WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:17.760 We' re here Monday, April 15. It' s been eight, 2 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:25.320 seven days since the Eclipse. Life changed radically for b Neta. I' 3 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:29.239 m being net, uh Neta, really, but don' t think I 4 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:33.320 ' m intruding, yeah, not Neta. Another day, I' ll 5 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:36.560 talk to those who have already arrived. Welcome, Dr Amel Hello. Good 6 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:40.719 night. No, because now I have the immense curiosity of knowing all that 7 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:43.759 that you said about what it consisted of. But for the time being, 8 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:50.759 we are very happy here starting one more week to talk about interesting things. 9 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:56.399 That' s right, so welcome to Dorther efra Baby Hi, girls, 10 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:03.079 how are you guys still in merciless retro- grade lupita, so, slow 11 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:03.480 down, calm down everything. But she' s been very good. That 12 00:01:03.519 --> 00:01:07.319 was very good. Very good. You guys have no idea, or I 13 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:08.319 can tell you, but it' s been really good. He' s 14 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:11.799 gonna shake us up. But for good, okay good. That' s 15 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:14.599 what I appreciate. So, I think so. So, I think so, 16 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:21.719 listen and it' s rocked a lot, a lot, because there 17 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:26.640 it is. Notice that you remember this Rost de Roust movie, where Alex 18 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:33.680 Baldwin involuntarily killed the film' s director of photography, and well, he 19 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:37.560 ' s already been exonerated. But the gunner, the gunkeeper, was sentenced 20 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:42.840 to 18 months in prison. So he said no way, for here everyone 21 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:48.280 dies when he has to die. No way. They should not even punish 22 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:55.400 me, i e, notice no repentance, not repentance, but assuming their 23 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:59.120 responsibility. No, you should have checked, there were no guns. I 24 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:06.920 can' t find my incense there. Wow, for the good vibe here. 25 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:09.039 Yeah, hey, well, well, let' s get through. 26 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:13.439 This program is making a little time for them to arrive, to greet. 27 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.000 The weekend was intense for me, at least, it was extremely intense, 28 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:23.439 but very good, very good. And today we' re going to talk. 29 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:30.879 Notice that we have two very important issues. Well, three very important 30 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:36.800 issues. Alberto Canesa, a survivor of the Andes who portrayed him after millions 31 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:39.680 of years, who have made films, is a hero for that survival. 32 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:47.879 For it was a conference in Monterrey, as the attendees went on to greet 33 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:53.520 him, because why did not the saves touch to the part that I will 34 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:59.080 not say, but took advantage of the lord, that is, it makes, 35 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:04.080 very survivor, but harassed. The next item is the lawyers for fofo 36 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:06.879 Marcos. We already had that one. We have been dealing with this subject 37 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:10.000 here for several programmes. We' ve been touching it and we' ve 38 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.879 already said the vision we have on that case. But right now, we 39 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:16.240 ' re going to say it and in the end istlinder Vis does it again. 40 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:20.719 He does it again. He' d already put us on alert, 41 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.560 Mr Doctor, in a very nice way with regard to dark children. Not 42 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:30.039 what the character was called the doctor, not two coras already one called inocuran 43 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:35.240 something like that, well, because it had already warned us. But now 44 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:39.199 they' re talking about nutrition and that' s what Efra baby is going 45 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:42.639 to tell us. But good. What do you think of what happened to 46 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:46.680 this surviving man, but I think that there, in the days that he 47 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:53.479 was there, in the Andes mountain range, surviving, because his hands lengthened, 48 00:03:53.759 --> 00:04:00.159 or what happened there. Notice that, obviously, this comes back from 49 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:04.039 my point of view, it puts this reality in the foreground that idealization is 50 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:13.560 never good. It is a defense mechanism, obviously, a classical defense mechanism 51 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:18.600 of the human being and is often in the collective when we see a phenomenon 52 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:27.399 like this or a tragedy like the one that happened on that occasion, and 53 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:30.759 one sympathizes with the victims, both with those who survive, because they are 54 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:34.480 victims of everything that has suffered foundation, even if they are survivors, and 55 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:39.519 with those who do not survive it. Then, then, these aspects of 56 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:43.360 the human being immediately appear, such as empathy, such as compassion, and 57 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:46.079 idealization also appears. They become heroes and are beginning to look perfect immaculate, 58 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:51.199 when, then, no human being is. So much. It' s 59 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:55.519 so good. I remembered, right now, that' s all proportion saved. 60 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.879 It is a different case, but it applies because of this idealization and 61 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:05.680 humanity expressed in inappropriate or serious behaviors, because the case of this athlete that 62 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:15.480 we made Pistorius is that, very much in spite of having a very serious 63 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:19.360 disability and it becomes so remarkable to become an athlete, in the end is 64 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:24.879 a murderer. Not then we are not at that extreme, but we are 65 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:28.879 facing a human being more than apparently, because he has his passions and has 66 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:33.079 his lack of self- control and limits of himself. But the other still 67 00:05:33.160 --> 00:05:41.439 Pistorius was a fool dazzled by success. But this one or there or that 68 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:46.279 neither with age can, nor with age can they act with that is old 69 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:53.319 - age viruelas. It says the saying exactly and maturing pita of what we 70 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:57.800 said in the afternoon, knowing that there are always cameras everywhere, that is 71 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.360 no more the one in front of you that you think you are taking the 72 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:03.519 picture, that is the 21st century, you have already traveled a large part 73 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:06.079 of it and you know perfectly well that wherever you want they will be fine. 74 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:12.319 Then, apart from what it does, it is imprudence, not very 75 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:15.199 reckless, and to continue looking for depressions between the belts between the mountain range. 76 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:21.040 See, it' s very morbid on the part of the Lord Dear 77 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:26.680 Efrandos and besides understanding that he' s not an international hero for any matter, 78 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:30.360 because, apart from those, they know what happens that I feel that 79 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:32.399 these people who did something heroic, feel that we have to forgive him everything 80 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:39.279 not to be, he wanted a brick and to me I already deserve to 81 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:41.399 grab, touch and manucate and hear And how sad that there were people who 82 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:43.800 made plaice jokes. Don' t make jokes about yourself They said that I 83 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:48.560 mean, he jokes about everything. No, well, he' s survived. 84 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:53.160 Let him know what you want to do. Hey, you know I 85 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:58.160 was listening to an interview with César Bono today. You see, we' 86 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.439 re all very sensitive about this black humor and these heavy jokes by comedians. 87 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:05.800 But I was listening to César Bono And that' s when you understand how 88 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:11.800 to make these jokes, you said, Sarbono was in a play where he 89 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:14.000 died, benedict everything where he died. I don' t know who. 90 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:18.079 And then one of the fellow comedians, one of the comedians, said already, 91 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:21.480 instead of announcing us by order of appearance, they will announce us by 92 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:29.519 order of disappearance. Great, good jokes, and they made fun of each 93 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:31.160 other. The truth. That' s humor, actually. But, well, 94 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.279 go on. You' re absolutely right. These unhappy people think they 95 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:40.879 can do what they want. Yes no, and only by being saved also 96 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:45.600 that he was saved by the Lord loving his hands. Yeah, strapped hands 97 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:51.079 on him and what you said ef there I can also apply. I mean, 98 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:57.040 apart from humanity being a person like all of us, that is, 99 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:00.959 it did survive something, a great tragedy, as you say, famous for 100 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:05.279 the world and so on. But that doesn' t change personality or nature. 101 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:09.439 As Lupita always says, that is independent and does not appear and notice 102 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.199 that what you pointed out also the frin is interesting, because good as Freud 103 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:18.560 at the time also talked about that people, that is to say some types 104 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:22.360 of characters say of elucidated or certain types of character, and a kind of 105 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:26.920 character that that is that of the person who has suffered something or for having 106 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:31.840 a disability, for example, and that we also talk about carpistols. He 107 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:37.200 feels that the world owes him something and then, for that reason he can 108 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:41.720 do things that maybe to others allowed, but they do, then they deserve 109 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:43.799 it too. They deserve it It' s forgiveness for her. I have 110 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:50.639 a very important date. So listen to things with this man, the tentacle, 111 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:56.639 the tentacles' rib, the pulpit. Thanks to those who are on 112 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:01.279 Facebook, those who are on YouTube, those who are on Spreaker, Spotify, 113 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.759 iTunes, on Amazon Music, help us distribute the podcast on all stations 114 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:09.720 that are podcasts, please, and also here give the likes and give the 115 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:16.320 comments and stars on Facebook. Thank you so much for following us, for 116 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.200 sharing with us this program that I really am having a lot of fun doing. 117 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:28.759 Squeeze me off at the weekends. I need, then, slavery from 118 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.840 me, because I feel like I' m not doing anything. I' 119 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.679 m not doing anything, but this one needs to be reasoned and rested a 120 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:41.360 little today. The other theme we have is that of Fofo Marquez. Remember, 121 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:43.840 we' ve been here since the beginning, since it started, since 122 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:48.840 many people asked us who Folfo Tuesday told them who this youtuber is or this 123 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:56.399 influencer, rather or youtubet prepotent influencer who has committed crime, who hits a 124 00:09:56.679 --> 00:10:00.639 woman savagely and that' s what they have in the Prison of Barrientos. 125 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.000 When he' s stopped, he smiles. He had already made a previous 126 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.080 video. One I don' t know if for Instagram tiktok that Nunde had 127 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:11.360 said here in the United States and I' m afraid in Mexico nothing ever 128 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:16.799 happens, because in the end it did happen, yes, it happened, 129 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:20.440 and then he' s arrested because this woman denounces him and starts defending him. 130 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:22.799 And no, he' s got nine lawyers. Sure. So, 131 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:28.440 what do you think you were accused of? I mean, this has been 132 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:33.840 like a week, like an Apple TV chapter that goes week by week of 133 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:39.120 premiere. No, and then the last chapter did already set him up for 134 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:46.279 femicide charges, for attempted femicide, not what many doubted if it was injuries, 135 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.120 because he was going to get out very quickly, a mul was over, 136 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.200 but for attempted femicide, which is heavily punished in Mexico, could be 137 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.360 up to forty years, twenty- five, forty years. So, well, 138 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:01.080 and then I follow Changlin and I follow Aunt Sandra, who are twitters 139 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:05.320 of a lot of information and I like them very much, because they say, 140 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:09.039 well, look, it' s not for intrigue, but Fofo Marquez 141 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:16.639 has a big brother and dad died and they own gas station concessions and there 142 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.480 ' s a lot of wool there. And so, then, what do 143 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:24.720 you think maybe, because the family, the lawyers put them in the company, 144 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:35.000 maybe we should have the relative inside rather than outside. And that' 145 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:43.360 s already a TV series obsessing well, because it' s totally coming to 146 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.480 light. That was known, but not by other means, but by them 147 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:50.240 researchers who bring all this out and says ah, look, I' m 148 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.600 going to talk to you and then, we already saw who is the brother 149 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.480 who is a little older than he is twenty- something years old. It 150 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:58.799 ' s not like either one of us is the super mature one. Then, 151 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:05.039 only this letter from the mother that where it seemed justified to my son 152 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.639 ' s doctor, could not do sports because it brings a callus. Well, 153 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:11.799 then, make an equal letter, but my son is well- repentant. 154 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:18.759 Sign the hoff mom, that is, a letter, Fofa' s 155 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:26.320 mom, and then there' s the fact that Mrs Edith Marquez doesn' 156 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:31.799 t come out, that' s what she' s called, who' 157 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:33.559 s affected by fofo. Marquez comes out and says no, because I didn 158 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:37.559 ' t feel that letter because the lady didn' t greet me and then 159 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:41.960 the fofo didn' t even say sorry when we saw each other there in 160 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:45.480 court, didn' t even hear forgiveness suddenly anything. So I don' 161 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:48.759 t believe the mom, the son or anything, Mrs La has been criticized 162 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:52.159 because she' s been on a media tour, because there' s been 163 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:54.399 an interview, because there' s another one. He' s given his 164 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:56.320 testimony. I don' t think it' s wrong. Unfortunately, we 165 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:03.080 have seen on this programme, which we have seen on this programme, in 166 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:05.320 this country, we have sometimes seen that we must raise our voices so that 167 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:11.039 they do not go out and justice is done. Okay. Finally, today 168 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:15.080 it is announced that fomenting, that has changed lawyers because because they do not 169 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:22.600 trust others that although they are nine, but they do not trust. Yeah, 170 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:26.360 so why are you going is that this sorry, melja fell on me, 171 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:31.639 but this happened the beating happened in February. Yeah, and that' 172 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:33.080 s where he' s stopped in April. So, there' s also 173 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:37.480 like you and you pulling, so weird not, but now you do. 174 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:41.360 Not if he said nine that he had now but of the nine that he 175 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:45.240 had now no more than four left because they are others. I don' 176 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:48.360 t think there are four new ones. And yes, probably because he didn 177 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.960 ' t have that confidence anymore. And how difficult not to have this kind 178 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:58.480 of fear, how difficult to think of the family this way for material interests, 179 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:01.919 but we also go back to myself, but because of the consequences of 180 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:03.440 your actions also, that is, we must not lose sight of it. 181 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:11.720 The origin of this situation that is currently being seen is the acts committed by 182 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.080 this person from a long time ago until it reached the gout, which spilled 183 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:20.799 the glass and which, in fact, this lady has already given several interviews 184 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:22.399 and so on. I wouldn' t criticize her either. That is why, 185 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.240 since it is indeed important, it is when it is forgotten and said 186 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:30.600 very well. And the truth is that, as Ephraim says, sometimes nothing 187 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.120 else seems to us. If she hadn' t gone out, they' 188 00:14:33.159 --> 00:14:35.879 d be telling her and why I didn' t come out too to tell 189 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.159 her how she lived it. Today someone' s hiding something, not and 190 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:43.679 not since they' re fixing under water. That' s why the lady 191 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:46.960 doesn' t show up, yes or no. Or, if it appeared 192 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:50.799 in one channel and in another not also, and why there and there is 193 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.600 not then did one thing as very democratic, not because it did come out 194 00:14:54.639 --> 00:15:00.279 as in many different media gradually. Not then, because I and I think 195 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.519 it' s okay, because the opposite, I ay hear says who' 196 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.799 s fixing or no more why he went to an exact place. I' 197 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:11.320 m on it. I agree. Fernanda del Río says that it loosens the 198 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:16.039 issue of Fofo, but it is that look is an extremely important issue Fernanda 199 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.960 if you live in the Mexican Republic, because you can no longer tolerate this 200 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:28.879 type of violence with impunity against anyone, against women or against anyone else. 201 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.960 And that' s important to follow. And if we could follow them, 202 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.879 more so that they become Ephraim, you see that they are. Friday I 203 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.759 was telling them. On Friday not like this, on Friday I was telling 204 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:46.879 you this letter. It seems like the family wants to get rid of him 205 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:48.159 and say how if that' s what' s already going on. I 206 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:50.360 didn' t tell me because then I got lost girls. I must if 207 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:54.679 my burning of what they tell me in the chantla and another day they wrote 208 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:56.720 to us. I don' t burn the truth. You' ve already 209 00:15:56.759 --> 00:16:00.600 been to me, I' m quiet, but if I do, yes, 210 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:03.000 angry, but no man, don' t worry, he says, 211 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:08.000 " Hey, I don' t think you' re really mom to see 212 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:12.960 this, but I' m done, mom to see you already saw how 213 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:15.000 the fopo mom was following didn' t want to wash our hands if they 214 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.679 saw it as accurate. Now what you do, what you say mel We 215 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:21.320 have to keep pointing out what you did. He' s not a victim. 216 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:23.600 If you want to take everything away, then why did you hit Mrs 217 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.559 Edit? No way. Of course, of course, of course, we 218 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:33.120 have to pay, because I understand that many people say already. I wouldn 219 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:36.759 ' t want to talk, because everyone has their way of seeing things here 220 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:40.840 happens to us very often. That is very interesting and I would like to 221 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:44.679 take advantage of the moment, because it seems that it burns and for which 222 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:47.240 lupita they say and because I am going to say this, we read them, 223 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:49.200 we listen to them. You' re very important to us. And 224 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:52.519 it' s like when you have kids and you' re going to eat 225 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.320 and see what they want not and they all start to look different, because 226 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:00.039 it' s champion, because you can' t not a little good like 227 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.600 that and you with a cheese and you without cheese. But up there, 228 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:04.400 I mean, you can' t do 80 things. There' s a 229 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:07.279 lot going on here that there are people who don' t talk about this 230 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:10.319 and they already realized the last thing that came out. And sometimes there are 231 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:14.160 people who say ay no to that issue, not just how lazy you are, 232 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:18.079 but also what you think is important because you remember that this program is 233 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:22.359 with all peace and is really a program of reflection and analysis. And if 234 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:26.839 one lets this issue die and we stop talking about it and being aware of 235 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:30.359 what is happening, it could happen what, unfortunately, has happened in other 236 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.200 cases. Yes, that' s a joke to skip the voice, but 237 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.200 the joke is to raise your voice in things that are right to be, 238 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.640 in things that are socially important, in things that do leave something, but 239 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:44.519 there will be things that will not be taken into account. For example, 240 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:45.960 to see is that this is one of the messages that to Ephraim and to 241 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:48.680 me burned to see se. I will read them and then I want you, 242 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:55.480 Josefa, Jerome Savior, to write to us. I would like to 243 00:17:55.559 --> 00:18:00.720 invite you all to engage in an exciting adventure of linguistic exploration. Often, 244 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:07.920 Guadalupe and Ephraim face is almost put face, asymoni Thus, Guadalupe and Ephraim 245 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:15.200 use words without considering their true meaning or context. I believe that fully understanding 246 00:18:15.240 --> 00:18:22.079 the meaning of words can enrich your conversations and strengthen your work as communicators. 247 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:30.400 Ephraim you know the meaning of the verb fanning is that we didn' t 248 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:37.200 say fanning was fun and it had nothing to do with it and it was 249 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:41.440 something else, dear Josefa, so lost heart is that there yes, for 250 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:44.839 what it feels. I' m not, but I' m already feeling 251 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:51.440 myself and I' m going to tell you look, but wait for me 252 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:53.759 a second fanning dear Josefa, there' s no fanning even exists. So 253 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:59.079 it' s very difficult to have the meaning of fanning. It would be 254 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:03.680 like admiring, but in superlative, no, but you did hear a lot 255 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:06.720 of sucker, a lot of sucker. And if that word, I think 256 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:11.920 it does exist. Start saying here no man, is that you were superlatively 257 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:18.359 admiring your idol. Oh, you don' t see God, Josefa, 258 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.519 for God' s sake. And the other word is funning that I think 259 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:26.599 there is even less and that rich adventure that invites us is fine to send 260 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:32.799 us the link and maybe until today, Ephraim you have to put vin cancel 261 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:36.799 and good forgiveness for being my Lenial, that is to say that suddenly we 262 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:40.960 are in the language, but it is that the language has to evolve, 263 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:44.640 that is before there was no click and it was not going to exist because 264 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:48.759 you already gave us on Twitter and it still exists exactly funear serious that is 265 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:52.599 to be as if I mentioned, no but do not notice. I mean, 266 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:56.960 they canceled it on all social networks for lives and because there' s 267 00:19:57.079 --> 00:20:03.640 a way to live and it' s not used either and they' re 268 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:08.960 not all asking that language even and stop saying apple, tell him apple and 269 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:14.839 waves like that, because why we won' t be able to say fanning 270 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:18.240 or funning or end also trusting. I already nice, pretending is like doing 271 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:23.319 something fine. Do something fine. That would be so lame, and I 272 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:26.000 don' t think it would work. Yeah, the funnel thing. As 273 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:30.319 Francís says, it is a cocnologist or ananglicism, as it is being included 274 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:36.160 in language and familiar. Also what happens is that they are not words included 275 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:40.160 yet in the real academy. But you don' t invite us to your 276 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:44.119 linguistic adventure, because I don' t have time to go on a linguistic 277 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:47.440 adventure. Hey, don' t venture what I was saying there, yeah, 278 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:51.480 I felt a little happy. I don' t, because nobody here 279 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:53.599 is perfect, because that doesn' t exist. Nor is this a not 280 00:20:53.640 --> 00:21:00.680 the happy word if calm and pablo, boulosa, welcome and hopefully, but 281 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:06.839 but and yes you can say it with all peace and also with all pride. 282 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.559 I believe that this is a programme where, in general terms and for 283 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:18.680 the most part, we are concerned or concerned to speak well, unlike other 284 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:22.279 programmes that are very religable, but which is not within their sphere of interest, 285 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:26.519 to use language in the best way. That' s why it' 286 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.119 s such a comment. Imagine if they put it somewhere else, I don 287 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:30.920 ' t know what would happen. I' m going, yeah, no, 288 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:34.160 no, not really. Yeah, not that much going on, is 289 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:38.079 this entertainment? This is entertainment. We are not, indeed Pablo Bollos, 290 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.480 who I love the work of Pablo Bollos. It' s what he does 291 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:47.519 and he knows and I think I' ve followed him all my life and 292 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:49.039 I love his work and all his team, I love the whole team. 293 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:53.359 I love that job. But, well, we' re going to continue 294 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.359 because Isla inter vas did it again. He did it again. He did 295 00:21:56.359 --> 00:22:00.519 it again. I don' t know, and I wonder if anyone in 296 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:07.480 the audience can tell me what he studied as an islander Vest career I don 297 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:11.640 ' t know if he has a college degree or a diploma. It is 298 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.519 also very valid that fifteen graduates of a materite have been awarded very well. 299 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:25.319 But why islander Ves has been channeled with these gurus of health, mental health, 300 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:33.160 physical health, discovery, spirituality, knowledge of the beyond within the Massacá 301 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:38.640 and waves like that, why did it come to that which I am crying 302 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:45.160 my gun, but it is out there. Chiquita, yes, there are 303 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.359 visual arts lupita by the University of New York. Not that, I don 304 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:49.839 ' t doubt it, I don' t doubt it. He does very 305 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:53.759 nice things, but he has no speciality in mental health. He has nothing 306 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:59.359 to do with nutrition, because now he did it again. Now she interviewed 307 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:06.079 a very nice nutrient and we did not talk nice to see, speak to 308 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:08.359 us Ephraim tell us. What they said to me bothers me that I always 309 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:11.680 say that I am very disruptive and that it is a word with which I 310 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:15.680 identify myself. Then the broad. I' m sorry to utrologist. There 311 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:18.279 ' s the one I' m going to try, no offense, but 312 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:19.599 it' s just skitish. I will try to be very patient and, 313 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:25.880 from our profession, embrace her and from love, tell her everything I think 314 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:30.920 to raquel lobatón. Ayo you already say angelo, baton I' m going 315 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.200 to interrupt you and I' m going to do an Efraba and a cork. 316 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:41.119 I met Efra Baby and Dr Amel when we did a show and I 317 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.640 remember I was still there. It seems to me poncho that we did it 318 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:52.720 with respect to the cover of Michel Rodríguez in the Mericleire, in the magazine 319 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:56.799 Américleir and then they wrote to me. They were hordes telling me inquite that 320 00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:03.240 nutriologist to ask the Baton you invited her because she is anti scale and she 321 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.559 is very good. Then I wrote to the nutritionist Cat He told her I 322 00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:10.480 ' d want to come. We' re going to have a debate about 323 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:14.680 we' re going to talk about this, this and so on. No. 324 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:18.640 I couldn' t go and talk bad about Michel Rodriguez' s body. 325 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:19.680 I said. No. I' m asking you to come speak ill 326 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:22.920 of Michel Rodriguez' s body. I' m telling you we' re 327 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:25.960 gonna talk about health, but that' s what you' re inviting me 328 00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:27.960 for. No, no, I' m inviting you to talk about Michel 329 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:32.519 Rodriguez' s body. I am talking to you about the importance of nutrition 330 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:34.319 and the message that is given through the media. No. No, no, 331 00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:37.599 no, what you want is for me to do and well, now, 332 00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:41.200 God, bye and then he didn' t want to come. Then 333 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:48.640 go on Ephra babys know what a complicated woman, because this is when I 334 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:53.359 realize how knowing gives us power and how sad when knowing is in someone' 335 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:56.960 s hands pere verse and I' m going to tell you why, because 336 00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:03.559 it' s serious. She has well- learned concepts and knows how to 337 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.480 grasp the truth. And then the truth is that this sheet of paper, 338 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:15.720 which is so clean, since so, but so it unfolds and says it 339 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.920 does not look at that truth. No, this is why it' s 340 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:25.359 all bent and it' s the truth. The truth. Then I worry 341 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:29.359 tremendously, because there are things you know. What I do with psychonutrition, 342 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.759 that is, I dedicate myself to reconciliation with my own body, to working 343 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:37.680 from this emotional place, to be able to lose weight and all that from 344 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.799 that place. But then she says to be pesocentric. It' s wrong, 345 00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:47.400 she says to use the scale. It' s wrong, she says 346 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:49.319 things she' s right about. I mean, we' re in a 347 00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:52.680 world where the hegemonic beauty you' ve talked about so much is celebrated. 348 00:25:52.799 --> 00:26:00.200 Yeah, but instead of her saying there' s a range, there' 349 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:06.079 s your kind of weight, body shapes and so on, she' s 350 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:10.759 all the time blaming the system we live in for a lot of issues. 351 00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:14.839 Not then she says how you' re going to get mad at a person 352 00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:18.559 because maybe she can only eat Czechs and so on. It is that what 353 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.759 we would have to understand the heart, because it already speaks of diets being 354 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:27.680 classist and colonialist and is right to a certain extent. The point of all 355 00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:33.960 this is that she would have to tell me why if she' s an 356 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:36.839 activist, because she says she' s an anti- fatophobia activist. There 357 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:41.640 ' s no need to barbarize what' s so impressive and why your consultation 358 00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.519 costs 2, 000 pesos in a third- class country and you' re 359 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:49.799 an activist, a social fighter and you' re comfortable with the system and 360 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.519 all these things, why you sell a clear system, I mean it' 361 00:26:53.559 --> 00:27:03.160 s not being clear to me, then it' s to beat a lot 362 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:07.079 of concepts to it and start slicing reality in a way that people who are 363 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:11.680 and aren' t wrong and I say it with a lot of respect and 364 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.519 I tell you from love, that they' re ignorant because someone wouldn' 365 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:15.559 t have to know it, because someone isn' t nutritionist, nuitist or 366 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:21.279 dee te. They are far from it, because they are so enthralled because 367 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:25.559 she speaks very nice, that is to say she talks about the kidnapping of 368 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:26.920 the word diet and see she is very skillful and I am very angry. 369 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.400 I was talking to my classmates. I' m going to make, folks, 370 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:34.880 but I was watching the video and I was already angry because it says 371 00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:38.200 clear, clear and come out the nutritionists and tell me, because you don 372 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:42.839 ' t know that everything a person eats a diet. But I' m 373 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.680 talking about the kidnapping of the word. Well, if you' re an 374 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:51.960 activist and you' re so concerned that the diet culture, hijacked by the 375 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:56.960 word diet, stops referring to you from the word hijacked heart and starts educating 376 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:04.000 the public. He treats the public as he deserves, with respect, speaking 377 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:08.880 to them with the truth, not making a child. It' s just 378 00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:14.920 that it' s gonna be a really ugly word pooping the truth and giving 379 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.400 them to spoons. Then another one talks about body diversity. It is expected 380 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:26.559 that a person comes to body diversity, but romanticizes being fat because being fat 381 00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.160 is never going to be okay. I' m sorry and I' m 382 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.960 not fatophobic. You really know it' s the same way being extremely thin 383 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:41.880 isn' t exactly and what she doesn' t say. Let' s 384 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.400 talk about certain ranges, let' s see so many things and then start 385 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:51.279 talking about fear and that the fear of eating will make us fat. Now 386 00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:56.279 there are things that can be true. If I' m too afraid to 387 00:28:56.279 --> 00:28:59.720 eat, the cortisol will go to heaven and the shell that I ate the 388 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.839 body will report it as if it were four shells. That may happen, 389 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.880 it' s real, but I can' t eat with St Diary, 390 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:14.000 that' s this thing that she says we can' t live thinking and 391 00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:15.200 measuring food, which is that yes, we have to live. So, 392 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:19.400 because you' ll see my dearest raquel lobatón and I' ll call you 393 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:23.519 to have a debate and I' ll tell you straight ahead and I' 394 00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:29.720 ll tell you why. The system you' re attacking was the one that 395 00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:33.279 told us not to weigh and measure the food, because the popcorn in the 396 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:38.160 movies are now a tambo. Yeah, yeah, that' s true, 397 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.960 and that comes from the First World. Raquel, why do you want to 398 00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:48.839 deceive us you think you speak of colonialism, of classism and whiteness, because 399 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:57.319 you are saying that a system that what I am going to say fat has 400 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:06.640 been applauded, celebrated and defended by the system. Because she says that the 401 00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:08.519 system tells us that we don' t have to be old, that we 402 00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.920 don' t have to be fat and that we don' t have to 403 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:19.720 be ugly and that then the system sells us a lot of heart things, 404 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:22.319 the system gives us fast food, but now the system gives us extra size 405 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.440 that we didn' t have before. For you alone to fit your grave, 406 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:33.279 you need to measure portions to learn to be balanced. And here' 407 00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:37.559 s the lady' s speech is if you stop being afraid to eat whatever 408 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.480 it is, because she says it' s more than no food, blackmailer 409 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:47.599 or whatever. How dare you, how dare you in a world where they 410 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:51.440 exist I will not say brands, but potatoes, chips, pizzas, burgers, 411 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:57.599 what is the amount of crap. And in a world where, especially 412 00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:03.559 in Mexico, the consumption of many things is not regulated, because the issue 413 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:10.039 of stamps and I was the first critic of stamps is a fallacy. He 414 00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:14.640 dares to say that we can eat what we want and that only if we 415 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:18.720 mentalize so we don' t think we' re going to get fat, 416 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:23.359 we won' t get fat. And besides, blaming, blaming colonialism and 417 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:27.440 classism, when if she talks about colonialism, classism will give you a clue 418 00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:34.599 that wolfatom people who really don' t have to make the basic basket. 419 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.799 If you are a social activist, you should go out and point out to 420 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:48.960 the President of the Republic and tell him that here, in Mexico, the 421 00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.440 basic chain is not healthy, because it does not reach the exact money. 422 00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:53.960 Now it' s all you' d have to go out. Saying hey 423 00:31:55.039 --> 00:32:00.519 doesn' t happen here look at my Ursula. I' m enrolled here 424 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.119 for alien language classes. Greetings to you. I love the show. I 425 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:08.000 ' m very pleased. Marco, hey. Thank you. That' s 426 00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:15.960 the point of forgetting this nutriologist who in Mexico for many years has been much 427 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:23.839 cheaper for the family. It is buying a soda with sugar, that buying 428 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:30.319 milk, of course, that buying meat is unattainable, that buying fish is 429 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:35.200 unattainable, that buying chicken, that buying protein is unattainable for families. Then 430 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.200 say you don' t have to measure and be afraid. No. If 431 00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:39.839 you have, I have to see it' s not that you' re 432 00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:43.000 afraid of him. You have to have respect for food. Of course, 433 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:47.319 the people we fatten up might know. I' m not going to weigh 434 00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:51.440 every gram of meat I' m going to but I' m going to 435 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:52.839 measure when I put on some cookies to make as many of me as I 436 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:58.599 eat in this matter. Let' s see then the title of the Islinder 437 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.359 Best podcast with the doctor, with this nutritionist, who is not a good 438 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:07.920 doctor, not a doctor, but good nutritionist refers to the fear that gives 439 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:08.640 you food. That' s what they say you' re getting fat. 440 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:15.079 One of the factors. Me being thinking because they say it has to do 441 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:16.960 with the system and it' s going to tell them one thing. That 442 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:23.519 ' s when these concepts are poorly accommodated, because yes, the fear of 443 00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.480 getting fat is going to be getting fat. It' s real. That 444 00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:30.000 ' s real because it raises the cortisol and it also has to do with 445 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.680 biological issues here. Hey, but let' s see if I can raise 446 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:38.240 your cortisol out of fear is because the shell attacked you yes clear two, 447 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:43.599 that is, when I discharge cortisol, is that iced sweats hears a noodle 448 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.880 soup, you will not raise the cortisol, that is not. And I 449 00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:51.880 ' ll tell you one thing. What' s the problem is that a 450 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.559 noodle sopit is even paying for the light, because I' m very angry 451 00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:00.279 a noodle sopite is going to generate that you' re happy it' s 452 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.759 going to generate endorphins and the light index is going to go to heaven. 453 00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:07.519 And instead of wanting to eat half or little noodle topitas, as you feel 454 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:13.360 hugged, you' re going to say another little, another half pot. 455 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:22.199 The thing is, she' s with us when you' re gonna be 456 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:28.639 talking Ephraim, but little is hugging us. Yeah, the same thing you 457 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.960 eat a slice of pizza that he' s me He' s bread that 458 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:38.159 you say Oh, what' s so funny pizza reminds me of my sporadic 459 00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:39.320 And when you need happiness, sometimes, but it' s not exactly the 460 00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.840 same thing. That' s why a life. So, at Christmas we 461 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:52.239 don' t eat salmon with vegetables, I mean, we should not, 462 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:53.679 but it' s a party I mean. The thing about this woman is 463 00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.639 that she uses a lot of tension, or that they don' t talk 464 00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.400 about whiteness anymore. A person so bleached I want to kill her forgiveness, 465 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:06.280 that is when a person who is very bleached and again go check out what, 466 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:10.480 which is this agrocentist issue, because the woman is very bleached and then 467 00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:15.079 she is already telling her no, because then the privileges and I heart of 468 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:20.239 my life. Your consult costs 2, 000 pesos. Yes, a Mexican, 469 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:24.320 but you can pay fortnightly. Ta is fortnightly or fifteen, that is, 470 00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:30.880 four thousand four thousand pesos. I' m going to ale you and 471 00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:34.920 what' s going on with the vis Should you start with the super imbod 472 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.559 and Super? Super? Super? Super? Mbody ulta thousand, i e, 473 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:44.239 that ends up in the past life, life gives you is telling you 474 00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.679 you are fat, because in the past life I was telling you where, 475 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:55.840 you ate a lot, I mean, you say if a person who goes 476 00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:00.400 out with infulas of activist and is not thinking. You really believe that fifty 477 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:04.719 percent of the population in Mexico can pay two thousand pesos, not fortnightly, 478 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.719 no, don' t think about a lot of cost, because it doesn 479 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:10.360 ' t have any nonsense and I really don' t want to. I 480 00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:13.840 don' t want to touch her. I invite you to see until we 481 00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:19.079 have a serious debate and that it was exactly tacos to the pastor. As 482 00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.000 Javier says, yes, not a serious debate, of course, because you 483 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:27.320 know, you know how to see it like that. I thank you infinitely 484 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:29.840 that you did not want to come to the program because that' s how 485 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.840 I met Ephraim. That' s how Ephraim came. We met him and 486 00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.119 he' s still with us and I loved that idea, but I felt 487 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.320 like she was so scared to look bad. I think she' s a 488 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.039 nutritionist who' s kind of good at it. Not then I' ll 489 00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.760 tell you. It' s like you' re going to see a psychiatrist 490 00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:52.880 and instead of being told and you know what it' s time for you 491 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:57.599 to think about it and take your mind off the matter and put them on 492 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.000 his moon and tell you what you want to hear if you' re wrong 493 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:01.320 with yourself, your world is bad for you, because poor thing, you 494 00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:04.440 ' re the victim. That' s how I feel he' s more 495 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.880 or less the nutritionist. No. No, no, man, you' 496 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:08.719 ve been told by other nutritionists that you have to drop 30 kilos. No. 497 00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:09.320 No, no? Don' t you? Don' t you? 498 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:15.760 No, forget it no, well, and besides, you know that I 499 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:22.159 think the point is that you can say from honesty and responsibility what you have 500 00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:27.519 to say in a respectful and correct way and nothing happens. I mean, 501 00:37:27.519 --> 00:37:30.360 you don' t have to be as scared as you say not to look 502 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.079 good or not. And I agree as far as I can understand, because 503 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.960 obviously, it is not mine of the specialty, as it is defrain, 504 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:40.119 but it does show that she takes many concepts that are real, but she 505 00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:45.320 combines them in another way and then she ends up doing what we also often 506 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.960 point out here that so many people do, because she ends up being a 507 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:54.360 kind of sophism, because she takes true premises, evil combines them and then 508 00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:58.400 she reaches a conclusion that is not truthful. For example, something as simple 509 00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.440 as saying that there is no junk food. He said that all food is 510 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:08.559 food, because that is very basic to be challenged for the simple and simple 511 00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:15.159 reason that a food that does not have nutrients and that does have harmful elements, 512 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.079 such as conservatives, many dyes, excess salt that we know the effect 513 00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:23.079 that has to raise blood pressure, that they promote the development of many diseases. 514 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:30.559 Like why it would be considered, like other foods that do have great 515 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:36.599 nutritional richness and that help build muscles and tissues and so on. How could 516 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:43.199 that be denied not from its recognized exasting logic. I mean, then she 517 00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.400 says if we take the question maybe now I' m going to make my 518 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:51.599 personal sophism. So if I do my scotch diet in the morning and then 519 00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:58.760 donuts bimbox is pure. Thank you for my nice bimbo and in the afternoon 520 00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:00.760 I go to the gym. That' s gonna get me enough protein for 521 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:04.920 the muscle and with your coke in it and of course not, of course 522 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.199 not, I like coke with sugar. I' d take her without sugar, 523 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.800 but that would give me. That would make me have protein, if 524 00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:13.639 it doesn' t matter. No. But besides, I don' t 525 00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:15.480 have to measure. I don' t have to measure it, because you 526 00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:20.840 ' re going to mentalize and from that place you' re going to channel 527 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.880 everything, that is, it has a lot to do with nir two corance 528 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:25.880 what it' s called, because you know every four that was the same 529 00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:30.440 thing he said. Illnesses are, I mean, everything. I do, 530 00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:36.079 I think the universe inhabits us. But from there to then, no, 531 00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.840 because don' t help yourself, help yourself that I will help you raise 532 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:45.360 me exactly, because imagine that I am a psychologist, besides being a psychoanalyst, 533 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:52.400 because for me it would be a glory to adhere to that form of 534 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:54.199 thought saying clearly because all the mind in the mind is everything and if you 535 00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:55.239 already relax and say, this won' t affect me. It does not 536 00:39:55.239 --> 00:40:01.360 affect me, because sadly it is not, because all diseases include this or 537 00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:07.480 any disease that has to do with food behavior, which are several or many, 538 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:15.159 because they constitute different elements, not one. Diseases are multifactorial and there 539 00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:19.880 are some of those factors that are more determining than others, but all have 540 00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:25.840 to do with genetics, undoubtedly the social environment in which you develop the economy. 541 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:32.400 Without any doubt and of course also mental functioning. But, notice, 542 00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:37.320 mental functioning is more precisely put, for example, in matters of self- 543 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:42.800 esteem, in matters of responsibility. How happy for you and why you choose 544 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:46.360 it for that extraordinary film, the whale, that impacted us very much to 545 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:50.800 those who saw it, because there it is thinking or it is showing, 546 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:54.039 in fact, a very serious mental condition, in which the person destroys himself, 547 00:40:55.079 --> 00:41:02.719 generating this problem of obesity indisputably mortal, as it happens in the film. 548 00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:08.519 But it' s not that, it' s not the only cause 549 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:10.960 like by then, already, when I' m not afraid and I' 550 00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:15.360 m happy, it' s settled, not then you' ll be in 551 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.159 condition if your mind is as balanced as possible. You will be in a 552 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:22.119 position to make better decisions, to do what is right for you, to 553 00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.760 self- regulate, to know that you do have to set limits as you 554 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:30.119 put them for so many things in life, from bed to three in the 555 00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:32.480 afternoon. If you have to work and you have to make the effort to 556 00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:37.639 stand up equal, to share, as Ephraim says or to select, then 557 00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:39.440 that is so. Listen, you know that, for example, it says 558 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:43.960 that as if it were, this is the carla medina point that says how 559 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.559 and if it were as easy as everything is in the mind think differently, 560 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:50.480 because it doesn' t exist in our career Dr Amel. Indeed, that 561 00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:55.400 is the point. Of course the head has a lot to do with it, 562 00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:59.360 of course the mind has a lot to do with it, but isn 563 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:00.960 ' t it magic? Don' t you? Don' t you? 564 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.920 I do, I have magic wands. I do, I' ve got 565 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.239 everything that' s really lame, but it' s not magic. The 566 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.760 mental question has to do with attitude, it has to do with that. 567 00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.599 But not with I' m going to drop two kilos, I' m 568 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:15.760 going to get off you. No, no, no, no, no, 569 00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.760 no, no, Ephraim, you wanted to say something. If a 570 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:24.159 person believes in mental health and believes that nutrition is directly related to the emotional 571 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:29.280 system, it is me because precisely this in psychology. Not then, otherwise, 572 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.719 there would be no way, because I thought I put it that way 573 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:37.920 with nutrition. It wasn' t enough, which is because she says she 574 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:44.280 has patients returning to her heart. Yeah, be careful what you' re 575 00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:49.239 doing wrong,' cause exactly, hey, look, she says see a 576 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:50.920 nutritionist who says nothing' s wrong with you. Accept your body is like 577 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:55.480 a dentist. Carias are your friends. Throw the brush out of the caries, 578 00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:00.519 that' s good, at least, from that place. Not discerning 579 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:06.000 that there are good qualities and others. Not so much in what we put 580 00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:07.920 into our body, not from that place, because if not, they' 581 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:12.280 re also going to say that we' re already adding things that don' 582 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.440 t, that is she' s going to say accept your body and want 583 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:15.760 it the way it is. Okay, because besides, this is the principle 584 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:21.000 that accepting your body is taking care of it in the first place. If 585 00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:22.960 they know that and I' m burning up that if I burn the net 586 00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:28.400 this subject when they talk about whiteness, classism and so on, because I 587 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.760 feel I' ve put in them very cannons and my companions know it. 588 00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:37.199 Then suddenly we made the dish of good eat mesh And it was very painful 589 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.039 to see that there is no money for people on foot to make a healthy 590 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:47.800 food plan so that the lady who charges two thousand pesos, the consult is 591 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:53.079 telling me to eat whatever she wants. When there are people who with two 592 00:43:53.239 --> 00:44:00.000 thousand pesos is going to be the super of the month, the month for 593 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.360 four people. I mean, totally out of reality. And I do challenge 594 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:08.159 her to a serious debate, because she hasn' t gone with anyone who 595 00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:13.039 ' s at the level of forgiveness, forgiveness. Your visuals are beautiful and 596 00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:16.199 I think they' re beautiful, but not if it' s not your 597 00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.480 theme, it' s not hear there' s an issue and that yes, 598 00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.360 we can' t deny it. Yes, yes, there is fatophobia, 599 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.800 as there are other phobias. Of course, there is the fatophobia and 600 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.400 of course I have pointed out and of course yes, but that is why 601 00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:38.480 we want to fight without addressing the problem of obesity crises that many countries suffer, 602 00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:44.800 because that affects people' s health. It' s a disease that 603 00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:47.840 can lead to death, that you can chain in diseases like diabetes, like 604 00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:53.440 hypertension, like cancers, like in other words, it can lead to many 605 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:58.079 serious things. One thing is, we can' t tolerate fatophobia. No, 606 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.400 you can' t deny someone a normal one because they' re fat, 607 00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:06.480 but you can' t celebrate a person who encourages people to continue cultivating 608 00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:12.400 a health problem either. It' s like a diabetic name you are, 609 00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:16.119 a diabetic, leave what you eat to your spoonfuls of sugar. Well, 610 00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:23.360 no, because it' s not a health and public health problem in this 611 00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:29.760 phobia thing that there are homophobic people, there are fat people, there are 612 00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:31.440 xerophobic people. So many phobias that exist, because they are real and exist. 613 00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:36.599 They exist. And what has to be done with phobias is not to 614 00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:45.960 encourage the disease or the issue to be treated, but to destigmatize a fat 615 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:51.239 person, because the fat word has no emotional burden. It' s just 616 00:45:51.239 --> 00:45:54.679 a word. The fat person is not to blame for being fat and will 617 00:45:54.800 --> 00:46:01.679 tell you something my dear raquel lobatón. When you' re in sauces, 618 00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.480 you' re putting it in a vulnerable place too, because you' re 619 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:09.719 putting a load on it. Then he doesn' t do anything, it 620 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:13.079 ' s okay, not what you think. Yeah, something' s wrong, 621 00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.599 because we do have to be responsible. Something happened at least I was 622 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.599 a fat kid and I' m gonna tell you something. I' ve 623 00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:23.920 always said. I have a very flaccid belly because I was very fat and 624 00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.280 that responsibility of my mom who gave me bad eating. But when I was 625 00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.440 a 14- year- old boy, I said this isn' t right. 626 00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.960 Exactly, I' m going to lose weight. I mean, it 627 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.480 ' s about taking away, I would have wanted me in elementary school not 628 00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:42.559 to be called fat, fat, and exact. Sure Mira says here, 629 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.440 look Suzel. It doesn' t look like it says. It' d 630 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.800 be nice if you could get more information, because you definitely don' t 631 00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:51.719 understand fatophobia. We understand. But this program is not even about terms. 632 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.559 As Josefina told us, it' s called no, no, nothing. 633 00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.679 We talk, yeah, we know fatophobia, yeah, you know what the 634 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:04.719 suffering of people means. Of course jobs are denied, of course there are 635 00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:09.519 many, but it is also with many other phobias. Of course, no 636 00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:14.920 one has said that we don' t know how groo we understand it. 637 00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:19.480 What you can' t do is go wrong informing people. They say why 638 00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.119 they don' t attack anyone. He' s attacking no one. We 639 00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.800 are more pointing out what this nutritionist has said on the Isline program, which 640 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:31.679 apparently invites fashionable gurus. As I said at the beginning of the program, 641 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:37.679 I don' t know what you mean by landing the subject that' s 642 00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:38.239 like I don' t know what you mean. I think it' s 643 00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:44.039 very clear. You can' t go through life making gurus or people who 644 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:50.400 distort truths or people who misreport like wanting to look good, not because, 645 00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.719 like you said before we already went into the air Frayn, that is, 646 00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:57.920 I' m not telling you. Don' t go see the doctor, 647 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:04.079 the doctor who studied fifteen years a specialty, but he does ask forty zero 648 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:07.480 to near two cora for a three- day course in your light that gives 649 00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.320 you accurate broccoli, that is. And with regard to Slider, you see 650 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.559 clearly that we are quoting all this precisely, because it is she who limits 651 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:20.239 it and it is she who, moreover, having her own ideas, some 652 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:21.880 of them were not that bad either. And it turns out that at the 653 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:25.000 time he' s with this person in the interview he puts a face of 654 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:29.320 surprise and oh I' ve been wrong all my life because he doesn' 655 00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:35.159 t even feel able or I don' t know if he' s questioning 656 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:38.920 and saying to see don' t excuse me what his name is he named 657 00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:40.320 Pilan I don' t remember. Right now, it' s gone, 658 00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:44.400 but good to tell you, hey, but not to see. Explain to 659 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.320 me how there' s no junk. Yeah, he' s got this 660 00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:49.400 and this and this and he' s missing this. Explain to me why 661 00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:52.960 you say it' s not how that could give some benefit to my body, 662 00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:54.519 even if it can give me a lot of pleasure. That' s 663 00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:58.719 clear to me and we all do it and whatever you want, but don 664 00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:00.159 ' t tell me it' s the same thing, or explain why it 665 00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:04.559 would be the same. I don' t understand it, because the chains 666 00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.519 of amino acids and I don' t know what everything a muthrologist could explain, 667 00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:12.239 I don' t understand how they would be equated in a case of 668 00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.199 a schettos and in a case of a breast- fed support to say then 669 00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:20.239 I should have maybe asked him there and I want to ask you Ephraim if 670 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.679 you could tell me what' s getting hungry here. It says malnutrition generates 671 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.880 all that and claims to be thin or fat. It doesn' t say 672 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.679 whether or not a stranger is healthy. It is clear to me that there 673 00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:35.719 is indeed no. It' s clear to me if very overweight people could 674 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:37.800 be so good. Not that. He told Ephraim. That' s what 675 00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.679 Ephraim did. Being, I mean, it doesn' t have to do 676 00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.000 with you being skinny or fat, but let' s see this one. 677 00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:52.639 But when you are considerably overweight, there is likely to be a propensity for 678 00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:59.119 disease or not or not. And don' t mean to see if it 679 00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:00.039 ' s a person who gained weight because it' s too fat. But, 680 00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.199 for example, a person who has a thyroid problem. She' s 681 00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.440 not going to be able to lose weight, because she' s Sana, 682 00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:08.199 she' s going to be healthy with her overweight. But she goes to 683 00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:12.679 Sandra, because the subject of this, of what she' s telling me, 684 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:15.400 is that this is a person who' s chubby because she has thyroid 685 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:20.159 problem. He' s gonna eat rough and he' s gonna be sloppy. 686 00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:22.199 For now, now, now, I have accepted myself, I have 687 00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.159 accepted myself. And then I' ll tell you one thing. What I 688 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:27.800 ' m going to do with all the people who accept and have diabetes, 689 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:30.920 have hypertension, and have major metabolic problems. What I' m going to 690 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:36.400 do is tell them to take care of your diabetes, because well, then 691 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:37.039 your friend' s gonna come out of your loom. I do, I 692 00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:42.760 invite you to debate your moon. Tell yourself I' m happy about life. 693 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.679 Whatever they want me to bat is gonna come out the miscart cora or 694 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.159 I don' t know what this güey' s called. It is also 695 00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:54.000 to say that then the obesity patients, because obesity is a disease, Mrs 696 00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:59.480 Raquel, is a disease, you have to treat it as a disease. 697 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:04.599 Please, it' s a disease. Eye overweight isn' t a disease, 698 00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:07.119 it' s a situation. Obesity is a disease, you have to 699 00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:13.039 treat it as it is. And he' s saying creepy things, because 700 00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:21.639 it' s like we' re going out to say that all people who 701 00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:24.079 have a problem taking some mental health medication don' t do it and they 702 00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:28.320 ' re going to be okay. No, no, and you know what 703 00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:31.519 this kind of gurus characters, as Lupita says, are trying to take away 704 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:37.760 from people something that this generation doesn' t like to be responsible for their 705 00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:45.360 exact actions, and that' s desperate, because this character comes out who 706 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.679 also says that he has his card and the whole thing to give some, 707 00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:54.320 to sell, because that' s selling some speeches to take responsibility from people 708 00:51:54.440 --> 00:52:00.800 and just giving him placebos. How sad, how sad and how hungry you 709 00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:06.119 must be. And I' m saying it myself to be so miserable with 710 00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:15.000 our profession that sacred really play in such a mean and dirty way and I 711 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.800 already have a joke. No, no, no, no, no, 712 00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 713 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 714 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 715 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 716 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 717 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 718 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 719 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 720 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 721 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 722 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 723 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 724 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 725 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 726 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 727 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:20.360 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 728 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.920 no. But I was fine because we wanted to hear from you the one 729 00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.840 who knows the question of this subject. The issue because you had to solve 730 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:34.440 it yourself, and it would be interesting if you had a debate notice that 731 00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:38.559 you make things very clear, Ephraim, very very clear, and another day 732 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:44.320 we could solve more questions about nutrition, because yes, I think the market 733 00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.400 of fallacies is flooded. Yeah, hey, you have to steal Roben' 734 00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:50.400 s dress now, yeah, you' re encouraged to come here after I 735 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:53.920 tell you that it' s here with all peace, but that if a 736 00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:58.039 dialogue to better understand these concepts of yours. Not because suddenly, well, 737 00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:00.800 Ephraim already said what he, what he thinks, what' s going on 738 00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:06.239 there. What I see is also a rather remarkable need to stand out and 739 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.800 that is why to be named in such a way and in such a way. 740 00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:14.400 I' m not a nutritionist anymore. I' m not the nutritionist, 741 00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:17.360 the arutriologist says like that, no more disruptive of all. I' 742 00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:20.360 m different, I' m special. That is to say, I see 743 00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.079 a desire also, at best, to draw attention and many errors in speech. 744 00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:27.639 I already told them georg with that I already shut up, but this 745 00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:31.280 part because I really liked this thing about the thought and logic of dialectics, 746 00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:37.400 which is how you go chaining one idea with another to reach a conclusion. 747 00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:44.880 And there she manages a very wrong and dialectical cheat like this comparison that the 748 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.639 glink stayed as well as impacted and tells her wow when she says if two 749 00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:52.400 identical twins are separated at birth, one sends him to live in one place 750 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:58.119 of extreme poverty conditions and another in one place of much development and all the 751 00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:02.079 best living conditions, and they send the same food to the two and eat 752 00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:09.000 them as each one. But under these different circumstances they' re going to 753 00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:12.840 be just as healthy and say otherwise. Well, no, and she says 754 00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.360 you see, then we' re not what we eat. That' s 755 00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:17.840 called fallacies. Sure, he' s a sophism. That' s a 756 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:21.400 trade, that' s a trap. Because it' s not or. 757 00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.039 And then, there' s the Mister Doctor, when he does his analysis 758 00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:27.760 that I saw he says no because the other better doesn' t wash his 759 00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:28.760 hands. I don' t know what' s gonna get sick. It 760 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.280 ' s another thing, but not because the food for what the other doesn 761 00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:32.880 ' t want it and it' s something else. Anyway, but, 762 00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:39.519 of course, the fair comparison would have been for two people living in the 763 00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:45.519 same magnificent or terrible circumstances to feed themselves differently. That would have been the 764 00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:50.559 right comparison if we were talking about exact food. But I want to ask 765 00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:53.440 you you look sorry you' re going to joke. But invite me to 766 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:58.920 Namia, invite me. It' s the world, an ideal world. 767 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:02.960 Well, it' s time to say goodbye to go to history in history. 768 00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:07.800 Thank you for being here in all peace, Thank you for your likes, 769 00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:12.480 thank you for sharing, for the messages you leave us, for comments, 770 00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:15.880 for everything, for the stars on Facebook. Thank you. They' 771 00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:19.159 re in Spreaker, in Spotify, in iTunes, in Amazon Music. Thank 772 00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:22.559 you, Doctor, see you later, Doctor. Thank you, thank you, 773 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:30.440 Efra Baby. Thank you, guys, and consult. Now I love 774 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.239 you all. Bye. Bye,