Hey, everybody, this is Left Striving. Yes, yes, I know
aka Survivor Man, and you're listening to Brian on Sasquatch Autist. Hey there,
welcome back to Sasquatch Odds. Thank you so much for clicking play.
It is Wednesday. I hope you're having a great week. We have an
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I said, we've got a great guest lined up. I got to sit
down and talk to Daisy from Nova Scotia, Canada. And Daisy actually sent
us some voicemails probably about a year ago, and she had issues with her
phone and they kept cutting off and I didn't get the full story. And
we reached out to her and it's taken us this long to get her here
on the show, but she's here to share her interesting experiences. I let
Daisy tell you all about those in just a moment. She mentions very early
on in the beginning of the episode here that she is of indigenous heritage,
and I had never heard of the Shushwap people. So I did a little
bit of digging and looking into their culture, and I found some really cool
background on the Shushwap people and their history and lore around giants. So I
insert that very early on in the interview here, just really quickly before we
get into Daisy's experiences. I have been doing story time over here on Sasquatch
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But enough of that, I know you're ready to get into it.
Daisy's online, She's ready to go. All you have to do is sit
back, relax, and enjoy the show. I want to welcome my guest
to the show. It is Daisy from Nova Scotia, Canada. Welcome to
the show, Daisy, Thank you, thanks for having me. I'm glad
to have you. This has been a long time coming. You send us
some voicemails quite a while back, and I know we've been trying to get
you on. So I am glad you're here. Let's get right into it.
Let's talk about this big, full thing. What got you interested in
the subject to begin with. I grew up in a really small town in
BC called Chase. I think at the time the population was like around three
thousand people. And I lived in the outskirts of Chase. And there was
a bunch of interesting things that happened to me, like living in this like
small reservation area, and I had an experience that I just really wanted to
share with the world. And I talked to my sister about it, and
I talked to my friends about it, and it shook them too, and
I just wanted to share this in general. You definitely came to the right
place to share your experience. Let's set the stage for everybody listening. Talk
a little bit about the area that you lived in, give us sort of
the background of how you guys got there and what that area was like,
and then go right into your experience. Yeah sounds good. Like I said,
I lived in a very small town. I did live on the reservation
in that small town, and it was approximate twenty twenty five I ish drive
outside of the town itself, so it was very isolated. There wasn't any
street ramps or posts or anything. I lived in an area where the gravel
dirt road would turn off into a smaller subsection, and there was four houses
in a row there, but only two of them were inhabited, and I
inhabited one of them, and growing up there, it was actually quite fun
and as a kid because I just was so outdoor zy. There was like
a river really close by and we would go swimming there almost every day.
We would explore the area. It was definitely just a very forgotten about abandoned
area because there was a huge dump that had just been abandoned. There was
a mountain of trash five minutes from where I lived, and there was also
a house that you strayed. Even even further from the main road, being
the dirt road, there was a house that was burnt down and we just
discovered a lot of interesting creepy stuff there. We heard a lot of rumors
throughout the community. I am Indigenous as well, and throughout the indigenous community
people had told us that they believed that our house was built on an Indian
burial ground. Do you mind me asking what tribe your family is from?
Yeah, I'm from the SHOs Swap, which is located in Chase. It's
shus Wab. Before we get deep into daisy story here, I had never
heard of the Shushwap people, so I did a little research and I found
that they have a rich history with tales of giants in that area, and
I wanted to share that with you really quickly before we go any further.
In the northern region of Stony and Kuteney Territory, stretching from Jasper National Park
to the McGregor River, lies the ancestral land of two distinct First nations.
One of these nations, located in the heart of the Majestic Mountains near Jasper
National Park, is home to the Osni Watchiwinnawaki, also known as the Rocky
Mountain People. This tribe is a unique blend of Iroquois, Cree, and
Lake Nipissing Ajibwi people who were employed by the Hudson's Bay Company. Unfortunately,
despite their rich heritage, they do not possess Indian status in Canada. The
other nation which surrounds and overlaps with the territory of the Rocky Mountain People is
the vast land of the Shoe Swap, an Interior Salish nation. The shoe
SWAP's ancestral hunting grounds extend westward into the Cariboo Country of British Columbia. Their
culture is deeply rooted in oral traditions, which have been meticulously document by explorers,
anthropologists, and the Shoe Swap people themselves. One of the most notable
sources of Shoe Swap folklore is the ridings of James Alexander Tate, a Scottish
Canadian anthropologist who immersed himself in the culture of the Interior Salash people during the
late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. In his nineteen oh nine treatise on the
Shoe Swap Indians, Tate delves into the legends of the shoe Swap giants,
who were believed to have once been abundant in the region. According to Tate's
research, these giants were exceptional hunters and runners, possessing immense strength. Even
the smallest among them were four to five times the height and strength of an
average man, resembling towering trees. Their complexion was gray, earning them the
nickname bleached or gray trees. From a distance, they appeared black, leading
to the moniker burned trees. They adorned themselves in attire made from black bear
skin, including caps, robes, belts, leggings, and moccasins. Crafting
a single pair of moccasins acquired an entire medium sized black bear skin. These
giants were capable of effortlessly carrying four large buck deer on their backs, and
it was said that one of them once killed two black bears and stored them
on either side of his belt, much like an ordinary man would do with
squirrels. While they rarely posed a threat to humans, they occasionally stole fish,
a delicacy they greatly enjoyed. Tate also shared a traditional tail about a
legendary shoe swap hero who ventured out for ice fishing in an unnamed body of
water long ago. As the hero speared numerous fish and placed them beside him
on the frozen surface, a giant approached, causing the earth to tremble with
each step. The vibrations caused the hero's hard earned fish to slip back into
the water. Annoyed by the giant's actions, the hero asked that he stopped
stomping. However, the giant continued, leading to the hero's frustration when the
last of his fish disappeared into the depths, the hero decided to engage in
a wrestling match with the giant. The two adversaries grappled and rolled on the
grip, neither gaining the upper hand. Exhausted, they eventually release their grips
and went their separate ways. Legend has it that the hero ventured into the
mountains and later coexisted with the giants. While Tate shoe swap informants claimed that
the mountain giants haunting their territory were less prevalent in the early twentieth century compared
to ancient times, accounts of Sasquatch sidings as documented by John Green and others,
suggest that these legendary alpine beings may still roam the mist covered cliffs of
Jasper and the northern Continental Rockies. There was a lot of creepy stuff that
happened in the house I lived in. One interesting thing was we would go
to the lake almost every day, or sorry, the river almost every day,
and one time we veered off just in a slightly off path and we
found this huge abandoned wooden shack. But it was like it was just built
with one type of wood. It didn't seem to like actually be like a
place that was meant to be inhabitable in any sort of way. And we
walked in at one point and we just saw this sho I had a metal
box in the middle of the room and there was nothing else in there,
and we opened it up and we realized that it was it was a cremator.
And we had just recently both watched the Gut Saw and there was a
cremator in saw where this is a cremator and it was abandoned, but it
was very creepy. Another thing that happened was so my sister and I did
break into that abandoned house that was burnt down, and she was just like
we were just like looking around through the trash and she was like, whow,
I found a screwdriver and she just she needed a screwdriver. She brings
the screwdriver home. And I know this seems like a small thing, but
in the town that I grew up and sasquatches are seen as messengers from the
universe in indigenous culture, and some of the things that followed what happened.
My sister believes that we were being specifically bothered because she stole something when we
were on in Indian burial ground. That's her take on it. I have
a different take on it, but yeah, essentially that's like a bit of
the lore with where I was staying, how far away I was from society,
and yeah, before we get into your experience, I'm curious about the
difference in your take on that situation versus your sisters. What is the different
take that you have on that kind of stuff versus what she has. I
think, first of all, with my experience, I was the one that
was there that night and I found, which I'll get into later, this
thing that was left at my door, and she was I think, just
being I don't know, maybe we're both right, maybe we're both wrong,
but her opinion was that this was like a warning specifically to her, and
for me, it was like a warning specifically to me. But she wasn't
there that night that it happened, and I was, so for me,
I'm just like, this is how this is my take on it. But
a lot of Indigenous people actually really respect the idea of sasquatch or bigfoot because
they think they're messengers and they think that they travel through the trees there's all
this like lore that I've been told as a kid when I was growing up,
and so like a lot of Indigenous people have like a high level of
respect towards the concept of this being. And yeah, just for me at
that age though, just like the thing that I went through just felt terrified
and felt like wasn't I don't know, maybe it was a warning or maybe
it was like something else, but yeah, anyways, that's where I'm at.
And like I said, I almost happened when I was ten or eleven.
I am twenty eight now that it was really I felt really comfortable relaying
this story because I got in touch with both my sister and my friend and
they completely validated all of my details of that evening. Let's get right into
it. Take us back to where you were, what you were doing,
and tell us what happened to you. Sure. Yeah, So, like
I said, I was ten or eleven, this was a night where my
parents were out. I would just say my mom and my stepdad were out,
my sister was at her friend's house, so it was just me and
my friend, and that's like normal. We always would take care of each
other, and I had a trampoline and we were bouncing on the trampoline at
night and thinking it was so fun. And then we're like, hey,
my parents aren't home. Let's crawl into the roof. And we crawled onto
the roof because it was like, I guess our parents or my parents wouldn't
necessarily want me to do that, but we were like, no one's here.
And then we were so young, we were pretending to be wolves.
So we're on the roof and we were howling just into the darkness, and
then something howled back at us. But I don't even know if I could
call it like a howl, because the sound was just like it's really bizarre
sound, and like I know that there's like classic like like Pooh sounds that
they make or like in the tree tapping, but this sound was it almost
sounds like a mix between a semihorn with an animal. Like it was just
like this really long sound, and we could like we were on the roof,
and we weren't scared at this point at all, like we were having
fun, but we heard the sound. And both of us have lived like
in basically the forest like for our entire lives, and we like looked at
each other and we knew that was like not a sound we'd ever heard,
but we knew it was animalistic to some sense. As we got really scared,
and we came down the roof and I came through my back door.
I remember locking the back door. We both ran into my parents' bed,
dove under the covers, and then my friend was like, I really want
to look at the window. And the window she was talking about was the
window that would have been facing the sound because we were sitting at Laha.
I mean, I can show you with my hands. So there was like
this. So we were sitting on the roof leg here and there was a
door here that we went into, but the sound we were here, the
roof continued or sorry, the roof continues like this way, and the sound
was coming from this angle, and there was a front door here, but
we went through the back door, ran to my parents' house, which her
parents' bedroom, sorry, which was like in this area. And then she
was I really want to look at the window. And I was like,
I really don't want you to look up the window. I think that was
terrifying. And she was like, you know what, I'm gonna go do
it, and I was like, don't do it. Then I was wait.
I was like, the front door is definitely unlocked, so if you're
gonna go look out the window, go lock the front door, and that's
you could look out the window that way. And yeah, so she did
and we were both scared, but she's always just been like a little bit
braver than me. And she went to go do it, and I just
heard her fumble with the lock and then just run back into the bench.
She dope under the covers, and I was like, Okay, what did
you see? And she was shaking and not really talking to me, and
she's just like the bravest person I know, and she's not really the type
of person to play a scare prank on me. And like I said,
I had to talk to her again now because we haven't really talked a lot
since that happened. But she was like, I completely believe that I saw
a sasquatch, And how she described it was so like I said, we
were in the middle of nowhere, super dark, there's no lights coming from
anywhere. The only light is there's this one white light at the end of
my driveway and it just goes it shines right down on this wooden white garbage
can thing, and that's where we would put our trash and how it get
taken out. But anyways, she just described I'm going to say that the
trash can was probably at least four feet high, and she said she saw
these two hairy legs just standing right in front of it. It was so
tall, and she used, the legs just kept going. There wasn't like
a torso thing happening, and it was just fuzzy and they were just standing
there. But the way that the light was shining was like she could only
see the legs, she couldn't see anything else. And yeah, basically that
was what happened that night. We eventually fell asleep after a while. We
were both like terrified, and my parents weren't home or I keep saying my
parents, but like my mom and my stepdad. And then it was either
that's part I feel bad abouts I can't quite remember, but it was either
the next day or the day after that where somebody left or something was left
on our back door, the door that we would have come down through,
and it was like this giant piece of cowflesh. It was probably how I
described the sides of a football about that ish big but it was there was
hair like cow hair on it, and it was physically ripped. There was
like all this crazy that wasn't cut but anyway, it was torn. And
then there was a bite mark out of it and it was a huge human
teeth, like almost like horse teeth, like horses are, but it was
just smeared all over our door. And then it was just left there.
And then I showed it to my mom and my stepdad, who were very
spiritual, and they were well, I mean, they found it, but
they saw it and they put it in a freezer. They're like, Okay,
we should hold onto this because it feels important or we could do something
with it. But then my mom and my stepdad got in the fight about
it and they ended up throwing it out or burning it because my stepdad was
very spiritual and I think he thought it was a bad omen and my mom
was just I don't know. It was just like a huge argument between them,
and yeah, I don't know. I just think that like us going
on the roof and howling, I feel like I think that the thing that
was left there wasn't a warning. It was like an offering. And my
sister thinks it was a warning for her taking the screwdriver from the place.
And I think it was an offering because we were two young women that were
howling on this roof, and I think that in a lot of Native floor
regards to sasquatches, but they also will say, oh yeah, sometimes they
like to snag up females and stuff. So that's what I thought of it.
Yeah, I've since reached out to my friend at the time and she
was, yeah, I still believe them. I haven't had another instance,
but I totally believe that was an exact sciting, So it's hard to me.
It's very interesting. Was bigfoot? Obviously she knew when she looked out
the window, and she came back and said, I think I saw a
sasquatch. Sasquatch was clearing on the radar for her. Was it something that
was on your radar before you had that experience? And then here's the other
thing about that. The second part of that question is, Yeah, typically
when people have some sort of experience like that, they do one of two
things. They either run from it, yeah, they don't want any part
of it, or they go down the rabbit hole and want to know more.
Talk a little bit about where you were with sasquatch before you had the
experience, and then what happened to you afterwards? Did you go down the
rabbit hole or did you go the opposite direction? I was ten or eleven.
It's not like I spent all this researching it. Like I said,
I grew up in the middle of nowhere. I didn't have Internet. I
am that anything. But growing up my family, I would say, not
specifically my mother because she was a bit stand offish towards the whole thing,
but other relatives and my sisters and stuff had talked about the way that we
do believe in it and there are things out there that we don't understand,
and especially this area that we live in particularly, there have been more sightings
and I believe them too, because you would go around Chase and there would
be little anecdotes towards it. Can you like, welcome to Chase, and
then someone made this little sculpture like a sasquatch or a bigfoot or whatever you
want to call it. And if you talk to people on the reserve and
my family, they wouldn't talk about it as if it was like a fictional
thing. They would talk about it as if, of course, that's a
thing. Growing up super young, I did always believe in it. However,
my friend was pretty white, and I felt like she would think it
was nonsense, so I didn't really ever talk to her about it. I
think the fact that she saw what she saw and came to me and was
terrified, knowing that I never talked to her about it, I think that's
a little bit telling, because I don't I think she I don't think she
would have believed it even if I did bring it up to her before.
And yeah, since then, I just feel like it's not like I saw
what I saw, but I experienced what I experienced, and it felt really
real, and just like seeing the bite marks and the blood sneering was just
the strangest thing I've ever seen in my life. I can't imagine someone doing
that as a practical joke, and I'm thinking about how they would even it
would have to construct something to look like this, and they would have to
abuse an animal like it just really felt so weird for that to not be
something, for that to be a practical joke or something, And it's like
we'd never really talked to anyone about it. If someone was trying to play
a joke. I don't know. It just didn't seem like that was a
joke. It just felt really real and scary after this happened. Did you
have any more experiences while you guys were there, and did it affect you
about going out maybe and going farther away into the woods and doing any exploring
after that. Did it affect your life in that way a lot. Yeah,
it was already this slightly scary environment to be in a way because it
was in the middle of nowhere. And for example, when we were growing
up, we used to always go down to the river and then we'd follow
the river up to this point where there was this really nice white sand beach
and it was definitely like it was the only it was like tiny, and
it was in the middle of nowhere, so I think it was like a
man made beach. But we would love to swim there because it was so
beautiful, but it was really hard to get there, and sometimes when the
tide was high, we would cut through the forest and we would cut through
like neighbors houses and when I say, neighbors of farmers that didn't know who
we were and thought we were just going across their crops and would get really
angry and shoot guns off and stuff. So already it was not the best
environment to just be exploring. But after that happened, Yeah, like I
never went down to the even like just the river by myself. I couldn't
really do anything by myself, even though I was such like a naturee kid,
and like all I wanted to do was like go for jogs and go
swimming and go for build forts. I just like really had a hard time
doing that after that. And then shortly after this I did actually end up
movings. Yeah, I mean it definitely that whole area. I think I
can't I couldn't imagine myself going back there at this point without having a panic
attack. Even it's that scary still to me. I gotcha, it scares
me too, because my sister she doesn't really like talking about this stuff.
Like I tried to bring it up to her and she's, yep, I
remember that happening, but I don't want to talk about this. And she
still lives like in that area and I live so far away from that now
PC versus Nova Scotia. That's so yeah, Like she doesn't really like talking
about it because she's so close to the whole situation. You mentioned other odd
things going on maybe Anne and around the house. Did you have other experiences
why you guys were there. Do you mind talking about some of those?
Yeah, so I know that this is like specifically like a Sasquatch podcast,
But we had other things that felt like ghostly that were really bizarres. So
once we were actually moved from that spot, it was silly. So we
moved. Like I said, there was four houses. We were on one
house here and then there was like two, three, four. We moved
into the fourth house, which I was like, great, we're still essentially
living here. But this thing happened where me and my friend were over at
my house and our parents were like, yeah, actually it's the same friend.
And my parents were like, yeah, you guys can hang out there.
And we decided we thought it would be fun to sleep on the trampoline,
and so we brought out all these blankets and stuff, and then it
ended up raining that night, and then so we brought in all of our
wet blankets and we put them on the dryer, and then we put our
clothes in the dryer. We were really young. We took a bath together.
We were like whatever, we'll just wait for our clothes to dry while
we take a bath to warm up. And then we got out of the
bath and then our clothes still weren't dry. But we were getting freaked out
because we kept curing these sounds, like the doors kept opening and shutting in
the house, and this is not the first time this has happened, like
it happened with my mom, my, sister, me, and this is
the only time it's ever happened with me and another person there though where at
the doors were opening and closed, like we could hear them from far away,
like we couldn't necessarily see them, but it was like that sound.
And then the radios kept turning on full blast to static, and we just
got really freaked out. And so we like our clothes weren't dry, and
we were in the middle of moving, so I was like, we went
into my room and I was like, Okay, what do I have for
us? Aware I don't really have anything, maybe like something in this bathroom
and I looked and the only thing I had was like bandanas, and I
was like, this is terrible. But we were super young and super scared.
And then as soon as I shut the rolling slide door to my bathroom.
We started to hear this sound. It was like a phone ring,
but it was like an old phone. It sounded like like that. And
then we both just looked at each other because I didn't have a phone,
especially not a phone that made that sound, because they disconnected the phone and
removing it. And then as soon as the phone ring stopped, the house
filled with this sound of people talking, like really under their breath. It
sounded like there was like a huge party happening, but everyone's talking like in
a murmury way. And we both just grabbed each other's hands and just ran
out the door, and like we ran basically naked past our neighbor's house and
down into the other house, and we were just screaming because we both experienced
this and it just felt so real. But yeah, just a lot of
other weird things happened like this. It was always a thing where the TVs
or sorry, the radios would turn on full blast to static, the doors
would open and shut. That was the main thing. And the thing that's
so crazy about this too is like that specific house that I lived in.
After I lived there, my friend's family moved in there and they moved out
because they were so scared of the house, and I've never known them to
be people that are superstitious about stuff like that. And then my sister's boyfriend
moved into that house and he also moved out because he was like, there's
something in here that's fucking with us. So I've known up to seven people
that have had the same experience in that host and it's always the TV,
the radio static, and like the door is like opening and shutting. Yeah,
I don't ask everybody who comes on the show. I very rarely ever
ask anybody, honestly, because I have this opinion that I don't really think
anybody knows what sasquatch is, so everything any answer is always subjective. But
given your history, given the indigenous connection to sasquatch, which is something that
has always been high on my radar in the research area and looking into this
subject, what do you feel that sasquatch is. Do you think it's a
flesh and blood creature running around? Do you think there's something more to it?
Clearly, obviously it's subjective in anything you say, yeah, will not
be held against you, obviously. I just want your opinion. What is
your opinion on what these things are, and why do you think they've been
so elusive and been so hard to prove scientifically that they exist. All I
can go off of is just the indigenous lore that I've heard and experienced.
But in a lot of indigenous cultures, including mine, at one point,
they would have as like a ritual of becoming a man quote unquote, they
would send younger boys. Specifically, they would have them do a three day
trip up a mountain, and then they would make them sit on the top
of the mountain as around them and either a circle of salt or like a
circle of herbs, and they would have to sit there without moving for three
days, and people would talk about these creatures that would come and see them,
and they were terrifying creatures that only existed in certain areas or in the
night, or to deliver some sort of message. And it was if you
were able to sit there for three days, then you would come down and
everyone would applaud you for what you've done and how you've matured, and how
you're able to face these creatures that people actually respected. But as long as
you stayed in the circle, apparently they wouldn't hurt you. And this is
just like I'm saying it's lore, but so there's that, and then there's
also other instances of my stepfather. He was an avid hunter and he ran
into this. In his opinion, he told me he ran into this creature
that's like this really strange. I wish I remember the name of it,
but it's like this kind of like bird, dinosaur like thing that's a combination
of different things, almost like a griffin. And he shot a deer and
then he went to go collect the body, and then the body was dragged
and then lifted. There was a smear of blood, and then it was
gone, and then he saw all these footprints. And so to me,
the idea of a sasquatch being a real thing or whatever its intentions are,
where does it come from. If all these other people in my community have
had these experiences or this has been passed down. I just there's a lot
of things that we don't know about what happens at night, and especially in
isolated areas. Also, it's always been said that they come from the trees
and they almost start moving through the trees, if that makes sense. I
never totally understood it, and it probably sounds silly, not super informed,
but it's just a lot of this came from the law, from my childhood's
that's the best way I can describe it, because a childlike way of describing
it. No, it makes total sense, and I definitely appreciate it.
Like I said, I don't think anybody truly knows, but clearly you grew
up hearing that lore and having that passed on from generations, and I think
it's a very important part of the whole sasquatch phenomenon in and of itself.
I really appreciate you coming on and sharing your stories. I've had a blast
talking to you. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I've been to talk
about It's just like I've always wanted to relay this story, and it's just
like sometimes I just feel like I sound crazy. So it's nice to talk
to people who actually are invested in these kinds of stories. I definitely don't
think you're crazy. It's awesome. I can't