1 00:00:06,839 --> 00:00:10,160 My name is Isaiah Jackson, and this is Gary Leland and you're listening the 2 00:00:10,199 --> 00:00:15,199 episode one forty two of the Crypto Cousins podcast. Beat your interest in bitcoin 3 00:00:15,279 --> 00:00:21,679 and cryptocurrencies by joining Hall of Fame podcaster Gary Leland on the Crypto Cousins podcast. 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:27,559 And remember we are all cousins in the world of crypto. This week's 5 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,359 price of bitcoin nine thousand, six hundred and fifty three dollars. That's up 6 00:00:32,359 --> 00:00:36,479 one hundred and forty two dollars or one point five percent over the past seven 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,159 days. How how do you? How do you? Welcome to the show, 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,920 Isaiah? Oh, yeah, thank you for having me. Glad to 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,759 be here. It turns out that we kind of grew up close to each 10 00:00:46,759 --> 00:00:49,799 other, but at like way different time periods. Dude, I'm from South 11 00:00:49,799 --> 00:00:53,960 Carolina and you're from North Carolina. Oh the good old Carolina is yep, 12 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,479 from Charlotte and uh yeah in the South Carolina a lot. And my dad 13 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,039 lives the lives there now. So we're at in top Rock Hill right across 14 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:03,400 the state line. So yeah, yeah, I live. I lived down 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,959 on James Island outside of Charleston. So that's about three It's about they have 16 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,000 about three four hours. Ok. Yeah, yeah. My grandmother's from Charleston, 17 00:01:12,079 --> 00:01:15,159 so a lot of family in South Carolina. Yeah yeah, Charleston was 18 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:17,920 a good place to grew up as a kid. Well, we grew up 19 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,319 on island. It was good out there because we were at the beach all 20 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:23,239 the damn time. Yeah. Oh yeah, I say, yeah, you 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,200 got the beach. It can't be too bad. Yeah. Yeah. You 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,599 come from a family of teachers though, right, absolutely. Um, so 23 00:01:29,879 --> 00:01:33,120 my mother is teacher. Grandmother was a teacher. I have an aunt set 24 00:01:33,159 --> 00:01:38,239 of teachers. I have cousins around the country who are in the education system, 25 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,920 either on school board, the principals. So yes, grew up in 26 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,079 the education system a lot, and so my mom teach for over twenty five 27 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:49,439 years. Now, that's a big move, you know, moving from Charlotte, 28 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,239 North Carolina to LA. I mean I moved from, like said, 29 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:56,120 Charleston to Dallas, Texas. And I thought that was a bigger move yours. 30 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:59,000 It's a bigger move than mine. And what made you decide to move 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,879 out to LA. I started KRB Digital Assets Group with my business partner, 32 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,079 King. Our consultant was doing fine, but we were on different coats. 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,479 He was already in LA and he was just getting out of the Navy, 34 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,240 and he was in LA and I was in Charlotte, and we decided we 35 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,199 need to do a daily show to get the information out faster, which is 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:22,520 called The Gentleman of Crypto. And he convinced me one summer twenty seventeen to 37 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,080 come out and hang out with him, just to see what it's like. 38 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:30,120 And then September that year, I got my car in Charlotte and drove out 39 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,039 here to LA which was for the most fun days. But yeah, it 40 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,520 was a pretty big move, but I was just ready. I was ready 41 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,439 to move anyway. And it worked out because the show was now that five 42 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,919 hundred and seventy episodes and been going strong ever since, and our businesses has 43 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:49,039 increased as well. You're five hundred and seventy, Mike four minute Bitcoin Show 44 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,800 is five eighty one, so I'm just barely ahead of you. It's every 45 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,919 weekday I do like you do. It's funny. I drove out here a 46 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,240 long time ago. That was a long time ago. I was twenty nine, 47 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,039 I guess at the time time, and that was a big disruption or 48 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,800 change in your lifestyle. When you move that far away, so you were 49 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,960 already in crypto, though you discovered crypto when you were in North Carolina and 50 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,759 then moved out to La So twenty thirteen is when I found out about it. 51 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:17,400 Ironically from a banker. I found out about it, and you know, 52 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,800 I was in Riley at the time. I was a teacher, and 53 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,840 you know, when you're in your twenties, still trying to find your way, 54 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,800 almost anything, you'll try it. The good thing is I understood the 55 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,719 reason for bitcoin more than the price, being tech based and working in I 56 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,919 over the year just help reassure that. So yeah, I started out in 57 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,919 North Carolina and then when I came to California just took it up a notch. 58 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:44,599 Tell me about the gentleman of crypto. So it's a daily show. 59 00:03:44,719 --> 00:03:49,520 It comes on that ten AM specific time and we go through news updates and 60 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,719 answer questions for anybody who pops into the live, live show. And most 61 00:03:53,719 --> 00:03:58,599 of our crowd has stuck since twenty seventeen, twenty and eighteen. After that 62 00:03:58,639 --> 00:04:03,360 bull run in December two the seventeen, everybody everybody wanted to know about bigcoins, 63 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,400 so we gained a big crowd, but they've stuck because we've consistently put 64 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,639 out, you know, content that is relevant to the time as well as 65 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:15,639 it's live, so you know you're speaking to people who know what they're talking 66 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,120 about. Some people, you know, they are okay in the crypto space, 67 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:24,439 but they prerecord everything and they have a script. We literally go live 68 00:04:24,439 --> 00:04:27,639 every day and can answer whatever questions you have. So yeah, it's the 69 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,199 general Crypto has really taken off. Yeah. Yeah, my four minute crypto 70 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,879 is a script. But I gotta get my info out in four minutes, 71 00:04:33,199 --> 00:04:35,240 all right. I'm not gonna be able to if I don't script it, 72 00:04:35,319 --> 00:04:38,720 right, I'm not gonna do it in four minutes, So I got to 73 00:04:38,759 --> 00:04:42,199 really cut it down. But this show I record also, though I don't 74 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,199 do much editing unless someone says, hey, don't put that in there, 75 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,759 but you know our someone screws ever something like that. But you know, 76 00:04:47,959 --> 00:04:55,480 I find that I enjoy watching live shows and I'd like to get in there. 77 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,439 I just can't find out time. Some day I find someone like you 78 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,439 have that's a partner that I can work with, that can like handle that 79 00:05:01,519 --> 00:05:03,759 in that, you know, and we could build a show, because I 80 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:06,959 think those are great shows when you can bring in questions like that, and 81 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,319 I'm sure that's what you do. You have people to ask you questions during 82 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,199 the show and you can answer the questions live. Absolutely. Yep. We 83 00:05:14,199 --> 00:05:17,759 answer questions every day anything going on in the market. So I'm opinionated mostly 84 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,079 facts. But yeah, any questions you have and pop in on The Gentleman 85 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,439 of Crypto and ask away, is that at general in the Crypto dot com? 86 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:28,399 Or how do people find that on YouTube? You can find us at 87 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,680 the Gentleman of Crypto yep. And website is being rebuilt, so I don't 88 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,600 want to put it out now, but it will be up as well. 89 00:05:34,759 --> 00:05:39,600 Okay, Now, really, I think I don't know if this is what 90 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,040 you're most known for, but this is kind of like your hot thing right 91 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:45,600 now, I guess is your book. Yep, Bigcoin in Black America. 92 00:05:45,639 --> 00:05:47,240 So let's jump to that real quick too, and tell us about your book. 93 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,399 Just give us a rundown on it real quick. Oh yeah, so, 94 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:56,480 Bigcoin in Black America was written and published last year July eleventh, twenty 95 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,160 nineteen. And a fun fact, the only time Resident Trump has ever tweeted 96 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,800 about bitcoin was on the date my book was released, So that kind of 97 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,000 gave it some a boost when it first came out, and since then, 98 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:11,720 Yeah, that's what I said. It's free promotion. I didn't have to 99 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,800 pay for it, but a lot of people google bitcoin and bigcoin and Black 100 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,040 America came up for a lot of people. So that book came out, 101 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:21,519 and one of the things I wanted to do was make my message more efficient 102 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,040 and get it to as many people as possible. And I also wanted to 103 00:06:26,079 --> 00:06:30,800 make sure that the black community realizes that bitcoin is a great opportunity for us 104 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:34,759 economically, even though we don't much. You know, many black people don't 105 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:40,079 know about it, and unfortunately, the media does a good job of that 106 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:45,000 misinformation because you know, bitcoin was tulips, Bitcoin was a scam, It's 107 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,839 used by drug dealers. All of that stuff is what the media says. 108 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,959 So I wanted to write a concise book for the people in my community so 109 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,759 that they could read it, apply it, and see that a regular person 110 00:06:55,879 --> 00:07:00,040 such as myself has been a bitcoin for years now, and I'm not a 111 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,279 nuclear physicist or you know, one of the you know, one of the 112 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,959 super smart people was just learning it and applying it. So wrote the book 113 00:07:05,959 --> 00:07:09,439 for that reason. And I'm glad people are taking a liking to it and 114 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,040 are able to process the knowledge. What motivated you really to write this book 115 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,480 because you knew the content and so I mean, what made you say, 116 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,279 Hey, I'm going to write this stake for a book because you could written 117 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:21,920 them him at anything. Yeah, So the idea. I started thinking about 118 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:29,040 it twenty sixteen after it was following the Mike Brown protest they got killed in 119 00:07:29,079 --> 00:07:32,480 Ferguson and one of the things I wanted to do is what is happening now? 120 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Protest again? I wanted to stop him from happening because I wanted us 121 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:41,279 to have an economic solution so that we could control the neighborhoods that are being 122 00:07:41,399 --> 00:07:45,319 terrorized. And started thinking about it the same roommate that told me about bitcoin. 123 00:07:45,399 --> 00:07:47,120 I kicked around the idea with him. He loved it, and then 124 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:49,519 I was like, well, write it when it's time. And that's how 125 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:55,160 it came about. And I started writing writing it in two nineteen and finished 126 00:07:55,199 --> 00:08:00,319 it that year. And you know, one of the biggest motivations too, 127 00:08:00,519 --> 00:08:03,680 was to get the book out before something like what's happened the last couple of 128 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,680 months happened, because if I just wrote the book and just published it. 129 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,879 I could be seen as an opportunists or somebody who's trying to take advantage of 130 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:11,639 the moment. But I tell people, I've been talking about this for years, 131 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:16,920 So I saw this exactly, yeah, exactly. So that's that was 132 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,319 sort of the urgency of getting it out last year because I knew twenty twenty 133 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:24,319 was gonna be pretty big. Yeah. So you know, I think that 134 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:30,839 I saw well, I didn't think I saw maybe two weeks ago video on 135 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,480 I think of me. I saw it on Twitter of you may have seen 136 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:37,279 the same video of At a Black Lives Movement meeting, someone was speaking and 137 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:41,679 he said to the crowd, you know, we have got to get into 138 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,320 bitcoin. Basically, you know, we are using the money that is holding 139 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:50,200 us back. You know, we're putting them, We're keeping them in power 140 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,879 by using their money. And even if you spend five dollars, you know, 141 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,039 or ten dollars on bitcoin, you're doing something to help the people basically 142 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,399 instead of helping the banks that are holding us down. I thought it was 143 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,279 a pretty powerful message that the guy made. You know, you know a 144 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,840 video I'm talking about, Oh yeah, absolutely. It was made out here 145 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:13,639 in La on the it was downtown, I believe. And it was funny 146 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:16,320 because when the video started circulating, because he had a mask on and people 147 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,720 couldn't see him, people thought it was me because people I live in LA's 148 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:22,519 people know I live in La so I did. I got a lot of 149 00:09:22,519 --> 00:09:26,080 messages on Twitter from people saying, was that you? But did you sneak 150 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,360 into a protest and set because they had never I guess heard the black person 151 00:09:30,399 --> 00:09:33,720 be that open about bitcoin in public, And I said, no, it's 152 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,759 we're waking up. People are starting to realize, Yeah, the thing that 153 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,039 is holding us back, the root of the problem is the money system. 154 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,240 So I was glad to see that. I followed him on Twitter, talked 155 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,000 to him a couple of times. So yeah, it's great to see and 156 00:09:46,039 --> 00:09:48,360 I think some people got the message, but I think most people will. 157 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:56,159 With news such as PayPal today, well that's very big. News becomes true 158 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,320 if it's not a rumor, I mean, yeah, exactly exactly. If 159 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,000 it comes true, that'll be great because then people will say, hey, 160 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,519 this isn't going away. I mean I think cash ip was enough proof that 161 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:09,360 it's not going away. Then accepting or allowing people to buy a bigcoin but 162 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:13,399 yes, glad that message got out and I got offered money from other sources 163 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,279 to go to a protest and do the same thing. But I was like, 164 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,080 that was organic, that was perfect. That's exactly how it should be. 165 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,559 Nobody was expecting it. So I love it. And in case you're 166 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,440 listening and you don't know what Isaiah and I are talking about. With the 167 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,159 news, it was a news news article came out to Day this rumored that 168 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:35,559 PayPal and Vimeo are going to start selling bitcoin and maybe maybe the announcement to 169 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,080 be made within the next three months or something if I'm correct, which like 170 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,559 you said, that'd be I mean, what do they have like one hundred 171 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,360 and fifty million users or something. Heck if he even three hundred million. 172 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Yeah, so even if one percent of them joining up a lot of people, 173 00:10:52,799 --> 00:10:54,200 Yeah, that could start incredibly Yeah. I saw that. I had 174 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,279 seen I saw that, Like I said, that guy give us a talk, 175 00:10:58,279 --> 00:11:03,080 and I've seen a sign here and there during an event, you know, 176 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:09,399 buy bitcoin, blah blah blah bitcoin. But I wish we would see 177 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,480 more of that because I think you're I think you've got a great point. 178 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:15,200 That's a great way I think I made a post about it two weeks ago, 179 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:18,960 so saying, you know, it seems to me like buying bitcoin would 180 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,600 be a good way to get a point, your point across, or anyone 181 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:26,120 to get their point across and accomplish what they want if you d fund the 182 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,240 people who are causing your problems exactly. I mean, I don't know, 183 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:31,639 it don't sound like rocket science to me. I mean, yeah, yeah, 184 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,559 it sounds so simple. It's complicated, you know. I mean you 185 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,679 tell people that they're like, now, it's gotta be more we gotta do. 186 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:41,200 And I was like, honestly, the most peaceful protests you can have 187 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,440 is just simply buying bitcoin, take your money out of the banks, stop 188 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,639 using their services. At least if you start using bitcoin, and there's a 189 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,600 push from the black community to use bitcoin, at the very least, they'll 190 00:11:52,639 --> 00:11:56,639 have to change their practices, even if banks don't go away forever. And 191 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,919 you know, like some people think at the at least how to change their 192 00:12:00,919 --> 00:12:03,919 practices, and they will have to offer a better product in order to get 193 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:07,440 your business. Because bitcoin is becoming more and more you know, easier to 194 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,320 use. Onboarding is a lot easier. So yes, I think bitcoin can 195 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,759 get the banks back in line, and you're right. I think that's the 196 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:16,440 best way for us to protest. I think it's kind of like when I 197 00:12:16,519 --> 00:12:18,960 was a kid, being a little kid. You know, Martin Luther King 198 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:26,320 led protests and you know, peaceful protests. But if stores during the civil 199 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:33,600 right movements, we're not caring about the black consumer and treating him not in 200 00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:37,279 a good way. They had times when they just would quit shopping, boycott. 201 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,559 Yeah, thanks, And then when they boycotted and they said, geez, 202 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,360 we need that business. We're gonna ride a business. We didn't need 203 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:48,120 to change our tunes. Because money is a big, big mover in this 204 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:54,960 country. Money is like sometimes the only thing people understand exactly. And the 205 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:00,000 boycott, the Montgomery bus boycott that they did after Rosa Parks wasn't allowed. 206 00:13:00,039 --> 00:13:03,960 They bankbrupted them. They had to. It was probably you know, two 207 00:13:03,039 --> 00:13:07,320 busting companies. And once that one big one with bankrupt, like six new 208 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,639 ones popped up because they simply didn't give them their money. And you know, 209 00:13:11,919 --> 00:13:13,480 that is one way to do it, but at the time they didn't 210 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,720 have bigcoin. Now we can go a step further and we can be fund 211 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:22,720 the entire system that is literally the only thing fund in your terror right now. 212 00:13:22,799 --> 00:13:24,600 So if you actually want to solve the problem, you got to go 213 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,200 to the source. All this other stuff is mostly smoking mirrors. But once 214 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,159 you start talking about the source, I think we'll get a better understanding than 215 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,919 of how to solve the issues. Yeah, I agree with you a hundred 216 00:13:33,919 --> 00:13:37,559 percent. I think that is good. And I think your book if your 217 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,399 book, like I said I told you earlier, I'm in the middle of 218 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,960 another book that I saw you recommend, actually had a cost price of tomorrow. 219 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,240 I think the price is tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, number halfway through. 220 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,320 So I'm gonna read yours next. So if your book's going into that, 221 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:52,600 I think that's a great message that I believe in also, so I'm 222 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,600 kind of excited to get into that and read that book there. I didn't 223 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:01,480 realize though, that during the Montgomery situation with Rosa Parks, I knew there 224 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:07,320 was boycotts. I didn't realize they actually because of the boycotts that the bus 225 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,440 company that caused the whole issue went out of business. Yep, they boycotted 226 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:16,720 them for a whole year. So it'll put you out of business. That'll 227 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:18,639 put you out of business. So yeah, and even though it was publicly 228 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,840 funded, so to say, it was private interests involved and they had to 229 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:26,279 restructure and start all over. So yep, it works, and it's been 230 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,879 done with other businesses, just not as much today, only because I think 231 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,000 a lot of people in the black community don't know that their dollars are going 232 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:35,759 towards companies who are funding their terror. A lot of the big corporations, 233 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,799 a lot of the private prisons that are built, a lot of the police 234 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,559 violence we've seen as all as a result of the money you use. So 235 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,519 we got to find a different way. I met Rosa Parks maybe fifteen years 236 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:52,000 ago, and you wouldn't think that such a little woman would be so powerful. 237 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,000 I mean to be honest with you, because she's just a small little 238 00:14:56,039 --> 00:15:00,639 woman. But she had a power and she was determined. If a little 239 00:15:00,679 --> 00:15:03,559 woman, a little lady can do that start something like that, anything can 240 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:07,720 be started. And bitcoin can definitely go that way. How are sales going 241 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,639 with the book? By the way, before I go further, are they 242 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,600 Are they what you expected? Or are they doing better? Actually, last 243 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,360 two weeks volume has been exponential. I sold about ten times as many books 244 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:24,120 in the last two weeks that I have the entire year. So as far 245 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:26,360 as it picking up, I think people starting to see the message. I 246 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,440 had about four or five new bookstores that are carrying it, so sales are 247 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,720 going good. I'm just happy people are finally seeing that this is a solution 248 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,639 more than just you know, bitcoin price go up. It's like no, 249 00:15:37,639 --> 00:15:41,679 no, no, it's actually solution based and we're getting a lot of new 250 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,120 eyes on it. So, you know, people who are older is sort 251 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:50,759 of the crowd I was going for as far as getting them simple explanations, 252 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,120 and also younger crowds college and young high school and younger so that they are 253 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,600 introduced to it. So people in the middle middle class like us, you 254 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,000 know, you kind of want to just keep it in the road. You 255 00:16:02,039 --> 00:16:03,519 got kids, you got a mortgage. It's kind of hard to discuss it 256 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:06,960 with them. But the younger generation as well as the older people who may 257 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,919 have lived them more money. I definitely wanted this book to be simple for 258 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,840 them. Well, I think you know, that's a real problem with the 259 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,440 bitcoin is that people a lot of people see it as orange cooin goes up, 260 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:19,480 only you know, and they don't realize it's anything but an investment vehicle, 261 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,000 and then they got, no, that's that's way too volatile of an 262 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:26,519 investment vehicle for me. And really that's not all it is. They just 263 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:30,759 don't don't see it that way. And I was telling you before the show, 264 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:33,240 you know, I think I face some of the same issues you face, 265 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:38,440 but in talking to boomers, you know, because they're like, may 266 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,519 it maybe even be worse, they probably are the worst of all to deal 267 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:45,440 with because they're all setting their ways. It's stuck. Yeah, it's definite 268 00:16:45,559 --> 00:16:48,080 ways. And as I posted this morning on Twitter, you know, a 269 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,879 lot of boomers at least ways that I hang out with or retired and they're 270 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,440 pretty much set. I mean, maybe they're not going to be any wealthier, 271 00:16:56,559 --> 00:17:00,840 but they pretty much can live the rest of their lives and have their 272 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,359 bills paid and take a trip here and there and see their kids and eat 273 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,960 and not have to worry about anything. So they're kind of going, why 274 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,160 do I need to take a chance. You know, I'm already sevent dy, 275 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,519 and I'm already I know I'm gonna I know I got enough money and 276 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:18,039 with Social Security and with Medicare that I could live the rest of my life. 277 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,680 You know, and why I take a chance. So I'm going for 278 00:17:19,799 --> 00:17:23,720 the orange coin go up, and then at that and now I'm red, 279 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,079 you know at seventy Yeah. True. And one thing I always tell older 280 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,960 people of older generations. One thing I tell them is the trust you have 281 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,279 in your pension and your retirement, it only takes one time for it to 282 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,119 crack, the one time you can't take your money out of your pension, 283 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,400 or the one time banks going solving like an O eight and they can't give 284 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,559 you your money. It only takes once for them to in my mind to 285 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,960 be like, okay, well the trust we were promised is not here with 286 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,799 Bigcoin. Supposedly Bigcoin has died a thousand times. Somehow it's still here. 287 00:17:56,279 --> 00:18:00,960 It went from six cent to almost ten thousand. So volatility is great if 288 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,240 it's in your favorite So you know, I trying to remind them that, 289 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,960 look, big Point could fail a million times in your mind, but it's 290 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,000 never actually going anywhere. That pension fails, that's human era, that's that's 291 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:14,559 not going to be very good. So I don't try to scare anybody. 292 00:18:14,559 --> 00:18:17,640 I just think you should have a plan. B Well, I think that 293 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,319 the pensions they really have a big issue there anyway. Yeah, I mean 294 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,400 I think they're unsustainable as to what they are. I mean, when some 295 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:30,920 guy works somewhere and then he gets the last paycheck for the rest of his 296 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,000 life and he's going to live another thirty years. I mean, you know, 297 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,799 because let's see, even like Social Security, I started getting so Security 298 00:18:37,839 --> 00:18:40,160 at sixty five, which is great. Well, I don't get it yet. 299 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,240 I'm waiting until seventy to get the most. But I couldn't get it, 300 00:18:44,039 --> 00:18:47,319 and it's kind of like going cushion. Oh, with the day's science 301 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,519 and the shape I'm in and how people are doing nowadays, I might live 302 00:18:51,519 --> 00:18:57,319 to one hundred, so how could they possibly afford to give me money for 303 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,519 thirty five years? Even I put it in, what I'm getting back is 304 00:19:00,519 --> 00:19:03,440 so much more. And then I'm getting Medicare, which is like, oh 305 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,759 my gosh, that's like the greatest thing ever invented. If you were like 306 00:19:07,839 --> 00:19:11,079 me and you were paying Yeah, I had eight thousand dollars deductible and I 307 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,359 was paying two thousand a month for insurance. That's a heck of a deal. 308 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,000 If you're in my situation and you're self employed and you were old, 309 00:19:18,599 --> 00:19:22,000 you know, so I just don't know, and that's just like a pension. 310 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:23,880 I don't know how they can possibly do that. And that's what I 311 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:29,160 think bitcoin is a safety valve for, because I think they're going to shut 312 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,359 those down. You know. I went to my bank. I think a 313 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,240 picture of it. I went to my bank like three weeks ago, and 314 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,880 it was shut down and there was just a sign on the door saying we're 315 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,400 closed, call us if you need to get into your safety deposit box. 316 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,079 That's all it said. I didn't say when it was opening, didn't say 317 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,279 jack, just a sign saying it was closed and give a call if you 318 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:51,400 need to get into your safety deposit box for an emergency. Yep. And 319 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,839 unfortunately I've said this for years. I was like, imagine waking up and 320 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,400 your bank is just closed. That happened, and it's Bank of America. 321 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,680 It wasn't like some little bank mine as well a spargo. It was shut 322 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,319 down except for appointments. And I was like, so, y'all, do 323 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,079 people really think that they can't just shut down and be like, well, 324 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,319 we'll see you when you see when we see they can do that tomorrow, 325 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,440 and what will you do? Because it happened in Greece, they shut down 326 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,519 banks for like a week and nobody could get money out of ATMs, and 327 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,720 the price of bitcoin went up I think twenty something percent in Greece because they 328 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,519 were like, well stuff to buy stuff? What options do I have? 329 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,119 So I think banks will eat themselves. I'd like to say that all the 330 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,720 time, is that their policies are built for crisis is not to happen, 331 00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:37,599 so when it does, they eat themselves. They print more money the fair 332 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,759 principal money banks have to shut down, their services are unavailable and they're still 333 00:20:41,839 --> 00:20:45,720 humans with that work there, so their money is affected. So how do 334 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:47,799 you think they're going to feel coming back to that? So, yeah, 335 00:20:47,799 --> 00:20:49,920 you're right two weeks ago when you went, We went like two weeks or 336 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,720 four to start pulling out money. And I taught my wife to go get 337 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,279 a certain amount of cash out of there. And she went out there and 338 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,440 said, now all you can have it's three thousand dollars and she said, 339 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,559 what do you mean? And they said that's all they can have, And 340 00:21:03,599 --> 00:21:06,359 as she goes, you know, we have more than that in there, 341 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:08,440 and I said, but that's all we can have. I don't understand what 342 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,720 you My wife just couldn't understand it because she has no concept to the banks 343 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,119 to close. That's not even that's not even her brain wave. When she 344 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,119 came home and told me, I was like, yeah, that figures, 345 00:21:18,319 --> 00:21:21,200 And my wife was just kind of like what do you mean? No matter 346 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,880 how many times they told her, she couldn't understand it. And they said, 347 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,119 you can come back tomorrow and try to get the same amount again, 348 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,880 and she goes, well, I'd have to come back for a few days 349 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,359 to get what we were playing on taking well and said, so you guarantee 350 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,960 I can get that much smart you I can't guarantee you can get that much. 351 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,960 Smart could change, but now it's open. It was kind of a 352 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,359 weird deal, and so we've gotten out what we felt like we needed to 353 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,359 get out. That's kind of a weird deal, in't it. You go 354 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,599 to a bank and it's closed. Yeah, that was a test run. 355 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,240 I think. You go to a bank, it's closed, what do you 356 00:21:52,279 --> 00:21:56,319 do? And a lot of people might have panicked, But that's what plan 357 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,720 be. That's what bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies before, you got to have some 358 00:21:59,759 --> 00:22:03,720 sort of backup plan. If you need to buy stuff, There is nothing 359 00:22:03,759 --> 00:22:06,960 better, right, now can rely on banks. What do you think would 360 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,680 happen if all the banks closed instead of some of them from a week or 361 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:18,960 two, I think we would have finally have the mutiny that people should should 362 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,359 have shown before. It just would go towards the right direction. We should 363 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,680 be just going straight at banks and feder deserve anyway. But I think once 364 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:32,519 that happens, I think people will stop the thought process of everything the USA 365 00:22:32,599 --> 00:22:34,680 does is good, all of our systems work. I don't need to deal 366 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,680 with that. Because when you talk about bitcoin to people in countries where their 367 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,960 governments have filled them over and over, they get it instantly. As soon 368 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,960 as you say, they're like, oh yeah, I definitely need a plan 369 00:22:45,039 --> 00:22:48,599 be against this government in America will kind of spoiled. Everything's been working fine, 370 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,720 you can go make money, put it into a bank. As soon 371 00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:56,799 as it stops, that premise that the banks have and the fiduciary commitment that 372 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:00,200 they have is over. They don't really care about you. They never right, 373 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,000 they never did, and you'll just have evidence. So I think we'll 374 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,680 see a wave of people who panic, and when we see some people who 375 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,559 go into a bitcoin, some people will probably start pushing gold you know, 376 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,119 or trying to buy more gold. I think that time is coming sometimes soon, 377 00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:17,240 you know. I think what's happened in our country is, you know, 378 00:23:17,279 --> 00:23:21,079 the depression was so long ago, and the blank thank closings were so 379 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,680 long ago, and the government taking your gold was so long ago that most 380 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,640 people don't even hardly know what happened. And if they do know what happened, 381 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,359 they don't know how bad it was. And they definitely didn't know that 382 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,119 the government take came and took your gold that you couldn't known it anymore. 383 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,319 They don't know that at all. So I think that's a situation. Hey, 384 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,480 before we go any further, I do want to take a moment here 385 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:47,279 to tell everybody about bit block boom. If you're not familiar with bit block 386 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:49,359 boom, check out the conference I'm putting on. This the third year we've 387 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,519 put on bit block boom. It's a real bitcoin conference, and say real 388 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,160 because that's all we talk about is bitcoin. It's not a cryptocurrency conference or 389 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,400 an all coin conference or a blockchain conference. It's bitcoin conference and that's pretty 390 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,720 much all we talk about. So check it out at bitblock boom dot com. 391 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:10,119 It scheduled for August the end of August and Dallas, and it's gonna 392 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,799 be a pretty big conference this year, but it's not big. We limited 393 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,599 to three hundred people, so it's a limited size conference. But it's going 394 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,680 to be our best one year. So check that out a bit block boom 395 00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:23,079 dot com and see what our lineup books like. Like I said, I 396 00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:26,200 invite you before the show. If we can make it work, I'd like 397 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,720 to get you out there to speak at Absolutely. I thought that was funny 398 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,119 on a show I told you. I watched you on several other YouTube interviews. 399 00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:37,720 Yesterday I spent a little bit of time watching you, and you were 400 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:42,440 talking to someone about a conference in Washington, DC that was putting on a 401 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:48,480 bitcoin a black bitcoin conference. I guess we would say and then, and 402 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:51,160 the way you put it made me laugh. I mean, I hope, 403 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,640 maybe it's not funny and I shouldn't be saying that, but you were like, 404 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,079 I was the only black guy at the white conference, and I thought 405 00:24:56,079 --> 00:25:00,160 that was really funny, you know, and it's really hard. Maybe it's 406 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,400 not. Maybe I've just been looking at the wrong place, but you know, 407 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,200 out of all the people who've asked me to speak at bit block Boom, 408 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,440 which I've turned away a lot of people. This year, I didn't 409 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,920 have one black person asked me to speak. You know, so I take 410 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,359 it for granted that there's not as many black people into bigcoin as there are 411 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,160 white people. Do you think that's a true point or do you think I'm 412 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,720 just like color blind, I'm not seeing it. Oh yeah, Demographically, 413 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:27,440 there isn't that many black people who are in the bigcoin space. And just 414 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:33,400 crossing path is one of the things that has enabled me to become pretty successful 415 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,880 in this space. Is like I said, I used to go to conferences 416 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,839 all the time, you know, just solo show up and I would meet 417 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,920 people who, you know, maybe they had a conference or they had a 418 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,559 business. So bit block boom. Black people just didn't know about it. 419 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,200 So Saint Clair Skinner, who you know, he has a company called bit 420 00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:52,279 Murray. He started the Black Blockchain Summit in DC and it's you know, 421 00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:56,160 We've had hundreds of people for the last two years. And I was the 422 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,599 keynote speaker last year. And one of the things that I wanted to encourage 423 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,759 people to do was to not only come to a black blockchain conference, but 424 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:04,039 go to other conferences so that you can be out, people can see, 425 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,799 you can introduce network because, like you said, as far as the bigcoin 426 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:11,000 space, it's for everybody. So you don't necessarily go looking for a certain 427 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:15,519 demographic of people, whether it's Black, whether it's you know, Asian, 428 00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:18,759 you just don't go looking forward because that's how bigcoin worked. It was for 429 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:22,359 everybody. You find it, use it. So I went you there and 430 00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:26,440 going forward, I think you have much more interest from the black community with 431 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:29,240 the work that I'm doing, with the work that others are doing. So 432 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,359 yeah, we'll definitely get get that change. Last year we had two speakers 433 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,920 and one canceled at the last man just couldn't make it because of an issue. 434 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,400 The year before we had one, and then the last few years I 435 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,359 haven't had any women. I took a lot of grief about that, but 436 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,680 not one woman asked, you know, it is the same situation I just 437 00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:45,799 was looking at. Yeah, I'm pretty much just get an email and I 438 00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:48,079 go who is this and I look, Okay, you look like you'd be 439 00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:51,799 a great speaker. I'd like to hear you. And I lined them up 440 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,559 and then I got a bunch of bunch of last year and I never even 441 00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:57,240 noticed it about the women, and so this year I was telling us someone 442 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,680 about it and they said, well, I'd like to speak us. Well, 443 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,599 why haven't you asked? You can speak, I'd love to have you 444 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:07,359 speak. So so I'm trying to move on that, but that was kind 445 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,519 of funny. Hey, I got some questions here for you to get off 446 00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:12,440 a bit block boom because I don't want to, you know, I talk 447 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:17,279 about that way too much. It's kind of like becoming a bit block boom 448 00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:19,119 a conference show, and that's not my goal here. I'm going to ask 449 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,559 some of these questions here from people on Twitter. I don't think I have 450 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,960 anything that should be crazy here. Let's see what your quest answers are. 451 00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:33,559 First, one is mind from mind you one five four eight eight four nine. 452 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,480 I don't know what do you think that means? One? That's probably 453 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,200 a box, but it's all good. Oh you think it is? Is 454 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,440 it less than a hundred followers? I don't know. I just copied it 455 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,200 over. Oh is it? If it's a weird name like that, it's 456 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,240 usually a box, Sam oh boomer. I don't know a lot of this 457 00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:52,200 stuff. It usually box. Yeah, okay, well it asked asked a 458 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,799 pretty decent question. Why would a bot ask this question? Well, you 459 00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:02,000 can control your box these questions, but yeah, I got Okay, what 460 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,160 happens when the Federal Reserve bands fee out on on rams as far as like 461 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:11,680 coin base on ramps up? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. If government says, 462 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,079 hey, coin Base, we're shutting you down and we're taking all the 463 00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:18,200 bitcoinness on there too, probably what would happen. Yeah, Well, whenever 464 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,400 other people think that they can shut down these businesses, I tell them, 465 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,400 I promise you there will be other ones that pop up. And on top 466 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,559 of that, legally, there's something called a bit license Jim, and I 467 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,160 hasn't Coinbase hasn't, so legally they wouldn't get shut down, and they do 468 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:34,759 hand over the data to government officials. So I don't think any on ramps 469 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:38,400 will be shut down unless they didn't follow those rules. If the Fed wanted 470 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,440 to quote unquote shut it down, the only effective way would be to say 471 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:48,000 that they would had practices with terrorists were using their platform and we're moving you 472 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,440 know what I mean. It would be sort of that sort of problem. 473 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,119 But I think they would clear it up and they wouldn't get shut down. 474 00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:56,039 The only thing that can really shut them down is if people people don't want 475 00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:59,200 to use them, because as soon as one exchange shuts down, I promise 476 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,079 you that somebody would with an idea for another exchange. Because it is bitcoin 477 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,119 is legal, you can use it anywhere, So people will use VPNs, 478 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,640 maybe use international exchanges. People may start using decentralized exchanges to convert. You 479 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,480 know, there's no way to really stop it. Indoors box has been open. 480 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,000 Yeah, yeah, I agree completely. Our next question is some status 481 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:23,559 quant which specific community in the US today is best position to convert into a 482 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:29,480 full circular bitcoin economy. I don't even know what that question means. So 483 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,960 so as far as bitcoin being used in a circular economy, I believe black 484 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,119 people should have the best use case for it because when you talk about group 485 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,559 economics, every time we've tried group economics, it's been with bricking mortar stores 486 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:47,200 and in black Wall Street and Tulsa, in Rosewood and Florida, in women 487 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,960 to North Carolina, there have been black owned Wall Street or businesses that are 488 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,920 in the community and they all got burned to the brown and the reason being, 489 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:59,480 of course, we have racist who are who didn't like them but bitcoin 490 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,200 is best black people who as a circular economy because we can have a digital 491 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,119 economy and you can't burn that down, and you can build and have group 492 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,319 economics and support each other's businesses so that the entire community is leveled up. 493 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,519 Much like here in La you have Koreatown, you have Little Ethiopia. You 494 00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:22,880 have a lot of different communities that support each other as a close knit group. 495 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,839 And I think that would be great as a circular economy for black people. 496 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:27,200 I think we have the best shot at it. That's the use case. 497 00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,119 I think it's for us. We should be at the forefront pushing it. 498 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,160 I mean, just along with everybody else. So that makes sense. 499 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,279 And like you said, you have in La little Korea, I mean you 500 00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:41,559 have trying to town in places you have a lot of a lot of cities 501 00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,720 that go to there'll be ethnic communities that all seem to support each other with 502 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:51,160 their shops and everything. But I don't see that as much in the black 503 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,039 community. Am I wrong? Or if I've just been hanging out it's a 504 00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:56,200 wrong place, I mean, which could be You're right, it's but that 505 00:30:56,279 --> 00:31:00,279 was a concerted effort. One thing I want to remind people is is that 506 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,319 black business owners in the forties, when they tried to build businesses and certain 507 00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:08,240 especially in the South, they were denied loans and then those loans were instead 508 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,359 given to immigrants. That's why you have a lot of Korean stores in the 509 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,240 middle of the hood in La Or you have a lot of That's why you 510 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,759 have a lot of Indian shop owners in the neighborhoods in Charlotte where I grew 511 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,799 up, because those loans were given to immigrants over black people, simply because 512 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:25,880 there was a law, can't remember the name of it, but a banking 513 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:30,279 law against discrimination against immigrants. It wasn't applied to black people for some reason 514 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,440 because the power that we supposedly can wield, I guess scared banks off. 515 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:37,039 But yes, that's why you don't see it. And then when black people 516 00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:41,079 do open these businesses, a lot of times you have provoking tours, you 517 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,480 have police that can shut it down, you have outside forces that will work 518 00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,920 to actively get rid of black communities who or black owned businesses in these communities. 519 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,279 So it's been a struggle, has been a fight. But there are 520 00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:56,279 a lot of online businesses starting now, a lot of black owned businesses that 521 00:31:56,359 --> 00:32:00,799 don't have to have brick and mortar, so we're we're still moving along just 522 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,799 farm. But you're right, you go to black babloos, you don't really 523 00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:07,599 see a lot of black own businesses, And unfortunately the media has picked that 524 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,039 up as oh, y'all must not want businesses. It's like, no, 525 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,319 no, no. This has been a concerted effort to keep black people away 526 00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:16,160 from building another Black Wall Street or something as big. In my opinion, 527 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,960 yeah, I think that would be a stupid reasoning to meeting would come up 528 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,119 with. I don't think there's a human being who isn't excited about being in 529 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,480 charge of their own destiny if they could possibly do it, and that's what 530 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:32,160 being an entrepreneur allows you to do to at least ways partially be in control 531 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,119 your own destiny. So that doesn't make any sense at all. So that's 532 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,960 another case also for bitcoin, then, is what we're getting at here basically 533 00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:44,279 is that bitcoin don't care. Bitcoin don't care if you're black, white, 534 00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:46,359 Asian, gay, It just don't care. It's just going to keep doing 535 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,079 the same thing, and you can get on the bandwagon and take advantage of 536 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,279 it or not. That's your progative. But if you want to jump in 537 00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:55,799 and get on the bandwagon. It just don't care exactly. And that's a 538 00:32:55,839 --> 00:33:01,480 solution we need. We need an unbiased solution that involves money, and Bigcoin 539 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:04,759 seems to be the best, best one right now. Yeah, you don't 540 00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:07,839 need to worry about going to a bank and getting a bank account. Yeah, 541 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,880 you know, turned down into the bank account. You have to worry 542 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,559 about them telling you can only take out three thousand dollars either. Yeah. 543 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,839 Yeah, we're going up and it's closed, Yeah, exactly closes. Yeah. 544 00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:21,039 Both of those were weird to me, I mean, and maybe more 545 00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:22,839 weird because I've been around a long time, but I kind of expected it. 546 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:29,799 Let's see the same. Another question, other than financial prosperity, what 547 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,359 do you want to accomplish in life? I want freedom, and by that 548 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,640 I mean real freedom, the ability to do what I want when I wake 549 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,960 up every morning. So it's not only financial prosperity, learning how to grow 550 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,319 my own food, learning how to farm, learning how to build my own 551 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,279 or construct my own houses, you know, just complete and total freedom. 552 00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:57,000 And I would really like to be on an island somewhere far away within the 553 00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:00,079 next five years. So that is really my goal. You know, everybody 554 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,640 should want to attain some level of freedom, and that's that's all I've been 555 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,960 working for. Money is just a tool to get that freedom. So you 556 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,480 have an aisle in an area world in mine, I got a couple, 557 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,840 still trying to figure out which one, but yeah, I've got a couple 558 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,679 of places I would really love to stay for a while. Where do you 559 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:23,840 see America in ten years either completely changed or we will not remember America as 560 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,679 it was, simply because if the financial system, that could be Even if 561 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,719 it's completely changed, that could be true. Yeah, And what I mean 562 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,880 by changed is the people that are in control. It kind of flips to 563 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,199 more you know, diverse, younger crowd, and America kind of switches its 564 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:44,519 tune or will be like the Romans, will you know, mess ourselves up 565 00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:47,880 from the inside out, and America won't be as viable as people think and 566 00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:52,400 not as great a place unfortunately. But I think in ten years we'll solve 567 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,039 those problems. And I think not just big coin, but just the mindset 568 00:34:57,039 --> 00:35:00,320 of people is changing now. If you've noticed a lot of people tune, 569 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,639 that has changed, a lot of corporations have changed their way of thinking. 570 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,559 I think of ten years, we'll clear that up. I am kind of 571 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,599 cautious to say that, only because there have been people who were part of 572 00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:10,840 the fight in the sixties and seventies, like, yeah, this is definitely 573 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,960 gonna be fine in the next ten fifteen, and then we're in twenty twenties 574 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,400 still having the same fight. So I just want to be cautious there. 575 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,199 But I think financially things have changed, so we'll see real change in ten 576 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,880 years. So you know, this is a question I'm asking getting into today's 577 00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:28,679 world. What's going on in the United States? Everything? What do you 578 00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:31,519 think of a community is like chop going on. I mean, I kind 579 00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:36,199 of am concerned on that because like yesterday I saw some guy was killed then 580 00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:37,360 they couldn't even get in there to try to figure it out, and that 581 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,559 didn't seem like good news to me. I mean, people walking around with 582 00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:44,039 guns is not a big deal because I see that. I see why people 583 00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:45,719 white people walking around with guns, you know, and I don't go, 584 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,840 oh my god, there's a white guy with a gun. So I don't 585 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,440 know why I should feel any differently if on TV I see a black guy 586 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,119 walking with a gun, and I mean, you know, if it's legal 587 00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:55,440 to have a gun. Who cares. But that kind of got me yesterday 588 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,559 when the police couldn't come in there to try to work the crime scene. 589 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,719 I guess yeah, and I think chop. I mean, if you think 590 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,639 about it, it's kind of like the beginning of a bigcoin is random. 591 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,559 It's all over the place. There's no real leader. They're starting from scratch, 592 00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:12,719 and to build a community from scratch. We'll see how it works. 593 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,119 But some of the essential services they need they don't have them yet. And 594 00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:17,760 like I said, if you compare it to the start of bigcoin, you 595 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,559 could it was almost no way for you to get it on an exchange. 596 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:22,679 There were no exchanges. Really, yeah, you had to send money in 597 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,519 an envelope. There's some guy and hope they showed out or meet him at 598 00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:28,559 a cofee house like I did for the first two years, you know what 599 00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:30,480 I mean. So I think anything you start from scratch is going to have 600 00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:36,119 his bumps and things going through. I do want to say in the community 601 00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:39,000 that they're building, they have made a consertive effort to make sure that if 602 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,480 people want to live at separate parts, they do. They separated people based 603 00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:45,639 on that and then everybody comes back together, you know, whenever they want 604 00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:50,199 to. So Chop is an experiment. I have to see more about it. 605 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,119 But this reminds me of bigcoin building from scratch. It's like when you're 606 00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:57,039 building from scratch, you have to go through these trials and errors. And 607 00:36:57,119 --> 00:37:00,880 I don't really believe much from the media as far as how bad things are, 608 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,960 and I don't ever really think things are as good as they say. 609 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,840 So I think it's somewhere a happy medium, and I think they'll they'll figure 610 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,800 it out to an extent. We'll see how far the city of Seattle goes. 611 00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:12,519 Yeah, yeah, but that's true, I mean, or how far 612 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,519 I guess even the president lets him go. I mean that he could always 613 00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:17,760 send troops in there not, so it's not just up to the city of 614 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,639 Seattle. When may nothing's up to anyone anymore. I mean, you know, 615 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,519 the bankers, I guess we're pretty much going to decide what happens in 616 00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:28,880 there. Yeah, when you really get down to it, that's really bad 617 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,239 it except I have one last question. Do you listen to any podcasts? 618 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:37,000 What podcasts do you listen to? Well, I really only listen to maybe 619 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:43,159 two podcasts. I listen to pomp Anthony Pompiliano's podcast podcasts, and as far 620 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:50,159 as regular information, I would listen to Joe Budden his podcast It's podcasts and 621 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,239 just catching up because I'm getting older now, I can't keep up with music, 622 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,559 so I kind of listen to him to see what's what's going on. 623 00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:58,440 But yeah, those are pretty much only two. I do a lot of 624 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,159 podcasting and videos, but I don't listen to him a lot, so it's 625 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,719 kind of weird. I really don't really don't have as much times. But 626 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,320 yeah, yeah, those are two I try and catch. That's weird that 627 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,239 you said you're getting older now and you don't listen to music much. And 628 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,760 you know, I don't listen to music at all anymore, and I used 629 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,440 to all the time. But but you know, I set up a turntable 630 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,119 here in my office and I've started bringing I have like three or four hundred 631 00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:20,440 albums, you know, from the seventies, so I bring up two or 632 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,920 three every day now. Nice, Well, yeah, I need to bring 633 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,039 some of my vinyl there. We can jam out every I collect seventies Final 634 00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,880 two. Yeah, every morning I put on I had Tower Power this morning, 635 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,800 and then went to rolling Stone, so so yeah, it's kind of 636 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,880 funny listening in that old vinyl and some of them I don't know how I 637 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,639 screwed them up so bad, you know, because where can they buy the 638 00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:43,519 book at? First of all, let's get there. Where can they buy 639 00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:46,159 the book at? You can head to Amazon and just typing bigcoin in Black 640 00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:50,039 America. I was an Amazon bestseller on there. I do want to shout 641 00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:52,480 out to them. You can go to Bigcoin in Black America dot com if 642 00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:55,800 you want an autograph copy um, and you can find me on Twitter at 643 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,760 bigcoin is a Z A Y. And before we go, I always ask 644 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,800 this, is there anything maybe I didn't cover that you want to make sure 645 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,039 and tell everybody I want to. I don't want to miss something, melt. 646 00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,079 Since you took the time to come on the show with me, if 647 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,320 there was something you wanted to tell people, or announcement or something and particularly 648 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,960 wanted to share that I didn't think of to ask, well that was all 649 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,719 for me. I mean you asked perfect questions and the questions from Twitter were 650 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,840 great as well. Yeah, I got everything out. I just want people 651 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,840 to read the book and yeah, keep buying a big one, Okay, 652 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:28,679 well, thanks for coming on the show. I do appreciate this. Let 653 00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:32,480 you know you were officially a cryptocusin now. Thank you for having on this 654 00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:37,039 show. I do appreciate that. Thank you, sir. I hope you've 655 00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:39,639 enjoyed today's show, and I want to give a big thank you to all 656 00:39:39,639 --> 00:39:44,599 my cousins out there for listening and subscribe. If you haven't subscribed yet, 657 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,159 just go to cryptocusins dot com and you'll see the links for all the places 658 00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:51,199 that you can subscribe. You want to take a second, leave a great 659 00:39:51,199 --> 00:39:53,239 review or a four star rating. Even while you're at it, I also 660 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:59,079 recommend you go to crypto podcast dot com and see all my other podcasts and 661 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:04,719 websites for a world of bitcoin. 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