WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:15.279 Welcome to the crown On InCor Greyhounds. This is Richmond Till We Die, 2 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:19.039 a conversation about the Apple TV Plus show ted Lasso, where we explore the 3 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:22.359 characters, their relationships to each other, and how they're able to make us 4 00:00:22.440 --> 00:00:25.920 laugh until we can hardly breathe one moment and then feel with the deepest parts 5 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:35.280 of our hearts the next. I'm Brett and I've been tasked with you in 6 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:39.759 the intro and altro for this episode by myself because apparently I work with two 7 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:45.840 pre madonnas. Joe's kidding all jokes aside, Marissa, Christian and I are 8 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:52.159 so excited to present this episode's guest actor, Maximilian Osinski. Y'all know him 9 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:57.119 for his work as Zava on ted Lasso, the newest and most enigmatic member 10 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.200 of our beloved AFC Richmond. Those who aren't familiar with the soccer world may 11 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:04.159 not know that Zava bears a whole lot of resemblance, both physically and in 12 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:11.640 personality, to the iconic and larger than life Swedish footballer named Zlatan Ibrahimovich og 13 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.439 Marvel. Fans may also recognize Max from his role as Agent Davis in the 14 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:19.920 ABC show Agents of Shield, or as Dennis Graham in The Walking Dead World 15 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.599 Beyond. Max has also made appearances on the NYC theater scene and has both 16 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:27.400 the writing and producing credit for work that he did on the TV miniseries Hollywood 17 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:33.519 Hitman, which he also starred in. We've loved the energy, no the 18 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:38.000 aura that Max has brought to this third season of ted Lasso, and we're 19 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:41.519 excited that we can all get this chance to get to know him and Zava 20 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:46.040 a little better. So Greyhounds please join us as we give a warm welcome 21 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:49.840 to Maximilian Osinski. Thank you for being on the show. Max. Hello, 22 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:53.319 everyone listening, Thank you guys for having me. Yeah, thanks for 23 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:57.799 being here. How did you come to be involved with ted Lasso and specifically 24 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:02.560 when you audition did you know you were auditioning for us a lot on the 25 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:07.759 character. Oh yeah, well, it kind of all happened, and it 26 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:13.719 was magic in a way because me and my wife, after the pandemic, 27 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:19.319 we found we've lived in la for ten years plus and we kind of just 28 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:22.560 wanted to get out after everything started opening up, and so we're like, 29 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:24.680 why don't we just rent our house and go to London for three months, 30 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:28.039 and I was like what. She was like, yeah, let's just, 31 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:30.439 you know, go on an adventure. So I agreed. I said that 32 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:35.879 sounds great. So we did and come out here. We rented the house 33 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:39.719 and then we came out. But November third, I remember, and about 34 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:45.639 a month in I got this self tape request for the show. And I 35 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:47.520 remember getting the tape and I was like, there's a breakdown for the role 36 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:51.439 and it said, you know, one of the top scores in the world 37 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:58.759 based on several like famous soccer players or a football players. Yeah, And 38 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:00.960 then I was like, I can't. I don't play soccers, must be 39 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:07.719 able to soccer. Please send a clip of yourself doing some soccer tricks. 40 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:13.960 I'm like, I'm an immigrant. I came here when I was eight weeks 41 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:17.039 old from Poland, but I didn't grow up with a football tied to my 42 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:21.479 ankle like a lot of the kids do here right in London, man, 43 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:27.680 there they look like many messies at four years old. And so I almost 44 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:31.800 I almost kind of psyched myself out because I thought the role was really fun 45 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:35.120 and I thought I could do it, but the whole soccer thing, because 46 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.039 I had seen Christo on the show and I just want to preface this. 47 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:40.719 Me and my wife were huge fans of the show, like everyone else in 48 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:46.400 the stage, right, I love the show. We felt good watching it. 49 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:52.719 All our friends loved it. So you get the tape and then request 50 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:55.240 and you see that and I kind of almost psyched myself out because I don't 51 00:03:55.400 --> 00:04:00.199 like, I suck it football. I don't mean to disappoint any of the 52 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:06.800 fans of the show. Um what you're an actor? Shocked? Yeah, 53 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:13.240 um and then um psyching myself out. You know, I almost turned down 54 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:15.360 the table. I remember I was like that day, I was gonna call 55 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:18.480 my manager. But like, guys, it's it's ted Lasso, it's season 56 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:23.519 three. For this role, they can cast anyone. They could literally I 57 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:26.680 thought they could literally call it any Premier League player and say do you want 58 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:29.639 to play this role? Right, because Peo wouldn't want to be on the 59 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:34.000 show by then. Um, and last minute, my wife was like, 60 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:39.079 just why don't you call our friend Damian Bodie's he's a friend of ours and 61 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:42.800 he lives in Australia and he's like a super positive guy. He's almost like 62 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:46.519 a Ted Lasso. And I gave him a call and he was like, 63 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.879 what, oh Max did lasso. Oh no, you gotta do it. 64 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:55.800 Just do like, show them what you got, don't show them what you 65 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:59.680 don't got. Um, it's probably a terrible Australian accident. I'm so sorry. 66 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:02.319 Yeah. He just said, dude, you you look the part. 67 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:06.639 You're in shape. Um you can. You can smash the tape and then 68 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:10.519 just go to the park, take your shirt off, exercise as the character 69 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:15.920 and maybe do some slow motion kicks and it's gonna look badass. And I 70 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:16.879 took his advice and I said, all right, yeah, all right, 71 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:21.199 I'll try. So I felt better and I did the actual tape the size 72 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:26.199 that came with it, um than me and my own wife. In character, 73 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:30.240 we improvised like an interview with Zava, Yes, and I spoke a 74 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.079 little bit of Polish in there, just to like, you know, show 75 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:36.360 them what I got basically, you know, highlight what I can do and 76 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:41.079 not what I can't. And then we went to the park and like I 77 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:45.519 probably looked like, um, like an household because I took off my shirt 78 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.800 and I started doing crazy stuff. I was doing push ups in character, 79 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:57.279 like style soccer or football warm ups. You see the guys do on the 80 00:05:57.319 --> 00:06:02.079 field, pull ups on a tree. I was squatting at this big log, 81 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:08.279 winking to the camera, and then slow motion like me terribly running up 82 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:13.199 trying to kick the ball up high, and like doing some knee knee juggling 83 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:15.600 and dribbling, and then like a header and slow motion and we put it 84 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:21.519 to music and I just tried to have joy and fun with the tape. 85 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:26.920 And it was a lot of fun, and the tape was fun to make 86 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:29.439 and it was fun to look at. And then I just sent it off 87 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:31.959 and I said, you know, that's what I got, So that's the 88 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:36.000 guy if I was going to do them. And it took about a month 89 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:41.160 from when I sent the tape to when my reps called and said I got 90 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:46.199 it. And unbeknownst to me, my reps were basically like keeping it really 91 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:48.680 low key that my tape was getting traction and moving up the food shape. 92 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.720 And they called me like a week out before the official offer and they're like, 93 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:55.399 or no, I just think I actually know. I just like pinged 94 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:58.800 my manager. I was like, hey, did we ever get any feedback 95 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:01.240 or about the last thing, because they were laughing at the table when I 96 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:03.720 sent there. I was like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, um, 97 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:08.160 it's gone up pretty high. We're just waiting for Jason to approve the tape 98 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:12.000 and I was like, what, it's a good bit of first news. 99 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:14.439 Yeah, I was like, Jason Sadakis is like yeah, yeah, yeah, 100 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:15.399 they just sent the tape to him and I was like, oh my 101 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:18.040 god, we should know by the end of the week. And I was 102 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:23.519 like is this really possible. I'm like really, And then we were out 103 00:07:23.519 --> 00:07:26.120 there dinner with my wife and the in laws who were here to visit. 104 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:30.399 Um. I think it was like December eighteenth, and my my agent manager 105 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:36.160 called and said your your Zava and it was very exciting, a bit surreal. 106 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:43.199 H the best Christmas gift a guy could ask for. Yeah, And 107 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.839 I remember my wife. My wife teared up a little bit because she loved 108 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:48.959 the show and cried and I cried a little too hard because I was wondering, 109 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:59.519 did you not did you believe? But yeah, that's kind of how 110 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:03.079 it came to be, in the process of me trying to how I taped 111 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.600 for and what I what I brought to the to the tape and the read 112 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:11.360 So yeah, it was. It was fantastic news, very just I'm so 113 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.959 lucky. It was like really just stupid luck, you know, and I'm 114 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.120 I got hired as an actor from this, Like they weren't looking for actors 115 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:24.240 in the States. They were looking for like globally everywhere else but America apparently. 116 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:26.600 So it's kind of like, good, you just made the cut. 117 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:31.680 I just made the cut and it worked out. It worked out, which 118 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.799 then kept us here until and like till end of the July. Because of 119 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:41.720 the show, Marissa of the three of us, has the most illustrious soccer 120 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:43.080 career. I think it peaked. When did it peaked, Marissa? Around 121 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.600 middle school? Yeah, that sounds about right, Christian. Yeah, and 122 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:50.039 since then, you know, now, none of the three of us are 123 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:56.279 gonna trick anybody into thinking we're professional footballers. But we watch a lot of 124 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:01.200 soccer. And so the minute that we out of like heard your character being 125 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.000 described on screen and then saw you, it was very clear that you were 126 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:11.399 based off of Zlatan Ibrahimovich. Inspired by lat Ibrahimovich. How where were you 127 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:18.080 of him before you auditioned for the role, and then how did you prepare 128 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:24.120 to play him? Because he is very well known, enigmatic and specific in 129 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:28.720 how people understand him. Yeah, well, I mean, the Breakdown referenced 130 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:35.919 um Eric Cantona references lats On Ibrahimovich, and they didn't say that he's like 131 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.679 a villain. They described him more as like an agitator. And I had 132 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:45.360 no idea coming from the States who's lot On Ibrahimovich was. But after getting 133 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.440 the part, I just I watched some interviews and stuff for the audition to 134 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:52.120 get kind of the sense of some of these guys. But once I got 135 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:56.919 the part, I kind of just dove into that world. I read tons 136 00:09:56.919 --> 00:10:03.080 of books and bios, watched hours of like documentaries and interviews. I read 137 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:09.320 Zlatan's book I Am Football Right, which is amazing. He didn't entitle it's 138 00:10:09.399 --> 00:10:13.639 Laton as football, but whatever. Yeah, but I'll be honest with you 139 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:18.720 guys, I I fell in love with Latan Ibrahima. That's like I really 140 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:22.000 got to know who the guy was, like not just from like the YouTube 141 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:26.080 clips you see, but like hit the book he wrote, and then the 142 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:30.960 interviews and hearing other people talk about him. I really admire the guy. 143 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:35.240 And I think Jason and Brendan said the same thing interview, like they're huge 144 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:39.519 fans of his and I became a huge fan of his and I kind of 145 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.799 learned that these guys, the way they present to the public and the press 146 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:48.879 is they're completely different in the locker room and with friends and family, and 147 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:54.559 some of them present in a Xava esque way, some of them a lot 148 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:58.679 more quiet, or you can say humble, like a messy or you know, 149 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:01.879 a Zaidan. There's Canton All too, who was a big kind of, 150 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:05.919 I think, an influence for the writers of the show. So yeah, 151 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:09.519 it was just a lot of trying to understand why these guys behave the 152 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:15.519 way they do and why they change. And I think you kind of see 153 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:20.679 that in episode three a little bit when he finally gets to meet the team 154 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:26.919 and everyone. The charisma and there is a genuineness when they're talking to you. 155 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:30.399 They are talking to you there in the moment. There's no one else 156 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:35.159 of concern. It's like, I'm talking to you. And I remember like 157 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:37.000 that, and I kind of compared it to him. I had a friend 158 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:41.360 who's a costume designer and she worked with Tom Cruise on a movie, and 159 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:43.200 you know, you're like, oh, it's Tom Cruise. He's coming in 160 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:48.080 and once you're in the room with him, he's in the room with you. 161 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:50.080 He knows your name, he knows what you do, he's interested in 162 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:54.639 what you're doing, and he's humble and he wants to work together. And 163 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:58.240 I think I thought that was something interesting to bring to him if I could 164 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:03.279 in helping tell the story, you know, like at the end of the 165 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:05.799 day, it's their guy, their show, their story, and they you 166 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.399 know, I'm just there to help facilitate the vision they want right for the 167 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:15.159 season. So I usually I'll do whatever they need with the character. But 168 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:18.440 as an actor, I kind of prepared it like I was playing a biopic, 169 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.799 you know. I didn't want to go in like doing a bad impression 170 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:28.519 of someone, and I wasn't trying to do an impression of any individual soccer 171 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.159 player. I know people are saying there's a lot of similarities, but that 172 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.200 wasn't my intention. And the way where I come from, I thought it 173 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:39.200 was interesting if he did sound like you can't figure out where he's from, 174 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.399 right, you know, I'm Polish. I didn't want to sound I didn't 175 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.919 want to have a Polish accent. I didn't want to have a Russian accent, 176 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:48.639 Swedish, French. But these guys are international, They've lived everywhere. 177 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:54.200 Ye because black Time's lived everywhere. You know, he has his moms from 178 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.039 one place, his dad's from a complete other place, grew up here, 179 00:12:56.159 --> 00:13:01.080 speak several languages. I thought it was just interesting if you can't point where 180 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.759 I don't know where he's from, I can't tell, right, Yeah. 181 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:07.200 I think the you've mentioned that and some other interviews like kind of the work 182 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:11.840 you did to sort of add some mystique, even more mystique to the character 183 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:16.399 through a sort of unidentifiable like he's not clearly Russian or Polish or something like 184 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:22.080 that. He's just kind of vaguely European metropolitan, you know, like it's 185 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.000 a it's a really it's a brilliant choice, I think, And I think 186 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:28.960 that's one of the reasons that people just have that strong point of reference to 187 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:33.879 a player like Latan, because you know, he kind of carries that same 188 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:37.159 sort of mystique, like he's just he's a he's an enigma, like he 189 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:39.840 is what he is. And I think Brendan Hunt sort of succinctly said that 190 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:45.919 when he was like Zava merely is Zava, Like he has no regard for 191 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:48.440 the small things that a coach might try to do, but he has no 192 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.360 disregard. He's just a force unto himself essentially, you know, he's and 193 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.240 I think that's one of the things you see in in episode three is that 194 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:58.679 when we very first meet Zava, it's almost like, oh, is this 195 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:03.600 just like a Jamie Tart one point zero on steroids? Like a diva who 196 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.279 only cares about himself, And then as you get into episode three you realize 197 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:11.240 this is a very different thing. Like they're both hugely talented, and of 198 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:15.879 course Zava's a little bit of a diva as well, but like you said, 199 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.120 the charisma and the way that he attracts people to himself as something that 200 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.480 one point oh Jamie never had. So you know what was the process of 201 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.720 for you and the writers and the creative team of just like making sure, 202 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:28.440 okay, this is distinct enough, Like this is a different this is not 203 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:33.399 just a Jamie one point oh retread. Yeah, well, the thing is 204 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:37.480 like it was like, it's two things. I remember Brendan m The first 205 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:39.919 day I kind of really got to like even just chat with him about Zava 206 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:46.799 was the day I showed up to film the Veggie Dog Vigilante scene and he 207 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:50.200 says something to me there that kind of like was like, oh, yeah, 208 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.000 yeah, that makes sense, he said. You know, like like 209 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.159 like Michael Jordan when he retired from basketball and then went to go play for 210 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:00.759 the White Sox, he was like he was part of the team. He 211 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:05.919 wrote the team bus, but his hotel was different, you know other players, 212 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:11.600 that's right, Like Jamie's at a different place in his career than Zava. 213 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:16.679 Like like Brendan said, Zava's climbed the mountaintop several times, you know 214 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:20.120 one trophy. Yeah, yeah, it was a legacy already. Yeah. 215 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:26.080 Yeah, he doesn't he doesn't need to prove himself to anyone anymore. Um, 216 00:15:26.559 --> 00:15:31.000 you know, for him, he's I think he's just looking for a 217 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.519 new challenge in his in his life and at this point as a career, 218 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:37.559 which I read a lot with a lot of these guys when they've peaked and 219 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.759 they've been at a peak for a long time, like they kind of for 220 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:45.679 them like family matters at that point a lot. What where can I play 221 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:48.600 that makes my family happy? You know, I've made my money, I've 222 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:54.320 created a name for myself. And sometimes you're like not to get to like 223 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:58.440 psychoanalytical, but like these players, sometimes they're made to can feel like, 224 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:03.759 you know, you've played for so long that you end up just being like 225 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:08.279 this piece that people want to trade, right be on a team, and 226 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:12.320 you know, when you're starting out that's exciting. You want everyone to want 227 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:17.080 you and fight for you. But once you've you've done everything you've ever dreamt 228 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:22.720 of and you've reached this glorious like pinnacle in your sports career, you know 229 00:16:22.879 --> 00:16:26.360 that game doesn't fill you up with anything, and the stuff that grounds you 230 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.279 in life is what really matters. And that kind of like it kind of 231 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:33.279 helped me like ground the character and his motivation and why he would say this, 232 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:36.840 some of the stuff he would say, why he would behave the way 233 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:41.320 he would behave, why he would jump through different from all these different teams 234 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:42.840 as they describe him, because it for me it was really like the role 235 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:47.919 is so funny. You read all this stuff and on the surface you get 236 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:51.600 it, and on the surface the public when you hear people like Zlatan and 237 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:56.519 all these other players Ronaldo, they're switching teams. That's just what the headlines 238 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:57.960 say. So for me his act, I was like, all right, 239 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:03.759 that's what I would think too, but like why why they act that way? 240 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.319 What's something, what's a little deeper meaning behind why they would do that, 241 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:08.599 you know. So that's kind of how it helped, just to find 242 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:12.519 ground the role for myself and how the audience perceives it and how you guys 243 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:18.160 feel about it. That's entirely true for your experience. And it's none of 244 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.400 my business to tell you how to feel about him, you know, like, 245 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:23.319 I'm hopefully you're entertained by him, whether you love him or you hate 246 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:26.680 him, or you're like you don't know what you want to think about him, 247 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:30.799 that's that's true for you. So I try not to judge them the 248 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.759 character at all. You guys can do that, and we still we're still 249 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.559 going to get to know him a lot more to write. And I think 250 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:40.799 your portrayal is very honest, and you're acting it so well, because he 251 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:47.240 could be just a caricature or this cartoon or just come off as a villain. 252 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:49.480 But yeah, I think as the audience gets to know him, there 253 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:56.279 is something very lovable and endearing and charming about him that isn't just one note 254 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:00.079 of you know, the diva that's coming in just or all the goals there. 255 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.799 You know, clearly the team has some admiration for him, and I 256 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:07.759 think that goes a long way for the audience too, because it is a 257 00:18:07.799 --> 00:18:14.400 show that's so heavily based on this dynamic of the ensemble. Right So, 258 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:18.799 coming into this show that was so well gelled, I guess as an ensemble, 259 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:23.400 was that something you felt like was particularly difficult or was there someone who 260 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:27.079 kind of made you feel like a literal part of the team right away? 261 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:32.559 Well, in general, it's always as an actor who comes in to Rick 262 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:34.960 her a guest st are and something that's one of the hardest jobs to do 263 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:40.240 because you come in and there's a regular cast that's been on the show, 264 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:44.640 even just one full season lettle in two or three, and with this show 265 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:49.759 specifically two amazing seasons with you know, adulation and awards and everything. So 266 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:53.599 it's always a come in. It's like that that second third removed cousin who 267 00:18:53.599 --> 00:19:00.559 gets invited to thanks coming in. The room's kind of quiet. But so 268 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:07.000 I've I've I've experienced that before, but coming onto this show was nothing like 269 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:08.920 that. Like I was a little bit like, all, I wonder what 270 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:12.680 everyone's gonna be like, and you know, they all seem really great on 271 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:17.680 the show, and you hear him and interviews or podcasts, they seem really 272 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:19.359 lovely, but you never know, You never know, do you know what 273 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:23.519 I mean? Yea? And I came in and like I started going on 274 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:27.359 the costume fittings first, and I started meeting everyone in, like all the 275 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:32.839 guys from the team, like Phil and to Heab and Caller and Billy and 276 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:37.000 Christo. They like knocked down my dressing room door introduced themselves and we're like 277 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:41.559 so pumped to meet the guy who's gonna plead playing Zava and we were all 278 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:45.799 like laughing about the clothes. It just felt very welcoming and like there was 279 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.720 no egos. There was no like, oh, who's this guy who was 280 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:52.359 playing this guy, you know, one of the top strikers in the world 281 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:55.519 on the show, Like what does he think he is? It was everyone 282 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:59.440 was as nice as they come off on the show, to the point where 283 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:00.720 I came home. I think I told the story a few times where I 284 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:07.720 came home and told my wife, Babe, everyone is really nice. Asshole 285 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:12.759 ahole you know, like when you're playing poker and you can't find the sucker 286 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:18.680 at the table, that means you're the sucker. So I couldn't have felt 287 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:23.279 more welcomed and just comfortable. Hannah was wonderful the first time I met her. 288 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:27.759 A funny story, we were filming that Chelsea scene and we hadn't really 289 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.519 chattered and said hi to each other at all, but I had filmed a 290 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:36.119 zavo walking into the stadium with the hands up, and then they were doing 291 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:38.240 the reaction, and after we wrapped that, we were just a little video 292 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:41.880 village, and you know, I just said, Hey, I'd like to 293 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.240 induce myself. You know, I terrific work on the show. We've been 294 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:49.160 fans and you deserve all the accolades. You've gotten a pleasure to work with 295 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:52.759 you. And she was like, oh, Darling. At this point, 296 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:56.480 I just come to said and I just hope please don't fuck it up. 297 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:02.279 You know that. I sure, you know the third season now to two 298 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:06.039 seasons of awards and everything, so that no one is resting on their laurels. 299 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:10.039 You know, they're all words as if this is day one on episode 300 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:12.039 one, season one, like everyone wants to do the best they can. 301 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:18.680 It's everyone top from Jason all the way down to the pas grabbing coffee, 302 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.440 like everyone's just happy to be there and enjoying everything. Walk us through the 303 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:26.680 your experience at the premiere a little bit, because you come and you do 304 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:29.960 the blue carpet thing and people are taking your pictures. A lot of the 305 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.519 guests impress at that point, you know, probably don't know exactly what your 306 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:37.279 role is going to be or entail. The lights go down, everybody watches 307 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:41.160 the first two episodes and they watch it like on a movie screen, and 308 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.880 so it's this different experience. And you get to the end of episode two 309 00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:51.599 and you've had at least two like really memorable important scenes. The lights come 310 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:53.960 up, and now like everybody recognizes you as, Oh, you're that guy. 311 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.920 What's going through your head as you're talking to all of these strangers beforehand? 312 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.680 And then what's the experience like after everybody gets to see those first two 313 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:08.720 episodes. Actually, when I did the press line, the actual press got 314 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:12.640 four episodes, I think the first four, so they already knew who I 315 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:17.640 was playing and I had seen it, so that kind of actually made that 316 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:22.160 whole blue carpet thing way easier. Instead of just showing up, They're like, 317 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:26.279 why are we taking photos of this guy right to talk to him? 318 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:32.000 So that that made a little bit more relaxing because everyone's like, oh, 319 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:33.559 hey, you know you're this, like, tell us about that. And 320 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:37.200 I was just nervous because I had no idea what like like they told me. 321 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:40.519 But I was just like, I don't know how much I can talk 322 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:45.240 about And people are telling you, like this, this outlet knows they've seen 323 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:48.160 the first four episodes. You can talk to them. This one's only seen 324 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:52.200 the first two. Don't mention anything about the three and there's but you know, 325 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.119 reporters ask and they dig. So I was just more nervous about not 326 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:57.680 ruining anything. But yeah, when the lights came up, that was that 327 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:00.240 was That was fun too, because a lot of people in the audience maybe 328 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:06.680 didn't really know who I was because they hadn't seen for the episodes, and 329 00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:11.759 it seemed like people really enjoyed, enjoyed them the first two episode of the 330 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:15.759 season and the character. And you know, if you can make a room 331 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:19.920 full of people laugh, you're just like you can breathe easy a little bit. 332 00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:22.359 Especially with a role like this, you're like Jesus, you know, 333 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.400 I just hope it doesn't fall flat. Um, But and again, how 334 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:30.599 could it, Like you work with guys like Jason Brett and Brendan like they 335 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.720 don't want to let anyone fail, you know, and if you just trust 336 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:37.440 them, then you know, let it happen. So yeah, it was. 337 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:41.000 It was great. It was surreal to be at the premiere to answer 338 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:45.680 your question quickly, and the blue carpet was a little easier because people had 339 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:49.559 known why I was standing on the blue carpet. But yeah, there's definitely 340 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:53.680 a different effect once it's aired. Where people saw on the after party. 341 00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:56.279 Was it was nice? It was nice. Well, I want to circle 342 00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:00.119 back to kind of what Christian mentioned about the You have kind of these two 343 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.880 major scenes in episode two, and I would say, just based on the 344 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:07.960 internet reaction alone, the urinal scene is going to pass into like television lore 345 00:24:08.119 --> 00:24:12.160 as like one of the most powerful, like hilarious scenes, and especially like 346 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:15.839 you have Hannah Wattingham. She's just a force, right, And I had 347 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.960 read somewhere I think that originally there was more dialogue for Zava in that moment, 348 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:22.599 but once you all filmed it, like the day of filming, maybe 349 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:25.680 someone came, maybe Jason came and said like, hey, actually, like 350 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:27.880 just don't say anything. She's just gonna like kind of steamroll you. And 351 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:32.200 then leave, and so what was it like kind of experiencing that because that's 352 00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:34.799 like sort of Zava's first big moment and then you know, your dialogue disappears, 353 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:38.440 but it adds this wonderful bit of mystery. But kind of what was 354 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.000 that situation? Like, yeah, no, that's a great story. So 355 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.480 Jason came like on paper. When I got the script, I read that 356 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:52.039 scene and now I was like dying, especially with the pe underneath the scene, 357 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.960 and I was just pinching myself on my arm. So lucky that I 358 00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:00.960 get to work with. These guys are brilliant. This is hilarious, and 359 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:04.119 the and the dialogue between them was really funny. And the day we were 360 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:08.200 filming the Chelsea stuff was actually the day before the bathroom scene, so this 361 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:11.839 is a day ahead. We filmed the Chelsea stuff. And then Jason came 362 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.519 up to me, um, you know, and he has that ted lapso 363 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:21.079 mustache and stuff, and he's always like he's very focused as as like a 364 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.599 creator of the show and all about the work, which actually put me at 365 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:29.279 ease because you forget who you're talking to and who you're around. It's just 366 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:33.119 like boom, we jump into the work. But he came up and he 367 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:36.440 was like, hey, man, I was thinking like, maybe we keep 368 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:40.079 his off a bit bit more of a mystery, and I kind of just 369 00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:44.079 I'm thinking, Hannah should just like say this whole thing and you don't say 370 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:47.720 anything. This is I think this is like day one or day two of 371 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:51.759 me filming, because previously I did the Leggie Dog would you lan anything? 372 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:55.440 Which is pretty quick, and in my head, I'm like, oh Jesus, 373 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:56.400 and you know, to Jason, I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, 374 00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:00.640 yeah absolutely. In my head, I'm like, fun, you think 375 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:04.440 I sucked. We didn't even rehearse it him, give him giving us a 376 00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:11.119 shot to like say it all out. You know, maybe I just maybe 377 00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.880 I'm somehow. But I went home and I looked at the they sent the 378 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.240 provided stuff, and I was like, this is actually better. You know. 379 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:25.559 I think Show Don't Tell is like one of the main things you talk 380 00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:29.440 about when you're doing film and TV um and when we filmed it, it 381 00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:33.920 just felt great, like why would he say anything? And I think it 382 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:40.240 keeps a him really mysterious. He still has his status and it gives in 383 00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:45.240 Hannah just nailed that that speech, and the whole time I was just trying 384 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:52.920 to keep it together, and especially in that asparagus line. Yeah, but 385 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:55.680 when I saw in the theater for the first time, when I saw EP 386 00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:59.519 two, I was like, as a brilliant choice, Like he doesn't need 387 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:03.200 to say hey, anything, and Hannah's it's Hannah's moment. It's like Hannah's 388 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.079 time to like, you know, grab grab him by the balls and like 389 00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:11.599 tell him the truth. And you know, it still works. It still 390 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:17.000 motivates him to go to Richmond, and it still keeps him high status and 391 00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.000 a bit mysterious because you know, I got the glasses on and everything. 392 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.599 So I thought it was like the best choice because on paper things are funny, 393 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.839 right, But when I put him in real life and you do him 394 00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.480 and these see them on screen like it, it might not work. And 395 00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:33.200 I think that's the brilliance of these guys, is Jason. All these guys 396 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:38.400 know that, and they keep everything flexible and they leave room the day of 397 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:42.960 filming for some magic and inspiration to happen. So a lot of the stuff 398 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.319 you've seen in the show, which I discovered quickly, like, is discovered 399 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:51.519 and played with while you're shooting, sometimes in between takes. And I think 400 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:55.400 that was like something I've never experienced that on a set before, you know, 401 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:59.720 and you can chalk it up to Jason's snel experience and the writer's room 402 00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.200 and experience, but yeah, I loved I thank god they cut my lines. 403 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.039 I know that. I never think I'd say it out loud, but 404 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.440 yeah, well, and it takes. It takes a cast of people who 405 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.160 you know are sort of humble enough to serve the content, you know, 406 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:17.079 are to serve the story being told. And that's like, I think that's 407 00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.519 something that you know, we've talked to a handful of cast and creative folks 408 00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:23.119 from the show now, and that just that seems to be an overarching kind 409 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.480 of echoing thing that we hear is like yes, like those things happen, 410 00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:30.200 and in the moment you're kind of like okay, like hope it works. 411 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.640 And then you see the finished product and you're like, yes, like brilliant 412 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.599 because I assume we are going to sort of find out Zava's motivations and it's 413 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:41.599 going to be in a way that's way more interesting. But then you just 414 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.559 get this, like you find the second laugh right, like we are laughing 415 00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:47.480 at the asparagus line, and then Zava liked to have this beat and then 416 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:51.400 sniffs, which is like killed me. I died, so like like you 417 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:53.559 get the extra laugh anyway, you know, so good? Thank you? 418 00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:57.279 Yeah, yeah, I know it was yeah Hannah. I mean that's all 419 00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:03.359 Hannah's work. I just had to stand there and try not to laugh not 420 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:11.920 to laugh. Yeah, you mentioned costuming earlier. How fun was it to 421 00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:18.319 do costuming for Zambo and did you get to have any input into his personal 422 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.839 style? Costume? Was a lot of fun, and I like, very 423 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.440 luckily I did get to have a little bit of input into the costuming. 424 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:33.319 Jackie what the Jackie Levy, the costume designer, was fantastic to collaborate with. 425 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.440 She wanted to. She asked me, what do you think, Like, 426 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:40.920 here's some options. What are you feeling like? We were texting different 427 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.079 looks for him, especially the first step, and a lot was changing. 428 00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:48.319 I remember in the original episode two, the way they interest Zamba wasn't the 429 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:51.319 veggie dog vigilante. It was like he was doing like some watch commercial with 430 00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:55.160 the shirt open and stuff. So we were fitting that and then next day 431 00:29:55.160 --> 00:30:00.799 it changed, and then we suddenly found ourselves looking for something like that made 432 00:30:00.839 --> 00:30:04.359 sense for the vigie dog vigilanti, veggie dog vigilante part of me. But 433 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:11.599 like the yellow shoes, I'm wearing the high top shoes that I brought that 434 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.960 idea in because I bought these, the short top version of those, and 435 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.799 I was in Paris and I just thought these kind of work. And I 436 00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:21.799 saw the high tops and I was like, Jackie, what do you think 437 00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:23.680 of these? But the high tops for Zava like the kind of flashy, 438 00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.680 They're very bright, and she brought them. She brought the idea to the 439 00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:32.599 guys and they signed off and they loved it. And then we were trying 440 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:37.200 on these different jackets. I remember I tried on this like really bright colored 441 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.920 purple rainbow which fur coat, and I told Jackie, this feels more like 442 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:47.799 mc lemore to me, that you know, And then we found that jacket 443 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.400 um and I loved the fur collar. I thought of him as like this 444 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:55.599 lion, viewed himself as like a lion. I love the sheep. And 445 00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:57.359 you know, Jackie loved it, and she brought it to the guys and 446 00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:00.799 they they thought it was great. I think I read somewhere that the guys 447 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.960 kind of said, like they like to let the actress kind of their instincts 448 00:31:06.039 --> 00:31:08.720 kind of guide where the clothing takes them. And it felt that way to 449 00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:12.799 me when I walked down the show, and Jackie being kind enough to like 450 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:18.640 want to hear out my ideas was really nice. Um, so it felt 451 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:25.200 really collaborative and like I had a little bit of input as to what Zavo 452 00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:32.039 might wear when and even how I'm looking forward to the drop of the Zava 453 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:36.559 and Zava and Zava and Zava T shirt, Like I'm for sure buying one 454 00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:40.799 of those when that happens, and if not, we're buying a cricket and 455 00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:47.200 making our you guys notice those shirts. That's great. Yeah, we had 456 00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:51.839 deposit well to your point too about the costuming, is I think I before 457 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:53.799 season three. This might have been between season one and two or maybe two 458 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.279 and three, but I have seen Jackie Levy in an interview say you know 459 00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:01.799 that they sort of asked them of those initial core group of players to like 460 00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:06.039 think about a footballer that inspired them or that they felt some sort of connection 461 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:07.440 too, and then they were able to sort of draw from that. And 462 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:12.359 so especially these days, there's a wealth of fashion to choose from when it 463 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.279 comes to looking at footballer, So that's yeah, you know, and I 464 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.839 don't wear yeah, I don't wear Versacci shirts and stuff like that, like 465 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.799 you know, I'm like black shirts. He should kind of guys. So 466 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.359 that was a lot of fun to just you know, Jackie Plant, what 467 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:31.160 about this Versacci shirt or this you know name the designer top and the coat. 468 00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:36.279 And I was like, geez, yeah, sure, yeah, high 469 00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:37.599 fashion. It was nice. It was fun. It's fun and when you 470 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:40.319 get to play role like that, you just lean into it and you just 471 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:44.039 try to own it. You know. I always told myself, I gotta, 472 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.279 you know, for this role, like I, I have to wear 473 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:52.240 the coat. The coat can't wear meat, you know. So you don't 474 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:53.920 want to look like an actor in the costume. I look like the character. 475 00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:57.440 That's the coat he wants to wear, and he rocks it, you 476 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:01.039 know, right. Part of the cost doing is, you know, the 477 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:06.920 shirt comes off in one of your most iconic bits and we see the giant 478 00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:12.759 tattoo on your back. Brett is dying to know if you know, whose 479 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:17.079 idea was to use Jesus Christ superstar in that scene for the music? Yeah, 480 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:21.440 I don't know. You don't want a script usually though, in this 481 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:23.440 in this show. In the script, they would say, you know, 482 00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:29.240 this is happening, and underneath we have like six differentists, different songs they 483 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.599 possibly want to use for it, and it was funny and other ones I 484 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:35.759 think they use in the montage, and three was actually on in the script 485 00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:40.680 again like they'll change it based on what fits as the as the show gets 486 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:47.799 formed. I don't know whose idea that was wasn't mine. I loved it, 487 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.440 yeah yeah. And the tattoo, yeah, I remember. The tattoo 488 00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:55.440 was a big thing because I originally wanted to have, um, some sleeves 489 00:33:55.640 --> 00:34:00.400 tattoo sleeves here and stuff, and then we would have the tattoo on the 490 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:07.359 back. But I just I think they like those two things. It's less 491 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:08.800 time in the chair for me, right, So I don't want to do 492 00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:12.760 the sleeves. And I think they wanted to do that reveal of the tattoo 493 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.639 on the back, like make it count right, make it once, and 494 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:20.760 make it special, which I think then I'm just paid off, which was 495 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:22.960 hilarious. Oh boy, did it? Yeah? Yeah yeah. And so 496 00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:27.719 we were working on the design of the tattoo, you know, kind of 497 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.920 like I was pitching some ideas and then I think Brendan was working on some 498 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:36.159 ideas, if I'm not mistaken, And then NICKI Austin costume, Aaron makeup, 499 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.480 help help execute it. And you know, I'm glad you guys liked 500 00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:45.719 it a brilliant You mentioned that you speak some Polish. You're also skilled enough 501 00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:51.119 in folk dance to have folk danced for Pope John Paul. The second, 502 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:57.000 how did you get that opportunity? Why are you bringing that up? Well, 503 00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.960 first of all, I'm not skilled enough to go dance for Poke. 504 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:06.039 Done that? That gave grown up guy. We gotta cut the interview short. 505 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.880 That's it, all right, so very quickly. I grew up in 506 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:15.039 Chicago. It is a very heavy Polish neighborhood. My mom, because we 507 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.880 immigrated, wanted to make sure that he was in touch with my Polish roots. 508 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:21.800 So I went to Polish school. You know, I did the Polish 509 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.599 Boy Scouts. You know, they made me play piano like every Polish kid. 510 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:30.119 Yet it was to learn. And then when I was in the boy 511 00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:31.239 Scouts, I met a friend and he was like, hey, man, 512 00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.199 do you want to meet some girls. There's a lot of girls in this 513 00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.880 Polish folk dance group. And we don't have enough. Guy. I think 514 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:39.360 I was like thirteen fourteen. I was like, yeah, yeah, let's 515 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:45.719 do it. And before I knew it, I was wearing a folk costume 516 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:50.960 with an ostrich feather sticking out of me and black leather boots to my knees, 517 00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:55.280 like dancing away. And this folk group kind of had a bit of 518 00:35:55.360 --> 00:36:00.599 like a footprint in Chicago, and I have no idea how they finagled this, 519 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:06.559 but we got to travel to Rome to do like a pilgrimage that was 520 00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:08.519 Israel. Sorry, we traveled to Israel after that. But we went to 521 00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:13.760 Rome and we danced in like this general audience with the pope you know when 522 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:17.320 he does masks, and in the Vatican with one hundred thousands of people. 523 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:23.679 And then the head of the group knew one of the cardinals or bishops, 524 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:29.599 and she requested if we could do a private dance for him in his home 525 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.360 in kester Gundorfo And like two days later he says, yes, he would 526 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:37.920 love to have you guys over. So like fourteen years old, I'm going 527 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:44.719 to the pope out John Paul, you know, is famous Polish pope, 528 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:50.280 and we found ourselves. We did two dances for him, and he was 529 00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:53.880 so funny and he was cracking jokes about Chicago, and he shook everyone's hand 530 00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:59.000 and we got to meet him and we took photos with him. So it 531 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:02.480 wasn't necessarily like you have to audition for the group like group and then the 532 00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:07.679 group has the audition. It was I don't know. I don't know who 533 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.199 she knew to ask and how he did it, but I know that we 534 00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:15.079 were like the third Polish folk dance group in history to dance for him, 535 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:20.119 and our pictures somewhere in the Vatican Museum. That's like my little that's my 536 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.199 little, like you know, ice Breaker. When I meet do interviews or 537 00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.039 meeting new people and they're like, did you folk dance for the Pope? 538 00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:35.800 I'm like, one of the reasons just to meet girls. One of the 539 00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.599 reasons I asked the question is because Tom Hendrick, who plays O'Brien on ted 540 00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:45.440 Lasso, he is quite the accomplished Polish folk dancer and I saw today on 541 00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:51.719 his Instagram he's at like a UK Polish folk festival and he's like in the 542 00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:55.159 outfit and dancing and everything. Did the two of you find occasion to have 543 00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.599 a dance off at any point between scenes. Is that's something he lunched two, 544 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.760 Yeah, we did, and we we pitched it to Jason and he 545 00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.679 loved it, and we filmed the scene with Zava and his character folk dance 546 00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:14.960 off in the locker room and then they just cut it. You can't wait 547 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:19.480 till we get that blooper reel. We could not have. We did hit 548 00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.199 it off the right away, like I can. We you know, I 549 00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.800 think he can tell from my last name Ossinski And he was like, hey, 550 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:28.159 you know, brother, do you speak Polish? And I was like 551 00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.199 yeah, and I started speaking Polish and he started speaking Polish and we were 552 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.599 just it was nice. And then you know, he told me he folk 553 00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:36.519 dance and I was like, oh my god, I did that too. 554 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:39.400 You know, I stopped stopped about sixteen. But I think you should ask 555 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:45.800 him. He's like the professional folk dancer that he probably should have been at 556 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:51.760 the Pope's house, not me. But he's terrific. He's a wonderful guy. 557 00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:54.480 And yeah, he lives in London, so we keep in touch. 558 00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:59.239 It's interesting how your stories your introductions to folk dance line up too, because 559 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.199 when we talked to him, I think he expressed that his family also wanted 560 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.960 him to stay connected to his Polish roots, and that he also like sort 561 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:07.800 of he was like, it was a great way to meet girls when you 562 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:10.119 were like a teenager. So you know that's you know, there you go, 563 00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.599 who do Polish folk dancing? Who are you? Yeah? I mean 564 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:22.239 I don't think I got a girlfriend out of it. Poulse advertising that they 565 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:28.320 weren't interested in the guys, and you know Ostrich feather Caps shocker. Yeah, 566 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:32.079 You've mentioned your wife teaching a couple of times, and y'all worked together 567 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.039 on Agents of Shield And now you're both in Apple TV plus shows. You're 568 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:43.840 in Tulasso and she is in Severance. Which one of you landed with Apple 569 00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:50.760 TV Plus first? She got Severance, Um, yeah, I think we're 570 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:53.760 still in la like just coming out of lockdown. So she got that first, 571 00:39:54.079 --> 00:40:00.559 um right around and she was still to film Jurassic World. Oh yeah, 572 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:01.920 yeah, yeah, yeah, So she was first. And then obviously 573 00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.800 yeah, I told you guys, Yeah, I didn't get it till a 574 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.960 year. I didn't get it on to the last until a year or later. 575 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:13.000 The two shows are maybe opposite in tone, but one of the things 576 00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:17.639 that they both really hinge on our reveals and surprises and so what's it like 577 00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:24.440 to watch your respective shows with each other knowing that your spouse is going to 578 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:29.840 be surprised by something a secret that you're holding onto. I mean, I'm 579 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:34.599 just gratitude first of all. Like I pinched myself, like you're on an 580 00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:38.920 amazing Apple show that like people are excited to talk about, and I'm on 581 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:42.840 an amazing Apple show that people are excited to talk about. We just go 582 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.760 like we just try to remain like grateful and happy and we pinch ourselves and 583 00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.639 it's fantastic. I remember being one ted last and when the show premiered and 584 00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:53.639 then like Jeremy was welcome. Did you guys see that show? Severing's like 585 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:57.880 I really like it, and I'm like my wife's on it, and he 586 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.280 like his face lit up, like oh really, who is she? You 587 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:02.000 know She's like, oh my goodness, I love it so much, and 588 00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.039 you know, like it was a little bit surreal. Um. We try 589 00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:10.559 not to spoil things for each other, uh, you know, like I 590 00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:15.440 tried not to. I mean, I mean she knew kind of what I 591 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:19.639 was filming for for Zava. She would stay with me and like, you 592 00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:21.679 know, you come home like, how was your day. I'm not gonna 593 00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:28.760 say, I can't tell you where to tell me everything? And I would 594 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:30.320 say do you want to know? Or do you want to ruin it for 595 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:34.960 you? But it still hasn't taken the joy from her, like watching it 596 00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:39.320 on like come together and she yeah, for like, I didn't know. 597 00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:45.280 I didn't know how Severance was ending. So when I saw that, it 598 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.519 was fantastic and I was so happy for her. Um, yeah, and 599 00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.320 I'm really excited about season two. I haven't I haven't asked about what the 600 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:55.159 scripts are doing, you know, I just kind of know when they call 601 00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:59.119 her out when they're filming her, I was like, how's your day is, 602 00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:00.719 like, oh, we have to shoot this thing or something. I 603 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:02.199 was like, okay, but kind of just want to I don't I want 604 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:07.639 to be surprised, you know. Yeah, yeah, no spoilers here, 605 00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:10.880 but that that reveal at the end of Separate season one is like one of 606 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:15.199 my all time faves right now, and I get I guessed so loud. 607 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.440 I couldn't catch my breath. I was like, what, Oh my gosh, 608 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.199 it was Yeah, I'll take that as a compan I am ready. 609 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.079 I am like I feel like they could go so many I've tried to avoid 610 00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:28.880 like reading too much about season two, which there's not a ton anyway, 611 00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:30.960 but I'm like, I they could go so many places. I just want 612 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.920 to come into it like I came into the first season knowing really nothing, 613 00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:36.679 you know, like not knowing what was going to happen, kind of what 614 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.079 the mystery was, and just letting it all kind of like play out. 615 00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:45.519 Yeah, And to piggyback on that question, like what we're really great for 616 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:52.280 is like Ben Stiller in season one that was like his baby and it lasts 617 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.440 was Jason's baby. Yeah. The fact that we get to work with like 618 00:42:54.599 --> 00:43:00.559 these two guerrillas of of comedy and drama and directing, and you know, 619 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:04.199 I mean, I know Jason doesn't feel that way but about himself, but 620 00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:09.159 I mean he's he's so talented and multifaceted. You know, he can direct, 621 00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:14.360 he can act, he can write, And they're both like I remember 622 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.280 me and Deach and talking to each other, like they're both very specific and 623 00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:25.239 meticulous about their projects, irrespectively. And you get a sense from that um 624 00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:29.280 and it kind of and everyone else feeds off of that and you kind of 625 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:32.639 just have to go with the way they work. While it might be very 626 00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:36.800 different, but they're very specific people. And you know, she would tell 627 00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.360 me these stories about working with Ben and then I would tell his stories about 628 00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:42.400 working with Jason. I was like, oh my god, these you know, 629 00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:46.000 there's some similarities into it about them, even though they're very different people. 630 00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:51.639 But that's what's probably more crazier than we on Apple shows is that we 631 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.239 get to work with you know, she worked with him, and I got 632 00:43:54.320 --> 00:44:00.039 to work with Jason and Brendan and Brett Like, yeah, it's just spit 633 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.840 lucky, Like I don't know how that works. Yeah, I think this 634 00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.320 is true. A lot of Apple TV shows and streaming shows is just like 635 00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.440 the handmade sort of nature of the stories that we're just getting to experience as 636 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:15.360 viewers now, Like it just there's so many Yeah, you're just well you're 637 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:17.480 just seeing lots of different experiences reflected through the people who write them and who 638 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:21.199 are working on the shows, and it's it's just like, yeah, everything 639 00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:23.599 feels like we can We've there's so much TV now that we can be more 640 00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:28.519 personal and kind of tell more specific stories, and that's I think it's it's 641 00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.679 even it's enrichening that's not a word. It's making the storytelling more rich. 642 00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:36.440 Yeah, it gives you, you know, I think these streamers are allowing 643 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.719 some of these creators to explore deeper, meaningful stories. You know, ted 644 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:44.480 Lasso's supposed to be a comedy, but it's running at forty five fifteen minutes 645 00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:47.239 now, and is it a comedy? Sometimes it's not a comedy. Yeah. 646 00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:51.280 After season two premier, someone was like, I don't know when ted 647 00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:52.760 Lasso went from a half hour comedy to an hour long drama, but I 648 00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.199 hope it wins both awards, like you know something like that. Right, 649 00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:00.519 I think that's nice. I think that's nice. I think, um, 650 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.559 you know, I mean that's that's life. Man. Sometimes life is funny 651 00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:07.840 and then sometimes life is not funny. And I think when it's you know, 652 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.599 I get it while you want to tune into a multicam and just have 653 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.960 a good time. Absolutely, I think shows like this resonate because you have 654 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:21.119 room to like, like Jamie is great, Like his acting is fantastic and 655 00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:22.480 that you know, like first season you beat him was like, oh, 656 00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:27.760 this guy's kind of a hole. And he has that moment in the locker 657 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.519 room with its father, you know, and then like, holy shit, 658 00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:35.320 you know that resonates with people. You You asked like, what are your 659 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:43.639 favorite scenes? Like when Ted forgives Rebecca for for that article, that's amazing. 660 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:47.119 Biscuits, no barbecue sauce, it's on the dark. That scene you 661 00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:51.559 know that you can't really you can't put your thumb on that's like that's a 662 00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:54.320 comedy scene. That's a thing. But you know, when they do choose 663 00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.559 to do comedy, it's funny, like episode two when they're all trying to 664 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:02.360 feel like who's on first? That the locker room bit also is an amazing 665 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:12.119 to write a book about Trick krim died. Oh my god, that was 666 00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.920 the best moment. It's so good. It's Yeah. The project that you 667 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:22.960 and each and worked together on Agents of Shield probably doesn't get enough credit for 668 00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:28.199 kind of how influential it's been, Like it was the first of the weekly 669 00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:35.519 Marvel shows that then kind of fed into and interacted with the Marvel movies. 670 00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:40.199 To now have wrapped that show and to see everything that all these Marvel shows 671 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:46.639 have become, what's your kind of reflection on where Marvel's at and the opportunity 672 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:51.599 that y'all had to be a part of that in the early stages of what 673 00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:57.239 we now know is the Marvel Universe today. I mean, I'm grateful that 674 00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:01.719 that that show. I've done some conventions and stuff and met fans, and 675 00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:06.360 you know, you film a show and you're in a you're kind of in 676 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.400 a bubble. You're on set with the cast, and you go home and 677 00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:12.480 you come back and you're on set with the cast, and you can tend 678 00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:16.000 to kind of forget who you're filming it for and who's watching it and how 679 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:20.159 they feel about it. And then meeting the fans and just seeing how much 680 00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:24.880 it's meant to them and how much affection they have for these characters, and 681 00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:29.880 like even me, I would surprise me. It means a lot, and 682 00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:31.639 you kind of, you know, I think that's a whole Like a lot 683 00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:37.079 of these Marvel shows are like the world is fantastical. I think part of 684 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:40.800 the success with some of the shows and the movies is, like, you 685 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.039 know, people can still find a way to relate to them on a human 686 00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:49.639 level, and I think that's what adds to their success. So being a 687 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:53.320 part of that early Marvel TV show was, you know, it was a 688 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:55.760 blessing. It filmed in La. So I got to go home and see 689 00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.559 my my wife and kid, and I had just had my daughter when I 690 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:05.519 started on that show. So that job has a lot of special places in 691 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:08.800 my heart, you know, like a job being on that show getting to 692 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:13.280 those people, and the creators and the writers did a fantastic job. So 693 00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.199 yeah, I'm grateful, and it's exciting to see how it's evolved to the 694 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:20.440 movies and all the other shows. I mean, what do you how do 695 00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.079 you guys feel? Are you guys, are you guys tired of all the 696 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:27.239 Marvel shows? Is it too much? You know, I always know the 697 00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:30.679 people still respond to the show today if it came out versus when it did. 698 00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:35.960 Yeah, I mean it's kind of different because the seasons are longer and 699 00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:38.519 focuses on a bunch of different characters. But I know for me, like 700 00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:45.159 I have adolescent kids, and whereas not every Marvel movie is for them yet, 701 00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.599 Like they're not ready for that yet, right, Agents of Shield and 702 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:55.519 Agent Carter, like those are great intros into the Marvel world until they are 703 00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.000 ready for all of the movies and the more serious show. And so you 704 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:06.159 know the Agents of Shield and Lost which came before that, those to me 705 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:08.280 and my experience, were two of the first show that was like, Okay, 706 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:12.360 we have to figure out how to record this because I don't want to 707 00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.519 miss it, Like this is something that I don't want to miss every single 708 00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:20.119 week otherwise I'll be out of the loop. And those were some of the 709 00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.159 first shows that, yeah, like you do check out the message boards and 710 00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:25.840 people are talking about what's going to happen. And it was a little bit 711 00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.920 different too because the spoilers. Like the Internet, you could talk to a 712 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:35.360 bunch of people, but the spoilery stuff wasn't leaking as much yet, and 713 00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:37.599 so it really was more community based, whereas now, I know, even 714 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:42.199 for us until Lasso, like, we're kind of careful. We don't treading 715 00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.239 to read it that much anymore because you never know what you're going to find 716 00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:47.679 there, and we do want to experience the show and we try to make 717 00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:52.320 sure that we don't spoil things. Yeah, like I have a sentimental attachment 718 00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.280 to Agents of Shield and look forward to now watching it with my kids. 719 00:49:55.320 --> 00:50:00.239 It'll be fun. Well, Max, thank you so much for coming on 720 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.480 the show. It has been such a blast talking to you about your character 721 00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:06.719 and Ted Lasso, and we just so appreciate you man. Thank you, 722 00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:08.639 guys, thank you for having me. I hope but in ran too long, 723 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.280 But I'm flattered. You guys are fans of the show and I'm a 724 00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:17.360 fan of the show too, and it's fantastic to talk about a part that 725 00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:22.639 people are excited about and entertained with. So thank you. We absolutely are 726 00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.639 and cannot wait to see where Zava goes this season. So thank you and 727 00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:32.440 take care. Thank you guys, have a good one, and that is 728 00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:36.719 our show. We had a great time chatting with Max about his work on 729 00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:38.719 ted Lasso, as well as some of his other projects. You can find 730 00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:43.679 links to his social media and more in the show notes on our website ted 731 00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:46.880 lassopod dot com. We'll be back soon with more ted Lasso goodness, but 732 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.440 you can keep the conversation going with us on Twitter and Instagram in the meantime. 733 00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.960 Our handle on both platforms is at ted Lasso Pod. This episode of 734 00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:59.159 Richmond Till We Die It is brought to you by Gin and Kerosene Productions. 735 00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.320 It was produced by Marissa Christian and me. If you're enjoying our show, 736 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.719 please take thirty seconds to subscribe to our feed and give the show a five 737 00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.639 star review on Apple Podcasts or a five star rating on Spotify. Heck, 738 00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:14.000 if you're feeling generous, you could even do both. As always, we 739 00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:17.119 appreciate all the ways y'all share your love and support for the pod. Okay, 740 00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:22.239 I'm Brett signing off for Marissa Christian and Maxosinski. Thanks for listening. 741 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:31.840 Until next time, Cheers y'all. N Core nine