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All right, now, Bill hunting
him the great American. As you know,

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I was off today until a few
hours ago when the Reds game was

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postponed scheduled to start at four h
five pm today in Philadelphia after that debacle

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from yesterday. And we'll see about
the weather. One look at the weather

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app in Philadelphia doesn't look real good
promising for that either, but we'll see

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what happens. We can't control the
weather. Coming up later as Kevin Jackson

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at the Kevin Jackson Network dot com. But until then, Steve Raleigh of

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WCPO, the chief meteorologists, welcome
again in the Bill Cunningham Show. And

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Steve may I make an opening statement. Sure of course you can't Bill at

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your show. Thank you. Many
years ago, many many years ago,

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maybe a decade or more, I
had a good relationship with Tim Headrock.

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Tim Headrick, he would call in
as the private citizen. He was the

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chief meteorologist at Channel twelve, one
of your competitors, but also perceived as

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the top weather voice in town.
I'm now going to designate Steve Raleigh and

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the Tim Headrick Award as the top
meteorologist in town because when things are iffy

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yesterday I tuned into you, and
I listened, and I watched and I

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paid attention. I don't know how
you did it for three to four hours,

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but you did so picking up the
pieces of what happened. Tell the

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American people this Wednesday afternoon, what
happened yesterday between the hours of like three

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pm and ten pm, and what's
been the fall out of vent I understand

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tornaders did touchdown. Please explain this
to Tony Bender and the American people.

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Well, first, I think we
need to acknowledge that very nice designation because

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Tim was not only a great meteorologist, but a friend of mine and he

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was a really great guy, and
he was Cincinnati weather and we miss him.

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And he just celebrated his heavenly birthday
just the day before yesterday. So

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that's very nice for you to say
that. Now onto the Yeah, it

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was I guess the perfect way to
say it. It was the perfect storm

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because we had all the right ingredients
to have what we had. Yet yesterday

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we had four confirmed tornadoes. We
ended up having I think it was six

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to eight tornado warnings, and then
we probably had a dozen severe thunderstorm warnings.

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And the reason why it all happened
of course, is because of the

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situation of just having all of the
ingredients and then a cold front move into

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the area and it triggered all of
what needed to go on to create this

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kind of iconic day. Let me
share with you a comment that your predecessor

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in title, Tim Hendrick said about
fifteen years ago. And I said,

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how come the Midwest has so many
tornadoes? They exist in other places,

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but nonetheless we have a large number. And he said, off the Mexican

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Plateau, which is elevated, comes
to hot air from Canada, and the

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North comes to cold air on one
side of the rocky mountains on the other

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side of the Alleghanies. It's like
the borders of this weather system as the

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hot air comes off the Mexican Plateau, so it happens to arrive in flat

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territory because of the glaciers of fourteen
to fifteen thousand years ago. The glaciers

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scraped lots of the Midwest clean of
any impediments. So tornadoes don't like high

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mountains, they like flat areas,
they like hot air, they like cold

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air, they like the bumpers left
and right. And so this part of

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the world, especially west of us, have a disproportioned number of tornadoes because

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of that condition, and then the
glacier. You might recall fifteen thousand years

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ago, Steve Raleigh, if you'd
look straight up, we were under one

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to two miles of solid ice.
Look up two miles. There's nothing but

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ice all the way straight up,
and it receded to create the Great Lakes.

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Am I on the right mark as
to why we have tornadoes? Well,

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yeah, and so have a great
day. Very good bill. You

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don't need me anymore, that's it. Yeah, No, we are the

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number one country in the world for
tornadoes because of that very reason, because

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of all that cold air that comes
out of Canada and sweeps into the middle

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of the nation. If you think
of the traditional tornado alley and where it

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is across Oklahoma and Kansas and up
through Iowa and that whole area through the

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Dakotas. You also have that warm
air coming in off of the Gulf of

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Mexica, Mexico, and at this
time of the year, of course they

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meet in the middle of the nation. Here's the interesting fact though, something

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that actually I was going to put
on the air tonight so you get to

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hear it first, and that is
this year alone, Ohio has more tornadoes

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and the Midwest in general than anywhere
in the Tornado Alley. We've always been

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known as a mini tornado alley.
However, a lot of people are surmising

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at this point, and there's a
lot of scientists and experts who are now

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doing studies to say, because the
things have changed in our climate, that

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it might have started to shift eastward
because over the course of the last several

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to decades, as you know,
we have seen more and more severe weather

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outbreaks across the area. I was
talking to the anchors last night and I

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was saying, it's my anecdotal evidence, and this is something I want to

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study, and that is every ten
years, every decade, we have a

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major tornado outbreak in this area.
And so while yesterday was certainly a notable

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event, we'll see to the level
at which it will match for this decade

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because we haven't had an outbreak yet
in this ten year period. I'm interested

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to see what the National Weather Service
has to say, especially over the confirmed

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tornado in West Union over in Adams
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be a rather strong, strong meteorological
signature of a tornado. Where did the

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four tornadoes strike at this point subject
to confirmation. There might be others,

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but we're approximately did the Ford tornadoes
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northern Kentucky, in Adams County,
and in the tip top of the panhandle

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of Brown County. So those will
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Service look at. The other tornado
warnings that we had, while they were

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possible, I don't know that they
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alone unless other evidence comes from first
responders to say we think we had one,

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and then they'll add that to the
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two, F three, F four
What were They don't know yet, won't

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know until they make that survey.
And the terminology now is EF as opposed

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to the just the vegeta scale.
It used to be just Fugeta. Ted

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Pageta developed this scale, but they
changed it because we needed more determination for

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a tornado as opposed to twisting winds
or straight line wins, so several years

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ago they changed it, so it's
an enhanced Fageta scale. So that's where

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EF comes from. So the technical
term now is EF one and so forth

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and so on. So what was
the guy's name Fred, was it Fred

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Fergito? Is that him? No? No? Fred Ted Ted Ted Forjeta

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FuG j I t a doctor Ted
Fajeta. You must feel angry about this.

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He went from an F one to
EF I mean, yeah, right,

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he got put in second place.
Now he's the guy who developed the

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scale. Right, the heck with
it? Now, what's done with meteorology?

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I'm going to be a biologist now, yeah, go ahead. Well,

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what do you think about the tony
benders of this world who say,

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you know what, because of Steve
Raleigh, the schools were let out at

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noon. Schools in northern Kentucky some
were let out eleven thirty am and then

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some of twelve thirty, some at
two, some at one whatever. And

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that than hundreds of thousands of parents
were put out because they had to pick

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up their kids and bad stuff didn't
happen to like five, six, seven,

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eight pm. And because of because
of Steve Raleigh and others, that

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all these parents had their lives disrupted. He's angry of picking up his kids

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in school and head leave work,
get there at noon and it didn't happen

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for five hours later. What do
you say to the Tony Benners of this

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world will say that was much ado
about nothing. Well, first off,

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I'll say this, I love Tony. I'm sure he didn't say anything derogatory

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toward yours truly. But nevertheless,
with that said, Waked actually on a

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serious note, talked about that yesterday. I'm sitting there doing my thing in

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the morning, and I was there, I don't know, about seven thirty

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eight o'clock yesterday morning, and we
got up to about nine nine thirty and

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the anchors came out to do a
couple of things, and I heard them

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say that they're closing schools. I
said, why are they closing schools?

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Well, that's just what they're doing, I guess because of the severe weather.

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Now, the problem with that idea
is, I don't think there was

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any of us that were all that
greatly concerned at the time period of they

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felt. Let me put it this
way, I find it interesting that superintendents

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did make that call. Now,
I'm sure there's some pretty good reasons,

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and they would come up and tell
me why, and I'd like to have

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a discussion about that. But the
reality of the situation is is being weather

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aware is what always is the most
important thing, and people don't take it

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for that. You know, whether
it's watching myself or any one of the

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folks in town. If you know
whether it's five, twelve or nineteen that

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happen to be your favorites. I
get that, but none of us would

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say you closed down and just stop
life. The key is, and you

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know it's become a hashtag. It's
weather aware. Hashtag weather aware. We

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all have the apps on our phone
for weather. Hopefully you have Channel Nights,

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but I got to pay the mortgage. But the reality is is that

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that's what you should be aware of, and then that way, if things

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are developing, then you're aware that
you need to make adjustments. I think

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the difficulty, truly, as we
were discussing yesterday, is is this is

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a very difficult job for the superintendent
because they've got to make a call before

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things happen. They are kind of
the school forecasters, and so they felt

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that that was a safer prospect of
doing than the chance of something breaking out

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at around that two or three time
frame. I have to say, I

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don't think we personally at Channel nine
because Brandon was on before me and Jennifer

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before that anything was going to happen
probably before three or four o'clock. Now,

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if that's close enough for some schools, I could get that. But

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I mean, this was a wholesale
shutdown, like it was a big snow

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event. It was going to happen. And I'm not really sure why that

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is, except to say, as
I think about it, there's probably a

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lot of snow days in the pocket
of a lot of school systems because we

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only had what seven seven eight inches
of snow, so they probably didn't use

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them so they could afford to do
it without giving a thing by the government.

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I kind of liked it, Steve
Raleigh, because I had a dental

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appointment. I went up seventy one
in Mason. It was wonderful, sow

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Tara Harden. I went up there
about fifteen minutes. In fact, I

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called ahead to say, hey,
are you still opening? Because oh hell's

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breaking loose cats and dogs living together. I saw birds flying upside down past

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my window. I said, something's
going on. The dead were coming out

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of grades over a gate to Heaven
Cemetery. But getting back to your original

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point, Homeland Security, thank you
for the Ghostbusters reference. Am you're looking

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at this? I'm gonna what the
hell's going on? And I thought,

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I started praying and I went in
the basement, didn't come out to this

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morning about seven am minutes. But
a Homeland Security told Kenton County to shut

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down the schools. I'm talking to
Homeland Security. According to Rob Sanders,

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got a call from a Homeland Security
shut down the schools. And so it's

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like, are you kidding me?
Homeland Security said to shut down the schools.

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So I tell that Tony Bender type
the skeptics, the Saint Thomas's of

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our world, skeptics that somehow imagine
if that hurricane that hit Indiana hit downtown

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Covington or downtown Newport now and you
can't with specificity to say it's going to

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go sixty miles west of Covington,
all right, imagine that hitting downtown Covington.

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What would have happened? Yeah,
well, you know, on a

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real serious note, getting aside,
we had that tornado that was very close

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to the border of Cincinnati and hit
somewhere or shouldn't say tornado warning, and

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so as a result there we had
a lot of reports of folks who saw

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spinning cloud moving across that area.
So you're right, one of these days

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Unfortunately, on a very sad note, we will end up having some tornado

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hit a major more metropolitan area or
major larger city, and that is always

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the scary part of this whole proposition. So far in the last twenty four

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hours that has not happened. We
haven't had any confirmation of anywhere that wasn't

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very rural, so hopefully it was
more just a set of trees. And

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I apologized to anybody who may have
been glanced by any of these strong winds

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as well. It's not to be
taken lightly, but you're right, one

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of these days this will happen,
so safety. And here's the bottom line,

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Bill. I think it was a
guy, doctor Neil Frank. Do

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you remember him at all? Why, that's right. He used to talk

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to Dan rather about this and I
was very lucky over the course of about

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fifteen years or so to be a
part of a weather conference where I sat

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right next to him to try and
soak in as much knowledge as I possibly

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can, and his one thing that
he lives by that I do to this

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day. And sometimes it's rankled TV
executives, other people, certainly the populace.

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Because of this. You always forecast
on the side of least regret.

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So talking about the schools, it's
a good move to shut them down.

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I know it was an inconvenience,
but this one day that we don't shut

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him down and it hits the school
why didn't you shut the schools down?

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So you know, with all of
that, you can't win. Yeah,

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the side you always forecast on the
side of least regret. I'll say this.

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When I practiced law more actively,
a murder trial was a big event.

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When you're in the talk radio business, the presidential election is a big

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event. And when I watched the
four main TV stations, everyone's on the

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air three to four hours. Who
makes the call? Is it you,

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Tanya or Rourke? Who makes the
call that Steve Riley's on set for three

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to four hours without commercials? Who
makes that call? Well, first off,

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we always bow to Tanya as she
is the queen of Channel nine.

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So usually after I finished washing her
vehicle, I'll then myself make the call

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for going on live. And then
we had parameters in all honesty of how

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we handle this. If it's a
severe thunderstorm warning, we go on,

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say what we have to say and
get off. Well, we won't stay

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on for that. If there's a
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could produce a tornado at any moment, then we stay on for the length

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of the tornado warning thirty to forty
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and at that point we assess if
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Now, yesterday was like those rare
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about finished, oh look there's another
one. There's a severe thunderstorm. Wait

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a minute, there's a tornado warning. So yesterday, and I want to

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pay you a nice compliment too,
to meteorologist Brandon Spinner. He did a

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great job partnering me with me yesterday, and because there were two of us

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on and having two separate venues,
both the Weather Center and the Chroma key

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Board, we were able to stay
on top of these storms because I'll tell

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you, you know, there was
a couple of times, you know,

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Brandon's talking about something and I said, oh, there it is a tornado,

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or he said, hey, Steve, look behind you. The bar

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said new polygon. You know that
kind of thing. So, yeah,

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it was a busy, busy day. Well, I'm going to designate you

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the doctor Neil Frank and the Tim
Hendrick of the Tri State did a good

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job. I know, Tony Bender
and the skeptics might say it was much

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ado about nothing. But if that
tornado had struck downtown Covington or Xenia again,

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had had Saint Gertrude's and Madera,
or took out Mason, that would

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have been a different story. East
regret. You can be you can be

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wrong a hundred times in doing too
much, But if you do too little

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and a tornado strikes downtown Cincinnati with
teeth, hair and I everywhere, then

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then you're not the Tim Hendrick anymore
of the Tri State. Steve Rolly be

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looking for work somewhere. So it's
I love that. I love your term

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least regret. Yeah, you know, I when when he told me that,

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I never forgot it, because it's
the economy of words that say so

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much right, and so you're you're
apt in saying that it's it. It

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is the way to go. And
I wish more people would take that tack,

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and sometimes they don't, and that's
where everybody gets in trouble. So

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I think if you live by that, it's much better to get in trouble

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by doing too much than too little. Absolutely, Steve Rolly, get my

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best at Tanya or she's got that
Bentley out back, that light blue Bentley

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convertible. You'll be working on the
tires later. This beautiful, beautiful,

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but that's you know, that's just
Wednesday's car. And listen, I do

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have to run. I got to
get to that before I get into work.

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I understand. Steve Raley. Good
job and thank you very much.

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Thank you. Thanks us at Bentley
for every day of the week with white

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interior and mink around the steering wheel. It's beautiful, Steve Raleigh, thank

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you very much. Thank you.
I'll see he's got to get back on

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air. Today's going to be a
little different. It's gonna be a little

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cold, but no catastrophe for the
critics and for those that are in the

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stands criticizing the doer of deeds.
Imagine if that tornado would hit downtown Covington,

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or Cincinnati or downtown Batavia, things
would have been different. Let's continue

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with more. Bill Cunningham, News
Radio seven hundred WLW. I feel the

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brotherly love. The fall is per
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Natty Batters. Is the wedge take
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Get ready for nine full action packed
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