WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:26.800 M. Tuesday, February the twenty second, twenty sixteen. That's the day 2 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:31.399 today. It's the Giant Bondcast. It's a podcast, Hello starring us. 3 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:35.399 Hello, Hi is twenty s wave to? Isn't really know it's the twenty 4 00:00:35.560 --> 00:00:38.159 third. Probably we should probably do that again. Hang on to that. 5 00:00:38.320 --> 00:00:42.600 Yes, it's the twenty third, twenty third? Should we start over? 6 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:47.960 No moment of decision? Man through? Okay, fine, hello, Hi, 7 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:51.280 we need to live with our mistakes. This is This is the run 8 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:55.240 in like a video a hard video game where you die or you get hit 9 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:58.320 like immediately, and then it's like if that one didn't count, that one 10 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:02.240 didn't count, or like a this run is just an exploratory run, and 11 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:06.159 then that becomes your high score. Oh wow, Yeah, unless you're playing 12 00:01:06.159 --> 00:01:07.560 a game where you can only get hit once. Who would do that? 13 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:11.319 I don't know what game. You're easy people would do that, I don't 14 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:14.920 know. Sounds like a bad video game. Oh boy, people have three 15 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:15.760 lives. I put in a quarter, I get three lives. That's how 16 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:21.439 this works. Start with what Yeah, that sounds like a rip off. 17 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.319 That sounds like they set the dip switches to rip me off. Rip someone 18 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:26.640 off five bucks, which you could match the R key and skip having to 19 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:30.359 mouse over to retry. Oh really, yeah, I just learned that too. 20 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:34.799 That I just, I just I just gave Dan an education a few 21 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:36.920 minutes ago. All Right, it's better than me at that game that we 22 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:40.359 haven't said the name of yet, Devil Daggers. Devil Daggers, that's a 23 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:45.200 devilish move. I pushed too for us to go record the quick look for 24 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:48.560 that right before this, because I needed to play a little Devil Daggers before 25 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:52.519 we need before we talked about it before we came in here. It's so 26 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:56.760 good. I suck so bad at it, but I can't decide if I 27 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:00.120 like it or not. You like it, I kind of hate it. 28 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:01.719 Do you do things you don't? I've never seen you more exciting to record 29 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:07.719 it quickly constantly. It's the theme of mine. Uh yeah, that game's 30 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:09.800 good. I think you're right. Yeah, I uh oh, we're talking 31 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:15.479 about Devil Daggers. Yeah. Oh my god, wow, it just got 32 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:20.159 very not gonna play on an audio podcast. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna 33 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:23.719 take a picture of this and post it to the Giant Bomb Instagram account. 34 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:30.599 Yeah, it's gonna go up on the gram. Oh yeah wow, so 35 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.560 h I guess which is our the it's giant bomb dot com I'll spelled out 36 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:39.159 yeah doo tcom. It's very red in here. Yeah, it's Coolna, 37 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:45.120 it's it's pretty cool. It's it's hellish. Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely, 38 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:49.639 yeah, we're developing fucking photos in here. It's very much like a 39 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:53.599 darker room and heard. My point of reference is a submarine. Okay, 40 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:55.520 okay, yeah yeah. When you go to battlestations, everything's red, gotcha, 41 00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:59.400 It's like a red alert exactly. That's why they called it red October, 42 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:00.800 right, because it was just red inside the because it reds the color 43 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:05.639 of the Soviet Yet, no, you never know with you Dan record, 44 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:09.199 you know why submarines are red inside? Why to preserve your night vision? 45 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:14.319 Because the guys, your pupils from doing the things like the cati thing. 46 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:17.639 U don't cats see in the dark because they are their eyes like super dialate, 47 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:21.000 don't dilate or something. Why would you need night vision? You just 48 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:24.280 turn the lights ones in case the lights going you not when you go upstairs 49 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:30.479 to the conning tower and look for ships. The periscope, uh, the 50 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:34.479 periscope right, because that's looking out on the real world, I guess. 51 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:37.159 Yeah. But then there's actual windows too, like a windshield. Right, 52 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:40.199 there's no windows. No, I don't know if you're kidding with me. 53 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:43.840 It's right next to the screen door. Yeah, okay, oh no, 54 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:46.639 I know that's fair. There's no there are no longer portholes on submarines. 55 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:51.599 Do they burst at certain pressures. I just watched the deep Sea episode of 56 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:53.719 Planet Earth, and I know there's some creepy stuff down there. There is 57 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:58.360 some creepy stuff, true, ye, squid and bottom feeders. You know 58 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.599 you're close to the bottom. Have you seen the vampire squid from Hell? 59 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.199 What? Planet Earth? Have you guys seen a planet of Earth? No, 60 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:06.120 it's the best thing, not really so good. I've seen them all 61 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:09.759 like three or four times. And watch some of Richard Attonborough type shit or 62 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:13.360 what it is Richard Atonborough. It's BBC perfect. Yeah, Well it's Sigourney 63 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:15.879 Weaver if it's the American Discovery Channel, right, Yes? Is it is? 64 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:17.839 It? Is it? They just redub it with Sigourney Weavers. Yeah, 65 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:20.040 but it's exactly the same. Yeah. Yes, I watched it on 66 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:24.000 when it aired with Signey Weaver and then on the Blue with Richardtonborough. I 67 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:26.120 don't know, it was great. I prefer the BBC version, did I 68 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:28.800 Did I see right before we came in here and they just announced another run 69 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:31.959 of that thing? Serious swear the planet Earth would be still around. There's 70 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:35.279 still a planet of Earth. So I have to more years to make I 71 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:38.720 have to I have to look this up now what's changed since then? They 72 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:41.759 could do one more, but guy, I had to sit and where was 73 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:46.560 it? Where's the where's the the snow leopard Siberia? Oh yeah, there's 74 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:48.240 only like forty of them, Like there's something. We would sat on the 75 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:53.439 side of a mountain like six months looking for a snow leopard. It's like 76 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.160 there I have to kill. I have to kill six of those so that 77 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:00.040 I can carry more spears. Well in ten thousand BC. Yeah more, 78 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:06.240 Yes, they just announced the planet isn't just started yesterday. This is actually 79 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:12.519 about Earth too. Yeah, Heart will be hosting this one, okay, 80 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:16.199 uh no? Yeah? David David Attenborough David Attenborough is fully on board with 81 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:20.319 this. Is he brothers with the other one because I was constantly confusing that 82 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:24.199 guy with the Drastic Park guy. But he's dead Drastic Park Guy's debt. 83 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:26.560 Yes, but they are brothers. Oh, I didn't know that. I 84 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:30.560 think it wasn't it, David No. I looked it up yesterday because I 85 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:32.279 was wondering if it was the Drastic Park Guy and it's not. It's another 86 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:35.319 like Super Owl British Now he's eighty nine. Yeah, yeah, new new 87 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:44.920 six episode series Sex. Later this year, Fantastic Fantastic randomly started watching that 88 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:46.959 the yesterday. There you go, Oh, I've been to Planet Earth. 89 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.879 I should watch that. Yeah. They talk about like good restaurants to go 90 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:53.639 to or anything like that. Yeah, guy fairies the host. Awesome. 91 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:56.199 We the American one. Okay, yeah, the American one. He goes 92 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:58.839 just like from different like shows you like, different places to eat yep, 93 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:00.879 yeah, lots of like burger challenges and stuff. Right, awesome. Yeah, 94 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:05.879 that's really cow It tastes delicious. That's a that's a really bad guy 95 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:13.079 fiery impression. I want to say, what sounds like his hair. I 96 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.240 watched that film documentary. While we're on the subject the documentaries, Brad side 97 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.480 by Side. Oh yeah, Keanu Reeves. Yes, who's a great interviewer. 98 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:20.879 He's not bad, he's good. It's not bad. You could tell 99 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:24.560 he's been on a film set or two. Yeah, I think that thing 100 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:28.959 might have been taken off on Netflix. I watched it the night he told 101 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:30.040 me about it. I want to say, the day that you watched it 102 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.399 was the last day it was on Netflix. So now people can no longer 103 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:35.759 watch it. Well, it must be available somewhere side by side is a 104 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:40.720 TV perhaps care about care about the technology of image capture. That's a fantas. 105 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:45.360 So I was talking with one Joey Famelies, video producer extraordinary of testa 106 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:49.920 dot com about this documentary and he linked to me the video of the guy 107 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:59.000 who's the uh, the cinematographer for the eighth Star Wars movie. So apparently 108 00:06:59.079 --> 00:07:02.199 J. J Abrams and I haven't confirmed this, but apparently jj Abrams said, 109 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:04.839 like, all right, blanket statement, everyone who's making the next three 110 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:08.879 Star Wars movies, they have to be on film because the first ones were 111 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:15.560 also And this director of photography was like, I much preferred digital. So 112 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:24.879 he went out this cinematographer and like shot film and digital together. And then 113 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:30.439 he apparently has devised, over a period of ten years, an algorithm two 114 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:40.600 create digital film that looks like or digital video that looks like film without a 115 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:43.959 reference file, so you don't have to shoot film at the same time and 116 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:47.279 then tweak it to a digital This is super video nerdy. But I'm the 117 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:51.519 video producer and I'm on this podcast. So is it just like a from 118 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:56.519 a drop down menu you just select film eyes basically? Does it? So 119 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:59.879 what he did, He's like, he ran his filter on it and then 120 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:03.800 also shot film side by side and then put them both up there. Is 121 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:07.639 that why it's called side by side? That's why that documentary is called side 122 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.720 by side. This is a searate video. Yeah, yeah, but I 123 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:15.639 can't indistinguishable. Yeah yeah that yeah, that the the The conclusion of that 124 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.959 documentary is pretty grim for people who were holding onto film well, but it's 125 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:22.199 also really heartening because like there was there was a point where everyone was like, 126 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:24.800 yeah, this is like digital is way inferior than film, blah blah 127 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:28.519 blah. And then like one camera, I forget if it's the RI or 128 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:31.639 one of the red cameras are Alexa and the Red Epic I think are the 129 00:08:31.679 --> 00:08:35.720 two in that one that they but this documentary is like three years old at 130 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:37.039 this point, so they are probably better cameras. But even then they were 131 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:39.600 like, yeah, these are these are it almost there? Yeah, this 132 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.679 is this is what we were looking for, and now everyone's ready. Surprisingly, 133 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.159 Chris Nolan, I didn't realize he was such a film star. Dude, 134 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:48.000 he is. He is such a luddite, it's crazy, Like, 135 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.679 yeah, watch behind the scenes on some of his movies, Like he does 136 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:52.440 everything on the set that he possibly can. Yeah, So what is it? 137 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.840 What is the argument against digital? I mean, obviously the cameras are 138 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:58.759 getting there, but like, what was other other than like the nostalgia factor. 139 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:01.600 There's there's feel, Yeah, there's a there's a kind of a touchy 140 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.080 feel, the element of this is what we grew up with and have used 141 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:07.240 for a century. I totally get that and our use to and I would 142 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.720 say that's bullshit. Well that's the argument. That's kind of just why, 143 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:13.120 like why the cinematographer put this thing up here. It's like, look, 144 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:16.159 I can, I can do this and it's indistinguishable. Yeah, so what's 145 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:18.679 the point. I mean, they're you know there there were so much more 146 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:22.919 expensive and hard to do, and you can't get a film camera some places. 147 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:28.480 There were arguments about color timing and resolution and stuff like that stuff, 148 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:30.879 I want to ask, what is it? But that stuff has advanced so 149 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.519 fast with digital in the last five years that those arguments aren't really valid anymore, 150 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.639 least scorting to this documentary. But so yeah, it's yeah, that's 151 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:39.879 the crazier part of that documentary, which is like, but I didn't know 152 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:46.240 that in the past, a colorist only had like red, green, blue, 153 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:50.240 and luminance, like that's it, yeah, for the for all of 154 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.279 film. And now you've got like with digital you can do you can turn 155 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:56.480 the sky purple, you know, like you could like, oh brother, 156 00:09:56.519 --> 00:10:01.080 where art Thou could not have been made because they wanted all, like all 157 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:05.919 the natural foliage and stuff to look brown but retain the blue sky. You 158 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:11.360 can't do that in film because you're changing the entire color. Prodot didn't do 159 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:13.559 some of that too. Yeah, not on the same time, I guess. 160 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:18.879 I don't know if they it's called bleach bypass. That may have been 161 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:24.159 a like an actual chemical process. Oh okay with the film, I don't 162 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.960 actually know. I remember thinking it was bullshit because I went into a college 163 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.799 for film school and I was just editing on final cut and premiere back then. 164 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.000 Yeah, and you go into your first film production classes, and they're 165 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.600 like, okay, well you gotta spend hundreds of dollars to buy like thirty 166 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:39.799 feet of film or whatever and actually cut it up and stuff. Why do 167 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:43.279 we have to fucking this is twelve fifteen years ago. That's That's the thing 168 00:10:43.279 --> 00:10:46.000 with like a remote film set for a major motion picture, you are like 169 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:50.159 sending truckloads of film like to in front of the set every day, you 170 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:52.279 know, castle expense, Like you have to have a developer like there, 171 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.840 so you don't see it until a day later. The workflow, the workflow 172 00:10:56.919 --> 00:11:01.360 arguments are are self evident, you know. Yeah, uh it's it's it's 173 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:07.039 a lot more romanticized than that. But that documentary is fantastic. Yeah, 174 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.840 And I love the look of film, and so does this this. Uh 175 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.919 I wish I could remember his name, but the cinematographer for Star Wars episode 176 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.639 eight, he's like, that's like my favorite look. Probably do just just 177 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.559 because I've been watching film for so long. But I can make digital look 178 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.000 like that, so why not? Right? But it's so much easier and 179 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:26.360 cheaper yea, And they can't, like you said, the cameras are smaller. 180 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:30.480 You can get them in a lot of weirder places. Is he then 181 00:11:30.519 --> 00:11:33.240 being allowed to not shoot this movie on film? I don't know. I 182 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:39.039 mean that that plays into the whole like like nostalgia tinged Disney marketing mechanism of 183 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.039 like they're all practical effects and it's being shot on film, and it's being 184 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:43.600 made like the ones you liked and not the ones that you hated. Like 185 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:48.960 that's basically the crux, you know what. Like I think that's fine because 186 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:56.039 Star Wars is such a like landmark film. It's the sort of thing like 187 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:00.120 if you said, oh, we're making some offshoot Star Wars movie, it 188 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:01.960 has to be shot on film, that wouldn't really I wouldn't really get that. 189 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.559 Well, they've already been saying about like they hired the cinematographer from black 190 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.759 Hawk down for Rogue One, like like they are stylistically moving kind of a 191 00:12:09.799 --> 00:12:13.159 field of what Star Wars has been for for those offshoots. Yeah, but 192 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:18.159 anyway, that stuff remains to be seen video. It also remains very red 193 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:24.080 in here. Yeah, devilishly read. I don't think I actually think that 194 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:26.919 I need to keep steeping in this should Yeah, after the quick look we 195 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:35.080 just recorded devil Daggers man was Devil Daggers shot on film. Devil Daggers was 196 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:41.679 shot on the Quake one software Renderers of the Day. It totally has the 197 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:46.000 look of It's actually, uh, it's way more than just the low resolutionists 198 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:50.279 of it. Like the character movement looks and feels like Quake one, like 199 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.360 when you when you strafe left and right. Though there's a little subtle like 200 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:56.919 tilt like tilt, yeah, just like Quake, like a bit of a 201 00:12:56.000 --> 00:13:01.120 rocket jump. It very much feels like an homage visually the bunny hopping. 202 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:03.320 If you don't know what we're talking about. Devil Daggers is a first person 203 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:09.039 I guess the shorthand I use the first person in geometry Wars. Yeah, 204 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.440 it's like Geometra Wars or like Robotron or but it's it's but it's like a 205 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.919 run based game. You your score is your time. You want the last 206 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.600 so long as you can, and very quick responds yeah. The number, 207 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:22.519 Yeah, the number of enemies you kill means nothing in terms of the leader 208 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:24.320 boards. It's purely just how long you can survive. Yeah. It takes 209 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:28.759 place on this very small playfield, like just this kind of round platform that 210 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.440 you can fall off the side of it's very dark, so you can't always 211 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:33.919 see the edge like they usually. You totally use the darkness against you on 212 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:37.639 some of the later enemies, making it harder to see their weak points and 213 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:39.919 stuff like that. Well, you say the Geometry Wars thing, but the 214 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:41.960 scary thing is that in Geometry Wars you can always see the pack that's chasing 215 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:45.240 you around, right, And with this one, it's just a bunch of 216 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:48.559 fucking skulls and you know they're behind you all the time, but you don't 217 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:50.679 see him until you turn around. There's just right there in your face. 218 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.600 Is extremely important to get. Yeah, because because all the enemies have different 219 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:56.720 sound cues. Yep, there's like a tell that you can hear based on 220 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:58.960 what kind of enemy is about sneak up behind you. It's great sound too. 221 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:03.519 I've seen some people complain about like the fact that you can't see everything 222 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.480 making the game kind of unfair, But I would argue, if there are 223 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:09.919 things chasing you to the point that you can't get away from them, like 224 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:13.519 you've already sucked up, like that game is about threat management. Yeah, 225 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:18.480 and like keeping the enemy spawners down as fast as you can, clearing the 226 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:20.759 board as much as you can, right, Like you just if if the 227 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:22.399 enemies are building up to a point that they're going to overwhelm you, it's 228 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.360 because you're failing. Like that's just the way that you have to play that 229 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:28.960 game, and that's how you will die in that game, is at some 230 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.200 point inevitably you are going to get overwhelmed because you haven't cleared the board enough, 231 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:33.759 right, and you're gonna run into or back into some spire or some 232 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:37.799 group of enemies. So I think I got just over seventy seconds. Yeah, 233 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:41.759 And the game operates on a set like everything kind of spawns at the 234 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:43.720 same time, like it seems to escalate it a set progression. Every everything 235 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.879 seems very SI. If there was something that I had to say that I 236 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:50.120 kind of didn't like about that game, it would actually be that. Yeah, 237 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:52.960 and I get that, like, you know, if you want a 238 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.960 fair leader board, then you kind of need everyone to have the same run 239 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:01.519 more or less. But there's something about like kind of not knowing what's coming 240 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:03.720 your way. And I'm sure, you know, if I was actually good 241 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:05.279 at the game and saw more of it than I would forget. But I 242 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.360 know that the big spidery thing appears at forty seconds. Yeah, yeah, 243 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:11.440 that sort of stuff. I don't think the location is static, but definitely 244 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:16.679 the timing of definitely is. Yeah, that'll introduce some randomness just because like 245 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:20.399 if the enemy spawners happened to be on opposite sides of the platform, you're 246 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.000 kind of gonna have a problem clearing both at the same time. But I 247 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.799 think it feels fair though, like it's super super hard. But every time 248 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:30.279 I die, I feel like it's my fault. I guess I'm with you, 249 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:31.720 but I feel like I'm still getting like hit from the side and so 250 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:33.960 you know, like, so what what times are you getting because I maybe 251 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:37.639 maybe guys spent eight okay, so maybe you spent way more time with it 252 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:39.840 to get there. Though that that feels because I'm still like, oh wait, 253 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.519 wait, why did I just I think mine was a fluke because normally, 254 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:48.039 like I die right around the time the spider spawns, and then I 255 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:50.240 kind of freak out and can't kill that, and that's at the same time 256 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:52.600 the like superspire with the two gems. Yeah, uh spawns, and that's 257 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:56.840 a different type of horn thing. Yeah, the horn thing that chases they 258 00:15:56.879 --> 00:16:00.720 kind of perpetually kills me that not got pass over that hump yet. Yeah, 259 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.840 the hump for me is fifty five to sixty seconds. That's almost always. 260 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:08.120 Yeah, absolutely, my best is one seventy one, but I can't 261 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:11.000 even I typically can't even come close to that. Like, yeah, that 262 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.399 that forty to fifty seconds span is the crucible you have to get through to 263 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.000 get a higher time, Like if you don't execute perfectly at that moment, 264 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:21.679 you are just not gonna make it. Yeah, yeah, I think my 265 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:23.159 highest score was a fluke definitely. But a cool thing you can do is 266 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:27.120 look at everyone's high score run because at anyone on the leaderboard, like on 267 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:30.639 your Steam friends list or whatever, you just click this button next their name 268 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:33.279 and you watch their entire run. You can speed it up, slow down, 269 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.000 all that stuff. It's real great. I just I don't know how 270 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:38.960 I feel about a game like this where I, like, I would estimate 271 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:41.919 eighty percent of my runs are coming it in coming in at about a third 272 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.240 of my best time. But don't you feel like somehow not really you know, 273 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.159 you got to that best time once, right, I mean, well 274 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:52.600 I got like, you know, I was hitting ninety seconds every so often, 275 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:53.679 and then I got like one hundred and twenty a couple times, like 276 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:57.159 it's it's been iterative, but I can't. It's just the number of times 277 00:16:57.159 --> 00:17:00.519 that I fail out super quick because I was figuring, figuring this game would 278 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:03.920 be about those kind of checkpoints like at the forty to fifty second range, 279 00:17:03.920 --> 00:17:07.240 like you're talking about like okay, devil daggers, Like I'm gonna get past 280 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:11.559 this one and then the next you know, kind of hectic moment or or 281 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:15.160 hey, I'm gonna set this new score and then hopefully I won't regress or 282 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:18.559 all start getting to that point like like all the time. That's that's what 283 00:17:18.599 --> 00:17:22.960 I mean. I keep regressing, keeps forty fifty. That's frustrating every every 284 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:26.359 single time. It's driving me crazy. It's it's specifically that first spider spawn 285 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:27.839 and what you have to do to get through that stuff, because the spider 286 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.480 eats the gems that let you upgrade your web. What, oh, you 287 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.160 didn't know that. Yeah, that's that's crucial. As its alive, it's 288 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:37.720 sucking all the gyms and the fucker kill that things. I am bad at 289 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.039 killing the spider, yeah I do. That's the other problems. Do you 290 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.359 have to shoot the glowing part. Specifically, there's a larger part that seems 291 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:47.920 to abandon flow. Realize that either in the quick look because you shoot the 292 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:49.440 red thing on the spire. So when I saw the spider, like, 293 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:52.359 oh yeah, the spires, the red gym is the weak point on the 294 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:56.359 spider. The red gym is below the weak point, which is its face. 295 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:00.319 But it's super hard to see its face because it floats off to the 296 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.599 side of the platform where you can't walk. I didn't notice the flashes like 297 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:06.400 yellow or something that hit it, But the yellow flashing part is the weak 298 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:07.960 point. Yeah, when you shoot it, that's what thing to face the 299 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:11.480 lights up, that's the weak point. But devil tagers, it's really hard 300 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:15.319 to see that weak point and zero in on it and be that thing can 301 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:18.160 kind of fold itself up and just hide its face whenever it wants. Yeah, 302 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:21.960 yeah, so it can become invincible every So like that that ten seconds 303 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.880 stretch there makes or breaks every run, and it breaks most of them for 304 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:29.640 me. And that is actually that's that's Yeah. I typically don't kept past 305 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:34.200 forty forty five fifties something like that. Yeah, I wash out there pretty 306 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:38.680 often too, And yeah, like I'm I'm actually I was very hot and 307 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:42.119 heavy on this game coming out of us playing it on the show on Friday, 308 00:18:42.480 --> 00:18:45.960 and then spent a little bit of time with it over the weekend, 309 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:48.960 and I don't know how much more devil Tackers I have left in me, 310 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.039 which for five dollar game, that's okay, sure, you know, like 311 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.960 like that's that's all right, But that that one, that one odd run 312 00:18:56.000 --> 00:19:00.880 where you managed to get the upgrade and kill the spider and just start clear 313 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:03.519 and shit feels incredible. I've yet to get an upgrade like that is a 314 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:07.400 best moment contender or the first time you get that upgrade and then just start 315 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.039 like wiping everything off the map, like it feels amazing, But it doesn't 316 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:15.319 come often enough for my taste, like feeling like you're like you're like jumping 317 00:19:15.359 --> 00:19:18.559 and grasping at this ring that you're trying to grab onto and only like one 318 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:21.240 out of every like thirty hops do you actually managed to get your fingers on 319 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:25.480 it. Yeah, that's my analogy. How do you get that upgrade? 320 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:30.559 It's just ten gems that drop from from certain enemies. Certain enemies, yes, 321 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.480 okay, the spires, the skull, the horns, skulls, and 322 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.759 like once you get to like the centipede and stuff, there's a time. 323 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:38.799 Yes, I've seen the centipede two or three times. Wow, wait, 324 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:44.920 so were we not getting ten gems? Were I still never have? I 325 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:48.200 played like six hours this weekend. I didn't get it once, and I 326 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:51.359 know what you have to do. Like we're getting gyms left and right, 327 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:53.960 but I guess so the spider will eat them. They'll also just blink out. 328 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:57.079 They'll start flickering and vanish if you don't pick them up fasterma, And 329 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:00.240 if you're shooting, they're not gonna magnet ties to you. Ye, stop 330 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.799 shooting, and then they suck indies. So you can only you can Oh, 331 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.319 you can typically only get like eight or nine gems by the time the 332 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:10.480 spider spawns and starts taking them from you. So you have to focus that 333 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:12.480 thing down and then you'll be able to get enough. Hopefully. It's a 334 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:17.680 fucking harsh master. Yeah, it's a really mean game, but it's it's 335 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:21.319 super satisfying when it all clicks. It just doesn't. It doesn't quite click 336 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:22.720 often enough for me. I was telling Brad in the quick look, like 337 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.359 even if it's something where I get frustrated enough and I'm not gonna, you 338 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:29.079 know, keep playing because I feel like I've topped out in skill level wise. 339 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:32.160 It's gonna be a fun one to watch the leaderboards because just in the 340 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:33.599 few days I've been playing it and watching it, like, there are these 341 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:37.039 names I'm recognizing. Now there's Matt Bush the developer, and there's that bone 342 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:41.039 Carver guy who got that initial like eight minute run. Now there's this new 343 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:44.160 person who's using your name. It's just like twitch slash whatever. The top 344 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:48.920 guy on the leaderboard has his twitchy arnalysts user name right, sweet, So 345 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:51.920 like I want to watch that almost like a Steve web Billy Mitchell type thing, 346 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:53.519 like, oh yeah, who totally got this, totally got the American 347 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:56.759 flag tie, who's sell barbecue sauce? Like totally. The name bone Carver 348 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.039 was like floating in my head all weekend. I see a bone Carver is 349 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:04.079 doing his name. It is his his his top run that we saw on 350 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:07.799 Friday. It got invalidated over the weekend due to a patch. Yeah I 351 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:11.440 might so they patched it and I think it maybe tweets something that broke his 352 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:15.160 run or something. Anyway, Yeah, he vanished off the leaderboard. He's 353 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:19.039 back like like number two right now. Uh, but yeah, it's it's 354 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:23.680 gonna be fascinating to watch people break that game open. Well, and you 355 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:26.599 were saying that it sounds like Matt Bush might have said somewhere that they're like 356 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.400 thirteen bosses. I need to verify that. I don't know if that's the 357 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:32.759 case or not. But so, Drew, we remember the bone chandelier. 358 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:34.680 Yeah, yeah, we saw the current number one as of the time this 359 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:40.720 recording, the current number one run has the guy beating the bone shandlights bone 360 00:21:40.720 --> 00:21:44.480 shan. Imagine if that is correct, If there's like thirteen bosses and the 361 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:47.519 top in the world has only beaten one of them, Like that seems like 362 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:48.680 such a cool idea. Though, even if there's you know, five or 363 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:52.759 six that like, how long is it going to take for someone to actually 364 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:55.440 beat that guy? How do you develop that? I'm gonna I don't ask. 365 00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:59.799 My question is the developer of holding back deliberate? But like he's he's 366 00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:03.759 a like number what two or three on the leader board? Is that deliberate? 367 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:06.160 So he's not like, here's a run that shows everything that the game 368 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:11.759 has to offer. Yea, yeah, maybe just keep yourself up there. 369 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:14.160 Yeah, but just like people know, like I'm here. Yeah, yeah, 370 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:15.519 I'm not going anywhere. I'm trying to fact check that now and see 371 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:18.440 if I can actually figure out how many. I don't know where I saw 372 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:22.960 that about there being a bunch of bosses in it, but fact checking. 373 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.960 But think about that though, If there are actually a ton of bosses in 374 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:27.720 this game and the best person in the world has only barely beaten the first 375 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:30.640 time, yeah, that's great, I'll never see any of them. Well, 376 00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:33.039 no, you can watch their run. It becomes more of a spectator 377 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:37.559 sport at that point, and I don't know there's enough Like the audio visual 378 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:42.319 nature the side of of of this game is so haunting that I don't like 379 00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:45.880 watching it for longer at the time, I don't like hearing it. It 380 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:48.599 creeps me out. Yes, I eventually hit a spot with Devil Daggers or 381 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:52.039 I'm like, okay, Devil Daggers, I'm gonna stop playing Devil Daggers. 382 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:55.359 Find you need to. It seems like that's the game you need to just 383 00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:57.400 like really grind away on. Yeah, as long as you've got the patience, 384 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:00.319 you know, until your patience goes then you know, Okay, I 385 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:03.039 need to stop for a few hours. I find myself coming away from it 386 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:06.559 with a really gross, like nervous energy. Yeah. Yeause it's so stressfuich, 387 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:08.119 he's just so stressful. I was playing on Friday night. It did 388 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:11.079 not It did not help me. Yeah, and any Yes, I was 389 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:15.799 not in a good place after that. I was feeling a little loggy after 390 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.599 lunch just now though, and then we did that win did that quickly. 391 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:19.720 Yeah, it is kind of a little bit lowgy, Yes, logy, 392 00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:25.319 waylaid by some burritos, Like oh, like you ate like you're full or 393 00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:29.279 you feel yes, exactly got you. We did that quick look though, 394 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:32.200 and I was just like low after dark, ready to go, man like 395 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:34.440 I played some devil Daggers. Let's do this. It'll wake you up for 396 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:40.599 sure. Uh, it is worth five dollars. It is absolutely worth five 397 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:45.519 dollars just to see how mean it is. And it doesn't look and sound 398 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.119 amazing. Yeah, it's it's pretty cool if you're if you're in the first 399 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:51.519 person shooters of a certain time period. Yeah. So we were talking about 400 00:23:51.720 --> 00:23:56.119 we were recording a demo Derby earlier today, which I guess I'll be on 401 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:59.200 the side is coming examined by the time you were just coming soon comes yea 402 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:02.160 ten this week, yeah, sometimes week, and uh, we were talking 403 00:24:02.200 --> 00:24:07.200 a little bit about Quake World. Well yeah, quake what about it? 404 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:10.200 I don't know, it's it's just it's just how crazy it was, like 405 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:15.960 the the the predictive, like the client side prediction of Quake World and what 406 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.920 and how meaningful that is or kind of video games too that followed. It 407 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:22.599 was like it was when Quake came out and it played like garbage on a 408 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:26.920 modem and everybody was super mad. Yeah, and Carmack I think it was 409 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:29.079 his Carmack or one of the other I think it was like Karmack and some 410 00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:30.599 motters or something sat down and make Quake World. Didn't No, No, 411 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.920 it was all him. I wasn't but it was right after wrong, so 412 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.240 it was it was right after release. But but I think it was him 413 00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:38.920 that came out and literally said, hey, we played this on an IPX 414 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:41.519 network in our office. We didn't realize it would be just bad. Yeah, 415 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:45.480 yeah, like wait, they were they We talked about this in those 416 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:49.880 uh what if his plan files. Yeah, you can go back to ninety 417 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.640 seven or whatever if you were if you were if you were to finger John 418 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.519 c Att Software dot com, which I do all the time every day, 419 00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.599 you would have seen, yeah, like look for more updates. But yeah, 420 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:03.400 it was it was that was actually this weird like game developer privileged situation 421 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:07.079 of like we play on the supers in our office. We didn't actually test 422 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:11.079 this on a modem because nobody's ever made a multiplayer shooter that runs over modems 423 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:14.640 like this before, so we didn't jo It was like, oh, let 424 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.119 me just solve this, right. So then so then he comes comes up 425 00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:19.920 with this like standard setting solution for like yeah, for a client side predictive 426 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:23.599 movement and all that stuff. But that was such a weird time for PC 427 00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:27.400 shooters because oh yeah, yeah, developers were just coming up with these massive 428 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:33.279 innovations left and right for like skin support and mods and online multiplayer and just 429 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:34.400 all that stuff. It was very happening. Yes, it was fun. 430 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:37.119 It was fun to be right there with a PC that was good enough to 431 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.720 run all that stuff. Yep, Playing bought and then I bought my Voodoo 432 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:45.359 Playing Quick at three hundred pink. Yeah, totally three hundred mill second. 433 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:47.799 I had more of like it me was. It was mark like two eighty 434 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:48.799 five. Yeah, that's yeah, that's about right. Yeah, I was. 435 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.680 I was on a twenty eight eight at the time. Those are fun 436 00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:59.039 times, but those that was then. This is now, Okay, what's 437 00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:03.240 what's now now? It's been going on? Is Far Cry Primal now? 438 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:07.960 Gosh? Right, after sitting through that quick look and then you reviewed it 439 00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:11.400 and then I forgot we would have to talk about it left that much of 440 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:15.599 an impression on you. Huh. It's man, I there was a real 441 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.759 roller coaster of emotions with my time with Far Cry Primal. You know it 442 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.400 really there are things about that game that I really like and a lot of 443 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:30.839 it that I think is one hundred and ten percent forgettable. Uh you know. 444 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.480 So this is the far Cry that takes place in ten thousand BC e 445 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.799 uh for the Common era, Yeah, before the Common era, the Uncommon 446 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:44.880 era, the Uncola era, and you slam seven ups and club Saver to 447 00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:47.880 the tigers. It's awesome and that actually sounds like an okay, it does 448 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:52.400 sound all right, it's just cool spot two all right. Yeah, so 449 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:57.079 this is uh, take all the things about Far Cry skinning animals to get 450 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:03.000 upgrades, taking out so there's no okay, I'm gonna blow your mind here. 451 00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:06.200 Okay, there's no wallet and there's no currency. What are you gonna 452 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:07.559 do with an animal hide? You're gonna you know, well, you're gonna 453 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:14.000 use an animal hide the generic term animal hide to build your weapons? Is 454 00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:15.720 it not specific? Like, oh, there's a cassowarier. So there are 455 00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:19.799 also specific animal skins that those are used for the upgrades, but there's just 456 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:25.319 a resource for like, hey, I threw all my spears and I need 457 00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:27.400 to make more spears. So when you skin an animal, you get their 458 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:30.440 specific skin, like a you know, a badger skin or something like that. 459 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.119 But then you also get like I got two animal hides also, Okay, 460 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:37.119 under the skin is the hide. It's just like a general currency of 461 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:38.720 swords for crafting. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. What does a bandicoot 462 00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:45.440 skin get you? And nothing? It gets you bought by Activision. So 463 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.480 are you saying there are more types of currency and materials. It's like they 464 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:55.599 doubled and tripled down on the crafting aspects of the game, which I liked 465 00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:59.200 those in the previous games, but only because they were kind of that means 466 00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:03.079 to an end, and it was a fun diversion from the things you were 467 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:03.960 doing. It was like, oh, well, I'm gonna go hunt this 468 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:07.279 stuff for a little while and then get back to you know, take an 469 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.400 out posts and do amissions and allsother stuff where it's like a lot of this 470 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.279 game like there are so there's a village in this game, and you have 471 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.640 to build huts and you have to upgrade the huts, and that's also resources. 472 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:21.240 So you're like, well, here's a fucked up tree. I'm gonna 473 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:23.799 go take this wood, and I'm gonna use some of that wood for building 474 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.880 more arrows, but I'm also going to save some of that would in my 475 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:32.240 pack and that will eventually be used to upgrade a hut back at the village, 476 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:37.640 which will unlock more skills for me to buy and will potentially also advanced 477 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:44.519 story in some cases. And so like they really just they made a far 478 00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:48.119 Cry game that was way more about the crafting, and it seems like this 479 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:52.160 super misguided thing. Like though like yeah, I was, you have to 480 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:53.839 wonder like if they if they thought, like if they looked at all the 481 00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.640 other like survival games coming out and it's like, man, we've been doing 482 00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.960 that for years, let's just blow that out. But they blow it out 483 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.880 at the at the expense seemingly of the rest of the game. So like, 484 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.559 it has main missions and it has secondary missions, but like the main 485 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:15.799 missions are really underwhelming and the storyline is incredibly thin and lifeless. And as 486 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.440 I finished it and didn't realize I had finished it, if it was like, 487 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:23.599 oh, that's like the opposite of finishing Far Cry for super right, 488 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.839 Well, I think the opposite is finishing Middle. You're solid five thinking you're 489 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.359 finished, and then there's more. You'll be finished about six more credit roles 490 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:34.119 from there, and actually, so I apparently finished it out of order because 491 00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:37.519 they're basically it's like you're you eventually, so you are building up your village 492 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.839 and as you you know, and Far Cry they would have the missions where 493 00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.519 it's like, hey, here's two guards walking a prisoner through the open world, 494 00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.000 and if you just shoot those guys and free the guy, and then 495 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.039 it's like, yay, well, now when you do that, a villager 496 00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:53.400 gets added to your village's population, and there are other missions that get When 497 00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:57.000 you take over an outpost, you get more population, and that population number 498 00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.920 translates into XP bonuses and more resources, more resources for more crafting. The 499 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.079 guys, and also, you know, kind of just just eventually gets you 500 00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:12.640 more XP so so they've they've built that into it as well. But yeah, 501 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.960 so you're building up your tribe, but there are two other tribes, 502 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:19.599 and there are you know missions along the way to kind of take on those 503 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.200 other tribes that are you know, ones up in the north where it's icy, 504 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:29.359 ones down south and they like to throw firebombs, and yeah, and 505 00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:34.799 i'd beat the Ice Tribe. So they sent over a review guide that talks 506 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:37.319 about you know, hey, here's you know, a mission one, mission 507 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:40.160 two, and I went and looked at that after I finished the game, 508 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:44.079 and they had the last mission as beating the Ice Tribe, which the conclusion 509 00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:47.160 of like after that mission there was something somewhat meaningful that happened, and I 510 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:48.359 was like, oh, okay, that's interesting, But I still have to 511 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.640 go beat the other tribe and they're the real bad guys, right, Like 512 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.599 apparently they have it the other way, which is super weird for the progression 513 00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:57.920 of the game. It actually doesn't make much sense. And sure enough, 514 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.119 like the conclusion of that side of things, this is just nothing. It's 515 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.039 just like it feels like a mid game story point I murdered that boss and 516 00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.200 now we're out here doing more. But that's actually how both of them go. 517 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:14.920 So it's like this weird just basically like it makes the whole game feel 518 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:18.359 like it's one long side mission and nothing of import happens, and like I 519 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.319 don't remember, you know, like the whole game is not so that it's 520 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:25.559 forced subtitles because no one speaks English. They're speaking a I don't know if 521 00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.839 it's a made up language or maybe it's an actual based on there could be 522 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:33.599 some historical basis in this prehistorical uh, cave man language. I thought that 523 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.200 was a really interesting point. Uh, it's it's neat that they did it, 524 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.799 but it actually it left me feeling totally detached from the happenings of the 525 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.759 game because I just don't I just don't care about any of the cut scenes. 526 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.960 They're just like they're shouting and nonsense. And it's like reading the subtitles 527 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:51.480 going like and then subtitles written in like a very like caveman kind of way. 528 00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:55.200 That's super weird. It's like like even the subtitles look like Tarzan and 529 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.000 speak yeah, and that's that's a little that was a kind of hard to 530 00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:01.559 read. Yeah, and it's all so very inconsistent with that which is front 531 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.079 or the way they're actually like me, do this like a manner of speech? 532 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.279 Okay, Yeah, I have to imagine that they sort of leave that 533 00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:13.960 behind whenever they need to express them or complicated idea. Yeah, but there 534 00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:20.200 are very few complicated ideas at play in Far Cry prim people Jeff, Yeah, 535 00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.960 but you know there's no tower climbing, but it has its drug trip 536 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.759 equivalent, you know, it has it's you know, hey, clear out 537 00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:29.880 this outpost to get a fast travel point, and you know there's a lot 538 00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:31.119 of animals to deal with. Some One of the other things they added was 539 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:35.400 animal taming, and you you know how you could throw out and meet as 540 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.640 Baits and previous far Cries. Now, if you have the right skill points 541 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:42.799 invested, you can walk up and hit tame and then you can have a 542 00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:46.079 leopard that runs around and kills shit for you specific animals or ye, specific 543 00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:51.039 creditors, not anything. Right. So you know, by the midpoint of 544 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:52.400 the game, I had to stab or shoot the tiger just running right, 545 00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.359 And I could write it if I wanted to, But the writing animal controls 546 00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.519 in that game I think are actually super bad. They always happened. Is 547 00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:00.200 it something you could summon at times? Or do you summ it whenever you 548 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.319 need it? If it dies, it's gone forever. If it dies you 549 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.599 it has a timer that ticks down you can walk up, so basically you 550 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.880 feed it meat, the same meat you would used to heal yourself. And 551 00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:14.839 if that timer expires before you give it meat, you then have to spend 552 00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:19.000 like two or three red leaves to get it back. But you can call 553 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.400 like any other animal that you've tamed also, So if you're just like whatever, 554 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:22.359 that one's dead, I don't have leaves, I'm gonna call him the 555 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:24.279 bear that I tamed earlier. You know, you can do that too, 556 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:29.759 okay, and it was you know, it's an AI companion, and you 557 00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:32.359 you're limited to basically like ordering it to a location or ordering it to attack 558 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:38.359 a target. And sometimes that's fine. One time I ordered my tiger into 559 00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:42.359 a village to start fucking people up, and it got stuck in the environment. 560 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.759 And like the pathing on, it is sometimes really bad. And sometimes 561 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.200 it'll just like you know, like if you swim across something, it'll just 562 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:51.119 materialize next to you. When you get out of the water. They had 563 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:52.400 some of that and ford didn't they like when you had the drug trips stuff 564 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.720 where you just had the like spirit bow and then it was some sort of 565 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:58.119 like white Lion or something that yeah, yeah, yeah, but that was 566 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.359 Yes, you would like point at agro of enemies and it should go over 567 00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:04.680 there and attack them, right, yeah, basically the same type of thing. 568 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.960 Uh yeah, same type of thing, and uh, you know, 569 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.079 I think it's it's well done, but it makes an easy game even easier 570 00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.000 in a way like which seems completely at odds with the idea that like they 571 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:19.679 looked at survival games on on Twitch and we're like, well, let's lean 572 00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.440 into that. Who knows if that's what they did. Yeah, case, 573 00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.679 well, when when you're talking about that, like with the crafting system, 574 00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.679 are we talking about them doubling down on the crafting stuff and the way that 575 00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:32.400 it feels like like they're doubling down in the in the way that like farc 576 00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:37.599 right does it putting it sticking a rock together to build a club. But 577 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:39.760 you're just collecting stones everywhere you go, and you're collecting sticks everywhere you go, 578 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.360 so basically you're going into a menu, you're into your weapon wheel actually, 579 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.079 and you're you're already on club and anytime you can hit the X button 580 00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:51.880 on PS four to just craft more clubs instantly, all right, And you 581 00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:53.480 know you can set your if you have animal fat, you can set your 582 00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:57.320 weapons on fire with it, and then if you leave it on fire long 583 00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.760 enough, it will burn up and you'll have to craft another one. You 584 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:02.800 can hold like five clubs by the time you're done crafting belts not some other 585 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.039 shit. You know, you've got five spears and six or six spears or 586 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:08.960 something, and you know, six clubs and some two handed clubs, and 587 00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:14.840 two bows, three bows, and forty eight arrows. So by the end 588 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.559 of the game, I had forty meats that I could hold. I could 589 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:20.800 hold forty meats. That's a lot of meat when you use it. When 590 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.840 you use one to heal like three points of life and one to heal fifty 591 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:30.760 percent of your animals health. How many you can have up to six you 592 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:36.519 start with three, okay, And it's not a difficult game at that point, 593 00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:37.960 Like even you know missions where I'm just like I have like five guys 594 00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:43.760 surrounding me and they are setting me on fucking fire. That's bad, but 595 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.880 I'm just gonna hold down the meat button and everything's okay. Uh So yeah, 596 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:51.480 like like the death was not a problem in that game. Uh in 597 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.880 a way that is really at odds with this whole like kind of you know, 598 00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:55.559 hey, it's hard to survive out here. Like, no, it's 599 00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.239 totally not. It's totally not. In terms of like over all length, 600 00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.679 does it feel like a full scale farcrier? Is it more like an offshooting 601 00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:06.239 Blood Dragon? It's longer than I mean, it's full price, So it's 602 00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:10.360 that's that's not like Blood Dragon was. It was thirty right? Was twenty? 603 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:15.920 I don't I don't actually know. It feels like a Blood Dragon's worth 604 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:22.880 of content stretched out stretched, thin, stretched to the breaking point, you 605 00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.880 know. Uh. I So it took me fourteen and a half hours to 606 00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:31.639 finish the story stuff and it called that thirty five percent complete? Were you 607 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:35.719 I was? I did a ton of I did almost all of the upgrades. 608 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:38.800 Oh okay along the way, that's crazy. What is what is sixty 609 00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.719 some odd percent of that game? There are a ton of secondary so you 610 00:36:42.719 --> 00:36:45.280 know how when you would go into when you take an out post, it 611 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.079 would pop up like, hey, there's a signpost here that tells you about 612 00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:51.159 a mission somewhere else. All those missions are out in the world too, 613 00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:53.599 like a racing challenge or something. There's no I don't think there's anything but 614 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:55.679 like that type of thing, yeah, that type of stuff. Yeah. 615 00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:00.360 And and so a lot of those events are just duplicated and laid out everywhere, 616 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.239 like the map is a mess about it. That's crazy. Uh. 617 00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:06.039 And even even in the open world games with a lot of side stuff, 618 00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.239 I still feel like once you've finished the story and done most of the main 619 00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:14.079 stuff, you would presumably be at least past the fifty percent mark, if 620 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:15.960 not end up in the sixteen. I think it depends on the quality of 621 00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:19.679 the contract. And my problem with it is that you would go hover over 622 00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.079 the icons and you'd see it's like the same handful of events over and over 623 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.199 and over and over again. And I did a handful of those, but 624 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.000 those were not engaging, you know, like like the bulk of the game 625 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.320 felt like I was doing exactly that already, you know. So the idea 626 00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:39.480 of like to go doing more of it for seemingly no reason except for more 627 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:44.360 population, which I didn't need. You only need you need forty villagers to 628 00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:47.440 get the maximum level of HUT upgrades. So everything past forty is just you 629 00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:51.960 getting bonus XP to buy more skill points. But I had more than enough 630 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.559 skill points by the end of that thing to do what I wanted to do. 631 00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:58.719 And then some well, in the previous Farkright games, there was a 632 00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:00.480 lot of stuff that felt kind of same me, like, oh, I'm 633 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:01.800 just taking over these outposts or killing these guys. But then every once in 634 00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:05.199 a while there'd be that big campaign mission where it was like, Okay, 635 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.760 bomb this huge fucking factory, taking an elephant run through, Like are there 636 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:12.000 those big memorable missions at all? Or there is? There is one one 637 00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.960 of the fortress missions has you ride a mammoth through a gate that in a 638 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.159 moment that's like pretty cool. And there's so there's like a couple of little 639 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:21.760 things here and there, but nothing to that degree. Are you burning any 640 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:27.280 pot fields to God? No? None, no pot fields to Scrillo sadly, 641 00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:31.400 Uh yeah, it's and I ended up actually enjoying the combat a lot 642 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:34.679 more than I thought I would. This isn't like a oh there's no guns, 643 00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:37.280 it's no fun sort of thing, like the actual act of taking these 644 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:43.440 spears and just fucking throwing them through people was actual edges that looked really cool. 645 00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:45.519 Yeah, knocking people off off of ledges because you know, this is 646 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:46.519 a bit of carry. You throw a spirit a guy, it's gonna knock 647 00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:52.039 them back a little bit and it's a one hit kill generally. That was 648 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.320 super fun, even the armored enemies, like it has the equivalent of heavies 649 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.880 and a heavy takedown skill that you can get to. You know, if 650 00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.719 you want to do the stealth kills to them those guys, you can throw 651 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:04.840 two maybe three spears at him to kill those guys. Are there any like 652 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.440 flying hawks or anything you can throw spears in, because that's yes. Okay 653 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.599 fish one of the first I'll say one of the yes. There, you 654 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:15.559 can spear fish. You get spear crocodiles. Okay. One of the first 655 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:17.559 things that happened in this game is the fucking bird flew out of the sky 656 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:21.039 and got me, and I was pissed. I was like, all right, 657 00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.159 far cry but uh but yeah that it didn't that didn't happen again. 658 00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:30.119 Yeah, yes, you have an owl that you can call in to fly 659 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:36.480 around and mark targets like the mark of cree kind sure, okay, yeah, 660 00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:38.840 a little bit. I just I don't quite know what to make of 661 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:42.599 the trajectory of the Far Cry series at this point. This feels like a 662 00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:45.800 totally forgettable, stop gap kind of game. I just don't understand. Like 663 00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.360 I came out of four with a certain amount like I love four. I 664 00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.039 thought like four is basically a better game than three, even though it's kind 665 00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.079 of inherently slightly less impressive, right, and it's also like the third one 666 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.519 of those if you count Bloodrags, I mean, well, yeah, that's 667 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:00.880 that's true. Like I was, I know, you were too, like 668 00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:02.480 just fucking bowled over by three, like I was, yeah, man, 669 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:06.800 blown away by it for like you know, some of the shitty story stuff. 670 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:08.400 And I don't like Fright one R two. I'm that one is like 671 00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.800 a such a different, weird throwback at this point, Like I understand why 672 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.679 People Too was like a map reading simulators. Now there's that stuff. I 673 00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.559 mean, like I understand like that, but there just the kind of utterly 674 00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:22.119 open ended like Emergent Chaos of two was maybe a little too wild for me. 675 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:27.719 I'm talking about paper Park. Right two was an incredible game. I 676 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.719 just didn't, you know, I just didn't really enjoy playing it. I 677 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:34.400 just I, you know, whatever it says about my preferences, I wanted 678 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:36.400 it to be a little bit more video game e than it was, and 679 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.440 was absolutely that is the perfect level of dumb power fantasy. Fuck this, 680 00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:45.599 Noblia. Also, I kind of enjoyed the regimented mechanics a little more, 681 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:46.480 you know, of like you know, like you know, one of the 682 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:50.599 big common complaints about two was the responding checkpoints. You know, It's like 683 00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:52.760 you spend time clearing out a checkpoint and then have you walk away with nothing 684 00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:58.039 substantive to add to a progress indicator or whatever, whereas in three, part 685 00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.800 doesn't feel the numbers don't get well, there's that, but also you know, 686 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.320 they also respond so quickly that it was it actually made your life more 687 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.000 difficult because you kept you kept getting shot at every time you drove through any 688 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.920 choke point, no matter what you did. Yeah, Whereas like you you 689 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.000 felt like you were taking over some territory, and three like they made it, 690 00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:16.039 they made it. They gave some some valuable feel like san Andreas in 691 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:19.679 a weird pie, like as you were taking over more of the hood. 692 00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:21.400 Like you know, there was the feeling of like, oh man, I 693 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:23.760 got I got my people everywhere, my family, right, It's like this 694 00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:25.719 three was the sweet spot for me. But yeah, like you know, 695 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:30.480 the more times they iterate on that formula without radically changing it, like the 696 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.639 less impressive it. Yeah, and this is you know, like I said, 697 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.000 the combat is quite different, you know, unless you played the previous 698 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.079 games with a bow, which you could but I didn't. Uh, you 699 00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.159 know, the mail and you can throw anything, which I think is fun 700 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:46.760 and dumb. Uh. You there is a rock that you can throw for 701 00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:50.760 like a distraction thing. Yeah, but also but also you can upgrade that 702 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.400 to a sling that will then break the masks off of guys if you want 703 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:58.719 to expose their head. Does it still reward you for hunting with a bow, 704 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:00.480 because I remember in four or it would make like the hide or whatever 705 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:08.800 more valuable because you hadn't shot. On top of all the crafting in this 706 00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:15.440 game, all of the resource nodes have a chance to drop a rare version 707 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.039 of that resource. So that's the thing when you tell me that they just 708 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:22.199 added subcategories of resources and like this, it just becomes this like top heavy 709 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.039 mess of numbers and yeah, like that's too much. And so you know, 710 00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:28.440 you might get rare south stone, which you need for a different type 711 00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:32.400 of upgrade than regular south stone, and make it a different make it just 712 00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:35.960 a different resource one. Yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah. So 713 00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:37.519 so it's it's it's not that. But with the animals you can tell. 714 00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:39.239 It's like, oh, this is a white wolf. It's gonna have a 715 00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:44.000 white wolf skin instead of the regular wolf. That actually sounds a lot like 716 00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:46.480 just quick side. I'd beat tumb rator this weekend, and you would skin 717 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.440 animals in that, and there is actually a lot of resources and crafting in 718 00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.199 that as well. But like certain one of them would have like a little 719 00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:57.440 glittery sparkle thing indicating it's like a special hide or whatever, but it didn't 720 00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:00.679 really indicate like you'd kill a deer and go, you know, carve it 721 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:01.920 up or whatever and it's like, oh, you got sparkle hight or whatever. 722 00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:06.760 Not normally you wouldn't know this. That's that's well. With the animals, 723 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:07.920 you do know in this, But with plants and trees and all the 724 00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:13.199 south stuff, like oh I got the rare sticks, great rare reads. 725 00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:17.960 It's weird and you can spend your skill points to increase the likelihood that you'll 726 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.400 get rare resources also, which you know, it was never like a huge 727 00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.039 like roadblock for me because like I said, the game is simple, right, 728 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:28.320 so you know it's not you know, I felt like I didn't have 729 00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.800 to go all the way up the tech tree to finish the game. I 730 00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:37.960 just did because I was getting stuff along the way. Uh. And yeah, 731 00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:40.400 it's it's a very strange game in that sense. Like you know, 732 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:44.320 there are aspects of it that I think are are well done, and you 733 00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:46.159 still see a lot of the underpinnings of Far Cry, but by this being 734 00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:51.760 the fourth Far Cry game that sticks to kind of the blueprint that they that 735 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:55.119 they set out that that they executed really well in Far Cry three, by 736 00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:00.639 this being the fourth one of those everything that game did is is not as 737 00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:05.800 impressive today, and and the things that they double down on with the resource 738 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.679 management and gathering and stuff, I think is uh detracts from the game. 739 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:14.280 And I feel like the mission design is really drab, so it's like for 740 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:16.119 as fun as the combat can be, and it's like there are some cool 741 00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:23.840 ideas around the animal management and taming and and some of that stuff. Largely 742 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:29.639 I think the game is like, Unfortunately, you're like really boring. That's 743 00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:35.440 a shame. And yeah, so it's it's a really weird thing. You 744 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.880 know. They announced it kind of out of nowhere and it shipped pretty soon 745 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:40.760 afterwards. And you know, I think like, if this was something that 746 00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:45.519 was a tighter package, that was like more Blood Dragon in scope yea, 747 00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.639 and in price and stuff like that, like this would make total sense. 748 00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:51.320 You'd be like, oh, after Farkry four, you know, just like 749 00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.159 with Farcry three, you wanted to make a smaller thing that was like a 750 00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:57.960 unique spin on these mechanics, you know, the same way that Blood Dragon 751 00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.239 was. It's weird, you know, eighties future nonsense. Yeah, like 752 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.239 you know, this is you know, crazy caveman business. But for this 753 00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:08.119 to be blown out into or not really blown out enough in some ways, 754 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:13.280 into a full priced retail product at that kind of length and that kind of 755 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.400 expectation, it just doesn't add up to me. See. I never quite 756 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:20.079 burnt out on fark right, even though you know, I agree they were 757 00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.599 very similar through three and blood Dragon four. At the end of four, 758 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:24.880 I was still so high on the series that, like, I would play 759 00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:30.039 more of that. The thing is you probably would like like a you know, 760 00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.239 a theoretical fark right five or whatever to make the same improvements over four 761 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.760 that four did over three. You know, like this also sounds like co 762 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:37.039 op, I should say, like it sounds like this thing. This sounds 763 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:42.760 like the only the only areas where this thing progresses the mechanics are in the 764 00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:46.119 areas that it was kind of dangerously like things that was heavy on all things 765 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:50.480 it was already doing well, like the crafting and stuff like that. You 766 00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.239 know, like like you like, you don't need more types of material much 767 00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:54.400 of it. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's too much of what 768 00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:58.119 you're doing. And I worry too, because my favorite stuff, and like 769 00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:00.840 fark right four is when I'm flying around in the copter and like that grenade 770 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:04.039 launcher was my favorite thing in the world, and like I love just like 771 00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.719 flying above a convoy of trucks and shooting it and see a truck blake. 772 00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:10.679 Like say with some certainty that there is no grenade launch right in this game. 773 00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:14.320 But you do have like fire bombs, Okay, that's pretty cool, 774 00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:16.920 and you do have bee bombs or what are they called, there's sting bombs 775 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:21.000 or whatever, But it's just a fucking sack of bees that you throw a 776 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:25.119 people. Okay, that's dumb, Yeah, but like a cool, a 777 00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:29.960 cool silly ass idea that I ended up almost never using. Yeah, I 778 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:31.840 just wonder though, if that's gonna translate, because like I like the big 779 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:36.159 explosive stuff and for and really fucking stuff up, and like, since obviously 780 00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:37.639 this is not gonna have explosions and stuff like that to that degree. I 781 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.719 mean, you can set stuff on fire. There are couple missions where like, 782 00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:43.599 go burn a village and it has the meter that woul show up when 783 00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.800 you were burning the pot fields shows up there, and you know, you 784 00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:51.159 get to you get to burn an outpost just through like fire bombs or just 785 00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:52.559 I mean you set your weapon on fire and then swing it at stuff and 786 00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:58.239 it sets it on fire. Prehistorics real like sounds like like kind of the 787 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:02.360 same. Sometimes you'll find people in the center of an outpost just banging on 788 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:07.480 a drum and you're going, yeah, did you redo? Did you redo? 789 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:10.800 Yes? Did you redo? Is is the is the actual right answer? 790 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.480 It seems like if you're remotely worried about burning out and far cary as 791 00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.480 I have been coming out of four like if it would be, it would 792 00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.199 potentially be a bad idea to play this. I feel like, if you 793 00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:25.639 know, if you've played the three previous bar Cry games, like this one 794 00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.599 doesn't necessarily do enough to really, you know, make you want to get 795 00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:35.519 with it, And if you haven't played those games, you should play those 796 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:38.599 games instead of this. They actually I think the sale just ended as of 797 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.960 like the day that this recording is going out, But there was a bundle 798 00:47:43.039 --> 00:47:47.159 on PSN that I noticed over the weekend. There was twenty bucks for Farcry 799 00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:53.599 four and Zombie the Zombie Geez. That's ten dollars. Far Cry four is 800 00:47:55.039 --> 00:48:00.679 an infinite number of betters than Farcry Primal here Zombies all right too. But 801 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:04.519 I like that game on with you. I haven't played the I haven't played 802 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.960 that before. Four is an excellent game though, Yeah, crucially with like 803 00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.239 a really good story that made me want to keep exploring the world and finding 804 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:14.320 stuff in it and enjoyed it, you know. And yeah, so the 805 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:20.280 Primal is not without it's it's positive side, you know. But and I 806 00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.480 figure, as much as I like the other ones, if it's fifteen hours 807 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.519 and it's more far Cry, like, I'm gonna do it. It sounds 808 00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:28.599 pretty cool. Like I'm gonna say, like to keep in mind that you're 809 00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.239 doing it for a price of zero dollars. This is true. Oh yeah, 810 00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:35.320 you're in the sixty dollars thing. Yeah, if you know, it's 811 00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:38.840 a great thing to remember. Yeah, you know, like think about going 812 00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:44.559 out and spending a full retail price on on this thing. Yeah, even 813 00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:46.960 in your specific case, I think that's is maybe not a but again, 814 00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:51.599 yeah, even even setting the cost of entry aside, Like just the amount 815 00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.159 of stuff crammed in there seems overwhelming. It's well, the thing is is 816 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:58.239 it's crammed full of stuff, but that stuff's not the stuff you want out 817 00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:00.800 of another far cry again, you know, it's that's what I mean. 818 00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:01.639 It's it's too much of it. Yeah, it's like, you know, 819 00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:05.639 like I said, I was about thirty five percent complete, So like, 820 00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:07.920 what, maybe seventy percent of that game is busy work. Sixty percent of 821 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.400 that game is busy work. Even some of the main missions felt like a 822 00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.360 little more than Yeah, the mission I watched you do was basically taking an 823 00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:21.079 outpost yeah and hitting square on some stuff. Yeah. There there are you 824 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:23.039 know, multiple missions that are like that that are part of and then there's 825 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:27.400 like fourteen main missions in the game, but it's not like some big long 826 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.480 thing. So yeah, if they had tightened up a lot of this instead 827 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.119 of like expanding on this stuff, if they had made a tighter, more 828 00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:38.239 focused experience, like something it's similar in theory to Blood Dragon, if not 829 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:44.159 an execution, I think that that Primal would be a better game that way, 830 00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:47.079 that would serve this idea better. Yeah, and it's really weird. 831 00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:50.800 I want, like you have to wonder, like where the did a team 832 00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:52.880 set out to make another Blood Dragon and then go like, hey, we 833 00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:57.480 need another disc based product for this quarter. You guys should really like I 834 00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:00.960 wonder if there's some story behind the development, because like it just seems out 835 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:06.320 of balance. It's very out of sync with it's itself, is there and 836 00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:09.480 it's no fun shway, the Yet and the Yang are out in far cry 837 00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:13.880 Primal. Is there anything holding you back from just mainlining the story? You 838 00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.119 say there's thirteen or fourteen missions, Like, is it you have to get 839 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:20.519 this many whatever bolt of things, so you could just you can more or 840 00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:22.519 less just do it. I wonder how long it would take to just do 841 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:24.679 that. I mean because it sounds like you did a decent amount of other 842 00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:28.159 stuff, which I really think some of that side stuff is the most fun 843 00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.000 stuff in Far Cry. So maybe that's a bad idea. Yeah, yeah, 844 00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:34.159 I think that side stuff's not great. You know, I ended up 845 00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:37.039 taking a lot of outposts, you know, and then there are also bonfires, 846 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.880 which are like outposts but way smaller. Uh Like, here's a bond, 847 00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:44.199 here's a stack of wood and three guys around it. Kill them, 848 00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:46.519 spark up the wood, and then here's another fast travel point for you. 849 00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:52.639 Uh So it's like they added outposts on top of outposts, you know. 850 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:55.360 And you know, the outpost stuff I think is not like it's interesting because 851 00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:59.239 you know, you don't have a sniper rifle. The range is much tighter 852 00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:05.039 than it is in previous Far Cry. But I don't know. The outpost 853 00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.400 taking didn't move me. You know, it has all the same stuff, 854 00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:09.840 like instead of alarm boxes, there are horns laying around that you know, 855 00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.760 you can shoot or you can you know, throw a spear out to break 856 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:15.079 from a distance, or walk up and hold down the button to you know, 857 00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.119 disarm them like it was an alarm, right, and you can do 858 00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:20.639 the stealth approach to like these whole outposts. Yeah, and you get the 859 00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:22.280 double XP for you know, not setting off any alarms and all the other 860 00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:24.639 stuff. And they'll call in more guys if they can blow the horn. 861 00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:28.280 And there are guys that just have horns, you know, so you got 862 00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.199 to get those guys too. And some of them have masks that make you 863 00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:34.480 know, their helmets to prevent you know, headshots. Right, it seems 864 00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.239 like there was an analog for just about everything from the game. Yeah, 865 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:39.960 same, same little icons floating over their heads and everything. Yes, there's 866 00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.800 there's like that. That That alone, right there was enough to make me 867 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:45.480 look at this and go, like, you know what, I want to 868 00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:49.800 be excited the next time they announced a proper numbered new far Cry. Yeah, 869 00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.360 and that makes it seem kind of perilous to also play this one a 870 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.480 year and change after the last one came out. I yes, I guess 871 00:51:55.480 --> 00:52:00.679 I would agree with you there, Like it just feels absolutely option well where 872 00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:04.360 I felt that the previous three games were some of the best games that were 873 00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:07.519 out in their respective years, but Blood dragon less, so I didn't enjoy 874 00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:08.719 that as much as some other people did. But for a little diversion. 875 00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:10.599 I think it. Yeah, for a little version, I think it was 876 00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:13.719 was really good. Yeah, and it was different enough, even if like 877 00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:15.880 the humor didn't land for everyone, you know, which you didn't really do 878 00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:20.079 much for me. It played differently and it also had an amazing look to 879 00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.519 it. Yes, they did something esthetically really interesting, So I really did 880 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.480 like that aspect of it for sure, where this kind of just looks like 881 00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:30.360 four with less machinery. Yeah, I mean those Farkry three and fry Are 882 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:34.840 four are some of my favorite games of the past few years, and this 883 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.880 one is most definitely not all right there, you haven't you know, it's 884 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:45.159 about as definitive as you're get on that one, Drew. I understand you've 885 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.679 brought something to show the class. That's right. Let me throw some words 886 00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:51.639 at you. Did you Did you bring enough to share? Uh? In 887 00:52:51.679 --> 00:53:00.239 fact, yes, because I played Warhammer. Huh. Forty thousand Space Marine? 888 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:06.760 No, there are space marines involved, Death Watch okay, one word, 889 00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:13.039 Tyrannid invasion Okay, there like dessert rag yeah right, listen up, 890 00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.000 giant space bugs. Yeah, okay, I'm from Buenos Aires and I say 891 00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:21.360 kill them all. Well you can on iOS, the only way to be 892 00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:25.039 sure. And on Steam. Oh, the Steam versions like twenty five bucks. 893 00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:28.239 I don't know much about that. When I was playing the iOS one, 894 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.880 yeah, I got full free because it's the app of the leak. 895 00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.920 You just had me download that. Yeah during the break? What is that? 896 00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:38.280 What am I currently? Like? Oh? Really? Which is great 897 00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:43.719 because x Com didn't come out anywhere else but the PC. Yeah, so 898 00:53:44.079 --> 00:53:45.719 full on turd based rategy then. Yeah, it was a big grid. 899 00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:49.119 Okay, you move your guys, you got action points? All right, 900 00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.760 you gotta overwatch. I'm into all these things. There's not perma death. 901 00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:58.320 Your guys if they die lose their XP that they would have gained that round 902 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:02.239 because everybody levels up and you got year. There are card packs you can 903 00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:07.159 buy for real money. Mmm. I've not bought one. Mm but apparently 904 00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:12.599 the campaign's pretty lengthy. Does it played pretty well? Yeah, it's great. 905 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:16.760 It's it's really well designed using unreal engine, I think, and uh 906 00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.519 yeah, the like iconography is really good, Like you can tell how many 907 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:24.159 action points a guy has left, how much health. It's like really clear 908 00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:30.079 and easy to see and appears to be just a lot simpler than Xcom and 909 00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:36.320 not as punishingly difficult. I have heard that it's maybe a little boring in 910 00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:40.320 the beginning, like just a little slow learning the basics, but then like 911 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:44.280 once your guys level up, then it starts to get pretty good. It 912 00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:47.800 is effectively a complete game. It's not wrapped around free to play style design 913 00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:53.840 stuff. I have not seen much free play grossness. I believe that the 914 00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:59.400 card packs you get are like gear related. It looks like they normally charge, 915 00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:02.159 we're charge and bucks for that thing, so maybe they didn't necessarily sell 916 00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:05.239 it as a free to play thing, and it's just free right now? 917 00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:07.719 How many phones is that game downloading too? In this room? Right now? 918 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:10.199 I think just yours? You guys, don't no, no, no, 919 00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:14.159 I'll get it later. Okay. It's big, it's like a gig 920 00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:17.480 and a half, and I don't think it works on iPhone fives M, 921 00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:22.519 so okay, that's good. I download games like that on an iPad. 922 00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:28.400 I don't because the iPad is usually where I scamp on the gigs because it's 923 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:30.199 so much more expensive. Where it's like I'll do the full like two hundred 924 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:36.599 and fifty whatever gigs on the phone. Whatever the is. It was always 925 00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:39.480 on a hundred dollars separation on both usually. Okay, then maybe my justification 926 00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:43.400 was that I use my phone way more, and then I use my iPad 927 00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:47.079 mainly for streaming stuff or Google docs and stuff. iPad's got a bigger battery, 928 00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:51.280 that's why. Yeah, that's why I like play. You don't bigger 929 00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:52.960 screen. I don't. But I don't play games on the go. I 930 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:55.920 play them like in bed. You don't like on the commute or anything. 931 00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:00.519 No, Okay, I drive, so I can't. That's true, can 932 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:05.000 I can't I play games on the commute. It's nice. You should get 933 00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.280 with a mask? Uh why does that sound so familiar? Jeff mentioned it? 934 00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:12.159 It's some right, Yeah, that's why Down two of the Mask good. 935 00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:14.440 What is that game like? It's kind of like pac Man two fire 936 00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:16.719 right? Yeah? Okay, yes, maybe it's good. But you slide 937 00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:21.199 around, Yeah, it's good collecting dots high score challenge, then it's good. 938 00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:22.159 I don't. I don't play a whole lot of games while commuting, 939 00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.800 but every once in a while, yep, we moved to Drakes. Yes, 940 00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:29.480 Kingdom Rush is a good one. I actually beat World three of Crypto 941 00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:32.039 the Necrod answer on the bus this morning, which is crazy because it's fucking 942 00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:36.039 impossible to play that game on a bouncy bush. Yeah, but here we 943 00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:42.440 are, Uh, mobile games, mobile games. It's like playing video games, 944 00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:45.960 but but on new telephone but being out somewhere. Yeah, I guess 945 00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:50.239 that's how that works. Uh, what else will do? Oh? I've 946 00:56:50.320 --> 00:56:54.559 been let's get our quick weekly street Fighter check in. Oh is it working? 947 00:56:54.679 --> 00:56:59.880 It's I don't know, it's it's I I played some over the weekend. 948 00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:06.800 I got some streamed some for a little while, but most of my 949 00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:09.320 matches did not get uploaded to the server. I won some ranked matches and 950 00:57:09.320 --> 00:57:12.119 didn't get the points. If I didn't, I didn't. I did see 951 00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:14.559 at a point that I think I might have had more LT than you, 952 00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:15.880 or maybe it was on your PC account. I forget, which yeah, 953 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:22.440 I'm barely playing on the PCs, I forget. But yeah, it's uh, 954 00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:27.159 I really enjoy playing that game. I'm trying to get better at it 955 00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:32.280 by just like being a little more patient. And you know, it's like 956 00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:35.280 I'm I'm not jumping at all, and I'm just jumping in all the time, 957 00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:37.440 trying to just I'm trying to get that part down and then I'll figure 958 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:40.320 out what to do after when I don't jump, what do you do instead 959 00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:44.719 of jumping? Like like I said, when we did the quick look, 960 00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:49.440 right now, I'm just doing low sweeps, okay, just crouching roundhouse whatever 961 00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.239 again, And that's not working out. Actually that I was working out better 962 00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:55.039 than jumping in. You know what, the single most terrifying thing is any 963 00:57:55.039 --> 00:58:00.000 fighting game to me, just walking towards the opponent. Yeah, just walking 964 00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:05.519 toward them. I can't do it. I cannot force myself to just approach 965 00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:07.119 them on foot. But yeah, I mean I'm either going to jump in 966 00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:10.920 at them or I'm going to duck and block one or the other. That's 967 00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:14.880 it. Yeah, that's how I play fighting game. Is the only way 968 00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:16.199 is to play. I don't know, I don't know. It's yeah, 969 00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:20.760 it's you know, when it works, it works really well. The net 970 00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:23.840 code and stuff feels really good. I'm enjoying that aspect of it quite a 971 00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:29.400 bit. I feel like I'm starting to try to wrap my mind around being 972 00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:31.280 a better player, and I don't know, like with the game not working 973 00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:35.199 super well, I feel like the window is closing where at some point I'm 974 00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:37.159 just gonna get so fed up with how long it takes to get into matches 975 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:42.320 sometimes or you know, like mean winning matches and not getting the points for 976 00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:47.960 it. Like it's, yeah, I wonder how long long I'll stick with 977 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:52.119 it. But the flip side of this crazy update schedule they've got is that 978 00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:55.920 those will probably bring people back who have gotten frustrated with server instability. Just 979 00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:59.480 don't think my feature, and then the service can be on stable. All 980 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:02.239 over alls come back. Everybody's going to come back. But yeah, so 981 00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:06.639 it's I don't know, They're they're having a four hour maintenance window on Monday 982 00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:12.280 today, I mean yesterday, sorry, right, yesterday twenty second to say 983 00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:15.400 that we already lived and completed. Yes, uh and hey maybe on the 984 00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:19.599 other end of that it'll be great, right, I don't know. Yeah, 985 00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.000 that stuff's frustrating, but it's a yeah, it's it's been cool, 986 00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:27.000 and I spent a bunch of time this weekend actually kind of setting up a 987 00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:30.559 home office. It's it's it's pretty much operational now. It's not pretty, 988 00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:34.039 but it's a TV with a PlayStation four hooked up to it. Do you 989 00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:36.599 have many fridge? No? No, I don't. I don't. I 990 00:59:36.599 --> 00:59:38.920 don't need an office where you do work yeah, but sooda isn't there, 991 00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:42.800 uh, and then I have a fridge full of soot? Does I can 992 00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.599 just walk out there and there's all kinds of stuff out there, just like 993 00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:49.079 over the whole point of this is to like actually live in the house, 994 00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:52.199 like instead of like one or two rooms all the time, okay, like 995 00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:55.280 not living like a dorm, not living like I have roommates, like actually 996 00:59:55.280 --> 01:00:01.239 spreading, exploring and I'm exploring our spone okay, okay, yeah, yeah, 997 01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:04.639 my estate, you'd probably get like a razor scooter or something to move 998 01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:07.400 around faster. Yeah, probably probably. Maybe we're probably going to yank the 999 01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:12.320 carpets out of that place eventually. Here, that'll be it'll be a little 1000 01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:15.760 more razor scooter friendly once, once we get some maybe some hardwood or something 1001 01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:20.719 like that. I don't know. Keeping the arcade machines yeah nice, Yeah, 1002 01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.760 yeah, though I might. I don't know, Like I have that 1003 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:25.119 missile command machine that's kind of sucked up and I don't really need it because 1004 01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:29.039 it's I mean, it's playable, but it's not like I have no passion 1005 01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:32.039 for it, So I might look to get rid of that at some point, 1006 01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:38.960 I'm not sure. And that smash TV machine still does not work, 1007 01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:43.360 right, I need to send emails. This is it's it's all my fault. 1008 01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:46.039 Things could could have been different, but it does not work right now 1009 01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:51.440 anyway. So yeah, I've been setting that up and now like I so 1010 01:00:51.559 --> 01:00:54.440 I went and hooked up the HDMI splitter and the Elgatto and all this stuff. 1011 01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:57.920 So that's all hooked up, the consoles hooked up to the PC kind 1012 01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:00.199 of permanently, like it's all in one room. It's all you know, 1013 01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:02.639 no cables running all over the place. The only problem is now my cable 1014 01:01:02.679 --> 01:01:07.159 modem goes into the master bedroom, but I've moved the router into this office 1015 01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.639 room, so now I've got ethernet running up the hallway. Yeah, so 1016 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:15.039 I'm in a similar situation. Yeah, so mounted mine around the baseboard. 1017 01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:17.920 Yeah that's I can actually come to the cable under the base but it has 1018 01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:22.480 to run across the whole way to a point where leaving the master bedroom you 1019 01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.159 are now going to cross that cable and potentially trip. So I was thinking 1020 01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:27.960 about it, like should tape it down? Like I just don't. I'm 1021 01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:31.360 I'm actually super bad with cable management, Like all my cables are like as 1022 01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:34.800 I'm setting this stuff up, I'm realizing that all the cables that I just 1023 01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:37.599 already have are like six inches too short to do what I need to do. 1024 01:01:38.519 --> 01:01:43.639 So cables start shitty. They're terrible. I hate cables. I am 1025 01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:45.880 with you, cable management. It's a giant albatross around the neck and I, 1026 01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.519 you know, I and I want to see them. Of course, 1027 01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:51.400 the Ethernet cable I bought to run from one room to the other is like 1028 01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:53.840 about probably about ten feet too long. So now I've got that coiled up 1029 01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:59.079 and it's just, yeah, it's unsightly. It's a hassle. So eventually 1030 01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:01.280 I'm gonna have to get out of the house and move the cable that the 1031 01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:04.559 cable motan goes do push it up into this other room, and then everything 1032 01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:08.599 will be fine on that front. It's a process. It's a process. 1033 01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:13.800 I have relatively simple tastes and dreams. All I ever really wanted out of 1034 01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:17.119 life is to live in a house with wired either neet and like HDMI drops 1035 01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:21.280 in every room. That's kind of it. But when HDMI goes away, 1036 01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.079 what if you wired what it? Yeah, oh you mean hd based t 1037 01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:31.000 that's supposed to happen like five years ago. Where did that go? I 1038 01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:34.519 don't know. That would make my job a lot easier. Video video over 1039 01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:36.679 either neet was supposed to be a thing and it didn't happen. Yeah, 1040 01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:38.119 I don't know why. Uh. And then you know what if you wired 1041 01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:40.920 your walls with CAT five and then realize you needed a CAT six, We 1042 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:45.599 just do a CAT CAT six right up front? Yeah, I mean now, 1043 01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:47.039 yeah, you would definitely do CAT six. But what if you did 1044 01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:52.159 it when you first had the idea. I'm saying, like, putting wiring 1045 01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:55.800 in your wall that it will be obsolete seems terrible. I've got phone jacks 1046 01:02:55.800 --> 01:03:00.840 in most of my room. Fuck that any of them being used. Yes, 1047 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:06.000 I do have a landline, okay, in case of emergencies or emergency 1048 01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:08.760 pizza. Okay. I don't know, like I shouldn't have it. It's 1049 01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:12.719 forty dollars a month that I'm spending for no good reason. When was the 1050 01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:17.639 last time you used it? I don't know. You should cancel that. 1051 01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:23.159 It's the phone number I've had since I was thirteen, so it's a nostalgia 1052 01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:27.840 forty dollars. My parents are My parents are are faced with the exact same 1053 01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:30.719 quandary right now, having a thirty year old phone number, yeah, and 1054 01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.039 not knowing what to do with it. Yeah, Like I I've had that 1055 01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:36.480 phone number since I was in junior high when I first got my phone, 1056 01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:38.000 and I moved away for a while, my parents kept the phone because my 1057 01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:40.719 mom was using as a modem line or something like that. Like it feels 1058 01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:44.039 wrong not to have that phone number anymore somehow. Yeah, And when I 1059 01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:46.559 moved back to town, I'm like, I got the phone number from them, 1060 01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:54.519 and yeah, but also like now I've had my cell number for a 1061 01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:58.159 really long time too, and I don't want to change that, right. 1062 01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:00.840 Otherwise I would just take that number. Though that number has been given out 1063 01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:05.840 by my hoodlum friends and anyone that knows it. The home one, yeah, 1064 01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:09.880 as to telemarketers, and it's on a zillion list, So it just 1065 01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:13.639 rings off the hook with bullshit. So I wouldn't want to port it to 1066 01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:15.639 anything because then all that bullshit would come along with it. Wait, so 1067 01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:18.639 it's hooked up and your phone is actively ringing all the time, I have 1068 01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:21.159 the ringer turned off. Okay. I was gonna say, you're paying forty 1069 01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:25.320 dollars a month to get like telemarketing cults, yeah, and nostalgia. But 1070 01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:27.280 I can look up the phone numbers and go like, oh, that's who 1071 01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.280 that scumbag was. Okay, you know that's fun sometimes look at these eight 1072 01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:33.360 hundred numbers that are calling me all the time. Yeah, I should probably 1073 01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:38.960 cancel it. But it's I gave that phone number out on television when I 1074 01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:42.440 was in high school when I had a public access show. You know, 1075 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:44.760 that was the listener line. You know, Like, I've had that phone 1076 01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:48.840 number for fucking ever. So I'm like weirdly attached to it. But at 1077 01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:51.039 the same time, there's zero reason to keep it. There's some way to 1078 01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:54.800 retire it, like a Jersey you could hang somewhere. I wish you could, 1079 01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:57.159 you know, like no one else could. Yeah, if I could, 1080 01:04:57.159 --> 01:04:58.880 like if I could like park it and say, hey, I don't 1081 01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:00.880 want to pay you for phone service, but how much do I have to 1082 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:02.480 pay you to keep you from giving this number out to anyone? So I 1083 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:05.039 was actually thinking like, maybe there's a way. Yeah, I guess that's 1084 01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:11.480 that. Yes, the actual answer is apparently forty dollars a month. I 1085 01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:13.440 was trying to think, like, Okay, maybe I could go through the 1086 01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:17.480 process of so I read someone you can't port it directly to a Google Voice 1087 01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:24.920 number, but you can port a cell number to Google Voice. So if 1088 01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:28.599 I can take this landline, port it to a burner and then port the 1089 01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:33.159 burner number to Google Voice, oh wow, I can keep that number digitally 1090 01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:36.920 for way less than forty dollars a month. And you know, and like, 1091 01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:40.880 the last thing I was holding out on is is I actually get really 1092 01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:45.719 shitty cell coverage in the house, and sometimes phone calls to that phone are 1093 01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:50.079 not great. But the iOS beta, the nine point three beta that they're 1094 01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:57.000 running that I'm running, finally added Wi Fi calling for Verizon, So now 1095 01:05:57.039 --> 01:06:00.960 I can do that crystal clear. Fuck everything, Fuck everything? Wait what 1096 01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:04.960 is that Wi Fi calling? If your cell signal is weak in certain areas, 1097 01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:10.639 it will handle the call over the internet. Whoa, that's cool. 1098 01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:14.760 Yeah, and now all the carriers do have it. Wow. Verizon I 1099 01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:18.119 think was the last holdouts for a long time. That's that's the type of 1100 01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:21.119 thing we had to use that m cell for the old Whiskey office exactly. 1101 01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:27.480 Now you don't need them cells. That's an amazing Uh. The only one 1102 01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:30.239 thing it does do is is like any voipe solution. It doesn't transmit like 1103 01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.199 proper location information for nine one one, So when you turn it on, 1104 01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:36.719 it says tell us where you are in case of an emergency, and then 1105 01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:40.559 it says you should update this every time you go somewhere, and you're like, 1106 01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:44.280 fucking no. So if I'm anywhere other than home and have to call 1107 01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:45.679 nine one one, well whatever, I'm sure they're used to it. I'm 1108 01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:48.639 sure they're used to it. They'll figure it. They'll figure it out that 1109 01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:53.760 that's a tech problem that has to be solved. The the like nine one 1110 01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:56.920 one stuff. Have you used the what's it called night shift on that data 1111 01:06:57.159 --> 01:06:59.360 sending? Good? Yeah, it's fine, it's okay. It's like Flux 1112 01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:01.119 work says I've ties it's like Flux, but not Flux, which the Flux 1113 01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:03.559 people are not happy. Oh they're not. I read about that stuff. 1114 01:07:03.599 --> 01:07:09.440 They were, Yes, they seemed very displeased that Apple did not just buy 1115 01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:13.320 them to implement that as opposed to do it themselves. I didn't even think 1116 01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:15.400 it's that. I think they just wanted they had a version of Flux fora 1117 01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:20.599 iosa. That stuff. It was like install x code. They were I 1118 01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:25.039 think they were distributing a binary, then telling people to sideload it instead of 1119 01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:28.039 just putting their source out there, which is like the actual thing they're supposed 1120 01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:31.719 to do, if it is my understand anyway, Phones anyway, Phones they're 1121 01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:34.800 terrible. Yeah, they're dumb. Who cares? Stop talking to Mobile World 1122 01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:43.320 congress. Mobile World is more like it Galaxy s snooze. You know what 1123 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:48.239 I'm saying. That's right, Bam, pop shelf material here. I found 1124 01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:53.320 my fucking T mobile sidekick while I was cleaning up stuff. Destroy that thing 1125 01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:56.559 with a hammer. No, it's too good. It's the last good phone. 1126 01:07:57.039 --> 01:07:59.519 Let's get a Microsoft kin Okay, okay, yeah, just find a 1127 01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:04.000 way to get it working then. Yeah, we're not side talk on your 1128 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:08.320 iPhone. I mean didn't think so fry. I don't know how well it 1129 01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:12.239 would work. Uh Dan, can you talk about Twilight Princess yet? Uh 1130 01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:15.159 yeah? The game came out ten years ago. No, okay, I'll 1131 01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:19.960 take that as a no. I mean yeah, yeah, I can it 1132 01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:24.560 is HD. Yeah. Man, I'm having a lot of thoughts playing that 1133 01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:27.920 game. Like seven hours in, I'm definitely in for long haul. I'm 1134 01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:30.479 going to beat it again because I haven't beat it since oh six Those were 1135 01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:36.279 the days. That's what I'm struggling with is trying to remember back then. 1136 01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:41.359 I read my old review, and I seem to be very positive about it 1137 01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:44.399 back then, but now I'm trying to see it through a different lens of 1138 01:08:44.439 --> 01:08:45.720 you know, it's ten years later. Back then, it was still kind 1139 01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:49.239 of amidst all the hype and everything of the week coming out in this whether 1140 01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:51.960 or not I liked motion controls, and whether I was trying to convince myself 1141 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:56.079 I liked it, and now being so far removed from it and just playing 1142 01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:59.640 it as a Zelda game, I think, Yeah. I mean, my 1143 01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:06.359 my primary issue with Twilight Princess, My actual real thing with that game was 1144 01:09:06.600 --> 01:09:13.840 that it just, you know, like they established that formula with Acarina, 1145 01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:16.760 Yeah, you know, and by the time they came around to Twilight Princess, 1146 01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:21.079 like the formula was old. It felt like that they had just kind 1147 01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:27.600 of taken the same thing and like thought, like, well, what if 1148 01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:30.439 there's a wolf, Like like that was the idea, you know, did 1149 01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:31.279 you see that wolf? Did you see that wolf? Yeah? It was 1150 01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:36.399 like, oh you see that wolf? Damn, you know, like like 1151 01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:41.840 that was the check out that wolf. It's an amibo now yeah, yeah, 1152 01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:44.600 so like it it's you know, like it just felt like that they 1153 01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:46.279 had to come up with a hook to try to make it different, but 1154 01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.239 it was the same thing again, you know, and which I think they 1155 01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:54.239 wanted to do the same thing because so many people freaked out about Windwaker, 1156 01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:59.000 unjustly because that was all awesome. Windwaker sold just fine. Well, yeah, 1157 01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:01.880 I know, weird outcry in the backlash from Zelda fan Zelda and all 1158 01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:04.439 that shit, and people were pissed off, you remember that after the Space 1159 01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:06.359 World demo and every But I feel like when that game came out, like 1160 01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:09.119 you know, yeah, that happened a little bit, but by the time 1161 01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:12.079 Twilight Princess came around, like no one was going like I'm pissed at win 1162 01:10:12.119 --> 01:10:15.239 Waker. I feel like there's still definitely were like amongst like hardcore Zelda fans, 1163 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:17.840 all those people are not hardcore Zelda fans, right, because it's a 1164 01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:23.119 great Celtic Zelda game. Yeah I don't. I don't normally like to fucking 1165 01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:25.560 pull that type of ship. But if you don't like win Waker, you 1166 01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:28.760 don't like the listen of Zelda. Yeah, yeah, but I feel like 1167 01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:32.119 that was what Twilight Princess was was kind of this reaction to that weird outcry 1168 01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:34.800 against It's like, okay, so you didn't like the cartoon stuff, all 1169 01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:38.720 right, let's make like the darkest Zela we've made yet, and it's very 1170 01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:42.119 much gonna be like green. Here's hiro Field, Here's Epina, here's you 1171 01:10:42.159 --> 01:10:48.359 know, Gana. If some people say epona, I've always said epinaypponapa epa. 1172 01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:54.720 See if they if they had made link speak, I solve this problem. 1173 01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:56.760 I know you have felt that way and you like that. Well, 1174 01:10:56.760 --> 01:10:59.439 it wasn't even necessarily like feeling that way. It was more than like by 1175 01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:02.720 the time they got The Twilight Princess, I feel like the formula had you 1176 01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:06.560 know, they had made that game before, you know, and what they 1177 01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:09.920 were doing to it, I don't think added to it. You know, 1178 01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:14.239 they didn't make it dark enough. They the stuff they added with the Wolf 1179 01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:17.439 didn't do enough to it, and it just wasn't you know, it was 1180 01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:21.520 successful, but it was spinning its wheels. And I agree that they didn't 1181 01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:25.039 do anything like I'm not even a huge fan of the Wolf stuff, like 1182 01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:27.319 playing again now, like those parts were right, Oh, I gotta be 1183 01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:31.079 the Wolf until I get twelve. The thing in that game that is the 1184 01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.640 rest of it is like check it out. We made another Legend of Zelda 1185 01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:36.520 game, and I'm fine with I'm really fine with it. And I don't 1186 01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:40.399 know if that's just a nostalgic thing since, like, you know, the 1187 01:11:40.399 --> 01:11:42.680 first couple of Zelda game, you know, the first one and the third 1188 01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:46.239 one were my first like favorite games basically, uh, and I like just 1189 01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:49.600 coming back to that every few years, like, oh, here's this nice 1190 01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:53.439 thing that I remember, here's like the beginning of my love of video games 1191 01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:55.239 again. You know. It's like, oh, I'm gonna get the four 1192 01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:57.680 Heart Pieces, exceph It's five and Twilight Princess, which I don't like. 1193 01:11:58.359 --> 01:12:00.359 Yeah, but I mean I like that, I like getting the key, 1194 01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:01.399 I like get in the shield, I like it in THEE. But I 1195 01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:03.600 look at the progression and go like Acarine of Time, like you know, 1196 01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:08.000 invented the format, yeah, for a Legend of Zelda in three D. 1197 01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:11.239 I mean know, it built sixty four done, yeah, you know, 1198 01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:14.960 but but it built a template for that type of action adventure, action RPG 1199 01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:17.279 whatever you want to call it with polygons. Well, but yeah, but 1200 01:12:17.319 --> 01:12:21.319 in the basic format is linked to the past three yeah, but you know, 1201 01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:25.079 like that was enough of a shift, right, and the wind Waker 1202 01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:28.800 takes it in this completely different direction with all the boat stuff and its visual 1203 01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:31.199 style, like it's a it's it's a departure in a lot of ways, 1204 01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:35.159 while still kind of giving you enough of the familiar Zelda stuff. Twilight Princess 1205 01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:40.720 to me, felt like this like regression back to like the safe spot of 1206 01:12:40.760 --> 01:12:42.600 like, well, we got this wolf stuff in here, but really we 1207 01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:45.359 just kind of made another legend of Zela game and like its visual style is 1208 01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:48.479 not necessarily unique, its visual style doesn't really didn't really stand out at the 1209 01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:53.960 time, Like it felt like a timid legend of Zelda game at a time 1210 01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:57.600 when like they could have followed up The wind Waker was something that went even 1211 01:12:57.640 --> 01:13:00.520 further, not necessarily make a cartoony, but like they could have put more 1212 01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:04.000 into it. And so Twilight Princess felt like this, like, you know, 1213 01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:06.840 back to square one, back to the formula sort of thing. There 1214 01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:10.439 you go. I got an idea instead of on the water, what if 1215 01:13:10.439 --> 01:13:13.920 you're in the sky. You know, at least they tried, you know, 1216 01:13:14.279 --> 01:13:16.119 like I don't like, I don't I don't like Skywards or I'm sorry, 1217 01:13:16.119 --> 01:13:17.680 I just I just one of the weaker ones. Yeah, I just 1218 01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:19.760 don't like it. But it's still good, but it's it's weak. I 1219 01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:23.520 just I just don't like it, you know. I wish there was I 1220 01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:26.760 wish it was better. Flying around was not nearly as satisfying a sailing for 1221 01:13:26.760 --> 01:13:30.279 some reason. It was because all those little fucking rocks and planted there's nothing 1222 01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:32.800 there. You'd get like one chest with like is annoying. Yeah, whereas 1223 01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:35.960 like the Islands and wind Waker actually felt like there was something like to explore, 1224 01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:39.359 like little cave systems and stuff. So yeah, so by the time 1225 01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:44.319 Twilight Princess came along, like I think that like they had done more from 1226 01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:47.560 Akarina It's a Windwaker than they did from you know, but you forgot what's 1227 01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:51.319 in between those two. That's that's the one that was the most bold. 1228 01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:55.640 That's the far cry primal of Legend of Zelda games. You know. That's 1229 01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:58.000 that's the Blood Dragon. You know, it's it's the departure game, like 1230 01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:00.000 it, you know, whatever, if you get great like it, like 1231 01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:02.359 it's top five, top five zone, but it's not even you know, 1232 01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:05.800 it's it's it doesn't it's its own weird thing. And that's but so was. 1233 01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:10.079 I mean, wind Waker was a weird departure. Windwaker is a sequel, 1234 01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:14.960 proper like mainline legend of Zelda game. I mean, Major's Mask is 1235 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:18.560 a mainline Legendor's Mask is like Zelda Guy Den, Dude, it's not even 1236 01:14:18.560 --> 01:14:23.119 close. It's it's the same link from Makarine of Time. It's a sequel 1237 01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:28.079 to a game that when they make sequels, they make larger changes than they've 1238 01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:31.000 made, you know, like everyone considers that. But that's like, that's 1239 01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:34.920 like you're sitting there going like you're you're basically defending Final Fantasy. Tend to 1240 01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:38.479 make that exact comparison, which are you putting with Jordan in the same camp 1241 01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:42.159 as like a Four Swords Adventures or Triforce Heroes or that kind of like spinoff. 1242 01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:44.960 I mean, it's closer. Yeah, it's more robust than that, 1243 01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:48.199 but it's closer to that than no way than that sort of stuff. And 1244 01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:50.000 you can like it all you want, but it's not. It's not the 1245 01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:55.479 same thing. It's ten it's totally tend to It's Lightning Returns. It's the 1246 01:14:55.520 --> 01:15:00.239 legend of Zell the Lightning returns. But it completely changed. It turned every 1247 01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:02.159 expansion it was, it was it was supposed to be expansion would do. 1248 01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:04.239 If it was an expansion pack, it would just be like, hey, 1249 01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:08.279 here's three new dungeons. That's what an offshoot or it's a remix, Like 1250 01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:12.199 it feels like a remix, completely different. But that's what I'm saying, 1251 01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:14.239 Like with the existing tools, I mean, you know, with the exist 1252 01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:16.239 look and all that stuff, the same engine and a lot of the same 1253 01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:19.239 assets, with like some weird gameplay tweaks in it, and it's you know, 1254 01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:23.680 it's it's inventive, and they went in a weird direction, and like 1255 01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:27.960 I will honestly applaud them for that, even though I just I just don't 1256 01:15:27.960 --> 01:15:30.159 think that's a very good game. It's not for me. I'm glad that 1257 01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:33.760 you applaud the wind Waker changes though, because that was it's a huge changes. 1258 01:15:33.840 --> 01:15:36.319 One of the best games they've made, yea, even with the back 1259 01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:40.199 third being a little heavy, which they fixed at the ahde oh my god, 1260 01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:42.439 the HD one. If you haven't played wind Waker, that HD thing, 1261 01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:45.039 it fixes everything. Yeah, it's so good. So that that was 1262 01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:47.880 the thing with Twilight Princess was this feeling of just like, man, they 1263 01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:51.319 could their Nintendo this is the legend of Zelda. They could do more and 1264 01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:55.800 they weren't, and they were you know, it wasn't about like links speaking 1265 01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:59.880 like who cares really, It was more about like, there's more they could 1266 01:15:59.880 --> 01:16:02.159 be doing here, And that's actually the thing that has me really excited about 1267 01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:05.520 where they're going to go from here, like what they've been saying about the 1268 01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:11.399 next game, like because they it's not you know, because when that Twilight 1269 01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:14.119 Princess review went up, there was a bit of a then there was a 1270 01:16:14.119 --> 01:16:16.079 bit of a hubbub about it, and it was one of those things, 1271 01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:18.239 one of those times where like, you know, like I didn't necessarily talk 1272 01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:20.399 to a lot of people of publishers at the time because I was on the 1273 01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:24.159 review side pretty strictly and stuff like that, but you know, you kind 1274 01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:29.039 of hear bits and pieces occasionally back from publishers about like we think you're right, 1275 01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:32.359 all right, yeah, and you know sometimes you hear things like, 1276 01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:35.600 oh, you know, there's there's people that internally that might acknowledge like, 1277 01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:39.159 yeah, it's kind of it's kind of that, right, And that was 1278 01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:42.680 that was one of those funny cases of hearing that about that game when the 1279 01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:46.760 Internet was on fire about Yeah, okay, it's a formula that they like, 1280 01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:50.239 they could be doing more, they could be pushing. It's the legend 1281 01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:55.520 of Zelda. For Christ's sake, thirty years this week of the since the 1282 01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.920 first game came out in Japan, Like, this is one of the most 1283 01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:02.560 important franchise is for gaming, you know. And Twilight Princess, I think 1284 01:17:02.640 --> 01:17:09.680 was like a wheel spinning move that like was very much not what they had 1285 01:17:09.720 --> 01:17:12.199 been doing, even you know, even though I don't like Major's mask, 1286 01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:15.920 at least that was like something really crazy. Well, and Zelda historically has 1287 01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:18.880 been their big flagship series that they will take risks on because like I love 1288 01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:23.239 all the Mario games, but those have mostly played it safe outside of like, 1289 01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:26.359 oh hey he's got a pack's in space. Yeah, it's been jumping 1290 01:17:26.359 --> 01:17:29.760 on turtles for thirty years. You know, Zelda, they've done weird shit 1291 01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:31.880 with from from the first sequel. I mean, Zella two is completely different 1292 01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:36.880 than an amazing game. Yeah, yeah, but it's all right, I 1293 01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:41.479 mean, you know, yeah, I just but also a risk, yes, 1294 01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:43.880 you know, a big departure like, nothing about Twilight Princess felt like 1295 01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:45.439 a risk to me. It felt like, you know, it felt like 1296 01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:47.680 I said, it felt like them very much kind of circling the wagons, 1297 01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:49.680 going like, all right, guys, let's sing to the base. Yeah, 1298 01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:53.319 let's make one more of these for the new console and for the GameCube, 1299 01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:54.760 and all got pushed back, so I guess we'll put it on the 1300 01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:57.359 Wii. So, you know, here's this kind of muddy looking Wii game, 1301 01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:01.199 and and that's the the problem that I have with that game is that 1302 01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:05.600 it was a formula that had been well established and they just kind of made 1303 01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:10.600 another one of those, and the wolf stuff didn't didn't do enough. I 1304 01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:13.479 find myself in a weird spot hearing this and that I agree with pretty much 1305 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:17.279 everything you're saying. That they was spinning its wheels, and I'm not big 1306 01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:21.119 on the wolf stuff necessarily. I just I think I just like it more 1307 01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:25.600 because of that, Like, I think I'm more okay with just like this 1308 01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:29.039 is the Zelda. I like Zelda. I like that format. I'm not 1309 01:18:29.119 --> 01:18:30.359 tired of it, I don't you know. I'm I'm very excited about what 1310 01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:33.159 the next one's gonna be and where the series goes from here. But when 1311 01:18:33.159 --> 01:18:36.840 it comes down to it, even just a by the numbers, this is 1312 01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:41.600 a Zelda ass Zelda game. I love those so much and everything about it, 1313 01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:43.720 you know, the characters and the music, and you know, just 1314 01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:46.560 all the familiarity of that. I'm by no means tired of that, you 1315 01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:49.760 know. I if they remade just like a new thing in the Aquarinum mold 1316 01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:53.199 every four years, I'd play them until the day I died and probably love 1317 01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:55.279 them. I think you know that. I ended up giving it a score 1318 01:18:55.279 --> 01:18:57.239 that said it was a great game, because you know, it's like by 1319 01:18:57.680 --> 01:19:00.920 standards, by most other standards you're looking at and go like, yeah, 1320 01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:02.119 this is pretty well made, you know, on its own, on its 1321 01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:08.039 own merits, as in a vacuum. There's nothing really wrong with that game. 1322 01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:11.199 I'll say one thing though, I've really noticed that in the ten year 1323 01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:14.840 gap between the original release and now, horse control has gotten a lot better, 1324 01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:17.800 and not in this like trying to control Epin and this after playing Red 1325 01:19:17.840 --> 01:19:21.760 Dead and The Witch are games with better horse stuff. It is like Epina 1326 01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:25.840 just hits the wall and it's just full like wait for the animation for the 1327 01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:30.640 full turnaround and that that's rough. Yeah, yeah, this is a really 1328 01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:38.520 hard conversation. But have canu Wine didn't write a song called Penny's I guess 1329 01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:41.760 Evan has probably named that because the word ponies kind of in there. But 1330 01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:45.239 I've always said eppen, and by god, I'm I'm sticking with it. 1331 01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:47.359 If you want to double down on being wrong, I mean, I'm probably 1332 01:19:47.359 --> 01:19:49.199 wrong, but I'm not gonna train to way I've said it. No, 1333 01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:54.079 Okay, no, that's fine. Eight. But yeah, I'm might go 1334 01:19:54.079 --> 01:19:58.960 back to calling him Ryu while we're at it. Dall Ism, dall Ism 1335 01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:01.880 gets But yeah, I'm with you on everything. I agree with. I 1336 01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:04.479 totally see what you're saying, and then totally valid. I see why some 1337 01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:06.520 people would be like, all right, this is the same shit. Yeah, 1338 01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:09.720 but I guess I'm just not tired of the same shit yet. Hey, 1339 01:20:09.720 --> 01:20:12.680 it's okay to like something and also admitted shortcomings at the same time. 1340 01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:15.479 Yeah, yeah, fully valid and and acceptable. Yeah. I don't know 1341 01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:18.600 if you remember how things went back then, but apparently it's not yea. 1342 01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:21.840 And also they changed the wallet size and now we have bigger wallets from the 1343 01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:28.560 start with real real nice Yeah, so it's I just you know, I'm 1344 01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:31.640 kind of interested in seeing the game again because I haven't touched it since I 1345 01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:34.920 played, because I ended up playing the GameCube version as well, and this 1346 01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:39.039 is that, yeah, which I've never played the game pe one, So 1347 01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:42.960 playing it without having to do the motion control shit and the world flipping a 1348 01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:45.239 better game. It's a better game. I'm really liking it. But you 1349 01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:47.520 can also with the game pad do the gyroscope aiming of the arrow and stuff, 1350 01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:50.840 which actually works really well. Yeah no, actually no, I really 1351 01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:55.079 like that, like especially like the mini games, the target shooting stuff like 1352 01:20:55.199 --> 01:20:58.279 that works great. I love that in the three DS remix Vacherina Majora. 1353 01:20:58.399 --> 01:21:01.520 It's it's great here. So yeah, no huge overhauls that I've seen so 1354 01:21:01.560 --> 01:21:04.439 far, I've always done. I'm seven hours in and I'm not even at 1355 01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:08.720 the second dungeon yet, so I'm remembering how slow that ramp up is for 1356 01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:12.560 this one. But no, it's it's good, but it's it doesn't overhaul 1357 01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:16.720 things the way Windwaker did. I hope that what they're doing next gets away 1358 01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:19.520 from if it ends up being like, hey, we've just you know, 1359 01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:23.000 hey, it's roughly the same number of dungeons, but now it's in a 1360 01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:27.319 larger open world like that'll bet Yeah, that link between worlds. It's some 1361 01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:30.279 changes to like the magic system, and those changes were but that's a but 1362 01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:35.840 that's a you know, a weird game that's closer to a major's mask than 1363 01:21:36.920 --> 01:21:41.520 a proper legend of Zelad. I mean, the big innovation there was, 1364 01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:43.640 Hey, you can have all the items right up front and then do the 1365 01:21:43.680 --> 01:21:45.920 dungeons and whatever order you want. Yeah, but there are still like it 1366 01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:50.359 links crossbow training is what I'm saying. There's still reels like that's not like, 1367 01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:54.359 you know, that's what is that there. There's you know, there's 1368 01:21:54.359 --> 01:21:56.760 some variability in the flow of the game there, but you're still doing a 1369 01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:00.399 number of discrete dungeons one after the other on basically the same mask is linked 1370 01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:04.039 to the past again. Awesome, Yes, like it's not I wouldn't say 1371 01:22:04.039 --> 01:22:06.800 the change they make is as fundamental as what they need. It's like it's 1372 01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:13.319 the real nes remix. Yes, yeah, that's a that's a cool fucking 1373 01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:15.239 game. It is good game. I just I don't know, I just 1374 01:22:15.279 --> 01:22:19.119 I would really like to see like a grand departure from the structure of like, 1375 01:22:19.159 --> 01:22:21.600 hey, you need this mini try force pieces. You know, hey, 1376 01:22:21.840 --> 01:22:25.600 what if it was six pieces to get a heart? Fuck it? 1377 01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:29.520 No? No? Yes? Before or last before? Well, Twilight Princess 1378 01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:30.960 has five, and I don't like that. Hey, well there you go, 1379 01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:34.399 justified. So I don't. I think we're both probably excited for this 1380 01:22:34.479 --> 01:22:38.439 next one. Whatever the hell they do with it. I mean, yeah, 1381 01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:40.760 I think they could totally blow it and make an uninteresting game. I 1382 01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:44.680 think there's there's a possibility of that. But I really want to see what 1383 01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:46.239 they're doing. Yeah. Uh, and I want to see if it ends 1384 01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:48.920 up being a line straddle or if they end up putting it on NX as 1385 01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:54.960 well as bet you, I bet they do. Yeah, it worked out 1386 01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:58.039 so well for them last time. I mean, it's sold a bunch, 1387 01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:00.399 didn't it Probably, I don't know. I don't know if they go back 1388 01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:01.800 to that, well, but we will see. Yeah, but no, 1389 01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:04.279 it's not a well, it's like like who cares, Like, you know, 1390 01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:06.199 if they have another platform coming out, they might as well put it 1391 01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:11.039 on. Yeah, there's no reason not to. I want them to. 1392 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:14.079 I don't want them to do that because I want to feel good about buying 1393 01:23:14.079 --> 01:23:15.920 that. We you and I don't think I'm gonna feel good about buying that. 1394 01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:18.199 We you if I could have just played the new Zelda, I'm the 1395 01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:23.000 next console. So let me get this straight. More people are getting access 1396 01:23:23.039 --> 01:23:26.760 to a game, and that's making you angry. Not that's not necessarily what 1397 01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:31.960 we're saying, you know, tweet to me mode, you know, more 1398 01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:35.319 to the point you kind of want to feel like they made it appropriately for 1399 01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:39.319 and to the strengths of the platform they put it on. You know, 1400 01:23:39.439 --> 01:23:43.039 like like you said, like in the process of moving Twilight Princess to the 1401 01:23:43.079 --> 01:23:45.760 Wei, like you ended up with a WE game that didn't necessarily look like 1402 01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:47.600 a good game by the WI standards. True, you know, it's true. 1403 01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:50.399 And the motion controls did feel tacked on, right, right, Yeah, 1404 01:23:50.479 --> 01:23:54.760 like that like the right the waggle for the basic attack it was just 1405 01:23:54.800 --> 01:23:57.039 a bucking. Should have been a fuck. It was fancy, but that's 1406 01:23:57.039 --> 01:23:59.640 what I mean. Like they fixed that in the Year of Motion plus with 1407 01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:02.319 Sky in that transition, Like you're you're bound to lose some things when you 1408 01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:05.479 take a game that was intended for one target and moved to another. You're 1409 01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:09.239 right, yeah, you're right, uh, I mean, and I don't 1410 01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:11.439 really have a problem with the way. You you know, I think it'd 1411 01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:14.399 be interesting to see that game in both places, because that'd be like a 1412 01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:19.039 and a hell of a way to kind of kick off the NX. But 1413 01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:26.359 whatever it's, I I hope that they are making something that you know, 1414 01:24:26.479 --> 01:24:30.439 isn't just a larger version of what they've been making and really kind of take 1415 01:24:30.479 --> 01:24:34.039 it to some to a different place. Sure, I think we can all 1416 01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:38.760 get behind that. Last thing I'll mention real quick is that I've been plinking 1417 01:24:38.760 --> 01:24:43.319 away in Plants Versu Zombies Garden Warfare two. You guys saw on UPF because 1418 01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:45.119 I showed it to you. I did, Yes, you did saw that. 1419 01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:49.760 It's a real game that just seems like a vastly expanded version of the 1420 01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:57.119 first game version. I loaded it up and it played danger Zone. I 1421 01:24:57.119 --> 01:24:59.960 mean that was a trailer that they put out. It's it's in the game 1422 01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:02.000 as well. Yeah, it's over the over the kind of there's an initial 1423 01:25:02.039 --> 01:25:08.119 cinematic that not a non cover versions in the game they licensed. They licensed, 1424 01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:12.880 it's in the game, and it's in the game. Uh. You 1425 01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:15.439 know, they've added classes, it's a ton of new maps, like the 1426 01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:17.079 there's a quest system. Now, there's a you know, a big hub 1427 01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:20.119 you can go out and do stuff, and the hub seems is baffling. 1428 01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:24.560 I haven't Yeah you have a menu to have to walk around this big, 1429 01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:28.880 unwieldy thing like it, it's no one needs that. Well, but yeah, 1430 01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:30.479 I need to spend more time with it and figure out exactly what the 1431 01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:34.359 purpose of that thing is. Yeah, because because both factions, bases and 1432 01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:39.640 this kind of neutral like battleground in the middle are contained in that one map, 1433 01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:42.560 and I'm not sure what the benefit of that is as supposed to just 1434 01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:45.520 having a nice speedy map but or I mean men you deal with. But 1435 01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:50.159 anyway, that that's actually technically out today, so like beyond the access people 1436 01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:55.239 playing it earlier, like it'll just now start getting actually populated today. So 1437 01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:57.640 I will spend more time with that this week and we will do some stuff 1438 01:25:57.800 --> 01:26:01.640 with it. I like stuff. Stuff's good. All right, let's talk 1439 01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:05.560 about the news this week. It's it's pretty thin, uh in the world 1440 01:26:05.600 --> 01:26:10.880 of headlines other than the first one, which is kind of a big piece 1441 01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:14.880 of news. The HTC five has a price. It is seven hundred and 1442 01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:17.039 ninety nine dollars, which is a hell of a lot cheaper than I thought 1443 01:26:17.039 --> 01:26:19.600 it was going to be a lot of dollars. I mean it's a lot. 1444 01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:23.560 But is that with the whole room thing and all that. That's why 1445 01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:26.880 I like house two controllers. That's exactly why I think it's Yes, I 1446 01:26:26.880 --> 01:26:30.439 mean yeah, I mean it's it's got the basically yeah, like yeah, 1447 01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:33.560 Effectively this is coming with like room size, positional tracking, and two motion 1448 01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:39.399 controllers which the Rift, neither of which the Rift has two hundred dollars extra 1449 01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:45.840 correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't know, this headset would presumably 1450 01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:48.520 be able to do everything the Oculus can. Yeah, like that that I 1451 01:26:48.560 --> 01:26:51.640 think really remains to be seen, right, Like if there's a common software 1452 01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:55.640 platform, if if all games for one will work on the other. If 1453 01:26:55.640 --> 01:26:59.640 I keep in mind that Oculus has a publishing division and their own storefront where 1454 01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:03.680 they will be publishing games, so there's a possibility that those games may not 1455 01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:08.439 work on vibes but purely on a TEP. But I don't but I don't 1456 01:27:08.439 --> 01:27:13.560 know stuff everything. My understanding is that doing the work to make it work 1457 01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:16.159 on both headsets is not difficult, right, unless you're taking advantage of some 1458 01:27:16.199 --> 01:27:21.039 of the specific unique features of some of the stuff, because like the Vibe 1459 01:27:21.079 --> 01:27:25.560 has the camera up front that'll let you do like you could potentially be used 1460 01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:30.640 for like an AAR type scenario, right, and and that sort of stuff. 1461 01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:32.640 The room sensors may play into some of that to a certain extent. 1462 01:27:32.680 --> 01:27:35.760 The the Oculus Touch controllers won't be available at launch, so you know. 1463 01:27:35.800 --> 01:27:39.479 And also so this is Yeah, it's seven eighty nine and it's hitting in 1464 01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:43.479 Uh they're saying early April. Damn. Yeah, just which is not long. 1465 01:27:43.560 --> 01:27:45.479 Yeah, the drift it's like a month. Shit. What I find 1466 01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:50.560 kind of perplexing is that it only requires one USB two point zero port. 1467 01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:57.640 Yeah, I th things like four, doesn't it it needs like and one 1468 01:27:57.720 --> 01:28:00.279 two or something like that. Yeah, And those, how things do not 1469 01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:03.279 hook up to the computer. I think, so those are just like the 1470 01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:10.079 headset is sensing those. I wonder then if because it has that, then 1471 01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:16.880 it doesn't have to do like the way it's tracking is somehow less intensive or 1472 01:28:16.920 --> 01:28:20.319 something and doesn't have it require as much data to be crammed through it. 1473 01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:27.279 Yeah. I don't know that it is. Yeah, that that is one 1474 01:28:27.279 --> 01:28:30.079 of the more confusing is it become one of the more confusing aspects of this 1475 01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:35.279 stuff. Uh yeah, it's uh, it's been interesting seeing people react to 1476 01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:40.199 the price because people are just comparing it directly to the Oculus price and saying 1477 01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:43.560 like, oh, well, Oculus got him on price. That's a cheaper 1478 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:48.000 pacts like it's you're getting such a different Like it'd be like if the Oculus 1479 01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:53.520 packed in two of the touch controllers, right, you know, it is 1480 01:28:53.560 --> 01:28:56.560 basically what you would be getting with this Vibe packs. Although one of the 1481 01:28:56.680 --> 01:28:59.319 one of the main selling points in this thing, the positional tracking, seems 1482 01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:02.119 like it's going to be a thing not specially useful for a huge number of 1483 01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:04.880 people. Yeah, Like the amount of floor space just open, Like you 1484 01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:09.279 need a room in your house devoted to this thing to get the full right, 1485 01:29:09.560 --> 01:29:12.880 Yeah, so to do full advantage the room scale experiences, the way 1486 01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:15.359 to call them and then that that's the and it's that's been the aspect that 1487 01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:17.880 they've been pushing the most with the Vibe in terms of just like how they 1488 01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:20.399 demo it and the things they talk about. It's very much about like, 1489 01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:24.359 hey, this room. Yeah, yeah, I guess that's that is the 1490 01:29:24.359 --> 01:29:26.560 big thing. Don't get me wrong, it's super cool when it works, 1491 01:29:26.800 --> 01:29:30.840 but like it is awesome wires, so many extra variables to be in place 1492 01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:33.119 to work right, and so like I think even if I ended up with 1493 01:29:33.119 --> 01:29:38.079 a vibe like, I don't know that I would set up yeah, for 1494 01:29:38.079 --> 01:29:40.479 for I don't know if I'd set up for that situation, because it just 1495 01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:45.039 doesn't seem viable for this whole office I'm building, for example, it's not 1496 01:29:45.039 --> 01:29:46.199 big enough to do any of this stuff in Like I I could have a 1497 01:29:46.319 --> 01:29:50.079 standing VR experience and when you take a couple of steps in any direction, 1498 01:29:50.319 --> 01:29:54.319 but I can't walk around a fucking room like that job simulator thing or whatever. 1499 01:29:54.319 --> 01:29:56.840 You're just like standing and like the tiny little kids something, and any 1500 01:29:56.880 --> 01:29:59.760 seated experience obviously, you know, any kind of cockpit based thing like, 1501 01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:03.960 no problem. But yeah, wouldn't you like to have the option? Yeah, 1502 01:30:03.960 --> 01:30:06.640 I would love to have the option. Yes, absolutely be like, 1503 01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:10.880 oh, I'm gonna take this somewhere, going on to the park with my 1504 01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:13.840 VR headset. You know, I don't know what. I don't know where 1505 01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:15.239 I would go. The thing is the garage. I could take the car 1506 01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:19.119 out of the garage and fucking put up tens of barriers like a movie theater. 1507 01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:25.039 If R is going to become the going concern that it's being propped up, 1508 01:30:25.079 --> 01:30:27.640 as there will be plenty of time to have that option later, you 1509 01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:31.279 know, right, and stuff it's not going to be the going concern for 1510 01:30:31.359 --> 01:30:36.800 is a little bit, right, So it's this is all stuff that's still 1511 01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:41.479 even even after this stuff is on sale, it's still somewhat theoretic totally, 1512 01:30:41.680 --> 01:30:45.439 Like yeah, for for me, the quality that's it all starts and stops 1513 01:30:45.439 --> 01:30:48.039 with the quality the headset For me, like, sure, I want a 1514 01:30:48.359 --> 01:30:55.399 which part the display the whole experience, But yes, I mean, let's 1515 01:30:55.479 --> 01:30:58.840 let's assume the tracking is probably going to be roughly equivalent. I doubt you'll 1516 01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:00.279 be able to tell a lot of diff it's there, but like, I'm 1517 01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:03.079 sure there's some people will but like, yeah, people that are pretty far 1518 01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:06.239 down the rabbit hole already would probably know. But yeah, I in my 1519 01:31:06.279 --> 01:31:10.640 experience with I guess I haven't tried the final vibe, right, that's the 1520 01:31:10.680 --> 01:31:13.039 thing, Like I like I want a bunch of tech sites to get both 1521 01:31:13.079 --> 01:31:15.800 of them in for review and spend like an exhaustive a number of hours saying 1522 01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:18.439 Okay, this one feels better, this one's got a better headband, Like 1523 01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:23.680 this one. The optics are slightly like Sharper on this one, Like comfort 1524 01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:25.680 is going to be a big thing, you know, Like like I saw 1525 01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:28.760 I forget who a field of view is one of the big differences right between 1526 01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:31.119 them. Like I want an exhaustive breakdown of all that stuff before I would 1527 01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:33.760 even think about deciding which one to get. Yeah, I mean, honestly, 1528 01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:39.119 if I wasn't a Kickstarter backer of the Rift just to get one of 1529 01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:41.399 those things, your decisions kind of made already. Yeah, Like if if 1530 01:31:41.439 --> 01:31:44.119 they weren't sending me one, I wouldn't have either of them. But get 1531 01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:45.520 it wrong, If I could go back in time and back that Kickstarter for 1532 01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:48.760 three bucks is a nice price for that thing and get one of those things 1533 01:31:49.880 --> 01:31:53.359 d K one we barely used it, I would do it. Like I'd 1534 01:31:53.359 --> 01:31:56.319 still feel like that was worthwhile and I just wanted one of those so we 1535 01:31:56.319 --> 01:32:00.159 could cover that stuff, Like hey, yeah, sure, yeah, it's 1536 01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:04.000 there's just so much left to even knowing the prices and what the base package 1537 01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:08.239 is going to be, There's so much left to determine. Are there any 1538 01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:11.960 release dates set for like notable game the Drift is launched, day Job Simulator 1539 01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:17.720 were packed in with the Vibe along with contraption factories. That's called Contraption Maker. 1540 01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:20.359 Oh that's the thing that they demoed were yeah, okay, you were 1541 01:32:20.359 --> 01:32:23.560 having trouble, that was the thing. It was broken when Yeah, yeah, 1542 01:32:23.800 --> 01:32:26.720 awesome. Yeah, they're there are a handful of games that are starting 1543 01:32:26.760 --> 01:32:29.079 to get to get have their dates be firmed up. But yeah, a 1544 01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:31.720 Drift is launched day on Oculus. Drift sounds really cool, but like you 1545 01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:34.359 know, guarantee you can still have a good experience with that game on a 1546 01:32:34.399 --> 01:32:41.359 big TV. I mean, well, the you know, it seems like 1547 01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:43.560 the hook of that thing is going to be it's it's you know, it's 1548 01:32:43.560 --> 01:32:45.399 a personal story, it's a right, you know, like that aspect of 1549 01:32:45.439 --> 01:32:47.840 it seems like that that that's the reason I want to play a Drift. 1550 01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:53.800 It's it's not necessarily that it's in vr R. That that's a fun that'll 1551 01:32:53.840 --> 01:32:57.199 probably a fun, cool way to also play it. But do you say 1552 01:32:57.279 --> 01:33:00.079 job simulator is built in I mean it's packed in with the you know, 1553 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:04.039 that's a really good pack end. Yeah, like that's that's again of the 1554 01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:11.840 sports that shows off the hardware. Yeah yeah, yeah, so that's yeah, 1555 01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:15.680 And now I just wonder when the touch controllers will hit for Oculus and 1556 01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:19.399 what price they will be if this two hundred dollars difference is if that's just 1557 01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:23.039 like hey, our touch controllers or a hundred bucks pop. You need to 1558 01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:29.199 them done matched, yea or or what. But in some ways you have 1559 01:33:29.239 --> 01:33:32.680 to wonder if this makes Oculus look better by pushing off the touch right, 1560 01:33:33.239 --> 01:33:36.239 and just so that just so people who aren't in the know on any of 1561 01:33:36.279 --> 01:33:39.840 this stuff look at the prices and go like, oh, yeah, but 1562 01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:42.399 price price is fucking huge, you know, like it, but it at 1563 01:33:42.399 --> 01:33:45.479 the same point, Yeah, difference, but that's at the same time, 1564 01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:48.199 like it's hard. It's hard to imagine. Yeah, it's hard to imagine 1565 01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:53.560 anyone waltzing into the VR space and it's like what's the cheaper one and buying 1566 01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:58.159 whatever it is or actually, I mean doing any investigation to realize that there's 1567 01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:01.159 a difference in what you're doing. Antic video card too, right, yeah, 1568 01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:03.960 yeah, man, if anything. Yeah, like even Oculus is positioning 1569 01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:08.640 itself as a premium product with the like nice carrying case it comes in and 1570 01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:12.840 all that stuff, like you know, free Xbox one control. Yeah, 1571 01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:15.319 like if you want your free yeah, if you want, if you want 1572 01:34:15.399 --> 01:34:17.319 your like entry level, lower cost of VR solution, it's going to be 1573 01:34:17.399 --> 01:34:21.039 the Morpheus, right, I don't know, it'll be gre VR. I 1574 01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:26.840 mean yeah, but that only works with like two kinds of phones right now. 1575 01:34:27.039 --> 01:34:30.720 Okay, Right, So that's the other thing is is I guess I 1576 01:34:30.760 --> 01:34:35.359 saw some news saying that along with this new this new galaxy, like if 1577 01:34:35.359 --> 01:34:39.720 you pre order their phone, they're throwing in a gear VR. Weird. 1578 01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:43.920 Wow, that's not a bad deal. Yeah, I wouldn't mind having something 1579 01:34:43.960 --> 01:34:45.920 like that if I was already in that ecosystem, you know, Yeah, 1580 01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:49.000 could be cool to have. Yeah, part of me still wishes that Apple 1581 01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:51.239 would do something similar, just because, like, like I said, I 1582 01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:54.680 used the gear V already three last year and was like kind of impressed with 1583 01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:57.279 it. Yeah, yeah for what it is. So that so that's the 1584 01:34:57.319 --> 01:34:59.920 sort of thing that can start to cover the low end. It's it's weird 1585 01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:04.159 because you wouldn't necessarily like think of, like I'm getting a phone specifically to 1586 01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:06.760 do this stuff, but it's also my phone, Like that's that's a it's 1587 01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:12.000 a I don't know. Wrapping my mind around that is actually harder than it 1588 01:35:12.039 --> 01:35:15.439 should be. The phone, and phone also has the huge key advantage of 1589 01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:17.119 not being tethered in anything. Yeah. Yeah, that's going to spin a 1590 01:35:17.159 --> 01:35:20.760 full circle wearing that thing. And and then yeah, I am totally not 1591 01:35:20.960 --> 01:35:25.760 writing off like mobile VR at all yet as a as a factor. Yeah, 1592 01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:30.720 but then also yeah, PlayStation VR, and I don't know what that 1593 01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:32.039 thing I'll be priced? Who knows. I'm give two ninety nine to three 1594 01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:33.520 ninety nine. It's got to be one of those. I mean, they 1595 01:35:33.560 --> 01:35:36.600 straight up said it will be the cost of a console. Have they given 1596 01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:40.720 any kind of general timeframe like it is this year? Right? I had 1597 01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:44.159 said first half, like first half the last thing they said, so basically 1598 01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:46.720 everything's gonna be out by the summer, right if they hit their first half 1599 01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:51.720 date? Yeah? Yeah, yes, uh, and we don't really Starbreez 1600 01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:57.319 is right that thing I have no idea? Yeah? Oh shit, yeah 1601 01:35:57.319 --> 01:36:00.560 that Walking Dead thing? Is that Starbreees? No, yes, they bought 1602 01:36:00.600 --> 01:36:03.520 the rights making that thing over kills the Walking Dead VR or whatever. Yeah. 1603 01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:10.960 Yeah, And then what isn't there like the open source the osvrs. 1604 01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:14.600 And then also another headset I hadn't even heard about that. Yeah, is 1605 01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:18.439 that like a roll your own or something and not quite I don't it's yeah 1606 01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:24.119 there that'll that could be be potentially very messy as the stuff goes on, 1607 01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:29.039 you just hopefully won't blow up into a full on format war U. Yeah. 1608 01:36:29.159 --> 01:36:30.880 I mean, like even philosophically, people like Palm er Lucky You've been 1609 01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:33.399 out there saying like, you know, we don't we don't see our competition 1610 01:36:33.520 --> 01:36:38.359 as the competition. It's like the making the argument to the public is the 1611 01:36:38.439 --> 01:36:41.319 thing that we're actually fighting against, you know, like they can have those 1612 01:36:41.520 --> 01:36:45.039 larger fights later. That's they've convinced people that VR is worth owning. Yeah, 1613 01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:46.760 it's it's all in their best interest to make it as friendly as possible. 1614 01:36:46.800 --> 01:36:49.000 But yeah, I want to say it was norm from tested I saw 1615 01:36:49.119 --> 01:36:53.920 talking on Twitter this morning about like feeling like the Rift was maybe a little 1616 01:36:53.960 --> 01:36:58.159 more comfortable than the Vibe or something like that might be uh, misattributing that 1617 01:36:58.279 --> 01:37:01.399 quote, but like it raises a lot of factors that you don't think about 1618 01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:04.199 off the cuff, you know, like you just look at the feature list 1619 01:37:04.239 --> 01:37:06.880 of like, well, this thing has two controllers and positional for extra two 1620 01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:09.920 hundred dollars, so that's probably a better deal. But then like, what 1621 01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:14.239 if two weeks in it turns out that like everybody thinks the vibe is like 1622 01:37:14.359 --> 01:37:17.640 kind of uncomfortable or like over the rift, it's the drifted, you know 1623 01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:23.039 whatever, who knows what's kind of in. Yeah, like we will see 1624 01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:26.399 once these things are actually in people's hands, which one actually rises. It's 1625 01:37:26.479 --> 01:37:30.960 crazy how close we are, and I'm really excited to see how it goes. 1626 01:37:30.439 --> 01:37:33.279 Like, regardless of how it goes, so, I'm really excited to 1627 01:37:33.279 --> 01:37:36.039 see how go. I don't know how it's going to go. It's crazy 1628 01:37:36.119 --> 01:37:40.479 to think that we're sitting here talking about this stuff, you know, as 1629 01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:43.640 if it's like a done deal, right, and you know, like the 1630 01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:46.680 the notion that this stuff like works and that you know, it's if I 1631 01:37:46.760 --> 01:37:48.960 hadn't tried it, I'd be sitting there going like this is all bullshit. 1632 01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:51.199 They're gonna you know, it's like no, no, this is actually this 1633 01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:55.000 stuff all works. Now. Have they said anything about their marketing as far 1634 01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:57.800 as getting chaos up or how they're going to present us to people. I 1635 01:37:57.800 --> 01:38:00.439 mean, they're Prey're gonna be pre sold out for some time. You know, 1636 01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:02.600 they're gonna open up pre orders. I want to say on the twenty 1637 01:38:02.720 --> 01:38:08.279 ninth. Is that what this story was? Let's see, and then you 1638 01:38:08.319 --> 01:38:10.880 know they'll start shipping in early April. But you know it's not like I 1639 01:38:10.920 --> 01:38:13.399 don't think everyone who pre orders one will get one day one. That's the 1640 01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:16.720 rift was similar in the you know, as people started to place pre orders, 1641 01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:19.279 it started to you know, your ship day started getting pushed out. 1642 01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:23.760 Yeah, yeah, twenty ninth and five pre orders Leap Day, Leap Day, 1643 01:38:23.920 --> 01:38:28.159 yep, Magic Leap Day. Magic Leap is gonna come out that day 1644 01:38:28.279 --> 01:38:31.800 and just say fuck it, our ship is out. That would be awesome. 1645 01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:35.079 I'm gonna stick with the Leapster. Thank you a good call. Yeah 1646 01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:38.880 yeah, cast my lot. Just strap a leap Star to your face. 1647 01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:45.239 It'll be fine. Hey hey, hi, remember one the other side Entertainment 1648 01:38:45.319 --> 01:38:47.199 bought the Rice system Shock and announced they would make a system Shock three. 1649 01:38:47.479 --> 01:38:50.399 Oh yeah, yeah, okay, I guess who's now working on System Shock 1650 01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:57.680 three. Warren Spector, Warren, Warren the Specter. Oh, Warren Spector, 1651 01:38:57.800 --> 01:39:03.039 Warren Specter, not that push one. Yeah, but yeah that's cool. 1652 01:39:03.399 --> 01:39:08.720 Okay that flew away over my head. Yeah he's yeah, that's you 1653 01:39:08.760 --> 01:39:11.800 know, they're they're doing Underworld Ascendant, which is the ultimate underworld kind of 1654 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:16.720 spirit dam System Shock three, which is the actual system Shock successor starring Mickey 1655 01:39:16.760 --> 01:39:19.760 Mouse. Yeah, but you know, yeah, he was around for all 1656 01:39:19.840 --> 01:39:24.560 that stuff in one capacity or another. Equ This says he was a producer 1657 01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:29.359 on the original system Shock. Yeah, but also he made DSX, you 1658 01:39:29.439 --> 01:39:31.439 know, like he has been steeped in that style of first pression RPG for 1659 01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:34.199 a very fucking long time. If you put his name on in the games 1660 01:39:34.840 --> 01:39:40.039 warre Inspectors, like where it actually appears in the official title syer situation, 1661 01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:43.439 I don't believe that's the case. Yeah, not that I can think of 1662 01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:47.119 warre Inspectors the Epic Mickey Right, I don't think so. God right, 1663 01:39:47.199 --> 01:39:50.119 Yeah there were two of those, weren't there. Yeah. It sounds like 1664 01:39:50.239 --> 01:39:55.039 he's been doing some some teaching since uh right, ye see, since Epic 1665 01:39:55.119 --> 01:39:58.000 Mickey two came out. I would learn from War Inspector. Yeah, totally, 1666 01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:01.399 that would be interesting. But yeah, I guess there's not a whole 1667 01:40:01.439 --> 01:40:04.319 else to say about that other than I think it's super cool or you know 1668 01:40:04.399 --> 01:40:10.399 it definitely, it absolutely gives a new system Shock a pedigree, yeah that 1669 01:40:10.520 --> 01:40:13.560 it kind of had already but like that's just kind of the you know, 1670 01:40:14.319 --> 01:40:15.880 it's neat's like, all of all the names that you would want attached to 1671 01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:19.640 that thing they owned by anybody. I don't believe. So did they buy 1672 01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:21.920 the rights to system Shock? Yeah? I don't know. If you were 1673 01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:24.920 a story from a while ago, yeah, you might not have been on 1674 01:40:25.039 --> 01:40:28.239 the podcast that week. But I believe the rights were in the hands of 1675 01:40:28.279 --> 01:40:31.319 an insurance company in Michigan, which sounds like the dumbest thing you could come 1676 01:40:31.399 --> 01:40:34.199 up with to explain what happened to system shock, But apparently it was true. 1677 01:40:34.279 --> 01:40:40.960 Wow, anyway, were losing it in a poker game. Maybe they 1678 01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:44.239 just maybe they just had a copyright to the term system shock as through use 1679 01:40:44.319 --> 01:40:47.399 of like some kind of insurance policy, like oh, it's a real shock 1680 01:40:47.479 --> 01:40:53.520 to the system, and you get this insurance rates. We use this in 1681 01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:56.119 our radio ads, and apparently we own a video game now because we did 1682 01:40:56.199 --> 01:41:00.439 it before they did the video games. I don't know. Wow. He 1683 01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:03.319 mentioned Show Dan in his quote about being excited to go work on this thing. 1684 01:41:03.479 --> 01:41:06.840 I am Show Dan excited. It's just crazy. So he said, 1685 01:41:08.199 --> 01:41:11.359 yeah, basically exactly the quote I'm looking forward to sharing with players. What 1686 01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:13.760 Showdan has been up to since the last game was really yeah, I mean 1687 01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:15.760 they're their count on teaser and stuff was like show Dan's voice and stuff. 1688 01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:20.960 Really yeah, that's considering how the last game ended. That's see how that 1689 01:41:21.039 --> 01:41:27.199 works. Although I really think that you kind of can't, especially if you 1690 01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:30.159 were making a System Talk three in that era, you can definitely make that 1691 01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:32.960 move. Yeah, but now this far gone making an appeal to people that 1692 01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:35.319 liked those games. You're right, you have to. You're right, you 1693 01:41:35.399 --> 01:41:39.960 have to. The way they brought her back for two, like you know, 1694 01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:43.199 vanquished her at the end of the first one also, but the way 1695 01:41:43.239 --> 01:41:46.520 they brought her back for two was fucking incredible. Still one of the best 1696 01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:49.319 moments ever in a story based game, Like I will stand by that for 1697 01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:55.520 ever. You guys don't even know what I'm talking about. No, Yeah, 1698 01:41:55.560 --> 01:41:58.560 it's amazing, amazing. It's one of those games that I tried to 1699 01:41:58.600 --> 01:42:01.600 play, uh like, tried to go back to that I hear about. 1700 01:42:02.640 --> 01:42:05.960 I haven't even looked at like a lot of the graphical re remake like overhaul 1701 01:42:06.039 --> 01:42:08.760 type mods. I don't know if you were using any of those, like 1702 01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:13.000 even in its day, it was not a looker. Really, even by 1703 01:42:13.039 --> 01:42:15.279 the standards of nineteen ninety nine, it was not a great looking game. 1704 01:42:15.399 --> 01:42:17.000 It just felt kind of clunky. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, this is 1705 01:42:17.039 --> 01:42:21.640 what I was Oh my god, that reveal is so fucking incredible. I 1706 01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:25.119 should talk about it some other time. I would take a while to go 1707 01:42:25.239 --> 01:42:28.399 through. Right now. I only have one other story. It came out 1708 01:42:28.399 --> 01:42:33.199 of dice. Uh. It's about Bethesda. It was revealed by Todd Howard. 1709 01:42:33.279 --> 01:42:38.760 He says they are working on multiple other projects at the studio at the 1710 01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:43.279 same time that they are working on Fallout four DLC. We actually have three 1711 01:42:43.439 --> 01:42:47.399 kind of long term, longer term projects we're doing that are all dash. 1712 01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:50.880 We'll talk about them at a much future date. But they're different than anything 1713 01:42:50.920 --> 01:42:55.680 we've done before, while also being a Bethesda style game, big and crazy 1714 01:42:56.159 --> 01:43:01.840 in many ways, different than things we've done before. So Cyberpunk. They're 1715 01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:06.079 developing it now. I think they got it from the Witcher guys. Yeah, 1716 01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:09.399 I don't know. I don't know what that is like. You know, 1717 01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:14.159 their games are huge, but they also have been pretty vocal in recent 1718 01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:16.680 years about how their studio is still relatively small. Yeah, and compared to 1719 01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:19.239 the scale of their games. They're like a hundred and people in change or 1720 01:43:19.279 --> 01:43:21.600 whatever, which is like tiny for the size of their games. Yeah, 1721 01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:26.000 I would, Yeah, it'd be it'd be cool to see them get out 1722 01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:29.359 of the loop of Elder Scrolls, fall Out, Elders Scrolls fall Out right 1723 01:43:30.039 --> 01:43:35.159 especially, I mean Elder Scrolls Online probably being this other thing that's out there. 1724 01:43:35.199 --> 01:43:39.239 I wonder if that kind of pushed them away from just going right back 1725 01:43:39.279 --> 01:43:42.319 into another Elder Scrolls influenced their decision making, although you know, they could 1726 01:43:42.319 --> 01:43:45.720 be spending up on another Elder Scrolls as speak. Yeah, maybe the same 1727 01:43:45.760 --> 01:43:47.960 time, and so other stuff is going on. Who knows what that stuff. 1728 01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:51.119 He also mentioned that I forgot that they have a studio in Montreal now 1729 01:43:51.920 --> 01:43:57.000 which is part of the Festa Game Studios, which this says is just gonna 1730 01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:00.640 be helping out on mobile projects like Fallout Shelter and the Elder Scrolls card game 1731 01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:08.319 that they're working on Scrolls. Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, some potentially 1732 01:44:08.399 --> 01:44:12.279 some big interesting things coming from Bethesda. But who can say Dice is not 1733 01:44:12.359 --> 01:44:15.279 really a place to make big announcements. Yeah, no, you just get 1734 01:44:15.319 --> 01:44:18.920 a little take your public announcements at Dice. You make the deals that lead 1735 01:44:19.000 --> 01:44:23.279 to the big public announcements later, right, Dice. You get some little 1736 01:44:23.279 --> 01:44:26.880 tidbits here and there out of interviews, but that's about it. Pretty quiet 1737 01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:30.439 week for news overall, but not for emails. I'm gonna read some emails. 1738 01:44:30.600 --> 01:44:32.079 Okay, it was a slog, but I managed to get some emails 1739 01:44:32.119 --> 01:44:36.159 together. Okay, Yeah, it's your favorite part of the show. I 1740 01:44:36.279 --> 01:44:41.359 like tumblers. M Well, any emails. Will talk about that later. 1741 01:44:42.359 --> 01:44:46.079 Stephen in Edinburgh has a burning question the red thing on Yoshi's back. Is 1742 01:44:46.159 --> 01:44:49.880 it a saddle or shell? Shell? I shamelessly bought the Mega Yarn Yoshi 1743 01:44:49.920 --> 01:44:54.039 amibo and placed it on my desk in my office, sparking much debate about 1744 01:44:54.079 --> 01:44:57.720 what exactly that thing is. It's convex with a white trim, but seems 1745 01:44:57.760 --> 01:45:00.319 to serve no purpose. If it's a shell, it's a removable shell. 1746 01:45:01.800 --> 01:45:05.600 I think it's a saddle. I'd have to look at. You can sit 1747 01:45:05.680 --> 01:45:10.159 on a show, doesn't have to be a saddle. Yeah, Mario was 1748 01:45:10.199 --> 01:45:12.159 thick overalls. It's not gonna hurt him. He can sit on a shell. 1749 01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:15.800 I guess, yeah, that's gotten padding. Yeah, yeah, it's 1750 01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:24.159 a shell. Jeff, I don't care damn it. How many dinosaurs of 1751 01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:27.760 that size? I have shells? None? None. I'd have to consult 1752 01:45:27.800 --> 01:45:30.239 my amibos, but I'm pretty sure it's a shell. I think I've always 1753 01:45:30.239 --> 01:45:33.279 assumed it was a saddle. I thought it was a saddle. I mean 1754 01:45:33.479 --> 01:45:39.279 Super Mario straps and stuff, right, Super Mario World, which is the 1755 01:45:39.359 --> 01:45:46.880 first and still canonical, Yeah, Yoshi design anyway, a picture? All 1756 01:45:46.960 --> 01:45:49.800 right, Well, you work on that. Okay, here's an email from 1757 01:45:49.840 --> 01:45:57.199 Ian from Manchester. Now the Super Mario maker has levels andy costume from the 1758 01:45:57.359 --> 01:46:00.560 rom com Mango slash anime Nissa koy. I just wanted to check in and 1759 01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:03.640 see how you feel about inadvertently giving your Game of the Year award to an 1760 01:46:03.680 --> 01:46:09.199 anime game. Seriously, though, I find it pretty fascinating that Nintendo was 1761 01:46:09.279 --> 01:46:13.560 easing up with regards the use of its IP and crossover potential. This is 1762 01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:15.520 probably one off, but I found it pretty great. Uh. How we 1763 01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:20.359 went from some saying Splatoon reminds them of squid Girl squid Girl two straight up 1764 01:46:20.399 --> 01:46:25.560 getting official squid Girl DLC Force Splatoon for now. I like that. Nintendo 1765 01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:29.520 just seems to be having fun with this. What yeah, no, yeah, 1766 01:46:29.520 --> 01:46:32.479 they see yes, they it's I like that they are rolling all that 1767 01:46:32.560 --> 01:46:36.720 stuff out worldwide. Yeah, like still like characters that you're just like, 1768 01:46:36.840 --> 01:46:40.159 fucking what is it? Right? Right? I was looking at that sprite 1769 01:46:40.159 --> 01:46:44.239 on your screen the other day, going like what celebrities and yeah, that's 1770 01:46:44.279 --> 01:46:46.479 cool, it's cool. I like it. Also, it's it's that game 1771 01:46:46.560 --> 01:46:55.239 brings the world together in peace. Yeah, where's yeah? When when when's 1772 01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:58.159 the leak levels? I want to point out here, I'm showing Brad a 1773 01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:00.560 picture. It's totally a shell. That's not a I don't know what that 1774 01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:02.399 is, clearly a show. Let's like fan art or something. What do 1775 01:47:02.439 --> 01:47:06.239 you god? This is official Yoshi art. That is a show. Go 1776 01:47:06.359 --> 01:47:12.439 back to that original brand document or brand bible that had full his full name 1777 01:47:12.479 --> 01:47:17.800 in its hottest although and the old and the old Mario world art. It 1778 01:47:17.880 --> 01:47:20.520 looks more like that is absolutely a fucking side. Will I will agree that 1779 01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:24.720 looks like a saddle canonically a saddles. No, yeah, there's no bump 1780 01:47:24.800 --> 01:47:28.079 to that. Yeah, that totally looks like a saddle. And the more 1781 01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:32.600 recent arts, the more recent art, yeah, dam with Brad. Fuck 1782 01:47:32.680 --> 01:47:36.039 the more recent haven't you integrated the crucial lesson that things that are old are 1783 01:47:36.079 --> 01:47:40.199 better than things that are new. They're can be really good things and both. 1784 01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:45.520 No, that's how it works telling you, uh, okay, we're 1785 01:47:45.520 --> 01:47:48.720 shooting this podcast on film. Yes, oh good, Yeah, it's expensive. 1786 01:47:48.960 --> 01:47:54.079 Apparently all of these emails are coming from Europe today. Uh Stacy from 1787 01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:57.000 Bristol in the UK. As an email, I'm going to be developing and 1788 01:47:57.079 --> 01:48:00.079 releasing a final and soon to be defunct version of All in a House software 1789 01:48:00.159 --> 01:48:03.800 tool. When I inherited the maintenance of the tool, used Mario as the 1790 01:48:04.079 --> 01:48:08.279 icon, and we used it to identify the version of the tool. We 1791 01:48:08.399 --> 01:48:12.119 have gone through versions using Yoshi, Luigi, Wa Luigi, and Toad. 1792 01:48:12.600 --> 01:48:17.319 What Mario characters should adorn the final version? Toads worth, Toad's worth Boo, 1793 01:48:17.399 --> 01:48:20.680 it's a ghost because that thing's dead like ghosts. Okay, alright, 1794 01:48:20.840 --> 01:48:24.920 not bad, not bad. I would have said while Luigi, but they 1795 01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:29.800 already used that. Toadsworth is old. He's the guy that in Mario Sunshine, 1796 01:48:29.800 --> 01:48:31.399 when you spray with the water, he goes blah blah blah blah blah, 1797 01:48:31.439 --> 01:48:34.439 and he's got a mustache. He's got the white mustache. Now he's 1798 01:48:34.439 --> 01:48:38.720 a mushroom Kingdom Toad. Okay, Toad's a race and a guy. Yes, 1799 01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:42.359 okay, yeah, sure, it's the old wise Toad. Uh. 1800 01:48:42.840 --> 01:48:48.199 Kids of Peach Peach okay, hot social network. I think that would lead 1801 01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:51.479 the brand confusion with the app. People think that you're launching Peach and you 1802 01:48:51.479 --> 01:48:56.399 wouldn't want that. Still never letting into know audit your office. What if 1803 01:48:56.439 --> 01:49:01.640 it was just funky Kong? Alright, alright, yeah, yeah, it's 1804 01:49:01.720 --> 01:49:05.199 like the idea that this guy works in like the dry driest like accounting firm 1805 01:49:05.439 --> 01:49:09.279 in history or something, and then they have to refer to Funky Kong every 1806 01:49:09.279 --> 01:49:13.319 time they're doing whatever audit the software is used for mail Stacy, Yes, 1807 01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:16.479 I believe so I know they were male Stacy Stacy Keach. Yeah. Oh 1808 01:49:16.560 --> 01:49:19.359 of course, based on the picture that was attached to the email, which 1809 01:49:19.399 --> 01:49:23.039 is a weird thing, but you know that's what Google does these days. 1810 01:49:23.159 --> 01:49:28.079 Yeah, it ain't all gravitars anymore. I've still got my gravatar though. 1811 01:49:28.239 --> 01:49:30.439 Nice. Every once in a while it'll pop up on something. Still, 1812 01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:33.239 where's why did it? Where did that thing get pulled from it? That's 1813 01:49:33.279 --> 01:49:39.000 scary stealing. Oh oh, it's just a gravatar. Yeah, right, 1814 01:49:39.159 --> 01:49:44.479 it's just a gravatar. Ye indeed, Wow, this emails from William H 1815 01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:49.159 from Sheffield in the UK. They're gonna say, Williamsburg. Based on rumor 1816 01:49:49.199 --> 01:49:53.800 and possibly leaked images, it seems that the PlayStation VR will have a breakout 1817 01:49:53.880 --> 01:49:57.880 box between the headset and the PS four to help carry the hefty requirements of 1818 01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:01.319 VR games. Do you think they're any possibility this breakout box could help buff 1819 01:50:01.399 --> 01:50:05.000 up the power of the PS four when playing non VR titles. I'm not 1820 01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:09.439 talking about anything crazy, but perhaps the PS four could offload some tasks to 1821 01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:13.079 a breakout box for slightly better frame rates, et cetera. An N sixty 1822 01:50:13.119 --> 01:50:15.960 four expansion pack, right yeah, Like it's the it's the thirty two X 1823 01:50:15.079 --> 01:50:18.239 all over again. Like you can't can't design around something that only a small 1824 01:50:18.239 --> 01:50:21.239 subset's going to have, right yeah? What developer would be crazy enough to 1825 01:50:21.439 --> 01:50:27.399 spend the time to build that right functionality into their games. It's not some 1826 01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:31.520 automatic power boost? Yeah yeah, that's always the standard answer to questions about 1827 01:50:31.600 --> 01:50:34.720 using things to make consoles faster, And yet still the questions, I don't 1828 01:50:34.720 --> 01:50:38.960 even know how that thing's gonna plug in, because must be ports. There's 1829 01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:43.239 the camera port. Yeah, yeah, I mean I wonder if that's a 1830 01:50:43.319 --> 01:50:45.840 high that can carry data fast. I guess there's no. There's no USB 1831 01:50:45.960 --> 01:50:49.079 on the back of that. There's there's two on the front, yeah, 1832 01:50:49.479 --> 01:50:51.920 camera port in the back. Heard. I don't know at all. Three. 1833 01:50:53.560 --> 01:50:58.479 Oh man, I actually have no idea ethernet. Also, my understanding, 1834 01:50:58.520 --> 01:51:00.680 based on talking to some developers who have developed on that thing, is 1835 01:51:00.760 --> 01:51:04.359 that it doesn't have like a GPU in it. It's not like, yeah, 1836 01:51:04.479 --> 01:51:10.279 it's it's more like a doing the positional tracking stuff, handling the input 1837 01:51:10.399 --> 01:51:14.039 stuff that that otherwise the CPU would have to busy itself with more importantly, 1838 01:51:14.319 --> 01:51:19.039 Why don't we call breakout boxes bobs? Mmmm mmm? Oh yeah, okay, 1839 01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:24.640 it's right there. All right, well this is right there. Since 1840 01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:28.800 you're full answer today, Drew got some questions for you. Here's an email 1841 01:51:28.840 --> 01:51:33.680 from a different Ian. Actually it's two emails. Drew, what is dry 1842 01:51:33.720 --> 01:51:38.479 shampoo? Can it be trusted? Who does it work for? Then minutes 1843 01:51:38.600 --> 01:51:44.279 later another email came in from Ian. I don't trust it. I don't 1844 01:51:44.279 --> 01:51:48.199 actually know what dry shampoo is. I imagine it would like bind to the 1845 01:51:48.279 --> 01:51:54.159 oils in your hair and then you brush it out. I don't trust it. 1846 01:51:54.600 --> 01:51:58.479 No, there's there's been some dry shampoo in my home on occasion. 1847 01:52:00.199 --> 01:52:06.199 So there's the thing. So ladies take time with their hair, and so 1848 01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:11.720 sometimes it's easier for them to not necessarily wash it because then it requires a 1849 01:52:11.880 --> 01:52:15.079 full redo of how it works. I have a lot of hair, so 1850 01:52:15.399 --> 01:52:17.359 yeah, yeah, I assume, like you know, men with longer hair 1851 01:52:17.479 --> 01:52:23.279 probably have a similar situation. I use a lot of conditioner. It's getting 1852 01:52:23.319 --> 01:52:28.960 expensive. I Sean Koonts once, I believe, said that he didn't wash 1853 01:52:29.039 --> 01:52:31.119 his hair every day, and at the time, I was washing my hair 1854 01:52:31.199 --> 01:52:36.560 every day and I stopped because it was it's good enough for Sean. Yeah, 1855 01:52:36.880 --> 01:52:42.560 good enough for my fucking broke ass uh. You know, to let 1856 01:52:42.600 --> 01:52:45.079 that oil build up a little bit and stuff like that. That's why I 1857 01:52:45.079 --> 01:52:47.680 don't everything. Yeah, it's natural. You want some of that. And 1858 01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:53.319 I was liking where my hair was going once I stopped washing. Yeah, 1859 01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:57.520 so you don't even get it wet. I'll get a wet Yeah, when 1860 01:52:57.520 --> 01:53:00.199 you don't. On the off days, you still get it wet. Kind 1861 01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:02.000 of massage with your fingertips or whatever. It's like. But if you you 1862 01:53:02.039 --> 01:53:05.000 know, let's let's say you know if you're if you're like straightening your hair 1863 01:53:05.319 --> 01:53:08.920 or curling it or something like that. You know, washing it means you 1864 01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:11.560 have to do all of that work again. But what if it gets like 1865 01:53:11.760 --> 01:53:15.720 maybe slightly dirty, oily or something. I don't know. I don't know. 1866 01:53:16.279 --> 01:53:21.880 Dry shampoo is something you can use in that situation. Apparently, I 1867 01:53:21.960 --> 01:53:26.720 don't know. I don't trust it, but I've seen it used. Neither 1868 01:53:26.760 --> 01:53:29.199 does he. And it turns out i've seen it used. It's not much 1869 01:53:29.239 --> 01:53:31.640 trust for dry shampoo around here. I can't blame you. Just Pert Plus. 1870 01:53:31.720 --> 01:53:35.039 It's fine, that's all in one. I don't know. Just it's 1871 01:53:35.039 --> 01:53:39.439 a green bottle in your findings. Don't you just like pour that all over 1872 01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:46.000 your body? No use a damn bar soapen purt Plus, nobody like that. 1873 01:53:46.359 --> 01:53:49.079 I don't like that. I use a bar soap and pert Plus or 1874 01:53:49.159 --> 01:53:51.680 like head and Shoulders off brand, because it's the same thing, same active 1875 01:53:51.760 --> 01:53:56.239 ingredients. All that stuff just save money. One thing is shampoo, one 1876 01:53:56.279 --> 01:53:59.079 bar soap. You're seting. I nothing more than I will say that I 1877 01:53:59.239 --> 01:54:02.600 appreciate a shampoo with conditioner in it already, I guess I still don't know 1878 01:54:02.720 --> 01:54:06.239 what conditioner does it conditions? What does that mean? It makes your shame? 1879 01:54:08.520 --> 01:54:10.720 Why does that matter? I just wanted to be clean and not stinky, 1880 01:54:11.920 --> 01:54:14.520 Like why you're not feeling my hair? I mean, well, someone 1881 01:54:14.560 --> 01:54:17.319 else your hair grows. Your hair grows, uh in such a way that 1882 01:54:17.800 --> 01:54:21.520 it's fine to leave it like that. My hair is really fine. So 1883 01:54:21.600 --> 01:54:27.159 if I don't condition it and it's all just dry, it'll like spas out 1884 01:54:27.159 --> 01:54:31.720 all over the place. I'm sorry we're talking to uh yeah, yeah, 1885 01:54:31.800 --> 01:54:34.920 cuts down on yes, right, yes, that's an important distinction to make. 1886 01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:39.079 It cuts down on the frizz. You don't have frizzy. What I'm 1887 01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:42.479 trying to say, place when your kid is tough seul yeah, out of 1888 01:54:42.520 --> 01:54:45.960 control? What's the way? Is utilitarian? Is that the word where you're 1889 01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:46.800 just doing the stuff? Yeah, you're just like, I just don't want 1890 01:54:46.840 --> 01:54:50.079 to stink. I don't ever care about cosmetics or looks like. So if 1891 01:54:50.159 --> 01:54:54.039 I don't need conditioner, if I just care about not stinking, right right, 1892 01:54:54.159 --> 01:54:55.880 yeah, okay, then I'm not gonna get a conditioner. All right, 1893 01:54:55.880 --> 01:54:59.159 Okay, that's money saved, like on your I thought the whole point 1894 01:54:59.199 --> 01:55:01.560 of purt plus was the it had conditioner in it. I just think it's 1895 01:55:01.640 --> 01:55:05.239 shampoo, isn't it. I found Per's whole thing is their whole selling point 1896 01:55:05.319 --> 01:55:13.359 is that condition I want to take the plus out and save somebody. Huh. 1897 01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:15.199 I would just buy another shampoop working all over the floor. I think 1898 01:55:15.279 --> 01:55:19.680 right now I am using green Apple store brand head and shoulders. So maybe 1899 01:55:19.880 --> 01:55:24.319 I was using a Garnier fruit tease for a while because I liked to citrus 1900 01:55:24.359 --> 01:55:26.640 smell in the morning, and then it was it was a nice orange ish 1901 01:55:26.800 --> 01:55:29.960 kind of lemony, kind of citrusy sort of thing, and I thought that 1902 01:55:30.199 --> 01:55:31.279 was nice in the morning. That's the one with the weird plastic bubble on 1903 01:55:31.279 --> 01:55:33.159 the top, right. Yeah, probably, I don't know. Yeah, 1904 01:55:33.359 --> 01:55:35.680 it was a while ago, okay, but he didn't have a conditioner in 1905 01:55:35.720 --> 01:55:40.119 it, so I didn't trust it. It's not a lot of trust for 1906 01:55:40.199 --> 01:55:45.119 hair care products in this room, and it shows I'm finding yes. Uh. 1907 01:55:45.760 --> 01:55:49.640 Next emails from Gavin does not say where he's from. It's probably the 1908 01:55:49.800 --> 01:55:58.159 UK sheffield Shire. Probably still sound like a uniquely American problem, but I 1909 01:55:58.239 --> 01:56:01.600 could be wrong. Recently, Pepsi has changed its recipe and no longer contains 1910 01:56:01.600 --> 01:56:05.399 as pertain Yeah. While I understand why Pepsi made the move due to health 1911 01:56:05.439 --> 01:56:09.800 concerns. No, because they're fucking suckers. There are no fucking health concerns. 1912 01:56:09.840 --> 01:56:13.439 But they've tested the shit out as pertase. That's what they want you 1913 01:56:13.479 --> 01:56:17.119 to believe me. Yeah, away, he says, I no longer enjoy 1914 01:56:17.239 --> 01:56:20.920 the taste of the soda more. As as I know, Jeff is a 1915 01:56:20.960 --> 01:56:25.319 big diet Pepsi drinker. I wonder if how he feels or I'm sorry, 1916 01:56:25.319 --> 01:56:28.479 I wonder if he feels the same about the change. Can you recall any 1917 01:56:28.520 --> 01:56:30.760 food or drinks that you once really enjoyed but I have lost the taste for 1918 01:56:30.960 --> 01:56:34.680 because of the recipe change? Tricks tricks. When tricks get went into fruit 1919 01:56:34.760 --> 01:56:38.840 shapes out instead of just balls, didn't they go back to balls? Yeah? 1920 01:56:38.880 --> 01:56:42.960 But I think the recipe didn't change back the flavor the changing. The 1921 01:56:43.039 --> 01:56:45.680 consistency of the cereal got a little harder and a little more waxy, and 1922 01:56:45.920 --> 01:56:50.000 to the taste of the fruit. Flavors changed, and fuck tricks. Unfortunately 1923 01:56:50.079 --> 01:56:54.279 I was still good. Nah, I can't. I can't deal with tricks 1924 01:56:54.279 --> 01:56:57.760 anymore. It's not my thing. I fell off the tricks wagon at that 1925 01:56:57.840 --> 01:57:01.600 point in the eighties early nineties, maybe because you were a kid back then. 1926 01:57:01.720 --> 01:57:03.479 Yeah, and then at some point they're like, oh, you fucked 1927 01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:08.800 up tricks, Fuck you forever, silly rabbit. Yeah that's a shame. 1928 01:57:09.079 --> 01:57:11.760 And yeah, they put in PEPs so they took out the aspertain and I 1929 01:57:11.800 --> 01:57:14.199 don't know, I don't know what they put in. It's something else, 1930 01:57:14.279 --> 01:57:18.199 something else, uh, splenda, I don't know. Yeah, I think 1931 01:57:18.239 --> 01:57:21.399 it actually is. I think Splenda is like this genius marketing play where they 1932 01:57:21.439 --> 01:57:25.960 convince people that it was something other than just aspert team. Yeah anyway, 1933 01:57:26.319 --> 01:57:30.000 yes, they they are now the around the pepsi logo on a diet pits 1934 01:57:30.119 --> 01:57:33.479 candas is no asperta And I don't understand diet soda like I could never understand 1935 01:57:33.520 --> 01:57:38.119 the different play like dirt, Like like why did why did Coke zero have 1936 01:57:38.239 --> 01:57:41.359 to be conceived in a world where diet or Well, it's because that's a 1937 01:57:41.439 --> 01:57:45.880 marketing thing where they feel like dudes don't want to buy diet soda because it's 1938 01:57:45.239 --> 01:57:49.600 it's it's also a different artificial sweetener, isn't. Yeah, there's a taste 1939 01:57:49.640 --> 01:57:54.119 it tastes. It tastes quite a bit different than dietco but from the marketing 1940 01:57:54.159 --> 01:57:56.720 perspective. That is the thing. That's why you saw stuff like doctor Pepper 1941 01:57:56.800 --> 01:57:59.199 ten, it's not for women, and like because they thought that guys had 1942 01:57:59.239 --> 01:58:02.520 some weird stigma about drinking a diet. There's only ladies diet, right exactly. 1943 01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:04.359 It was like, no coke zero, it's in a black can. 1944 01:58:04.439 --> 01:58:06.760 It looks manly, it doesn't that thing. Doesn't that Doctor Pepper actually have 1945 01:58:06.880 --> 01:58:10.359 ten calories? Yeah, that's that's why it's it's called doctor Pepper ten. 1946 01:58:10.399 --> 01:58:12.439 They had that. They had to give it just a few calories just to 1947 01:58:12.479 --> 01:58:15.319 make you feel like a man. They would say in the commercial ten manly 1948 01:58:15.399 --> 01:58:18.560 calories. And the tagline was literally doctor Pepper ten, it's not for women. 1949 01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:21.800 These were commercials that came out like three or four years ago. I 1950 01:58:21.840 --> 01:58:25.800 really yeah, it's like it wasn't like a Super Bowl campaign. I think 1951 01:58:26.319 --> 01:58:30.560 bullshit. YouTube there's there's a guy like fly fishing and wrestling a bear's where 1952 01:58:30.560 --> 01:58:33.319 he's like driving like an ATV through a four shooting a grenade launcher or something 1953 01:58:33.359 --> 01:58:39.399 like. I'm not making this up. Women could do all that except drink 1954 01:58:39.439 --> 01:58:43.840 doctor Pepper. So that's right, those calories are just right. No girls 1955 01:58:43.960 --> 01:58:46.520 allowed where the backwards are on it. It's a fucking clubhouse and a can 1956 01:58:46.640 --> 01:58:49.039 you have piece of shit. So I'm a dude and I don't want to 1957 01:58:49.079 --> 01:58:51.279 do any of those things. Yeah right, I don't know. I would 1958 01:58:51.279 --> 01:58:56.199 shoot a grenadela well, that might that would probably be fun, But I'm 1959 01:58:56.239 --> 01:58:59.960 not gonna hang out in a stream or fight a bear. And I've still 1960 01:59:00.159 --> 01:59:02.640 in water before it was it was it was not unpleasant, kind of nice. 1961 01:59:02.920 --> 01:59:08.479 It's lept about the ankles or so it's tolerable. Yeah, it's not 1962 01:59:08.640 --> 01:59:12.880 as good, but I kept drinking it and its and it's the yeah, 1963 01:59:12.960 --> 01:59:15.920 And I feel like they fucking won and I hate it. I feel like 1964 01:59:15.960 --> 01:59:18.600 they only changed it because they got pressure from people that are like good as 1965 01:59:18.680 --> 01:59:21.840 Pertain's gonna kill you know what it's like. You know, it's fucking not. 1966 01:59:24.239 --> 01:59:26.600 It gives people headaches, like no, like they test the shit out 1967 01:59:26.600 --> 01:59:28.520 of it. If you want to tell me that, like you like, 1968 01:59:28.680 --> 01:59:30.239 go all the way with it and say, like, you know, I 1969 01:59:30.319 --> 01:59:33.039 believe in the conspiracy that they're falsifying the ass pertain Like okay, then fine, 1970 01:59:33.760 --> 01:59:36.920 if you want to be one of those fucking people, let's just settle 1971 01:59:36.960 --> 01:59:40.079 this once and for all, let's just get John Drake. Put him in 1972 01:59:40.119 --> 01:59:44.840 a lab. He's fine, got the electrodes, make sure, make sure, 1973 01:59:44.960 --> 01:59:47.199 make sure, if he's healthy. If he's healthy, then everybody's fine. 1974 01:59:47.319 --> 01:59:51.079 Exactly. He's the canary in the coal mine, all this ship and 1975 01:59:51.279 --> 01:59:56.159 everything's fucking fine. You should probably just keep a camera on him twenty four 1976 01:59:56.199 --> 02:00:00.640 seven good option. I would watch that. Yeah, sure, I ah, 1977 02:00:00.920 --> 02:00:03.439 some sort of tracking device. Yeah, we probably keeps habs on where 1978 02:00:03.479 --> 02:00:09.520 he's going and why when I would I would if I if I did switch 1979 02:00:09.560 --> 02:00:15.720 away from diet PEPSI, I don't know. I guess diet barks. Yeah, 1980 02:00:15.720 --> 02:00:17.159 I don't always want to root beer and there's no caffeine and die barks. 1981 02:00:17.239 --> 02:00:19.720 Yeah. Also yeah, but also like the caffeine, I don't think 1982 02:00:19.720 --> 02:00:24.600 I am noticing it at all. Like I'm you know, I'm drinking like 1983 02:00:24.880 --> 02:00:28.279 large iced coffee drinks on occasion, and nine times out of ten it does 1984 02:00:28.359 --> 02:00:30.279 Jack ship. That's my new thing is we have the free ones here and 1985 02:00:30.399 --> 02:00:32.479 I didn't take advantage of it for like the first year and a half I 1986 02:00:32.520 --> 02:00:35.840 worked here, And now that I drink coffee, it turns out that's really 1987 02:00:35.880 --> 02:00:39.439 good. So I drink iced coffee all the fucking time. Now it's great. 1988 02:00:40.159 --> 02:00:44.039 I yeah, all occasionally have a coffee or an iced coffee or something 1989 02:00:44.119 --> 02:00:47.039 like that, and if hot caffeine will affect me, but I had, 1990 02:00:47.439 --> 02:00:53.039 so I've been drinking rock Star recovery for a while now, the same recovery 1991 02:00:53.119 --> 02:00:55.960 for like hangover. Is that what? I think? That's the secret implication 1992 02:00:56.039 --> 02:00:59.079 that there is, like, hey, you fuck up, you are wasted, 1993 02:00:59.199 --> 02:01:01.560 still to go to work, dumb ass, drink one of these. 1994 02:01:01.680 --> 02:01:05.520 It won't actually help, but hey, it's only ten calories per serving? 1995 02:01:05.600 --> 02:01:10.239 Are they manly calories per serving? I mean it's a it's a refreshing lemonade 1996 02:01:10.279 --> 02:01:14.880 drink. You tell me. Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is 1997 02:01:15.359 --> 02:01:19.279 so good. Uh, certainly they don't have it in Finland? Really, 1998 02:01:19.600 --> 02:01:24.119 yeah, lemons, maybe some finished people can write in that's weird. Do 1999 02:01:24.159 --> 02:01:27.760 you have lemonade there? I so I went over the weekend and had to 2000 02:01:27.800 --> 02:01:31.159 get some energy drinks because I was in a bad way where I wanted some 2001 02:01:31.279 --> 02:01:33.199 energy to drinks. I didn't need a menage, like I'm gonna go to 2002 02:01:33.239 --> 02:01:36.359 the store and didn't. I didn't have any. I got a rock star 2003 02:01:36.439 --> 02:01:40.960 recovery and I got a rock star punched and I drink the punched. Shit 2004 02:01:41.119 --> 02:01:44.359 fucked me up. Man. Yeah, there's something about the full bodied like 2005 02:01:44.600 --> 02:01:46.079 non you know, because the recovery on it is like ten galleries in or 2006 02:01:46.119 --> 02:01:48.199 something like that. I don't know what, if what else the punched has 2007 02:01:48.239 --> 02:01:53.279 in It's it's like a fruit punch. I like a fruit punch. I 2008 02:01:53.399 --> 02:01:56.920 drank that thing and I was I was good to go. So I think 2009 02:01:56.920 --> 02:01:59.760 it might be a situation where maybe I just have to rotate energy drinks every 2010 02:01:59.800 --> 02:02:01.960 three years or something like that when I get to this weird point where it's 2011 02:02:01.960 --> 02:02:04.920 like I'm not I'm just not eating it like I used to, and like 2012 02:02:05.000 --> 02:02:08.840 I have, you've taken enough of the poison and now that you're immune, 2013 02:02:09.039 --> 02:02:13.479 you need to move on exactly. Yeah, it's and and so now when 2014 02:02:13.520 --> 02:02:15.359 I when I drink a Red Bull, it actually does something to me again, 2015 02:02:15.399 --> 02:02:21.000 which for years it didn't. And one time I drank enough, I 2016 02:02:21.079 --> 02:02:25.840 think I got a peptic ulcer. Wow, that sounds bad if you drink 2017 02:02:25.840 --> 02:02:28.960 too much tourine. As it turns out, if you drink too much Red 2018 02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:32.960 Bull, you can that can happen. And me and Ryan and this guy 2019 02:02:33.079 --> 02:02:38.920 Ben, we each bought cases of that concentrated red Bull, the tie tie 2020 02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:42.560 red Bull. I've still got an unopened one of those in a drawer somewhere 2021 02:02:42.640 --> 02:02:44.720 that's about eight years It's good. It tastes like red bull syrup. It's 2022 02:02:44.720 --> 02:02:47.039 like concentrated red Bull, and it's not carbonated or anything like that. And 2023 02:02:47.119 --> 02:02:51.880 so I drink twelve of those one sitting wow. And then Ryan and Ben 2024 02:02:53.079 --> 02:02:57.760 split a twelve. And then the next day we went back to the store 2025 02:02:57.840 --> 02:03:00.920 for more, and the woman saw us getting them, and she's like she 2026 02:03:00.039 --> 02:03:02.279 realized we had just bought them, and she's like, no, no, 2027 02:03:02.520 --> 02:03:06.079 no, no, like didn't didn't speak the best English, but was very 2028 02:03:06.159 --> 02:03:10.039 much, very adamant that we did not drink all of those, did you? 2029 02:03:11.359 --> 02:03:14.079 Yeah, no, I didn't. Didn't drink a second case. He 2030 02:03:14.119 --> 02:03:15.720 went back and got more for whatever else he was doing. But then after 2031 02:03:15.760 --> 02:03:18.239 that we went to a taco bell and one of those guys used to work 2032 02:03:18.239 --> 02:03:23.880 at a taco bell and he knew how to get just the Mountain deuce syrup 2033 02:03:23.920 --> 02:03:25.960 out of the fountain, like you hit the little switch in the back. 2034 02:03:26.479 --> 02:03:29.479 Okay. So I drank like two ounces of that after drinking twelve of those 2035 02:03:29.520 --> 02:03:30.760 things, my stomach herd for like a month. It was all. I 2036 02:03:30.760 --> 02:03:34.159 couldn't drink Red Bull for years afterward. It just it just didn't. It 2037 02:03:34.279 --> 02:03:39.319 held no appeal. That's that's unfortunate. And then I slowly got back on 2038 02:03:39.439 --> 02:03:43.359 the train and everything's fine now. But yeah, apparently if you take, 2039 02:03:43.479 --> 02:03:45.720 if you get too much of that in your system, it can lead to 2040 02:03:45.760 --> 02:03:51.039 a temporary a peptic culture. Careful, temporary sit careful with tie Red Bull's 2041 02:03:51.319 --> 02:03:55.640 potent. Oh yeah, that shit, concentrate, She'll do it for you. 2042 02:03:55.720 --> 02:03:58.800 I wonder if you could still get that around here. Probably surely someone 2043 02:03:58.920 --> 02:04:00.920 has it. Yeah, oh, I'm sure. Like I would love to 2044 02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:03.399 have some. I kind of want to go fund somewhere in the Richmond null 2045 02:04:03.439 --> 02:04:06.640 bet sells it. Yeah, probably probably. I would love to maybe somewhere 2046 02:04:06.680 --> 02:04:12.319 around japan Town or something. All right, Email from Jack in New York. 2047 02:04:13.840 --> 02:04:17.680 Yes that's a good place. Uh, Jack says, have you seen 2048 02:04:17.760 --> 02:04:24.359 the thousands of people commenting skate four on every single post on EA's Instagram account. 2049 02:04:25.000 --> 02:04:28.239 If there's ever a time I've seen social media used to send a message 2050 02:04:28.279 --> 02:04:30.560 positively, this seems to be it. Let's hope, EA take notice. 2051 02:04:30.920 --> 02:04:34.880 I mean there's probably like two people maybe right, I don't know, it's 2052 02:04:34.920 --> 02:04:39.840 just the their their account is just Ea on Instagram. We should go check. 2053 02:04:40.680 --> 02:04:43.359 I would look, he says, I don't know. He makes him 2054 02:04:43.359 --> 02:04:49.600 sound dire. We're gonna fact check this situation right now. I thought it 2055 02:04:49.680 --> 02:04:51.359 was kind of funny, but I mean yet, if you remember, there 2056 02:04:51.439 --> 02:04:56.880 was like the kind of beauty pie whipped skate three back into the main stream 2057 02:04:57.399 --> 02:05:00.920 right a year or two ago. So I think it's just eight has taken 2058 02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:04.359 on kind of a myth mythical quality. Okay, this some extent. Uh 2059 02:05:05.079 --> 02:05:11.159 Ea posted this little picture and says who's ready to play hashtag pvzg W two 2060 02:05:11.199 --> 02:05:15.000 tomorrow, hashtag video games, hashtag games, hashtag gaming. I'll play that. 2061 02:05:15.600 --> 02:05:19.920 God comments like okay, there are there are three thousand, three hundred 2062 02:05:19.920 --> 02:05:25.520 seventy eight likes here and the comments okay, first comments, I'm ready for 2063 02:05:25.720 --> 02:05:33.079 hashtag skate four at eau frownie face or like like like disgusted face that's from 2064 02:05:33.439 --> 02:05:40.039 Enrique's IP All Stars fifteen R just says me. Nick Jacob twenty three says 2065 02:05:40.159 --> 02:05:45.760 skate four. Hammer of Thorne says skate four. Kyle Sukel says skate four 2066 02:05:46.000 --> 02:05:53.760 okay x X display with an extra y xx says hashtag skate four sixty six. 2067 02:05:53.960 --> 02:05:58.840 Goose says skate four damn it sixty six. Goo also says skate four 2068 02:06:00.720 --> 02:06:10.279 rand is the randis to the animal says skate four XD Vivo Underscore Kra says 2069 02:06:10.319 --> 02:06:16.039 skate four. Plass Backlash fifty fifty three says skate five, please damn. 2070 02:06:17.960 --> 02:06:27.000 Eric Pato three says skate four pulls Teodoro Sore says hashtag skate four. Gusts 2071 02:06:27.119 --> 02:06:33.560 DS says s. Gus DS says k gust DS says A. Gust DS 2072 02:06:33.640 --> 02:06:38.600 says T I think he's going with this. Aiden b J says skate five. 2073 02:06:39.159 --> 02:06:45.239 Gus DS says E. Gust DS says four. Burger Dix says skate 2074 02:06:45.439 --> 02:06:53.479 four. BIOTCG B I O TCG what what is that a card? Is 2075 02:06:53.520 --> 02:06:55.680 he trying to say that? Did you make a skate before card game? 2076 02:06:55.760 --> 02:06:58.359 What do you think these kids are trying to get at? SETH Beckley says 2077 02:06:58.399 --> 02:07:04.479 skate four please. EBAs eighteen says yes, I think they want skate four. 2078 02:07:05.199 --> 02:07:09.960 We'll see what this other thing says you can play. You can play 2079 02:07:10.119 --> 02:07:14.840 hashtag pvzg W two on EA access in Origin access this weekend. Hashtag video 2080 02:07:14.920 --> 02:07:17.439 games, hashtag games, hashtag gaming. I feel like that's they should spell 2081 02:07:17.479 --> 02:07:19.840 out the name of their fucking game in their own thing, because like, 2082 02:07:20.000 --> 02:07:23.239 what is you know, maybe you don't know what that means? Kids like 2083 02:07:23.319 --> 02:07:29.840 acronyms. Load more comments, Load more comments. It's hard to actually load 2084 02:07:29.880 --> 02:07:33.640 all the comments on this thing. Jack Kelsey says Skate four will end? 2085 02:07:33.720 --> 02:07:40.199 Isis I mean when you think? Jack Kelsey says Skate four will bring my 2086 02:07:40.319 --> 02:07:45.840 father back? Heavy expectations. Tom Howard with an extra D says, hiya, 2087 02:07:45.520 --> 02:07:48.640 I would like Skate four asap, as soon as possible. Please. 2088 02:07:48.760 --> 02:07:51.840 It's really a necessity to my day to day needs. Without it, I 2089 02:07:51.920 --> 02:07:56.640 will likely starve our parish and my analysts struggle to survive in this god awful 2090 02:07:56.720 --> 02:08:00.720 land of de kay cheers, EA, thanks for listening. X x x 2091 02:08:01.000 --> 02:08:07.640 X Vanilla Jamie says, skate four. My boy, mister jigger X says 2092 02:08:07.760 --> 02:08:11.640 boy yea, you keep shitting out games left and right, but where'd that 2093 02:08:11.760 --> 02:08:18.560 Skate four at? Yeah? That's ten Gage says skate four or you hate 2094 02:08:18.600 --> 02:08:22.439 America. Jack Kelsey's back and he says he hates America. Then Jack Elsey 2095 02:08:22.479 --> 02:08:28.640 had followed up said unless Skate four, the people have spoken. I think 2096 02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:37.159 Desmond Butler twelve WDS says, release NBA Live Mobile in the US unexpected turn 2097 02:08:39.920 --> 02:08:45.000 Skate four. Do you think they will make a Skate four? There is 2098 02:08:45.079 --> 02:08:50.640 an Instagram account Skate four with the EA logo says Skate four eight twenty three 2099 02:08:50.760 --> 02:08:54.880 sixteen prayer to tighten your trucks. The franchise is back like never before. 2100 02:08:54.239 --> 02:09:01.960 Fifteen followers. They're tweeting to look like skate three screen shots with four hastily 2101 02:09:01.039 --> 02:09:05.119 placed that posted on there. That's cool. Yeah, if we searched the 2102 02:09:05.279 --> 02:09:11.640 skate four hashtag, you get two thousand, four hundred and eighteen posts. 2103 02:09:13.560 --> 02:09:18.840 That's right behind skate four Jesus three thousand, four hundred and sixty five posts. 2104 02:09:18.880 --> 02:09:22.239 I think the people want their skate. Do you think they will make 2105 02:09:22.239 --> 02:09:26.039 a new skate You know, I there's a groundswall of support. I would 2106 02:09:26.079 --> 02:09:31.079 love for them to make Skate four. Yeah, maybe it's time, But 2107 02:09:31.239 --> 02:09:35.199 I wonder how many people from the previous games are still there and where they've 2108 02:09:35.279 --> 02:09:37.479 moved to, Like you know, we've said it before. It sounded like 2109 02:09:37.600 --> 02:09:41.000 that some chunk of that team went on to actually do plants versa zombies garden 2110 02:09:41.039 --> 02:09:46.439 warfare. Right, that's right, So hey, they know how to make 2111 02:09:46.479 --> 02:09:48.920 games, it seems. Yeah, the skate games are good. They made 2112 02:09:48.960 --> 02:09:54.319 a great skate series and then they made a better than it should have been 2113 02:09:54.279 --> 02:09:58.319 spin off wave based multiplayer shooter. I think that the release of Tony Hawk 2114 02:09:58.359 --> 02:10:01.800 five actually the kind of salt the earth and when it comes to putting out 2115 02:10:01.800 --> 02:10:05.680 a skateboarding game at all right now, and it's like you'd think that might 2116 02:10:05.760 --> 02:10:07.800 go the other way, and people are like, oh, they're clamoring for 2117 02:10:07.880 --> 02:10:09.760 a great skateboarding game. But I just don't know that enough people cared about 2118 02:10:09.800 --> 02:10:16.199 Tony Hawk one way or the other to necessarily give you a lot of like 2119 02:10:16.720 --> 02:10:22.960 faith in the market to really truly come out for a quality skateboarding game. 2120 02:10:24.319 --> 02:10:26.720 I just don't know that the interest is there in a in a wide sense, 2121 02:10:26.760 --> 02:10:31.239 in a wide scale. Sure, they should do it, though I 2122 02:10:31.239 --> 02:10:35.600 would love I would love to see them try. No guarantee that would be 2123 02:10:35.600 --> 02:10:41.000 a great game. Kate It was not perfect, It had some issues, 2124 02:10:41.079 --> 02:10:43.279 It had heart though definitely right, Yeah, I love the intro movies, 2125 02:10:43.399 --> 02:10:50.640 the just a great set of games. Like the idea that EA, of 2126 02:10:50.680 --> 02:10:54.119 all companies, would come along and ride the cotails of the skateboarding video game 2127 02:10:54.199 --> 02:10:58.199 craze and actually do something interesting and different with it. Yeah, I mean, 2128 02:10:58.239 --> 02:11:01.199 you know, not just making also ran just kind of like glombing onto 2129 02:11:01.199 --> 02:11:03.520 the success of something else. Well, I mean they took a very if 2130 02:11:03.560 --> 02:11:05.039 you think about it, they took a very EA like approach to it, 2131 02:11:05.479 --> 02:11:09.840 as if it was an EA Sports release where they're like there was they were 2132 02:11:09.880 --> 02:11:13.399 trying to make something that was a little more authentic than Tony Hawk. You 2133 02:11:13.479 --> 02:11:16.560 weren't busting out the pizza boxes and bullshit okay, fireworks out of your ass 2134 02:11:16.600 --> 02:11:24.960 while you're grinding. It wasn't about that. Uh, And it was those 2135 02:11:24.000 --> 02:11:30.359 are some great games. They should make Skate four all right? This podcast 2136 02:11:30.439 --> 02:11:35.319 is spoken hashtag skate four. Uh speaking of me up on the Grand Yes, 2137 02:11:35.399 --> 02:11:41.399 there you go, slash ea. Uh. Here's another email about the 2138 02:11:41.479 --> 02:11:46.119 EA Sports games Extreme Sports from Jacob in Bellingham, Washington. I was just 2139 02:11:46.239 --> 02:11:52.039 wondering if I could get your consensus on SSX tricky versus SSX three. Oh 2140 02:11:52.319 --> 02:11:58.279 man, Okay to it. Tricky is the second game. Tricky is the 2141 02:11:58.319 --> 02:12:01.640 second one, which is a lot of the same courses that were in the 2142 02:12:01.760 --> 02:12:03.800 first one, like Tokyo Megaplace, and I think a lot of the really 2143 02:12:03.880 --> 02:12:07.000 good courses came back for two. They had more characters, and they went 2144 02:12:07.159 --> 02:12:11.600 harder in the kind of wacky direction with the uber moves and everything, and 2145 02:12:11.800 --> 02:12:13.239 played its tricky. They played it's tricky when he got your uber moved, 2146 02:12:13.359 --> 02:12:16.880 and then there's stuff like the guy with the afro doing the worm on the 2147 02:12:16.920 --> 02:12:22.520 board and everything too. Tricky was more of a upgraded one, definitely better 2148 02:12:22.560 --> 02:12:26.800 than one, even though I loved one. Three took itself a little more 2149 02:12:26.960 --> 02:12:28.479 seriously. It was all like it's a big gimmick. Was it was all 2150 02:12:28.520 --> 02:12:33.720 on one giant mountain and they're just different paths and stuff, And I think 2151 02:12:33.760 --> 02:12:37.760 you could conceivably like start from the top and then go down and they were 2152 02:12:37.760 --> 02:12:41.159 like checkpoints along the way. Like I want to say that might be sex 2153 02:12:41.239 --> 02:12:43.640 three I'm thinking of, but no, no, that the final courses when 2154 02:12:43.680 --> 02:12:46.039 we're just drops you at the top and it's kind of almost more open the 2155 02:12:46.079 --> 02:12:48.600 way you go down and everything. But yeah, I think you could like 2156 02:12:48.720 --> 02:12:52.600 some courses were just like, we're going to attach this one to this one, 2157 02:12:52.920 --> 02:12:56.079 and it's really long, and it's got the trick stuff, the trick 2158 02:12:56.159 --> 02:13:01.159 mode, the race mode. Shit. I remember remember loving the hell out 2159 02:13:01.199 --> 02:13:03.079 of three and at the time thinking it was better than Tricky, but this 2160 02:13:03.199 --> 02:13:07.359 far removed. I'm struggling outside of the Mountain gimmick to remember exactly what it 2161 02:13:07.520 --> 02:13:09.920 was. I know, control wise and everything, it was just right. 2162 02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:13.279 What do you think of the reboot? I did not like it. Seein 2163 02:13:13.439 --> 02:13:18.159 that makes perfect sense because yeah, didn't just call it right. I didn't 2164 02:13:18.159 --> 02:13:20.520 like it. I ended up kind of liking that game, and I don't 2165 02:13:20.560 --> 02:13:22.840 like any of the other SSX game. I immediately hated the stuff where it's 2166 02:13:22.880 --> 02:13:24.960 like, oh, here, you gotta wear this thing for when it's like 2167 02:13:26.439 --> 02:13:30.439 warm, getting the shadow and or this is gonna break off. Like it 2168 02:13:30.520 --> 02:13:33.399 did not feel like their structure, with all the like timed tournaments and all 2169 02:13:33.439 --> 02:13:37.520 that stuff, seemed like a bunch of really cool ideas. I but the 2170 02:13:37.640 --> 02:13:41.000 actual snowboarding, you know, I was not. I don't know, I 2171 02:13:41.319 --> 02:13:45.760 just don't really like most snowboarding games. Yeah, I love three. I 2172 02:13:45.840 --> 02:13:52.199 capped it off like fuck everything else. Dark Stummit, the Snowboarding Sea Dark 2173 02:13:52.239 --> 02:13:58.359 Summit, and maybe Snowboard Kids. Uh yeah, I man spend so long 2174 02:13:58.399 --> 02:14:00.960 since I've played three, but I do remember thinking like this is the best, 2175 02:14:01.039 --> 02:14:03.720 and they actually made Tricky better. But I am struggling to remember what 2176 02:14:03.840 --> 02:14:07.399 the things were outside of that Mountain being pretty cool. But two was more 2177 02:14:07.439 --> 02:14:11.000 gimmicky. Two had like the big pinball type levels and stuff like tokey Megaplex. 2178 02:14:11.560 --> 02:14:16.000 But they're the first three are incredible fucking games. They're great. Didn't 2179 02:14:16.039 --> 02:14:20.159 like on tour they did a yeah, and that's more where you could. 2180 02:14:20.520 --> 02:14:24.600 No. I think ontour might have come to the w Two on tour, 2181 02:14:24.600 --> 02:14:26.640 I think is where they brought in skis. I think there was a separate 2182 02:14:26.720 --> 02:14:31.760 one downhill Jam was Tony Hawk. I think there was a separate we SSX 2183 02:14:31.079 --> 02:14:33.359 or maybe that was just on tour. But I didn't like that one. 2184 02:14:33.800 --> 02:14:37.479 But the first three are fantastic. Yeah, they were doing different because they 2185 02:14:37.479 --> 02:14:41.000 did skate It for the Wii, so they were they were kind of doing 2186 02:14:43.560 --> 02:14:46.079 slightly different takes on some of that. Maybe on tour was just we exclusive 2187 02:14:48.119 --> 02:14:50.199 and that's what I'm thinking of. I don't I just remember not being into 2188 02:14:50.239 --> 02:14:54.199 it. And really being into three. So there you have it. I 2189 02:14:54.199 --> 02:15:00.520 love those games, all right? Two more emails. What do you say? 2190 02:15:00.640 --> 02:15:03.680 Sure? All right, Drew? Yeah, when it's targeted squarely at 2191 02:15:03.760 --> 02:15:09.079 you, I can feel the laser beam on my forehead. Emails, all 2192 02:15:09.119 --> 02:15:11.920 these red lights in here, it's still all devil daggers in here. Yeah, 2193 02:15:13.920 --> 02:15:16.640 we're gonna walk outside that door and it's gonna be a giant wind, 2194 02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:20.720 giant skull with poor deal with ram horns. I really liked it. I 2195 02:15:20.840 --> 02:15:24.680 really liked it too a lot. I couldn't do this every week. It's 2196 02:15:24.840 --> 02:15:28.319 it's it's nice for this week. Did a shift to orange it's a theme 2197 02:15:28.359 --> 02:15:31.359 week? Nope, it's not orange now because it seemed to although although the 2198 02:15:31.399 --> 02:15:33.880 second that you said that, now it looks orange, it feels it's like 2199 02:15:33.960 --> 02:15:37.760 Denver Broncos orange. Here. It looked very red to me before, and 2200 02:15:37.840 --> 02:15:41.880 now it looks now it looks it was totally red before. What's happening to 2201 02:15:41.960 --> 02:15:46.000 our eyes? We're all dying now you see it. We only see it. 2202 02:15:46.119 --> 02:15:48.399 The only thing that we'll save us. As more emails uh from Kevin 2203 02:15:50.600 --> 02:15:54.479 Drew previously mentioned them the side effects of one consuming an excessive amount of fiber. 2204 02:15:54.119 --> 02:15:58.439 Let me tell you what happens when someone consumes too much protein. My 2205 02:15:58.560 --> 02:16:01.439 wife is a scenographer and has always been attempting to manage my protein intake as 2206 02:16:01.479 --> 02:16:07.520 a weightlifter. I never took the advice seriously until she's a stenographer sonographer okay, 2207 02:16:07.680 --> 02:16:13.880 like a like sonogram type person. Yes, I never took the advice 2208 02:16:13.920 --> 02:16:18.640 seriously until she showed me a recent example. She scanned a weightlifter who came 2209 02:16:18.680 --> 02:16:20.800 into the clinic with a complaint of quote back pain. After she did an 2210 02:16:20.880 --> 02:16:24.680 ultrasound on him, it was revealed that both of his kidneys were filled with 2211 02:16:24.800 --> 02:16:28.880 massive kidney stones, so big, in fact, that they took up most 2212 02:16:28.920 --> 02:16:33.000 of his kidneys. Like both his kidneys were solid rocks. There was no 2213 02:16:33.120 --> 02:16:35.399 way he could ever pass them. So we'll have to go under the knife. 2214 02:16:35.440 --> 02:16:39.639 A sap, drink plenty of water. Don't eat a dozen eggs for 2215 02:16:39.680 --> 02:16:43.920 breakfast, lift heavy. Wow, thank you, that's a lot of protein. 2216 02:16:45.559 --> 02:16:50.799 Jesus, Yes, that seems bad. Eat a dozen eggs for breakfast. 2217 02:16:52.159 --> 02:16:54.399 They just fired sound waves at the rocks to break them up. Oh, 2218 02:16:54.399 --> 02:16:56.840 I don't know, maybe I think it was probably not smaller ones. 2219 02:16:58.440 --> 02:17:01.719 I don't know, I don't know. That's I don't know that. Oh 2220 02:17:01.959 --> 02:17:05.559 God, I'll tell you. Probably you would probably see the stones, gall 2221 02:17:05.600 --> 02:17:09.000 stones, all that sort of stuff. That is you probably stilling passed the 2222 02:17:09.040 --> 02:17:13.479 little fragments. Yeah, supposed to be. I think you got a lot. 2223 02:17:13.639 --> 02:17:16.639 It's supposed to be horrifically painful. I feel like I've heard how painful 2224 02:17:16.680 --> 02:17:18.479 that is. That if I felt that I was for sure about to pass 2225 02:17:18.520 --> 02:17:22.799 a kidney stone, I would like just tell my girlfriend, like, take 2226 02:17:22.879 --> 02:17:24.120 me to the hospital, tell me I'm having kidney stones, take them out. 2227 02:17:24.159 --> 02:17:26.680 I gotta take care of this now. And then I would just run 2228 02:17:26.719 --> 02:17:28.399 headfirst into a wall until I was passed out, and I hope that I 2229 02:17:28.479 --> 02:17:31.760 just woke up in a hospital bed with no kidney stuff. I don't know 2230 02:17:31.799 --> 02:17:33.200 that you could pass them while you're out. Well that's what I'm saying. 2231 02:17:33.200 --> 02:17:41.440 While I'm knocked out, have her cut you open, and fuck, let's 2232 02:17:41.440 --> 02:17:43.120 get the morphine going. You'll be fine. Seeing in dead Wood where he's 2233 02:17:43.120 --> 02:17:45.879 passing word it seems like the worst thing in the world. One of my 2234 02:17:46.040 --> 02:17:54.040 roommates had them and was passing them in the kitchen into a cup because he 2235 02:17:54.159 --> 02:17:58.920 was told to like keep track of him or something what. I don't know. 2236 02:17:58.000 --> 02:18:01.680 It was a cup that I like drinking out of. It was really 2237 02:18:01.840 --> 02:18:05.799 it was really fucked up situations all around. That's really messed up. I 2238 02:18:05.959 --> 02:18:07.840 like that cup. You don't like win something if you keep your stones. 2239 02:18:09.000 --> 02:18:13.719 Hey, I I don't know what his situation was period. Better not to 2240 02:18:13.760 --> 02:18:18.559 ask, yeah at this point, all right, One more email from Josh 2241 02:18:18.639 --> 02:18:22.280 and Adelaide Australia. Hey, guys, I'm listening to I'm listening through the 2242 02:18:22.319 --> 02:18:26.479 bomb cast from the beginning, and it's funny to hear Jeff and Ryan talking 2243 02:18:26.520 --> 02:18:31.959 about the band from first to Last being exploited by Guitar Hero and doing a 2244 02:18:31.040 --> 02:18:35.799 tour where they stop the show and play the game live on stage. This 2245 02:18:35.959 --> 02:18:39.440 is funny because the singer went on to become Scrillics. I guess he likes 2246 02:18:39.479 --> 02:18:43.920 the feel of pressing buttons on stage a little too much. Huh wow, 2247 02:18:45.319 --> 02:18:48.239 fact void for you. Yeah, that still sounds That still sounds awful. 2248 02:18:48.319 --> 02:18:54.319 Idea of someone breaking down mid set and playing guitar. I don't remember anything 2249 02:18:54.360 --> 02:18:58.639 about that. Boy. That sounds terrible. I thought i'd throw that in 2250 02:18:58.680 --> 02:19:01.159 there, Steven Jogg, didn't he men? Yeah, no, that's unfortunate 2251 02:19:01.239 --> 02:19:03.799 for Scrix. I wonder he got away from that ship. I don't I 2252 02:19:03.840 --> 02:19:09.200 don't really know exactly what you would have meant about being exploited by a guitar 2253 02:19:09.319 --> 02:19:13.559 Hero. I mean, like the business deal of agreeing to fucking play guitar 2254 02:19:13.680 --> 02:19:16.159 Hero in the middle of your fucking set. Oh, I thought. I 2255 02:19:16.239 --> 02:19:20.079 assume there was some aspect of them having a song in the game or something. 2256 02:19:20.280 --> 02:19:22.600 They may have also, who knows, maybe they also had. They 2257 02:19:22.639 --> 02:19:26.200 probably also sit into the band from first to last. I don't know. 2258 02:19:26.639 --> 02:19:31.360 Before Screlex was SCRELEXA, he was in some bands. Apparently this was news 2259 02:19:31.399 --> 02:19:33.639 to me. I don't remember that from the set list, but who knows. 2260 02:19:33.799 --> 02:19:37.280 Yeah, anyway, it was not the first Guitar Hero was one of 2261 02:19:37.360 --> 02:19:41.079 the Oh oh, okay, all right, oh god, you're right. 2262 02:19:41.120 --> 02:19:43.479 Actually, I guess Guitar Hero would have been around for a little bit before 2263 02:19:43.559 --> 02:19:46.280 that started, right now, I remember, all right, that's it for 2264 02:19:46.360 --> 02:19:50.719 emails, I have the tunnel or open. I'm say, let's do like 2265 02:19:50.920 --> 02:19:58.360 three what do you say? Okay, uh, make it more red in 2266 02:19:58.440 --> 02:20:01.280 here? I have if it's getting if we're gonna get there, it's pretty 2267 02:20:01.280 --> 02:20:05.719 benign this week. Actually, okay, like shockingly actually all right, it's 2268 02:20:05.799 --> 02:20:09.920 actually having a hard time finding. Oh no, now the page won't load. 2269 02:20:11.360 --> 02:20:13.760 Come on Tumblr. I don't even know what this means. Squidly diddly 2270 02:20:13.840 --> 02:20:16.719 or a great pape? Great pape? Is that ringy bells? Yeah? 2271 02:20:16.719 --> 02:20:20.479 Squid did walking squid walking off tops? Great pape? Was it was a 2272 02:20:20.479 --> 02:20:24.920 cartoon? Or was it a great bape? Great Bape's that's wrong? Great 2273 02:20:24.959 --> 02:20:28.239 pape? Except that he except that. Now there's probably stores called vape ape 2274 02:20:31.040 --> 02:20:35.200 and any liquids called a great vapee. Yep, so that's been ruined for 2275 02:20:35.319 --> 02:20:45.920 a generation, for all generations. Congratulations, assholes? Uh darth vapor Jeff? 2276 02:20:46.000 --> 02:20:50.200 How is how is Cody actual coming along? I don't even know what 2277 02:20:50.319 --> 02:20:54.360 that is? It's not okay, Yeah, this question's weird. Well we 2278 02:20:54.440 --> 02:20:58.159 ever see the binary domain license again? No? No, no, no, 2279 02:20:58.440 --> 02:21:05.079 I'll come on on with her big bow. Yeah, sadly, I 2280 02:21:05.159 --> 02:21:07.639 believe we've seen big bows last rodeo. Actually, they should make a game 2281 02:21:07.639 --> 02:21:15.239 called big I would definitely play that. Would you rather be called fam or 2282 02:21:15.280 --> 02:21:20.639 Simpie? Fams Family? What a simpie? That's an anime thing, right, 2283 02:21:20.799 --> 02:21:22.760 Yes, my god, they're both anime things as you try hard. 2284 02:21:22.879 --> 02:21:26.000 Yeah, I don't know, there's Okay, that's a good point, yep, 2285 02:21:26.399 --> 02:21:28.239 I go with fams virtue of not being anime. Okay, sure, 2286 02:21:31.520 --> 02:21:33.760 I want Austin to call me fam. Yeah, that's who can call me 2287 02:21:33.799 --> 02:21:39.200 fam? Okay, what's it? You're putting your foot down? Mm? 2288 02:21:41.680 --> 02:21:43.959 Everybody else can call me SIMPI and I the only one who thinks it's time 2289 02:21:45.000 --> 02:21:48.879 for jazz jack rabbit three. Yeah, there was a time when I thought 2290 02:21:48.920 --> 02:21:52.760 that that would be a great thing to do, and I feel like that 2291 02:21:52.879 --> 02:21:56.600 time that window closed. You're probably right, got that forgot that fancy launcher. 2292 02:21:56.680 --> 02:22:01.120 Now maybe maybe it'll be a character in Paragon. I could be behind 2293 02:22:01.159 --> 02:22:05.120 that. Sure is the Big Show actually the vape king? Yeah? I 2294 02:22:05.120 --> 02:22:07.440 don't even know what that means. I shouldn't have been asked. Big Show 2295 02:22:07.520 --> 02:22:11.719 vapes still my most popular. Took a picture of Big Show vaping at the 2296 02:22:11.760 --> 02:22:16.280 Hall of Fame. Wow, and people seem to really like the man vaping 2297 02:22:16.319 --> 02:22:20.079 and destiny huh like yeah, wow, it's living the life, I guess. 2298 02:22:20.120 --> 02:22:24.280 So sure, get yours Big Show, Dan? Why do you follow 2299 02:22:24.319 --> 02:22:26.440 Donald Trump? Oh? Just to see that bullshit, he says, Okay, 2300 02:22:26.520 --> 02:22:30.040 like just all right, morbid and kind of hate follow the thing, 2301 02:22:30.120 --> 02:22:35.040 you know? Yeah, yeah, great, Uh let's see do you follow 2302 02:22:35.079 --> 02:22:39.680 his vachen sao? Yeah, no, I've got a few hate follows on 2303 02:22:39.760 --> 02:22:43.840 there. Yeah. Numerous people asked this week if Kanye West is the modern 2304 02:22:43.920 --> 02:22:50.399 day Andy Kaufman. No, No, he's not self aware in doing this 2305 02:22:50.479 --> 02:22:54.760 on perfect Yeah. Or I mean he might be, but not to a 2306 02:22:54.920 --> 02:22:58.600 level that any comment was doing a very different thing. This is not this 2307 02:22:58.680 --> 02:23:03.520 is not that sure. All right, that's gonna do it for all of 2308 02:23:03.600 --> 02:23:07.680 our correspondence for the week and thus the podcast. This room isn't exceptionally red. 2309 02:23:09.600 --> 02:23:11.639 We're gonna have to get out of here before we burn to death. 2310 02:23:11.920 --> 02:23:15.639 Are you turning up the intensity of these lives? I feel like I feel 2311 02:23:15.639 --> 02:23:18.680 like I'm seeing you're watching the lights do things and it's terrifying. Oh things 2312 02:23:18.799 --> 02:23:22.239 like oh no, don't you Okay, we definitely have to go down. 2313 02:23:22.360 --> 02:23:26.280 It's that's it for the jib bodcast. My damn tongue, that's oh my 2314 02:23:26.360 --> 02:23:28.879 god, thinks every color all at once. I think I'm gonna throw up 2315 02:23:28.920 --> 02:23:31.120 right now. Instagram does a video, right boy, It does. Yeah, 2316 02:23:31.280 --> 02:23:33.680 well I have to get out of this room now, So thanks for 2317 02:23:33.760 --> 02:23:37.079 listening. It's gonna do it for the Giant Bodcasts. See you next week. 2318 02:23:37.120 --> 02:23:37.959 Thanks bye, see then,