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Not five miles an hour riding too
his head. He hopping down first with

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the lump bonius face, and on
the very next pitch he up and stole

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second phase with gretest be he wasn't
born, he had yes uniform. Welcome

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to episode fourteen of The Prospect.
Besides podcast, I Am Nate Handy joined

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once again as always the star of
the show. Nat aka the Rookie aka

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grew Nats in my minions, We're
coming for you, Nate. How was

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your holiday? My man who's good? Got a chance to see some family.

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We took the cross country flight for
us, which was an ordeal,

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but made it and ended up having
a delightful week full of too much food

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and just enough family to keep it
keep it interesting right on fantastic. My

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highlight was Thanksgiving afternoon. You know, my life, I basically basically lived

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in sweatpants and scrub pants. So
I'll bust out some dress slacks every once

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in a while, and I did, so they didn't fit me, by

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the way. You know. I
had some like I'm like, oh,

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what's in the pocket here? And
I had like a washed packet gum.

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So that was a mess. So
I clean that out of the pocket.

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I feel my back pocket and what
do you know, there's like three hundred

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and sixty seven bucks in that back
pocket. What's awesome. Yeah, man,

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that made that made my day.
Yeah, that was probably my highlight.

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That and just overeating. That's phenomenal, I think, you know,

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it was great seeing my family.
That was a lot of fun. We

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went to visit my family for the
holidays and went as well as it could

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could have gone. But I was
really jonesing to play tennis. It had

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been a week and I hadn't played, you know, real tennis. I'd

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gone out a couple of times just
to hit around and practice serving or whatever.

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But I was like jonesing, and
I was like counting down the data.

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So I was coming home and like
lining up, you know, going

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to play this day and this day
and this day and get back into it.

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But then I met somebody out there
who he was like, ah,

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yeah, I'm free Tuesday morning.
You want to hit And it was so

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fun. We got to play on
a clay court and it was really really

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nice resort in my family's hometown and
it was awesome. So like that was

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actually low key the highlight of the
trip, other than seeing family of course.

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Yeah, getting to sneak in some
tennis and nice play court which I

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never get to play on. That
was so fun. Yeah, what was

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that like, sliding around a bunch
and stuff. Yeah, slots of sliding

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around the ball just changes so differently. You know, we did this a

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little bit in baseball because we would
play at place like Arizona and Arizona State

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which have very very hard desert dirt
ground, you know, and real real

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grass and the ball. I don't
know if everybody knows this, but when

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the ball comes to the outfield,
the ball snakes if you're in if it's

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in grass, and the grass has
been mode in different directions, like if

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they do a pattern out there.
And when I first I think we played

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Arizona State at Arizona State my freshman
year and I'm out there during warmups,

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during infield outfield warmups, and I
just completely whiffed on the ball to throw

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home because the ball was snaking so
much and I had never seen that before,

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and so I was just rattled the
whole rest of the time out there

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because like at our field was just
only turf and the ball just bounces the

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same every time, and so it
reminded me of that playing tennis on clay,

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that it's so different a surface than
playing on hardcourt. And I thought

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about that, like, Oh,
it's like kind of the difference between going

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from our very true bouncy field turf
to real grass, where like it hits

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the dirt and it's concrete and then
it hits the grass and its snaking all

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over the place. It was crazy. Well, so, if you haven't

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been listening along, Matt and I
are getting really really dirty, really muddy,

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really grimy. And we have watched
video trying to find some prospects that

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may be worth paying attention to,
maybe worth picking up in hopes of perhaps

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finding a gem, something that will
be useful to our major league dynasty clubs

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or useful on the trade table.
We have been going division by division,

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and today we are going to be
talking about the National League Central. Some

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of the players we did like a
little draft the very first episode of this

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little process, and we did take
some n All Central players. But let's

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do it, Matt, what team
do you want to talk about first?

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Well, let's go talk about that
best team in Chicago, the Cubs.

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Let's start with them first. Oh, this will be simple, the Cubs

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suck. They are a bunch of
losers. You don't need to roster any

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other players. All right, what
are we doing next? They've got a

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couple of guys that are worth talking
about. Although I did find that the

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Cubs and one other team in the
Central I found a little tougher to be

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side. But we've got a couple
little nuggets in here. When I was

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a kid growing up in Chicago,
my dad took me to this, like

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over the weekend baseball camp. Right, it was called the Billy Williams whatever

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hitting camp or something, right,
And not that I ever would have been

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a good hitter, but I blame
that camp for ruining me, or ruining

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what could have been. They taught
us to literally swing down at the ball,

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to swing down at the ball because
ground balls and line drives are better

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than popping it up. Right.
I had a lot of coaches tell me

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the same thing. Yeah. So, watching the Cubs minor leagues for the

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last couple of seasons, particularly in
the lower miners, it is like and

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and I bring up that story because
I can't, I can't help not think

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about it. I mean, it
was ran by Cubs coaches at that time.

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This is a long time ago,
so I don't know if anyone is

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still affiliated with the organization, But
man, these guys hit so many ground

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balls ground Ball Factory, at least
a lot of the guys that I was

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digging on there, they signed these
international guys who hit a lot of ground

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balls. So I imagine, you
know what, you sign a lot of

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those guys when they're well like fourteen
fifteen years older contract they're going to so

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I mean a lot of their development
has got to be influenced by the Cubs.

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And then on top of that,
I also noticed that they like to

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draft some Puerto Rican preps in later
rounds that also like to hit a lot

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of ground balls. So I don't
know, did you notice that as well,

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Matt. I didn't notice the ground
ball tendencies as much, although a

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lot of the guys that I washed
for on the hitter side for the Cubs

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were more of that line line,
drive oriented set. So I do see.

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I do see that a bit,
and I think might be a product

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of like you said, where they're
acquiring talent and maybe a bit about the

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historic approach to minor league development.
Perhaps, Yeah, I don't know,

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I don't know. If that's like
how they how they're teaching it, or

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how they want them. I don't
know a little bit of B side history

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here. I have to say which
which is very fitting. The Cubs may

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be the most frustrating organization for me. I will not say that I have

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totally quit him either, but jo
Hendrick Pinango has been a favorite of mine

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for a few years now. The
question who's someone who might end up a

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top one hundred prospect this year?
Like he was kind of one of my

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go tos for that question, and
like we were talking about very very good

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contact skills and strikeout kind of sprays
the ball over the place. But the

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big knack was, well, you
know, is he ever going to hit

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any home runs? Be cause he
not good defensively, He's like left field

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are at best. Probably he's not
very big either. But then twenty twenty

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two, like the first half I
felt like it was happening. He started

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hitting home runs, He was on
par with any other left hand hitter at

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High A that season, producing the
likes of Sadderstrom that year, and then

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just completely fell off a cliff.
I think it was injury related. I

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was excited this year and he was
awful. He was still awful until I

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don't know, maybe he turned it
around and got respectable the last third of

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the season. So I don't know
what's going on there, Matt. Maybe

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it was just a bad call on
my part, maybe too much wishful thinking.

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But I still wonder if it's just
been an injury, like a risk

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thing with him. So I don't
know. We'll see. So he has

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kind of been my Cubs bat B
side for a couple of years. I

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think, well, I guess,
uh, well with BJ Murray last year,

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that turned out okay. He went
to the futures game and got a

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little bit more popular. I don't
know what his roster rate is at the

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moment. He turned into a pretty
solid year, and I think his roster

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rate was above where we generally liked
to sit because you know, I liked

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what he did this year. But
you know, I don't have any like

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super huge hopes or expectations. But
I think he's a corner infielder who could

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get some major league run yeah,
and has some solid skills all around.

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You know, I thought that was
a nice pick. And to go back

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to Penango, you sold me on
him last year. I think you wrote

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him up, maybe as a follow
up to the previous years b sides,

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and I was like, yeah,
I'd been watching him and he had started

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the year really well, and so
I went to ad him, and that

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day my main rifle in one of
my long dynasty leagues had also added him.

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So he's been on my shitless since
because I was like, I was

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gonna add him, and then I
got scooped and then he wasn't very good

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the rest of the year. So
maybe he did you have a favor.

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It's just interesting to me that I
will just absolutely rake and then just just

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struggle at the same level as hard
as he struggled. So I don't know,

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maybe something fishy there, maybe maybe
just not gonna happen. Last season

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started doing pictures and I selected Tyler
Schlaefer, who did not pitch at all

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this season because of Tommy John he
was a part of. It was a

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very good twenty twenty two Myrtle Beach
rotation included Luke Little Porter, Hodge,

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Louis Devers, and Richard Gallardo.
Watching that rotation a decent amount kind of

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felt like Schlaefer was kind of on
par with with all of those guys,

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like Devers, and Hodge felt a
lot of the production was from a secondary

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in his case of changeup that was
really just kind of too good for the

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level. And I have been sort
of interested in quite a few Cubs pitchers

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in the lowers the last couple of
years, and I think for maybe all

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of them, a good amount of
them, I feel like the game,

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the success at a ball maybe even
high a basically off of having like a

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really good secondary, and they've kind
of just fizzled out some or got traded

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away, or at least I have
not kept up the same level of interest

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in them as they've moved up.
With Schlafler, I don't have any like

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super big expectations or excitement, but
his fastball did have a little heat,

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little movement, and I felt like
he was kind of maybe starting to spin

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it better. We'll see where Schlaefer
ends up in twenty twenty four and how

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and how he fares. But I've
got a new B side pitcher here that

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caught my eye, and that's a
twenty twenty two undrafted free agent out of

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Yale by the name of Grant Kip. Have you watched any Kip Matt.

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I did watch a little bit of
Kip Okay, now again, I'm gonna

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tempt This is just kind of a
watchless guy for me. I ain't going

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out and getting any shares as Kip
anytime soon. But he struck me.

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You know, he's a big righty
six two hundred and twenty pounds. They

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have him listed ass pretty smooth and
athletic actions. He's got the full fastball,

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slider, changed curveball kit that he
can really mix and execute pretty dang

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good at times. The velocity on
the fastball, and I wonder about the

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quality of it to the shape might
be the big limitter here for Pip.

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I think the fastball probably only gets
up to about ninety one, maybe ninety

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two. But you know, it's
hard. It's hard for me to tell

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my couch. He did get some
whiffs with it, but I wonder that's

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just kind of more level stuff.
And I don't know if that play is

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quite like that as he moves along, but he does remind me a bit

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of a few pictures. I was
actually just chatting about last night Bryce Jarvis

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and Darius Vines and that these guys
over the last couple of years have legit

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pitched some of the prettiest innings,
prettiest outings, prettiest at bats I've seen

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in the minor leagues. Now,
those guys have not proven to be consistent

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with that, but the arsenal,
you know, Kip's arsenal probably has less

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teeth than those guys, but do
think he is more consistent with these stretches

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of just like really pretty execution.
He pitches fairly aggressively and he efficiently,

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which you know, might explain the
rougher numbers as he got promoted to HIA

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for five starts. You know,
that stuff might not play in the zone

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as aggressively as well against the lower
level hitter. But I wonder if Kit

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hesit in them to get to that
sort of execution, that the whole package

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can play well, and if you
might just have a shot to go from

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undrafted free agent to a major league
starter. I like that. I think

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he's an interesting follow, like you
said, not somebody that wowed me when

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I got to look at him,
but enough interesting stuff there that it'll be

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interesting to see how he fares as
he rises up the ranks a little bit,

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you know, like I said,
just some pretty just landing, some

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you know, mixing the whole repertoire
fairly well and just stretches where he's just

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landing this stuff just like right on
the edges, you know, Gallon esque

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sort of sort of prettiness. His
numbers on the air well, I don't

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think there was anything super eye popping
in either direction. One point three four

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whip over like what he got in
ninety eight ninety nine innings. Oh,

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he struck out nine point five eight
per nine, walked three point one nine.

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Now, I know Myrtle Beach is
supposed to be a good place for

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pitchers to hit, so keep that
in mind. And like I said,

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there's there's been a lot of guys
at Myrtle Beach who kind of caught my

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interests and then it didn't last.
Yeah, I don't know Grant Kimp,

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big, tall, righty, not
super powerful, but he might be able

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to play the whole kitchen sink well
and to get good hitters out. You're

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getting pretty loose with your Gallon comps. I think this is the third guy

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I've seen you talk about today who
might be Gallon. So let's uh,

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let's keep let's keep it. Well. I don't like the true major league

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ace's names out of your mouth a
little bit. That's a that's a reason

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for kip anyway. Yeah, I
don't mean, I don't just you know

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what I'm saying. Well, guys
are executing on the edges consistently at a

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high clip for or at least stretches. I like to call that the George

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Kirby. But you know your mileage
might vary. You know, that's okay,

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I can, I can, I
can be flexible there. Well,

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I'm going to go another sort of
unherlded direction and go with Brodie McCullough.

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Did you watch any McCullough. Don't
think so. If I did, I

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didn't. If I did, I
didn't keep them on my little list here.

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Yeah, McCullough is someone I had
pretty serious consideration for our pitcher draft.

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He was one of my just missed
so I know him, kind of

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in on him. Yeah, a
D two draftee. He only pitched one

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year in college and then got drafted
in twenty twenty two in the tenth round.

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You know, one hundred grand signing
bonus dominated for D two wing.

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Gate College didn't know when Gate College
was a thing, but Bertie McCullough did,

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and struck out almost sixteen per nine
as a starter there really was impressive.

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Barely pitched after he got drafted last
year, you know that makes sense,

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a grand total of seven innings last
year, but the k's seemed to

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still be there. And then across
Myrtle Beach a ball and south bend put

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up a really strong overall line thirty
point eight percent strikeout rate, eight point

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eight percent walk rate, both comfortably
above average. He runs it up there

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with four plus pitches and probably plus
in the sense of like they're better than

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most of the other minor leaguers that
we see. My notes on him are

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all of his pitches looked good,
which might mean for our purposes that he

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has three or four major league average
kind of pitches, and that that combined

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is as sort of a sum of
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bit. He did struggle a little
more at high a South Bend than he

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did at Myrtle Beach, As you
mentioned, Myrtle Beach a little bit better

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place to pitch. Overall, the
numbers were interesting, and then watching him,

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I kind of don't really get people
aren't on him. You know,

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he's six' four, runs it
up to ninety six, ninety seven I

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think I caught one or two ninety
seven's, but mostly in the ninety two

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to five range on the fastball.
But it looks like great extension. I

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mean, just watching him his I
don't have the stat cast data on this,

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but to my eye, it looked
like he got all of that six

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foot four frame down the mound.
He's got kind of a longer armstroke,

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so maybe that plays into the visual
evaluation of it too, but with that

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extension, it looked like even at
ninety two, he was getting a ton

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of whiffs on his fastball. His
main breakers are a slider in the eighty

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three to eighty five range and then
a changeup that's also in the eighty three

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to eight or five range, but
they just go in opposite directions. I

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think that helps them both play up
with that sort of pitch tunneling. So

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I really want to see this guy's
heat map, you know, from a

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stat cast view, because to me, what it looks like is he's getting

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plus extension down the mound, and
the four seam fastball looks very straight,

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kind of true backspin run, and
then his two off speeds break from that

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same point in opposite directions, and
I think that it helps all three of

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the pitches play up. My looks
at him too, the command was solid,

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you know, limited walks a decent
amount. But I also thought he

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pitched to the zone quite well.
If it was his slider when he missed,

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it was missing off the plate in
a place that wasn't going to hurt

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him. Change up the other side
of the plate where it wasn't going to

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hurt him, and he was trying
to locate that fastball up pretty well.

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So I actually quite liked him.
You know. Again, my hesitation and

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why I bumped him down my prioritization
list when we did our picture draft was

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just that the walks ticked up and
the cas ticked down at high in his

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first taste. And I expect he'll
start there in South Bend again next year.

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But if we see him next year
and the stuff starts to play and

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the execution is still there, he
could be a quick riser. I really

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did like what I saw, and
for someone that just has no heat,

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I mean, is not ranked on
ba's thirty Chris Clegg zero, no rank

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for him. You know, it's
like these guys are going deep and he's

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not being talked about. And I
actually really liked him as an arm.

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What was his walk grade on the
season, eight point eight percent. That's

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not the worst I've ever seen,
No, And it was plus at Myrtle

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Beach three per nine, so,
you know, not great, but definitely

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acceptable. And then at South Bend
it was three and a half, so,

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you know, still in spitting distance
of being good. It's just the

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strikeouts ticked down a little bit.
I think he had some batted ball luck

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maybe you know, left on base
and batted ball luck. We're okay,

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So had a solid year and I'm
really interested to see how he starts out

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next year because the stuff, to
mim, I looked actually good. And

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you know, me, I'm not
really the biggest stuffest out there, but

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this guy, for someone that has
very little helium touching ninety seven getting whiffs

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on the heater, I was like, this might be a real arm.

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Yeah, that sounds like I'm actually
kind of mad that got by me.

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Huh, I'm gonna have to turn
on some video. There was the roster

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percentage, you know or what was
it September? Okay, good one there,

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rook. Wait and he was tall
too, man, that's six four

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strapping line, you know, you
were making fun of me, But that's

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really just on the hitter side.
All my pictures are like big beefy boys.

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So I don't know, I don't
know if there if there's any other

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pictures you wanted to mention. I
kind of watched a little bit of Luis

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Ruhano and Cohen Moreno, but man, the walks, it's just it's just

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too much. It's too much for
me to care too much about them down

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in a ball walking everybody. Yeah, similar, still deal with me.

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The other couple of guys that I
looked at, just the walks were out

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of control and supposedly supposed to be
on the cutting edge of helping coach command

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these days. So yeah, I
don't right. I mean, you look

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at you, look at Luke,
little Ben Brown, Jackson Ferris, like

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every one of those guys has a
walk problem. And I'm kind of concerned

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about all of those sort of like
higher profile arms in the CUB system.

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You know. The only one that
seems to have been better than I thought

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they were going to be is Horton. And Horton, now, you know,

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kind of widely viewed as a top
five or ten pitching prospect, and

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I was not on him coming out
of college. I thought he was a

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little bit overhyped, but he's showed
me that I didn't know what I was

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talking about at all. He's pretty
good. Yeah, well, we'll see,

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we'll see. The only other guy
that I wanted to just mention is

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Marino Santi another a ball pitcher in
Myrtle Beach who you probably came across him

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a little bit. Again, the
walks are too much. He's a lefty,

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and he just has like a wild
amount of movement on his slider.

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So while I don't think he's got
the command to stick in the rotation,

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he's someone that I think is pretty
high probability big leaguer, just like based

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on that slider alone, Like he's
gonna be a lefty guy in the bigs

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if he can even shave like two
percent off of his walks, like they're

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that slider was nasty. Yeah,
it is, it is. I did

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watch a little of him. All
right, let's move on to the hitters,

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huh, I had. I don't
know if this is really cheating,

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and I haven't done this yet,
You've probably done it a bazillion times,

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but I'm gonna creep up that I'm
kidding about the bazilion times, but I'm

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creeping up to three percent raster percentage
when I pulled it in September because I

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just didn't really like a lot here. I watched some like ezekiel' Plagan,

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Lanel Espinoza, Luis Vasquez, the
young Mexican infielder Ravage Garcia, and all

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those guys are just again it's just
the ground ball, just beating everything into

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the ground and little I'm gonna go
with Pedro Ramirez with a teenager Myrtle Beach

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second base, third base. Ramirez, nineteen year old Venezuelan signs in twenty

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twenty one, had a pretty nice
season, particularly down the stretch. From

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July twenty fifth to September fifteen,
one hundred and seventy six played appearances.

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He hit three thirty six four forty
nine slugged five twenty five with six home

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runs sole seven bases during that span. Now, Ramirez, I it's probably

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definitely more of a you know,
contact guy than a slugger's. He's not

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very big. I don't know where
they have him listed at like five nine,

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I think, but I did see
him hit a pretty impressive opposite field

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home run from the left side,
maybe some power potential. I really liked

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the look of him just at the
plate. Mechanically, he's pretty still and

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calm, especially from the left side. I didn't watch a whole ton of

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him from the right side. Didn't
strike out very much seventeen percent, he

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walked twelve percent of the time.
On the season, he hit two sixty

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six slugged four h four. Like
I said, I think he was getting

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to a little bit more pop down
the stretch. Defensively, I can't say

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I really know too much second base, third base at nineteen years old.

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I don't know what you want to
make of that as far as sticking up

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the middle. But like I said, as far as all my choices,

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went about to Pedro Ramirez the most
and cheated a little bit to get him

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on here. No, I think
this is a good pick. He was

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my runner up, and I agree
with everything you said. I think he's

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got a solid hit tool. I
like his swings both of the left side,

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and I got a few of the
right side too, and I thought

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that it is pretty similar. Just
still head, good hands, not a

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lot of power here, but there's
quite a lot in common for me with

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a guy like James Treantos, who's
way more well regarded, but their I

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think profile as pretty similar guys.
You know, Tiantos probably strikes out even

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less, but other than that,
like they both sort of have limited power,

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some speed, somewhat questionable defensive home
I did get a couple of so

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I watched quite a few of the
Cubs pitchers trying to find someone good,

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and Pedro Ramirez seemed like a second
base only to me, just seemed like

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the arm wasn't quite there and they
weren't playing him at the stop. And

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you know, I think he's probably
a two b only guy, but I

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liked him a lot. I think
he's a good hitter. Oh no,

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yeah, so like he too.
His ground ball rate was fifty one percent,

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not the greatest, but I watched
him much more during that hotter streak

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the second half of the season.
I don't know, he didn't strike me

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as as a guy who wasn't hitting
the ball in the air, at least

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not like some of some of his
teammates and other guys. I was watching

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a line line drive rate of twenty
two percent, not too bad. Pedro

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Ramirez felt significantly more interesting than than
the other options. Yeah, No,

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he's got a good hit tool,
and he'd take an infielder with a solid

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hit tool and dream on a little
bit more. Now, I like that

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pick, but another small Venezuelan that
I just want to see hit the ball

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in the air more like, Hey, we're living this again. Yeah,

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and while you're taking a five foot
eight, tiny little minion, I'm going

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for a behemoth, six foot slugger
shortstop Luis Vasquez. Oh what is happening.

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We're going to call you grue after
this. But now I'm taking Luis

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Vasquez here again. I I a
lot of what you said. I think

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the top end of the CUB system
is remains really solid, but I think

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we're going to see all of them
graduate in the next year and a lot

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of what remains not great b side
hunting grounds on the hitter side. Basquez,

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he does seem like he could stick
it short. That's a problem when

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you've got Dancy Swanson signed for another
half decade or whatever it is. But

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he really I think can pick it. I saw some really nice plays,

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and I think he's got good reviews
from other sources about his defense this year.

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While he does have a bit of
the ground ball problem that you've noted

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from other Cubs hitters. He he
had a really interesting line at Double A,

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which was about half of his year, where he struck out a little

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more and walked a little bit less, typically things I don't like very much,

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but his batted ball profile was kind
of transformed, and he was hitting

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the ball in the air. He
was pulling those balls in the air,

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and he hit eleven homers in half
a season, so that's like a twenty

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to twenty five homer pace at the
big league level, and it seemed real

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like it didn't seem like he was
overperforming anything. He just like started pulling

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the fly balls and was being a
little more aggressive on that. And I

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liked that he regressed a little bit
to form at Triple A when he spent

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the second half of the year there, but still put up nine homers and

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stole six bags and reduced his strikeout
rate to twenty percent, which is like

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that's solid, especially walking fourteen percent
of the time. But he was hitting

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the ball on the ground a little
bit more and still pulling his fly balls.

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I think that's how he got to
his nine home without having a real

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plus hit tool or plus power but
I don't know. He's a guy,

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you know, low draft pick that
has kicked around their minors for she'sh seven

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years now and seems like a high
probability big leaguer, probably not an impact

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one, but just with the high
probability of playing defensive at the top level

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and what seemed like some interesting traits, I went with Luis Fasquez. Yeah,

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I think that's I think that's solid. I'm not super excited about it,

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you know, but he's he's okay. Yeah, Well, being super

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excited about anything. Cubs isn't really
a thing. My second team when I

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was a young lad, the Nasty
Boys, Barry Larka and Eric Davis.

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God, I love those teams.
Cincinnati Reds can't say that it's been the

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most successful B side hunting ground.
I know, you and I probably my

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fault. We're getting a little interest. And Alex McGarry last year, their

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twenty twenty two Minor league hitter of
the Year, just didn't really have a

407
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:11.240
very good season. Started off in
Triple A and was struggle bus. I

408
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.559
went back down to Double A and
got it back together. But I'm not

409
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:22.319
super excited about Alex McGary's fantasy upside
here, but we did have a good

410
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.359
success in Julian agu Are with our
pitching selection. I think probably out of

411
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.119
all of all the pitching selections from
last year, I think he's the most

412
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:34.440
exciting of the bunch. Yeah.
He really backed up last year with Estellar

413
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:38.759
this year and a Yar is awesome. Yeah, so our big b side

414
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:45.359
pitching success story jumped from like zero
percent to four percent. Woop woop,

415
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.400
yep. I'm not going to get
into the bat that I picked. I

416
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:53.519
picked Ethan O'Donnell, who we talked
about during the hitter draft episode, and

417
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.440
maybe I'll talk about him a little
bit more during our first year player draft

418
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:00.960
episode. But in part in why
I went with the first year of players

419
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:06.319
because I honestly didn't have any Reds
bats that I was really super excited about.

420
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.920
I know, trout Wine is a
bit interesting and he had I think

421
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.720
a pretty decent Arizona Fall League,
but overall, I just kind of thought

422
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:15.680
o'donnald's upside was a little bit more
exciting. So, so what do you

423
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:22.720
got bat wise for US man?
Well, join me in military service here,

424
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:27.599
because I'm picking Army Zone Jacob.
I don't even know how to pronounce

425
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:33.319
his last name be her two beasts. I know I didn't check out preference

426
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.119
for this. I feel like I've
heard it a few ways, all right,

427
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:41.640
Jacob Hurdabas he was a twenty nineteen
draftee. Herd Obies is one of

428
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:47.119
these like guys who is so weird. You watch him hit and you're like,

429
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:52.200
that can't be a major league or
a minor league professional hitter. It's

430
00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:59.920
a super stiff swing that seems like
he's following that advice that you got for

431
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:03.480
from those Cubs instructors all those years
ago, where he's really chopping down on

432
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:07.880
the ball. Doesn't look like an
athlete really, you know, he's sort

433
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.759
of call him, you know,
six foot one eighty, but he looks

434
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.680
kind of doey. I'd say,
I don't know if that's a fair call,

435
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:19.519
but he makes it work. Man. I just think that because he's

436
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:25.279
got no power and this swing is
so janky, that everybody has sort of

437
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:30.400
overlooked what he does really, really
well, and that is control the strike

438
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:33.680
zone. He doesn't swing at balls. He'll swing it strikes, but he'll

439
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.799
foul him off and hit line drives. He sprays all over the yard,

440
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.519
so unlike a lot of guys that
I like who are elevate and celebrate,

441
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.680
pull a ball in the air and
hit a homer, he's almost the exact

442
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.359
opposite of it. And at times
his swing has reminded me a little bit

443
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:55.119
of Jose Ramirez. Now obviously the
super different players in a lot of ways,

444
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:59.400
but there's something about the way that
he swings that reminds me of that

445
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:04.319
high con contact spray approach that I
think of when I think of Jose Ramirez.

446
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.680
And he just turned in one of
the best hitting lines in the minor

447
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:13.559
leagues last year, and for someone
that was what one percent one percent owned

448
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.799
last year, I was like,
this is an actual find. I think

449
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:21.599
he had a really good AFL too. Yeah, yeah, I think he

450
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.799
was all right. But the guy
made it up to Triple A and in

451
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:31.079
his third professional season, splitting time
most of the season at Double A and

452
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:34.839
then the end of the year the
last thirty six games at Triple A.

453
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:40.880
But he on the year had check
out this line three point thirty four seventy

454
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:45.519
nine for eighty two was a triple
slotch and that's all at Double A and

455
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.839
Triple A. And it's not like
he's playing in the PCL for that time.

456
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.839
This is the International League, so
it's like not great hitting environments,

457
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:59.799
but he stole forty five bags.
So definitely someone that's going to play up

458
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:05.799
the even more in categories or a
roto league. But that line is pretty

459
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.200
special. Walk seventeen percent of the
time and only struck out thirteen point eight

460
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:14.279
percent of the time, good for
a one sixty three WRC plus on the

461
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:17.880
year and over four hundred and fifty
five played appearances. That's tough to fake.

462
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.839
At double A like that is truly
one of the best lines in the

463
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.799
minor leagues last year and one percent
ownership. So because he's goofy looking,

464
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:34.160
his swing doesn't look pretty and he
doesn't hit homers, I think he's just

465
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:38.200
so underrated. But this seems like
a guy that they're gonna give run to

466
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:43.880
in the outfield next year or trade
him to somebody who has an opening and

467
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.160
see if they have can can get
something out of him. But Steamer agrees

468
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:52.839
with me. Projects ninety eight WRC
plus again for a one percent ownership.

469
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:59.319
Guy who was a senior draft out
of Army three years ago twenty twenty one

470
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:04.079
draft like that is almost unheard of. I would say, like he was

471
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.960
also a just missed for my hitters. I think I ended up coin flipping

472
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.079
between him and Krim at the end
of the draft, and in retrospect,

473
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:14.400
after Steamer's projections came out, I
was like, fuck, I should have

474
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.840
just gotten because his projection was so
good, and but it was because my

475
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.920
looks at him. I got fooled, kind of like everybody else, because

476
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:28.119
he just doesn't look like anything that
anybody else does, you know. So

477
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.760
I'm kind of on it again.
He's one that I'm excited about because it's

478
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:37.960
just so unorthodox and I love it
when those kinds of guys perform and produce.

479
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.800
So, yeah, Jacob heard a
bees. I think he's He's something.

480
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:43.119
I wish I would have been a
little bit more vocal about this,

481
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.239
but I had a feeling that's where
you were going to go, and I

482
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:50.599
was I did telegraphed this one,
did you Maybe maybe you said something at

483
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:52.079
some point. I don't know,
but that's why I didn't mention him as

484
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:58.119
some other guys I looked at.
But I am one guilty of seeing him

485
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.880
seeing he heard a beast, little
hurt let's call him the little hurt little

486
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.639
Hurt. I like it. I've
seen him on video first before I saw

487
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.599
any of his numbers, and I
was like, I don't know what this

488
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.480
is. This is this looks weird
and I didn't even know that he that

489
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.480
he didn't hit home runs, but
I kind of just rote him off just

490
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:17.239
from that. I was like,
this is too goofy for me. Then

491
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:21.079
when he started doing some things in
the AFO, I went back and then

492
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.519
looked at the numbers, and this
was after we had even drafted and stuff,

493
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:27.199
and I was like, oh,
this is kind of interesting. So

494
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.239
I like that you went here,
kudos. I think it's a good call.

495
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:35.400
One hundred and sixty some WRC plus
and and a lot of that was

496
00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:38.760
on the back of a pretty high
babeb you know, his triple A babbitb

497
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:44.760
was well over four hundred. But
I still like the twenty one percent walk

498
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:46.920
rate, ten percent Kate Raid at
triple A, Like, yeah, knock

499
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:52.440
him down one hundred points of babbit
and that's still a pretty interesting line.

500
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:57.079
So yeah, what do they got
into it? What do they have them?

501
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:01.039
Have him listed at size west six
foot This is like a giant for

502
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:07.480
you, just because he's got such
a busted ass swing that there everybody else

503
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.719
ignored him. You have to find
the tiny guys to find any edge.

504
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:15.000
But now heard a beast. I'm
telling you, I think that this is

505
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:20.840
a guy who's a major league regular
and will play a lot for somebody soon,

506
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:22.159
you know. So that's the kind
of guy. Like one percent.

507
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:27.159
Would not be surprised if this is
like ten percent next year, maybe more.

508
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.960
Yeah. I really came down to
two arms here, and that was

509
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:37.280
Jared Lyons and Hunter Parks. This
is very much not my personal style.

510
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.880
Twenty two year old right hand pitcher
spent the whole season in hya. He

511
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.480
was a twenty twenty one eighth round
pick out of Junior College. I believe

512
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:51.000
South Carolina well eighty innings this year. No, yes, I think eighty

513
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:55.239
innings this year in twenty two starts. I first started catching him tuning in

514
00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.000
to ag you are. They were
together for most of the season. But

515
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:07.719
Parks, man, this is such
a tease and such a frustrating profile because

516
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:16.480
he is nasty. His whole arsenal
just looks ridiculous. But he's wild man.

517
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:21.639
He walks, he hits guys,
he throws, and it's usually armside

518
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:25.119
where everything just can get away.
So him hit a few guys and get

519
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:31.199
all, you know, have a
little hold me back fests. On a

520
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:37.639
few occasions he was six point seven
eight walks per nine And I get that

521
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.239
is why I have not watched any
of him. Yeah, and I get,

522
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:44.880
and I get how that can just
be a non starter, right,

523
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:46.800
guys like this, I'm gonna cap
but it can how good it can ever

524
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:51.519
get. But there are stretches where
like I'm like, okay, all right,

525
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:53.360
man, you got this. And
then for a couple of innings he

526
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:58.000
will completely dominate for a few innings
at a time. Now I don't know.

527
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.159
Then he comes out next time and
everything's on and off again. But

528
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:07.159
it's interesting because the motion, the
whole delivery and everything. And I'm no

529
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.280
expert in this, but it doesn't
feel like it should be that hard to

530
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:15.760
have better command. And I looked
back at some older film with him,

531
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:21.199
and I think the Reds have shortened
up his arm action some perhaps to help

532
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.639
with all of this. His start
on August fourth, he struck out six

533
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:28.760
of his last seven hitters. And
this is the thing with him, like

534
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:31.079
he strikes out a lot of guys, looking I don't know. It kind

535
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:36.079
of seems like with all of his
offerings, but particularly the change up,

536
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.679
like like guys just don't have a
chance, they're just done. And I

537
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.519
don't know, Matt, how do
you feel about this? I know,

538
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.519
hitching ninja and all that stuff.
Everyone loves whiffs, but to me,

539
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:52.440
there's something about and a lot of
parks strikeouts too. It'll be like three,

540
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:57.000
four or five pitches, probably rarely
three pitches, four or five pitches,

541
00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:00.039
and it's not just the last one
that they're looking at. I've seen

542
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:07.519
them three looking strikes, different pitches. Something about a strikeout looking, just

543
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.360
as I get older, becomes becomes
sexier to me. I don't know,

544
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:17.239
well, I know I personally have
an emotional reaction when I see a strikeout

545
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:22.679
looking, especially on a fastball away, because that was our college's two strike

546
00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:29.119
approach in quotation marks, which was
look for a fastball away as anything else

547
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:31.239
and spoil it and striking out looking
was the worst thing you could do.

548
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:37.679
And of course that fastball away the
umpires and college are of variable quality.

549
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:42.239
I remember one time striking out looking
on a fastball away at Rice, and

550
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:46.239
this pitch was like nine inches off
the plate. Outside. But of course

551
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:52.079
to our dugout, it looked like
I just took a perfectly placed strike out,

552
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.280
you know, fastball in the outside
corner, and I got reamed for

553
00:39:55.400 --> 00:40:00.199
this. Our hitting coach, our
head coach were like yelling me about benching

554
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:04.880
me because I took this pitch strike
out looking away. And Matt, a

555
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:09.880
lot of these strikeouts looking particularly this
outing are right on right change ups too,

556
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.519
which ooh, I love that,
I know, I know. And

557
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:20.199
his fastball gets to the upper nineties
and it holds through the whole outings maybe,

558
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.079
and this, you know, this
is very unique. There are several

559
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.840
outings where the velocity ticked up his
last inning. You don't see that a

560
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:30.880
whole lot. Here's here's my question
for you though about parks. You know,

561
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:37.400
the command is obviously of concern,
But if the stuff is so good,

562
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.480
why only the twenty four point six
percent strikeout rate. That's a great

563
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:45.800
question. I was going to bring
that up as well. Maybe because guys

564
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:47.920
can just sit there and spin on
stuff and know that they're gonna walk.

565
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.760
I don't know. Well with with
the wildness too, is wildness in the

566
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.679
zone. There was some there was
some hard contact at times. You can

567
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.360
give up very many home runs,
I don't think, but that's I mean,

568
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.079
that's a great question. His strike
percentage on the season was fifty eight

569
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.559
percent, which is awful, but
like low, he's got a low eighties

570
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:13.119
slider. Now here's another thing that
that ninetieth Percentile podcasts with Jeff Ponts,

571
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:16.400
they were just talking about this,
and I couldn't help but think about Parks.

572
00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:22.760
They were talking about sliders with induced
vertical break and how some folks are

573
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.519
starting to think that this might be
pretty good shape of a slider that started

574
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.320
throwing, whereas before most folks were
thinking that you didn't want that. But

575
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.199
I wonder if Parks has some of
that with his slider going on. He's

576
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:38.519
got a seventy six seventy to like
seventy nine mile per hour slow you know,

577
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:43.320
hook with curveball with depth, and
the change up is you know,

578
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.400
after he's pumping ninety six ninety seven
change ups coming into like eighty six eighty

579
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:51.559
seven. It's just the whole the
whole weapons, the whole tools, the

580
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.400
arsenal part of Parks is really why
I went with him, even though I'm

581
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.519
very skeptical that he can get it
all tightened up and not. But if

582
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.719
she did, I could see him
really taking off in the Dynasty world.

583
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.679
But one thing, one thing about
Park though that I do have to note,

584
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:14.400
is I like hate his demeanor on
the mound. I find him extremely

585
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:19.239
immature and stupid, pointing at dugouts
after strika That's what I wanted. And

586
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.599
he like he walked three dudes or
hit a guy, walk two guys,

587
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:27.239
like a two run single or something, and struck out the last two batters

588
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.480
and was just like all pumped and
pointing at the other dugout about it and

589
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:31.800
stuff. I'm like, dude,
shut up, you just sucked man.

590
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:39.239
But anyway, Hunter Parks that's my
reluctant choice there. Yeah, Cincinnati was

591
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:45.039
tough for me. I really didn't
like the options very much. I'm going

592
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:50.880
with Brian Cardona, and I don't
feel great about it. He's got walk

593
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:57.440
issues, has okay stuff. It's
not like dreaming on much. I think

594
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:01.199
his fastball is below average. It's
eighty nine to ninety two. He does

595
00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:05.039
try and locate it up at the
top of the zone and get some whiffs

596
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:08.119
up there, but it's not outstanding. The change up at eighty two to

597
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:14.320
four. I think was by far
his best secondary. His curveball seventy six

598
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:19.880
to nine, pretty loopy, and
with the command being so below average,

599
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.800
I just really wasn't that excited about
it. He did have a few good

600
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:29.360
starts mixed in there that you could
dream on, but I think the command

601
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:34.280
has to tick up maybe two full
notches for this to be a real arm.

602
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:39.480
So he's honestly wins by default here, just given our constraints. You

603
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.840
know, if you want to dream
on the stuff side of things, your

604
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:49.239
guys me Connor Phillips and Andrew Abbott
are really interesting. Richardson and Roa are

605
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:53.440
again similar high walk but have shown
some flashes, but they're way higher up

606
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:59.840
in level up in tripa A.
Petty is like maybe interesting, although people

607
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.360
have been talking about his stuff for
so long and he just doesn't get strikeouts

608
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:06.440
with it, and so that's really
weird to me. So those are all

609
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:10.320
like the pretty boy names, right, and for the other names like everybody

610
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:15.639
seems to have a walk problem or
doesn't strike anybody out or both, just

611
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:17.599
like, yeah, I didn't really
love it. We've been talking about some

612
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:24.239
weird swings. Let's get into the
Milwaukee Brewers history here, so our bad

613
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:30.679
last year was Tayden Hall, who
was a ninth round twenty twenty two pickout

614
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:36.679
of Junior College, the son of
former Big leaguer Toby Hall. Hall's interesting

615
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.960
in that he is a big guy
six' four two hundred some pounds and

616
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:49.800
he is yet to hit a professional
home run. He is noodleback, which

617
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.039
is on brand, especially down in
Carolina. He's a very different looking hitter.

618
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:59.199
He's toned down some of his his
oddness. He is very very open,

619
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.559
but I think he gets into a
good hitting position and then the weirdness

620
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.880
is more just in the start of
his stance. But hit two seventy four.

621
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:13.000
He had an on base percentage of
four nineteen. I mean, you

622
00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.480
love guys like this, mad.
I mean he walked nineteen percent of the

623
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:22.400
time and struck out eighteen percent of
the time. I like that, I

624
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.199
know right now. I think he
was drafted as a catcher, and part

625
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.280
that was part of the interest initially
to me was like, Okay, we

626
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:37.920
got this young teenage sort of catcher
slash corner outfielder slash first baseman who looks

627
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.679
like he's really disciplined approach and can
maybe hit a little and he's big.

628
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:45.400
Maybe he'll start hitting some home runs, but like I said, didn't,

629
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:51.599
which which really kind of tampers any
interest I might have. I don't seems

630
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:55.199
like a lot of just opposite field
slap hitting from Tatum Hall. He didn't

631
00:45:55.239 --> 00:46:00.239
catch very much either. This big, tall first base man who's gonna walk

632
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:04.119
a lot and hit some singles.
I don't really know what that does for

633
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:08.760
us in fantasy. Not much,
not much. But to go a little

634
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:15.400
bit further back in time, I
think twenty twenty one went with Ernesto Martinez,

635
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:20.639
who's a big six' five,
two hundred and fifty pound Cuban who's

636
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.639
twenty four years old. He got
up to double A, but he remains

637
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:30.039
a bit interesting to me from a
B side standpoint. Brewers just resigned him

638
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:35.639
to a minor league contract. But
in some ways Martinez is an interesting watch,

639
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.719
as I believe his discipline at the
plate has improved, Like I was

640
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:45.880
surprised to see he got under twenty
percent strikeout rate. Now this is this

641
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:52.559
is like very very poor man's homeless
man's sort of version of O'Neill Cruz or

642
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:58.440
a big guy who can run and
I think does have some pop in his

643
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.079
back nothing like like the those guys, but he doesn't really pull the ball

644
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:05.320
enough and get to his power like
you like to talk about. But nonetheless

645
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:12.440
kind of an interesting power speed combo
from first base potentially who just might still

646
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:16.639
have major league chance. I don't
think he'd be an awful choice to go

647
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:22.719
with this season, but I didn't
love a lot of the Brewers' bats down

648
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:28.360
here, mostly because there's so many
weird ones Matt there are, I know,

649
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.760
to talk about one of them.
I cut up that one little video

650
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:37.280
of just one day one lineup with
Carolina, and like half the lineup is

651
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:45.159
just his goofy swings and batwaggles and
weird toe taps and jed here Arianamo is

652
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:49.199
just like one of my favorites.
Yeah, he's super I mean, don't

653
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:54.159
get me wrong, has produced well. Jesus Torinos has got weird toe tap

654
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:59.519
footstep thing going on, hitting halls
weird. So I don't know there,

655
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:01.880
I don't know. I just feel
like, okay for me, there's there's

656
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:07.280
other guys at this level that are
sort of producing, Like I just don't

657
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.039
have to like go with the weird
looking one. I don't know, So

658
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:15.360
I went with the I went with
jan Baiaz, who is not a nothing

659
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:20.079
name. I don't think he was
at two percent, so that's that's much

660
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.800
higher than I usually go. There's
a teenager, eighteen year old who really

661
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.920
had a nice season on the Complex
and then just got a brief I think,

662
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.960
like two week taste at the very
end. He's not very big either.

663
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:36.239
Look at me picking a little minion. He's yea, I know,

664
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:40.000
right five nine, right hander.
The only like I only really saw like

665
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:44.360
one hard hit ball. I think
he was an opposite field. We hit

666
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.159
like a double into the gap over
those you know, couple of series.

667
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:52.760
You know, it strikes me as
a high contact guy. Hit three point

668
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.840
fifty one with a three seventy seven
on base and did slug five twenty seven.

669
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:01.639
Granted in the complex he struck eleven
percent of the time and walked four

670
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:06.679
percent of the time. So an
aggressive little guy here, which you know,

671
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:09.119
I like aggressive guys at this level, especially at eighteen years old.

672
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.719
We'll see how this all plays out, but I don't know the one little

673
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:19.679
look. I figured one bias,
and he was far less less goofy than

674
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.760
anybody. He does have a bit
of a of a laid kick, that,

675
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:24.960
you know whatever, I'm not like
a huge fan of. As long

676
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:28.760
as you're you're doing it well,
it seems to go all right. So

677
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:32.599
I don't know one Bias matt Any
thoughts. Yeah, he strikes me as

678
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:38.239
your kind of guy, a little
too aggressive for my take, But I

679
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:45.079
M looking at him. I thought
this is an interesting developmental project, you

680
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:46.480
know, Like you said, he
didn't get a ton of looks in full

681
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:52.079
season ball, and he's still young, so I think he's got some some

682
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.519
developmental road ahead of him. Yeah, but yeah, I liked I liked

683
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:59.639
Bias all right. He seems interesting
to follow, and I think I think

684
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.440
a guy who I think folks sake
has a chance to stick in the dirty

685
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:06.000
played shortstop, third base, second
base. So yeah, I don't know,

686
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:09.039
just kind of an interesting sort of
b side watch. Far more raster

687
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:13.440
than I would kind of expect.
But you know, people like to jump

688
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:16.239
on these two that do some stuff
in the complex. So yeah, I

689
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:21.880
was surprised he was at two percent
already considering he's still so young. And

690
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:28.480
yeah, this organization is just funny, all the funny stances and swings.

691
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.119
Yeah, it's a it's an interesting
organization for sure, No, Wes Clerk

692
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:37.559
was like a little bit interesting to
me, especially after the AFL, but

693
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:42.159
still the strikeouts thirty percent. Just
don't like to dance with that if I

694
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.920
don't have to agreed, especially for
a guy who's going to be a cornerback.

695
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:47.320
I know they list him as a
catcher, but he didn't play there

696
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:52.079
that much, and those kids are
right on the red line, and while

697
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.039
the power is there, the margin
for that kind of guy to succeed is

698
00:50:55.119 --> 00:50:59.480
just so narrow. I watched a
good bit of him too, and I

699
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.840
liked his swing, but I think
if that's a one bay, if that's

700
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:07.840
a first base only, I don't
know. I liked him more in the

701
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:10.239
AFL catch him some looks of him
there than the end season stuff that I

702
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:14.119
saw. Yeah, Xavier Warren was
a guy who I kind of had my

703
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:15.880
own a little bit last year,
but I think did get a little bit

704
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:20.159
more popular, but he seemed to
fall off this year. He did not

705
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:24.920
have super productive season. Yeah,
and my guys like that were Eric Brown

706
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:29.480
Junior, obviously a little more owned
I think, who was in like some

707
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:34.840
top thirties for fypds last year,
and another another goofy swing, another goofy

708
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:39.639
swing, swing, kind of undersized
guy. And matthew Wood was another one

709
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:44.199
that I kind of liked, and
then I watched him and I was just

710
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:46.480
like, that's just kind of a
goofy swing. I think he's never going

711
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:51.679
to hit for power. And yeah, for that reason, I was kind

712
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:54.079
of out on him too, So
yeah, a bunch of funny swings.

713
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:59.800
I ended up going with Isaac Collins
for my pick, and again I don't

714
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:06.000
love this pick. He's sort of
a blow average athlete, maybe is a

715
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.480
corner. I mean, he's played
second, third, a little bit of

716
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:14.119
outfield. Again, good plate skills, but he just seems like maybe a

717
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:17.800
smarter base runner than actually a good
like a plus athlete. You know,

718
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:22.639
he swiped twenty nine bags, which
is certainly not nothing. I like his

719
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:25.760
swing. I think the swing looks
nice. He's a switch hitter, and

720
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:31.639
it has a nice swing from both
sides, with good contact and a little

721
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:36.639
more power than you'd expect. Although
ten homers in three hundred and eighty five

722
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:40.039
plate appearances, it's not like he's
a thirty homer bat in the making.

723
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:45.280
If he's just the left fielder,
that makes it a little bit tougher to

724
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.239
see this sort of profile playing up. But if he sticks on the dirt,

725
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:52.239
then maybe I don't know. I
didn't love him, but I liked

726
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:58.280
enough that he's my selection. Isaac
Collins. Yeah, I don't know if

727
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.119
you watch any of Collins. Did
he come from the Rockies? He did?

728
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:04.400
He did. I was wondering if
you remember that. Yeah, they

729
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:10.159
did fade him and he got claimed
last offseason. He was like okay in

730
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:14.599
the Rocky system. But again he's
another small guy, like he's five to

731
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.519
eight. I think, so that's
probably part of it. And again I'm

732
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:22.440
a little worried about his defensive position. And if yeah, he really is

733
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:24.960
just a left fielder, then you
look at that and you're like, I

734
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:28.880
don't know. But he got a
small cup of coffeet the end of the

735
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.039
year at Triple A, and I
bet that's where Milwaukee starts him next year.

736
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:35.760
So but I remember correctly, I
think he was he was twenty twenty

737
00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:38.280
one Fresno for a little bit.
Uh huh. I think I think rest

738
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:42.639
of the studio kind of took over
his spot, so to speak. Yeah,

739
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.559
right, that's interesting, you're gonna
say. I think I think i'd

740
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:49.400
cut you off, were you gonna
say something else about Arianamo. I just

741
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:53.079
think his batwaggle. If anybody's listening, you got to watch this guy.

742
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:58.199
It's just like pick a random at
bat. He stands up there like he's

743
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:00.800
a normal hitter, you know,
slightly open stands, and then right before

744
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:06.079
the pitch is gonna come, he
tomahawk chops his bat all the way down

745
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:10.000
to his belt basically, and the
ball's like on its way and he's doing

746
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:15.159
It's the weirdest swing I think I
saw in the Miners this year. I

747
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.599
hate it. And he's like seems
like he's late all the time because he's

748
00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:22.360
got a funny toe tap too.
He did okay, like turn in an

749
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:28.400
okay line this year, but man, I just think it's such a terrible

750
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:30.920
look, and he's never he just
doesn't seem like he's on time enough.

751
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:35.119
And he might want to fix those
two things, buddy, I know,

752
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:38.039
right. I mean, imagine how
he could produce if he wasn't such a

753
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:42.639
weirdo. Maybe a little better.
Are the Brewers like doing this on purpose?

754
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:45.880
Like is this like a little like
running inside joke they have going on

755
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:51.239
or something like just let's just find
the weirdest the weirdest looking hitters and put

756
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:53.719
them all together. You know,
it might be I mean, honestly,

757
00:54:53.800 --> 00:55:00.519
they might just be like looking for
that unheralded kind of swing and they might

758
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:05.440
be taking it to the extreme.
But yeah, it's weird. Their collection

759
00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.239
of hitters is by far the weirdest, just in terms of diversity of plate

760
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:12.920
approach and all the weird things they
do in the swing. I thought,

761
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.559
for sure I would have bet somebody
money that you were going to go with

762
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:19.280
Dylan o'ray. I don't know if
you watch it. I thought about it.

763
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:23.119
I did. I thought about it, But the No Homer thing for

764
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:28.920
me, I was like, yes, you know, decent speed and again

765
00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:32.480
kind of a funkier swing, and
it's certainly someone that I would put a

766
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:37.360
watch on, especially if you're in
category leagues and you don't care about power,

767
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:43.239
because forty four bags and two hundred
and eighty five plate appearances is right

768
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:47.360
forty. He was a twenty twenty
two third round pick out of Canada.

769
00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:52.639
Just FYI, but I thought I
saw he swing too. I thought,

770
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:57.199
yeah, yeah, he does.
But I saw the twenty percent walk rate,

771
00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.119
the thirteen percent k and I'm like, oh, that's going to take

772
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:05.199
him. He's on my list for
sure, and you know, honestly,

773
00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:09.159
he might end up being more interesting
than Collins because he's younger and there's still

774
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:14.199
some time for him to find a
defensive home. But the fact they're already

775
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.719
moving him around a lot too tells
me that like, probably not plus any

776
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:21.840
of those defensive slots either. He's
played second short center, but the speed

777
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:23.920
is real, kind of a goofy
swing, and I'm not sure it's going

778
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:29.599
to play at higher levels. I've
heard even though he's at zero percent raster.

779
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.199
And maybe this is just being around
back or something in Brewer talk,

780
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:36.440
but I've heard some talk about Alex
Hall, who is up in Wisconsin and

781
00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:39.039
he's an Australian guy. But I
don't know. I didn't really I didn't

782
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:43.760
really get peel there. Well,
if he's a Nausie, you can just

783
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:49.920
write him off. They're a bunch
of terrible folk prisoners over there the other

784
00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.119
side of the ditch, just a
bunch of bunch of outlaws. I think

785
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:57.880
we did well last year on the
pitching side, Matt justin Jarvis. I

786
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.320
think that worked out fantastically at him
roster and he took off, got some

787
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:07.480
popularity, and I traded him everywhere. He's now with the Mats. Of

788
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.119
course, I don't know. Maybe
knocking on the door with the Mets,

789
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:13.639
I think he's I think he got
up to triple A, didn't he?

790
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:15.760
But long term wise, I don't. I don't have a whole lot of

791
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:20.800
interest there. And then Matt,
I don't know how you felt about the

792
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:23.760
Brewer system, but dude, as
a whole, I get they have some

793
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:28.320
big names and whatever, but as
a whole, I thought this system was

794
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:32.920
so boring, so many, so
many soft tossing, just boring guys and

795
00:57:34.280 --> 00:57:37.559
older too, like and like,
I feel like even the younger guys and

796
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:42.719
maybe throw a little bit harder,
like Patricio a Kenyo, like he throws

797
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:46.400
ninety five, but like he doesn't
strike guys out yep. So I don't

798
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:51.920
know. So I was kind of
really kind of reaching here, and I

799
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:54.920
decided to go with a project,
like a legit project, and that was

800
00:57:55.320 --> 00:58:00.000
Quentin Lowe. Who did you watch
him at all? I didn't. Okay,

801
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.199
So quinnlo he's from out here,
not too far from my house actually,

802
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:07.159
but he was a twenty twenty one
thirteenth round pick out of high school

803
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:09.360
I think a little bit older.
Oh I guess twenty he's like twenty one

804
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:14.880
now. But he was a two
way player and had been that and had

805
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:17.800
been up to up to this season. But I think early in the season

806
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:22.639
all the hitting stop. If I'm
not mistaken, mistaken, and it looks

807
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:24.760
like he's going to be just a
pitcher now. People like to talk about

808
00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:29.760
the Brewers pitching development a little bit. Well let's let's see what happens here.

809
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:34.599
This is a big test because Low
is raw, he is he is

810
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:38.840
rough. But my man throws ninety
seven. He's got a nasty breaking ball.

811
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:43.519
He's big at six four two fifteen. Like I said, it's it's

812
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:46.320
sloppy. He watched seven point nine
to nine per nine. But given mind,

813
00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:51.079
this is like thirty thirty two innings
of a guy who has not been

814
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.199
a full time pitcher ever. I
did kind of feel like the last couple

815
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:57.920
outings, I think he was getting
better. I think there were some improvements

816
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:00.400
being made. But like I said, this this is just this is a

817
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:02.360
reach. This is a real big
swing. But if it does, if

818
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:06.559
they can tighten this up, maybe
it takes a year. I don't know.

819
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.480
This could be get exciting and get
lots of dynasty attention with that sort

820
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:14.480
of velocity in what I think might
be some real strikeout upside. He was

821
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:19.119
at what twelve point nine to five
per nine in his short thirty two innings

822
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.480
or whatever. Yeah, I don't
know quinnin Low. I'll have to watch

823
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:25.199
some video of him. I didn't
know anything about him. But that's interesting

824
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:30.320
little developmental project for the Brewers,
very much so. But you know,

825
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:34.280
definitely definitely has some juice in there, and let's let's see what happens when

826
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:37.679
he just has to focus on one
thing. Well. The Brewers have two

827
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:44.800
guys at the top of their pitching
organization that I've long been a fan of

828
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:51.000
in Carlos F. Rodriguez and Robert
Gasser. Both are my kind of guys

829
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:53.159
and that they've built up volume,
they get a decent amount of strikeouts,

830
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:57.119
and they aren't overly wild. I
like both of them. I have shares

831
00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:00.239
of each in a bunch of different
leagues, or have had shares and traded

832
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:05.880
them. But they're the kind of
guys that I really like in deeper leagues,

833
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.079
especially points leaks, just because they're
guys that I think come up and

834
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:15.239
are more likely to contribute right away
with that floor of innings, and then

835
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:22.360
of course the highest profile name in
their org in Jacob Mssierowski, who I

836
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:29.000
think the stuff is certainly intriguing,
but I think Nate agrees on this that

837
01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:32.079
we're both pretty skeptical that he puts
it together as a starter. You know,

838
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:37.079
thirteen point four percent walk rate and
you watch him visually and it's just

839
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:42.280
like the stuff is everywhere, even
his like plus pitches, he just misses

840
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:45.360
the zone by so much. It's
just like, who are you really fooling

841
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:47.760
with that? You know, Even
with all that, he still had a

842
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:52.480
thirty five percent k rate on the
year and ended up in double A and

843
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:57.480
obviously had a really impressive showing in
the Futures game. But I like Nate,

844
01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:00.360
I think remained pretty skeptical of him
and honestly going to take the other

845
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:04.960
two arms at the top of that
org over him, and you know,

846
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.119
we'll see, we'll see who's wrong. I'm not that's not a popular opinion,

847
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:14.639
but I really like, I don't
know a lot of that just feels

848
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:20.239
like the classic sort of dynasty overpay
for a guy that's stuff like, And

849
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:23.360
don't get me wrong, it can't
happen. It just is not my it's

850
01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:29.760
not my style to to pay premiums
on these sorts of guys deal holes and

851
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:35.519
Mizowskis, And yeah, I agree, and deal Hall sins like all those

852
01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:39.559
guys at some point just got huge
buzz and it's like you guys, I

853
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:45.360
know, I'm sure, I'm sure
they're they're blown up the stuff plus spreadsheets

854
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:50.360
and stuff. But deal Hall is
a is a like way bigger part of

855
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:55.199
his outcome distribution than most want to
admit. And I just am not a

856
01:01:55.239 --> 01:02:00.760
personal buyer of that kind of guy. I just think there's the injury risk

857
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:05.239
seems higher with him. Performance has
been good rather than great, and if

858
01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:08.039
he's got elite stuff, why hasn't
he put up elite performance? And so

859
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:13.440
anyway, all that to say,
I'm I'm sort of give me the gimme.

860
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:17.199
Robert Gasser over Mizerowski and Carlo stef
Arbriguez the same kind of thing,

861
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:21.920
Like I'm more interested in them.
As a guy I actually went to Hold,

862
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.519
whereas I'm trading. If I luck
into a share or take over a

863
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:30.960
team that has Miserowski, I'm selling
him almost immediately. But I agree with

864
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:34.199
Nate that kind of the rest of
this organization. I was just like,

865
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:37.519
there is not a lot here.
There's a couple of reliever type guys that

866
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:43.199
might be interesting in Shane Smith and
Blake Holob. I watched both of them

867
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:45.039
and thought like, Yeah, these
looked like big league relievers to me.

868
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:47.599
A lot of the other starters,
I was just like, oh, these

869
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:52.840
are not good. Like just I
was not a fan except for one guy,

870
01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:57.840
Nate if I came to him late, like he had missed on my

871
01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:01.480
cutoff of deep dives for our picture
draft. But I think if I had

872
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:06.039
evaluated this guy before our picture draft, I think it would have taken him.

873
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:09.360
So I'm I'm on this guy,
like as in, he's one of

874
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:14.000
my favorite arms I saw in the
minors this year, and I'm just not

875
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:20.039
hearing anything about him. And it's
Logan Henderson is my guy here. Not

876
01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:23.440
on ba's top thirty. Clegg did
rank him at the back of his top

877
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:27.320
five hundred, and you know five
twelve when I pulled this, he is

878
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:32.360
two percent rostered. So some people
have paid attention because his end of last

879
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:37.599
year was phenomenal, made it up
to a ball. I think he repeated

880
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:39.800
a ball. That's right. He
made it up to a ball at the

881
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:44.840
end of last year for a small
cup of coffee, but Henderson repeated a

882
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:47.280
ball this year. I think he
dealt with an injury early in the year

883
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:52.320
because he really didn't get going until
late May, I think, and his

884
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:55.480
first few starts were a little bit
up and down. Ended the year on

885
01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:00.119
just this hell of a stretch.
Let me let me pull this up because

886
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:06.280
it was so impressive. From June
fifteenth to the end of the year,

887
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:14.440
through fifty nine innings over twelve starts, struck out eighty one, walked thirteen

888
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:17.880
good for two to nine. ERA
gave up six homers over that time.

889
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:25.320
His whip was like zero point seven
over that stretch. Just absolutely dominant and

890
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:30.920
watching him, this isn't a guy
who has like a plus curveball that is

891
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:36.000
playing up because of the competition.
His stuff seemed legit ninety one to five

892
01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:41.079
on the fastball, but it seemed
like it played up a bit more.

893
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:44.639
I think I got one start where
he was up to ninety six. According

894
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:47.360
to the broadcast. There wasn't a
visual gun, but it seemed like there

895
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:51.760
were round up characteristics here that were
really exciting. In that if he threw

896
01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:54.760
it at the top of the zone, he was getting a whiff or a

897
01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:57.480
pop up on it, you know, ninety one to five, Like that's

898
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:01.559
pretty awesome. His changeup is his
plus pitch, and it is nasty,

899
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:06.360
like not quite as good as like, you know, the Devin Williams of

900
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.639
the world, but that same kind
of shape where it really kind of falls

901
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:14.480
off to the right. Again,
not quite as intense, but he arm

902
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:16.360
looks the same, and he's throwing
it to lefties, he's throwing it to

903
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:20.800
righty's and getting whiffs and called strikes, and it's got a nice movement profile,

904
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:25.320
and he really does seem like he
has command of it. His slider

905
01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:30.559
is his worst pitch, but it
seemed like he was developing it this year.

906
01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:34.400
I saw some starts earlier in the
summer, like late June, early

907
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:38.440
July, where it looked like he
was getting under his slider. But I

908
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:42.719
listened to a home broadcast towards the
end of the year, Oh yeah,

909
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:46.280
his last start of the year against
Texas's A ball team, and the broadcaster

910
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:49.840
said that he's really been developing that, and he showed a few more where

911
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:53.199
he was actually getting on top of
it, and it was moving in the

912
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:57.480
right direction. And in that start
against Texas he went six innings, which

913
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:01.360
you and I both love, and
punched out out ten no walks and looked

914
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:06.800
every bit as dominant as that line
sounds. He was getting called strikes,

915
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:12.400
whiffs, getting whiffs with all three
pitches, but it's especially the fastball at

916
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.519
the top of the zone and the
changeup are his weapons. And the changeup

917
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:19.679
is like comfortably plus and with the
command that he showed towards the end of

918
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:23.000
the year, I think earlier in
the year he had a couple of bad

919
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:27.719
starts that pushed up his walk rate
a little bit, but from that point

920
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:32.119
on in the year it was actually
elite command and was getting a ton of

921
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:38.360
strikeouts. One of the best kind
of sixty inning pitch runs of the of

922
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:42.679
the year. And yes it is
just a ball, and yes he's repeating

923
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:45.760
it, but he doesn't have a
long track record. He was a twenty

924
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:50.039
twenty one drafty fourth rounder out of
high school by the Brewers and barely last

925
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:54.440
year. Yeah, do you know
why he loved only what thirteen innings last

926
01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:59.239
year? I don't. I wonder. I wonder if it was related to

927
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.039
whatever caused him to start the year
slowly and on the shelf. This year,

928
01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:06.280
I tried to do a little bit
of digging, but I didn't see

929
01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:13.480
what it was. This looks great
it is I think like I'm like a

930
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:17.280
good one that I like it actually
very very excited. Yeah, he was

931
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.920
a community college guy, so not
out of high school, you know,

932
01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:25.199
a year out of that. I
feel like I feel like I heard some

933
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:30.119
talk about him, some buzz about
him around that draft, but a name

934
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.440
that has gone forgotten in my mind. I don't remember hearing anything about him.

935
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:38.800
And I came to him late in
my evaluation process because I thought the

936
01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:44.800
numbers were like solid but not outstanding
from when I was pulling stuff in September

937
01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:47.039
for this, and so I kind
of had pushed him down my list to

938
01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:50.119
evaluate and ended up with, you
know, names that I was happy with.

939
01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:54.280
But when I was digging into this
org a couple of weeks ago,

940
01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:59.239
and I was like blown away with
how good this guy looked and looking at

941
01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:03.159
how he put together his outing,
I was just continually impressed. And then

942
01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:08.679
his ending the year on six innings
ten k's and it was pristine. I

943
01:08:08.679 --> 01:08:10.719
mean, like, this is one
of those outings. So it wasn't he

944
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:15.639
was not being inefficient. It was
just getting strikeouts with every pitch. And

945
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:20.239
that lineup wasn't great. You know, the Rangers a ball team I think

946
01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:25.079
as like Glider Fraguero and like that's
the only guy who's really of note.

947
01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:29.079
But boy, he just dominated on
it. It was just a hit three

948
01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:32.319
all of that. That's solid.
Yeah, July twenty second, August fifth,

949
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:36.000
and September second, which is the
start you were referring to. Yeah,

950
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:42.079
and a guy who only got eighteen
starts on the year and has twenty

951
01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:46.399
twenty five professional starts total, Like, this is a dude I think in

952
01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:50.119
the making. He threw eight that
start you reference, he threw eighty two

953
01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:55.000
pitches, sixty four of them for
strikes. That's what I'm saying. Like

954
01:08:55.039 --> 01:09:00.479
he watched it and he even there
was a couple pitches that were like clearly

955
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:05.840
strikes and and didn't get called for
called strike threes. And the announcer actually

956
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:09.640
commented about it, who was actually
quite good by the way. You know,

957
01:09:09.680 --> 01:09:12.159
you listen to a lot of guys
who are just veryed not that good,

958
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:15.720
but like, whoever, the Milwaukee
ay ball guy is like, kudos,

959
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:23.399
yeah, I agree, but he
like was incredulous that these strikes weren't

960
01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:27.520
being called because they were just right
there. And then twice the next pitch

961
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:30.880
was a swing and miss. He
just didn't care that he got squeezed.

962
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:32.760
He just went back to the same
pitch or changed it up and got a

963
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:35.960
strike. Like I mean, I
was just like, this is really impressive.

964
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:41.359
Okay, what why did he slip
through my cracks? There's there's nothing,

965
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:45.359
there's no marker that would have like
eliminated him from my process of watching

966
01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:48.479
him, and I didn't. I
don't know, just wonder. I just

967
01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:53.279
wonder for some people it's the injury
and he wasn't a guy and then I

968
01:09:53.279 --> 01:10:00.279
guess fourth rounder but injured JC guy. All Right, would you on a

969
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:06.199
long track record, would you rather
Sheriff Henderson or Missowski? Honestly, Henderson

970
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:12.520
after watching him, like, I
just think playing the game, Misowski obviously,

971
01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:15.279
because I can turn that into something, right, I mean, like,

972
01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:19.000
I think is going to make the
major leagues and be a starting pitcher.

973
01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:25.039
I think Henderson is going to be. Like I'm genuinely he's in my

974
01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:30.960
top like five or six arms in
the minor leagues of the like non elite

975
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:34.159
arms, you know, like him
and Tang and Van Schoder, like those

976
01:10:34.279 --> 01:10:38.079
kinds of guys. Like he's in
that top five for me. Okay,

977
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:40.760
all right, I'm gonna have to
I'm gonna watch some Henderson after that.

978
01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:44.159
Yes, two guys now that damn
you, Matt, damn you all right?

979
01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:51.159
Just learning here? Yeah, Pittsburgh
Pirates, the Buckos. This is

980
01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:57.000
where I think we came together harmoniously
on the hitter side, did we not?

981
01:10:57.399 --> 01:11:00.279
We did? I mean, we
already talked about Charles Mann I could

982
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:01.960
do, but maybe we'll talk about
him a little bit more during the first

983
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:05.279
year player draft. I don't know. He was our bat selection, both

984
01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:11.600
of our bat selections. The Pirates
b side history is really interesting to me.

985
01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:15.640
I wouldn't say that we have had
like a big success yet, but

986
01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:18.079
I kind of feel like there might
be some brewing a little bit. Last

987
01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:25.640
year selected Chase Bowen, who had
another really solid, nice year High A

988
01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:29.319
in Double A. He went twenty
twenty twenty three home runs, twenty six

989
01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:33.159
stolen bases. I believe he cut
his k rate once again or stayed pretty

990
01:11:33.159 --> 01:11:36.840
similar as he moved up a level
or two. He kind of impressed in

991
01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:41.319
the AFL a little bit, but
I think he might be turning into I

992
01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:44.319
don't know, do you think he's
a real prospect in their system though?

993
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.600
I do. And he's a guy
that you know, independent of your previous

994
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:53.359
selections. I thought merited consideration here, power speed blend, He's a good

995
01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:59.720
athlete place Birthpase. Yeah, I'm
pretty interested to see what he does next

996
01:11:59.800 --> 01:12:03.600
year, because, as he noted, he has been keeping the Cays on

997
01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:08.199
the right trend as he goes up
to the minor league ladder, which is

998
01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:11.840
very difficult to do. Just a
small cup of coffee at double A at

999
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:15.680
the end of the year. But
his overall line is quite interesting. Again,

1000
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:18.760
I'm a little worried on the swing
and miss, but sure if he

1001
01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:23.399
can keep that under control. There's
power speed blend here, and I do

1002
01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:27.239
like Bowen. Yeah, I kind
of think too, like regardless of how

1003
01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:31.239
it might go. This was This
was a nice twenty nineteen eleventh round prep

1004
01:12:31.279 --> 01:12:36.399
selection by the Pirates. I think. Yeah, a good little developmental story,

1005
01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:40.880
I think. And then, man, I'm sure you've probably heard me

1006
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:45.279
talk about Dario Lopez in the past. I was pretty excited for his twenty

1007
01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:49.000
twenty three and then he busted up
his knee before it even started and missed

1008
01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:53.520
the whole year. He's still I
don't know. He'll probably start in Higa

1009
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:56.279
again, is my guess. I
don't know, maybe at least for a

1010
01:12:56.279 --> 01:13:00.279
little while. He's an interesting bat
with some power and I think good contact

1011
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:04.039
skills. I don't know. I've
heard that he's awful defensively. I don't

1012
01:13:04.039 --> 01:13:08.000
know if it's I don't know if
I'm quite that dramatic about it. So

1013
01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:11.840
I don't know where they'll stick him
in the infield, if in the infield

1014
01:13:11.880 --> 01:13:15.880
at all. But a guy who
really you could see evolved from his A

1015
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:20.479
ball days of being kind of a
spray hitter, more so opposite field,

1016
01:13:20.479 --> 01:13:24.560
but power to all fields, and
then he became more of a pool hitter

1017
01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:28.640
when he got to a ball or
a high A. But I'm really interested

1018
01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:32.680
to see him this year, and
still very much not rostered along with Bowen

1019
01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:35.840
too. Bowen was at one percent
when I pulled him middle of September,

1020
01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:41.319
and then we did have a former. He's obviously not with them anymore.

1021
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:45.000
But Diego Castillo was a B side
once upon a time. He made the

1022
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:48.239
big leagues, so maybe McAdoo can
keep this nice little, nice little stretch

1023
01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:53.359
going. What other bats may be
caught your mind? Caught your attention,

1024
01:13:53.680 --> 01:13:59.239
Matt. The only the one I
wanted to mention was Trey Gonzalez. Yeah,

1025
01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:04.680
he's a lefty outfielder for them,
and what you do. He made

1026
01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:11.359
it up to high this year,
more speed over power, but interesting plate

1027
01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:15.000
skills. He's not like a must
follow for me, but just again,

1028
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.159
like a slightly undersized player with good
plate skills, you know. I like

1029
01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:25.439
that kind of that kind of profile
to project on. And I yeah,

1030
01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:29.880
I don't feel strongly about him.
I don't think there's even a regular here

1031
01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:31.520
just yet. But if he puts
on a little more power, the plate

1032
01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:36.279
skills are good enough and he just
needs to advance something else to be really

1033
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:39.680
interesting. But I liked, I
like the look of him. Yeah,

1034
01:14:39.720 --> 01:14:43.079
he was on my short list due
the one thing that's nice about the Pirates

1035
01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:45.760
is that all of their A Ball
games are broadcast in that league, so

1036
01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:49.000
you can kind of watch a lot
of these guys. Oh yeah, I

1037
01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:54.159
watch a ton of Bradenton yep.
And it's a good angle to watch pictures.

1038
01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:59.359
Thank thank god for Braidenton. Yeah, and like like you said,

1039
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:03.720
the angle not only is a good
angle from from sort of directionally from setifield,

1040
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:09.279
they really zoom in, so like
you get pretty good looking than the

1041
01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:13.199
camera isn't the nicest, it's still
you get really good looks at people,

1042
01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:17.039
and you get like the primo supplement
of having some stack cast stuff paired with

1043
01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:21.560
it. Yeah, as you watch
super nice. Yeah, I just I

1044
01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:26.760
just wish the quality of players would
be a little bit better at times.

1045
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:32.199
I know one one of my guys
that I kind of fell forward last off

1046
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:38.439
season based on some you know,
behind the scenes scouting in quotes from Eric

1047
01:15:38.479 --> 01:15:45.239
Longenhagen, he had said they'd gotten
great data on this twitchy tooled out six

1048
01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:50.039
foot four shortstop named your done Delos
Santos for the Pirates. And so I

1049
01:15:50.119 --> 01:15:54.159
picked him up in like a bunch
of leagues and was super excited to see

1050
01:15:54.199 --> 01:16:00.920
him. Watched him a bunch in
Bradenton. He is awful, like maybe

1051
01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:05.000
there is something still to come,
but I could not be farther out on

1052
01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:08.800
him right now. He hit one
homer on the year. I think I

1053
01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:12.199
think it was just the one homer, but certainly one that was that was

1054
01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:16.359
on video, and he like squeaked
this pitch out that was middle middle like

1055
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:21.000
eighty nine mile an hour fastball right
down the minute I barely got it out.

1056
01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:25.840
I was like, who, this
is terrible. Yeah. Some of

1057
01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:30.439
the scouts that I casually chat with
from time to time, they've like given

1058
01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:33.359
me some lists sometimes from like the
DSL or whatever, like these are who

1059
01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:38.359
we got as the top fifteen prospects
from the DSL something like that, Right,

1060
01:16:38.439 --> 01:16:42.159
And like, dude, half of
those guys maybe even more like the

1061
01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:46.520
next season can't like hit over two
hundred in the complex and you're just like,

1062
01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:48.960
I don't know what. Okay,
all right, well, thanks,

1063
01:16:49.119 --> 01:16:54.279
thanks for the thanks for the list. So kind of interesting. I think

1064
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:59.640
in the DSL you got to listen
to Baddler and kind of nobody else,

1065
01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:04.239
Like, unless you're in the DSL
getting something additional, the numbers are worthless

1066
01:17:04.279 --> 01:17:09.960
almost. I mean, it's pretty
much on par to me, maybe a

1067
01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:12.960
little bit better. Like, hey, look at this guy down the road

1068
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:15.760
in Colorado here, he just hit
five point fifty senior year of high school.

1069
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:20.319
Like, okay, it doesn't mean
he's good like in a professional sense,

1070
01:17:21.279 --> 01:17:25.159
you know, but there's a couple
other bats that kind of made my

1071
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:28.119
short list here for the Pirates.
I don't know if I wrote this down

1072
01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:30.600
wrong. I think I double checked
it though. But they have this catcher

1073
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:33.279
first base guy who's in the complex
and got a little bit run a ball,

1074
01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:39.800
Omar al Alfonso, who is listed
at nineteen twenty years old maybe now,

1075
01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:45.800
but he was a twenty nineteen undrafted
free agent Minnesota High school. Like,

1076
01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:48.079
is that the math even add up? Right? There? Is that

1077
01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:51.800
even a thing? I don't know. Maybe that seems funny, I know,

1078
01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:56.800
I know, so maybe something is
miss labeled there. I don't know.

1079
01:17:57.039 --> 01:18:00.399
This was more just kind of looking
at some complex numbers and then turning

1080
01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:02.119
him a little video on and he
was kind of interesting. When we keep

1081
01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:05.840
tabs there, I'd like to look
at him at the plate. Another first

1082
01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:12.079
base type that was down there who
got promoted to Hya later was Nick Smillell.

1083
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:15.039
He's a little bit older, sixteenth
round pickout of Rutgers in twenty twenty

1084
01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:18.119
two. He's a little bit interesting. He hit. He had eleven home

1085
01:18:18.199 --> 01:18:21.880
runs in two hundred and seventy five
played appearances this season. Gonna watch him

1086
01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:25.800
a little bit. Another guy that
came up from the complex, another first

1087
01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:30.199
base corner outfield type as Merlyn val
does. Interested to watch him a little

1088
01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:32.920
bit more. He hit well,
He had six home runs in one hundred

1089
01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:38.800
and eighty two played appearances, hit
over three hundred, slugged over five hundred.

1090
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:42.520
Kind of liked the brief look of
him. And then I wanted to

1091
01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:46.800
ask you about Emmanuel Terrero, who
I think I have him as zero percent

1092
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:50.920
roster, but I feel like he's
been making some some top thirties. I

1093
01:18:51.079 --> 01:18:57.199
wasn't like overly impressed. Seemed like
a little speedy contact guy, maybe maybe

1094
01:18:57.239 --> 01:19:00.159
with a little bit of pop,
but I probably probably not really really your

1095
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:02.680
type. But I was just curious
if you watched him at all. Yeah,

1096
01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:06.720
I did. You know he had
a long run on that Bradenton teams,

1097
01:19:06.760 --> 01:19:12.760
but the strike out rage just for
what he was seemed to touch high.

1098
01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:15.399
You know, if he was showing
a little more power, it might

1099
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:19.680
be a little more excusable. But
that's like getting close to danger zone.

1100
01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:24.520
It's sort of about twenty six percent
for a guy that isn't going to hit

1101
01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:27.159
for a lot of power. It's
like probably limits his upside. But yeah,

1102
01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:30.960
it could be could be an interesting
follow Yeah, more more just guys

1103
01:19:30.960 --> 01:19:34.399
I want to tune into next year
sooner rather than later. Arms here last

1104
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:39.319
season I went with who did I
go with? Oh, Carlos Yemenez,

1105
01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:44.960
who got my attention down to a
ball paired with some interesting stack cast stuff.

1106
01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:46.239
But he did not pitch this year, so I don't know what the

1107
01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:50.600
injury was. No kind of physical
right hand pitcher that seemed to have some

1108
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:56.000
pretty loud stuff, and I thought
he he used it and commanded it fairly

1109
01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:58.800
well for a I don't know if
he was a teenager twenty year old at

1110
01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:01.880
the time, but he only nine
point two innings this season, so I'm

1111
01:20:02.079 --> 01:20:05.720
interested in watching him. I think
most of those innings, if not all

1112
01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:09.119
of them, were in the complex, but I want to check in on

1113
01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:13.039
him early next year. They have
this guy, Wilburd Dotel who's been interesting

1114
01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:15.640
to me the last couple of years. Mid nineties fastball. I've seen him

1115
01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:19.680
get it up to ninety nine and
he's got secondaries that look like they have

1116
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:24.680
bite. But this guy just doesn't
strike anybody out. I don't know.

1117
01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:28.159
It's just funny how that works sometimes, Matt, So I don't know.

1118
01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:30.399
He's just a bit of a mystery, just kind of interesting watch. And

1119
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:34.239
then this season, I'm gonna go
with a guy who the time in September

1120
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:40.880
was not created yet in fan tracks, and that's nineteen year old Alessandro Ercolani,

1121
01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:45.479
who was an international free agent signing
out of San Marino, which I

1122
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:47.680
think is like a country inside of
Italy or something like that. But I'm

1123
01:20:47.720 --> 01:20:55.960
not mistaken Ercolani interesting. Initially he
was. He was added to whatever the

1124
01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:00.960
AFL roster and I had seen I'm
guessing that I think it was Baseball America.

1125
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:04.000
Somebody had labeled him as having one
of the best sliders coming into the

1126
01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:08.560
AFL. Now, he never appeared
in the AFL. He never appeared in

1127
01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:11.680
af and I don't think he I
don't I don't think. I think he

1128
01:21:11.720 --> 01:21:14.520
was taking off the roster or something. I don't know, and in part

1129
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:17.880
maybe it had something to do with
injury. I think injury probably played a

1130
01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:23.079
role in why he was there too, because he missed a large chunk of

1131
01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:25.800
the season. He's good size,
and think they got him listed at like

1132
01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:29.319
six two point eight. He's a
teenager, but I wouldn't like he's already

1133
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:32.720
kind of bowl physically. I don't
know how much projection is left, but

1134
01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:36.359
like over after he came back from
his injury. Over his last thirty nine

1135
01:21:36.399 --> 01:21:41.399
and two thirds innings eight starts,
he had a two ninety eight ERA,

1136
01:21:41.880 --> 01:21:45.000
one point twenty five whip, eight
point ninety five k per nime, two

1137
01:21:45.079 --> 01:21:48.399
point nine eight walk per nime,
three strikes at sixty four percent. He

1138
01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:54.000
did give up six home runs and
thirteen earned runs. Besides all that,

1139
01:21:54.520 --> 01:21:57.760
I just I liked. I liked
the look of him walk right on.

1140
01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:00.720
The whole season was a little bit
over four per nine, struck out a

1141
01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:04.239
little bit over the fastball. Put
a little bit of stat cast stuff that

1142
01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:08.640
I was looking at, which isn't
a sample of his whole season. There

1143
01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:12.720
they have his fastball averaging like ninety
three ninety four, but I saw him

1144
01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:15.439
get it up to ninety seven ninety
eight per the Bradington broadcast, which I

1145
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:21.039
think is fairly accurate. But he
throws a couple of different fastballs per back

1146
01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:26.880
cast, the curveball, change up, slider they even label harder. But

1147
01:22:27.159 --> 01:22:29.800
you know who knows with some of
that stuff. He left the total of

1148
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:31.600
sixty five innings and yeah, I
don't know. Man. He's a young,

1149
01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:36.560
good looking pitcher who they say the
slider. The slider is supposed to

1150
01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:42.079
be pretty quality. Now I know, it's like CSW isn't real crazy on

1151
01:22:42.119 --> 01:22:44.079
that. But again, that's not
like the whole sample. I don't know

1152
01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:46.760
if that was taken before the injury
or after. But like we were talking

1153
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:49.960
about Bradenton, you get a good
angle of the looks and you know he's

1154
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:55.600
pitching the different sides of the plate
and landing his offerings. Now, the

1155
01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:59.600
fastball, I think he can leave
it over the middle of the play a

1156
01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:01.399
little too often, especially when he's
trying to play it up in the zone,

1157
01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:05.159
which you know is definitely a thing
for a lot of pictures as they're

1158
01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:11.920
developing. But Alessandro Ercolani not without
some excitement here, probably the most exciting

1159
01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:15.880
picture that I'm talking about tonight.
For me, He's not one I watched

1160
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:18.920
at all, So that's that's that's
a follow for me. I think there

1161
01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:23.800
was definitely some progression as the season
went on, and he doesn't really look

1162
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:29.640
nineteen though, But I don't know
if Italians lie about their age. There's

1163
01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:36.079
something interesting going on with the Pirates
pitching development. You know, they've had

1164
01:23:36.119 --> 01:23:42.279
a lot of success stories, even
guys like Quinn Priester, who I've never

1165
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:45.479
really been a fan of. I
actually think they've turned him into a potentially

1166
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:49.920
interesting arm. And you know,
he was pretty highly drafted and well thought

1167
01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:55.720
of, but he had sort of
a long developmental curve in the miners where

1168
01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:59.319
he showed a lot of poor stuff
before where he is now, which I

1169
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:03.000
think is like a he might be
an interesting major league starter. Their top

1170
01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:08.319
end of their organization, I think, is full of guys that I would

1171
01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:14.159
happily roster and dynasty Jared Jones,
Thomas Harrington, Anthony Solimento, Burrows,

1172
01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:17.840
those guys, huh, Mike Burrows. Burrows for sure, I really like,

1173
01:24:18.159 --> 01:24:21.439
you know, obviously injured this year, but a big fan of Burrows.

1174
01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:26.600
And so I wonder if there maybe
should get a little more credit on

1175
01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:30.560
the pitching development side than they do, because that's a lot of guys from

1176
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:35.640
a variety of backgrounds that they've turned
into what I think of as like actual

1177
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:40.520
major league caliber starters. Yeah,
and even when you like like some of

1178
01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:43.760
the guys I was mentioning, I
feel like every time you turn on Braden's

1179
01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:46.239
in, even if you're not looking
to watch a certain picture and you're just

1180
01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:50.039
clicking around there seems to me there's
always somebody you're like, oh, there's

1181
01:24:50.079 --> 01:24:55.479
a little a little juice to this
guy. I feel like there's also good

1182
01:24:55.520 --> 01:25:00.039
to identifying some some talent. Yeah. One of the guys that seems to

1183
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:03.039
be there pop up Brandenton arm this
year was Michael Kennedy, And you know,

1184
01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:09.800
I know some people just absolutely stuffed
him. And for an eighteen nineteen

1185
01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:13.560
year old arm in high A or
low A, I don't really get that

1186
01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:16.279
excited about those guys, especially when
they run a thirteen percent walk rate.

1187
01:25:16.359 --> 01:25:20.640
But again, if you look at
it in the lens of Pittsburgh's overall pitching

1188
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:25.119
development, I wonder if you might
round up on that, and maybe that

1189
01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:28.880
kind of excitement is actually warranted.
So he's certainly when to watch, although

1190
01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:30.920
I think he's already got a little
more helium than we usually talk about.

1191
01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:38.960
But I say all that to talk
about a guy that hasn't really wowed statistically

1192
01:25:39.319 --> 01:25:42.920
and is one that I'm sure you've
heard of, but I think a lot

1193
01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:46.720
of people haven't really given much thought
to. And my selection here is po

1194
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:51.279
U Chen. He's a Taiwanese arm
and I know you've mentioned you've got a

1195
01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:57.119
guy who turns you onto the Taiwanese
players that come over. And I don't

1196
01:25:57.239 --> 01:26:03.119
think he's really made any kind of
noise in Dynasty circles up to this point.

1197
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:08.319
Yeah, I've got him as zero
percent owned in Dynasty, not ranked

1198
01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:13.159
on anybody's list that I could find, And he's been just okay the past

1199
01:26:13.159 --> 01:26:16.640
couple of years. He was a
international signee in twenty twenty and then didn't

1200
01:26:16.640 --> 01:26:20.720
throw much in twenty twenty one,
and then had a full season in Bradenton

1201
01:26:20.840 --> 01:26:27.039
last year, ninety eight innings of
solid ball there but just didn't jump off

1202
01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:30.600
the page. But at Greensboro this
year, he threw twenty five games,

1203
01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:34.399
twenty four starts, one hundred and
nineteen and two thirds innings pitched, struck

1204
01:26:34.439 --> 01:26:41.359
out over nine per nine and three
point two walks for nine, So solid

1205
01:26:41.560 --> 01:26:45.560
K and BB. And she'd think
like, Hey, that's not bad and

1206
01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:48.840
not a crazy babby. You know
some grounders, you know, but it's

1207
01:26:48.880 --> 01:26:54.680
not crazy. Still, nobody's talking
about him, and I'm like, huh,

1208
01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:58.520
this is interesting, And so I
watched him pitch, watched a couple

1209
01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:01.840
of his like mediocre stars arts,
of which he has a few, and

1210
01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:06.680
the reason that people don't really talk
about him is he's got kind of a

1211
01:27:06.680 --> 01:27:14.760
homer problem. His fastball is not
plus. You know, he's like maybe

1212
01:27:15.079 --> 01:27:19.239
in the low nineties. I don't
think I saw a good velocity this year,

1213
01:27:19.239 --> 01:27:23.119
but last when I when I saw
it last year, he was like

1214
01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:27.199
ninety to ninety three. But it
doesn't seem like it plays up really.

1215
01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:30.000
He commands it, okay, you
know, attacks the zone with it,

1216
01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:32.920
but I think he gets a hit
too. But his plus pitch is his

1217
01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:35.920
split change up, so it's you
know, I think he kind of holds

1218
01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:40.039
it as a split grip, but
he rolls over it like a change up.

1219
01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:43.520
So it's that's his best pitch.
But when he misses with it,

1220
01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:46.720
people hammer it. So he gave
up. I think the most homers in

1221
01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:51.640
his league this year in HIA among
qualified starters. So he definitely had a

1222
01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:56.119
bit of a homer problem. Like
you just go through his name logs,

1223
01:27:56.279 --> 01:28:00.800
that part doesn't help you there.
It doesn't it plays up for and I

1224
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:03.279
wondered if that had something to do
with it. But he had a homer

1225
01:28:03.279 --> 01:28:09.039
problem on the road too, Like
just reading through his game log his last

1226
01:28:09.079 --> 01:28:14.600
start homer, second to last start
to homers his last start away in Rome,

1227
01:28:14.680 --> 01:28:17.680
which it doesn't play well for Homer's
gave up a homer. He just

1228
01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:21.359
like two hommers here, Homer there. It just he gives up so many

1229
01:28:21.399 --> 01:28:28.520
homers. But watching him, I
was intrigued by the skills in and especially

1230
01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:31.199
the split change, like it's an
actual plus pitch. I don't know if

1231
01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:36.640
I want to hang much if that's
his only plus pitch, but if the

1232
01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:42.800
Pirates can coax anything better out of
his slurvy curveball, which I didn't love.

1233
01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:45.479
You know, the shape seemed a
little loopy to be a real slider,

1234
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:50.560
but it wasn't quite as like directionally
downward as you would see for a

1235
01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:54.479
true curveball, so it was kind
of like a mid kind of in betweener

1236
01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:57.680
pitch for me that I didn't really
like its shape. But he had some

1237
01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:03.319
great outings the National's High affiliate in
late July, seven innings, seven k's,

1238
01:29:03.479 --> 01:29:06.640
of course a homer, but only
one walk. He had a short

1239
01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:11.640
outing against Boston's High team, which
had Roman Anthony and a couple of other

1240
01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:15.039
decent prospects, and he went four
and two thirds and punched out twelve with

1241
01:29:15.960 --> 01:29:20.039
two walks and two singles, so
he mixed in a couple of outings that

1242
01:29:20.079 --> 01:29:25.359
you're like, wow, this is
actually pretty good. Again that Boston lineup

1243
01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:30.439
he dominated in June six innings eight
k's, one walk or a homer as

1244
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:33.520
well, but he mixed in some
good outings here and there. There's just

1245
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:38.960
a lot of homers to this guy, and the control seems middling. Like

1246
01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:42.199
he did better as the season went
on, I think as far as limiting

1247
01:29:42.239 --> 01:29:46.520
walks and getting his strikeouts, but
I think he can lose his command a

1248
01:29:46.560 --> 01:29:50.760
bit and work deep into counts.
You know, too many balls, too

1249
01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:57.039
many uncompetitive pitches, and really with
the one plus pitch, I'm not as

1250
01:29:57.239 --> 01:29:59.960
excited about him as some of the
other arms we've talked about, but it's

1251
01:30:00.239 --> 01:30:03.800
he's an interesting guy, and in
this organization. I wonder whether we might

1252
01:30:03.840 --> 01:30:08.279
see the stuff playoff even more as
he gets up into double A next year.

1253
01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:14.079
Well that, uh, that segues
kind of nicely into the Cardinals here

1254
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:19.000
because my B side arms selection for
the Cardinals is also Taiwanese and that's chen

1255
01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:24.560
Way Lynn who I think that that
would make it make it our third Taiwanese

1256
01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:28.760
B side selection, right Awesome?
Yeah, But I think I'm just gonna

1257
01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:31.359
he's technically a first year player this
year because he signed in July, so

1258
01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:34.239
I'm just gonna save him for that
episode. I did write about him a

1259
01:30:34.279 --> 01:30:40.159
little bit in the Dynasty dugout history
here hasn't been super great. Stuck with

1260
01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:43.800
a bat I shouldn't have stuck with
for too many years who's out of baseball

1261
01:30:43.840 --> 01:30:47.239
now. That was Patrick Romery,
who was a prep guy that interests me,

1262
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:50.720
but uh, in the last last
year, I went with Jeremy Reeves,

1263
01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:56.239
who is a plus shortstop whose bat
is not super exciting, but I

1264
01:30:56.279 --> 01:30:59.319
did see he was in the AFL. I think he did some things at

1265
01:30:59.399 --> 01:31:03.319
least started off pretty hot. But
I don't have a ton of fantasy excitement

1266
01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:06.560
with Jeremy Reeves. He's still quite
young. I just don't know if the

1267
01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:10.119
bats are going to get very exciting, but I do think he has a

1268
01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:14.039
glove that could get him a major
league opportunity. And then I went with

1269
01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:17.560
Alexia Decernia, who we talked about
during the draft episode. So I don't

1270
01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:20.399
know. Maybe I don't really have
a whole lot to say here. The

1271
01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:27.119
Cardinals, the organization as a whole. I think there's some interesting stuff going

1272
01:31:27.119 --> 01:31:30.239
on here. I like a little
more of what's happening on the hitter side,

1273
01:31:30.279 --> 01:31:34.720
I think than the pitchers side.
Overall, you know guys that were

1274
01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:40.560
a little bit under the radar,
they're sort of turning them into I think,

1275
01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:45.039
really interesting names that you should pay
attention to in Dynasty. Obviously,

1276
01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:47.199
you know at the top of the
list, like Victor Scott the second I

1277
01:31:47.239 --> 01:31:51.039
think you know, ninety five steals. He's a plus center fielder. He's

1278
01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:55.920
gonna play in the bigs, and
that steals should definitely make you interested in

1279
01:31:55.960 --> 01:31:59.439
your categories in rot leagues, especially
considering he's not a zero with the bat

1280
01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:02.159
Otherwise, Mason Win, I think
he's going to be a major league shortstop.

1281
01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:05.840
I'm not super excited about him for
fantasy as far as impact goes,

1282
01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:11.800
but no, certainly going to I
just I'm not sure that he's gonna steal

1283
01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:16.520
enough to be a threat on the
bases and an asset there, and personally

1284
01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:20.239
just don't think he's going to hit
that many homers. Like he might settle

1285
01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:25.319
into a fifteen to twenty homer bat, but if it's only ten steals at

1286
01:32:25.359 --> 01:32:29.600
shortstop, like that's maybe interesting,
but he's going to play in the bigs,

1287
01:32:29.600 --> 01:32:32.920
and that, of course is as
valuable. He's solid rather than outstanding

1288
01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:38.039
for me. But guys like Luken
Baker, he wasn't on anybody's radar a

1289
01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:42.039
year ago and turned in a monster
year with a ton of power and it's

1290
01:32:42.119 --> 01:32:45.359
real. You know, we'll see
how that plays as as a corner guy,

1291
01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:49.239
first base only guy. And he's
obviously pretty well blocked in Saint Louis,

1292
01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:53.720
But it seems like for you power
focused guys like he might get some

1293
01:32:53.800 --> 01:32:57.399
DHT bets for them too, or
as as a trade piece, you know,

1294
01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:00.479
something interesting. So I found a
bunch a lot of their arms,

1295
01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:04.840
like again just kind of boring.
Yeah, a lot of a lot of

1296
01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:11.000
soft tossers, like they're just searching
for late career Adam Waynwright or something.

1297
01:33:11.239 --> 01:33:14.720
I don't know. I still find
Austin Love kind of interesting. Who was

1298
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:16.640
my pick last year, but he
was another guy who got hurt. Did

1299
01:33:16.680 --> 01:33:21.079
all did all of my b side
arms from this division last year get hurt?

1300
01:33:21.159 --> 01:33:26.840
I think? So he only loved
but he's got kind of a weird,

1301
01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:31.560
weird different arm action, probably more
so more likely a reliever, But

1302
01:33:31.640 --> 01:33:36.840
I also like I almost went with
Ian Biddell, who I've liked since his

1303
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:42.359
college days in Louisville. You know, it's interesting that so you got a

1304
01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:46.079
college guy who gets drafted in twenty
twenty, right, so twenty twenty one

1305
01:33:46.079 --> 01:33:49.239
should be like his first pro year. I don't know. He pitched for

1306
01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:51.479
a little while. Then he has, like Tommy Johnson, all of a

1307
01:33:51.479 --> 01:33:56.680
sudden, you're three years down the
road and this guy is twenty four years

1308
01:33:56.680 --> 01:34:00.159
old and he hasn't gotten past high
A yet. Yep. That might make

1309
01:34:00.399 --> 01:34:04.119
for a nice B side lack of
attention, but I think the Dell is

1310
01:34:04.199 --> 01:34:10.039
kind of interest in the combination of
command and stuff, and that's my B

1311
01:34:10.159 --> 01:34:14.319
side. Oh sweet nice, I'm
glad. Yeah, yeah, he's he's

1312
01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:15.680
he's my B side arm and I
echo what you said. You know,

1313
01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:23.399
the injury kind of hid or pushed
him down any interests that anybody had might

1314
01:34:23.439 --> 01:34:27.319
have had coming out of a high
profile college program like Louisville. But he

1315
01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:32.000
reminds me a bit in approach of
another guy that I had picked in Pearson

1316
01:34:32.079 --> 01:34:36.960
Old his stuff. He doesn't have
quite the level of precision that Ol does,

1317
01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:43.079
but he attacks in a similar way. His slider is his main off

1318
01:34:43.079 --> 01:34:46.319
speed pitch rather than a change up
for like ols his, but you know,

1319
01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:51.199
ninety one to four on the fastball. The slider seems like the gyro

1320
01:34:51.359 --> 01:34:55.560
variety, you know, eighty one
to four, but a lot of sharp

1321
01:34:55.640 --> 01:35:00.640
downward action. He also gets some
whiffs on his change It's like eighty five

1322
01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:02.880
to seven on the change up,
So I'm not sure it has quite the

1323
01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:06.439
separation that you like off of his
fastball, and maybe that's part of what's

1324
01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:12.159
limiting his strikeouts. You know,
twenty seven percent strikeout at hi A for

1325
01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:15.319
a guy's you know, twenty four
it's like okay, but it's not outstanding.

1326
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:17.720
But yeah, I liked, I
liked what I saw. It seemed

1327
01:35:17.760 --> 01:35:21.640
like a picture again, not someone
I'm super excited about. You know,

1328
01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:26.239
it's all without the like allergy to
walks. You know, he had sort

1329
01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:30.279
of average walk rates as opposed to
double plus of old. But I liked.

1330
01:35:30.319 --> 01:35:32.640
I liked what I saw from him, and also agree that the rest

1331
01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:38.680
of the system just isn't that exciting
for me. But that feels like a

1332
01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:43.279
feels like a cardinal picture to me, like totally yeah, yeah, he's

1333
01:35:43.279 --> 01:35:45.880
still just at one percent owned.
And again I think he's still just getting

1334
01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:49.920
going, but he seems likely to
be locked into their double A rotation next

1335
01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:54.920
year, and you know, we'll
see how it comes together. But of

1336
01:35:54.960 --> 01:35:58.640
the pictures, I think he's on
some list too. You know. I

1337
01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:02.039
was, well, sometimes these guys
get on the list but just don't get

1338
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:05.079
the popularity. And then that I
didn't see. I didn't se him on

1339
01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:09.880
Ba's right up or anything. So
yeah, just looking at my little short

1340
01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:15.640
list here for other bats, do
you kind of let Jimmy Crook's potential to

1341
01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:20.479
be a major league catcher? I
don't know how exciting the offensive profile might

1342
01:36:20.520 --> 01:36:24.159
get, but yeah, I mean
he had twelve home runs. I don't

1343
01:36:24.199 --> 01:36:28.279
think he strikes out too much,
slugs a little bit. Yeah. Pedro

1344
01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:30.079
Payes is a guy that I've watched
for a few years, and this guy

1345
01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:34.359
has like massive, massive power,
but it just doesn't really get to it

1346
01:36:34.399 --> 01:36:38.000
too much. I don't have much
hope that he's going to be any sort

1347
01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:43.039
of major league something. I was
curious if you watched any RJ Jaeger Yeager

1348
01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:45.720
I did, what did you think
about He was a twenty twenty two un

1349
01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:49.600
drafted free agent out of Mississippi State, but he was a little interesting in

1350
01:36:49.640 --> 01:36:55.159
me, Like fourteen home runs,
seventeen stolen bases from a corner infield guy

1351
01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:57.840
is kind of interesting. I don't
think he had two big Yeah, he

1352
01:36:57.880 --> 01:37:01.079
only struck out thirteen percent of the
time time like that. I may I

1353
01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:05.119
may have picked him if I had
not really liked I had Acernia so much.

1354
01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:10.000
Yeah, Jager's pretty interesting. He's
the one that I worry a little

1355
01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:13.720
bit about the age to level and
position. Yeah, you know, yeah,

1356
01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:17.600
he's probably first base only the powers
like round down, so it's like,

1357
01:37:17.800 --> 01:37:20.920
you know, he's probably not a
twenty five homer guy, and so

1358
01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:26.359
then it's like you're really gonna play
if you don't have power and you're a

1359
01:37:26.399 --> 01:37:30.279
first base only guy. That was
that was my qualm with him. But

1360
01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:33.039
I but he was alright, undrafted
guy like that. He's not like necessarily

1361
01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:38.520
shattering the statuet. He's got a
lot of guys will have to jump.

1362
01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:44.079
And this was the thing with the
Cardinals minor league organization is it looks like

1363
01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:47.760
a lot of average kind of guys. And I don't even say that in

1364
01:37:47.800 --> 01:37:51.760
a bad way, in it like
you need these guys to be a real

1365
01:37:53.079 --> 01:37:57.560
major league team. Unless you're the
Braves and you lock up nine stars for

1366
01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:00.439
less than their worth for forever.
Like you have to fill out a roster

1367
01:38:00.680 --> 01:38:03.840
like this, you know, not
in the Jerry Depoto way where you can

1368
01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:08.279
like mash two of them together and
turn them into a plus player like he

1369
01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:12.079
seems to be trying to do with
five of the Mariners positions. But you

1370
01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:16.399
need to fill a roster out and
give four hundred plate appearances to, you

1371
01:38:16.439 --> 01:38:21.720
know, a guy like pree To
or somebody like Jaeger, if you know

1372
01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:25.680
he pulls it together. Like those
are the kinds of guys that can fill

1373
01:38:25.680 --> 01:38:29.319
out our roster really nicely, either
on the back of a forty man or

1374
01:38:29.439 --> 01:38:31.399
as a bench bat, and not
be a minus when you put them in

1375
01:38:31.439 --> 01:38:33.920
there. The Cardinals have a ton
of those guys, like a guy that

1376
01:38:33.960 --> 01:38:40.840
I've long really liked in Buddy Kennedy
they signed offseason or traded for. I

1377
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:44.880
forget. He's bounced around from Arizona
to Oakland now to Saint Louis, and

1378
01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:46.479
he's a classic Saint Louis kind of
hitter, right, Like he doesn't strike

1379
01:38:46.520 --> 01:38:49.680
up very much seventeen point five percent
of the time, but walks a ton

1380
01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:54.640
hits a ton of line drives and
at triple A this year ran a one

1381
01:38:54.720 --> 01:38:58.960
twenty four WRC plus with like not
good defense, but you plug him in

1382
01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:02.000
at second or third or first or
whatever, and he's gonna not be a

1383
01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:05.680
black hole in your lineup. And
that is a lot of the Cardinals guys

1384
01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:11.600
are like this, like Preato,
Capriniac done men Linger, Like all these

1385
01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:15.000
guys are guys who have made it
to double A or triple A and seem

1386
01:39:15.079 --> 01:39:19.479
to project as like slightly below average
bats but play a few different positions.

1387
01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:24.199
And that's sort of like the Cardinals
way it seems. As far as development,

1388
01:39:24.439 --> 01:39:29.279
I don't think any of these guys, with the possible exception of Scott

1389
01:39:29.359 --> 01:39:31.520
are going to be a fantasy star. And again, for Scott, it's

1390
01:39:31.520 --> 01:39:36.159
because he has a seventy or eighty
grade tool in his speed and that might

1391
01:39:36.319 --> 01:39:41.960
like play way up. But everybody
else seems pretty like roster filler to me.

1392
01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:45.880
The guy that I picked for my
B side selection here is Mike Antico

1393
01:39:46.279 --> 01:39:49.640
made it to double A. He's
on the older side. There's a little

1394
01:39:49.640 --> 01:39:51.760
bit of swing and miss. You
know, it's not bad. Twenty three

1395
01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:56.439
percent and a ten percent walk rate. Again, those are fine, but

1396
01:39:56.600 --> 01:40:00.159
fifty two steals, which for a
guy who also popped eighteen homers, Okay,

1397
01:40:00.279 --> 01:40:06.840
that might be something, especially in
a roto or categories head head league,

1398
01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:11.520
Like, I'm not thrilled by it. He's not someone that was really

1399
01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:15.399
on my short list for like our
draft, for example, But fifty two

1400
01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:19.279
steals is impressive kind of no matter
where you are, and when the rest

1401
01:40:19.319 --> 01:40:24.159
of the approach isn't awful, you
look at that and you're like, Okay,

1402
01:40:24.199 --> 01:40:28.600
maybe there's something here. So Mike
Antico, he's an outfielder again,

1403
01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:31.800
made it up to double A for
the Cardinals, But worry a little bit

1404
01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.880
that the impact just isn't going to
be there as far as the homers go.

1405
01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:39.760
Although the steels do seem seem pretty
legit. I just think the bat

1406
01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:44.920
might not carry him. And obviously, with ten other guys with somewhat similar

1407
01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:48.000
profiles already in the organization, it
might be tough for him to see playing

1408
01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:51.640
time. And I think that's I
think that's solid. I didn't realize.

1409
01:40:51.760 --> 01:40:56.359
I didn't realize he stole on many
bases. Yeah, it's not totally out

1410
01:40:56.399 --> 01:40:59.960
of character for him, you know, thirty seven oh he hit sixty seven

1411
01:41:00.159 --> 01:41:04.199
over last year. You know,
split between AFL this year or was that

1412
01:41:04.279 --> 01:41:09.000
last year that he was that was
last year. I don't think he was

1413
01:41:09.039 --> 01:41:11.920
there this year. I feel like
he was. I feel like he was

1414
01:41:11.960 --> 01:41:15.199
there. AnyWho, I think hence, uh huh, what do you think

1415
01:41:15.279 --> 01:41:18.840
the percent chances that he is a
major league starter long term? Under five

1416
01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:23.520
percent? Under five? Okay?
Yeah, all right, I mean I'm

1417
01:41:23.640 --> 01:41:26.239
I don't know, thanks for answering
that. I hate questions like that.

1418
01:41:26.279 --> 01:41:28.800
I don't know how to answer those, but uh yeah, I think I

1419
01:41:29.039 --> 01:41:30.600
think I'm with you there. I
think it's very unlikely. Look, I

1420
01:41:30.640 --> 01:41:35.960
don't actually have those percent percentages locked
and loaded in my head. I chose

1421
01:41:36.039 --> 01:41:42.960
five percent to demonstrate my disdain for
that kind of picture. Like, I

1422
01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:48.760
mean, I know that some people
love his stuff, and I've watched enough

1423
01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:51.399
of him, but I'm like,
yeah, I kind of get it.

1424
01:41:51.479 --> 01:41:56.039
Like you can light up the radar
gun. You look at how skinny he

1425
01:41:56.319 --> 01:41:59.079
is and how loose his arm action
is, and you're like, oh,

1426
01:41:59.159 --> 01:42:02.039
there's going to be more or here. But kind of like I asked you

1427
01:42:02.439 --> 01:42:08.279
about Parks, if his stuff is
so good, why doesn't he strike people?

1428
01:42:08.319 --> 01:42:13.079
Out and tink Kents has a career
minor league strikeout rate of like twenty

1429
01:42:13.079 --> 01:42:15.560
four percent or something. Yeah,
it's like, look, if his stuff

1430
01:42:15.600 --> 01:42:20.119
is so good, where are the
cays He's facing shitty hitters, right,

1431
01:42:20.279 --> 01:42:24.560
you know, like they're supposed to
be so much worse in the minor leagues

1432
01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:29.800
and he's just not punching anybody out. You know, he's he's doing a

1433
01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:32.239
little bit better this year with limiting
walks. I think the walks were a

1434
01:42:32.319 --> 01:42:36.119
little bit higher. I guess I
was just on the complex where they were

1435
01:42:36.159 --> 01:42:40.399
a little bit higher. But yeah, the walks ticked up, but less

1436
01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:45.800
than a strikeout per nine. It's
not a heavy ground ball profile. I

1437
01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:49.199
just like I watch him and I'm
just I don't see what's there. I

1438
01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:55.319
don't see why everyone is so in
love with it. So, you know,

1439
01:42:55.439 --> 01:42:59.119
it's like it's like arm talent,
right, Like there's so much love

1440
01:42:59.199 --> 01:43:03.439
for like raw arm talent, and
I I'm just not sure it's even warranted

1441
01:43:03.439 --> 01:43:08.800
there, Like the velocities are good, but the shape or something about it

1442
01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:13.439
must be minus because he doesn't get
whiffs with it, at least not compared

1443
01:43:13.479 --> 01:43:16.479
to how he should. But that
does seem to me like a type that

1444
01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:20.920
dynasty owners will flock to. And
those are the arms that make me the

1445
01:43:20.920 --> 01:43:26.600
most nervous. You know. Yeah, he's twenty and he threw ninety three

1446
01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:30.680
innings this year, so like he's
not going to give you any value at

1447
01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:33.600
all next year for sure, Like
best case scenario frame, he goes great

1448
01:43:33.720 --> 01:43:38.239
and he makes the major leagues,
he'll be up for a cup of coffee

1449
01:43:38.239 --> 01:43:40.319
at the end of the year.
Like he's not. He doesn't have the

1450
01:43:40.359 --> 01:43:44.520
innings to hold down a rotation spot
for any given length of time. And

1451
01:43:44.800 --> 01:43:47.000
yeah, he was up in double
A for a good portion of the year,

1452
01:43:47.159 --> 01:43:53.840
but it wasn't pretty five fip over
that eight seven eight k per nine.

1453
01:43:54.239 --> 01:43:57.840
I just see that kind of production
and I'm like that is so generic.

1454
01:43:58.119 --> 01:44:00.199
And then you watch him and you're
like, okay, well the fastballs

1455
01:44:00.239 --> 01:44:03.720
running up there at ninety eight,
but people are fouling it off or hitting

1456
01:44:03.800 --> 01:44:09.000
it, Like why are we excited
about this? And yeah, Slider's got

1457
01:44:09.039 --> 01:44:11.800
a ton of movement, But if
he's not getting what's with it? Why

1458
01:44:11.800 --> 01:44:15.039
do I care? Like either they're
seeing it out of the hand or that

1459
01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:20.319
movement profile is actually not that good
even if it looks impressive on occasion,

1460
01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:27.399
So I'm just way down. Like
I think Hence and Mizerowski and a couple

1461
01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:31.319
of other guys are in in like
that same range and sort of the fifties

1462
01:44:31.640 --> 01:44:35.840
for a number of prospect rankings.
I think BA has them in similar ranks.

1463
01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:39.359
I think Clegg has them in similar
rankings. And you know, I've

1464
01:44:39.640 --> 01:44:44.920
said before that I just think that
that group is way too highly ranked.

1465
01:44:45.159 --> 01:44:47.239
You know one of them is going
to hit, but you do not know

1466
01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:51.039
which one, and the rest of
them are going to be relievers or not

1467
01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:55.760
make the majors. And that's that's
how I feel about hens is that he's

1468
01:44:55.760 --> 01:45:00.439
in that range. And it's certainly
not like for me trying to for a

1469
01:45:00.439 --> 01:45:04.319
lot of high probability arms. That's
not one that I'm ever gonna roster.

1470
01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:08.119
Yeah no, Yeah, And like
I've said before, I think you've done

1471
01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:14.399
a really good job of identifying guys
that do have a high probability of making

1472
01:45:14.399 --> 01:45:17.840
the big leagues and potentially locking down
a rotation spot. And you've also done

1473
01:45:17.880 --> 01:45:23.960
a good job of highlighting why dynasty
folks probably aren't interested. Yep, I

1474
01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:28.960
don't know. Yeah, a bunch
of steppers and all you all you haters

1475
01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:31.840
out there, like, uh,
maybe you just gotta gotta get a little

1476
01:45:31.880 --> 01:45:36.159
bit more mature and vanilla, if
you will, and take the guys that

1477
01:45:36.199 --> 01:45:41.439
are higher probability starters. It's gonna
be. It's sort of an interesting experiment

1478
01:45:41.479 --> 01:45:45.239
that we're running here in the kinds
of guys we're both talking about in our

1479
01:45:45.399 --> 01:45:49.000
approach, and like, I think
it will be really interesting to see a

1480
01:45:49.079 --> 01:45:53.000
year from now or two years from
now, what the path for some of

1481
01:45:53.039 --> 01:45:56.560
these guys has been. Like just
talking about the five arms that I talked

1482
01:45:56.600 --> 01:46:01.479
about today, Bdell, Chen and
Cardona, I think those three like might

1483
01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:06.039
just absolutely not be anything at all
this time next year, Like they go

1484
01:46:06.199 --> 01:46:10.600
up a level and it actually turns
out their stuff isn't going to play,

1485
01:46:10.880 --> 01:46:15.199
and Keen keeps giving up two homers
per nine or whatever it is, and

1486
01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:18.199
they all are basically done, Like
they're not going to make the major leagues.

1487
01:46:18.279 --> 01:46:21.640
But I feel like one of them
is going to turn into a back

1488
01:46:21.720 --> 01:46:26.680
end kind of starter, you know. And then Henderson, like I'm genuinely

1489
01:46:26.720 --> 01:46:30.319
excited about but again he's done it
just at such low levels, Like who

1490
01:46:30.359 --> 01:46:34.319
knows what the higher levels hold.
Yeah, but I'm pretty interested to see

1491
01:46:34.520 --> 01:46:39.479
to see how that grows. It
makes me curious, like say a thirty

1492
01:46:39.479 --> 01:46:43.920
teen points lead, where you have
like thirty minor league spots right and starting

1493
01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:46.880
pitchers right, there's only so many
to go around. I'm just curious how

1494
01:46:46.920 --> 01:46:51.279
it might work if you just loaded
up your whole minor system these guys that

1495
01:46:51.319 --> 01:46:57.600
you can identify as you know,
potentially a higher likelihood of becoming major league

1496
01:46:57.640 --> 01:47:01.079
starters, and then just using that
to supple whatever you need when they started

1497
01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:05.199
hitting the bigs, because people are
always in need of pitchers in those kinds

1498
01:47:05.239 --> 01:47:10.399
of leagues always. Maybe I'll experiment
and try it somewhere. All right,

1499
01:47:10.800 --> 01:47:15.800
nah and all central not maybe not
quite or at least we didn't get quite

1500
01:47:15.800 --> 01:47:19.680
as excited as the past divisions about
our overall selections. But I don't know,

1501
01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:24.439
I don't know. I liked my
arms in this division, you know,

1502
01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:29.960
yeah, yeah, by Henderson,
but it's like I think he's an

1503
01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:34.520
actual guy. But I gotta go
watch. I was telling you before we

1504
01:47:34.560 --> 01:47:39.720
started recording that they all had something
in common, and it's like a very

1505
01:47:39.840 --> 01:47:43.239
change up heavy approach. You know, four of the five of them,

1506
01:47:43.319 --> 01:47:47.039
their plus pitch is a change up, and even the one who who that's

1507
01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:51.720
not their their plus pitch in Biddell, it's his slider, but it's still

1508
01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:56.199
his change up is decent. So
it was I was in going through this

1509
01:47:56.279 --> 01:47:59.199
like that was not on purpose at
all, but all of them after watching

1510
01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:01.079
them, was like, they all
have really good change ups and Henderson is

1511
01:48:01.119 --> 01:48:05.119
by far the best. Like Henderson's
I think is already very good and we'll

1512
01:48:05.119 --> 01:48:09.640
see, we'll see if he can
keep it going. Obviously dominating and a

1513
01:48:09.720 --> 01:48:12.520
ball is one thing, and continuing
to do it as you go up the

1514
01:48:12.600 --> 01:48:15.640
levels it's harder to do. But
I was as excited about him as any

1515
01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:19.439
a ball arm for sure. This
year my theme with the arms pretty much

1516
01:48:19.479 --> 01:48:26.880
was really raw. Yeah yeah,
really raw with exciting stuff, which isn't

1517
01:48:26.920 --> 01:48:30.159
really my m O. But when
you're talking about potentially free pickups or something

1518
01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:33.760
like that, I'd much rather take
a stab at one of those types down

1519
01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:39.239
here than you know, Misselerowski's.
They pay the premium for Miserrowski here.

1520
01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:44.439
So that will wrap up this episode
of the Prospect. Besides podcast next week

1521
01:48:44.680 --> 01:48:48.720
maybe we will be doing what al
least. You can follow me on Twitter

1522
01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:53.840
at Pitching specs. Don't follow gru
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1523
01:48:53.880 --> 01:48:57.319
one of his evil doing minions.
Hey, you took all the short kings

1524
01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:01.359
tonight. I did What am I
doing? You're rubbing off on me in

1525
01:49:01.399 --> 01:49:04.640
a bad way here, but uh, we'll talk to you next time.

1526
01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:11.279
Till then do well. Audio About
five miles an hour riding to his head,

1527
01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:17.199
he hopped down first with the lumpb
on in his face, and on

1528
01:49:17.239 --> 01:49:28.680
the very next pitch he up and
stole second face with greatst speed. He

1529
01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:34.279
wasn't born, but he had the
dirty Yes uniform.