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It's time for Coffee and Company,
fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine

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day. Now here's Nick Coffee.
It doesn't surprise me at all anymore.

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The things that we discussed on this
show that have nothing to do with sports

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at all usually end up getting the
most reaction, which doesn't mean that like

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it's something that everybody wants to talk
about, but it's relatable, right,

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And we'll get into that in just
a moment. I do want to let

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you know it is Coffee and Company, that's us. It's actually our number

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two, but it is five o'clock
because we had a shorter show today than

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usual because of some UK baseball.
But that's okay, really odd week with

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the schedule. But next week back
to routine and uh not that I want

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the weekend to go by fast,
but I'm looking forward to it. I

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need structure, I need some consistency, and I feel like the last couple

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of weeks have kind of just been
hectic and all over the place, all

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right, So trust me, we
are going to get to some hard hitting

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sports analysis and conversation because that's what
you tune into this show for, because

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we're just I mean, that's what
we do nothing but sports, sports,

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sports, sports, sports. But
I asked the question when we came back

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from our last break, is it
frowned upon to drink beer at a kid's

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birthday party? A kid who's turning
four years old? So my son's birthday

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party is tomorrow, and it's going
to be a pool party. It's at

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my mother and stepfather's house they host
each and every year. And somebody made

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a good point on the text line
say, Nick, I think it all

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depends on the situation, right,
if it's And one thing I got to

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do better at is highlighting certain parts
of these texts that you know are really

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the overall comic because I can't read
all I mean, I can't read,

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but I can't read all of it
if it's like, you know, eight

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sentences. But yeah, somebody's basically
say, Nick, you're good. If

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it's a poll party, people wouldn't
be surprised or bothered at all. If

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somebody's having a cold beer by the
poll that's kind of what people. And

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you're right, But I guess if
I was, like, I don't know,

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if I snuck beer into some you
know, chuck E cheese, which

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I think they sell beer too,
there actually, so maybe I wouldn't need

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to sneak it in. But look, the reason I ask is because if

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I mean, I have friends who
like if I told them, and I'm

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not kidding you, if I had
buddies who and I do, but some

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of my friends that are I'm really
close with, if I told them,

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like, hey, we're having Mason's
party Saturday. Should be a lot of

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fun, but just remember, you
can't bring beer. They would send their

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kids and their wife and they wouldn't
come. I mean they might, but

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like I'd never heard the end of
it. You can't let me drink beer

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to kid like It's so we're not
a bunch of raging alcoholics, but it's

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just you know, it's a social
thing for parents too. But the reason

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I bring this up is because there
are going to be kids there that I

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don't know much about, because there
are kids from his baseball team or his

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daycare, and I don't know their
parents, but they're going to bring them,

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and that's you know, I want
to make a good impression. Right

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he's only four years old, but
right, like I don't want his friends

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from daycare. I don't want their
parents to think bad of him because you

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know, Moose's dad was just pounding
bush lights at his kid's birthday party.

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Like, you know, you never
know what people are gonna think, right,

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I mean, the majority of my
friends that have kids that are around

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my kid's age, and like,
we all know each other. But it's

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you know what if first impression matters, probably wouldn't be good. But what

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if you joked with the parents who
didn't know and said, you don't put

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a bush light in your kid's lunchbox
every day? Yeah? I again,

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somebody who doesn't know me at all
probably wouldn't think that that's a serious comment.

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But you never know, if they
don't know me, maybe they don't

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pick up on sarcasm, which I've
I've gotten pretty good over the years of

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you know, really saying things in
a certain way that even though it sounds

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like there's no way he's being serious, the way I say it makes people

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think I am being serious. But
yeah, we're not going to play beer

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pong, you know, with with
the four year olds, but if parents

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want to get a quick game in
after we open up presents and cut the

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cake, I'm I mean, I'm
down. As long as you know,

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we keep our eye on the kids
and keep them safe. But again,

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most people have chimed in on the
text line here the Llen and Federal Credit

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Union text line to say that it's
fairly common for a summer party with kids

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to see people with, you know, a cooler full of some drinks,

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as long as we're all being responsible, in which we are. Now,

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once the party ends and you know
that's over, maybe I, you know,

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maybe maybe I really let loose.
Maybe Kekestan Nick comes back. Yeah.

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I haven't done Kekestan since that that
tailgate before the Notre Dame game.

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I probably will never do one again
because I'd never been good at it before.

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But the momentum was there before the
game. The vibe check was going

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well, we were about to finish
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I don't think I'll ever have a
Kexstan that's as good as that one.

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And it was Miller Lite too,
which I hate, but I powered through

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because the adrenaline was was taken over
all right, So something we did discussed

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the beginning of the show today,
the Coleman Hawkins situation, which I guess

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we can call it a situation.
He is available in the portal. He

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pulled his name out of the draft
at the last minute. Louisville was involved

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a few weeks ago, but then
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front court, which maybe just assumed
that there wouldn't be any any any future

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there. And I still don't know
for sure if it's going to be something

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that really materializes, as Louisville is
one of a few schools that's going to

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get a visit, but it's it's
certainly possible, you know. I I

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know they have thirteen scholarships that have
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But I remember a few weeks ago
talking to somebody who said, if there

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was a player that they felt could
really help them, which Coleman Hawkins,

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is that the transfer from Illinois,
And you know, they knew they had

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they knew they could land him with
the nil money they have available and his

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interest in joining the program, that
they would make that they could make it

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work. Now I don't know what
that means. I don't know what they

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do to make it work, but
they have I think a plan in place

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to where if in fact they could
go ad somebody, they could make a

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scholarship available. I don't think that's
booting somebody off the team and you know,

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making it to where you're telling them, we took your commitment, but

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now we don't need you any more. You know, pack your bags,

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hit the portal. But they have
some type of plan in place that if

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need be, they could free up
a scholarship. So I would say by

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Monday, we will probably have a
better idea as far as which schools are

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really pursuing him. Have I guess
an offer that's in the range of what

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he's looking for, and see where
he wants to schedule visits. I'd say

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thirty percent chance Louisville's in the mix
there, But that's just me guessing.

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It's just a guess because it wouldn't
shock me at all if he's doing the

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UFL flirtation online which he sends deleted
because he wants to drive up the price

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and let others know that. Louisville
again, because Louisville, as much as

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it is all exaggerated, and I
don't mean just for Louisville, I mean

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everybody. Louisville is one of maybe
five six schools in college basketball that has

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been tabbed by many as one of
the bigger spenders in NIL. So again,

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I think if you're And I don't
know if Great Osibor ended up doing

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that or not, but I remember
throughout his entire recruitment, during that few

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weeks where he was taking visits,
I gave him the benefit of the data,

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and I guess I still do.
But like, this is a different

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ballgame now, Folks like it could
like it's not. I'm not like reaching

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and throwing out something that's just insanely
unrealistic to say that he might have all

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along known he was going to go
play for Danny Sprinkle at Washington, but

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he needed to draw it out,
Go visit Louisville, go visit Kentucky,

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go visit Texas Tech, and then
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know that all those schools want him. They know that innile money's been offered.

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And that's the way in which Danny
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collective, whoever it is, hey, we need this guy, and we

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got to pay big, big,
big dollars because schools like Kentucky, Louisville,

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and even Texas Tech are involved and
they can pay. Like it seems

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silly to waste all that time,
not only your time, but other schools

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times to do all that if you
really know where you're going to go.

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But it's also there, you know
there's something in it now money right the

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end of the day, you're doing
these things for the big payoff at the

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end to get the big bag from
a school. It's probably not time wasted

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on your end. That was the
strategy. That's how you were able to

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get it done. So I don't
know what Colemanhawkins is thinking as far as

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which school he prefers. He did
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Big East or the Big Ten.
I would imagine that's probably just you know,

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Colemanhawkins kind of being the character that
he is. But make no mistake

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about it. If he's interested in
Louisville, as I believe, could make

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it work. As far as getting
him a scholarship available and they have nie

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all money, that would be you
know, enough to get him Hell yeah,

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he'd be I mean to be honest
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being your best player. As far
as just portal rankings, depending on where

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you look. I know some people
are really really high on Terrence Edwards Junior,

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which I am too fat. I
mean he's he's a top twenty,

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top fifteen guy in the portal depending
on where you look. So I'm not

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getting my hopes up just yet.
I'm not really you know, I don't

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think we need to spend a ton
of time tracking it just yet. But

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Monday, or maybe Tuesday of next
week, I would imagine there'll be some

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clarity as far as which schools appear
to be really in the mix, and

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I think Arkansas is certainly going to
be one of them. And then from

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there, I don't really know,
like if let's think, let's see,

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like who Marquette, Let's use Marquete
as an example or maybe I don't know,

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maybe I you maybe you know,
not a good example who should be

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good in the Big ten next year? Produce still projected to be pretty good.

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But I was going to try to, like I'm what I was trying

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to get at is that if those
if there's a school from the biggies to

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the Big ten that had a very
attractive role for him, a lot of

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minutes, yeah, and a lot
of money, maybe Ohio State, he'd

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go there right like he wouldn't,
not mean like for those wondering around even

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asking this, he said at the
NBA draft combain he did not want to

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play in the Big East or the
Big Ten, but he said it was

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because of football, which I don't
understand, Like, you know, that's

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just I think him being you know, the character that he is. But

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again, really good player. If
you could get him, that would be

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that'd be huge, all right.
So we also talked bracketology, and we

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had a good point that was made
by somebody in the text line as far

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as how you could find yourself in
the tournament next year if you're Louisville.

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So Leonardi again, it's so stupid
to talk about bracketology in May, but

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here we are in Louisville. This
has got to be their first appearance in

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any of joe Lenardi's brackets. And
by the way, they're not even really

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They're in the bracketology, but not
in the field. Leonardi has Louisville and

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Pat Kelsey is the first team out. But I would be willing to bet

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that Louisville hasn't been involved in any
of Joey Brackett's updates in three years.

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Like when Mack was in his last
season. At the beginning of the year,

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they might have been in but then
again, maybe not because if you

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remember that that season never really got
started off very I mean that season never

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really got rolling, right, I
mean that was they were not terrible,

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but I mean they's lost. Yeah, they lost to Furman in like the

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third game when Mack was suspended.
So it may have been the you know,

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Lenardes because Leonard's bracket, his last
bracket in the twenty twenty one tournament

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was the year Louisville was essentially in
and then bid Steelers and then they ended

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up being the first team like they
were the first team out in that year.

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So it's been a long time,
but anyways, he has Louisville as

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the first team out. Kentucky has
a seventh seed, Indiana as a four

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seed. But Louisville, if they're
on the bubble, if they're in this

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position where they're like, you know, that close and you really need a

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break to go your way or just
the committee to kind of side with you,

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I think, and again credit to
this person on the text line who

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brought this up. It really comes
down to how good the acc is,

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because when you're in that position,
your conference affiliation matters, right, You're

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gonna get the benefit of the doubt
from the committee. If your league is

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competitive, and you know, I
mean, your numbers are going to be

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influence. Your numbers are going to
be dependent upon that too, right Like

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if you know, if there's not
a whole lot of quad one, quad

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two opportunities in your league, that's
going to keep you from being able to

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really climb in those rankings, the
net rankings, the Ken Palm, all

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that kind of stuff, your strength
to schedule. So I don't think the

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ACC to be honest with the's gonna
be a lot better than it was last

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year. I could be wrong,
but it needs to get I mean,

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that's that's a big factor. And
I know people say, well, the

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Big twelve they just manipulated these rankings
because they played nobody in the non conference

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and then when they get into conference
play, they just beat up on each

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other and they all have good records
at that time. When they first get

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in the league play, they all
have good numbers in the initial net and

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the Ken Palm because they're playing teams
ranked in the two fifty and up and

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they're demolishing them, right, because
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or you won't climb in those in
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the reason the ACC has slipped and
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doubt is because in the non conference
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you'll you'll have a handful of games. In fact, you have now

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the ACC Big Ten Challenge or no, I'm sorry, it's the A C

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C SEC Challenge, and you know
other non conference games out there in these

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mtes, the Christmas Turn the Christmas
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tournaments or whatnot that you know,
the Maui, the Battlefort Yeah, the

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Battle Forortlantis and whatnot. And the
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stretch of the season to where you're
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as an ACC member, in recent
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of who they are. So if
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non conference, you need to beat
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let's be honest, the ACC has
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plus and lost to those teams.
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anybody. Louisville losing Quad three and
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the ACC. I mean they weren't
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but Louisville was clearly the worst of
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if Louisville is in fact right there
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gonna come down to maybe stealing a
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I think a big factor in them
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out, will be did the ACC
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right now and already has the ACC
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I don't think that would be a
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he has in from the ACC,
Miami is an eight seed, Duke is

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a one seed. Who else?
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Who else from the ACC? And

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they don't They mentioned the number of
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ones it is. It's Virginia in
there, I'm sure they are. They

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usually get the benefit of the doubt
from Joey brackets. Let's see, although

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maybe they see Pittsburgh. Okay,
so yeah, so that's kind of like

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so they're in but kind of not
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I'm that we're missing? Wake Forest
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this is I mean, and again, like I know, there's still people

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that really always defend the ACC and
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n C State going to the final
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mean that the league was great,
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prove anything, to be honest with
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tournament is how you're evaluated, and
I get it wouldn't really have it any

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other way. But it's what's unique
about college basketball, right sixty eight teams

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get in and if you get in
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that's all you're gonna be remembered for, and that that's what makes it

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cool. But it also doesn't change
history, like the ACC having NC State

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in the final four. You know, to me, State team was was

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lost from Louisville away from losing its
head coach. Yeah, I mean they

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were terrible. I mean they played. I mean again, they were I

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think they won like three of their
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mind what's also realistic is some of
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non seed pit playing playing its way
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honest with you why I think Louisville
can get in and why I think they

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can ended up having a much better
year than most would have expected because they

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don't play in a great league.
I wish they did. I used to

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love it when Louisville was in the
ACC in the Big East and week in

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and week out, one of your
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good team where if you won,
there was real value there, there was

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currency for you to collect and add
to your resume. And now you have

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in recent years you'll play one game
a month. It seems like where there's

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real value there. And that's not
an exaggeration. Go look it up.

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So we shall see. I also, real quick before we move on and

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take our first break here in the
five o'clock hour, Duke being a one

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seed kind of surprised me in this
Linardi bracket because you know, Duke is

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Duke. They get the benefit of
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They're never terrible, but they were
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be real, they've been pretty black, pretty mid as the kids say in

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the early John Shire era, right
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and therefore that's that's a pretty good
run for a in his second year

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as a head coach. But he
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with Duke, there's expectations, and
you could make the claim that with

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Kyle Pilapowski back, they still kind
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reason why Duke may be getting an
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is because Cooper Flag may in fact
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college basketball in a long time.
And I know, freshman don't impact the

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game the way they used to because
there's a lot more old guys that are

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sticking around and a lot of teams
are old now because you can be with

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the portal, you don't have to
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and most coaches are going to prefer
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one of those guys, meaning an
elite of the elite is Zion Williamson,

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Trey Young, Anthony Davis, those
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John Wall and I'm not comparing him
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that kind of talent, which it
sounds like he does, and he physically

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is ready to go, then he
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a superstar. And I think college
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Hunter Dickinson could play seven years in
college basketball, which he probably already

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has another I think about it,
and he could be a first team All

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American putting up great numbers for a
great team. But he's not going to

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sniff the NBA and that limits the
overall, like national publicity that he's going

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to get. But anyways, real
quick, the last time we had one

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of those freshmen that were just you
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Zion I feel like was probably it. And you know, I'm going to

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go through this list here. So
in twenty nineteen, the year after Zion

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Anthony Edwards was the number one player
in American he was as good as advertised,

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but he played for a bad,
bad team that Tom Cream coach did

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Georgia and it really limited like he
was. Georgia wasn't appointment viewing because they

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were so bad. I mean they
weren't even just like, I mean,

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they were terrible. James Wiseman was
number two. There was a lot of

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hype for him, but he didn't
deliver on the hype. I don't think

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did he. I mean, in
fact, he's actually going to go down

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as a humongous bust because I think
his NBA career is about to come to

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an end. Cade Cunningham was in
the twenty twenty class. He was really

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good and I feel like there was
a lot of national intention on him,

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but like his team wasn't. In
fact, his team actually had a postseason

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bad but they wouldn't have made it
anyway. And that was a really weird

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class too, by the way.
Like that class had Jalen Green who went

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to the G League, Evan Mobley, who you don't really remember a whole

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lot about him. I know he's
in the NBA having success. BJ Boston

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was the number six player in America. We all know that didn't really pan

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out to be legit. In twenty
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I would say he was. He
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since then, wouldn't you agree,
Like he was really highly superstar. Yeah

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he wasn't drawing headlines every single day, but yeah, he was really good.

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They look. Part of it is
when you enter college, are you

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a marketed star yet? And that
may sound silly like Chet Holmgren was and

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he was a good player again zaga, but he I mean he was like

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the fifth best player on his own
team. Was that the same year with

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Brandon Miller as well? Or to
the follower? Yes, yeah, so

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I you know Brandon Miller. Let's
see, let me see here, I

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think I think you know. I'm
sorry. Brandon Miller was the year after

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that. But here's a good example. Bari Smith at Auburn was really good,

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you remember, Yeah, but nobody
knew who he was because he wasn't

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ranked that high, Like he didn't
have that much like he wasn't expected to

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be. Like the best case scenario
for you to be the ultimate hype machine

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as a freshman in college basketball is
for you to have like top five billing.

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Your recruitment plays out to where you're
picking from the big schools. Everybody's

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watching to see which one you pick. And then you get there at one

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of these big schools, you're already
hyped and then you deliver like that is

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that is notoriety pub you know,
marketing that you can't buy anywhere else,

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and you can't get it anywhere else, Like go to the G League,

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nobody's gonna watch play. Go Overseas, nobody's gonna watch play. So like,

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yeah, and then twenty twenty two
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I mean he was, I mean
he was. Some people think he

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might have been National player the year
had it not been for Yeah. Yeah,

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and you know he was. He
was the top. He was like

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twentieth in the country. So it's
been a long time since there's been a

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freshman I'm not saying we have to
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good to have it every now and
then because it does bring, you know,

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a different type of fan to the
college basketball game, pro fans who

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want to see the next NBA star
in college and maybe that is who Cooper

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Flag is. All Right, terrible
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We'll have a couple more segments here
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weekend. It's Friday. Let's get
it started. I was talking to John

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about this during the break, and
it's there's an obvious reason for it,

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but we have talked so much basketball
in the last couple of months, more

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like more so than we usually do
this time of year. But I do

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think moving forward, basketball is going
to be talked about more so in the

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spring and early summer months because we
have free agency season and there's a lot

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of moving parts and it's actually pretty
fun to cover. It's hard to keep

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up with the times, and it's
been really hectic with Louisville and even Kentucky

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because both programs are starting completely over
thirteen new scholarship players. But Louisville football,

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like I talked a little, actually, we talked more football yesterday than

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we have in a while, just
talking about some of the some of the

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pieces back on defense and whatnot.
And we'll get there. But I don't,

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you know, I don't want to
act like we're ignoring or Louisville football

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because you know, Jeff bron being
home coming off ten wins, going to

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the a SEC Championship game in his
first year, like it's perfect situation for

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Louisville, and I see no reason
why they can't do the exact same thing

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they did last year. I mean, we'll see against schedules tougher, but

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it's just been all basketball. But
not because we don't love football, not

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because we don't love brom Again,
I think most fans agree that this year

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could be just as good as last
year. But with basketball being in the

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dump for the three years that it
was, and now you have reason to

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be excited, you have reason to
be you know, optimistic. The team

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could actually be pretty damn good next
year. We don't know that for sure,

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but you have reason to believe,
and I think you're justified in thinking,

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hey, we should be a tournament
tournament team next year. I think

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because of the drastic difference in vibe
in the last couple of years compared to

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now. I think that's why there's
just such a like People are his hell

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about Louisville basketball for obvious reason.
But again, I don't want people to

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think I'm, you know, like
not as madly in love as Jeff Brahm

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as I was years ago. I
still love the man and have him happy

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that you know that he's here as
I now. Transition to a basketball thing.

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So Pat Kelsey did one of his
social media videos yesterday. Look,

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these things are so like I always
knew that engaging your fan base mattered.

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I always knew that doing things to
get people excited can only help you.

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It can generate interest and engagement with
your program, People buy tickets, there's

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more people into it, like it's
the best of both worlds. But always

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thought deep down that that stuff doesn't
really matter and it's not needed if you're

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winning at a high level. And
Patino never did anything like that. He

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didn't even have social media. Mac
would do the occasional stuff on social media,

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but you know, he wasn't a
showman by any means. And Pat

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Kelsey is, and this stuff matters
more now given the recent situation for Louisville

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than it ever has. And last
night he did a minute video just talking

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about the talking to the fans and
also talking about each of the players.

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I mean, he didn't do a
full breakdown of the roster, but he

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named all the guys. And I'm
not making fun of anybody, because I

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was just as excited and fired up
to see it as anybody. But man,

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like, we needed a guy like
this to come in and inject energy,

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enthusiasm, passion, and you know, say things like you know he's

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ready to win now, like there's
no you know, this program isn't broken,

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that kind of stuff, and we'll
see, you know again. Only

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time will tell as far as what
the results are, and the results are

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really all that ultimately matters. But
Kinny Payin had no results other than horrible

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poor results. And he also didn't
do anything like this, and that's why

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it ended up being, in my
opinion, the worst hire in college basketball

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history. Yo, cardination, PK
here, big week. I'm sure you've

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been following on social media all our
guys being announced. They're all starting to

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arrive for summer workouts. So excited. See if I can do this.

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Cadre Javon, Chucky James Terrence aka
Fat Frankie, Reino, Ali Kobe,

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Noah, Cason, Kanai and Corn
I call him Scoring Korn, little nickname

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drop there. Why not? Ton
of buzz, ton of energy around the

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city. We've had a great spring
putting this roster together. Fired up about

408
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getting in the gym. Hey,
there's big stuff going on this weekend up

409
00:26:32.759 --> 00:26:37.440
the street at football, coach Brahm
has a huge recruiting weekend. Those guys

410
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are getting it done. Huge shout
out to all the head coaches at the

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University of Louisville Athletics just bending over
backwards to help my staff and I in

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this transition. This truly is a
family, and I'm lucky, lucky,

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lucky to be a part of it. Hey, we'll see you all soon.

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Go cards. L's up. So
Koran scoring. I don't know if

415
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:03.079
that's score and core and I don't
know if that's if that's gonna hit or

416
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.400
not, but it might just be
cheesy enough to where like it just becomes

417
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a thing, you know what I
mean. Like also like Reino for Raine

418
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:14.039
Smith. Yeah, because he's he's
a marksman, he's a shooter. But

419
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:17.079
yeah, that I would imagine that's
why they call him Reino Draino, that

420
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.839
kind of thing. But fans,
and I don't just mean Louisville fans,

421
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college fans, who college sports fans, you know, the diehards. They

422
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:34.839
get aroused at unreal levels when their
coaches hype up the other coaches in their

423
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in their program, you know what
I mean, Like Pat Kelsey hyping up

424
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brom for the visits he's having this
weekend, Pat Kelsey going out and you

425
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:49.119
know, participating in a spring practice, putting on pads. You know,

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00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:53.559
Jeff brom doing national interviews this spring
and talking about Pat Kelsey and talking about

427
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:59.039
how great he is. Like fans
love that stuff. I mean, I'm

428
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I'm I'm with you. I'm one
of the fans too. But it's just

429
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:06.160
I can't explain why it is,
but like people love that. Like when

430
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:11.480
Chris Mack and Sadderfield were here and
they had their little bromance and Mac would

431
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:17.680
do a video with the social media
group to help promote Sadurfield and him did

432
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:18.640
a video or ma I don't even
know that. I don't remember the story

433
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.119
of the video, but Matt,
I don't know. Was Mack had a

434
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:22.920
guitar and it was basically a way
to get people to buy tickets to the

435
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:29.640
Music City Bowl when Louis was playing
in Nashville. But the toilet papering the

436
00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:34.519
house houses, that was like it
was just it was so different because we

437
00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:38.599
had relatable coaches that kind of seemed
you know, like you know, relatable,

438
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:42.039
more down to earth than the previous
two leaders we had in those sports.

439
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:45.599
Rick Patino, who is the most
unrelatable human I've ever been around in

440
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.400
my life maybe, and Bobby Petrino, who I'm convinced is not human.

441
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.960
I think he's a robot. And
then you have guys who you know kind

442
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:59.079
of one of the boys, and
Mac ended up tpeeing Sadderfield's house because they

443
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:00.880
lived just down the street from me
each other, and it was to congratulate

444
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:04.720
him for winning ACC Coach of the
Year. I think Christy videoed it and

445
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:10.079
they went up on social media,
and like, I'll always remember that reaction

446
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.200
from fans because it did kind of
blow me away as how much people thought

447
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.720
that was the coolest thing ever.
But it was more than anything. It

448
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.400
was just a drastic difference than what
we were used to. But it also

449
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:25.480
reminds me that stuff matters now when
you're not getting when there's no opportunity to

450
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:29.720
get results right, it's good to
do that kind of stuff, win or

451
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:32.240
lose. You should do these kind
of things, I think, just because

452
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.640
I think it's in your best interest
if you're not winning enough, and it's

453
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:38.480
borderline, if fans like you,
they'll be more willing to give you the

454
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:42.200
benefit of the doubt and let you
write it out now fans don't decide who

455
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.119
the coaches. But you know what
I mean, like it is in your

456
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.160
best interest to engage your fan base. And you know, don't be faked,

457
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.559
don't be phony. People will leave
that. But like be relatable,

458
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:52.960
you know, make it it seem
as if you do enjoy having the position

459
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.720
that you have, and it could
go a long way. And I think

460
00:29:55.799 --> 00:30:00.960
Kelsey's clearly going to do that,
whereas Kenny Payne didn't. But I always

461
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:04.759
use this example, like, you
know, Sadderfield was, you know,

462
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:08.160
all you know, all shucks,
loving them up, you know, and

463
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.759
we loved it because it was different
than what we had with Bobby. He

464
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:15.279
was all about loving them up culture
and you know he was corny, but

465
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:17.759
he was our cornball when he went
when he went eight and five in his

466
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.359
first year. But like you know, as soon as they start losing,

467
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.880
all you better quit loving him up. You better, you better toughen those

468
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.440
guys up. They're gonna get their
ass kicked if they don't start acting like

469
00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:30.599
men like things you loved about him
initially. When they don't win, it

470
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.799
gets weaponized against them. The best
examples Mac Macca is a pretty normal dude.

471
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:38.079
In fact, Mac in my opinion, is a really good basketball coach.

472
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.799
He was too normal for this job
because like, you know, at

473
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.519
some point, like he didn't really
enjoy that. You know, I don't

474
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.799
think he was ever like bothered by
the amount of people who knew who he

475
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.759
was. But you know, he
wasn't a showman. He didn't want to

476
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:55.960
be out in front of the fans
doing some of the stuff that Pat Kelsey's

477
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.000
doing, just because that's not his
personality. So they you know, he'd

478
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:02.400
lose a game and you might see
him the next day watching the Bengals at

479
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:06.359
roosters, or you know, in
the summer, he might get off a

480
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:11.240
recruiting trip. They might miss on
a player, but he'll probably be at

481
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.240
the lake with his family, crushing
beers, having a good time. So

482
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.000
like those are things like man like
he eats at roosters like me, we

483
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:22.920
get the same kind of wings.
I saw him at the lake. He

484
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.519
goes to the same lake I go
to. Man, I love this guy,

485
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.319
he's one of us. But then
start losing results aren't there. He

486
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.880
better get his ass out of roosters
and get back to the gym and start

487
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.920
working with this team, because they
suck. You better get off the lake

488
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.160
and hit the recruiting trail and get
us some five stars. We're crazy.

489
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:45.960
We're crazy people as fans like,
and it really is a it's a psychological

490
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.079
thing that I just, you know, I can't really compare it to anything

491
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:55.759
else, but I wouldn't have it
any other way. The one and the

492
00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:00.480
only Tony Venetti one time said something
that has never really it's never really left

493
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:04.880
my brain when I think about college
athletics, and it hasn't changed my mindset

494
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.920
as far as how I you know, am as a fan. But like,

495
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:12.519
and I'm not saying it, he
said it like it like college like

496
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:17.079
dialhard college fans are suckers, especially
within the world of nil Like like who

497
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:22.000
else would pay a donation just to
be able to buy season tickets to something?

498
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.519
People who are obsessed with their alma
mater, their school because they love

499
00:32:25.559 --> 00:32:29.400
it and if they have, you
know, they'll make it work financially because

500
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:35.440
they love it that much. Fans
donating money while they also pay a lot

501
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.640
of money for tickets and all that
kind of stuff to get to pay the

502
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:43.720
players is if you really think about
it, insanely stupid. It's just it's

503
00:32:43.759 --> 00:32:46.920
it's crazy However, it's the way
that it is, and if you don't

504
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:51.519
do it, you probably won't get
good enough players, and that's not what

505
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.039
anybody wants. You want to succeed. Now, maybe that you know,

506
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.759
maybe that changes a little bit whenever
they become employees, if that's what ends

507
00:32:55.799 --> 00:33:00.000
up happening. But in al's not
going away. It'll just be looked at

508
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.000
as the additional money that they get
that kind of separates them from just the

509
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.720
other guys who are getting paid it
as an employee, but not as you

510
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:14.319
know, like they are not getting
as big of anil deal. But anyways,

511
00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:17.240
with Pat Kelsey, he's doing all
the right things, saying all the

512
00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:22.119
right things, which is really all
you can do right now because you know,

513
00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.480
he can't coach a game until we
get to we get to the season,

514
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.920
which is still many many months away. But I am curious to see

515
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:32.960
how involved in how active he is
during the TBT because Louisville again is hosting

516
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:37.440
at Freedom Hall, and you know, that'll be a good opportunity for him

517
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.279
to be around fans and stuff,
because there'll be a games, I'm sure,

518
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:44.359
and I would imagine they'll interview him
during one of the games. Just

519
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:46.359
like they did last year with Josh
Hurd. They would have interviewed Kenny Payne

520
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:50.480
probably, but you know, he
only went to one game, and this

521
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:52.599
is silly. We don't need to
talk about Kenny. It's Friday. I'm

522
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:57.799
feeling good. But Jeff Brown went
to more of the TBT games for Louisville

523
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.799
last year than Kenny Payne did.
Like think about that. All right,

524
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:02.440
quick break, we'll come back on
the other side with very little time left,

525
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:08.119
but we do have the tip time
and the date for the Louisville Kentucky

526
00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:12.440
basketball game next season, So we'll
get to that as we finish it up

527
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:14.880
here and get chat here for the
weekend right here in Sports Talk seven ninety.

528
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:21.840
So we will see Louisville and Kentucky
play each other next season. By

529
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.360
the way, first obvious game between
the two new coaches, a new era

530
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:28.280
here within the rivalry Pat Kelsey and
Mark Pope. It's going to be on

531
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.320
Saturday, December the fourteenth, and
of course at rupp Arena, a little

532
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:35.719
earlier, I feel like than what
it's typically been, and that's okay by

533
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.360
me. I liked it. It's
a Saturday. I don't really care when

534
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.800
the game is because I'm gonna watch
it regardless. But what this does is

535
00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:45.039
this is the Saturday after the college
football conference championship week, so no major

536
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.079
bowl games have happened just yet,
and you're not going to be going up

537
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:51.280
against a whole lot. It's actually
going to be a pretty light weekend when

538
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.840
it comes to football, and that
is usually like the first and really only

539
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.679
day in December where college basketball's got
a time. You know, He's got

540
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.800
the spotlight on a Saturday because of
that, and that's when this game will

541
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.199
be played. So again, I
don't know when it's gonna start as far

542
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.199
as tiptom, I'm mistake. I
thought they put out imagine it probably be

543
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:09.480
the middle of the afternoon. But
yeah, can't wait. There's gonna be

544
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:14.599
a lot of three point shots taken, given the fact that Charleston and BYU

545
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:19.199
last year were both in the top
three when with three point attempts per game.

546
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:21.440
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Edlin dot com. Any big weekend
plans company? Man, you know I

555
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.320
don't. It's funny. I feel
like whenever I get asked this question,

556
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:59.519
it's easy to just not think about
what I have going on this week because

557
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.719
I don't really care and think of
anything. Man, Sometimes weekends are are

558
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:07.159
are great when you don't really have
a whole lot going on. Not you

559
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:08.400
know, you don't want to be
bored all weekend, Although sometimes it is

560
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:10.920
nice to have a chill weekend and
not do a whole lot. However,

561
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:16.239
I will say this, my favorite
weekends at this point in my life are

562
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.960
where I don't really have a whole
lot playing, but I end up,

563
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.159
you know, kind of spontaneously getting
into something and having a good time.

564
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.679
Yeah, that's that's a lot of
fun. Or do have my son's birthday

565
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:28.960
party tomorrow, which will be which
will be fun, but other than that,

566
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.159
it'll be four. Moose is getting
older, which makes me sad,

567
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:36.119
but uh yeah, four years old. All right, John, You have

568
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:37.800
yourself a good weekend, my friend. To talk to you guys on Monday.

569
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:38.280
Take care,

