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You are Locked On 18 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:32.920 Bengals, your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network, 19 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:37.879 your team every day. Well not Bengals fans, and welcome to another 20 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:41.239 episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. I'm your host, Jakelsco. He's your 21 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:44.200 host, James Rapeen. We're part of the Lockdown Podcast network. Here on 22 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:48.439 Lockdown Bengals, covering your team every day on YouTube and everywhere you get your 23 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:51.200 podcasts. If you're new to the show, you can always subscribe. That 24 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:55.400 will make it very easy to see when we upload our content every day and 25 00:01:55.480 --> 00:02:00.120 keep you informed on all things Bengals with the latest and greatest. Today, 26 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:02.120 for example, we're going to catch you up on the Bengal salary cap position 27 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:06.719 and a lot of people are asking about will they sign an offensive lineman, 28 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:08.120 will they sign a corner, will they sign a running back? What about 29 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:14.199 Samaj p Ryan reunion. We'll talk about those possibilities. We'll also get into 30 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:19.439 the punter battle. That's coming this year in training camp and look for impact 31 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:23.879 in year one from this year's draft class and where that's going to come from 32 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:29.560 how likely it is to occur, James. Let's get started with the salary 33 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:34.680 cat situation. According to overthecap dot com, Cincinnati Bengals have about twenty three 34 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:38.039 million dollars in salary cap space. I'll let you know where I have that 35 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:44.159 number. But Will Lou had a question about this is we're gonna do this 36 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.800 mailbag style. The Bengal still have twenty million dollars in salary cap space. 37 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:50.280 Are they going to use it for extensions or will they sign at least one 38 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:53.560 more quality free agent like Elias Campbell, Zavian Howard or Steve Nelson and some 39 00:02:53.719 --> 00:03:00.080 others like Cee Santa Diista on Twitter was also wondering, well they bring in 40 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:05.400 a veteran into your offensive lineman backup er to compete. He's thinking of Dalton 41 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:09.800 Reisner. So a lot of questions like this corner inter your offensive lineman running 42 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:14.120 back. Where are they going to spend that money? Well, they should 43 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:16.280 spend it, and let's start here. The Bengals are going to nestle away 44 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:21.080 a good amount as I come out of the hood on YouTube, and they're 45 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:25.159 going to nestle a good amount of that away for Jamar Chase might not like 46 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:29.639 it. I promise you that's on their mind, and that's high on their 47 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:34.280 priority list, more more so than probably any veteran that they could sign. 48 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:37.840 Now, watch between now and when we oppost this, which there is going 49 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:40.639 to be a few hour gap, they'll sign someone Jake and make me eat 50 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.039 my words. That doesn't mean they shouldn't, because I think they should. 51 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:47.520 And of all those names that you mentioned, I think there are two that 52 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:51.560 stand out that I would sign. Like if Duke Tobin called me, or 53 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:53.479 Katie Blackburn called me, or heck, if Mike Brown called me and said, 54 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:55.879 James, who should we sign? I would say, well, thirty 55 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.680 eight year old Calias Campbell's still got some juice left. And thirty year old 56 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:04.360 twenty nine year old Zavian Howard, well, he could probably shore up that 57 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:11.000 secondary. Give Loua a couple more pieces here, and give yourself a they're 58 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:14.960 probably one year deals, but give yourself two veterans that have been there, 59 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:17.759 done that that are looking for a ring. So those are two names. 60 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:23.279 The other when I think of running backs would be Jerck McKinnon. I think 61 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:26.800 Jack McKinnon some when they were open to signing last year didn't come together. 62 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:30.800 Maybe that could happened this year. But there isn't much out there running back 63 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:33.120 wise, So where do I think the money will go? I think it's 64 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:39.279 extensions number one Jamar Chase, and then a much much smaller extension for Evan 65 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:46.399 Moneymack macpherson, and then after that, I think it'll trickle down to maybe 66 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:49.360 an extension for one of these other veterans. I don't want to get into 67 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:55.240 that today because who knows if it actually happens. But could they sign someone 68 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.680 else? Could they bring in an external free agent? I wouldn't rule it 69 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.680 out. I don't think it will be three like I named, but I 70 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:02.959 could see them signing a corner at some point. I could see them adding 71 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.600 one running back at some point because they didn't draft one. It wouldn't shock 72 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:12.439 me if they did that. You did not mention interior offensive line depth. 73 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.120 They did draft Matt Lee. Of course, they drafted a player that plays 74 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:21.399 one interior offensive line positioned are we are you suggesting they're just happy with their 75 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:27.079 interior offensive line depth behind their starters? How many picks did they have in 76 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.319 this year's draft? Jake, I think as many as I have fingers? 77 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:36.120 All right, so they had ten picks. We talked a decent amount. 78 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:41.279 We spent a lot of time talking about a man rounds three through five. 79 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:46.639 Interior, you get that guard center flex. I just there's no way they 80 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:49.160 didn't like some of those guys. There's just no way right where it didn't 81 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:53.879 line up. I find it very very hard to believe where that was the 82 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:57.360 case. And obviously they get Matt Lee, someone that you are really really 83 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:00.839 really really really bullish on. But your point, yeah, I mean it's 84 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:04.639 it's Cody Ford and Jackson Kirkland. Now they may feel really good about Cody 85 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:10.680 Ford the guard, and if they do, Matt Lee replaces Max Sharping as 86 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:14.920 your backup center potentially, and then there you go. You know, I 87 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.480 do wonder do they think Marius Mims has a little flex there? I don't 88 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:21.279 know, but yeah, I mean would be open to adding one. Of 89 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:26.839 course, I would have drafted one plus Matt Lee. But again, Duke 90 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:31.000 didn't call me to hit hammer the point home. It seems like they're pretty 91 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:35.240 comfortable with their interior. Offensive line deft is what we're getting at here, 92 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:39.519 even though both of us think that it would make sense to bring in a 93 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:43.639 veteran piece that has a bit of a higher history of performance than what they've 94 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:46.319 got. You said, Jackson Kirkland, maybe you met Jackson Carmen. Maybe 95 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:50.160 you met Jackson Kirkland. Jackson Carmen also in the mix for backing up I 96 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:56.879 guess four different offensive line spots, and I still think we expect Jackson Carmen 97 00:06:56.959 --> 00:07:00.000 to be on the roster this year. But outside of that, the depth 98 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:04.959 on this offensive line unit right now does leave me asking questions, even after 99 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:09.160 adding a Marius Wims of Matt Lee in the draft, mostly because Lee, 100 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:13.720 even if he does win the backup center job, it's probably a center only 101 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:17.519 with his size being just north of three hundred is what he played at in 102 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:20.279 college, even though he was down to two eighty eight at the East West 103 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:27.000 trianbal So I would be open to that, but it doesn't seem like to 104 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:30.680 me the Bengals are the type of team that makes these moves. These are 105 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:33.279 the kinds of moves that you know the Baltimore Ravens make. This is a 106 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:38.560 point of criticism for the Cincinnati Bengals bringing in the high quality, low dollar 107 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:45.519 budget older players that are looking for a chance to win. And those are 108 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.399 the players we've talked about, the Colias Campbell's, Aavian Howard's, Steve Nelson's, 109 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:51.680 Jack McKinnon's, Dalton Reisner's, all these players that have been named in 110 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:56.920 the mailbag that you've brought up, James. The Bengals typically don't make those 111 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:00.519 moves, and I would like the Bengals to make those moves, but until 112 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:05.399 they start doing that, it's very hard to predict that they will. They 113 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.720 took a couple of risks in this year, this year's draft, they went 114 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:13.360 against the grain a little bit with what they do from a character standpoint, 115 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:18.439 right in the third round and in the third round of the draft. Yes, 116 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:24.639 but that's different from, you know, spending a million bucks to them 117 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:30.120 a million millions. Look, I know how silly it sounds, but think 118 00:08:30.120 --> 00:08:31.720 about that. That that's what this team is, That that's what this team 119 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:35.519 cares about. I'm just I'm just saying what their perspective is is. They 120 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:41.559 don't like to spend money on aging free agent depth. They haven't done it. 121 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:43.759 When they do it, we'll talk about it more. I think and 122 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:48.080 it's so worth it. It's this and the trade deadline thing are really frustrating. 123 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:54.399 M hmm, because you in this window. In the window is his 124 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:56.879 career, but you have Joe Burrow. They should be really, really good. 125 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:03.679 And maybe maybe they do change and they add someone here. They've changed 126 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:07.279 a lot over the past five years, would not shock me. But until 127 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:09.519 they do it, to your point, we can't say, oh, well, 128 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.919 they're going to do it. But we do remember a time like this 129 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.720 podcast is old enough to remember a time where they did zero in free agency 130 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:20.600 and they waited until now it was like the fifth wave of free agency, 131 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:24.519 and then they'd added like a linebacker. Yeah, so who knows, James 132 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:31.440 Harrison come on down. So all we're asking for is to get that that 133 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:33.200 level. By the way, James Harrison still could have played well for you 134 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:39.600 if you used them right. Get that level of player much much later where 135 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:41.559 you're going to get good value. So who knows, Maybe they'll do it. 136 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:45.720 I'm not going to completely dismiss it. Let's let's keep a little hope 137 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:48.639 a lot. I'm not trying to dismiss it. I'm just saying it's hard 138 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:52.799 to expect it because they haven't done it, that's all. And to your 139 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:54.399 point, the window is his entire career, like you said, but the 140 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.679 window is different. It's going to be, you know, a bay window 141 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.519 right now, maybe a little bit of a bigger window while he's still a 142 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:05.360 little bit cheaper, and then it's maybe gonna get a little bit smaller, 143 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:09.519 but the window's still there. As you can let Joe know. I'll be 144 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:13.919 sure to let Joe know how you feel. It's nothing to do with Joe. 145 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:18.080 It's all to do with how much money the Bengals have to spend around 146 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.919 him. And that's why this draft is so important. Just for the record, 147 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.840 Will did mention twenty plus million in cas space I mentioned over the cap 148 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.360 number. When you account for the practice squad expenses as well, that number 149 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:33.159 is closer to about fifteen million in real cap space that the Bengals are working 150 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.200 with us. So if they do extend one of those veterans, maybe Trey 151 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.559 Hendrickson, maybe Ted Carris, I don't know, striculates whoever you want. 152 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:45.159 Well, Trey Hendrickson wants an extension. I'm just I'm just saying to say 153 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:48.080 it, maybe t Higgins. They finally get over the finish line, which 154 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:52.639 is maybe part of why they're reserving the money just in case. No matter 155 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:58.159 how Landersy's possibilities are, that fifteen million could be eaten up somewhat by extensions 156 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.080 for those guys in Evan McPherson, I think I'm more likely to get signed 157 00:11:01.080 --> 00:11:05.879 by the Bengals than Trey Hendrickson is to get an extension. We'll continue the 158 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:11.399 conversation in this episode by shifting gears and talking about this punter battle expected in 159 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:16.360 training camp, the Bengals spending some of their undrafted free agent money on a 160 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.799 punter. Coming up next, it's time to tell you about Monopoly Go. 161 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:24.039 And let's take a pause for a second. We'll stop talking about how Trey 162 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:28.159 Hendrickson has zero chance to get money into twenty twenty six. Well, it's 163 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.399 not true. 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They have 172 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:15.519 unique mini games as well, like Digging for Treasure or a robot a Chinko 173 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:18.879 machine. And there's also timed events that help you win big like massive multipliers 174 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:24.919 for everything you win, or rent frenzies. There's always something fun to discover 175 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.799 and Monopoly Go, so get off the bench and download it for free on 176 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:33.320 Google Play or the app store. Game on with Monopoly Go, James, 177 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:39.600 A lot of folks are wondering about Austin Magnamara, the Bengals undrafted free agent 178 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:45.639 punter. The question comes from the Bengaloian the Bengalorian on Twitter. Who's winning 179 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:50.200 this punting battle? James to you, Wow, straight to me, I 180 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:52.440 see, I know you have numbers. I'm gonna toss it back to you. 181 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:56.120 I'm gonna toss it back to you. You go ahead, you give 182 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:58.679 me your thoughts on this, and then I will I will share what I 183 00:12:58.679 --> 00:13:05.200 think about Brad Robbins versus Austin mcnaue really throwing a wrench in the normal format. 184 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:09.639 Here. Austin McNamara, according to the punt Analytics the punt Runts on 185 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:16.440 Twitter, was the second best punter available in this draft class. A big 186 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:20.679 legged, big legged punter that has a history of needing to be a little 187 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:28.120 bit more consistent, but stylistically or when you think about the strengths of punters, 188 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:33.240 Austin McNamara's strength is open field punting, meaning you're punting from your own 189 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:35.559 twenty, your own thirty, and you want to really flip the field. 190 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.039 He is not a bad directional punter by any measure, but the strength of 191 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:46.639 his game seems to be the open field punting ability, according to the punt 192 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:52.279 Runts. The punt Runts also said that their top four punters in the twenty 193 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:56.519 twenty four class would have been ranked ahead of the top punter from twenty twenty 194 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:01.519 three. So to them, the only people I know that really study punters 195 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:05.080 in a great deal of depth, and if there's others out there, feel 196 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:09.759 free to comment them. I think there's a YouTube channel as well. Well. 197 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:15.639 Of course, for teams there are employees I knew you did, of 198 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.519 course, of course, like what are we doing? But what are you 199 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.679 doing? The point is is that they saw this as a very strong punter 200 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.399 class. You dive into the individual numbers, and Brad Robbins last year, 201 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:31.000 of course, had a pretty pretty tough year, averaging forty four yards per 202 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:37.679 punt, and Austin mcnamarre did have one year in his collegiate career where he 203 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.480 also only averaged forty four yards per punt. The net for Austin mcnamaray and 204 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:48.120 college forty two yards to Brad Robbins forty yards last year. Similar hang time 205 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:54.399 for both players between college and the NFL game, but as Brad Robins mentioned, 206 00:14:54.720 --> 00:15:00.320 there is some adaptation required when going to the NFL game. Things speed 207 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:03.559 up a little bit when you're punting in the NFL, and there can be 208 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:07.919 an adaptation period. It's also why sometimes you see punters kind of emerge a 209 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.840 little bit later, where they've bounced around and then they sort of figure things 210 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:18.480 out later. Statistically, from a most recent year perspective, I would not 211 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.120 rule out Austin McNamara winning this job, but he does not have the NFL 212 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.600 experience and he does come with a bit of inconsistency in his game according to 213 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:35.039 the punt runs and whether the touchback issue or directional punting is a concern for 214 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.279 this team or not. I think it'll just come down to how these players 215 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:41.120 perform in camping in the preseason. I think it is a true battle. 216 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:45.120 But James, you think that Brad Robbins has perhaps a leg up here. 217 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:48.559 Maybe that's just experience. He's the favorite. I checked the James Orpene Fandel 218 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.360 odds. Brad Robbins is the favorite. And it's pretty simple. You mentioned 219 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:58.639 it. The experience element here is huge. Now, a couple things about 220 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:03.320 Austin McNamara. He looks more like Joe Burrow than he does Brad Robbins six 221 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:07.759 four to two ten, And I don't mean physical appearance, I mean build 222 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:11.480 six four to two ten. I mean if he throws about seven pounds on 223 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.919 he gets in that Black Sheep fitness training and starts trending with Dak and boom, 224 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:19.519 there we go. We have a QB three or QB four here. 225 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:25.519 He could throw a pass or two on a fake. But McNamara did hold 226 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:30.720 on extra points and field goals at Texas Tech, and that's probably that's going 227 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:36.080 to determine how close this battle is does it go down to the wire. 228 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.759 I think I don't really question McNamara the punter, and I think Brad Robbins 229 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.960 certainly has a lot to prove there going into this year. I know he 230 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:48.960 knows that firsthand. And so if McNamara comes in and does what I think 231 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.559 the Bengals think he's capable of from a punning standpoint, well he may have 232 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:56.399 the edge there. But the other element in the honestly, quite frank as 233 00:16:56.399 --> 00:17:00.919 big as it is important as punning is, the more important element is holding. 234 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.279 Because you have one of the best kickers in the NFL who was awesome 235 00:17:03.359 --> 00:17:07.799 last year, and Evan McPherson. You're going to pay him this offseason, 236 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:11.000 so you want to make sure one mate, you find the right guy and 237 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:15.079 give him some stability because he's had about fifty two holders in his short three 238 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.920 year career. But the other element here is is making sure you don't disrupt 239 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:26.480 that because it's the cow Adamitas. Brad Robbins Evan McPherson trio worked really well 240 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.440 last year and that is a huge factor. I know people hate to hear 241 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:33.759 it. They want to think about the booming punts and all that, but 242 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:36.480 that's a huge factor. And so when I look at Brad Robbins the holder, 243 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:41.759 he was about as good as you could imagine or expect or want. 244 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:45.319 And so that's why I think it's fifty nine percent if I had to give 245 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:51.559 it a percentage, and it leans just slightly towards Brad Robbins because of that. 246 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:56.160 Austin McNamara may average fifty plus yards per punt and just dominate in camp 247 00:17:56.240 --> 00:18:00.279 and also be great at holding because he did it at Texas Tech. But 248 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.559 until you do it and you're right the mechanics, something's changed. Daron's going 249 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:06.119 to get him and say, all right, this is what you have to 250 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:08.519 do now, and Evan's going to want him to tweak things like it's just 251 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:12.160 part of it. But if he can get the holding part down, I 252 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:15.319 think it will go a long way towards with him winning the job. And 253 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:18.240 that's what he should be working on right now. So Foston's listening rookie Minnie 254 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:22.160 camps this week, I'd be working on holding just as much as anything, 255 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:25.240 because that's a huge, huge factor in determining the winner of this position. 256 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:30.839 Battle mentioned the averages for just the punting yards just straight up Brad Robbins was 257 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:34.039 thirty first in the NFL last year for punters that had, you know, 258 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:41.599 at least thirty eight punts, and that was at forty four yards per punt. 259 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:45.599 The players below him, Presley Harvin, Lou Headley. Headley was a 260 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:51.799 part timer. Presley Harvin with Pittsburgh did not keep his job. Austin McNamara 261 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:57.680 only cleared that number in three of his college seasons. Significantly, his collegiate 262 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:03.880 average forty five point nine yards per punt, which would put him, you 263 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:10.279 know, twenty sixth in the NFL, or so last year his collegiate average 264 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:12.720 in general. So it's not like they've got a guy here who's averaged forty 265 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:17.119 eight plus fifty plus yards per punt, which is where the top of the 266 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:21.880 NFL is, Ryan Stonehouse, Brian Anger, aj Cole, Michael Dixon all 267 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:25.759 fifty plus yards per punt. It's not like it's that kind of big leg 268 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.720 that they've brought in with McNamara, and they didn't have that with well, 269 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.839 any punch they've had in the building in quite a long time. So whether 270 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:40.759 he does have that consistency that you need, because he clearly can hit big 271 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:45.519 punts, his long punt in every game in the last year for Texas Tech 272 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:48.920 was over fifty yards. But it's the ability to do that on a consistent 273 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:52.440 basis. Then you did hit that eighty three yard punt that you can find 274 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:57.160 on Twitter against West Virginia at some point from his end zone to the other 275 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:00.160 end zone. But the ability to do that consistently, whether it's Shame, 276 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.279 whether it's Brad Robbinson, and you can bind the holding aspect into things, 277 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:07.920 it's going to be the defining factor and who wins the job because both players, 278 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:11.880 I think come with some consistency questions in different ways and in different parts 279 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.799 of their game, and I think that is something that Darren Simmons is probably 280 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:22.400 pretty well over at this point. James is inconsistency from the punters, no 281 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:23.640 doubt, no doubt about it. You got to find the right one. 282 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:27.400 You got to find the one that's consistent and is going to give you the 283 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:30.359 precision you're looking for, the direction you're looking for, but also have the 284 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:34.920 leg and that's where McNamara certainly could show that off. I mentioned the physical 285 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:40.440 attributes his build, and so how about that ten minutes on the punter battle. 286 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:44.119 The sad part is Jake. This is just the beginning. Got a 287 00:20:44.119 --> 00:20:47.319 lot more coming on the punter battle over the next few months ahead of the 288 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:52.359 twenty twenty four NFL season. But Austin McNamara might make an impact. What 289 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:55.920 other rookies could make a year one impact? 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With the Cincinnati Reds 306 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:06.839 again, that's fandle dot Com slash locked on fandle America's number one sports book. 307 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:12.359 Let's talk some more about some rookies. James some questions that fit the 308 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:18.559 theme, where's a year one impact coming from in this draft class? Jay 309 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.319 Bruce eleven sixty six asking does a Marius WMS have a real chance of winning 310 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:30.119 the right tackle job? And creased ball means asking, man, your footing 311 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.559 names are wild? Who is the favorite a wide receiver? Three? I 312 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:38.200 can see a chase case for Charlie Yoshi Burton or even Irwin so Jermae Burton, 313 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:41.880 Marius Men's year one impact? Either? Guy? What do you think? 314 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:48.640 Yeah? I think ooh, I think you could get I mean it 315 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:52.519 depends on a marius but like he could play twelve hundred snaps for eleven hundred 316 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:56.000 snaps, he could get all of them. If it goes that way. 317 00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:57.480 I think there's a chance for him to win the right tackle job. I 318 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:03.279 don't think it's likely, obviously we know Trent Brown's injury history. I think 319 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.440 Burton and Chris Jenkins right away have a role because you play more than two 320 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:11.880 receivers, you play more than two defensive tackles, and so it's easier there 321 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:15.759 to see the path and so they're going to make an impact right away. 322 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:21.079 Whether it's a heck, could Eric All be in the mix? I think 323 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:25.160 he would be if he were healthy, but that's a question mark. There 324 00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:27.000 are a lot of these guys I could see making an impact right away. 325 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:32.599 I think Josh Newton certainly is going to be there and taking reps on defense 326 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:34.599 and special teams and all of those things. So I just went through the 327 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:41.680 fifth round. Now, Amarus, it's more of about a health standpoint, 328 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:45.920 or can he beat out Trent Brown and just amaze the coaching staff, because 329 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.440 that's what I think he would have to do. I think he'd have to 330 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:52.720 blow them away and throughout this offseason program and training camp to beat out Trent 331 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.640 Brown, assuming Trent is playing at the level we expect him to, but 332 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:00.720 it's still possible. Of all of them, though, I think Jenkins makes 333 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:03.519 the biggest impact. I think he's ready to go. I think he's going 334 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:11.400 to be a plus run defender right away and give them what they really did 335 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:14.359 need because they needed someone else that could defend the run. They were bad 336 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:18.200 against it last year, even with DJ Reader and so Sheldon Rankins, BJ 337 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:21.839 Hill, Chris Jenkins huge impact, and then of course Burton's going to make 338 00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:25.079 an impact as well right away. Yeah. I think that the question as 339 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.079 to whether or not Mems can win the right tackle job in camp. I 340 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:32.880 think that's a pretty tough ask for Mems. And I said going into the 341 00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:34.799 draft that whoever they draft at eighteen, if it's a tackle, should be 342 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.640 competing for the starting right tackle job. I still believe that he should be 343 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:41.359 competing for the starting right tackle job. But Trent Brown, when he's motivated, 344 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:45.759 when he's put together, when he's on the field, when he's healthy, 345 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:51.240 it's a really good player and a really unique player at his size, 346 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:56.359 being bigger than Orlando Brown, being bigger than a Marius Mims. But if 347 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:02.759 Mems does put it together quickly and is up to speed and is executing the 348 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:06.200 way they want him to execute, and understands the offense the way they need 349 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:11.680 him to understand the offense and establishes that quick report with right guard Alex Kappa 350 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:15.880 right away, there's a chance, because the ceiling is higher, he could 351 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.599 be a better player pretty quickly if he puts all those things together. But 352 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:25.480 more likely is that they go with a veteran to start and Amarus Mims can 353 00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:29.640 pick up those mental pieces get that experience over time, because I do think 354 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:33.880 that the preseason rest will be invaluable for Mims. He will need those Those 355 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.720 will be important for his development, and he'll need a lot of them. 356 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.000 So I think we will continue to see a lot of that throughout the offseason 357 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:45.480 program and into the preseason. The other question here, James, you talked 358 00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:48.599 about the ability for Burton to make an impact, but you didn't address who 359 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.480 you think is a favorite for wide receiver three, and that's kind of part 360 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:56.319 of the theme here. You got Charlie Jones, Andre Josebash, Jermaine Burton, 361 00:25:56.319 --> 00:26:00.279 Trent and Irwin all solidly in the mix there for for different reasons. 362 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:07.559 Do you think Burton Mike Asiki that's a fair point, and like also also 363 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.160 in that mix, like he should be mentioned because he's going to play a 364 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:14.359 factor in it for sure. No, absolutely, I mean Gaseki will play 365 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:18.279 at least a couple hundred slot snaps for this team this year as essentially a 366 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.839 wide receiver. You might technically call it twelve personnel because he's still listed as 367 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.559 a tight end, but he's going to eat into the slot snap rotation. 368 00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:29.480 And I think that's what it is, is that it's a rotation. And 369 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.039 you might see all of these guys deployed in different ways. But who do 370 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:41.279 you think uh is the leader in the James Rapeen probability calculator for the most 371 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:45.480 snaps or how would you handicap most to least snaps for that group? Yeah, 372 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.640 it would be it would start obviously it would be Jamar t and for 373 00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:52.279 a full season, it's going to be Jermaine T. Higgins once upon a 374 00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.559 time didn't play much his first NFL game, and then by mid game two 375 00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.480 he was out there and then boom takes off and that's how it went. 376 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.839 And that might be that way with Jermaine Burton where and it might take more 377 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:08.400 than two weeks, but you may see him out there for fifteen snaps week 378 00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:12.359 one and Trent Nuura went out there and Charlie Jones andre yosse about all these 379 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:15.799 guys getting reps, and I do think that they could, and they're confident 380 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:21.240 in all of them. And so the reason I'm bullish on Burton though, 381 00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:25.799 is he gives you something vertically that these other guys don't, and so as 382 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:30.000 he gets more familiar with the offense more comfortable, it shows that he can 383 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.359 one win downfield still at the NFL level, but two pick up some of 384 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:40.519 the nuance of the slot snaps. That's part of it. But I will 385 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.759 say, what if Charlie Jones comes in and shows he can be a slot 386 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:48.440 and be the guy they thought he could be, then it gets interesting too, 387 00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:49.400 right, So I do I agree with you. I think it's going 388 00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.599 to be a rotation. It isn't going to be a big three, so 389 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:57.440 to speak. Yet. I think Burton could by mid season or a little 390 00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:02.039 later, start to get more and more snaps. But it's going to be 391 00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:06.119 a rotation where I think Burton is still the favorite for a season long to 392 00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.599 get the most snaps there, but they trust Trenton Irwin. I think there's 393 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:15.079 an opportunity for Charlie Jones to show and earn that trust. And if so, 394 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.599 heck he may start Week one. That wouldn't shock me. Obviously. 395 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.480 They really like Irwin and Josevash as well on the outside, and maybe one 396 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.880 of those guys starts that first snap and you have Chas in the slot snap 397 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.000 one of week one. Who knows. But I do think all of these 398 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:34.480 guys are going to get a real chance to play, and Burton ultimately I 399 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.119 expect his talent to win out and take over by midyear. Yeah, you 400 00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:44.599 can see all of these players having different roles in different spots for different kinds 401 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:48.960 of route concepts, for different routes that they're running for different strategies in the 402 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.920 game as far as where they're trying to attack on the field in the passing 403 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.519 game, as far as where they are is rum blockers. Which of these 404 00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.200 guys is going to be the rum blocker that they trust the most because that 405 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.960 is a big factor in getting on the field. As much as we talk 406 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:08.680 about receiving ability for these guys, which of these players between Jones, Josebash, 407 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:12.640 Burton, Irwin is going to be the one that they default to when 408 00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:17.319 they want to present a mixed look on a mixed down where it's not just 409 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:21.119 a passing down, because on a passing down, you probably want your most 410 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:23.880 talented receiver out there for the most part, right in terms of receiving ability 411 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.440 straight up, But on the mixed downs, on the base downs, you 412 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.960 need to have a guy that you can trust to run block because a lot 413 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:37.039 of these plays are going to be alerts or run pass options where you need 414 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:42.319 guys that are able to do both, or you'll have Joe Burrow dictating traffic 415 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.079 at the line of scrimmage. So that run blocking ability, I think is 416 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.440 something that we will have to watch through the preseason because I think all these 417 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.920 guys are going to play in the preseason, and their willingness and ability to 418 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.400 execute and be in the right place at the right time is going to be 419 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.640 a factor certainly. And I just think back to when I was watching some 420 00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.440 wider receivers for the draft, and some of these guys just really did not 421 00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:08.319 look interested in rum blocking and wide receiver the effort was entirely locking. So 422 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.319 that will be a factor for sure in this rotation that we're going to see 423 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:18.640 developed. It's similar to the holding element, where it's not as big of 424 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.759 a factor. Of course that's half of the punter's job, but where it 425 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.759 goes under the radar. But it's such a factor, and I'm sure there 426 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:27.440 was frustration there last year, no doubt. Oh yeah, especially for coaches. 427 00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:30.640 It's a big factor more so than no doubt, is it. Well, 428 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.920 that's what I mean. Yeah, And it's such a frustrating thing when 429 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.839 you know they're capable. And so, by the way, if you're Jermaine 430 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.279 Burton, I mentioned all the route running stuff, but you want to find 431 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:42.440 another way to get on the field. If you're Charlie Jones, you want 432 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:48.079 to show that you are the slot of the future, which he still could 433 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.559 be. I know, it feels weird, like could we not see him 434 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.039 be the slot of the future If he pops this year, he could absolutely 435 00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:59.319 do that. So I think blocking is certainly an element that all of these 436 00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.599 guys are going to have the show. Like you said, we'll see how 437 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:06.119 that plays out Rookie Mini caamp later this week, and of course we'll see 438 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.400 how these start to develop in training camp in a few months as well. 439 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.240 This week, though, we've got Brandon Thorn joining us in a couple of 440 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:15.680 days to talk a little bit about the Bengals offensive line and their additions to 441 00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.279 that unit. Until then, thanks for listening to this episode of the Lockdown 442 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:30.160 Bengals podcast. Who Day, and have a good one. 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