Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this glorious Friday afternoon in the tri
State. Of course, Bengals kickoff tomorrow about one oh five vikings in town,
and there's a heartbeat when it comes to the Bengals maybe making into the
playoffs. Our coverage starts about nine o'clock tomorrow morning, plus later on about
one hour we have Brian Kilmead's going to be with us from Fox News.
But until then. On Wednesday, Ohio lawmakers voted to ban transgender girls from
female sports and to restrict the medical care of transgender miners. I guess the
headline is that doctors in the state of Ohio, assuming Mike DeWine signs the
bill, which is questionable at this point, would prescribe. It would keep
doctors from prescribing hormones, puberty blockers, or gender reassignment surgery before that Ohio
kid turns eighteen years old, and a change on Wednesday also would allow Ohio
residents already receiving hormones or puberty blockers to continue. Joining you and I now
is the great Senator Steve Huffman of Miami County more or less, and Senator
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show, And can you tell the American people
the three or four headlines of the bill that you voted for and that sits
on the governor's desk as we speak. Give me the three or four headlines.
I think you summed it up pretty well. But no puberty blockers,
no hormones, no surgeries under eighteen. But you also forgot a second component
of this that high school students, college athletes could not change if they're assigned
as a male, could not say that they're a female and then play in
those high school sports. And so does this also would this also apply to
like Ohio State or University of Toledo or Miami? Does it apply there too?
It says members of the NCAA, a A or the or A junior
college. Yes. Okay, let's talk about gender dysphoria in general, which
is a medical condition. Until recently, it was viewed as a psychiatric condition
that required some sort of intervention by a psychologists or a psychiatrist. But can
you explain what is gender dysphoria that someone who is biologically one sex mentally and
feels that they're of the other sex. Okay, and so this, yeah,
so, and sometimes that there are some that have. According to the
literature, about ninety nine point nine percent of us aren't in that category,
but about point one percent is in the category of someone who thinks like,
I look physically like a male, but I think I'm a female. And
in the past, how was that dealt with? Well, probably when when
you were growing up, it was totally ignored, you know, and that
it's at times it's been just cross dressing, and that it's you know,
coming to these hormones and surgeries recently, and as far as the uh,
the activist on one side claim that you're gonna one one argument I hear that
the issue we voted on, which was State Issue one, we were told
during the campaign that this had nothing to do with gender re assignment surgery or
sports. But now the arguments I hear on the other side is that this
might violate what we just passed relative to abortion, which is a reproductive issue,
because if one changes one's gender, it affects one's reproductive abilities. Is
it in the back of your mind somehow that State Issue one impacts the legislation
you voted for on Wednesday or not. In my opinion, it doesn't but
I think at some point the Supreme Court may have to be asked to answer
that question, but in my opinion, it doesn't. Senator, what do
you we had a children's hospital here in Cincinnati is a fine facility. It
was voted the best children's hospital in the country when you voted for this,
and it's on the governor's desk awaiting signature. That children's hospital issued a statement
saying that the laws interfering somehow with doctor patient relationships and also interfering with the
relationship of a mother or father who wants their child to go through this gender
reassignment surgery beginning with hormones. How did you process the idea that many of
the children's hospitals, including I would assume nationwide and Columbus opposes this, did
this way into your thinking at all? It did. I will say that
their association and every children's hospital in the state was against this, But I
think it came down to, you know, we have a duty to protect
the hollow highlights, and I think that's what it came down to, is
to protect them till they were able to make their own logical decision at an
appropriate age. And so I would assume that the activists have a different viewpoint.
In fact, I'm getting a text from one right now that deals with
the issue of was there any testimony that ten years from the switch as a
teenager, that there was buyer's remorse? And I've done this topic. This
topic didn't didn't exist till about two or three years ago. By the way,
I've been doing this for about forty years. And gender reassignment surgery was
perceived as mutilating a child, which was illegal, and hormonal therapy was brand
new. But can you tell the American people what percentage or ten years after
the switch, Let's say this person who's gone transgender is twenty five, thirty
years old, and how much buyer's remorse has there been in that regard.
I can't give you a percent or a number. But we did have a
number of people that came and testified, and you know that that expressed that
they wish this law was in place. They would have not have had surgery,
they would not have had the hormones, and they really did have buyer's
remorse. And this just delays. It doesn't say after you're eighteen, okay,
let's I want to do this and you can go down that path with
your own desires. But you know, right now, my understanding, nobody
in the state is doing the gender surgery. But you know this bill is
going to prevent that that if someone was going to move in that direction like
other states have, it's not gonna be able to do it. Do you
have a sense as we sent here this Friday afternoon, the Governor Mike Dwine's
gonna sign it or not? What is your crystal ball? Tell you?
I spoke to him a couple of days ago about this bill, and I
know he has a lot of reservations. The governor, as you know,
truly looks after the children in the state, and I think he's gonna do
what his conscience says, or he may just not do anything. And you
know, ten days after it's given to him, it just becomes law without
a signature, And I'm not really sure what he do at this point.
Senator Steve Hoffman, do you have the votes to overturn the governor's a veto
if he decides to veto this? Do you have the votes to overturn that?
Correct? The boat the House and Senate do. But there's also some
people will at times will flip their vote because they don't want to. They
don't want to do it. Override is that they don't feel that it rises
to that level. You know, we the House over rowed the smoking ban
earlier this week, and we'll see if the Senate takes that up. But
as the vote count goes, we had enough to override the veto are you
comfortable when you go to bed at night and that your head hits the pillow?
Are you comfortable you did the right thing? I think so, you
know, delaying this till a child can truly make their own decision, I
think is the right thing to protect them and and and so that they don't
have buyer's remorse. And so if I know there's lots of tom boys,
that the term was tom boyce years and years decades ago, that you're a
tomboy, that some girls want to do boy type things, and some boys
want to do girl type things. They're human type things, they're not gender
specific. And are you you've been around a while. I'm shocked that this
is an issue. I mean, if somebody had told me five years ago
that lawmakers would have to get together to make sure that teenage boys and girls
aren't given permanent changes to their genitelia based upon hormones and or surgery. I
would not have thought this is possible that somehow there'd be a large group of
people, generally with a multicolored hair, screaming, hollering and shouting about you
and those who don't understand health needs of a child. How do you separate
in your mind the idea that this has suddenly become an issue with Statistically,
it's about er point one percent of gender dysphoria, but according to some polling,
twenty five percent of high school boys and girls in Ohio are uncertain about
their own sex, their own gender, their own sexuality. The whole culture
is filled with sexual ideations every day in a regular basis. TikTok, etc.
Tells girls to be shameful of their own bodies, and it tells them
to have these stupid challenges. And we live in a society where I can't
believe this is even an issue to be discussed or approved by the legislature.
Say that a sixteen year old boy or girl cannot take a permanent type hormonal
therapy that'll change what they are, and that it's almost impossible to move back
five or ten years later from a childish decision. You probably, Senator,
did things when you were fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old that you look
back on and say, man, that was stupid. I know I've done
things in my life as a teenager. I'm saying, my god, that
was stupid, and I can't believe I did that. And so do you
see yourself as a lawmaker more or less overriding the opinion of a parent and
a children's hospital because some critics might say you know best, how would you
respond to that? You know, I've heard that criticism, and you know,
I don't know how we got to this point. I agree with you
that that I never foresaw this, you know, almost fifty eight years old.
I never foresaw something like this. Whatever happened, But you know,
growing up, they were you know, they were tomboys, and people dealt
with it. And I think it's a difficult situation for everybody, from the
parents to the children, to the doctors to the hospital. So, you
know, as the General Assembly, it feels we need to protect the children
to just say there's a pause to your appropriate appropriate age to make that decision.
And isn't it fair to say that the culture is telling teenage boys and
girls that to go through this hormonal therapy and then eventually surgery is normal and
natural. It is something that you should do so that the real person can
come out. And I'm listening to these arguments, i'mthing, well, if
the real person is going to come out, can you wait till you're eighteen,
nineteen or twenty to make that decision? And the activists say no,
that if a mother or father in a hospital say, okay, this child
is fourteen years old, they suffer from a hormonal dysfunction of one type genderness
for you, and we're going to begin to process of hormonally changing their their
DNA in a sense which cannot be done, and that we're gonna make it
a big political issue and beat Senator Steve Huffman over the head with it.
You would have thought, what world do I live in? Here? Again?
I agree with you. I ever thought we would get to this spot,
and uh, you know, we just have to keep moving on.
And uh, you know, I think, uh a lot of these negative
social things. You know, people keep looking at the General Assembly and emphasizing
on but I think we need to also look at the good things we do,
look at the three point one billion dollar tax cut. We put in
all the money we're giving to public education at choice. The General Assembly does
does a lot of good things, and uh, sometimes the media just likes
to talk about the more controversial stone. You know, the media is not
on your side when it comes to hormonal therapy and generous for you, and
you understand they think you're small town lawmakers. I don't know what the hell's
going on, but I'd put up with the media and their criticism. Secondly,
and lastly, about a minute remaining, there's a headline in the Inquiry
this morning, Ohio lawmakers, that means you deadlocked on changes to recreational marijuana.
The Senate passed it. I had the Governor on Tuesday or Wednesday and
he said one percent. I'm on board with the Senate and the House is
doing nothing. Is the headline accurate? Are you deadlocked on changes to recreational
marijuana? Well, the speaker who spoke and he was going to get home
and we weren't going to do anything, but hopefully come January we'll be able
to get something. It's look, the Senate is not looking to get rid
of recreational The people have spoken to that. We're trying to do some things
around the edge of public smoking. I don't want to sit at a ball
game of some guy smoking a joint next to my tan. You know,
open containers and cars, different life, see things. Twelve plants, twelve
plants. We're trying a lot of things. We're trying to do is to
discourage the black market and have a productive and safe for the citizens of Ohio.
Because right now, as we sit here this Friday afternoon, the state
issue too past, which means that I can walk around downtown Cincinnati, wherever
you can smoke a cigarette, you can smoke a joint right now, and
right now, I can grow marijuana in my home right now, and you
can grow it, you can possess it now. You can't buy it now.
You can't buy it for nine months, and that's just driving people to
the to the black market. And we were trying to make it effective immediately,
and you should go to the medical dispensaries where we know there's good quality
products. You would be able to buy it now. So we're going to
keep working on this. I spoke to the government again earlier this week,
and I know the Senate and the Governor's cater to get this dat as soon
as we can. Can you put up with all the criticisms from the transgender
crowd with three kinds of colored hair? Can you put up with that?
I can't. It was an interesting day the other day because on one side
of the Senate was hearings off the transgender and on all the other side was
Marijuana Committee discussing that. So there's an eclected group. In a few years
back. Could you have imagined Ohio overwhelmingly legalizing marijuana recreationally and uh a bill
in front of you which would permit and allow transgender rights and boys to play
girls sports. Would you have thought, what world am I living in?
I would agree, you know, I would look around and think I was
in California? But where the hell am I? Never thought this is impossible?
All right, we're Senator, good luck in the future. We'll see
what happens. We're going to try to find out today Monday if the Governor's
going to sign it. In the past he has opposed it, but it
appears that there's enough votes to override the governor's veto either way. But once
again, Senator Steve Huffman, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and keep
doing what you're doing. Senator, thank you very much. You take care
of Bill. Merry Christmas all too, God bless America. Thank you very
much. Senator. Right, let's continue with more. And no one here
or anywhere wants anything bad to happen to any kid who believes that their heart
and soul is in a different body than their mind can conjure. And that
is that. I want nothing bad to happen to some kid who think born
female, that's suddenly their male, or vice versa. It's a it's a
perplexing issue. In the past it was a psychiatric disorder. Now it's become
like a human right. So we'll see what happens down the road. Your
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We finally hooked up with Brian kill Meat of Fox News in the morning,
Fox and Friends. He'll be with us sometime after one o'clock today and more
a little birdie, you kind of whisper in my ear that it's very likely,
despite the protestations of some, that Governor Mike Dwaine is likely to veto
the bill because he has said before that he thinks these decisions about transgender girls
playing who males playing girl sports should be handled by association and by school districts
and not by the government in Columbus, because Mike DeWine has said before that
if it was put to a vote in Cincinnati or Columbus or Dayton, likely
get a different result than put to a vote in Claremont, Warren or Butler
County. And so the governor has said before that he'd rather have these issues
determined locally and not by state government. And we'll see what happens down the
road. As Senator Huffman said, it could be about ten days. The
governor could do neither and not veto it or sign it, which in ten
days from Wednesday, it would become the law of the land. Now,
for those who are happy about the decision of the governor to let local organizations
decide certain transgender rights, I would point out that the House and the Senate
and Columbus both have enough votes to override the veto, and so that's a
procedure that would take place sometime in the first part of January. I know
who has challenges with a teenage boy or girl, would have anything but my
sympathy in dealing with some mental difficulties that the teenagers have. I know there
was a long time in my life I was kind of lost, and I
get it completely, probably you too. And there's ideations all of us have
that were somehow locked in some wrongful body, and that the government will be
there to protect kids making decisions. There's all kinds of things those under eighteen
can't do, including drinking a beer, having tequilaus, smoking a cigarette.
There's a dozens and dozens of things that are fourteen fifteen, sixteen year old
cannot do, including driving a motor vehicle. Because we understand that children under
the age of eighteen that are fourteen fifteen, sixteen often have bad judgment I
know I had bad judgment. Did you have bad judgment when you were sixteen
and the horm owns are raging and the culture is telling you to feel and
act in a certain way. Yeah. Absolutely. Instead of point one percent
of our population having gender dysphoria, the number can now be as high as
ten percent because it is considered culturally socially acceptable to be an alternative lifestyle and
you get attention, and you get you get care, and you get to
focus, and so I get that completely. Maybe point one percent is too
low. Maybe it's point two percent have gender dysphoria that need to be treated
at some point when you when you're an adult. But we don't let a
fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year old make adult decisions that will have long term
impacts for the rest of their life, especially when it appears. According to
Riley Gains the Great UK Kentucky Swimmer, that the majority of boys annual girls
who transition ten years later have buyers remort they think they made a serious mistake.
And all this House Bill sixty eight does is say that decision should be
delayed until you're eighteen years old, and you can wait twelve to twenty four
months, and if you get to be eighteen, nineteen and twenty, you
want to go through a home runal therapy and then have the unkindnest cut of
all that's on your side of the table. But there's always been a role
of government to look after children in one sense or another, sometimes quite unsuccessfully.
But the goal has always been there to look after a fifteen year old
who's going to make a life altering decision without having all the information available and
without too many influences of others. But Mike DeWine looks at this a little
bit differently. He might change his mind later today, Monday or Tuesday,
but at this point he's leaning toward vetoing the bill, and then the House
and the Senate must go through the process of overriding the veto, which may
occur. The bill blocks transgender female student athletes from participating in girls' sports,
and you have to go into the locker room more or less reflecting your sex
at birth. And why is all this happening? I brought this up with
Senator Huffman about ten years ago. From maybe ten to twenty years before that,
there were literally hundreds of millions, probably billions of dollars donated to the
Human Rights Campaign HRC in Washington, d C. In order to effectuate recognized
a civil gay marriage all over the country. And they had a staff of
one hundred and fifty to two hundred. They had research papers, they had
lobbyists, they had individuals and state capitals all over America lobbying to get civil
gay marriage approved. And many states at that point had approved gay marriage gay
unions, the liberal states, of course, California, Oregon, Washington,
Massachusetts, New York. So what began to happen, and I saw this
in court, is that because of the US Constitution, every state must give
full faith and credit to the acts and warrants of other states. So that
means if you were married, say in Georgia, and you and your spouse
moves to Cincinnati, that the Ohio courts must recognize the marriage that began in
Georgia or any other state. And so what happened in the court system in
d R court domestic relations that over the years, because of Proctor and Gamble,
or because of fit Third Banker Centas, whatever it might be, Western
and Southern individuals would move into Hamilton County or Claremont County who were gay and
married legally in New York and things want awry, as often happens in every
marriage. And so the gay couple married in New York State living in Clermont
County would go to the Claremont County Domestic Relations Court and want their marriage to
be dissolved or go through a divorce and if children are involved, as far
as custody and child support and alimony, dividing all the assets. So the
courts in Ohio did not recognize gay marriage. So the courts in Ohio were
saying to these couples, I'm sorry, we have no jurisdiction. We can't
hear your case. They couldn't go to municipal court, they couldn't go to
probate court, they couldn't go to the General Trial Division. They had to
do what they were stuck in limbo. They could not go back to New
York State to have their marriage dissolved or to get a divorce because the assets
were not in the Empire State. They're in the Buckeye State. And besides
that, you have to live in New York State for eight months before you
have access to the court system on a divorce. And so suits were filed
in federal court claiming that Ohio is illegally and unconstitutionally not recognizing my legal marriage
in the state of New York. And so the case worked its way up
to the Supremes about ten years ago. The Supremes ruled that somewhere in the
Constitution is a gay marriage, and that because of the Full Faith and Credit
clause of the US Constitution, Ohio, Kentucky, or Indiana must recognize the
marriages in other states that were legally formed. When those individuals move into Ohio,
Kentucky, or Indiana and they live here sufficiently time to establish venue that
they have to have access to the court system. And so in one fell
Swoop, I think it was Justice Kennedy that wrote the opinion five to four
saying that every state must recognize the marriage conducted in some other state for jurisdictional
divorce purposes. And so they essentially they legalize gay marriage. They have large
numbers of people working on behalf a gay marriage, and one fell swoop,
with the stroke of a pen five to four, all the reasons for their
existence were gone. Well what do we do now we won? Well,
the smart thing to do would be to say you know what. We needed
to disband because basically we've succeeded with our mission, which we didn't think we
ever would, and we did by one vote in the US Supreme Court.
And it's because so many states enacted gay marriage in their state. The other
states had to recognize that marriage when those couples moved into a state into a
red state, so they swept it aside. Meetings were held, what do
we do. We have large numbers of donations coming in, we have buildings,
we have offices, we have benefits to pay, we have research papers,
we have lobbyists all over the place. They said, well, why
don't we try transgender rights? Is that going to work? And they thought
about other things they might try to keep the band together, keep the money
coming. Number one, you had have lots of research. Number two,
you have to have the medical community buy into it. Number three, you
had to have the tech giants continuing to fund this kind of stuff. So
they came up with the idea of transgender rights, which is a because homosexual
rights have been now incorporated within the US Constitution, I think our society is
wonderfully free of invidious discrimination when it comes to race, or religion or gender.
We have leadership of women and African Americans, Hispanics and gay individuals every
place, everywhere, and I'm fine with it based upon a meritocracy, and
I think everyone else is basically ninety five to ninety eight percent of us say,
okay, that's the way America is today. Let's get the best out
of everybody. When I went to law school in nineteen seventy one, we
had two female law students and seventy eight male law students at the University of
Toledo, and I specifically recall professors saying to that class, to those two
women that are sitting there on the front row, why are you here?
And the rest of us kind of chortled because it was a male profession,
Well I want to be a lawyer, And there was a sense that,
you know, I went up to them afterwards, good, what's your name,
I'm Bill Cunningham. Nice to have you. I wanted to feel make
them feel as women welcome in a completely male environment. Some fifteen years later,
when my wife went University of Cincinnati law school, it was the first
freshman class. Well, the majority of the first year law students were female.
Right now, that is absolutely the case judges, ceo justices, police
chiefs, sheriffs. There is no discrimination of some invidious character against a person
who's gay or female, etc. The only real discrimination taking place today is
against the Jews, but that's a different matter because of an of Semitism.
And so they switched from gay marriage to transgender rights. That has now metastasized
to boys stripping down nude inside girls' locker rooms to go swimming, or whatever
it might be. It's now morphed into something nobody could have conceived. We
should not allow a fifteen or sixteen year old to make a life altering decision
as a teenage boy or girl that the majority ten years later have serious reservations
about buyer's remorse, Why did I do that? And the fact that a
doctor or a hospital or a parent says it's okay doesn't make it right,
because all it does is delay the inevitable, if that's the case, until
a person is eighteen, and then have at it, go get them.
And so the human rights campaign has now latched on not so much to gay
rights, which I think is part of the American experience today. Without a
question, I would go to a competent a gay doctor a gay lay.
It wouldn't make any difference to me. Zero ziltch nada. I believe in
merit, and almost all the people around me an authority or female. And
that's okay because they earned it. I know my wife earned it. I
know Justice Sharon Kennedy in High Supreme Court. She earns it. I get
it, no problem, Fiji share from Hamlety County. I mean, she's
earned it, no problem, and I get it. It's wonderful. But
there's a line at which and parental loki, which is in location a parent
right that government may say to a sixteen year old, you know what,
why don't you delay that decision until you get to be eighteen. It's like
an adult decision made by a juvenile that almost any other aspect of life we
don't allow. So why would we allow this? The answer is the media
and the push by the left almost demands it. And so Mike DeWine issued
a statement quote, this issue is best addressed outside of government through individual sports
leagues and athletic associations, including the OHSAA. He said that in twenty twenty
one on a similar issue. So he's stuck now between a rock and a
hard place. Mike's a pretty traditional kind of a guy, but I also
think he's a small government guy that wants local individuals because the decision by Cincinnati
Public Schools might be different than the decision by Madeira Schools might be different.
So let them decide how to run these issues. And I get that too,
So we'll see what occurs. Let's continue. Coming up in about ten
minutes or so, We've scheduled Brian Kilmead Fox and Friends new book out he
has about Teddy Roosevelt and Booker T. Washington to talk about race relations and
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nine, seven thousand and every teenage, almost every teenager has problems of one
type or another. I know I did, probably you do. I did
not. It would have been horrible for me to make a decision when I'm
fourteen years old of a life altering consequence relative to hormonal therapy and or surgery
gender reassignment surgery. When I made that with a childish mind, were perhaps
led by well intended adults in the medical community, and maybe a parent or
two. But as a person, I'm glad I did not have to confront
the idea that I would make a life altering adult decision. When I'm fifteen
years old, I hope that's not the case. And when you're eighteen,
as Senator Huffman just said, have at it. We're talking about children making
lifetime adult decisions with a juvenile mind, and we hardly ever allow that to
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Billy cunning End The Great America one of the stars and Fox News. One
of the individuals I often see between my toes every morning is Brian Kilmeade,
who's also a prolific author. And I love the connections of Brian Kilmead's books
to today's events and how they had origins maybe one hundred to two hundred years
ago. The last two books was The President and the Freedom Fighter, about
Abraham Lincoln and Frederick Douglas in their battle to save our soul. Recent book,
out about a month ago, is Teddy and Booker T. How two
American icons blazed the paths for racial equality and the Booker T. Washington was
born in eighteen fifty six, a slave, became a counselor to the President.
More and first of all, Brian kill me, welcome again to the
Bill Cunningham Show. Why did you choose these two to write your most recent
book, Teddy and Booker T? Why these two characters? Well, so
much for citing the last one of the president freedom fighter. I also want
to prove to people that I'm not ducking our history. No one's proud of
slavery, no one's proud of segregation. No one's saying Jim Crow with the
good old days. Nobody thinks that. And I just said, why don't
I just bring people to a difficult time, And I apologize for the announcement.
I'm actually going down to Washington interview Kevin McCarthy. I just found out,
so I hopped on the sell it real quick, yeah, and one
in between cars. But what I wanted to do is tackle another guy that
was born with such bad asthma, that did not think he was going to
survive childhood, and that was Teddy Roosevelt. And then to see these two
unlikely friends combined, and he looked at Booker T. Washington as a great
American. And Booker T. Was mentored by some of the most impressive Americans
that you might not have heard of, General Armstrong over at Anthon College.
And then you might see Missus Rutner, You've probably never heard of her over
in West Virginia. But all these people saw greatness in this former slave who
ever had shoes until he was nine years old, never spilt to anything but
a dirt floor, and didn't know how to read or write until he was
ten, and he ends up being the most in the most influential people of
the generation. So I just thought, why don't I talk about how these
two came together, tell the story in parallel, and then see how they
met, and then go from there. And Booker t of course was not
formally trained, but he was brilliant. He also found a Tuskegee Institute.
One of the things he did, which was fabulous, talk about the first
meeting between these two characters. Because Teddy Roosevelt should not have been the president
of nineteen oh one from Ohio when William McKinley was shot assassinate. In today's
world, he probably would have lived back in nineteen oh went he didn't talk
about the first meeting between these two and why it took place. And they
thought he was going to live, as you know, Bill, they thought
he was going to be fine. You know, they say, it looks
like you know, they got tell you Roosevelt, who's on a hike.
And then I say, listen to president of the shop, he's going to
be fine. Next thing, you know, they said he died, said,
you're kidding me. Hoops on a train gets home. And prior to
that, when his vice president, he read up from Slavery, which was
the biography autobiography of Booker T. Washington. He couldn't believe it. I
couldn't believe it when I read it. That's what turned me on to this
book. And he reads up from Slaver and he says to his wife,
He's like a mike crazy, is this the best story you ever heard?
So Edith reads it and says, we got to meet this guy. So
they say, can we meet? They meet in New York City April to
have nineteen oh one. They said, you know, I got to come
down to T, says Key. He says, you're advited. It looks
see how we can work together. I want to be president one day.
I don't know if it's going to happen. Next thing, you know,
the meeting's called off because Roosevelt becomes president and he holds to his word.
He makes Booker T. One of his key advisors in the South. He's
like, I need needs to judges, postmasters, I need people I can
trust. I'm gonna trust your judgment and character now we don't think that's a
big deal, you and I and maybe our audience, But back then it
was a huge deal at this point in fact that they came together and he
was instrumental. But then Teddy Roosevelt started getting According to your book, Teddy
and Booker T caught some serious flak from meeting with a black man and describe
the flack that he caught for that. Yeah, thanks for reading it.
I mean, basically, it's what John McCain referred to after the Boston Barack
Obama And just because Booker T was in Washington and he's running Tuskegee and he
gets worded the president hears he's there, in stends a messenger and says come
from dinner, and there's a hesitation. He's like, I don't know if
you know, I don't know if that should be doing this. But for
Teddy Roosevelt, he did the same thing as governor. You're black or white.
If I'm in the middle of the meetings, just sleep over. And
he had no problem with that. He didn't think America had a problem with
that, but they did. They couldn't believe the black man ate with the
white man, with the President of United states who was white because the most
famous headlines you can imagine, I put him in the book and it really
set back their relationship, not personally, but they had to turn it back
and say, listen, we got to be smarter about this. You know,
there's certain parts of the country is just not ready. So let's deal
with the country. Part of the country it is. Let's work together,
but let's bring it down. And I know people listening say, why is
it a big deal of black, white American Indian? Why does it matter?
Back then, it mattered because reconstruction fell apart after the Compromise of eighteen
seventy seven, right and behaves and all the controversy with that that people always
refer to when they talk about the Trump and the problems with the delegates,
they always refer to this. We're just coming together of the Civil War and
there's about five states with the electrocologists fell apart. So they okay, president
is no problem. But if it Standuel Tilden is not going to be president,
then we were going to have a deal live these states. But these
states will get rid of the Union soldiers, we'll start covering ourselves. And
he said you better out walk back all the reforms we put in place,
and they said we won't, but they did. And next thing, you
know, we got Jim Crow laws, we have poll Daxes Bench. So
at that point in eighteen seventy seven, there was a deal made in which
the Republican would take the presidency on condition that federal troops will leave the South.
And that is what brought about the ku Klux Klan, and that's what
the Democrats in the South required. And so to get the presidency, Rutherford
B. Hayes had to agree to do certain things and he did it.
So then all hell broke loose over the next twenty four to twenty five years.
And at least Teddy Roosevelt had the idea, you know what, I'm
going to try to make this damn thing work, and he had somebody,
but he caught such serious flag for meeting with a black man in the first
dinner in the White House. I would assume ever, all those slaves I
think built the White House. He caught some serious flag for that. And
they did they ever meet again in person for the rest of his presidency.
Yeah, they did, but they would do it at four o'clock. At
eleven o'clock they wouldn't get awareed about dinner or lunch or anything like that.
And they were just smarter about it. And they would get together and they
would meet, and he would join the Tuskegee board. He would give the
commencement address, and he would be the one run of the people giving a
eulogi. The Booker T. Washington win when he passes away. So that's
how close they were. And that's how he wrote the forward to one of
his last books. So this is a relationship that really was one of mutual
respect. And Bill I also think about this. People say, you know,
how did they help? How about role model? You look up and
you see these guys together. You listen to Tate Roosevelt and he sings the
praises of Booker T. Washington. Booker T. Washington sing the praises of
the president. William McKinley was what was the first to speak at Tuskegee and
to see if if you're a young black man or a young white man,
you look up and say, hey, mom, deed, these people have
no problem. They don't worry about the colatures dead right, And that's what
you needed. It shouldn't be a benefit or a cost And I'll say this
in twenty eight when Obama was elected and he came out on that stage at
Grant Park, and they had his wife and his two girls with him,
who were of tender years at that point, and I watched Jesse Jackson crying,
and the media was filled with the idea, Okay, we're over the
hump. Race doesn't matter that much. We have a black president, a
black Attorney general, We've had black Supreme Court justices, black leaders of this
and black leaders of that. Is time to move on. Can you all
rate, just briefly about what happened to that moment. I look at your
book, Teddy and Booker t from nineteen oh one to the fight, the
squabbles until twenty eight when Obama's elected, and there's tears everywhere. Let's get
moving. How come America, Brian Kilmead has become so racial after the moments
on election night in Grand Park. I'll just offer my opinion, just from
doing this every day on radio and TV. I don't think it's nearly as
divided as it seems. I think the average person, you know, you
stop asking the directions, you go to a hotel, you don't think about
how many blast people, how many white people. But number two is I
think that there's a sense of retribution among some perhaps in the minority community,
of like, oh, we're going to fix the things the way they were
and now we're gonna own up to it. And that's not what Lincoln ever
talked about. That's how what Douglas ever talked about. That's not what Booker
Q. Washington ever talked about. You know. Famously Lincoln was like,
no, we didn't win a warld we gotta bring this country back together.
There'll be no punishment for seceeding. We gotta bring the country back together.
Frederick Douglas would push any proud and speak and he did great writer and his
newspaper and said things got to change. But he wasn't looking to get back
to the people that owed him that he had to escape to freedom, that
tried to get it back. In fact, he ends up going to see
him as he was in it the past days, to visit him and say,
no hard feelings, and that's who we got to get back to it.
You know, it's not where we started, it's where we are.
And there might be certain hurdles in life didn't matter, you know, they
don't like the Irish, or they don't like Italians, or they like people
that are taller or short or whatever it is. That's part of the American
experience. And I just think we got to understand that we just want an
opportunity, fixed outcomes. We got to get back to that. And I
don't think it's nearly as bad as Kaepernick made it worse, and US Women's
National team made it worse. All the collapsing of the NFL and all those
things made it worse. But I just think that now I think we're going
to get to the point where we've got to go out of our way to
say you're an American. We've got to stop with the black and the white
and the agent and all this stuff. And you know, if you want
to organize your campaign and decide what neighborhoods to focus on, that's just tactics.
It shouldn't be you divided under how who you like and who you don't
like, and who you can trust and who you can't trust. I think
you and I we get it, and I think more people get it like
we did. Yeah, I believe. So I've practice in front of black
judges, fellow black lawyers, fella radio talk show hosts, and you do
exactly the same thing every morning. I don't know. I think I have
a tough schedule. I'm on six days a week. Hell, you're on
from six hours every day at least between six am and noon. And then
also you're on a night and you're a prolific author. And if somebody has
said you were born New York City, wa about a minute remaining? You
going back twenty or twenty five years and said, Brian kill me, this
is your life as you're I believe you're about fifty eight to fifty nine years
old. This is the life that you've created the last twenty five years.
Would you have been satisfied? Absolutely? I mean, this has exceeded my
expectations. The only thing I said give myself credit for is to know how
great my job was early in ninety six and ninety seven, because I took
me twelve years to even get an interview to a place like this, And
I just said, there is no grass green. What's the most of this?
So can I do for Tony Snuff? Can I on the weekend show?
Could I be eligible to do a weekend show? You know? Can
I go cover sports rather than go get another job that had it. I
wanted to do it here and I think they appreciated it, and I don't.
I don't worry about the money and if the money comes when you get
there. One of my proudest moments was sports Phone. I was in nine
seventy six, twenty three one three every seven minutes doing another update I mean
twelve five hundred. But on my taxes I could write broadcaster and for that
I thought, Wow, I'm actually in the business. I can't believe it.
Well, I called you off there that James Brown the hardest working man
at Fox. I think Hannity works pretty hard, but I think Brian kill
Me puts in more hours and has a lot of influences, and Brian keep
it going. You make the connection between history and today. I look to
get back to the day where Teddy and Booker t could come together and discuss
problems. That race has no cost to you and race has no benefit to
you. It is simply you, as a person, represent no one,
bite yourself, do the best you can can do, and the fact you're
black or white or gay means nothing to me. It's what you do in
your life. Think we're close. Let's let's go the rest of the way
though, Brian kill made You're a great American and once again, thank you
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Get my best to everyone at Fox.
Thank you very much. We thank God bless you. All Right,
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out like it's like the Federal Reserve. Michael Walker, Michael another, Michael
Walker from the Cardinals. From the Cardinals, Reds are looking at him.
What happened? He goes to Kansas City, Gonna give me some pretty little
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underwent back surgery? He is out until at least the middle of the twenty
twenty four season, June or July. What and they just sign And the
Rangers just signed Tyler Malley yesterday, the former Red two year, twenty two
million. He may not even pitch next season. He's coming off Tommy John
surgery. Wait a minute, Malley signs two years, twenty two million with
the Rangers. And he's not gonna pitch next year, probably not until late
in the season. What if he did pitch, what is he gonna be?
I don't know. It's pretty good. Well, I think you only.
I think he only had like ten appearances with the Twins and then he
got hurt last year. I don't get it. Unbelievable, Andy Mack.
I don't know. I mean, I don't know what to tell you.
I don't know what to tell you though. I mean, but uh,
let's see what what to say? Uh oh uh. In honor of Coney
Island, you mentioned yesterday your favorite rides was the Tunnel of Love, the
Wildcat, the Wildcat and Shooting Store. And also you like to go to
Moonlight Gardens. Yes, I did dance with the First Lady. Yes,
Well, what about the Lost River? We did? I thought that was
well. I did the Lost River. What about the log Flume, That's
another one. I went down Turnpike where you drove the cars. I don't
think I probably probably did better. And what they got out on the road.
Now, what about the sky Ride? I remember that all the way
across right. I remember the Tunnel of Love flying scooters. Pretty good stuff
there, and the tumble bug. You think it's possible that city council can
seize control of Coney Island? What the city council incinnati? Is it?
Someone needs to tell them it's not in the city. It's not in the
city. Thanks in Anderson Township? Then go But where they're going to annex
Anderson Township? Yes, they're gonna have Let me guess what brilliant person on
city council wants to do this. I think it was Jeff kramerting that guy's
sloaney had them on. Well, didn't don't they know the boundaries of their
own town? No? Well, what is this they want to keep?
They want to keep the pool? Yea, for those with the big fat
tattoos, go to the pool. I've been to that pool. Have you
been to the pool? The pool's about as big as as half of this
county. Three million gallons of water. City council wants it three million gallons
of water? Three million m take out. Take that to who's going to
pay that water works bill? We'll have it. You know what, We'll
have a levee. Well how about this, Well they can't do that,
can they? No? I was gonna say that is a county. People
want to get out of the city, and they want people to go into
the city Anderson Township and the trustees there because I'm not going to do the
City's gonna have to go with Alisha Reese and then they they they run the
county, right, yeah, with an iron grip. Well, talk to
Ali, Well, talk to Denise Treehouse and Stephanie Stephanie Dumas. Yeah,
talk to them. I mean, doesn't that guy know that? Does that
guy know his own boundaries of his city? No, the Island Queen used
to go from the public landing packed, go up to Coney Allen and back
drop them off, right, come back and just go back and forth.
Exactly. Those are the days. Yeah, I never did that, but
that that was that Tunnel of Love is I spent my time along with the
Shooting Star and the Wildcat and the tumble Rumble. If you like the log
flume that's gone, maybe city council will. Did you spend time with your
better half on the sky? I was the nighth grader, she was the
seventh grader, and she says, let's go to the Tunnel of Love.
And I said, honey, I'm right behind you. Let's go and then
you go to the tunnel of love. You don't recall that, No do?
I was with you don't tell me you're going to call her? She
said, don't you ever call I was gonna say, don't do it.
By the way, I got especially that topic. Got a text here from
Pete Whitty on the west side. Is he is he in an annexed Cody
Island city is going to seize Kenwood country Club? What? What? What?
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, you're gonna have my seven iron
here? Pull my dead cold fingers off that Wait a minute, is that
true? Where's the lpg A gonna go? Then? Don't know that's not
coming back, by the way, but Pete Whitty says that, uh city
of Cincinnati is going to seize ken What country Club? So I don't know
what to tell you, But I mean that doesn't that councilman know where his
city boundaries are? No, it has no clue. First, what would
they do with the I mean, what else are you going to do with
a pool? Then after that Norwood, the city of Cincinnati wants to seize
Coney Island Chembic country Club and Norwood, Great, let's have that. It
I don't know. I've already got price, So what else do you want?
Yeah, it's beyond my comprehension. Moved Sunlight pooled downtown. They want
to get out of the city. I don't know, it's unbelievable. I
just want to knock my head up against the wall with these people. What
if you had Charmaine McGuffey tee it up against Chief Fiji, City of Cincinnati
versus Sheriff's office. Who do you like in that matchup? We're talking to
the Army, the Navy, the air Force, get all the elements of
the City of Cincinnati against Hamny County Sheriff's office. Who do you like?
Because I guarantee you the sheriff is gonna defend Coney and as much as she
can. But then you got this city under orders of city council to attack,
and the seas Coney Island got there, but the pool anymore, well
they went. Maybe they want the tunnel leave too. They got the Christmas
lights going. Which are you're just saying there's gonna be one hell of award.
At some point you went the city cops or is this going to be
like a hand to hand commas? Yes, like the I d F and
Hamas Hamas Harambe's Harambe's texting me what Arambe? Now we got a scoop.
Look at that, Look at Arambe. The spirit of Harambe lives at Coney
Island. Well then then you got then you got problems, major problems.
Right then I got a texta sacred ground. Rob Sanders, do not try
to seize Kentucky. We have guns, so you're gonna have an expansionist city.
So after Coney, Norwood and Covington, so Aft tab can't get take
him for Covington and Newport, then General Lisimo and Florence they better know better,
they better they better not try to seize anything bell Tucky. Rob Sater
says, we have guns. But it's like the city of Cincinnati wants to
take over Bellevue and Gary Jeff. Oh that's too much, asked. I
don't know anybody wants and they want Covington too. When nobody wants Gary Jeff.
Well, I'm just saying, except I respect and love. What would
city council do with that port? I don't know. They want Kenvick Country
Club. They want to take Reeves and United Newman and also have Kenwood Country.
About California, California. I don't want California. That's a terrible state.
No, No, I mean the golf course. Oh yeah, I
don't know. But how about taking control of Covington. Can you see maybe
Fiji late at night? What about tab A La Napoleon rolling right across at
this suspension bridge. I'd fall down under the weight, that's right. It
could be crossing the aft to be crossing the Ohio right at the front half
tabs Now? Would Rob Sanders be sitting there in the bunkers? A K
A D. You didn't answer my question. What Sheriff's office McGuffey versus Thiji
and the city cops? Who do you like? I'm taking Richard K.
Jones to white out exactly. Get Jones down here. The sheriff wants Westchester
and everybody else. He wants to kick some ass. That's right, like
mister, certainly like the wrestler along with PG Pureval. I don't know PG.
I mean, you gotta know your I mean, no one, shut
your mouth and you and your boundaries of the city. He wants. He
seized the swimming pool. What's he gonna do with it? Move it?
Move it down. You're gonna move We're you gonna move it down to the
off or right off of Columbia Parkway. Put it right next to the boat
house about a mile. Go. Let Dean Gregor deal with it. There
you go. I'm going to see a match up. The wise words for
that, Cincinnati Mayor, know your role is shut your mouth. He cost
us the super Bowl already, PG Pureval cost us the super Bowl. Where's
he been? You haven't seen him with a told me to keep a low
profile, okay, and he is. Well. The rail thing too is
kind of not not not good. But they passed but not but that's been
the old behind but they won. I got to get Amy Murray on at
some point because what's happening now with all that one point six billion? How's
that looking? I don't know where is it? Not around here? I
think it's supposed to close in January. But I'm going to go to a
holder. Jazz Charlotte. There there's the guy right, Chazz and Sheriff Joe.
When you had strike run the Tri States striker against Simon Leeese, tough
matchup, Fiji against McGuffey. Throw in Richard K. But Richard K.
Would work with believe it or not, Charmaine McGuffey because they're friends. Yeah,
so we don't want to get that out because associations with the sheriff of
Butler County doesn't work well quite often. Right, so, but he's texted
me to indicate he stands with McGuffey. I said, she don't need that.
Well, then where's Chas come in on all this? Chazz will be
like the titular head of the new government. Walmart can track a pair of
socks, and you guys can't track a train car that's got a dangerous chemical
in it for half a year. Or maybe Chans will keep the sunlight pool
and he'll just use it for himself. Chazz would enjoy the pool or just
have Chaz's pool parties splashing around all right, segment Give me out of the
Stuge Report coming up next. As a person with some criticisms of Barack us
Saint Obama believe it or not? What believe it or not? Who you
have it on? George Bush or something? Can't say give me out of
the Stuge report? Well? And honor of the Bengals Vikings and who day
Land tomorrow getting a victory against those vikes. We leave you with the immortal
words of the Stood report. And by the way, if they do that
means not a joke, everybody. That's why we've defeated. In twenty eighteen,
when they tried to do it, we went to fifty four states.
Line's traveling with Obama, he had fifty seven states. I guess they've taken
three away. Well, they take a couple of provinces in Canada or something.
What if Justice Clarence Tomrigo or the Virgin Islands receive the same media type
coverage that Obama received. Oh be a mess. I don't know what to
tell you. You don't do you? No, let's continue. We got
to go. I'm taking the sheriff against the chief on news Radio seven hundred
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Costain Obama is mentioned. Every head must bow, every knee must bend to
again this morning on one of the talk shows about Obama appearing with Joe Biden.
My god, was that embarrassing. But nonetheless, whenever Obama shows up
anywhere, most of the American people go crazy like the Beatles are about to
reunite. And then you also have the circumstances of Michelle Obama, who some
perceive in August will be the nominee of the Democrat Party in Chicago. By
that point, who knows the mental acuity of one Joe Biden. But a
book is out, Racism, Revenge and Ruin. It's all about Obama.
Plus it's received a little bit of attention. That is, the Obamas,
who have made tens of millions of dollars from Netflix, have a new documentary
out in which says things are said by the actors they're in greatly about white
racism and how that holds black folks back joining you and on now? Is
that same Scott McKee, I'm sorry, Scott McKay. Scott McKay the author
of Racism, Revenge and Ruin It's all about Obama. McKay, Welcome to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, let's go may we go
back in time just a little bit. Of course, when I watched the
twenty eight campaign unfold, normally, if there was a candidate largely unknown nationally,
that had attended a church for twenty five years of black racism, the
chickens coming home to roost, that Jeremiah writes, etc. That that would
have destroyed the candidacy of a person who for a quarter of a century attended
a racist place because it was a black liberal, not a black conservative.
Because look how the media treats Clarence Thomas, a black liberal gets special treatment.
From that point to the so called Beer Summit with about Professor Gates,
to Trayvon Martin to Michael Brown, there's been a hands off, kids clove
approach to Obama and everything he does. So before we talk about the Netflix
film put out by the Obama describe the media coverage of Obama starting at seven
and eight and how it fed into the idea that he's the next president.
Well, I think you absolutely nailed it. There's a couple of things,
you know. The first part of it is Barack Obama was never vetted the
way a presidential candidate in the United States of America is expected to be vetted.
And something that prevented that vetting has sort of metastasized into a problem throughout
American culture, which is cancel culture. If you attempted to tell the truth
about who Barack Obama was and what his background was and what his agenda would
necessarily be as a result of that background, whether it's talking about Jeremiah Wright,
whether it's talking about Bill Ayers, who ended up being the most influential
thinker when it came to American education, and he's the reason that K twelve
education in America is nothing but woke in doctrination these days. Like that was
never vetted. The big thing that was never vetted was Obama's relationship, whether
it's as a biological son or at the very minimum an intellectual and ideological son
of Frank Marshall Davis. That absolutely wasn't vetted. So much so that in
Dreams from My Father, which is sort of the origin mythology of Barack Obama
disguised as an autobiography, that almost certainly was ghost written by Bill Ayers,
Frank Marshall Davis's reference twenty two times. Now he's not referenced as Frank Marshall
Davis, He's just called Frank. But that was, you know, when
the book came out back in the what late nineties. A few years later,
when they did the audiobook version of it, they scrubbed all twenty two
of those references out. And there was no Frank, and so you know
it's bad, you know, like and interestingly enough, you know, there's
this big controversy about was he born in Kenya and what about the birth certificate
and all that kind of stuff, and you know that's almost like a limited,
modified hangout because you know, the real truth of the matter is when
Obama moved back to Hawaii when he was ten, his grandfather brought him around
to see Frank Marshall Davis periodically the rest of the time he lived in Hawaii,
Okay, and the guy was a mentor for him. Now, there's
zero reason why you'd bring Barack Obama to go see Frank Marshall Davis unless there
was some other connection there other than you know, Frank Marshall Davis was the
only black guy that old Man, or Barack Obama's grandfather knew, and so
you know, there's some reason to believe that there may be a genetic connection
there, regardless of that Communist Party USA stooge who had been a newspaper editor
in Chicago for a communist paper and a columnist for communist paper in Honolulu.
Now, now every Obama did as president well, jumping ahead to twenty twenty
three, almost twenty twenty four. Now we're at a circumstance having gone through
eight years of Barack Hussein Obama, and one one thing is directly in my
mind forever, and that is the night of the election at Grant Park in
Chicago, Illinois, November of twenty oh eight. I'm looking at the face
of the Reverend Jesse Jackson in complete tiers and many said, we now understand
the mission of Obama is to heal the nation racially. And I thought,
in the back of my mind, Jesse Jackson is now thinking the gig is
up. I'm not going to used race anymore to make a lot of money.
But maybe maybe I think differently. But instead of bringing the country together,
whether it was the Beer Summit, Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, for
the next eight years, as soon as the policies of Obama got sidetracked they
didn't work, he quickly played not just the race card, the entire deck
and separated America, which continues through today. Describe, if you can,
Scott McKay, then the new movie put out by the Obamas now it is
Obama shall always say unbridled. What's it about? Well, I think that
that's a very good setup. What I would also say is Barack Obama his
entire value proposition was as a candidate, was that he was going to be
this racial healer, that he would prove America was not a racist country.
How could it if you elect the black guy? And all of that was
the largest bait and switch in the history of American politics. And what you
really see, interestingly enough, it's like a fictional story, but it tells
so much truth about how the Obamas actually see the world is this leave,
you know, leave the world behind where you you know you got. The
world is ending, and you've got a black family and a white family and
they're you know, they can't work together because they hate each other over racial
lines, and that absolutely is not human experience. When you get in a
crisis situation, people tend to come together for their own benefit, and in
this case, they stay apart. And what's happened is on a human level,
almost everyone I have ever spoken to, and I've done this a long
time, have great personal relationships with those of a different race. Mono and
Mono, Hey, no problem, we get along. But the media and
others want to completely separate, and I think it's a canard to say it's
about race. If it was about race, then Justice Claren Thomas and Senator
Tim Scott would be the two favorites in the national media for positive coverage.
But Laren's Thomas gets zero zero positive coverage. He's he's as black as can
be. I've anim on my show a few times, great man, great
Justice, but he's always attacked viciously, not because of in spite of his
race, because of philosophy. So Scott McKay, am I correct in stating
it's not about race. If it was about race, Senator Tim Scott would
be the leading nominee for the Republican nomination. What it's about is ideology using
race as a vehicle to get there. Your comments, well, and this
goes I mean, it goes back a bunch of different ways. But what
comes to mind to me is, again, Frank Marshall Davis's columns in those
newspapers constantly picked at the scab of race. Uh. And you know,
made the argument that Stalinist Russia had solved racism and that it was tearing America
apart, when when the exact opposite was true. And then you know,
I kind of fast forward a little bit to just before Obama got in the
presidential race in you know, two thousand and six or something. He gives
this interview and he talks about how there is no individual salvation without collective salvation,
meaning that the black community can't advance unless the government pulls everybody who's black
up. And somebody like Clarence Thomas is an anomaly and doesn't count because he's
you know, he's risen through his own merits, Like you can't have that
because somebody has to use political power to make it work. And that gives
the game away because Obama Democrats use race to promote collectivism. They don't use
race to promote black people. And I think we've seen that. You're seeing
it with the what's her name Claudine Gay situation at Harvard. You certainly see
it with this divisive misanthropic movie the Obama's made, see it with everything Joe
Biden's administration does that can be, you know, even remotely tied to race.
It's all dei and all of these these awful things that are you know,
built to destroy relationships between people, whether it's in the workplace or in
schools or what have you, rather than letting people advance on their own merits,
which is what America is about. And one of the things that you'll
find in racism, revenge, and ruin is, you know, we keep
coming back to the to the concept and the fact that Barack Obama hates America
as founded and as evolved and everything that you see over the last sixteen years
or whatever since he became a prominent national political figure president ex president sort of
because he certainly doesn't feel like an ex president now president unless you think Joe
Biden actually runs the country in which Mace you know, here's a cookie for
you. But like, you know, ever since he came on the scene,
okay, it's been you know, people get tempted to believe that things
that are these changes that are being made in America are organic or that this
is just how society has evolved. And that's not true. Okay, all
of this was contrived and it's been executed, and the primary mover of all
of it since two thousand and seven has been Barack Obama. Well, and
until we recognize that and deal with it, we can't stop it. Well,
Scott McKay, I'll say this that the two or three thousand former Obama
officials that currently run the executive branch of government. And it's not it's not
Joe Biden or Joe Biden, it's the two or three thousand main bureaucrats around.
That's why we have his and her pronouns. That's why we have a
military that's gone woke. That's why we have DEI principles everywhere benefiting generally white
liberal females. That's why we have requirements for evs to be by federal government
employees. It's all the takeover beneath the radar of the bureaucrats that run the
largest branch of government, which is the bureaucracy. And before I let you
go, one other thing, I think in August in Chicago, when all
hell's breaking loose and that Joe Biden once again has demonstrated mentally ill equipped,
and the media won't cover him either. I can only imagine if Trump engaged
in the malapropism and the mental vacuous conditions of Joe Biden, how the media
would deal with Donald Trump. But I can certainly see in Chicago that Michelle
Obama is going to have a prominent role in the convention and that she will
be drafted to be the nominee of the Democrat Party with maybe I don't know,
pick a Senator Kine or somebody underneath her, and she's gonna She's the
only one that can tell Kamala Harris. Look, I'm a black female.
I got this. You go to California, Joe Biden. Give me an
LBJ statement from March of nineteen sixty eight. Do you think it is likely
or are certain that the Democratic Party, if the pulling indicates that they're in
trouble, are going to trot out Michelle Obama and Barack Obama in Chicago in
August. Well, I would say this. I think what stands in the
way of that is that Michelle doesn't want it, and it's hard to tell
Michelle what to do. But if you get over that obstacle, I have
absolutely no objection to what she said, because I don't think Biden is viable.
And right now they are painted in such a corner because whoever the nominee
is has got to be an Obama puppet of some stripe. You know,
they're stuck with Kamala if they can't go with Michelle. And I don't think
Kamala is a I think she's a non starter as well. So this is
going to be the thing that you're going to hear them on the left pining
for. And the question is can you get her to do it? Because
if you can, then you know, it's all aboard the Obama reducks train
for it's over. Because the suburban, especially suburbanites and females, their eyes
glaze over. They simply look at Michelle Obama. Whenever Barack Hussein Obama is
is introduced anywhere, that the knees bend and the and the heads bow,
and this is the guy we want right there. I watched it on the
Morning Show today, Biden with Obama. That was embarrassing, and I'm thinking,
Okay, if that happens, she ma's what you forget about Trump and
whatever it's it's gonna be Michelle Obama and she's gonna take over. Let somebody
else run the presidency. Hell, someone else does right now. Anyway,
It's not as if Biden's in charge of anything. All the Obamaites are in
charge of the executive branch of government, giving us all this crap and there's
nothing we can do about it. Scott McKay once again, racism, revenge
and ruin. I want the media to treat Clarence Thomas the way they treat
Barack Hussain Obama. Is that possible, I'll sew for the media treating Obama
the way they treat Clarence Thomas. Yeah, let's have that, because then
you get some real vetting and people realize, oh my god, you actually
have with this guy who's dominated the country for the last sixteen years. Oh
my god, Scott McKay, you're a great American. Thank you for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Scott, Thank you, sir.
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who campaign Bill Cunningham and Cincinnati went out at a rally for McCain, introduced
McCain. Well he didn't introduce him, but he got the crowd rouled up.
He did a warm up for the for the later appearance by McCain and
referred to Obama with his full name of Rock Hussein Obama. McCain went into
a tizzy and denounced Cunningham, and he denounced all kinds of other people who
were supporting McCain and trying to rally supporters for McCain. Anytime they said anything
about Obama that McCain didn't like, something as innocuous as mentioning his middle name,
McCain denounced them, distanced themselves. You wonder why the Republican Party lost
in North Carolina. Remember the great ads the North Carolina Republican Party ran and
McCain denounced them, demanded they pull the ads down. Hello, quiet and
I'm Scot I'm broadcasting. So I got a call from Joe Eaters and Rob
Portman. Wow, there's a duo two thousand and eight, taken over the
tri State. They want to seize control of the Kenwoock Town Center, make
a part of the city. That's a Joe. So they say, we
got McCain coming to town, and you know the bomb is going to be
at UC later in the day. He's going to have fifteen twenty thousand people
going out that Bobcats. The devo tays, how about that Bobcats? Anyway,
and so they said, can you fire up the crowd? Get there
about ten thirty yr one eleven. I said, look, Rob, I
got to get out of there by quarter till twelve because I'm literally on the
air at twelve oh five. My god, drive up the HOUCHI min trail.
Correct, it'll be overwhelm but I said great. So I take the
stage at ten minutes after eleven am. I'm about Memorial Hall and over the
Rhine, next door to the Musical Right, and there's few, if any
people there. So Joe I think it was clerk at Courts at the time,
and called the Prosecutor's office. We need bodies here. We have all
the media has arrived and no one's here welcoming McCain, and they've lined up
for the last few hours to hear the devotay of Barack Hussein Obama. You
see right, So they call walk over delay eleven twenty. I start talking
and Rob says, look look off to the right, and when McCain arrives,
I'll give you the cut, slice the throat movement. In other words,
wrap it up. Yeah, And so he said, talk for ten
minutes. He's five minutes away. I said, okay, I'll look off
to my right. After ten minutes of great orifying. By the way,
it was wonderful, Okay. I look over at Rob. He's doing this
like stretch it out baby taffy between us, like Jesse Jackson, and secondly
and thirdly Tony Resco and fourthly Frank Marshall Davis, and I go on and
on. I look over and he's still stretching town going oh boy. And
at this point there's almost people there. I'm running out of fuel. I
used the name Barack Hussein Obama. Which what name did he take at the
inaugural? That's the one bingo, right, So I had to scidadle out
of there. Eleven thirty five and I get in my car and drive up
the ho Chi Min trail to get to Kenwood. Right, okay, good,
right, things are good. I'm thinking okay. When I left,
Rob Portman said that was wonderful. There was an advanced guy from John McCain
that said, that's the best intro we've heard. Thank you very much.
I said, hope, you're welcome. So I'm start getting calls from area
code two one two and two O two, which is Washington d C in
New York. And I'm on the air and look at this to it too,
what the NBC news. I'm going and Tom Broke all he wants me.
Peter Jennings wants to talk to me. ABC Wow, I said,
well, Wald, I'm not sure he was in so I'm going. So
about one oh five I returned the call, seemingly your friend. John McCain
went after me hard for improper introducing him by using his opponent's real name.
Well, who is he running against, Barack? Who's Saint obamacats there's the
Bombcats? Tell him it's the bearcats where they're not in Athens there, Barack.
Can you imagine if Clarence Thomas received the same media coverage of Obama,
Oh, he would be the most popular Supreme Court justice of all time,
or what if Obama was covered the way Clarence Thomas has been covered. So
it's not about race, It's about audiology. And race is the vehicle to
impose the ideology and has shut people like you up. And you will not
be shut up. No one. No one puts you in a corner and
tells you to shut up. Yeah nobody is that true? Yeah it is
okay, Go ahead, will Hey the stude Reporter's Approach service, every local
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Heating and Koli five one three one sixty nine hundred spot and Michelle Obama is
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the pride of Cole Rain and UCLA wall. You telling that twit to
quiet down a little bit. The wide wide receiver Justin Jefferson, who suffered
a a chest injury last Sunday against the Raders, is questionable now for tomorrow.
That's the lait. What Burrow's running mate from LSU? Correct, Well,
I don't know what to tell you. What about LSU. They can't
get players to stay healthy well. And then last night, of course,
the Raiders, who four days ago lost that game to the Vikes three to
nil, absolutely embarrassed the Los Angeles Chargers last night, sixty three to twenty
one. There you score zero in one game in sixty three in the other.
The Chargers fired the head coach Brandon Staley and GM Tom Telesco this morning.
Gone after that, after that loss. Gone. Now I have a
vision, and I know you laugh and snicker at me, that the Bengals
are gonna beat the Vikings, right, gonna beat Pitts. Sounds good.
It's gonna beat k C and their barbecue. They're gonna run the table.
You're saying, go and that and you'll rolled into the postseason downtown. Jake
brown Ing is gonna take the Bengals to the playoffs, to the super Bowl,
and we're gonna have a quarterback controversy come next summer camp, assuming Joe
Burrow can actually play. I don't think the Bengals will mind that if they
win the super Bowl. Win the super Bowl, it doesn't make any difference
who's the starting quarterback next summer. Who cares. They're the champs. That's
all and all that. That's all that, Matt, do you put him
first? And do you put Joe? That's all up to UH, Duke
Tobin, Mark Duffner, and uh and Zach Taylor. I have a rule.
Bill Belichick had the same rule in twenty oh one. When you take
the team to the super Bowl, he's hating life. Now we win and
you're the MVP. Right, you're the starting quarterback? Correct? So Jake
brown you're calling Jake Browning to be the NFL MVP. Yes, something wrong
with you. College football, The bowl game season kicks off tomorrow Miami RedHawks
in Orlando and the Cure Bowl against app State at three point thirty. And
also, good luck to Owe you Bobcats the home of Tom Brenneman and also
ken Brew uh and also who else is in there? Because somebody told us
they went to Was it Frank Marzulo? I like, I like Frank.
Somebody let us have it on the X that we forgot them. I like,
I like Frank, Bob Katz and and Georgia Southern and the Myrtle Beach
Bowl. The Myrtle Beach Bowl. Yeah, I think the UH. I
think the winning team gets a vacation there. Never heard of it. No,
they used to do that with the winner of the in the Kentucky Speedway
Xfinity Race brought to you by Myrtle Beach. The winning team got a h
got a free UH vacation Myrtle Beach. Yeah. I've been there a few
times. Very nice community. Let's see UH college basketball tomorrow. They're going
to renew the rivalry elease for one year. Bearcats and Flyers and Heritage Bank
Center at six thirty on seven out of WLW. I got a text here
from Tom Weavement about the city of Cincinnati and xing Kenwood Town Center. Wow,
is that possible? They're not messing around? Are they? Winthrop and
Xavier at seven on fifty five KRC Kentucky and North Carolina tomorrow night at Ohio
State and Mick Cronin in Ucla and then in Indianapolis Number one Arizona v.
Number three per Due. I'm gonna call him Mick Cronin with your permission.
After I get off the air. I don't call coaches anymore on the air.
You know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying. Baseball Red's
single game tickets for the red Spring training home games are on sale now at
the reds dot Com Slash Spring. They'll open things up there to win the
Cactus League. February twenty fourth against those Guardians. Max Schurzer looks like he
had back surgery. He's out until at least JUNI or July of twenty twenty
four, and he gets paid forty five million dollars. Then go Tyler Glass,
now traded to the Dodgers. He just gets a new five year,
one hundred and thirty five MILLI deal, and Michael Waka, who was also
targeted by the Reds, goes to the Kansas City Royals in a two year,
thirty two million dollar deal. And if the red stay healthy, they
don't need starting pitching, but they don't stay healthy, so they need starting
pitching. And also, happy birthday today to Jonathan India, He's a good
man. Jonathan in is also second, we think. Also last night the
Sticky Bandits won the C Plus Dart League in the Steel Tip Steek Stick League
and darts at a local establishment around the town. So apparently the city of
Cincinnati is going to have a big parade and celebration soon for the Sticky Bandits
winning the the C plus Dart League. What are you talking about, well,
darts somebody, Cincinnati's going to have a parade for the dark champions.
Yeah, and the Steel Tip Stick League. Try to get that on a
hat. Where do you get this information? Can't say from Rocky boyman.
No talk about the girls, the women's volleyball. I think the Sticky Bandits
beat Notre Dame in this the Sticky Bandit, it's a club sported Notre Dame.
Notre Dame darts problems. Plus, of course Coney Island shutting down eighteen
eighty six, just the Sunlight Pool opened in nineteen twenty five. Well,
Cincinnati sees power and take over Coney Island. What about the Lost River who
has memories of that, the log Flume, what about the Tunnel of Love,
the Turnpike, the sky Ride. I kind of vaguely recall the flying
scooters that's at the Flying Saucers. What about the tumble Bug and the Tunnel
of Love, the famous Shooting Star. I was there along with the Wildcat,
yep, and the Shooting Star was the was the one before all the
beast and everything else at King's Island, right, Shooting Star was it?
But now city council is angry about shutting down the pool and they want to
seize power, take over. It's not in the city. That don't make
any difference. They want to expand the city. They want to strike a
deal with Frank Zeibel to do ACR gunnight spas and pools inside the present swimming
pool. You mean sunlight. I don't get it. It's three million gallons
of water. That's a little. But they also want to see as many
gallons of waters from Pittsburgh to kro Illinois. They want to seize Kenwood Country
Club too. Who does the city and they probably all want to play golf
there for nothing nothing. They play for nothing in Newman in California than Avon
and they want to challenging course. Finally, like we'll come up to Kenwood,
but they seize power there. It's going to be ugly. And then
somebody said that they want to take over the Kenwood Town Center. Tom Weiedman
has a guard up in front of the town Center because Chief Thiji may show
up with an armed force to seize power and charmade. Mcguffey's boys are gonna
respond. We could have a war in Montgomery Montgomery Road. If that happens.
We got action. We've got some serious action. Tanks, tanks,
troops, helicopter borders, drones from the river. So I have I assume
we got a artillery boat, artillery shooting from the river. So fireworks gonna
gonna John Barretts gonna shell Kenwood Town Center. And wouldn't that be something?
Yeah, that would be something, some serious action. Boy. So I
don't know what to tell you. I don't either, but we'll see what
happens. Tomorrow is a big one. If they lose tomorrow, shall we
say a little difficult. It's kind of like that song by Roy Orbison.
It's over maybe. Well, you got Pittsburgh there, and you got Kansas
City there, and then you got here, that Brown's Hereland and Cleveland.
That's true, Joe Flacco, but there's still Cleveland. We'll see what happens.
Say give me out of the students report. I have great concerns everywhere
that there may be a war happening inside Hamilety County between the city and the
county. And I want to know where Elisa Reese and Denise Treehouse will be
if city council declares war on Coney Island, where would the county be?
Their loyalties might be divided, Willie and Utter of Coney Island. Long may
it live. We leave you with the immortal words of the Stude Report.
And your weekend looks fabulous. Thank you, Frank. I think that was
Frank. Is he a know you man? Do you know? I don't
think so. I think he got mad the last time because we were mentioned
all these weather people and we didn't mention him, so he got the rump.
I like Frank me too. You may not care for it was a
good job, but I do. I like Jennifer Ketchmark maybe more than anyone.
She's a hockey player. I like, I mean a hockey coach.
How many women playing coach? Talking, not many, not talking you guys.
Yeah, she's got she's tough, she's mean, she's mean, she's
got a system. She's ugly, not physically, but you know when she
coaches correct, she's tough. Right, Well, let's continue seg I'll see
you. Everything go smoothly on Monday, all right, Well, everybody have
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