WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:10.000 A passionate instigator and dynamic problem solver. Doctor Kevin ross Emery, the host 2 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:14.039 of the Doctor Kevin Radio Show. We'll be taking you outside the box, 3 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:19.120 behind the curtain and identifying the load of bs we are fed every day. 4 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:27.280 And now Doctor Kevin. Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to the 5 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:33.000 Doctor Kevin Show here on Home Times, where we're changing the world wait for 6 00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:39.240 it, one oh at a time. I'd like to remind all of our 7 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:46.799 listeners that we are a live call in show and you can call in and 8 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:52.640 become part of the conversation, ask questions, share thoughts. The number you 9 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:56.359 would call is two O two five seven H seven O five seven O. 10 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:00.679 God, that's two O two five seven H seven H seven. And the 11 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:07.280 only thing we ever ask is that you're respectful or we do have a hang 12 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:12.239 up button. It's not one of those shows. So this week on the 13 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:18.079 Doctor Kevin Show, I'm going to call him. I'm going to refer to 14 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:25.359 him as a young man. We have Gordon Phillips. Gordon is seventy seven 15 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:33.200 years young and has reached that age without any kind of health issues, on 16 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:38.359 no kinds of medication. I'm functioning in the world like he's more like in 17 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:45.799 his fifties, the fifties that happened just before everything falls apart. We've been 18 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:52.959 invited Gordon to join us this week because in that seventy seven years he has 19 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.840 had a plus or of experience and opportunities, but also some insights and guidance 20 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:00.680 in some wisdom. And I always say the proof is in the pudding, 21 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:08.439 and a serving of Gordon pudding I thought was just what my listeners needed this 22 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:15.919 week. Gordon, welcome, Well, thank you sir. That was That 23 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.240 was a great, great inter I appreciate it. But I have to point 24 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:23.080 out to your listeners that I attributed all to my longevity and youth to all 25 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:30.759 the drugs I took back during the Summer of Love. Ah, I'm only 26 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:31.919 kidd and I never did drugs, so it was probably the only hippie who 27 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:36.639 didn't, actually was I was the oddball in the community. I kind of 28 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:39.280 liked my state of consciousness and didn't want to alter it, but everybody around 29 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:43.400 me was pretty pretty flipped out, That's that's for sure, back on those 30 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:51.439 days. You know, I find that very interesting because I have through the 31 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:55.879 years, you know, led people on journeys and fission quests, and stuff 32 00:02:55.919 --> 00:03:00.919 like this, and you know, quite often there know people want to have 33 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:06.120 hallucinogenics or something involved as part of the process to let go. And I, 34 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:09.280 you know, and I don't say that I oppose that. I think 35 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:14.960 everybody should have the right to choose what they want to do with their body. 36 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:23.319 And it's really nobody else's damn business. You know. I tried to 37 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:28.879 I've always tried to encourage my students along the way that says I can have 38 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:36.479 a better high off of drugs or hallucigenus of any kind then you will ever 39 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:39.879 have on them. Oh, I hear that completely, totally. Yeah, 40 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:46.240 I've been meditating. I was initiated into transcendental meditation in nineteen seventy one, 41 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:50.199 and I've been I've been meditating, not consistently, but well fairly consistently, 42 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:54.360 not every single day all these years since. And I've experienced moments of consciousness 43 00:03:54.919 --> 00:04:01.240 and awareness that we're astonishing, just me alone in a room meditating. Yeah. 44 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:08.360 Yeah, so I hear you completely well. And you know how from 45 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:15.240 how I look at the world, we can be physically alone in the room, 46 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:19.160 but we're never alone, no, no, So we live, we 47 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:24.560 live in a universal field of consciousness that I receive on the Gordon channel and 48 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:28.079 you receive on the Kevin channel. Right, so we're all on the same 49 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.639 channel, so to speak. But you're never alone. And when everything's connected 50 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:36.000 and you're an eternal being, how could you ever be truly alone? Yeah, 51 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:44.839 you know, absolutely, And it is about allowing yourself to get rid 52 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:50.639 of that that's between you and the everything you're a part of, the one 53 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:56.399 million things you mean between you. Yeah, all the problems and all the 54 00:04:56.439 --> 00:05:00.240 tapes running in your head. And you know, like the Smothers memb audience 55 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:04.160 was too young to remember. The Smothers Brothers used to be a kind of 56 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:08.199 a fun remember, yeah, I one of them always said Mom loved you 57 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:11.600 best. It was really a funny line. But we all, we all 58 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:16.120 have those tapes running in our heads of inadequacy and fear and the inability to 59 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:19.319 represent ourselves well in the world and all these you know, they call it 60 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:21.839 the monkey mind. You know, you go to meditate and all these thoughts 61 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:26.279 come rushing in of what you didn't do yesterday and what you've got to do 62 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:30.079 tomorrow. And it's so easy to let life get in the way of being 63 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:33.240 alive. If you want to put it that way. Yeah, I just 64 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:41.160 throw the monkey and banana and it goes away. Yeah, and that's just 65 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:44.480 don't step on the peel when he's done. That's all right, Yeah, 66 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.639 don't step on the peel on the way out the door. Yeah, that's 67 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:56.160 funny. So in our first segment, you know, and I usually oftentimes 68 00:05:56.959 --> 00:05:59.920 I've been not doing it quite as consistently as I used to do that. 69 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.519 Again, I've been I've had my show for almost eighteen years, so I'm 70 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:10.079 not going to always be the bastion of consistency. Is a hot topic, 71 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:15.639 but you kind of invited me to throw out in our exchange before you came 72 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:20.560 on air. Just so sometimes my listeners know that I know somebody in advance, 73 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:25.199 or that I've never met some not that it makes any difference. Gordon, 74 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:29.199 I have never met. We exchanged a couple of emails when he agreed 75 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:33.439 to be on the show, but he said, you know what about this 76 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:39.680 for a hot topic, and I'm going to throw it to let Gordon open 77 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:43.480 up the hot topic segment. For those of you who may be new listeners 78 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:46.720 on The Doctor Kevin Show, the hot topic is either something that warms the 79 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:54.800 cockles of my heart burns my yeah. Yeah, but yes, no, 80 00:06:55.000 --> 00:07:00.920 sorry, you're from parts. You're gluteus maximus. Yes, and some days 81 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:05.600 it's a little more maximust than others. Those days are minimus. We call 82 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:12.639 those minimus days. Yeah, but go ahead. Yeah, So share your 83 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:16.639 hot topic. Well, the hot topic that I came on ostensibly I love 84 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:20.600 that word to talk about was was health and wellness related. But the other 85 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:25.439 thing that I've been doing for thirty years is I'm a financial and small business 86 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:29.959 financial risk management consultant. You might say, well, what the heck do 87 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:31.800 those two things have to do with each other? But I guess I would 88 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:36.319 point out that the world's wealthiest billionaires on their deathbeds would probably give every dime 89 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:41.959 if they could live in really good health and energy for another, you know, 90 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:46.319 ten or twenty years. So without health and wellness, you know, 91 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:48.279 money is kind of takes us back seat, at least it does in my 92 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:51.759 world. But those are the connections anyway for me. So which would you 93 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:56.720 like me to talk about first? Well, I'm actually going to jump right 94 00:07:56.759 --> 00:08:00.120 on what you said because we do a lot of free wheel in here the 95 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:05.279 Doctor Kevin Show, which is I was last week week before I don't know. 96 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:11.720 Sometime in the recent past, I was in Chicago and I went to 97 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:20.959 the Architectural and Science Museum and they had this thing where they had a mental 98 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:24.240 emotional section for mental and emotional health, and they had a physical health section. 99 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:26.959 It's really good. He ever, in Chicago, I'd recommend going. 100 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:37.840 But it brought the stats out that once somebody is really making enough money for 101 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:43.039 all their basic needs and they don't have to worry at about money, that 102 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:50.799 the increased quality of life at a max, according to their statistical research, 103 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:58.440 is seven percent. You have a seven percent range of which you have a 104 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:03.679 better quality of life, no matter how feely wealthy you've got. And when 105 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:05.759 you said that, it made me think, what do you think about that? 106 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.919 You think that that's a good statistic? You think that's correct? Yeah, 107 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.000 I think it probably is correct. I think of it this way. 108 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:15.399 I suppose you make fifty thousand dollars a year, which today isn't anywhere near 109 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:18.440 what it used to be, Right, But you work for forty years and 110 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.840 two million dollars comes through your hands. Right, that's just the math. 111 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:26.840 Fifty thousand times forty years of two million dollars passes through your hands, you 112 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:31.320 get to be sixty five years old, and Social Security informs is the average 113 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.879 person has less than four hundred dollars for an emergency, like if your muffler 114 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:39.679 falls off your car, and they look back over the course of their lives 115 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:45.240 and they literally cannot explain where the money went. They don't really understand where 116 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:50.120 the money went. And the truth is that it's just thousands of thousands of 117 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.039 decisions every day, little tiny decisions. You know, do I go through 118 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:56.120 Dunkin Donuts and get a coffee and muffin every day? And the way to 119 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:58.399 work? That's one hundred bucks cash every month. That's twelve hundred a year. 120 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.919 That's twelve in ten years. Is that possible? Yes, it is. 121 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:03.559 You know, as you get to the end of your life, you 122 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:07.960 can't account for all the money you went and then you're you're broke, or 123 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.759 you're relying upon the government, or you're relying upon friends, and so it's 124 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:16.000 just the incrementalism. It's the same thing with health, which we were I 125 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:18.440 said, we can talk about that tonight as well. But if you if 126 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:20.759 I was saying to a friend of mine who's a naturopath, I'd do some 127 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.600 consulting with her. She's become a friend. She's a great lady here in 128 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:26.799 New Hampshire. And I said, how many mouthfuls of food do you think 129 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.240 we take in per meal? She said last I never thought about that before. 130 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.159 I said, well, I want online and it looks like, you 131 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:35.240 know, some people are saying forty. Let's just pick that number. Forty 132 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:39.000 mouthfuls of food you eat three times a day, three hundred and sixty five 133 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:45.399 days a year. Fifty years later, you've eaten two million plus mouthfuls of 134 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:50.080 food, and every single one of those was a decision. Every single one 135 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:54.360 of those mouthfuls was a nutritional decision. If you take the premise that everything 136 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:56.759 you eat either heals you or kills you, and as the joke goes, 137 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:03.200 you dig your grave whip for the four then you make two million nutritional decisions 138 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.720 your lifetime. You get to be in really rough shape, you know, 139 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.559 health wise, when you're sixty. It's the same exact analogy as getting to 140 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.879 sixty or sixty five and looking back to the thousands of financial decisions you made, 141 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.039 most of which were pretty small. Some are big, like getting the 142 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:20.679 kids into the right school, or what house to buy or so forth. 143 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:26.399 It's the relationship with between those two spheres of people's lives are so similar and 144 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:31.720 interconnected in so many more ways than I think most people realize. Well, 145 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:35.679 you know, one of the things, Gordon, when you were talking about 146 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:41.799 you know, did they decide to stop and get a muffin and a coffee 147 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:46.120 at dunks every day for forty years? I thought, did you figure in 148 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:52.279 the cost of the number of health issues? Doing that gave them that they 149 00:11:52.320 --> 00:12:01.000 had to pay for medications they had to pay for total cost. You're totally 150 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:03.840 correct. You're destroying your cells completely. You know, the cell you got 151 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:09.919 upwards of one hundred trillion, that's one hundred thousand billion, Like we can 152 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:13.399 even get our brains wrapped around that. Every one of those cells has got 153 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.240 all these little organ elles and mitochondure, the little power supplies of your body. 154 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:20.720 Right, the health of your cell is the health of the tissue, 155 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:22.960 and the health of the tissues the health of your organ systems. And if 156 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:28.919 you poison them every day when you're out your life, you don't give them 157 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.360 what they need, and they do their best. They struggle on, struggle 158 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:35.480 on. You get into your forties fifties, your immune system starts to get 159 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.120 compromised, the inflammation starts to set in. So I was going to share 160 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:43.200 with you during one of these segments an essay that I wrote once called dead 161 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:48.360 Bacteria Don't Lie. So when we have time, I'll get into that way. 162 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:56.279 I thought you'd find that fun. I absolutely, I'm gonna let you 163 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:00.320 read it in a second. I just want to make a comment on something 164 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:01.679 you said, because you've given me so much to work here with. Gordon 165 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.360 A sorry, sorry, I should. I shouldn't have. I should I 166 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:11.000 shouldn't have gone through Dunks for a coffee right before we spoke. Now, 167 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:15.840 no, I think it's great. I just want people to know that that 168 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:24.720 spoonful of food that make that you make, that choice of that negatively impacts 169 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:30.240 yourselves in your health, is also that spoonful of life, the people you 170 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.799 surround yourself with, the things you put up. It's not just did you 171 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:37.679 work forty years? Did you work for forty years or something you loved? 172 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.799 Did you work at forty years or something that that made you get excited to 173 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:45.080 get out of bed, that made you happy, that that got all of 174 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:50.000 those great chemical reactions that happened in a joyful, happy life which strengthens your 175 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:58.039 immune system and strengthened your cells. And you know, so it's not even 176 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:01.879 the spoonfuls of food. It's what, how many spoonfuls of stuff did your 177 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:07.720 swallow that it really shouldn't have had to swallow. Oh no, you can 178 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:11.200 poison your soul. You can poison your spirit, You can poison your body. 179 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:16.519 You surround yourself with negative people. Their battery drainers. They drain your 180 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:20.279 battery every day, and you're constantly trying to recharge yourself. You know, 181 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:24.360 the old saying, the old chestnut. You know, you are the sum 182 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.240 of your five closest friends. You know, if you'll you'll meet the way 183 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.840 they do. You'll share the same humor. You probably have the same kinds 184 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.519 of job, same kind of income, same belief systems. Maybe you vote 185 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:37.919 for the same political candidates, go over the same church. You know, 186 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:41.240 so you can change all that, You can change your sphere of influence. 187 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:46.559 It's a conscious choice. But now there are there are two of the deadly 188 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:52.159 sins right there. You just talked about politics and churches, but we won't 189 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:56.759 go into those. We're already running behind and all the stuff we want to 190 00:14:56.799 --> 00:15:03.879 cover. Come on, if there's always can't you go ahead, Gordon? 191 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:07.200 Trust me, I have a feeling we're going to have you back. Ah, 192 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:13.720 well that's my pleasure, sir. So why don't you go ahead and 193 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:20.960 share your essay so we don't run into a million and one other nuts as 194 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:26.440 the squirrels we are, and forget to let that happen. So why don't 195 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:30.799 you go ahead and share the Oh sure, I'm not going to actually read 196 00:15:30.799 --> 00:15:33.000 it. We'll take you. I'll just synopsize it for the listeners. Okay, 197 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:37.240 So here here it is. So when you walk right from warning everybody, 198 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:41.360 this is the Stephen King, you know, uneasy stomach warning. You 199 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:43.879 may want to tune out right now, just for two or three minutes. 200 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:50.679 So you walk past the graveyard, do you dare? Don't need to hear 201 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:54.399 this? Got ahead, Stephen, I beg your pardon. So you go 202 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:58.080 past the graveyard, and you see hundreds and hundreds of tombstones, you know, 203 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:02.200 some from two hundred years ago, some from last week. But a 204 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:07.159 lot of those people have been there a long time, right, and they 205 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:12.399 were buried in sealed caskets inside steel vaults, right, But you dig them 206 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:17.679 up a hundred years later, what would you expect to see realistically skull and 207 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:22.759 bones. Basically, right, where did they go? Where'd they go? 208 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:25.840 They were in a sealed casket. Where did they go? Well, they 209 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:32.240 were obviously decomposed, right by what? So that's the question I'll put it. 210 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:36.159 I'll put it to you. Do you know? Teasing you? What 211 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:47.559 happened to their bodies? I'll answer, I'm they were digested by their own 212 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:52.080 microbes, the ones that are waiting inside each of us right this second. 213 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:59.600 We are walking around as walking talking buffet tables all the all the we have 214 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:04.880 about fifty times as many bacteria in our bodies as we do bacterial DNA in 215 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:11.240 our bodies as we do our own DNA. And when you eliminate on the 216 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:15.960 toilet number two, I'll be as polite as I can here, A huge 217 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:21.799 percentage of that is dead bacteria. So these organisms live inside you your entire 218 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:25.519 life. They live synergistically inside your body, your entire life. And as 219 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:30.519 you get older, and as your tissue becomes acidic, which is natural with 220 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:34.720 aging, and as you develop what's called apoxia, which is less oxygen than 221 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:41.960 ideal, and your immune system can't cope, your terrain gradually becomes more and 222 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:47.160 more polluted. It's the beginning of inflammation. And the day that you assume 223 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:52.920 room temperature, all those little guys just go to town. And so your 224 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:56.759 job is to hold them off for as long as possible. So there's that's 225 00:17:56.799 --> 00:18:02.240 the Stephen King punchline. How do we hold them off as long as possible? 226 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:07.279 Yeah? So weird? Was that weird enough for you? Oh? 227 00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:11.079 I think that that's great. I mean, what I do want to say 228 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:18.599 is that the body's buried in the last twenty or thirty years actually will survive 229 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:26.480 much longer because they have such a natural higher level of formaldehyde that they don't 230 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.799 need to embalm them as much, and they're probably a little bit more microbe 231 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:34.599 resistance because we have toxified ourselves so much. That's all I was thinking. 232 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:38.240 Oh, sure, did you know that that's fun that's funny. Do you 233 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:42.759 know the endpoint of the metabolic breakdown of splendor? You know that that sugar 234 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:48.880 substitute is formaldehyde? Yeah, So you pick you pickle yourself every time you 235 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:52.640 put every time you put some of that sweetener into into your cup of coffee, 236 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.759 You're going to going back to the to the Dunkin Donuts meme once again. 237 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:03.279 So your job really is to understand and how to prevent inflammation from developing 238 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:08.359 in your cells while you're healthy. That says once you recognize that inflammation is 239 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:14.960 the basis of almost all disease. Almost all diseases inflammatory in its early stages, 240 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:18.200 and it all comes down to the health of the cell. The voltage 241 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:22.079 of the cell drops as you age, so different compounds can't move through osmosis 242 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.240 through the cell wall. Your blood becomes sluggish and slows down. There's a 243 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:30.720 natural pulse. Here's something really interesting for everybody to know. We were taught 244 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:34.359 in school that when your heart beats, it pumps blood through your body. 245 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:38.599 I've sent my whole life thinking that, and that's just absolutely not true. 246 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:44.680 Your heart pumps blood through the main veins, venules, arteries, they're called 247 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:48.480 arterials. But if you took all the capillaries in your body and line them 248 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.119 up end to end, they would go around the Earth at the equator two 249 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:56.440 and a half times, which is staggering when you think about what the vascular 250 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.519 system inside the body looks like. So everyone, those hundred trillion cells has 251 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:04.319 to be serviced by red blood cells. How do they get into the cells. 252 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:07.680 If your heart would have to pump at a thousand pounds per square inch 253 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.359 to get that blood into that entire structure, that's not the way it works. 254 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:15.680 The way those blood cells travel down the capillaries is an electric It's an 255 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:22.960 electromagnetic pulse that the body creates. It's called vasomotion vaso vasomotion. So you're 256 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:29.440 this natural electromagnetic pulse squeezes your red blood cells into their end targets, which 257 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:32.440 is every cell in your body. But by the time you're in your sixties 258 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:37.319 or seventies, that response has dropped by as much as ninety percent. So 259 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:41.799 I know there's I'm not here to promote. I'm just saying there's a device 260 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:45.319 that I use at home that helps reconstitute that pulse very naturally to like when 261 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.240 you're a teenager. Again, So when you get to be an old coot 262 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.240 like me and you're looking as you're staring at eighty years old, how do 263 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:56.440 you have all the energy and the wellness that I'm in better health than I 264 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:59.839 was when I was forty. Honestly, it sounds like an exaggeration people to 265 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:02.759 typically believe you, but you know, if you take the metrics, the 266 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:06.640 blood tests blood sugar and your blood pressure. I've never been on a single 267 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:11.319 medication my entire life. All my maternal grandparents, almost every one of them 268 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:14.920 had died by the time they reached my age of cancer or heart disease. 269 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:18.599 So it's not like I was born with some kind of superior DNA. But 270 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:23.319 when you learn these simple modalities that give yourselves what they need to stay healthy 271 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:27.640 and get the toxins out of your body, it just changes the game completely. 272 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.720 And this isn't something I do for a living. My main area is 273 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:37.200 in financial consulting. But I'm so enthusiastic about this because so many people are 274 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:41.640 just walking around like the walking wounded these days, and you just you feel 275 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:44.839 compelled to want to share, you know, just your conscience compels you to 276 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:48.240 want to share what you can to help people because you know that it works. 277 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:56.359 So there you go. Well, and so there's a couple of different 278 00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:00.400 things I want to say here. So the first thing is what over this? 279 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:06.160 So so I'm asking you what is the name of this device that recharges 280 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:11.799 the electromagnetic field? Is how I understood you said? Did I catch that 281 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:14.200 correctly? No? You know, you got it pretty much right. It's 282 00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:22.799 called pulse electromagnetic field therapy pe m F pulse the electromagnetic frequency. I guess 283 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:25.319 what it is. There's a bunch of companies that make them. There's one 284 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:27.920 company in particular that's a German company called Beamer B E M E R. 285 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.079 And what it's a math. It's a math that you lay on eight minutes 286 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:37.319 in the morning and eight minutes in the evening. And it's beyond non invasive. 287 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:38.680 You could fall asleep while you're laying on it. You could meditate, 288 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.799 read a book, whatever. You just lay on the math and it naturally 289 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:48.759 recreates that natural electromagnetic pulse in the body that gets your red blood cells moving. 290 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:52.200 And the before and after is insane. If you take a blood, 291 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.720 a little pinprick of blood from your finger, and you put it on a 292 00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:57.920 microscope slide and you look at your blood like they call them dark field or 293 00:22:59.000 --> 00:23:03.680 face contrast microscopes at a lot of naturopath offices have them. You actually see 294 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:06.720 your fresh blood right under the under the eyepiece the microscope, all little blood 295 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:08.960 cells wiggling around. And what you'll what you'll see, what you'll see with 296 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:15.440 most people today is very sluggish, very poor looking blood where the outside of 297 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:19.279 the blood cell almost looks serrated like a bottle cap, like a beer bottle 298 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:23.359 cap, and they're they're all they're all stacked up like poker chips. That's 299 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:29.279 called Rulo syndrome. They've lost a lot of their natural electromagnetic repulsions, so 300 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:32.920 they're not keeping each other apart, so they can move around freely, and 301 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:36.000 they and the insides are dark. They've lost a lot of the hemoglobe, 302 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:37.559 and so they don't look nice, that nice, cherry plump red that they're 303 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:42.119 supposed to look. So then you get on the beamer for to eight minutes 304 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.720 and you take another pin trick of blood, same person, same blood, 305 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:51.359 and they're just rushing around, moving around, looking really great. So I 306 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:52.799 mean, it's just the proof is right there. Now, there's several other 307 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:57.160 things that I do that are not that technology that create the same effect on 308 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.680 the blood as a number of things you can do to get your circulation improved. 309 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:06.480 But that's just something that you know, that's that's what I do. 310 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:18.559 So now I'm gonna if you haven't figured out I'm fairly blunt. So if 311 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:29.440 so, if you want to at when the show is over or when we're 312 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:36.480 on break. If you have a link to this, oh sure, if 313 00:24:36.519 --> 00:24:40.039 you want us post it on the comments on the Doctor Kevin Show on the 314 00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:44.039 Facebook page. Okay, sure, I'd be happy to. Yeah, but 315 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:47.000 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not a Beamer distributor, Kevin. I 316 00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:48.599 used to be, but I'm not. I'm no longer a Beamer distributor. 317 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:51.880 I mean, I don't. I never went around with a business card saying 318 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:55.160 I'm your Beamer guy. When I've brought these things into my life, I 319 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:56.799 just shared them with everybody I knew and said, man, you got to 320 00:24:56.839 --> 00:25:02.079 get one of these. It's I use another small device that increases the cell 321 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:04.920 voltage. I use a patch I put on my skin every day that helps 322 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:08.039 stimulate your stems, your stem cells. These are all really simple things. 323 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:11.359 I could put a dozen links. I don't want to do that. I'm 324 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:15.160 not here to promote all of this stuff. There is one website I would 325 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.599 like to before the show's over to steer people too, because I think the 326 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.799 most affordable thing that people can do to help themselves the most is to learn 327 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:29.039 about this stem cell activation patch. That technology is just just insane. If 328 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:33.200 we have time to talk about it believe we have time to talk about whatever 329 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:38.960 I decide. So you see how it rolls, right, You've got a 330 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:44.519 lot stuff prepared, and then I'm like, yeah, I'm glad you're prepared. 331 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:48.240 Let me just throw it all out. Yeah, pretty much, but 332 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:56.279 I'm okay, let's go over with it. So, you know, in 333 00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:02.599 my primary practice, I don't know if you did any research on like my 334 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:04.759 show or who I am when you accepted it. Some people do, some 335 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:08.720 people don't care. I had, I had the FBI run a deep background 336 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:15.200 check on you became up positive. I thought I felt somebody behind me messing 337 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:22.720 where they shouldn't be. No, that was the practice scope. But one 338 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:30.400 of the things that I seriously you know, part of my practice, which 339 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.440 I've had for thirty three years now is I work as a medical intuitive, 340 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:41.000 and so I'm always looking to check out alternatives that I might not have heard 341 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:47.519 of, both for myself and if they feel appropriate and I get the intuitive 342 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:51.400 hit, it would be good for them that I am always comfortable recommending people 343 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:56.000 check things out. If I get yeah, this would help sure. So 344 00:26:56.640 --> 00:27:03.680 I would love to hear more about this stem cell thing and put that link 345 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:11.640 on the Facebook page. I hear the incoming music. 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I get up every 373 00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:59.680 day and I get to be me and it doesn't get me better than that. 374 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:06.680 And I can tell when I have met a kindred spirit as in you. 375 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:14.839 So we brought going on to give us some insight or wisdoms that may 376 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:18.799 help those of you that are dealing with health issues, or maybe are not 377 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.799 old growing old as gracefully as they would like, or maybe not growing old 378 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.799 gracefully at all, or maybe worried about they're not even getting at a chose 379 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:33.759 to grow old. But we've been been pig ponging around as we always do 380 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.759 on the Dark Kevin Show, and so tell me a little bit more. 381 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:42.720 I'm very fascinated themselves. Stuff is fascinated. I do want to say to 382 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:49.200 my listeners that I have heard of the Beamer before, and I knew some 383 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:56.759 people that were doing stuff with the Beamer actually to live in Chicago, but 384 00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:03.039 I didn't see them this last time I was there, and you know, 385 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:06.079 I knew they were very enthused. It didn't call me at the time, 386 00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:10.799 But when you talked about it today, it felt like today was the day 387 00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:12.799 when I went, no, might want to know more about this. I 388 00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:18.559 don't know why, because it's not new. It's not a new technology to 389 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:23.759 me, but now seem to be the time that you struck check this out 390 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:29.039 better? Yeah, would be you circle back and get in touch. The 391 00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.559 only downside the Beamers is in the range of five thousand dollars. So it's 392 00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:37.359 like a lifetime dynasty family purchase. And a lot of people just their their 393 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.480 eye face turns white when you tell them the price. But as I like 394 00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.319 to joke, well you've got you know, you've got a schemobile, You've 395 00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:48.119 got an ATV riding lawnmower, plasma TV and a summer home. You know, 396 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.680 maybe you need to sell some of that stuff and buy some of the 397 00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:55.839 things that will keep you alive and in good health longer. But the heely 398 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:59.599 some of these technologies are more expensive, but some of them are very affordable. 399 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.960 So if I may, I'll tell you about the stem cell patch because 400 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:07.279 it's just it's it's three dollars a day. You want to talk price and 401 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:12.799 the and the effects. Yeah, so well, I learned about this two 402 00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:15.519 years ago from a nurse who's a friend of mine. Her name is Sandra. 403 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.000 She lives down in the South and she's got she's got a real twang. 404 00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.079 I love talking with her on the phone. Matter of fact, she's 405 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:23.240 the one who told me about Beamers. She called one day and said, 406 00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:28.599 did I will tell you about beamer And I said what she said? I 407 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.559 thought she meant the car you know. But she also introduced me to the 408 00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:37.240 So there's a company called life Wave and the founder, David Schmidt, the 409 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:42.039 CEO and founder, when he was a much young he's in his early fifties. 410 00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.960 I think about twenties or more. Years ago. He had a contract 411 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:51.640 with the US Navy under some kind of secrecy provision. They were trying to 412 00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.880 develop technology for sub mariners who would go down in these baths scalps. They'd 413 00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:58.279 be down, you know, fifteen thousand feet, they'd be down there for 414 00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.680 three days straight, and they had to stay awake and alert the entire time, 415 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.839 and they were using emphetamines and god knows what else to try to keep 416 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.559 him. And so he was working on light therapy. He was working on 417 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.799 technology would allow the body to stimulate itself naturally. And what he did is 418 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:19.240 such a breakthrough. This has got to be, i don't know, twenty 419 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.680 thirty years ahead of what you'll ever see in a doctor's office. So what 420 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:28.119 he did is he did research on peptides. One of the peptides is called 421 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:34.200 ghk cus. It's a complex molecule based around a copper atom. That peptide 422 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:38.039 up regulates over four thousand genes in the human body, and every one of 423 00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:44.119 those genes has to do with either rebuilding tissue, repairing tissue, or rejuvenating 424 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.160 tissue. What he did is he developed a patch like a little tiny round 425 00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:51.359 band aid. It doesn't have any product on it. It's called non transdermal. 426 00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.559 There's nothing on it that actually goes into the skin. It contains nano 427 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:59.799 sized crystals. A nano is like one billionth of them of a meter, 428 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.440 and the crystals are composed of different organic substances. That's where the patent comes 429 00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.199 in. He's got over one hundred international patterns. But every day, every 430 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.159 minute of every day, your body is giving off light and say, what 431 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:14.239 do you say, I can't see You're not going in the dark, Well, 432 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.400 yeah you are. If I were looking at you and infrared. Your 433 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:21.880 body is emitting infrared radiation all the time. It's just below the human visible 434 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.880 wavelength, so we can't see it. So what this patch does is it 435 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:32.360 reflects back into your skin a subset of that infrared radiation, which then stimulates 436 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:39.000 nerve endings on your skin, which then stimulate the ghkcu peptide, which then 437 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:45.679 stimulates your stem cells. So you get this phenomenal response of stem cell production 438 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:51.039 and activity when you're What I've read from their literature is by the time you're 439 00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:54.360 thirty five years old, your body's production of stem cells is already down by 440 00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:58.280 fifty percent. I was surprised. I thought it would be much older. 441 00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:00.840 By the time you're my age is all most non existent. So you put 442 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.960 on this patch for twelve hours at a time, it goes on a couple 443 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.280 of designated places on your body, and you take it off twelve hours later. 444 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.360 I mean that's literally all you do. It takes you ten seconds, 445 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:15.400 twice a day, and the results are stunning, absolutely stunning. Immediately. 446 00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:21.000 Your stem cells are those intelligent, undifferentiated cells that your body sends to wherever 447 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.880 repair needs to be done. So if you're someone who's got problems, you've 448 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.679 got arthritis, or you've got rumor twitter arthritis, you've got any kind of 449 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.199 inflammatory problem, you're probably going to see a result. I've seen people right 450 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:35.840 before my eyes have a response in less than a few minutes. But if 451 00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.280 you're in reasonably good health, the effect will be taking place inside you. 452 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.519 The rebuilding will be taking place inside you, and you won't necessarily see it. 453 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:45.599 So when I first heard about this, it sounded just a little over 454 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.559 the top, even for me, and I'm usually pretty open minded. So 455 00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.800 my attitude was, these companies all tend to promote themselves. They always put 456 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.559 their best foot forward, you know, naturally, I want to know what 457 00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:01.880 real people say. So I found a telegram chance that had testimonials that people 458 00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:05.760 have been putting on there for two years and just every day, regular people. 459 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.719 They had nothing to sell, nothing can promote, just coming on looking 460 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:12.239 at the camera and telling their story. And after I'd seen ten or twenty 461 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.000 of them, I was like, you got to be kidding me. This 462 00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:20.840 is unbelievable. It really is. It's just astonishing the health benefits that are 463 00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.360 being corrected by this. So I started using these a year ago and I 464 00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:28.079 didn't have any complaints. I wasn't looking for any miraculous recovery or anything. 465 00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:32.000 The first thing I noticed within one week, I've always cut my fingernails about 466 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:36.159 every three days my life. In my life, I have to cut them 467 00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:38.880 almost every day. They just get a little too uncomfortably long. I was 468 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.760 a professional musician years ago, and I played the piano every day. Of 469 00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.800 course, we type on keyboards, and when your fingernails get a little too 470 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:47.159 long. You notice it, and I would I would say, well, 471 00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.280 wow, but if you if you go, there's a website I can I 472 00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:53.400 can give the listeners that they're interested in going there. But at the bottom 473 00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:58.199 of the site, this is the proof positive. You see people and mostly 474 00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.280 and we're all vain. Everybody's a little bit vain about their appearance, especially 475 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.039 as you age. But maybe if this doesn't sound too sexist, maybe women 476 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:07.960 are a little bit more vain. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but anyway, 477 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:12.440 all the pictures tend to be of women before and after. So you 478 00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.400 have a gal who's in her fifties or sixties, and one year later she 479 00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.079 literally looks ten years younger, And you say, well, what happened? 480 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.960 Why that happen? Because it wasn't some botox or injection or creams or ointments 481 00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:30.480 or whatever. What happened was that her tissue at the subcutaneous level, under 482 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.159 the surface of the skin is actually rebuilding. And so the crow's feet and 483 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:38.360 the wrinkles and the age spots and all that stuff gradually start fading and ironing 484 00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:45.119 themselves out. And people look truly different a year later, And everybody does, 485 00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:50.920 some less more so than others, but everybody distinctly looks improved visually, 486 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:53.360 so you have to say, well, okay, it's obviously working. If 487 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.039 you can see this effect working on the surface of your body, you know 488 00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:00.920 that it's working internally, even if you can't see what's happening inside your organs. 489 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:02.880 So I did a lot of research on this. I never signed up 490 00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.559 with these companies until I've satisfied myself that it's for real. So I went 491 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.639 on PubMed dot gov. I went on Google dot scholar. I think's Google 492 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:15.360 scholar, where there's a whole bunch of papers that have been published on this 493 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:21.199 peptide that go back decades before this company ever existed. This this has always 494 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.400 been known to be true, but no one ever found a unique way to 495 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:28.159 naturally stimulate it. So here you have your own light from your own body, 496 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.800 healing yourself. So there are no side effects, there's no possible way 497 00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:35.280 that it could harm anybody, could use it on a baby, pregnant people, 498 00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.079 anybody. It's just so anyway, that's that's my quick little brain dump 499 00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:42.719 on on that technology. But it's just it's just amazing, and it's it's 500 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.880 it's inexpensive. It's about one hundred dollars a month with shipping if you become 501 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.000 a customer, So it's like three dollars a day, and that's pretty much 502 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:54.119 within the price range of most most people. I would say, So that's 503 00:38:54.159 --> 00:39:00.320 it. Oh, well, that's not it. I got question, cannoy 504 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:07.039 me. I didn't want to keep talking. I'll tell you when that's it. 505 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.480 That's it. Okay, this a little self awareness. That's all quickly 506 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:22.159 ahead. So you put it on. You put it on. You said 507 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.559 two different places. So there are specific places you put it on that are 508 00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:31.159 supposed to be most or to the places shift if you have different health issues. 509 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.840 That there was a great, great question. No, actually, you 510 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.159 can put it on anywhere on your bottom. It works optimally on a couple 511 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:42.519 of specific acupuncture accurate pressure points. One is if you reach if you bend 512 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:45.039 over and bend your neck down, you feel across it's hope, your back 513 00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:46.800 of your neck, the very highest vertebra, that little bump you can feel 514 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.920 at the base of your neck. That's that's that's an ideal place to put 515 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.920 it on. And then another one is just two inches below your belly button. 516 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.639 So my my joke, and I don't mean to sound unkind. But 517 00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.920 there are a lot of peoples who can't find belly button, so you're but 518 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:05.880 you can always find that bump on the back, on the back of your 519 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.599 neck. And so then my friend, I've got a friend who's really I 520 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:12.599 don't say he's quite ainly retentive, but he's an engineer, and they can 521 00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:14.880 be really annoying, you know. So he said, do I have to 522 00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:16.519 put it on exactly on that spot? I said, you mean you have 523 00:40:16.599 --> 00:40:20.800 to get out like a compass. I said, no, just anywhere close 524 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:22.920 will work. Then he said you have to put it on in exactly twelve 525 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.800 hours. I said no, no, just anywhere, you know, ten, 526 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:30.119 twelve, fourteen. The idea is give your body a period of stimulation 527 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.800 and then a period of rest and stimulation. But to answer your question, 528 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.760 it's if you have a specific problem, you can put the patch on right 529 00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:43.960 next to a wound, like like post surgical recovery is nuts. You see 530 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.559 before and after pictures of someone who just has surgery and they kind of look 531 00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:51.519 like Frankenstein with those big stitches down their neck, and sixteen days later you 532 00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:57.800 can't even see where the scar was. So no, but but but Gordon, 533 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:01.639 if they were using this, they shouldn't have needed the surgery. Well, 534 00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:06.440 yeah, but they didn't know, so presumably, Kevin, presumably they 535 00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:15.639 didn't know. No, I totally agree. I totally agree. People people, 536 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.920 you know, people tend to come to these method these methodologies when they're 537 00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.480 really in trouble. That's how we humans are. You know, when they've 538 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.039 they've been to the doctor, they've gotten the shots, they've gotten the five 539 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:29.360 thousand dollars stem cell injections because they've been in such pain, maybe they've got 540 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:31.800 a tennis elbow that was you know whatever, and they've they've been on the 541 00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:36.400 steroids, and they finally they get some relief. But then thirty percent of 542 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:40.199 the time, stem cell injections stimulate an autobody response, and you have a 543 00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:45.199 much worse situation. Plus it's someone else's stem cells that are getting injected into 544 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.480 And then someone tells them, hey, why don't you go take a look 545 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.559 at this patch, And then they roll their eyes like you've got to be 546 00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.000 kidding me, how could this be real? And then they've watched twenty videos 547 00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.760 and read a couple of things and they say, okay, let me try 548 00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.239 it in the company. Has it money? I guarantees. All that kind 549 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:04.960 of stuff is the commercial side of it. But then it works and it's 550 00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.400 like, oh my goodness, you can't. You know, you're not. 551 00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:12.440 I got to tell the whole world. So it's not cool. Okay, 552 00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:22.199 No, no, I don't talking too much, So definitely put the link 553 00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.880 on the Dark Kevin Show. I always ask this question when somebody's talking about 554 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:39.440 something with neutral energy is So is this in the MLM format. Yes, 555 00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:44.519 it's a direct sales company. Yeah. The only people to explain until explain 556 00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.400 that you can't. There's no way to get to the American marketplace these days 557 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:52.840 without some form of word of mouth marketing. The drug companies will not allow 558 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:55.920 this kind of competition to ever show up on a cable TV news channel. 559 00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:02.159 And you're print advertising radios tip we paid radio commercials various prohibitive. So these 560 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:05.800 companies just take the root of hey, we're going to let the people be 561 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:08.199 our our advertising budget and if it's a good thing, they'll share it. 562 00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:12.000 So, yeah, answer your question, it is. It is a relationship 563 00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:17.239 marketing company. Okay, So I would like to put that out there. 564 00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:23.199 I have through the years belong to one or two MLMs. As we just 565 00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:35.519 used to affectionately call them because I knew whatever it was I believed in and 566 00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.280 you couldn't get it anywhere else. So I don't we don't have a problem. 567 00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:44.000 I we don't have a problem here within MLM. I want people to 568 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:49.000 know it before they click the link. Totally agree. Yeah, yep, 569 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:53.480 and I think that. So this leads me to another question, which is, 570 00:43:54.719 --> 00:44:02.480 if I got off this phone, I'll click the length and I signed 571 00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:08.440 up, what is my monthly minimum that I have to commit to? Because 572 00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:14.480 this is the sticking point for people with mL on sometimes and sit out. 573 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.199 There was a whole bunch of companies that really screwed people over and I'm not 574 00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:23.480 accusing this one of doing it. And again I've been involved with ethical MLMs 575 00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:27.239 and they do exist. But it's like, oh, you have but you 576 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.000 have to buy so much product and you have to you know, like they 577 00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:34.400 force you to sell it, and not everybody wants to sell. Some people 578 00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:38.320 just want to get Can you explain a little of that? Yeah, I 579 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:43.159 agree with you one hundred percent. When I first understood this industry, the 580 00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.440 way it was explained to me was rather than the standard distribution model where you've 581 00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:51.440 got a manufacturer who makes wheelbarrows, and they get shipped to a regional distribution 582 00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.079 center at a markup, and then that guy ships them to the local hardware 583 00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:58.000 store to markup, and then he marks them up and puts them out for 584 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:02.760 sale and then marks them down twenty five. Everybody somewhere along the line is 585 00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:07.280 getting paid, which they should. That's everything we own in our life was 586 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.199 sold to us by somebody. So sales isn't a dirty word. It's just 587 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:14.119 the function of the way the world works. So network marketing just allows the 588 00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:21.119 individual to be in that distribution channel and they're basically compensating you for sharing the 589 00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:22.800 word. And it has to be something you believe and it has to be 590 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.840 ethical. But the old model is, oh my god, people pull the 591 00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.519 shades down they see you coming up the front walk where you're going to try 592 00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:31.800 to sell them your dish, a charge in your laundry. So even if 593 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:36.480 they're great products, but if you really, if your heart is really in 594 00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.760 this, and you're sharing information, it's not sales. It's like a dog 595 00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:43.960 could walk up to you with a CD in its mouth with everything you need 596 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:45.639 to know about a product on it, and you didn't feel like the dog 597 00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:51.400 sold you anything. So the idea is I share information and people are welcome 598 00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:54.360 to internalize it. If it clicks, they have to make a buying decision. 599 00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:57.920 You can't force anybody to buy anything. They have to want to bring 600 00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:01.559 it into their lives. And that's been the spirit behind which I've ever shared 601 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.880 any of this kind of stuff. I don't walk around with a business card 602 00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.960 building any of these businesses. And I didn't even know you existed until a 603 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:10.559 month ago, so and I didn't know where you wanted to go with the 604 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.920 show. I mean, I wouldn't even have mentioned the website. We just 605 00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:16.079 talked to you and just just shared information. But no, no, no, 606 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:21.719 no, I'm happy, but I do want the answer to my question. 607 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.360 Is there a minimum monthly by to stay involved? No, no, 608 00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:28.639 there isn't. You can see if you want to be a customer. So 609 00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.239 life Wave sells a whole line of these patches. This is just one of 610 00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:35.760 them. Okay, if you want to buy the product, it comes in 611 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.559 what they call a sleeve. It's a thirty patch supply for one month because 612 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:42.920 they're disposed. We'll use one a day. You go to the website and 613 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.800 you can be a retail customer and get one order. Would it would cost 614 00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:49.840 you five dollars a day, would be about one hundred and fifty with shipping. 615 00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.400 It has a ninety day money back guarantee, and if you don't like 616 00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.920 it, you can return the unused product one hundred percent of your money back. 617 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.159 They truly have no questions asked, so there is no financial risk. 618 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:05.559 If you decide that you want to become what's called a preferred customer, you 619 00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.679 can do that and then the drop price drops to three dollars a month, 620 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:13.280 But you can quit it anytime, so you're not locked into You're never pressured 621 00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:16.480 to continue purchasing, and you're never pressured to share it with anybody else. 622 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:20.239 They treat you like grown ups, is the way I like to put it. 623 00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:27.119 If you're a preferred customer, is there a minimum buy only? If 624 00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.679 you're only if you want to be what they call a brand partner. All 625 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:35.519 these companies require you to have a certain amount of volume in your organization before 626 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:37.519 they can turn around and compensate you. Otherwise they go out of business. 627 00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:43.920 So if you're preferred, yeah, if you preferred customer, yeah, no, 628 00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:45.320 totally. If you're a preferred customer and you don't want to share this 629 00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:49.800 with anybody. You just want to use it for yourself. You're just buying 630 00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.039 whatever you want. Whatever number of patches you want to buy is what you 631 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:53.960 order, and if you don't like them, you can send them back. 632 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:58.320 You can not order this month, order next month. Is totally totally up 633 00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.880 to you. But once you go the the marketing side of it and you 634 00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:04.440 want to start to build an organization, well, yes, they then they 635 00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:08.719 set minimums, which which any marketing company would do, even outside of the 636 00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:15.280 network marketing space. Yeah, so does that answer question absolutely? And you 637 00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:21.159 know, transparency is very important to me here because again I have been involved 638 00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:25.559 with MLMs. I've been involved with ones i've regretted because to even get the 639 00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:30.519 product, you had to have a minimum buy and then you suddenly get a 640 00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:36.119 backlog of stuff and it's only if they auto ship, and a lot of 641 00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:45.199 them have moved away from that because that's really what destroyed the MLM's credibility with 642 00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:51.639 companies that major basically fill your basement with supplies. No, you're resolutely correct. 643 00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:53.480 That was the model back in the fifties and sixties and seventies, and 644 00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:59.519 starting around the nineties, the industry really cleaned itself up. But today it's 645 00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:02.800 very, very, very transparent. They're all very ethical the way they operated. 646 00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:07.360 All the big ones are let me say that. Put it that way, 647 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.320 all the all the major ones are. And one of the reasons I 648 00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:16.679 want to have this conversation with you on air, and I'm putting you in 649 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:21.719 a position where I had said to you before you come on, I don't 650 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.599 want you to be doing sales pitches, but I'm asking you. And one 651 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:30.840 of the reasons is, you know, I have good close friends that have 652 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:37.000 made fabulous livings off ethical MLMs and have helped other people make ethical livings off 653 00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:42.760 alms. And again I have no problem with it. I had got people 654 00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.760 involved with them before. But I'm always really clear, be really clear, 655 00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:53.719 just you know, decide, because you know, there's the old marketing type 656 00:49:53.920 --> 00:50:00.719 of thing that a lot of people either experienced or knew somebody that experience. 657 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:02.119 It says, oh, yeah, if you do this, you'll only have 658 00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:06.400 to work twenty hours a week, you'll be your own boss. Within six 659 00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.400 months, you can quit your job. You know, they give them, 660 00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:15.079 they give them the used car salesman approach. And that's why true. Having 661 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:22.199 this conversation You and I have both been around alone time and we've seen decades 662 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:29.239 of this stuff both be unethical and now, as you said, and that's 663 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:31.280 my experience as well, it's more ethical than it's ever been because it had 664 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:37.960 to be because the industry was dying because of its unethicalness. That but I 665 00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:44.559 want the listeners because I will guarantee you I have listeners that if they click 666 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:49.159 on the link, so MLM would not go any further just because they have 667 00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:52.039 a traumatic experience. Oh, I don't blame them in there, don't I 668 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.840 don't know. I don't blame them at all. The industry did a terrible 669 00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:59.400 job of representing itself, and you're right at the beginning you had distributors with 670 00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:04.760 basements the soap, powder and laundry concentrate and get stuck with the inventory of 671 00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.920 no Today it's it's a very enlightened you know, the Internet is what changed 672 00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:12.440 everything today. With every place you're going, there's a filly a link. 673 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:15.719 You know, click here to share this video with a friend. If you 674 00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:17.920 buy something from someone who's an Amazon affiliate, you know it's going to be 675 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:21.400 the same exact price. It's not going to cost you anymore. But a 676 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:23.239 little piece of that is going to go to the person who sent you the 677 00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:28.800 link. It's become normalized in our society. So the idea of referral marketing, 678 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:30.880 I don't even like multi level. It just sounds scheme, like this 679 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:35.639 big scheme. It's they call it relationship marketing. Now, they call it 680 00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:38.719 social marketing, you know, it's it's network marketing is even a pass a 681 00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:42.840 term now, But it's really just if you have something in your life that 682 00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.639 you think has value to other people, all you have to do is introduce 683 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:49.239 it to them, and they're totally welcome to say no, thank you, 684 00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.679 or tell me more. And then I don't personally, I don't ever follow 685 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.960 up with anybody because they don't want to be a salesperson. I don't even 686 00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:59.880 want that stigma, you know, I don't want it to have that aroma 687 00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:01.840 in the air because everybody assumes, oh my god, he's going to try 688 00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:06.480 to sell me something. So it almost makes it difficult sometimes to share something 689 00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.119 with someone that you knows. You almost feel like you have to backpedal so 690 00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:13.719 vigorously just to put something in front of someone. I've got friends who had 691 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:19.679 serious, serious health problems, who have had dramatic turnarounds by using this particular 692 00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.000 product. But almost every single time I had to be very careful how I 693 00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:27.800 brought it into the conversation because there's that instant, indeed jerk trigger, like, 694 00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:30.519 oh my goodness, he's going to try to sign me up with quote 695 00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.559 one of those things. But it turns out that these companies are very, 696 00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:38.400 very, very forward looking. And i'll tell you something else, Kevin. 697 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:42.119 I don't know if you're experienced lately, but when you're in one of these 698 00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:46.039 businesses, the people you're surrounded by these days, they're not They're not the 699 00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:51.039 piranha, the money seeking piranha that we saw a couple of decades ago. 700 00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:54.519 They tend to be more enlightened people. A lot of people are really there 701 00:52:54.559 --> 00:53:00.440 because they genuinely are enjoying how their life has changed as a result of being 702 00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:04.719 in this environment. Both what it's done for them financially, but it's what 703 00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.199 it's done for the people that they've shared the product of the service with. 704 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:19.320 So that's that's that's been my experience anyway. So one of the things is 705 00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:28.960 that again I wanted to have this part of the transparent conversation, so people 706 00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:35.440 who you know, and again I have clientele, I have people that you 707 00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:39.880 know, I look at this thing and I try it myself. I get 708 00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:46.280 a good feel from it away the things I'm going to be recommending it to 709 00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:52.199 the appropriate clients because that's why they come to me. Sure of course. 710 00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:59.400 Or you know that my medical intuitive and my thirty plush years of experience an 711 00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:05.119 alternative help. You know, it's not one or the other. This means 712 00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:07.960 there were so many things that we didn't get to that I would love to 713 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:12.119 have you come back at some point. Tell me you'll come and play on 714 00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.920 the Doctor Kevin Show again. Absolutely absolutely, I've got my years throw the 715 00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:21.119 ping pong ball over the net and more, Yes, sir, will your 716 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:28.239 pleasure. So, if I am not mistaken, you live within my area 717 00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:31.800 generally, I live in the Republic of New Hampshire. Yes I do, 718 00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:38.320 yes, So I know, and I know that we are going to start 719 00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:46.719 to hear the extro the exit music any moment now. So offline, let's 720 00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:52.079 let's be sure. Let's let's connect all right, let's see if we can 721 00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.119 connect in person. I would love to do that, right, it would 722 00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:57.559 be great. We'll get it. We'll hop on zoom and say hello to 723 00:54:57.599 --> 00:54:59.760 each I'd be nice to see you in the in the real world, and 724 00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:02.840 we'll we'll share some a lot, a lot of things I would love to 725 00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:07.519 share with your listeners, including on the whole financial side of things, which 726 00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:14.480 which would be a lot of fun to talk about. So that said, 727 00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:20.599 Gordon, I want to thank you for coming. I had left a message 728 00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:22.920 with you with your phone number that you you set me. I don't know 729 00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:28.639 if that's a textable line or not, but if not, feel free to 730 00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:34.559 call me back or text me and go on the Doctor Kevin Show on Facebook 731 00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:39.639 post the Stemstell thing. People are fully aware on what they're clicking if they 732 00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:45.559 choose to click it, and that's the kind of transparency. I need to 733 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:50.280 feel good about you posting it, and so let's share it with the world. 734 00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:52.639 I will thank you, sir. I appreciate it was It was a 735 00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:53.960 lot of fun. I really enjoyed talking with You've got a great sense of 736 00:55:54.039 --> 00:56:00.480 humor and I always appreciate that in a person. I laugh at everybody, 737 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:04.880 including myself. Have a good one. You to take care of. Bye bye.