WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:06.919 We started to hear this strange noise, you know, noise we had never 2 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:11.199 heard before. It's hard to compare the noise to anything. Give me an 3 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:14.400 idea how loud this thing was. I didn't. It didn't come into my 4 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:18.920 view for about five total mounts did the lights on the outside of the garage. 5 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:22.359 I could see down into the cornfield. I couldn't tell what it was. 6 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:25.079 You know, if you look at a lobster, how that had like 7 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:28.239 those long, like whisker things coming out. He had. He had a 8 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:32.479 couple of those too, And when he got into my garage, we have 9 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:37.280 four or five exposed light bulbs that were pretty bright. It must have scared 10 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:42.280 him or he lost control, and he just started slamming up and down into 11 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:47.000 the ceiling of my garage. Instantly we knew something was wrong, and we 12 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:51.079 ran right into the house because as soon as he started hitting the ceiling, 13 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:54.880 you could hear that this thing had weight behind it, so you could hear 14 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:59.240 the force of it just crashing into the ceiling. So we ran into the 15 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:03.439 house. I was scared to open the garage door again. But I should 16 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.680 have opened the garage door, and I should have closed I should have tried 17 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:11.040 to trap this thing in my garage just to shows someone, you know, 18 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:15.200 or to capture it somehow. But I you know, I was only like 19 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:18.959 twenty two at the time when this happened. Just with everything that was going 20 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.959 on, maybe I was just a little scrambled and it just didn't run my 21 00:01:23.079 --> 00:02:04.120 mind until the next day. Man, Tommy, you've got a story unlike 22 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:10.560 any I've ever heard before. This isn't a Bigfoot story. Let's just get 23 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:15.360 right into it. Man, I'm ready to talk about this. I have 24 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:21.319 never ever heard of anything. I'm sitting here trying to think of anybody that 25 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:23.439 I've talked to that has told me something like this, But I'm just drawing 26 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:27.639 up a blank. I have never heard anything like this. So if you 27 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:31.560 don't mind, just start back over from the top and tell us what happened. 28 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:42.240 Okay, about fifteen years ago, I was hanging out with one of 29 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:45.120 my he was my best friend at the time. His name was Steve. 30 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:53.120 We were listening to music and my garage and you know, we were listening 31 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:57.599 to music during the day. It was later in the evening, so the 32 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:04.360 sun was starting to go down, and after the sun had pretty much completely 33 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:12.479 set and it was dark we started to hear this strange noise. You noise 34 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:17.639 we had never heard before. It's hard to compare the noise to anything. 35 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:23.680 I guess now, knowing what I know, it would be some type of 36 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:30.599 wings or a flapping sound. And about give me an idea how loud this 37 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:35.159 thing was, I didn't. It didn't come into my view for about five 38 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:40.719 total minutes. So I did the lights on the outside of the garage. 39 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:45.080 I could see down into the cornfield that was across the road, and I 40 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:52.800 could see that whatever was making the noise was flying in a straight line to 41 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:59.479 my garage, and I couldn't tell what it was. I I knew it 42 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:02.560 wasn't an owl or a bird or anything like that, because it was like 43 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:08.199 it was on a string, because it stayed in one one straight line all 44 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:11.520 the way, never went like he never bobbed at the left or right, 45 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:15.319 up or down. He stayed right where he was and he flew up. 46 00:04:15.040 --> 00:04:19.879 And by the time he had got to my garage, me and my friend 47 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:26.759 had both realized that it was an insect of some type, but a very 48 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:33.839 large insect. He was about the size of a regular NFL football. He 49 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:41.199 was actually probably just a little bit bigger than that if we're excluding his wings 50 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:46.199 and his little legs or appendages that were hanging off of his body. And 51 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:51.560 he had like a design on his body. Like I said, I'll do 52 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:57.199 my best to draw you a picture of the design. He had like rings 53 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:03.879 or stripes that went around like his abdomen or but and his eyes were black. 54 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:09.759 They were a little bit, uh, a little bit bigger in a 55 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:13.079 marble. Another thing I forgot to mention too, like you know, if 56 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:15.560 you look at a lobster, how they had like those long like whisker things 57 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:19.959 coming out. Yeah, he had he had a couple of those too. 58 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:25.879 When uh, and when he got into my garage, we have four or 59 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:31.040 five exposed light bulbs that were pretty bright. He just it must have scared 60 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:36.079 him or he lost control, and he just started slamming up and down into 61 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:42.959 the ceiling of my garage. And instantly we knew something was wrong, and 62 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:46.279 we ran right into the house because as soon as he started hitting the ceiling, 63 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:50.240 you could hear that this thing had weight behind it, so you could 64 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:56.360 hear the force of it just crashing into the ceiling. So we ran into 65 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:59.839 the house. You know, we talked about it for a few moments, 66 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:04.199 his mother called him and you know, said she was passing my road and 67 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:09.959 if he wanted to ride home, you know, he better be ready and 68 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:13.279 you know, come out. And so when he went out and got in 69 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:16.319 his mother's truck, his mom said, hey, and I forgot to mention 70 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:20.360 when we went inside, I turned off the garage lights, so now it's 71 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:25.519 pitch black outside. So when she pulled up in her truck and my friend 72 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:30.399 had gotten in the truck, now they were watching this thing in the headlights 73 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:33.480 and it was just flying around, and his mom made a comment like, 74 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:38.639 oh wow, it's you know, what's that weird bird flying around in you 75 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:43.279 know, Tommy's garage, and my friend tried to explain to her that it 76 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:49.279 was some type of bug. They left, and then shortly after I'd say 77 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:56.319 twenty to thirty minutes no longer, one of my other friends, Dustin, 78 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:00.879 had stopped over, and I walked out my front door and I got into 79 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:04.920 his truck and it was the same situations. The lights were still off. 80 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:13.319 So now I'm looking at this thing through the headlights and it's you know, 81 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:19.879 it's some type of massive moth or some type of strange insect that we've never 82 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:25.680 seen before, never seen since, and it was flying around and going crazy. 83 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.519 My friend Dustin only you know, we only sat out there for maybe 84 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.120 five or ten minutes, and we talked about it and he had to go 85 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:38.920 home, so he left and was scared of the thing. So I ran 86 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:45.759 into my front door. And that's basically, you know, the whole story. 87 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:53.079 It's a short run one and earlier. My only regret was just because 88 00:07:53.079 --> 00:07:57.959 I wasn't thinking straight at this moment. I should have opened I was scared 89 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:01.439 to open the garage door again. But I should have opened the garage door 90 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.040 and I should have closed. I should have tried to trap this thing in 91 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:11.839 my garage just it just shows someone, you know, or to capture it 92 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.000 somehow. But I you know, I was only like twenty two at the 93 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:20.519 time when this happened, so idiot, you know, young man, and 94 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:24.480 just with everything that was going on, maybe I was just a little scrambled 95 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:30.199 and it just didn't run my mind until the next day. People that know 96 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:35.320 me know that this may be kind of silly. I have a slight not 97 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.440 a phobia, but I'm afraid of birds, Like I don't like to be 98 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:46.759 like close to birds and it's all based on there's been a few times a 99 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:50.799 bird has like gotten inside my home and been freaking out, flying around, 100 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:56.519 slamming into stuff, and that has just always freaked me out. And what 101 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:01.879 you're describing as like drumming up those feelings of fear, I would have been 102 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:07.519 freaking out, dude. I mean we were talking about it. I'm in 103 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:13.799 Oklahoma. Our climate downe here a little bit warmer than where you're at typically, 104 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.679 and we've got a lot of bugs. We've got some really big bugs, 105 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:24.679 but nothing anywhere close to what you're describing the size of what you're describing. 106 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:31.960 Yeah, And I think it's worth mentioning too that he didn't he didn't 107 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:35.600 fly very fast either. This was until he got into the garage. When 108 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.399 he got into the light, he sped up quite a bit. But this 109 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:45.919 was in like the first, i want to say, the first two weeks 110 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:50.840 of October. So you weren't in upstate New York. You're not seeing bugs 111 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:54.840 flying around in October. You're really not. I mean maybe like some of 112 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.000 the leftover like lady bugs and you know, the wood bugs and crap, 113 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:03.519 but yeah, uh yeah, nothing like this. And like I said, 114 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.120 I also, you know, I used the Internet and a couple of books. 115 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:11.120 I you know, looked at the biggest insects around. I checked all 116 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:16.840 the surrounding states, and nothing even you know, close the best you can 117 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:22.000 kind of give a detailed description of what it looked like as much, you 118 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:26.039 know, as much as you were able to see. You were talking about 119 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.440 the legs hanging down and stuff like that, Like what were the wing shaped 120 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:35.919 like things like that. Okay, his wings were kind of flapping really fast, 121 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:41.879 It's like, so that was probably the part I didn't get the greatest 122 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:46.919 look at. Okay, So the legs that were hanging have you ever seen 123 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:52.240 like a picture of like a blown up flea, yeah, or something like 124 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.440 that. It looked like that, Like it looked like those type of legs. 125 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:07.360 And its body was either white brown or a grayish color. And he 126 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:13.279 had like rings around his like his body he had like these, Uh, 127 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:15.639 it was a different it was the same color, but it was like a 128 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:20.879 different shade. So he had some type of pattern or design on him. 129 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:26.240 His eyes were all black. They were not like the size of a typical 130 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:28.960 marble, but like a bigger one, like a good size marble. Yeah, 131 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.440 and then he had kind of like those weird I don't know if they're 132 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:41.159 called whispers, but like if you're looking at like a like a crab or 133 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:43.480 a lot I think a lobster. Actually, you know they have those whisker 134 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.039 things. He had like a couple of those. They were gray too, 135 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:52.360 you know, that match the rest of his body. Did it look like 136 00:11:52.639 --> 00:12:07.799 just a typical moth except larger. It's so hard to describe because when you 137 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:09.559 see when you when you think of a moth, you think that they're just 138 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.879 kind of flat, you know what I mean. Yeah, So, so 139 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:18.399 it wasn't flat. It was like it was rounded and fat somehow, you 140 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:24.159 know, Like it was more so so picture like a moth, but in 141 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.360 the shape of like one of those fuzzy bumble bees. Yeah. I was 142 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.279 getting ready to say, so it's body was shaped more like a B type 143 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.320 insect. Yeah, and just the size of it, you know, we 144 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:41.120 didn't couldn't tell what type of insect it was. We both instantly ran in 145 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:46.399 the house and because I was like, we were both thinking, like this 146 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.159 thing could either like suck your blood or even if it couldn't, if it 147 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.559 bit you looked like it would hurt a lot. Yeah, I mean if 148 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.279 it's a biting insect or a stinging insect that size. Ain't no way, 149 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.919 man, I'm not hanging around to find out you were you were talking about 150 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:07.360 whenever it was like flapping around and like hitting the ceiling and stuff like dust 151 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.240 was falling off of it. Yeah, So I don't know if And that's 152 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:15.840 why where I came up with these little theories. Possibly where it came from. 153 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.559 Like I said, we could hear it for five minutes before it came 154 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:24.919 into view, so it must have come from the forest there the tree line 155 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.240 past the cornfield that was across from my house. So when he got up 156 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:35.399 to the garage, he was banging on the ceiling of my garage and there 157 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.480 was a I don't know if it was the brownish grayish color, but just 158 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:41.840 for the first car. I don't know if it continued to happen, but 159 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:46.480 what we saw when he was hitting the ceiling, there was debris like dust 160 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:50.240 just raining off of him. Yeah, like moths have like that dust on 161 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:52.080 their wings. I wonder if it could have been that or if it was 162 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.960 like dirt or something. And the only theory like when me and my friend 163 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:01.080 lie inside like we were, you know what the with that, and in 164 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:05.000 my the only two theories I could think was, like, is this some 165 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:13.399 thing that's been burrowed in the ground for God only knows how long, and 166 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.600 you know, and I don't know why it would choose a cold time like 167 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.639 October to come up, or maybe it you know, maybe it didn't come 168 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:24.240 up on its own, or maybe the tree it was or I thought maybe 169 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.799 another theory was that could have lived inside of a tree and maybe that tree 170 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:33.120 just got like really old and decayed and it had to fly out. But 171 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:35.440 when it flew out, you know, it saw all the lights at my 172 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:41.440 house and it just made a straight line right right for the lights. I 173 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:43.480 saw an article today, as a matter of fact, that was talking about 174 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:48.559 some cicada that hasn't been seen since some crazy amount of time, you know, 175 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:56.480 because like certain insects, especially cicadas, will like be buried underground basically 176 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:00.240 and they'll come up, like I think here in Oklahoma we have one that 177 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.360 comes up every seven years out of the ground or something crazy like that. 178 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:07.720 So I mean, your theory about like it possibly being something that was burrowed 179 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.879 underground for a long time and just came up, I mean, that's definitely 180 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:18.559 a possibility. You've obviously never heard anybody else in your area talk about anything 181 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.879 like this before. Oh yeah, no, And everybody I told, like, 182 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:28.440 you know, a couple of my close friends believe me, but basically 183 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.360 everyone laughs at me when I tell them. They just you know, they 184 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:37.559 laughed. This happened. You originally told me what fifteen years ago? About? 185 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:41.360 Yeah, about fifteen to sixteen years ago. I want, probably closer 186 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:46.360 to fifteen years ago. I assuming that amount of time, you've you know, 187 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:50.120 scoured the Internet and everything trying to figure out what this thing was. 188 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.919 Yeah. And another thing that I'd like to mention too, I was I've 189 00:15:54.960 --> 00:16:00.960 always been sessed with, you know, cryptozoology, the supernatural and paranormal, 190 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:07.600 so you know, just seeing something like that and then having nothing to go 191 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.039 off it was very weird. Do you remember that one website, American Monsters. 192 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:15.720 Yeah? I love that website. Yeah. Yeah, speaking of that, 193 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:19.000 I actually met the people that ran that website. I bumped it. 194 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:25.360 I was skateboarding at a Blockbuster parking lot. I saw the hairy hommetted sticker 195 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:29.679 on a jeep and I walked over and it was actually those guys that ran 196 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:33.879 the website. Oh wow, I mean those are like ogs of the cryptid 197 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.279 world, you know. Yeah, such a weird coincidence. I was like, 198 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:41.679 wow, look at I was like, I never meet other fans of 199 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:45.360 stuff like this, and I went and it was them, that's crazy. 200 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.440 Do you have any theories or guesses or anything about I mean, obviously it's 201 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:56.960 some kind of giant flying insect. Any ideas, Oh, honestly, like 202 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:03.679 nothing. The closest thing I could think of was just some type of uh 203 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:11.839 uh, you know the moth that time forgot, some kind of prehistoric moth 204 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:15.440 or whatever. I mean, there's those you know, stories of mon talk 205 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:19.599 out there. Maybe it came from there, like joking around. We've for 206 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:23.440 the last like decade, we've joked around and we've always called it the mega 207 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:29.319 moth. Yeah, that's crazy, man. And then you know, other 208 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:33.559 people were like, oh, you know mathra, So you know we've that's 209 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.440 and that's it. You know. I've I've I looked into you know, 210 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:41.920 a couple of books and the websites. I checked all the surrounding states for 211 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:45.359 the largest moths, and they not only were they not even the same color, 212 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.000 but they were what you'd expect and you'd see a giant moth. They 213 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:51.359 were like, you know, almost as flat as a piece of paper. 214 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:56.599 Yeah. Yeah, They're kind of designed to hide against tree bark and stuff 215 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:00.720 and flatten themselves out against it and blend in. And you know what, 216 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:04.400 even though this one was rounded and had more of a shape of like one 217 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:10.039 of those fuzzy bumblebees, the color he was. I mean, I'm telling 218 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:11.680 you right now, if he like landed on a tree and didn't move, 219 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:17.559 you'd never see it. Huh. What condition was the cornfield in at the 220 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:22.079 time you said this happened around October? I want to say that the cornfield 221 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.640 had been caught. It had already all been caught. So so another thing 222 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:32.440 we had talked about once was did the and these guys, you know, 223 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:36.880 they're very thorough about their work, did the you know, NonStop noise of 224 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:41.000 these giant tractors like disturb this thing. But but then at the same time, 225 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:44.960 it's they do it at the same time every year, you know, 226 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:48.799 Yeah, so why would this one year, you know, happen to wake 227 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:52.960 this thing up or make it angry to where it would come out? And 228 00:18:52.200 --> 00:18:56.039 you know, insects go through different stages, you know, I have like 229 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.680 a larval stage and stuff. So like, if you're talking about like a 230 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:06.519 moth type insect, was it at one time a giant caterpillar or something? 231 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:14.000 Maybe somebody has seen something else out there that could have been this in a 232 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:18.759 different stage of life, you know, and maybe that's why nobody else has 233 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.880 described what you're talking about. But I mean, like I'm just racking my 234 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:29.480 brain, man, Like I don't get stumped on cryptids very often, and 235 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:33.920 not very often do I run across somebody that described seeing something that I've never 236 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:41.039 heard anybody else talk about. Another thing, now that we bring that up, 237 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:45.559 another regret that I'm having now is besides you know, trying to close 238 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:52.319 the garage door and capturing it, I should have it wasn't my property. 239 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:55.119 But I'm pretty sure I could have got away with going down there. I 240 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:57.839 should have went down there, like with a strong flashlight, and I should 241 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:02.880 have looked to see if there is any type of like shell, you know, 242 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:07.079 that it came out of, or any odd holes in the ground or 243 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:10.559 anything. But like I said, I was twenty two. I was not 244 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:12.039 the person I am now, that's for sure. I mean, there's no 245 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:15.839 time where it came from either, So you probably wouldn't have found anything, 246 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:21.079 But yeah, I know what you mean, especially now that you're sitting here 247 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:26.559 fifteen years later, still talking about it and still know we're closer to figuring 248 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:30.799 out what it was than the night you saw it. Yeah. And if 249 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:34.039 I called up, like right now, if I called up my you know, 250 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.319 my buddy that was in the garage with me when it happened, I 251 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:41.559 did just say hey, remember you know megam Off and Keith laugh, and 252 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:42.519 he'd be, you know, be like, yeah, damn right, I 253 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:47.119 do. I mean, have you talked to those guys about it over the 254 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:49.680 years? Me and my friend Steve, Yeah, we've talked about it a 255 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:53.519 couple of times. And then my one friend Dustin who pulled in. I 256 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:59.319 believe we've at least talked about it once or twice. Not recently, but 257 00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:07.359 yeah, your friend's mother and this guy Dustin both whenever they saw it flapping 258 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:14.279 around inside your garage immediately associated with being some sort of bird. Yeah. 259 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:18.400 I mean that tells you, you know, the size of the thing was 260 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:22.519 way too big to be a bug. Yeah, well she said, you 261 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.880 know it when my friend Dustin played, he said, hey, you got 262 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:32.640 some kind of weird bird flying around because he was like flying around the middle 263 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:34.680 of the garage, so I could see him in the headlights, and I 264 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:40.160 could see his shadow on the back of the wall, so I could tell 265 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:44.960 he was a solid like chunky dude. And then, like I assume, 266 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:48.880 the next day, it was just gone. Yes, that's crazy, man. 267 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:53.720 I wonder if anybody else saw it, and anybody that's listening, if 268 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:57.680 you've seen a giant insect like this, you know, hit me up and 269 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:03.119 tell me. I'd love to hear about it, because this is something I 270 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:07.559 don't know. This is something that like cryptos will all just get really excited 271 00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:15.039 about, because while you're describing something completely out of the ordinary and much too 272 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:21.400 large to be anything that we know about, you're also describing something that's like 273 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:26.880 totally feasible, yeah, and could very well be a real species and not 274 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:30.720 just some folklore you know. Yeah, because it's not like, you know, 275 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:34.079 it's not like its eyes were blawing red and you know, shooting lasers, 276 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:38.559 you know, and he acted very much like an insect of the hack. 277 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:41.240 You know, he got into the lights, didn't know what to do, 278 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:45.960 and bumped us out a bunch of times. Well, have you experienced 279 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:49.759 anything else in your lifetime. Any paranormal events or UFOs or anything. No, 280 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:56.720 nothing, just the giant attack of the moth. Yeah, nothing, 281 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:02.720 nothing with I mean, Bigfoot's always been my favorite cryptid. When I was 282 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:06.200 younger, my favorite cryptids are always the Lake monsters. But as I got 283 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:10.720 older, you know, I shifted the big Foot. But I've never had 284 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:15.240 any you know, UFO or like paranormal ghost experiences or anything like that. 285 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:22.279 Where do you think your interest in this stuff came from when I was a 286 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:30.240 young boy. And second, I was in second grade when X Files started 287 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:33.039 coming on TV. Yeah, and my mother, So I would watch the 288 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:37.799 X Files with my mother like when it you know, we watched every episode 289 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:42.880 as they aired. Same thing with the Robert stack on Solved Mysteries. We 290 00:23:42.920 --> 00:23:47.759 watched all of those so I so I loved all those the ghost ones. 291 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:49.359 And I know they didn't do much with Big Fat, but there were a 292 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:53.799 couple of them. Yeah. And then uh was it Tim White with Sightings? 293 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:59.680 Yeah, Yeah, I loved I loved Sighting. Sights was a great 294 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:03.039 show. Man that that's a show that doesn't get enough recognition, you know, 295 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:07.599 it kind of gets overshadowed by like Unsolved Mysteries, but Sightings was Sightings 296 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.880 is way better in my opinion for that type of stuff. I loved you 297 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:15.400 are always you know, Unsolved Mysteries is kind of a gamble because I'd watch 298 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:19.839 it regardless. But you knew You're something good was going to be on Sightings. 299 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:23.720 Yeah, yeah, for sure, they always had great stuff. Yeah. 300 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:26.319 And then when Monster you know, and then it was obviously years and 301 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:30.759 years later when Monster Quest started, I was like, wow, I can't 302 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:34.200 believe, you know, the stuff's popular at this point to where there's going 303 00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:38.960 to be multiple seasons of a show like those. Yeah, and it's only 304 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:44.200 gotten more popular over the years. Now it's kind of its own thing. 305 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:48.960 It's become part of pop culture and gotten trendy in some ways. It's pretty 306 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:52.000 crazy. Yeah, I agree. Well, all right, man, I 307 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:56.960 appreciate you sharing your story. Thank you for listening. I wish I I 308 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.839 wish I had some information give you or help you out with on this one. 309 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:07.640 Man. I'm sure it's really sucked, you know. Yeah. Yeah, 310 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.920 I've been waiting to tell this one for quite a while. Like I've 311 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:15.519 only told you know, like my wife and a couple of my close friends, 312 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.960 and you know, I told the kids, and that's pretty much a 313 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:25.039 didn't you say you reached out to Ken Gerhart? Yes, yes, I 314 00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.400 did. I just know he deals with a lot of weird stuff. You 315 00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:37.400 know. I read Ken's book Flying Humanoids in twenty fifteen, and so September 316 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:42.519 thirty, ath twenty fifteen, I wanted to tell him about it. And 317 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.599 you know, this was on my part. This was probably my fault that 318 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.559 I never got to speak with him, because he did ask what was you 319 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.759 know, what would be a good time to call tomorrow, and I don't 320 00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:59.680 remember what was happening in my life or what, you know, what was 321 00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:03.119 going on, and I just never messaged him back. So that was actually 322 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:07.319 on my end. Hey, it happens. Yeah, and you know, 323 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:10.599 maybe this was for the better, you know, because I'm glad, you 324 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:12.440 know, I listen to your show every time you guys put out a new 325 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.400 episode, So maybe this will be for the better. Yeah, man, 326 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:21.119 I appreciate you coming on. For sure. I'm gonna be thinking about this 327 00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.319 one for the rest of the day at least. Yeah, if you ever 328 00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:26.279 hear anything from anyone, make sure you let me know. Yeah, for 329 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:32.480 sure. And if you've seen a giant moth Bigfoot or a lake monster, 330 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.240 or anything at all that you can't explain. Send me an email at Bigfoot 331 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:40.599 Crossroads at gmail dot com. Check out the website Bigfoot crossroads dot com. 332 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.519 You can find links to old episodes, a contact form, everything you need, 333 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:49.200 all in one place. And until next time, remember there's something in 334 00:26:49.200 --> 00:27:14.119 the woods.