WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.359 --> 00:00:27.800 Yo, what's going on? What's uh like? It's another episode of Mechanic 2 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:33.399 Ass. I'm Canada, Dave and I'm Groovy. Today's episode, we got 3 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:37.079 tons of things happening within the cannabis industry. Got a couple of shops closing 4 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:46.159 up in the up. We have YEAP voting uh is coming up this Tuesday. 5 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:50.920 You're gonna be able to vote for legal Bud in Ohio and then also 6 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:54.079 in Rochester. They're voting in Rochester, Michigan, they're voting. They have 7 00:00:54.119 --> 00:01:00.840 dispensers. So we posted a graphic on that which is pretty hilarious. Check 8 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:04.040 out our ig. It's called Save Rochester. They're against the dispensary. So 9 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:10.480 hopefully when we talk next we will say that dispensaries will be allowed in Rochester. 10 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:19.920 We got news happening with Cleveland School of Cannabis. Also news from the 11 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:23.079 South By Southwest Festival. They're and me focusing more on psychedelics and not so 12 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:27.879 much cannabis next year. Moving forward, so you can start to see the 13 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:32.200 waves are starting to change. We've talked about it here on the podcast Groovy. 14 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:37.000 Where psychedelics now are becoming the forefront pushed moving forward, starting to see 15 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:40.640 them legal in states and then also decriminalized, So this just looks like another 16 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:45.359 move. So I think we're going to jump right into this article first. 17 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:47.640 Oh, and we're also going to talk about the perfect package and what that 18 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:51.840 means to us, because everyone's always talking packaging and we rate it in all 19 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:53.799 of our reviews. So me and Groovy we're going to dive into that and 20 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.799 tell you what our ten out of ten packaging would be. But before we 21 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:01.840 dive into that was jump into the south By Southwest Groovy and give a little 22 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:07.480 give all the people a little bit run down on what that festival is. 23 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:15.039 So Southwest south By Southwest SXSW. It's a big like art music film, 24 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:21.080 It's just a big art creative festival that's been going on in Texas for I 25 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.280 don't know. I don't know because I know what's been going on for years, 26 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:27.319 Like when I went back to when I was in school and I never 27 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:29.680 got to go. Everyone always talked about it and it was a big deal. 28 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:31.879 So they're always kind of like you know, music performances on the street. 29 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:36.560 You know, there's places showing like independent films places, it's art all 30 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:39.439 over. So and they're also you know, they there's a conference about all 31 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:45.879 sorts of stuff because they draw so many people from the you know, from 32 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:51.120 the world, but they also do like different types of sessions, educational sessions, 33 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:53.680 hundreds of hundreds of sessions. Now, I think they range from like 34 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:57.759 music, business to business, different types of businesses, just like culture. 35 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:01.879 Now. I always looked at it as kind of like a culture or festival, 36 00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:06.639 if that makes sense, because it's a conference end festival, because it's 37 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:10.960 like tech, film, music, education, like it's very like you know, 38 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:15.039 ride range, but like, especially being in art school, a lot 39 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.199 of people went because you know, business, art film, you know, 40 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:22.879 music, a lot of people went. So four hundred plus fifty like different 41 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.680 types of sessions and stuff, and they say twenty four tracks, So across 42 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:30.520 twenty four tracks, meaning like different types of you know, music, tech 43 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:34.159 film, I'm sure now it's psychedelics instead of cannabis. And I think that's 44 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:37.080 kind of what this article is breaking down, is that they were kind of 45 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:40.280 look like going into like a cannabis like section track and that's why it said 46 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:46.639 that it they nixed the cannabis track. That's why it says south By the 47 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:50.039 lineup is NOWS. And then psychedelics, So it seems like one of those 48 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:57.400 tracks have become a psychedelic kind of route where there's thirteen classes on psychedelics. 49 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:03.080 Damn. Yeah, that's that's a decent amount of classes on psychedelics for the 50 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:05.080 festival, I think. I mean, I don't know how many would be 51 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:10.800 for cannabis generally, but for psychedelics, that's that's pretty big. Yeah, 52 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:14.639 its that. I mean the two dozen different theme focus areas at the festival, 53 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:15.959 so it's it's it's just huge, and they're you know, they're not 54 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:17.920 just talking about, like, you know, I think it sounds like, 55 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:23.040 you know, cannabis. It sounds like cannabis is just being looped involved in 56 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:26.040 like into these which makes sense. It's a psychedelic that's what we say. 57 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:30.839 But it's also now blinketing and keeping inside you know, m D M a 58 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:39.560 H, mushrooms, d MT, mescal and all that shit. Damn. 59 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:43.160 And I think it's good to start seeing this because it's starting to show, 60 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:46.399 like I was saying at the beginning of this, is that people's mindsets are 61 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:53.800 changing. Cannabis now is becoming more of that plant that's becoming legal. You're 62 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.839 having more states option to have it legal. We have two this year voted 63 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:01.160 in legislator. The legis later voted it in, not even the people voted 64 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:04.160 it in. So you're starting to see that mindset change. And I believe 65 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:09.360 those are Delaware in Minnesota if I'm not mistaken. Obviously it failed in Oklahoma 66 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:13.600 this year for recreational but those two states move forward. So and now you 67 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.519 got I think if Ohio goes legal tomorrow, that's twenty four states, right, 68 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:19.480 So now we're halfway in the US. So what's next. Psychedelics. 69 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:24.839 I'm jumping in no no, no, no, I'm not. Yeah. 70 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:27.879 I meant as in like full coming, full circle as in psychedelics, not 71 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:30.680 gonna be pushing us forward, as in I think those are going to go 72 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:34.519 faster than cannabis has. Cannabis well, I think that cannabis has such a 73 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:39.639 bad way. I think cannabis has such a bad name to it because of 74 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:43.439 all the reefer madness and all the propaganda against it, that psychedelics might have 75 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:47.160 a quicker a better chance and getting marijuana looped in there, cannabis being looped 76 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:49.720 in there because it is a psychedelic. So I think if anything, that's 77 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:54.600 going to help cannabis go faster because it is just us psychedelic. Weed is 78 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:57.199 just US psychedelic. You know. People don't talk about all the other ones, 79 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:00.800 you know, but it's just one. Yeah, I would agree with 80 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:02.759 you there, grew with you one hundred percent. I think I think you're 81 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:05.319 absolutely right. I think it will push it forward and we'll be able to 82 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:10.560 start, hopefully to see more and more states just break down the barriers of 83 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:16.199 illegal or barely any medical laws because there's dollars. It helps people. People 84 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:18.639 should have the option to be able to use cannabis, and they should be 85 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:21.519 able to option to use psychedelics, especially if psychedelics, which we're seeing right 86 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:25.399 now is great for PTSD. Yeah. I mean they're going to be talking 87 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:29.839 about Kennemy all sorts of ship, dude, but all that stuff, all 88 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.240 that all that stuff should be talked about. I think it all has traditional 89 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:38.120 value and just regular recreational value in small meat is small doses. It can 90 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:42.399 help the mental. These these psychedelics have been around for thousands of years. 91 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:46.000 They've been around before even America was built and born. Right, Native Americans 92 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:50.959 were using psychedelics for thousands of years. Huh. I found it was really 93 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:57.759 discovered born, yeah, yeah, taken whatever, whatever. No. I 94 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:00.759 would want to read this though before you get two topic, it says, 95 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:04.959 here are some examples of sessions featured in the South by southwas Psychedelic Track sod 96 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:12.439 FDA approved Love question Mark exploring MDMA, psychedelic Journey, We got finding balance 97 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:18.560 your relationship with psychoactive plants MDMA Saved My life, Psychedelics and healing from sexual 98 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:27.759 trauma, the bars new top shelf, elevation over inebriation, man versus nature, 99 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:32.079 the commercialation of psilo cybet medicine, psychedelic leadership and systems change, and 100 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:36.879 there's oh, so those are the ones that are focused more on psychedelics, 101 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:41.399 and then when you go down there's actually here's some descriptions of sessions dealing with 102 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:47.199 cannabis from prison to prosperity, How advocacy can impact cannabis. And I think 103 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:50.800 there's one more cannabis around the world where the big opportunities. So it's just 104 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:55.439 being included and being blanketed. And as much as like I love, you 105 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.519 know, I'm a big you know, I'm proponent of cannabis, right, 106 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:01.920 Like cannabis to me is you know, I can heal a lot, but 107 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:05.680 like when we branch it out even bigger, you can heal even more, 108 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:09.959 right, you know, so I understand that. I think we're just cupping 109 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.439 the surface with what it can do, especially with new cannabinoids becoming prevalent. 110 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.800 Wait till we start seeing No, no, I'm not Yeah, I'm talking 111 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:20.199 about all these other things, not just weed, like I'm saying, like 112 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:22.759 when you blanket psychedelics, like you include cannabis, it's the same shit, 113 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.920 right, You're saying the same thing. It's just it's a bigger, bigger 114 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:35.480 blanket. Okay, makes sense. I got you on that. It's a 115 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:37.879 good article. Hopefully, uh, we just see this trend continue and see 116 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:41.960 more more psychedelics being talked about, and who knows, twenty twenty four, 117 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.639 we might be legalizing, you know, our decriminalizing psychedelics in the state of 118 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.480 Michigan and south by Southwest is a huge conference like conference in festivals. It 119 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.759 takes over a week in downtown. I think it's Austin, but I can't 120 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:56.799 remember exactly, but it's it's huge. So it's definitely huge. So so 121 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:00.639 I got a couple more out of Ohio, but I want to talk about 122 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.720 this one real quick before we jump over to Ohio. Uh, this talks 123 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:07.720 about a legal bud tender is home and for three weeks and being on Rikers 124 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:13.120 and one pot chargers. Excuse me, that was fucking horribly red. I'm 125 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:20.840 so sorry. But essentially this legal bud tender uh in Jamal George Jamal George 126 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.960 thirty three, he somehow got into held at Rikers and in a Pennsylvania jail 127 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:30.080 basically on these cannabis charges where you know, you know, in Pennsylvania still 128 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:33.720 completely legal. New York was the one that still was legal. But it's 129 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.720 kind of complicated. It kind of sounds like he had warrants related to him 130 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:43.679 from cannabis previously, where some when everything when legal, he wasn't necessarily protected 131 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:50.039 because they were protected from cannabis charges but not from past cannibal cannabis warrants. 132 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:56.080 War So it was kind of complicated, Yeah, which is stupid because like, 133 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.399 technically, in my I mean, they're not the same. I get 134 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:00.720 that, But technically, in my opinion, if it's a warrant for a 135 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:03.120 cannabis charge like that should just been expunged as well too. It's not like 136 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:05.879 he had a warrant for pushing hundreds of thousands of pounds. I think it 137 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:09.799 was for driving without us just driving with a suspended license with cannabis or something 138 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:15.039 on him or something like that. Here it is twenty twenty one law legalizing 139 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:20.200 cannabis included a provision expunging cannabis convictions but not pot related arrest warrants. So 140 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:24.360 his war warts on those pot chargers that are still no technically like not even 141 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.960 big dealing him over there aren't worst to it, could you know? That's 142 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:30.279 why he got thrown in Rikers and then he got transferred to Pennsylvania because it 143 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.159 sounds like he has previous convictions over there, so it's just shitty. But 144 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.639 long story short, he went through city some shitty stuff for a few weeks 145 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:41.279 well too, and then he had got charged. He got charges for in 146 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:45.759 Pennsylvania for a warrant as well too before he got freed. No, that's 147 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:50.120 what I was trying to see that he got pushed over to Pennsylvania, right 148 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:52.879 because I think he had two charges right right, that's what he went to 149 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:56.600 Rikers to serve that out. Then you need to go to Pennsylvania, which 150 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:00.519 Pennsylvania is super illegal in there still, But thanks for too good people in 151 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.720 the cannabis community. It sounds like his colleagues and friends railed around him and 152 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:07.919 got him a GoFundMe and was able to raise like thirteen thousand, five hundred 153 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:13.679 dollars, which got him bailed out. Well, helped him get to that 154 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:18.639 twenty thousand dollars ballou so shout out to Mike Castle for people that helped start 155 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:20.159 to go fund me. But I think that's just kind of a crazy story 156 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.799 that you know here now in his state, New York, where it's legal 157 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:28.840 and people are literally selling it in trucks just driving around. But this guy 158 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:31.200 is going to go to jail and basically like screw his whole life up because 159 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.480 you know, his job was pissed or like, you know, anything he 160 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:37.399 had going on three weeks is three weeks, you know, So he disrupted 161 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:43.080 his whole life, just crazy all over some shit that happened before it was 162 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.159 legal. Like to me, like that doesn't make any sense. It's like 163 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:48.399 why it was such a big deal. Why you know, you've got to 164 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:50.840 get those people out of jail, because they're the ones that are being the 165 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:54.759 most wrong. They're just sitting there on charge of that. Now people are 166 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:58.120 getting paid to do so it doesn't make sense like this shit like this shouldn't 167 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:03.399 be slipping through, but it does because it takes so long for the system 168 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.080 to expunge records, rather than saying, hey, any of these charges underneath 169 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:11.080 these rules should just be no and void. I don't understand why it's got 170 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.759 to be such a process and you have to go fill out the forums. 171 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:16.039 Why can't the government just say anybody who's been charged under these things or just 172 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:22.399 it doesn't it just goes away, like I don't do. Process can sometimes 173 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:28.799 be fucking annoying. It's the government, Yeah, they say, sometimes it 174 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:35.399 makes sense, sometimes it doesn't. Yeah, that's why. That's why you 175 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:37.279 have all these loopholes with stuff when it's not written properly as well too, 176 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.919 and you just you find those little loopholes and you go through it. It 177 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:43.720 is very unfortunate, but I'm glad that the gofund ME came up and they 178 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.240 were able to get him released. We can be back home with this family. 179 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:50.240 Uh, because a warrant for you arrest, like you're saying, man, 180 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.759 it should have been took it off. He should have been exponged just 181 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:56.879 because he's backs based like it shouldn't have shouldn't have to like deal with that 182 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:00.559 or have to go to court or have to go to jail for three weeks 183 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:05.320 in multiple prisons, Like, yeah, what are you in here for? 184 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:09.159 Marijuana? Charts? Aren't isn't it legal in our state? Yeah? Man, 185 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.279 I know what the hell? I feel like that's like the conversation you 186 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:15.480 have in your first night in prison, Like you know, like, I'm 187 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.320 I know what you're trying to I don't know. I haven't been inside prison, 188 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.080 so yeah, I don't know how the first conversation goes. But you 189 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:30.000 know, but whatever, Let's jump into Ohio here. They got a couple 190 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:37.360 I got a couple things popping up with the election. Midterm elections happening this 191 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:43.639 Tuesday, November seventh, and Ohios has the opportunity to legalize cannabis this year. 192 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:48.600 They had the opportunity what was it to two or three years ago? 193 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.399 Twenty one was it? And I think it was twenty actually, and they 194 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:56.080 did not pass it, which was good because I don't think the law was 195 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.960 written properly at the time. So that's why a loed the Ohioans did not 196 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:03.120 vote it through. Right now, they're looking at the law and it has 197 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:07.360 some better it's better written, and to be honest, when I was reading 198 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:13.960 some of this article from Mjbiz Daily, Ohio's the country's seventh, seventh, 199 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.320 seventh most populous state in America, did not know that fun fact of the 200 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:24.960 day, it has over twelve million. I have no idea. I don't 201 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.080 know. I'm just reading the first paragraph and I was like, that was 202 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:28.840 something I'm going to say, because that's interesting. They're also predicting it to 203 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:33.279 be a four billion dollar market, and if Ohio does go legal, I 204 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:39.080 wonder how that's going to affect some of these dispensaries on the border of Ohio 205 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.799 and Michigan. Maybe not at first, right, because Ohio's prices might be 206 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:48.000 different and the products different. It just takes in time. Eventually, I 207 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:52.320 think they'll start losing some of those repeat customers or customers that aren't going to 208 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.879 make the half hour forty five minute drive when they might be able to go 209 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.440 fifteen to twenty minutes. Right, Who knows. I'm just curious one hundred 210 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.039 percent. I mean, I just me living over in the water for Paniac 211 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:03.879 area. Now there's disposing water for Paniac, Like I'm not driving down to 212 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:11.720 Detroit unless it's convenient exactly. That's fifteen minutes, twenty five minutes. Yeah, 213 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:16.120 so there you go, Like it's just yeah. And so for those 214 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.759 people out there in Ohio, it's issue too. They're voting to they either 215 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.120 approved it or denied it. At this point, you know, I wish 216 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.480 we could, you know, have given this out beforehand, but you know, 217 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:28.320 now we're just we talked about it before, but now it's is illegal. 218 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:31.519 I hopefully we're talking about it on the Waken Bay. So come and 219 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.840 check it out Saturday. We'll have an update for you nine am Eastern Live. 220 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.399 Check out YouTube ig yep. And so, so while we're over down 221 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:43.639 in Ohio, this next topic I wanted to talk about was actually kind of 222 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:48.159 cool. It's Cleveland. Oh before you before you jump into that, what 223 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:52.159 were some of the laws within the the Weren't they able to grow six plants 224 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:54.919 per person at the house, but if you had two or more people there? 225 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:56.840 Well that's my next article. Yeah, that's where I was. That's 226 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:00.399 where I was going to the cannabis school. It's in the next article. 227 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:03.320 But yeah, so yeah, so it's either way, well all right, 228 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:07.759 hold on. So yeah, so it's pretty much very similar to Michigan. 229 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:15.639 It's anyone over twenty one and up. They'll be voting on Tuesday. It'll 230 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:18.840 be about what was it, six plants per person to grow above twenty one 231 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:23.399 in their household and then up to twelve in each household, So twelve plants 232 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:27.440 total in a household if you have more than two adults, and then ten 233 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:30.200 percent tax, so a little bit better than we have here with the sixteen 234 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:37.519 percent. So yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, I think that's 235 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:40.440 really cool. It's kind of you know, it's not horrible, it's not 236 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:44.279 amazing, but it's not like we've seen a lot worse. So it's not 237 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:47.759 the end of the world. But we'll see if they do it. You 238 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:56.799 know that I like you for tax. Yeah, I think it's actually so 239 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:00.639 I think what well, anyway, so they brought that up about issue too, 240 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:03.880 because if Issue two does pass, this school called Cleveland School and Cannabis 241 00:17:03.880 --> 00:17:10.039 expecting a huge spike. And they've already been doing pretty good business assessments twenty 242 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:14.720 seventeen, so it sounds like since Ohio went legal about within that next year, 243 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:18.559 they've been pretty much teaching, so they've been going strong, I think 244 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:21.359 right now, they're just kind of putting on information because with issue two, 245 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:23.880 especially because like you said, the last one wasn't worded correctly, this one 246 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:27.359 is worded correctly. So they're really thinking that issue too is going to pass 247 00:17:27.480 --> 00:17:30.839 this time. So they're really expecting like a huge, huge, like spike 248 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:37.559 in people coming out, and so that's cool. Their tuition ranges from seventy 249 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:41.720 five hundred to fourteen thousand dollars. It's the only state approved career school for 250 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:45.960 cannabis east of Colorado. Thought that was really cool. It says more than 251 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:49.640 nine hundred people have graduated already with about an eighty percent graduation rate. Holds 252 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:52.880 about one hundred and thirty to one hundred and fifty people per term. And 253 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.720 I, you know, especially within the new age of like you know, 254 00:17:56.759 --> 00:17:59.480 this isn't people just growing weed and selling it. This is like there's so 255 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:04.480 much sure and so much things going out with testing and how metric is versus 256 00:18:04.519 --> 00:18:07.319 how this is versus how this is, Like there's a lot of rules and 257 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:11.000 regulation. So I feel like this school could be really beneficial because especially for 258 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:15.960 like you know, you know, sometimes we see issues here in Michigan is 259 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:19.319 sometimes education varies because there isn't that like standard for any education, which is 260 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:23.160 you know, again it comes from people just teaching, so like there is 261 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:27.759 no standard for education yet. But I think schools like this Cleveland School for 262 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:32.319 Cannabis or whatever it's called, are going to try to kind of create a 263 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:36.920 standard or create a goal. I guess almost like hey, you know, 264 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:41.599 I have this, I know I know this. You know yeah, no, 265 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:44.119 no, no, I like what they're doing. They also mentioned many 266 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:47.799 times in the article that they do not smoke on the job because they're always 267 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:48.519 asked, are you guys smoking the weed? No, no, no, 268 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:52.319 no. They're used hemp, and once the hemp's used, it's disposed, 269 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:55.720 like they dispose the hemp for teaching and everything. There's no smoking. There's 270 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:59.559 nothing on that in the class, which that makes sense. Yeah, you 271 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:02.680 might be smoking while you're there, but you're not smoking. It's like legit 272 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:06.920 college or legit. Yeah, to be honest, that's kind of a stupid 273 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:10.200 question, Like to be honest, because that's like just because you're learning about 274 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:11.319 alcohol beer, you're gonna drink beer on the job. Like, no, 275 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:15.160 you're not gonna drink on the job. It's not gonna let you smoke weed. 276 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:17.559 On a job, like you're crazy, you can do it. You 277 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:21.039 know, they're not gonna like, they're not gonna promote it. Even discios 278 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:23.279 don't promote it. That's fucking stupid, Like that doesn't make any sense. 279 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:26.480 Hey, when I did liquor sales, when we had brands coming, we 280 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.160 would drink on the job, like literally we would test the product with everybody. 281 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.759 It was insane, I know. But they didn't promote it. They're 282 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:37.279 not like putting it out there like, oh, people are drinking on the 283 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:41.960 job. That's all I'm trying. That's no ship. They're not gonna tell 284 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:45.880 you at school, they're not gonna say it's it's education, dude, That's 285 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:48.279 what I'm saying, Like, that's how they did it. At they were 286 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:52.319 talking about whatever school that was in Michigan that they were discussing. Northern Michigan 287 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:56.000 was doing stuff like that. They were all using hemp, which again, 288 00:19:56.119 --> 00:20:00.200 like the issue with that is then you're not getting the exact results that you 289 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.000 would be expecting from cannabis sativa. Right, So, like to me, 290 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:04.920 like that also does hold you back a little bit, but not, you 291 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:07.079 know, not that much. I'm sure all the tests are really ran the 292 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:11.759 same you know, Yeah, yeah, I would agree. I mean they're 293 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:15.480 pretty much similar plants. You might just see different plant structure when they're growing, 294 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:19.880 right, But between an indica, the hemp, and then the suppul 295 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:23.240 sitiva. Do I think education is needed to be a good grower to be 296 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:26.240 in the industry? No, But do I think it helps, especially if 297 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:29.799 you don't know anyone in industry and you want to be like, yeah, 298 00:20:29.799 --> 00:20:32.200 man, I think it's nice because dude, if you don't know anyone in 299 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:34.680 industry, like what else you gonna do? It's just like it feels like 300 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:37.240 if you can't learn someone to be an apprentice with, you go to school. 301 00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:41.880 Same difference. Absolutely, I kind of think education's key. I kind 302 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:45.559 of think you're gonna need Anyone can grow weed, right, but if you 303 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:49.359 want to become a good, good cultivator, I think you're gonna it'd be 304 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:52.759 good to learn from somebody or learn from people that have had experience. See, 305 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:56.400 I think I agree with that, But because like I mean, I've 306 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:57.960 seen I've smoked your weed, bro, and you know, have no fucking 307 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:03.039 education, you're really you know what I mean? So I think what these 308 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:06.079 schools I did a lot. I had a lot of mentors. Yeah, 309 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.559 I get that, but I really learned from many people, right, I 310 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:11.720 get that, But that's what I'm trying to say is you got an apprenticeship. 311 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:12.920 But I think the school is also not just going to teach how to 312 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.279 cold bit. I really think that a lot of these standards you're not you 313 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:19.039 can't learn these anywhere besides school or on the job site. You can learn 314 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:22.640 how to grow cannabis from YouTube, but you can't learn standards. It's like 315 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:25.039 testing and all these That's all I was trying to say. I'm not saying 316 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:29.519 you can't, and it is definitely beneficial. I'm just saying that I feel 317 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:32.319 like the school goes beyond just growing the weed, you know what I mean, 318 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:37.759 They're going on the whole industry. Yeah, no, no, I 319 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.920 I get what you're saying. I was just putting an example as a grower 320 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:42.640 for for reasoning, because I just know in my past. I mean, 321 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:45.759 you can, you can read books, you can do whatever. Anyone can 322 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:48.359 grow weed. But I think over time it's going to have those mentors, 323 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:51.920 even people you can learn from or are check out. Like if you have 324 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:53.799 friends growing, that's a great way to get knowledge as well too. It's 325 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:57.319 because you can have multiple people bounce it off ideas. Yeah, no, 326 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:02.960 sorry, if you're not watching the podcast, you just see Dave's key door 327 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:06.880 slowly open, so I know Molly was just walking in right now. Yeah, 328 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:08.160 before the episode, I went and got her bed. I was like, 329 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:11.599 all right, Mom, I'm getting your bed because she busted it before 330 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:18.839 we even started recording. Hilarious. Yea, but I agree that I agree 331 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.480 with it. I love it because it's good. It's good to be there 332 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:25.319 because like, I'm not gonna get too much into it because when you get 333 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:26.319 into it, and probably the end of the episode, we posted a meme 334 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:30.559 on highest THC grouve. We created this meme teamwork and it's getting a lot 335 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:34.680 of comments and it, to me, it showed a point that the customers 336 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:40.160 are uneducated, not the bud tenders. A little bit misconception. I do 337 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.400 think it their buttenders are a little bit more. But we had a lot 338 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:47.319 of butttenders commenting and they're saying the consumers so very but also some of those 339 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.759 bud tenders said newer bud tenders, and I think that's kind of what the 340 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:53.559 key is. And I think that's kind of like where the the the kind 341 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:56.960 of the the laughing part of the meme came from is that sometimes it's like 342 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:00.640 the Spider Man meme, Like it's like the Budge saying it's the customers, 343 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.559 but it's the customers saying it's the bud tenders. And what you're saying, 344 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.680 like what we realized it is some people really really care and the education is 345 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:10.200 key, and then some people are just trying to get the best deal and 346 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.960 just or just try to make a sale. So like sometimes it's it's just 347 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:17.240 education, it's key. Like I we definitely you know, that's the thing 348 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.119 about that. You can't really blame the bud tenders because that's generalized. You 349 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:22.319 can't blame the customers because that's generalizing because like so really what it is is 350 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:29.079 that there's a lack of education about all these other things that matter rather than 351 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:33.839 this quote unquote THIAC level that's going to quote unquote get you highest. You 352 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:36.640 know where a lot of times I fight some of these higher KAC strains don't 353 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:40.519 even taste that good. Yeah, whether they're growing good or not, they 354 00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:42.799 just don't taste as good as some of this stuff that's like twenty four, 355 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:45.799 twenty five, thirty like you know twenty, like you know what I mean 356 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:52.880 that like not as high as like forty percent range Like what so I don't, 357 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:55.599 I don't, I don't. You know us We're all about the We're 358 00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:57.880 all about the flavors, all about the trash effect, the cannabinoids, the 359 00:23:57.880 --> 00:24:02.799 flavi anoids, the turk, all that plays and counteracts each other in a 360 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:06.720 perfectly well balanced and when that hits, that shit just slaps give me eighteen 361 00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:12.559 percent all day. That shit is like but a but a check out Groovy's 362 00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:18.319 track with chaff called butt where I do I kept saying butter and just reminded 363 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:22.559 me. But it's great to see this class there. It's cool to see 364 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.440 the education because when you're seeing that, we're starting to put education first within 365 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:32.279 the industry. And I think that will change some of these negative perceptions of 366 00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:34.680 like high tsg's based blood tenders or it's based on the consumers, because more 367 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:38.640 people start talking about it. There hasn't been enough information out there as well 368 00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.400 either. I mean, there's okay, there's information out there, but more 369 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:45.599 and mores come in, more and more continue to come and I think in 370 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:49.160 time we'll start seeing that happen as well. Too, so shout out too. 371 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:52.960 I think what was at the Cleveland School of Cannabis or something like that, 372 00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:56.799 And if I'm not mistaken, I think one of our listeners went there. 373 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:00.880 I'm assuming it has to be because he just graduated. And if you're 374 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.480 listening, shout out. I won't drop your name, my dude, but 375 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:07.480 he's working here in the state of Michigan after graduating. And I'm assuming it's 376 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:10.559 the school because he was from Ohio and I think that's the only one in 377 00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:15.519 the state, so it's Cleveland. Like, yeah, I think you're you're 378 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:19.079 you're guessing pretty well, you know, yeah, shout out our dude. 379 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:22.160 It worked. He graduated and he has a degree in this. So if 380 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.240 you're thinking and he's working, yeah, here in Michigan. He's working for 381 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:30.720 a good brand too, actually his favorite brand that he's enjoyed since the medical 382 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:33.599 days, because yeah, medical days up here. So I'm not gonna go 383 00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:36.799 to any more detail, but shout out our dude. Yeah, yeah, 384 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:38.359 yeah. I don't know if did Dave. I don't know if Candadate brought 385 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:41.960 this up in the beginning, but we were gonna mention like our perfect package 386 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:45.000 idea after just kind of like talk about kind of like packaging a little bit. 387 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.079 I don't know if we mentioned that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 388 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.720 Okay, Well I'm excited for that because I really want to reiterate that because 389 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.279 that's how we would end it like that. How what's our perfect ten out 390 00:25:56.279 --> 00:25:57.279 of ten? And the reason why we talk about is because we brand it 391 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:00.920 on so many, so many reviews and go through all these reviews consistently with 392 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:04.400 you guys. So we're gonna get into that. But before we get into 393 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.400 that, I want to give a quick shout out to our partners uh am 394 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:11.839 I, Loud Flower, Old School Organics, and Emerald Fire. Without you 395 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:15.160 guys, we wouldn't be doing what we're doing. So appreciate you and appreciate 396 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:19.880 you help us evolve this company that we're building here. Media company that we're 397 00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:26.440 building here. You can see you can see their product in any stories throughout 398 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:27.440 the state. If you have any questions on where to get it, just 399 00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.799 reach out to us in the DMS. We're pretty quick to respond. If 400 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:34.680 we don't respond, we'll get to later that day, like honestly there so, 401 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:40.279 but before we get into the perfect package, we're gonna jump into a 402 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:44.880 couple of Michigan articles, and I think the first one is Wilson Willie Nelson's 403 00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:48.799 cannabis brand is coming here to Michigan. Groovy. Is that true? Yeah, 404 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:52.880 so Willie Nelson's brand. If you don't know Willie Nelson get out from 405 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:59.359 I think that rock. Who's Willie Nelson. He's a musician, uh, 406 00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:07.079 you know, big big country folk, blue artist and just huge. He's 407 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:10.519 been in movies. Blah blah blah blah blah. Long story short. One 408 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.559 of the other celebrities coming out with a cannabis brand, calling Willy's Reserve. 409 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:21.119 No, I don't know if I have high hopes for this because I can't 410 00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.000 tell you how many times i've you know, these brands come out with you 411 00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:26.839 know how many cannabis, you know, with how many celebrities, and like, 412 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:30.400 sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. Like so it's kind of just 413 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.039 a hit in the dark. And it wasn't a business deal. How far 414 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.960 they are behind it, you know, we'll see because I don't really know 415 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.079 how you know deep Willy is like behind it. You know, he could 416 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.440 be using it to make some money. You know, they give you a 417 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:49.599 TC typical potency whatever, that's all it really has. It really just lists 418 00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:53.359 you a bunch of locations on where it's at, you know, that's really 419 00:27:53.400 --> 00:28:00.240 about it. Virgu neighborhood, Essential, Traverse City, mood Center, puff 420 00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:07.839 shoot, you know, just random dispels playing for twenty stone depot. So 421 00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:15.599 it is. It is grown by ard Vark Indu Indus trees Trees, not 422 00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:22.680 industries nice trees. They're the same brand that did Cheeches Stash as well too, 423 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.400 because that's who they have on the website. So this could be their 424 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.359 thing. You know, they just find a sloppy doors, random parts of 425 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.119 their plants, and they just you know, this could just be their thing. 426 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.000 Didn't we try the The The cheese stuff wasn't bad, remember we did 427 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.119 their review of the because it was and we were like kind of like for 428 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:44.359 twenty dollars and eights, like, you know, why is there only twenty 429 00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:47.160 an eighth? You know, but then we smoked him right home. It 430 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.599 wasn't horrible. Yeah, I know. So I have a little bit more 431 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:55.000 higher expectations for this then, because if you're hopes, yeah, higher hopes 432 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:59.000 compared to like goog Wa that came here, or I guess I've just kind 433 00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:00.880 of jaded by the whole oh, I'm putting my name behind a brand. 434 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.680 Like now I'm kind of like so like you know what I mean. Like, 435 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.680 but after like your fifth time in this happening, you're kind of like 436 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:11.440 you know, because like it's also hit or miss too. Like the ship 437 00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:14.559 we had out like that ice Cube stuff we had on in Vegas was horrible, 438 00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:18.079 but like that that out like to Iversen stuff, that Iverson ship we 439 00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:23.559 had was fantomatic. Bye, I think I think and I think you know 440 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:26.960 where I think it comes from. The more and more we keep learning in 441 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.839 this industry, it comes down to who they partner with and who the cultivators 442 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.759 are of those plants, right right, because when you see because I think 443 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:36.599 some of Iola's Bob we've had in the past wasn't bad, but that Iverson 444 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:38.359 strain did slap, so that was probably good genetics and then they had a 445 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:41.519 good grow on it. Because that was I was. I was impressed. 446 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.279 I was like, damn for well, it almost seemed like really on that 447 00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:48.559 end, Alan Iverson wanted his own genetic and that's sweet. But like I'm 448 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:51.799 just like wondering if some of these grows are just crossing strains and like sending 449 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:53.480 them to celebrities until one of them is like cool, I like that enough 450 00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:56.880 and they're like cool, run it like they don't know if they really care, 451 00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:59.480 they're just trying to sell something. But it was good, so I 452 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:03.079 can't really it was all right, Like it was very like my expectations were 453 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:06.640 low. So when it was like pretty good, it was pretty damn good, 454 00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:07.720 you know what I'm saying. Like the expectation was low. So like 455 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.480 I I'm a little like, I'm just I'm gonna keep my I'm gonna keep 456 00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.960 open minded to this. I'm gonna try to grab it. I think it'll 457 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:21.920 be really I'm gonna try. I'm gonna grab it on lunch at work. 458 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.559 Oh dang, Oh that's like right by you. Yeah, when's it? 459 00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:32.559 When's it hit the shop? You said? Is it in stores now? 460 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:40.920 Because it doesn't say in the article? Oh, starting to sell Wednesday? 461 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:45.480 Yeah, like today, so tomorrow this Wednesday? Okay, I had checked 462 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.119 the date. That's pretty cool. Actually, yeah, when they're listening to 463 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:55.319 this podcast, it's out today. Ah, yeah, it is today. 464 00:30:55.359 --> 00:31:03.079 I even have it in parentheses today, so hopefully I'm right. Otherwise I 465 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.240 went to the store. Groovy said it was today, and it wasn't today, 466 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:12.519 liar, follow Yeah, So see how it goes? Man, I 467 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:18.119 try. I'm curious. So he's been like in the he's been a huge 468 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.440 advocate for canvas for years. So I see him launch a brand. And 469 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:23.799 if it's by the Chiecha stash, which we tried, which is all right, 470 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:29.640 pretty good, this is a little bit better. So you we'll keep 471 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:33.920 you guys updated on that. And then this article up in the up groovy. 472 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.680 I actually one more before we get there. Before we get there, 473 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:38.200 just have one thing because that one's a little bit longer. Because that one's 474 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.319 I have. I've read into that one a little bit, so I want 475 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.240 to dig into that a bit. This one's a little bit quicker. Uh. 476 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:47.279 And am my canvas dispensary owner and got hit with the I R S 477 00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:52.079 for obstruction for avoiding tax tax bang uh. And this is what's fascinating to 478 00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:57.839 me. It's during twenty eleven and twenty fourteen relieve choices in Warren, Michigan. 479 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:04.680 Do you remember that? I don't remember them at all? Do you 480 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:07.200 remember them at all? I don't know it's one in Warren, but I 481 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.039 don't remember where it was. It must be that relief choices. It must 482 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:15.920 be it. But anyways, I don't think they were open. They routed 483 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:20.440 customer credit card payments through an unrelated third party bank to conceal the business goal 484 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.119 receipts. So they're basically like using credit cards on like cannabis sales back in 485 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:29.640 the day. Somehow they were doing some shitty shit. So long story short, 486 00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.079 the profits derived from Relief Choice Operation Richmond caused a tax loss to the 487 00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:36.759 irs more than like one point one five million dollars. So imagine he owns 488 00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:40.799 the taxes on that, which is plus uh late fees. I'm sure the 489 00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:45.599 government's not happy. You don't mess with the tax man. You don't mess 490 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.160 with the tax don't. No, you don't. Uncle Sam's now when you 491 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:53.119 want a million bucks too, damn damn. And he's got to go to 492 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:58.599 federal because it's a mandatory sentiment. I'm just thinking, how long how many 493 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.880 increases in like late fees, but like interest has been a Q ring there 494 00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:07.880 too. Oh, you're just scary, scary. That's scary, dude. 495 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:14.920 I'm gonna go home. What you are home? You can't go home any 496 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:20.240 further. I'm gonna go this is what I'm gonna do. Now we can 497 00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:25.799 jump to the up. Oh dang, days really gone? Yeah? All 498 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.680 right, yeah, let's the up. I'll let you dive into this article 499 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:31.480 first. This is crazy. Well, there's just a lot. It seems 500 00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:37.640 like there's a lot of like yeah, like it's a lot of like it's 501 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:45.240 interesting because it's almost like cannabis against cannabis and hold let me, let me 502 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:46.279 get adapt. This is this is it. This is let me. I'm 503 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:50.960 gonna get it. I'm gonna get I like it. I like it's dabb 504 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.039 oclock. If you're out there and podcast land or YouTube land wherever you're at 505 00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:59.960 Instagram face hit a dab. I know you can't borrow my rick from me? 506 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.640 Can do Oh my god, what are you dabbing? My dude? 507 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:09.599 Not bad? What what are you dabbing? I don't know cush Masters smack 508 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.960 okay, why because I'm about to do cush Masters too, and that debating 509 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:19.639 on them both. So I just been going through it too much. Man. 510 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:24.679 I just like the it's I get this quality right here. It's not 511 00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:30.280 bad. I mean, so you're you're having you're having two dispos The original 512 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:36.639 two get approved and they were Rise and fire Station Cannabis and they're pitted against 513 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:42.440 these five other dispensaries. No, well there's three other dispensaries. But the 514 00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.679 thing is, like, that's what that's what gets confusing is because they were 515 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.480 almost permitted, these three dispols were allowed. That's why I was getting a 516 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:53.159 little confused because I'm like trying to say it correctly. But the two were 517 00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:59.039 granted licenses in twenty twenty one, right, the city granted licenses to rise 518 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:01.239 in fire station. They were supposed to be the only two businesses Menominee. 519 00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:07.239 Correct, that's what they said. Then we're delayed because these other five may 520 00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.639 parent companies Gonna Loom, Nirvana, and hybrid Uh file lawsuits against Menominee itself 521 00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.320 in twenty twenty one, saying that they I don't know if they were already 522 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:22.159 in process to doing things. That's where I got a little confused. So, 523 00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:27.079 no, they're already open, right, But what confuses me is that 524 00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:30.000 they were basically told I know they were open. I'm saying they were basically 525 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:37.440 told they were shut supposed to shut down because of this, yes, yeah, 526 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:45.320 yes, I mean yeah, yeah. It's it's crazy that this is 527 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.760 happening because obviously those two dispos want to have probably all the foot traffic. 528 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:52.880 But also how big is Metamine? Is that a whole county? Is that 529 00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:58.800 just a city up in the up because it's just a city and it borders 530 00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.719 Wisconsin. I believe though too if I'm not mistaken. And with that, 531 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:07.079 I mean, you're gonna see obviously a turf war because that's probably a lot 532 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.280 of traffic that's coming through, which is a lot of Wisconsin people coming through 533 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:15.320 behind their critics and going back. So this is what gets me confused, 534 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.000 because the plaint is must turn this court secretlief from the breach the status quo 535 00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.559 request of media enforcement of the Court's priorities to prevent further in your harm from 536 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:28.159 recurring. So it's like they were allowed to open and then quickly got sued 537 00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:32.480 by these people that basically now they're forced to shut down because alongside the rise 538 00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:37.360 and fire station, there's another committee that was called. Like that's where I'm 539 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:39.760 losing it. I can't. There's this article so long, and I read 540 00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:44.679 it and I'm just it is a long article. Shots at m I for 541 00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:50.440 the article, But it looks like you're supposed to be open since like September 542 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:55.119 fifteenth, right, like and then you're having the other two companies pretty much 543 00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:01.320 send stuff to the judge to get these brands to shut down the shops. 544 00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:06.679 Oh, here it is Committee to Stop Unlimited Marijuana Shops. That's what it's 545 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:12.719 literally called. So in response to like so this is this is God, 546 00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.159 there was so much shit going on. So they the losing marijuana companies meaning 547 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:21.960 the other ones that didn't go through, appealed and convinced the majority of the 548 00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:25.199 Menominee City Council to accept settlement agreement. The agreement would award the five company 549 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:31.039 as well as six businesses that threatened litigation licenses. It also allowed unlimited marijuana 550 00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:36.840 license in the future and guarantee Monomi would not occur any legal costs that might 551 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.360 arise from the acceptance of the settlement. The marijuana companies would then pay any 552 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.800 legal fees. So basically, because of the settlement was basically like all right, 553 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:45.920 since you guys were already like doing the going through the process, we're 554 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:51.920 gonna let you have licenses. But after basically getting those license approved, so 555 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.159 they was like only those two could happen, So only Rise and fire Station. 556 00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.679 Then they those dispos were like, hey, we're already like in process. 557 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.639 You know, we thought again licenses, So I fine, we did 558 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:05.440 kind of say that we'll let you get your license these Now the other two 559 00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.280 went back to court to sue them or like to do this to appeal. 560 00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:13.840 In response to the settlement, Rise and fire Station funded a balance effort by 561 00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.679 the Committee of Stop Unlimited Marijuana Shops with the attent of allowing voters to possibly 562 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:22.639 reverse the new Settle plan. But it came this. It obtained their required 563 00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:24.880 signatures to get the question on the ballt which is what was needed. Now 564 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:28.360 here's the loophole. This is why I was like really trying to make sure 565 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.719 I worded it right. I was getting a little lost because it was multiple 566 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:32.800 times in court. See like they went multiple times. That's why I was 567 00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.519 like confusing for my brain. Now they found a loophole to block the public 568 00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:43.679 vote. They did this by the repeal the settlement ordinance. They basically got 569 00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:47.159 the past six to three, which is almost an exact duplicate of the original 570 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:52.119 version that the original court was about, but the settlement was about. But 571 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:58.639 in this second time around, the new version contained a fifteen thousand dollars funding 572 00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:04.480 for the police department and because of how the Menominee City like charter like ballot 573 00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:09.199 works. It bans refermendums on ordances that include agency funding, so it made 574 00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:14.519 the change. The change made the new ordance like remendom proof. So basically 575 00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:21.639 once it failed, it was like done. So they basically went back and 576 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:23.920 we're like, no, we were going to make sure that you guys don't 577 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:28.760 even get a chance to bring this to the public. So the committee to 578 00:39:28.800 --> 00:39:30.760 stop on the a mice chop rise and the fire station that sued over the 579 00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:36.039 claims of the violated the Opens Meetings Act. While taking the actions as avert 580 00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:42.639 Revenderment continued to plan to add six new shops. So that's what I'm saying. 581 00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:44.599 It's kind of hard to follow, but there's a lot of back and 582 00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:47.519 forth with court with like you said, it's a turf war essentially just a 583 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:53.519 legal turf war. So these dispenseries then have to close for good. Are 584 00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:57.360 they gonna fighting this? Well, this is what it's This is why. 585 00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:01.000 Yeah, we have Judge Berlin when I have ordered Loom Nerva and Higher Love 586 00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:05.599 close unless she was satisfied that the store disobeyed her orders in the city was 587 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:07.960 not moving to close them, said Cox. So I think Cox is the 588 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:14.400 representative of the of Rise or of fire Station. It was one of the 589 00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:20.199 other ones. So I I can't tell if it's just fees basically like fees 590 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.039 until they shop like a a fee the bay, or they're shut down. 591 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.079 It sounds like they're shut down for at least two weeks and then from there. 592 00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:28.920 I don't know if it's like you can open with fees or you just 593 00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:31.880 can't open. That's where I was trying to misunderstood, but essentially it sounds 594 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:37.880 like they're closed for now. Interesting. I mean, I don't feel bad 595 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:45.519 for loom. I just it's not that I feel bad than Nirvana if they 596 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:46.920 if they went through all these legal hoops and built a fucking place. To 597 00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:50.599 me, it's like, okay, forget the name, Like I know how 598 00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:52.519 we feel about any of these companies, like whatever, right, but just 599 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.920 just to be told like, hey, you know you're gonna get you're you're 600 00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.199 able to get a license in this Because it sounded like they were okay with 601 00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:02.519 whatever amount of dispos and then they ownlimited it back to two. They repealed 602 00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:06.440 it, got those six They're okay, we got our approval and they're like, 603 00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:07.280 no, no, no, you already told us we were the only 604 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:10.320 two will take you to court, and they basically just reminded it. So 605 00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:14.960 that's why I don't understand. Did the dispos just assume they were gonna be 606 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.719 able to get a license and start building or were they like almost promised that 607 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.800 like a license, but it wasn't official. And that's the big thing is 608 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:24.199 like just because you're told, hey, you were gonna allow dispos here, 609 00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:29.320 doesn't mean they're gonna allow dispos there. You know, yeah, yeah, 610 00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.920 the government can change my any moment, like until it's like stamped by like 611 00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:37.400 everybody. Like so I guess, And that's why, sorry I got confused. 612 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:39.320 After a couple of dabs, I'm like, fuck. So it was 613 00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:43.960 just that's a lot of shit going on just to basically keep control. But 614 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.679 you bring up the most valid point of the whole thing being so close to 615 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:52.639 Wisconsin, like that's all that couldn't be like a lot of like traffic for 616 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:58.199 you, Like yeah, because who knows when Wisconsin is going to go legal? 617 00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:01.639 Right, because well and because you're not going to drive to Detroit, 618 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:05.599 like it's not like see when you're coming from Ohio, I feel like you 619 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.079 have like a little bit of a range because there's a lot of discos along 620 00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:09.280 that border. Or if you feel like driving that extra hour, you can 621 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:15.719 just go to Detroit. Google mentam for me, Just just google it. 622 00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:19.800 Just just google it. Why I've been up there and a lot just not 623 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.159 a long time. Why am I googling it? Dude? It is literally 624 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:28.039 right next to Wisconsin. It battles Wisconsin like it's literally on the border. 625 00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:35.360 That is hilarious. And it's this population of eighty four hundred people. It's 626 00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.360 still pretty decent amount of people. I mean, I know, I know 627 00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:42.239 it's not a lot, but when I picture up north, I still come. 628 00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.119 My dad comes from a town that still has like sixty hundred people. 629 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:52.360 So that is just wild to me because you're getting all that Wisconsin traffic right 630 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:59.480 there and off of one to eighty and sixty four and forty one, all 631 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:04.800 those three go right into Menome, right. Yeah, yeah, you literally 632 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:09.679 are right there. Huh that trans right it but into well washed like a 633 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:19.079 hawk forty one. Yeah. Ah, I mean it's just weird. But 634 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.800 dang man, no, man, that's shit crazy. But that's great. 635 00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:27.000 That makes sense though. Whole why though two or like the most south because 636 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.119 when you look at when you really look at and actually know, I haven't 637 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:34.679 been Menomine. I'm thinking of Marquet and there's a lot of ms up. 638 00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:38.639 Okay, so I've never whatever. That's actually what I didn't realize how close 639 00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:42.440 it was to actually green Bay. That's the big thing too. It's green 640 00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.719 Bay is when it Wisconda's biggest city. So that's that's money right there. 641 00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.119 Oh ship, I didn't even realize that. Yeah, what I'm saying, 642 00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:51.280 like, that's why they fought so hard, Like no, no, no, 643 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:59.719 we're gonna be raking in money for a while. Sorry, that's why 644 00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:04.400 I said, I don't. I'm not. It's weird, like from a 645 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.920 business standpoint, you get what they're doing. Get what they're doing. They 646 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:09.280 were told they were supposed to be the only dispos and then you go along 647 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.360 and say that they were gonna allow more dispos in that small of a town. 648 00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:16.960 You're fucking with someone's money. Of course they're gonna do whatever legally they 649 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:21.880 have to do. It's just also a bummer that it's like cannabis against cannabis, 650 00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.880 you know, but that's business. I don't know, that's like, 651 00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:31.119 that's tough for me. I feel like you see that happen unfortunately in the 652 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:34.719 industry, because everyone wants a part of that pie. Right. We saw 653 00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.480 it all on that bottom remember at the bottom strip of Michigan. There was 654 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.480 a bunch of dispos fighting for that territory and those billboards and everything. Because 655 00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.079 we don't want to act like it's not true. But like a good businessman 656 00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.480 knows what's happening, Like you know where your ideas are. Yeah, Indiana 657 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:53.800 is completely illegal there just medical like you bad, you're got you got two 658 00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:57.280 of them. You got Indiana, who's like never going to go legal. 659 00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:59.920 I mean not never they are because I think they're actually talking about it finally, 660 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.280 but you have a state that's like fully against it. And then on 661 00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:06.559 the Hawaii side, they just couldn't get stuff right, so now they hopefully 662 00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:12.119 get it this year. But yeah, I actually you're right. I actually, 663 00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.719 for some reason thought menominee, however you pronounce it. I know I'm 664 00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:17.639 probably saying it wrong, but I thought it was up higher for some reason, 665 00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:20.840 So I thought I passed through it on my way up to like the 666 00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.280 Key and up an insula, but it's actually down I must have been thinking 667 00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:29.760 of Munising. I've never been to that part of Michigan anywhere around there, 668 00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:34.000 so I think I've been by Crystal Falls or Iron Mountain. That might have 669 00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.679 been the lowest I've been, but I've never been lower than that. Maybe 670 00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.039 when we went last that was probably yeah, yeah, days, Like, 671 00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:40.960 I don't know, was that the only time you've been up to the Up 672 00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:44.159 or one time before that? You saw I went a kid. I went 673 00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:45.159 as a kid a couple of times with my mom, but that was your 674 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:51.960 first time as an adult? Yeah, I actually, yeah, it tastes 675 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:57.360 like shit, go up northmore? No, but no, but for real 676 00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.000 though, well again, like and it's pop up there, like welling up 677 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.880 to the Up man, it's like popping you know, Like, yeah, 678 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:07.679 there are a lot of discos and fire station. We went to the festival 679 00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:15.719 call by fire station that was called It's not going on. Yeah. Oh 680 00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:19.880 but now there's Summer in smoke out, Summer and Summer in smokeout' that's the 681 00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.840 one you're at. That's what I'm saying, Summer and smoke out. Well, 682 00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:24.000 I haven't gone to it yet, but yeah, like we were supposed 683 00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:28.679 to go to last year. We had Neilon from elevating exotics, So that's 684 00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.000 popping off up in the UP. Elevad East got a couple of dispos so 685 00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:37.199 there's a lot of dispensaries in every major city in the UP. Yeah, 686 00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:42.039 absolutely love it, but I don't like the turf for I think they should 687 00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.119 allow them in if it was the state's fault, the states allowment, I 688 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:46.840 don't know if they screwed it out, well yeah, but think about that 689 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:51.599 though, Like that's very complicated because then the two people that you promised license 690 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:53.639 to to begin with, who are doing great business and then probably giving a 691 00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:57.960 lot of tax money to your company, to your city, now you're gonna 692 00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.840 like screw them over. But then also those that's my first opinion, which 693 00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.199 was eighty four hundred. That's why I was trying to convince. That's why 694 00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.119 I was trying to figure out from I couldn't understand from that article if you 695 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:14.079 know what, or like I maybe a misunderstood was were they guaranteed those licenses 696 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.639 or were they just basically building And because of that like lawsuit, the city 697 00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.800 was like, okay, fine, we'll just give you licenses because this is 698 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.320 too much to deal with because they definitely don't that's yeah, I just didn't 699 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:27.639 understand that, like what preluded this? And that's where my heads that too. 700 00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:29.960 It's like, who's the one that messed up here? Because that's what 701 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:31.800 the side I might land with my opinion on, So I'm curious. We'll 702 00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:37.360 pay attention to it. It's just like both sides. But I don't know. 703 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:40.960 I think it's dab time. And then we jump into the Perfect Package 704 00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.800 rights an article. No that's all we got left. No, we actually 705 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.960 know we're like fifty minutes deep, so no, no, yeah, but 706 00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:54.679 the Perfect Package as like, we just wanted to talk about this because sometimes 707 00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:58.840 it varies and the like when we do our like reviews and stuff, it's 708 00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:01.119 very like, I don't want to say it's variant, but sometimes we'll give 709 00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:04.519 an eight or an eight and a half or a nine or a seven, 710 00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.719 right, and sometimes they're like this different. So I always wanted to I 711 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.360 just want to ask you, man, like what your perfect package idea was, 712 00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:13.840 because to me, I have my own perfect package, but I imagine 713 00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:15.920 ours are a little different similar in most ways, but I like, you 714 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:20.519 know, like you always bring up genetics, right, you know, being 715 00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:22.320 huge to you and like for me, like as much as that is important, 716 00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.440 I usually just google it, but you're like, that should be right 717 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:29.079 there because if you see it, the convenience of knowing you like one of 718 00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:32.199 those strange genetics and it hits well for you, Like it's beautiful. And 719 00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:36.000 we always talk about wanting to list terpene so you can at least get an 720 00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:38.519 idea of how the flavors should taste if it's smoked, if it was growing 721 00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:42.440 correctly, right you see, oh hey it's got let me knee baby care 722 00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:46.079 offleen, And you're you're hitting all my point right, Well, no, 723 00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:49.599 I'm just trying to say, like, but like what would be the like 724 00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.159 you know, what's what's most important you to like, what's the least important 725 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.480 you when you're looking at a package? So I guess I was just trying 726 00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:58.639 to start with two things that I know we have in common, that we 727 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:06.079 like, wish and hopefully an yeah yeah, absolutely take notes companies. I'm 728 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:07.880 just kidding. You don't have to take notes. Do what you want, 729 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:15.119 uh well, grade at how we want uh to two points. What I 730 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:19.880 hate is when you just put t c percentage, not even CBD percentage to 731 00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:25.320 test eight because that's mandatory product I'm like, all right, really real, 732 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:29.480 real, real cool there. I know, sometimes it just happens. We 733 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:35.239 can't really. Yeah, but you can't count strain name or like with the 734 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:39.400 date it was produced and stuff, because like that that's mandatory. So I'm 735 00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:42.840 saying, I'm saying, when you have that, it becomes just basic to 736 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.960 us. Now, what I prefer if I was like, oh, this 737 00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:50.719 is like kiss kiss, like you know what I'm saying, it would be 738 00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:54.719 lineage of the strain because I want to know the lineage because that is some 739 00:49:54.800 --> 00:50:00.800 of my favorite. Then second would be terpenes. I love knowing the terpenes 740 00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:05.000 because then I know the flavor, the smell before you go to MLA fars. 741 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.039 Let me finish, because there's just pretty much. I was gonna say, 742 00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:09.559 this is probably one of my better ones that I've seen, but keep 743 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:15.559 going. They have They even have the breeder of it, which is opposite 744 00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:17.559 like when you have the breeder who bread that seeds, and then you have 745 00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:21.280 the and then you know the cultivator because that's the brand, and then on 746 00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.599 top of it breaks down the strains. You can't beat that. Terpenes. 747 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:30.159 I'd like to have like top FREEVORC for you and then if you have photos 748 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.679 of the flavors and taste, that's even uposit like how Element does on their 749 00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:37.000 packaging. They have flavors or symbols. And yes there are partners, but 750 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:42.440 listen, we fell in love with this before we even knew them, like, 751 00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:45.440 and that's what made has brought. This is one of the best packages 752 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:47.119 ever. It brings up everything in candidate. I love the fact that he 753 00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:51.000 brought up the pictures with Element. It's also with them. Element might have 754 00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:52.800 been one of the first ones I saw, but that because if you don't 755 00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:55.400 understand what lemonine is, baty carre afeling is, you can see a picture 756 00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:59.000 and understand. My last thing, My last thing I want to say, 757 00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:04.000 sorry sorry, is a dark container. Oh that's good. So that was 758 00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:07.440 good. So the flower and concentrates are good. And bank they hit it 759 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:10.320 like I mean, it's almost like they hurt us because like we cannect it. 760 00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:13.840 And that's what's funny. We always laughed about that before and again now 761 00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:15.639 are they are our partners and we love working again shut out at my love 762 00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:17.840 flower. Yeah. I think honestly, they have the best packaging in the 763 00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.079 game with it. I mean, it's in a nice because this is my 764 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:27.840 end this and they have a nice little saying hold on so they have a 765 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.440 nice saying that says slow cured hand trim, never remediate it. And now 766 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:35.480 this is something I want to bring up and use their example because don't they 767 00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:39.320 hit all the points that we love. But like having that on your package 768 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:43.119 is a flex right now, and I think if you get ahead of it 769 00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:46.760 before it becomes mandatory, then it's really shows how coffee you are in your 770 00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:50.159 product. So I think the remediation is the one thing I want to bring 771 00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:53.159 up with the Perfect Package is I think if you just showed those little details 772 00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:59.960 of things, it's gonna go a long way. Agreed. Agreed, man, 773 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:02.199 I mean they honestly hit it. They got like the perfect package, 774 00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:06.639 like they hit, they hit on everything. Obviously that's main that's good for 775 00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.239 flower, right, but I want that for concentrations well, and that's why 776 00:52:09.239 --> 00:52:13.920 I'm all that maybe you put a QR code that goes to the terpenes and 777 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:17.840 then that showcases to the top percentages, and then that also showcases different flavors 778 00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:20.920 as well. I've seen on some of these tests what it could taste like. 779 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:22.400 So I mean then you're hitting two things right there. I do like 780 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.639 the QR codes. I love the QR codes because, like you know, 781 00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:29.360 you can get all the information, you get more information. My issue is 782 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:30.760 then what if you don't have a phone on you, like you know, 783 00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:32.679 I mean, it's just kind of nice to to look at it and be 784 00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:36.519 like, all right, here's my facts. So I definitely think the QR 785 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.320 genius. I love the QR code. I'm not saying I don't. I 786 00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:43.280 think the QR code is great. I think it's super convenient. I just 787 00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:45.199 think that there's something there's nothing that compares to just being like, here's your 788 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.760 facts, you know what I mean, and you're right there, and with 789 00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:51.320 a pre roll you can't fit all that shit on there. So the only 790 00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:54.360 thing you can do is a QR code. So unless you have a like 791 00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:58.280 seven times, but then that's becoming a waste in my opinion, for like 792 00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:00.400 a one print roll. But there's to be though. You needed that though 793 00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:05.119 for that donut though that was not all that was for some reason, all 794 00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.719 them around me, I really didn't even plan on this. While we're talking 795 00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:12.320 about packaging and almost that that seven to ten donut slabs. Yeah, the 796 00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.360 thing is that back to this don't well to the the packaging was all right, 797 00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.519 and it was like it had a lot of stuff that we want on 798 00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:22.039 here, right treated genetics. I like that it tells you kind of like 799 00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:27.679 that what the rat waxes and what the flower is. But again, you 800 00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:30.880 know, like you know, then it starts going down to like little just 801 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:36.280 like marketing things like colors and design and what is it too bulky? Is 802 00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:37.760 it bulky? Is it is it too? Is it perfect? You know 803 00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.320 what I mean? Things like that is where you start getting those bonus points 804 00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:45.840 in packaging. But I think they would be dope too. Yeah, I'm 805 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:47.400 surprised we haven't seen that take off. And I don't know if that's maybe 806 00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:52.719 just durability or lifespan of the products or what because we've seen them at mj 807 00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:54.800 biscom, but we never really see those take off. I bet should they 808 00:53:54.840 --> 00:54:00.639 lose terps or it probably does something to the concentrate. It's for the flower, 809 00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:01.599 It would have to, because that's actually a good opinion because why is 810 00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:07.159 everyone sticking to my lar? And then like a different I great point though, 811 00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:08.840 man, that would be a perfect packaging. That's the next step is 812 00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:12.360 uh, you know, being able to throw out a pre roll container and 813 00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.800 like hopefully know that it's not ruining the environment right right, because the cannabis 814 00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:22.320 does have a specific well pre roll specifically man and disposable cars. Man, 815 00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:25.719 all these cars everything is nowadays, those are waste. That's true. I 816 00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:29.440 was sticking away containers. I'm like, well you could reuse containers. Yeah, 817 00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:30.280 I got, I got what you're saying. No, that makes sense, 818 00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:34.360 I know. I mean we did expand it because we're talking about packaging, 819 00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.239 but we do have a big waste within the industry as a whole, 820 00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:39.880 and that's something that eventually, hopefully there's something that we can do, anything 821 00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:44.719 that you think make a better package, like anything that's missing right now, 822 00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:53.679 anything that is missing obviously, if we if there was flabonoids, if anything's 823 00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:57.679 like that, we could put on the packaging more cannabinoids, if there's more 824 00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:01.360 CBG instead of just always see D because I think CBDs like the most common 825 00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:07.920 you see. Obviously, some of these plants do have other other cannabinoids in 826 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:13.320 it, so seeing more of that honestly my favorite thing. Like the future, 827 00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.440 I think like like am i lafar, I'll take them, for instance, 828 00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:22.039 their guava juice or their bowser any any when you have a staple strain 829 00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:23.880 within your brand, I truth, this is I don't know. This is 830 00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:29.400 probably what I would do. I would build a custom I build you'd have 831 00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:30.599 a website, right because every brand has a website. I would hope, 832 00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:35.599 especially with social media, you want to have a website. So I would 833 00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:37.960 build a custom landing page with a QR code on the packaging, and you 834 00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.360 would just label everything in it. You would have the strain name, the 835 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.760 breakdown of the strains. I would have a description of how you're gonna feel. 836 00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:50.199 Is it concentrate, is it flour. You might feel this with concentrat, 837 00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:53.559 you might feel this with flour. Because you're giving them all the information. 838 00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:55.840 You can include the terpeens, you can include the pictures. You can 839 00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:00.599 even include photos of the product if you want to see it there too, 840 00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:02.559 like the whole landing page on it. That would be my ideal. That'd 841 00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:05.760 be the ideal. Take them all to your website because once they fall in 842 00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:07.480 love with that, I think in general, you're gonna want to go check 843 00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:10.360 out all the other people do like that. You've seen people do that. 844 00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:14.119 It's it's very because then you can get to know the product on a deeper 845 00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:15.960 level, you know and stuff. Yeah, that's like the next level because 846 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.559 you just more of a description at that point because like everything else after that, 847 00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:22.519 you'd be pretty much ready labeled, like one by one by one by 848 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.039 one by one. I do like description how you feel and maybe like you 849 00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:28.199 know that type of stuff. I like that. I like that a lot. 850 00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:30.360 But I think you're right. I think nail on the head is a 851 00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:32.280 lot of the past stuff on the patching has been hit, but for some 852 00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:36.199 reason some people don't want to do it. And it may be because they're 853 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.599 not hitting the numbers where they can flex or whatever. But it's like, 854 00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:45.719 you know, I still feel like as a user and what you're consuming, 855 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:49.400 you the more you give, the more trust that consumer is going to give 856 00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:52.119 to your company. Dude, right on the heat on that man, especially 857 00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:55.519 with cannabis. As it's a beginning to still grow, Like you're trying to 858 00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:59.679 get that repeat customer, right, because once you get that repeat customer, 859 00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.719 you know that your product's going to sell at X, Y and Z shops, 860 00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:07.800 you'll be able to deliver this amount. You start needing more product when 861 00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:10.039 you're not giving that, especially when you're not giving that to the customer, 862 00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:13.679 and they're going to try a bunch of different brands like Little Wins like that 863 00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.199 are things that can might keep a customer. Right, the more information you 864 00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:20.760 give them never remediated, right, Like some of that stuff stands out to 865 00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:22.880 people, but some of it might not. And then the basic brands, 866 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:25.000 they're always going to be there, right, some of them, and they'll 867 00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:28.679 be able to still get a little bit of a pie. But I think 868 00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:30.440 you want to make a name for yourself, and I think education and giving 869 00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:35.159 as much information to the consumer as possible is gonna be key to keeping that 870 00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:38.960 lifetime value or that repeak customer. Yeah, how many times I think, 871 00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:43.480 like a restaurant that cooks you a great steak or a great food, you 872 00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:45.920 trust their chef. You're going to go there, right, You're gonna continually 873 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:50.119 go there because you've had a great experience. Buying cannabis should be a great 874 00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:52.079 experience. That's why we talk about the entrage buck. That's why we talk 875 00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:57.920 about cannabinoids and terpenes, because you want that youbout that experience when you're smoking 876 00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.920 it, that enjoyable moment. Not everyone smokes like, Yeah, you bring 877 00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:05.280 up food and that's actually a great analogy because it's like almost like going to 878 00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:09.800 a place where they're like it's a sirloin steak versus like this is a wago 879 00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:15.559 blah blah blah. You know, it's a very descriptive specific age for thirty 880 00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:20.119 six hours. Like yeah, right, that's a good analogy because that is 881 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:22.880 the difference. But that's how the difference. You got to look at productause 882 00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.079 some weed is just shit, I'm trying to smoke, and some shit is 883 00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:28.480 like, you know, that next level, And like I think everyone wants 884 00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:30.920 to be that next level and put the marketing out like they're that next level, 885 00:58:30.920 --> 00:58:36.119 but it's that's not where everyone's at. Yeah, And I think in 886 00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:37.119 general, I think a lot of the brands that put time and effort to 887 00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:39.519 the packaging and they really care about the product as a whole, and you 888 00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:43.440 tend to see that within the end product itself, right, I mean because 889 00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:45.920 when you're putting seeing that overdoing these reviews over time, that the people who 890 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.400 do put a little bit more detail into their you know, not always though, 891 00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.079 there are there are those people who I talk shit, I'm just like, 892 00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:57.119 oh, you know, you just flashy marketing, flashy packaging like and 893 00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:00.559 instance ends up being booth. But like, I think you're right when someone 894 00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:02.000 puts into that, like I want to be unique. I want it to 895 00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:05.960 look like this, Like they have a vision. I think they care about 896 00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:10.559 their product because they it's closer to their heart. Yeah, less to their 897 00:59:10.599 --> 00:59:15.719 wallet. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I agree with pointed at 898 00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:22.159 you on the screen, but you're you're over there tennically like I still nodded. 899 00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:29.400 Yeah, I only got one, so it's just going straight back at 900 00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:31.800 you your Texic one. Groovy here, I got three days. I can 901 00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:42.800 see three days right now. Damn sound there's a small little anyways. Yeah, 902 00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:45.480 no, that was today's episode. A lot of news, like updates 903 00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:49.280 because we have we've been doing other stuff with the episodes. But there's a 904 00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:51.199 lot of going on in the rest of the United States, you know, 905 00:59:51.639 --> 00:59:54.440 some stuff going on Michigan, perfect package. What else we talk about? 906 00:59:54.440 --> 01:00:00.679 I think I'm missing something south By Southwest going the psychedelics over Cannabis US more 907 01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:05.519 so more so room uh oh. In the Rochester thing that's being voted on. 908 01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:08.639 The two votes so those were both happened yesterday day. Rochester, don't 909 01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:12.320 say so we'll see where we're at. Hopefully we can make we'll have some 910 01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:15.960 updates for you with Rochester and with Ohio. Will Yeah. Also, fortunately 911 01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:21.039 we're just we're going to talk yeah sorry, sorry, no, no, 912 01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:22.960 we are going to talk about those two on the weake and make some make 913 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:24.760 sure they're nine am. But we're also going to be talking about highest TAC 914 01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:30.320 percentage with an industry between bud tenders and consumers, pretty much about her meme. 915 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:31.360 We're going to bring that up and have a conversation on the wake. 916 01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:34.639 Oh yeah, we're going to try to get to that, but we're already 917 01:00:34.679 --> 01:00:37.119 already hours. That was the last That was the last topic. And since 918 01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:39.760 we didn't get to that, you guys are first to hear that, and 919 01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:43.039 we want to talk about we were going to talk about anyways, it might 920 01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:45.679 be kind of cool. It would actually probably be better to talk about that 921 01:00:45.719 --> 01:00:49.199 on a live so we can get people's comments live and engagement. Yeah, 922 01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:52.039 I'm really curious because this is you and me are going to have the same 923 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:54.639 thoughts and be like yep, yep, yep, yep, but like we 924 01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:58.440 have different people in the chat or a bud tenders experience, you know, 925 01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:00.719 and I've had it both ways. I've had the bud tender who's amazing, 926 01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:06.280 and I've also had the bundander who's just like this is the best THC, 927 01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:09.000 you know, like the highest TC. And then I've also overheard customers who 928 01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:13.280 just walk in there and they're like, what's gonna get me the most high? 929 01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:15.119 Like I don't know, bro, like who are you? Like? 930 01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:17.199 You know, what do you like to smoke? Like on trage effect? 931 01:01:17.239 --> 01:01:21.880 But it's like sometimes people just want to hear bigger number, more higher, 932 01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:25.280 and it's like where it's complicated. And that's why I think we thought, 933 01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:28.639 to me was interesting because we were just trying to like bring up a point 934 01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:32.000 that I think we think it's education, especially after all the comments we've been 935 01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:36.280 getting like it kind of some people are like, oh fact, some people 936 01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:37.840 are like oh no, and it's like really, it's like whoever is the 937 01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:42.960 more educated person seems to be like the other person doesn't care as much, 938 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.039 you know, And that's that's sometimes the weird thing in this industry is not 939 01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:47.599 everyone cares the same, you know. Some people just trying to like get 940 01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:52.400 high and smoke the cheapest shit they can for the hot best like deal but 941 01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:55.840 some people are trying to smoke that that Canta guava nava Turpy Dean shit. 942 01:01:55.920 --> 01:02:01.199 You know, I was trying to you know, some people get really obsessed 943 01:02:01.239 --> 01:02:07.480 in Canady, like Gloe's Kobe. Well yeah, exactly seeing somehing like that. 944 01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:09.679 Like it's like some people are very obsessed and it's just there's levels, 945 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:14.920 I guess, And I think, well, same thing with butt tenders, 946 01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:19.239 like right, same thing with customers, right, No, absolutely absolutely, 947 01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.320 And it's just a pensation. I mean, it'll be a good conversation I 948 01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:25.639 have because I can bring up my buttender experience as well too on Saturday I 949 01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:30.440 did. I was buttender for a while, and it's just gonna be a 950 01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:37.679 good conversation. I don't know. And if you don't get the joke to 951 01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:40.440 that, you're missing our Saturday wake in Vacas. I'm telling you, there's 952 01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:45.559 just a fun time over with the community. Uh. Giveaways. We just 953 01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:47.320 I just sent out some of the last giveaways that we just did for seeds 954 01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:53.239 and shout out Motar Rebel Genetics from our homies out there and my loud Flower 955 01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:58.039 donating some cool seeds and swag packs and stuff that we did for our tour 956 01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:00.639 of episode, But stick around like we did Constant. It's you know, 957 01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:04.800 we always do some have Funyeah, we'll be getting back into those. We'll 958 01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:07.000 have a holiday giveaway sometime in December, so stay tuned. Other than that, 959 01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:10.400 we appreciate you all. Obviously you're listening to us, So give us 960 01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:14.000 that hit, that five star review, drop us some nice comments on Apple. 961 01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:21.159 We greatly appreciate that it helps us boost us up. I love it 962 01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:22.199 does it does and I look up and I'm like, oh damn, we 963 01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:25.639 got no fun. I'm like, like you guys, you guys touch me 964 01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:31.199 sometimes it makes me feel great. But other than that, check us out, 965 01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:36.480 check out our socials groovies. Dropping a sweet remix to uh Spider. 966 01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:42.079 I don't know bo cover that remax would be like my own version. I 967 01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:44.239 really just did a cover. But yeah, yeah, yeah know I'll be 968 01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:45.519 I'm doing that. I never tried it. It's different. Did some key 969 01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:51.360 sacks and a little bit of I just layered my vocal in so I can 970 01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:53.079 layer. I'm I don't think I'm a good singer, you know, but 971 01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:54.960 it's like I can't I can layer some ship in there, you know, 972 01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:58.840 I can't really, I can't be a lead singer, you know, but 973 01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:00.400 I've heard scrillics just like hear his voice underneath someone. I'm like, well, 974 01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:05.800 that's a good idea. You're like, I want okay music people just 975 01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:10.559 exactly in the future. And like Dave said, check us o on the 976 01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:13.679 waken Bank Man, we're really both stoked to talk about this topic. So 977 01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:19.000 yeah, it's gonna be fun Friday or Saturday, nine a m Eastern YouTube 978 01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:24.519 I G. Facebook, actually go to YouTube or i G. Other than 979 01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:27.440 that, you can find me a can of Dave, find my boy, 980 01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:30.280 where can they find you a groovy groovy music, groovy music two weeks if 981 01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:35.119 you follow us my can of cast everywhere. Other than that, you all 982 01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:39.719 have a great week and look forward to seeing you Saturday. And as always, 983 01:04:39.760 --> 01:05:00.599 we're here to advocate, educate, and inspire the next time on face face as