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We're back with another edition of the
Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emili Jashinski,

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culture editor here at the Federalist.
As always, you can email the show

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well. Today is super Bowl Monday,

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and in honor of super Bowl Monday, we are joined by Jake Crane,

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Blaine Crane, and David Cohne.
They're the hosts of Crane and Company,

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which I know many of our listeners
enjoy over at the Daily Wire. If

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you haven't checked it out yet,
make sure to check out Crane and Company.

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Jake, Blaine, David, Welcome
to the show. Hey, we're

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excited. Thanks for having us.
Emily. It should be a holiday today.

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It should be a holiday to day. You make us walk the super

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Bowl on Sunday and then go to
work on Monday. I don't think Paul

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Rivero rode that horse scream in the
British or companies we had to go to

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work the day after the super Bowl. Well, and also it should be

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federal law that if the game goes
into overtime. It is you have to.

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It is a human right to get
the day off if the I cannot

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agree with you. More love this, I love how this is starting right

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now. Hey guys, since it's
your first time on Federal Austradio Hour,

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could you each just tell us a
little bit about your background. We'll just

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go one by one and how you
ended up doing Crane and Company for the

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Daily Wire. Yeah. Well,
it's a crazy story. You know,

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we all coached and played at a
high level. I'll let them, you

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know, tell you their accolades.
But I played and coached in Division one

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for you know, almost a decade. And it's crazy. I was coaching

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when COVID happened and they sent us
all home and I was just messing around

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on a microphone about a fifty dollars
microphone. Didn't know what was good.

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I'm not Steve Jobs by any stretch
of the imagination. So just getting something

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on Apple Podcasts and Spotify was like
my Zuckerberg moment and it just took off.

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It's weird, think, Emily,
that I'm in a coma really like

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I got hit by a semi like
on some mountain road recruiting and I'm still

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in a coma. But it's it
was amazing. I ended up. You

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know, obviously, I've known my
brother his whole life, but I met

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David Cone when we started doing the
show on video and it just, you

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know, blew up from there.
We're less than four years in and we've

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seen incredible growth and just did a
movie. And I think it's because we

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keep sports about sports. To be
honest, yeah, I agree that.

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Well, I was born into an
extremely wealthy family, but I saw my

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parents skip killed in an alleyway outside
of a movie thing. From there on,

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you know, I'm scared to wait, hold on, I'm seeing a

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lot. I'm seeing a butler a
city at night. It's named Alfred.

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You know Alfred. I know alf
First off, How are you born into

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a wealthy family that'd have been nice
considered not your brother? Oh man.

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And I'm I'm David Cohne. I'm
a close cousin. That's why. Yeah,

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I tell people I'm from a small
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grew up loving football, got an
opportunity to play at the University of Michigan.

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Played quarterback there for four years,
and for some reason, none of

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the NFL teams drafted me, which
was their loss completely. So that led

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to a career in video production and
music production. I had ten years of

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experiencing that before I met Jake and
Blaine Crane. We really hit it off.

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It was like a band coming together. We joined Colin Kawher's network out

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the volume. Then Ben Shapiro reached
out uh that fall and asked us if

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we moved to Nashville and joined his
company, and we were already huge fans.

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So that's what Jake means when he
says it feels like a dream.

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And then all of a sudden,
we're starring in movies with him and with

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Jordan Peterson and Candae Owens and Matt
wallsh So that's that solidified the fact that

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we are in a dream that was
Ted Cruise erasure. But we'll let it

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slide for them. That's our that's
our buddy. Now, Yeah, play

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on two of them on. I
mean, I'm playing I'm playing two on

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two basketball with these guys and Ted
Cruz barefoot with an eighties rocker wig on

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and my name is DaVita. Yeah, me and Ted Cruz won that two

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on today. No, there was
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all, yes, okay, okay, well so that's you said that.

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It's you think a lot of the
popularity of the show has to do with

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the fact that you keep sports about
sports. So in the spirit of keeping

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sports about sports, guys, that
was you know, a pretty it was

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a good game. It was a
nail bider. You can't complain when the

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Super Bowl goes into overtime. I
love scoring Super Bowl. What are your

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thoughts basically on the game itself?
Again, a lot of defense. I

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know some people really love those high
scoring games. It's definitely not what people

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got last night. So give us
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a lot of points. The NFL
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you know, Major League Baseball,
just like you know NHL and the NBA

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and and you know, I'm a
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and there was some good defense being
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but I think a lot of it
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had multiple turnovers in the red zone. You had, you know, from

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the forty nine ers standpoint, some
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second and long, third and long. So while the defenses were playing well,

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you know, I thought the offense
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see, and we say this all
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plan and the scouting report is one
thing, but the coaches that are the

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best at what they do are the
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you saw those halftime adjustments. You
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just making the smart decision to throw
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outside of him, you know,
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But it ended up being a really
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picked it up. I enjoyed the
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to start. They kind of looked
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a big finish and you know,
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There you go, I did too. I agree with a lot of

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that. You can have a great
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get scored. Just so happened in
this game. We saw both defenses playing

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at an elite level and then you
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of penalties. Then you had two
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return that was also fumbled. But
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think, we had eight straight scoring
drives and you count over time. So

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look, anytime the Super Bowl comes
down to the last play, a lot

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of people are happy. Look we
live stream the game, and you could

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see the numbers more people jumping in
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the end. Well, yeah,
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Super Bowl were trash trap, boring, snoozefest. I don't think the defenses

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were playing phenomenal either. It looked
like sloppy football. But that's the thing

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about football. The only thing you
need is one quarter, just one.

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You just seed one quarter, especially
in the game like this in the Super

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Bowl, to bring everybody back inside
to sit down and watch the game.

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And that's what you got in the
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in the first quarter of overtime.
Okay, so you referenced Kelsey who went

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massively viral for shouting at Andy Reid. What did you guys make of that?

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I've seen some different theories, but
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Well, and you know, we
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Look, when you get to the
professional level, it's a lot different

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than college. The players are making
more than the coaches. There's not a

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lot of coaches screaming at players.
It's more of a friend relationship. And

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look, guys get fired up.
I've seen Patrick Mahomes pitch a fit on

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the sidelines. I've seen Tom Brady
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sidelines do out different courses of the
game, But where it becomes a promise

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when you start putting your hands on
somebody, Because in coaching we had a

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rule You're not going to put your
hands on me. I'm not going to

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put my hands on you, because
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totally different level. So I thought, and I think Travis will tell you

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this too him. You know,
I don't think he intentionally tried to kind

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of bowl Andy Reid over, but
Travis Kelsey is a big guy, and

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it went a little bit too far
the shouting. That's one thing. Hey,

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let's break an iPad, let's break
a tablet. Get back together.

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You start putting your hands on me, then we're going to play a game

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of let's find out now. Hopefully
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get beat to sleep unless I use
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that was a little over the line
for me. Yeah, I don't think

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Travis Kelsey meant to physically put his
hands on Andy Reid, but you know,

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sometimes it happens even without intent.
The narrative completely shifts when the Chiefs

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win that game, because if the
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sudden, you're like, man,
these guys were more focused on Taylor Swift

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and you know there's problems in Kansas
City's locker room. Whereas when they win

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the football game, we say like, oh yeah, that's what it takes

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sometimes for the greatest of all time
to get motivated. This We're an eighteen

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year old kid who's never made any
plays and he goes up and he's putting

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his hands on the coach. Of
course, it's going to be like the

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most extremely disrespectful act that you can
imagine. But we're talking about a top

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five greatest tight end of all time
and the top five greatest coach of all

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time. I don't think there was
anyone happier than Andy Reid that Travis Kelcey

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got that emotional about not being in
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in the first half on the offensive
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whatever happened on the sidelines that we
saw was a microcosm. And like Kelsey

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did in the locker room at halftimes, emotion's part of football. The two

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just coerced together. But I will
say this one. I mean, look,

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Travis Kelsey had one yard receiving walking
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Pretty sure he only had two,
only had two targets in key moments as

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well. They keep taking them out
of the game. But look, Maynard,

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Travis kelce dog your girls at the
game. I mean, you got

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it all out too. If you
don't win, will Taylor Swift even be

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around? Yeah, let's be on. You had to win that Super Bowl

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to make sure Taylor Swift's going to
be there will when it's over. Amazing.

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How did the season compare? For
we do like expectations versus reality to

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what you guys expected to see from
those I mean a lot of people could

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have predicted at least the Chiefs in
the Super Bowl, But what did you

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now that we can sort of look
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it compare to what you expected?
Well, I honestly thought, and look,

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I think college football is a better
product. I think we can all

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agree. I thought it had its
ups and downs. I think the Lions

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were a great story. C J. Stroud and the Texans doing what they

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did, the Browns finally making the
playoffs but in Cleveland Flash and getting out

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in the first round. You know, I honestly think and I know the

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Chiefs. A lot of people picked
the Chiefs before the year. It's Patrick

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Mahomes. I think this is Andy
Reid's best coaching job. I think to

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be able to not only win,
but win for a long time, to

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have these dynastical runs, that's the
biggest word I know, Emily, so

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I had to use it. You've
got to be able to win in multiple

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ways. I always say the bestility
outside of fertility is versatility. And the

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Chiefs defensive team they won the Super
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It wasn't just you know, some
high flying offense that outscored everybody.

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They found different ways to win without
as many superstars around Patrick Mahomes and being

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led by the side of the ball
that did not include Patrick Mahomes. I

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mean, one of the greatest stats. And we talk about adjusting, you

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know, mid game. The Chiefs
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half like the last ten games.
That is absolutely incredible. That is absolutely

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dominant. And we saw the Patriots
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on their run. They'd win some
games high scoring, they'd win some games

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on defense and special teams. It
just goes to show you football is the

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ultimate team sport. On the teams
that can win in the most ways win

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the most. I think we can
all agree that the Chiefs were unimpressive for

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the most part regular season, and
that's the thing and the greatest of all

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time mentality shows up biggest in those
those biggest games. And you look at

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the last three games they won.
When they go on the road Buffalo,

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they were underdogs, goal on the
road, beat a team in Baltimore that

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we thought was unbeatable. They were
underdogs. And here they were underdogs in

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the Super Bowl and they win that
one too. And it's just funny to

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me that the backbone of this Chief's
dynasty has been the offense. The greatest

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tight end of all time generational quarterback
every five coach. You know, when

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they trade Tyreek Hill and for that
what they get defensive pieces. They got

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an edge guy in a corner for
those picks that they got. And it

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was this young defense and Steve Spagnola
that really showed up throughout the course of

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the season. I know, Patrick
Mahomes leads the game winning drive and wins

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MVP, and that's what everyone's going
to remember from this particular game. But

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man, this defense, they didn't
give up over twenty seven points all season

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long. That's ridiculous. I think
the more things change, the more things

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stay the same. Who I mean, obviously the Chiefs being in the Super

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Bowl, I mean here to question
that in Cal Shanahan blowing the Super Bowl.

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I mean, the guys won twenty
five point lead, a ten point

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lead, and another ten point lead
in the Super Bowl. Let's be honest.

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I mean, if it walks like
a duck in quacks like a duck,

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it's a duck. And kl Shanahan's
the biggest show artist in Super Bowl.

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Well, Emily, we said,
I don't know what's stunk worse.

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Kyle Shanahan's second half play calling for
San Francisco are the streets and sidewalks.

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He's as about as clutch as a
screen door in the summer. I didn't,

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I didn't the little digit leads and
that is insane. Point talk to

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us about the play calling, then
what should a shanahana have been calling more

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of? Well, it's it.
Look, you can always look back at

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the play calling. Hindsight's always twenty
twenty. But it seems whenever Kyle Shanahan

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has a common sense answer to something, he does the opposite. You go

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back to the Patriots when he was
the OC at the Falcons, You're leading

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the Pats twenty eight to three in
the second half, and you come out

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and throw the ball, throw the
ball, throw the ball, throw the

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ball and stop the clock instead of
running the ball. Well, the Niners

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were leaning on the Chiefs late in
that game. It looked like that the

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Chiefs were starting to get tired on
defense and on first down all he kept

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doing is running play action and throwing
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Christian McCaffrey aka Haru the Great White
Ninja and letting him take you to the

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Promised Land. It just seems like
if it's smart to go right, he'll

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go left. If it's smart to
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mean, I understand being a contrarian, scared money, don't make no money,

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but stupid money leaves you broke too
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seven points in the second half to
Josh Allen and the Bills. They gave

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up three points in the second half
to the MVP and Lamar Jackson with the

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Ravens. So from Kyle Shanahan's perspective, you had to know the Chiefs were

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going to make their adjustments at halftime. And Kyle Shanahan makes his money the

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fifteen million a year for being one
of the most elite play callers in the

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league. And they come out in
the second half and they have three straight

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three and outs, and on at
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two of them, Christian McCaffrey didn't
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the ball to your best player.
Yeah, two possessions, and they're really

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key possessions, and they were in
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them was coming off with Patrick Mahomes
pick where they didn't run the ball one

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time. And what's been always a
knock on College Shanahan. He doesn't run

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the ball when he knows he needs
a run a ball. It's a common

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sense play. But at this point, is Kyle Shanahan the worst best coach

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ever? And we want to talk
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mind. I mean, when it
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to get six points when it mattered
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I will say I think there's time
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Andy Reid and Philadelphia. People talked
about that a lot too when he had

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Donovan McNabb. Always these really good
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Now look at him, all of
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now Andy reachs past Belichick and he's
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Especially when we look at the way
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the forty nine ers and they're gonna
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these key pieces. They can't pay
everyone, but their quarterback is still on

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a rookie contract. They're going to
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Whereas the AFC. You look around, you know, Jim Harboss coming into

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coaching starters. You know, Josh
Allen's still going to win one. Joe

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Burrow is going to get healthy.
Lamar Jackson looks like he's here for a

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couple more seasons healthy, So it's
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Yeah, I like that. The
worst best coach, that's like being well,

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it's like Emily really like the smartest
dumb people like Da've like the person

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who you know, invented a motor
that can run on water, but he

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doesn't look both ways before he crosses
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What about Brock Purdy? What did
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I thought Brock was good. You
know, look, Brock isn't going

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to be the elite playmaker that we
see some other guys, but he doesn't

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have to be. He does a
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I think he's a little more athletic
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I thought he played well enough to
win last night. That there was a

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couple of plays and I want to
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the best defensive one of the best
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the best defensive Lineman on the Chiefs
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Chris Jones was in his face and
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throws. So, you know,
I thought Brock played well enough to win.

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I think he can go back to
the play calling. But expecting Brock

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Perdy to just put the team on
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Deebo Samuel and Brandon Niyuk and George
Kittle and Jawan Jennings, I can go

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down the list. That wasn't the
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Brock, I mean again, you're
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three bucks an hour to eat you
to the super Bowl. And he made

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some great throws and he missed some
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you know. And I think that
a lot of people look at this

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roster that they have is kind of
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playing quarterback. And there's just a
certain amount of people that are never going

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to give, you know, kudos
to guys who aren't highly recruited or aren't

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highly drafted. But the reason is
because the NFL has become a game where

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you have to have one of the
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win the Super Bowl these days.
It didn't always used to be like that.

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You could have great defenses that are
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even though we kind of hate that
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know, down the stretch of this
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the Chiefs needed a big play on
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Purty. They heated him and let
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and they knew that they could get
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blitz there in the fourth quarter,
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goal instead of getting that third and
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you do that against Patrick Mahomes,
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He's going to hit a crossing route
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thirty yards if you blitze it.
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to toe with Patrick Mahomes in his
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and I think Brock Perdy gets enough
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Shanahan out a lot because people don't
remember Kyle Shanahan gave a lot up to

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get Trey lance Ye say who was
a bus? Say an absolute bust and

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brock Purty mystery relevant the last pick
of the NFL coming almost saved Kyle Shanahan's

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career. Yeah, the roster is
great, but you can look alone around

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a lot of rosters in the NFL
with elite quarterbacks who can't beat Patrick Mahomes

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and the Chiefs, a lot of
the Ravens. So I think brock perty

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needs his money. Mean, I
mean how the guy has a roommate,

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drives it to coma to work and
you're losing over Patrick Mahon. I think

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that's a good point. Maybe some
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this window that the forty nine ers
have, right, all of these pieces

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on offense and defense, and they're
not going to be able to pay everyone

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forever. That it's like, okay, right now is the forty nine ers

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window. We don't care if your
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care. What it is now is
when you have to win. Whereas if

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this were some really really young team, like let's say the Packers, who

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the forty nine are just beat to
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oh, well, they got this
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quarterback, they're going to be a
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we're kind of saying, Okay,
well the quarterback's young, but some of

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these guys you're going to have to
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seasons. I was just going in
that direction because you were talking about future

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the AFC and just pivoting over to
the NFC. My god, Jordan Love

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looked fantastic this season, and in
terms of expectations versus reality, totally.

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I think blew a lot of US
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not entirely surprising, but still remarkable. And yeah, there's Aaron Rodgers are

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still out there. You mentioned all
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look fantastic this season. What are
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know, look, as much as
things change, I think a lot of

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them are going to stay the same. First off, Emily, you speak

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our language when it comes to football. I'm very impressed. And also Joe

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pat Go our father played for the
Package for a few years. We got

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family from up there. Look,
when you look at the NFL going forward,

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it's you know, guys are getting
thrown into the fire quicker at the

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quarterback position than ever before. You
have coaches that are getting highed that are

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younger than ever before, and which
I think is a good thing. It's

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all cyclical. But going forward,
the Chiefs are not going anywhere. You

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look at the way that team's built, you know, with what they're trying

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to do, I don't expect any
change there. But Jim Harball getting hired

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by the Chargers. You look at
the AFC West, Now what are the

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Raiders going to do now? With
Antonio Pierce. You can go down the

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list, but you know, you
look at the Detroit Lions, who are

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slowly becoming my favorite team outside of
the Green Bay Packers with what Dan Campbell's

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doing. I'm interesting to see what
the Falcons are going to do. But

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Emily, this draft, to me
is so fascinating because we've never seen an

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NFL draft that's this deep at quarterback. So you look at the Chicago Bears,

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who have the number one overall pick. You're going to keep justin fields

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and maybe trade that pick or get
Marvin Harrison junior and put some p around

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him, or do you go and
get Kaylen Williams and then trade justin Field.

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So I think this draft is going
to have so much and every draft

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has some ripple effect, but I
think that the effect of this draft on

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how many quarterbacks are coming out that
could be legitimate problems in a good way

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and turn franchises around. And you
see what CJ. Stroud did and some

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of these young guys, Jordan Love
and Brock Purdy, It's again, it's

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a young man's game. Guys are
getting thrown in the fire. So I

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like the anomalist factor of a lot
of new quarterbacks. But I just hope

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overall that the product's a little bit
better, not not as sloppy as it

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was this year, even though I
am a defensive guy. Well, Emily,

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congrats on being a fan of a
franchise that has successfully passed the baton

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from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers and
not to Jordan Love. And look,

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I have to be honest, he
surpassed any expectations that I had for him.

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Even just watching him in the pocket, I could tell that he sat

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behind Aaron Rodgers and took mental reps
year after year. And it's not just

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he's in the same helmet in the
same jersey. The way he pushes the

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pocket reminds me a lot of Aaron
Rodgers and they're young. Think the Packers

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are going to be real good.
Now. Compare that with divisional rival Chicago

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Bears, like just mentioned, have
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Meanwhile, the Packers are going from
Brett bar to Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love.

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So I don't know what they're going
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if you stick with Justin Fields in
a year where you have the number one

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pick and you could go get one
of these generational quarterbacks that's coming out,

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you know, you take a big
risk by doing that. And Justin Fields

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is an incredible player. I get
that, and it's hard to have success

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in the environment that he was in
this past year. But they're going to

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be in a tough spot they if
they pass on too many of these talents

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coming out. Yeah, I agree. I think Jordan Love is the real

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deal, and I've given my flowers
him. I was rough on the kid

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earlier year. I didn't think he
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I mean, the one thing about
the Lions and the Packers, you can

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kind of look at the same thing. They're young. I mean they're young

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pieces. Romeo Doves, Christian Watson, Randall, Reed Randall, Reid Rix,

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Tucker Kraft at Ted End He's going
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it's the same thing with the Lions. I'm really excited about this Lions team.

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Jared Goff proved himself this year.
I think Jared Gosson now a guy

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you can believe. But they're young
too, Jamiir Gibbs, Jameson Williams of

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Sam Brown's not old, Sam Laporta, I mean the guy Montgomery, Aiden

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Hutchinson, Brian Branch. They're young
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And the way they're built is a
run first team. Run first, and

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you can win a lot of games
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But now, if you're Dan Campbell, you have to go shure up

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that the young, hungary and pissed
is a great way to happen. You

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have to go sure up that secondary
right now. If you're a Packers fan,

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are you're a Lions fan, stock
is trending up. You guys are

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getting everyone really hyped up about next
season, and now there's like, let's

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get emotion on here. Yeah,
so I have to do it. I'm

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sorry about this, but I do
have to ask about the Taylor Swift of

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it all. Of course, you
know it's they were They were really conservative

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in taking shots or showing shots of
her, at least it seemed like in

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the first half. And then I
feel like they just let it go and

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just kept going back and back to
back and forth to her booth. What'd

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you guys think of how often they
went to Taylor? What'd you guys think

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of the kind of cultural appreciation for
Taylor and Travis and how all that was

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handled this last week? I can't
wait for mine here. Well yeah,

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well, I'm just there's the part. I'm like, Trump, here's the

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thing, You're ready. I'm just
I'm over it. I'm so over it.

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I get look, I'm happy.
I hope they're in love. I

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hope they're in just the loviiest love
of all time. Right, But if

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I go to a Taylor Swift concert
and I'm looking at the jumbo tron,

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I don't want to see Travis Kelcey
smashing a Miller light over his head.

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Every thirty seconds, Like, I
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treat the Taylor Swift thing. It's
like with Jessica Simpson and Tony Romo,

406
00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:45,039
right, they kind of overdid that
right a little bit, so you can

407
00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:47,839
say the same thing there. But
it's almost like the Pride Night at the

408
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,880
Ballpark thing for me. I don't
care when I'm going to the game.

409
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:55,200
I don't care if you're gay,
if you're straight, if you dress up

410
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,279
like a hamster, or if you're
dating Taylor Swift. I'm just trying to

411
00:23:57,319 --> 00:24:00,319
win money on the game. I
want to watch the game. Can we

412
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,880
just please for five minutes not talk
about Taylor Swift and talk about why Travis

413
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,440
Kelse trying to fight Andy Reid on
the sideline? Boy? What do you

414
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,920
think? One? I'll tell you
this right now. I hate that Taylor

415
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,279
Swift and Travis Kelse one. But
I'm so glad it's over. I'm seeing

416
00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:18,640
it over the over Is it over? Though? Look? And I kind

417
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,440
of agree with Jake and I said
this when I found out that Taylor Swift

418
00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:22,680
and Travis Kelce were a thing.
Well, well, the Chiefs are going

419
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,599
to go to the Super Bowl and
win it because Taylor Swift is nothing but

420
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,599
money. She's brought almost five hundred
million dollars to the Chiefs and the NFL.

421
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,480
Look, Roger Goodell's a business man. We know how this works.

422
00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:37,039
But look, if they're dating,
that's fine. Just don't shove it down

423
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,599
my throat the entire game. Oh
if it is the first down, let's

424
00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:41,920
show Taylor Swift. Oh, look, some guys selling a hot dog.

425
00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:47,799
Let's show Taylor Swift eleven times.
Eleven times in the super Bowl, and

426
00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:51,119
I don't even want to know how
many times throughout the playoffs. There's some

427
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,160
weird about it. I don't believe
in it. Travis Kelce, a white

428
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,400
due from Cincinnati with the Fade,
going to date Taylor Swift. The girls

429
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:03,960
probably had three boyfriends and won quit
talking about it. Look, star athletes

430
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,160
dating pop stars. It's a tale
as old as time. As long as

431
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,480
it's organic. I really don't care
if we come to find out later that

432
00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:12,279
it was all just a set up, a trap. Man, it was

433
00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:15,200
all just a setup. Yeah,
best believe. I would very much like

434
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,160
to come back on your show because
I'm going all in on it. Well,

435
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,480
Emily, they said they brought into
all these Taylor Swift view here's my

436
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:23,480
thing on it. This is why
I think it was a bad decision for

437
00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:27,799
the NFL. You better hope that
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey get married,

438
00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:33,279
okay, because all those viewers that
you brought in that they're dating the minute

439
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:37,359
Taylor Swift breaks up with this guy
and write some song that's like the tight

440
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,720
end wasn't you know the right end? Or whatever the hell she wants to

441
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,920
call it. Now, Oh man, they're gonna leney. Yeah, they're

442
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,200
gonna lose twice as many people as
they brought in. So you read what

443
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,839
you sew, all right. You
want Taylor Swift, you bring her in

444
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,279
here on the plane. All of
a sudden, she gets pushed on the

445
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,640
raft down the river. You're gonna
have a prop. So I feel really

446
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,319
bad for all the Swifties in the
first half who were just there because of

447
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,200
Taylor Swift and didn't know anything about
football. Because I'm sitting there like,

448
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,039
man, this is the first game
they've ever seen, and they think this

449
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:08,440
is how they all go. They
probably think this is soccer at the point,

450
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,240
you think, and the only reason
is she's there, said you have

451
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:18,640
a costco card I can't believe you
just gave away the tight end right end

452
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,240
line for free. That's d of
Bykrate and Company. Four. So the

453
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:26,599
other thing I want to ask you
guys about, because again you're the you

454
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,240
know, making sports about sports,
keeping sports about sports guys, a noticeable

455
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:37,480
decline in wokeness around advertisements, the
commercials during the game, the halftime show.

456
00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:41,440
It almost feels like the sort of
business world, the c suite,

457
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:45,799
kind of Madison Avenue. Guys have
realized, especially in light of the bud

458
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:49,720
light situation, that people just want
things to go back to normal. What

459
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:56,079
did you make of all the sort
of commercials advertising that climate surrounding the game

460
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,119
this year? Well, it's it's
amazing when you hit him in the pocket

461
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,680
books things change. It's amazing how
quickly that happens. Here's what I'll say.

462
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,480
I think some of the commercials were
kind of funny. I mean,

463
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,640
the Christopher walking one to me was
the best one, if not because I

464
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,759
got to do my Christopher walking impression
on the live stream, which I was

465
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,680
pretty excited about, which got rave
reviews. By the way, if you

466
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,960
want it's crazy, it's wild,
But no, I look, at the

467
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:25,359
end of the day, I still
don't. I still think everybody's afraid to

468
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,920
offend anybody, so like it's hard
for these commercials to be funny. And

469
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,200
I'm gonna let Coan speak to this
point. I think he's one hundred percent

470
00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:33,799
right. I think now they're like, listen, let's not rock the boat.

471
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,319
Let's put a touple celebrities in here, so we don't have to have

472
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,640
a real good plan or something smart
written for the commercial. The super Bowl

473
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:44,640
has become simply a corporate event,
right and by design to get non football

474
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,640
viewers into the game. So when
you look at the elaborate halftime performances and

475
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,880
the high dollar commercial spent, and
obviously Taylor swifts presence only exacerbates all that.

476
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,480
But when I was growing up,
I didn't think like the funniest commercials

477
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,720
were the ones that were just simple
and they were funny. I mean I

478
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:02,960
remember watching a time when of your
commercial could could just say what's happ and

479
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,359
three guys sitting around non celebrities they
do that, and I was laughing.

480
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:10,519
Is that because I was twelve years
old? And maybe Richard, I don't

481
00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:12,400
know. I just feel like I
would have still laughed at that yesterday.

482
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:15,160
Now, like you said, everyone's
trying to be so careful. They're trying

483
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,680
to tiptoe around the content. They're
just like, you know what we could

484
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,680
do. Let's let's just get an
a list celebrity Ben Affleck, Matt Damon,

485
00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:25,799
let's put him in a commercial and
it'll just automatically be good. That

486
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,200
doesn't make it good. Well,
if bud Light was smart, and we

487
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,559
were talking about this earlier, like
if you came out and just had like

488
00:28:30,599 --> 00:28:33,240
the CEO of Nhuzard Bush look at
the camera and say, hey, I

489
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:37,079
screwed up, Like please forgive me. We you know, we love our

490
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:40,799
big base or whatever. But you
know what would have been even better?

491
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,559
What if they'd have somehow bud Light
would have had Dylan Molveny in the commercial

492
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:48,680
making fun of like so of himself
and like what happened? And then it

493
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,559
was Dylan Molveni drinking every other beer
that's their competitor. They're like, why

494
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:56,880
don't we put this around? But
you couldn't do that because you know,

495
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,440
like twelve people, these guys not
complicated. I think all this Super Bowl

496
00:29:00,559 --> 00:29:04,920
commercials were trashed, even Christopher Walking
trying to give me the pagric car what.

497
00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:07,160
I'm not doing that and too,
David, I go back to what

498
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,160
you're saying. It's it's not complicated
to make it super Bowl commercial. I

499
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,279
go back to the Dodo Super Bowl. Yeah, the best ones, and

500
00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:17,279
they're super simple. I mean,
look, just put puppies and a horse

501
00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:21,200
in there. It's a winner,
all right. It's like the Peach off

502
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,400
the Elf. Yeah, the vulnerable
pach It's not tough. The super Bowl

503
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:30,160
commercials were trashed bud Light. I'm
sorry. I go back to Jonahill from

504
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,279
Super Bad. All right, even
the third grade people don't forget. Yeah,

505
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:36,559
all right. I will never drink
bud Light, and hopefully society is

506
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,759
well. I think society is dumb
enough to where if you do put one

507
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:41,400
hundred million dollars down, which bud
Light did in the UFC, that they

508
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,319
will forget. But majority, I
think us are in the minority. But

509
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,240
I do think majority of people.
Put paint Manning in there. You can

510
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,880
put postmone they'll get past. Yeah. Bud Light's clearly trying to buy their

511
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,839
way out of this without an apology
or even acknowledging any wrongdoing. And to

512
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,400
Jake's point, like if the CEO
of Anheuser Bush who a year ago was

513
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,319
saying, well, our quarterly profits
are unaffankful. Yeah, like we're not.

514
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,480
We're you lost four billion dollars right
in revenue. So if that,

515
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,480
if that guy had just come out
and simply look down the barrel of a

516
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:14,359
lens and and you know, you
can still dance around an issue without you

517
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,160
know, going after attacking certain groups
of people, but coming out and acknowledge

518
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,400
wrongdoing, said we made a mistake, We apologize. I think bud Light

519
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,279
would have experienced record breaking sales today. It's like that South Park episode you

520
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,839
remember over there. I was like, I'm sorry, Yeah, I'm sorry.

521
00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:30,000
That's all you have to do.
But the thing about it is they're

522
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:34,319
not so Yeah, and you guys
can write Taylor Swift songs and Super Bowl

523
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:42,079
commercials. What can't you do ageat
dunk of bas trampoline? Yeah, I'm

524
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:47,680
risky. One of it hurts me
in my life. It's not it's not

525
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:51,799
like money. It's not taxes.
I can't throw a frisbee and we're gonna

526
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:56,119
work them. We're gonna work it's
bad, gotta hit the for of course.

527
00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,279
Alright. My last question, Yeah, I was watching at my school.

528
00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:02,160
That's where everybody they'd be like,
oh, we're froffling tonight. It

529
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,519
just meant that they were smoking a
lot of weak because yeah, well you

530
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:07,920
know, we had another name for
it. But I see where you he

531
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,400
where you're going. Well, all
right, My last question is I was

532
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,599
watching your live stream and it has
to be kind of weird. I mean,

533
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,440
it's it seems like it's fun.
But how do you guys watch a

534
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:26,279
game and then also make sure that
your reactions are like a live stream appropriate

535
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,240
and be just like helpful to your
viewers. Does that make sense? So,

536
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:30,599
like, you guys are watching the
game, tell us a little bit

537
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,279
about just the process behind the set. Well, first off, thank you.

538
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,880
We love doing the live streams.
Here's what I'll say. I think

539
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,000
one of the cool parts about our
show is like this is really us.

540
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,359
Like I'm not saying like that show
on ABC with Manny, more like this

541
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,200
is us. Sometimes like this is
like us in real lives. So if

542
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,039
you were hanging out with us watching
the game, like in our living room,

543
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:52,759
you would get the same kind of
reactions, albeit it's a little bit

544
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:55,279
more restrict on the live streams.
There's some things that we can't say,

545
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:56,519
and some things that we can.
I think we've done it so much now,

546
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,119
you know, we've kind of gotten
used to it. But this is

547
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:00,359
this is really us, like you. I mean, we had Blaine go

548
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,519
to the Square of despair from a
betting standpoint. Multiple come that would have

549
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,400
happened. It's like Blaine says,
listen, we're the type of people where,

550
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,759
oh no, the game's over,
there's two holes in the wall and

551
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,759
our team won. Like people,
it's just this, this is who we

552
00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:15,559
are. And I think that's why
it works. It's because it's genuine.

553
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:17,559
We don't sit here in like plot
like hey, you say this and then

554
00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:21,799
I'm gonna get pitted and you're gonna
say this and we're gonna be friends again.

555
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,960
Right, No, it's like it's
really us. Well thanks for tuning

556
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,640
into the live stream. And yeah, I think people that they like it

557
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,079
because I think together the three of
us have what would you say, seventy

558
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:36,000
five years of combined experience with football
products. I know we sound really old

559
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,599
now, but you know, we
just we can bring that to a game

560
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:43,279
with our analysis and our commentary and
then you know, not sucker punch people

561
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:46,960
with any sort of woke content or
disrespect them or be disingenuous. So I

562
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,200
think as long as we're being ourselves
and we're able to provide some sort of

563
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:55,319
analysis that helps our listeners what we
call win the water cooler, then we're

564
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:59,119
off to a good start. Well, what did James Franco say? Same?

565
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:02,480
Same, thame, same, But
let's still say yeah. I mean,

566
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:06,960
Jake and David are really good at
their jobs from an analysis standpoint,

567
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,279
and I just pretend like I'm Batman
on the ships. That's two references.

568
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:15,640
You're done. You're done. Yeah, that's it. It's the limit is

569
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:22,119
too Actually yeah, come on all
right, Well, the guys from Craning

570
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,519
Company, it has been absolute pleasure
to have you guys on Federalist Radio Hour.

571
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:29,039
Thank you so much for stopping by. You can listen to them over

572
00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:31,440
at the Daily Wire. Just appreciate
all your guys thoughts and what you're doing

573
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,240
over there. Emily, listen anytime
you need us to swoop in. I

574
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,920
know you're you're a sports fan,
but anytime you need to in, here

575
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:42,880
is time for the third Batman reference. No, not sky Hook, not

576
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,039
guy Hook, not skyhook, different
things. But Emily, thank you much

577
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,279
for having us. Yeah, we
have a great time. We're trying to

578
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:50,440
bring sports media back to what it
used to be, when you could just

579
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,039
watch it and it was about sports. So if you're into that thing,

580
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:57,039
check us out. All right,
you've been listening to another edition of the

581
00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:00,400
Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Drashinsky, culture editor here at The Saturalist.

582
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,400
Will be back soon with more.
Until then, be lovers of freedom and

583
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,079
anxious for the fray.
