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It's time for Coffee and Company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day. Now, here's Nick Coffee. All right, let's get it started,

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Ladies and gentlemen, hour number three, the five o'clock hour. Here

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on a Wednesday afternoon Coffee and company. That's us. My name's Nick Coffee.

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The company man John Alden alongside.
As you could expect a lot of

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reaction today to the big news that
isn't just big news around here, but

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it is national news. LPD has
not ILYMPD, but the prosecutors have decided

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to dismiss all charges that were filed
against Scotti Scheffler twelve days ago when he

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was on his way to the PGA
Championship right after a fatal accident took place

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and was told by one law enforcement
officer that he was good to go around

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and then stopped by another, and
then it, you know, all hell

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broke loose, really just with one
guy. I mean, it sounds as

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if the entire situation, you know, the one person that was like hot

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about it was that guy, the
guy who you know, hopefully he pulls

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through, I'm not sure he's gonna
make it. He had a booboo on

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his knee, and he got his
pants ruined. I think what happened.

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He might have pooped his pants,
that's how they got ruined. He was

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so frightened that Scotty Scheffler was going
to run him over. And yes I'm

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exaggerating because that didn't come close to
happening. That's probably what it was.

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Look, I've never done that,
but I bet if I got scared enough,

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I could see that happening to me. I mean, you never know

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what your body's gonna do when you
get that scared. And clearly someone driving

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in a PGA Championship vehicle going slow
kind of trying to skirt around you guys

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to get to his tea time,
that'll put some fear into you that you've

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probably never experienced. And that's probably
why he pooped his pants and they were

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ruined eighty dollars pants for that matter, and you know he had a booboo.

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So this is good news that they've
dropped charges, but I mean,

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it still sucks that it happened.
And each day that there has been new

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information provided, and really each day
that like anybody talked about it from the

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Louisville side, meaning when Mayor Greenberg
talked about it. LL and PD talked

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about it, did their presser,
but it really wasn't a presser because it's

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not a press conference if you don't
take questions, is it it's just a

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statement that you're like you're releasing.
I mean, I think you could have

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just put it in a statement if
you're not going to take questions. So,

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you know, it sucks all the
way around. And I don't know

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if it's going to be something that
people years from now think of when they

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think of Low I would imagine not. But sometimes crappy things happen, and

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you know there's really nobody to blame. Sometimes bad things happen, and you

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know it's it's clearly just one person
that decided to do something crazy that was

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a bad, you know, terrible
crime or whatever it may be, and

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it brought it brought attention here.
But like, and I don't give any

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examples, but what makes this just
such a frustrating thing is that it was

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so easily avoidable. It didn't need
to happen. And for those of you

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that haven't heard this yet, this
was released earlier this morning. This is

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the audio as Scotty Scheffler was talking
to an officer after he was arrested.

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So this is the aftermath, and
this is Scheffler talking to a different cop

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who we'll let you hear for yourself. You can come to your own conclusion.

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But this confirms I believe what everybody
has said about Scheffler as being a

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very very nice, upstanding man with
high character. And I don't think you

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could have been more kind to this
police officer at that time. And these

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guys got their feelings hurt, especially
the guy who who might have pooped his

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pants, and you know, Nope, you can't talk to him. You're

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going to jail because I said so. So here here's this clip. It's

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about three minutes, so a little
longer than what we would typically give you.

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That's what she said. No,
that's will nevermind it'd be wouldn't that

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be what he said? Not?
She said? Anyways, here you go

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my tea time. Yeah. I
had to loop all the way around that

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way. Took me about probably a
half hour. Because I pulling in here,

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the police officer up there told me
to come the opposite way with the

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traffic and then come in. And
as I was pulling in, my window

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is down an officer told me to
stop, and as I was First of

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all, I did not know that
he was a police officer. I thought

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he was one of the security guards
that was mistaken. And as I was

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pulling by me, he grow stop
stop right there was or if he's a

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security guard or a police officer,
because if somebody's telling you to stop,

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yes, you're right, I should
have stopped. I did get a little

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bit impatient because I'm I'm quite late
for my tea time, and as he

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was reaching in the car, he
grabbed my shoulder and hit me like I'm

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trying to get you to stop right, yes, okay. It seemed to

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be a little bit over aggressive because
the entrance was open, okay, and

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I pulled a little bit because I
was afraid. I thought he was gonna

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start hitting me, and I didn't
know who he was. He didn't tell

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me he was a police officer.
I didn't always always a yellow jacket.

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I know what he was doing.
I was listened well, a police officer.

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So the thing is he's wearing a
uniform, okay, he also is

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wearing the same jacket that I have
on the says police also on that if

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someone's telling you to stop. No
matter who it is, you don't keep

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going. So what happened is you
kept going and you took him with you

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while he's a pedestrian. Okay,
So you took him with your car and

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drug him, okay, which is
not a good thing right everywhere that was

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that was to make it so to
listen to me, so make it even

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worse. When he asked you to
get out of the car, he refused

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to get out of the car.
I still did not was not wear he

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was a police officer. I was
actually looking out the window of the car

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to try to find a police officer. I asked, we're all right here,

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and he was there, believe me. Sure, we're all wearing yellow

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vests. So you can see this. If you knew he was a police

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officer, I would have been much
more less afraid. But panic kind of

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set in. As you can see, I'm still shaking because I was afraid.

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I didn't know who he was.
He didn't say police, get out

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of the car. He just hit
me with this flashlight and yelled get the

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car. So we're wearing a lot
of police gears. That's surely signifies that

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we're leaving me. If I knew
he was a police officer, I would

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have gotten out of the car.
I don't know what to tell you other

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than well, it's a little bit
panic trying to get into the golf course.

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And I now I don't know what
to do. But let's go back

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to the first point. Okay,
No matter if you thought he was a

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police officer or not, somebody have
stuff. Why we're wearing yellow best?

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Why do you think we're wearing yellow
vest? So you can see us right,

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so you can see this. And
if somebody tells you to stop,

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if it's a traffic guard, security
guard, anybody, that means you stop

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at that time and you don't keep
going. Okay, so stuff like this

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doesn't happen, Yes, because you
actually actually hurt him and he's a police

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officer. Yes, he's got a
huge scrape on his knee. He's getting

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checked by ems, big Bruce.
So I don't I don't know. But

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for you right now, you're the
main question is if you're going to jail,

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and it's up to him. I
don't know. Am I able to

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speak with him? No? Not
at this time. He's no. So

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what I'm gonna do? Yeah?
So that was it. And when you

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play a clip that long. I
try, you know, make some notes

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here as far as things to hit
on from that, and I guess I'll

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work my way with the most recent
one and go back. Who knew you

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could bruise that quickly? Right?
He's Bruce got a bruise. It sounds

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like he is it a broken bone? Is it possible to bruise? Like

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when I think of a bruise,
I think, you know, purple dark

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bruise like brucees take a while,
don't they at least to be visible.

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Well, it's just another one of
those things where it's just like really trying

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to overdo it when it comes to
like the injury that was caused. But

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also to hear the doesn't matter if
he's law enforcement or if he's traffic or

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security guard. If they tell you
to stop, you stop, not necessarily.

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I mean, I mean, I
get that that really all depends on

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the context of the situation. But
that's not just like a known thing if

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I mean, and the one thing
everybody asked, whatever they you know,

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there was live cameras from the television
stations in the aftermath. Is all the

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policemen out there wearing those yellow jackets. I'm sure something on those said police,

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but it wasn't on the back.
It didn't seem as if it was

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like some big thing that everybody would
notice. And if he was told by

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another law enforcement officer that he could
that he could go, why didn't that

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guy intervene and say, yes,
I told him were good, Like,

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I don't think it every They never
would have the conversation to let that be

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discussed because they were so hot about
it and wanted to, you know,

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just in my opinion, abuse their
authority. I mean, he couldn't have

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been more nice to the to the
law enforcement officer that he talked to there,

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and he wanted to, I guess, explain himself, you know he

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was. I mean I actually think
he probably I don't know him at all,

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but it wouldn't shock me if he
wanted in real time to in fact,

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maybe counter some of the things that
was said, not to say like

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hey, no you're lying, but
maybe kind of to explain himself a little

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bit more. But instead he just
he just chose to be kind and apologetic

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for the situation happening all the way
around, whereas they took no accountability for

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how there could have been a you
know, not only could have there been

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a miscommunication and you know, use
your brain and realize that, like it's

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dark outside, it's pouring down rain, it's not actually you know clear to

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know what's going on. It's a
hectic situation, and you know they don't

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think about that. I mean,
in that situation, they didn't. So

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whenever he did say yes, I'm
sorry, I realized, you know,

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that led to somebody asking Steve Romans, Scheffler's attorney, today about why did

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he, you know, kind of
admit to that he did, in fact,

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you know, drag the officer,
And that led to a fiery response

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from Steve Romans that of all the
things that Romans said today, I mean,

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he delivers with about every second of
time he gets to speak publicly in

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front of a camera and a microphone, and certainly to a judge and a

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jury, he's very good at doing
exactly that. But this woman asked,

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you know, why, why did
you know? Why did he basically tried

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to say Scheffler lied after saying it
was a misunderstanding because this audio proved that

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he admitted that, like which it
didn't. I mean, she she's exaggerating

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that, but I thought this this
response was was was something worth hearing.

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And clearly I'd say that is what
a lot of folks believe because I think

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the Way three reporter who had this
video out there on Twitter, it's got

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like over a million views. And
again that's that's because this is a national

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story. Steve. I have to
ask you, though, the Standard said

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Scott, he need after the vest, don't need to prove the line with

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the point they're seeing right now,
he admits that he got in piche and

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brent to far. No, here's
what happens is he is being interrogated after

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the most stressful situation of his life, right, and the officer is actually

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asking him leading questions and trying to
get him to agree with them. Okay,

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and that's why you don't talk to
the police, because they are going

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to try to put words in your
mouth. And that's exactly what they did.

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No, of course he didn't have
to speak, but again, he

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asked to talk to the officer.
He wanted to explain to him what happened.

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However, they are trying to get
him to confess to something that he

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didn't do, and the video evidence
shows he didn't do it. That's why

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you don't talk to the police.
They are not trying to get to what

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happened. They are trying to get
you to incriminate yourself. And that's what

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they were trying to do to him, and he didn't incriminate himself. He

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continued to show the quality of his
character by trying to diffuse the situation.

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He is being interrogated after the most
stressful situation of his life. That's just

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more from that same clip there.
But this is something that I'm sure it's

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getting talked about because it's an important
it's an important detail, the claim that

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he dragged the officer. You know, I don't know if this is going

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to I mean, I guess the
closest thing to proof is that they've dropped

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the charges. However, there's no
evidence that that happened other than it just

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being what the And again, I
don't believe that there was a secondary altercation

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and what we I'm sorry there was
that what we saw was after the fact.

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You know, there's people that say
a bus was blocking one of the

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cameras that's set up there at the
course to where you couldn't see initially what

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had happened, and that he actually
already had dragged this officer before you saw

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the officer try to bring him out
of his car, and you know,

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make it hostile. That just doesn't
make any sense to me. Doesn't make

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any sense at all. And what
I mean by that is like, if

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what we saw in the video that
was released last week was after he had

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already dragged this officer ten to fifteen
yards, everybody else who's out there with

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Gillis would have been swarming him,
honestly, probably would have had guns drawn,

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given the way that some of these
these guys act so like, it

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just doesn't make any sense. And
to now know that there's witnesses that have

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talked to both the county attorney and
to Romans claim and I guess we're willing

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to testify that they saw it.
They didn't video it, they don't have

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any evidence, but they saw it, and they're willing to testify that that

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just flat out did not happen.
He is being interrogated whip after the most

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stressed. There are multiple eyewitnesses to
the incident. The actual initial contact that

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I've spoken with, I have statements
from that the county spoke the Prosecutor's office

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have spoken with that confirmed that he
was not dragged. You believe they would

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have dismissed this case if he was
dragged. No, they would not have.

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That did not happen. And what
really sucks about this is that it

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wouldn't be a huge shock if,
in fact, there was somebody that's famous,

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like Scottie Scheffler that did something.
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Let's say that whole thing is true
and he was dragged and there was

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video of it and he was still
charged and it was a felony. There

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would still be people claiming LMPD was
in the wrong. There'd still be people

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claiming, oh, come on,
give him a break, he was just

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trying to get to his tea time
and you guys were holding him up because

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you're a bunch of bum cops.
Like that would be the reaction from some

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people, and that's just where we
are in society. But to know that

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like this was so like this,
this was nothing. I mean, I

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shouldn't say nothing. I mean it
was, but I think at least I

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choose to think that most people would
have at least had more of a conversation

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and diffused the situation as much as
Scheffler tried to. Because I think that's

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all he was trying to do in
that conversation, and yet they didn't want

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any part of it because in their
mind, he'd already you know nothing,

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Hey, no talking about he's going
to jail, buddy, He's going to

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jail. Remember the first video that
came out that morning after the fact,

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Like that's what they just kept.
It's almost like they were bragging, like

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scoreboard gotcha, Nope, going to
jail. And I know that there are

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great law enforcement officers all over the
world, especially in this city, in

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this in this area. It just
sucks that, you know, you have

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these kind of things happen, and
there are some that will never trust cops

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for a variety of reasons and just
it's unfortunate. But when it comes to

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what Roman said about like never talk
to cops, I mean, I think

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you should always be kind. If
they're kind to you, you should be

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respectful. If they're respectful to you, you should follow a lawful command because

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I mean, you know, I
don't know, maybe I shouldn't have said

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that part because maybe they're giving you
a lawful command and it's to incriminate you.

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I don't know. But if you're
just looking to give any law enforcement

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officer a hard time. Like,
you know, I don't think you should

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do that. I can't tell you
what to do. You can do whatever

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you want, but I don't think
that's something people should do because I believe

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in being kind to human beings when
you can. But some of the questions

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they do ask, I mean,
you know, it's not their business and

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it has nothing to do. They
don't have a right to know that it's

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not their business, and there's no
reason that you should have to answer it.

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And some people probably answer those questions, and you know, it ends

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up getting them down a path to
where maybe they've incriminated themselves or at least

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given law enforcement enough to charge them
with something that maybe wasn't legitimate. It's

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one of the things he talked about. I don't have the clip of it,

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but how often times everybody's overcharged initially, and it's because of those kind

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of things, just because they you
know they'll and by the way, you

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know, until you in front of
a judge, I mean, that's really

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when it comes down to did you
do what they're accusing you of doing?

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Right? But like, let's not
act like just being charged with something isn't

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a substantial thing. I mean that's
I mean, I think if you're charged

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with a crime and it's like proven
that like it was not legitimately something that

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should have like the charges were not
legit I mean, people aren't held accountable

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for that, and I just think
that's wild. I guess if you are

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someone who brings information to law enforcement
that you lie about that then brings charges,

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then I guess you can be held
accountable legally. But it sounds like

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this guy, this officer Gillis,
I mean, it sounds like he just

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completely exaggerated or maybe made it up, which is wild to think about,

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but clearly that stuff kind of happens. It was nice to hear Scotty Scheffler

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meant, you know, not Scotty
Seffler. But his attorney mentioned that,

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you know, they didn't want to
do any they didn't want to pursue litigation

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at all, which I think is
is good news because you know, it

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sounds like with the family history of
I guess I think his mother, I

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don't know if she was an attorney
or is an attorney still, But there

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was some national coverage of this,
basically stating that, you know, if

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he wanted to file a lawsuit,
you know, he may have some resources

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on his side to potentially win a
big lawsuit, which good news is he's

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not going to file a lawsuit,
and I think that's you know, nice

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of him to do. But also, let's be real, if he filed

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a lawsuit and he won and it
was a ton of money, it's taxpayers

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they would have to pay for that. Lawsuits are paid by the taxpayers.

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He prevails in civil litigation against LMPD, who pays that taxpayers a Louisville he

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doesn't wish the taxpayers the Louisville of
Louisville to pay him for whatever occurred.

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So I'm sure it'll die down in
the coming days. But one thing that

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I don't have a clue what to
expect that could make it to where this

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thing doesn't just go away is that
LMPD released a statement earlier this afternoon,

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shortly after it became public that the
charges were dropped, and said that videos

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and documents which were previously unreleased due
to the judicial process, will be made

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available after appropriate reactions are made.
So maybe there's more video that comes out

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that makes this look even worse for
this officer. All right, quick break,

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So, the door to door salesman
who was in my neighborhood the other

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day, I talked about it,
I think right around this time yesterday,

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and we've mentioned it here and there
throughout the show today because apparently these this

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company, you know, I'm not
going to mention their name, but they

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sell pest control services. They wear
like a like a lime green, like

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a white and lime green I think. But they have those hover boards that

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they ride around on in your neighborhood, and it's quite clear like they're they're

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selling stuff usually like the clipboards a
giveaway or like a tablet or something like

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that. And I've had people since
the show started that are like, you

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know, friend of mine, one
of them being a great friend of mine,

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Miss Tony Venetti, who says that
the sales door to door sales guys

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from this company they hit Saint Matthew's
recently today. It sounds like they got

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boots on the ground in Jaytown.
That's when my buddy tells me they're everywhere.

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They're aggressive, and it's not uncommon
to see somebody walking around a neighborhood

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trying to hustle, go door to
door. And I got no problem with

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somebody trying to make a living.
I actually don't even mind if somebody came

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to my door and knocked on it, or they saw me outside and they

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came to approach me to have a
conversation. I'm uncomfortable and awkward because I

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don't want to be rude and just
say no. And I know that they're

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not just going to take no for
an answer. They're going to be not

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even pushy, but just have a
response, have an answer for everything.

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They can counter whatever it is you
have to say. That annoys me,

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but the overall, you know,
initial interaction doesn't bother me because they're just

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trying to make a living. Now
the way it all started for me the

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other day, holiday right, I'm
packing up the kids. We're going to

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my mother's house for a little cookout, enjoy the holiday. I'm putting my

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children in the car seat. It's
quite clear what I'm doing in my garage,

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and sure enough I turn around the
guys right behind me, I mean

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not like literally, but like,
you know, within five six feet and

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instead of like, you know,
hey did I catch at a bad time?

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Like he you know, inky,
went right into who do you guys

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use for? Because it's never a
hey, would you be interested in having

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a conversation about whatever I'm selling?
They never do that because nobody would say

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yes. So it's who do you
use? And if you say this company

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or you say you don't, you
don't use anybody, then that you know,

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they can go right into what they
want to do. If you,

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you know, like not interested,
they won't just say okay, have a

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nice day. Oh do you know
the smith's down the road? Talk to

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them. I mean, they have
an answer for everything. And I'm not

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as pushy as maybe some be.
I mean, I think as pushy as

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I've ever been. Was like,
look, I'm not interested, man,

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not gonna happen, see you later. That's probably about as aggressive as I

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would ever be, unless you know, it got to a point where it's

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like, all right, I'm gonna
call the cops, you lunatic, leave

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me alone. But this company,
the ones that the one that I'm referring

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to that's got boots on the ground
everywhere they're training. It's it's impressive.

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Like I would love to be a
fly on the wall with a new employee,

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a new hire, just to hear
how they because these guys are not

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bashful, they're not discouraged by anything
you have to say. And you know,

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if you've got a neighborhood that doesn't
allow soliciting, and I'm sure you

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know there's some ways around that.
But what they've told somebody not in my

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neighborhood, but a neighborhood near me, because again, this has become like

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a big conversation around my area because
they're everywhere and they're not just like you

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know, they're I guess more persistent
than anybody else. And it's just got

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a lot of people upset because like, hey, they keep coming back and

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they won't leave me alone. But
when they ride around on those hoverboards in

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the street, you know they're on
a public street, like they don't think

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there's anything anybody can do, like
I don't. They're not breaking the law.

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Public street is not private property.
They have every right to be there,

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so like they're not doing anything wrong. And then they when they come

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on your property and you say,
hey, you can't be here no soliciting

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because of because of like the HOA
or whatever it may be like that has

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that rule. They the company they
work for. Clearly it's not a local

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company. I mean, they're huge. They pay money in certain areas,

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according to these salesmen to have like
a city permit to where they have the

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right to solicit, which I'm not
even sure if that's the thing, but

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that's what they tell people. And
you know, it'd be tough for you

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to be able to, like,
you know, prove them wrong. Right.

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In fact, they may have documentation
on them it tells them they're allowed

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to be there now if you have
private property. I guess that's a little

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bit of a different story. But
what I think is wild is that it

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seems as if, in like the
last seventy two hours, they just went

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crazy. Maybe it's because summer's officially
still well I don't know if it's officially

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starting, but my official kickoff to
the summer is this past holiday week and

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they just concluded, I mean,
and they have it, and I guess

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they know people are going to be
out because the weather's nice and most people

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aren't working on Monday, but they
were everywhere. But even since then,

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like they're still around and I just
find it fascinating, and we've it's led

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to a lot of people sharing stories
of what, you know, what they

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what they say to these people who
try to sell them something, and then

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like if you're just immediately a jerk
to them, again, you have every

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right to do that, and I'm
sure they've dealt with worse. But what

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really just makes it irritating is the
a simple hey, no, thank you,

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not interested like that in any any
walk of life, any sales gig,

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shouldn't that be enough. I mean, I guess that makes you a

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bad salesman if you do take no
for an answer right out of the gate.

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Because unless people come to you looking
to buy, and you're approaching them

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like you are, you're hustling.
You are soliciting business. And if you

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go to someone's door, clearly they
weren't looking for what you were selling because

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they were in their home, right, It's it's not you know, if

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guy walks on the car lot,
he wants to buy, right, or

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at least he's there for a reason
and not just to, you know,

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just to hang out. A guy
comes in your store. There's interest at

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some point it, you know,
to some level that you can ask him,

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hey can I help you? You
know, just you know we got

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this deal going on. They're already
there there, there's some level of interest

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that brought them to you. But
like to go to somebody's door try to

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do your sales pitch and then tell
you not interested, and for you to

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still try like it is kind of
a crazy move if you think about it.

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But at one point, like the
you know, not to say anybody

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should be violent or do anything crazy, but I'm just there's gonna be like

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a video of somebody video on one
of these guys, and you know it'll

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go viral because everybody will share it
and say, hey, these guys were

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my neighborhood. And I'm I don't
mean one or two guys specifically, I

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just mean the people who work for
this company. It'll be a video of

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somebody pushing them off of their hoverboard
as they're walking away. I would be

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terrible at selling anything, I believe. In fact, my first job I

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worked at Finish Line. I'm sorry. My first job that I actually worked

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for a while I was Finished Line. But my first job was at Hollister,

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and uh, you know, I
made very little money hourly, and

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I got commissioned if I helped somebody
with something. So what I was told

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to do was stand and unfold and
refold jeans in the in the guy section

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and ask people who walked by,
have you heard how good our jeanes fit?

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And you know that didn't. That
wasn't a line that got much interest

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from anybody, and it was awkward. So I took my first break and

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never came back. Had a little
bit of better luck at finish line,

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which is kind of the same type
of job if you think about it.

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But I'm just curious, like I
would love to hear it. I don't.

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I'm not. I wouldn't. I
wouldn't make fun of them. I

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wouldn't do it to, you know, to make a joke out of them.

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If you have done that type of
job, and you've had success to

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where you have legitimately made a living, and you didn't like look to leave

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the first chance you get because it
was something you were able to actually generate

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income from and you and you found
out you were kind of good at it,

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I'd love to pick your brain on
the show, because I bet you

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have some stories about things people have
said to you that what did you to

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get the hell away? I'm sure
you've got some success stories where might it

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might have started out like that type
of an interaction and sure enough you sold

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them. And I would also love
to know the commission structure because I would

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imagine probably if you because that's a
hard thing to do. It'd be funny

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if when you were having the conversation
with the guy the other day or just

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in another instance in the future,
if you got them, if you started

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your own conversation about how do you
do this? Man like just making it

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about I may do job. I
may do that next time. I may

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say, look, let me tell
you this is who I am. I'm

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sure you don't know who I am, but I host the radio show and

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we've talked about you, not you
specifically, but this situation I got it.

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I would I'm not gonna buy from
you, but I'll give you my

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time if you want it. Knowing
you're not gonna get a sale, he'll

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probably walk away, right, But
if he would have a conversation with me,

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I would pick his brain and he
may not tell me the truth,

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but I'm you know, well,
if he broke down. He's just like,

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man, this sucks, this is
all of God. I would that

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may I'm let's be real, you
think some of these guys haven't given like

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the ultimate pity sympathy thing to get
a sale. I guarantee you they have,

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right, Like, I'm just trying
to make a living to feed my

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kids, and that may that may
be true as well, and that may

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be that may be a savvy move
to to get it done, you know,

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get the deal by you know,
anything, anything, any means necessary.

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One of the things I didn't mention
yesterday was when he asked me if

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I knew the Smiths who I don't
know? Who they are? He asked

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me if I knew my neighbor across
the street, who I do, and

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I don't believe that they are a
customer, which I'm pretty sure they're not.

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You know, he continued to mention
other people. And you know,

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at this time, I'm just walking
around walking, you know, just finally

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got my daughter in her car seat, got her buckle in. I'm walking

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like, I'm not even looking at
him. I'm just walking back to the

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car to get in. So he
finally takes the hint, and sure of

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me shutting the door and you know, turning the car on. That was

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him, you know, that was
him. He was leaving at that point,

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but it's like he had the like
he in his world, he thought

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that that's all people do in the
neighborhood is talk about the services they provide

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and how we all need it.
Like, what do you mean, Like,

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even if I do know them,
do you think that's what we talk

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about? Like just fascinating to me. Fascinating stuff. All right, quick

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break, we'll come back and wrap
this thing up. On the other side,

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it sounds as if we're getting closer
and closer to figuring out every player

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that is in the draft currently if
they're going to stay in or come back.

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And man, a lot of schools
have already used their scholarships because I

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think a lot of coaches would love
to rather be safe than sorry. But

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there's some good players left. I
don't know if i'd say there's any elite

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guy left, but Arthur Kaluma Coleman
Hawkins. I mean, those are two

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guys that I feel like could play
for anybody. Obviously different role depending on

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where they go, but where they
end up it'll be interesting to see,

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all right, quick break again,
We'll let wrap it up. On the

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other side, it's coffee and company. Feel abut Thorton's right here on Sports

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Talk seven ninety one of the more
unique voices in music. I don't know

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if this is sel Green solo or
one of the acts he performs with.

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This is regular SELO. Okay,
Yeah, he's uh, he's got a

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sound man. He's one of those
guys that when you hear him, like,

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you know exactly who it is.
And I guess a lot of artists

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have that, but I feel like
he's somebody that isn't. I mean,

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he's mainstream, but you know what
I mean, like he's not as big

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as you know the eye. Yeah, good stuff there, all right.

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So I'm trying to see if there's
any if there's any up to date list

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here. The one I'm looking at
is is from a couple of hours ago.

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But you know, Arthur Kaluma,
we talked about him. He's coming

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back to uh to college. Don't
know where he's gonna end up. Also,

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who else was it that Coleman Hawkins
He's gonna which he's I guess he's

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withdrawn from the draft. And those
are two players that I feel like right

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now would have to be up there
as far as you know, some of

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the best players available in the portal. And I'm sure there are some schools

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that have scholarships available. I mean, I'm sure Kentucky has some, Indiana

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doesn't have any, Louval didn't have
any, Indiana has one. I thought

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they took the kid from Butlerman they
did, that was one of their two.

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Yeah, well heck, maybe they
could get involved here with one of

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these players and you know, really
add a nice piece to to to round

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out the roster. So if I
was a coach, this would be a

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difficult decision for me as far as
how you like, how you go about

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managing scholarships, because at this point, I mean, there's probably still players

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available. But I would say on
the Louisville side, you know, they

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they were willing to take that last
commitment from Frank. I can't think of

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his last name and Insulm. Maybe
I'm saying that incorrectly. He was the

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transfer who played at Syracuse and at
Georgia, and it's played a lot of

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basketball but has not at all been
you know, a super productive player.

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But maybe he's just a good a
good body. I mean to me,

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he's the exact kind of player that
you should expect to get if you only

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have one scholarship left, you know, he's not going to have a ton

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of high interest. And you know, when you're at thirteen and you've built

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a team from scratch, it's going
to take somebody willing to have a minor

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role. And I'd say given that
he's had a minor role at Syracuse and

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at Georgia for four years collectively,
then you know, Louisville was an attractive

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spot for him. But if they'd
have left that open and potentially, you

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know, pursued one of these guys
available, I wouldn't have criticized it because

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you could still get some good players. But you never know, right like,

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there's a lot of schools that are
going to be going after these guys,

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and if you can, you know, if you have the ability to

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just finalize your roster, like a
lot of schools probably have it. Point

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I mean, I get it.
Which, by the way, UL has

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announced a lot of these guys officially
meeting all these players that have that have

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transferred in and I'm excited. We
got a long way to go to basketball,

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but just you know, these are
not. These aren't guys we weren't

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aware of. But I cannot wait. I mean, the air has already

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started, right with with I mean
Pat Kelsey, I mean we know that,

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but this will be a great year
for them to have had a summer

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trip for us to see this team. But you know they don't choose to

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do that, and that's fine.
Have a good night, everybody, see tomorrow.

