1 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:32,400 Tonight's guest, Brian Tyrrell from Red Dirt Kryptids was featured on episode four forty 2 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,040 seven, and on that show he told us about the two dog me and 3 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:38,000 encounters he's had. Well. Not long ago, a lady contacted him through 4 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,560 Red Dirt Kryptids to ask him for help with a dog mean that's been terrorizing 5 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:46,239 her and other people who live on her property. Two weekends ago, Brian 6 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,159 went to that lady's property to look into the matter, and that's what we're 7 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:53,200 going to talk about on tonight's show. Brian, thanks so much for coming 8 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,680 back. Well, thanks for having me on. Well, you know you're 9 00:01:56,719 --> 00:02:00,519 welcome for anyone listening who missed episode four forty seven. Brian, please tell 10 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:08,039 us about yourself and Red Cryptids. Well, I am a field investigator for 11 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:15,560 different types of cryptids, dog man, sasquatch, pterodactyl type creatures. We 12 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:21,800 even investigate little people, you know, whatever you've got. We go around 13 00:02:21,879 --> 00:02:25,919 the state of Oklahoma and southern Kansas. We do field investigations, we do 14 00:02:27,039 --> 00:02:31,680 reports, We post reports online so that the general public can have access to 15 00:02:31,759 --> 00:02:37,599 them, and we do YouTube channels so that people can come along with us 16 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,719 and see what we do, and we just get out there and we get 17 00:02:40,719 --> 00:02:46,840 our boots dirty whenever people need us too, So that's us. It sounds 18 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:51,240 like you do get your boots dirty. And you just told us about the 19 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,639 scope of the investigations you do with the different types of cryptids and everything. 20 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,719 What would you say has been the strangest field investigation you've ever been on? 21 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:05,639 Oh, well, this one has definitely been. This one that we just 22 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:09,639 recently did. Yeah, that's that was definitely one of the strangest ones. 23 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,400 But I've had a lot. I've had a lot of them, and you 24 00:03:14,439 --> 00:03:17,439 know, it's kind of hard to pick and choose one. But one of 25 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:23,280 the oddest ones that I've ever done it was a sasquatch interview that I went 26 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:29,759 out and did on site. The guy claimed to have seen a pair of 27 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:35,400 sasquatch while he was sitting out in the woods at night, and he reported 28 00:03:35,439 --> 00:03:39,520 that they had footwear sort of that looked like it made was made out of 29 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,759 some type of seaweed or something, and it was very interesting story. He 30 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,439 said, it looked like seaweed that was wrapped around their feet and up onto 31 00:03:49,479 --> 00:03:53,240 their legs, like up to their calves, and he said both of them 32 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,199 had it, and the footwear looked very similar. And the reason why I 33 00:03:57,199 --> 00:04:01,639 bring that up is I have never heard another encounter that was like that one. 34 00:04:01,719 --> 00:04:08,080 I've never heard anybody report a sasquatch or any type of cryptid wearing any 35 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,879 type of footwear, So I always thought that that was kind of a one 36 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:15,240 in a million report. But that's kind of one of my weirdest ones. 37 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,319 Yeah, I can understand why you would say that you I've never heard of 38 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,560 that before. Either. Does the fact that you do few of research now, 39 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,120 I mean, you've totally come to terms with the two dog me and 40 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:31,879 encounters you've had. Yes, I was very fortunate, like I said before, 41 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:35,439 that I didn't know what I was looking at when I first had my 42 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:42,519 encounters. I don't think that I've really suffered the level of PTSD that some 43 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,839 people have after their encounters. Of course, you know, I didn't see 44 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,360 either one of the two creatures stand up and walk on its hind legs, 45 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:56,199 and that probably would have messed with my head really good. But I didn't 46 00:04:56,199 --> 00:05:00,279 see that. I just saw an incredibly large dog that looked like a wolf, 47 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,759 and honestly, I didn't know what to think for a long time, 48 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:11,319 but yes, I've come to terms with it. We actively go out to 49 00:05:11,439 --> 00:05:18,439 places that we know that they are at, and we try to This may 50 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:26,360 sound completely ignorant, but we try to encourage some type of encounters. We're 51 00:05:26,439 --> 00:05:30,800 usually very well armed, and we usually just stay in a situation where we 52 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,639 can make an exit very hastily if we need to. But if you know 53 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,680 where they're at, you can go out there and put yourself in a situation, 54 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:45,560 and you know you might end up getting some thermal imaging video or something. 55 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:48,879 I don't know if anybody's even gotten any thermal imaging video of a dog 56 00:05:48,959 --> 00:05:56,240 man yet. I wouldn't mind being the first. But yes, I'm totally 57 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,079 I would say cool with my experiences and I'm ready move forward. Well that's 58 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,199 great, that's really good news if you're in such a good place mentally, 59 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,680 though, when it comes to your encounters. Does that mean that you can 60 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:15,399 head into the woods alone now after dark without any problems? You asked the 61 00:06:15,439 --> 00:06:20,160 shark forty questions, dontch it? Yeah, I don't know alone at night. 62 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:26,279 I would definitely be really nervy if I was just, say, for 63 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:28,759 instance, if I was just going deer hunting and I was walking to my 64 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,800 stand, Yeah, I wouldn't have a problem with that. But if I 65 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:35,879 was going into an area that I knew that they were in that particular area, 66 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:42,160 probably not. No, I would definitely want somebody watching my six. 67 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:46,600 I can't say I would blame you. Don't blame you at all. What 68 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,439 would you say is a split on average between Dolgman eye witnesses and people who 69 00:06:49,439 --> 00:07:00,720 have seen sasquatch You contact you well, I would say that I get probably 70 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:09,360 eight or nine bigfoot reports as compared to one dogmen encounter. The dogmen encounters 71 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:15,959 are not as common, and they're a lot less predictable as a general rule, 72 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,120 you know your sasquatch report's going to be close to some type of water 73 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:24,079 source, a lake or a river or something. That's not the case with 74 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,399 dogmen. That can be just about anywhere. They could be on the outskirts 75 00:07:29,399 --> 00:07:32,959 of town. I took a dogmen report of a lady that lived in an 76 00:07:32,959 --> 00:07:41,439 apartment complex on the outskirts of Tulsa, and you never know where these things 77 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,360 are going to be, and it just seems like they're a lot harder to 78 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:51,959 predict than a sasquatch. If that makes any sense. Maybe it's because we 79 00:07:53,000 --> 00:08:00,240 don't have as much information about them as we do the Bigfoots. Maybe yeah, 80 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:03,959 it does seem like there's a lot less info on them out there when 81 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,360 you're in the woods investigating a case, Brian deep down, is there a 82 00:08:07,399 --> 00:08:11,959 side of you that doesn't want to find anything or have any new experiences? 83 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:22,680 I don't think so. I look forward to finding evidence, and if I'm 84 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,240 going to have an actual experience with one out in the woods, I want 85 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:31,039 it to be more or less on my terms. That's one of the reasons 86 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,600 why I always try to have an exit. But I don't know. I 87 00:08:35,639 --> 00:08:41,840 mean, you've got to be careful when you're out there that it's not it 88 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:50,159 is dangerous, and you're putting yourself in situations and your teammates where you know 89 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:56,679 something could go wrong, and if it's possible, it's it's a chance you 90 00:08:56,759 --> 00:09:01,440 just kind of got to take. But I believe that I have protection from 91 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:07,159 the Lord, and because of that, I don't have the level of fear. 92 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:13,399 I believe that a lot of people have. I've been pretty blessed thus 93 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,320 far, and I believe that the Lord will continue to watch over and protect 94 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,320 me until he's done. With me, but not everybody that believes in the 95 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,279 Lord, so I guess they're just on their own. I'm glad you do 96 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:31,360 believe. If you've had a dog me an encounter would like to speak with 97 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,679 me about it, whether in private or on this show, please go to 98 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:39,279 dog mean encounters dot com and submit a report. If you've had a bigfoot 99 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,320 sighting and would like to be a guest on one of my two bigfoot shows, 100 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,759 please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let me know a lot 101 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:50,600 of people listening to tonight show didn't get a chance to check out episode four 102 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,799 to forty seven where you came on and told us about those two dog me 103 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:58,799 and encounters you had. Would you mind giving us a cliff notes version of 104 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,279 those encounters, give a background to the people who didn't listen to that episode 105 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,320 about what you've been through already. And then after you do that, I'm 106 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,440 going to ask you to tell us about this investigation that you've been working on. 107 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:18,480 Well, both of my dogment encounters were in northwest Oklahoma, both of 108 00:10:18,519 --> 00:10:22,480 them believing or not, we're in the broad daylight. Neither one of them 109 00:10:22,799 --> 00:10:31,480 got up and walked on its back legs, but one looked very unusual. 110 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:39,720 It was considerably larger than like a black lab. It just looked very strange 111 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:43,879 in the face and in the head, and I knew that what I was 112 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:48,039 looking at was odd. I actually drove up on it my service truck, 113 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:52,399 and as I drove up to it, it was focused on something in the 114 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:56,000 bar ditch and it was in the middle of the road, and it was 115 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,480 trying to sneak up on it wiley coyote style, and it was a you 116 00:11:00,519 --> 00:11:03,840 know, hyper focused on whatever it was. So I was able to get 117 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:09,200 closer to it than you know, you would normally be able to. It 118 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,879 just does kind of show that they're what's the word psychic, but I did. 119 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,200 I kind of rolled up on it, got a really good look at 120 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,960 it. I could tell that its body was physically longer than a canine, 121 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:28,759 a normal canine. It kind of looked like a mountain lion's body. It 122 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:35,799 was just longer. It had a longer tail, but its head was definitely 123 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:41,360 canine. But it didn't look like a wolf. It looked more like a 124 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:48,320 hyena. I had a shortened muzzle, ugly thing. Ugly thing, but 125 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:54,639 it was instead of being spotted or something like like a normal hyena. It 126 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:01,519 was all jet black and its tail was really really bushy and that and it 127 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:07,679 wasn't ridiculously big. But the second one that I saw was and the second 128 00:12:07,759 --> 00:12:16,519 one was a stereotypical wolf looking dog. It kind of looked like a wolf 129 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:24,960 crossed with a German shepherd and it was very large. It was I'm six 130 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:30,799 foot tall, six ft one, and it could almost look me in the 131 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:35,679 eyes sitting down. It was it was a really big animal, really large, 132 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:41,279 and it had a really wide looking chest. The chest on it was 133 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,559 very I don't know, buff I tell people that it kind of looked like 134 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,960 a you know how some of those pit bulls are real muscled up in the 135 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:54,159 chest, but just imagine that, but like three or four times that, 136 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,200 you know, it was a really really wide chested animal. And it was 137 00:12:58,279 --> 00:13:01,919 jet black too, and it was really hairy. I mean, I could 138 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,240 even see like hair coming out of its ears. It was just really a 139 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:11,600 bushy animal. And I saw it as I was driving to it was off 140 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,879 on the side of the road, got a really good look at it. 141 00:13:13,879 --> 00:13:18,279 It ended up running away from me and I got to see it running away, 142 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:24,840 and it was a really good clear day a little bit of sunshine, 143 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:28,879 and it was quite a sighting. And I just you know, I was 144 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:33,639 completely ignorant at the time of what I was even looking at. I didn't 145 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,519 know what I was looking at. I thought I was looking at some type 146 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:45,360 of wolftoped dog that had gigantism or some kind of weird mutant disease. I 147 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,879 mean, this was before I was introduced to the internet. The Internet was 148 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:52,960 around there, but I didn't know about the Internet and not the where I 149 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:58,720 am now. So for a long time, it was a big mystery as 150 00:13:58,759 --> 00:14:01,919 to what i'd even seen. You've come a long way. You're doing field 151 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,000 research on them now, all right, Brian, Let's get to it now. 152 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:11,519 Please tell us all about your investigation. Well, this lady reached out 153 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:16,240 to me on Facebook Messenger. Apparently she found me on the internet somehow, 154 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:22,960 probably through YouTube, and she reached out to me and started telling me about 155 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:28,720 all of this stuff that she's got going on in her property. And you 156 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:33,080 know it's going to be interesting when they're like, well, I don't even 157 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,200 know where to start, you know, That's that's when you know that there's 158 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,080 a lot of stuff going on. And I was like, well, just 159 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:48,279 start from the beginning, and she said that the property that she has there, 160 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,840 she got about twenty acres down southeastern Oklahoma. I'm not gonna give out 161 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:58,080 the location or her information, but she had about twenty acres there. It's 162 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,559 all forested, there's two small ponds on it, and basically to make it 163 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,480 a nutshell, she said that the very first night, her and her son, 164 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:13,120 she's got a sixteen year old son, they moved in and they were 165 00:15:13,799 --> 00:15:16,120 sleeping. They went to bed that very first night, and they just crashed 166 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,759 on some air mattresses, you know, because nothing was unpacked. And the 167 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,960 middle of the night, all hell broke loose on the north side of the 168 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:28,240 house in the woods, and according to her, it sounded like a herd 169 00:15:28,279 --> 00:15:33,440 de elophants moving through the woods, breaking branches and making crashing noises, and 170 00:15:33,559 --> 00:15:37,519 she didn't know what to make of it. As time progressed, though, 171 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,440 she became aware of what was potentially going on. She said that she heard 172 00:15:45,039 --> 00:15:50,720 tree knocks out in the woods, and that's when she began to associate the 173 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:56,759 behavior with sasquatch. At the time, you know, everybody watches finding big 174 00:15:56,799 --> 00:16:00,080 foot stuff like that, and so she began to kind of put two and 175 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:07,120 two together, so she began putting out things like trail cameras, and she 176 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,240 began to kind of paying attention. And she's just had a smartus borg of 177 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:18,320 odd behavior that has been basically plaguing her since she bought the place in twenty 178 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:25,600 sixteen. She has creatures running across her roof. They hop up on her 179 00:16:25,679 --> 00:16:27,120 roof and they run across her roof in the middle of the night, and 180 00:16:27,159 --> 00:16:33,600 then they jump off the house and then they run off. She used to 181 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,480 have a bunch of chickens. I actually went out there and I saw her 182 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:41,519 chicken pin hasn't been used in a while because all of her chickens were stolen, 183 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:48,720 and she just decided that she wasn't going to replace them and go figure. 184 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:51,240 I mean, it doesn't make any sense to keep buying chickens when they 185 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,799 keep getting stolen, she said. Several cats and a dog that have come 186 00:16:55,879 --> 00:17:02,159 up missing. She has found footprints even right out in front of her house, 187 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:08,920 and she's found others sign all around there. She's also found evidence of 188 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:15,039 them getting into her outbuildings. The doors will be unlocked and open for where 189 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,599 something was getting inside. She's actually got several outbuildings on the place, and 190 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:25,279 it just seems like it'd be a perfect place for them to be, and 191 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:32,640 it is. It's the most perfect habitat that I've ever seen for a big 192 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:40,480 foot or a dog man because of the unusual diversity of the property. Apparently 193 00:17:40,519 --> 00:17:45,119 the people that lived there before her were very much into and let's just say 194 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:51,880 gardening, and the whole property, you know, all twenty acres. It's 195 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:56,799 basically like a big botany experiment. She could tell you all about it, 196 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:02,160 and she knows all about it because she's been re search and everything. Me 197 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:07,440 I'm just a field researcher. I don't know about all this stuff. But 198 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:10,799 you know, she's got all these different types of plants that are planted all 199 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:15,079 over this property, and even the two ponds that are out there, they've 200 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:23,759 been seeded with differing types of plant life in the actual ponds themselves in order 201 00:18:23,799 --> 00:18:30,119 to facilitate two different little habitats, I guess you would call it. But 202 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,680 they've got completely different plant life growing in each one and they're only about, 203 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:38,200 I don't know, two hundred yards apart. So whoever it was that was 204 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:48,000 there before her worked very hard to create this unusual habitat and it's very diverse. 205 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,400 There's dozens and dozens and dozens of varieties of different types of flowers and 206 00:18:53,519 --> 00:18:57,759 plants that are growing in different places all over her place. And of course 207 00:18:57,799 --> 00:19:03,920 it's heavily wood you know, to begin with. And there's even a spring 208 00:19:04,319 --> 00:19:07,160 on her place, and you know, a little screen that flows out from 209 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:14,839 the pond, and her property is perfect and it just makes sense that either 210 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:22,119 a bigfoot or a dog man would have been there, so there's probably a 211 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,720 lot of different types of food sources out there for him. She also mentioned 212 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,480 that whenever she first moved in that there was a several different types of edible 213 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:36,079 mushrooms that were growing wild on the property. But she said in the last 214 00:19:36,079 --> 00:19:41,119 couple of years, something has wiped out these mushrooms and basically eating them all 215 00:19:41,599 --> 00:19:45,839 and she hasn't been able to find any, which I thought that was more 216 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:52,880 evidence of them being there. But as far as like actual real encounters, 217 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:57,960 she's had a lot of weird stuff going on. One of her dogs got 218 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:02,279 killed. I think she said that it got hit on the road out in 219 00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:06,079 front of their house, and so they buried it. Now, this is 220 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,640 a very rocky area all southeastern Oklahoma, it's hard to find footprints down there 221 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,640 because there's so much rock everywhere. And so what they did was is they 222 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:22,839 basically laid the dog down out in the woods and started piling stones up on 223 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,839 top of this dog. And I guess a couple of days went by and 224 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,160 she went back out to kind of check on the dog, and it had 225 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:41,680 been uncovered and it had been I don't know, tour apart, and it 226 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,680 was part of it was still there, part of it was missing, and 227 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:51,680 I think the entrails were gone, which is something we hear a lot. 228 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,440 So she ended up reburying the dog again and this time put more rocks on 229 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,640 it, and after that they kind of left it alone. But it sounds 230 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,279 like they got what they wanted in the first place. So I think I've 231 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,119 covered a lot of that stuff, but it's time to get down to the 232 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,920 things that they've actually encountered on this property. The big thing, the thing 233 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,799 that that I think is probably one of the more interesting is she actually had 234 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:26,599 a class a nighttime sighting of a very large she said, nine ten foot 235 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:32,799 tall big foot in her driveway. She had pulled up and was unlocking the 236 00:21:32,839 --> 00:21:37,440 gate so she could pull in her driveway and it walked in front of her 237 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:44,559 about fifty sixty feet. And the funny part about the story is she wasn't 238 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:51,279 afraid. She said that she had this overwhelming feeling of peace or calm. 239 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:56,640 I thought that was kind of odd. A lot of people you don't tend 240 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,839 to have fear, or you know, they go into shock or something. 241 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:07,640 But she said that she interpreted as a very peaceful encounter. But they've seen 242 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:14,880 these big foot type creatures out there in the woods around her place, and 243 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:21,240 she also saw some unusual hairy creature up in the trees at the back end 244 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,680 of her property, moving through the trees like she kind of described it as 245 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:30,119 kind of like a monkey moving through the trees. And she didn't get a 246 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,559 good look at that, but she took me out to the location and she 247 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,319 showed me where it all happened. And the trees there are big enough that 248 00:22:38,519 --> 00:22:44,440 they could definitely support some fairly large animals. She says she didn't get a 249 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,880 good look at it, but she said it was harry and it was black, 250 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,160 which that could have been a dog man, that could have been a 251 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:56,079 sasquatch. It could be either or. But she has also reported that occasionally 252 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,599 she will see some kind of white haired creature moving through the woods at the 253 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,559 back of her property. Should just catch glimpses of it. She's never gotten 254 00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:10,440 me to look at that. I'm not sure which species that one is, 255 00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:22,359 either, But there are wolves that the locals down there keep reporting, not 256 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,440 to me, but apparently they're talking about it among themselves, according to her, 257 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,759 every once in a while, and if you're sitting outside at night, 258 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:36,279 or if you've got the windows open, you can hear wolves howling. And 259 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,359 the neighbors are aware of this as well, and they've talked about it, 260 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:47,799 and apparently it's it's ani quasi common knowledge down there that there are wolves out 261 00:23:47,839 --> 00:23:53,359 there in that particular area, in that mountainous area of southeastern Oklahoma. I 262 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,640 don't know about you, but I find that pretty odd. I'm not surely 263 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:03,720 sure what to think about that yet. She even claimed that at one time 264 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,680 she had a trail camera set up at one of the ponds and she actually 265 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:15,559 got a photo of what looked like a wolf coming up and drinking out of 266 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:18,960 the pond. She said it was gray in color, and apparently they've gotten 267 00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:26,200 visuals of these wolves. Now. I don't know what you know about Oklahoma, 268 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:30,759 but we're not supposed to have wolves here. We had them a long 269 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:36,640 time ago. We had it amount to extinction. We we just don't have 270 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:42,440 them. But people are also reported wolves that are red haired in color. 271 00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:51,279 Now, there was such a thing historically as a red wolf hair in Oklahoma, 272 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:56,680 and they were actually very pretty animals, but because of their hair being 273 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:03,039 red similar it's usually kind of packed, but it was kind of like Irish 274 00:25:03,039 --> 00:25:08,240 setter type hair. These animals were hunted out to extinction for their furs a 275 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:14,279 long long time ago, and so they're now. They're not extinct. They 276 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,119 have some that are still around. I think they're in zoos and stuff like 277 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,720 that. If you google red wolves, you'll be able to images of red 278 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,319 wolves. You'll you'll find some pictures of them. There's a lot of photos 279 00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:33,079 out there. But this wolf thing does not explain the encounter that her and 280 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,960 her son had by where they parked their vehicles when they go to come inside 281 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,799 the house. And that was the story that kind of disturbed me the most 282 00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:48,519 out of it. According to her, her and her son had gotten home 283 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,799 and it was dark and they'd gotten out of the car and they were fixing 284 00:25:53,839 --> 00:26:00,519 the walk up and go to the house, and this creature came out from 285 00:26:00,519 --> 00:26:08,079 behind this this very large brustpop and apparently this thing bluff charged them and was 286 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:14,599 growling at them, and I guess things happened pretty fast. According to the 287 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,880 eyewitness, she grabbed her son and pushed him behind her, which is a 288 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:27,480 standard issue maternal response, and they began trying to back up and back away 289 00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:36,559 from this thing as it was bluff charging them and this thing. It was 290 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,160 kind of funny because she said that she really only remembers the lower half of 291 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:48,839 the creature, and she said that it was about, you know, chest 292 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,799 high on her, which would have been you know, I don't know, 293 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,319 a little under five feet. She says that she remembers it being on all 294 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:03,960 fours. Her son said that it was standing upright on its hind legs as 295 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:10,559 it came out from around the brush pile. I think the sun saw it 296 00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:17,680 first and then it dropped down to all fours and then then she saw it. 297 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:23,599 But this thing basically aggressively was growling at him and moving towards them as 298 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:30,119 they backed up to the house and into the front door. And she described 299 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:40,359 this creature as being hairy but not bushy, Harry. She said the tail 300 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,680 was really bushy, but the body kind of had slick hair, and she 301 00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:51,640 said that it was red in color, and she said it was really wide 302 00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:59,079 chested. She described the arms as kind of moving, kind of funny in 303 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,359 the front, but she said it was kind of hunched over and it was 304 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:10,319 almost like it had it. It was like it was swinging its arms in 305 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,519 the front, but the hands, the front hands weren't touching the ground. 306 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,039 She said the lower half of the animal was definitely canine. It had the 307 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:26,960 reverse hawk legs, which is a classic dog man scenario. But she said 308 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,440 the tail was really bushy, but the rest of the body wasn't wide chested, 309 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,400 and she was really scared, I guess. She said she didn't get 310 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,359 a real good look at the head for some strange reason. She was focused 311 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:47,279 on the lower end of the creature, which sounds silly when you first hear 312 00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:51,000 it, but you know, I've taken a lot of reports, and it's 313 00:28:51,039 --> 00:28:53,920 not unusual, I don't think, for for people to pick one part of 314 00:28:53,920 --> 00:29:00,039 the animal with their mind and they just focus on that one portion of it. 315 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,440 It's not unusual for when people are describing creatures that they'd seen or they'd 316 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:10,319 witnessed too, you know, not remember certain parts of the body very well. 317 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,160 I had a similar experience like that where I saw a creature at night 318 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,640 one time, and I tended to be focused more on the body and looking 319 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,440 back, and I wish i'd have focused more on the head, but for 320 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,960 some strange reason, you know, when you only got seconds, you know, 321 00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:30,240 your focus is limited. So but she didn't get a good look at 322 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,799 the head. But it backed them up all the way to the house and 323 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:38,799 then they went inside the house and then they were safe, or so they 324 00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:45,519 thought. But she did agree with me that it could have caught them if 325 00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,799 it wanted to, but it didn't. It was almost like it was just 326 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:55,640 you know, bullying them into the house. Who knows what it was up 327 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:00,200 there doing. Maybe it was up there hunting her cats or her dogs or 328 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,240 something, and then she come pulling up and spoiled its hunt or something. 329 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:10,119 It's kind of hard to tell what was actually going on there, but it 330 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,640 was a pretty scary scenario. For when I had her out, when I 331 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,200 was actually doing the on site interview and I was video on it, she 332 00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:23,519 was actually pretty calm about it. But when she was telling me about it 333 00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:26,839 over the phone. I could tell by her voice and the way she was 334 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:33,960 telling me that she was pretty scared, just kind of reliving it. But 335 00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:40,839 the whole thing was really unusual because I've never heard of a red haired dog 336 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,319 man. That's a new one on me. I mean, I'm not the 337 00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:48,480 you know, the world's most authority, but I've listened to more of these 338 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:53,079 reports and stories and your average Joe, and that's the new one. I 339 00:30:53,119 --> 00:31:00,440 mean, I've heard of red sasquatch, but not red dog mane. It 340 00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:04,480 could have been the same creature, could have been a different one. But 341 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:11,279 her mother, who recently moved in with them. Her mother actually got growled 342 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:17,000 at at night by something as she was walking from her car into the house 343 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:22,880 at night, and they never saw what that was, but she described it 344 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:32,200 as a very deep, low growl, and strangely enough, as if things 345 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:37,200 weren't getting strange enough to begin with, they've got orbs out there from time 346 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,359 to time. They'll see lights moving through the trees out in the forest, 347 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,440 and they're not headlights and stuff like that. They said, they'll actually move 348 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:52,799 around. As a matter of fact, her brother actually pursued one into the 349 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,920 woods one night and ended up coming back out of the woods and he was 350 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:05,079 extremely disoriented to and I don't know they. I guess he kind of something 351 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,759 happened to him because he came out of the woods and he was a little 352 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:13,240 loopy. I guess you should say he thought he was looking at somebody walking 353 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:17,160 through the woods with a head lamp, but he ran into finding he didn't 354 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,839 find anybody, and he ended up getting disoriented. It's kind of a weird 355 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,920 story getting into some woo stuff there, But you can make out of that 356 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,240 what you will, and that depends on whether you're in the Woo house or 357 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:40,680 you're not. But they have consistent activity there. It's not seasonal. They 358 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:47,680 have activity, not all the time, but it's pretty common all year long. 359 00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:53,279 It's almost like they live in the area and they're just coming through every 360 00:32:53,279 --> 00:33:00,319 so often just to harvest food. It's kind of hard to say what they're 361 00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:05,039 doing. The thing that I find unusual is is that there's a lot of 362 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,519 people down there that are talking amongst themselves about seeing what they're describing as these 363 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:16,240 red wolves. They're seeing them cross the highway and they're seeing them running around. 364 00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:23,559 Nobody has reported seeing packs of red wolves to the best of my knowledge, 365 00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:28,440 usually when they see a red wolf, they're describing it as being a 366 00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:35,440 solo creature. But there's also other people who are seeing wolves of varying colors 367 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,559 black, gray, and you know, muckle, d Dunn, brown, 368 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:45,079 and they see them around there, and I guess the locals they all know 369 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:51,640 about these animals running around. She was even telling me about one night that 370 00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:58,640 she could hear what sounded like the wolves killing the elk down there. She 371 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,640 said that she could hear the elk pellowing, and she could hear multiple dogs 372 00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:08,440 attacking this thing. And it was a ways away, but you get down 373 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:14,199 in there in those mountains, and sound travels and echoes pretty far, but 374 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:20,320 I guess they could hear it pretty clearly, and apparently it's just common knowledge 375 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,719 down there. She was also telling me she brought up another guy who was 376 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:31,920 an eyewitness who was a retired deputy sheriff. He'll remain anonymous as well, 377 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:38,199 but he had actually seen one crossing the road a couple of miles from where 378 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:44,320 she had her encounter, and he described it as a very large red wolf 379 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,840 looking dog, but it was on all fours as it crossed the highway, 380 00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:53,960 and he saw it at night. But I'm at a loss for trying to 381 00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:00,360 explain this behavior. I've never heard of a red dog man, but she's 382 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:07,599 describing it's a dog man. It's just a highly unusual color scheme. I 383 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,280 don't know. I mean, maybe you've heard of something like that, but 384 00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:16,440 I don't know what to make of it. It's kind of uncharted territory for 385 00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:22,679 me. You know, I made a YouTube video. Hopefully if anybody else 386 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,800 has seen something like that, they'll reach out to at least one of us 387 00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:35,199 and tell us about it. But in the meantime, I'm just staying in 388 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,480 touch with her, and I'm going to go down here in a couple of 389 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,559 weeks and stop buy her place and check on them. But I live a 390 00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:50,480 little too far away for a quick response. But you know, I'm trying 391 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,159 to stay in communication with her and help her as much as I can. 392 00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:00,159 So that's where we're at on that one. You're a good man. I'm 393 00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:04,239 glad you're helping her the way you are. Well, I'd like to be 394 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,960 closer so that we could possibly, you know, respond in a timely manner 395 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,760 if she did get in a bind. I mean, I do worry about 396 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,079 her. You know, it's her and her mom and her son out there, 397 00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:20,280 and they are in a really remote location, they really are, and 398 00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:27,280 the law enforcement is a long time away. So it's kind of got the 399 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,679 makings of bad karma, if you know what I mean. Yes, sure 400 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,199 sounds like it. That's pretty rough. He said she moved in and had 401 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:42,599 an encounter the first night that she was there. Yeah, yeah, well, 402 00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:47,079 and she did say that the property had been unlived in for three years 403 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:52,360 at the time they purchased it, so the house had been for sale. 404 00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:55,119 The house and property had been for sale for a while. My guess is 405 00:36:55,519 --> 00:37:00,519 is that these creatures noticed that nobody was living in the place, and so 406 00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:04,440 they made theirselves at home, which, you know, it wouldn't be the 407 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,360 first time I've heard that kind of story. She moved in in two thousand 408 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:13,159 and sixteen, and she said that it's you know, she had activity that 409 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,880 first night, although she didn't know what to make of it at first, 410 00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:23,599 But she's had encounters and just weird random activity and noises and vocalizations off and 411 00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:28,280 on the entire time. I mean, it's not constant, it's not a 412 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,000 nightly thing, but like once every couple of weeks, you know, she'll 413 00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:37,960 probably have something happen, some little thing. She's had them get up on 414 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,360 her porch and you know, stuff like that. She had some security cameras 415 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,519 that got damaged and to try putting out trail cameras which God stolen. They 416 00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:52,840 weren't damaged or turned around like you hear about in a lot of bigfoot scenarios. 417 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:59,280 They were actually taken like she never saw them again. And she's got 418 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:09,079 motions answers out now, and she actually had another factor, and it's even 419 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:17,400 more confusing than the red wolf. Her property is kind of a funnel. 420 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,079 It's kind of like an area where there's a bottleneck, and to the north 421 00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:28,239 of her there's a great, big, huge expanse of national forest, and 422 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:35,760 to the south of her there's another expanse of national forest. But on each 423 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,679 side of her are these big areas where at one point in time they came 424 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:45,360 in and they did some logging. They never replanted those areas, and there's 425 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,599 like little farms on each side of her, to the east and to the 426 00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:53,840 west, And so if an animal was going to go from one area to 427 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,119 another, it would have to go through her property if it was going to 428 00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:04,039 stay and cover, so her place is kind of a bottlenecker what I call 429 00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:08,440 them a funnel. So that explains part of the reason why they're coming through 430 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,719 there, is if they're going to stand cover and go from point A to 431 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,119 point B, they're going to have to go to that. But the thing 432 00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:23,880 that's unusual is is she's also encountered seeing some men on her property trespassing and 433 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,480 the men, she said, well, walk through the woods behind her house. 434 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:35,320 She says that the men will be dressed all in dark brown, like 435 00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:38,480 one solid color. And at first one she told me this, I thought, 436 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,440 I know she's seeing statsquatch walking through there. She's like, no, 437 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,039 they were men. They were tall men, and they were dressed in dark 438 00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:52,719 brown. I was like, well, you mean like Carhart brown or like 439 00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:58,480 ups Guy brown. She's like ups Guy brown and I was like, you 440 00:39:58,519 --> 00:40:04,559 know, sure and pants and she's like, yes, solid uniform looking, 441 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,519 dark brown outfit. And I was like, Okay, that's weird. And 442 00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:14,960 apparently she's tried speaking to them or I think her mom even hollered at him 443 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,920 one time, and they just ignored him and kept walking. And they come 444 00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:27,119 in from the south and they criss cross across their property and I know that 445 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,000 like ups guys, they wear all brown. I know that there are certain 446 00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:37,840 types of National Forest people that are brown uniforms, and I know that occasionally 447 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:44,159 highway patrol here in Oklahoma will wear brown uniforms. It's pretty common for the 448 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:50,679 highway patrolman. But for them to not speak to her as they're walking across 449 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,320 their property is very unusual. She says. You've seen them four times just 450 00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:59,320 going from one point to the other, just making a cross, and it's 451 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,920 like right behind the ouse, and they won't talk to her. She said, 452 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,199 one time it almost sounded like they laughed whenever she hollered at him or 453 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:13,280 something. But she can't figure out why they're on the property. And I 454 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,760 don't know what to make of that. I mean, some kind of men 455 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:21,920 in black scenario or something, but I don't really see that happening. It's 456 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:27,840 just a left field, wild card factor that plays into the whole mystery of 457 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,679 the whole thing. It doesn't make any sense. I know that in Oklahoma, 458 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,679 even our part service people, you know, they'll have like brown pants, 459 00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:40,880 but they'll have like a different colored top, you know, like green 460 00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:45,559 or something. I don't know what to make of that, but it's another 461 00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:52,239 strange factor, and she's never caught those guys on trail camera. They just 462 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,599 seem to wear on, wander through and not set the trail cameras off, 463 00:41:57,559 --> 00:42:00,599 which seems to be kind of weird, but he says they're definitely human looking. 464 00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:08,800 So normally, if I was to just have an eyewitness that was alone 465 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:14,199 and living there and having all this kind of activity, I would kind of 466 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,639 be scratching my head and raising one eyebrow, if you know what I mean. 467 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,400 But it's not just her. It's it's her, her son, her 468 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:29,000 mother, her brother, and then one of their neighbors is this retired deputy 469 00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:35,079 sheriff got I mean, they're all in agreement that this is legit, you 470 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:38,639 know, and I believe her, I believe all of them. I think 471 00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:44,639 there's something weird about that property that's going on. I don't know what it 472 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,039 is. I'm suspecting that it's just an unusual habitat, but that at the 473 00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:52,599 same time, that doesn't explain these guys in the brown outfits. I mean, 474 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,360 it doesn't make any sense to me. I don't think it's her neighbors, 475 00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:00,519 you know, walking through the place. We sat down and we looked 476 00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:05,400 at it from aerial photography, and we went and walked the back fence line. 477 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,840 If it was her neighbors walking from you know, say one neighbor's house 478 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:14,079 across their property to the other, it would be a whole lot easier for 479 00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:17,159 him to just walk around her property than it would be to walk through her 480 00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:22,000 property. Because her property is very densely forested. It's got a lot of 481 00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:25,639 undergrowth, and you know, there was some poison ivy out there and just 482 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,440 thorny vine and all this other stuff. It just doesn't make sense why someone 483 00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:37,079 would walk through her property unless they were actually looking for something on her property. 484 00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:43,840 And I don't know what that would have been. You tell me, 485 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,639 I wish I could that poor lady. She's got so many strange things going 486 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:55,599 on. Holy kill. Yeah, yeah, I feel for You've got a 487 00:43:55,679 --> 00:44:00,400 feel for her. Do you do all the activities she has going on there? 488 00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:06,280 She told you if she's considered moving. You know, I didn't ask 489 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:12,320 her if she'd considered moving. She did mention on several occasions how much she 490 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,920 loves the place that she lives at, and it's just a very beautiful place. 491 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,800 You'd get a good decent look at it in my video, But it's 492 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,800 a very pretty place. It's a very lovely house that they live in. 493 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,079 It's a log cabin type home. I would like to live there. It's 494 00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:35,519 a lot nicer in my place. But yeah, she's I think she's pretty 495 00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:38,559 happy where she's at. One thing that I did think it was kind of 496 00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:44,440 funny, well, she mentioned that when she saw that big bigfoot, she 497 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,960 said it was a big male. She said she'd kind of tell by all 498 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,280 the definition in his chest and everything. But she said that, you know, 499 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,760 she felt calm and peace. She said that she almost felt like that 500 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,320 it was telling her it was going to be a okay, like she didn't 501 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:06,800 have anything to fear. And you can make of that. You can say, 502 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:12,079 well, that's some form of mind speak or what. But you don't 503 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:19,360 see a ten foot tall sasquatch at sixty feet away and get a calming feeling. 504 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,199 It doesn't work that way unless there's something else going on there. Now, 505 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,119 people that know me know that I'm not Captain Woo. I'm an evidence 506 00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:37,920 based investigator. I like evidence that I can see, touchfield record, possibly 507 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:44,320 even canagor eyes and take home with me the Woo. Although I do not 508 00:45:44,519 --> 00:45:50,039 dismiss it. I struggle with it, but I'll be the first one I 509 00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:52,239 met. There's there's a lot of stuff that I don't know, So saying 510 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:59,320 that it's that it's ridiculous is it would be ridiculous to discount it completely. 511 00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:04,679 But for her to have walk away from that scenario, I think that there 512 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,199 might have been some form of mind speak or some kind of communication going on 513 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,440 there between her and that creature. Maybe it was just telling her that she 514 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:20,000 didn't have anything to worry about from it. But she has got two different 515 00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:23,519 creatures out there. Apparently she's got the sasquatch out there, and then she's 516 00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:29,679 got this red creature out there. And I don't think that the red creature 517 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:37,360 wants to get her, but I think it's definitely more aggressive. And I 518 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:43,079 think she needs to be very careful when it comes to that red creature out 519 00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:47,119 there, because I wouldn't put it past this creature to harm her or her 520 00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:52,159 mom or her son. I mean, it did have the opportunity, it 521 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:57,039 didn't take it that time. But I think if you put yourself in the 522 00:46:57,079 --> 00:47:02,719 wrongs, if she put herself accidentally in a wrong situation, it could go 523 00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:08,800 poorly for I think, But I don't know, I'm not psychic. I 524 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,519 can't. I can't really tell what's It's a mystery, you know, and 525 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:20,960 they usually end up staying mysteries. But I'm I don't know. Her place 526 00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:29,320 is like some kind of weird nexus for unusual behavior. Yeah, sure sounds 527 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:34,360 like it. This is really no difference from throwing deck chairs off the Titanic. 528 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:39,079 But do you happen to know if she stays inside after dark? Yes, 529 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:45,239 for the most part, she knows about a lot about what's going on 530 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,840 outside because she likes to keep the windows open at night, you know, 531 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,880 with the having a breeze. She didn't mention that, and occasionally she'll hear 532 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:59,000 things going on outside and some of her you know, she's got like a 533 00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:02,119 second story up there, and I think that's where she said the bedroom was. 534 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,400 But you know, she's probably not too terribly concerned about leaving the window 535 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,840 open as long as the screen is there in the middle of the night. 536 00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:15,840 But you know, when they do go outside, you know, they're very 537 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,480 cautious. They're looking around, and they're trying to be aware of their surroundings. 538 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:28,039 Even her mother is going around armed. Now I thought that was interesting. 539 00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:32,719 They're taking it seriously. I mean they're armed, pretty well armed too, 540 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,679 even by my standards, and I think they're taking it very seriously. 541 00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:46,599 I think they're aware of it. I was concerned about them taking it seriously 542 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,639 and so I you know, I tried to ease them into the reality, 543 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,360 and I realized very quickly that they were already at terms with it. You 544 00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:01,119 know, they knew there was a danger. So they're is about as informed 545 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:07,079 and educated on the matter as I think they can be. They're prepared. 546 00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:10,880 I wouldn't want to be the creature that tries to break into their house. 547 00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:16,119 I will put it that way, because, like I said, they're pretty 548 00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:23,960 well armed. But yes, they're aware and they're being safe, especially at 549 00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:30,119 night. They're doing it during the daytime. They've seen things during the daytime. 550 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,760 Well, I'm sure they have. Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. 551 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,599 If you'd like to be able to listen to the show without ads and have 552 00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:42,000 full access to bonus content, that's an option. To find out how, 553 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:49,159 please go to Dogman Encounters dot com Forward Slash podcast. Did she call you 554 00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:52,360 out there in hopes of you being able to rid her property of Dogman and 555 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,119 Sasquatch or just to get some answers. Do you know, well, I 556 00:49:57,159 --> 00:50:02,920 think she originally reached out to me just to let me know what was going 557 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:09,639 on. I think she wanted confirmation. I'm not a you know which doctor. 558 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,480 I can't come out there and dance around her front yard and keep them 559 00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:17,119 from coming out. I mean I can make recommendations, which I normally do 560 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,800 and I did a lot of times. What we'll do is when me and 561 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,960 the team go out, we will go out. We will you know, 562 00:50:25,039 --> 00:50:30,199 do an investigation interview, ask a bunch of questions. Then we go home 563 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:36,199 and we'll usually have like a phone conference and we'll table a bunch more than 564 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,400 usually we'll come back with more questions, and then we'll make our recommendations. 565 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:47,039 And we did that with her, and we've had a list of recommendations, 566 00:50:47,159 --> 00:50:52,159 you know, some of the standard issue stuff like more lighting and stuff like 567 00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:59,599 that. But she's pretty well prepared. I mean, she's got some projects 568 00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:07,280 that she's wanting to work on with some better quality surveillance type stuff. But 569 00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:14,760 everything costs money anymore, and you know, it's just kind of one of 570 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,679 those things that they're going to have to work on it as time goes on. 571 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:25,599 I don't think that they're in terrible danger, but I think that they're 572 00:51:25,599 --> 00:51:34,920 at a point where they need to be aware and respectful because apparently, according 573 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,360 to these creatures, they're not the only residence on the property. There's more 574 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:45,039 than just her that live there, and they've done a real good job of 575 00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:51,360 letting her know. So there's she's pretty respectful of everything's going on down there, 576 00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:53,320 and for what it's worth, she said, in peace with it. 577 00:51:53,559 --> 00:52:00,760 I don't think that she really has a problem with the sasquatch being out there 578 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,320 and coming around. I don't think she likes her chickens but disappearing and her 579 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,760 dogs and cats coming up missing, that does irritator, But as far as 580 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:14,599 like, she's kind of got a live and let live philosophy about it. 581 00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:17,960 You know, she understands that they have to eat. But I don't think 582 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,639 that she's angry at him or bitter towards them. But I think she does 583 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:30,760 have a pretty serious concern when it comes to this red canine creature that they 584 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,079 had to encounter with. That's a completely different scenario, and I think she 585 00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:39,960 has a different outlook on that thing. I can understand why she would, 586 00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:45,480 yeah, bluff charged her and her son after all. And speaking of that, 587 00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:47,639 when she and her son were bluff charged, did she ever tell you 588 00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:52,800 how close they were to the house. Well, she kind of re enacted 589 00:52:52,880 --> 00:53:00,400 it for us in the video. I would say she was probably. They 590 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:07,719 usually parked their cars like twenty thirty yards from the front door, and there's 591 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:13,440 a stone walkway that goes up to the front and it happened right in there. 592 00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:16,119 I want to say, you know, it came around the brush pile 593 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:23,679 at thirty five forty yards and back them up. It didn't really chase them 594 00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:29,239 that far. It came out from behind the brush pile, and I would 595 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:36,039 say it probably judging by her reenact, and it it moved towards them a 596 00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:40,360 total of about ten feet and then it kind of stopped. I don't think 597 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:45,480 it pursued them all the way up to the front door. I think it 598 00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:51,199 just it moved forward enough to get them moving backwards and then it stopped. 599 00:53:52,599 --> 00:54:00,760 So I think it strategically did just enough and exposed itself just enough to get 600 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:06,440 them to do what he wanted them to do. So, yeah, it 601 00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:10,800 was really interesting scenario. And like I've said several times before, when they 602 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,440 want to get a point across their masters at that Yeah, they are. 603 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:22,639 For anyone listening who would like to watch the video on the Red Crypted YouTube 604 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,239 channel that's focusing on the investigation at that lady's property. I'm going to post 605 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,599 a link to it in the description for tonight chill. I'm gonna make it 606 00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:34,280 really easy to find. But having said that, it's about time for us 607 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,679 to get out of here. But before we do, do you have any 608 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:43,800 clothes in comments you'd like to share? Yeah, I'm just a field investigator. 609 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,159 I don't always have all the answers. I don't think anybody does. 610 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,280 I would say beware of anybody that claims to have all the answers in this 611 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:58,880 world. But we go out and we investigate, and we'd look around. 612 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,880 The best thing we can do for people is listen. A lot of people 613 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,000 that encounter these things, they don't have anybody to talk to, they don't 614 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,400 know where to turn. The best thing I can do is tell them they're 615 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,320 not crazy and then offer a few suggestions. Sometimes I can offer some legitimate 616 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:20,400 advice about how to keep them away from the house and stuff like that. 617 00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:27,599 But the main thing is it's just Sharon wants you know if you've got something 618 00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:31,880 going on at your property. You've probably got other people in your area that 619 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:37,760 need to know what's going on. Not everybody is comfortable with talking to their 620 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:43,039 poor neighbors about this kind of stuff. It gets really awkward. But I 621 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:45,239 think that when you do have encounters like this, I think it's kind of 622 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:52,760 like our civic duty to inform people that there's something going on in that particular 623 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,800 area. She did that, and we went out, we talked to her, 624 00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:01,599 met some nice people, and hopefully we helped a little bit. But 625 00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:06,880 I wish I had better, more solid answers for her and her family. 626 00:56:07,559 --> 00:56:09,880 A lot of times it's just having somebody to run this stuff by it. 627 00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:16,239 I think it helps. And you know, I've always enjoyed listening to these 628 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:22,199 podcasts and these YouTube shows and stuff, and you know, you can always 629 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,400 learn a little bit from each one if you listen good enough, and hopefully, 630 00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:30,039 you know, we'll continue learning and maybe in the future, you know, 631 00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:32,199 if we all open up a little bit and we all share what we 632 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,039 know, maybe we'll have some better clearer picture of what's really going on and 633 00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:42,199 maybe some solid answers. Brian, I hope you never stopped doing what you 634 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,039 do because you're one of the good ones in thank goodness, you're out there 635 00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:49,679 doing what you do well. I appreciate you having me on. I always 636 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,039 enjoy visiting with you, and there's a lot to be learned on your channel, 637 00:56:54,280 --> 00:57:00,719 and everybody's encounter matters. I think what you're doing is a good thing 638 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,880 of giving people an opportunity to talk well. Thanks for seeing that, but 639 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,239 I wouldn't have it any of the way. But thanks against so much for 640 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,079 your time and have a great night.