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On on on ah. That was
the longest we are rolling by producer Gary

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in the history of rolling. Yes, of the history of the damn basement.

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We are here. It's fucking basement, man, and it's hot.

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It's supposed to be cool in the
basement. Not a chance, But we're

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here. CEO pre show episode for
four field four for four. Yes,

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holy shit. Yes, we're brought
to you by the wonderful patrons at Patreon

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dot com slash CECO podcast, whether
they like it or not. And we'll

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say the duffer An Avenue Media Network
Studio studio. What sure, because like

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we're we're here, We're in the
basement, yes, which is a place.

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I guess it does mean we are
physically present at the facility. That's

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true, only in body, only
in body. This is CECO after all.

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And classic deck tech a. Yes, we're gonna talk about a deck

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from yester years. Is this like
the last kind of Is this like the

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last one that kind of took over, like was so prolific through several formats

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And we haven't really, we haven't
really talked about it on the show because

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I don't think it is. I
don't think it is. I'll tell you

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I'll answer that question in a secon, but I've gotta I've gotta tell you

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a couple of things first, Okay, tell you a couple of things.

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Okay, I got some rave and
resounding reviews. Are our podcast on the

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longer pre show last week and short
turnaround time, so we don't have a

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pre show winner. Don't turn it
off yet. Yeah, we're gonna play

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the booster Pac game. But everybody
liked the the audio version and the longer

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pre show, so I don't know
if you want to keep doing that or

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not. Well, we can keep
doing then when we have stuff to talk

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about. I guess and you're shooting
the ship. Okay, So the last

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back to your question, the last
like deck to do the thing that this

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deck did? I don't think so
well, just like I mean like the

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deck like this is. I can't
say what it is or we'll give away

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who we're trying to guess. When
you're trying to play the guessing games,

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you have to guess the commanders that
you can win stickers and tokens and maybe

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magic cards if you really hate winning. Yeah, I guess today though you

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got to guess the deck. You
got to guess the deck, and it's

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a very popular archetype that started it's
pretty long ago, like this arcat that

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has been around for a very long
time, and it has a Actually this

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deck, it's been a pretty good
reputation for having stuff in it in its

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colors. That is. Okay,
hold on, hold on, hold on

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hold. We're going to talk about
this deck, but we're not going to

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say the name of it. We're
not going to say the colors of it

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because that gives it, that'll give
some of it away. You gotta let

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us know what that deck is in
the comments below, like YouTube style,

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get on there if you're listening to
the audio version, because I'll do an

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audio version. You got to get
onto YouTube and let us know. Okay,

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so be victorious. You will win
if you play yeah and shout ut

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to YouTube members that actually do that
too, like who go on and like

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instead of Patreon, they pledge on
YouTube. Fantastic because that helps me,

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like condense all of the things I
gotta do and check in a week.

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It condenses it and that helps and
it helps keep the show going. So

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okay, this deck has been a
deck longer than it's had its name,

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right, because this deck existed before
it got its name, and it got

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its name in the set and block
that it it was a thing in Standard

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right oh yeah yeah, and one
one of us invented it. All that

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is pretty brash of locally. Oh, I was the first one to play

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it, and I didn't get it
off of the internet. Okay, So

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if you're a longtime CECO listener,
you know that's I have mentioned that.

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Okay, it's one of the few
times I've like stumbled into a deck that

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was like actually good by just like
mashing things together. It's pretty cool.

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I got one. I got one
in this deck. It was famous for

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value nah out valuing people. I
don't want to say much more. That'll

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do it, But I do have
another hint, but it's very obtuse.

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At the same time that this hint, wait a second, is hint At

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the same time that this deck was
like running amuck in Standard, I was

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playing like white Blue Enchantments with Sigil
of the Empty Throne as the finisher.

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How'd you do well? Not good? Yeah? No, not very well?

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Hey, not good? It was
the deck during the same time you

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were doing your thing with this deck. My deck name was Stabilize that too,

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Yes, that was bad. Yeah, that was bad. I I

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kind of went on a run after
that of just playing limited, oh man.

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But then it was into car Limited
and one of my favorite limited formats

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of all time. That's another that's
another hint you just gave. Oh yeah,

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yeah, after the thing that we're
talking about car Limited, big hint.

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Yes, yeah, hey, let's
talk about that for a minute.

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Let's not talk about the limited form
I have something that I'm going to bring

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up to you in publics that you
have no excuses. Oh Joyce think don't

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need a shower? No, no, you're your sweaty but cra just it

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just smells in here because it's the
damn basement underneath a fucking recording studio that's

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full of dudes. Man, That's
why it smells. Smell everybody's butt a

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once. Man. The point is
Amsterdam happened, yes, right, yes,

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and there's a pro tour there.
Yes, Nadu took it down.

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Okay, okay, oh yeah,
the bird guy bird is the word took

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it down? Okay? Was it
modern? Yes? Oh, I was

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gonna say, was it a commander
proto? Absolutely not, because we be

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on that obviously. Anyways, The
point is the deck has a callback to

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a previous deck called Cephalid Breakfast.
Ye, lots of people I assume have

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at least heard that term before and
soul cephalid breakfast uses cheerio things that cause

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zero, et cetera, et cetera. So people have been calling this deck

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fruit loops. That makes sense instead
of cheerios, because there was like fruity

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pebbles and their Cephalid Breakfast. There's
a whole bunch of breakfast named legacy decks,

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for example. Right so now,
now Nado, who looks exactly like

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too Can Sam, is the cornerstone
of the most powerful modern deck as of

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the recording of this episode. Okay, and they're calling the deck fruit loops

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and I have yet to see on
Thursday on our Facebook page, and to

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do with a two can Sam painted
on it. And I want to know

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why, So tell me Montel.
I have no excuse. I'm waiting to

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die. See Okay, there's no
reason for him not to do it,

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and he admitted it right here on
the internet. I expect expect to see

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it on Thursday on our Facebook page. I'm stupid, you are smart,

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thank you, I am ugly.
You are very attractive. That is correct.

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I have a tiny Wianer. Your
Wiener is like three popcns stacked on

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top of each other. Scientific facts. Huge producer Gary says, do you

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have aen to do? Actually?
The reason that I didn't, the reason

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I've never painted one on the Facebook
auctions yet, is because I get a

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lot of those cards just from people
at the lgs like, hey, paint

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this will be awesome. I get
some of them by ordering them at Fusion

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Gaming Online dot Com using Cocosa promo
code, and I crack some packs and

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I paint what I get. Yeah, that's why I don't always have all

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of the staples. Here's where we're
jerking the curtain back, as Gary calls

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it, to kind of the insider
kind of secrets. That's why I don't

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always have all the staples, right, she didn't open it to do.

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I did not open one, nor
did anybody want to just give me one,

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because I think it's like twenty dollars
or something. Is it pre pro

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tour like when I was ordering.
Yeah, they're not inexpensive, that's true.

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Yeah, So that's kind of why. Plus sometimes like when people come

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to try and get affordable alters,
because I do pride myself on being like

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the most affordable professional altruist on the
internet. Right, if you're not getting

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like bad ones on eBay, And
when the auction has to start like at

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a way higher dollar value, like
a fifty or sixty dollars starting bid because

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the card is from like Modern Horizons
three and it's an eighty dollars freakin' umag

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or whatever, then people are like
a little hesitant to start the bidding because

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like it's a way higher starting amount. Right, you could call the deckdut

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loops loops, Okay, yes,
And the only way you get to call

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it nadut loops is if you have
a two can sam na do? And

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since everybody else is sleeping on it, you boy ze here at CCO podcast,

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got you covered, is all I'm
saying. It's like six, I'm

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six z's in there. Oh yeah, Do you have a ND Of course

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I do. Can I have it
forgives for keep? No, damn it,

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of course I have a nad Okay, I'll get the nado from you,

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my dude out, pay some fruit
looves on it good and from when

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this is recorded and then when I
paint after I have them to do and

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then Thursday rolls around. I cannot
guarantee that it's this Thursday, but it

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might be next Thursday or the next
one from wherever the fuck the show comes

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out, because we're recording out of
a sequence, and I have no idea

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well, recording in sequence, just
on a way earlier day. And we

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were recording on a Tuesday before a
Tuesday at five a Tuesday night. Yeah,

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what is going on? Man?
It's so sweaty. It's like the

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first nice day that we've had,
like all summer. Yeah. Usually,

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and here's another curtain jerker for everybody
that's interested. Usually we record on Saturday

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mornings. Longtime nationalits will know that, and it's like cool, calm.

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Mostly we're hungover, but we're troopers, so you can't always tell unless we

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tell you. Yeah, and uh, breakfast beers from Pilo Bones Brewing cole

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Yeah, very important, very important
for us on those days. Yes,

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it's key to getting us up and
running. They have the best chocolate stout

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I think I've ever had. It's
delightfully and this is not me like advertising

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for them, because that's like kind
of our job, but they, uh,

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they got a good chocolate stuff,
and you got to pick it up

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now because you're not making it no
more so, I know, I know.

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Okay, So when we go to
Regina, that's why I bought a

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flat of it last time that was
down there, a flat flat. I

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bought like like one of those little
flat box ye. Yeah, like it's

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got like they got the tall cans
with four in it, right yeah,

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and there's like and there's six of
those twenty yeah, twenty four of them,

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yes, yeah, correct. So
when we go to CSO Experience in

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Regina in September, are they going
to have it? I sure hope something.

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You know what, I don't know
if I would get a stout in

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the afternoon after a bunch of sweaty
magic plan all day, I certainly would.

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I think i'd get like nice crisp, like prairie lagger, just like

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you could pound like fifteen of them. No, I want something that's so

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thick I can use it to oil
my engine. You're going to say,

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as yeah, I don't need that. No sweaty, Yeah, I'm sweaty.

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I'm sweaty enough already. I don't
need to loop it up. Geez.

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So, first day after the Assassin's
Creed episode launched, like the review

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right the not review Keel. No
weeks ago, our good friend Keil,

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the coolest guy to come out of
Regina, comes to me and says,

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hey, if you need me,
like if you want to have somebody on

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or talk or whatever about like Assassin's
Creed. He's like, I know everything.

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I love jerking off Iszi or whatever
his name is, right, good,

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good, callback, that is the
right name. Yeah, And that's

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that's what he told me. So
I said, well, we recorded one

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already, like our first look,
and I said, uh, if we

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need you, we'll let you know. So then we do the review.

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Didn't didn't talk to him at all. I just swept him under the rug.

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And then he messages me. He
says, yeah, you a bunch

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of idiots. Should have got in
touch because I could have helped you with

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this or this guy's name or this. I could have told you about the

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bird or whatever, right yeah.
And I was like, well, why

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I know about the bird. That's
the guy that I knew. And then

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he's like I'm five minutes in and
I'm like, these guys are idiots.

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These you guys don't know anything.
And I'm like, yep, I've been

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doing it for eight years gel.
Yeah, we're not gonna We're gonna stop

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there. So there might be something
coming up with Keilan the in the future

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maybe. Yeah. I talked to
him a little bit on Canada Day,

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which was chronologically yesterday. Yeah,
So was he calling you a dumb ass

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about Assassin's Creeping. No, he
actually sent me a video of Assassin's Creed

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three and order the name with the
colon in it. Oh yeah. Now

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I still don't know how to say
that word, but it means it's what

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it's It says, is Connor Connor. Too bad his name wasn't Colin because

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colon and colin. Yeah, but
he just sent me a couple of videos.

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We were chatting back and forth.
It's like, maybe that's something that

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we can do, Like we can
see if, like from a fan's perspective,

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how accurate or how pumped or how
many big beats did they hit,

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Like yeah, like you're a big
fan of Lord of the Rings for example,

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like they hit the fellowship, they
hit the big flaming eye, Like

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did they miss anything? Were the
characters that weren't there? You know,

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maybe that would be something interesting to
look at for future universes. Beyond that,

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you and I are not. Yeah, we got to get the nation

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involved. We'll put it out there
like on the discord or all message.

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Like I'll just do like a group
mass message out to like the patrons and

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put it on Facebook and put on
Twitter and be like, hey, check

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out these polls. Are we can
create a survey? Didn't you hear to

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work do that? And it was
like so super successful? Loll yes,

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and no, we can say that
even though we're in the damn network because

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we're not affiliated. That's right.
Producer Gary's like he's less affiliated with him

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than I am. Oh yeah,
yeah, I suppose they can't. Oh,

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but now we got them, and
now we're suckered him into the nation

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and when he'll never leave. Doesn't
he have us though? Like word in

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his digs? Now I guess.
So we're in the dungeons. Yeah,

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right, that's where the fucking basement. God damn it. Okay, I

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want to go back to Assassin's screed
just for one more second and talk about

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talk about Keel again, because he's
he's like chirping me like I should have

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got him or I should have known
or whatever. Okay, if he was

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offering to help, I'm going to
reverse this a little bit double flip it

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reverse like Missy Elliott style. What
Yeah? Sure? So if he was

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willing to help, he had to
have assumed that the guy with like the

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K G K Colin in his name, he had to have known that we

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were going to have trouble with that. Why wouldn't he be like preemptively telling

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us and wanting to help and like
recognizing where we might be tripping like hazard

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recognition? Right? Have you ever
seen workplace safety? Keel? Have you

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ever seen a kid fall just eat
shit? I've got a six year old

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boy. I've seen him do all
kinds of things that involve falling down,

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and you laugh at him all the
time, mostly every time. And you

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know why, It's because it's funny
when people fuck stuff up. Right,

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If you told somebody, oh,
watch that first step, as opposed to

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is watching somebody carrying a trayful of
dishes just eat shit and fall down the

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stairs, stars, is way more
funnier than like, I'll step over though.

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Okay, So imagine that we are
to keel like a waitress bringing an

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entire tray of beer is toss the
best thing ever? Yes? I don't

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know if I could go to that. Well, he loves the nation,

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He loves Commander Cookout. He looks
forward to it every weekend. He wants

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to see it be successful. It
brings him and his friend's enjoyment for hours

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and hours and years and years and
years. Imagine seeing us fall down,

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get hurt, try and get up, slip and wet beer, fall down,

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piece of a handle of a schooner
stabs me in the neck. Can

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you imagine what he must feel like, knowing that he could have prevented all

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of that that scenario, would just
say, that is the only thing that

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I want. I want that to
just be every YouTube video now it's just

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us eating shit and getting just falling, just mugs falling on us, mugs

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of beer falling into my mouth.
Oh but like in a good way to

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yeah, or the I don't even
care. Look at some points, you

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know, I'll just it's good beer
man, Just look it up off the

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floor, like I don't even care, you know what, when you're hurting.

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Just that's that's how we roll in
the nation, all right. I

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suppose, yeah, yeah, I
was gonna make a whole bunch of jokes

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about doing stuff on the floor of
places that you drink beer, but it

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was on the counter for me.
Yes, yeah, we're gonna leave it

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at that. We're gonna leave it
at that before we end up given the

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listener of an aerial disease. So
this is four it is. Guess the

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deck that we're doing. Yeah,
name of the deck, not the archetype,

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not the commander, but the deck. The name of the deck.

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And I think that we gave enough
hints. App I think it isn't the

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is it's not the archetype that you
don't have, just us the title of

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the deck. No, but yes, not the name of the deck that

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we're doing, but the name that
this but the name of the deck,

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like, just freaking guess it,
like they understand. They're they're, they're,

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they're they're Like Burne is the name
of a deck. Dark Depths is

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the name of a deck. Cheerios, like we discussed it, Sephalate breakfast.

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Yes, I like saying that,
saying that, Yes, yes,

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you guess the name. You'll get
entered to win. Leave it in the

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