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Hey, everybody, Welcome to the
episode of the Challenge, the podcast all

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about the Challenge as always, I
am Brian, recently returned from what is

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apparently a shitty shitty town called Portland, big uh city, sitting in Minnesota.

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I don't have anything clever, Carlan, I'm that's okay, carl in

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San Diego and sitting at work has
always opened. The boss doesn't show up.

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Zachu bananas. Everybody had every challenge
bout dot Com joined the Facebook group.

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You can also join our Patreon and
listen to the conversation we just had

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about Tim's trip to Portland. Very
exciting stuff. Guys worth money was worth

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paying money for? Yeah? We
and also joined our Instagram. It's very

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exciting. I totally didn't post any
all this past week. Look good you're

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following in that the other social media
things. I set the expectations at the

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beginning of the year, at the
beginning of the season that I would try

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Yeah, no, you fit right
in a big good chance that I would

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just this is what all of us
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some sort of social media thing and
then it's like, I know, this

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is like it's actual work. Hey, I mean I also, I have

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my own Instagram, I have my
business Instagram, I have the lady's Instagram,

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and I have this one, so
trying to run all four of them

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is just Oh and I have the
dog. Your dog is an Instagram.

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Yeah. I made it years ago
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my friends with puppy pictures, and
I have barely kept up with it since

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then. Marco's got her own Instagram. She does my dog. Winnie used

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to have her own live journal.
Remember that one Wolf? Was it just

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wolf Wolf? I don't remember Jamie. Maybe ex Jamie made it when it

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looks like you Carlin, oh lovely. None of my animalsn't ever had any

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social media. Good Zach, you're
a normal man. Good for you.

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Stay strong, keep doing that.
All right, are we starting this episode

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or what? Yeah, let's take
notes, right, I did episode seven.

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It's an odd one, so I
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Did you guys notice this week Paramount
plus started this unskippable promotions? Bullshit,

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I'm fucking pissed about this. When
you start an episode it like it

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plays, you just have to back
out and restart it. Oh? Is

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that? That? Is that the
secret. All right, I'm gonna try

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it. Let me skip it?
So did it. Sometimes it puts the

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skip button, but it didn't include
it this week and I tried fast forwarding

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and it won't start. It won't
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Yeah, I noticed that a few
weeks They started that, like I don't

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know, probably a month or two
ago, because every episode that I've watched,

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if you just hit play, then
it starts with a promo. But

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if you immediately back out and restart
it and then it just goes into the

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show. Gotcha? All right?
Stove in the chat room says the same.

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So that's what what the what the
fuck is the point of paying for

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no commercials if they're frecing commercial commercials
right there, they're like drawing a line

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because it's like self promotion. It's
not like a commercial or something. Yeah,

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but it pisses me off. There's
no point in having that fucking trailer

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for It's always the fucking drag show
one too, which I'm not interested in.

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It's always led me. It's always
let me skipping. What what uh?

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What like device do you use?
TV? You've got like a paramout

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plus and you're smart TV it's like
Samsung TV or something. Tim Are you

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watching it on your TV? Uh? Yeah, I have, I have

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a like Apple TV. Yeah,
yeah, I've got it. I usually

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don't play it on my Apple TV. I usually end up playing it on

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my phone because half most of the
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work. What I know? Right, you and Zach y Oh, that's

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neither here nor there. But I
think that's bullshit that streamers are doing that.

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I'm fighting against it, and please
all you joined me write angry letters

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to Paramount Plus. Soon enough,
we're gonna all end up back with cable

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again, because that's basically what streaming
has become. Yes, it's ridiculous,

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basically paying the same amount, if
not more than we were with cable.

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Yeah, it's awful. It's all
terrible. Yep, all right into the

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oh yeah still says it's parallel apparently
merging with Peacock. Maybe we should get

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to that in the after show.
Wolfye, you might have some insights as

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to everything that's going on. Sony
offered a buy out for Viacom or I

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don't know, some shit's happening.
Yeah, I'd love to hear about that.

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But yeah, let's table that,
save that for later. The first

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thing that we actually get in this
episode are Steve and Nicole. They are

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back from elimination and just sort of
looking at their picks and flexing amount and

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shit, I don't know I could
have done without the scene. I hate

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these things. What do you think? Plus, so you weren't on last

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week's episode, what'd you think of
last week's with Leroy? It was better

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than I expected Leroy to do with
that, to be honest with you,

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Yeah, but I hate all of
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They're not good at it. It's
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Yep, I agree. I think
I think we liked I think I liked

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LeRoy's just because I like Leroy.
Yeah, he's Yeah, he seems better

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this season too. He seems more
leroy esque than the last couple times we've

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seen him. All Right, So
they are back in the house. Now,

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Nicole and Veronica are talking. They
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how Veronica got out of elimination and
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the sand in the matter of a
few seconds. And now Veronica is saying,

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like, hey, because of this
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see I now she could be an
ally for me, like for the rest

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of the season. She thinks that
this is like the start of a beautiful

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thing. Will fee your shaking your
head. No, no, nobody's relying

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on Veronica for anything. Nicole will
be like yeah, like, no problem.

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I mean it's the same thing that
Again, Tim, you weren't here

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last week. But one of the
big things with last week was everybody was

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talking about how Jazz has their back
and how they have hers, and like

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she's made promises, Like what the
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She is not good at this game, has never been good at this game.

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She's there as a fluff player just
to round out the numbers and to

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take to the end if they need
a fluff player at the end, to

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be that sacrificial lamb. Honestly,
Veronica is the same thing, Like she

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may have been good at this game
back in the day, but she doesn't

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quite have that same kind of power
that she used to. Yeah, no,

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she's not gonna I don't think she's
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No, but I think Nicole needs
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Veronica now that Rachel's gone. Yeah, some think they're just looking for numbers.

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They're just looking for somebody that won't
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in the middle. No, oh, I agree with that. It's just

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it's still just one of those I
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to be able to do for them, other than potentially have a number for

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her for them. I think that's
kind of it. Yeah, but that's

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again, that only matters if Veronica
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she doesn't end up in the middle, then it does not matter at all.

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And she seems to either be at
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makes it to the top with things
like trivia. Yeah, when people like

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Veronica too, I wonder if she
just gets more money the longer she stays,

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so she just wants to stay,
because really she should be trying to

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get the star. She should have
been happy to go into that elimination.

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Maybe not against the hole, but
if she was planning to win, she

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would have wanted to be down there, I would think. But anyway,

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we have these quick shots of you
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of Cam's breast milk kind of a
weird overlay there, Ken, I don't

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know why they're focusing so much on
her breast milk and her pumping, Like

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it's just weird. Yeah, it
seems like they said it in one or

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two episodes, like that's enough.
We don't we don't need to keep going

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back to that. We see Ace
and Brad talking. I like seeing the

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old school guys talk, but this
conversation was weird to me. Ace talking

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up to Brad about like I'm just
so proud of you. I knew you

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had it and need to be a
champion, like all this stuff. Do

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you think this is weird? Anybody? I think Ace is just weird in

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general? I think so too.
Yeah, I think he's too well.

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I wouldn't. I just think he's
too normal for the show. I agree.

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I feel like he's too much of
a normal guy, too normal,

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and I think, uh, I'm
curious if he's had uh he's been through

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therapy. I've been a lot of
these guys out because I'm feeling like I'm

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picking up a lot of like positive
reinforcement coming from him. Yes, I'm

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so proud of you, You've did
so well, Like Yeah, it's very

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much. When you go through therapy, you start noticing people like that person's

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been through therapy. I can tell. Uh. Lauras says Ace is actually

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a threat to win it because he's
sort of playing under the radar. He's

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he's likable, people seem to like
him. They're not really viewing him as

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much of a threat. What do
you guys think is a Is Ace threat

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a threat? Sort of a I
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rounded player, but I mean,
if this week is any indication and last

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week, he doesn't seem to really
have the tenacity to want to go after

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getting a star. So no,
I don't think Ace gives a shit.

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I think he's happy to show up, hang out with all these people he

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used to do stuff with. I
mean, at the end of the day,

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when the final comes, if he
ends up winning it, I'm sure

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he'd be happy. But he's not
interested in I don't think making enemies.

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And I mean the last season that
he was on, what was it All

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Stars Won? Was I think the
last one he was on. He in

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one of his interviews, said that
if he won, he wasn't going to

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keep the money he was going to
give it all the way to charity.

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So like, I don't know how
realistic that actually is. But if that's

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really his MO, then he really
doesn't give a shit. People would surprise

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you, but he never He never
gave a ship. That was always sort

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of ass thing. He never made
it very far in the game, but

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he was always buddies with people and
he left like in a good mood typically.

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So I don't know, I would
like to see a's actually give it

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an effort and try. I don't
think we're going to see it. But

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yeah, I just don't think that's
his personality. No, it's not.

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There was a there was a guy
a couple of seasons ago on Survivor that

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was gonna He said he was going
to give if he won the million dollars,

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He's going to give it all to
like a veteran's charity, Gabler Gabler,

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and everybody was like, sure and
he wasn't like well off or anything

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like in his personal life. Sure
Enough, he ended up winning. He

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donated the entire thing to a veterans
charity. Yeah, that's impressive, the

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Ali Gabler. Yeah, one vote
away from a perfect game, that guy

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one vote Pasidy Rob I know.
All right, So Brad is still talking

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to Ace, but he's talking about
how this season has been a notoriously bad

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one for him. He's usually pretty
good and all these games, this game

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or this this season just his worst
performance probably ever. Yeah, he's especially

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after after his last showing on the
on the Challenge, like he he was

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doing really well the last time he
was on and he's just not this time.

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They put a couple of good montages
of him kicking ass throughout all sorts

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of Challenge seasons, including that super
weird karate kick one that he did remember

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that last all started stupid, and
then a montage of all his failures this

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season, which is just that poor
guy. I just feel so bad for

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him. So but anyway, it's
clear that Brad is just throwing himself a

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pity party. People are They are
trying to cheer him up. Even Carl

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Maria just says, like, dude, you're fucking Brad, like, yeah,

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you are one of the people that
people know from the Challenge. Yeah,

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yep, he's got to be in
the top ten list of Challengers.

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Like, I know, he's not
on the Mount Rushmore for most people,

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but he's not. I think he's
probably top ten. Yeah he's good.

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I don't know. Yeah, he's
only one once, but I feel like

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he just he's made an impression enough
and he's been around enough. Yeah,

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he's beat Leal here, he beat
Landen and CT in elimination. Yeah,

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I don't know. I still feel
like THET one was someone on a technicalgy

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doesn't matter. He wins on technicologies
because he figures it out. He like

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sees these games. He didn't figure
that one out. Yeah, lost that

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one because CT fucked up. That
had nothing to do with Brad, but

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he shook it to make CT fuck
up because Beth had already fucked up in

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a similar way, and Brad saw
Beth go home, and so Brad.

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I think that's giving Brad a lot
of credit. I think Brad was just

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getting endless credit. And CT won
like four, four finals, five,

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oh yeah since then? So I
mean, is he that good? Well,

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listen, I said he's not Mount
Rushmore. CT is obviously Rushmore.

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So yes, he's better. He's
not as good as CT. I think

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there's some people. He's clearly not
as good as you know CT bananas like,

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but top ten. I think he's
top ten. I really do I

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really do. Seems kind of high. Maybe top fifteen because there have been

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a lot of players. Yeah,
maybe fifteen. Still he's up there.

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He's up there, is what I'm
saying. He's like, he's not a

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slouch. He's he's done well in
these games. It's just not his not

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his season. And with that we're
under the challenge. All right, Well,

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good news and bad news, guys. Good news, it's trivia time.

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Tavia love trivia. I guess it's
trivia. Well tell me tell me

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the bad news. What's bad about
this game? I didn't realize like its

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spelling, be yep, that's problem. I was not super thrilled on that.

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these questions. It was all sort
of like hyper specific shit that you would

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never ever know from previous in the
season. Or spelling. They should be

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capitals of states or some like easy
shit so that we can laugh at how

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stupid they are. Yes, without
that, this is the trivia is no

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fun if I can't laugh at how
dumb they are. Yeah, I don't

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mind spelling if it's they all do
it once, but yeh, they all

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did it multiple times. I don't
need three rounds of spelling. Yeah,

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and the spelling should be simple words
again, so they look stupid when they

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can't do it if you if you're
making them spell maneuver, like, I

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get it. I couldn't do that
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also spell mission like yeah, yeah, it should all be missions, right,

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it should all be sort of the
easiest questions ever. But yeah,

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anyway, now, because they're hanging
over water, do you guys think ex

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actually a hard word? I don't
think I could spell maneuver without writing it

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down. Yeah, I agree with
that, and I think I don't think

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that it matters if you were over
water or what I think if you are,

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if you are being like, it's
one thing to do with spelling be

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in front of a bunch of people. It's an entirely different thing to do

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a spelling bee in the air off
the side of a building over water,

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like having that added pressure. Definitely
would like, that's that's why it's so

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fucking funny, Like that's why you
know, what do they uh, what

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do they speak in or what language
they speak in Austria, Australian, Dutch,

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Dutch? I know, but that
was the that was the Johnny Bananas

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fucking it up and saying Australian Yeah, it's just it. I think the

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added pressure of being in a crazy
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and that's why it's so fucking funny. Yeah. But do we think that

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they powered through a bunch of questions. No, and they moved on to

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spelling just to give them something to
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know with only three wrongs. Yeah, I don't feel like those people are

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smart enough to power through that many
questions when they only have three strikes.

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Yeah. I feel like the funniest
one was Nicole not knowing Tolkien, Oh

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my God, which again, like
that was some funny because it was like

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it was something, it was sort
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steps lead up to the Yeah that
was that was so funny. But like,

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it's one thing to not know Tolkien. It's an entirely different thing to

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think that it's JK. Rowling.
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So they're pairing up TJ's given Brad
shit. Nobody's kept pairing up with

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poor Brad. Not only does he
have in a bad season, but he's

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notoriously bad it trivia. So it's
just sort of as like, Brad,

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you're just fucked. Steve's in the
chat room all by himself tonight, and

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he said, Brad not having an
answer as a teacher. Yeah, but

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I mean we also we also saw
him as a teacher a few years ago,

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fuck up royally with just basic math. So that's Brad's big thing.

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Like, I think Brad is really
good at figuring out how to win games,

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but he's average at best at puzzles
and math. Are you sure as

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fuck was not good at figuring out
how to win games this season? I

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know it. I know he's at
a bad season. Think he was history,

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really, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know why I know

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that. I don't I don't even
know if that's true, but I think

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it was history. Also, this
trivia is a little different because there's no

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sabotaging or giving points to anybody else. If you get it right or whatever,

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it's really just three wrongs and you're
out. Do you like this or

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do you wish it was more like
revealing of alliances and allegiances and all that

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stuff. I don't like I like
this more than the giving it to other

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people, because I feel like the
giving it to other people we go a

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lot faster and people get out a
lot quicker because like there's some some seasons

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where they do they going against other
people and the first three teams all get

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it right, and they all three
put their their thing on the on the

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last team and that team is out
before they even get to answer. So

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I like this where you're playing against
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Yep, I do too. Another
interesting part I thought Avery. They

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asked her what how many colors were
on the South African flag, and she

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just like named all the colors and
ship and counted them. Crazy. How

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does she know how to do this
because the South African flag is not that

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hard. Would you've gotten this?
Yeah, there's no chance if you if

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you gave me three flags and said
pick the South African one, I don't

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think I could even do that.
Now. My guess is I know that

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they are in South Africa, so
maybe they have a flag at the house

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and when she's bored, she just
turned stairs at it. That could be.

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Yeah. There's a few years ago
where they they did trivia. They

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were in Turkey and it was what
colors are on the Turkey on Turkey's flag,

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and they were in a harbor with
a bunch of other boats that all

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had the flag of Turkey on them. Okay, yeah, I also the

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I The one question that I really
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South Africa? Yeah? It's something
I never fucking heard of. Did you

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guys know? Oh you didn't know
that? The animal animal a spring buck.

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It's an antelope. It's a type
of antelope. It's also the name

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of their rugby team, They're the
spring Bucks. I would have said it

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looked like a gazelle to me,
and I think I would have said gazelle.

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Yeah, how did you know that
too? I don't know. But

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the carline I wanted to ask you, do you know are you a person

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that knows a lot of flags?
Like, could you like name a bunch

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of countries flags? No? Probably
not. I mean, like, it's

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so, I I do have a
group of my group of friends here we

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do bar trivia every Wednesday. You
send us questions all the time. I'm

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saying this to everybody else I know, because we do bar trivia every week.

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Yeah, I do send all of
the wrestling questions, which there are

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a lot of and any of the
movie questions that we can't get, which

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there are. Yeah, there are
a surprising number of wrestling questions. But

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when we do image rounds that have
things like we did one a few weeks

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ago because Minnesota has just changed their
flag, we went from a really racist

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one to a really boring one.
And the week that that was officially announced,

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the image round that week was a
bunch of state flags and we had

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to guest states for those flags.
And there are some states that you're looking

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at like where the fuck is that? Like what what flag is this for?

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So there, I mean, I
think it's I think you'd be surprised

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him if you we're doing trivia that
had a bunch of flags, Like if

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you had the flags in front of
you, you might be able to guess

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it. Yeah, I think I
could do big ones, but I and

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I know some of them like Mexico
and Ireland. I think that's the same

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flag, but just like reverse colors. Right, Yeah, there are a

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lot of flags where it's like France
and like Synegal or something that there are

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a bunch of flags where it's basically
it's the same flag, just in reverse.

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Colors or upside down or I would
struggle hard with all that shit.

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Yeah, but I do know Brazil's
flag because that was the logo of the

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duel. So how about that the
challenge teaching me shit about flags? All

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right? So averynew the South African
flag. Ace though did not know what

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color the couch was. We get
another Ace ensemble of Ace sleeping on a

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couch? Did was Car the one
who said green and gray? Car knew

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it, but trusted Ace. I
don't know how do we feel about a

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sleeping like. It was a funny
montage, but we gave shit for Dario,

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and I do kind of think if
you're showing up like you should be

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entertaining on this show. This is
the second episode where we have seen a

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sleeping like. The first episode was
two or three episodes ago when Carr called

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out Aces in Places and Steve doing
stuff right the wild Stephen the wild and

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Aces in Places and Ace was sleeping
and Steve is doing weird things. That

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sounds about right for both of them. Yeah. Uh and then Leroy again,

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Leroy has just been like his little
confessional one liners I think are just

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the best this season. Uh,
TV is getting ready to ask him the

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last question, and Leroy says,
asked me something I know, like how

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to spell my first name or how
to smell my last name. No,

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it wasn't, or how to spell
my last name is or even how to

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spell my last name. Like spelling
his last name was going to be hard.

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Either way. I fucking love this
guy. He's so funny. Uh.

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Well, at the end of the
day, the losers, uh,

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the only ones that matter are the
men because it's a men's day. So

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the losers are Adam, Brad,
Steve, and Ryan. Middle group who

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is gonna be deciding what to do
and who to throw in is Tina,

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Ace, Kara, Jay, Nicole
and Derek. That leaves the winners being

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Leroy and Veronica. Good job,
Leroy. Yeah, Leroy answered that last

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question, got it right. It
kind of seemed like Leroy got it with

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no help, right because it because
Veronica was also talking about like, maybe

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I don't want to win this one. Yeah, it kind of I kind

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of felt like she might have been
saying, I don't know to potentially throw

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it. I think so too,
because later when Lerou was giving her credit,

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she looked a little uncomfortable. Yeah, because I really do think I

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wonder if she was helping earlier to
kind of be helping and then she didn't

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want to win, and so Leroy
did pull it out. I wonder for

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something like that. Yep, I
felt that same way. You guys know,

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do you know what the name of
the tower is? No, no

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Khalifa? What is it? The
Burge Khalifa. I don't even remember the

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question I've heard of that where is
the tallest building in the world. It's

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Dubai. Yeah, I knew it
was a Dubai. I didn't know what

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it was called. It used to
be Chicago, remember in grade school.

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Yeah, in grade school it was
Chicago, the Serious Tower at the time.

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That's Willis Tower. It's the Serious
Tower. In my heart, I

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forgot that it had changed its name. Yeah, right by the Trump Tower

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Chicago now, which is really nice. All right. Uh So with that,

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we're on to dinner. Uh,
pretty casual dinner here in the Challenge

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House, just some pizza and some
wine. They're not going out in clubbing

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when the Yeah, yeah, when
they first started talking about the dinner,

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I was like, why the fuck
are we watching this? I don't care

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that they're doing a big group dinner, Like what does this matter at all?

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This had to be because they didn't
go out right. This was like

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a bar night esque thing. They
wanted some conversation and some drama at the

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table. I have a feeling they
probably still went out just focused on this

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because of Ace's story. Yeah,
well, we're here, We're in the

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we're in the story. You want
to expand on that, Carl and what's

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up with Ace here? No,
because I fast forward. I fast forward

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the whole thing because like secondhand of
embarrassment, and I also just really didn't

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care. Yeah, this was horrible, U Zach, you want to you

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want to describe what Ace did here? I don't even marry the full story,

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but it's basically about how Adam and
Brad were these knights that were gonna

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go to battle and the Ace would
willingly bestow his star upon whichever victor returned

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from the war field and oh gotcha. It was okay. But and maybe

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me fastwarding through it was a mistake
because I didn't understand why Brad was so

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upset by the end of it.
He felt like it was putting a target

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on who people should vote for the
next day. Yeah, he made a

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big show in front of the whole
house, and it ended with you know,

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our mighty warriors Brad and Adam battling
it out in the arena tomorrow,

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and Brad was like, wait a
minute, I don't want to be in

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the area, you know. So
that's what's so okay. Then I missed

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that part, but which I kind
of listen to a little bit of it

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when I was anyway, it doesn't
matter. But at one point in time

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I did hear Brad say, like, towards the end of this whole thing,

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like I don't want to go in. It's still early, Rad,

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We're more than halfway through this game. What kind of early do you think

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this is? Yeah? I don't
He's not thinking like regularly. No,

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Yeah, I'm amazing straight up not
in this game. I'm guess I probably

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wants to go down when there's like
two or less challenges, like one or

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two challenges left. We are on
episode seven. There are only ten episodes

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of this of the show. Yeah, but two of them are going to

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be the final the final, Yeah, so there are only ten There are

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only ten challenges, like, and
the problem is everybody's gonna want to go

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into that last one. Yeah.
So Rad's a moron for thinking that he

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should wait, yeah, this seems
yeah, this seems close enough. That's

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like you should you should use this
chance to get your star and then protect

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I hope you can protect it during
the one or two eliminations and you're there.

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But yeah, season, he's not
thinking right. But maybe his thought

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was like, Okay, if I
get to the end, everyone's gonna want

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to go win. But who's the
house gonna want to tray get rid of

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me? Or like Derek and Ryan, like I'm the bigger threat, they're

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gonna want to throw me and drag
it me out. I shot. Then

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Sally go to bed. Yeah,
I oh, Tim's kid just showed up.

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Sorry guys, that's what Wolf he
is yelling. Uh yeah, I

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still I mean, I can understand
that. But at the same time,

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it just it felt like a really
fucking boneheaded move. Like you, it

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was very dumb. It just I
yeah, I didn't understand it all.

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Yeah, it just made no sense, made no sense at all. I

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need to step away for a few
minutes. I'm gonna afford my notes to

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the group chat. I'll be okay. I cast understanding the sense of maybe

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part of it was not one to
go in. A part of it has

407
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,519
also been like he didn't want to
go against Adam because I don't think Adam's

408
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:11,400
that big of a slouch. And
to me, he's like, yeah,

409
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,599
I want to wait till I have
an easier competition. Yeah. I mean

410
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:22,160
I can understand that, like you're
pitting two pretty pretty good players against each

411
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,920
other, or at least what we've
seen so far, pretty good players.

412
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,759
But it just I don't know it. It all boils down to Brad's head

413
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:37,440
was just straight up not in this
game. No stove in the chat room

414
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,599
said, apparently he went through a
really bad breakup the week he was flying

415
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:45,119
out, which led to him not
being focused in the game. Okay,

416
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:51,759
sure, I guess that makes sense. All right, so I guess we're

417
00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:56,039
technically we're on de nominations. Yeah, Avery and Jay talk with Brad about

418
00:28:56,039 --> 00:29:03,799
this whole thing. Avery Trice calm
Brad down. A Ace thinks Brad wanted

419
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:08,319
to go in. Oh, Ace, he says, Ace thinks Brad wanted

420
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:11,440
to go in, knows he kind
of messed up. So I don't Yeah,

421
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,519
I thought he he thought Brad wanted
to go in, which is why

422
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:21,400
he picked him and Adam for the
story, and Brad apparently, like we've

423
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,759
mentioned, was like, I don't
want to go in Why did he keep

424
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,279
saying my name? If he felt
like I put it so, then Ace

425
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:29,319
felt bag because he wasn't trying to
be a dick. Yeah, he was

426
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,160
just having funny likes Brad. He
mentioned it multiple times, yep. So

427
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,799
he's like, I feel really bad
about it. But well, that's like,

428
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,000
I mean, the little bit of
his story that I did watch,

429
00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:41,880
like, it was obvious that Ace
was trying to be funny and goofy,

430
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:48,119
like he's telling a story about knights, Like he's making up a story about

431
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:51,079
the child. It's meant to be
funny, it's not meant to like he's

432
00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:53,960
also he's just a goofy dude,
Like, yeah, yeah, Brad was.

433
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,920
It's really clear that Brad's head was
just not in this game. And

434
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,480
because I feel like in other seasons
he would not have taken it this hard.

435
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:07,319
Yeah, he would have found it
funny. Like I don't know,

436
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,480
it just it was odd to me. But We've got a scene of Adam

437
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:17,440
and Ryan and Derek all sitting out
on the chairs outside and they're talking about

438
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:21,319
the story last night, and you
know what's gonna happen for nominations, And

439
00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:23,920
this is when Adam says, yeah, I want to get my starbuck fucking

440
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,039
throw me in. I don't care
who I go against, throw me in

441
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:32,640
fully on board. Yeah, which
I mean. I know that Tim is

442
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,400
not a huge fan of Adam,
but I fully appreciated this, like he

443
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,599
realizes that we're towards the end of
the game. This is the first season.

444
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:44,240
I may have seen him once before
a long time ago and just don't

445
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:48,920
remember, but this is my first
season with Adam. I've had zero problem

446
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,039
with him. Yeah. Same.
I feel like he's been he's been cool,

447
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:55,599
he's been nice, he's been he
wants to play the game. He

448
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,519
said he's ready. He's like,
I'll go in. Yeah. Well,

449
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,200
I don't care. I've always like
him. I think he was a little

450
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,559
bit of a you know, a
dick back in the day, but he's

451
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:07,279
always really good at the game.
I thought, like, so, I

452
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,960
like people that are good at the
game. I have absolutely no memory of

453
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:18,920
him back in the day. I
still I maintained that there are times when

454
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,519
he says things that Tim we're talking
about Adam. There are times when we

455
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:29,240
when he says things that I just
I feel sad, like it feels like

456
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:33,039
he's been like he went through something
major, like a major life change and

457
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,839
pulled himself out of a really deep
dark place that it just, I don't

458
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,440
know, it makes me feel sad. He does seem to allude to something,

459
00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:47,960
yeah screen that nobody really knows what
he's talking about. And for a

460
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,000
little while I thought that it was
like he maybe he was dealing with drugs

461
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,680
and alcohol, because that seems to
be a very common thing with not very

462
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,920
common but a more common thing with
reality star. But I think he's drinking

463
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,680
in this house, so maybe not. I don't know. It just I

464
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:07,079
just think a lot of these people, by the time they're this age,

465
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,000
right, like in their forties,
yeah, most of them have probably gone

466
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,960
through some shit because they're chaotic people
just regardless. Yeah, and most people

467
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,559
have been given through shit by their
forties anyway. Yeah, but I agree

468
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:22,079
with you, Carl, And he
sounds weird when he talks about his past,

469
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:27,400
and he sounds like there's something like
like he's alluding to something bad happening,

470
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,359
but he doesn't ever actually say it. Whereas Ryan, we have the

471
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:38,160
whole conversation about Ryan and his sobriety
and how good for Ryan. Yeah,

472
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,960
he's the nine percent that has that
didn't relapse in the first nine or first

473
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:46,720
ninety days, which fucking great for
him. I hope he continues. Yeah.

474
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:50,039
What's weird though, you know,
we've seen Ryan on the show a

475
00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,039
lot. I don't remember drinking for
him ever, being like, I don't

476
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:55,240
think it was drinking. Oh,
he had different types of drugs he liked.

477
00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:59,680
Yeah, No, I think it
was something else. Okay, Yeah,

478
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,200
because we've seen like the sloppy like
we've seen Tanya and it's like,

479
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,240
all right, Tanya has got a
problem. I don't problem. Yeah.

480
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:08,759
I don't remember ever seeing Ryan and
thinking he had a problem. But yeah,

481
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,799
maybe it was different drugs than what
we saw him doing. Yeah,

482
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,359
the way that he the way that
he was phrasing things, it sounded like

483
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:21,400
hard drugs, not not alcohol.
Yeah, And maybe I'm wrong, but

484
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,559
normally when people go sober, they
go sober for everything, regardless of whether

485
00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:31,559
their issue was drugs or alcohol.
Yeah. I don't know where we are

486
00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:38,039
in the notes nominations. Yeah right, God damn it. And you can

487
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:46,000
continue from there, all right,
pretty obvious nomination session. I think we

488
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:51,519
could always we could all sort of
guess how this plays out. It really

489
00:33:51,559 --> 00:33:54,559
just becomes like everybody says yes to
Adam obviously, so it becomes a choice

490
00:33:54,559 --> 00:34:00,960
between Brad and Ryan. Uh,
Derek is in there sort of advocating for

491
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:05,640
Ryan. I don't know. It
just sort of it comes down to Ace.

492
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,960
Ace picks Brad. No, it
first, it comes down to everybody

493
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,280
whos said they're not voting for Steve, and everybody said that they will vote

494
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,480
for Adam. Yeah, so we're
just trying to pick that second player,

495
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,760
and we've got two votes for Ryan, We've got two votes for Brad.

496
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,960
And then it comes down to Tina. And Tina sits there and goes,

497
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:29,280
oh, well, uh, I
guess I'll choose the safe one and go

498
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,000
with Steve. Yeah. She makes
me Chase decide. Yeah. Well,

499
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:37,719
And the thing that pissed me off
about this is that one I thought that

500
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,280
Tina was friends with Ryan, like
you would think that you, I mean,

501
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,239
you would think that you'd have your
friends back. She just doesn't want

502
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,079
blood on her hands because she also
likes Brad, I think, Yeah,

503
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,800
so she just doesn't want to be
in the decision, so she throws out

504
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,000
somebody that's not in the decision.
But this is where I think Ace fucked

505
00:34:55,079 --> 00:35:00,360
up in that Ace should have thrown
Steve too and tied it up up and

506
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,679
made them redo it three way time. Yeah. But the fact that he

507
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,400
didn't do that makes me think Ace
wanted Brad in there. Yeah. And

508
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:13,599
it could be because of the snacks
that Ryan apparently gave him as he can,

509
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:17,400
or it could be that he's scared
of Brad to final I don't know,

510
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,199
what do you guys think. I
will call him a little columb I

511
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:25,280
don't know. I feel like Ace
is just like I don't know, just

512
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,159
no. Els could have just been
that he wanted to see two powerhouses go

513
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,800
at it. Yeah. I just
think like if I'm Ace and I think

514
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,800
Brad wants to go in, and
I advocate for Brad, but then Brad

515
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,679
tells me like, oh no,
dude, I don't want to go in,

516
00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:42,400
I think I'd be like, oh, okay, then I won't vote

517
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,119
for you. Yeah, I think
I still voted. Makes me think that

518
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:49,159
he wanted Brad. That was his
plan. It wasn't that he thought Brad

519
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,599
wanted it, It's that he wanted
it. Well. Also think there's a

520
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:54,400
chance at once, he kind of
pissed off Brad. He's like, all

521
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:58,559
right, Like, now I have
my choice between someone that I have no

522
00:35:58,679 --> 00:36:01,800
issues with and somebody just recently pissed
off. Why would I want to keep

523
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,280
the person that's pissed at me in
the house. Yeah, someone I recently

524
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,679
pissed off over something that was a
joke. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

525
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,119
But then he's gonna so then he's
gonna throw Brad in, and then

526
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:16,440
what if Brad comes back, it's
even worse. I don't know. I

527
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,719
just think Ace is so low conflict. I think I would have just expected

528
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,159
As to be like, oh,
Brad, I didn't know, Okay,

529
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:24,760
I'll vote for a Ryan then and
then it's fine. Yeah, I don't

530
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:30,599
know's I'm not disagreeing with you.
I think that ultimately, yes, he

531
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,679
wanted Brad in there, but at
the same time, like, I don't

532
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:37,119
know, I guess I could talk
myself out of any of the scenarios.

533
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:42,280
Hum In his confessional, he says
that he saved Ryan because Ryan sent him

534
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,239
down some snacks. And I saw
some speculation on this, and the hullabaloo

535
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,079
online is that this happened during All
Stars one when they were quarantined in the

536
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:59,480
hotel that Ryan would like lower snacks
on the balcony to Ace's hotel room.

537
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:04,480
That's the room or online. So
there you go. But so that's as

538
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:09,320
Aces prioritizing that over this twenty year
friendship he has with Brad. Ryan's been

539
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,320
around for that long too. Yeah, and I guess I can't remember if

540
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,039
As and Ryan played together back in
the day. I don't remember if they

541
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:19,119
played together either. I mean,
we got the little clip of Adam and

542
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,559
Ryan talking about how when they played
back in the day they were things.

543
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:30,840
They weren't playing necessarily on the same
side. But oh yeah, my dog

544
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,599
just threw a sock across the room. So if you hear craziness in the

545
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:43,760
background, it's because she's playing with
a sock y. All right. Well,

546
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:51,840
with that, we're onto the elimination. Yes, we've seen this one

547
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,519
before, although I can't recall when
this was the one that I think Janelle

548
00:37:55,559 --> 00:38:01,760
was supposed to go into it,
like the very first elimination of the entire

549
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,800
season. But I don't remember seeing
the thing where they had to run up.

550
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,039
I feel like the one that we
saw with Janelle they were going to

551
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:14,559
be pushing with the hands. But
yeah, I really don't recall. I

552
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:15,920
just remember it looked earlier and it's
like I can't place that, and then

553
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:19,400
yeah, it's because we never actually
saw it get played, which is why

554
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,159
everybody was so excited, because we
never saw it get played. Yeah,

555
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,559
it was kind of a cool game. It's called cheat codes. There's a

556
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:30,599
big joysick. You punch the buttons
with your feet and you got to memorize

557
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:35,000
them in the right order. This
would be a hard one, I would

558
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,280
I could do this all night,
I would never get it done. I

559
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,199
have the world's worst memory. This
would be awful for me. Would you

560
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:45,320
guys do good on these? Nope, not even close. We'll fold suck.

561
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,639
Yeah. I don't think I was
done very well. I probably not.

562
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,679
I think Adam had an amazing strategy, and if I thought to do

563
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,000
it his way, I think I
could do well at it. But I

564
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,679
think I would have tried to do
something more like Brad and done too much

565
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:05,280
at once. Yeah. I was
watching them jump down off that thing onto

566
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,480
the ground and going oh every time. I was like, oh, my

567
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:10,960
knees would be fucking shot. After
the first time I did notice they they

568
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,079
were more careful than like what you
see the young dudes, do you know

569
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:20,119
they seemed a little more cautious.
Yeah. I did like the game though.

570
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:23,159
I My favorite part about the entire
thing though, was after the TJ

571
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,800
explains the game, he turns to
Leroy, agaus, Leroy, do you

572
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:34,079
want to come down? And he
has Hell, no, Leroy is just

573
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,400
a pleasure this season, Like,
we hadn't seen this version of Leroy and

574
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,920
so in a long time, haven't
we? That Just everything he says is

575
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:45,000
hilarious. He's always been overshadowed by
bananas. Yeah. Well, I think

576
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:51,000
he's also more relaxed because this isn't
like his life now. Yeah, and

577
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:53,599
he's got Cam there. I think
Cam helps him kind of stay grounded.

578
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:58,000
Yep, so I did. I
was thinking about this when I was watching

579
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:00,599
this, and I hadn't really thought
about it before. What do you guys

580
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:05,360
think about the fact that TJ tells
them what the game is first and then

581
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:07,920
gives the winners the option to pick
That's how it should go. I like

582
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,800
that. That's so that's how it
should go. Winner should get the advantage.

583
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,719
That's how That's how it works.
It's the winner's abandoned. Yeah,

584
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,519
I was I was, I was
on the fence. I I now that

585
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:22,159
you have said that, I agree
because I kind of I kind of liked

586
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:28,360
it in seasons past where they could
just see the arena and like not actually

587
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,960
know what the game was and have
to pick completely on chance, so there

588
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:37,320
was the possibility that they would be
completely fucked. But now that you've said

589
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,360
that, I agree. Yeah,
winners should get the advantage, like that's

590
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:45,320
the whole point of winning. Yeah. And I I also think on Survivor

591
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:50,039
you should be able to play the
idol after the votes. They've only done

592
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:52,519
that one season as far as I
know. Did they play the idol before

593
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,320
the votes? They did it after
the votes, but before the votes are

594
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,559
revealed. Yeah. When they first
brought idols in the the first like two

595
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:05,880
or three seasons, you played after
the votes were read. Yeah. And

596
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,159
then once they switched, they had
a super idol one season that you could

597
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:13,239
play after votes are read. Yeah, but it's not normally you can't.

598
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,719
It's normally after the voting, but
before the votes are read. Yeah,

599
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,280
but it makes people waste idols.
But I do think there should be an

600
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,320
idol, maybe a special one one
every season where you can do it after

601
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,119
anyway, I was gonna say,
yes, they know. The issue why

602
00:41:25,159 --> 00:41:30,079
they changed it was if you're married. The old seasons like when people would

603
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:30,960
find that idle, they're just like, hey, I have the idol,

604
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,559
and then no one would vote for
the rest of the season and just I'm

605
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,280
ack again, i'mac by to the
final because people would be too afraid.

606
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:44,920
Yep, yeah, yep, youle. Someone just said that you'll Oh God,

607
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,159
I love you all all right,
so they play Zach you already went

608
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:54,000
over the strategies. Brad tried to
memorize longer strings of codes, but he

609
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:58,800
couldn't do it, so he had
to keep restarting. Adam did much smaller

610
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,480
chunks, so it took a lot
more trips, but I didn't have to

611
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:06,320
reset, and Adam wins it and
goodbye Brad. See I thought at first,

612
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,679
when Brad kept hitting the start button, I was sitting there, like,

613
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,679
does he not? I was thinking
that he may not have realized that

614
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,920
he didn't have to hit the start
button every time he was punching in more

615
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:20,800
things. I thought like, maybe
he thought that he needed to every time

616
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,360
he went back there. I thought
that's why he kept restarting, And then

617
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,400
when he actually said, oh no, I was restarting because I was fucking

618
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:34,840
things up. Oh okay, so
that was intentional, but yeah, yeah,

619
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,320
but with how he had been playing
the game like, I wasn't entirely

620
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:43,639
sure that it was in intentional until
he said, so yeah, it was

621
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,320
very sad. I'm gonna really miss
Brad, not only for my love affair

622
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,280
with Brad, but for my draft. It's all very sad. Brad goes

623
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,760
home, Adam takes Ace's star,
which is a surprise to nobody, including

624
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:01,440
Ace, although Derek has a problem
them that Eric seems or that Ace seems

625
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,079
to not care so much, but
that he's getting a star taken. I

626
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:08,480
don't know, do you guys care
about this? Should have? Should a

627
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,400
Ace have been more upset about taking
a star? I think? I mean,

628
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:15,519
I think I saw the writing on
the wall. He knew whoever one

629
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:19,360
was gonna take a star either way. So I think he's just trying to

630
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,400
pull on a good face and be
like, let me, let me be

631
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:25,920
a good sport about because I know
it's the outcome. I think so too.

632
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,480
And he didn't earn that star,
and he knows it, and everybody

633
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:31,440
knows it. So just take it
back. Yeah, so it was easy

634
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:34,599
enough for him to just be like, yeah, no worries. I mean,

635
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:37,360
it's kind of like when Tina was
when her star was given away.

636
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,000
Yeah, I mean, she just
made me to fight about it because she

637
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,880
was just defaulted a star because Janelle
didn't play right. And what's the alternative?

638
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,280
You throw a big hissy fit and
you stomp around and they take your

639
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,159
star. Anyway, It's like it's
a game. Just be cool, but

640
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:58,840
away. That's Jim Stephen. The
Chat wants us to bring back Survivor.

641
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,079
We did two seasons. Uh,
just listen to those and we did.

642
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,360
Although this season is great. This
is a fantastic season. Don't talk about

643
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,239
yesterday's episode. Okay, but Carlyn
hop on the hop on the train,

644
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:17,559
We'll be the best. Best episode
of the season last episode at two.

645
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,519
I was watching it before we recorded, and then Cindy called me and stop

646
00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:29,719
the Survivor season. This season,
the best episode of Survivor was last night

647
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:36,880
to stop when the whoever won the
reward challenge? Okay, I didn't see

648
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,239
who they picked you, Oh Charlie, Okay, Oh it's all Oh,

649
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:45,239
you're at the best part. Spoil
Try not spoiled names, but all right,

650
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,239
here we go. All right,
so I won't spoil anything else.

651
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,840
But oh, you're at the part
you're at like it all, it all

652
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,119
falls apart, it's great, it
all ramps up, whatever whatever word you

653
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:58,519
want to use. Yeah, everybody, we're not talking about survivor though.

654
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:01,039
Head over to Challenge pod dot com. Joined the Facebook group and also join

655
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:04,519
our patreon. What do people get
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656
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:06,920
you know, I think the best
thing that people get that we haven't talked

657
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,159
about on the show at all is
these awesome AI songs I've been making.

658
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,880
I made a certified banger this week. Ye in the chat room has has

659
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,880
approved of it. It's a It
is all about Brad's legacy on the Challenge

660
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,039
and it is definitely worth a listen. Carlyn, you could listen to it

661
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:27,360
right now if you cared. It's
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662
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,480
name for those five dollars months supporters, So thank you to Ainsley, Elena,

663
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:34,960
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664
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,920
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665
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:40,440
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666
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our Jack, Stan and Stephen.
Thanks guys. Yeah, and we have

667
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,239
years and years with the pre shows
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668
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,199
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669
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:59,159
Review Sam, No, we don't
leave us reviews on Apple podcast.

670
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:01,159
It helps. Also, he's zach
do you want to tell us about how

671
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:04,800
the draft is going? I would
let to tell you how the draft is

672
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,159
going. Let me pull it up
real quick. He's pulling. I have

673
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,039
the I have the public League,
all right, you can start them.

674
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,840
So I have fucked up royally the
last two weeks and have both weeks completely

675
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:23,159
forgotten to set my lineup. Uh
So, first place is still Steve whatever

676
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:28,920
stove. He has seven hundred and
seventy two points. Zachie Bananas is now

677
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:34,199
closing in at second with six hundred
and seventy mm, and then we've got

678
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,800
Sarah Hope to see you Never in
third place with six hundred and sixty five.

679
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:42,280
But the rest of the hosts,
let's see Big Uncle, Sweet Teas

680
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,480
and ninth. Even though I haven't
put in points for picks for the last

681
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:52,119
two weeks, I am in eleventh
and Wolfie. But you know what,

682
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:54,920
I think that's a test twenty eighth
twenty. I think that's a testament as

683
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:59,199
to how much you can change this. So even if you're not doing so

684
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,840
well in the rank, give it
a shot, try to get back in

685
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,199
there. Yeah. Yeah, So
I now have an official alarm set on

686
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,880
my phone every Tuesday night saying,
set your fucking lineup and do it right

687
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,199
now, because we're talking right now. Uh, and I need to think

688
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:16,159
about it a little bit more.
Go pick three randos and then refine it.

689
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,159
And then if you forget to refine
it, you've at least got the

690
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,039
randos. I will do it when
we're done. Just let me tell you

691
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:25,119
how to live your life. Carl. Well, congratulations, you are now

692
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:30,840
officially beating Sunday. She's in thirty
first. Did she forget to line up?

693
00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:36,960
She forgot to a lineup last week? Oh yeah she did. Oh

694
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:43,559
no, that's funny, all right. So then in the host league in

695
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:47,079
fourth place with no players left.
I'm sorry, Tim, I know it's

696
00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:55,480
from first place week one. I
know my players just like a fucking clean

697
00:47:55,559 --> 00:48:00,360
sweep. All my players just they're
gone. All you assholes have a half

698
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,519
of yours. It might are all
gone awad in third place with thirty eight

699
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:09,199
points is Wolfie? Wait, how
many points did I have, Zach?

700
00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:13,840
You have twenty three? That's it. I maxed out at twenty three.

701
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:17,760
You're maxed out twenty three. Damn
it the wolf who's at thirty eight?

702
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,119
But that's Michael Jordan's number, I
know. I think I got that on

703
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:30,760
like week two or three. And
then between Carlin and I we're separated by

704
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:35,639
only five points. Oh, you're
pulling a TJ. He's pulled a TJ

705
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,079
over there. But I've come up
in the rankings you have. But Carlin,

706
00:48:39,519 --> 00:48:44,280
for now, you're still in second
place with fifty six and I'm in

707
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:51,079
first at sixty one. I do
still think it's rigged me too, or

708
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:54,519
I just ingraded picking teams because I've
been doing this for a decade. That

709
00:48:54,599 --> 00:49:00,079
could also be rigged. But no, Carlin. Last two weeks, I

710
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:06,119
wrote, Carlon has had both winners
on her team. All right, that's

711
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:12,639
that's coming on up. I don't
want to talk about. You don't have

712
00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:16,440
to talk about anymore. You're out
of it. Public the public league is

713
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,079
my redemption. That's funny. It's
funny because I was thinking early on,

714
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:23,280
I was like, when Tony was
like, should I ask him about like

715
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,719
letting you have Jasmine instead? But
that that would have done you much better

716
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:34,079
when we were when we were talking
about the the lineups on the preseason r

717
00:49:34,119 --> 00:49:37,599
on the pre show, I half
a second was like, oh, we

718
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:42,079
should just let Tim have the extra
play a. Never mind, she's already

719
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:46,840
gone to. Yeah. I appreciate
you guys feeling so sorry for me that

720
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:52,119
you'll let me cheat to at least
keep playing. But well, sorry,

721
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:53,639
that wouldn't help you, though,
No, they wouldn't. I'll just I'm

722
00:49:53,679 --> 00:50:00,800
focused on the public league. Now, do you have any social media stuff?

723
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:06,800
Say? I really only saw one
big announcement, which is that Derek

724
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:13,599
and his wife announced the birth of
their new child yesterday. The congratulations to

725
00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:17,000
them. Man, how old is
his oldest kid? It's gonna be like

726
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,960
seventeen. Yeah, yeah, he's
getting up there. That's like a that's

727
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:29,480
like a stretch between those two kids, one in college and newborn. Crazy.

728
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,920
Just just wait till Daisy's seventeen,
you can have another kid? No,

729
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:40,360
no, absolutely not no, you
like pro'bly fifty. Yeah, you'll

730
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,440
be old old dad. It'd be
great. I'm already an old dad.

731
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,119
I don't know anything else you want
to talk about. No, no,

732
00:50:55,199 --> 00:51:00,559
all right, well I guess that's
it. After show. This week's this

733
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:07,440
week's edition of Challenge that has been
Brian been being on a sweet team Carl

734
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:17,400
in San Diego, Zachie Bananas and
as Leroy said, hell no, he's

735
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:30,800
got Charlie. Charlie, Charlie,
