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Jeff Grubb. Whit me is Mike Manati in today's episode. So shit leaked
and everyone's freaking out. That's it. That's what's happened this week. I
don't know. I mean, it's Christmas. Even know what happens in my
bathroom incontinence it comes for us all. Mikey, how are you doing?
It's good. I'm just I've been too busy. But I'm just about done
with that. I got through most of my obligations. I still have the
wrap presence. I honestly Christmas busy. I'm looking forward to I've just been
busy, true, kind of getting like a bunch of stuff done before the
break is here, and that is happening. So that's fine. I'm looking
forward to doing some Christmasy stuff. But how are you doing? I'm sure
you know, having kids everything, Look Christmas time, you're more busy than
I am. Yeah, it's busy. I was busy all evening after a
voicemail, dump truck and the whole time, Immy is like, can you
help me wrap my presence for Addie and Mama and a grandma and all this
stuff, and now oh no, yeah, how dare you? How dare
you speak to me? But no, we'll get that done probably tomorrow.
I just did have time, but she's like really ready to go, and
I'm like, yes, I will have more time starting tomorrow. I promise
we'll get into that. But Steph was in the basement like wrapping presence while
I was doing other stuff around the house all evening, So it's happening over
here. But yeah, very busy. We still have a Peku Niku doll
that Grandma made because we couldn't find that we need to get before Christmas.
We have to actually get that from the video game Peaku Niku, which is
kind of a like a little story telling platforming game from Devolver Digital. It's
it's it's pretty popular, but Addie loves it. She really mostly because Pekuniku
is a little red guy. He's a meep. He's got little beady black
eyes and no nos, so that makes him a meep and so she loves
him a lot. So she's asking for two things, Pakunku and astrobot,
and I am not a but I cannot find astrobot. There's a neddroid of
it. Yeah, I can get one for like one hundred and fifty dollars
that will get delivered sometime in January. I'm like, okay, well,
I mean listen maybe, but she's got a birthday in January. But we're
trying to find something for Christmas. It's been it's been troublesome. I even
like reached out to Sony and they're like, listen, we'll try, but
we probably don't have anything. I'm like, I understand it's a hail Mary,
but we'll see. Yeah, so yes, busy Mike. I don't
know. I don't know, though. I'm pretty excited though, I like.
I like Christmas a whole bunch, very very much. Looking forward to
watching some movies, going to the hulbaci things like that. How about you,
No, yeah, exactly, just uh, you know, doing the
family gatherings, giving gifts, getting gifts, all the generic stuff. Uh,
there's a party with friends on on Saturday and put yourself a family.
I got a lot going on. My one friend was like, we might
watch Ferrari on Christmas evening, and for some reason, I'm like, that's
what I'm looking forward to. That sounds great, honestly, like, yeah,
if I want to see for We've done that a few times. We
tried to when we can't go see a movie on Christmas night. I like
that. The last one one year, we wanted to all go see that.
That first, Uh, what's that boord? Jumanji reboots that's adely popular?
Sold out, so we all had to go and see what the forgetting
the names of everything? What's the acapella movie? A cappella series? But
the girl singing acapella songs? I'm sorry, Mike, I sing on the
Fox. Oh you have to know what I'm talking about. She has the
cups. Oh yeah, sure, Okay. I never saw those movies,
so I didn't know she's saying a cappella. I never saw them either.
But then we all went and saw Pitch Perfect three. Okay, that's even
better. I didn't know it was the third one because they're running out ideas
also a spy thriller. Well, really that's fun. It was really just
like cars too. Cars ran out of ideas. Actually, cars ran out
of ideas. A little bit faster than than Pitch Perfect. You know what
basically was Cars too, because the comedic character was like more important. It
was heavily involved in the spy stuff actually incredibly, but even that was still
fun. We saw I Saw Life Aquadic way back when that came out,
and that was like for something you did you Christmas movie to me? Of
course? Yeah, did you ever get around to watching what was the first
movie now that Jumanji? Yeah? Jumanji. Yeah, that's a good movie,
that's all that. Yeah, it's probably I watched it, but I
don't remember anything about it, so that probably says something. The first one
though, or you know, the reboot really really good. Yeah, that
was I remember everyone was shocked up. That was like when the Rock was
at the height of its his powers and everybody was like, yeah, has
the ability to make relevant franchises strong again. Granted, I think what really
helped that movie was it was written well and actually it's a really good,
well written movie. Yes exactly. Yeah, Rock was dating it for sure.
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Mike Big stories this week, I mean it was mostly the leak out of
Insomniac. We talked about it on Tuesday. At this point, I guess
the thing the topic of conversation as far as I could tell on Twitter today
and like different circles on the YouTube and stuff, is that, hey,
these PlayStation games seem pretty expensive to make, and they're getting more expensive and
they're taking longer, and it's anversation we've been having on our shows for a
very long time, like we've like known this. But I think people seeing
that three hundred and fifteen dollars three hundred and fifteen million dollar number for Spider
Man two, which is going to have a multiplayer mode that hasn't come out
yet and that's probably a big part of that budget, or at least part
of the budget, and then three hundred and eighty five million dollars for Spider
Man three. Uh, this has people wondering, Hey, WHOA, this
doesn't necessarily seem sustainable or at the very least it seems like it's going to
get harder and harder to keep making these games right, And I think that
there was even one document which mentioned something like, hey, this game is
costing three Spider Man two is costing three times as much as the last one.
Does that appear on the screen? Do people really see that? It's
really concerning? Jeff, I think you know, I'm not usually a pessimistic
person about the future of the gaming industry, but with things like the layoffs
in this, there's a lot that I am pretty concerned about. Why is
this ballooning as rapidly and as ridiculously as it is. I have some of
it as things like inflation, inflation and cost of living in places like on
the West Coast where these people live, Like we understand the factors. That
doesn't change the concerns though, right Like we could say, oh, well,
this is just how it is, but the companies aren't going to look
at it this way. They're going to look at it like this is something
we need do need to do something about, and that leads them to stuff
like live service games trying to find alternate means to make more money to either
offset those costs or to deal with these costs. Companies don't just let costs
sit there forever. They especially if they keep going up, they try to
find new ways to deal with them and to eliminate them and mitigate them.
So something's going to change. It's just, yeah, what is it?
I answer the big question, and that pessimism, I definitely I share that.
I'm like not pessimistic. Like some people will see this and you'll see
people respond like, oh, this is going to lead to another industry wide
crash like during the Atari generation. It's like, that's just not going to
happen. Just look at what happens on Steam, look at mobile, look
at all like I mean, honestly, console gaming's very healthy, Nintendos to
doing just fine, Like there's not gonna be some industry wide crash, but
at the very top end they might have a reckoning a little bit. I
don't know, what do you think my top end you means like Sony and
Microsoft, because that's the Triple A gaming, That is what I mean.
Triple A. Yeah, right, how sustainable is that? And I don't
know, you look at next year and again we talked as before, how
is it. We really have no idea what our Microsoft and Sony's big exclusives
for next year. Sony has yeah, fop Asy seven rebirth a third party
exclusive, and Microsoft probably has the whole blay. They haven't really confirmed that,
so, right, it's just I remember, I mean gos So,
I just remember how much shit everybody given in the town sixty four. It's
like, oh, here's like our one Nintendo game like every couple of months
or a few months, right, that would be a bounty. Yeah for
real, yes, right, it would be insane. So it's really concerning,
And I don't know if it's a matter of like, what's the solution.
Is it pulling back as it's saying, hey, maybe we have to
make small games games, or you know, we have to be okay with
games that cost fifty million dollars or you're twenty million dollars, we have to
make a lot more of those. Or is it sort of shoring up and
just committing to it, opening more studios, finding some efficient, more efficient
ways to make these big games. It can't keep going on like this.
Something has to change, right, right. I think the scary thing,
and we say this most of the time when we have conversations along these lines,
is no one seems to really know what the solution is, at least
for these kinds of games that we're talking about. The real solution is that
all kinds of other games are being made and are successful along all kinds of
budgetary scales. Maybe not the mid budget that though. You know, we
talked about all the things that like what would have been classically TACHEDQ, Well
that doesn't work anymore. Sure doesn't work from like big publishers. But you're
getting bigger and bigger budget games from the indie scene again on Steam and more
more and more on console, and it might be like the reality is video
gaming is going to have a permanent change where the big publishers aren't going to
be responsible for most of the games that we are we're thinking about each year
right now. That feels very strange because it's just such the default. It's
where we've been for decades. And you know, go back to that letter
from Phil Spencer to UH to like internally about Hey, these publishers are not
finding a way to like build up an attraction to them as a brand.
They are not They are not becoming Disney, They're not even becoming like Universal.
They are just that, Hey, Ubisoft puts out a Ubi Soft game,
and I don't care that it's a Ubi Soft game. Maybe I care
it's a far Cry game. But but they just haven't found a way to
build up that affinity, and that is going to hurt them because now they're
competing against all of these indie games, all all of these budget games and
like stuff like Lethal Company. That's why I think that Seka is actually making
one the smarter kind of bids here right wild their retro revival, because it
is about that brand a bit, and just people do still like that's a
good plan, and it's like, hey, here's a way we can make
a bunch of games that aren't going to be you know, something are going
to be more expensive like a jet set radio, but at Shanobe a golden
axe that's not going to be that expensive, and they're going to have a
chance to make money and make people continue to feel good about the Sega brand.
I think Capcom is maybe one of the other ones that has somehow managed
to make people happy and excited about just that brand. So I think that
they're going to be slightly in a better position than say in ubisof for sure,
But you know, I think the thing that has hurt Sony the most
in Microsoft to a lesser extent, is that they just for some reason they
lost the ability to release these sort of mid sized games, to have things
like an ape Escape be an important part of your ongoing portfolio, right,
and now, how do you get that back? And can you get that
back? Yeah? I think the good news for Sony is clearly they have
that affinity. Clearly they have people who just love all the time. Yes,
And so that means if they can sort of change gears a little bit
internally and change their focus a little bit, I think they will be able
to message that to their gue hards and people will come up, mostly will
come along for the ride. The troublesome thing for them is that over the
last ten years, and really from the beginning with PlayStation is they've built up
this identity that they are going to make the games that look the most expensive,
They are going to make the games that have that extra shine. I
go. I've talked on Jay Barrett Bary's podcast. Before you call it that
PlayStation fragrance, it just smells special, and really, you know what that
is is like the games just look expensive, and so it's money money,
and money is on the screen to a certain extent. Now, obviously there's
diminishing returns. We see that with Spider Man Spider Man two more expensive,
Where's it on the screen? But you can't deny that at some point PlayStation
games look like they have money on the screen more so than just about any
other publisher, and their audience really has appreciated. That's because just it's human
nature. I posted the tweet about a people will like wine more, a
cheap wine more if you tell them it's expensive. That it's just the human
brain wants to think that that they're consuming something that is important and that was
a lot of care was put into it and a lot of craft and like
it makes them feel special and therefore they do enjoy it more. So it's
going to be a little bit difficult to pull that stuff away. And really
the the answer is you don't pull it away. You kind of have to
do more. You do have to keep investing in these big games, and
maybe that means they come a little bit less frequently. It seems like that's
where we're at. But then you've got to find supplemental ways to build out
the lineup so that you can have more things there so you can have a
wider spread of how you are spending your money and making your bets. At
least that's how it feels to me. Now. It's like choose your fighter.
You have PlayStation the profitable sector of a larger company that is struggling to
find profits that is able to make these the big, big, big expensive
games always hit, but or maybe aren't that many of them now Microsoft maybe
a sector that isn't super profitable and an incredibly profitable uh business, yeah point
struggling a bit that Triple A front, but making some then roads that those
smarkets we're talking about being able to have things like a high Fi Rush and
a pen ciment. I mean maybe a thieves probably need see if PlayStation will
kind of kill for us SEA if thieves like right, I mean on those
lines, yeah, yeah, right, So I mean Microsoft would clearly kill
to have Game of the Year contenders and giant Triple A games that people love.
That goes without saying that's why we're not really saying it powers combined,
right right, Yeah, So this anxiety that people are having about about all
this, it's there's a reason for it, because, like we keep saying
that something's going to have to change. Can't go this way forever. The
number can't keep going up on that side of things, at least not without
us paying on the other side. And the way Sony was going to make
us pay was with those live service games, and that was like going to
be okay, that's going to pay for the whole party, and that's potentially
potential like splitting up games into two pieces. Primently that was at least at
one point on the table for Spider Man. Yeah, so far out.
I don't want to get too hysterical about that thing, but right, yeah,
but in there about you know, maybe a Spider Man three Part one
and part two and each one's fifty bucks. Yeah, it was gonna be
fifty bucks for part one part two, and then multiplayer was going to be
a separate thing and it had fifty dollars attached to it as well. And
I'm just like, a, there's no way that this is going to actually
be how that happens, that would be very strange. But they that's the
point, Like the point you're bringing up here is they are considering alternative methods
of extracting value from the user because they know they got to keep making bigger
to appeal to their audience, and that is getting it is getting unsustainable.
It just straight up is now they're still profitable, but for them it's about
it has to be a home run every time, and that's what we're talking
about. This is maybe a bit more overthinking things. It seems like maybe
this where we are right now in some ways started with like a graf theft
Auto five. There's a part of me that worries about what grindth of dolls
sticks is going to be and just how unreachable whatever that is for everybody else
is going to be, and if that's going to put them make the pressure
continue to just keep getting bigger, bigger, bigger, more expensive, more
expensive. There was a time where people could make GTA clones. Yes,
people don't the time. People don't even try to make GTU, right,
Has anyone tried to even make a red Dead Redemption two clone that's been for
years, Game of the Year, all these accolades, people like, I
want more of this. No one's even attemptive in yeah, yeah, because
of course you can't, because there's certain like a certain point. It is
even just about money. Obviously you need a lot of money, but It's
like, Okay, even if we had all that money, the talent acquisition
would be even more expensive, and then the time it would take to get
a team to work together to make something that is as cohesive as that would
be even more expensive. It's just everyone knows not to even try that.
So it's like these games that are held up as the future or or the
ideal, we can't approach that. So it's like we maybe we should be
looking for an other ideals. I'm happy to do that obviously, someone who
doesn't love Red Dead rens right. And I mean you see how much we
hear from like you know, like Nintendo has it figured out. You hear
from some people who maybe are a bit more Hey, the games that matter
are these biggest bits of games, like stick their nose up with something like
Super Mario Wonder is a nominate for Game of the Year, Like, well,
how could that possibly be? Yeah? Yeah, right. So there's
just there's certain people who can just sort of never accept that and maybe would
resent if Sony released the game that maybe only cost ten million dollars to make.
I mean, maybe when were They'll ignore it though, I mean,
what happened with you know that fucking Sackboy exactly. Sackboy, exactly what happen
a sack Boy even Click to some extent, which was a very expensive looking
game. To be honest, I'm not true quite sure what that's about with
and I'm not saying that that game was a failure or flopped. I know
some people were using certain things from the leak to say that there's no way
to really know they're not a success on the scale of a Spiderband or even
a Horizon. I think that's a little weird. I think that's pretty weird.
Yep. And I mean I'm like, we're all looking for the person
who did this at a certain point. That is Sony teaching their audience about
what games are important to them. You know, it's the Jeff Backlhart's important
scale writ large like you'd like say, hey, the ones that are important
are the ones that have realistic visuals and are and are even more expensive than
Ratchet and Clank, and then they deal with serious topics so you can feel
like a big boy when you're playing your game or whatever. And you know,
people are allowed to have like whatever taste they want, but it's it
is going to have an effect on what PlayStation is able to do when there
are when we're looking ten years down the line about how they're going to be
able to keep up with the demand for software. And even when Sony has
studio is that we're making smaller games like a house market. It's like,
let's scale that up, right, Yeah, right, let's scale that up
to the point where their last game was just a seventy dollars game and their
next game is probably going to look you at more like a kind of traditional
Sony walk in talk. Yeah, even if it's like not deliberate in terms
of make the scale it up, like if it's just something that kind of
happens, it is something that happens. I think because of the environment these
studios are in, like hell Divers too, like Hell Divers too, Like
they bring in the camera in, it looks more like a PlayStation game than
ever. And some parts of me is like, well, that's cool.
I like that, But also part of me is like, does that happen
because the studio feels they need to do that to keep Sony's attention on them
so they can get some budget and all this, and it's like maybe I
don't know, no idea if that's the case, but I feel like it
might be true, And that's kind of what I'm talking here. The studio
might feel it's true as well. Again, we talk about this about Sony
because it's like they are in a place where it's like, clearly they're successful,
Clearly they have a lot of stuff figured out, but that doesn't mean
the next step isn't going to be a little precarious and they could missed up.
I bet this is a company that will figure a lot of these problems
out right. I'm not saying I don't think there's going to be a PlayStation
in five years, of course, no way, of course, night and
I've gotten right enough to be clear. God that would be awful. God
that would suck. I love PlayStation. That'd be terrible. But you know,
it's just the scene. This stuff it does kind of it is stunning
to really see these numbers and thoughts that see things like Sony saying, hey,
even Insomniac, you need to find way to cut costs because everybody at
Sony has to do similar things. So maybe we're going to cancel that ration
and Clink game or move people from this game to that. Right Already,
the problem is not very many games. Yep, we are finally here.
It's twenty twenty four next week basically, you know a little bit more than
that. But I was talking to Jan and Backlar today about all the games
we're looking forward to in twenty twenty four. That'll be next week's BombCast everybody,
And it really is like nothing confirmed from PlayStation really, especially now that
we know wol Rain's coming out sometime much later. Maybe there's a Spider Man
two multiplayer, but you know, I know, I like, I don't
know. I still think like there must be a ghost Yushima two that's getting
close to being I hope so now I think so, but who knows at
this point, who knows? It could very easily not be a twenty twenty
four game, you know, other like Blue Point. We don't know exactly.
I think there's maybe something about what they were working on the league.
I don't know. That might be very nebulous. Still, yeah, but
you know, I hope it's more than say Best of Us Part two remake.
And I was like, I no know, we'll see I mean,
like a soft similar I think a valved is twenty twenty four pre today,
child Like, okay, that didn't even show that great then in the last
time we saw it. Yeah, it's weird. I feel like we had
a of course, twenty twenty three was twenty twenty three, but going into
it, I felt like I was saying, yeah, I'm looking forward to
Final Fantasy and Dioblo and Street Fighter, and even now, I remember even
thinking I was looking forward to Allen Wait two, people telling me it probably
wasn't gonna come out that year, but like I knew a good amount of
the games next year, I'm like Rebirth off Bessy seven, Rebirth Persona.
I'm not sure too much after that. There's a infinite wealth. Sure,
there's our things, but it's you know, in some ways, Hey,
of course we're gonna probably have a slow year than we had last year.
How how slow a year can this industry afford? Right now? Yeah?
And yeah, bench points out, Hey, fifty million PlayStation five sold.
It's doing very well. It's just like, yeah, we're just looking at
this prospect of like the forecast of how do you keep this industry chugging along
the way it is. There's a lot of question marks, that's all.
And there's a super chat I wanted to bring up now, since it's on
the topic, Adam GC says, who do I have to talk to at
PlayStation to get a three hundred million dollar Uncharted five? Please? I am
begging you. I think it's like when we look at these numbers, it
kind of explains why it's so easy to like stop putting out Uncharted games,
even though it's like for me, I was like, that's a no brainer,
just keep making those, but it's like now, like looking at the
budget, it's kind of a no brainer. You don't do that unless you
have a team that it really really wants to make it and that you can
really, really really rely on. A Naughty Dog is in that studio and
they're like focused on other things. It's like at a certain it's not even
opportunity cost, it's just cost cost, and it's like there's no way that
could How could they possibly fit another three hundred million dollar game into that those
studios there, It's like they can't. There's just no way. So yeah,
I don't know how this and that's the final thing and we can move
on. This is why it's like we're going to get more of these non
ip whether that is from Hollywood or from these companies that have already been making
these ips that are successful. Yeah, you got to. You gotta do
something that mitigates as much risk as possible, because you just can't afford any
risk associated with a three hundred to four hundred million dollar bet. And you
know, again, that's why my maybe why my appeal is so strong to
Nintendo, because they are making different kinds of bets and we're getting so many
different kinds of games and then early access. I'm like, again, I
can't speak highly enough of a lethal company stuff like that out of nowhere,
and they could still come for Nintendo at some point. The next system is
going to catch up a bit graphically, right. Oh yeah, we've already
seen some studios like Pokemon Company impacted trying to keep up. Yeah, very
good point with that. Great unitarily not a problem, but for them still
concerning in other ways. Yeah, and uh, if Nintendo has to start
making four K assets, yes, I bet, I bet that's going to
be a problem for them. Uh. Okay, that's the big topic I
wanted to talk about. I don't have much else in terms of news,
But is there anything that I missed that you want to jump on or should
we just kind of get to some super chats. Now, just get to
some supers. I think, you know, we can talk again about the
debate of if league should be covered or not. Let's not Yeah, let's
clearly fit respectful, news worthy manner here, right. Uh yeah. If
if that makes you mad, there are plenty of places in go that aren't
going to do it, and you have my permission to be at it.
I mean, look, I guess stuff is the stuff is just newsworthy and
kind of useful to know. Yep. I mean, like as always,
it's like if we can better understand how decisions get made, it's clearly something
that I think we should be talking about, at least on our shows.
Okay, let's see here, Mike, let's take a quick break. We
get we'll get back, We'll do those super chats. Talk to you all
right after this and we're back. Mike, read those super chats. Oh
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I pee Yeah, I guess that's a little bit of the oven in the
room with uh say, We're gonna make a bunch of marble games now,
but the superhero stuff is a and the Marble brand superin the general seemed to
be weakening a bit. Maybe all these deals seemed a lot more uh profitable
when they're getting made like five years ago than now. Yeah, when I
asked some sort is about it, like early on, when especially after Harry
Potter and then hearing that EA was going to go get a bunch of Marvel
licenses after getting the Star Wars license and Bungling that, it was explained to
me it's like, yeah, that's true. These things could winken, and
yet these companies still see it as a safer bet than trying to make their
own new IP. It's that I find that kind of disappointing and discouraging,
but it's apparently it's the truth that getting a new ip off the ground is
expensive in its own way, and there's no guarantees, and you can have
a little bit more assurance if it's something that people know, but you're not
wrong. A lot of these games are going to fizzle because people aren't going
to care. And I think it's very likely to happen with Suicide Squad unless
that game is very good, which is also a possibility. But we'll see.
We'll see if that was starting next or early next year. We're gonna
have an idea. The movies have an opportunity, I mean, the games
have an opportunity to kind of seem like an alternative to the movies. Definitely
good point, Podder. Those movies were going into this shitter like they were
making money more. Everyone hated them, this Fantastic Beast movie, but then
the video game was a giant head yep, exactly. Maybe it doesn't matter.
Let's see, Hey you, Peka Blue says sense Mikey isn't carolling this
season? Will you both do one quick Christmas song? Stay leaky thanks heark
Here the bells, sweet Christmas bells, all seem to say throat cares away,
Christmas is here, bringing good cheer to young and old. Week in
the board Ding dun ding dong, that is their song with dreyful ring ah
carol ling. One seems to hear words of good cheer from everywhere, feeling
the year. Oh how they power raising their sound, or hear one te
telling their toe Okay they ringing? Why people singing songs of good year?
Christmas is here, Marry Merry, merry, merry, Christmas. Merry,
merry, merry, merry Christmas. On on, they rang on with no
when their joyful tone to every home heark how the bells, sweet silver bells?
Oh seem to say, throw cares away, Throw cares away? Okay,
Jeff your turn, jingle bells, Batman smells, robbing, waid an
egg, the batmo peel lost a wheel and the joker got away. Hey
that's pretty good, too, good job man, thank you very much.
But let's be honest. Better than me. Oh oh yeah, yeah,
without a doubt. Next one here is from Jacob bet You says Mike gives
off big Arlow energy. Oh no, I know. I kind of came
at Arlow the other little bit. Everybody, I really, I have not
watched. I can't make it through an Arlow video. This is not a
judgment of Arlow and I love muppets, but something about something about Arlow does
I have to admit weird me out a little bit? Can we I don't
know what it is. We take this seriously. It's what I think.
No, I don't care. I don't think I've ever been really confronted with
an Arlow video. You're confronted with the Zone one and people are mad about
Like. To be clear, my position there is not that I'm mad at
Arlow about that zone opinion, it's why are people mad at Arlo? Right?
I think I heard kind of whine. I'm like, oh, yeah,
okay, whatever, don't get mad. Who gives a shit? Yeah
or yo do go? Says Hi, Mike a Disney puppet. Why don't
you pass the time by playing a little song Militaire? And Jeff not a
bunch of apples in a trench coat? Thank you, Thank you, Ariel.
Adam Davis was a first generous supertit here think you so much, Adam
says, Hi, no question. Just want to say how much I've loved
getting into Game Mess this year. And I work out in middle school and
have some kids who get excited to watch Game Mess Jeopardy with me and not
so cursing is cool. Wow, Thank you, Adam, incredible. Thank
you so much that next time I really appreciate uh. Hot dog of dooms.
Another first Superses says favorite holiday takeout food General Grubs, Chicken. Would
you would you open a chicken restaurant or a hot dog take out? Oh?
I would probably person. I would probably do hot dog, although I
think it probably be a better business to do chicken if I were right now,
if I were like Legit, if I was going to open a restaurant
like a delivery restaurant, it would be a sandwich shop. I learned a
lot working at Jimmie Johnson Subway, and I see how easy it is to
sell sandwiches. They are very easy to make and you get them delivered very
fast, and that's a big help I do. Perogis green thumb says Merry
Christmas and happy Holidays. Conna would back again and said they goodness to the
demand for Marvel Nuver jobs. Yeah, chiter, what says? How did
Ghost of Shushima cost sixty million to make? And Spider Man two cost three
hundred million of the game? But that is not a three dred million dollar
game. I mean if you think about things like the buildings and the complexity
of that open world. And I love go Ghost of Shushima, but so
a lot of planes and huts and like hills and trees, right, other
factors right in terms of more actors are being paid, and how much more
voice lines and dialogue and cut scenes, even I could see I agree that
maybe no video games to cost three of million dollars to make, but I
could see how Spider Man two could be significantly more expensive than Ghost of Shushima.
Yeah. Also, I mean Spider Man two made during the pandemic and
inflation. I mean, it really is a big difference. I mean,
now, it's not that much. It's not gonna be the whole story,
but a big part of that number is like, it's not like people didn't
pay, you know, forty million dollars to like have a computer spit out
a CGI dinosaur for Jurassic Park. It's like, no, they paid people
to make that. It's what it cost. The dinosaur costs however much it
cost to pay those people. That's how games are made. It costs howver
much it cost to pay those people. And paying people throughout the pandemic was
way more than it was right before, when it was like the Ghost of
Sushimia era. And I bet Sucker Punch had a very more like streamlined idea
of what they wanted to make, and the Spider Man game was able to
balloon because the first one sold very very well. That's now, Oh Grug
asks who is your smelliest co worker? Jeff My smellious co worker is tam
but in a very positive way. Very good smelling guy, very nice.
Ye y yeah, I'm a stanky I'm a stanky boy. I didn't smell
bad this morning. It was like I worked out last night and I did
not like clean myself and I'm like, I had to get the shower first
thing. I'm like, I cannot stand myself right now, so clean myself
up. What's your wife think of that? Wasn't pleased? Wasn't pleased?
You know, it's just a bit stuffy, nos. So I got away
with it, Okay, Yeah, cg have another first superhich I thank you
so much as Happy holiday guys. Happy holidays guys. I traded my r
O g ally for a steam deck, all led and going to be happier.
Moonlight now also supports HDR grub yep. I'm I am going to be
spending some time this holiday break, uh kind of reconfiguring my steam deck oh
lad, and getting stuff like EMU deck set up again and just going to
work and making sure everything is exactly how I want it, making sure all
the art is in everything, and then doing stuff like Moonlight Jockey for deck
has been really cool to play more PS five games, So I'll be doing
that with Moonlight as well. Like the O'Leary says, time to gather around
the heart for X miss marks the spot the Christmas episode of The Real Ghostbusters
where they time traveled to Victorian England and trap the ghosts of Christmas past present
and that rule what a good show. Yeah, that show was primarily written
by J. Michael Strasensky, who would go on to do like Babylon five
and stuff, like a really prolific sci fi author. And you can see
like he's just got a ton of ideas and they show up in that show.
It's not just like, oh, we're gonna score score shot out some
bad ideas for a kid's show. It's like an actual, real sci fi
author. I don't know, Mike, I don't know why I said score.
It's funny. You could you would have could have gone away with it
if he just kept going. I want to say anything. I need to
stand in the light of my sins. Devon Greedy says, hey, is
it true that Sunset over Drives profit was five hundred dollars if yet? If
yes, is it just weird? How Insomniac did an interview on making a
sequel with or without Microsoft backing the game is amazing. I did see that
apparently part of the leak that so said overdrives profit was like just five hundred
dollars, just basically slim. I think that's like that game has a lot
of very vocal fans, Jeff, it did not set the world on No.
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's entirely possible. It's also possible that
those numbers out of date or or just like look, yeah, it's it's
really hard to tell. But I think we can safely assume that game was
not very profitable at all. I have I have I admitted before that I
think since it Overdrive is a little mid Yeah, I think I think.
Yeah. I played it, I reviewed it, I bean it, and
I was like, it was fine. I did not get the hubble balloo
over it. Did not get the hubble balloo about it. No, I'll
take my Retchicks or even my spider manswerm Insomniac over that. I do too.
Jason Fulton says, uh, writer, I follow wrote one essay a
day about Roadhouse for a year, published as a book after what game would
you write? Three hundred and sixty five essays about links Awakening, Like if
I legit had to do that and thought about like releasing as a book,
I could probably we do that about links Awakening, not stright prime, I
think I could do that. I would be a good one as well.
I would legit read that. Yeah, Dycene says, we may never get
Mega Religions three, but you can now buy official Mega man X Dive NFTs
for one hundred dollars each. What world is this real? Jesus Christ?
Almost certainly, yes, it's real, and just presenting it that way is
just insult to injury. I'm sorry, thank you for the super chat,
but god damn are we still here? How are we still here? Give
me a fucking break. That's got to just be like the power of momentum
at a certain point, like it got started and something happened, but they
just had enough momentum to actually get released. I never know. No one
plays Mega man X Dive anyways. Uhdrachi says playing switching the toilet that's a
gaming leak. You know, I'm not much of a toilet gamer anymore,
but I could do my business pretty fast these days, especially with the bidet
and all that stuff. So I'm just not in there long enough anymore.
I used to love taking the game Boy into the bathroom. That was also
when I lived with people and kind of wanted to get away with them.
Now, yeah, I was gonna say, I go in there to get
away from my kids. So exactly, it's great. Uh. Next one
here is from uh real Ore six times the speaking Pizza. I got a
chicken teaka masalt pizza to night and it was fucked up in the best way.
Didn't we get one of those at dance? We did, yes,
and it was really tasty. Yeah, but that chicken and waffle pizza we
got from MIC's that your place is still kind of the goat of gimme you
know that place is act that Mike's Pizza is at Crocker Park. It's like,
that's where it's at. I heard that Crocker Park is frightening in the
dark. All the dinosaurs are running. Wow warrizzle, says Mary Christmas and
milky animal cake. Yeah. Now I'm trying to sing the normal lyrics Ats
song, Jeff, and I'm only getting the weird out Jurassic Park one.
Sure. Yeah sorry Richard Harris, Yeah, Harris is pretty upset with you.
He's dead, Apa Eater says, and Panada Eater says, thanks for
all the hours of podcast the streams over the last year. I highly recommend
that new did you Know Gaming video? I will watch it if you haven't
seen it yet. The segment on the Xbox Underground is wow, oh I
haven't seen this yet. Basically put on tonight Xbox Underground the thing where you
could like tap into it a version of Xbox Live on the review units of
the Xbox Oh wow, maybe Xbox three sixty so like journalists were able to
just like download builds of games, like I've heard about that before. I
one, if that's Xbox Underground, maybe that's something else. But yeah,
I'm gonna watch this video. I'm looking forward to it. And that's it
for now. Thank you so much everybody. Look, thanks everybody. Is
we wish all of you well. If you have any more super chats,
we will still read those before the end of the show. I believe we
have a game to set up for those grub Yes, we're gonna do that
now, we're gonna take a quick break. And Xbox Underground is the group
that did something with partner Net. Partner Net was that service as far as
I remember. Uh, okay, actually there's one more. Why do you
read that? While I get ready to set up the show, Tendrek says,
where's your favorite place to get She's pizza? And what is your favorite
Flinston's episode? Mary Fest? Of this? For some reason, I think
if when it is the first one that comes to mind is some episode where
Barney builds a pool, I don't know why. Or the episode where Barney
and Betty like are sad they can't have kids and like wish for one and
they get Bam band. It's iconic obvious. Obviously. I don't remember any
episodes. I mean, I remember watching the show as a kid, but
I don't remember anything that happened in any of them. I remember some of
the movie, the live action movie. I remember, Oh you remember how
he Bury? I bet yes. Well, of course I want to under
seen a Viva Rock Vegas. I gotta change that. Yeah, if those
are on Prime videos, So let's do a watch along. Oh yeah,
all right, everybody, We're to take a quick break. When we get
back, we will get set up for a game, and then we have
a big topic and a bunch of other stuff. We'll be back after this
and we're back, and I feel like playing a video game, well a
game like i't supposed to say there's video comp on a video game on this
video game podcast, Sean take it over. You spent how many months talking
about PlayStation portal this PlayStation portal that, and I was like, just set
up Chockey, It's it's easy. I'll help you out. Really now,
I'm just you told me that the switch old was coming out or the All
right, it's time for Everybody's fair game show with that podcast closest to the
Messy Pin Volume twenty one, we're on here, presented by Me Turbo Shawn,
powered by Metacrek of course a Bop original from executive producer Benji Bob Kojima.
Now we got some fun facts before we get into the game here,
since it's it's our ten episode recap. That's how Bob likes to do things.
He's very much the numbers guy. The official record stands at I don't
know how this happened. Mike is at eight eleven and one. What you
guys tied? I do, yeah? I think we tied one? Yeah?
Tired remember that? Yeah? This? Yeah? Probably because it's a
stupid rule or whatever, which means that Jeff is leading eleven eight and the
other score is specifically to prevent ties. You know how that workout. Average
score per game. Mike is at twenty four point five, Jeff is at
twenty five point five. So still I do remember this from last time.
Jeff is ahead in games one, but Mike is more accurate overall that average
margin from guest actual score. Mike is five point won three, Jeff is
five point seven to four. Again more accurate total exact guesses Mike with four,
Jeff with eleven, which explains why he has so many more games under
his belt. AJ with one and he knows Sean wa zero h largest margin
of victory is episode fourteen, Mike won thirty three to seventy. That's what
That's what Jeff got confused about the Steel Battalion kidney. Yeah, yess,
Adam Davis and Chat says with Jeff loses, he all caps loses. Put
that on his grace for real biggest whiffs a score. Mike was forty eight
off and Jeff was forty four off both on Amy was that PS three horror
game that was AJ was twenty one off on Aladdin For the GBA and I
was off by nineteen on Castlevania judgment. That's right, Like, no,
people like Castlevinia judgments like, I don't think I done. No, I
was like, I think they thought it was okay and now they think it's
good, but no, they thought it was absolutely terrible. The most common
guest score is eighty five, which cowards guests yeah sixteen times. Hell yeah,
I think I'm like at least twelve of those. So the unofficial records
for the ones that we don't count. Mike is three and two, Jeff
is two and two, I am two and three, and AJ is one.
Oh so regulations to AJ. This is all the guest editions and the
Dan Reichert edition that we did. Oh okay, Uh. The longest winning
streak is Jeff with three in a row. Hell yeah, let's fucking go
yeah. Fun fact, Mike has not had an overall better record than Jeff
since episode nine. Yikes. And then how many times did Jeff bring up
the guests the game I guess the same score rule? Nine times? Now?
How many times? How many times did these guys bring it up?
How many times did Jeff use the guests the same score rule? Twice,
so congress, So I believe that's up a one from last times more than
if it wasn't a rule. How many times they bop actually make a mistake
three times shouts to Marvel versus S and K two. How many times did
Jeff not crop the screen properly? Ten point five half a time. I'm
wondering how he counts that. Yeah, how many times Mike did a shot
while I explained the rules one time and twelve? How many times neither contestant
correctly guess the theme one time? I can't remember what that's for? One
or something times the game ended up being tied after round four? Was four
times interesting? And lastly, a three contestant game was played once. It
was when me and Jeff played the Pokemon Special Edition and Mike from his cruise.
Both A wrote his answer in chat and B called into the show to
give an answer. I knows that's probably drunk, is great, he knows
Jeff ended up winning, and Sean is the first person to lose twice in
the same game. Thank you, thank you, alright. That being said,
the rules, in case you don't know how this game works, are
that every round the guys will be given a certified retro game ten years ago
were older. The goal is to predict the games of metrics score on metacrirek
dot com. We use the closest to the pinn scoring system, so the
difference between your guests and the correct answer will be accumulation after every round.
At the end of the game, the little total scorer wins golf roles.
If you guess the exact number, you will deduct five points for your overall
score. And the newest rule, as suggested by aj Minatti, the current
leader has to go first to make you a little more difficult on them.
So you boys ready, let's go? All right? So, who the
hell won last time? I think? I think? Oh, okay,
I don't remember. I feel all right since nobody remembers I and do my
homework. I'm flipping a coin yet, agin and look it's Mike will be
going first. Okay, tell you what do you think? Ultimate Spider Man
for the Xbox released September nineteenth, two thousand and five, with fifty three
correct reviews on macrorek dot com has on macrak doc look people like this.
I think it got things for being kind of short or something. There was
something where it wasn't liked, it didn't get reviewed quite what was Spider Man
two did at that time where you saw maniac games later. So I want
to say, like, I'm going to guess, and I don't want to
do the cowards guess, but yeah, this is the Xbox version. I
want to guess in eighty four. That's tough. I do know the people
like this. I remember being very resentful of them not still not doing the
right kind of swinging after Spider Man two, where it's like building based the
physics based swinging, and I wonder how much I wonder if that, like
critics would have been over that mostly or I do know, like the critics
I followed the time at like AGM definitely noticed that stuff, and we're very
frustrated as well. But you know, this is fifty three critics good.
I'm just gonna say, eighty three eighty three prices riding mic Okay, Well,
may think I was maybe low, So I like this. I'm glad
Ultimate Spider Man got a seventy sad Okay, shit, never mind. I
think I think people were pretty sour about this one because people talk about the
system. What are the Spider Man games as I recall people didn't like the
Venom stuff. People don't like that. Apparently Venom eight children. People don't
like that. Oh cool hit. Yeah they would be a little sour about
that. Sounds like a plus to me. Yeah, all right. Next
game, X Men origins Wolverine on the Xbox three sixty This released April twenty
nine, two nine whopping seventy four for interviews to work with Jeff Yeah,
yeah, I goes I'm losing. No, No, you get to go
last, because that's right. Yeah, I get it, I remember now,
I got sorry, Jeff, No, no, no worries. I
had to think about it too, like what if that stupid shit they just
said it's not as good as my rule. That's all I'm saying. Dig
it counted again? Yeah? Thank Okay. This one's tough because I know
it's actually a pretty good game, but it's based on some real dog shit
stuff, and I think that like rupped off on it in kind of a
bad way. I think it's also going to dinged for people think at the
time it's too much of a God Got of War clone. I'm afraid of
going in the seventies though, And again, I know this is a game
that I like it. I like it. I'm gonna go with eighty flat
eighty all right. I do think it got dinged for one being a licensed
game at a time when that was not super popular, and I'm not like
them. I think people are like, oh, yeah, this is surprisingly
good, but it's in the seventies. I'm going to say seventy eight.
Okay, I do not know, but I feel like Mike might be a
little more on the right tracks. Possible. Yeah, it might be lower
than that, but true of the matter is that it is sitting at seventy
five right there. Yep, go, that's pretty good. So the lead
has shifted. Mike is now one point in the advantage here. Game number
three X Men Destiny released the Nintendo DS September twenty seventh, twenty eleven,
only six correct reviews to work with here, Mike, how we ever to
figure out those? I think I'm first, right, Oh, we know
your Mike's first? Sure, right? Because you're losing. You don't smart,
that's the fun. That's the fuck to AJ again. Wow, AJ's
shit ass stupid fucking AJ. Jesus christ Ah. Well that's okay, so
I get mixed up, but Legends is the one people like that became Marve
Ultimate Alliance. Destiny is the Dentist DIAC one. But that's console, the
DS version. There's a DS version, right, Uh what? Uh?
Sixty six? Okay, Jeff, uh listen, Yes, I'm pretty sure
this game is dog shit on console. Like I know it's dog shit on
console the DS version. I'm with Mike. I had no idea this existed,
but I'm gonna I'm gonna bet it's worse. I'm gonna say fifty five.
Yeah, it may have gone high. That might pay. Yeah,
I feel like this might be the curve ball on X Men Destiny for the
Nintendo DS. From six reviewers, got thirty three. Mike did not get
that correct? What is what's this math? Bop? Oh? It broke,
it broke, it's it overflowed? All that was very far away?
What was your gal six? Six? Thirty three? So that messes messed
it up? So okay, thirty three points jesus all right, so you're
at forty three then, yeah, I now I want to play this.
No, I'm curious how that happened with our little game here. Anyways.
Game number four is X Men Legends to Rise of the Apocalypse. This was
for the PS two release September twentieth. I think there's a lot of September
there. Fair recall two thousand and five forty four career reviews is definitively in
the lead. Where are you going with, sir? Yeah, so these
are like the proto of like Marvel Ultimate Alliance games. Right, So I'm
gonna think that they are pretty decent, but I bet they are underbaked,
and I'm gonna go with like a seventy eight alright, Right, I'm gonna
make up a low groun here because I think these are more light than that.
Even I think it's probably more like an eighty probably like an eighty five.
Part of me wants to say in eighty six that had my best little
and maybe make up some ground. No, but I think eighty five is
right. I'm gonna say eighty five. They will get eighty high rather high.
Okay, they were well liked, I know, I did I know
people like this? Right? That's always the question for me. Yeah,
because I remember, like me and my friends absolutely loved these games, and
that's why we went into Ultimate Alliance with high hopes. But the critics thought
it deserved an eighty two. Al right, so still good score there.
Mike's playing with his poker chips of course. All right, all right,
so Jeff retains his lead thirty forty six, I mean, the littlest of
point at a time. Yep, yeah, you know he could turn him
back around. Game number five. The final one is spider Man Total Mayhem,
released for iOS What's Wrong with You September first, twenty ten, with
ten critic reviews. Jeff, Oh fucking no, this is good news for
me. Yeah, you just go anywhere. Yeah, I'm gonna go seventy
five AA logic behind that or just nuts? Yeah, it feels like a
good middle number. That'll be hard for me to get too far one way
or the other. Four I will say a sixty three. Okay, ay,
logic there. I think that's just enough. I think it's probably worth
because it's some shitty Spidery mobile game, and also that's enough to get me
a winter Well it's in the middle. It won't be, but I don't
think it's gonna be the medal. I think it's going to be a blow
it. That's what I'm kind of heading my bets on. Okay, that's
Okay, I blow that and then I'll win. All right, fair enough?
Well, Spider Man Total Mayhem, a game I had not heard of
until today, has an eighty five what let's fucking go, which means jeffyringall
forty seven to sixty eight? What like at a certain point? Like do
they even review really shitty mobile games? Yeah? What was that game called
Spider Man Oup? I already forgot Total Mayhem may Ultimate spider Man Total mayn
that's another mistake. Pop Uh, nothing matters. God, a twenty ten
action game for iOS and Android. I'm telling you this. Motherfuckers give a
fucking crush like ninety also known as Spider Man Total Mayhem. Hey, yeah,
obviously that was that was the order at which it's Omniak is going to
be releasing its future games. So good, good thing. Are you talk
about the leaks? All right? Thanks everybody for playing the game along with
us. I'm sure you played it. Oh, I'm sure you did better
than both of us. We have more to come on the show. We're
going to get out of the game. We'll be right back after this and
we're back, and thanks again for everybody for hanging out with this episode.
I know everyone's got a holiday stuff happening. I bet a lot of people
are like, I'm all five time for the podcast. They're probably listening right
now. So thanks, thank you for bringing out with us all year.
I appreciate it. We are going to do our big segment of the week
on what I fucking call these things. Best game of twenty ten, that's
what we're doing. Me and Mike, we picked the five best games of
the year, that year being twenty ten. We'll have a whole bunch of
others well, a bunch of submissions for our podcast producers. If you want
to send in a super chat suggest something, we'll hear you out. But
at the end of the day, it's down to me and Mike and we're
going to get into it right now. But Sean, did you want to
just give yours up front? And you were like itching and rare in to
go, Yeah, just so I don't have to put it in a text
in you know, find sure. Yeah, guys, twenty ten guys,
Pokemon heard Old Souls over Mike, please the remakeas okay, consider it right
there. They're very good. We talked about this. Consider it all right.
If those are actually in the US, and twenty. Those are If
somebody's like, what's the one Pokeymon game I should play? If I can
only play one, it is probably Pokemon Heard it's the best version, one
of the best games. Yeah right, it's just it's just a very good
update of what was probably already the best Pookymon game. So yeah, maybe
up to that point. Well we'll have black and white soon, but yes,
so hard Goold Soul Silver are very good. All right, you know
what, I'll addit and to here for sure. Wow, wow, you're
a piece of ship. Let's see what you do there. You can't Yeah,
put far gold Soul Silver. You're really proud of yourself. Yeah,
I am where we're starting. Wait, I learned I've been playing Lethal Company,
Jeff. Jeff, how does it feel to know that you are more
of a troll during Lethal Company than Dan Riker? Why you believe that?
About that? I feel like I am being misrepresented, Like, yeah,
I did a little trolling the first time I hit I'm like testing my shovel
and Mike walks in front of me and it was the end of the world.
Jeff is clearly order you killed about me and Tam by taking off early.
Yes, and I definitely did that because we were like, hey,
we waited like five minutes, it's probably good. And then of course you
guys show up and make me look real bad. And then the other time
I misheard you. I just misheard you. You said today, and I'm
like, oh, go okay, I don't know how it was very you
know what it was is Honestly, it's kind of hard to hear people in
that game sometimes because of the audio, and I think excuses. Let's talk
about what we would you pick for twenty ten? It's a pretty big troll.
Yes, I've had to know how to trolling. Uh, okay,
what would I pick for twenty ten? I mean Super Mario Galaxy two.
Yeah. Yeah, that's a really fucking good game. That is such a
good video game, Holy crap. And we did not think we're gonna just
get a direct sequel to Mario go oh right, yeah. And then they
like, well, there's a couple things I prefer about Mario Galaxy one.
For sure. I like that it took the story just a slight bit more.
Seriously, I even think I liked the hub world stuff a little bit
more than just the kind of lazy world map of Galaxy two whatever. But
the level designed in Super Mario Galaxy two is immaculate. It is such a
fun game to play, Like even just throwing Yoshian with seems like, oh,
sure they threw Yoshi in, they threw Yoshi into Sunshine whatever. Yoshi
in this game. Super fun, right, just great, gosh. I
think about Mario Galaxy two all the time. Still it still comes up to
me. It's still like a measuring stick in a lot of ways. Like
when Titan Fall two was good, people like this is the super Mario Galaxy
two of shooters, and I you know he said that with me in my
headline. Yep, yep, yeah, right there exactly. It is.
At the time, it was like coming out and I was getting excited,
and like the reviews were hitting it. It's like, yeah, it's just
like has so many ideas, Like what do you mean and you go play,
Oh my god, Mario Galaxy one already great, and then Mario Galaxy
two does feel like they just had a thousand more ideas, and it's in
every level and every twelve minutes you're doing something new. It's just in itself.
Of course, it just feels good and they like refined all of the
cameras and the controls even a little bit more, and yeah, Yoshi surprisingly
good and a three D platformer turns out. And I really did help to
have the pointer that does make a lot of sense with the tongue. But
you know, they figured it out and made a really great game. Fantastic.
I think Massive VIC two is a massive no no pl massively important,
had a massive effect on the industry, right, Like everybody came into this
one really impressed. You know, it was a bit of a risk to
say we're gonna make it more actiony. You can see how that can go
really bad, but they actually made the shooting a lot better with that,
and they sort of doubled down on at least a character side of the role
playing anyways. So the fact that where there wasn't much as much like stats
or pause and think about what you're doing, you lost a little bit of
the RPG in that aspect, But they really doubled down on the RPG stuff
in other ways. Really great characters here. They're returning people like Garris Tyali
are fantastic, but a Thane and Morten very good ton. I think that's
really what it is is that it's an all time great cast of characters.
There's a couple of superfluous ones the way, like like mean mercenary alien man
and the new Blue Lady who's not as nice? The DLC character, well,
who's that? Oh the Prothean. Do remember the word Prothean? Yeah
that I remember the word Prithian. But still, this was a very very
exciting play through, and like you know the thing with the suicide mission all
that, it was kind of fun and it was deep to think like,
oh, this is gonna be so dangerous. I have to do it so
I make sure everybody lives, right, m Yeah. I think this was
the game that made mess effects something that even if it has a hit every
now and then, it's not gonna go way Oh is mass effect three?
Thank you Cody, Okay, thanks, I'm not sure what it was to
do then, right? Yeahs good Miranda, Miranda Tally and chats and Miranda
last it was my sexual awake a character, but yes, an attractive one.
Something about that mesh suit. Yeah, the mess suit that was like
here is a butt, Like, here's just a friggin butt. Okay,
so yeah, two had consumed me who I can't even remember that as is
the one I was talking about. I don't yeah, okay, yes,
yeah, I mean you're right. The character is a huge part of it.
I think that everything just fits together really well, so that like you
always feel like you're having an impact on it everything you do. The uh
yeah, the suicide mission, like having all the character loyalty stuff, playing
that in a big way, and then like having oh, like sure you're
red blooded American, you're driven by wanting to have sex with these characters,
but that's going to have an effect on how these things play out as well,
so be careful and think about it. It's just like a really considered
game and a really fun game. And then I just love the setting and
the lore and the look and the the alien designs. Just everything about Mass
Effect really hit. It hit for me at that time, and then especially
going into mass Efect three after Mass Effect two. This is interesting, Jeff,
we talked about a little bit two nine to twenty ten. We are
both in the industry, as it were, we're like pretty low level,
but I see Epic Mickey came out this year, Like that was the first
preview event I ever went to was for Epic Mickey. So yeah, it's
kind of interesting thinking about the year like that. Yep, yeah, that's
right. Jeez. Uh, let's see beyond that, let's see what I
really well. I got one that I really really love. This is my
favorite one of the series, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. Yeah. I adore this
game. This is you know, it's it's one of those ones that like,
Okay, it's doing everything that Assassin's Creed has done good up to this
point, better than ever. I really like the setting, although I can
never remember which city of this one was this realm. This is Rome,
right, this is Rome. Yeah, that's right, because you get like
the like the wolf armor and stuff for Rome. Yeah, this is the
first one. I was like, hey, let's just do one big city.
Yes, and it's really well. It worked really well. It was
uh. And then just like the cool stuff, like the Brotherhood mechanics were
like, Okay, you're gonna have a whole bunch of assassins and you press
a button and you send them out on missions and they're gonna go do shit
and they're gonna bring you back shit and it's a little timer and depending on
how hard it is, it's like you're gonna have a chance to lose them,
and it's like that people have seen the system before in games, but
this is like the first time I saw it, and it's just like it's
like this fun little thing to manage in between doing other fun stuff, and
it's just, I don't know, made the game feel so engaging every minute
that I was playing at fun. I remember when they first like talked about
this game, all they really talked about was the multiplayer mode. Oh,
they're making a multiplayer spin off because it's not called Assassin's Creed three, And
multiplayer mode actually was surprisingly fun. But then it had this single player mode
that really was just as good, batter even than what came before it,
And it was nice that it was able to build off the existing character right
instead of completely going to a new one like they did from one to two.
Yeah, I think brother. You know, when you ask people what's
the best excuse me, sess his Creed Ever, Yes, I had it
right, I think two brother. I mean, brotherhood comes up all the
time, and I understand I get why so many people say too, because
it like really does nail down a lot of these things. But brotherhood,
brotherhood, I think, I hope, so Brotherhood now yeah, cool.
I mean the right it is. It is the better game for sure.
What else you got, Mike? If you don't, I think this is
you don't hate den Redemption one like you do too, not at all.
I actually love Red Dead Redemption One. I thought that this game was incredible.
I've always been a little cool on Grind Theft Auto. I think that
this game took itself just a little bit more seriously in a way that allowed
me to get into it more. I think the wild West stuff was fun.
The story beats really hit with me. I thought that the main character
was a super likable protagonist. You know, there's just moments, right like
that moment where you do go to Mexico for the first time and you just
kind of have this long horse ride and it just organically plays that one song.
That was one of the coolest video game moments I ever experienced at that
point. I loved that this was an incredibly memorable play truth for me,
and it was sort of my favorite open world game for a long time.
I enjoy Red Dead Redemption I don't like adore it or anything, but I'm
completely fine with it. I do not hate it at all, and it's
got a cool, cool vibe, cool style, cool characters. I get
it. I never beat it. Let's see, I would probably personally go
with pac Man Championship Edition D X. I. This is an incredible game.
This is like one of those ones that really figured out, Okay,
how do we take a retro game update that we had had some of this
before, but this one really fucking nailed it. It's got How different is
this from just normal Championship edition? This this is like the one that had
all of the extra awesome modes in it. That really this is the one
that, like, I think people played a ton of more champions that's his
average score on Xbox or sixties A ninety three. Admit a critic. Wow,
Yes, this is one of the best rated games of the year that
year. Like it was critically well received because it was it was truly great
and then a ton of people are playing it at great score chasing leaderboard stuff.
Yeah. Pac Man Championship Edition DX is truly awesome stuff. I played
this game for hours and hours at a time, just could not stop playing
it. This is the thing that like at the time when people were playing
the stuff like Red Dead, Redemption or still playing Call of Duty, and
I played a lot of Call of Duty. This is the other game I
was playing. It is Championship Edition d X. Speaking about fun open world
games like I did in Bill Mcgofest Assassins, I mean, well with the
assass Creep Brotherhood and read their redemption. Yeah, I think open home games
are really coming to their own. We had Just Cause to this year,
actually, which it feels like it didn't even really hit that strong in twenty
ten, and then this became like the steamsale game for a decade. Yeah
sure, yeah, everyone hit this up, like this game is so much
fun. Even made two sequels to it eventually, I think one of them
as well, like enough, But I don't know. I still think about
Just Cause two a lot for just being this really fun, ridiculous sandbox action
game. It was a ton of fun. I played this game. I
remember liking it a ton, but it's like I'm trying. I remember very
specific parts of it, but I remember like really enjoying it. I guess
I remember the intro more than anything. It's Got of War three. I
didn't play God of War two, and then when I got my hands on
a PS three Got of War three, I think It's one of the first
things I ended up playing, and I really liked this game. I think
they kept doing great stuff with the sense of scale. I think the combo
system was as good as it ever was. It was just as absurd in
its story as it ever was. I think God of War three is really
good. It is. I was getting a little over it at that point.
Especially the characterization of Crazos is just you know, oh yeah, definitely
murder Man for sure. But you're right, it was it's like, how
are they gonna have a threesome this time? Yeah, And the scale of
it was incredible, right, Like even just some of the opening stuff being
on the back of the Titans and all that. I still remember that.
So yeah, definitely a lot going for God of War three. You know,
I like Split Second a lot, Jeff. I think this is one
of the most underappreciated games of the year for sure. It's Split Second is
basically kind of like Burnout, but like more Hollywood, right, Like I
said, of the cars, you're setting off like buck Buckheimer Bruckheimer explosions for
your opponents and just like disaster movie stuff. Uh. It was a ton
of fun. I would kill it to get a sixth the FPS version of
this game today. I think about split second all the time, probably way
more than most people do. I got it up there. I could probably
pick a couple more. But should we see what the the podcast producers thing
or do you have one? Or to you more you want to add yourself
take. I'm curious see if that the podcast producers will kind of bring up
some of these other ones that I'm either thinking about or am like a little
not as hot on as some people. I want to see what they think.
Yeah, okay, sounds good. I'm just like looking through the list
one more time. All right, let me get that up. There'll just
be a second everybody, Actually, but I think I should have it ready
to go. I just got to reframe it. Okay, I should be
filling in this dead air for you, but I got I bet I am
drinking twelve dogs of Christmas sales. I have it. I just got to
frame it up in obs. Yeah, no worries. Uh, okay,
let's see here there we go, all right? From a Nick Turbo,
I picked up a used Xbox three sixty copy of Mass Effect two from Game
Stop and it changed my life forever. You will not believe how much I
love not only this game, but the franchise as a whole. Yeah,
people don't just like Mass Effect too. People love this game. This is
a lot of people whose like favorite game most. I'm not necessarily mine,
but like my brother AJ is one of his, and I could totally understand.
This is the game why people, This is the reason people still care
about Mass Effects in a lot of ways. Oh yeah, this game is
like the one that's like propping up the entire franchise. I mean, obviously
among the fandom, people will talk about really lucky in the original Mass Effect
in some ways more than Mass Effect two or something about that I do appreciate
more. But I totally get why Mass Effect two is like the game in
that series. Yep, Casual says, tropical, tinted hyjiinks and a grab
hook that grapples to everything. What more could you possibly ask for? Just
Cause too, there's a little bit of like almost Breath of the Wild stuff
in terms of just being able to fuck around in this game and find out
And it was really neat. Yes, the sandbox, the elements of Just
Cause were really realized here. Alex says, y'all are screwed this year.
We're all going to be mad at you. Several of my favorite entries in
favorite series came out this year, but not much can stand up. Excuse
me to fall Out New Vegas and Mass BacT two for me ten out of
ten, perfection for both of them. Yes, this is a shout out
to Kingdo Parts. It pains me not to choose it. Mike, how
are you about Fallout New Vegas. I've never Vegas this year. I've never
really played it. I kind of started it and I meant to keep playing
it, but I need to fix that. Yeah, New Vegas needs to
be strongly considered. New Vegas is incredible. It's the best of the fall
games. The only thing that ever went against it was that it launched kind
of buggy, right, That's why I never played because it's like the reviews
are bad at the time, and then I never got back around to it.
But no, it's all the stuff that I really want from a Fallout
game, right, like like that old school again stop Bethesdas of City.
But the idea you walk in direction, you're going to find it a million
things. There's a lot of different choices that you can make, so it's
a great side question. Just Vegas itself as a setting for one of these
is great. You know, I'm not the one person who will say this
is the best Fallout game. I think a lot of people agree, and
there's a reason for that. It rules. Like in fact, I have
like, of all the games, you're like, oh, I haven't played
this, bubble, yes, I Vegas is one that I think you should
play the most. It's kind of at the top of my list, all
right, Jackie G says super meat Boy, and that's definitely one I was
thinking about putting up there, So I'm glad someone said it. Ye're trying
to super high on that as some people. I like it a lot.
Uh. In fact, the two people I forget their names, but the
people who made that they they they were They guessed it on me and AJ's
podcast back when it was like nothing, Yeah, bunzies. It was kind
of sweet of them. You know, we were nobodies, but back then,
so yeah, you know, this was definitely a big game at the
time. Not necessarily I like it. It's not something I think is super
high on my list, but it was fun stuff. I like Super me
Boy enough that it might be near my personal top five for twenty ten,
but I don't ask. I'll I'm not like holding the torch for it to
the point where I'm like, I'm going to try to force it on this
list in any way. Jamie H. Christmas Eve. My personal pick is
Deadly Premonition. It's another one I've never played. For some me it's a
ten, and for others most people, it's a two. A quirky story
with great characters that's definitely not inspired by Twin Peaks. My love for Suit
of fifty one and No More Heroes is equalled by Sweary sixty five in this
game. It really is one of those must play games, but not in
the same way as the other games that will actually make this list. I
love that ten out of ten from Destructing in the Box. Yep, you
don't hear from destructiit as much these days. Not if you're worrying for DESTRUCTOI.
It don't mean to mindustry you, but just say Destructor is a like
one of the top outlets. It feels like around twe Yeah. I still
include their news stories in GMM every once in a while. Ranus Basketball Jason
Yelling Simulator twenty ten aka Heavy rain. I guess that's how I know this
is the year that we went to packs because I got off the pack train
and everyone was going, Jason, Yep, this was it. Yeah,
I've played through this game. Was not really a big fan of not really
what I'm looking for. Oh, not enough singing animals, miked weird game,
Lenny Cool. Dick Dember says, I'm here early enough to state the
obvious Bad Company two was also pretty fun online, and the obvious being Super
Mario Galaxy two. Yes, very god. That poster is great. Yeah,
it's good. I love that flying Yoshi. Yeah, Screaming Madden says
I forgot to mention. Last year was the debut of Madden Ultimate Team,
which totally came back from madd An NFL twenty eleven while also having ac DC's
Thunderstruck in the ost. But my other pick is actually called Duty Black Ops
because you could shoot zombies as either JFK, Robert McNamara, Fidel Castro,
and Mary Kish's favorite American Tricky Dick. I think it's incredible that Robert McNamara
is in a fucking video game. That is so that was a well liked
Call of Duty. I mean, I like Black Ops a lot. Yeah,
but yeah, it definitely is one of the better ones for sure.
I didn't care about Zombies mode though personally I never did show g Coto my
side ain't chosen, my side was given. That's for Red Dead Redemption.
I yeah, I get it. Yeah. Joy Z says, remember when
rock Star made games that didn't feel a complete ass to play? Also probably
my favorite post game content in any game, Red Dead Redemption ps. Allen
Wake one is underrated and Children of the Elder Gods rules that was twenty ten
as well. Is this Allan Wake one year? How about that? This
is Alan Wake one year? I like Alan Wake one. I think more
than most people there are effects. Something's about Allen Ike one. I do
like more than Allen Wake two. I think that the kind of basic,
the general gameplay and the shooting and stuff like that felt better to me in
Allen Lake one. I think there's a time to like about that game.
Flobotron says, GTA clones where a dime a dozen back then, but some
actually stood out. I recently played through Mafia two again and I'm still in
love with it. Fantastic crime drama in a unique setting and doing something decidedly
different compared to GTA. I tried to get in a g to Mafia two
so hard. I was like, I'm gonna try this. I got a
press account for on Live where that's how, and that's how I played Mafia
two. I think I still have like a video of me like sending gameplay
to Facebook on Facebook or whatever from on Live. But yeah, Mafia two
never quite did it for me. But I know a lot of people really
did like that game and collecting the Playboy magazines or whatever. The crisis well
five says, So I know the real answers are Red Dead, Fallout in
New Vegas and Mass BacT two. But I wanted to shout up Mega Man
ten. I know Mikey loves nine, but I've always preferred ten's level design
and music much more. Solar Man stage is probably my favor every classic Mega
Man level of all time. I like ten as well. Yeah, I
like ten a lot. I think nine is a bit better. And you
know, going back to that same exact well again, yeah, you know,
having proto Man and bass Playabowl was nice. I think I would have
preferred if maybe at least brought the slide back again, just making it exactly
like Magne two. Get sure it was all fun. Hey, if you
want to just make Megama games like that every year, I wouldn't complain.
It was fantastic, and I do like that poster a lot by them.
Yes, it's really good. I take nine over it. Terariaki bluesays not
top five worthy, but when I first saw it at the infamous twenty ten
Kunami press conference, I got obsessed with Castlevania Harmony of Despair. Playing Caslvania
on a giant map with five on their other people is super fun. It
has a killer soundtrack, and at Level, which is the entire map in
bosses from the first Castlevania, I sunk a lot of hours making my Soma
character unstoppable. I wish Konami would bring it back. Gra if we could
just play this now on Steam or something, that'd be something that'd be really
cool. Gonna try to look into that. Doom. Middle Crossing says Nintendo
had had such a bangor year in twenty ten, all topped off by the
incredible Metroid Other I'm sorry, I can't even finish that sentence lmao. But
in all seriousness, twenty ten showed that retro Studios wasn't just a one trick
pony with the Prime trilogy and pumped out an incredible two D platform or revival
in the forum of Donkey Kong Country Returns. Even in a post Tropical Freeze
world, I think the first game still holds up and stands on its own.
I like Returns, but I didn't fall in love with it. Yeah,
Tim same a Tropical Freeze to be fair, To be completely honest,
Villa maxis StarCraft two the first time I used YouTube tutorials to learn pro strategies
and the first esport I went to see in person. Yeah, especially a
Blizzard guys. I am never got super crazy to StarCraft two or even StarCraft
to be on this, I'm just it's funny because Blizzard was first and foremost
and RTS studio for a long time, and I'm not really a big artsys
person despite my love for Blizzard. I'm gonna be curious when a Starcrest three
happens, which I feel may be imminent. Matt Rare Monkey formally Rare,
Matt rat Monkey formally Rare says Fallout New Vegas Josh Sawyer never misses truly one
of the best games ever made Assassin's Creed Brotherhood peak at CEO Assassin's Creed Dark
Siders, it was the dark Zelda game everyone wanted Nintendo to make. That's
right, A Nervous dn DL see for Bioshow too, truly some of the
best storytelling in games. If you haven't played it, go and do it
now. It's only three hours long. And then Super Mario Galaxy too.
The running around is very good. Yeah, I should at some point play
Nervous den as somebody who likes that original BioShock flavor a lot. And I've
always heard about how good it was. Dark Siders never did much for me.
I have to admit. Eden X says, if I don't nominate it,
I think Sean is going too. So I'm going. I'm going.
I'm going. I'm making him be more creative Super street Fighter for yeah,
I mean we gay street Fighter for some love, and this is the better
version of it, of course and better. Hey, this is where Jerry
came from, so that's from them. Like making the one kind of sticky
character in a post Street Fighter two world really right with character jury jury sticky?
Do you say sticky character? Yeah? Yeah? Against Okay, you
know, not everything has to be about like feet on all right, I'm
waiting for Ultra, That's all I want to say. JD Camps his Baby
Sitting Mama came out in twenty ten and gave us cool Baby, Like I
said, Cool Baby Bench JC, the best three D mar game and absolute
masterpiece. Super Mario Galaxy two, jed Amos four, Red Steel two needs
no explanation, of course, not I watch I could play it. I
want to play it. Tommy Pencil says this might sound weird, but twenty
ten was one of the best years in games. I could list over thirty
games that I love that came out that year, but instead I'll send a
shout out to the to the all the sickos for Deadly Premonition. Yeah,
you know what I'm going into this. I didn't think this was some like
hallmark year. But there's a lot of very very very good game. Yeah,
there's a lot of like iconic game from this year. Mister Bowler says,
Super Mario Galaxy Too is the right answer. Halo Reach Bungies is Bungie's
swan song of the Halo series said people are going to get mad at me,
but I like Halo Reach was maybe the first tailor game actually played through
all the way and I was like, that's fine. Everybody, Max says,
nine hours, nine persons, nine Doors on the DS is a fantastic
escape room game that had engaging puzzles in writing that smartly utilized every aspect of
the DS for some amazing twists and turns. I know people love this guy
never played it. It's a pretty It was a visual novel. Okay,
so what is it? What is a scape room game? It is good.
Most of the time you're escaping in a room, so it makes sense
that people that's like a combination of too. There's a little right, Okay,
yes, it is like the visual novel, right, that's that's that's
what I thought. Yeah, this is a part of a trilogy called in
our Game. You can get all those games super cheap. No, they
they're really good. It's super commendum, Spoon, Heaven's jug Band, Christmas
is Mary Christmas, Mike and Jeff twenty Ten's Best is the game I'd love
to see ported to the Switch Super Mario Galaxy too. We got to give
up that hope, that's not gonna happen. It was going to use everybody
here Adam says, the game of the year from twenty ten is the Nintendo
DS visual novel zero Escape, nine Hours, nine Person's nine Doors, or
simply nine nine nine the story. You're not going to read all that,
but I just want to say. They have a picture, they're collection from
the director here. They have all sorts of stuff for this game. Man,
this is maybe the biggest nine nine nine fan in the world. I
think a bunch of their other games too. I suppose this director pretty neat.
Yeah, there's this like a This is like a series. I think
there's a bunch of games after nine nine nine. I think the people as
well. Yeah, two more right, Yeah, yeah, I don't remember
the names. No, I'm blanking on the name. We just called the
ninary games. You buy it, miss just whenever you want to buy nine
nine nine. You can't buy it by yourself. You have to buy the
three of them nowadays. What's that a series that everyone was playing in the
discord a little bit ago because it was on Xbox. Is that similar?
Yes it is. They have similar veins. Yes, always be clothing.
Slash Corky says Mass Effect two. I know will be covered, So I'll
go with the Assassin's Creed Brotherhood. Hey, that was covered as well.
Being able to build your own squad of assassins was one of the most fun
some of the most fun I've had with ac same here uh see. Octo
says, listen, a lot of great games, but one of the best
is still Ghost Trick. Go play the remaster. So Ghost Trick is Japan
twenty ten, US January twenty eleven, So don't worry. I will talk
about Ghost Trick when we do twenty eleven. Octo also mentions Radiant Historia.
Is that a twenty ten game? I don't know, but Rain Story is
very high on my j RPG backlog. It's the game that people say has
very intense crunch trigger vibes. It's atlas. I love it. I really
want to get to it. Tokyo Game Life says Pokemon Haart Gold and Soul
Silver is so good that even the people who hate Pokemon the most aka Pokemon
fans almost unanimously agree that this game is amazing. It was the r R
E four remake Capital R of twenty ten. I can see I get that,
I did that. It is It's very good. I mean, Lukia
is an awesome Pokemon. Oh fine, but Lukia is such a cool looking
Pokemon that is like a top tier Pokemon for sure. I don't know what
it is even. Pokemon two thousand, the movie, it's all about Lugia.
Team Rocket does a face turn in it for a bit, slow king,
isn't it and he talks God, I want to watch Pokemon two thousand,
Sean, can we watch Pokemon two thousand. We'll watch Pokemon two thousand,
Well, fucking film in forties, Pokemon the movie two thousand. Oh,
I kind of want to go through the movie because I only ever saw
the first two. I think three had like anti or whatever. Yeah,
you see, then you get Jo saying Henta Mike three three secretly the best
one. Nobody. I want to see it. Maybe we can, maybe
maybe we do these actually for giant bomb or something to get there. Yeah,
we'll see, we'll see. It'll be fun. The MINAUGHTI watch out
they that's right there. Long Gift says, I love Red Dead nine nine
nine and Mass Effect too, but neier Gestalt had a most profound effect on
me. Let's see. Dirk says Spider Man Shattered Dimensions. Maybe not the
best of twenty ten, but a great game. It's also written by Dan
Slott, who used the idea in twenty fourteen to write the Spider Verse comic
Interesting. Michael Riley says, Halo Reach Baby Girl is Halo Reach Baby Girl.
I suppose it is. Isaac Clark says, Pokemon Heart gold and Soul
silver. Doctor Doctor Ryan mentions, let's see Dark Siders a perfect blend of
God of War and the Legend of Zelda with a surprise portal level. It
stole from everything, and it did it in the most charming way possible.
That is how I remember this game being described, Doctor Ryan days in Man
too, I don't, I don't. I think I played a little bit
of Dark Sis. I actually never really played through it, though. Days
a Man says, I got a shout out this fantastic game for introducing me
to the dragon Quest series. That's dragon Quest nine Sentinels of the Starry Skies.
This was my first one as well, and I like this game a
ton as I plays before. I really liked Dragon Quest and did like it.
I didn't beat it. I want to go back to day Oh.
So, I think one of the best subtitles ever. Sentinels of the starry
skies. That does sounds good. It's it's singsong Gye. I like it
a lot. Yeah, bikes and Bruce says the best mass effect mass effect
game, which is Mass Effect two. Vision forty nine says the opening of
God of War three is still one of the craziest action set pieces I have
ever seen in a game. Big flexes in the games are more intimate now,
like realistic reflections, realistic rope physics, or a well animated hug.
But man, the icon battles of Final Fantasy sixteen felt like the first time
a game is shot for this kind of skill and spectacle in a long time.
Bugadillo says Dorito's crash course too, since this game turned me into a
leaderboard's pervert. Helliet is that is that an avatar? Or is that just
like a proto avatar? Because maybe had avatars on the three sixties, right,
Yeah, yeah, totally did, but it happened at some point.
It's the three sixties weird because I liked the aesthetics of that console way more
when it launched, and by the time it was done, I was like,
the menus look way worse. I don't like these avatars. Everything looks
kind of cheap and lame by the end. Yeah, well, getting my
three sixty before ride to Hell, Like you load it up and it's like,
here's a bunch of avatars to pick from. I'm like, oh,
what the fuck is this? Two time champ b Fammer says, apparently twenty
ten is the year of sequel, So here's one more. Dead Rising two
the pretty universal choice for best in the series. I didn't play. I
didn't I'm weird. The only Dead Rising game I really played a whole lot
of was Dead Rising three, which I liked, to be honest, Yeah,
I like that Rising one a lot. And Andngoldie a game that won't
make a list but deserves to mention. NBA two K eleven probably the best
basketball game. The Jordan Challenge is so much fun and bonus, you get
peak Lebron James. No grub, this is not the one with the ghosts.
Thank you. I was going to ask, yeah, thank you people
talking about this one. Actually yeah, definitely. I mean NBA two K
was like really coming into its own at this point and like taking over sports
gaming. Adam GC, here's three quick bangers for you. Cave Story,
peace Walker, and pac Man Championship Edition d x Walker this year. I
like peace Walker. I think the PSPNIS of it hurt it a little bit,
but also impressive that you can have a pretty substantial middle gear solid experience
on PSP. Sure I like it. I don't know if I love peace
Walker. Service Kin says just Cause two is one of their favorite games of
all time. Willow Davis says Pokemon amazing follow up to gin Form Pay's respects
to the best. Also, Halo Reach Ribbicks says StarCraft two it's a beast
of an RTS that only brought esports to the public in a big way.
It's also the reason Twitch is what it is. Is Hammond of Texas's Battlefield
Bad Company too. This game is one of the most play is one of
my most played games ever, and arguably one of the last entries in the
Battlefield series or less good entries. I should say. I was very sad
to see EA officially turn off the servers and kill this game just a short
while ago. I wish I could go back and play this game, because
I did miss this and it seems like something I would enjoy quite a lot.
They said they would used to wipe people while playing on their two thousand
and nine thirteen inch MacBook pro of dual booting into Windows seven. That's a
pretty good job, apparently, I said PS, but I said PSP is
sound a lot like I said PS penis. And look I was letting it
go. I was proud of myself for restraining. And then here we are.
What's too funny to me Ed says Black Ops Baby Black Ops. Allen
Lake as well deck the halls with bops of Holly's is Hard gold and Soul
silver, and in typical game freak fashion, they decided to never follow this
formula again with any of the remakes that followed. Yeah, sorry about that,
let's see Doctor Lynch also mentions bad Company too, warning Cliffe mentions Limbo.
No one said that one yet. Yeah, it was good. I
don't know if it's gonna make my list. I like the Limbo Gunk days,
says fall Out New Vegas. Ali Miracle says Capcom owned my ass this
year between me grinding out and placing in Totsnoko versus Capcom. Also, Frank
West says Dead Rising in this for a special move. Also, Monster Hunter
try was this was the start of my downfall for Monster Hunter with online.
Oh yeah, that very silly pro controller. Oh yeah, Trice like secretly
late probably the best Monster Hunter. This is really good. Adam Juice says
me too. With Mass Effect two really likes that one. Rt Bick says
got a shout out super meat Boy. Zube Mr says I did not get
into zeld until I was all grown up and had a three DS. What
a series before Breath of the Wild ruined it for sure, let's see cast
Coder says birth by Sleep is the obvious choice made me actually get some use
out of my PSP for an actual PSP game. Sorry, what what is
this comment talking about? I don't wrong thread? It probably might be the
wrong thread. I don't know. We'll try to get next time. It'll
be okay. Cascoder says birth by Sleep is the obvious choice. Made me
actually get some uside of my PSP, and Jeff agrees with me. Of
course I do Birth by Sleep. What a great name. Klink says,
just one more turn Civilization five. That is a very good SIP game.
I was very good. I was waiting to see if anyone would bring it
up. I'm glad at least one person has Civilization five is fantastic, uh
Impanada Eater. Skate three is one of my all time favorite chillout games,
and a lot of people love Skate three, and then Christian says, this
GRP, Pierre, this GRPG has one of the weirdest combats paired with one
of the weirdest takes on the steampunkt aesthetics. Residents of Fate from the entire
entire world is like on top of gears, like every every every castle and
every and it's like on top of a gear, which is pretty funny remastered.
Christian, Yeah, you Gotmaster four, k or PS five and PC
really so like recently No, I don't know, maybe it was for PS
four. Sorry. Yeah, it's like it's pretty good. I play you
the region, it on PC, it is on Steam. Yeah, pretty
interesting. Okay, yeah the company is too. I'll show you later.
I need to show you. Look at this. Residence of Fate is twenty
one dollars right now on Steam. Brian Rose is Pokemon Hard Golden Soul Silver
is probably one of the best remix ever, so I have to pick that,
but also shout out to Dragon Quest nine. Uh yeah, definitely,
all right, Mike, let's see open first one, three, three,
There much skate between the No we have not all right, let's see here.
I'll frame this up again. All right, what are we adding from
the community. I gotta wait for your thing to catch up so I can
see what is missing. Sure, give me a second Vegas, right,
Yeah, we have new Vegas on there, for sure. New Vegas is
important, for sure. Uh. There was a lot of hard, gold,
soul, silver love. Absolutely. Otherwise, I'm not sure if,
like I'm trying to think of, there was anything people brought up at Allen
Wake one. I could maybe take a bit of a case for it.
It's gonna be tough because there were a lot of big games this year.
Otherwise, of the people are generally agreeing with some of our big heavy hitters.
I mean Civilization five I think could actually be considered. Yeah, I
was kept with Civilization five. Up. U there, Yes, Civilization five.
I thought there was one earlier on Let me check these comments again,
miss glazed through it Gate, but u A, let's see here to definitely
premonition, there was a surprisingly large amount of nine nine nine love. But
uh, yeah, because I think you know that people love those games.
Yeah, it's really good. It's one of the best vicial novels. I
really like to go back to and check out at some point in my life.
Yeah. Also, he has like, unlike other visual novels were like
it's kinda slug to go through, like the beginnings of it. This one
like it starts right away, like you have to get out of like a
sinking boat, like right away. It's pretty good. It gets you liking
the game play right away. So we got a super cheap from Matt Rare
Mucky, who offered up Bayonetta, Vanquish three D dot game here, Cush
to the West, Scott Pilgrim Versus the World, Uh, Monday Night Combat,
and cart Life. Those are all good games. I don't know if
I like Vanquish a lot, but I'm I don't know. I think it'll
be tough to get on that I played it. I've been meaning to and
never did. I will say I do not like that Scott Pilgrim game.
I think that game is very overrated. I don't like the way that feels
for beat him up. But everything I'll there. I liked Monday. I
liked Super Monday Night Combat, which I think almost nobody played and it did
not last long. Oh well, okay, let's see here, Mike.
Let's go over what we have for the audio listeners. Pokemon Haart, Gold,
Soul, Silver, Super Mario Galaxy To Mass Effect, to Assassin's Creed
Brotherhood, Red Dead, Redemption, pac Man Championship Edition, DX, Just
Caused two, God of War three, Split Second, Fallout, New Vegas,
Civilization five good games this year, Yes, there are there's a lot
of such a x X, such an Xboxery sixty era, really a yeah,
Arial Galaxy. This is when, like my life was kind of dominated
by my Xboxery sixty for sure. Same here. Yeah, I was playing
a ton of three sixty. I was playing a ton of Black Ops and
pac Man, and then Super Mario Galaxy two would like break that up a
little bit and Civilization five SATs, Creed Brotherhood got I mean, okay,
I played a lot of games this year that was you know, there's a
lot of just great stuff, Mike. I I kind of think that Super
Mario Galaxy two could probably just be number one. Will be good, but
I don't know, what do you think? I mean, the one I
would maybe put above it is Red Den Redemption, and I don't think I'm
going to talk you into that. Yeah, I'm okay with it being number
two though, if that's fine for you. I think that makes sense.
Actually, Okay, Okay, that's good. Let's do this. And I
think mass Effect two has got to be in there, and I would be
very happy with that at number three. I love Mass Effect too, and
really love Mass Effect two. God, I really wish I had time for
that legendary edition. I came out, I played a little bit of it,
and I just couldn't justify and continuing to play it. I was having
a great time playing through Mass Effect one again, honestly, and then yep,
same here. Yep, it plays really good on the steam deck too,
so it's like I should just play it. Got two slots left I
love so I love Superro Galaxy to in mass Effect two and feel very good
about having those on the list. The last game for me personally would be
pac Man Championship Championship Edition DX. That's one of my favorite games of all
time. Put it in, and I think my the other one that I
because there's really one where that I feel really strongly about still being in here.
You know, I like allize other games and that would be Fallout New
Vegas to be honestly, okay, great, yeah, honest, and that
looks like the right one based on the way people talk about it. But
again it's very and even that order. Gosh that this is surprisingly easy actually
because I like that. I think that looks very good. I know it's
good too. God, those are some good games and the games that got
left off. But hey, Pokemon, we get it. We're sorry.
No, i'd be look, I'll say, but it is very very very
very good. It would I would. If it was my top five,
maybe I would put up their Brotherhood could have been there too. Yeah,
Brotherhood is more right up there for me. But man, yeah, there's
a lot of games, but I still have a lot of very good games
about that. Uh, let's put Bad Company to number one. There.
Still I've got I want to play Bad Company too. Okay, there we
go. So our list right now is number five, pac Man Championship Edition,
DX, Fallout New Vegas, Mass Effect two, Red Dead, Redemption
to at number two, and then number one is Super Mario Galaxy to Mike
Relocking that in. I think that's right. I think that looks very good
to me. Those are five I know it may sound like I didn't play
as much Championship Edition as you, and it's true, but I still also
really liked it. It's very good. It had fun ton of juice,
right yeah, oh yes, it was like one of those games. It's
like redefining what juice could be in games. I think, yeah, absolutely,
Okay, let's do this and that's going to work. Just deal with
that bug on Twitter there. Sometimes I have to do that thing to get
a post to go, because it's a good website. Okay, all right,
Micha, let's stickup one more quick break and then we'll talk about what
we've been playing. Let's do that. We're back, Thanks for sticking with
us. We're going to talk about some super chats and then we'll talk about
what we've been playing. Mike, what does the chat have to say?
Yeah, let's see. Let's see where we left off over here. I
believe it is from elk Grug says, what's the best game coming out twenty
twenty four that hasn't been announced yet? Happy holidays, Rebel Mitch and BackRub.
I mean the good chants. It's gonna be whatever the next three D
Mario game is. I know whatever, like the Launch big launch game for
the Switches, probably a Mario game. Yep uh. Connor Wood says,
find the time for the h Bomber Guy New Vegas video. That's right.
I did watch it. It's one of the reasons I wanted to go play
it. It's very videos sas squatching, very generous, first time super chy
here. Thank you so much, one hundred dollars some sasquatching, Thank you
so much. Thank you. This is very expist. Remember kids play fall
Out New Vasas. I will, I absolutely will remember. Was like,
remember kids play fault in Vasis. It's remember kids play fall It's like,
I'm sure kids do. I don't know what I'm supposed to think about.
Thank you so much. Then Fergus says, Hey, not really able to
watch live, but I hope you guys have a great Christmas. PS Mike,
my wife thinks you're hilarious. Thank you. You know, I'm just
gonna say it, Okay, we get on. I get a surprisingly large
comount of comments. I was like, my wife likes you really bridging the
gap to the female audiences. Yes, you're you're number one in the housewife
demographic demographic. I think absolutely Yeah, I think that's absolutely one million percent
true. All right, that's a for supertestter. Now everybody yourself have time
to squeeze in a few more. We really appreciate it. Uh, Jeff,
what else said? You've been playing? I guess yeah, let's see
here. I uh, I played sweaky game, talked about that that.
Yeah, what would you think? What the fuck's wrong with all of you?
That's nothing, it's nothing. No, it's really good. It's physical.
The physics are great. That's what it is. Dropped things that they
roll around. Yeah, and it feels really really good. It feels truthful
in how the physics reacts. I thought that might get yet you always killed
me speaker game it truthful. Yeah, it's truthful. You know what it
is. It's like I appreciate a game that's like just simple but also very
sad. I know, I can't put it down, like so, I
don't know, and there's something there. I'm sure, like I get it.
It's fine. Just nothing about it was enough singing animals for yours.
It could hear some of I'm being honest, I get what I get.
My people picked up like what is this? But it's like no, no,
there's definitely something here, like something happening underneath the hood where uh,
when you drop something and then it bounces around in that satisfying way and then
the fruit is like squeezing up against each other and like a cherry pops out
because it's like squeezing in just the right way. I don't know, a
little satisfying, I guess, Okay, yeah, thanks thanks for just humoring
me there. I appreciate it. Say about your game for babies, I
don't. I also like that it's a game for babies because it's like there's
these pizza when you play it. Yeah, exactly. I hand it to
my kids, and I don't have to explain anything. That's really cool that
it's like one of those games there's like barely any text. It just is
all right there in front of you. And part of me is like,
oh yeah, that this is just a real fucking video game right here,
right. I like it a lot fun, fun, very much half fun,
I guess fair enough. I listened to Rocket Night Adventures. Is that's
the weirdo game podcast with with Rebec Yeah, Shah, I'll commiserate with her
absolutely, Yeah, but I haven't had time for too much else. Mostly
just kind of editing people's stuff for Game of the Year guest list, things
like that. You know, I think I said, like the Star Ocean
second story are was tried to be a little crazy if it's slow paced.
So I was like, I need to play I need to take a little
break and play something that's a bit more immediate. So I tried to slack
a game that didn't very low for me. I remember there's this Mega Man
clone that came out this year called Gravity Circuits that I meant to play.
Yeah, downloaded that and it's very good. It's definitely I didn't realize it
is very specifically going for a Mega Man zero thing, which is really neat.
It's Mega Man zero, although those games were game Boy Advanced games,
and the aesthetics here are way more game Boy color, so that's cool.
But instead of shooting, you kind of have punches instead. You also have
a grapple hook mechanic, which is a lot of fun. But just you
know, I love games that feel like Mega Man or it's just the really
precise two D platforming. It's just some good jump in and good action,
nice bosses. So it's just taking a lot of boxes from me. It's
definitely one of the better Mega Man inspired games I've played in a while.
And there's a ton of those for sure, but this is definitely way up
there. Yeah. I tried like a little bit of this and I liked
it, and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna set this sign and
probably play that at some point. I maybe should go back to it,
but I still want to play thirty xx a lot more than I did too.
Yeah, thirty xx is that mticularly fancy more just because of the whole
roguelike thing, which I get even this game. Not that there's a ton
of story stuff. There's a little bit of it, and even in like
the Mega Man Zeros games, I'm like, why do we need any of
this? But it's not a problem here for sure. I've also been playing
more Steam World Build on my Steam deck after starting on PC. I'm almost
through my first campaign with it. Game is really good with controller, actually
surprisingly good. It works really well. Yeah, I'm into more of the
tower defensie stuff, and it's very light tower defense. It's like, as
long as you set up your defenses, it's gonna tower defense exactly. Yes,
right, I don't And I'm like, I think there are more people
out there like you who are here that and they're like, well, then
I'm never going to touch us. And it's just it's not a tower defense
game. It just has some towers that defend, and then you also have
like your little army guys that will go out and fight stuff actively. So
that's happening too. It's not a Star Fucks Guard like, it's not.
It's not a Star Fox Guard like, although I'm sure like we're still waiting
for those that was so influential don't come any day now, but yeah,
it was. It's just it's just a really satisfying game still, Like at
a certain point, it is, Okay, I got to upgrade all of
these residential houses to be like the next tier up and then the next tier
after that, and they have so many specific needs to then go up to
the tier after that, and I've already built up so much of my city
that there's not a lot of room for things anymore, so I have to
be very selective of how I move things around. And thankfully that's still pretty
satisfying and not overwhelming. Although I'm like, I feel like I'm looking down
the barrel of a gun of like Oh, eventually this is going to be
overwhelming, So I wonder how they ride that line or if it's like,
once you get to that point, no, this campaign will be over and
then if you want to do it all over again, you go to the
next scenario and do it all over again. So we'll see. Hey,
you had you had Chris Persons on the Bombcat. At some point he was
talking about After Life, right, was the Lucas Arts weird city builder where
you're building in hell and they kind of like counterbalance each other. And I
also got that game. I came from one of those giant Lucas Arts like
CD collections, and I've been kind of want to play that, and that's
what I want to do. Oh, I'm very curious to check that out.
I bet, I bet I'll end up like liking that game a lot.
And then we played some Lethal Company would you think about Yeah, everybody
was screaming about it so much that I was like, ah, who knows
what, but but it was actually it was a lot of fun. Simple.
There was just a lot of a burge and silliness, especially with you
know, but as soon as people split up a little bit, because it's
just the way that the like real audio where here's somebody screaming in the distance
and it gets closer and closer to you. Yeah, teased by a spider.
It is just very funny. It's a really funny game, actually,
it turns out, and uh, the audio tech is something I just I
love that stuff in any game. So any game that makes that central to
the experience, I'm going to be have a soft spot for. I remember
doing a work there was among us like like, yeah, we did that
makes it work like that, Like, oh, this is better. I
like this game like that. Yeah, yes, exactly. So that was
a really good time. Okay, I'm gonna reveal you the secret mode I
put in your game when you were playing, and yeah, what's up.
Yeah, it was the skiing Walker mod that makes the monster copy the voice
of your teammates. So I've heard that a little bit here. I don't
think. I don't know if any of you experience it, but I know
for a fact that John did because we were watching his point of view and
oh he did. Yes, I didn't tell him. I just revealing this
now. He heard you around the corner talking and he's like, oh,
I'm going that way, and when he turned around he got killed by the
face hugger and he really yes, it's like yeah, and then a timestamp
for that. I want to see that. I'll show you. And then
and then he dies. He he started seeing you and you were on the
ship, and I think he didn't like even realize that he was a monster.
He was talking. Yeah. Times pretty fun. Yeah, I'll explain
that to jan that'll be fun. Uh. Yeah. I had a good
time with that, and I'm like, that's something I would want to play
again. And that's not always true. Like so I have a good time
playing multiplayer games on Giant Palm all the time. Like if I never play
that again, that's fine. Played Texas Chase on Baskers, like okay,
yeah, and Jane played a lot more of it. I'm like that,
that's cool. Sometimes I feel that way and sometimes I don't. It's a
freak, yeah of course. Yeah. It's never really a sort of negative
about the game. It's like, if it's good for one awesome multiplayer session,
I think that's a success in my book. I guess the people who
get games for free and they'll pay for them, sure, sure, sure,
yes, yeah, definitely yes. I mean but like some of these
games are like on game Pass. I think Texas Chainsaw Masacar was for a
very long time, but it's like yeah, whatever, However, however it
goes down, this one's like, no, I want to go back to
I was almost like I'll just go maybe I'll just go Solo Q or something
like that. I don't know. Uh, but yeah, that's uh,
that's a good time, all right, Mike. Any other games? No,
No, I'm looking at these Steam sales a little little bet. There's
a couple of things I'm maybe thinking about. Their Midnight Suns is pretty cheap
actually, so who knows. Uh, But uh no, there's so many
things I still need to catch up on, to be honest. So yeah,
I'm sorry. We'll get to the rest of the superchets here in a
second. Christian. It was because of the shovel in my pocket. That's
why the lightning got me. Yes, it was. It was so frustrating
because I walked all the way in no sparks. You were sparking. I
saw it, and I didn't say a thing. I was like, I
guess he knows. Wait, when when did you see it? Wasn't it
You were like in the ship and you were sparking and lightning was striking you,
but it was hitting the ship insteads Yes, like the ship, so
it's okay. Then you left out, and I was thinking, that's probably
not a good idea. He's gonna get hit by lightning. And then you
did and I did not get hit by lightning. Then it was much much
later because I walked u because I walked in all the way in, never
sparked, walked all the way out, and then I was sparked because I
was holding an engine and then I drop it and then the lightning would hit
the engine, and then I pick it up and I carried it. I
carried it all the way back to the ship, like dropping it every five
feet because it was kept hitting in. Sometimes i'd hit it back to back,
and so I'm like, okay, I'm not getting it. But it
must have been because it was like I had this much more attractive thing next
to me that the lightning was actually hitting. And then I put it in
there and then I'm like, okay, Mike's still in there. I'll go
get him. I walked out ten feet and of course I get hit l
of me, yes, vaporized into dust. I thought you how you knew
I died too, because like I die, not like you know what,
I never even saw you. Yeah, yeah, I was wild. Jeff,
what happened that one time you went flying into the air. That was
the first time we encountered the lightning, and I, uh, I was
like, I'm just going to make a run for it, and I hoped
for the best. I'm like, I don't really know what's going to happen,
so I'm going to carry this engine back and I just ran and I
saw it sparking, but I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna go for
it. Maybe I can get there before it'll hit me. I have no
idea how long it's going to take. And then just halfway there, bang
it hits me and I just go immediately flying up, and Jan's like what
happened? And I'm then and he just had so good from his point of
view. A followed, He's like, what's that? You're like a shooting
star. I do think the time that I vaporized, I technically also did
get flown in the air, but it was so fast and so far I
might as well have been vaporized. Okay, Yeah, that's pretty that's a
good game that's a fun was like we need. Yeah, I'll probably be
looking to play a game like that over the holiday or something. We'll see
were can make that happen? All right, we saw the record of Columbers
out there list thanks for watching everybody, Mike, Oh yeah, super chats
Sye, I hit those real quick. Dean Boy says sorry for double lighting
you all on Tuesday ninety six games, and then Chi Biling Cheeban says,
just got here. Hello from the past, Hello past chef. You're getting
a trouble. We were gonna think those are real cigarettes. We're gonna get
to monetized. You cal them down with those I know you both loved Rosie
before remake. Curious if you played it on PlayStation VR two yet. If
not, it is phenomenal at Christmas. No, because one I don't have
PSVR two, and two I get a little sticky from VR. Looks fun,
though, I should try that out. I don't know. I don't
have PSVR two, but maybe I could track one down. All right,
I'm gonna hit this button. I think it's what we're doing next week.
You think we're gonna do a podcast next Thursday. In the twenty eighth it
could happen. We're not it could happen. We're actually your podcast. We'll
see if I have like really free be able to just drive up and we'll
do that. Then if we'll do that the week after sounds good, we'll
figure out. We'll let you all know. Don't definitely don't count on the
ten dogs. That's not gonna happen. That will be after Christas we're going
to be busy, but Thursday we might have a game. Mess decides.
We'll let you know. We'll keep you posted, all right, Mike,
where can people find you on the internet? Tokodo, Thanks for watching,
everybody. It was a good year. It was a good year. Have
fun over here in game Messa. We did have fun, didn't we think
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you next time. Don't piece on the egg. Now, let me be
getting louder instead of quieter. No, no, no, it already got
louder. Okay, I don't have anything. Bye bye, break brick,
brick brick. Do you want to shift? Jump back in? Do you
want to go to the broom? Yeah, let's let's do it. We'll
hop right back in. All right, Okay, let's go. I'm gonna
taken. Oh am you deck shut up? Listen doesn't work. I just
love my EMU lads and my EMU lads. I'm gonna call him that.
The name was did you know Gaming? I thought you were saying, did
you know gaming? I was like, is that a digimon thing? What?
No? No, did you know game? I just said that that's
AOD idea for a new channel. No one steal that TM okay, Well,
mostly worked in festivals. My favorite part of festivals the I really don't
like any of you. I got a lot of problems with you people.
Yeah, oh yeah, I got a lot of problem with you. Oh
that guy Jerry Steeler, what a what a what a night? Absolutely everything
he did I rained blows down upon him about that every day. I love
it. I love it, like like, oh, he's so good at
doing that like thing where he's like trying to remember shit. It's like,
I no, he's actually trying to remember his line. It's like it's like,
Oh, that's genius. You want a piece of me? You got
it, you got that. Piston pants are chanting sell the team during tonight's
game, Matt ra Monkey. Yeah, I'm not surprised. I think they
won their first two games and they have it won sense and that's like thirty
games are getting close to it. I mean, I'm glad, I'm not.
I'm not someone who really follows the Pistons thankfully. Oh my new president
wants to make every every football team here a private company. Are they fun?
No? No, No, they're like public run. Yeah, they're
like you know, they're like has there been like is there a problem like
with the football teams? No? Okay, well there's like it's always been,
but we're making football team. Yeah. The solution is not making them
like for for profit because they have a role on social and Argentina. They're
big like clubs are like they were like kids go to eat and stuff like
you know, they offer a bunch of like services to their community that they
wouldn't if there were just for profit. Yeah, you need you need to
have it before the people, you know. That's how you get nice normal
saying fans like Packers fans, they only pretend on the team. I think
that's a big reason why it's full. It's a bit here because like you
go your old childhood to that club to like you spend your days there because
it's like free most of the time, Like they have free things to do
for kids, like and but no, I mean it's like being privatized,
like you got to make money everything. That actually is the same here in
Wisconsin. It's just like lambow Field is just a place people hang out and
yeah where that's the only part of Green Bay that's alive. It's on the
one hand, the entire city is about football. On the other hand is
about football. Or so we're talking about football, American football in my stream
yesterday and somebody said, like, oh, you can't see how much is
like an hour long, but the actual play is like ten minutes. I
was like, god, dang, what are you doing. Yeah, I
mean, listen, it's true, but it's also not true, because there's
so much that happens between plays in terms of set up and counteracting, like
the people, the players on the field. It's like and that's as much
of the game of football. But if you're just talking about like the hey
raw, like what you're watching in the play itself. Yeah, it's about
eleven minutes on average. Oh. Someone in the chat, I believe it's
pronounced nick. They say it's not even in green Bay Lambofield. All right,
here, here's a fun Wisconsin fact for you. Yeah, you're right,
it's over in one of those suburbs. The city of Green Bay moved
the city boundary and they bought the area that Lambofield's on. So there,
Yeah, there's a city boundary that goes along that street and then yoink up
and around Lambofield move. There is that, Yes, there is incredible.
All right, Mike's back and I think we're ready. We're ready to go.
Oh, let's go make him? Are you already Mike? Yeah,
all right, okay, let's go. Here we go. I did I
did better than you up to right out to you? What I say fifty
And he was like ninety. I really threw it away on uh, x
men legends or destiny with destiny. No, no, no, no that
one. No no, no, not that one. Let's just see this.
There's that. Yeah, he got me straight from me grec So take
out without jo apparently. Okay, he says that's an alternate title, so
I guess I I'm sorry on Metacritic, you're right. The critic talk about
the light and surprise. Of course, all right, there's that. Okay,
I no comment again, why is that that? No, that's not
what I want? Want this? People join in. The singing, repeat
the story told by the ringing. Let's bungle, well, and then there's
that, and then and then nothing. Yes, we're good. Oh I
broke, It's all good. It's a black square. Oh nevermind, okay,
man, you're oh yeah, we got this. We've done this podcast
before. This is like our second or third episode. Uh oh yeah,
all right. Let's see here the training spoke and stuff if you want to
see it. Yes, I brought that up. I'll have that here in
a second. Okay, we can bring this back in. You're ready,
Mike, Yeah, I'm right. Hey, can I get my submission wile
on the mic? No, no, yes you can, of course.
You can you can do whatever you want, Sean, you don't already know
this? What is it? You'll you'll see? All right, we're coming
back. Okay, that's a break, all right, all right? I
do like Residence the game on my hand right now, my PS three.
It has the manuals oh ship. It hasn't an iron man to add on
the on the on the back of it, it says coming May twenty ten.
This is a game. Oh yeah, it's a game. W W
Roman two game dot com. What is going on here? Okay, hang
on, I gotta see if I can share this. Let me see if
I can bring this up. You guys can see what I'm seeing. Yeah,
mm hmmm, just give me so steampunk. It's a Japanese steampank blue
physics. Oh yeah, one hundred percent. Oh my god, oh my
god. Yeah, I see why you like this game. Now. Rules,
that's it opening, that's it. Oh my god, that's insane.
That's literally the opening scene of the game. They listen, they know where
I want to put the money on the screen. Rules. That's not what
I was even talking about when I was like, what is going on?
Didn't move in on the over wall. It's cool. It's like it's so
hard to explain this game. Like you go, you don't walk around the
overwall, you go on you there it is, Yeah, playing a residence.
Yeah, Mike, I forgot why Christian likes it other than this weird
kid right here with the bullets. My wife is yes, just watch,
just keep watching. Uh, it'll come up here in a second. Okay,
what he's talking about? Oh my goodness, right here. Yeah,
you should be seeing it there. Okay, Coolah, Sorry, I was
reacting to a super chat, is what I was reacting to. I did
not see anything pervy. Oh okay, well I'll just play it again.
Then it's only only the eighth time we played it on the screens. We'll
forget. I'm watching innother leags. I'm just looking. Yeah I know,
No, I know, yeah totally. I was. That's what I was.
A wedding dress. No, it's the Independent Boob Physicist. You'll see
it. What is that was that doing? Oh yeah, you're the guy.
That's what I first saw him. I got to show this to everybody.
They're just fucking there's nothing else that could possibly be doing. He's in
a mirror, so I think he's doing it to himself, What the fun
Christ, that's get the hell out here with that alive would be like,
that's a borry, I'm downloading. It's a game. I mean I want
to play the game though, don't get me wrong. Okay, let's see
here. You ready, Mike I am. Let's do super chats and then
we'll do the game. Okay, let's go