is
very relevant for a lot of what's going on in our culture right now.
It has a spiritual root. It's not just bad ideology. It's a spiritual
problem. And until we address the spiritual problem, the problems can't be fixed.
You can't fix these things with politics. What do you think, Well,
yeah, And I want to point out that the Blood covenants, the
drinking of the blood in Hollywood, the cutting, the releasing of blood.
Blood is the highest currency in the spirit realm. That's why Jesus gave his
blood for us and made a mockery of Satan and disarmed him and defeated him
and took the keys back. It was the power in the blood. The
reason is that blood is the highest currency in the spirit realm. So and
yeah, it's definitely demonic when you hear voices telling you to cut yourself.
I would suggest getting getting some deliverance and coming to know God because he can
set you free from all that. You could have sold your soul to Satan
himself or have it embedded in your bloodline and still be set free. Satan
doesn't own your soul. He doesn't have any right to it. He has
no authority over it. God God does. And God's name is literally printed
on your DNA. So I think that settles that. I want to remind
everybody that they can follow you. We still got another segment after this,
but they can follow you over on your channel at Dorothy. They can check
out the new album Gifts from the Holy Ghost, what relatively new past few
months, right, and then your new song with is on I think her
channel, and they can follow you on Instagram as right as well, right
right, just at Dorothy, I got lucky, I got the handle that
if you are in the La Hollywood area, we will be live in La
July sixth with Jamie Kennedy, Yes, Jamie Kennedy from the Jamie Kennedy Experiment,
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At our live events. We do comedy, we do impressions, we
do serious stuff. We actually get into a lot of real hardcore information.
My wife will be doing a discussion on esoteric Hollywood, what you guys know,
I have two books on that, and I will be doing a presentation
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So I'll be covering a lot of philosophical topics as well as doing a lot
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I performed my first cringe course song live last weekend at Courtney Turner's event,
and so the crowd got trolled. They didn't know what they were gonna get,
and they actually got a live version of my Matthew McConaughey song Pure Cringe,
Pure Live, and I might actually do quite a few of those if
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It's gonna be a lot of fun. And then of course Jamie will be
Jamie Kennedy will be the headliner doing some stand up, and you can also
get on over to his merch table and meet him and get a few picks
with him. He's a great dude, very cool. Let's get back to
this notion of spiritual warfare. I think again, think about what we're told
with alien nonsense, right, aliens or these interdimensional entities. The message is
always that if you just have a world government, if you just worship us,
if you just depopulate, we'll give you solutions, We'll give you advanced
technology. This is the message of childhoods in Remember, Arthur C. Clark
was himself a confessed Chrolean, I confessed Luciferian. He had some weird predilections
in terms of the peto stuff, as Alex just talked about this week,
And in his book he actually writes that Carolin the Overlord is a freaking demon.
He's got hoofs. He looks like a giant demon. And people can't
figure this out. The soy nerds are out there like, oh it's science.
Oh they're advanced from another civilization and they're gonna bring me a coom potter
and I could just have fun forever. It means great. No, it's
a demon, dummy. It even looks like a freaking demon, and you
can't tell it's a demon. Come on, now, come on, what
is wrong with you people? It's a massive deception. Now. In scripture,
we have the story early on in Genesis. It's implicit in Genesis,
and then it's explained later on by chapter three, and then as the text
progresses we get the story of before Man's fall, there was another fall.
Did you know there was another fall before man fell? That was the Angelic
Fall, and that Angelic fall happened outside of time and space, outside of
the normal phase of human experience of time. It happened in the spiritual realm,
the aon is what the Church fathers called it. And so the angels,
because they don't exist in time like humans do, they were tested at
once and outside of time. When they fell, it was an instantaneous fall,
and angels from every one of those ranks of the nine choirs that are
listed in the various texts of Scripture fell John says that one third of the
angels fell with Satan, and so they launched into this rebellion against God and
against humankind. As Dorothy said, they hate humans. Why well, in
orthodox theology, we understand that they hate human beings because humans are made not
just in the image of God, but also to be raised, as Paul
says, above the angels. So there's a fundamental envy that Satan and his
hosts had against man because man was made in the image of the Logos.
In our view in the garden, it's man that's walking around with the logos
with the preincarnate Christ. Man is made in the image of Christ. Adam,
Paul says, Adam is after the image of Christ. In his letters.
So it's a more specific notion of being made in the image of God,
not in the image of the Trinity, but also in the image of
the Logos, the preincarnate Logos, who would then become incarnate. So a
man himself in the garden is kind of a prefiguring, a foreshadowing of the
incarnation. And thus Satan's hatred of humankind results from this envy and desire to
destroy the thing that reminds him of his creator Christ. You say, in
the beginning, was the Word or was with God? The Word was God.
All things came to be through the Logos. Christ is the creator even
of Satan. And so the angelic fall created this race of entities, you
could say angelic race. Then Dad's set on destroying humankind at first until the
birth of Christ, to destroy and persecute Israel because Israel would give birth to
the massium, and then now the Church to destroy the Church, because the
Church is the body of the Massium on earth. Read Isaiah. Isaiah is
the fifth Gospel. So I want to go back to Dorothy. Dorothy,
you were talking about this spiritual warfare when you before you were interested in these
topics, before you had your conversion experience, How did you look upon Christianity?
Did you see it as a bunch of goofballs and goobers that were duped
and believed a bunch of stupid stuff. Or was it because they didn't talk
about the reality of the spiritual warfare and the reality of what you saw in
Hollywood? Or what was it that? How did you see it before I
saw it the way the world sees it. You know, I couldn't.
I couldn't sit in church and during worship it made me cringe. You know.
The one or two times I had gone to church, I felt completely
uncomfortable, crawling out of my skin, probably because I was demonized. And
they really don't like that, you know. But when when you accept Jesus,
you give him legal authority over your life, and now you get the
veil comes off and you see the truth. And I honestly can't believe I'm
sitting here and I'm saying, yes, I read about Jesus, and I
talk to Jesus and I pray, and I know what spiritual warfare is.
I love it when the Satanists say, you know, Satanism is just about
self worship. There's no devil. Yes, there's a devil, and the
demons are spirits without bodies, you know, and those that have the eyes
to see you can see them. So you're not crazy, body of Christ.
You're not you know, you're not losing it. You've been given a
gift that can be uncomfortable to operate in sometimes, but you're you know,
we're trying to save as many souls before it's time to go. And the
last thing, one of the last things I wanted to say is no matter
what you've done, you can still get be saved and get delivered. And
alson is the same when it's nailed to the cross. I mean, Paul
was murdering Christians, right, So just remember that when you start to listen
to the flame aiming arrows of the enemy coming into your mind with the shame
and the condemnation and the guilt, the devil will lie to you in your
own voice, and the mind is the battlefield. And if you go into
praise and worship, that will break. That's one tactic. So it's absolutely
real. And here I am. I would never go back to my life
before Jesus, for all the money in the world, for all the fame,
for all the dreams, all the fruit that the devil wants to give
you is poison. It's tainted, and the demons always come to collect their
pound of flesh, you know, and everything he has is just a sad
counterfeit. And I would never My life now is just too good. Serving
God is just so fulfilling. I don't feel alone. And since everyone is
feeling so alone and isolated, and that's just an epidemic in our world,
maybe they need to try God. Because I have a sense of just being
loved and cared for and connected with the body of Christ. I will run
into people I don't even know, and we will pray together, and we
know that God orchestrated that meeting as a divine appointment that day because someone needed
it. So it's pretty miraculous and supernatural. I mean, it's serve an
awesome God. And I'm still going to play rock and roll, so it's
the best of both worlds. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know,
David, multiple people in the Old Testament we're skilled musicians, so you
know, nothing, there's nothing wrong all the talents that we have, or
talents given to us by God, you know, to use for that for
that purpose. So I'm really cool to have you on. Thank you for
giving your testimony, your journey. I think that people should understand that as
things get more insane, as we see more and more evil, that's actually
a call to repentance. It's a call to noticing that there's objective good.
Right. Evil is not a thing that exists or has being in the sense
of you know, everything that God created it exists as good. And what
evil does is that it's a privation. It's agation against the good. It's
always an act against the good. That's it. That's all they ever can
be. And so the more that we see evil in the world, it
should wake people up, especially people who are skeptics or people who don't think
that well. I mean, why is there a commonality amongst the all of
the ancient empires of the world having this anti human agenda where the empires enact
the worship of some weird you know, deity or ruler or tyrant Nimrod Babbel,
and they require human sacrifice. If there's objective evil, there's objective good.