WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:11.199 It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with aw 2 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:15.160 fan Hub. This is your host, Kelson, and I'm sitting here with 3 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:20.440 Net and MK and Sutton and we're gonna talk about a few things, but 4 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:25.480 we're gonna start with Revolution. I'm gonna go right to Net. Give it 5 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:29.039 a rating on you know, give it a rating on a scale one to 6 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:32.479 ten. Give me what you thought was the best and maybe the most surprising. 7 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:35.359 And if you want to go into the worst to be a negative Nancy, 8 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:40.640 you know, or a negative Ken, go ahead in some people's cases 9 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:45.159 and just let us know what did you right off the bat? What was 10 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:50.600 your rating for the show? My rating for Revolution, I would have to 11 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:57.799 give it a ten out of ten. I liked everything about it. My 12 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:03.879 favorite match would have to be will Osprey and Takeshta. I think that was 13 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:11.920 fantastic. Yeah, and I was a little bit surprised that FTR lost. 14 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:18.920 I had picked them to win. One of my other favorite things was when 15 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:23.200 Darby Allen went through that glass panel. Oh yeah, I was higher table. 16 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:30.879 I'm sure you to do. I mean, I expect him to do 17 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:37.120 crazy things, but that really really took it over the top, And did 18 00:01:37.200 --> 00:01:41.359 you see how many stitches he got? Twelve? I think twelve. I 19 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:45.079 would have thought he would have gotten like thirty two. That was like a 20 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:47.319 third of what I thought he was. I'm sorry, but go ahead. 21 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:51.840 I just thought it was amazing. Twelve stitches. Yeah, I've honestly, 22 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:56.359 I for a minute there, I thought he had died. Honestly, when 23 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:01.159 he wasn't moving and they weren't putting the camera over on that side on purpose, 24 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:09.039 I thought he was really out of there. But yeah, and let's 25 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:15.800 see, uh what else. I was really hyped for that Eddie Kingston Danielson 26 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:21.919 match, and I was a little disappointed with it. I thought it could 27 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:25.879 have been a little bit better there. It seemed like something was missing. 28 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:32.560 What do you? Could you pinpoint? Because I unfortunately didn't see it. 29 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:37.800 I had to go get, you know, some stuff out of my ears 30 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:42.120 and it took the entire match. But anyway, what was missing in your 31 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:47.439 opinion? Well, you know, I have been looking at at Eddie a 32 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:53.719 little more critically since you and I have been discussing it, and I know 33 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:58.120 that you are not an Eddie fan, so I have been trying to look 34 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:00.240 at things from the other side. Of the fence, so to speak, 35 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:06.879 and I thought that he could have brought a little bit more. He just 36 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:10.840 seemed to, like you pointed out a couple of times to me, be 37 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:16.960 doing the same kind of moves, the same kind of action, and I 38 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:23.719 felt almost like Danielson was holding back a little bit. I just something about 39 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:30.680 it seemed a little off with the two of them. I'm I don't know, 40 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:35.680 so yeah, again, I didn't see to imagine. Was it a 41 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:39.039 chemistry thing? Do you think they didn't that they lacked chemistry together? I 42 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:46.080 maybe that's what it was. It just I don't know. It seemed like 43 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:50.919 there was a lot of hype around it, so maybe it just didn't live 44 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:58.479 up to the hype that had been there. And I expected the whole time 45 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:00.840 that Eddie was going to win, and I feel like they kind of gave 46 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:06.439 it away when they put that handshake stipulation on it. So there was no 47 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:12.639 surprise to anything. I mean, you know, Danielson's gonna come out and 48 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:16.480 he's gonna kick somebody. You know, Eddie's gonna flip somebody. There was 49 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:24.199 no wow moment in that match. It was a straight up match. Yeah. 50 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:28.879 Basically it was basically if I'm reading you right. It sounded to me 51 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:32.600 like you got what you expected, but because it was a pay per view, 52 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:38.199 maybe you wanted a little bit more. That's it. That's that's exactly 53 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:44.079 it. Okay, that's fair. That's fair, all right. So if 54 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.240 you know, mon, I'm just gonna go ahead and move on to m 55 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:53.000 MK and Thatt if you want to ask MK a question, and Sutton also, 56 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:57.720 you know, feel free to break in uh into the discussion. So 57 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.360 MKA, you know, rate this Revel Solution pay per view on a scale 58 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:04.000 one to ten? What did you think was the best? Would surprise you? 59 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:14.519 And maybe if you have a worst, what was the worst? N 60 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:23.040 MK, you got an unmute to talk. I needed myself. I love 61 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:28.399 the pay per view, I'm gonna say in eight point five great overall, 62 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:33.360 I really like I said, I really love like she said. I I 63 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:43.399 really love to talk Takashka and Osprey. That was great. There are some 64 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:51.079 really Solow matches. I really love the world title match, so that's awesome 65 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:56.720 as well. You know, it was good. I I'm not a fan 66 00:05:56.800 --> 00:06:03.079 of multi man matches, so I didn't like to scramble. I figured Wardlow 67 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:09.680 was gonna win. Anyway, but I just don't like them. There's too 68 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:15.639 many people and it felt weird and it felt I thought it sink and I 69 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.639 is wrestling. I don't know what else to call it. It was not 70 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:23.680 necessary. I thought it was entertaining, but I thought overall the match was 71 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:28.279 just filler and unnecessary because you knew Warlow was gonna win its every but and 72 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:31.319 something. Do you agree with that too, did you? Yeah? My 73 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:36.720 problem with the match was there was no need to put Jericho and the smaller 74 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:42.439 guys in that match, because my saying, yeah, if you took those 75 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:46.360 four out and you left it just at the four big guys, it's a 76 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:50.319 hell of a match. But it was weird to me though. Yeah, 77 00:06:51.600 --> 00:07:02.519 it was weird. Okay, sorry, you'll get your okay, I just 78 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:09.800 look okay, yeah, uh sorry. Uh. I just feel honestly that 79 00:07:09.879 --> 00:07:12.879 it kind of felt synchronized because at one point it was all the big men 80 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:15.959 in and then somehow all the big men got out. It was a four 81 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:20.879 little man in and it was just so synchronized and so bad. I didn't 82 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:28.040 mind the women's title match. It kind of it's kind of a slow pace, 83 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:33.519 but honestly I felt that it was good for what it was. The 84 00:07:33.560 --> 00:07:36.600 two could have been a lot more built Its built up so big that I 85 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:42.399 think it could have been a lot bigger, And I don't want to nitpick, 86 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:47.079 but I was not a super fan of the way the whole thing's last 87 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:50.079 Max went down, with the glass breaking and stuff. I thought it was 88 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:55.240 a little over the top and a little corny at times, was seeing getting 89 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:57.959 all the offense and stuff like that. But like I said, I'm a 90 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:00.199 huge fan. I'm glad he did what he did and the way he went 91 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:05.439 out, but it felt a little corny to me with old Man's being being 92 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:09.560 the craft out of two younger guys like that, But I would have was 93 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:15.680 Was there anything of you that was surprising to you? Surprising? No? 94 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:20.079 I thought it was a very good match. I knew that the Tavaschina mask 95 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:22.839 and Osprey was gonna be good, but I didn't know it was gonna be 96 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.839 that good. That was a match of the Knight for me. Right, 97 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.600 Okay, that's fair, let's go to Sutton. Go ahead and rank this 98 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.759 between one and ten and decimal points are allowed. And you know, like 99 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:41.480 everybody else did, give me like your best and maybe the one that surprised, 100 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:43.240 the match that surprised you, or the moments that surprised you, and 101 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:48.679 if you have a worse share that with us too. Okay, Uh, 102 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:54.559 i'd given an eight. I the beginning of the match. The beginning matches 103 00:08:54.000 --> 00:09:01.399 were just they didn't seem like they were pay per view worthy. The meat 104 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:07.720 match or the Scramble could have been gone. The FTR and BCC match, 105 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:11.519 it was just another match. It didn't really need to be on the pay 106 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:16.360 per view until you got to the offspring to catch just match there was. 107 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:20.960 That was That's when it started, and then it picked up steam and went 108 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.919 to the end. Uh. That was that. I mean, that's gonna 109 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:28.200 be everybody's favorite matches the night. I believe because that match was unbelievable. 110 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.879 Somebody said this only march from where he got a match of the of the 111 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:35.720 Year candidate, and that's gonna be hard to talk. I really do believe 112 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:43.799 that the women's match was Okay, it's about what I expected. The Statlander 113 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:48.120 match, that was kind of what I expected. It wasn't It was a 114 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:50.720 pretty good match. I didn't have a problem with the Eddie and uh the 115 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:54.879 Eddie match, I thought that was a decent match to this thing. I 116 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:58.960 get where MK is coming from, but it was it was the best way, 117 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:03.320 first thing to go out. I think they did that perfectly. Uh 118 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.519 yeah, I get the fact that that people may say, well, it 119 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.320 was a young you know, and meeting up two young guys, but that's 120 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:13.360 thing. Thing's always been that way in most of his matches. If he's 121 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:16.879 not if he's winning, he's gonna make that kind of thing. And they 122 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.000 said, I think they sent him off, right. I did like the 123 00:10:20.279 --> 00:10:24.519 I kind of wish they would have did the opposite way with the suns because 124 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:28.120 the surfer dude looked good. The other guy was a little too small, 125 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:33.679 you know what I mean. So I don't know. I was pretty I 126 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:37.440 was pretty happy with it. But I believe, like like MK said, 127 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:39.879 I believe thet the scramble was probably the worst of the match of the night. 128 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:48.320 Okay, I'll get my thoughts. I thought it was a nine point 129 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:54.519 five. I do agree with you that the first couple of matches were kind 130 00:10:54.559 --> 00:11:01.000 of fillerish, but they served a purpose and they were fine. I actually 131 00:11:01.120 --> 00:11:03.879 enjoyed the eight man match, and I am not one that likes the eight 132 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:09.799 man matches. I don't like multi man matches. I don't like Trio's matches. 133 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:13.279 I just don't enjoy them as much. When I say I don't like 134 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.639 him, but that's not true. It's that I don't enjoy them as much. 135 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:22.200 They're two convoluted and there's too much going on and there's no way if 136 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:26.879 you're watching from home they can keep up with it. I disagree with you 137 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:33.159 totally about Stings sons because the guy who was the son Steven that was Wolfpack 138 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:41.080 Sting is far, far, far, far bigger than the guy that was 139 00:11:41.159 --> 00:11:46.159 Surfer Sting. He's absolutely jacked. You can go his name is Stephen Borden 140 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:52.799 Junior and you go on his YouTube and he basically does work out YouTube videos 141 00:11:52.919 --> 00:12:01.480 and he is massive. Yeah, Takesha and Osprey were the was the match 142 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:07.320 in a night for me, and the World Championship match was really good. 143 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.759 It exceeded my expectations, and that's what I kind of wanted to say about 144 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:16.440 this pay per view. Even though I wasn't really looking forward per se to 145 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.440 the eight man match, it exceeded my expectations. I really wasn't too much 146 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:26.320 into the FTR and the BCC match, but again it exceeded my expectations. 147 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:31.480 I gave the pay per view a nine point five, and the only reason 148 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.159 I gave it a nine point five was because of the Women's World Championship match, 149 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:39.840 not that it was a bad match. After I rewatched it, it 150 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:46.000 was a decent match, but did not come anywhere close to my expectations, 151 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:52.519 and it was misplaced. It didn't keep up with the flow of all the 152 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:56.879 other matches on the pay per view where it was action action, action action 153 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:03.320 and just find out do themselves and uh, and I just felt that it 154 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.440 was to stay. I think they tried to do a technical match and they 155 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:11.840 didn't and it didn't work on that level, and it just got to be 156 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:16.279 a point where it was just a grappling match that, you know, frankly, 157 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:22.519 was very boring, especially when you keep in mind that you know, 158 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.279 as we said on the previous podcast, we did a poll with the aw 159 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:33.679 fan up community. We pulled the uh you know, the members here, 160 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:39.600 and I think one person in the entire aaw fan up community now you can't 161 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:41.919 remember it's what it was. But with one of our podcasters thought that the 162 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:48.639 po something, Yeah, it wasn't you picked somebody picked the out of Parazzo 163 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:52.759 to win, and you were the only one to do so. Out of 164 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:58.480 hundreds of votes across Reddit and YouTube and threads and blue Sky and Twitter, 165 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:07.720 one person in the entire community picked the pazzo. Yeah. Well, you 166 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:13.200 know, hey, it's it's any given Sunday, right, and it was 167 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.360 on Sunday, so it could have happened. Hey, I got I guess 168 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.120 I might find kind of funny. We talked about the pay per view, 169 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:22.159 all of us, not one person mentioned the T n T title match. 170 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:30.639 Well, it was it was a it was a serviceable match, But I 171 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:35.519 honestly feel like Danny Danny Garcia was substitute. Yeah, and and like we 172 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:39.639 said before we were talking earlier, I think that that ended. It seemed 173 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:45.200 like it just it was rolling along and then it just died and it was 174 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.360 over, and it was just like, this don't make any sense. I 175 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:50.759 think there was. I think something had to have happened, at least it's 176 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:56.879 the way it seemed to me. Getting involved, I got over it. 177 00:14:56.000 --> 00:15:01.159 I mean, once mother Wayne got involved and one and and stuff, I 178 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:03.639 figured out that it was going to be the same old, same old. 179 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:07.639 That's why I really think it's time for a change that belt. But I 180 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:13.639 don't. I don't see it happening though. Well, uh, speaking of 181 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:20.320 belts, we're going to talk about a few of the championship belts in a 182 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:26.480 W. And here's one of the interesting facts about the Revolution pay per view. 183 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:31.840 Now, they weren't all in title matches, but of the eight championship 184 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:37.159 belts in ae W and if you want to say FTW championship and make it 185 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:46.799 nine, every single title holder in a W did participate in one form or 186 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:52.879 the other in a match at Revolution, So that was good. Of course, 187 00:15:52.919 --> 00:16:00.120 we're a couple in in the in the zero hour, but we're we're 188 00:16:00.159 --> 00:16:03.960 going to talk about some of the belts. We're all going to take one 189 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:07.600 belt and talk about what we see happening or what we would like to happen 190 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:14.200 in the near future. And we're going to go to net first and let 191 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:18.600 her talk about the belt that she chose to talk about. Go ahead, 192 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:27.000 and that Okay, I chose to talk about the tag team belts. I 193 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:36.000 like tag team wrestling a lot. I always have. It's just really good 194 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:42.200 stuff. When you have two people that have good chemistry, that know each 195 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:48.759 other really well and work together to win matches. I think a good example 196 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:57.600 of that is FTR and Mox and Claudio. I think they are good examples 197 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:03.799 of tag team at teams that work really well together. I'd like to see 198 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:11.319 AEW do more with their tag team wrestling in general. They have some other 199 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:17.759 groups of people that are really good together and that they could push a little 200 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:22.039 bit more, build up a little bit more. And I think now is 201 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:30.480 a really good opportunity for that to happen since the belt has been vacated by 202 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:37.119 Tony Kahan, So I think there's a real opportunity for some good competition and 203 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:44.000 I hope to see them make that happen and it doesn't fall into Everybody fight 204 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:52.599 the Young Bucks and every week FTR and Blackpool Combat Club is having some kind 205 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:57.000 of disagreement. I hope they get to showcase all of the other tag teams 206 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:00.960 that they have. Let me ask you a Let me ask you a question 207 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:03.880 real quick, because we've talked about this on the podcast before, but I 208 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:08.839 don't know if I've ever spoken to you specifically about that about this. And 209 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:17.319 the question is do you feel like the trios titles and all the teams that 210 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:22.640 are in the trios titles take away from the tag title in other words, 211 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:25.920 what I'm saying is, Okay, so you have the guns they're not a 212 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:27.839 tag team because they're in the trios. You have the acclaim they're not a 213 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:33.880 tag team because they're in the trios. And of course you've had other trios 214 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:37.759 teams that were not participating in tag matches because they were trios in the past, 215 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:42.839 like Desk Triangles, the Elite, et cetera. So the question is 216 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:45.920 do you think that the Do you think that that's an issue. Do you 217 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:52.759 think that the trios title is taking away from the tag titles? I do. 218 00:18:53.519 --> 00:19:00.480 I think so, because it's it's too much going on. I mean 219 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:04.519 every now and then. To have a trios match would make things interesting. 220 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:11.720 But to put a lot of the tag teams in with a third person and 221 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:18.519 have them fight for that belt steams the little over the top, I guess 222 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.319 is a good word. I prefer that they keep it to the tag team 223 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:30.519 matches and let it go from there. So yeah, that's how I think 224 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:41.759 about it. Okay, I'm going to move on to MK now and he's 225 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:45.680 going to talk about the title that he chose to speak about, and I 226 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:52.400 have some I actually have a pretty pretty straight forward question to ask you too. 227 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:57.920 If you don't bring it up in your discussion, go ahead. I'm 228 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:07.559 kay. Well, look, I I really love this belt from the beginning, 229 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:10.960 even though it changed from I don't remember what it was called in the 230 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:17.640 beginning. But what what belt are we talking about? The Intercontinental Belt? 231 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.359 I used to be called something else. I can't remember what it was. 232 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:26.599 It used to be called the inter Well, what what was it called? 233 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.240 Was it? Because it's not the Intercontinental Belt, it's at the International Belt 234 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:34.200 something like that. Yeah, yeah, it was Atlantic belt. That's called 235 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:41.079 the it's called the International Belt. Yeah yeah, I'm sorry. So I 236 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:45.319 like the idea of it, but that but the riginal idea was a travel 237 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:52.160 and the number one thing that needs to stay away from the international title is 238 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:56.359 Orange Cassidy. I love the guy. He's a star. He's made it 239 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:02.519 what it is. But I began the joke in the chat lafetime for the 240 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:07.200 pay per view was that his his ring gear needs to start, including the 241 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:14.240 Kinetic Cape. He's always beaten up, he's always he's always the underdog in 242 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:18.880 it, and that's great, but I think it's time for Orange Cassidy to 243 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:21.039 move on from that. Though I don't want to see him come back and 244 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.200 go for it again. On the other hand, the person who thought of 245 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:26.839 that pay per view I'm not a fan of. I want to like the 246 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:33.599 guy. He's a war coorse, but he bores me to tears. He 247 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:37.759 was okay when he was doing the screaming people's name. I got to chuckle 248 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:42.039 out of that. But I just want that title to go back to where 249 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:48.440 it needs to be on someone who is fun to watch, who who has 250 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:53.279 the move, who can take it overseas and be fine with it. What's 251 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:57.200 Orange Cassidy did? Like I said, he's he's fun to watch, but 252 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:03.480 he's growing still. I'd love to see him go more of a tween your 253 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:06.920 persona anyway, but that's a different time and place for that. But the 254 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:11.160 person I talked about last week that needs to get it is Will Osprey. 255 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:15.200 He would be great to send them places. As he's shown on the pay 256 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.680 per view, he can put on a mask with just about anybody and make 257 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:23.640 it look good. He's fantastic. He looks so dank smooth. I don't 258 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:29.559 know who to compare the dude to, but he is phenomenal his attitude, 259 00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:33.400 he can be healed, he can be face and if we're paying him all 260 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:37.599 this money to come over, he needs a title, and that's the title 261 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.279 to do. I don't think and he and t is it. But if 262 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:44.240 he can be on every week and do his thing, it's great to put 263 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:51.000 him in that match and have him be the guy the face of the International 264 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:55.880 division. Now, well, you know what you said just to beget this 265 00:22:56.079 --> 00:23:00.200 off, was actually related to the questions that I wanted to ask you and 266 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:04.240 the others could jump in too after you answer MK. You called the international 267 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:10.519 title at the beginning of your discussion the intercontinental title. Yes, uh, 268 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:15.000 my question was directly related to what you said in that what's the difference between 269 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:19.160 the international title and the continental title? And you know, we've talked about 270 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.599 this before in the podcast and in the community, and a lot of people 271 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.680 say there is no difference and they should just combine them in the one belt. 272 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:33.559 What do you feel about that? What's the different between in w W 273 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:41.880 the no the Continental title that Eddie Kingston is currently h and the international title 274 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:47.480 that Roderick Strong now has. Okay, I got you, what's what's what's 275 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:52.160 the difference? I mean they should be they should be the same title. 276 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:59.079 You have a point there. I haven't thought about that. The other one 277 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:03.640 came along, and I think they wanted that to be inter promotional too, 278 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:07.680 So I don't know, that's a good question. I don't see the need 279 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:12.119 for that that belt anyway, to be quite honest with you, which belt 280 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:18.759 are you talking about? The the Continental Collapse Classic or whatever it's called. 281 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:23.279 I don't I don't see a purpose for that. I'm not a big and 282 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:26.440 but yes, they you know, they could have left that alone and then 283 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:32.799 let and then join in the r O H and whatever other one and then 284 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:37.119 New Japan. But that one's going to credit anyway, because no one's even 285 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:42.039 mentioned just the international flavor with it. So right, maybe you have a 286 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.799 point. Maybe they didn't need to. You're making a good point because when 287 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:52.440 you have something that's called the continental title and the international title and they're fighting 288 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:56.000 basically the same people week after week, both of the groups basically, and 289 00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:03.559 they're not taking it international or continental, what's the point. But I agree 290 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.480 with you. The Continental title for me, and I don't know how I'd 291 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.599 like to get the other people's opinions on this, but for me, the 292 00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:17.480 Continental title specifically had a really great tournament and then as soon as the tournaments 293 00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:19.680 over, it should have been handled like the Owen Hart Tournament. The other 294 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:26.240 belt should never have been attached to it because that that title is absolutely one 295 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:36.240 meaningless. It's the reason why one of the reasons why when I mean it's 296 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:37.759 phoned in. I mean, you know who's gonna win every time, you 297 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.039 know, you know Eddie's not gonna lose it. What's the point watching it? 298 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.839 And that's the reason why I didn't watch the match between Eddie Kingston and 299 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:52.920 Brian Danielson because there was no point in watching it at all. So I 300 00:25:52.039 --> 00:25:56.279 know you're king Stefander, you did mention something about it, But do you 301 00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:03.000 think that the international title the continental title should be combined? Who mean yes, 302 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.039 oh, sorry, yes, I do. I think that it should 303 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:12.519 be. It's the same belt running around on two different people who are doing 304 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:21.359 the exact same things, So I think so. And also when that belt 305 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:30.960 was one in the Owen Heart Cup, it seems like it should just kind 306 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:40.000 of stays there and be an honor that is talked about. And you know, 307 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:45.000 everybody knows you won that tournament, and it's great and it's fantastic, 308 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.920 but you don't need to parade a belt around all year for it. That's 309 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:55.759 how I think about it. Yeah, yeah, I mean the Continental title. 310 00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.640 I mean the Continental tournament for me, and I'm going to go to 311 00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:03.279 Sutton next But for me, the Continental tournament was far better than the on 312 00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.759 a hard tournament and taking nothing away from the O Heart turnment because that was 313 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.880 fine too. But at the end of the day, they're not really I'm 314 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:18.119 sorry, I don't consider it the one hard tournament winner a title holder. 315 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.680 They want a tournament, and I feel the same way about the Continental title. 316 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.640 They're not a They're not a title holder. They won a tournament, 317 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.440 you know, I think about it, you know, And that they attached 318 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:34.519 the R o H title and the DO Japan title to the Continental title is 319 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:40.680 just I'm sorry, it's for me, it's stupid. But elf, what 320 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.440 are your thoughts on this? Let me disagree with you all. Okay, 321 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.279 here's the difference they had between the two. The Continental title. The reason 322 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:51.359 they this is where I this is my take on it. The reason they 323 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:55.640 attached the two other titles to it is that title will be defended in one 324 00:27:55.680 --> 00:28:00.079 of three places, aw R O H or New Japan. The International title 325 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:04.960 can be defended anywhere. That's the difference in the three titles. That's that's 326 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.640 the biggest difference between them all. I have not yet seen they have not 327 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:14.319 yet taken it anywhere else, but that to me is generally why they did 328 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.559 the continental title. It's going to be repeated every year. It's going to 329 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.000 have a different next year because whoever the AAW champion is is going to be 330 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:26.720 included in it. So that's where I see it coming from. I you 331 00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:32.880 know, I don't know. I think that I wouldn't combine them because then 332 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:36.799 you're you're and a lot of the times they did this because they wanted more 333 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:41.119 titles. I mean, let's be honest, they have maybe one too many 334 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:47.240 titles. You know, we talked about the triple the title, the the 335 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.680 six Man titles earlier. I think that they're gonna end up getting rid of 336 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.880 one of those in a combination night somewhere, either be the R O H 337 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:59.759 or the AW ones because they don't both need one. Yeah, so I 338 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.000 think it's gonna be I think what's gonna end up happening at the end of 339 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.440 this Bang Bang scissor Gang. I think what's gonna end up happening is the 340 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.000 way it seems right now, is you're for the tag team tournament that's coming 341 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:15.400 up, They're going to split them up and it's going to be Daddy Ass 342 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:22.160 going to the Bang Bang and the Acclaim becoming the Acclaim again. That's just 343 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:23.480 how I see it happening. And then they're gonna end up having all the 344 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:27.240 titles and they'll figure out what's doing from there. But I kind of like 345 00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:32.839 the way they have it. You're probably ramk about Orange. I love Orange 346 00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:37.119 Cassidy. I think he's one of the best we got and he did elevate 347 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.880 that title as the highest you can but he does need to take a break. 348 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.160 I mean, he's been wrestling for how long he's defended that thing, 349 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.799 like thirty sometimes, so you know, he does need to have a break. 350 00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:53.480 I think if you get the titles, the Continental title off of Eddie 351 00:29:53.960 --> 00:30:02.359 and put it on somebody else like Okada or Jay White or anybody that's more 352 00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:07.039 into the other areas, that it will make it better. Yeah. Well, 353 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.759 I'm gonna make one more point on this. I mean, one day 354 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:17.200 announced the Continental title, they did that Brackets announcement show on YouTube, and 355 00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:19.400 at that time, that was when Eddie came out and said that he's putting 356 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:25.480 up his NJPWN ROH titles up. And then they did the brackets all right, 357 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:30.240 And I looked at the brackets at that very first day before the before 358 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.000 the tournament even started, and I said, Okay, the brackets look really 359 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.559 good and there's gonna be some really enjoyable matches in this bracket. But we 360 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.440 know that Eddie Kingston's already gonna win, because there's no way they're going to 361 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.240 take those titles off of Eddie Kingston for this. So you went into the 362 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.440 tournament knowing that Eddie Kingston was going to win. As a matter of fact, 363 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.119 I also predicted that Eddie Kingston was going to lose his first match because 364 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.839 they had to make him an underdog. So they come back and win it. 365 00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.559 Ra rah Ree kick him in the raw, row Rask kick him in 366 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.359 the other day kind of thing, you know what I mean? So well, 367 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.799 and that's the thing with Eddie. You know, they they you knew 368 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:08.519 it was gonna happen, and that sometimes comes in to be a problem for 369 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:14.000 aw in general. They do a lot of things that you already know what's 370 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:18.920 gonna happen, but the story is what they try to build. Yeah, 371 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.680 but the story is meaningless if you already know the ending. But anyway, 372 00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:26.720 that's my point, and I'm not talking down on that particular title. I'm 373 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.519 talking down on a lot of the titles. You get a lot of matches 374 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:38.279 where you just know that the story is meaningless because there's no no way that 375 00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:45.599 this wrestler is going to beat the champion or whatever. But anyway, Uh, 376 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.640 so we're gonna go to Elf Sutton here now, and uh you're going 377 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:53.119 to talk about the EBS title. I believe, so go for it. 378 00:31:53.759 --> 00:32:00.000 So we've got four women that are in for the in in this convoluted area. 379 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:04.599 For the TBS title. You've got Stat who's the former champ. You've 380 00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.559 got uh my name, the names are gonna go from me right now, 381 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:14.880 and uh Willow who is her partner, And they've been tagging up with Julia 382 00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:22.359 and sky Blue. But honestly, I'm hoping that they're going to I don't 383 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:28.160 I have a problem with with uh their their their manager. He just he's 384 00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.000 just so smarty. I just don't. I don't like him being with Willow 385 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:35.480 and and and Stat because it just doesn't fit. I just don't see it 386 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.880 fitting well. I see. I see that by the time the next pay 387 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:44.799 per view comes. I'm kind of hoping that stat is kind of whittled off 388 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.319 because she's had it. She's better than that. She doesn't need that title 389 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:52.039 anymore. She needs to go towards the women's title that she just needs to 390 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.640 be completely out of that and it needs to come down to Willow, Guy 391 00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:00.000 Blue, and Julia. I don't want to see a three way title match, 392 00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:05.240 but it might come. But I definitely would like to see maybe the 393 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:09.400 next pay per view having Willow versus Julia for the title. I think that 394 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:13.920 would be an awesome match. I think that could be They could build that 395 00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:21.480 up where halfway through they could have the Sky kind of either go back to 396 00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:24.880 helping Willow or something could happen there. But we know that they like to 397 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:29.119 do three way matches for titles, so there might end up being a three 398 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:31.119 way between Julia Sky and her. I don't know, but that's what I 399 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:35.759 would like to see happening. That's how I actually see it happening. But 400 00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.880 we'll figure I guess we'll see in the future. Well, let me go 401 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.359 to that real quick and just ask you point blank. I mean, who 402 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.519 would you like to see be Julia Hart's next real challenger. You mean, 403 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:52.400 like a pay per view worthy challenger for Dynasty, say for the TPS title 404 00:33:52.680 --> 00:34:01.039 or Julia Heart. Ooh, I don't know. I really don't know. 405 00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.640 So there lies a problem too, you know, Yeah, you know? 406 00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:12.320 So I mean if you don't know, you don't know and bad that that 407 00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.760 could be a bad thing. It could be a good thing. Okay, 408 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.599 do you have anybody in mind that maybe, you know, hypothetically could chase 409 00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:22.840 you challenge Julia Hard at say Dynasty in April. I think he's a nail 410 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:27.480 on the head. There's not a lot of young people I'd like to see 411 00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.679 eventually adding on with it. But my thing is, and I think when 412 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:36.760 it first came out, that title seem punk was against it because it didn't 413 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:38.400 make sense, and I'm and I hate to agree with the guy, but 414 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:44.400 I kind of do. I would rather see that title be a the TBS 415 00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:49.280 Women's Tag Team because there's plenty of women in the Vision Showcase and I would 416 00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.960 rather have that in there than having two women's titles because there's not enough talent. 417 00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:57.400 Maybe when Mercedes and then get in there, there'll be more people, 418 00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.679 and maybe that's something that I may could have, but uh, there's just 419 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:05.760 not enough people in that division to make it work or that I care about 420 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:08.199 enough. I don't care too much about Sky. I love Willow, but 421 00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:14.760 I think she is right up right up there for the other division. So 422 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:20.760 I mean, I don't that is not enough people and that I care about 423 00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:23.280 that. I want to see the belt. Well. The problem with Willow 424 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:28.280 is that Julie has already beat her twice. I believe, I know she's 425 00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:32.039 beat her once, and I believe pretty much everybody is beat Willow. I 426 00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:36.360 mean, if you look at her record from last year, she lost a 427 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:40.880 lot of matches, she really did, and so she's not a championship world 428 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:45.400 championship contender to me. I'm gonna throw a name out there that I think 429 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:50.880 should be would be a good contender, and that's Mariah May. I think 430 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:55.400 Mariah May would be perfect in the TBS title, that would be perfect as 431 00:35:55.400 --> 00:36:00.719 a champion as well. Because I do think that eventually, really soon, 432 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.920 as a matter of fact, probably I may even go so far as to 433 00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:14.760 say it may be announced. A big business is I think that the ROH 434 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:20.920 six Man and the AW Trios Championship are going to have the unification match that 435 00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:28.880 was brought up, and I also think that the AW women's tag team title 436 00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:36.840 belts will be announced, and I think that it's really really something that AW 437 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:43.280 really needs because we already know that they're going to be because of Mercedes Modet, 438 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.360 they're going to be putting more women on TV, which I am one 439 00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:52.639 behind, but it's not going to work if they're going to be on TV 440 00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:58.679 fighting in essentially meaningless matches or squash matches where you know who's going to win 441 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:02.440 win before the match cands. So here here's my thoughts on that, and 442 00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.199 it goes back to the history of wrestling. I know everybody loves the women's 443 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:13.440 matches, but look at like WWE up until the last few years didn't have 444 00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.840 a lot of women's matches. Hell, they didn't have a Devas division for 445 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:22.159 a long time, because the thought has always been women's matches do not bring 446 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.679 ratings. They don't. That's one of the reasons why there's so few of 447 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:29.440 them on TV. With the women's division. There's a lot of people that 448 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:34.000 that that are like Mariah, you have her, you have DEEB, you 449 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:40.119 have Rijo, you have uh, You've got what's her? Name the Kendo 450 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:45.360 girl. I can't think of names right now. You have you have Chidah, 451 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:49.960 you have Statlander, you have sky Blue, you have Willow, you 452 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:53.519 have that's seven right there. Well, so y'all don't forget that. You're 453 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:58.960 also talking about you know, Meggan Main, who is like contract she'll be 454 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:05.800 coming and she's definitely contenter. You Kazakazaki is a title holder from t jp 455 00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:12.320 W. You've got You've got the you know, of course versites money coming. 456 00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.840 Yeah, you've got the chances of Camille coming in and Camille is a 457 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:22.719 top ten wrestler in the world. Is yeah, herself and Queen Amanada. 458 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:27.199 But my point about that is this, you said there's not enough to have 459 00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.559 both those titles. That's not true because you have eleven. If you take 460 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:34.480 away one of those titles, you have eleven women fighting for one title. 461 00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:36.960 Even if you have a tag team, it's not going to be the same. 462 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.960 It's going to be eleven women who deserve or have a shot at becoming 463 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:46.519 a champion with one title. So instead of having like the TVs title it 464 00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:52.559 I think it's necessary because once you do get back to a full roster of 465 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:57.039 women and you get back to the point where you're going to have more women 466 00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:00.199 on TV if you make it, because if you only have you can only 467 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.519 have a few women going after title of the time, you know, so 468 00:39:04.719 --> 00:39:08.199 if you take away one of those women's titles, you kind of bottleneck them 469 00:39:08.239 --> 00:39:15.119 into Okay, well, this month's gonna be it's gonna be Queen Amanada and 470 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:19.679 uh whoever. And next month it's gonna be stat Lander versus this person, 471 00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.920 and you're gonna bottle it up. So they kind of need that. But 472 00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.519 I agree they do need a women's tag team titles. I think that would 473 00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:30.559 be great. They need to care about that well. And the problem was, 474 00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:34.159 like everybody always said, you know they had, the biggest problem was 475 00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:38.280 and I won't go too far into it, but during the pandemic, you 476 00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:45.239 had so few women that could wrestle because everybody was hurt. So but suck. 477 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:47.079 Look at it right now, you've got so many women that are out 478 00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:51.159 with injury. You still you know, you didn't bring up Britt Baker, 479 00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.719 you didn't bring up Jamie Hayter. You know, question you didn't bring you 480 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:59.599 because they've been gone so long. You didn't even bring up thunder Ross or 481 00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:06.840 Serena Deep I know, because it's the mindset because these women have been missing 482 00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.559 for so long. But here's the problem with that. Here's the problem with 483 00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:13.320 that. I didn't say Baker for a reason, and you know why, 484 00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.199 that is right. Some people like britt some people don't. That's fine, 485 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.280 you know. I try to stay off of that when I when I came 486 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.119 because I don't like her. I never did like her, and I think 487 00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:28.199 she was the worst champion they ever had. And it was like with the 488 00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:31.480 TBS title, you had it on somebody else that they wanted to put that 489 00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:35.360 on stat Lander. In the beginning, it was supposed to be like a 490 00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.679 couple of weeks maybe for Cardio to have it, but then that got hurt. 491 00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:42.320 Yes, Jamie Hayter will be great when she comes back, and you 492 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:45.639 can add another name. I wasn't trying to name everybody, but I was 493 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:50.960 just making the point that there are there that makes even if you put Baker 494 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.440 in that run in that I think he would be fine in the TBS title 495 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:58.880 picture, but not in the women's title because she had it, she don't 496 00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:00.840 need it again. But you know that Puts is a thirteen or fourteen, 497 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:05.719 which makes even more for the point of you can't get rid of that title, 498 00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:07.280 because if you do, that's more women you're gonna have, you know 499 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.239 what I mean, it's gonna bottle things up, and you're just gonna make 500 00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:15.639 it where you're gonna have so many matches that don't mean anything. You're gonna 501 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:21.159 have whoever's in that much that for that cycle, whoever the is gonna be 502 00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.920 going. Let's say when Jamie Hater comes back and she's the person they bring 503 00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:29.079 back and they let her get in with and she's going for the world title. 504 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.840 That at least for thirteen other women who might be on TV, but 505 00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:37.559 their matches are meaningless. So at least if you have an extra title like 506 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:42.840 the TVs title, you have something to put them out there for so you 507 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.320 can have more meaningful matches. That's just the way I see it, right, 508 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:50.039 I agree with you. Go ahead, you want to jump in. 509 00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.679 You know, here's here's a problem. I don't have all these wrestlers but 510 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:57.400 not enough TV time. I think that this is this is my opinion. 511 00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:06.360 They need to make a utube show devoted to the female wrestlers so that they 512 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:09.960 can get more on there yet to know them and stuff like that. Because 513 00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:15.320 all the Whistler's coming on end and then you're gonna have a whole roster full 514 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.599 of guys to get on TV on two different shows. And it got to 515 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:22.400 make ram Page. We don't forget you, stole you. You have a 516 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:28.360 rig of honor too. Unfortunately, unfortunately when they joint, when they got 517 00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:32.000 this TV deal, they were told they put no content anywhere else but on 518 00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:36.639 television through the TV deal. So that's why they got rid of Dark and 519 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.719 Dark and Dark, and that that was why it went away, is because 520 00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:45.280 the company that the TV title was said, the TV deal said, you 521 00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:46.880 want the deal, you got to put your content. Everything you make goes 522 00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:51.400 on us. But I agree with you one hundred percent. It was so 523 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.400 much better when you had Dark and Dark Elevation because you could put you could 524 00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:59.000 do five hundred matches on there if you want to two in a week and 525 00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:05.519 you get everybody's yeah, all right, well let's let's move on. But 526 00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:09.920 unless that has something to say, Oh I'm sorry, I was going to 527 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:15.840 say, there's a point about Willow Nightingale that I think a lot of people 528 00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:24.519 miss. Will O Nightingale beat Mercedes Monette, Yes, and kind of well, 529 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:31.639 no one talks about it no one hypes her up. I I kind 530 00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:36.559 of don't like the way they market Willow. I think that she could be 531 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:44.960 a lot stronger, and they kind of make her this silly, bubbly kind 532 00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:50.360 of person running around happy to see everybody, when honestly, I think she 533 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:55.079 could beat the crap out of most of the women's division. I'm going to 534 00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:00.199 be honest with you here. I love Willow Nightingale, but Nightingale is perfect 535 00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:05.840 for a tag team division because Willow Nightingale can't go five bit us without getting 536 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:13.079 completely gassed, and that's a fact. YE to work on her, and 537 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.760 I think pairing her with Stantlander is a good idea. But I think if 538 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:23.639 she just did a little bit more, she'd be a lot better. And 539 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:28.880 and she's definitely over. You can't argue that. Well. That's That's like 540 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:32.360 with like Oors Cassidy. Everybody's talking about you got you got in the title 541 00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:35.360 and he had it for so long, But he's one of the most over 542 00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:37.400 people in the business right now. You know what I mean, he had 543 00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:42.000 you. It doesn't matter what he's doing, he's over. And you have 544 00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.599 a lot of people like that that are that are over that it's it's just 545 00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:49.199 like Will. I love Will. I think she's a great wrestler. I 546 00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.360 don't think that's going to be a problem for her. She had the title, 547 00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:55.079 she took from they, but when they got hurt and she's been on 548 00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:59.360 r O H. So you know, I just I don't know. We'll 549 00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:00.639 see what happens, like I guess. But that's that's a good point though. 550 00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:05.719 Yeah, we'll move on. But there is one point that I want 551 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.400 to make. But did you have something to add? Go ahead, No, 552 00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.840 No, I was I was saying, Okay, I agree there. 553 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.079 But the one thing that I do want to say is that if you look 554 00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:27.239 at the quarterly breakdowns of the wrestling shows, women aw women, specifically Julia 555 00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:34.239 Hart in particular, bring in the ratings, their ratings gold. You know, 556 00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:40.000 they get the highest amount of ratings on Collision when Julia is on. 557 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.280 There have been a few weeks where when her segment had the highest ratings or 558 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:51.559 the second highest ratings on the entire show. So I don't want people to 559 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:57.159 it bothers me when people say that women don't get ratings. What doesn't get 560 00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:01.639 ratings is bad promotion. If you promote anything right, you're going to get 561 00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:06.360 the ratings, and it just so happens is that some of the most over 562 00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:10.119 wrestlers in AW right now are women. You know, you've got to give 563 00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:15.199 them credit. They work their tails off, They got the recognition for themselves. 564 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.960 They just have to be used properly and given the chance to spread their 565 00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:23.639 wings. But I want to move on to We've got two matches we could 566 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:34.679 talk about on AW Dynamite and and but you know, look the the AW 567 00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.119 Dynamite tomorrow night is in Well they keep saying it's Atlanta, but it's really 568 00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:43.000 not. It's about forty five minute minutes northwest of Atlanta, northeast of Atlanta. 569 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.760 I'm sorry and d Luth Georgia, but I guess you could say it's 570 00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:53.920 the Atlanta metropolitan era area. But tomorrow night we're getting a new look for 571 00:46:54.079 --> 00:47:00.719 Dynamite. We've already revealed on the AW fan hubb read it, you know, 572 00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:05.840 a couple of weeks ago. It seems like the new Dynamite logo, 573 00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.840 which if you haven't seen it, just think go Go Power Rangers and you're 574 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:14.320 you've nailed it. And uh, and of course we're looking at new colors. 575 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:16.920 It went from a what are the colors now are like a blue purple, 576 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:21.199 you know, that kind of dark color. Now they're going to look 577 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:29.239 like a reddish rose tint with some yellow and white. So yeah, we're 578 00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:32.360 gonna have to redo our logos and everything for aw Fanom if this isn't in 579 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:37.800 fact the case, but anyway, because all of our aw Fanom logos are 580 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:43.079 purple and you know, various colors of purple and violet and pink, I 581 00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:47.000 guess. But uh so we're having that. But then we're having the matches, 582 00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:53.760 and one of the matches is Will Osprey against Kyle Fletcher and net. 583 00:47:54.280 --> 00:48:01.840 I mean, do you think that something is gonna happen here that will maybe 584 00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:07.599 further well not even well, we didn't see really much dissension in the Callus 585 00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:10.079 family, but do we think that we're going to see some dissension into Kallus 586 00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:16.480 family with this match? I don't know. It's hard to say. I 587 00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:27.039 thought there were gonna be shenanigans with the Osprey to Cashta match, So it's 588 00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.519 I don't know. I'm having a hard time reading exactly what they're up to, 589 00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:37.400 and I don't trust anything that Don Callus is involved in. So you 590 00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:42.480 know what, let me ask you this that because we just saw the Takeshta 591 00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.760 at Osbury match, okay, and it was I mean, we all agreed 592 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:51.719 it was the match of the night. So having a little bit of dissension 593 00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:59.800 between Callus and it was a predictable dissension between Callous and Ausbury or Callous in 594 00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:05.159 two Keshta, that may take it away from the match itself that we just 595 00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:10.519 just blew us away. Would you agree with that statement? Yeah, yeah, 596 00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:19.440 I can see that. And I I really thought that Taqushta was going 597 00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:24.159 to have some resentment and that he was going to just walk away from the 598 00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:30.519 Callous family and be done with everything and everybody, and you know, kind 599 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:35.360 of come back on a vengeance streak. Who knows, he still might, 600 00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:40.039 but I don't. I don't know what to make of it. It's it's 601 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:45.000 really hard for me to tell what's gonna happen when Don Callous is involved. 602 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:50.679 He he always gets one over on me, So I don't know. Yeah, 603 00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:54.519 I really do. Do you think Mark Davis makes an appearance tomorrow night? 604 00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.199 He might, Yeah, he might. He might be there for his 605 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:06.440 good buddy, So yeah, the good buddies may get back together and form 606 00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:12.280 the United Empire. So you know that's you know, so let's go. 607 00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.000 I mean, you heard what that had to say, what I have to 608 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:16.639 say? Okay, what do you what are you thinking about this? Do 609 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:21.840 you think we basically dissension in the Don Callis family? Do you think that 610 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.800 Mark Davis may come? Do you think that the United Empire is destined to 611 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:31.679 be reformed soon? I think it's going to be a slow burning. I 612 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:37.840 if I was booking it, I think I would love to see little Osprey 613 00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:45.800 be the face and bring the house of Don Kallas to its knees and and 614 00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:49.079 end it, because if you look at it, you really have not been 615 00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:52.360 in on the attacks of Jericho. That not. He's still kind of friends 616 00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:59.599 ish with Jericho. So all this stuff that Callous has done with the beat 617 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.440 down stuff, any answer, he's sole friends with Kenny and stuff. So 618 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:09.320 I see him him slowly but surely working and inside and hopefully taking out Don 619 00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:16.440 Callas and read us of the of the answer that his Don Callas. Praise 620 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:23.039 Hellelujah. And every time you think Callous is gone, he's back every single 621 00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:29.800 time. And he's a heat magnet. He's a heat magnet, but he's 622 00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:34.559 he's like the a W S T d Oh, yes, yes, but 623 00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:39.119 but the problem is he has so much heat. He just walked there. 624 00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:42.639 He didn't even have to be in charge of anybody. He just comes out 625 00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:46.599 on the stage. He has heat automatically. So you know, that's one 626 00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:50.880 of those things that's so that I I hate to say it, but that's 627 00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:55.239 what makes him money. Is that's true? Yeah, I mean you gotta 628 00:51:55.360 --> 00:52:00.320 you gotta can at the callous I mean when he comes out, like something 629 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:04.760 just said, when he comes out he doesn't even have to get anywhere near 630 00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:12.280 a microphone on the crowd just it's like lust It's like a lusty. Can 631 00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:17.880 you think of anybody that's ever been like that? I can't. I tried. 632 00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.880 I was thinking about that the other day. I'm thinking, from all 633 00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:24.960 the rest thing I've ever watched in my life, I cannot think of one 634 00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:30.320 person that has the ability to have that much hate put on him that quickly, 635 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:36.840 other than Don Kallas back in his heyday. Rick Flair was able to 636 00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:40.840 do that. But you know, here's the thing about a W fans. 637 00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:46.639 This aw fans show the talent in ADW respect. How many times you've seen 638 00:52:46.679 --> 00:52:52.719 the biggest heel in the company like when Chris Jericho was the biggest heel. 639 00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.280 You know, they paid h respect when he came out. They were singing 640 00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:59.679 his song and they were cheering him like crazy. But as soon as he 641 00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.480 stepped of the ring, the booze started. But they still made time to 642 00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:07.480 cheer for Jericho. They made time to cheer for Kenny Omego when he was 643 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:12.920 a mega heel. They make time to cheer for a lot of the established 644 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:19.480 wrestlers who are heels in a w They do the same thing for Christian Cage. 645 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:27.199 But you know, Don Kallas, he's just he's friend. He's a 646 00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:32.280 whole other animal. So but no, if I wanted to give you a 647 00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:37.880 chance to talking about it a little, honestly, has the the United Empire 648 00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:44.480 actually been broken up? I don't think they're really. I mean they still 649 00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:47.800 do this hands on, and I don't think they've ever officially said we're done. 650 00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.840 They just kind of were in separate places. True, And of course 651 00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:58.599 Mark Davis has been entered twice. So I agree with m K. I 652 00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:00.920 think it's going to be a slow burn. I see that, the pushing, 653 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:06.360 like the whole thing with he's gonna face, you know, he's gonna 654 00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:12.360 face Kyle Fletcher. Tomorrow, I'm figuring on collision, will probably be Will 655 00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:19.639 and then who's left. That's it. So by that time I believe I 656 00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:22.159 think you're right, Kelsey, and I think that Mark Davis is going to 657 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:25.119 be in tomorrow night. I don't know when he has anybody heard when he's 658 00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:28.559 supposed to be back. Is he cleared yet or is he still in there. 659 00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.000 I looked it up actually last week, the beginning of last week, 660 00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:35.760 so it's been about ten days or so since since I did look it up, 661 00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.280 and it just said that, you know, he had heard what was 662 00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:44.199 at his wrist, and they said that he's close. That's all that they 663 00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:49.440 said, and there was really no specifics given on the timetable. I think 664 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:53.280 that he'll be back, even in support. I see, like I said, 665 00:54:53.280 --> 00:55:00.719 he'll go up against Will Hobbes next weekend or maybe next next Wednesday. 666 00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:06.079 And I see that once that gets to that point, I don't know how 667 00:55:06.119 --> 00:55:08.760 they're gonna do it, but I see I see the United Empire. I 668 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:16.039 see Takesha going on his own and possibly even adding maybe Will Hobbs to the 669 00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:24.360 United Empire, because I honestly I think Will Hobbs is a star regardless. 670 00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:29.159 I mean, everybody says it, but I think he could be like so 671 00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:35.719 big if they just I don't know that he necessarily needs a group, but 672 00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:40.320 it's it's so hard to put in the way it would benefit from a group 673 00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:45.199 that could actually help him. He might stand out right. I just I 674 00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:47.639 don't. I don't know. It's just it's just the landscape. It sort 675 00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:52.719 of seems like the landscape of a w is to me. It's like it's 676 00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:55.639 set, it's gonna be. These are gonna be what's there. There's gonna 677 00:55:55.639 --> 00:56:00.800 be very few changes in the land overall landscape, but they have the opportunity 678 00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:06.880 for things like once this is broken up, you could have Will Hobbs go 679 00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:09.800 and be with the Bang Bang Ganang or anybody. Really. I mean, 680 00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:15.599 he's fit anywhere. Let me give you an assessment that I've had of Will 681 00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:20.280 Hobbs for quite a while now, basically since I saw him. When you 682 00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:23.920 see him and he's staring at the camera, he looks menacing. He has 683 00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:30.039 that snarl on his face all the time. But I don't know what it 684 00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:37.760 is, but I really get the impression that Will Hobbs in real life, 685 00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.719 he just gives me the impression and he's like the single nicest guy in the 686 00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:46.800 world that loves to laugh and probably loves children and has like no affinity for 687 00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:51.480 kitty kats and puppy dogs and long walks in the park, you know, 688 00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:55.039 and watching sunsets with his significant other. You know. I don't know what 689 00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:58.920 it is about him, but he just seems like a pussy cat to me. 690 00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:06.239 That gigantic if you look at all the things that people say about him, 691 00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:08.719 that's exactly how he is. I've seen I've seen fans that talk about 692 00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:13.320 him when they see him in the line or if they've met him somewhere, 693 00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:19.199 and that's exactly what he is. His his character, Will Hobbs in the 694 00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:23.360 character is not the Will Hobbes of real life because he's a big teddy bear. 695 00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.800 He's a big, huge teddy bear. He is supposed to be one 696 00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:32.559 of the nicest guys. And I mean, honestly, when there's been a 697 00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.159 couple of times in backstage vignettes and stuff that he's been in it, you 698 00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:38.920 kind of can see that a little bit. Oh yeah, definitely, But 699 00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:45.239 but he kind of gives me the feel of a guy that would be And 700 00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:49.880 I don't know how people feel about him, but like a combination between like 701 00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:54.840 Goldberg right back and uh, there's somebody else I'm missing, I'm not sure 702 00:57:54.840 --> 00:58:00.079 who, and like Rhino, he's this huge guy that is just he's to 703 00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:06.519 me, he seems like he's got an endless uh endless limit. He's limited 704 00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.880 this and what he could do. Yeah, but he's being you know, 705 00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:15.360 being with Callus is not getting him anywhere because they talk about to Questia. 706 00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:20.280 Now they're going to talk about uh Osprey and where's that need him? Yeah, 707 00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:24.639 well, let's let's move on to uh the other match for Dynamite. 708 00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:29.039 You know, Dynamite is a fallout show, so those that will probably be 709 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:32.760 a lot of screaming and yelling back and forth and probably some different challenges. 710 00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:37.400 But the other match that has been set, and since the time we started 711 00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:39.639 this recording, there may have been one or two more matches set. I 712 00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:45.960 don't know, but we have Chris Statlander against Rijo and this one is very 713 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.840 interesting to me and I do have some thoughts on this, but I wanted 714 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:59.760 to get why. You know, first question really is why Statlander Rio Net 715 00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.760 What are you thinking when you hear that match? What's the first thing that 716 00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:13.199 comes to mind. For you, they seem mismatched, but they both are 717 00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:21.119 very good in their own respects. I think that they're trying to push Rijo 718 00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:27.039 again, get her elevated, get her up there. There's something big on 719 00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:32.199 the horizon for her, So this very well may play into it. Maybe 720 00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:42.960 she'll challenge Stokely to a match and end up beating him up. So if 721 00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:49.159 you look at the if you look at the aw fat hub subreddit that there 722 00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:57.679 is a video of a infant literally chopping Stokely Hathway and stoke goes goes to 723 00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:01.360 the convulsions. It's great. But anyway, yeah, so yeah, I 724 01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:06.719 mean, let's kind of let's go to MK and get his thoughts on this 725 01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:12.119 stat Lander Rejo match. You know, at the pay per view, I 726 01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:20.000 notice that they're trying to make just have Stokely turn her heel, and I 727 01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.960 think that's what they're going for, and I think that's why maybe her versus 728 01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:27.360 really most competitive. And I think once again he tried to get her to 729 01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:32.000 cheat and and and use it for an object or something, and that's going 730 01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:38.559 to keep on driving that wedge. SAT doesn't want to become it. But 731 01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:40.960 I think that will help, you know, I hate to say it, 732 01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:45.679 but I would think that may help her character a little bit because she she's 733 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:49.079 gotten to be that alien and she's been that this and that, but she 734 01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:52.719 needs that edge, and I think that's what Stokely's trying to do. But 735 01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:57.800 that's the reason I think is on the card, really really really good point. 736 01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:00.159 Okay, very much online what I'm meant to say, uh so, 737 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:06.360 elf, what do we got? I don't know why they're having this match 738 01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:08.960 other than the fact that they want to get Rio in the match. I 739 01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:13.760 honestly I love Rehill. I think what she has done for wrestling and what 740 01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:19.079 she's done in a w is amazing. I don't think that you're going to 741 01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:23.840 find a smaller wrestler out there, men or women than her, and she's 742 01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:30.360 been aw champion. I I don't like I think, and honestly, I 743 01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:35.960 think Statlanders might be at this present time the best all around wrestler they having 744 01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.440 the women's division. She can do everything. I've always liked her. I've 745 01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:43.199 always thought that she has. She doesn't get used right, sometimes, she 746 01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:47.039 doesn't get pushed right sometimes, I think to m case point, I think 747 01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:52.159 it's more or less he's trying to He's going to I think Stokely is going 748 01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:55.920 to try to start putting a wedge between not not her and turning her heel, 749 01:01:57.199 --> 01:02:00.880 but her and Willow to kind of break that a play. I don't 750 01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:02.960 know what he's and that's just how I see it happening, and I hope 751 01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.840 it happens that way, but I don't know. I like it. I 752 01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:10.320 mean, it's gonna be a good match. It might even better than they 753 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:15.400 other match tomorrow night. Yeah. I mean, look, you guys made 754 01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:19.880 really good points, and it kind of bleeds into what I'm going to say. 755 01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:25.039 When you look at Rio. Rio is one of the most consistent baby 756 01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:30.599 faces in the women's division. She's never had a moment really in aw where 757 01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:37.840 she's had like a heelish aura around her. You can't say that about all 758 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:42.920 the other pretty much all the other wrestlers, they've all had a heel moment. 759 01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:46.960 So I agree that stoke I think this is going to culminate in a 760 01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:54.920 decision first for Statlander, because putting Statlander against Rio is going to make Statlander 761 01:02:55.000 --> 01:03:00.400 make a decision and possibly make Willo make a decision. Uh on what the 762 01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:06.599 heck is going on with that little probably effected group that they've had they have 763 01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:10.880 going on, and I think that story wise, this is going to be 764 01:03:10.920 --> 01:03:15.519 interesting. Yeah, Rio is I said this before and I'll say it to 765 01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:20.840 say it again. There's not many wrestlers smarter than Riho. As far as 766 01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:23.159 Hike goes, there's only I mean, believe it or not, Abadon, 767 01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:31.880 Gira Hogan. They're all they're both shorter than Rio. Rio is taller. 768 01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:37.360 Of course, Rio weighs like one hundred pounds and they're a little bit heavier, 769 01:03:37.440 --> 01:03:38.800 so they got a little bit of size on even the other shorter. 770 01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:46.880 But the problem is is again is that Riho is the consummate babyface and she's 771 01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:54.079 one that you can't help but the cheer for. And seeing Rio be the 772 01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:59.400 victim of a stokey, stokely hat the way sneak attack, I guess is 773 01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:02.639 the best way of it is uh not going to go over really well with 774 01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:06.679 the crowd, and just see I just want to see how it goes over 775 01:04:06.719 --> 01:04:12.920 with Statlander and with Willow, and I think that's what to me, I 776 01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:16.679 think that's where this match should be concentrated on. Are we going to see 777 01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:29.920 a turn or a turn from Statlander ward Stokely or away from Stokely Waite and 778 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:38.800 simple m mm hmm. I seriously, but when you think about it, 779 01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:42.559 who is the biggest babyface in the a W women's division. I can't think 780 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:46.639 of anybody bigger than Riho. Riho's the biggest. There's nobody else that's even 781 01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:51.039 close. I mean, I mean, I guess, I guess you say 782 01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:57.800 with her, if you base it off of the fans, Willow is pretty 783 01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:03.239 close because she's she like MK said earlier, she's got that bubbly personality and 784 01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:06.360 that's her whole character that she's you know, they try to build her to 785 01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:11.639 be like that, but like you said, there's she's had huge moments they 786 01:05:11.960 --> 01:05:14.760 you know, it's just one of those things. And Riho is just Rio. 787 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:26.360 I mean years, I'll fantasy book this that if Statlander turns to the 788 01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:32.000 dark side, meaning the Stokely Hathaway side, you know, and brings what 789 01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:39.960 if what if Statlander and Willow just decide let's do it. I mean, 790 01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:42.679 we just saw, like I don't know if you guys saw it, but 791 01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:49.199 on on Twitter ext there was a multi photograph photo shoot with Willow, Statlander 792 01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:54.840 and Stokely Hathaway. They did this whole thing. Why would they do that. 793 01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.639 But they're breaking up, you know, if they're bringing so to me, 794 01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:00.199 it seems like what they're going to do guard they are going to be 795 01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:04.000 a one big, happy family and this is my fantasy booking, and that 796 01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:10.559 they are going to pummel as a group, meaning Willow and Statlener. I 797 01:06:10.599 --> 01:06:16.840 think they're going to go after after ReHO become full heel and ReHO spent some 798 01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:25.480 time in TJPW, and that would be the perfect opportunity for the magic Girl 799 01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:32.239 Yukaza Kazaki to come out and help out, help out Rio to fed the 800 01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:38.480 off. Statlander and Willow did not her contract with AW run out though. 801 01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:45.679 No. She about two or three weeks ago, she was removed from the 802 01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:51.679 AW roster for about ten minutes and then she was put right back on. 803 01:06:53.840 --> 01:06:58.679 Okay, I thought I'd saw something about how she was removed from the roster 804 01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:00.480 page, but I wasn't sure. Yeah, she was removed, and it 805 01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:03.840 was like a mistake or something because they put it right back up. But 806 01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:08.960 in that time that she was removed and it was like maybe a half hour 807 01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:13.159 at best, I mean, people get caught on and then she was put 808 01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:15.639 right back up and nothing was ever said of it. You know, it's 809 01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:18.920 probably just a clerical error or something like that. But yeah, so Yukaza 810 01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:25.480 Kazaki is signed to AW and I think this would be a perfect opportunity for 811 01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:29.480 her to get in here. And hey, like I said, you know, 812 01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:35.320 if we're gonna do women's tag tournament or have women's tag title, y 813 01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:42.760 Kazakazaki in Rejo makes perfect sense to me, and that would be a hell 814 01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:46.840 of a team good board, you know. So, I mean, that's 815 01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:51.960 that's that's that. So look, I guess I'm gonna wrap this up, 816 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:58.159 you know, Sutton and MK and net. As always, I appreciate you 817 01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:03.000 very much. Uh. I hope that the listeners have enjoyed this little banter 818 01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:09.719 that we had going on. So we'll be back tomorrow night, right after 819 01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:15.439 Dynamite and Record, I'll lea talk at our good buddy and my co host 820 01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:20.439 will finally be back. He's only been gone for two weeks, but lord 821 01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:25.239 do we miss him. Alex can't wait to have you back, man. 822 01:08:25.319 --> 01:08:30.119 I mean, I was really hoping you can find your way to get here 823 01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:34.800 tonight, but unfortunately he just couldn't make it. But he did say he 824 01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:40.840 is going to be here tomorrow night. But he's going to miss Big Business 825 01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:45.239 next week, and then he's going to miss the week after that because he's 826 01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:47.880 actually going to be at the show in Toronto, so we'll be getting on 827 01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:53.840 the spot reports from him, but he won't be on the podcast. It's 828 01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:59.920 a very depressing time for me because Alex is superb and he's actually not met 829 01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:03.800 some of the people that are in the podcast tonight. So so you know, 830 01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:11.039 hopefully tomorrow night he'll be here and you'll be able to baskin his glory 831 01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:15.039 because he is the aw fat ub Keith Lee and I'm not calling and that's 832 01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:18.159 not something about his size. I'm just saying we just need to basket his 833 01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:28.039 glory anyway for Ignition and aw fan Hub and Net and m K and Sutton. 834 01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:32.840 This is Kelson. Good night, everybody night, good night,