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For every week you get an additional
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every weekday, every day, Monday
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story from history and not like you
know, like the may explode it and

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then like, well here's what hepp
I'm talking about, random fucking wild shit

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that every day nincompoops did didn't some
guy like there's a doctor at this dude's

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house fucking his daughter and then the
doctor beat him up after fucking his daughter.

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Yeah, and then he shot the
doctor like two days later. Yeah,

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he was waiting for the doctors.
The doctor was banging the married doctor

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was banging his daughter, and he, you know, took a ladder up

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to the window upstairs, banging his
twenty year old daughter, still living at

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home in eighteen ninety seven, get
a job, he was kind of.

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And this guy came upstairs with the
busher's knife, thinking there might be a

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burglar, sees the doctor with his
daughter naked, so he saw the doctor's

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boner, charge at the doctor with
the butcher knife, and the doctor,

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unarmed and naked, beats the shit
out of this dad. And by the

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way, I mentioned this in the
article, how else do you fight a

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naked man? What do you mean
like by losing, you're going to lose

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probably to a naked guy. Yeah, there's nothing, but with the real

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insulting guard, you're not going to
know what to do, and this guy

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didn't. But the real problem is
like the real salt in the wound,

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I guess you could say that notice
in the article is that this guy is

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this doctor's naked and you just start
beating the ship out of the dad who

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charged him. What that means is
it had to be an intimate fight,

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right, they were on top of
each other. Blah blah. So the

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doctor's penis, which was freshly out
of his daughter her juices were getting on

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the dad as the guy who fucked
the dad's daughter was then dicking the dad

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down. And they do have these
videos on porn up. Yeah, but

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ye daily poop read. It really
is. So when you're you're taking a

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number two on company time, it's
the best way to fill your twenty minutes.

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And I gotta say, there's a
lot of good ways to learn about

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history, and one of the best
if you really just want to learn again,

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get an idea about what people used
to be like. It's just like

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reading old newspaper articles because you'll be
struck by how different they were, but

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how how similar they were at the
same time. And it's just funny.

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My other favorite one that I did
was, and I won't get into to

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it, but the sixteen year old
to get his ass kicked by a rooster.

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That's awesome. Yeah, he's tried
to fuck with the rooster. If

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the rooster won handily, he found
out. Yeah. Yeah, man,

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So I guess like the whole family
Guy bit with Peter versus the rooster kind

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of makes a little bit more sense. Yeah, so it wasn't a person's

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sized rooster, right, there's like
a historical precedent. Yeah, this kid

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how Big was a kid though he's
a normal sixteen year old bear. Probably

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should have beaten the rooster. Yeah, yeah, I feel like anyone should

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beat And this is why I get
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a baboon or a land owl,
um a ground again, life or death,

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I'm I'm marking both. It is
life or death. Yeah, that

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situation is life or death. You
don't think the baboons adhereing to like MMA

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rules? Yeah, these guys a
little babiden No, uh niem all,

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I'm down. Yeah, you can't
throw a bow under your skull. Yeah,

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I think the baboon eats your testicles
and penis so quickly that you lose

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the will to live. I don't
think so, because I'm gonna adhere too

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the rules of organized fighting, and
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No, what are you, batman? I'm gonna keep following my rules even

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if Yeah doesn't really make sense.
Though, when he blows up Rachel,

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you would think he would go nuts
right on. The joker, Well he

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kind of know as before that the
interrogation scene, your trash who curls for

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money, don't talk like them,
You're not as much as you'd like to

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be, all free. Yeah,
Jimmy Stewart and the doctor or the Joker.

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Jimmy Stewart would have been a great
joker. Wow, Well, off

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to choose what is that one?
I don't know. Ha ha ha.

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That's actually ha ha ha. That's
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arrived, right, yeah, well
that's what he was doing when he was

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bombing children in World War two.
He laughing. That's actually a pretty good

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transition because we're not talking about World
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World War One, which is the
more interesting war. It's a way better

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war. Um um obviously fully committed
and entrenched in World War One stuff.

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Because I just watched All Along the
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Western Front. You're right? Sorry? Um, yeah, Dan loved

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that movie. You could tell he
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good as like so my two,
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two movies are saving or not World
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Private Ryan and black Hawk Down,
and then like if you want to get

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into like really just great other war
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right, ninety seventeen was fine.
I think I was not like blown away

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by it, but you liked this
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but I liked All Quiet the Most
Front better than nineteen seventeen. But I

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don't think anything. I still like
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and then Band of Brothers in the
Pacific and Generation Kill are are on another

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level from any other piece of war. But World War One is I think

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the best war warriors. It's the
best war to learn about if you really

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want to learn about, because it's
the most pointless violent thing. World War

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Two had a point, right,
That's why I like, That's why Americans

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like World War Two, because World
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for all intents and purpose, it
was one. There's not really a

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bad guy. There isn't There isn't
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bound to happen. And actually it
was brutal as hell like terrifyingly bad.

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Everyone was people fighting for like thirty
feet of land of nothing especially, but

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like gas was involved. They pretty
much had to set rules after this,

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right, that's what kind of this
is pre Geneva convention. Yeah, this

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I imagine led to that. Yeah
yeah, yeah, there was a gas

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was a thing. Of the funniest
stories is so like nobody really knew what

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a war crime was other than like
the really standard stuff like murdering prisoners of

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war and stuff like that. So
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joined the war in World War One, we were the first geniuses to come

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up with a combat shotgun, I
guess. And these things were called I

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think their nickname was like a trench
broom yep. And they were so effective

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at clearing trenches that and it made
the Germans so salty that they declared it

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was a or crime and they would
execute any Americans as they found with even

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a shotgun shell on them as like
war criminals and execute them immediately because they

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just would hop into a trans with
a shotgun and just and just it's done.

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Everyone's fuck, you're clear in the
trench. Yeah yeah, you just

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pop into a trench with a cannon
basically you're It's like I'm gonna hit it,

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but they were cool gas. Yeah, I don't know fucking happen and

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choose in here. Yeah, And
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one two is is that, like
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something similar would happen. I don't
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two. It certainly didn't happen during
Noam or anything like that. But during

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World War One the technology was is
just vastly superior than our in a way

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beyond even the guns being so good
and stuff like that, Like these technological

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horrors. He's almost like steampunk terrifying
things and planes that they that they couldn't

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fucking fathom basically flamethrow. They were
like what the fuck? Like that is

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something that I think would happen now, Like we would get into a war

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of like maybe China or something and
one day, I don't know, there

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would just be an invisible drone stabbing
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they're working with, yeah, yeah, or just they finally just break out

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the gun dams, the what the
gundams, the megas words. Basically it's

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pretty much yeah to what you're like, how does they suggest how like it's

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like a it's like a technological nightmare, right, someone finds the brown noise.

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Yeah, all of our troops shit
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a like technolot for those people,
especially at the end, a technological futuristic

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nightmare that they were stuck inside of. Everyone's so interesting. Everyone just kept

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making these machines for killing. Yeah, it's yeah, it's I don't know

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how you would survive any type of
battle on no man's land. You don't,

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really, It's just the casually rates
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the the only saving grace of World
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relatively competent, like injuries in that
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people died obviously a lot, but
compared to like the Civil War, like

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the US Civil War, which is
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large scale war before World War One. Uh, that wasn't like in China

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or something. Um, they're gonna
sell off your limb, but it's gonna

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you're just gonna survive, right,
But but most people of them died of

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like disease and shit like that.
It's it's this, there was just enough,

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just enough to stop it from being
so much fucking worse than it already

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was. In the Civil War,
it was the opposite. Yeah, it

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was so much worse than it should
have been had it happened. And fifty

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years later, right today, we're
gonna talk about four different crazy stories from

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World War One that don't involve that
bullshit soccer story. The Christmas Truth Christmas

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is the one that didn't happen.
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it did. I saw a movie
about it, with that chick from the

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National Treasures Boobs, National Treasure.
What was she in the movie Guys playing

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Soccer? Yeah, I don't know
why she was in it, but she

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was in it. Diane Krueger,
I think is her name. She was

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a chick dead gets strangled in um
Inglorious Bastards. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah down in the cellar. Yeah she gets strangled in the

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cellar, get strangled in the theater, right, but yeah, she was

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in that cellar. Historically accurate.
Look at me knowing boobs job. So

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first story, it's gonna involve a
man named Jimmy Hall. He's an American.

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Oh boy, cole facts, Iowa, I appreciate you ignoring the first

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like four and a half years of
the war. Yeah, just jumping straight

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to America. Well, so he
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Okay, Oh, he's one of
a lot of Americans did. Yeah.

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He was on vacation in the UK
in the summer of nineteen fourteen when World

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War One began. He posed as
a Canadian and enlisted in the British Army,

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serving in the Royal Fuselers. Fuseliers. You're gonna have to like pardon

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me with some of the pronunciations,
because it's as I read everything, I

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didn't listen to anything means you're smart. Yeah, yeah, that's what I've

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heard. So he was a machine
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Probably. Probably he was discharged after
his true nationality was discovered and returned to

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the United States. Why why wouldn't
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It's like he's the most willing one
here, right, Yeah, and

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a lot of people are dying.
By the way, machine gunners seems like

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a good gig. Of all the
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machine gun No, well, no, the best gig if you're not a

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like, well, it would be
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if you're gonna at least be killing
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bit of danger, but not really
gonna be working that artillery. Yeah,

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but if I guess you, if
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if you're in a trench, the
best gig she is machine gunner. What's

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the worst gig? Guy that has
to check the trench first, like trench

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clearer. No guy that has to
run through no man's land. Oh,

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just in between the trenches, any
of them? Just guy with rifle.

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so many guys with rifle. Guy
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It's the energy card of dudes in
the war now. Jimmy Hall was a

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writer, and he returned to Europe
in nineteen sixteen on assignment with Atlantic monthly

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magazine The Atlantic. He was to
have written a series of stories about the

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group of American volunteers serving in the
Lafayette It's good drill. Yeah, it's

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just a French. I don't know
if it's probably it's French. I don't

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I don't need to pronounce. It's
essentially they called himselves Lafayette because he was

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the Revolutionary War general blah blah blah
blah. Yeah. But after spending some

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time with the American flyers, Hall
himself became caught up in the adventure and

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enlisted in the French Air Service.
So he's done this twice now. Yeah.

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But the French were taking people left
and right. Yeah. Yeah,

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he didn't have to like pose it. Yeah, because a lot of the

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war was happening in France. None
of it happened in England, right,

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Yeah, there's a bunch of American
volunteers that would serve in the squadron.

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Yeah. During his time in French
aviation, Hall was awarded the croud Guers

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with five Palms and the quas de
guerre want to quaire gorilla and the media.

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I don't I took two years of
French in high school. I don't

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really know it. I cheated on
every test. Do they sell positief.

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I actually got caught cheating because I
would have I had my graphing calculator and

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I would just put all the answers
in it. Dude calculator on French.

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So I'm like calculator. It's like, what are you doing? It's like

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I'm playing block man? Do you
know how I cheated in French in high

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school? It was much better,
so, but it probably was something that

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you would look us doing at your
public school. Okay, so the private

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Catholic school college shirt every day,
we had to wear a college shirt too,

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even though it's a public school.
Oh well, then you could go

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to dress code because they didn't want
people to get shot or staf. Actually

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dress codes are smart and more.
They should just be uniforms of public schools.

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Yeah, it's one less thing to
think about, it is, and

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it actually helps out like poor kids
and shit, and I feel like fucking

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shit. Yeah. Um So anyway, what I would do was I had

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to wear a college shirt every day. It could be a polo shirt,

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could be a button up, right, right, So I wore a button

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up And what I did was I
taped a cheat sheet to this arm.

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Right. Oh, you have like
a QB sleeve and a cheat yeah,

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two QB sleeves and you know the
button ups that get the little opening here.

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Yeah whatever, So I just unbuttoned
those. I just sat there and

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was like you should reading off plays
boobie weep, yep, just writing fucking

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eight that shit. I was never
good at friend I well as everyone knows

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here, because I'm so good at
voices, great, great French accent,

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couldn't speak it a lick. I
had a better way to cheat in Spanish

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in college what data Spanish girl.
Maybe it was on my center for the

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tests and it was all online.
Oh yeah, you're good to go.

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It's fine. I will happily like
I would if I started abroad for like

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a semester and some fucking like Italian
chick was like, will you have me

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with me with my English class,
I'd be like, yeah, whatever,

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Brad, I'd probably still going to
be I would because grammar is not great.

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Uh. And then when she couldn't
help, I would get some of

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my fraternity brothers that were also Spanish
speak in origin, and uh, they

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were usually worse. Yeah, I
was suposed to say. Would they be

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like, that's not how you fucking
say that. It's like too proper.

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Yeah, the Spanish is like I'm
Spanish Spanish. There's a certain it's there's

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a certain type of immigrant in the
United States where like or like a generation

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of it where they were not good
about teaching their kids English or not noting,

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not good about cheating their kids Spanish
or whatever language they had specifically because

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they wanted their kids to only know
English. Like this fuck this Mexican girl

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idea in college. Her grandparents were
immigrants. They purposefully did not teach their

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kids Spanish. Wow, because they
wanted to be American. Interesting. Okay,

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So in nineteen seventeen, when the
US actually eventually enters the war,

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Hall was made captain in the or
the Army Air Service, serving the American

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ninety fourth Squadron. So this is
before the Air Force. The Air Force

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was not created till after World War
Two? Really okay? Yeah? So

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even in World War Two is the
Army Air Corps gotcha all right? And

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granted, just like now, there
was also naval aviators. I think the

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fun fact about the US military is
that the three most powerful air forces in

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the world are the US Air Force, the US Navy, and then the

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US Marine Corps. Yeah, it's
like huh and then it's like the uk

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or something. Yeah. Keep in
mind that during right now the Ukraine War

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Russia, people stopped talking about this
because it's just got boring. Still doesn't

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have air supremacy. That's insane.
How Russia doesn't have that over Ukraine.

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The US doesn't do anything without air
supremacy. Yeah, well why would you.

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It's like, hey, why don't
we just blank at this place?

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Yeah, yeah, it makes total
sense to now. Hall was interesting because

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of this story. On May seventh, nineteen eighteen, he was shot down

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by a dud anti aircraft shell that
lodged itself in the plane's motor. Oh

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so it didn't explode, but it
hit him, hit him in the motor

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and just kind of just like took
him out. So he was just kind

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of he was able, he was
able to glide the coast. Okay,

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Yeah, he survived his crash landing
while being chased down by a German pilot

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in enemy territory. He was how
did he not get murdered by the German

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pilot? Well, he was discovered
and taken care of by the German pilots

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that found him really like as some
kind of fraternity a pilot. Yeah,

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just like, yeah, forget these
mud people. Yeah, they you're a

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sky night. Yeah, yeah,
pretty much. Yes, it's kind of

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what happened. They bandaged him up, they gave him coffee and cigarettes.

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Fed him launch, even played the
piano for him. Do you like piano,

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sky man, Yeah, we us
sky nights. Love, they're sky

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nights. They're skynights. Mud people, yeah, they like finer things people.

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They have their poor nose in the
trench. We have piano up here

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in the sky. They would rather
hang out with a skydight from the opposite

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side, trying to kill them,
the mud people on their own side.

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If you're just so glad you're not
a rifle guy, you're not guy with

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rifles. So they do all this
for him. They go to his crash

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plane, collect all his stuff,
give it back to him, and attempt

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to drop a note to a squadron
at his request to let him know he's

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okay, which they eventually get word. Yeah, they just they hook me

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up. Yeah, you want a
real quick note. The most fucked up

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story I know about a guy with
rifle. Yeah, it's such a bummer.

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So this guy, I think he
was French, but I don't remember.

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It was definitely Allied, was about
to get executed for desertion. He

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was afraid, ran away and he
in some big friend general was walking by

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and he was like pleaded his case. He was super nervous and like fucking

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murdered. Yeah, like was terrified
and pleaded his case, and the general

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went and talked to him and was
like, you are here because you didn't

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do your duty in battle, and
we're killing you to make an example.

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So if you take this on bravely, you are essentially again doing your duty

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because other people will know that they
will have to do their duty. So

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you are dying for your country in
battle honorably by taking this execution. And

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the guy was like, okay,
cool, changed his mind, Yeah,

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change his fucking mind. The guy
proudly stepped to the post and they got

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executed. So if he got executed
and acted like a bitch, they wouldn't

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have executed him. No, they
still would have. It's just that he

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like convince him to not be a
bitch, don't make us work more.

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But this guy was afraid of dying, and look there's shot. He said,

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for deserting your brothers and arms,
you know what I mean, the

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other guys who are have to be
there too, that's shitty. But like

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you're deserting a war that has no
purpose. It's helping no one. It's

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meat chess. Like I like to
say, Yeah, that story always is.

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It's a very distiping story to me. Maybe he was trying to get

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a chicken from a farmer like cat
got. God. God, God,

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I haven't seen it's been a long
time since I ran All Quiet on the

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Western Front. I think it was. I read it my sophomore year of

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high school. It's very good.
It was never on my fucking high school

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reading list. It's one of the
better was. I just read that on

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my own. So, while Hall
was in the prison hospital, the German

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pilot who tried to take him down
in the anti aircraft gunner had a fight

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over who should get credit for shooting
Haul down while they were standing over Hall's

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hospital. But it's easily the gunner. Yeah, the anti air pilot just

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chased him around and never hit him
exactly. The anti aircraft gunner produced a

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picture of the shell in Hall's engine
and then asked Hall to settle the dispute

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of who shut him down. Hall
gave the credit to the gunner, the

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guy who did it. He betrayed
the sky Night oath m M, yeah,

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you can't do that. They played
piano for you manco against Southern sky

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Nights. Yeah. After the war, he was eventually released, and the

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Hall spent much of his life on
the island of Tahiti, writing a series

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of adventure books, including the Bounty
Trilogy with another former American pilot, Charles

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Nordoff. Sure everybody knows Charles Nordoff. Yeah, yeah, those books were

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great. The Bounty series. The
Bounty series. Way, is that like

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Mutiney on the Bounty? Um?
Is it about a ship? No?

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Did he write Mutiney on the Bounty? I don't think so. Bounty Trilogy,

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Jimmy Hall. Jimmy Hall, Oh
yeah, I what if it's just

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like dope, What if it's like
sick, like Mutiny on the Bounty Or

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is that we said Mutiny on the
Mountiny, Yeah, Mutiny on the Bunty,

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Yeah, nineteen thirty two, that's
the first book he wrote that,

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and then menting us to see and
then uh yeah, yeah, look at

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me knowing stuff. Wow, Rob
on the Bunty. Yeah. I no,

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No, I would say the Bounty
was a ship. Yeah, it's

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it was a famous movie too back
in the day. M So, I

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think this is kind of our own
version of the soccer story. You know,

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you get shot down, you get
taken care of by the enemy,

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if you'd you, they take care
of you, they play music for you.

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Oh man, you know, depressing
US. World War One photo I

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saw the other day it was German
soldiers celebrating Hanukkah in World War One full

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Oh things change quick, Thank you
for your service. Yeah, yeah,

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we'll step into this camp. Yeah. It's almost like what we made the

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Germans sign up for after the World
The war might have caused that. Oh,

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the Treaty of Versailles. What don't
you're gonna put the Holocaust on the

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Treaty of verse Yeah, that's a
pretty weak one. That's like a homeless

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guy walks into a school and stabs
eight kids, and they're like, well,

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why the reason Germany went back to
war? Sure is probably Treaty of

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Versailles. That's not the reason they
need to exterminate a bunch of people,

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right, No, I'm not saying
that. I'm saying that's how Hitler kind

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of came into power is because it
was like a hopeless country. Yeah yeah,

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we economically, we just we can. Every time they came up for

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ever, were like no dirt,
dirt right kind of thing. It's like

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if you create a vacuum, yeah, or you put you know, you

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just create uh nightmare situation of a
country like some all you're Afghanistan, right,

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Eventually the shittiest person is going to
rise to power. Yeah, that's

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why we keep doing it, so
we can keep going back forever. You

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want to hear a good conspiracy theory, I have sure because I think it's

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real ish and it's actually logical,
Okay, um, And I don't think

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we're the first ones to do it. I actually think it used to be

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something that would be more considered common, rational historical practice, but now would

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be a conspiracy theory because it would
be uncouth to do it now. Okay,

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what is it? Uh? We
start wars all the time to keep

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a officer corps that's been in combat. Yeah, you got a sharpen the

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blade, right, keep a blade
sharp? Well with that it makes sense

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actually, and one of China's biggest
like concerns about being able to take on

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the West the been they have been
in a war since nineteen seventy nine.

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They have no no one in their
army has combat experience. What where was

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it? Was it just Vietnam?
Yeah? They were they Well they invade

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of Vietnam after we did. Okay, you should just call someone out,

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what like China just getting a war
right now with like a rando. Well,

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so that's actually a concern is that
they would start a random war.

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So Russia invade Ukraine because they want
pieces of Ukraine. Actually they want all

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of Ukraine, but they would look
at all that that there was actual motive

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for that. The concern is that
China is going to start fighting little micro

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wars like Mongolia. They should take
over Mongolia, be like we're getting it

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back, Well, get them back, Yeah, we're gonna get them back

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Mongolia. Fuck China. So that's
a concern is that they're going to fight,

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you know, just to get combat
experience. And that is the theory.

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That's my theory with the United States
with Korea was not Korea got invaded,

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but Vietnam, and uh, the
Gulf War and then Iraq not Afghanistan.

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We had every that was but at
Iraq War. I believe it's called

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the military industrial complex. No,
no, no, no, no,

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this is not that that's part of
it. But no, the United States

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wants to keep wants to make sure
they have an officer corps who always knows

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what it's like to be in combat. So we should do little war zough

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like the Falkland Islands, Like we
should just fuck with Argentina. That's fine

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too, Like anything even little wars
like that, there's enough chaos and that

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that you learn things. Yeah,
don't fuck with England. That's my,

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that's my that's what conspiracy theory I
have. All right. Next up we

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have Alan Arnett McLoyd, Canadian trying
to probably a war criminal, trying to

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say face with our Canadian audience after
our Leo major episode. He murdered Dan.

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Story is gonna be brutal, Like
he skinned four Germans alive their skin.

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They were all asleep and by asleep
we mean they were in comas from

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being gassed by him. But it
was for Canada. He enrolled in the

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thirty fourth Fort Gary Horse in nineteen
thirteen at age fourteen. Sick. When

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the First World War broke out in
nineteen fourteen, James he was sent home

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because teen year olds were soldiers underage. So even like he was just fourteen

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turn fifteen and they're like, you
can't fight, bro right, there had

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to have been was there like a
widespread age limit for fighting, because that

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must have been weird when you were
like with Allied countries. It's like,

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dude that kids like young. Here's
the thing that I think it makes it

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tough is that there are a lot
of twin gass dudes back then, and

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you could pass for eighteen a lot
easier than you could now. Yeah.

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Maybe I don't know, but I
mean, for examples, say, and

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this is something that doesn't get credit
enough. Say you're forty eight years old,

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right, and you're in a recruiting
station and you're signing off all is

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eighteen year An eighteen year old to
me now looks like a fucking baby.

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Yeah, it's true. So if
a fucking fifteen year old rolls up and

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maybe he's just tall enough, you're
like, well, it looks like it's

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as much like a baby as the
rest of him. Need bodies too,

406
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,359
and you need bodies, do you
like? I mean, like, even

407
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:10,319
let me tell you about this job. It's called guy with rifle. So

408
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:12,519
no, he was not a guy
with rifle. He was also another sky

409
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,240
god. Oh, sky Night,
sky Night. Yeah, the fourteen year

410
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,720
old sky Night, the fifteen year
old sky Night. Look. Eventually,

411
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:23,480
America's air force, as it becomes
fully drone, is going to be nothing

412
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:26,160
but fifteen year old be kids on
the call of duty kids. Yeah,

413
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:32,720
yeah, yeah. So as he
turned eighteen, he went to Long Branch

414
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,359
near Toronto to train as a pilot, and after only three hours of flight

415
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:45,000
time with an instructor was then he
did solo hours for forty seven hours after

416
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:47,400
that. So we did three hours
first and then they were like all right,

417
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,279
kid, and they're like, you
got this. You get finished your

418
00:30:49,319 --> 00:30:53,519
fifty hours of experienced by yourself.
Fifty hours doesn't even seem like a lot,

419
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:57,599
but three hours with an instructor,
that's it. Yeah, that's a

420
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,119
day. You knocked that out afternoon. I hope you remember it. Like

421
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,880
I'll say this, planes then a
little simpler. It was up. They

422
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,880
weren't doing they weren't necessarily doing wild
shit that planes now can do, or

423
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,960
even planes in the in World War
Two. It's not a Harrier jet.

424
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:21,119
It's a fucking right, it's not
a Mustang, you know what I mean,

425
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,960
Like, it's a fucking biplane.
Yeah. So on August twentieth,

426
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:30,119
nineteen seventeen, he was shipped overseas
to France. By the way, flight

427
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,960
had been invented like eight years earlier. That's the funniest part about it all.

428
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,599
Really pilots in World War One were
gangsters. Though they were everyone was

429
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,599
like, oh my god, imagine
if there was a war to borrow and

430
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,240
all of a sudden people were dog
fighting in space shuttles. That was the

431
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,720
best. Part. Two is you
could like shoot somebody with a hand.

432
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:52,119
That's how it started. Can it
just reconnaissance? That's what That's why joke

433
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,880
about space force all the time when
they're like, oh, why Trump make

434
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,279
time a spray form does not even
mean And I'm like, Okay, eventually

435
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:08,039
we will need some sort of space
force. And while he might have done

436
00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:12,799
it before, we necessarily had things
to do it. In the same way,

437
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,119
It's kind of like if Abraham Lincoln
started the Air Force because we had

438
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:22,359
hot air balloons that they were using
for reconnaissance in the in the Civil War,

439
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,839
which they were yeah sure, and
like I don't know, Lincoln was

440
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,119
like, slap a cannon on one. They had hot air balloons and Civil

441
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,039
War they had had air balloons in
the Renaissance. Oh that's right, but

442
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,519
I'm thinking of Zeppelins. Zeppelins,
Yeah, I know, they just had

443
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:39,079
hot air balloons. They only use
them for reconnaissance. They would go up

444
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:43,960
and just be able to see ship
Gosha, they're over there. Yeah.

445
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:50,920
So mccloyd was an eighteen year old
second lieutenant in the second Squadron. On

446
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,559
March twenty seventh, nineteen eighteen,
over Albert, France, McLoyd and with

447
00:32:55,839 --> 00:33:02,519
his observer, Lieutenant Arthur Hammond,
in an Armstrong Whitworth FK eight, destroyed

448
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:08,559
an enemy triplane and were immediately attacked
by eight more, three of which they

449
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:15,640
brought down damn. During the fight, both McLoyd and Hammond were wounded by

450
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:21,839
machine gun bullets, the petrol tank
was punctured and the aircraft set on fire.

451
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:31,119
Well it was made of paper.
Mccloyd instantly pushed over into a steep

452
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,720
side slip and the flames were scorching
him as he was trying to maneuver the

453
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:40,599
plane back to safety or kind of
like crash l bit. So he's getting

454
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,799
burnt. Um, it'll happen.
He jumped out the cockpit onto the left

455
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,799
wing and crouched low with the joystick
pulled hard over in the right hand so

456
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,880
he's just kind of like piloting the
plane on from the side of the wing

457
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:58,319
on the wing. Yeah, Oh
my god, what a fucking animal.

458
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:06,359
Yeah, he smashed through the fabric
so that he could reach the wire with

459
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,880
his left hand. So he punched
through the fucking fabric or the plane so

460
00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:15,039
he could, like Jesus, so
he could guide her towards the ground and

461
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,320
used to be man, that's like
the hardest shit I've ever heard in my

462
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,760
life. Yeah, I was too
busy being on fire, so I got

463
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,960
out of the plane while still driving
the plane right, and then also punched

464
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,800
through the plane to better drive the
plane. The plane finally crashing no man's

465
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,719
land, and the pilot, not
mining his own injuries, dragged his comrade

466
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,599
from the burning wreckage under heavy fire
and carried him to safety. Holy shit,

467
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:45,199
before collapsing from exhaustion and loss of
blood because he again got clifted by

468
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:46,880
a machine gun. Yeah. Yeah, by the way, that's the worst

469
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,800
part in nineteen seventeen, Like a
plane just crashes, the guy pops out

470
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:58,880
and stabs him. Yeah, look
at that. That was a that was

471
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:04,880
a to suspend disbelief situation. I
kind of believe it though, you know,

472
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,840
sure, it is what it is. You know what, World War

473
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,440
One gave us trench coats, and
we should be thankful for that. Mccloyd

474
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:17,239
was wounded back your high schooling time, saying, shit, I just like

475
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,800
the look of the like the Burberry
trench coat. I think it's a good

476
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,280
looking coat. Mccloyd was wounded three
times in the side and Hammond was wounded

477
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,920
six times. Hammond lost his leg
but was awarded um the Military Cross or

478
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:37,079
a bar to his Military Cross.
Uh. Mccloyd was recommended for a Distinguished

479
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:42,960
Service Order and received the Victoria Cross. Return that's England's Medal of Honor.

480
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:49,280
Canada, right, what's Canada?
But it's it's the it's the Commonwealth Medal

481
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:55,159
of Honor. And uh. Our
hero returns to Canada to recuperate, but

482
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:01,559
dies from the Spanish influenza Spanish flu. He got the Spanish flu, died

483
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,639
war mouse. He was first.
Yeah, it is five months away from

484
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:10,440
celebrating his twentieth birthday. Oh so
he survives all this and then just dies

485
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,239
from from flu shitty nineteen eighteen.
It's like you gotta think, like,

486
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,119
oh man, nothing can kill me. I'm getting sick. I flew a

487
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:22,280
plane like one armed, took it
down. So drag my buddy, you

488
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,320
know. Guy kind of fucked up
by the way, nothing's ticking me out.

489
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:30,960
One of the things that made human
beings more susceptible to disease, I

490
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:34,480
forgot to mention this. In our
Patreon episode, which you should subscribe to

491
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:39,159
our Patreon um, we talked about
how there was a sort of fewer guys

492
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,719
got to fuck at some point.
One of the things that made him means

493
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:51,880
more suptible to disease was the less
variety of genetics. Yeah, genetic genetic

494
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,400
variation is actually really key in our
survival term, like the more diverse and

495
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,440
like the more gene pool sharing.
More. So, they think that once

496
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:07,480
certain people monopolized fucking yeah, that
it made humans potentially more susceptible to disease.

497
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:12,760
Now, we were already susceptible because
you know, we're living amongst animals

498
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,280
in mud and shit like that,
being sedentary farmers instead of whatever. But

499
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:22,280
another thing that did that was the
fact that things got less genetically variant.

500
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:29,719
That's why, well you'll hear what
happens those people in the patreon. Yeah.

501
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:35,639
Yeah, So our next story revolves
around a hero bird. A bird.

502
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,440
Now, did they make it they
made a movie about this with you

503
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:43,960
and McGregor? Did they They actually
did about share Me. Well, I

504
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,599
don't know if that's who it is, but I'm gonna look it up.

505
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:50,320
They made a movie about a hero
carrier pigeon a World War One, Like

506
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,320
it was like a Pixar movie,
but it wasn't pick It wasn't Pixar knock

507
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,239
off dream dream Works or something.
Yeah, it was like a dream work.

508
00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:59,800
Look it up real quick. So
here's the story of Sharemy. On

509
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:06,519
October third, nineteen eighteen, Major
Charles White, Whitelsey and more than five

510
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:09,320
hundred and fifty men were trapped in
a small depression on the side of the

511
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:15,800
hill behind enemy lines without food or
ammunition. They were also beginning to receive

512
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,239
friendly fire from Allied troops who did
not know their location. Jesus, so

513
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,400
just absolutely friendly fire had to be
fun. I mean it was fucking everywhere,

514
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,519
and there were you can't really tell
the difference. Everyone's covered in mud

515
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:30,960
like a guy with the rivals,
a guy with a rival. Yeah,

516
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,239
that's why you have so many surrounded
by the Germans. Many were killed and

517
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,239
wounded, and only one hundred and
ninety four men were still alive and not

518
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:45,000
captured by the end of the engagement. Because his runners were intercepted or killed

519
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:52,440
by the Germans. Whittlesey began dispatching
messages by pigeon. The pigeon carrying the

520
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:58,880
first message, many wounded, we
cannot evacuate was shot down. A second

521
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,719
bird was sent with the message men
are suffering. Can support be sent?

522
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,760
That pigeon was also shot down.
Man, the birds aren't even getting out.

523
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,360
So the movie with you McGregor was
in was called Valiant. It came

524
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,239
out in two thousand and five,
and it's a World War two movie,

525
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,159
so I apologize for that. This
is a World War One. It's the

526
00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:23,360
World War One pigeon. So the
artillery batteries supporting Wittlese's men attempted to provide

527
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:30,440
a barrage of protection for another pigeon
to go off. Heremy was dispatched with

528
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:37,880
a note written on onion paper that
said, what I imagine it's like paper

529
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,559
made from onions, or no,
it's gonna be the paper that's just putting

530
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:45,800
onion a little cheese cloth in a
canister on his right leg. It read,

531
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:51,320
we are along the road parallel to
twenty seven six point four. Our

532
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,880
own artillery is dropping a barrage directly
on us. For Heaven's sake, stop

533
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,519
it. That sounds like the best
note to have gotten out the other ones

534
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:01,639
like can you help? Yeah?
Information first, please please stop? Is

535
00:40:01,679 --> 00:40:04,760
what you want to hear? What
you want to set him? Yeah.

536
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,599
As Jeremy tried to fly back home, the Germans saw him rising out of

537
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:14,440
the brush and opened fire. After
several seconds, he was shot down,

538
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,119
but managed to take flight again.
So the bird took one and just kept

539
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:20,159
going. He ate it. And
by the way, a bullet is like

540
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,199
it'd be like a human being getting
hit by an artillery shell, right,

541
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,360
like not artillery flo next you,
like he rips through you, like you

542
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,480
get shot by a bazuka, Like
a buzuka goes through you, and you're

543
00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:35,880
like, I'm going, yeah,
still going. I don't need the stomach.

544
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:40,079
Yeah, this would I would think
a bullet would essentially treat this pigeon

545
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:46,199
like Randy Johnson. Yeah, yeah, it should. It should. So

546
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,880
he takes flight again, a rise
back at his loft at division headquarters,

547
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,800
twenty five miles to the rear in
just twenty five minutes, and he helped

548
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,760
save the lives of the one hundred
and ninety four survivors he'd been shot through

549
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:05,920
the breast, blinded in one eye
and had a leg hanging on by Attendant

550
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:14,199
Seremy became the hero of the seventy
seventh Infantry Division, Army medics work to

551
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,079
save his life. When he recovered
enough to travel, the now one legged

552
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:24,239
bird was put on a boat the
United States with General John Jay Persian sending

553
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,880
him off. He put the bird
on a boat. Huh yeah, well

554
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,079
fly, Yeah, the General Blackjack
Pershing was a badass. By the way,

555
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,639
did we talk about him yet?
What Blackjack? No? No,

556
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,119
I think someone's actually asked us to
do him. To do black Jack Personisod's

557
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,079
dope? Dude? Yeah we should. I think I'm gonna look him up

558
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:53,039
real quick. Uh, there's something
some detail on maybe mentioned, but go

559
00:41:53,199 --> 00:42:00,000
on. But Pershing's a fucking badass. So he died. Is in the

560
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:05,639
comfort of whatever home he's in in
New Jersey. Play the Bird the Bird?

561
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,119
Ye? Yeah, because uh he
died in a nest did June thirteenth,

562
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:14,920
nineteen nineteen. Uh, he dies
from the wounds he received in battles.

563
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,360
Later inducted into the Racing Pigeon Hall
of Fame in nineteen thirty one from

564
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,039
Missouri. That's why I knew that's
why he's badest. Yeah, of course,

565
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:25,840
Yeah, Persians one of Missouri's finest. That means, uh, I

566
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,000
just want you to know that Missouri
is responsible for winning both world wars.

567
00:42:30,559 --> 00:42:34,320
Cool man, I'm sure we can
do some type of six degrees of Kevin

568
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,599
Bacon on Missouri on everything. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't he from there

569
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:42,360
too? What isn't Kevin Bacon from
there? No? No rad pit,

570
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,760
that's right, rad Pit much sex
here, right, m h, No

571
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,119
big deal. That pigeon, that
poor sweet pigeon. By the way,

572
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,039
have you ever heard about Why you
ever see pigeons and missing toes and stuff

573
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:58,960
like that all the time, But
grackles and stuff like that. I've never

574
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,039
paid attention, But is that pretty
common? You don't look at feet a

575
00:43:01,159 --> 00:43:05,239
lot. It's I know that's a
youth. But yeah, bird feet,

576
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,119
even bird feet. Yeah, it's
even better than what's the sexiest bird foot?

577
00:43:08,639 --> 00:43:13,280
Uh? Well, grackle gets me
going lately because they're kind of naughty.

578
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,280
Uh, it's gonna be flamingo,
you know what I mean, got

579
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,800
sex Now, they're slots. They
put it up for anybody, you know

580
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,840
what I mean, they show it
for everybody. Yeah, gets durned that

581
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:30,400
foot. Um. But what is
hilarious thing about birds that live amongst humans?

582
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:37,440
So there are so so so many
birds now that miss are missing toes

583
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,000
and legs in the city, in
any city, and the reason for that

584
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:50,239
is because they're around people. And
the reason for why that's the thing,

585
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:53,559
why that's the thing, is because
they're you know, parking lot or whatever,

586
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:59,719
and they get human hair wrapped around
their toe or their leg and they

587
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,159
can't get it off, and it
just gets tighter and like get you know,

588
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,519
and it becomes a tourniquet and it
kills the appendage. That actually makes

589
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:15,440
sense because human hair tensil strength is
actually incredibly strong. Yeah yeah, and

590
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,840
for that little bird toe, that
makes sense. Yeah, And they don't

591
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,559
really know what's happening and they can't
really pull it off. So like,

592
00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:23,639
there are a lot a shit ton
you like, you notice this if you

593
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,960
look at them missing toes and shit
like that, missing legs, And it's

594
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,719
because probably they were in some parking
lot and some more likely than not,

595
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,559
woman's hair just because it's longer,
got stuck around their leg or toe and

596
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:44,960
kind of kept wrapping and eventually cut
off circulation and killed the appendage and it

597
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:50,280
fell off. So dumb, yes, crazy, real quick, before we

598
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,079
get back into how fun it was
to be in World War One, very

599
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:58,519
I assume, very yeah. I
mean it just sounds like that from what

600
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:05,480
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And finally, our last story revolves
around an Australian private by the name

649
00:48:10,559 --> 00:48:15,400
of Albert Hard Jocka. All right, now, was this at Glippoli or

650
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:22,480
Jacka? It is? Fuck?
Yeah, yeah, Glippoli is a wild

651
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:25,760
story in its own right and its
own right. Well he's got a few,

652
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,119
okay, because he's kind of like
a berserker. By the was another

653
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:37,760
another example of an Anglo fighting the
Turks on our podcast. So Jacka's heroic

654
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:43,760
moment and Gallipoli came in the wee
hours of May nineteenth, nineteen fifteen,

655
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:50,119
okay, when the Turks launched a
massive attack on the Anzac trench line at

656
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:53,599
roughly two am. The trench in
front of Jocko was overrun by Turkish troops,

657
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,360
who either killed or drove all of
the Australian troops stationed there. Jocka's

658
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,920
lieutenant was killed in an attempt to
retake the line, shot in the head

659
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,199
the second he stepped out of his
own trench. Of course that's how it

660
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,440
goes. Yeah. Yeah. The
one thing that's wild World World War One

661
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,079
to me is it's like, oh, you put your head up. Don't

662
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:15,440
put your head up. I'll get
shot immediately. It's like, who are

663
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:21,159
these shots? Where the shots come
from? They have to get out there

664
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,000
too? Are cracks snipers? Yeah, it at every inch of the trench.

665
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,880
Crack snipers. Man, that was
almost crack. But like literally,

666
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,559
dude, like any any point in
the trench, any line in the trench,

667
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:38,400
anywhere in the world. You're just
like we just pick peeking up and

668
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:44,320
some dude has used zero. It's
like you John, Now, to be

669
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,440
fair, this is not from across
no man's land. The enemy was so

670
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:52,400
close they could lamp a bunch of
hand grenades right at Joca's dugout. Uh.

671
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:57,719
The Australian private knew that he needed
to act fast or there would be

672
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,639
nothing left of his own troops but
dead Australian bodies. First, he attempted

673
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,559
a direct assault, but it didn't
work out. Well, Jacko never does

674
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,440
popped up. But when the two
men by the way, let me just

675
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:14,599
say this's real quick. You should
never be saying the words first, I

676
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,719
attempted to direct assault. That's like
your last chap, that's your last I

677
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,480
started with a band at charge.
Yeah, didn't go great. So he

678
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:27,960
popped up with two men who followed
suit. They were both hit by bullets.

679
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,880
Jacka grabbed both of them, dragged
them back to safety, and quickly

680
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:37,000
realized that he needed to devise another
plan. Yep, we're gonna have to

681
00:50:37,039 --> 00:50:40,760
get clever here. Charging them isn't
working. It's huh, that trench is

682
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,039
overrun by many men, Like when
the when the twentieth Maine charged down a

683
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:50,960
little roun top. They did that
at the end. Right, they were

684
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,039
out of AMMO. They didn't have
other options, right, the charge of

685
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:58,000
the light Brigade. On the other
hand, for in the Crimean War,

686
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,880
they maybe had other options. They
just kind of wanted to have flex.

687
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:05,880
Yeah, don't don't do a flex
charge. So Jacka had his team go

688
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,800
to one side of the trench and
instructed them to start hurling grenades and covering

689
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:15,599
fire while the Turks got busy with
this sudden onslaught of explosive fires. Jacka

690
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:21,480
himself sprinted across to open space of
no man's land and then made a flying

691
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:28,639
leap into the enemy's trench. So
his great tax sole was another one fucking

692
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:34,639
discovery was go solo. Well that
kind of that, but more so,

693
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:45,559
oh, if we charge, maybe
what I should do is have other soldiers

694
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:50,760
lay some sort of suppressive fire to
make it so the enemy can't shoot at

695
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,119
me. The lieutenant was dead,
so and he's a private, so yeah,

696
00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:00,280
right, and look this is why
and I hate to um, you

697
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:06,880
know, disparage um any of our
great NCOs or or or enlisted men,

698
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:09,920
but um, this is why the
rich governed you even in the military.

699
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:17,239
We'll hear it out. With only
a bolt action rifle and bayonets rifle,

700
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:23,480
guy Albert hard Jacka cleared out the
entire trench of defenders. He shot five

701
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:29,119
guys, bandetted two more, and
chased the rest off with the insanity of

702
00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:34,760
his attack. So he just was
like, you got like basically the star

703
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:42,000
and Mario, Yeah, he's like
baby ba ba ba ba ba, because

704
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:45,800
I do think that's essentially what berserking
is. Going berserk is like you essentially

705
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,920
just get such momentum, yeah,
and nothing can stop you. Nothing.

706
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:52,880
It's like even if you see like
in football, for example, in college

707
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,920
football, like if you like you
have like a receiver or probably more so

708
00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:01,400
a running back and he just breaks
one off and he's just rolling. Even

709
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,800
if like some safety or linebacker who
you know is a good tackler on the

710
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,639
other team, it's just like you're
not tackling him right now. He's not

711
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,039
happening. Like this guy's fucking rolling. Yeah, he's gonna murder you.

712
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:15,360
Yeah, and that's just what it
is. But it's real murder. Yeah.

713
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:20,440
They say war is a momentum.
Game is. For the next fifteen

714
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,719
minutes, the Turks returned with a
massive counter attack to retake the trench,

715
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:30,320
but Jaka fought like crazy and held
the trench by himself with what not just

716
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:31,800
the rifle? Would he turned a
machine gun around? No, his rifle,

717
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:39,159
you're not. It's a bolt action, Like maybe he found some stuff

718
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:43,000
in the trench that he had.
You have turned a machine gun around.

719
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:52,400
You're not going bo boot and fucking
killing or what even scaring off whole schof

720
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,039
I was with a hundred people and
they're like, hey, this guy with

721
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:58,159
a bolt action rifle is gonna shoot
at us. He's got eight shots,

722
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,679
and we can all get back,
get to where he is in twenty seconds,

723
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,800
maybe like forty seconds. I'll take
I'll take those hots. Yeah,

724
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,880
Like I wouldn't do it for free, but it would be like I'm already

725
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,320
in the army. It's like this
is like this is gonna be good for

726
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:21,960
us more than anything. Reinforcements for
Jacket didn't arrive until dawn. When his

727
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,559
commanding officer reached the trench. He
found Jacka sitting amid a pile of enemy

728
00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:30,440
corpses with a cigarette in his mouth. All he said was, well,

729
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:37,800
I got the beggars, sir,
got the what the beggars? That was

730
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,880
just what they called the Turks,
I guess I mean Turkey. The Ottomans

731
00:54:42,639 --> 00:54:46,039
correctly, more correctly, more aptly, we're called the sick man of Europe.

732
00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:49,559
At the time, it was really
funny, like because the Ottoman Empire

733
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,480
was like this esteemed empire for a
long time, but once Europe started to

734
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:55,559
hold it started to like really get
into its groove. They're like, oh,

735
00:54:55,639 --> 00:54:59,440
these guys are bitches now. Yeah, the sick Man of Europe they're

736
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,159
fucking shit, they're on their way
out. Yeah, they're on They're clearly

737
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,519
on their way out. Yeah.
Great. Those things though great and World

738
00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:10,599
War One ended them, they're create. This is why I think the only

739
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:15,880
way China would ever fight a war
with America is if they started directly,

740
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:21,760
Like if if Russia attacked America tomorrow, China wouldn't enter. Why that China

741
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,719
is a sick man. But like
there was no reason for the Turks to

742
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,920
enter that war. They got essentially
like coaxed into that war, and it

743
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,159
ended what was left to their empire. Yeah, why would why would China

744
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,920
ever do that? It's like,
oh, to the other big superpowers are

745
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,760
gonna whittle themselves down right, we're
gonna chill. Yeah, you guys have

746
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,760
falling if we get time, I
mean, it wouldn't be much of a

747
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,559
war were assuming Russia didn't launch nukes, it would be I mean, they

748
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:50,800
can't even beat Ukraine. They're not
gonna be right. Yeah, those nukes

749
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,880
are a problem though they're the most
nukes. I wonder if they are.

750
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,719
And here's why I wonder that.
Here's the thing, Rob One new there's

751
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,400
too many, too many minutes.
It's too much of a problem. All

752
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,639
right, they're they're a problem.
They're just a big I don't like you

753
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,840
read about Eric. That's just kind
of preparing us for nuclear war. I

754
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:16,559
don't want that. You read about
the US nuclear arsenal is like wildly outdated,

755
00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:20,880
you know what I mean. We
still use floppy disks from the eighties

756
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,119
it is, which is in some
ways fine because it's very unhackable. Sure,

757
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:27,800
and then you can't hack. So
the one you can't hack, an

758
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,639
appicus the Russian lands in the US
is a dud. It just stays there.

759
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:35,800
We still go into a post apocalyptic
thing after we break in the World

760
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,159
War three, and uh then they
build an entire city around that nuke and

761
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:45,519
they have a cult. Like in
fall Out three, you want that?

762
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:49,360
I don't want that. Apparently you
were talking to her in the Patrin episode,

763
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,440
like you want that ship. I
never wanted you. Remember when Haircut

764
00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:54,199
says you want that shit? Remember
when COVID happened, you had an entire

765
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:58,199
plan of how you were going to
make lifetime fitness your castle. Yeah,

766
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,679
yeah, because I wanted to continue
to work out. But let me tell

767
00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:05,960
you something, if the apocalypse happens
every day, is a workout. You

768
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,920
don't need to have a gym.
Get that. I wanted to be kind

769
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:15,400
of like boarded up in the second
floor, that you could be murdered within

770
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:19,760
days. No, well you would
too, you were part of the plan.

771
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:24,119
I wouldn't go with you. Why
why would I to what you were

772
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:28,480
looking for? Shelter? Go to
the biggest building. First off, I

773
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:30,800
have it with my home get torn
down all of a sudden. Are you

774
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:35,239
just gonna not post up with your
friends? You could post up with me.

775
00:57:36,519 --> 00:57:43,000
He wanted an actual home. Yeah, isn't like Lifetime, Like it's

776
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,280
like all glass. I was about
to say, it's all glass, isn't

777
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,440
it? So it rains down on
the enemy you know? Oh yes,

778
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:52,840
yes, yes, suppressive glass.
I will say. The one advantage to

779
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:58,280
Lifetime is that they have to cross
a no man's land of parking lot.

780
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,599
That's true. That's a whole point
a lot of parking on the one end.

781
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,440
They can sneak up on the back
end, very from the woods because

782
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,000
it's all kind of gated off.
Oh a gate. Oh wow, that's

783
00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:13,599
that will stop him on the fence. That always stops, it always does.

784
00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:15,280
Why didn't they just build a fence
in between the trenches. Oh dude,

785
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,199
weird. They definitely build one hundreds
of those. Yeah. Now,

786
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,599
Private Albert Jaka became the first Australian
to ever receive the Victoria Cross, personally

787
00:58:24,719 --> 00:58:29,079
pinned on him by the King at
Windsor Castle. Whoa, but this is

788
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:35,039
not the end of his story.
In nineteen sixteen he was sent to some

789
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:39,719
the s the s to participate and
yet another this is maybe one of the

790
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:44,679
worst battles to be in human history. World War one, bloodiest campaign.

791
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,639
It's been fucking nightmare. The Australian
force would lose twenty three thousand men in

792
00:58:49,719 --> 00:58:53,639
a span of forty five days.
Holy shit. Causally rates and the crazy

793
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:59,960
at World one is like, obviously
it's still nineteen whatever, medicine sixteen seventy

794
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:07,480
fifteen, but they have gotten to
a point where it's modern enough, you

795
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:13,639
know what I mean, Like it's
not the Civil War whatever, but like,

796
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,480
and that's why the casual like the
casual rates for World War One are

797
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:22,159
so fucking bananas, because you can't
even like their disease is to blame for

798
00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:25,719
someone, for sure, because he's
always blamed for something. But like it

799
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,079
is a lot of it it's just
on the battlefield. Yeah, World War

800
00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:37,199
Woman's just the fucking meat. Yeah, like, yeah, it's meat render.

801
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:45,000
Yeah. Now, a morning in
mid July nineteen sixteen, Jacko woke

802
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:50,960
just in time to see another German
stormtrooper rolling a live grenade down these steps

803
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,840
of his dugout. Jack quickly dropped
to the dirt covered his head, and

804
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:01,079
after his ringing ears recovered from the
blast, he pulled his revolver and went

805
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:06,719
out to see what was going on. What could it be? Saul didn't

806
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:13,519
thrill him, Oh, it's war
again. Well, actually, if if

807
01:00:13,559 --> 01:00:16,760
you read the Patreon blogs, and
you'll know that during that time period,

808
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:23,400
they'd like to use words like excitement
and thrilling more. Um, I don't

809
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:28,159
negatively objectively, Oh really you know
what I mean? Like, it wasn't

810
01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:30,880
like, oh it's thrilling, it's
good, Like it doesn't have a positive

811
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,800
content, but it was. It
was just like it gets your blood up,

812
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,400
yeah, good or bad. So
they would use things like check it

813
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,760
out he was siting morning. Yeah, and it's not a surprise party for

814
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,400
his birthday. It's a grenade got
dropped on his face. Yes, it's

815
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:52,599
not a good thrill. Yeah.
The Germans had overrun the Australian positions during

816
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:55,000
the night, and they were now
a good two hundred and fifty yards behind

817
01:00:55,199 --> 01:01:00,840
enemy lines. He saw a company
of sixty plus German soldiers leading forty two

818
01:01:01,039 --> 01:01:08,440
unarmed Australian infantrymen off as prisoners of
war. So all of his homies getting

819
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:16,119
kind of rounded up, rounded up, and not good chained up. He

820
01:01:16,239 --> 01:01:22,360
went down into his dugout, saw
his six battle weary comrades sitting there.

821
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:29,119
A rational man would have realized that
the only way out was to surrender.

822
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:36,360
Did jig is up? He did? He did not. Uh. Jacka,

823
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,039
two hundred fifty yards behind enemy lines, outnumbered and exhausted, led a

824
01:01:39,239 --> 01:01:45,320
seven man troop, screaming out of
his dugout, charged straight on the classic

825
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:52,639
what's everywhere? Yeah, the three
hundred and sixty degrees surrounded into the sixty

826
01:01:52,679 --> 01:01:58,079
one armed German soldiers. And actually
that makes sense at least because get those

827
01:01:58,199 --> 01:02:00,199
forty one US, you know what
I mean, It's like you had again.

828
01:02:00,239 --> 01:02:01,960
The numbers can get up there,
right, It's a play for numbers.

829
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:10,199
Yeah, yeah, Because the Prisoner
Awards witnessed the craziness of Jacka and

830
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:15,519
his men, and we're kind of
inspired and started fighting back. Okay,

831
01:02:15,519 --> 01:02:19,920
I started jumping there the people that
took that. But Jock himself was shot

832
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,480
seven times, including twice in the
head. Did he not die in the

833
01:02:23,519 --> 01:02:27,519
head or around the head? He
did not die. He didn't die in

834
01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:30,920
the head or around the head in
the head? Are talking about twice?

835
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:35,920
He's out of the cheek, because
in the head makes me think, yeah,

836
01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:42,440
you die from you get like this, No, like between nose to

837
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,119
right. I'm sure you got hit
in like the cheek or something, right

838
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:50,119
right right, that's if you get
shot through the jaw. Okay, you

839
01:02:50,159 --> 01:02:53,440
got shot in the head. Fine, sure, but like there's a difference.

840
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:59,519
I can't imagine like getting shot twice
in the head and continuing anything.

841
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:02,280
And he got shot five of their
times. Yeah, So he burned through

842
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:07,039
his revolve arounds, took up his
rifle and bayonetted and kept fighting. When

843
01:03:07,079 --> 01:03:10,000
the smoke finally cleared, the table
was turned. Twelve German soldiers were dead

844
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:15,000
and the rest had been taken prisoner. So he a little old switcherou hit

845
01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:19,159
him with the reverse car, but
didn't he say the lines had been overrun?

846
01:03:19,239 --> 01:03:21,760
How many more Germans were there?
Still? Around there were sixty,

847
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,480
but then they killed twelve and then
the rest got overpassed. The lines overrun.

848
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:28,199
It wasn't done by sixty men.
It was done by thousands of men,

849
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:35,519
sixty for their particular trench. Okay, all right. Rather than head

850
01:03:35,559 --> 01:03:38,800
back to safety, the Aussies kept
fighting and retook the line. Nice,

851
01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:47,559
real triumph. Jack have received the
Military Cross for his actions. He later

852
01:03:47,639 --> 01:03:52,519
received a second Military Cross for his
solo recommistion. Deep behind the enemy lines,

853
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:59,599
he captured two German officers who had
spotted him laying tape to guide the

854
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:04,119
Australian infantry for an attack across no
man's land. Yeah, he tried to

855
01:04:04,159 --> 01:04:09,000
shoot them with his revolver, but
the pistol misfired, so he just charged

856
01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:12,400
and took them down with his bare
hands. Good lord, this guy's you

857
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,079
know what, last chance or last
the shepherd is his first effort every time.

858
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:18,239
Yeah, it's worked out for himself. This is a deeply Australian story.

859
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,760
Yeah, you know what I mean. I mean, it's just to

860
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,360
live on that continent alone, you
have to be a fucking psychopath. I

861
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,159
mean, he's descended from prisoners.
And by the way, it's only World

862
01:04:28,159 --> 01:04:30,199
War one, so not that long
ago, descended by a prisoner like he's

863
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:36,760
like he probably so this is a
weird history fact about me. I am

864
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:42,519
one degree remove someone from someone who
fought in the Civil War. Sure,

865
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,760
right, Like my grandfather's grandfather served
in the Civil War. Right, I'm

866
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:54,360
sure most people did. London't did
yours? I'm sure I have a family

867
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,519
that was in the Civil War.
But I'm What I'm saying is, do

868
01:04:56,599 --> 01:05:00,280
you know someone who knew someone who
fought in the Civil War? Sure you

869
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,079
don't. You don't. You never
know that. You don't know that.

870
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,360
I never asked my grandparents this hit. Certainly no one in your family.

871
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,800
No, they did. Did your
grandfather serve in World War two? Uh?

872
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:15,079
Korea? Yeah, then he didn't. That's too that's too late,

873
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,079
you're too young. I think my
one grandfather did. He was a deep

874
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:23,639
sea diver. Okay, then maybe
he did. Yeah. But whatever.

875
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:30,239
What I'm saying is is that this
Australian person, probably his grandfather's grandfather was

876
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:39,199
some weird a penal colonists. Penal
colonists, like fucking like horsefucker psychopath.

877
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,599
So he was not very far removed. It's crazy to think that like they

878
01:05:43,679 --> 01:05:46,960
sent so many people there. They're
like, well, I guess here now

879
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:53,119
we live here thing now? Yeah, no, it's sound things John spots

880
01:05:53,159 --> 01:05:56,960
and and then we eas dode if
we want Annie. Yeah, Jack,

881
01:05:57,239 --> 01:06:00,880
I was honestly probably paradise for him
compared to where he was from. Yeah.

882
01:06:01,159 --> 01:06:05,480
He was promoted from private to captain
in his eighteen months of constant combat.

883
01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:13,679
That is quite the promotion streak.
He was always insubordinate to his officers,

884
01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:18,719
sure, yeah, and when his
own subordinates were disrespectful to him,

885
01:06:19,519 --> 01:06:23,320
he got them in line by cracking
them on the jaw with a right hook.

886
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,960
Okay, so he was an asshole. Yeah, he's just a dick.

887
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,559
And he didn't listen because no one
was punching him in the face,

888
01:06:29,719 --> 01:06:31,440
right, he thought that's what he
meant business. You know, like if

889
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,440
he really wanted me to do that, he'd punch me. Well, his

890
01:06:33,559 --> 01:06:36,599
men being insanely Australian, of course, I loved the shit out of him.

891
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,679
Sure, why so it's not an
asshole, he's just Australian. He's

892
01:06:40,679 --> 01:06:43,159
just Australian. And you know what, I'm not going to judge their culture.

893
01:06:43,639 --> 01:06:48,000
They're all prisoners. It's fine.
The men of the fourteenth Battalion even

894
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:55,400
referred to themselves as Jacka's mob.
Okay, Yeah. Jacka would later receive

895
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:59,760
glory again, this time for taking
half a mile of land and capture a

896
01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:05,719
German field gun in the process.
Four context, gaining half a mile of

897
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:11,920
land in World War One is the
equivalent to a running back gaining seven hundred

898
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,800
yards in a game. I was
gonna stay breaking like two thousand yards in

899
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,880
a season, but I think you're
more You're kind of it's video game stats.

900
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:25,400
Yeah, your number is more apt. This guy just ran seven hundred

901
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:30,960
yards. It won game. Yeah. In nineteen eighteen, he was finally

902
01:07:31,079 --> 01:07:35,599
knocked out of action for good when
a sniper shot him through the throat.

903
01:07:36,639 --> 01:07:41,440
Didn't kill him though, Oh of
course it did not. Oh need a

904
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:45,280
throat, I's if a breath is. But by the time he got out

905
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:50,199
of the hospital in nineteen nineteen,
the war was over. Yeah. Jacka

906
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:55,320
got married, became the mayor of
his town, Saint Kilda, and died

907
01:07:55,360 --> 01:08:01,119
in nineteen thirty two. He was
buried with ole military honors, and all

908
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:08,239
eight of his pall bears were Victoria
Cross recipients. Wow, but Homie had

909
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:14,719
four giant moments of glory, got
shot a lot, a lot. It

910
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,840
comes with the glory and uh,
by far my favorite story that I read

911
01:08:18,079 --> 01:08:23,119
about World War One so far,
do you think? And there's plenty out

912
01:08:23,119 --> 01:08:28,279
there. He also served in two
different theaters, and the Battle of the

913
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:32,520
Sum alone, like that that was
I want to I want to say,

914
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,479
that's the one where they're like,
that was the Stalin Grad of World War

915
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,640
One. What is it? Like, what's the context of that battle?

916
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,479
Like where is it? What's going
Is it in Turkey or like, no,

917
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,199
it's in France. So he was
in Um. He was fighting the

918
01:08:45,239 --> 01:08:49,920
Turk's first Glippoli was Glippoli was a
fucking disaster, So he was in both.

919
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,560
Yeah, the sum was less of
a disaster more than it was a

920
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:59,159
clusterfuck, but Gillipoli was like,
by the way planned I think by Winton

921
01:08:59,239 --> 01:09:04,920
Winston Churchill, Glippoli was a fucking
total disaster, complete failure by the Allied

922
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:11,279
forces. And then I mean like
needless slaughter, blah blah blah. And

923
01:09:11,399 --> 01:09:16,359
then I think the sum was more
of like a stalemate nightmare. Everyone everyone

924
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:25,199
dies, prototypical trench warfare. Yeah, situation al Who was your favorite story

925
01:09:25,239 --> 01:09:29,800
of the four pigeon. Yeah,
I don't know how I'm going to top

926
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,439
the pigeon here. Pigeon, got
it? You don't like berserkermub boy?

927
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:41,279
All right? One bullet for the
pigeon is like he got shot seven times,

928
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,520
eight times, but no at once, at once? How many times

929
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:51,920
he gets seven? Yeah? That
one bullet for the pigeon is like fucking

930
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,279
twenty bullets and then it flew twenty
five. Yeah, it's a pigeon.

931
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,399
I'm not saying the pigeon. I'm
not saying I value a pigeon life over

932
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,159
a human life, over an Australian
life. Well, that's a different story,

933
01:10:03,159 --> 01:10:06,560
I suppose, if you want to
get into the semantics of everything.

934
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:13,399
But uh, what I'm saying is
is that that pigeon did something more physically

935
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,119
impressive than I think anyone else did. What about homeboy who guided his plane

936
01:10:17,279 --> 01:10:20,960
as he was on the wing and
shot that's actually a pretty good crashing in

937
01:10:21,079 --> 01:10:25,359
no man's land? Check it out. What if you're the thing? What

938
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,640
if you are the plane? You
are? The plane is sentient? No?

939
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,159
No, yeah, because you're the
pit. Yeah, the pigeon is

940
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:32,960
the plane, right, he's the
plane in the pilot and he's ripped,

941
01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:36,199
ripped to pieces. Oh yeah,
the leg's falling off. Yeah, I

942
01:10:36,279 --> 01:10:40,680
think it's a pigeon. Yeah,
it's so good. I think I think

943
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:45,399
the pigeon wins this one. No
love for our fellow American. I'll tell

944
01:10:45,399 --> 01:10:49,720
you what, America, we're the
greatest cut here on earth. But we

945
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:54,800
steal a lot of valor off a
World War Well he was going in early

946
01:10:55,079 --> 01:11:00,840
trying and then but French, it's
it. We were more like we're back

947
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:05,039
to back World War champs in a
way that like a dude, we're closer.

948
01:11:06,039 --> 01:11:11,479
Yeah, but like we so like
we won World War two full season,

949
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,199
no question, more or less.
But World War One it's like we

950
01:11:15,279 --> 01:11:17,439
were on that team that won the
full season. We're back like we won

951
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,319
it back to back, but on
the first of the two back to back,

952
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:25,279
we got traded at the trade deadline
to that team or you were that

953
01:11:25,359 --> 01:11:27,680
piece that got it over. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like

954
01:11:28,399 --> 01:11:30,640
we didn't do a lot of the
work for that. Did you guys learn

955
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:35,159
anything today? Learned a lot about
it. I mean one, I guess

956
01:11:35,239 --> 01:11:43,159
the thing I didn't know was fuck, I actually lost my point. Well,

957
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:45,760
I'll tell you first, I think, I guess I learned pigeons and

958
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,640
a lot of redundant parts. Yeah, I only need one leg, Yeah,

959
01:11:50,119 --> 01:11:55,239
you know, not an efficient bird. Third pigeons, the charm,

960
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,640
third birds, yeah, third bird. I also learned that German soldiers are

961
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,319
in animal shots. Lord, getting
pigeons out of this guy. Like I

962
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,560
was just us, just an Australian
man running directly at you. Right,

963
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:11,680
Yeah, well those are turks,
but also Germans. Germans yet. Yeah,

964
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,399
that's actually even more that's actually way
more impressive than me. I was

965
01:12:14,399 --> 01:12:15,520
thinking about that when you were talking
about it. It's not like they had

966
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,359
like bird shot and they were just
like you know, spraying the area and

967
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:23,640
leading the bird. They had to
hit the bird directly with rifles. Yeah,

968
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,800
that's that's not really fucking hard.
That's a moving tart. That's a

969
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,600
bird. Like it's a guy with
artillery that that bird doesn't exist, It

970
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:35,359
doesn't. Randy Johnson makes it look
humane compared to whatever artilla would do.

971
01:12:35,399 --> 01:12:39,880
You know. Randy Johnson has a
clothing line where he's a photographer. Now

972
01:12:40,279 --> 01:12:45,239
he does like sporting events the NFL. Yeah. Uh. The logo for

973
01:12:45,319 --> 01:12:48,520
the clothing line is a bird exploding. No, that's perfect. Yeah,

974
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:53,800
yeah, I guess that's the thing
I learned. Really, I mean I

975
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,479
already knew this, but it's always
fun to read. You haven't be re

976
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:02,840
established or relearned or whatever. It's
just that such a useless war it was,

977
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:10,119
and it's like the epitome of everything. It all could have been prevented

978
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:14,840
with a better sandwich. You learned
that actually a couple of better driver.

979
01:13:15,319 --> 01:13:19,319
Ye, a better driver too.
How do you get lost on the one

980
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:24,079
road drive back? Yeah, it's
like you've already done this drive man,

981
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,720
it's the same thing the other way. Man. Any relevant security whatsoever?

982
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,039
Yeah, just like, hey,
we're not going out anymore. Yeah.

983
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:36,000
If someone tried to murder Joe Biden
tomorrow and then he was like, okay,

984
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,199
well that that ended, right.
We didn't catch him, but that

985
01:13:39,359 --> 01:13:42,840
ended all right, I'm gonna keep
walking around. Yeah. He gave a

986
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,359
speech and I was like, all
right, let's go back. Yeah.

987
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,520
But to be fair, I mean, if I'm Prince Ship, I would

988
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:53,880
probably give up too and get a
sandwich. But it was dropped in his

989
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:58,000
lap. Yeah, I guess he
died two years later, by the way,

990
01:13:58,079 --> 01:14:00,199
Like it didn't work out. Well
for him, he died before the

991
01:14:00,319 --> 01:14:04,760
end of World War One. He
gets caught immediately and he's died in prison

992
01:14:05,239 --> 01:14:11,279
like a dick for what For Serbia? Yeahs have always been a problem.

993
01:14:13,159 --> 01:14:15,359
I mean, if you're gonna die
for a country, at least let it

994
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:21,720
be like America or Rome or something
good lords like it. It calls a

995
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:27,439
lot of issues. Yeah, man, you're like for Serbia, like ruined

996
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,560
the world for a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't

997
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,640
understand if you're gonna die for a
country you're defending. That's one thing I

998
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,840
don't necessarily think he was defending it
like we're better, right, because obviously

999
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:41,159
Ukraines know, like amazing country,
but they deserve to defend every ounce of

1000
01:14:41,239 --> 01:14:45,720
their fucking land. But that's different. They were there in that company,

1001
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,239
went on the road. Yeah,
it's not act like your crate. It's

1002
01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:53,319
all happy Bill. It's nuts over
there too. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1003
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,319
a lot of problems, yeah,
oh yeah. That wasn't some perfect country

1004
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,520
that Yeah, but the Ukrainians weren't
going into Russia and an assassination and putin

1005
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,239
Yeah, right exactly, or I
guess not putin, but like a lower

1006
01:15:03,359 --> 01:15:11,960
level general. Medvedev yeah, yeah, uh, who's Hitler or today he's

1007
01:15:12,039 --> 01:15:15,640
probably something at art school or you
know Hitler is at art school. No,

1008
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,560
he's in the war. I mean
he fought in warld some bullshit.

1009
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,840
Yeah, but he was a runner, which means he was useless. Yeah,

1010
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,279
so he didn't really do much.
M So Hitler's Hitler in a way.

1011
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:32,640
Um, I would say the Hitler
of this episode is well, a

1012
01:15:33,039 --> 01:15:38,399
the people that were so good at
shooting a bird? What were you doing

1013
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:45,239
so mean? Um crack snipers though
yeah yeah, Also, gosh, I

1014
01:15:45,319 --> 01:15:49,760
mean it was really only a good
guys story. Yeah, like story story

1015
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:54,479
is just a good guy I'll say. Whoever, here's my Hitler. Remember,

1016
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:59,239
idiot decided they didn't need an extra
body for what's his name? The

1017
01:15:59,319 --> 01:16:04,399
pilot, which pilot, the fifteen
year o k guy, the Canadian,

1018
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,520
the fifteen year old kid, the
one that got kicked out. It was

1019
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:15,159
an American and got kicked out.
Yeah yeah, what you can't you don't

1020
01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:19,359
need somebody that's Hitler, Like no, no, we'll have one of our

1021
01:16:19,399 --> 01:16:23,920
own die in your place, thank
you. But the Canadian the Canadian did

1022
01:16:24,119 --> 01:16:27,399
Canadian went into service when he was
like fourteen. They're like you're too young.

1023
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:30,399
But then Hall also went and tried
to pose as like a Frenchman and

1024
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,079
a brit and they wouldn't let him
in. Yeah. So yeah, so

1025
01:16:34,279 --> 01:16:38,560
the recruiter or the guy who was
in charge of his like squadron, it's

1026
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:45,760
like no to American Yeah yeah,
I'm gonna go with anyone who didn't I

1027
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:49,159
as someone who wants to fight for
their side. Yeah, I mean there's

1028
01:16:49,159 --> 01:16:56,960
certain examples like, oh, you're
a convicted murderer and you escape from jail

1029
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,439
and you want to be in my
army. No, we're gonna pass us,

1030
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,640
just like someone who's like, I'm
here to fight for you, train

1031
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:09,199
me or whatever, and I'm gonna
fight on your side and you're like you're

1032
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:11,600
not from the right country. No, No, I'm fine with the murders

1033
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,960
being over at war. Well that's
what the Russians do now right. Yeah?

1034
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:21,520
What always some kind of sus squad
I've never seen that. Maybe you

1035
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:27,880
shouldn't. I ne's not good.
That's the first one too. That's not

1036
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:33,399
even the one. The James gunn
one m pass uh. But that is

1037
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:38,039
it for today's episode. Thank you
for tuning in. Make sure to leave

1038
01:17:38,079 --> 01:17:42,640
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1039
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,720
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1040
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:53,239
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1041
01:17:53,319 --> 01:17:57,920
what did we cover again? The
pitch of limbs, Pits of limbs.

1042
01:17:58,039 --> 01:18:02,439
So actually what we're really covered was
warfare in the Neolithic era, so

1043
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:11,359
warfare prior to writing, but post
you can't call it caveman warfare because this

1044
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,479
is kind of post caveman. But
it's essentially like you know, we talked

1045
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,399
about if you know the show at
all, Carrahn tape, Citia Dicks,

1046
01:18:18,079 --> 01:18:23,079
whatever, it's those people's type of
warfare and all the fucked up shit they

1047
01:18:23,079 --> 01:18:27,319
did to each other. So kind
of like prehistory warfare, but not like

1048
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,800
total cave man warfare. It's more
like warfare of early societies who hadn't invented

1049
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:36,319
writing, and boy did they do
fucked up ship to each other. And

1050
01:18:36,359 --> 01:18:40,520
it's like why they did it too, and why and we and we and

1051
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,640
I know why. We explain why
they did it as well, which historians

1052
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,720
and archaeologists have a pretty good idea
of. If you're in the mainstream archaeology,

1053
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,359
if you which you will understand that
reference if you listen to patient on

1054
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:58,840
fucking mainstream Big Archaeology doesn't want you
to know. Yeah, so thanks for

1055
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,560
tuning in. We love you guys. For Jay Goldman, Rob Fox,

1056
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,119
I'm Dan Rochester and he just got
self served