1 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:32,439 Tonight's guest is Eric Beard. Eric, Welcome to the show. Thank you, 2 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,959 Vick Well, thank you for coming on. We appreciate your time. 3 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,799 Eric. Please give us a brief bio on yourself. I'm a young man. 4 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,640 I'm twenty eight years old. I've worked in construction most of my life. 5 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,079 I grew up on a farm. I had a abusive stepfather, so 6 00:01:53,159 --> 00:01:57,799 I spent a lot of time in the woods. I lived in the woods 7 00:01:57,799 --> 00:02:01,560 out there in Waldo, Alabama. Most people can't find it on the map. 8 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:07,039 I think gets old joke, but I grew up out there. I 9 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:10,840 like animals. I've come up around animals. I got a good heart. 10 00:02:12,319 --> 00:02:15,120 I try to help people. But I've always been an athlete. I've always 11 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:23,719 been pretty brave about everything. Besides you being abused as a kid, it 12 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,680 sounds like he had a really good childhood, especially all the time in the 13 00:02:25,719 --> 00:02:30,280 woods. It was a great place to grow up. It really was. 14 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,840 You know, we worked really hard, but we were really blessed. We 15 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,639 had chickens and goats and stuff. We had actually fighting chickens and so, 16 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:44,120 you know, there's a lot of work involved in and things, and we 17 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:46,159 cleared off a lot of land. We lived in forty eight acres out there 18 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:53,000 and watered them. My grandfather, my stepfather's father, he actually sold over 19 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,599 half of it. He had a lot of property out there, were road 20 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,800 cut through there, and bought a bunch of his land too when he got 21 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,520 out of Vietnam Korean War and stuff. It's pretty nice place, man. 22 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,800 It's right there and water by the National Forest. You got creeks and stuff 23 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,280 that run through there. It's a nice place. It really is. Which 24 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:15,560 National forest is it? Tell it Digger National Forest, I believe. And 25 00:03:15,599 --> 00:03:22,879 then it runs on up around the mountain up seat Hall and Ashland and some 26 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:27,759 small towns nobody knows about on little country roads that go around it. Wolf 27 00:03:27,759 --> 00:03:30,879 Focus one of them. It's the road I lived on on a dead end. 28 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,879 You drive down the dirt road about a mill off the side of a 29 00:03:35,919 --> 00:03:39,919 county road, Wolf Road, and we used to have to walk it all 30 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:45,039 the way up a hill and we used to go up there to my papa's 31 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,319 house, and as we got there there was milk Joe's about eighty of them 32 00:03:49,319 --> 00:03:53,319 filled up. I can remember being five years old, Kinnygarten toting them bad 33 00:03:53,319 --> 00:03:55,840 boys a few miles to water all these chickens. We had a bunch of 34 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,840 them, thousands. It's a tough working always kept us busy. It was 35 00:04:01,879 --> 00:04:08,000 always cutting down woods and making fires and burning off land and cutting stuff down 36 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,000 with machetes and putting up fences, and we always out there working. It 37 00:04:13,159 --> 00:04:15,360 was I remember when I was really young, it wasn't nothing but a you 38 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,399 know, a yard around this thing in a bunch of woods. And then 39 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:24,560 there's more stuff got cleared off because I have people come out there log especially 40 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,959 when there was a bunch of land to begin with. You know, I 41 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,439 think it only pushed stuff back and they come back. I don't know. 42 00:04:32,319 --> 00:04:35,680 It's a nice place. There are a place I live out now, that's 43 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,399 screw the It sounds like a great place to grow up. I can only 44 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:43,560 imagine what it must have been like to be a kid like that then grew 45 00:04:43,639 --> 00:04:46,399 up right next to a national forest. What was the most frightening thing that 46 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,800 happened to you in that forest? The first thing that ever happened to me 47 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,839 in that forest is that's where I got to know God. Not coming up 48 00:04:54,879 --> 00:04:59,199 in any kind of religious family or anything. God came to me in the 49 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:03,480 woods. And that's scared me. It scared me and I experienced something, 50 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:11,519 you know. And but not long after that, I was I was young, 51 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,879 but I just I got got the feeling, like, you know, 52 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:17,600 I found dead animals and bones and stuff out there all the time. My 53 00:05:17,639 --> 00:05:23,000 brother even brought back a human skull, my older brother. We found bones 54 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,040 and stuff out there all the time. But as a kid, don't you 55 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,720 don't really think about it. You don't not really scared of stuff like that. 56 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,399 Now that I think about it, that there was some creepy woods, 57 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,000 you know. I actually found a graveyard out there, way back in there. 58 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,040 I don't even know if it was still on our property or not. 59 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:43,040 It's not like there's a a fence, you know what I mean. The 60 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,240 woods just keep going, you know. And uh yeah, I found a 61 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,800 graveyard. Some of the dates on it go back to the eighteens. And 62 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,720 it's just in the middle of the woods, like there's I can't think of 63 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:55,560 anybody that would know that it was there. It's not bro kept or nothing. 64 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,800 It's just nothing grows around it. It's weird. It was weird. 65 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:02,920 But the strangest thing in the woods was I just one day I just felt 66 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,800 scared. Never strange for me, and I just felt like I was being 67 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:12,000 watched. So I left, and as I was leaving, I just seemed 68 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,199 to get more anxious and more afraid, like something was even following me. 69 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,120 So I left the wood. That day, I actually played the video game 70 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,480 with my older brother. I didn't do that a lot. You know, 71 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,399 we got it pretty rough from our pappal too when we were down there at 72 00:06:27,439 --> 00:06:30,319 his house. Even if we were knowing, doing nothing but just playing the 73 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:36,000 game or something, that ain't no chilling. But the next day, the 74 00:06:36,079 --> 00:06:41,319 very next day, I got off the bus, we watered all the chickens 75 00:06:41,319 --> 00:06:45,120 and stuff. I got to walking down the side of the field and we 76 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,319 got a chicken field and then another fence on it, and then at the 77 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:51,319 bottom of it a big goat field. I don't know how many acres are 78 00:06:51,319 --> 00:06:57,519 in it. I'd say at least ten acres of field. So you walked 79 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,879 down at least ten acres down the fence line. It's got another gate down 80 00:07:01,959 --> 00:07:05,120 towards the bottom. There's a small wood line in between it and a big 81 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:10,160 pear tree. In the Middle East, you couldn't eat all the pears, 82 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:13,160 and the goats couldn't even eat all the pears on this tree with two pear 83 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,240 trees that grew together. I ain't never seen one, like a sense or 84 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:24,560 really, but I walked on down that fence line on the outskirts and hopped 85 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,800 off into the woods. This is a completely different direction then I went the 86 00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:33,160 last time, and I got lost in these woods before. There are some 87 00:07:33,279 --> 00:07:39,319 big woods, but I've never been really afraid out there. Well, the 88 00:07:39,439 --> 00:07:42,959 feeling started coming over me a little bit again. The further out I got. 89 00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:46,839 I'm already as far as football fails to go, I don't know, 90 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:50,680 at least ten away from the house, and I'm just now hitting the very 91 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:56,360 backwood line at the fence, and you know, the woods extend, but 92 00:07:56,639 --> 00:08:01,560 to the left they go that way and all the way and football fields back 93 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,040 up towards the house. Nothing but woods off to the left and now the 94 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:09,360 back and around the other side of the field. You got, you know, 95 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,120 further on back in the woods. That's where the river tracks cut through. 96 00:08:11,879 --> 00:08:16,480 And I'm walking out there, I start feeling that way again, like 97 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:24,000 yeah, something's watching me. So you know, I pick up a stick. 98 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:28,560 I just start smacking a tree. I smacked that tree hard a few 99 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,320 times with a stick until I broke it. It wasn't really like a very 100 00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:37,919 dead stick, but it you know, it broke, It wasn't really dead. 101 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,559 There's like a pond for stuff in there. The rest of it's not 102 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,279 like that. The rest of it's kind of like hilly and valet and some 103 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,679 of it's stick with dick its in it, you know, briers and bushes, 104 00:08:50,799 --> 00:08:52,360 but some, you know, other parts you can see out through. 105 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:56,919 They are good ways. And where I was it was kind of opened up, 106 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:01,919 and I was on top of a hill type on going down there, 107 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:07,799 you can see pretty good. But that's when I felt the worst. But 108 00:09:07,879 --> 00:09:11,240 I couldn't see anything at all, but I just knew something was looking at 109 00:09:11,279 --> 00:09:16,799 me, to the point where I started going back the way I came, 110 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,399 and then I felt like that was a bad idea, so I cut back 111 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:24,720 the way I was going actually towards the house through the woods, which now 112 00:09:24,279 --> 00:09:28,360 I'm actually went into the woods at the end of the fence line. I 113 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:33,039 went into the woods that way, a good little way. It's like at 114 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,559 least a quarter miles, if not a half mile, Like I was making 115 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,639 my way on down through there. You know, now I'm slapped dead in 116 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:45,559 the middle of the woods out there as far as I know, as far 117 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,320 as I've discovered and went around, and it's thick in between there, and 118 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:56,200 there's there's a heel and or shooting rangers right there in the direction I'm headed. 119 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,879 So I'm trying to get up out of there, and I'm heading this 120 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,440 direction, and I just start to feel so anxious that I start running, 121 00:10:05,759 --> 00:10:11,799 Dick. I started running, and I got about it that I didn't I 122 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,639 didn't want to look back type thing. But I never saw nothing, but 123 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,320 I was. I was truly scared, and that was ever strange for me. 124 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:22,600 Anybody would tell you that knows me. That's that's strange most people. 125 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:28,600 But that same night, my stepfather had got home, you know, and 126 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:33,720 he's the type of guy when he comes in, he's looking for something to 127 00:10:33,759 --> 00:10:37,440 be upset about. You know, you can move the remote and you don't 128 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,399 know if you're going to get slapped or cuts powder, you know, the 129 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,039 middle abuse sometimes worse than even getting you know, hit or anything. You 130 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:52,440 know it he comes in university. You know, I'm not even making eye 131 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,799 contact with him, but we're goin to eat or something or just finished eating. 132 00:10:54,960 --> 00:11:03,000 Maybe you know, my mom will work long hours and uh, he 133 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:11,080 said, boy, take out that cuss words and garbage and you know now 134 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:16,879 and burning Mama gave me a lot of two bags that took them. Now 135 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:22,399 our trush power. It was a long way off, and it was actually 136 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,200 on the end of the shooting range, the other end that we didn't that 137 00:11:26,279 --> 00:11:30,559 we didn't shoot towards. You know, dirt had been piled up over there 138 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,559 and then it kind of dropped off into a valley and then you know, 139 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,080 the land comes back up and down in these trees and woods back that way, 140 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,840 but it had been cleared out just just to shoot down. You know 141 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,080 that we used to chop down trees with guns and stuff. And now that 142 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,320 I think about it, as much as we shot like, I don't, 143 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:50,799 I don't know why, but now that you know, there was so many 144 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:56,480 BlackBerry bushes out there and stuff, it would it was really a great place 145 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:01,759 for like a now that I think over there or anything. But I'm walking 146 00:12:01,799 --> 00:12:07,279 down through there and I'm still shook up from being in the woods earlier and 147 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,000 I didn't see nothing, but I'm shook up from it. And now it's 148 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,360 not time and I'm in the same area that I felt like this walking down 149 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:18,600 through there, except from now I'm out of the woods in the open, 150 00:12:20,159 --> 00:12:24,480 but I know that, you know, if I were in the woods, 151 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:28,320 I can see out from there, you know, the two hundred from the 152 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,600 top of that hill with the wood line before it falls back down. You 153 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,279 know, I can see and you can see for good ways. You know, 154 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:39,360 you could actually see the houses and stuff, and nobody could look up 155 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,679 in the woods and see you in many many places. You know, that's 156 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:48,200 right. I felt so comfortable out there. So I'm walking down through there 157 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:54,480 and I get to the first little barn and I thought of the bags off 158 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,080 in the back of the barn. I'm scared, I said, you know 159 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,759 that I'll burn them tomorrow. Nobody will know. But it's such a long 160 00:13:01,799 --> 00:13:05,399 way now, I can't just walk straight back up to the house. I'm 161 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,679 sitting there kind of waiting, and I tell myself, you know, no, 162 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,720 no, no, no, you're not gonna get this right. Don't 163 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:16,320 be scared. So I wrapped the bags. I'm walking down through there. 164 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:22,919 There's some call them weeds, you know, just tall grass really all around. 165 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,879 But I walked down through there. It's a former hill where we dug 166 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:31,440 out the burnhole. It's about twenty five foot long, fourteen foot wide. 167 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,519 All the dirts pulled back up on top of the hill. They had it 168 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,159 grated to shoot towards where it sloped down, you know, in a big 169 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,080 hill come up around the world valley thing through there. Water we fill up 170 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:48,240 through there sometimes run down to a pond out there in the middle of the 171 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:54,519 woods. So I got the bags, I'm going down there. I throw 172 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,360 the first bag before I can even see the pile, and there's a big 173 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:05,080 thicket and bushes to the rotten, some huge oak trees like super big oat 174 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:11,080 trees and stuff, and an old red barn down there on the other side 175 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:16,759 of it, so structures around it. All the woods are to my left, 176 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:22,720 I thought that first bag, and it's kind of cleared off around them, 177 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:26,000 But the woods are all around the burn pile and that barn. After 178 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:28,240 that, that's the end of the road as far as you can walk without 179 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:35,159 going into the woods, unless you go to the fence line. And I 180 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,039 walked down there with the second bag. I held it up over the hole. 181 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:41,559 I pulled out the lodder, and as soon as I looked the lodder 182 00:14:41,559 --> 00:14:46,039 to burn the bag and drop it in there, I heard the loudest crack, 183 00:14:46,279 --> 00:14:48,720 like a loud stick crack, and I looked over in that direction. 184 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:56,519 I didn't I didn't see anything at first because I was looking like right at 185 00:14:56,519 --> 00:15:00,279 the noise, and it was noticed it was a giant figure. It was 186 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:03,360 solid black. I couldn't make out no details. The moonlight was on the 187 00:15:03,399 --> 00:15:09,600 back side, and it was just massive. It was huge. I followed, 188 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:13,519 I'm really by passed the legs after I figured out there was a animal 189 00:15:15,919 --> 00:15:20,720 or something, and I looked up and just the shoulders captivating, and the 190 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:24,720 shoulders were huge, like you could see the muscle definition hanging off the side 191 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:28,559 of it. And I looked down the arms a little bit, but I 192 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:31,799 had to look back up because you could just see the first hanging off the 193 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:37,720 side of the shoulders. From how massive the muscles on the shoulders were and 194 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:41,879 how wide the chest was. Why there's two men standing side by side, 195 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,919 you know, it was just it was massive. I'm forty foot away from 196 00:15:46,919 --> 00:15:54,320 it, thirty five to forty foot away from its hogs and uh, and 197 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,519 I'm froze to death. I can't move, and every hair on my body 198 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:04,879 standing up while I'm looking at this thing that I can't move or can't speak 199 00:16:06,039 --> 00:16:10,519 nothing. I just I'm looking at it, and I'm looking at the head 200 00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:12,639 areas, so I can't really make it out. I didn't see no ears 201 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,440 or nothing like that. The head that the hair was so bushy around the 202 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,759 head area, I couldn't really tell. But it was just so big. 203 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,840 I couldn't really make heads or tails or what it was. At the time. 204 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:30,559 I never seen nothing, you know, bigfoot, but never talked about, 205 00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:33,080 you know, as as seen a werewolf movie. And that's exactly what 206 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:38,759 I thought it was. That's exactly what I thought it was. And I 207 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,759 couldn't make out no descriptions as it was looking straight at me. You know, 208 00:16:42,799 --> 00:16:48,360 I couldn't make make out any parts of the face. But this is 209 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:52,600 like this is all between like seven seconds. But like I told you, 210 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:57,399 I was just stuck for that time. I couldn't move and a little glimmer 211 00:16:57,879 --> 00:17:03,240 just hit its eye like a little light, and I threw my arms up 212 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:07,519 and I shouted, oh crap aloud. I could I used the worst words 213 00:17:07,559 --> 00:17:12,119 than that. I am about thirteen years old, fourteen years old probably, 214 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,759 and I took off front and as fast as I could. And as soon 215 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:21,160 as I got that out of my mouth, this thing. I guess took 216 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:26,440 it first leap or step, but I could feel the ground vibrating. I 217 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:32,519 could hear trees and sticks and limbs breaking and crashing, like like a freight 218 00:17:32,519 --> 00:17:34,880 train was going through that. That's that's the word. Yeah, a freight 219 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,720 train. And like I said, I I knew exactly where it was because 220 00:17:38,759 --> 00:17:44,359 you can feel it steep hitting the ground. I started it when I screamed, 221 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,559 I believe. But it's running almost parallel with me, but off to 222 00:17:48,599 --> 00:17:56,359 the left moor towards the woodline. And uh, I'm running as fast as 223 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,319 I can. I decide that my parents' house is too far away, and 224 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,160 I cut to my papa off and then this house and I running there. 225 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,880 I snatched open the screen door on the porch. I didn't even pushed it 226 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,160 button. I just pulled it open. And when I got to the door, 227 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,519 I hit the door. My papa got there and about five seconds. 228 00:18:15,519 --> 00:18:18,039 He never got to the door that quick. He must have been in the 229 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,559 living room and he had his gun. He had his good dude or no, 230 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,440 he went and got his gun immediately because he didn't even ask me nothing. 231 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,200 He just went and got his gun im meeting Because I was so scared 232 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,359 and almost and almost cried. At that point, I was so scared, 233 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,839 I went, I wasn't crying, but it's really like kind of how I 234 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,160 see myself looking now that I think about it. Because I had some desperation 235 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,759 and he immediately without on the porch. My dad was like, what is 236 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:52,799 it? What is it? What's wrong? What happened. My brother, 237 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:55,440 he's a little bit older than me, he's adopted, he lived down there 238 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,960 with them, and he was like, what happened? What was it? 239 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:03,359 What was it? You see? I said, I've seen a werewolf. 240 00:19:04,279 --> 00:19:07,559 She said, well, what did it look like? I said it was 241 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:14,160 huge and big and had hair all over it and it shoulders were this wide, 242 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,519 and I showed him with mother. You know, I mean, I'm 243 00:19:15,559 --> 00:19:19,559 not tiny at fourteen, but you know I'm probably stretching my arms, but 244 00:19:19,759 --> 00:19:25,880 yeah, and I can't even reach up high enough to I remember not being 245 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,559 able to reach up high enough to show him where the shoulders and she said, 246 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,440 you see big foot? But you know, I'm not so sure. 247 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,000 But that's what I believe. And you know, it scared me for a 248 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:42,480 long time until it didn't and I actually wanted to see another big foot and 249 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:48,359 that's where I had my next experience. So I've been fishing over there and 250 00:19:48,839 --> 00:19:52,759 how did a creek for a long time. They got the gold mines up 251 00:19:52,799 --> 00:19:56,279 there, and they shot down a long time ago, and nobody really used 252 00:19:56,279 --> 00:20:00,720 that bridge, and no more. They built the new bridge and they have 253 00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:04,559 like a little damn thing you there. You know, people just guys stopped 254 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:08,279 coming around that area. And yeah, I went out there and fish the 255 00:20:08,319 --> 00:20:11,559 good bit. And being close to my house, you know, I could 256 00:20:11,559 --> 00:20:15,720 walk down the railroad tracks and and get to the back side of that creek 257 00:20:15,759 --> 00:20:21,359 and go around whether it was better fishing back up that way down about the 258 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,640 gold mine, but you had to had to drive to get there, on 259 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:27,519 down the creek and then come up it. There's actually the widest part of 260 00:20:27,599 --> 00:20:30,799 the creeks where all kinds of slugs and stuff come together. It really looks 261 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:33,680 like a lake out there in the middle of nowhere. You know, not 262 00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:38,680 many people know about it. Come on my kayaking. I'm fishing. I've 263 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,240 been coming out there a lot up above the damn and I just put in 264 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,039 and I go up creek. I've never seen anybody out there on the Kayak 265 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,720 Creek. I've seen some people down there at the bartom right there, they'll 266 00:20:48,759 --> 00:20:51,279 put in their kayaks and go down the creeker, you know, and try 267 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:55,240 to come out over there, and let's see where laking around there. I 268 00:20:55,319 --> 00:21:00,279 don't know some people, not many people even kayak. This creek is is 269 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:04,039 popular because it's more it's it's more wild than than most of them, you 270 00:21:04,079 --> 00:21:08,279 know what I mean. It's it's not care I'm coming up there. I'm 271 00:21:08,319 --> 00:21:12,599 fishing, I'm wearing the mouth. All of a sudden, I hear crunch, 272 00:21:14,079 --> 00:21:17,519 crunch, crunch. Now I've been making no noise, and I've just 273 00:21:17,599 --> 00:21:21,519 been fishing, and I've been sitting there for a while trying to spot because 274 00:21:21,519 --> 00:21:25,240 I had a couple of hits and I had a couple of good fish. 275 00:21:25,279 --> 00:21:26,880 I actually put one of them back. It was smaller because I had some 276 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:33,160 good fish, and uh, that's all I was gonna you know, I 277 00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:37,000 was taking my time, and I heard this crunch crunch. Now it's a 278 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:42,000 big ravine up this way, and it's even more like a cliff over here 279 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:45,720 on this side, nothing but rocks, and like you know, I just 280 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,960 hadn't nothing being over on the right side. But I hear this, and 281 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:52,359 I know there's a little trail off on the left side, but at this 282 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,720 point the trail is so thin that you don't even know if it's a trailer 283 00:21:55,759 --> 00:21:59,039 that you hike on the walk on, you know what I mean. But 284 00:21:59,279 --> 00:22:03,039 many people come out there, and uh, at this point, I'm pretty 285 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:07,160 good ways out there. I'm at least a mile out there, and at 286 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,359 this point it's national far as you know. The gold mines are up there 287 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:17,920 to the left where it connects together. And uh, I hear, I 288 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,480 hear it. It's getting louder. Crunch, crunch, crunch, crunch. 289 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:27,200 Actually it's might have been shorter than that. Crunch, crunch, crunch, 290 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:33,000 crunch, like I don't know, like long drawn out footsteps, and it 291 00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:37,920 just got louder and louder. I'm thinking, man, I should see whatever 292 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,440 whoever this is or whatever it is, and my mind kind of went straight 293 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,799 to Bigfoot. But at the same time, I'm really thinking, like, 294 00:22:44,319 --> 00:22:47,119 this could be somebody just walking out here. You know, I've seen people 295 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,039 walk out here before, you know, I've heard of people coming out here 296 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:55,119 and encamping a rod. You know, you gotta buy you gotta get the 297 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,559 key now from the city to go out there to drive far with us because 298 00:22:57,559 --> 00:23:03,039 I got trails and stuff that used to mind out there a lot. And 299 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:08,400 uh, it's kind of a little mountain out there, but I'm going down 300 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,160 through there. No, I'm just sitting there listening. Yes, I'm sitting 301 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,480 there listening, and it's just it's got so loud to the point where I 302 00:23:17,559 --> 00:23:19,880 feel like I should see this. But it was so high up on the 303 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,720 Ravinia, walking through like a thick area. I didn't see how it was 304 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:26,079 moving through there like that, but it was, and I never seen nothing 305 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,720 that it faded off, but it was so loud that I couldn't believe. 306 00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:34,000 I couldn't see anything, and I was almost convinced it was big foot, 307 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:38,160 but I let it slip my mind because I'm fishing now, and it just 308 00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:45,920 it veered off, kind of back away from the creek like a U sounds 309 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,279 like I did at you right there. But I didn't make any noise or 310 00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:53,519 nothing until I heard it fade off hard, and I rolled on up through 311 00:23:53,559 --> 00:23:59,000 creeking now some hours and then went by. It's probably it's probably I've been 312 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:03,480 out there since at eight o'clock in the morning, seven o'clock in the morning. 313 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:10,039 Maybe it's probably like five o'clock, like if I pad a horror, 314 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:15,119 I'll be back at seven o'clock. Yeah, to be a most dark. 315 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:18,599 And my butt and I started hurting. And I've seen a snake come up 316 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,640 out the creek after a frog, and I tried to catch it, but 317 00:24:22,039 --> 00:24:23,920 yeah, I didn't know. I didn't really didn't see where it when I 318 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:29,759 couldn't get out of my kayak clicking though, and though you know, I 319 00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:32,240 got up out of there. I'm sitting on a rock and the spot where 320 00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:33,799 I'm at is like a bend in the creek, so like the land on 321 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:40,039 the left side, it's all coming downhill now and it's coming towards the creek 322 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,640 and you can actually see up through that hill a good bit and I start 323 00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:48,400 hearing again, no, forgive me. Before I got to this point, 324 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,519 I've seen something very strange. Off to the left, on the same side 325 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,960 of the creek. There was a big rock and like boulder hanging out and 326 00:24:57,039 --> 00:25:02,279 it was in the water and hanging out the water, and I'm just rolling 327 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,519 through their real quiet and out of nowhere, like I seem like I think 328 00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:11,559 it was like a little monkey, like a small monkey, and it, 329 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,480 you know, I kind of tried to think, you know, maybe it's 330 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,440 an outer, because I've seen a ortter get up on the side of the 331 00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:19,920 creek and they look, you know, when they're wet like that, they 332 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:26,480 look kind of like sleek and like that. But my arms were too long, 333 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,039 and I don't remember telling nothing, but I just remember like a little 334 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:37,880 monkey looking animal about literally no more than two and a half foot tall, 335 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,400 come out around the side of the rock and I can't be another more than 336 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,720 ten foot away to me, twelve foot away. I ride right around the 337 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:45,119 other side of the rock, like there should be nowhere for it to go. 338 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,119 I can see up the heel if it wizard run off. When I 339 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,559 got around the those I didn't see there was nothing there, and it's what 340 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,680 made me could think, you though, that it must have been an otter. 341 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,000 Well, then, like my buck get to hurt and I hop out, 342 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:02,480 I hop out on the rock and I'm sitting there and I hear the 343 00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:06,240 footsteps again, coming straight towards me. There's no other direction it can come 344 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,640 now because the creek vs around. It's coming. It's coming my way and 345 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:14,319 straight to me. I just sit there and I'm listening. Now I'm anxious 346 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,240 I'm like, oh yeah, I'm thinking the sea pretty gone is what I 347 00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:19,960 wanted. Or this creature, whatever it was. I wanted to see what 348 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:22,640 it looked like, because all I got was a black shadow before. You 349 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:30,000 know, although I descriptively to see the shape of it and stuff like that, 350 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,599 dude, I just wanted to see it. You know. It's just 351 00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:40,720 daylight and I'm sitting there waiting and I'm hearing crunch crunch, crunch, crunch, 352 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:44,200 and it's getting so loud to the point where I like, I feel 353 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,079 like I should see this animal coming, like it should. It sounds like 354 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:52,200 it's already here, but I don't see nothing, and it's starting to freak 355 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:53,880 me out. And it gets so loud to the point where I like, 356 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,960 I know, I'm fixing to see whatever it is coming down the hill now. 357 00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:03,200 And it just dawned on me that I don't want to surprise whatever this 358 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,200 is, so I said, hey, you know, kind of loud. 359 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,839 And when I did that, I didn't hear another noise period. I didn't 360 00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:15,119 hear nothing. I sat there for about thirty seconds and I put my fishing 361 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,799 pole in the back. I threw the fish out of the cooler up there 362 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:22,720 on the side of the bank and I slid off on my belly on my 363 00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:26,559 kayak. I left out of there in less than two minutes because I didn't 364 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:30,559 hear another noise, and that's what freaked me out to murder. Somebody would 365 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:34,400 have said something if it was a person, you know. I slid up 366 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,640 out of there, and I paddled really fast, really quietly, so I 367 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,279 could listen, and I didn't hear nothing. I got about it there. 368 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,319 That freaked me out. But at the same time, I wasn't fighting, 369 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,200 no one wasn't scared. And then oh, after that encounter right there, 370 00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:53,759 I had a strong belief that they lived over there in that area, and 371 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,960 that was not far from my home. You know, it kind of confirmed 372 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,960 my leaf. But at the same time, I've never seen what it was, 373 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,240 so I can't say it was a big foot or a dog man. 374 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:10,880 I really can't say. The first one was well, I live over here 375 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,759 a month in Alabama. Now I live out here on thirty eight acres, 376 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,039 most of it still and it just goes on down for a long way in 377 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:26,319 the creek line from Coldwater Creek offer seehaw Mountain is the property line. And 378 00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:30,160 uh, Ever, since I moved out here. Man, it's you know, 379 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:34,000 I felt like there's a predator out here. I really hadn't. Like 380 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:37,720 I went down there to the creek, I went fishing and stuff like that, 381 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,119 and I've even went hunting. And before I could even walk halfway down 382 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,720 the field, I found a deer almost dead. You couldn't even stand up. 383 00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:48,759 Its legs had been knocked up so much, but it was still alive. 384 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,079 I ended it and we ate the front legs because they were all rock. 385 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,440 But you know, my dogs are always bringing up dead deers and dead 386 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:07,279 animal carcass like all the time, and like the same thing. Like over 387 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,759 here especially, I feel like, especially in this big field, and they're 388 00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:14,640 being surrounded by the wood line and the woods over here all the way to 389 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,559 the left until it gets down to the creek, which is the property line, 390 00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:21,400 and it comes all the way up around to my house where the railroad 391 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,839 tracks are literally on the other side of my house. Up here at the 392 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,960 top of the hill, I can look down all the way to the bottom 393 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,359 of the property line really to the creek and a little tree line down there. 394 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:37,480 And though I just felt like I'm always being watched out here, and 395 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,920 so you know, I got back into researching big Foot, which I did 396 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,160 a lot of. I watched all the videos on stuff and crypton and stuff, 397 00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:51,000 and you know, I've always been super interested and were wolves and what 398 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,799 I know now to be a dog man. I've always been very interested in 399 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,319 them, but there's never been much about him out there, you know, 400 00:29:57,599 --> 00:30:02,039 So I just I really gave up on trying to learn about that until recently, 401 00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:06,920 after living out here the last three years, I started researching Bigfoot again 402 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,720 and I come across your show Actually Man Encounters and dog Man Radio, and 403 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:17,400 man, I just fell in love. Like that's all I could really relate 404 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,519 to anymore. As well. I wanted to hear about because like the problem 405 00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:23,799 of fear that I still had, it couldn't be explained by Bigfoot, Like 406 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,799 I like, yeah, he's scary, but you know, I don't know. 407 00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:32,319 I don't know. I don't feel like they. I don't feel like 408 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,720 they really are out to get people at all, none of them really. 409 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,279 But I do, at the same time feel like I don't know why I 410 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:47,640 keep seeing things like this and monsters and stuff like that, if they don't 411 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:51,559 if they're not out for certain people, or if you know, if just 412 00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:55,720 me having an encounter has made me super sensitive and aware of my surroundings. 413 00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:57,759 I believe that Mabe would. It is because when I move around through here, 414 00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:02,160 I don't move around like just anybody just walking be walking around, maybe 415 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,400 even looking at their phone. I don't need to take a phone out of 416 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,440 my house. I don't. I'll move and I stopped. I move, 417 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:11,759 I competitor. Before I move again, I make sure there's nothing else around 418 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,480 me. And I don't know why I've always been like that, and now 419 00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:18,400 I can think back and no relating now because I can't go out there with 420 00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:25,119 men. But I don't go outside at not like I am right now anymore, 421 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,039 especially not far. And I don't I don't like to go off from 422 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:33,440 the woods very far by myself anymore. When I used to, it was 423 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:37,799 nothing for me to five miles from the house before I ever get worried about 424 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,200 getting lost, because I have a great sense of direction. You know, 425 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:49,160 we'll quit bragging and tell you that up here. It wasn't long ago. 426 00:31:49,599 --> 00:31:55,440 I was walking down the road actually from here, and that's when I was 427 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,599 trying to get to the store. I just I needed to get to the 428 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,279 store and get some things. I was craving some dep a depth to back 429 00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:07,200 of and I'm walking because they've impounded my truck or something like that. I 430 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:12,680 don't got a driver's license, and State took my driver's license. And it's 431 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,160 about three or four miles to the store, and I'm walking. There's a 432 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,920 rural area. I'm walking. There ain't many cars coming up and down the 433 00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:23,960 road alone and see them maybe two. And I'm more than halfway. And 434 00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:29,319 it's a long stretch of road across the bridge, across the creek. It's 435 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,680 chuco Lock Creek runs through here too. They had two creeks over here. 436 00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:36,599 They actually would come together right here at the bottom of my property line. 437 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,359 About a mile past my property line. Cold Water Creek runs in the chocol 438 00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:45,799 Lock Creek. So I'm walking down through there, and from the creek bridge 439 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,480 to where I am, you can see a whole mile and the roads just 440 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,519 straight. It's flat, you know, there's like little bumps in it, 441 00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:57,000 but you can see a long way. And I'm starting to get to the 442 00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,839 hill area of this woods. On both sides, I maybe walk past you 443 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,720 know, seven eight houses in that frame. You know, just people don't 444 00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:09,640 live close together out here, you know, like neighbors is if you can 445 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,559 see their house, you know that's it's a pretty close neighbor. So I'm 446 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,720 right there and I see the car coming and everything. I already walked to 447 00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:22,839 the other side of the road, and uh, it's coming from a long 448 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,240 ways, so I got time and it's actually ducked off where the lights aren't 449 00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:30,400 coming, and h I kind of pause right there for a second, and 450 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,799 I turned up get the walking again. I'm on the other side of the 451 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,599 road and I'm not worried about the car and no more. Well, now 452 00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:38,240 the lights start coming up in the air, and I know they're fitting to 453 00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:43,640 come down and she'll see me for the first time. So as soon as 454 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,680 this happens, I see the biggest shadow I ever saw, a flow over 455 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:52,640 me, thick, and I heard the noise from jeepers creepers to that flat 456 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,839 and I looked up and it was scary. It was scary. I didn't 457 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,359 see it. I didn't see anything. I didn't see nothing. I looked 458 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,119 up and imagine how fast it was. But I was freaked out. And 459 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,200 this happened. This happened, not even it couldn't have been two weeks before 460 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,320 my dog man encounter this happened. It makes me feel like I don't know. 461 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:17,599 They do have a link to the spiritual area. I believe because I've 462 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:23,400 gotten so much more spiritual in the last few years to the point to where 463 00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:28,679 I've I've been able to tell people things I shouldn't I shouldn't know you know, 464 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,519 people around here. But anyways, I get back to the house, 465 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,800 ended up being able to find a ride and having to walk all the way 466 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,159 back. At this point, I say I'm not going outside at night the 467 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,079 work because that was freaking and I'll be darned. Two weeks later, it's 468 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:51,639 broad daylight. I walk out the front door and when I duke not the 469 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:53,519 back, the back door. I'm sorry, the back door. I call 470 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:58,000 up my dogs. They come running from around the side of the house up 471 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,519 up to me on the back porch and s them, well, it seeming 472 00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:06,519 my cat he's way off down. They're walking up there woodline right here in 473 00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:08,840 front of me, right now, coming up to my trailer. I'm over 474 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:15,280 here in my mama's house right now. They see that's ten yards it's twenty. 475 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,719 She's thirty yards away, thirty five yards away from my house, and 476 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,840 the woods are right literally right behind my house, like I don't got much 477 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,480 room in between my my little trailer right here in the woods, and the 478 00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:37,079 woodline goes down until it meets the creek and coming up that woodline on the 479 00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:40,159 field the cat. This is my daughter's cat, she had it since a 480 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,800 kit. And I see him. I thinking, man, what's he doing. 481 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,039 He's starting to walk run around a good bit more, you know, 482 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,000 he's just now starting to get to be a bigger cat. And uh, 483 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,159 my daughter loves this cat, and I'm concerned about it. So I'm watching. 484 00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:58,440 I'm standing there watching it actually walk up off the porch and over here 485 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,320 run to the side of this of them, and I'm actually trying to sneak 486 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,400 up on the cat. Yeah, I'm trying to moving away to where the 487 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,039 cat don't see me so I can just see what it does. And when 488 00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:12,599 I come around, I peek around the side of there, I see something 489 00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:20,519 in the woods behind the cat about I don't know, fifteen twenty foot behind 490 00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:24,119 the cat, and it's in the woodline. It's in the woodline maybe you 491 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,320 know, ten foot the cats maybe ten foot out the wood behind, you 492 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,199 know, and it's just creeping through there. At first, I actually thought 493 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:37,280 it was like a few dogs, but it was too tall. It just 494 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,239 was moving funny. It was moving funny at first, and I could kind 495 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,840 of see the front of it at first, like coming straight, you know. 496 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:49,159 So I couldn't tell what it was at first until until I kind of 497 00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:52,639 moved around and I could see it long ways then and it was crawling. 498 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:59,719 It was about ten foot long, nine nine foot from the butt to the 499 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:05,960 head air ten foot loan and the back legs came out a little bit further. 500 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,320 And now I'm thinking now I was saying a package. I was, 501 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,760 this is like a super dog. And then my next thought was like hold 502 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,320 on, because even though I started watching the show and we kind of become 503 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,800 an obsessed with dog Man, I still couldn't really laid it together at first 504 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,119 because it was crawling, and you know, I heard I hadn't heard about 505 00:37:24,199 --> 00:37:29,760 him being on all fours too much at that time, you know, and 506 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,480 uh, it was just huge. It was massive. I couldn't believe what 507 00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:36,000 I was seeing, you know. It took me, took me a minute. 508 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,360 And this time that I'm thinking about it now that I've kind of put 509 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,280 it together, like this thing ain't a bear, like it looks like a 510 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,760 grizzly bear. It's like a break Oh yeah, it's like a brownish reddish 511 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:52,079 color, right, And the hair was kind of loan, but not on 512 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,800 the belly area. Not wasn't really that long, but it was kind of 513 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,039 long in other areas. And the stomach was just too skinny to be a 514 00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:05,519 bear. It was too skinny to be a bear in the stomach. And 515 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:08,239 the back legs wasn't right. I remember seeing the back legs real good, 516 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:14,760 and I've seen the shoulders in the arms. It looked pretty natural. Wait, 517 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,840 let's move them. But at the same time, I think it was 518 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,199 in a stalking moat, so it wasn't. And it kept on putting its 519 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,679 head behind like the next tree before it would move. It's like it's like 520 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,880 naturally moved in a way to hide its face. I didn't get a very 521 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,079 good clear look at the face, like I just just could barely like see 522 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:36,880 tall ears every now and again coming around stuff, and a lot of hair, 523 00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:39,079 a lot of hair in the in the head area to where I couldn't 524 00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:44,159 tell really, And I'm at this point, you know, I know, 525 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,280 like, Okay, this cat's in danger, and I know what you're thinking. 526 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:52,079 Like that, that's crazy. But my daughter adopted a stray cat before 527 00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:58,719 that because she loves cats, and it bit her in the face and I 528 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,440 killed it out of anger, and I felt terrible about that, So she 529 00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:07,119 got this cat. So I don't want nothing to happen to this cat. 530 00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:12,960 And I'm approaching this thing. I'm coming that way, thinking, you know, 531 00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:15,199 I don't know what I'm thinking, but I'm thinking, you know, 532 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,719 I can I can come that way and discourage it from following the cat. 533 00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:22,679 I can come that way, and I can maybe just scare it off that 534 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,239 my presence can come that way. I wasn't I was feeling really frightful until 535 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,280 I got about right there. And I'm not sure how sure far away that 536 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,639 is. But if I could guess how far away that is, but I'm 537 00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:40,320 telling you I could. At this point, it's at the point where it 538 00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:45,519 would it would probably notice me if I took another step and such, something 539 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:50,480 kind of just like snapped over in me, like, hold on, this 540 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,320 is a beast. This thing is a thing as a monster. It is 541 00:39:54,360 --> 00:40:00,519 a predator, a super credator, you tom, And that's exactly what I 542 00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:07,760 didn't turn around immediately, right back around in the same path way up towards 543 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,320 the house, and I turned around and I looked a few times, and 544 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,719 I just like I could kind of see the area it was in, but 545 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,119 it's like it kind of like I don't know what it did, but it's 546 00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:20,800 kind of like it just bled out of you. I couldn't see it no 547 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,079 more. By the time I got to the porch, I couldn't see it 548 00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:25,280 at all. And when I went in, my mom was standing right there. 549 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,840 She said, we're leaving. Were going to Poppy's house for boyfriends, 550 00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:34,079 taking my kid and my nephew. So you know, I rushed them up 551 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:36,920 out there, you know, just saying yeah, yeah, y'all go ahead 552 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,920 and get don't know about it here. I came back outside. Actually I 553 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,719 looked at the cameras because we got cameras. We don't never really look through 554 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,639 none of it footage or nothing, but we got cameras. You can see 555 00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:50,639 all around the house. I sat there looking at the cameras for a while, 556 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,599 up forwards, salt around everything in the house, and I was watching 557 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,280 some dog Man, some more of your dog Man videos, because I was 558 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,239 like, I really just see one and I'm just sitting here watching these videos 559 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,440 and now I just really see one, and uh, I reached out to 560 00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:09,800 you. I hope I didn't leave out any details about that dog man. 561 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:15,400 Let me think, Okay, it was five foot tall in the front area, 562 00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:20,760 I mean ten foot long to the butt. The legs came out further 563 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,079 in the back, and at least four foot tall in the back area. 564 00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:28,079 I've never seen it stand up, but I seen it do something weird as 565 00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:30,599 I was leaving, but I wasn't, you know, focused on it at 566 00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:34,400 that time. It didn't move its body in a strange way, and there 567 00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:37,679 was no longer crawling at that point. I you know, Vic, like 568 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,559 I told you, I just I felt that I knew I entered the danger 569 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,639 zone. Is when I did it. I entered that danger zone. And 570 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,559 that's all I really wanted to do was discourage anything that I thought was fixing. 571 00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:55,320 It happen like an attack from a cap But I was terrified that night. 572 00:41:55,679 --> 00:42:01,800 I ended up actually yet off the dog man stuff to listen to the 573 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:07,199 word of God. I was kind of scared, but I joined the group 574 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:12,079 and everything dog man incounters on Facebook. I believe it was somebody on there, 575 00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:15,719 or it was somebody I told my experience too they said, did you 576 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,760 ever have nightmares? And I heard maybe I maybe I heard somebody on a 577 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,840 video or something to talk about having nightmares or or somebody asked me. But 578 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,159 when somebody asked me if I had nightmares about it, I realized then that 579 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,239 I was like, no, I didn't. I never had any nightmares after 580 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,559 that, but I was pretty paranoid about them. I never had any nightmares 581 00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:37,159 and nothing more I thought about it. I was like, man, I 582 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,559 used to have nightmares about a giant wolf all the time when I was a 583 00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:46,440 kid. And then I could remember my nightmares all but a sudden like like 584 00:42:46,519 --> 00:42:50,840 I it's like I said, I pressed them to the age of seven, 585 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,400 eight nine or something, you know, five or whatever. I don't know. 586 00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:59,000 It's like I suppressed them. The nightmares used to have because a giant 587 00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:04,400 terrible looking terrible like snarling, scrunched up face, but it would look more 588 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,239 like a regular wolf. What would they have the big ears, and it 589 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,679 would just come straight out of the darkness and just look at me and like 590 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,440 scared the mess out of me, and I would either wake up or that 591 00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:17,440 would just be the end of the dream, and I wake up later. 592 00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:22,159 And it got to where I had dreams like that a lot. I remember 593 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,599 telling people about them because I have them so much. He said, when 594 00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:30,840 you have dreams repetitively, it means something, you know. And the more 595 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,840 I thought about that, I remember, I remembered. I remember being small 596 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,159 like that, and I remember my dreams and stuff, and I remembered being 597 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:45,760 at my grandma's house and Westgate, Talladega, Alabama. It's part of the 598 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,199 downs, really, but you know, it's there's some wilderness around there, 599 00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:52,920 you know, I mean, never think nothing about it. I'm in my 600 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:54,920 playroom. It's on the end of the house. You know, we're really 601 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,760 poor. We're the only white people in the area. We're not even white. 602 00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:05,440 Next start pretty bad Mexican and other stuff. I don't even I can't 603 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,679 even tell you, but it's easier to tell you what I'm not. But 604 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,440 it was it was tough around there or whatever. I have a few memories 605 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,440 of being a kid and being over there just because of my grandma had a 606 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:21,519 great grandma. The playroom back there had all kinds of toys and stuff back 607 00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:23,480 there for me. My grandma kept me back there more than my mom and 608 00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:28,880 dad. She was going through some stuff and that bedroom back there. It 609 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,760 was. It was about the ground. There was a window. The back 610 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:37,880 of the room is a long room, about twenty thirty foot room with the 611 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,760 door. They kept it shut to just let me play in there. You 612 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:45,159 know. Well, I remember I was small at the time, but I 613 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,639 remember this window was really high ab off the ground. Big it was. 614 00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:52,840 It was really high because I could climb upper fence and stand on the fence 615 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,079 and then grab the window thing and pull myself in. It would be too 616 00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:02,000 scared to try to climb up in it. And maybe I'm three or four 617 00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:06,280 years old at this time, and that's my memory of the you know, 618 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,239 after this, it's my memory of the window. How tall it was. 619 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,639 It was a tall window. But I just got a weird feeling, I 620 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,920 guess. I really can't tell you. I remember just turning around, sitting 621 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,840 in the floor with some toys or something. I just turned around those toys 622 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:27,239 everywhere, and when I looked at the window, I seen a huge face. 623 00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:30,119 And I say face because it wasn't a lot of hair on it, 624 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:37,280 and the nose was so far apart it was. It was strange. That's 625 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,119 why I didn't really Maybe I was suppressure. I really didn't relate it with 626 00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:45,440 with with dog men at first, but now I can't remember. Now, 627 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:52,519 I can't remember how big this head was. And I almost almost I almost 628 00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:55,400 wanted to say it had on like something on its head, but it might 629 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,639 now that I think about it, I think it was just like black fur 630 00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:02,800 around his head sticking off at the face was like you could see it was 631 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,760 like a purple and gray and and it was just wrinkled up all around the 632 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:15,000 face and it and it opened and it had huge teeth that like almost were 633 00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:23,239 like crossing. It would move its mouth and it did the thing that some 634 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,719 people talk about where it curls up his lips and smiles. That's what it 635 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,679 did. Had huge eyes. I can't remember the color. I think it 636 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,800 were black. I think they were black. It was. It was so 637 00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:38,440 frightening. I asked my mom about it after I remember that, said, 638 00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:43,519 Mama, I ever tell you about anything I've seen in my playroom when I 639 00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:46,480 was really little bit in with Grandma. He said, Grandma said, you 640 00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:50,760 come up out of there one time and would not go back in there and 641 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,000 play. She said that you've seen the monster. And then she said, 642 00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:57,079 and it's true, because I would come over there, and you would not 643 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,880 go in there and play for like two or three weeks. You wouldn't even 644 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:01,960 go in the room. So I don't remember none of that, but they 645 00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:08,840 told me that. Now I remember it. It's like some some some trauma 646 00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:15,320 or something. But now it's it's around here too. The other day, 647 00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:17,719 actually, I went camping with my buddies down here. I'm trying to kind 648 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,960 of like I've been going out down there a little bit more let them, 649 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:28,960 not really trying to provoke another encounter, but I want to. I want 650 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,280 to be able to have freedom here too, or come to an understanding door 651 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,159 or whatever's out here. But I bought some friends out here, and that 652 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,599 might not have been a good idea, and we camped. But that's the 653 00:47:39,679 --> 00:47:44,079 only way I'm camping out there. You know. It's it's hard. It's 654 00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:47,320 hard enough for me to walk down or and see now I'm having to walk 655 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,360 down in the set. I'm not driving down through there like I usually used 656 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,920 to. Ever went down there, and I never stayed too long. And 657 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:59,480 I'm fishing number I take my daughter down there to fish, and I can't 658 00:47:59,519 --> 00:48:02,519 stand do it. But maybe an hour we've had deer run right behind us 659 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,760 like full speed as we're fishing, like not worried about us, like I 660 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,920 told you, I just there's a predator around here. You know. Well, 661 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,360 we went down there and got the camping. We're actually not even in 662 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,440 the property. We went out into the woodline so far. I was trying 663 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,239 to find a really nice spark and it's trying to get dark. I sling 664 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:29,199 bladed off a bunch of stuff and brought a big cardboard box laid down and 665 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,599 they're putting together a tent, and I had them all go get firedwood too. 666 00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:36,280 You know, some younger cats, I know their brother. They look 667 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,599 up to me a little bit. I preached to them and tell them things 668 00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:45,039 and give them knowledge. So we're down there putting stuff together. Some of 669 00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:49,760 these guys are just lazy, lazy. One of us guy broke collar bone 670 00:48:50,199 --> 00:49:00,280 hitaling from it, and we just hear a weird a really weird reach. 671 00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:05,679 It was a screech. Maybe it sounded like something was in pain almost, 672 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,480 but it didn't sound like a normal animal. It kind of like it sounded 673 00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:15,559 funny. It sounded really funny. It was not regular. And as soon 674 00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:17,840 as we heard it and it sounded close, it sounded like just on the 675 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,559 other side of the hill. Yeah, I mean there's some thick thing it 676 00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:25,119 woods. And then it kind of like I don't know, but we're right 677 00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:29,519 there off the creek and we hear that. They all look at me and 678 00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:32,760 just like big guys, because you know, I've told all them about my 679 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:39,800 dog man experience and my other dog man experiences or Big Cred experiences and religious 680 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:47,360 experiences. I've had crazy things happening. I'm not sure why nobody knows, 681 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,800 but there's a lot of stuff out there that they don't tell you about. 682 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:58,880 Right, I'm down there. We hear the screech, right, so I 683 00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:01,480 kind of just time to play it off like it ain't a big deal. 684 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,159 And then fellas kind of do the same thing, you know. Well, 685 00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:08,679 I leave two of them. I tell them like, look, you never 686 00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:13,639 never go anywhere along out here. We're moving twos the sport which we're moving 687 00:50:13,679 --> 00:50:17,559 twos. We're running back to the house and get some water, and we're 688 00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:21,480 cooking hamburgers, hot dogs and stuff. We gotta go on on. Man. 689 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,320 We got a little separate fire with like a little great you know thing, 690 00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:28,760 you know, with the charco orders straight them. I put them on 691 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,360 top of some little sticks. You know, we're cooking the hamburger straight off 692 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,880 that thing. Hot dogs. It's going down and uh but this wasn't on 693 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,639 go. This is right before I started my fast, so still fast. 694 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:45,840 Now it's starting to get dark. We go get the stuff, come back. 695 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,119 It's starting to get dark, or it is dark at this point. 696 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,679 We come back through the woods and not you know, I'm freaked out about 697 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:53,760 it, but you know, we're together. We got a michety, I 698 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,679 got a twenty two I got, but I took a gun with me and 699 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,000 got a little chety which I give to one of them before I leave, 700 00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:06,000 or I leave the gun, leave one of them chetty, or get my 701 00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:09,199 buddy chetty. I got a sword. That's kind of weird, I know, 702 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,000 but it makes me feel better. And we're coming down through there and 703 00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:19,639 we're here. We're starting to hear some funny stuff around there, and they 704 00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:22,760 start saying, oh yeah, dog man, listen. I said, look, 705 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:25,679 they don't do that. Don't encourage that, man. They say, 706 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:30,239 if you talk about document like that, you might just show up. So 707 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,119 you know, I'm kind of on edge now I'm gonna holler actually because it's 708 00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:37,599 don't got pitch black. I want none. I'm gonna get no firewood now, 709 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:43,639 you hear me. And the fire's getting row and stuff. One of 710 00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:45,519 them has done went in to the tent, went to sleep, and duh, 711 00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:55,599 calm down. Okay, I hope it's okay. Yeah, I mean 712 00:51:55,679 --> 00:52:00,880 too. And she can probably see something I can't. It's a big field 713 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:07,280 and there's fogg on it now, calling down. It's okay. These two 714 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,559 dogs, all right, So they get off in the tent and you know, 715 00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:15,840 I'm I'm trying to sit up a little while. You know, the 716 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,800 fire is kind of I'm made a nice fire head. You go get wood 717 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,320 and stuff. Now, the fire, you know, strong and stuff. 718 00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:28,800 And it's about two o'clock two thirty. Now I'm sitting on the outside of 719 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,719 the tent and I just I feel vulnerable there. But I've been sitting up 720 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:37,000 about thirty minutes past everybody going in the tent and laying down. I finally 721 00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:40,599 crawled up in there. By the time I crawl up into there's already somebody 722 00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:45,000 snowhare and I lay down right there for it's four minute in this tent. 723 00:52:45,039 --> 00:52:49,360 It's not a small tent, but it's not a big tent. But you 724 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:55,440 know, we feel in there and I'm sitting there and finally zip up the 725 00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:59,719 tent and I'm hearing some stuff and I'm not really worried about it. Now. 726 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,679 All three of them are snoring, right, all three of these boys 727 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,400 are snoring, and all of a sudden, I hear the biggest I know 728 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,639 it was a rock because I heard it hit the rocks under the water, 729 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:20,159 and I really it was a huge splash. Vic it was a huge splash 730 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,880 like this had to be in a rock, like if you if something jumped 731 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,760 in the water, it wouldn't be that lie. It was a giant rock. 732 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,159 What are y'all looking at? Quit that freaking me out. We had 733 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:36,719 to talk about it and be outside because I really feel like these things watch 734 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,679 us all the time, way more than we know, especially me, And 735 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,960 I don't know why I feel like that, which you know, I seek 736 00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:51,800 my refuge from the Lord, and he saved me in passing. He saved 737 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,519 me before you know, I'm really alive today because of him, and I 738 00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:02,280 do as well. But I'm getting off another rock. This was the biggest 739 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:07,119 rock. I can't tell you how the biggest rock was if I had to 740 00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:08,840 guess it was a four hundred pound rock hit in the water. Like it 741 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:14,079 after it hit the water, it instantly was smacking the rocks of under. 742 00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:15,760 It was loud. It was so loud it was scary. I couldn't believe 743 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:21,719 they didn't wake up. I immediately they shook two and they didn't wake up, 744 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,920 not a bit. I mean, granted, you know, they had 745 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:30,159 a few drinks and stuff, but they didn't even budge. And then I 746 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:36,400 heard another rock. It's even closer. It's not as big, but it's 747 00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:39,039 it's a big rock. It hit the water with some forest. And then 748 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,840 I heard another one. I actually I managed to wake up my buddy and 749 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:49,639 Nathan, and we heard the other one. And he snored again. And 750 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,039 then three seconds but it was right outside the tent, like bright in the 751 00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:57,280 creek outside the tenth the rock was staring right over there. And I'm now 752 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,840 I'm thinking, like, oh, on rocks, And that first one was 753 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,519 so big. All I can think is that the rock is fishing to land 754 00:55:05,559 --> 00:55:08,719 on the tent and freaking kill us, freaking kill at least two of us. 755 00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:14,480 So I laid down, you know, I'm trying to listen through all 756 00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:16,400 the snore and and stuff, and I can hear some cracking and stuff, 757 00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:21,400 and they leave hamburger patties out, stuff like that, all kinds of stuff, 758 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,559 you know. But I had the gun and everything, you know. 759 00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:30,000 I don't know if it really used enough like, but I got the gun 760 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:35,079 and everything. I'm right there with it. I'm laying down making no noise 761 00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:37,519 for I don't know how long I stayed up, but I finally those dog 762 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:43,320 I went to sleep. The next day, I found some very interesting tracks, 763 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,840 but I didn't take my phone with me, or I would have took 764 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,960 pictures up them, you know. I didn't take my phone with me. 765 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,079 I wish I had to walk back and got my phone and took a picture 766 00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:58,559 of This ain't a dog man track. All I can think of is this 767 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,079 maybe be a bear And I don't know. I've never seen a bear track. 768 00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:06,079 I don't. It's just if I had to guess, you know. 769 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,880 But I don't. I don't know about that last experience, if it relates, 770 00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:15,400 because I kind of thought big foot. But at the same time, 771 00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:17,119 the last thing I've seen over here with a dark man, So I don't. 772 00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:21,280 I don't. I'm not sure. I'm still sure. There's so much 773 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,480 we don't know about in this place I'm at now, It's like it's the 774 00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:30,559 perfect areaa we got. We got so much livestock and the creeps that run 775 00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:34,760 through here in the fields and stuff. Is it's literally like a highway for 776 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:40,280 deer and animals and stuff like that. Like I was thinking people were sneaking 777 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,719 out through here and hunting it and stuff when I first moved here because of 778 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:52,519 stuff them being broken and passed being through the woodline of the creek and stuff, 779 00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:55,800 you know. But now that I think about it, I'm thinking, 780 00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,760 man, man, may need This isn't isn't hunters and all these footstep looking 781 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,800 tracks, and this isn't people coming out here at all. You know. 782 00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:09,639 It is pretty remote. But that's all I have as far as my experiences. 783 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:15,679 But like I said, I think that whatever's over here doesn't really have 784 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,679 a problem with us, and I like that. I haven't felt really threatened 785 00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:24,920 out here at all. Yeah, But at the same time, I feel 786 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:30,920 like creatures, monsters and these things like I don't know, I don't feel 787 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,960 I don't know. I say why, like I know how some people have 788 00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:38,679 multiple encounters and now I've had multiple encounters, and like I don't know what 789 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,920 to think about some of them, because it's like they sprung on you. 790 00:57:43,079 --> 00:57:47,079 I only found out about dog Man not long before, which I always kind 791 00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:51,280 of believed there was a like a rare wolf type thing, which I don't 792 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,639 know if I believe that people transformed into them. But you know, I 793 00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,679 never heard about dog Man until I found your show. I say able to 794 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,880 relate with it in so many ways. I wanted to share my encounter with 795 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,480 others, true if it helps anybody, because all of that has helped me 796 00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:14,000 a lot. That's all I got. Vick, Well, it's awfully admirable 797 00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:16,400 that you're concerned about helping people, So I'm impressed