WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:28.079 M hmm a. The dark days of December upon us. Here we are 2 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:31.760 in the dead of winter. Only the Giant bomb Cast is here to provide 3 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:34.799 you warmth. At this point, he is literally dark outside. Because we've 4 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:38.079 started this podcast, dark outside, dark outside days are getting shorter. It's 5 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:41.679 cold outside. Office chair up into the fire un once you're in the Southern 6 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:46.039 hemisphere, in which case, sorry, if there's a fire in your office, 7 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:49.640 you call this chair away. No, it's just the warming, the 8 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:54.520 warming glow of the bomb Cast. Do you ever listening to the Giant Bobcast. 9 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:57.880 I'm Brad Shuremaker. That's Alex Savarrow. There's true scandal. I'm here 10 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:00.359 Patrick, Hello, Dann record that. That is a hell of a beard 11 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:06.280 you've got going getting up there. That's fun. Impressed, seasonal nuts. 12 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.640 Laziness. It was like three weeks lazy. It is three weeks, yeah, 13 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:12.159 Jesus man, laziness is for all seasons. This is four months. 14 00:01:14.640 --> 00:01:19.079 Yeah. This is this. It doesn't get any time. It starts to 15 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:21.840 turn red if it gets too on good doing good, proper, proper, 16 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:23.879 like mountain man beard. I'll take it you have a trend to that at 17 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:29.200 all. I don't know the giant bombs crazily at fakey Caravella. Yeah, 18 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:34.439 still here, still here for days. That's the clock's sticking. It'll sound 19 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:38.200 too excited about it. I'm very excited about San Francisco. Yeah. Oh, 20 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:42.400 it's the city that sleeps. It's a great place, all right. 21 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:46.799 It's a possible to order food after ten pm anywhere. City that shuts down 22 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:51.159 at eight o'clock on a Sunday, that's for sure. Jeff Carson. I 23 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:53.079 had a moment literally on Sunday night where I was like eight o'clock and I 24 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:56.400 was like, get thinking about getting in bed, and I looked at clock. 25 00:01:56.599 --> 00:01:59.640 Oh it's eight. I should m we'll stopping you. I don't stay 26 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:01.319 for another half hour. Okay, yep, that's that's valid. Yeah. 27 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:04.959 I went to bed at nine thirty on Sunday night. It's great. That's 28 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:09.039 living great. Jason a Striker writing the iPad of steel. Here we go. 29 00:02:09.199 --> 00:02:12.840 I think it's fancy, isn't it nice? Like a full mixing board 30 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:15.960 on your iPad? There on a good show, some press of stuff. 31 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:22.120 Here we are. It is December. The video games are out. They 32 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:23.800 can they came out. The video games are out. The news is coming. 33 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:29.080 The news. However, it's hot off the presses, so apparently there 34 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:32.719 are more video games to come. Yeah, that's good name. I figured 35 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:38.360 that after this year. That really are we We fucked it up bad this 36 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.280 time government was going to step in. We've been visited by the ghosts of 37 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:45.919 Christmas, ghosts of video games. Future keep and it's a class action lawsuit 38 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:51.840 saying ship a fucking working game. Oh man, stuff happened over the weekend. 39 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:53.800 Few years from now. I'm gonna get like two bucks in the mail. 40 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:59.280 Yes, if you accidentally bought a Ubisoft game in two fourteen accidentally, 41 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:05.199 we're sorry. If you were someone you know, video game lawsuit money Tom 42 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:12.319 Slash Mesothelioma. Ubisoft games don't happen by accident. Okay, yeah, no, 43 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:14.599 you know what you're kidding. Yeah, they're very deliberate. They're very 44 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:16.800 deliberate. If you don't know what you're getting into at this point, you 45 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:21.879 have not been paying attention. A lot of stuff happened over the weekend. 46 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:27.319 Yeah, like a lot of news broke for a weekend in December. Yeah, 47 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:30.800 like a thousand percent more than you would usually expect. Is this like 48 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:36.560 the midnight on a Friday of news of months. No, I think, 49 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:39.800 well that's usually news you don't want. Yeah, they're like very Yeah, 50 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:43.560 it's not like they were trying to like slip this out with nobody noticing it. 51 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:46.439 Okay, all right, I didn't know. I don't know the nature 52 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:50.080 of the news, but it is highly atypical. Well Patrick does, Yeah, 53 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:54.479 maybe Patrick can help illuminate the situation for US newsman and Patrick k put 54 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:59.680 on your news cap Newsy Uh. I mean we had two like unprecedented like 55 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:02.400 events back to back, like like like the Video Game Awards and or the 56 00:04:02.439 --> 00:04:08.680 Game of the Game Awards, the Game Awards, the Chilies, which yeah, 57 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:11.759 that was you know, the the exception of the Nintendo stuff was fairly 58 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.840 low key but like little games and then the PlayStation keynote. The next morning, 59 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:17.519 Yeah, like completely forgot about till Vin and I woke up and I 60 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.399 was like, oh, there's news breaking. I'd suddenly flipped this laptop on 61 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:24.839 watched the second half of this we did. Why isn't this ending? Yeah? 62 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:27.920 Long, it went like two and a half hours long. I was 63 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:31.519 I was trying to do stuff that day. I had like stuff like scheduled, 64 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:33.360 like Okay, we're gonna get on the road and do this and this 65 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:36.079 and this, and then that thing went way longer and then so the whole 66 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:39.720 reason I was watching because I wanted to buy one of those stupid gray playstays. 67 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:42.040 And they didn't announce that, like they said, like, we're gonna 68 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:44.360 announce the you were I was part of our keynote, and then got down 69 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:46.360 there and said like, we're gonna announce it shortly after our like an hour 70 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.519 and a half after the end of the keynote, which already ran longer than 71 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:54.040 it was supposed to before they tweeted the link for that thing and then about 72 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:58.600 seconds before the website. There should be a law for if you were going 73 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.279 to sell something in a limit did capacity, or if you are going to 74 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:05.240 announce something that you were then going to take orders for that, like if 75 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:11.680 if basically if there is a case where a website is going to obviously go 76 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.920 down where you know, like you know going in like, oh, the 77 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:15.839 Sony store site's not gonna be able to handle the rush of people going after 78 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:19.319 however many like there's twelve thousand total, but who knows what the US allocation 79 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:24.079 was for these fucking PlayStations, Like there should be a law that if your 80 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:30.439 website crashes there, you owe everyone five dollars, like everybody who like everybody 81 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:31.759 that tried to get one. Yeah, just everybody in the United States. 82 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:35.639 If it logs your IP within a certain window, yeah bucks. Yeah, 83 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:43.040 Like fucking make that shit work that goes across the board. Like when Black 84 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:45.879 Friday rolled around, all the deals started happening on on a lot of other 85 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:47.439 little sites and stuff like that. There were plenty cases where it's like, 86 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:49.800 Oh, I got all this stuff in my cart, and then by the 87 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:53.560 time I got to check out it, the site broke, and then by 88 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:55.600 the time it came back up, everything was sold out. You know, 89 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.680 multiple occasions of this sort of stuff happening. Did that happened on Amazon? 90 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:00.759 Because Amazon always, to me, seems like the one Amazon is a rock 91 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:05.040 doesn't fuck around right, So it almost makes me wish they had sold these 92 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:08.959 ps fours through Amazon. That probably would have been a better experience. This 93 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:10.600 is one of those things where it's like, you know, everyone has a 94 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:13.759 shit experience. Everyone's like I was left in a lurch where I'm like I 95 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:15.920 had to hit the back button and submit multiple times just to get anything to 96 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:20.000 work. Am I going to suddenly be charged twenty thousand dollars for this sort 97 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:25.240 of stuff, And would you complain if it's like eight PS four showed up 98 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.399 given what they're selling for an eBay right now? No, I guess I 99 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.000 guess I would not. I don't think those prices are legit. They are 100 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.639 obviously going to go for a pretty penny. Yeah, they'll go for over 101 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:35.000 the five hundred. I don't think. I don't think those twenty thousand dollars 102 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:39.639 eBay auctions were fucking ridiculous. I thought it was fifteen. I mean those 103 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:43.600 went up, those auctions went up before this thing. Even those media number 104 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:47.639 ended up being something around eighteen hundred, which sounds but you know, I 105 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:49.600 wouldn't pay it, but I could see it. So what it ended up 106 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:53.439 happening? Did you ever make anything happen? No? No? What are 107 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:58.000 they Would they retail for four ninety five? Are people getting confirmations if they're 108 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:02.639 not? Yes? Yeah, I got a convert so I had about fifteen 109 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:06.439 browser tabs open. You've been down in this room two and a half fucking 110 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:13.199 hours refreshing every one of those tabs. Never got anything like how far did 111 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:15.959 you get? I got over to pay pal, so they let you check 112 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:19.079 out via PayPal or via their site. Via their site was a fucking those 113 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:23.079 job. The whole thing didn't work on pay Pal. I could at least 114 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:26.000 get out to PayPal, tell that how I wanted to pay, and then 115 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:28.480 when it went back to Sony, it would crash there. Okay, So 116 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:30.720 I put in a credit card number at one point. That was the furthest 117 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:33.000 I ever got. Yeah, like put in the number and hit submit, 118 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:36.199 and that was it. So whatever, you got to the page where if 119 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.240 they checked the credit card and say all right, you're good, now click 120 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:44.000 this to confirm the order. I never even saw that page. About twenty 121 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.160 minutes after I stopped refreshing all those tabs, I got an email receipt. 122 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:48.920 Oh so you got one, I don't know. So I got an email 123 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:54.079 receipt that came in, But again I never actually saw statement there's a pending 124 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:58.920 charge on there and you have one. But somebody called Sony support the next 125 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:03.319 day and said, yeah, we ever sold the console. We're canceling orders. 126 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:07.079 So so there's a very significant chance that we might be one of those. 127 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:09.000 I am fully expecting that order to get canceled because they sold more than 128 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:13.519 they were supposed to it was. It was an awful experience. Yeah, 129 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.120 and that's the sort of thing, like we're far enough along in buying shit 130 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:18.800 on the internet that like everyone can anticipate that this will be the case when 131 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:22.199 you do stuff like this. So the fact that it still happened, I 132 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:24.519 mean, obviously it's a hard problem, but I mean, Apple selling their 133 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.839 iPhone this year, there's like crashed when the crew orders happened. If Apple, 134 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.480 who you know, at this point should be the most well versed in 135 00:08:31.559 --> 00:08:35.519 selling annualized, like it needs to be better, Like they need at least 136 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.720 need to be like make the appearance that they're they're heading in the right direction 137 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:41.759 on this. You want to know. The kind of fucked up, dirty 138 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:43.440 thing about all that, though, is there's there's a part of those companies 139 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:46.799 that really likes it when that shit happens, because, you know what, 140 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.000 they're still selling those units regardless, and may get to say, we crashed 141 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.039 our site. So many people wanted these things. They didn't They obviously did 142 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:56.120 not do this to make money. It's just for publicity. Yeah, but 143 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:03.200 uh, do you ever feel like you're your information is more compromised when that 144 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:07.360 stuff happens, Like when your credit card is now floating around in some nebulous 145 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.960 not that place you know, you're secure connection whatever. I think it's when 146 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:15.679 I have to submit it. Like, here's something fucking crazy I got. 147 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:20.759 I got a phishing email from from Netflix a week or two ago, made 148 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.200 air quotes like it was you know, you mouse over one of the links 149 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.840 and you can tell it was clearly not Netflix, although the email looked full 150 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:31.559 on right there. But it was like, we've detected a discrepancy with your 151 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:35.320 credit card. We need you to log in and fix the details. And 152 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:41.440 then they listed out my like accurate expiration date and last four digits and I 153 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:45.600 was like, oh, that's and you you verified that that was settling yours 154 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:46.840 and the I mean, yeah, I know my credit card no, wow, 155 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.279 yeah, so that is on settling. I hope they don't have the 156 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:52.440 whole thing. I mean, you can find a receipt on the street that 157 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:54.440 hasn't feel like that. But it wasn't your full credit car. It was 158 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.240 like it was a bunch of exes and the last four digits and the expiration 159 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:05.080 date. So that was fucking creepy. But but yeah, this, yeah, 160 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.440 the PS four thing really sucked ass Uh. The weirdest part is I'm 161 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:09.720 not even sure why I bought that thing because I have no use for it. 162 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:11.879 So yeah, that was the thing. I mean, you should talk 163 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:15.240 if that thing actually shows up. Yeah, yeah, because I don't. 164 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:16.799 I don't have let's use for it. I'm going to build out a second 165 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.919 room as an office. The only reason I wanted another PlayStation was because I'm 166 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.519 I'm going to be a two PlayStation household. Anyway, if you had bought 167 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:30.720 one, would you open it? Yeah? Really? Huh hmm hmmm A 168 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:35.480 lip it good? All right, you wouldn't open it. I don't know. 169 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:39.639 Well, I don't need it. I'll probably you would just hold on 170 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:41.759 to it for ten years. I don't know what am I gonna do with 171 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:43.919 it? Put in the closet? Yeah, good point. I literally have 172 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:46.720 nowhere to put another second. I just wanted to see if I could get 173 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.679 one of these because it was gonna be so crazy anyway, just for the 174 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:54.480 sport of it. But then Jordan, but then I couldn't someone else can't 175 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:56.320 have it, But then I couldn't let it go. So like just like 176 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:00.639 you, I sat from ten am until this. It was almost four pm 177 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:03.480 by the time the saga concluded for me, Wow, six hour gave up. 178 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:07.080 Well before that, like six hours in front of the computer trying to 179 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:09.679 get one of these things. Uh yeah, no, I gave up terrible, 180 00:11:11.240 --> 00:11:13.240 I gave up. Well, what shall we talk about first? Uh, 181 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:18.039 well, let's backpedal twelve sixteen hours or so from there to the Game 182 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:22.559 Awards. It's good sleeping dogs which happened. Yeah, that logo was real 183 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:28.480 sleeping dogs looking. But yeah, this is Jeff Keeley's production. Yeah, 184 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:31.240 kind of continuing on from the let's see the last year it was the vg 185 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:37.080 X yeah right, yes, and previously it has been the vga's, the 186 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:41.440 Spike TV VGAS. This was the second online only one, right, that's 187 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:45.879 because x SO this is its own thing. The vgx's were still affiliated with 188 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:50.519 Viacom and all this other stuff like this is Keiley out doing, yeah Keiley 189 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:56.000 stuff. The TNN Game Awards, Yeah, yes, the National Network. 190 00:11:56.159 --> 00:12:00.720 Yes. Do you have a list there for how many more they actually gave 191 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.480 out? I don't have a list. We did watch it here, yeah, 192 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:05.000 drunkenly, So I watched half. It seemed half remember it. It 193 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:09.679 seems like a few It was like maybe four televised Awards or something I think, 194 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:11.240 and then a couple of just well, it seemed like four like come 195 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:15.120 up on stage, open the card, and then a couple of like I 196 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:18.279 by the way, yeah, I feel like I technical oscars. I feel 197 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.159 like I voted for about fifteen categories something like that. Yeah, I mean, 198 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.360 you know they were listening on the website. There were It was a 199 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:26.320 significant number of categories. I was in a car for most of that show. 200 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:30.519 You were in a roller coaster on that show? Yeah? Really? 201 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:33.919 That was the clip they pulled for the trending game category was you and Dan 202 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:39.279 on the roller coaster ups and downs too? True? So I watched up 203 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.559 to the Battlefield Hardline segment before Dan and I checked out for hood Slam. 204 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:48.519 My impression of that show was that, in terms of general respectability and just 205 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.639 kind of like respectfulness of video games, that seemed pretty far and away beyond 206 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:58.399 what they had been doing with the Spike partnership. The sheer volume of commercials 207 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:03.360 and I am not just talking about like the exclusives that Keiley had locked up 208 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.200 for you know, presenting it the thing, but just like the number of 209 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:11.960 games that are already out being advertised on this thing was a little much. 210 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:15.080 It was. It had a time with something though because there was no real 211 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.960 life didn't because it had to be some money back because TV. Yeah, 212 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:20.080 No, I know that, and I know that they had to make money 213 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.000 and they have to change the set like they have to. I mean, 214 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:26.120 there were things that have to happen, right at least compared to the amount 215 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:31.399 of actual awards show content they presented in the court, like in concert. 216 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:35.279 With the sheer number of announcements that were going on at that show, that 217 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:37.679 thing might as well have been any three press conference. Yes, it was 218 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:43.240 very much. It felt like two to one World Premiers and commercials two awards. 219 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.399 Yeah, it's also guys playing Tetris music on lasers. There was that 220 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:54.159 that happened, that shitty band that did the Hardline theme. No, that 221 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.159 was at the end with Koji Kondo oh okay who it was kind of okay, 222 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:00.679 yeah, I oh, I hated that. No. I think in 223 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.120 terms of like you have, like you're gonna have stuff like imagine Dragons for 224 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:07.320 like appeal and like demographic stuff and whatever you think about Imagine Dragons. They're 225 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.759 a popular fucking band and you for the audience like us like saying Coachy Condo 226 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:16.000 come out, do you know a little medley and then have the class to 227 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:18.919 stick around and play piano over their bit. I thought, in terms of 228 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.720 what you have to do to make an award show like this work, Coachy 229 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.440 Condo playing piano with Imagine Dragons was pretty fucking cool. Yeah, yeah, 230 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:28.559 I think that's an interesting moment, you know, And it's it's you know, 231 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:31.960 you don't necessarily think about Coachy Condo, you don't necessarily think about the 232 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:37.480 musicians of that era playing like quote unquote real music alongside musicians and stuff like 233 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.679 that. So I think it was an interesting pairing. I fucking could give 234 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:46.679 a fuck about amagic, right, but diastically and like the like, I 235 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.080 think that's an interesting approach. And also those guys, you know, again, 236 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.399 whatever you think of them, like when he came the lead singer, 237 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:54.519 his name, I have no idea what it is, but he seemed to 238 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:56.919 give a shit about being there, like they cared about Zelda. Like that 239 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:01.639 pairing was not It seems like they were having is much fun part and it's 240 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:03.080 like, you know what, it's got to be commercial that meets like, 241 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.879 you know, quote unquote artistry, and it's I feel like Keely achieved a 242 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:11.679 much better balance of that stuff. Their set was them on stools playing an 243 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:15.240 acoustic set of Zelda music and yeah, so that by the time I got 244 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:18.000 home and remember, like those things are still going, Like I turned it 245 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:18.840 on just in time to catch that, Like that was all right, but 246 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:22.080 the part was okay. And this thing, I'm not I'm not saying that 247 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.679 I don't like the idea of musical acts being on there at all or anything. 248 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:26.799 It's just that that particular band really really rubbed me the wrong way. 249 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:33.559 Imagine Dragonde want to be. Yeah, it sounded it was just real bad. 250 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:37.039 I mean honestly, like that, you know, anything attached to hard 251 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:39.519 line at this point, which it sounds like that that whole segment was just 252 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:45.480 as tone deaf as it could be given the current climate for police in around 253 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:50.200 around these days, the idea of like putting out your fucking rule breaking cops 254 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:54.840 break the rules or whatever. Yeah, like come on, no, no, 255 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:58.039 no, Like they had to know they were walking into some fucking shit, 256 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.320 right, Yeah, but that's I mean, I don't know, hardline 257 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:07.399 I think is like getting a justified but also bum fucking rap for that stuff. 258 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:12.200 Considering that as a society. We have celebrated the fucking badass cop in 259 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:17.919 culture for decades. Absolutely, it's it's the timing, just absolutely. And 260 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:21.720 also that game doesn't necessarily look great, right, so it doesn't help. 261 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:25.080 But there's that like it looks ham fisted. And then also the climate is 262 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:30.200 completely toxic to or that game is completely toxic given the current climate, and 263 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:33.519 yeah, this the whole thing that adds up to just a disaster. Yeah, 264 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:36.600 the timing with the events of last week and then this awards show capping 265 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:38.600 the week was not good. Like ships what end of March. Yeah, 266 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.399 that's right, I mean, you know, like on the one hand, 267 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.720 you imagine the DA committed to filling that spot like weeks or months ago, 268 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.919 But on the other hand, you could appeal to good taste and think about 269 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.279 pulling it at the last minute. I don't know, Yeah, that's they 270 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.279 put something else together in that time. How you're gonna get another band, 271 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:57.360 another game, like you know, there's all sorts of stuff. That's yeah, 272 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.200 but regardless, like, yeah, that whole thing seems you know, 273 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:04.440 it's not like they had to fill a certain time either. You know, 274 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:08.279 this was not TV. That's true. So for my money, yes, 275 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:14.200 the best part of this entire thing, The absolute best was seeing Kennon ROBERTA. 276 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:18.079 Williams live in the Flesh on a stage in twenty fourteen, because as 277 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:22.000 far as I was concerned, they fell off the earth in like nineteen ninety 278 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:26.359 six or whatever it was a minute after whatever. King's Quest ten seven, 279 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:29.160 I think it was the last one she made, but I mean she maybe 280 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:30.279 she was kind of involved a three D one, right, Oh, I'm 281 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.920 pretty sure they were gone. I mean they sold to Vivendi and then pieced. 282 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:37.000 I thought she consulted or something. Maybe. I'm pretty sure they bailed 283 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:41.160 as soon, but Origin still made it. Right, what's that King's Quest 284 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:47.400 ten Sierra? Yeah, whatever, I'm not exactly sure what the timeline was, 285 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:51.400 but the only thing that was worried about that bit was like the way 286 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:53.559 they set it up was that's like Sierra is still going and always has been. 287 00:17:53.640 --> 00:18:00.960 Yeah, that was Sierra got bought and became a labeled basically, you 288 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:03.400 know, I mean, granted that was also they kind of coincided with the 289 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.200 death of adventure games the first time, so it basically just became a publishing 290 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:10.160 label to put out like Half Life and stuff like that, and then they 291 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:11.920 retired the name after a while, so yeah, it's just now come back 292 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:19.640 in the last couple of months for game. But oh wait, really the 293 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:23.000 get wow, I didn't know that it's just Active, It's just Activision. 294 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.880 They couldn't keep using the Activision value name because everyone got the message that that 295 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:32.119 means garbage. Ye. I always like the Sierra logo. Yeah, I 296 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:36.160 did too. I was thinking of King's Quest, mask Eternity, masked aternity. 297 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:38.160 Yeah, it was the last one. That's the last one thing she 298 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:41.599 did she did. Yeah, really, I thought, you know, they 299 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:45.839 maybe they hung around for like a year or something after they sold for a 300 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:51.279 lot of money. Uh, I did fucking money there. I mean the 301 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:56.759 story I heard was that they basically bought a yacht and said later I never 302 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:00.160 looked back. It's awesome. So to see them back, and you know, 303 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:03.200 they're in their sixties now. She did have some weird line when she 304 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:06.200 came on and was like, you know, I'm sorry I don't have a 305 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.480 game to present. Yeah, I don't know, are you. I didn't 306 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:12.359 get the sense that there's any remorse. So the odd gentleman making the new 307 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:15.400 King's Quest game like a month or so back, had posted a blog update 308 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:18.839 where they had met them and kind of showing them the concept art and some 309 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:23.480 footage and stuff and like basically, we're seeking their blessing. And they reprinted 310 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.400 the email that she sent them afterward, and nothing about that sounded like she 311 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:30.319 had any desire to be making games again, very much like passing the torch. 312 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.680 And it also kind of felt like she was just sort of showing up, 313 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.440 being like, yep, I did make those video games. Yeah see, 314 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.039 I mean what was it? It was like an icon or a lifetime 315 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:41.839 achievement or something like that. Was it was? You know, it was 316 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:45.160 a it was awesome. It was a nice moment. I mean, like 317 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.079 those games I think are more siminal than some people give them credit for. 318 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:52.319 Yeah. Like, like Ron Gilbert was out there on Twitter after that segment 319 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:55.000 aired saying like, yeah, without King's Quest, we never would have made 320 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:59.759 a Maniac Mansion and stuff like that. And she definitely does not make public 321 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.880 apearances. Oh that's what That's what I'm saying. Nobody's like like the last 322 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:04.160 interview they gave was in like two thousand and one or something like that. 323 00:20:04.319 --> 00:20:07.960 She also looks exactly the same. Yeah, I want to say I don't 324 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:11.519 know if it was new interviews or not, but they were at least quoted 325 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:18.039 extensively in Harold Goldberg's book that came out a few years ago, over Arching 326 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:19.920 history stuff. Okay, so they haven't been totally absent from scene, but 327 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:25.799 pretty much kind of hidden in the footage of the show. Looked good of 328 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:27.119 the new game, Yeah, like, yeah, well you want to just 329 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.799 you want to just run down all the stuff it was announced. It was 330 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.599 announced at this thing. Yeah, all right, if you want to, 331 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:38.920 I guess. Okay, a lot of things with the words world exclusive attached 332 00:20:40.039 --> 00:20:47.559 to things EXCLO. Well, yeah, it's like a new trailer for you 333 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:49.279 know, like Dying Dying Light and stuff like that. Games that are almost 334 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:53.559 out but still video you hadn't seen before. Top of the show. The 335 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:57.599 first big announcement was a new game from Fulbright. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 336 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:02.839 makers have gone home or now making a game called Tacoma Tacoma. Yes 337 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:07.279 Space at least called it before the reviews like this one's space, this one's 338 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:10.839 space, yes, and then yeah, oh did you because yeah totally here 339 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:15.240 in some little pod or something at the beginning, and yeah, I didn't 340 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:18.000 really say much about it. It's like thirty seconds of footage and it comes 341 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:19.599 out in twenty sixteen, so it's like a year and a half away. 342 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:26.680 Uh, you're walking around a space station or maybe a moon base. Female 343 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:29.640 main character they I believe, I believe it is a it is a moon. 344 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:33.200 Okay. It referred to it as like lunar transit station Tacoma or something 345 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:33.799 like. Yeah, I had a little bit of it. There was no 346 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.359 gravity vibe. You walked in a little bit of a like Columbia. Then 347 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:40.920 oh yeah, yeah, I have a BioShock. You look to it like 348 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:44.039 a lot of gold. Art deco is not quite Art Deco, but yeah, 349 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:47.200 kind of a regal looking almost like a hotel lobby or something like. 350 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:51.200 Things were falling around and yeah, suggesting that you've whatever wherever it's place is 351 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.400 after maybe some sort of disaster. Maybe yeah, it was like nobody there. 352 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:57.880 Yeah maybe altho. I don't know how it wouldn't be there. There'd 353 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:02.720 be some gravity on the moon. I wonder if they'll I'm gonna have to 354 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:04.480 get them on the phone. I wonder if they'll do the same thing again, 355 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:10.039 where it's just you come into a place that is empty and then piece 356 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:11.960 together what happened, Like, I wonder if they'll stick with that sort of 357 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:17.079 motif of you know, there are no MPCs that you're actually going to the 358 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:18.480 counter. There are characters, but they are revealed in ways that are not 359 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:26.559 This one is actually an arena based for multiplayer focus. It was Tacoma. 360 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:29.440 Yeah, but it sounded like it was over with the radio right. Not 361 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:32.119 to put too fine a point on it, but that's an effective way to 362 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:33.640 tell a story if your budget is fairly small. Sure, yeah, I 363 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.640 don't have to animate a bunch of characters and stuff. Yeah, I mean 364 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:37.799 I think it was a success, but you know, not you know, 365 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:41.799 tended millions of dollars or anything. That little bit they showed that world looked 366 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:45.599 nice. Yeah, totally. I mean I'll play whatever they're gonna put out 367 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:49.160 now. More generally, I'll play an infinite number of empty space station walking 368 00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:55.200 around exploring games. Yeah, sure, curious to see what would you wish 369 00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:57.359 for? There's a lot coming up. Yeah they were really two on that 370 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:00.759 show, wasn't there there was another one? Well, might as well jump 371 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:07.039 right to a d sorry oh a drift, Oh with a one in there 372 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:11.599 just because it's the first one. Okay, got it got it, That 373 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:14.759 makes sense, didn't you Patrick? Didn't you play a Drift at E three? 374 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:19.119 Yeah? Yeah, Adam who people may commonly know as the deal with 375 00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:23.920 It guy from the Xbox One reveal, but yeah, he kind of exited 376 00:23:23.960 --> 00:23:27.240 the company after that. And then at E three, Yeah, we went 377 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:30.559 and saw a Drift, which is not a VR exclusive game, but it 378 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:34.200 is certainly being pitched as like you know, best on VR, and it's 379 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:38.759 it's basically gravity. The game is kind of my understanding. Now you're alone 380 00:23:38.839 --> 00:23:42.720 in a space station after it has been ripped apart, and then you have 381 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:48.680 to try and I don't know, they haven't damaged. Yeah, they haven't. 382 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:51.839 Haven't shown like what the mechanics are they have if there are mechanics, 383 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:55.519 they haven't shown what it is beyond just floating through space. It looks gorgeous, 384 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.680 and I think it did. Yeah, I mean that stuff looks you 385 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.880 know, exploring spaces is by you know, at least in the early days 386 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:04.759 of VR, like what it is really good at. It's like putting you 387 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:10.279 in a place. So the idea of floating in space in VR sounds sounds 388 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:14.279 pretty interesting. Yeah, but you know what it is beyond that? I 389 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:17.519 don't know, it looks pretty. I was. I was kind of impressed 390 00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:21.480 that those are both like a kind of understated teasers. You know, like 391 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:23.680 it's not on TV anymore. You don't need shit blowing up every ten seconds 392 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.599 in your material. It drift was a little long without a little bit they 393 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:29.880 could have tightened it up, like I sudden, you know, the the 394 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.160 tension they were going for, like going after the oxygen thing, it could 395 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:36.960 have been about half as long. Sure, but there is such a thing 396 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:41.279 as too understated a teaser. I think it was also shown on that show 397 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.160 whatever, that ea indie thing was the student light thing? Yeah, yeah, 398 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:51.119 yeah, the people in the train. Yeah, I guess it's being 399 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:53.440 made ins at Dice. No, I don't think it hasn't. So he 400 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.480 like Joseph something his name, but yes, the guy who made Brothers. 401 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:03.000 Uh, he's founded a student now so it hats like the studio. Yeah. 402 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:06.279 Yes. It also might be the name of the game, the game. 403 00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:08.519 I don't I don't know if that or they may have just actually not 404 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.079 said the name of the game yet and this might just be the name of 405 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:15.720 the studio. But yeah, they they ran a video they had like Patrick 406 00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:21.200 Sutter and talking about it at you know, like he's investing in the studio. 407 00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:25.559 Okay, it's kind of interesting since they don't like officially have the Partner's 408 00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:29.519 program anymore. Yeah, what is the apparatus that they're going through to do 409 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.599 that? Right? Well, I mean it seems like I don't know if 410 00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.799 this is an EA owned studio or what the Yeah email probably email changed. 411 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:40.359 It says, uh, they got a pager e a blog. Yeah, 412 00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:42.440 that studio is called hates Light and this is their first game, So I 413 00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:45.359 guess I guess it's possible they end up being called the same thing. But 414 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.799 it seems like it also, which wouldn't be a surprised the game is about 415 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.519 Hobo's. I mean, I'm super on board with whatever that guy wants to 416 00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:55.519 do next. I just I felt like that teaser was like the most nothing 417 00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:57.920 teaser. Well it's it's a teaser. It's I mean, it's even for 418 00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:02.599 a teaser. It was thing. It's a teaser. First studio. Yeah, 419 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:04.960 it's a it was. It was a classic Uh you know in the 420 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:11.200 EA now the now EA template of we're gonna show you nothing but say some 421 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.240 stuff like they did through all three E three. We're gonna show you footage 422 00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:18.920 of people working at keyboards, Yeah, making with that. Yeah, there's 423 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.079 that one shot of the two guys like riding the rails. Yeah, like 424 00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.880 like jumping on it in the train car he slows zoom out, So who 425 00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:29.640 knows what that is? I think the moon to them And that's it. 426 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:33.680 Mean that run the game hopefully, I mean if so great is a throw 427 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:37.079 mama from the train level though, that's really gonna blow your mind. Yeah, 428 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:40.160 I'm like a lot of you. I will check out whatever that guy 429 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:44.880 makes next. What the hell is metal Gear Online? I missed that? 430 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:45.599 Do you think it is? I mean, I know what it is. 431 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:49.960 It's it's the online fucking multiplayer mode the Metal Gear game that no one actually 432 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.440 wants. Sure gets into these because yeah, no, I'm about as big 433 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:56.119 of metal Gear fans have to come. And I played a little bit of 434 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.279 Subsistence when it first came out, and a little bit of Metal Seas in 435 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:04.680 spite of its mechanics like stripping away the dumb fucking story and all this other 436 00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:08.680 chaos to say like we're gonna have you shoot an other human players like it 437 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:12.480 just breaks the whole thing even more. It's all terrible. I will I 438 00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:18.200 will say Ground Zero's played well enough that I could almost see a multiplayer mode 439 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:21.480 being Okay, I'm not saying I'm gonna want to pray it's not what I 440 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:23.839 went out of that series. I want to shoot people. Right, you're 441 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:26.880 right, But I mean there was a time like maybe like when online play 442 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:30.359 was first becoming a thing between like two and three, like, oh god, 443 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:32.960 what would metal gear be like online? And then you see what it's 444 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:34.599 like. It's like, that's okay, I'll see that other series. Did 445 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:37.160 you guys see the video? Is there anything? Yea interesting in the he 446 00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:41.920 takes a selfie with Aweslot. Yeah at the end, did see that part? 447 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:45.799 Yeah, there's cardboard boxes. Uh huh, Okay, you can teleport, 448 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.920 which the part where like he dropped, he dropped in a attached like 449 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:52.799 a parachute recovery system thing, the parachute thing. Yeah, so you can 450 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.200 take people off the battlefield or whatever. That's of use that in multiplayer yeah 451 00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.799 yeah, yeah, so they had that in a peace Walker and portable apps 452 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.359 for a little mix. Yeah, a little tiny Metal Year things, a 453 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.759 little by pedal Metal Years platform that you could jump on and and uses a 454 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.599 vehicle basically okaya, Oh there were some of the two two two legs, 455 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.880 the like yeah cal mooing goes in there, yeah yeah, right, sure, 456 00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:21.559 yeah yeah whatever, Yep, that's the appropriate response you have. You 457 00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:23.839 have Jima at your awards show, so might as well, I guess keeper. 458 00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:27.839 Yeah, like it wasn't That made the point on Friday about like key 459 00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:32.279 for introducing, right, not the other way. It's it's the sort of 460 00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:33.400 thing that you look at and go like, Okay, this thing you know 461 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.799 is caring about video games, because yeah, it's key for introducing Kajima, 462 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.160 not Jima introducing And see what he will about key for Sutherland he if if 463 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:45.920 he didn't, it was as as mercenary as he has somewhat been made out 464 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.400 to be as far as working on that game, he at least sold it 465 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.359 well. He at least seemed enthusiastic. It's very genuine. Went off script. 466 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:53.799 Man, he's a pro. I don't need these teleprompters. But the 467 00:28:55.079 --> 00:29:00.160 thing about his his yeah, no teleprompter. I think about his stories was 468 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.279 he kept saying like, you got this friend that I'm I won't name this 469 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:07.960 friend, you know actor, you know, talk to this other guy I'm 470 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:10.720 not gonna name him either, because nobody wants to be fucking associated with this 471 00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:12.519 ship. It was like the feeling I got it like, I'm not gonna 472 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.480 name anybody here because I'm not gonna rad him out. Yeah, well you 473 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.920 know, on't you just say their name and or not tell the story? 474 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.799 Then? Yeah, don't keep yourself want to get blacklisted? Man? I 475 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:27.839 guess, and then I tuned out. I can't remember what he said technology. 476 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:32.440 He said video games and push technology forward like much faster than the film 477 00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.880 industry. I think, okay, that's fair. I kept I kept hoping 478 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:42.559 he would say something about Mortal Kombata that he gave a very definitive answer on 479 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:47.880 that topic. Did he he said Keeper's not in it right, He's hell? 480 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:49.640 Is Keeper getting that from? Then? I don't know. Maybe he 481 00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:52.720 thought he was he had a deal in place for something, and so did 482 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:57.920 he actually say yeah? He There was some implication some time ago that he's 483 00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.640 gone on Twitter like Ed and has gone on Twitter since then, and also 484 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:04.279 reiterated like, no, there is no key for Sutherland, and Ed Bond 485 00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:07.079 said this says a lot of things on Twitter, So I'm not I don't 486 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.559 know if I put a whole lot of stock in this was this moon lying. 487 00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.839 This was all the way back in February that key for Sutherland was talking 488 00:30:14.920 --> 00:30:17.680 like he had something to do with a new Mortal Kombat. Keep in mind 489 00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:19.599 that it might not be this Mortal Kombat game, and then it may actually 490 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.640 be somewhere in secret production on a shallond Monk style game. Oh it was 491 00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.519 an In an interview to IGN, he said, I did Mortal Kombat and 492 00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.559 that's such a huge game. But it's but it's so not like MGS five, 493 00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:32.799 right, So I guess it wasn't quote from him. Yeah, I 494 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.359 don't know, so I guess, yeah, I'm guessing maybe maybe both could 495 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.279 be right. Maybe you're right that it's it is right, because you know, 496 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:42.359 that was the question at E three is key for Sutherland in this game? 497 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:48.039 He said, no, so there's two Mortal Kombat games coming up at 498 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.279 that point, I would take another shaland Monks. Yes, yes, totally 499 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:53.440 was good. So at some point, like you know, it seems like 500 00:30:53.480 --> 00:31:00.000 everyone everyone there wants to revisit like the action adventure template for a Mortal Kombat 501 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:04.119 at some point, so it would make sense at some point to Syrax and 502 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:08.039 Sector instead of Luke Kangen Kung Now Noah, probably. I mean I when 503 00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:11.799 I think about Keifer Sutherland voicing a character, it's it's just Striker. It's 504 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:17.759 this is a striker game, mortal mythology. Striker. Yeah. Talk about 505 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:21.960 glorifying cops, yeah, or you know, I mean, but actually I 506 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.119 could see like them going and making Johnny Cage key for something. It's got 507 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.519 to be sure, yeah, keeper like the gun of the one that fits, 508 00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.519 but not like cocky, arrogant. He's like I was just a real 509 00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:36.519 grounded guy like black is not like whatever. Man, I look for a 510 00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:38.839 smart amount of Johnny Cage. Yeah, exactly. Think like I think if 511 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.880 you go from the movies, like Keifer could voice because who was riding in 512 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:48.000 the movies, Christopher lamberts for Sophie. If you take Christopher Lambert as kind 513 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:53.279 in riding, yeah, like he could voice riding in something totally oh doing 514 00:31:53.319 --> 00:32:01.079 doing a Lambert doing a Lambert. You never go for Raden also Lambert, 515 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:06.559 yeah, yeah, or he could just do be doing riding. Who's going 516 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.079 to be more right? All right? Just stick it with the metal gear 517 00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:16.960 stuff. Flipping the script again, we got Robert Bolling came out and finally 518 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:22.759 showed that Human Element game they've been working on kind of yeah, and by 519 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:27.880 showed, I mean had a CG trailer. Was this CG It looked like 520 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.839 it might have just been highly stylized, really because at the end they were 521 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.319 like, oh, get look forward to like beta access. I thought maybe 522 00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.279 that might have Actually that whole thing looked a little too like flamboyant to be 523 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.920 a game maybe, but it seems to be some kind of post apocalyptic zombie 524 00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.519 shooter. It always was a zombie thing, did they always say that? 525 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:49.079 Yeah, okay, yeah, so it's like one of the things like right 526 00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.440 out of the gate like it. Because that ended up being like technically it 527 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:55.920 was the first uh it was the dark sector of this generation. It was 528 00:32:55.960 --> 00:33:01.160 the first announced right next general ration game. Yes, because they were out 529 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.920 there early talking about like it'll be like twenty sixteen. You're like, that's 530 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:08.160 we'll all be dead by then. That's not real putting out a prequel in 531 00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.240 the uh yeah, yeah, because that was trendy at the time. Yeah, 532 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:13.880 because that's a good way to like get people excited to we just make 533 00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:16.359 a lot of money I Kickstarter. Let's say that we're doing that. That's 534 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:21.039 a weird studio. That game has had a weird history so far. I 535 00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:24.599 don't know if that trailer convinced me. I just in it. Yeah, 536 00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:30.680 I mean I think that, you know, the the zombie Shooter is one 537 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:35.200 of the most creatively bankrupt concepts in video games going today. So the thought 538 00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:39.119 of like one of those still yet to come, Like, nay, wish 539 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:42.920 all the luck one if you're lucky. Yeah, uh, you know, 540 00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.599 wish m all the luck. They put together something unique. But yeah, 541 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.000 I don't know. I think I don't know. I think zombies can be 542 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.000 generic enough that it's it can be like a canvas for something. Yeah, 543 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.279 it just seems like a short cut for Jeff, it's about the human ement. 544 00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.920 It seems like a short cut for all these enemies are gonna run directly 545 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.240 at you, stumble directly out of At least what they're showing is that you'll 546 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:05.960 be fighting a lot of humans, right, Like the zombie Apocalypse is a 547 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:09.880 backdrop for like fighting raiders and humans. Is that the general Just yeah, 548 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:13.119 it seemed like you you were fighting human humans. And at the end, 549 00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.440 because I remember jan trailer, I kept going like I thought this was a 550 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:20.440 zombie game. Then there was a you know, the zombie turns or whatever 551 00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.519 the human turns at the end. I don't Yeah, it was underwhelming, 552 00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.639 we'll see. Yeah, that trailer did not blow in my mind necessarily. 553 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:30.800 And then I think the only other thing that came out of that show that 554 00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:36.599 we've never seen before was King's Quest. How that look it looks? Maybe 555 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:38.480 it's good. Yeah, I don't know how it's going to control or is 556 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.480 it direct? Looked like it was going to be direct control, like a 557 00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:46.000 stick from what I could tell, assume if they're gonna make it mass appeal, 558 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.559 they gotta put Yeah, I mean that's just sounds cost how games control 559 00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:57.119 these days, right, But there was no combat like well, it was 560 00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.679 like a montage. Yeah, but it looked very much like it Vicher Games 561 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:05.039 scenarios. You know. The pr said it was gonna be you know, 562 00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.880 like heavily inspired by events from so it seems like they might have been kind 563 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:12.280 of like a highlight reel of like your bits from the King's Quest games. 564 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.639 It looked, yeah, just one it would be like No, I mean, 565 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.760 it very much does seem like one from what I can tell, I've 566 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:20.960 actually never played all the way through one, but you know, kind of 567 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.480 read up on it, and some people were commenting on our trailer and stuff, 568 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.280 and like, yeah, there are specific moments from one in that trailer, 569 00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.760 like the dragon and finding the magic Mirror and stuff like that. I 570 00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.039 never liked the King's Quest stuff, so I'm real excited if there's a remake 571 00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:36.039 of It's so weird. Like growing up all I only knew people who played 572 00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:37.719 Sierra Adventure games, and then like getting into the industry, it's like all 573 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:40.360 Lucas arts all the time. Yeah, I like one person that played the 574 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.000 Sierra stuff, and and he was weird. I just played I played space 575 00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.320 Quests, that King's Quest. Yeah, I played Space Quest. I mean 576 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.000 you know it was basically kings Quest, Space Quest and these quests. Yeah. 577 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:53.280 I never tried to play Lary because it's I heard it was sexy. 578 00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:57.519 I bought one of the leisure Zo Lay games. I forget. I think 579 00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:02.760 it's six. It's the one that took places in a ship. I think 580 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.079 of some good pun. I feel like that's the only one one I played 581 00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.400 was in like a resort, like a coastal resort or something anyway, so 582 00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:15.800 it was it was yeah, like sorry is this the Awards show or is 583 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:19.679 this the show We're getting infused where Tim Shaffer came out and talked about his 584 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:23.880 stuff. No, no, that was there was there presenting, but uh 585 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:28.239 and then there was the Mario Maker stuff and Zelda is that it? Oh? 586 00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:31.840 God right, I totally forgot to write down Zelda watch Fox also watching 587 00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:36.360 it, it was kind of referenced. They said they said Star foxs will 588 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:40.000 be out the summers basically basically summer or other because they were eluded that. 589 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.440 I don't think it's really hard for me to imagine that game. It's not 590 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.760 November. But yeah, they said by Thanksgiving, and the star Fox would 591 00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.159 be out before that. Oh wait, they said Zelda was by Thanksgiving. 592 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.280 Yeah, so you think star Fox is a summer summer Yeah, that's fucking 593 00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:59.559 crazy. I don't there's a Star Fox game six months away that they haven't 594 00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:01.920 announced. If you they announced it, I mean we're shown and put a 595 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:06.599 name on it. If you look at their lineup, like these games have 596 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:12.320 to exist in those timeframes because they don't have a lineup past us like Splatoon 597 00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:16.760 might be the last. Yeah, you would have Yoshi and Kirby early parts 598 00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:22.800 of but like nothing past the spring right right, nothing major anyway like Zelda's 599 00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:24.960 nebulous. But then Mario Maker then didn't put a firm date on when they 600 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.719 announced it back at the three. So did they think it looks early? 601 00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:30.920 Yeah? I think the said early in the trailer, maybe in March for 602 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:34.599 April. So yeah, Mario Maker Earl is like kind of getting there. 603 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.159 It's say, it's hard to say. Maybe they showed World and three and 604 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.480 stuff in there. I mean that's progress, and it seems like they're kind 605 00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:45.280 of implying that there'll be mechanics that are exclusive to each tile set, but 606 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.440 like it doesn't sound like they're necessarily saying that that includes the physics. Yeah. 607 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:52.440 Yeah, like they showed the new Super Mario Brothers wall jumps and stuff, 608 00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.760 and like I think it'd be weird if they went back and put that 609 00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:00.000 functionality in three Year World or something. Yeah. Have they said specifically, 610 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.000 well, I guess it's the firstime they've shown different arts styles, right they 611 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:07.679 show I mean it had two art styles in it back Mario Brothers and Original. 612 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:09.199 So have they ever said that, like you're gonna be able to flip 613 00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:14.400 art styles between your own designs you can send when you're playing that prototype. 614 00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.199 The prototype at E three was it was just a graphical like tap the button 615 00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:20.239 of changes like it's see that that worries me then, and they showed some 616 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.440 of that in that trailer. I thought, I feel like, so it 617 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:27.480 just doesn't seem like that because that thing, I still maintain that for that 618 00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.360 thing to be exactly what it needs to be, you need to be able 619 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.559 to create the entirety of those games. In those games. Yeah, if 620 00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.559 they're going to include the tile set, you need to be able to make 621 00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.760 it. Uh. And you know, so that means if you're including Super 622 00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:43.440 Mario World, that means allowing people to make levels that have hidden exits. 623 00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:47.840 That means like overall, it means allowing people to create packs of levels that 624 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:52.079 connect together and having the physics be right, bugs and all. I think 625 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.239 they'd have like a world map that you can make too or is that a 626 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:57.079 bit too ambitious? I think it's a bit too ambitious, But you know, 627 00:38:57.079 --> 00:38:59.280 you should be able to string levels together and then you know, you 628 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:00.679 can create warps and stuff like. You know, the version they showed to 629 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:06.679 the three didn't even have working pipes, so you know, and and they 630 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.519 just were saying jack shit about it back then. Other than like this is 631 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:12.840 what it is. We don't think it's gonna on a little sharing. I 632 00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.800 don't know that'd be cool. That's the part that I'm still not super confident, 633 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.440 is like they could make the best level editor in the world and the 634 00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.159 way you share it, but like they don't nail that. Push Moo has 635 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:24.679 that stuff, you know, like Nintendo has put out products that do that. 636 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:29.400 Sure mostly writes, I guess they just mean, like the game actually 637 00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:32.039 the extra mile of the connected levels and things like that is really what it's 638 00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:37.119 gonna make it shine beyond. Yeah, And that's the that's the thing. 639 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.159 I feel like they to ultimately realize this concept and replace all the ROM hacks 640 00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:44.760 and level editors and stuff that people use with emulators, like it needs to 641 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:47.039 be that robust. And I guess I'm just worried that they're not gonna go 642 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:51.440 They're gonna get like seventy percent of the way there and go we nailed it. 643 00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.960 Like, No, they're afraid of like replacing their own games. No, 644 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.519 because I think that you know, they can still sell those things separately 645 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:00.920 on the WU and they'll probably do fine. Uh And and also like, 646 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.239 you know, at some point they put out a new console and Mario Maker 647 00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.199 is not available for that again, so they could get away with selling all 648 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.440 those Mario games again for the film. So most of those levels are gonna 649 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:13.239 be junk so like, and the ones that are really good, maybe they'll 650 00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.679 take inspiration from and be like, yeah, that's we should probably make that 651 00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:20.559 game. Or they should just charge an appropriate amount for Mario Maker and actually 652 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:24.320 just include all those games with it off the bat. Ooh, Mario Maker 653 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:28.960 plus like an All Stars Yeah, that'd be awesome, play all those games 654 00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:32.280 in Mario Maker off the bat. Absolutely. The whole thing about flippant art 655 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:35.440 styles though, worries me. It makes me feel like that you're gonna have 656 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.039 to have like a common rule set, no matter what it looks like, 657 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.159 right for the levels to keep working. If they were going to do that, 658 00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:43.039 I guess they'd probably go with New Super Mario Brothers. That seemed to 659 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.159 be the direction they were going in at three, which is good. I 660 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.639 mean those games feel good, but it be it just people that have played 661 00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.840 World and three in those games are like, there's one thing off about that, 662 00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.679 and those are those are different games, you know. Yeah, So 663 00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.360 that's yeah, we'll see, or like Yoshi is in one, like you 664 00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.840 know, like can use Yogi and Mario a threes art style or stuff like 665 00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:06.840 I want to see what original Mario Brothers Yoshi looks like. Yeah, yeah, 666 00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.440 it's a piece of pooh right on. It's literally brown. Yeah, 667 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.039 it's brown spright. It'd be cool if you could play those original games and 668 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:22.480 then just start yeah yeah at anytimes with stuff. Well, they showed that 669 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.840 when somebody was running and they jumped, and then they kind of paused it 670 00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:31.760 and showed the person drawing in Yeah. Yeah, what if you can make 671 00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:37.920 cat Mario right, yeah, just make blocks invisible, just make it super 672 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.480 fucked. I mean you should be able to some of the mechanics are real. 673 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.559 Some of the custom stages they had in that trailer, I thought we 674 00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.440 pretty neat some pretty neat like clockwork setups of things happening that they had. 675 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:54.280 Yeah, that that thing will hopefully be perfect. How about that it's so 676 00:41:54.360 --> 00:42:00.320 close that feels like a dangerously close to like sorry, Like that's gonna be 677 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.760 a huge teach you the disappointing game next year. Like it's a weird situation 678 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.679 because you can sit there and list out exactly what it needs to be right. 679 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:09.360 Yeah, like you could bullet point a list of here are the things 680 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.840 you need to hit. It's just a question of whether they do, because 681 00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.280 it wouldn't even be that hard. If they can, yes, will it 682 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:19.719 right, if they like allocate the resources to make it right is a is 683 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:25.079 a big question. And then the show does Zelda Yeah on a TV Yeah, 684 00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:30.000 Zelda funny Andrew, We're both sitting there trying to figure out. I 685 00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.840 think it might be real. Really, I don't know. I've kind of 686 00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:38.920 gone back and examined the footage was convinced it was. It really struck me 687 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:44.079 a corner pin to that TV. Yeah, but there's some stuff about it. 688 00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:45.880 I went back and looked at the kind of over the shoulder shots of 689 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:50.840 the game pad, and he does hold it up kind of each time they 690 00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.840 kind of show the inset shot. So the one is when he holds it 691 00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:58.440 up and does I forget what. There's some motion control with the game pad, 692 00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:00.039 and it looks like it's mapping pretty well. Even if they comped it 693 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.880 after the fact, they could have been recording from them playing live. Well, 694 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:06.280 So yeah, that's the only thing, Like there was like some kind 695 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.159 of real dirty build that they're playing live, and then they put this like 696 00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:14.280 nice gorgeous render that was not rendered in real time, that was just kind 697 00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:19.519 of rendered through passes on. Getting into some healthy conspiracy theories, I've just 698 00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:25.079 recorded a demo and then that's what I would do, just kind of like, 699 00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:28.320 okay, let's just do another render. We recorded that, let's just 700 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.039 do it another render pass on it and pin that up. He does put 701 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.880 his arm in front of the screen a couple of times, and that's hard. 702 00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:37.880 It could be mapped out. I know. That's the biggest conspiracy of 703 00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:39.840 the show. Glad you guys are here to break this down. The reflections 704 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:43.679 look weird. Reflections are weird, and there's a lot of different light sources 705 00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.840 in that room, and having record recorded videos off of TV's for a long 706 00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:52.800 time, it's very hard to balance light balance, I'm sorry, white balance 707 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:55.079 all of that stuff together to have your screen look okay. So you can 708 00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.119 do it because you can change the color temperature in a window right behind the 709 00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.199 master sort does not burn at that temperature. I love I love how we're 710 00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:06.840 spending all of this effort here and not even questioning their decision not to just 711 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:09.400 fucking direct feed full frame. That's Nintendo's really gotta have a shoulder in the 712 00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:13.239 shop. Yes, that make a lot more sense when you have people moving 713 00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:16.440 their arms around to play the game. And I think that so early enough, 714 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.760 which also is what makes me think this game is shipping next November. 715 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.760 Like, yeah, but I like it too. You know, there may 716 00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:27.400 be details and draw distance, they don't, you know, they're perfectionists. 717 00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:29.360 Yeah, like they want to show more of it, but they're not ready 718 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.480 to lead than the show. Yeah. Yeah, but I totally believe what 719 00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.599 you're saying, like this is a good way to hide any like kind of 720 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:37.599 small flaws that would show up if you could scrutinize it. Especially it did 721 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.360 look pretty blown out though at some point when he was like on the horse 722 00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:44.440 and there's a bunch of green and I'll like bled into the same shade, 723 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:45.800 and that's what happens when you shoot off a TV. So I don't know, 724 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:51.719 maybe they thought of that. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, 725 00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:53.840 Like I mean, unregardless, support to come in here and rerender it to 726 00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:57.760 see if it's accurate. It looked looks cool. I thought it looks really 727 00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.760 nice. I hopefully they you know, what they're in applying it could be 728 00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.440 a part of that game. If that actually is what that game is, 729 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.480 Like I'm super exciting about it. Like it's still not really clear. Like 730 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:08.639 they said a way point, you know, like one of the things that 731 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.960 uh I knew, missad I was like, oh, you're gonna see something 732 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.280 in the distance. They plan a way point and then go and do it, 733 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:19.239 Like I was gonna say implies like it's just how big is this fucking 734 00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:22.199 world. We're gonna say, you can tell how new Ninto is at making 735 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.480 open world games. They totally did the you can see that tower over there, 736 00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.679 yeah, and then you might just go to it. Yeah, I 737 00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:37.519 love that hopping off the horse and SlowMo arrowshot thingy. Influential talk goes and 738 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.159 yeah. Yeah. The use of the map on the game pad like really 739 00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.159 nice, Like if you see it is a huge if you are doing a 740 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.639 proper open world and you can like annotate the map and drop way points on 741 00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.079 there and stuff and like go back and forth like that. If that's that's 742 00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.000 looks pretty useful and it's gonna be great for mapping like items and stuff. 743 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.840 Because Ocarina time on three DS, it was so great, like I need 744 00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.480 to turn off and put on my iron boots in the water time we just 745 00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.360 tap a screen instead of pausing every time and switching out the mapping, Like 746 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:05.400 it's that could be great. I'm very curious design wise if they take some 747 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:07.760 of the stuff that was in was it the link to the past, when 748 00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:12.719 the link between worlds between worlds and do the kind of more choose which dungeon 749 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.239 you want to go to? Uh? Do you want to? You know 750 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:16.679 not open world is a bad way to put it, but like you know, 751 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.480 you choose which dungeons you want to go to. The items that you 752 00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:24.559 get don't rely sequentially on you know you And also the thing like bombs and 753 00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:30.199 arrows and stuff being tied to a cool down meter instead of like slashing bushes 754 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.199 to get bombs and arrows. Like I love that change in link between worlds. 755 00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.000 Yeah. One of the things that aim Is said the said in the 756 00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:37.920 video is that we wanted to make it to their events in the game that 757 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:42.000 you might miss, Like I don't think they're going to go full on systems 758 00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.079 like you know, Bethesda, but they seem to be wanting to drawing elements 759 00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:47.079 of that, like if you choose to go over here, you might miss 760 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:50.880 out on what's happening on this side of the map. And I don't know. 761 00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.119 All that stuff sounds potentially like I think this stuff could make a news 762 00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:57.880 Elda game like really exciting, and that the new art style looks fantastic, 763 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:00.559 like it's Skyward Sword. I kind of liked it they're trying to do, 764 00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.480 but it didn't really click for me. And this seems like a middle ground 765 00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:08.159 between Skyward Sword and Windwaker in a way that I think looks really fantastic. 766 00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:13.280 Yeah, so yeah, it makes you it makes you realize how restrictive the 767 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.639 kind of the overworld design has been in the last two three Zelda's, like 768 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:20.880 not having a true you know, like remember that like the shape of the 769 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:22.320 map and the first Zelda it was just giant fucking rectangle, you know. 770 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:27.039 I think Twilight Princess was probably the last three D one to have a full 771 00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.000 map like that, like wind Wakers, just little islands, skyward sworders, 772 00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.760 the floating on the rocks and everything. Yeah that's true. Yeah, Yeah, 773 00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:37.880 it's been a weirdly long time since anything like that MAJORA and Twilight Princess 774 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:42.519 had it. But yeah, lately, you know, really yeah, pretty 775 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:46.079 good. And then then they showed a bunch of like new videos from games 776 00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:50.199 so we already know about and in some cases we'll be playing like a month 777 00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.760 from now, Dying Light and stuff like that. No Man Sky. Yeah, 778 00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.480 that was much more heavily represented after the PlayStation experience. Actually, I 779 00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.480 got a download code for some build of Dying Light. Oh god, really, 780 00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:05.039 I thought you were gonna say no. Thought you were gonna say that 781 00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.280 too. I was like, why are we even sitting there even all day 782 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:08.880 and you haven't mentioned this? Yeah, I was planet. I don't know, 783 00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:13.400 fly to planets or something discovered a planet? Is that cool? I 784 00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.760 don't know, but yeah, PlayStation experience was kind of bright and early next 785 00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:21.880 morning, are we talking about No Man Sky? No Man Sky scares me 786 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.480 to death? Why? Because I feel like we're just setting up a most 787 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:30.760 disappointing category, because because like what is like that is the refrain? Like 788 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:32.679 the thing? Ever? That's the line now about that game as well? 789 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:37.719 I think because they've been so cagy about what you actually do, everyone's filling 790 00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:45.599 it in with their own expectations, and you can't expect to hit all of 791 00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:47.679 those when everyone's are different, I guess like, would you be happy it 792 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.880 was just a scanning game. So here's the thing I have come to realize 793 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.599 over the weekend. Okay, the thing everybody else is worried about No Man 794 00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:59.719 Sky being is something I would be perfectly happy with it the scanning game. 795 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.360 Like well, I mean that's a look at reductive. But like, if 796 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:07.320 that game is okay the galaxy, if that game really is primarily focused on 797 00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:12.400 just exploring and like taking in an infinite number of sites, you know, 798 00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.400 and and like really just about feeding a sense of wonder, Like I think 799 00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:17.840 I'm all right with that because like I will never be able to travel the 800 00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:24.119 stars in my own lifetime. So you know, if there's no gameplay, 801 00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:28.840 if it's just those visuals in that soundtrack, I am going to start taking 802 00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:32.079 drunks because I think that's yes, if that's if that's all it is, 803 00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.400 then people who smoke a lot of weed will get way more out of it 804 00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:39.719 than everybody else. But I mean they've already said that they're you know, 805 00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:45.400 there are enough like hard mechanics or whatever you want to call them in terms 806 00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:49.400 of like weaponry and ship upgrades. We've not seen engine up They don't have 807 00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.480 to show they'll talk about that stuff. I feel like they just not in 808 00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:57.239 the trailers. Haven't been you guys haven't been reading enough. But they've absolutely 809 00:49:57.239 --> 00:49:59.119 been talking. No, I'm serious, like that info is out there. 810 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:01.880 I'm saying, like that stuff doesn't play well on a trailer. But they've 811 00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:08.360 shooting and that totally doesn't play well. They've shown ship combats first. Since 812 00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:12.760 the first video, they have shown footage of you in your cockkits shooting down 813 00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.239 other ships. I remember, like, I feel like that people just keep 814 00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:19.519 glossing that stuff over. But they've Yeah, they've talked a little more nuts 815 00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.519 and bolts, like but but yes, but to what end? Oh, 816 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.000 you're right, you're right. That is if it's just target practice, well, 817 00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:27.599 to get to the center of the university and something happens the yeah, 818 00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:31.599 the end your mind comes out. Yeah, is that curiosity frog fractions too? 819 00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:35.159 If you just if you get to the center of the galaxy and it's 820 00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:37.559 just the curiosity cube and you have to start tapping on it and everyone else 821 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:42.960 to start shooting it, yep, for months shows up. You're right, 822 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:44.880 Like, why you'd want to get to the center of the galaxy? They 823 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:49.039 haven't said, like what the specifics are of it, but there they did 824 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:53.559 talk about how the engine specifically lore in in one of the in one of 825 00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:59.000 the presentations, either it was at the Game Awards or at the Placeason Experience 826 00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:00.800 that it was in reference too, But it was the first time I've heard 827 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:05.559 them talk about like a mythology right for that game, And that makes me 828 00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:09.960 curious if maybe they are hiding a lot about this game they also know about 829 00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:14.079 yet that's it's certainly possible, but they know they can kind of get away 830 00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:17.559 with sweeping vistas and that shot of you going from the planet to space like 831 00:51:17.639 --> 00:51:21.679 for a little bit while. And do you think this game comes out next 832 00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:23.440 year? I think it kind of has to. Maybe, I don't know. 833 00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:25.559 I mean, I feel like that's what they've sort of been angling to, 834 00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:29.559 right they're showing it on I'm too rapid of a scale at this point. 835 00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:32.840 Yeah, maybe too much further off than that. Yeah, And they 836 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:37.039 said, like, we have a date set in our minds that we have 837 00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:40.559 to stop working on it because we could just do this forever, keep implementing 838 00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:44.079 features, and I think they planned to do that. They said they planned 839 00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:45.360 to do that also after the fact, but at some point we have to 840 00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:49.239 ship it right, Like one of the things that kind of worried me. 841 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.239 You know, whatever it is, they have not said one way or the 842 00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:54.079 other like you guys said, but like he lands on that platform, gets 843 00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:58.840 out of the ship, looks around, gets back on the ship, and 844 00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.000 takes off like right. I mean you know part of that I think, 845 00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:04.880 do you need to land? You need to because do you need to walk 846 00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:07.000 around at all on planets? Is it just the same? I mean, 847 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:10.639 like I had asked a bunch of those questions back at E three. Uh, 848 00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:14.079 And like you know, there will be a like what sounds like a 849 00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.760 traditional open world little mini map when you're actually playing the game. I mean, 850 00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:20.039 they seem to have disabled a lot of that stuff and the trailers, 851 00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:24.360 but like you'll effectively have the equivalent of like question marks on your little minimap 852 00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:28.280 on any given planet, and those represent like you know, it could be 853 00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:30.679 alien ruins or oh there's a crash ship or its like by fuel blah blah 854 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:32.719 blah. Like probably, I don't know. I thought there was like a 855 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:36.559 one part where you're kind of it looked like you were getting minerals that might 856 00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.519 then be a resource. It seems that that's the case. I mean, 857 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:42.559 because at E three it kind of sounds like every question we had was still 858 00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:45.599 their design was still open enough where they're like, you know, we're thinking 859 00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:47.000 about doing I don't. I think that was just more of them not wanting 860 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:50.760 to commit to things publicly yet. But like after the fact, when we 861 00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:52.159 were like they were like shoving us out the door, and I wouldn't stop 862 00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:54.960 asking questions, and like Sean was saying, like, you know, you'll 863 00:52:54.960 --> 00:53:00.599 start out into the given system and you won't have engines with faster than capability 864 00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:01.800 to get to the next system, so you'll have to build up, like 865 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:06.559 you could spend several hours building up your engine, that's true, before you 866 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:08.639 move on. Like it, it sounds like there are very regiment and mechanics 867 00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:12.760 in there, even if they're not out there. I'm still super excited, 868 00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:15.079 so of course, yeah, yeah, I think, but my my excitement 869 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.639 is starting to turn. It it's starting to like crest into fear. I 870 00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:22.800 mean, just just think how many times like we as a whole have been 871 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:27.400 let down by by very ambitious sounding projects in recent years. Exactly, we've 872 00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:29.480 all been burned in various and like, you know, as much as we 873 00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:34.719 might want to believe wholeheartedly and something like that. It's hard to because they're 874 00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:37.599 saying really incredible things, and that's you know, that's that's usually a sign 875 00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:42.480 that something is probably not actually correct. There. I just I'm keeping my 876 00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.840 expectations realistic by taking everything to say it face value. It's like, I 877 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.960 have no reason to doubt the scale and variety of the of the world that 878 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:52.159 they're creating, and beyond that, I'm not expecting anything else to be there. 879 00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.440 So so like I'm happy with what they've said. Alright, you're going 880 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.599 for that. It could be the game, it is, maybe not the 881 00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:00.760 game if it's if that game is tri quarter or the game and you're just 882 00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:06.159 like flying around scanning shit and fair enough analyzing mineral composition and stuff like, 883 00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:08.800 I'll be all right with us. Also, if somehow Morpheus ships next year, 884 00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:14.559 I feel like that game would be incredibly enabled by by VR. Yeah. 885 00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:16.719 Yeah, yeah, it's just naked. It's coming out on PC two 886 00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:22.239 but yeah, yeah, well they've said that, but probably it's kind of 887 00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:23.559 like all those things. Yeah, it's not coming on on Xbox One but 888 00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:28.280 PC like a quarter later. Sure. Actually, I think I want to 889 00:54:28.320 --> 00:54:30.960 say when they unveiled it at the press conference at the three. They used 890 00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:37.840 like console exclusive type language or something like that. So what else did they 891 00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.480 show at that experience? Man, well, I think fucking news came out 892 00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:44.519 of that thing they showed. That was that the second to last thing they 893 00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:46.400 showed. It was later on for sure because I thought that. Then they 894 00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:52.239 went back and it was Jaffe at the very end to close up a questionable 895 00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:53.920 choice, I think for the order of things. The last thing I'll say 896 00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:58.679 about no man skuy. I mean they did show some like navigating between stars 897 00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.440 type gameplay which I wasn't show. There are two videos they posted watching Stargate 898 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:05.719 sort of thing. Well, there was battle, there was that, but 899 00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:08.840 there was also just almost menu style just selecting another star to like Warp two. 900 00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:12.599 Okay, so there's some there's more meat in there if you want to 901 00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:15.280 go look at it. I want to say. They said five means of 902 00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:19.679 getting around planets or transporting, and like one of them they showed was like 903 00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:22.239 you walking up to like that weird portal. Yeah, there's a weird stargate 904 00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.320 And then and there was like I thought there was another shot would look like 905 00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:29.800 literal like star gates, like circles like rings, like. I wonder if 906 00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:31.960 there'll be just other ways of getting around that, yeah, or maybe I 907 00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:36.840 wouldn't be surprised if there's like a deployable like speeder type thing or whatever. 908 00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:40.599 All right, I'm gonna go in the order that I wrote the stuff down. 909 00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:45.920 Okay. Uncharted four opened the show. That looks real good freaking minutes 910 00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:50.400 of them playing Uncharted four live? Would you get out of it? Give 911 00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.960 me the give of the bullet points? I kind of cruised through footage because 912 00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:55.239 we missed that when we were watched like I Charted, I do I really 913 00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:00.639 like them charted? Would you play another Uncharted game? Uh? Yes? 914 00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:04.719 Okay? What if Nathan Drake had an older brother that'd be real funny. 915 00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:08.079 What if that older brother was voiced by Troy Baker oh Man? Really? 916 00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.920 Yeah? Is it? Is it? Definitely him? I thought it sounded 917 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:15.239 like it's really weird. What's that I want to say? He confirmed him. 918 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:19.320 That has got to be the most self aware piece of casting in the 919 00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:22.280 history of video games. And I love it. That's great because their brother, 920 00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:23.320 you know, they sounded like you. When you call him up, 921 00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:29.159 he can he can't tell he's a on. Uh did anybody catch his name 922 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:39.159 the brother John Drake yea like, oh man, Jonathan Drake Sony's putting his 923 00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:44.880 own people into games. True, that's true. Thing, Now, there 924 00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:45.840 was a lot of there was a lot of like kind of you know, 925 00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:52.559 it's got a whip do well exactly okay, but it's Indiana Jones bro kind 926 00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:55.119 of. I mean that it was a lot of like, you know, 927 00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:59.000 the still looks like familiar Uncharted, but with like X, Y and Z 928 00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:00.559 added to the mechanics. So like, yeah, there was the thing where 929 00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:05.599 he kind of like through grappling hook and sort of like did a swung down, 930 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:08.159 popped his gun up, grabbed it and then shot another guy. It 931 00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:12.039 was one of those things where like it was very like game demo. He 932 00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:15.840 but it looked awesome. It looked really cool, like I'm stabbing Rocks was 933 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:20.960 oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I feel like that's yeah, like 934 00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:23.320 the long demo, Like I appreciate that they're just like we're gonna show a 935 00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:27.480 whole lot of this game. Uh. And then when it was a bunch 936 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:32.119 of like the same kind of low stakes climbing game gameplay in air quotes that 937 00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:36.320 Uncharted has been up to this point, like I was severely like, oh 938 00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:38.519 right, I I'm not so interested in this game. I was, I 939 00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:40.840 don't know. You see a guy and then you you're below him on a 940 00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:44.360 cliff and then you go around the cliff and pop up behind him and push 941 00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:46.519 him off the ledge. Yeah, that's awesome. But then you creep through 942 00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:52.480 jungle crouched and it looks awesome. That Yeah, it looked really nice. 943 00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:54.519 Cool. There's the stuff where he's sliding down hills like shooting while he's doing 944 00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:57.719 shoot while you're like sliding down a slow There was a lot. There was 945 00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.679 a lot of what's there was a lot of him talking yes to himself. 946 00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:06.360 That doesn't look good. I'm that I'm kind of I'm kind of with you. 947 00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:08.519 I was a little bored during parts of that demo. I liked it 948 00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:12.719 when he fell out of the world and died. That was the moment of 949 00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.800 that demo for sure. He fell through the world like Assassin's Freed style. 950 00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.840 But I mean, I mean, whatever, if anything, it proves like 951 00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.159 this was a live that game's got to be a year away, so whatever, 952 00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:25.320 Yeah, totally damn whatever. But I'm not worried about that stuff. 953 00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:29.559 I mean, it looked fantastic. It looked really great, look really great. 954 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:31.559 It seems like the levels were maybe a little less linear or kind of 955 00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:37.360 bigger open spaces. It seemed like it seemed like there were more pathways through 956 00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:39.159 this kind of cliff side area than there would have been in the past. 957 00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:44.639 Maybe anybody sure gave him that impression. Yeah, if it is linear, 958 00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:50.280 then it's very well constructed, not a little bit well, more like just 959 00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:53.599 like you'd have a lot of options in like combat situations too, coming things 960 00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:59.159 from different angles and stuff like that, but nothing super surprising, Like it 961 00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:00.320 just looks like a really good, solid and charted games. Then it was 962 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:05.119 eight hours of him fighting blue guys. Oh no, don't remind me about 963 00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:08.000 that part. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if that trailer necessarily made 964 00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:13.400 me feel like it justifies why they're necessarily making another one of those, even 965 00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:16.480 if yeah, it looks so they can hand it off to Troy Baker. 966 00:59:16.599 --> 00:59:20.519 This is just a segue to be like, dah, you know, I'm 967 00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:23.960 done because they have they have, didn't they say? Or something like or 968 00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:29.559 that was the trailers chart of him shot or something. It's called a yeah, 969 00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:32.280 like you're gonna kill Nate And then he's gonna have his brother takeover. 970 00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:37.000 Oh sure, yeah, yeah, well whatever, I mean, you know 971 00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:38.119 the kind of the leads from Last of Us are doing it, So I'm 972 00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:40.159 curious to see what they do with him. A charted game at least, 973 00:59:40.920 --> 00:59:44.679 Yeah, for sure, Like the animation looked real good. Yeah, it 974 00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:50.159 just immediately means it goes dark and gritty or there's this virus. Okay, 975 00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:53.440 I mean it's not what I would have chosen for Naughty Dogs do next, 976 00:59:53.559 --> 01:00:00.599 but like, I'll still if he brings back the fungus. There's there's an 977 01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:04.519 easter egg and turn to three where you find a newspaper and it's like, 978 01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.480 oh, mystery Vivers starts spreading, so like it's theorized that it isn't the 979 01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:14.320 same universe. WHOA well, all right, uh since the last podcast, 980 01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:17.920 Street Fighter five got leaked yeah and then confirmed at this thing, I guess 981 01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:22.559 yeah, this would have been the biggest announcement at the experience. It still 982 01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:24.719 was. I mean, you know, even in spite of that stuff leaking 983 01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:29.400 early, I still think they put on a good show, and especially that 984 01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:31.920 hype trailer that was a that was was it a good trailer? You got 985 01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:35.440 to get your explosions in the sky in there to like really give it the 986 01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:39.639 plaintiff edge. So does a new Street Fighter need to have a like new 987 01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:43.760 art style? Do you feel like I think number? Yeah. I was 988 01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:46.480 a little bummed at how similar to four it looks. Yeah. They're also 989 01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:51.119 saying that Ultra is Ultra street Fighter four is coming to PS four next spring, 990 01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:54.440 so which is kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, I like it. 991 01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:58.159 Well, yeah, I mean does that means so far? That just 992 01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.440 means it's not coming Taxbox all right, it's a PC. Right, Well, 993 01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:05.320 the Ultra is already out on PC, and Ultra is already out on 994 01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:08.119 Xbox three sixty and p S three. Okay, so that's it's one of 995 01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:12.199 those like you know, let's add another layer to this, like in terms 996 01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:16.719 of this generation the consoles exclusive it's like, well that's crazy, like I 997 01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:22.320 said, but yeah, the street Fighter five is exclusive to PS four and 998 01:01:22.440 --> 01:01:27.519 PC. Okay, forever, forever, forever, very much the same kind 999 01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:30.159 of inky art style. Yeah, Like that was kind of the hook with 1000 01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:32.440 the art style in the first place. I mean, besides it being three 1001 01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:37.079 D, but they had that brush strokes to me, Yeah, assuming assuming 1002 01:01:37.639 --> 01:01:39.599 it's only on that one kick in the in the footage though, right, 1003 01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:43.400 it's not all over in the same way it's all over four No, it's 1004 01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:45.599 all over the place. Oka. I'm watching it now and like when you're 1005 01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:51.960 throwing the hooks everything. Yeah, that that's a bummer. It's not a 1006 01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.400 really good looking arts. It is like we were looking incredible when it came 1007 01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:57.960 out, Like, think about how many years we've been looking at that arts 1008 01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:01.119 and I to warm up to that to begin with. Really, yeah, 1009 01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:04.800 seriously, the three D stuff up once I made, you know, like 1010 01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:07.840 the chew dy style gameplay with the treaty montels, I was okay with it, 1011 01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:10.840 begrudgingly accepted it. But it's more than to move on. Yeah, 1012 01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:14.800 it's more than just the like the inky hit effects and stuff. I mean, 1013 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:16.320 if you look at the characters, like the proportions are all the same, 1014 01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:22.000 sort of the materials and kind of color palette, like everything about it. 1015 01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:25.480 Basically it's like you was gonna wear white and yeah, but there something 1016 01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:28.679 about I mean maybe it's you know, shaders or whatever. We could put 1017 01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:30.559 them in a construction helmet whatever. They'll sell skins, you know. I 1018 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:34.920 mean I had a hard time knowing, Like if you showed me that I 1019 01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:37.519 would have a hard time saying there were There were a lot of comments to 1020 01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:40.320 the effect, especially when the league happened before it was found a lot of 1021 01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:44.920 teaser trailer, yeah, showed footage from four and on the three and like 1022 01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:46.599 a bunch of old stuff. But there were a lot of comments to the 1023 01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:51.000 effect of like was there a new game in there? Like people that could 1024 01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.440 not different. I didn't play enough Ultra, like that new that background I 1025 01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:55.880 could have been a new background in Ultra and I would be like all right. 1026 01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:00.639 In their defense, they put out some still screenshots that I looked at 1027 01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:04.000 and like if you look at that thing like that, like those characters are 1028 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.920 really detailed like that. Yeah, true, Like yeah, looking at it 1029 01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:08.840 and frozen like you kind of see, like, all right, this is 1030 01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:13.440 probably the next generation of this art style. I finally watched like a sixty 1031 01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:16.239 frames for second trailer with the game plane. It looks pretty amazing. Yeah, 1032 01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:20.079 in motion totally. Yeah, I'm interested this kind of see, you 1033 01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:22.519 know, because I guess like the implication is that Sony is like helping with 1034 01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:28.880 Slash funding yeah development in a way that makes this an actual exclusive word on 1035 01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:32.079 the street is that this may not have ever happened without Sony right one for 1036 01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:36.840 one reason or another. Yeah, they and they're pretty clear about pointing that 1037 01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:38.000 out, trying to not do the tumb rator thing where it's like right, 1038 01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:42.599 yeah, I mean they'd say they're like this is the old like this game 1039 01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:45.360 will only appear on this platform ever, Like I think, but so that 1040 01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:49.920 thinks that leads wiggle room for like a Super street Fighter five that goes on 1041 01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:52.239 everything. But I think like that hinges on like what is Sony's role in 1042 01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:57.400 development on the game, Like if Sony is actually like working on parts of 1043 01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:01.840 this game, then obviously work would carry forward and probably keep it off of 1044 01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:06.280 Xbox regardless of what their future versions are. Kind of depends on how big 1045 01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:11.079 troubhold Outcom is in right, I guess so, or how bad they needed 1046 01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:14.159 to help us. So does that strike you? Is like I feel like 1047 01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:17.880 there's something fundamentally different about like a Rise of the Tomb Rader versus like a 1048 01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:23.199 Street Fighter going exclusive. I feel like this is like them actually doing the 1049 01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:26.639 business. And you know, whether that's good or bad, I think it. 1050 01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:29.920 You know, it depends on your perspective on exclusives. But like Rise 1051 01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:31.679 of the tomb Rader, like when they make a big deal about that announcement. 1052 01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:35.800 I hate it when they do that for tim to exclusives like this in 1053 01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:40.280 a case where like theoretically you know this isn't coming ever, you know, 1054 01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:44.840 and wiggle room aside, like that's a big deal at that point because that's 1055 01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:49.320 insane. No one does that anymore, And that's interesting. But like whether 1056 01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:51.320 that's a good move or not, I think it actually probably is. If 1057 01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:56.079 you look at the territories where Sony Cells consoles, the street Fighter is a 1058 01:04:56.079 --> 01:05:00.639 great fit for all of those territories. I guess I was thinking more it 1059 01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:04.440 sucks for the fans, yeah, oh yeah, exclusives always suck for you 1060 01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:08.119 know, people that like choice, you know, totally like they they're putting 1061 01:05:08.119 --> 01:05:12.639 it on PC. It's cross play across PC and yeah, wild platform and 1062 01:05:13.039 --> 01:05:15.440 four. I never thought I would see the day that that would happen with 1063 01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:18.840 anything ever, And I'm more surprised if we can actually see it done well 1064 01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:24.079 right, they can't even get their PC NETCA culture. Yeah, it was 1065 01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:28.119 a fucking wreck. Yeah, on every platform they put out in that patch 1066 01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:31.840 in October, mostly in how this is kind of a tangent, but how 1067 01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:36.639 seriously does the like hardcore fighting community take PC versions of fighting games. It 1068 01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:43.000 really it boils down to net code and if it's like there's no input lag 1069 01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:47.599 you know. So I think PS three is like very popular in tournaments, 1070 01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:51.559 but Xbox Live is like where it's at like if you're playing online. Okay, 1071 01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:56.280 So so yeah, it really varies. They're very very picky about ship. 1072 01:05:56.719 --> 01:06:00.639 But I had a pretty good experience with the PC, just the exception 1073 01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:02.760 of the neck coode stuff. But yeah, yeah, I don't know, 1074 01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:05.599 it's it's a it's a weird one and it sounds like so I guess. 1075 01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:12.440 There was a FAMIDSU piece with Ono where he was saying that they weren't originally 1076 01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:15.360 going to show that gameplay video here, but because the leak happened, they 1077 01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:21.039 bumped that up from the Capcom Pro Tour finals to the Vegas event. This 1078 01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:25.119 was this was just kind of an unbroken fight. Yeah, that's right, 1079 01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:28.920 So that was originally you know that stuff. The gameplay debut was originally going 1080 01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:33.360 to be this coming weekend, Okay, and now they say they have some 1081 01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:39.599 other announcement that they're holding for Yeah. I checked this week from from Capcom 1082 01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:43.960 earlier today and they're they're talking about a live demo. Yeah, they're going 1083 01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:47.239 to do some stuff, so yeah, you're gonna be there. Yeah, 1084 01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:54.639 where's that taking place? Right here? And and yeah, I don't know, 1085 01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.639 like they're talking about this thing like it's going to have features in it. 1086 01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:00.960 In some ways, it's like there's something you've all he's been asking for. 1087 01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:03.800 I just I don't know what that even is. The same characters, 1088 01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:06.679 the same character finally. Yeah, but like you know, in terms of 1089 01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:12.599 just like modes or something, I can't really I'm trying having trouble imagining it 1090 01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.440 could be as far as mechanics. Uh, we didn't see focus stack right 1091 01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:19.039 coming back. I saw aush. Yeah, like a lot of stuff that 1092 01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:23.320 we've seen in other fighting games, but not necessarily in like street fighter games. 1093 01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:27.159 So it's like OTG attacks. Uh, it seems to be kind I 1094 01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:30.320 didn't watch I didn't actually watch the video all the way through. Is there 1095 01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:31.480 an OG in there? Yeah, you know, a couple of kind of 1096 01:07:31.480 --> 01:07:36.400 that's so if you knock somebody on the ground, they're usually invulnerable, Okay, 1097 01:07:36.480 --> 01:07:43.800 but hit them there on the ground. I get. I see a 1098 01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:46.000 little bit of that jargon. Do you think that the street Fighter is basically 1099 01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:48.840 over this idea of being like appealing to everyone, which is kind of like 1100 01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:53.239 part of Four's sort of like, ah, we're hard, coordinating, exciting, 1101 01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:55.880 we also want everyone to play fighting games. Again. I think that, 1102 01:07:55.960 --> 01:07:57.719 like, you know, depending on what they do with the modes that 1103 01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:00.039 that you know, that that's where that's determined. I mean, if you 1104 01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:04.159 think about the basic level of Street Fighter, I think it's always gonna be 1105 01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:09.159 rooted in Street Fighter two. You know, like you're you're gonna throw a 1106 01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:11.719 fireball that way, You're going to do a dragon bunch that way. Like 1107 01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:15.720 it really is kind of basic. You know, it depends on like what 1108 01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:19.199 the advanced levels of play are, Like focus attacks were not, you know, 1109 01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:23.119 like I had never got into them because I played it like Street Fighter 1110 01:08:23.159 --> 01:08:27.640 two, but they but they are a key part of that game. So 1111 01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:30.920 they could very easily do that with a different set of mechanics, you know, 1112 01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:34.279 like Street Fighter three head with Perry's like you didn't need to necessarily Perry 1113 01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:38.359 unless you were playing someone who knew what the fuck they were doing, and 1114 01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:42.119 then you it became incredibly crucial. It was there's a sort of the mistake 1115 01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:44.680 you the lull you fall into. It is just like you'd go in playing 1116 01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:46.560 it like it was the old game, and then someone who actually plays it 1117 01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:50.039 like it's the new game comes in and fucking stomps you, and you either 1118 01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:53.920 decide to adapt or just fold. At that point, it just seems like 1119 01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:59.119 that's the arc of fighting games is like simplify, then complex complex at more 1120 01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:00.720 complexity, until it hits a wall. Then you just start over again, 1121 01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:02.239 I guess. But like if if you look at like, you know, 1122 01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:08.680 like a street Fighter has never been like ARC Systems level of complexity has never 1123 01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:13.840 been Kings. Yeah, but like three, even if a lot of freeze 1124 01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:16.159 mechanics are in four, like, it's not you know, it's not entirely 1125 01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:20.079 it's not that much more complicated ultimately, you know, it's like the Perry 1126 01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:24.479 system I think is scary to a lot of people because it is it requires 1127 01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:28.000 you to know what's being thrown at you at any given moment, But it's 1128 01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:30.680 not dramatic, Like you can explain that to someone pretty easily. It's just 1129 01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:32.359 a matter of whether they're going to be able to do it or not, 1130 01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:34.399 or whether they even need to do it for the level that they're playing. 1131 01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:40.000 At right. I certainly don't think they're willing to forego making it accessible to 1132 01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:43.520 new players in by any means. But yeah, they they've done a pretty 1133 01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:46.000 good job, you know, of keeping you know, a five year old 1134 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.399 game still relevant and it's still at the top of the heap as far as 1135 01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:53.560 you know, the tournament scene is concerned. So they're keeping people interested, 1136 01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:58.039 you know, at like new levels, high levels. Whatever. I will 1137 01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:00.840 say. When I tweeted my feelings about the art style being too similar, 1138 01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:03.359 I got plenty of responses from people to the effect of like, for people 1139 01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:05.720 that have been looking at this game for five years, you can see plenty 1140 01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:09.800 of differences. I don't see that. I think to the layman, you 1141 01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:13.840 look at and go tell me that I look at that both. I look 1142 01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:15.720 at that. I don't see any meaningful differences. Both perspectives I think are 1143 01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:18.760 valid. Like the hardcore fans are totally going to get a lot out of 1144 01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:20.840 it. But yeah, like for people that they need to bring back in 1145 01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:24.399 who haven't played it in five years, like it is maybe a hard sell 1146 01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:27.560 based on what we've seen so far, it's yeah, it's definitely an upres 1147 01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:31.279 but they're keeping that three D style with the brushstrokes and everything. Yeah, 1148 01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:34.199 that seems a little too samey. Yeah, well I did a lot of 1149 01:10:34.199 --> 01:10:36.439 It will to depend on what kind of what the mechanics are, like how 1150 01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:39.920 flashy it gets, and then what the roster is, you know. Yeah, 1151 01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:42.680 they only showed two characters. Yeah, yeah, they've only they've only 1152 01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:46.159 shown two characters, And that's sort of the I don't know, man, 1153 01:10:46.520 --> 01:10:49.439 over the all those upgrades to Street Fighter four, like they kind of added 1154 01:10:49.479 --> 01:10:53.439 everybody by the time they were done, right, I mean I can't think 1155 01:10:53.479 --> 01:10:57.000 of too many, Like there's a character here and there from like Alpha or 1156 01:10:57.039 --> 01:11:00.680 something that maybe you could still scold and maybe well yeah, I mean like 1157 01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:03.319 if you want to fucking talk about the Final Frontier, it's I was getting 1158 01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:08.640 the Rica characters back in there, because give me fucking c Jack and that 1159 01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:13.840 thing the other characters. So but yeah, they were starting to get into 1160 01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:16.039 you know, they were bringing back in the Third Strike characters and also like 1161 01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:20.359 you know, like Poison, you know, the Atlanta from like CBS the 1162 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:25.439 Greater Capcom universe. Yeah, yeah, which I just I don't know like 1163 01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:28.560 that that's where I kind of like I was already in the process of losing 1164 01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:30.159 the plot. But that's where I lost it. All the way it was 1165 01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:33.319 well, I don't even mean story, I just like I just generally speaking, 1166 01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:36.359 like the roster got too big, like I don't really care about you 1167 01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:39.840 know, it's like, don't fucking put Cody in this game? How about 1168 01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:45.600 that? It's pretty cool, it's too cool. It's the prisoner man fucking 1169 01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:48.159 knife promise. Yeah, it just picks up rocks and throws him. He's 1170 01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:51.439 got type I don't know, but like you know, like that, those 1171 01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:56.159 that tier of characters in terms of just like the story setting always kind of 1172 01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:59.159 rubbed me the wrong way. I wish they would just go, like give 1173 01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:01.760 me like the Super street Fighter two, cast the new characters from four, 1174 01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:06.520 and then new more new characters. That sounds like like, don't delve into 1175 01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:10.359 the alpha stuff. And actually, in some ways I wish that instead of 1176 01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:13.239 doing street Fighter five, I wish they would have taken like another Alpha detour, 1177 01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:15.399 actually just made a new alpha game. As weird as that it, 1178 01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:20.880 like, maybe it would be conceptually like I'm used to there being a huge 1179 01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:26.159 chunk of time between numbered Street Fighter games. How long was it between two 1180 01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:30.960 came out and one? Yeah, and the three was like so that was 1181 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.880 eight years eight for four. Yeah. Ye, like I'm used to there 1182 01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:36.800 being like, you know, this is pretty fast, yeah, reletive. 1183 01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:41.760 It's fast in terms of like, you know, there's still street Fighter four 1184 01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:45.039 updates coming out, and we're talking about street Fighter five. There's like Omega 1185 01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:47.880 Mode is not out yet. There's a there's a continuity here that there wasn't 1186 01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:51.920 in the past, right, and and that's a little weird or it's just 1187 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:56.560 a you know, like Jason's had a testament to the fact that they've rightly 1188 01:12:56.600 --> 01:13:00.279 so like maintained that game and not just let it sit. They should have 1189 01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:03.359 ram through another dark starters they tried. I know, I don't think that 1190 01:13:03.399 --> 01:13:06.880 would go over. Yeah, it wouldn't. It wouldn't. They're probably right 1191 01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:13.159 there. There are beautiful things about Large, but but it's it's not the 1192 01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:16.079 Street Fighters. Yeah. So it's just I don't know, like I because 1193 01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:18.640 I think about it as like, you know, I think about the mid 1194 01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:23.159 nineties when like Alpha was coming out and stuff like that, and like the 1195 01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:26.319 announcement of Alpha was like some kind of sick joke in a way, like 1196 01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:30.520 what do you look so you're so scared of calling games street Fighter three, 1197 01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:32.359 that you're doing this other alternate time, like the point that they got to 1198 01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:36.760 a third alpha without ever making a proper Street Fighter three, So you know, 1199 01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:41.119 that stuff's insane. So that's what I think about when I think about 1200 01:13:41.119 --> 01:13:45.199 Street Fighters, like then almost appearing afraid to put out another numbered sequel and 1201 01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:47.520 the time, but three and four the same deal. So this just this 1202 01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:54.000 just seems like it's hard for me to feel an impact with a game like 1203 01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:57.359 street Fighter five the same way you would with the way they've done it before. 1204 01:13:57.399 --> 01:13:59.279 And maybe that's I mean, for better or worse. I mean, 1205 01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:01.399 I don't know, like it was bullshit the way that they kept like milking 1206 01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:05.840 the existing games and doing all this side territory like in a way. But 1207 01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:09.319 I guess it depends on the quality of Street Fighter five. Yeah, I 1208 01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:11.760 guess. So if it comes out and feels rushed and way too similar in 1209 01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:14.279 looking style to Street Fighter four, then you just go like, well, 1210 01:14:14.279 --> 01:14:16.960 this should have been Alpha four or definitely yeah, yeah, I don't know. 1211 01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:19.720 I mean the relative haste that they announced to five, and also like 1212 01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:24.279 things we're hearing about that deal or just the fact that Sony had to step 1213 01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:27.640 in like almost makes you wonder about the overall health of Capcom. I mean, 1214 01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:30.840 Monster Hund is still Monster Hund's true, you know, So maybe it's 1215 01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:32.560 just one of those cases where like you look at Street Fighter specifically and just 1216 01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:34.760 go like, wow, you know it's big, but it's not Monster Hunter. 1217 01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:38.079 But I don't know. Yeah, that's possible. But you know, 1218 01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:43.359 like they've got fuck is that free to play game? Deep down? Yep? 1219 01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:45.119 Like where is that? You know? Like? Where are these games 1220 01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:48.720 they have been making we're supposedly making? I have no idea. They announced 1221 01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:51.920 that the day the PS four was revealed. They showed it at TGS, 1222 01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:55.119 did they? I believe, So there's a new trailer. I think that's 1223 01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:57.159 where they said it was free to play, wasn't it? I think so? 1224 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.680 I don't know. I just man like the Capcom of all old where 1225 01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:03.359 is it? You know, like you know what what virus got? It? 1226 01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:06.319 Are? Those? Are? How many rising seven we'll get announced next 1227 01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:10.279 year? And how many of the people are rising we'll get announced? What 1228 01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:13.359 is already seven after what already six was? Like, I don't even know 1229 01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:16.600 if I want to see what that is? Hopefully better? I don't know, 1230 01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:23.279 but I think Capcom is like suffers from some of the same uh things 1231 01:15:23.279 --> 01:15:27.760 that Sega does to an extent where people are always talking about the old Capcom. 1232 01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:30.279 They're kind of like a slave to their legacy. Yeah, and at 1233 01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:31.239 the same time, I think a lot of the people that are part of 1234 01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:34.560 that legacy aren't with the company anymore, you know, Like it's you know, 1235 01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:38.640 I think Second gets a way worse because people are like, oh, 1236 01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:41.680 Second needs to do this and this and this, Like the people that champion 1237 01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:44.800 to those things back in the day are not there to champion them anymore or 1238 01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:47.880 have found other things to do with their fucking lives. And you know, 1239 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.840 it's you can't expect like this new generation of people to come in and just 1240 01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:55.600 immediately want to pick up the torch on all these old franchises that said. 1241 01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:58.520 Capcom is not exactly going out there and building a bunch of new ones either. 1242 01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:00.199 So yeah, that's that's for me. More, it's just kind of 1243 01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:04.000 an overall lack of output, Like where's Dragons talking with two? I feel 1244 01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:09.079 like they kind of tried, Yeah, the real question was awesome. Yeah, 1245 01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:12.720 like it wasn't a success almost like EA is kind of initiative just kind 1246 01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:15.039 of petered out. You know when they went for all those new games, 1247 01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:17.439 like yeah, I guess so you know Lost Planet, right, yeah, 1248 01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:21.359 yes, you know they're uh, you know, if you read through like 1249 01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:24.560 done with jet packs, if you read through like Capcom's financials, like the 1250 01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:28.000 way they talk about stuff like they're much more interested in like hits on the 1251 01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.680 app Store and stuff like that, like making lots of low risk, potentially 1252 01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:34.880 high success for you to play games. But because you can make, you 1253 01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:39.640 can make twenty of those not a huge random resources, and one can fund 1254 01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:42.640 and cover the development of those other twenty and other stuff. So I think, 1255 01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:45.359 you know, that's kind of the quandry a lot of you know, 1256 01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:47.199 Squaranix talks about that stuff all the time as well. You know, it's 1257 01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:50.239 probably a smarter way to do business, but it's also kind of disappointing for 1258 01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:55.439 people who grew up with the kind of big Marquis Capcom franchise. It's disappointing 1259 01:16:55.439 --> 01:16:58.039 for me that we're talking about a brand new street Fighter in such a somber 1260 01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.439 tone. That's because how bad off the company is, right, Yeah, 1261 01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:03.880 they didn't make you wait for it. Yeah, yeah, you never had 1262 01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:06.520 time to want it because it's always been there, right, at this point. 1263 01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:11.119 Yeah, yeah, it just feels like last week that we did that 1264 01:17:11.159 --> 01:17:15.359 last quick look for whatever the fuck that last version was. Okay, Yes, 1265 01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:24.520 who likes the Vita? I love you guys, enjoy a uh coming 1266 01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:28.439 to the PlayStation Vita A whole bunch of games. I bet you played most 1267 01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:31.039 of them. But still, like you know, it was kind of it's 1268 01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:34.039 just like one after the other of just like game after game. Hey, 1269 01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:41.119 it's coming out on the Vita. Octo. Dad played it, Banner Saga, 1270 01:17:41.399 --> 01:17:47.159 Bastion. I played it on my Chrome browser, broken age. What 1271 01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:54.680 is that played? Half played that? Yeah, Towerful, Yeah, it's 1272 01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:58.319 a great game. Sweet coding one and or two haven't played it. I 1273 01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:01.479 played those. Yeah enough, they don't sweet coding or sweak it in. 1274 01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:05.560 I think it's sweak it in. Yeah, whatever, it would be nice. 1275 01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:11.000 I kept I was hoping that you could use your Vita as a controller 1276 01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:14.560 for TowerFall. M I wish they would add something that's not the worst idea. 1277 01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:17.239 Yeah, you know, I mean it's it's nothing super mind blowing, 1278 01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:21.239 but they're definitely getting a line up ye going for next year on that thing. 1279 01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:24.159 It's a solid yeah, I mean, you know, it's a good 1280 01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:26.880 time to have on the stuff. Yeah, the stuff they've been announcing for 1281 01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:29.880 Vita for a while now, you know, just like whether it's bringing like 1282 01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.159 lift Rousers and they're just kind of like indie games out of that platform, 1283 01:18:32.199 --> 01:18:36.039 and then what their with their own output has been has been okay as a 1284 01:18:36.079 --> 01:18:41.119 backup plan for you know, some of the smaller indie stuff like that, 1285 01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:44.760 that platform has got a reason to exist, which is more than you could 1286 01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:46.920 say about it. I've been enjoying the cross play functionality like in a rogal 1287 01:18:46.960 --> 01:18:50.439 legacy. Yeah, so I do appreciate that. I would like to play 1288 01:18:50.479 --> 01:18:54.239 through Basting again on the Vida. I think Banners saga is a good gut 1289 01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:57.600 Yes, that was kind of got an unexpected one actually that that one's pretty 1290 01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:00.600 impressive as BANNERSAA too at the game ward, Yeah, they didn't we have 1291 01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:03.600 you have you been playing you mean sticking with Freedom Wars at all? I've 1292 01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:06.600 been trying to. Yeah, I did like a stream like one Sunday for 1293 01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:11.920 like three or four hours and yeah, just still tutorial stuff streaming from a 1294 01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:16.720 PlayStation TV. Yes, but yeah, once the stuff slows down early spring, 1295 01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:18.840 I think, you know, and there's nothing else to play and you 1296 01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:26.079 dedicate it. Yeah, yeah, maybe I really wanted maybe. Wow, 1297 01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:29.760 there's a lot of crap to get through. So did they say Broken Age 1298 01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:31.479 that will be the full game? So yes, Broken Age coming to PS 1299 01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:38.720 four and Vita same day as so at like the second half basically on Okay, 1300 01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:42.079 So I guess presumable you'll you'll I hope. I don't think they clarified, 1301 01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:46.079 but I would hope you get the full game, would imagine. Yeah, 1302 01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:49.439 yeah, so that's cool. Uh. Speaking of Capcom Resident Evil Revelations 1303 01:19:49.439 --> 01:19:53.960 too coming to the Vita, I don't think that had been announced obviously. 1304 01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:59.840 Which ones that comes out in February? Yeah, that's Claire Redfield and very 1305 01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:08.800 is that what I think? Barry Barry Revelations was not great, but like 1306 01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:15.239 it was getting there better than side stories from US. Yes, parts parts 1307 01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:19.119 of Revelations really dumb and it went on too long, but like there was 1308 01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:24.319 like the framework of a good Resideval game in there. The Residuaval universe is 1309 01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:27.800 a mystery to me at this point. Has anybody here not made a Residueval 1310 01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:30.239 game at this table? I mean, Coron, that's a pretty good one. 1311 01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:33.760 Yeah, I like that part with the moth lady. Yeah, that's 1312 01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:36.159 part. I mean, you know, we were all okay with it at 1313 01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:39.680 that point, but at that point we were also sick of the fucking genre. 1314 01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:43.399 I just couldn't believe were in making the games again with I made Raccoon 1315 01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:48.159 City Stories. I was drunk. Sorry, that was a night. Yeah, 1316 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:51.159 it's a weird day. Yeah, like naked with a copy of game 1317 01:20:51.239 --> 01:21:00.359 Maker. Alright, mat of unlocking the liquors? Do you have it? 1318 01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:05.760 The letter? Uh? So more news? Uh speaking of Sony just getting 1319 01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:10.199 out there and making the deals that nobody makes anymore. Yaka's of five is 1320 01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:15.239 coming to the US. So what what Yak's five for them? That is 1321 01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:17.520 the current Well there was also Dead Souls, which was not a number of 1322 01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:23.359 the Zombe. So that's coming over, I tells coming over, came over, 1323 01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:26.560 those came over. Yeah, they speak. Yeah, I want to 1324 01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:32.000 say one through three year available in the US, did quick yeah, quickly? 1325 01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:34.520 Yeah, and I think four? Okay they made it before making out. 1326 01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:36.840 Yeah, yeah that's what it was. They were on sale and yeah 1327 01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:41.520 they put them on But yeah, like, is that just Sony paying for 1328 01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:45.319 the localization of Yaka's A five? Probably, I don't know, Like it's 1329 01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:47.800 it's you know, they often talk about you know that you you heard them 1330 01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:50.520 mentioning it, almost like they were proud of it in a way and wanted 1331 01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:54.239 to make sure it got mentioned in part of this stuff as like our third 1332 01:21:54.279 --> 01:21:59.800 party production unit is working on and that seems to be like they're like their 1333 01:22:00.039 --> 01:22:03.079 solution to a lot of problems in term when it comes to like making things 1334 01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:05.840 happen that wouldn't happen otherwise, as they just go, well, we'll fucking 1335 01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:10.800 do it, which is cool. Yeah, it's awesome, Like it's crazy, 1336 01:22:12.079 --> 01:22:14.159 but it seems like the right way to handle it, especially when you 1337 01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:15.680 get to these things that you know, I'm sure like I'm some love it. 1338 01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:18.119 They must crunch the numbers on something like Yakuza five and go like, 1339 01:22:18.199 --> 01:22:20.920 well, we know if we can turn a profit on this because the game 1340 01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:25.000 is done, localization will cost this. We know we can project We're not 1341 01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:27.760 going to do voice actors. Yeah, we just need to subtitling. Assume 1342 01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:30.880 it's assumed that that's yeah, they've been doing that for a while yea, 1343 01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.199 yeah, since the first one. Kind of what Atlas was doing for a 1344 01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:35.800 long time, just bring himself over and localizing it, Yeah, sort of 1345 01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:39.199 kind of you know, but you know, like for Sony to just go 1346 01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:43.119 like, well, you know, we're gonna be our own best, uh, 1347 01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:45.359 you know, fighter for these platforms. Like you know, like you 1348 01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:46.479 think about all that stuff that shows up on the Vida, it wouldn't happen 1349 01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:49.039 if they didn't have a team of people out there fighting to get it on 1350 01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:51.920 there. Yeah, if you look, I mean in all like the vast 1351 01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:56.800 majority of cases of like indie cross by games on Vita, Yeah, there's 1352 01:22:56.840 --> 01:23:00.399 an extra developer logo and like the line up of credits at the beginning. 1353 01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:03.960 Yeah, and then because they're Sony pays for those yeah right, and they 1354 01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:06.079 don't like you know, there's a lot of the way those deals are structured 1355 01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:10.800 is that, you know, the Sony approach is an independent developers saying like 1356 01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:14.079 we'd like to bring your game to beat MPs four and they're like and they're 1357 01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:16.039 like, we're not. We don't have the money or the people engineering. 1358 01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:18.399 You know, Like for example, like a lot of these games that are 1359 01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:21.520 made in like GameMaker and stuff, like we're like prior to getting native PS 1360 01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:25.039 four Sport, it's just like they do not have the ability to to do 1361 01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:27.760 that. So Sony just says they already have studios to sign, like hey, 1362 01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:30.159 it's you know, like Curve Digital and studios that are good at some 1363 01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:33.800 other one that's done a couple of anyways in the Galaxy Abstraction, Yeah, 1364 01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:36.359 that's yeah, but like Abstraction did Legacy. Yeah, basically, they just 1365 01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:39.600 show up. They say we'll pay for it. You get you know, 1366 01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:42.319 cut of the profits, and but Sony does all of the heavy lifting. 1367 01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:44.600 So a lot of these are not like developers psych for Sony. I mean 1368 01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:46.800 they're psyched, but they're Sony's approaching them with like a deal. You just 1369 01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:51.600 literally connect psych because they're getting rescued. Every single question gets answered. Or 1370 01:23:53.159 --> 01:23:55.800 that's what that's the impression I get is that developers might come in and go, 1371 01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:57.119 oh, well we can't do it. We can't. It's like, 1372 01:23:57.199 --> 01:24:00.159 well we could do it, and we'll give you this much money, Like 1373 01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:01.279 how about we just let us give us you give you some free money, 1374 01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:03.800 we'll put your game on our platform. Because they have these studios that that 1375 01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:08.399 Sony's already you know, partnered with, that have become very they really understand 1376 01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:12.319 the Sony infrastructure and they understand all these like independent engines, So it's really 1377 01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:15.399 like for those guys and a miniscule amount of work to get up and running, 1378 01:24:15.439 --> 01:24:19.239 and it benefits everybody and it's really smart crazy party, especially even how 1379 01:24:19.279 --> 01:24:24.439 bad their first party output is right now, Yeah, the party team is 1380 01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:27.520 you know, that's one thing you could take away from the PlayStation experience was 1381 01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:30.239 like lots of really interesting like third party announce but like what's like the Order. 1382 01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:33.600 The Order like a half game, now, you know what the hell 1383 01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:36.520 like? That game comes out in February and the part they chose to show 1384 01:24:36.680 --> 01:24:41.960 was like a crappy corridor, bad looking Gears of War section. It's like 1385 01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:44.359 that's and then fill it full of cut scenes. You know, that's a 1386 01:24:44.439 --> 01:24:46.039 quick time events. It's kind of just what they've that's showing. Yeah, 1387 01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:48.359 that's that's what it looked like at E three. Also, like, you 1388 01:24:48.399 --> 01:24:53.279 know, the part I played back then was very pretty, very pretty like 1389 01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:56.720 aggressive, and you know, the weapon design was interesting and stuff, but 1390 01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:58.640 at the core of it, it was like, well, this is kind 1391 01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:01.319 of like a weird cover. This is you just you guys made a cover 1392 01:25:01.359 --> 01:25:05.720 shooter with slightly weird guns, Like I don't this isn't that demo E three 1393 01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:12.079 was maybe ten minutes long total. If if that, Yeah, the order 1394 01:25:12.239 --> 01:25:15.359 is a huge question mark, I think for sure. But I feel like 1395 01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:16.720 you could say that about a lot of Sony's first part. I mean there's 1396 01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:19.920 stuff that, like, you know, Uncharted obviously has a huge track record, 1397 01:25:20.239 --> 01:25:24.399 a massive track record of being incredible, and stuff like three maybe not 1398 01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:27.600 so much. But you know, like it's a safe bet that that's going 1399 01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:31.079 to be a pretty good game. I would think. They they announced that 1400 01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:35.159 they're gonna do a new God of War. Yeah, I was talking about 1401 01:25:35.199 --> 01:25:38.760 it on Twitter. Uh and like you know, he was, you know, 1402 01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:41.399 the lead on Got to War two, which is probably the best God 1403 01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:43.560 of War game, that one. I mean, yeah, that that one 1404 01:25:43.840 --> 01:25:46.239 is a little Yeah, I just never liked God of War. Sure, 1405 01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:48.640 so that's if you like gout of War, which I do. Yeah, 1406 01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:51.600 like two two is the one. Yeah, Like I don't know that they 1407 01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:55.319 should be making another God of War. That's a bigger question. But but 1408 01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:58.640 yeah, why not? And if they do, they need to do something 1409 01:25:58.760 --> 01:26:01.279 dramatically and then like you know what Japan doing, is it all hands on 1410 01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:06.239 deck? Yeah, not a fucking peep about that game at this thing. 1411 01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:11.479 Yeah, if they are going to actually do that that you probably don't do 1412 01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:15.520 it here. Oh, I mean this is the only one. The only 1413 01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:17.239 people they're running on a pose and the only people that still care about that 1414 01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:23.000 game are the diehard faithful that are paying attention to that event. So I 1415 01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:26.239 feel like that would be actually be well, it was just like when you 1416 01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:29.560 look in totality of like the announcements that event, you know, where you 1417 01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:33.800 get square to walk up on stage. Oh my god for fans. No, 1418 01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:38.079 you're blowing, you're blowing my finale here. Okay, sorry, we'll 1419 01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:43.560 get to that. Okay. Speaking of disappointing non announcements, though, remember 1420 01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:48.399 when they said PERSONA five yeah, and then proceeded to say nothing. Yes, 1421 01:26:48.720 --> 01:26:51.039 you know, I think the only the only tid bit to come out 1422 01:26:51.079 --> 01:26:55.960 of that was, if I mean interpreting their wording, it sounds like it's 1423 01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:58.800 coming out in North America after the Japanese release. Yeah, which that that 1424 01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:00.840 was no, But I want to say that they hadn't necessarily confirmed PS four 1425 01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:04.479 for North America. Really, Uh, they never actually said the world yeah, 1426 01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:09.520 yes, yeah, it was PS three and then they're like it's coming 1427 01:27:09.520 --> 01:27:11.560 to PS four. Also, I didn't I think this is the follow up 1428 01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:15.760 saying like that one's coming over to a duh. That was always just assumed 1429 01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:16.720 for me. Yeah, yeah, you know, I think that was just 1430 01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:18.840 one of those things where that's you know, they're probably looking at like, 1431 01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:23.520 well, what could we announced that this thing in December, which is a 1432 01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:26.479 weird time to hold this show. Yeah, you know that that's just one 1433 01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:30.039 word. I just might as well mention it show a piece of art or 1434 01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:31.840 something. Well, that's up to Atlas at some point, right, I 1435 01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:34.520 mean, that's a big reveal. But you're Sony, You've you've got some 1436 01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:38.239 pull, you know, and you need to get some concept like Jack Frost, 1437 01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:41.479 don't you know, Like that's that's a popular franchise in Japan. Like 1438 01:27:41.640 --> 01:27:45.880 I think I feel like showing significant stuff in the US first would be like 1439 01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:48.880 you show a character you're giving your hand away. It's a bear, he's 1440 01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:54.199 got a zipper around his head. Hug. I can't let the competition see 1441 01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:57.119 what you're cooking up. Yeah, it'll play that one close to the vest 1442 01:27:57.680 --> 01:28:00.319 because I assume it's got to be all new. It's gotta be they've said 1443 01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:02.960 it basically, right, that's how they do those. Yeah, So like, 1444 01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:08.079 well that's sometimes they'll bring in Yeah, like a little reference. It's 1445 01:28:08.159 --> 01:28:11.239 like a sixty year old Chia shows up at some point, Yeah and kicks 1446 01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:15.399 him. Ask takes place in the far fork tank into somebody. It's like 1447 01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:18.279 ten Chi a clones show up and you have to fight him. All right, 1448 01:28:18.760 --> 01:28:27.439 they're taking you. So yes, Katamari Demassi creator Kata Takahashi came out, 1449 01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:32.000 so should sort of reveal that he's Japanese your project? Yes? What 1450 01:28:32.079 --> 01:28:34.159 did he say? He said? He said, I'm Jeff, he said 1451 01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:38.880 he he came out and he basically said hello, I'm Japanese, and it 1452 01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:43.279 only got reverder from there. He is made one of my favorite human beings. 1453 01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.000 The best thing about that whole segment was confirming to me that he is 1454 01:28:47.199 --> 01:28:50.000 exactly as weird as he would expect him to be to have made that game. 1455 01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:53.520 Why was he holding a fork? Was holding a plastic fork the whole 1456 01:28:53.560 --> 01:28:57.760 time? He's probably eaten backstage and then like twirling around at various points. 1457 01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:04.760 So while his partner was Robin Huna, that game company uh and is So 1458 01:29:04.840 --> 01:29:09.119 I'm not clear what the business arrangement is. Do they do they co found 1459 01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:12.880 a studio or it's not funen Yes, phenomenal, yes, okay, yeah, 1460 01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:15.680 and she's been there. I mean the two of them started it together. 1461 01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:17.880 Okay, yeah, they basic based on la like basically after Journey shipped, 1462 01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:23.319 you know, released, uh like everyone but jenovichen like Chris Bell, 1463 01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:27.520 who's one of the prison designers on Journey is working on that new game from 1464 01:29:27.720 --> 01:29:33.119 Giant Sparrow, Vanishing of what remains of Finch. Yes so yeah. But 1465 01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:36.479 anyway, while while Robin was giving the whole spiel about the game, he 1466 01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:44.039 was like sort of rotating on his feet in the doing whirl perfect just like 1467 01:29:44.199 --> 01:29:46.960 he just he seemed like, you know, an overstimulated six year old that 1468 01:29:47.039 --> 01:29:49.840 just had nothing to do with himself. So he was just having fun by 1469 01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:54.520 himself. So it was it was wildly entertaining. What's the game? I 1470 01:29:54.520 --> 01:29:57.680 don't know. It's it's a little block with a hat that blows out him. 1471 01:29:57.880 --> 01:30:00.680 He's a mayor, okay, the mayor of the It's in detail that 1472 01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:01.760 I was able to pick up is that he is apparently a mayor of some 1473 01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:05.760 kind. Okay, Like it looked like I don't remember. Is that kid's 1474 01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:10.079 book called like Happy World. There's some kind of world captain underpants. Captain 1475 01:30:10.159 --> 01:30:13.680 Underpants goes outside and then puts on a hap it puts on a different happen. 1476 01:30:13.720 --> 01:30:15.960 He's got a bomb, but they're all the same hats the same man. 1477 01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:17.520 And then he goes outside and here an explosion go off, and that 1478 01:30:17.640 --> 01:30:21.319 was it? Whimsical? Were those rough? Were those even video game graphics 1479 01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:24.560 or was that like a I mean they seem like they could, but it 1480 01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:27.800 was that like a papercraft stop motion thing, like I'm not sure that looked 1481 01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:30.880 like video game. Was that a video game? Yeah? Yeah, no, 1482 01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:33.439 no indication of what that game is though, says on the PlayStation blog. 1483 01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:38.079 Ever, this game came from when Keto was playing with his two year 1484 01:30:38.079 --> 01:30:42.840 old son and wondered about what if all toys lived and were connected to one 1485 01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:45.039 another. It'd be such a fun world to explore and play with the word 1486 01:30:45.439 --> 01:30:48.159 should watch? Yeah? Is that? How do we know? How? 1487 01:30:51.159 --> 01:30:56.640 Like what tam I would wattam itself is actually composed of the word the mule 1488 01:30:57.119 --> 01:30:59.800 and Japanese words were making a circle or making loops. So I guess like 1489 01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:02.600 it might be a multiplayer game in whichever one was connected in some fashion, 1490 01:31:02.640 --> 01:31:06.399 which like if you look at Noby Noby boy. Yeah, he is interested 1491 01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:11.680 in like asynchronous what's a girl up to these? Yeah? I don't know. 1492 01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:18.319 Girls. Huge got me the only person I know. He still does 1493 01:31:18.399 --> 01:31:23.159 that as Brandon Boyer updates on Twitter every couple of weeks with an update. 1494 01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:28.600 Noby Noby boy, this iPhone. There's a spacecraft pushing Pluto. Yeah, 1495 01:31:28.920 --> 01:31:33.039 in real life, in our world, and Pluto's a planet again? Right, 1496 01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:40.840 No, I have they changed back. It's still they were reclassifying a 1497 01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:44.760 thing. Actually and I were talking. They were talking that there might actually 1498 01:31:44.840 --> 01:31:49.239 be a couple of planet bodies outside beyond Pluto even uh, sort of existing 1499 01:31:49.279 --> 01:31:55.239 in some other gravitational orbits you met in our solar system. But further out 1500 01:31:55.279 --> 01:31:58.039 are you talking about and are you talking about the Kaiper Belt or the Orc 1501 01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:00.600 Cloud. I don't know it might even be. I don't know if it's 1502 01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:03.039 within or outside of that, but it's it's dayne Kuyper doesn't wear a belt. 1503 01:32:03.279 --> 01:32:06.560 It's kind of does near the citadel, but not quite as far as 1504 01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:10.000 the citadel. But Pluto is still not on a planet. No, it's 1505 01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.920 not get your ship together, science. It did. That was the whole 1506 01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:15.159 point of reclass five. Nope, all right, science is hard man. 1507 01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:20.920 Moving on more stuff coming to PS four. Anybody remember Darkest Dungeon Nope, 1508 01:32:21.239 --> 01:32:27.079 the side scrolling sort of strategy RPG with the rosy psychological effects, Like, 1509 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:33.279 yeah, got that amazing, like still art style. What's that? Is 1510 01:32:33.319 --> 01:32:39.199 it turning wiggly wiggly like Waight animates? Yeah? Maybe? What am I 1511 01:32:39.239 --> 01:32:41.600 thinking? It? Wiggly is not how I would describe it. It's a 1512 01:32:41.640 --> 01:32:43.920 bunch of like two D it's like still art, but they like kind of 1513 01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:47.600 animate the limbs like never ending nightmare ish flat. Oh it looks so good 1514 01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:51.760 and then like the people get like scared of dark and like scared of zombies 1515 01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:56.479 and stuff like that. People. Yeah, okay, oh yeah, that's 1516 01:32:56.520 --> 01:33:00.560 coming to PS four. Only I don't think this would beta. That's earlier 1517 01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:03.199 today while we were while we are podcasting that it's really accessed on February third. 1518 01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:06.039 Oh shit, awesome, Okay, great, Yeah, they had I 1519 01:33:06.039 --> 01:33:09.319 think they've been shooting for by the end of the year, but that's not 1520 01:33:09.439 --> 01:33:13.279 too far off. I guess I thought it packs. It looks Yeah, 1521 01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:16.079 we've seen that at multiple packs as the at least one of the developers as 1522 01:33:16.319 --> 01:33:19.439 a fan of the site, and it looks fantastic. So take everything we 1523 01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:26.359 say with Green soult obviously, uh, super Time Force. What's the only 1524 01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:31.039 thing that Coulture better? If they put an executive from Sony and I guess 1525 01:33:31.319 --> 01:33:33.680 sure that sounds about right. I'm not sure how to feel about that. 1526 01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:38.239 Close the loop on this crazy shit man bucket, I guess go for bro 1527 01:33:39.880 --> 01:33:42.960 do whatever makes you happy. I mean, you know, short of Jack 1528 01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:45.119 Trenton, I guess shoot Yaheta is a pretty good person to put in there, 1529 01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:49.359 Jack or a boss. Oh yeah, they're not gonna get his rights. 1530 01:33:49.479 --> 01:33:51.800 Yeah, so they're adding him to this, to the super Time Force. 1531 01:33:51.920 --> 01:33:55.840 And doesn't he shoot Twitter? Like shoots? Yeah, he shoots. 1532 01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:58.720 We've tried to get the Jack Tretton rights in the past. It's very difficult, 1533 01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:01.319 it's true. Yeah, he associations ongoing yep, yeah, yeah, 1534 01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:04.840 yeah, he shoots like hashtags and stuff out of his phone. Sure in 1535 01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:08.760 that game? Uh yeah, sure. I don't know. It's weird. 1536 01:34:09.680 --> 01:34:11.960 What if that's a funny include, like you know, included character for the 1537 01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:17.960 Sony universe. It's like Vibery Nope, shuyasha. It makes me wonder sometimes 1538 01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:21.399 like stuff like this, Like I always feel like you know, the executives 1539 01:34:21.439 --> 01:34:26.479 at video game companies or like, like, the audience that's aware of that 1540 01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:29.560 is very small. Yeah, but if they're making it into video games as 1541 01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:32.039 characters. Now, let's think about the audience for a game like Super Time 1542 01:34:32.079 --> 01:34:34.720 for it's fair, you know, and and you know, the people that 1543 01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:39.920 are care enough about games to care about them all big and small. The 1544 01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:43.319 ones that care that much are a little more likely to be connected, are 1545 01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:46.600 a little more likely to understand why putting shoo Yashita in a video game is 1546 01:34:46.720 --> 01:34:51.680 pretty fucking incredible slash insane? Why not? Sure, but they're doing a 1547 01:34:51.720 --> 01:34:57.640 pretty good job with rebranding. Like, they're making themselves look fun, They're 1548 01:34:57.680 --> 01:35:00.119 making themselves, they're making them be irrelevant. They're doing a really I think 1549 01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:04.640 they're doing pretty like Like I think the like the parody between two Friends videos 1550 01:35:04.720 --> 01:35:09.920 were a bit much because it's like, you're parodying a comedy thing. Yeah, 1551 01:35:10.159 --> 01:35:14.039 some kind of a comedy thing for yourself. A little that's that's rough. 1552 01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:18.399 But yeah, by and large, they've been pretty good. Sure that 1553 01:35:18.920 --> 01:35:23.359 a lot of that stuff. Uh. The last thing I got on here 1554 01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:28.279 is what remains of Edith Finch The Grantsparer game. Who made the unfinished Swan? 1555 01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:31.520 Yeah? What is that, you finch? I don't I watched the 1556 01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:35.439 trailer. I don't know what that is. Probably some sort of esoteric adventure 1557 01:35:35.479 --> 01:35:39.960 game. Yes, there's some kind of mystery guns could be another fucking walking 1558 01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:42.319 simulator. How is that the only thing you have? Man? The last 1559 01:35:42.319 --> 01:35:45.640 thing you have? Wait, hang on, fucking Day of the Tentacle is 1560 01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:47.680 kind of god, that's right, that's right, that will Yeah. Also 1561 01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:53.039 we need to get indignitated about final fancy. Sorry, I've also entered the 1562 01:35:53.079 --> 01:35:55.319 gungeon. Oh god, all right, I'm sorry. I had to put 1563 01:35:55.359 --> 01:35:59.119 this list. Uh oh, you know what I skipped over? I skipped 1564 01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:00.439 over those those were further up the list. But I was trying to go 1565 01:36:00.560 --> 01:36:03.399 in somewhat chromolaunch quarter. All right, where do you want to start Day 1566 01:36:03.399 --> 01:36:06.439 of the Tentacle? Cool? Great announcement, So but what is it? 1567 01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:10.560 I thought? Yeah, so I thought they called a special edition, So 1568 01:36:10.640 --> 01:36:13.880 that what they're going because they can't they can like redraw the art. They 1569 01:36:13.960 --> 01:36:17.520 did have to. I think they are because I think there was some implication 1570 01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:20.479 that like a lot of the art was hand drawn to begin with, so 1571 01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:23.600 you almost could just say, well, what if they scanned it in a 1572 01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:27.359 higher resolution. But uh oh, you're saying that this stuff you see on 1573 01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:30.199 the screen was hand drawn and drawn and scanned in Yeah, huh, I 1574 01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:32.560 don't know. I just wonder how that game would look if it weren't all 1575 01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:36.520 pixelate. So we couldn't they just redraw one to one so that they can 1576 01:36:36.720 --> 01:36:40.359 fit modern aspect ratios, like it would still be a four three games. 1577 01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:43.479 They just it would be. Well, how it's Grim Fandango. So that's 1578 01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:45.000 where all of it. No, that's where I got tripped up on this. 1579 01:36:45.199 --> 01:36:48.159 So before the day of the technicalle announcement, they showed in the trailer 1580 01:36:48.239 --> 01:36:53.039 for Grim Fandango, and the wording there is remastered, right, Grim Fandango 1581 01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:57.479 remastered. The characters look like nice and modern and like high res with nice 1582 01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:01.439 lighting applied, but the backgrounds to be the backgrounds yea from the original game 1583 01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:03.479 yep. So like, if you look closely, it's like these nice, 1584 01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:08.760 clean characters. Yeah, on kind of a pixelated, like not super modern 1585 01:37:08.840 --> 01:37:13.800 looking background was a little jarring. So after I came to that realization, 1586 01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:15.800 I was like, well, maybe this data the technical thing is not as 1587 01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:19.119 exciting as it sounds. But like you could You've got an older game, 1588 01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:21.479 so maybe they have to do more art. I think you could do the 1589 01:37:21.520 --> 01:37:27.520 void the audio, get clean audio, right, Yeah, they hire if 1590 01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:30.119 it exists, if they still and then tweak the controls so you do context 1591 01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:34.239 sensitive stuff so it's not as scum engineer, so that it's you know, 1592 01:37:34.359 --> 01:37:38.199 you can maybe have direct control. I mean it's all two D stuff, 1593 01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:42.960 so it's it's a little funky. Yeah, like maybe you're not moving a 1594 01:37:43.079 --> 01:37:46.079 mouse on the screen on a console. May they did that Monkey Island maintained 1595 01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:50.119 the the mouse control stuff, like it was just mapped to the analog stick. 1596 01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:54.600 It's doable, and it was fine. It's a great adventure game, 1597 01:37:54.640 --> 01:37:56.840 and I'm happy that more people will get the chance. I've never played it. 1598 01:37:56.960 --> 01:37:59.560 Yeah, I got in the shape for train later than its great. 1599 01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:01.560 Then is that one of them? Is that Schaeffer Like I always feel like, 1600 01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:04.880 I mean, wasn't Ron Gilbert still around at that point? I don't 1601 01:38:04.920 --> 01:38:08.239 really keep track of the lineage that that one. That one always gets a 1602 01:38:08.279 --> 01:38:15.239 little muddy for me because like maybe his like debut, I've always Thoughtful Throttle 1603 01:38:15.279 --> 01:38:17.720 was Tim Shaffer's first like proper game maybe, but I think here. He 1604 01:38:17.760 --> 01:38:20.079 definitely worked on Technacle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was around. 1605 01:38:20.119 --> 01:38:24.680 But I think I always feel like, well, no, okay, Dave 1606 01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:28.640 Grossman and Tim Shaffer co led development. He's got a great credit sequence in 1607 01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:30.319 the beginning. Just watch it again. Yep, you know, cars driving 1608 01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:35.000 around, They're on their way to stupid old mansion. Yeah, maybe we'll 1609 01:38:35.039 --> 01:38:38.680 see. I mean, you know, at least at least Disney seems to 1610 01:38:38.720 --> 01:38:41.920 be open to continuing the license and stuff out or letting someone else do the 1611 01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:44.640 work license it out. Yeah, yeah, we don't give a shit about 1612 01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:46.279 this. It's almost like someone in at Disney who would be able to make 1613 01:38:46.319 --> 01:38:48.960 these kind of deals and someone Sony who would make this kind of deals used 1614 01:38:48.960 --> 01:38:55.359 to be roommates or something. That's weird. It's weird. Yeah, well, 1615 01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.760 however came about glad that it's happening. But I do, like, 1616 01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:01.319 I do really really like Grand Fandango, but that day with the tentacle announcement 1617 01:39:01.399 --> 01:39:04.600 kind of took some of the windows that and be like, well kind of 1618 01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:08.279 now just one day of the tempt Yeah, exactly like I I don't really 1619 01:39:08.520 --> 01:39:11.920 like I didn't actually play through all of Grand Fandangle to come out it was 1620 01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:15.279 kind of on the tail end of adventure games so liked. But Day of 1621 01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:17.960 the Tentacle for me is like very much like that's the Wheelhouse. That's like 1622 01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:21.680 like Maniac Mansion was so incredible, and when they made the sequel and it 1623 01:39:21.760 --> 01:39:28.880 talked that what it's fucking less Nestman from w KRP plays Bernard. This is 1624 01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:31.880 real. Yeah, it's the voice acting is really good. Oh. I 1625 01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:35.720 hope that stuff still exists. I hope Bernard to make sure that's in there. 1626 01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:38.960 Yeah. Like I said, I only ever play Sierra stuff, so 1627 01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:43.199 I'm super excited to try these classic games. Yes, if you I feel 1628 01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:45.479 like if you played Day of the Tentacle, yeah, and then look at 1629 01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:48.359 some of the Siaharra stuff, you will say, I'm pretty sure I played 1630 01:39:48.399 --> 01:39:50.560 Maniac Mansion. I don't think I ever actually played Day of the Tenant. 1631 01:39:50.760 --> 01:39:56.479 Very different games. Yeah, it's just not Zach mccrack. I'm just saying 1632 01:39:56.840 --> 01:40:00.479 you'll you might see. Lie I'm holding up for Zack mccrack and especially here 1633 01:40:00.560 --> 01:40:03.319 comes you go to Mars. Uh. Let's see. So that was the 1634 01:40:03.359 --> 01:40:08.640 Double Fine stuff. Uh, Drawn to Death? It was oh well okay, 1635 01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:11.119 yeah, so there was that final thing there was kill Strain Killster. 1636 01:40:11.239 --> 01:40:13.359 Yeah. I didn't even get too much into what that is. The guy 1637 01:40:13.399 --> 01:40:15.600 just got out on stage and said, we're making a free to play game 1638 01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:17.640 for you because you like it. It is just like it was kill Strain. 1639 01:40:17.800 --> 01:40:20.479 Kill Strain is the They didn't show it, but they're taking sign ups 1640 01:40:20.520 --> 01:40:24.079 for it, and it's a free to play game, some kind of overhead 1641 01:40:24.079 --> 01:40:27.560 shooter. It's got to be a fake video Wait, so that's a fake 1642 01:40:27.640 --> 01:40:30.560 video game killing flour two. No, that's coming to us four though they 1643 01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:33.920 know. There was this weird appeal from the guy out there announcing it. 1644 01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:36.640 It was like, you know, like before he even said anything about the 1645 01:40:36.640 --> 01:40:39.960 games. It's free to play, but it's not paid to win. It's 1646 01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:42.920 not like like just defending it before he even said what the game was. 1647 01:40:43.199 --> 01:40:45.880 Oh, that always goes over real. Well, yeah, and they're taking 1648 01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:49.399 out of sign ups and stuff. But it's just I don't know really what 1649 01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:54.199 it is, but it was just a weird. It was a very ham 1650 01:40:54.279 --> 01:40:58.600 fisted an announcement. Sure all over on that one. Uh so, yeah, 1651 01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:01.039 it's Killing four two coming to PS four or The Forest coming to POS 1652 01:41:01.039 --> 01:41:05.319 four. Just one thing after another getting announced into the gungeon. Does a 1653 01:41:05.359 --> 01:41:08.680 new announced enter the gungein. Yes, so we got to play a little 1654 01:41:08.680 --> 01:41:11.000 bit of that. Yeah, devolvers putting that out. Yeah, it looks 1655 01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:13.880 a lot like Nuclear Throne. Yeah, it controls a fair amount like nuclear 1656 01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:18.079 Throne. Yes, it is not necessarily one hundred percent nuclear throne. Oh. 1657 01:41:18.199 --> 01:41:21.439 Yes, it's a lot like Nuclear Throne. I mean, but it's 1658 01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:27.079 more of a dungeon, but a gungeon. It is a good name. 1659 01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:29.760 You're going through rooms and yeah, you're going through rooms and floors. Also, 1660 01:41:29.840 --> 01:41:31.920 most of the enemies are giant ammo. Yeah, so it's a giant 1661 01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:36.479 shotgun shell with little feet shooting a shotgun. Blast set you I had, 1662 01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:40.039 I had a bat coming out me. That was just a bullet with wing 1663 01:41:40.199 --> 01:41:43.920 with bat wings, bullet with butterfly wings, no bat wings. The world 1664 01:41:44.039 --> 01:41:47.000 is a vampire. World is a vampire. That's the truth. A grenade 1665 01:41:47.159 --> 01:41:49.479 that walks at you and you shoot it blows up. Yep. Okay. 1666 01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:51.640 You know you can walk up to tables and knock them over and use them 1667 01:41:51.680 --> 01:41:55.359 as cover and stuff like that. There's cool like it. It looks really 1668 01:41:55.439 --> 01:41:58.199 nice, Yeah it does. There's some crazy guns in it, as I 1669 01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:02.079 have expected. Nice like retropixel art, but with modern looking lighting effects on 1670 01:42:02.119 --> 01:42:08.560 it. Kind of stuff. Uh, Dodge rolls the name of the I 1671 01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:14.479 guess they're x x E A mythic. Okay, guys. The the Steam 1672 01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:17.600 build they sent the sent us for preview had like a just a gun test 1673 01:42:17.720 --> 01:42:20.479 debug thing in it. So it's just sitting there cycling through all these guns. 1674 01:42:20.960 --> 01:42:26.199 There's a gun called x Calder that just shoots swords. Uh, there's 1675 01:42:26.239 --> 01:42:29.560 a gun that is literally just a cactus that's like shooting spikes, like spines 1676 01:42:29.600 --> 01:42:31.479 everywhere. It's really dumb stuff. Yeah, it seems like it's got like 1677 01:42:31.560 --> 01:42:33.680 a lot of flavor, you know, it seems it seems like it could 1678 01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:38.960 be really cool. That seems like a cool game. I take Nuclear Thrownes 1679 01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:42.960 better just my that's my earliest that's my early assessment, all right, for 1680 01:42:43.159 --> 01:42:46.560 a game that looks a whole lot like Nuclear that's fair in a way that 1681 01:42:46.640 --> 01:42:53.840 you're like, man, you guys doing that's fair? That trailer because we 1682 01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:56.600 saw that trailer before we checked out the game, and it's like, dude, 1683 01:42:56.640 --> 01:42:59.680 what do they why are they seems kind of fucked up? The two 1684 01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:02.079 that's you know, it seems like it's got enough of its own. Yeah, 1685 01:43:02.199 --> 01:43:09.319 it's own vibe, all right. Drawn to death David Jaffee closing the 1686 01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:14.039 show, calling out cars two thousand. Oh, I forgot about that one. 1687 01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:17.000 That is a I think if it was nineteen ninety seven and Jaffee just 1688 01:43:17.039 --> 01:43:20.159 put out Twist Medal two and I was thirteen years old, I would be 1689 01:43:20.359 --> 01:43:24.840 all about drawn to death. But just watching that trailer, uh, it 1690 01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:28.960 just looks like the gameplay just seems super dated. Four players, isn't it's 1691 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.640 four player arena? Yeah? Wait really yeah? And some and some of 1692 01:43:31.680 --> 01:43:34.239 them. I guess that, you know, restricting the player count is kind 1693 01:43:34.279 --> 01:43:36.760 of an interesting idea. So wait, is it? Is it four player 1694 01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:41.720 co op versus AI? I think it's four players against each other. They're 1695 01:43:41.760 --> 01:43:45.039 more on four. What was that shitty anarchy rains that sega? Yeah, 1696 01:43:46.119 --> 01:43:50.000 that was kind of question I got and all in that that game was black 1697 01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:54.239 and white? Right now? Do you think Mad World? Think the guy 1698 01:43:54.279 --> 01:43:56.920 from Mad World is in anarchy? Okay, yeah, that's the beat him 1699 01:43:56.960 --> 01:44:00.399 up? That was two years ago. But then it was also it was 1700 01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:02.000 like, was Bayonetta in that? No? But it Platinum made it? 1701 01:44:02.600 --> 01:44:05.680 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, good kids, It's not good at all. 1702 01:44:05.720 --> 01:44:08.680 That's of this reminded me. Yeah, and it's also to be like 1703 01:44:08.720 --> 01:44:11.960 you're inside the notebook of like the kid from the Pearl Jam Jeremy video and 1704 01:44:12.079 --> 01:44:14.159 ye like it said like wait did they say that? I thought they just 1705 01:44:14.199 --> 01:44:16.880 said thirteen year old kids? Like that was the gist of it. Yeah, 1706 01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:23.600 like the violent stuff and it was troubled kid kah yeah, and just 1707 01:44:23.680 --> 01:44:26.239 a lot of scribblings from whatever. And it doesn't look I mean, I 1708 01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:29.680 think the last time a game was pitched with that premise was brutal Legend and 1709 01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:31.159 I was way into that stuff. Like, I don't know, this does 1710 01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:35.439 not seem like the notebook scribblings that I want. The game looks bad too. 1711 01:44:35.800 --> 01:44:38.880 Nothing about it looks interesting, Like I don't think the art. I 1712 01:44:38.920 --> 01:44:42.439 don't think they pull off the art style that they're going for. Probably something 1713 01:44:42.479 --> 01:44:46.119 like Mad World has done like a similar like just you know, graphical treatment. 1714 01:44:46.239 --> 01:44:48.560 Yeah better, ye know, Well that was the impression I got. 1715 01:44:48.680 --> 01:44:51.199 This is this is a real snap judgment. But I don't know that like 1716 01:44:51.840 --> 01:44:56.399 wallpapering everything with just like notebook lines, Yeah, it was the way to 1717 01:44:56.479 --> 01:44:58.359 go. You know. I kind of have that stuff on the margins, 1718 01:44:58.399 --> 01:45:00.399 but still sort of give a reality the thing. It feels random in a 1719 01:45:00.439 --> 01:45:03.720 way that it doesn't come across as like a cohesive aesthetic. You know, 1720 01:45:03.800 --> 01:45:06.840 we stalked, so I think O'Dwyer played it okay, you know we should 1721 01:45:06.880 --> 01:45:10.680 we should ask him kind of what he thought about it. But yeah, 1722 01:45:10.800 --> 01:45:13.159 just going off that trailer and some of the other stuff they were showing, 1723 01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:15.199 Yeah, it seems like a lot of clothes. You know, they're they're 1724 01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:17.560 they're making a big you know, it says pre alpha and big letters on 1725 01:45:17.600 --> 01:45:20.600 the corner of the screen at all times, so they're trying to be clear 1726 01:45:20.720 --> 01:45:24.359 that it's not done. But that's another thing. They're taking sign ups for 1727 01:45:24.760 --> 01:45:28.560 their website somewhere for that. I think the I hadn't heard this. I 1728 01:45:28.600 --> 01:45:30.479 don't know if that had gotten out before, but I think the bigger news 1729 01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:32.680 was David Jeffe's company name. Yes, oh yeah, that's been that's been 1730 01:45:32.680 --> 01:45:34.880 around. They've been around. I think I might have heard it, but 1731 01:45:35.159 --> 01:45:39.880 I feel it. Yeah, what is it? It's the Bartla god something 1732 01:45:39.960 --> 01:45:45.520 detective agency or Bartlett. Yeah, James detective agents have to figure this out 1733 01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:53.199 now, vanishing of Detective Bartlett. What remains are President Bartlett? How long 1734 01:45:53.319 --> 01:45:56.199 can this take? It seems like a lot of forced edginess, and it 1735 01:45:56.359 --> 01:45:59.880 were like every time you shoot the shotguns, fuck you. Yeah, it's 1736 01:46:00.279 --> 01:46:04.159 like fuck you on the screen. And so, yeah, it's David. 1737 01:46:04.359 --> 01:46:10.319 It's that kind of Yeah, it kind of feels maybe it's being it feels 1738 01:46:10.319 --> 01:46:13.279 like an old guy trying to be cool. Yeah, well, I mean 1739 01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:15.640 I doubt you know, I don't think he's I think that's true David putting 1740 01:46:15.640 --> 01:46:19.159 on an act. Yeah, like I think it's David Jaffee. I guess 1741 01:46:19.199 --> 01:46:21.800 this just isn't cool then, But you know, I don't think he's like 1742 01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:25.039 putting on a show. No, I'm not saying he's being fake, but 1743 01:46:25.439 --> 01:46:28.000 you can be out of touch. Yeah, it'll be like John Romero coming 1744 01:46:28.039 --> 01:46:30.000 out and making like a new Doom in exactly the same way that Doom was 1745 01:46:30.079 --> 01:46:34.680 doomed? What's wrong with that? And I don't know that sounds appreciated you 1746 01:46:34.760 --> 01:46:39.239 with the stomach until you just plug. Are you saying that Drawn to Death 1747 01:46:39.399 --> 01:46:42.000 is trying to make me it's bitch? Is that what you're going for? 1748 01:46:42.760 --> 01:46:46.920 That was that was coverage of you know, uh, the Bartlett Jones Supernatural 1749 01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:50.680 detective agencies name the name of his studio, right, and so for the 1750 01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:54.399 first game from that studio to be that, it's like, man, that 1751 01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:57.600 is entirely they were gonna announce the game and it was just gonna be called 1752 01:46:57.640 --> 01:47:00.159 the same name as the studio. You'd be like, all right, like 1753 01:47:00.239 --> 01:47:02.640 jab Harold's Murder Club back. I thought they make you like a like like 1754 01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:06.119 a Ghostbusters type thing, and like because he's done, he does. He 1755 01:47:06.199 --> 01:47:11.159 does actual ghost hunting in his spare time, like he does. Why didn't 1756 01:47:11.159 --> 01:47:15.119 he make that game? Oh yeah, oh god, yeah, you're right. 1757 01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:18.000 I can't read this. This is too weird. He should have just 1758 01:47:18.079 --> 01:47:21.039 made an FMV game of all that I know, his own, like cam 1759 01:47:21.199 --> 01:47:25.960 Quarter Experience and then like night Trap just like Push Left. Oh no, 1760 01:47:26.079 --> 01:47:29.920 jeffy ye. So wait, he's doing ghost hunting for real. Yeah, 1761 01:47:29.960 --> 01:47:31.479 he's doing it his spare time for money. I mean, I guess, 1762 01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:33.680 I don't know if he's actually making money at it, but he's doing it. 1763 01:47:33.920 --> 01:47:38.319 Here is a quote from him in this Polygon story. This is from 1764 01:47:38.359 --> 01:47:40.199 a while back. I think this is hang on only double check. I 1765 01:47:40.239 --> 01:47:42.800 think this is when he first It's when I got founded. Yes, this 1766 01:47:42.920 --> 01:47:46.640 is This is from September when he first like announced the studio. Here's this 1767 01:47:46.760 --> 01:47:49.880 quote. Hang on, scroll back to it. We have a publisher and 1768 01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:54.600 checks from the publisher that funday percentage of the company. The rest comes from 1769 01:47:54.640 --> 01:48:00.359 Bartlett is about drawn to death. It's just about like how they're paying to 1770 01:48:00.439 --> 01:48:05.560 make this game. Okay, David Jaffee and company. Okay, David Jaffe 1771 01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:10.279 is hunting ghosts. So it seems to me that there was some kind of 1772 01:48:10.319 --> 01:48:14.079 hook in that thing he kept talking about that was the world would evolve or 1773 01:48:14.319 --> 01:48:18.640 something like the stuff about evolving world. You'll learn stuff about the boy who's 1774 01:48:18.680 --> 01:48:21.720 drawing this, because you'll see him scribbling about his girl friend and his parents 1775 01:48:21.800 --> 01:48:27.039 and like the environment, and so you'll learn about this character this it's a 1776 01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:30.920 young fred Durst. I'm sure it contains multitudes. You know, he'll be 1777 01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:34.760 a fascinating personality to uncover. Actually, if fred Durst is doing like vo 1778 01:48:34.840 --> 01:48:40.039 for this, even more interested. Ye. So yeah, but that was 1779 01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:43.119 not to me. The craziest thing about that press conference, was it, 1780 01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:45.880 Well, I only have one more thing. So was it the same thing 1781 01:48:45.119 --> 01:48:47.760 that I'm thinking it might be the same thing? Was it fine? Fantasy? 1782 01:48:47.840 --> 01:48:53.399 It was the biggest repeal and then holy ship biggest fucking like that went 1783 01:48:53.479 --> 01:48:57.079 over. Well, oh my god, have I have? I never been 1784 01:48:57.199 --> 01:49:00.960 more glad to be following along on Neo gabs as a live stream goes along, 1785 01:49:01.279 --> 01:49:05.840 Like at this point, is it like these live reactions from people losing 1786 01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:11.159 their shit? I really I was then losing their ship. I was watching 1787 01:49:11.239 --> 01:49:14.920 with Patrick. And then at some point they're showing the final Fantasy seven uh 1788 01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:16.840 in set graphic, you know, they're showing the gameplay inside the thing. 1789 01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:19.439 He's like, this is it isn't it? No, No, it's not 1790 01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:23.239 gonna blow out. Was like, no, it's gonna it's gonna get bigger. 1791 01:49:23.279 --> 01:49:26.680 And then like they're gonna like cook cross face. He's like the after 1792 01:49:28.199 --> 01:49:30.079 and then it's like like they bring out, you know, the guy from 1793 01:49:30.119 --> 01:49:34.199 Square like Japan, like the actual Square in Japan, they brought out the 1794 01:49:34.239 --> 01:49:41.279 actual Square as opposed to I mean, he wanted some random producer like he's 1795 01:49:41.319 --> 01:49:44.800 like the guy. What I mean is like a lot of times these days, 1796 01:49:44.840 --> 01:49:48.600 Square nix effectively means idos right Square like the Western Square innex that's making 1797 01:49:48.640 --> 01:49:53.000 idost type games. But you know what I mean is like here is a 1798 01:49:53.079 --> 01:49:56.439 an announcement from the Japanese arm of Square. And then he's all, it's 1799 01:49:56.479 --> 01:50:02.079 been seventeen years and just immediately like like no, there are they really finally 1800 01:50:02.119 --> 01:50:05.119 gonna do it? Are they finally gonna do it? Oh, he's a 1801 01:50:05.239 --> 01:50:10.439 port of the PC version And he said that, he said straight upset. 1802 01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:13.239 It was like as if that was something to be excited about. It's like 1803 01:50:13.359 --> 01:50:15.640 we're reporting. I don't remember how he phrased it, but it's like, 1804 01:50:15.720 --> 01:50:19.680 here's the superior PC version. Goodness, here's the here's the version of record 1805 01:50:19.760 --> 01:50:25.199 of Final Fantasy seven. And then afterwards when he like did the forced generation 1806 01:50:25.239 --> 01:50:28.479 of applause, you could kind of tell us like a yeah, yeah, 1807 01:50:28.600 --> 01:50:32.319 it was real Marth applause just real, yeah, just squeing. Wow. 1808 01:50:32.560 --> 01:50:36.479 That was incredible. That was That might have been the moment of that whole 1809 01:50:36.720 --> 01:50:42.720 keynote. It was, yeah, what a bait and switch, and like, 1810 01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:45.640 yeah, there's so much but like you bring the guy out, you 1811 01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:48.680 fly the guy out, like it takes the stage. You're gonna say the 1812 01:50:48.720 --> 01:50:53.760 words Final Fantasy seven, these people's faces and then show some four by three 1813 01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:59.279 bulls in set and on a graphic and then walk off stage like fuck you, 1814 01:50:59.600 --> 01:51:02.279 Like that's great, that's incredible. You're right, yeah, Hey the 1815 01:51:02.359 --> 01:51:05.520 show was in December. You know you gotta get whatever announcement. Yeah, 1816 01:51:05.600 --> 01:51:09.319 sure, sure. He just felt like that should have been a part of 1817 01:51:09.720 --> 01:51:15.720 like when like Guo is doing like banging through announcement was coming to PS four 1818 01:51:15.720 --> 01:51:19.079 and VTA or whatever. It's somebody, somebody who planned that show must have 1819 01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:23.800 known how that was gonna go over. That's probably closed. I wonder if 1820 01:51:23.800 --> 01:51:26.640 it's just some some level people want something like that in the show, just 1821 01:51:26.800 --> 01:51:31.039 some people remember it. Maybe it's like remember it all right, a friend 1822 01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:35.239 deal between like Japanese high level businessmen that's like, oh no, we'll go 1823 01:51:35.319 --> 01:51:39.079 on stage you love fac if you're gonna love Vegas, like we'll bring it 1824 01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:41.399 out. Yeah. It's one of those things where like Japan just sends the 1825 01:51:41.439 --> 01:51:46.000 word down to the US team you're going to make fifteen minutes in your presentation 1826 01:51:46.039 --> 01:51:49.319 available to Square for their announcement of Final Fantasy seven, And you're like, 1827 01:51:49.840 --> 01:51:53.680 you know, then maybe the U S side is saying like that's not gonna 1828 01:51:53.720 --> 01:51:57.800 work and everyone's gonna hate that. You realize you're crazy, right right. 1829 01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:00.640 I don't just bring someone out and say, yes, we're making Grand Tourismo. 1830 01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:02.960 Would be a better time spent. Don't even just have someone drive out 1831 01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:06.079 in a car to say we're making a card game. That would go better, 1832 01:52:08.239 --> 01:52:13.920 like honestly, like a a drive club apology hour, Like well no, 1833 01:52:14.079 --> 01:52:16.960 we my my, I might we will have the segment that's playing like 1834 01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:20.479 okay, oh my goodness, do you guys call the shots? That's incredible? 1835 01:52:20.680 --> 01:52:23.760 Yeah, so yeah, maybe it is how it went down. I 1836 01:52:24.680 --> 01:52:30.359 don't know. Uh, yes that was. It was a thing, a 1837 01:52:30.520 --> 01:52:33.159 thing, so like yeah, I can you even do that and then have 1838 01:52:33.279 --> 01:52:36.279 a remake in like the next five years. I don't even want to remake. 1839 01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:41.159 I just want this to happen over and over. Yeah yeah, it's 1840 01:52:41.479 --> 01:52:45.560 you know who wants to play through like the sixty hour, ninety nine hours, 1841 01:52:45.600 --> 01:52:48.000 the Final Fantasy again seven and then then I'm ready. I'm ready for 1842 01:52:48.039 --> 01:52:50.520 the remake. You think they are they? Is this just a classic or 1843 01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:53.640 are they gonna like put trophies in it and put it out as like a 1844 01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:58.239 PSN release, Like I would assume that they would put it in better at 1845 01:52:58.319 --> 01:53:00.840 least put fucking trophies in it, I guess. So, yeah, was 1846 01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:02.479 vib Ribbin. Did that go into classics? That was a class that was 1847 01:53:02.520 --> 01:53:05.439 emulated? Yeah, yeah, because is a PC game, so they would 1848 01:53:05.439 --> 01:53:09.640 have I think there are didn't come to PS four because of that. I 1849 01:53:09.680 --> 01:53:12.479 think there are Steam achievements for that game. So yeah, that's true, 1850 01:53:12.520 --> 01:53:14.840 that's true. You're right, yeah, you're yeah, right, they did. 1851 01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:16.840 They did Steam. They didn't like because they put out Finally seven on 1852 01:53:16.920 --> 01:53:21.039 PC. Itdos published it right ironically, like like way back in the day, 1853 01:53:21.479 --> 01:53:26.000 and that version like was high rez but was was not particularly great. 1854 01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:30.279 Yeah, the hack like people modified it way to get in better space. 1855 01:53:30.319 --> 01:53:34.319 But they've done some significant work to get the PC version like decent okay with 1856 01:53:34.439 --> 01:53:38.399 like resolutions and what you ask if like people would would turn around and play 1857 01:53:38.479 --> 01:53:42.239 that game again, like isn't Square didn't like box Art leak out a Final 1858 01:53:42.279 --> 01:53:48.000 Fantasy ten ten to HD remaster for PS four like leak out today that yeah, 1859 01:53:48.119 --> 01:53:51.359 like you know, like clearly whether people wanted it or not, Square 1860 01:53:51.439 --> 01:53:55.960 thanks they do so, but that one, that one is is just new 1861 01:53:56.079 --> 01:53:57.680 enough that they didn't have to do that much to it. You know, 1862 01:53:57.720 --> 01:54:00.479 it's just a higher ris right totally. And but I mean, but even 1863 01:54:00.600 --> 01:54:02.279 I'm saying, like, you know, just after they brought out that on 1864 01:54:02.359 --> 01:54:05.000 p S three and other stuff, they're gonna do it for PS four. 1865 01:54:06.359 --> 01:54:12.079 Yeah, clearly the year into this level of sure, fuck it, man, 1866 01:54:12.199 --> 01:54:15.199 just put it out. Sure, sure, Just like, what does 1867 01:54:15.359 --> 01:54:18.640 a proper full on remake of Final say seven cost at this point? Well, 1868 01:54:18.720 --> 01:54:20.920 think about That's what they've said every single time. It was like, 1869 01:54:21.279 --> 01:54:26.239 what you guys want, would we can't do it? Scale of what to 1870 01:54:26.439 --> 01:54:29.760 do it would be the scale is which is so expensive five years long? 1871 01:54:29.920 --> 01:54:32.520 Like, it's the scale of the scale of that game today with modern production 1872 01:54:32.600 --> 01:54:35.920 values is like break them. I'm just imagining them building that that thing in 1873 01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:40.720 fucking Contact, the big giant fucking orb. Would they make both the nations 1874 01:54:40.920 --> 01:54:43.920 and then it like comes out and this explodes and it's just like, but 1875 01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:47.720 we built the backup Final Fantasy seven, like it sunk seven nations, but 1876 01:54:47.840 --> 01:54:51.680 we built it so it'll never happen. Because what you're saying it was a 1877 01:54:51.720 --> 01:54:55.760 lot of content in that game. It's yes, I guess it'd be a 1878 01:54:55.800 --> 01:54:58.680 lot of voice actor because you'd probably need voice acting right at that point. 1879 01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:01.279 Yeah, you would, you'd have to voice cloud at that point Wolf. 1880 01:55:02.079 --> 01:55:05.079 Yeah, but don't do this, you know, go go and redo every 1881 01:55:05.199 --> 01:55:11.760 one of those cut scenes to modern standards. I just don't. Yeah, 1882 01:55:12.960 --> 01:55:15.800 I don't see them ever doing it. Rewrite the whole narrative so that you 1883 01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:24.039 can bring Eras back to live oh Man with I wonder if they'd be tempting 1884 01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:27.840 if I may have played Devil's Advocate for a moment. I'm not the biggest 1885 01:55:28.239 --> 01:55:30.279 proponent of Final Fantasy seven, but it's a helpful lot better than what they've 1886 01:55:30.279 --> 01:55:36.359 been doing lately with that franchise. Yeah, we need more cool snowboarding. 1887 01:55:36.399 --> 01:55:40.800 I would rather play seven. There's a lot of weird stuff in that game, 1888 01:55:40.920 --> 01:55:44.640 like the three Final Fantasy thirteen games, Like nope, no thanks, 1889 01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:47.720 all right, does anybody else have anything from the PlayStation experience we have not 1890 01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:53.319 discussed. Uh, that is pretty freaking cool. Yeah, it sounds like 1891 01:55:53.399 --> 01:55:56.319 it was. It sounds like it was a good event from the like the 1892 01:55:56.520 --> 01:55:59.520 kind of experience. It seems effective for them in terms of getting news out 1893 01:55:59.560 --> 01:56:02.640 there about their platform at a time when like the competition is not saying anything. 1894 01:56:04.039 --> 01:56:08.880 Yeah, happy anniversary. Sure, yeah, yeah, twenty years right. 1895 01:56:09.119 --> 01:56:11.119 Do you think they do it again or is just they already said they're 1896 01:56:11.119 --> 01:56:15.119 doing it again. Oh really they did well, same time frame, haven't 1897 01:56:15.119 --> 01:56:16.399 said, but I wouldn't be surprised, you know. I think there was 1898 01:56:17.640 --> 01:56:20.600 the game awards and places experience kind of built off the back of each other. 1899 01:56:20.600 --> 01:56:24.319 I would not be there. There are no other trade shows or conventions, 1900 01:56:24.319 --> 01:56:27.159 there's anything in December right now, So that's a good spot for them, 1901 01:56:27.520 --> 01:56:29.840 and you get people out, you know, for you know, that's 1902 01:56:29.880 --> 01:56:31.479 just like there's more to do and it's all you know, And you know 1903 01:56:31.520 --> 01:56:35.199 what that means that the original meaning of PSX is now lost to us forever. 1904 01:56:35.479 --> 01:56:39.720 Yeah, yeah, it's no longer a PS two with the DVR built 1905 01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:45.840 into it. Is this like just one step closer to E three being completely 1906 01:56:46.439 --> 01:56:49.800 think irrelevant in terms of a public Well oh yeah yeah. E three should 1907 01:56:49.800 --> 01:56:54.399 not be a public show. E three maybe shouldn't be a show. Maybe 1908 01:56:54.840 --> 01:56:58.439 it's one. It's definitely one step closer to ensuring that the John Drake is 1909 01:56:58.479 --> 01:57:00.880 on the road three hundred sixty five days. Well that's that's all I'm interested 1910 01:57:00.920 --> 01:57:03.600 in, and and a bunch of us along within like a just like trade 1911 01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:06.840 show after trade show at this point, keep those people worn down and crazy. 1912 01:57:08.079 --> 01:57:10.720 Like look at the level of the announcements at the PlayStation experience, right, 1913 01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:12.840 Like it's it's a lot of downloadable stuff, it's a lot of indie 1914 01:57:12.880 --> 01:57:15.319 stuff, I think, I mean, a little little teases of the Triple 1915 01:57:15.359 --> 01:57:16.600 A stuff, but like the big announcements are still gonna happen eighty three. 1916 01:57:16.640 --> 01:57:18.479 I mean, I still think like Street Fight or five is an E three 1917 01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:21.800 press conference level announcement. You know that that's a huge fucking deal for sure, 1918 01:57:23.479 --> 01:57:26.439 especially the way they're going about it, uh, being in exclusive like 1919 01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:30.159 I'll getting credit for that. That's stuff nuts. But I think, you 1920 01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:30.760 know, I think to that point, I don't think you know, it's 1921 01:57:30.800 --> 01:57:33.319 not a trade show, right, this is supposed to be a public thing, 1922 01:57:33.399 --> 01:57:36.399 and and it's how they can get away with like here's this long, 1923 01:57:36.680 --> 01:57:40.920 fucking uncharted demo, right, you put that in front of like the assembled 1924 01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:43.600 press. At some point they're gonna go like, yeah, you're fucking crawling 1925 01:57:43.680 --> 01:57:48.880 up a wall. Right. Actually, I think I think could be paced 1926 01:57:48.920 --> 01:57:53.000 better. Regardless of who the intended all this was, it was too long. 1927 01:57:53.239 --> 01:57:56.359 Yeah, that that whole thing, that whole you knowe was like oh 1928 01:57:56.439 --> 01:57:58.399 yeah, the whole show. I think it was a great to watch it 1929 01:57:58.720 --> 01:58:01.720 on a website. Yeah. Do you think Microsoft tries to answer in some 1930 01:58:01.840 --> 01:58:06.039 way? I don't know. I don't know if they can. We'll not 1931 01:58:06.159 --> 01:58:09.600 right the second line, no, no, no, no, like just 1932 01:58:09.640 --> 01:58:12.960 bring back. What I mean by it right now is like given the game 1933 01:58:13.039 --> 01:58:16.199 stock, given their backs boom, given their place in the market, I 1934 01:58:16.239 --> 01:58:19.399 mean like, is there enough enthusiasm around the Xbox brand at the moment to 1935 01:58:19.520 --> 01:58:24.359 like fill out a show like that. I think they could. I think 1936 01:58:24.359 --> 01:58:27.199 they can. Was that extra stuff was that public? No? No, 1937 01:58:27.399 --> 01:58:30.520 that was a press type thing. That that type of thing is absolutely dead 1938 01:58:30.680 --> 01:58:34.840 anything like with Halo five, Like yeah, like there's enough to get people 1939 01:58:34.840 --> 01:58:39.079 and they've and they've been going after Japanese stuff enough with like scale Bound and 1940 01:58:40.880 --> 01:58:45.920 what's your card game? Nonsense andom dust, Like there's probably enough stuff for 1941 01:58:45.119 --> 01:58:48.119 enough different people there that they could get some people out. You just wanted 1942 01:58:48.159 --> 01:58:53.359 like that would would a seem really reactionary? Yeah? Yeah, And they 1943 01:58:53.359 --> 01:58:56.920 don't have And where does it fit in the year right, like months start 1944 01:58:57.000 --> 01:59:00.359 getting I guess right, yeah, that's it starts getting kind of odd where 1945 01:59:00.359 --> 01:59:01.720 you place this stuff? Yeah, And also like they just don't I mean, 1946 01:59:03.520 --> 01:59:06.279 I don't know like it as much as like they have the ID Xbox 1947 01:59:06.359 --> 01:59:11.119 and they have their different things. Like it feels like the third party announcements 1948 01:59:11.239 --> 01:59:16.159 don't come the same way with Microsoft, you know what I mean, Like 1949 01:59:16.279 --> 01:59:19.880 it just doesn't feel like they're going after stuff the same way that's from the 1950 01:59:19.920 --> 01:59:23.520 same level, Like they'll they'll get their Call of Duty DLC and they'll they'll 1951 01:59:23.560 --> 01:59:25.640 do that deal. And I mean I feel like they had there's some of 1952 01:59:25.760 --> 01:59:29.399 arcade stuff back in the day, which it's pretty cool, right everybody used 1953 01:59:29.399 --> 01:59:30.800 to wait like what's coming to some arcade? But those days are gone. 1954 01:59:30.920 --> 01:59:33.640 Yeah, I feel I feel like the weird stuff about the Sony, like 1955 01:59:33.680 --> 01:59:36.600 all the third party stuff is like whenever they do these announcements, whether it's 1956 01:59:36.840 --> 01:59:40.279 you know, coming out of Europe or coming out of the three or now 1957 01:59:40.359 --> 01:59:45.000 this thing, like they deal in fucking bulk with these smaller games in a 1958 01:59:45.039 --> 01:59:47.399 way that like, yeah, no one individual announcement of those smaller games, 1959 01:59:47.439 --> 01:59:51.319 like it's gonna blow your fucking mind. But just the sheer number of games 1960 01:59:51.359 --> 01:59:56.159 that appeared on the PC that they are getting on their platforms, you know, 1961 01:59:56.279 --> 01:59:58.279 eventually it just starts to tip a scale at some point you're like, 1962 01:59:58.359 --> 02:00:01.479 fuck, what are you just doing? Like why stop? They're crazy. 1963 02:00:02.119 --> 02:00:04.800 They're almost the point where if you didn't have a PC of any kind, 1964 02:00:05.560 --> 02:00:09.640 you could just have like a PS four and a Vita and be a little 1965 02:00:09.680 --> 02:00:12.119 late. But yeah, yeah, it'd be late late, but you'd be 1966 02:00:12.279 --> 02:00:16.479 you're getting most of the best of speak Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you 1967 02:00:16.560 --> 02:00:19.680 know, you're not getting beyond Earth. Yeah, but you're getting the banner 1968 02:00:19.720 --> 02:00:25.039 saga, which is right, yeah, better kind of crazy. So yeah, 1969 02:00:25.560 --> 02:00:29.600 it is kind of weird. Al Right. Well that was the weekend's 1970 02:00:29.640 --> 02:00:33.640 events and the fucking avalanche of news that came out of them. You thought 1971 02:00:33.680 --> 02:00:40.000 the news was done? I did? You thought wrong? It's oh is 1972 02:00:40.000 --> 02:00:44.359 that okay? Is that the newsman talking news is over? Your professional opinion? 1973 02:00:45.439 --> 02:00:49.399 Sorry, but I've got news for you. There's more to talk about 1974 02:00:49.479 --> 02:00:59.159 here. Uh. Farewell to Ralph Baar, possibly the single most like seminal 1975 02:00:59.239 --> 02:01:01.279 figure in the history of video games, the reason we are all here kind 1976 02:01:01.359 --> 02:01:05.399 of yeahs why console video games exist. He passed away over the weekend at 1977 02:01:05.479 --> 02:01:11.239 the ripe old age of ninety two. Yeah. Well, with the disappearance 1978 02:01:11.279 --> 02:01:17.439 of arcades, it's likely he's the reason any video games exist set him up. 1979 02:01:18.079 --> 02:01:24.199 Yeah, so uh he The short version is he's the inventor of the 1980 02:01:24.279 --> 02:01:28.319 video game console. What does that mean? But you could go even further 1981 02:01:28.439 --> 02:01:31.359 back than that and kind of see him in the fifties and sixties sort of 1982 02:01:33.039 --> 02:01:39.279 thinking about, you know, conceiving the concept of video games even before they 1983 02:01:39.319 --> 02:01:42.720 were put into practice. And the Odyssey is you know what he is responsible? 1984 02:01:42.840 --> 02:01:45.840 Yeah, he ran Yeah, he ran the group that shipped the Magnavox 1985 02:01:45.880 --> 02:01:48.239 Odyssey, which was the actually like the literal first video game console. I 1986 02:01:48.279 --> 02:01:50.640 think its code name was the brown Box. Well, no, so that 1987 02:01:50.720 --> 02:01:56.079 he built that separate well kind of, yes, the brown Box exists, 1988 02:01:56.119 --> 02:02:00.399 which then became the interesting guy like born in the twenties and Germany like escape 1989 02:02:00.479 --> 02:02:02.520 Nazi Germany, like escaped the Holocaust and they went and fought in World War 1990 02:02:02.600 --> 02:02:04.560 Two? Did he Yeah? I think he was working. He was a 1991 02:02:04.920 --> 02:02:11.479 military intelligence okay, but just like classic tinkerer, like like my grandpa was 1992 02:02:11.560 --> 02:02:13.800 like this. I don't know if you know, he wasn't so much into 1993 02:02:13.800 --> 02:02:15.479 electronics, but I'm sure you know an old guy like this, it's got 1994 02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:18.239 like a work bench within the soul scope and a vaultmeter. I mean, 1995 02:02:18.479 --> 02:02:23.079 Vinnie, You're basically that's you in forty years right now, I hope. 1996 02:02:23.119 --> 02:02:27.520 So, like, you know, guy with a breadboard like building shit, 1997 02:02:27.760 --> 02:02:30.520 right, Yeah, taking apart toys seems yeah, like it seems like very 1998 02:02:30.600 --> 02:02:33.640 much more. See I can make this one curse. Yeah, apparent apparently 1999 02:02:33.680 --> 02:02:36.039 he was still like that. Yeah. Yeah, like you can read saw 2000 02:02:36.119 --> 02:02:40.079 some video interview maybe from Polygon or somethink it was him. I think PBS 2001 02:02:40.159 --> 02:02:43.399 did did it. I think the footage is from PBS. Okay, and 2002 02:02:43.560 --> 02:02:45.239 yeah, just still like why I wonder if we did this. Yeah, 2003 02:02:45.319 --> 02:02:47.560 it's like ninety two years old. Yeah, even in the last few years, 2004 02:02:47.600 --> 02:02:50.159 he was still tinkering with that stuff. Just like like huge amount of 2005 02:02:50.199 --> 02:02:55.600 respect for the people that are such accomplished engineers he made Simon, Yes, 2006 02:02:56.439 --> 02:03:00.359 yes, Simon he was. He got a bunch of awards. He was. 2007 02:03:00.640 --> 02:03:03.640 He got some sort of presidential honor back in two thousand and six. 2008 02:03:04.079 --> 02:03:08.079 And there's I got sort of you know, Achievement in Technology type award, 2009 02:03:08.199 --> 02:03:12.239 National Medal of Technology from Yeah, and then you know, you got the 2010 02:03:12.319 --> 02:03:15.880 GDC Lifetime Achievement Award. It was just a couple of years ago. I 2011 02:03:15.960 --> 02:03:19.920 think thank you right. The Washington Post ran a good story that had a 2012 02:03:20.159 --> 02:03:26.039 bunch of like factoids and stuff about him in there. It's kind of showing 2013 02:03:26.199 --> 02:03:29.399 how far back that's the stuff went with his ideas about games and stuff. 2014 02:03:29.439 --> 02:03:33.359 It was this really good quote from him, he says in nineteen sixty six, 2015 02:03:34.680 --> 02:03:39.319 thoughts about playing games using an ordinary TV set began to percolate in my 2016 02:03:39.399 --> 02:03:42.560 mind. When I designed and built a TV set at Laurel in nineteen fifty 2017 02:03:42.600 --> 02:03:45.359 five, I had proposed doing just that build in a game to differentiate our 2018 02:03:45.399 --> 02:03:48.680 TV set from the competition. Management said no, and that was that. 2019 02:03:49.640 --> 02:03:53.000 During a business trip in New York City on the last day of August in 2020 02:03:53.079 --> 02:03:56.359 nineteen sixty six, while waiting at a bus terminal for another Sanders engineer to 2021 02:03:56.399 --> 02:04:00.079 come into town for a meeting with client, I jotted down some notes on 2022 02:04:00.119 --> 02:04:03.319 the subject of using ordinary home TV sets to play games, and then they 2023 02:04:03.399 --> 02:04:09.640 say. Those notes eventually became a four page disclosure document now on file along 2024 02:04:09.720 --> 02:04:14.439 with the Brown Box, which was that prototype at the Smithsonian, but outlined 2025 02:04:14.520 --> 02:04:16.760 the idea of a game box that could play quote action games, board games, 2026 02:04:16.880 --> 02:04:20.119 sports games, chase games, and quote and other genres Chase Games. 2027 02:04:20.319 --> 02:04:28.600 Yeah about Chase Games. So yeah, he alka that says he bear allocated 2028 02:04:28.640 --> 02:04:30.760 a technician from his division at the defense company they worked for to develop the 2029 02:04:30.840 --> 02:04:35.640 idea. The project became official, then he supervised a couple of bunch of 2030 02:04:35.720 --> 02:04:40.479 other engineers and they basically worked on that stuff and made made the prototype. 2031 02:04:41.600 --> 02:04:43.880 You just look up that Washington the story. It's got a bunch of quotes 2032 02:04:43.880 --> 02:04:47.560 from him about just like life advice and how to like accomplish the things. 2033 02:04:47.880 --> 02:04:53.720 A documentary, like a short documentary about him very recently too. He searched 2034 02:04:53.760 --> 02:04:56.439 YouTube or something. It'll come up. But it was a really nice piece 2035 02:04:56.520 --> 02:05:00.800 that you know, he was even last year doing interviews and talking about his 2036 02:05:00.840 --> 02:05:03.640 accomplishments and he was still a really sharp guy, totally, yeah, up 2037 02:05:03.680 --> 02:05:08.039 until it lost him. One of one of his pieces of advice in this 2038 02:05:08.359 --> 02:05:14.119 in this those post story was to save everything because the notes his original notes 2039 02:05:14.239 --> 02:05:16.960 for the game, the tennis game that he made well in advance of Pong. 2040 02:05:17.800 --> 02:05:23.079 We're part of the discovery. In the case between them and Atari, 2041 02:05:23.399 --> 02:05:27.399 oh wow, like the like the copyright suit over Pong. The Atari ended 2042 02:05:27.439 --> 02:05:30.720 up settling out of court for and then having to pay Magnavox licensing for years 2043 02:05:30.800 --> 02:05:36.239 afterwards because Pong was basically a a carbon copier or whatever. Yeah, talk 2044 02:05:36.239 --> 02:05:40.840 about some foresight. Yeah yeah, Seriously, Like think to think he was 2045 02:05:40.880 --> 02:05:44.479 having these ideas back in the fifties is just crazy. He said, yeah, 2046 02:05:44.520 --> 02:05:47.079 I just built a TV, right right, It's just a casual piece 2047 02:05:47.079 --> 02:05:53.479 of conversation. I have no idea how well I mean you do this weekend? 2048 02:05:55.039 --> 02:05:58.319 I mean, I don't know. We're kind of like a it's a 2049 02:05:58.439 --> 02:06:00.119 it's crazy to think the video games are still so young that kind of like 2050 02:06:00.199 --> 02:06:03.199 the very first pioneers are kind of still with us and just now starting to 2051 02:06:03.239 --> 02:06:08.159 pass on. But like I feel like we're also losing the connection to like 2052 02:06:08.239 --> 02:06:11.439 that tangible era of engineering when you could like look at a machine and know 2053 02:06:11.560 --> 02:06:13.800 what every piece in it did. I think that's been gone for a while. 2054 02:06:13.920 --> 02:06:15.039 You're you're more or less right, I mean like it's kind of ever 2055 02:06:15.119 --> 02:06:18.399 since the integrated circuit came along, right, Yeah, or even just surface 2056 02:06:18.399 --> 02:06:23.760 amounted components. Stuff is so small, like now that you have like black 2057 02:06:23.840 --> 02:06:27.000 box chips that do all kinds of things inside them, and you can't like 2058 02:06:27.079 --> 02:06:29.600 look at them and see what they do. You can look at them well 2059 02:06:29.760 --> 02:06:31.960 what I mean, yeah, but discerning like what they're actually doing, the 2060 02:06:31.960 --> 02:06:35.920 whole thing, the whole my ear up to it. Hello. I do 2061 02:06:36.039 --> 02:06:40.520 feel like we're now finally starting to get into that range where some of those 2062 02:06:40.600 --> 02:06:43.920 people are starting to pass on. I feel like I actually wrote more obituaries 2063 02:06:44.000 --> 02:06:46.800 this year than I saw in the last like five or ten. I think 2064 02:06:46.840 --> 02:06:49.760 I think there's well, yeah, I think we're losing a lot of those 2065 02:06:50.600 --> 02:06:54.640 tinkers. But I think the tinkering has gone away too with the you know, 2066 02:06:55.079 --> 02:06:59.079 the deemifying of like reverse engineering and kind of like you know, we'll 2067 02:06:59.119 --> 02:07:00.680 go out, don't open three six, you don't modit, We're gonna take 2068 02:07:00.680 --> 02:07:03.279 you offline. We're gonna hunt you down. Where a lot of this stuff 2069 02:07:03.359 --> 02:07:08.399 wasn't come about by reverse engineering, right technology, because being able to understand 2070 02:07:08.439 --> 02:07:11.279 it, but you know, of course it's all brought about by reverse ensuring 2071 02:07:11.359 --> 02:07:16.880 the technology from the Roswell crash. Yeah, yeah, that'sn't have telecommunications and 2072 02:07:17.039 --> 02:07:20.319 we wouldn't have those microphones the Internet. It's like those cursed aliens. That's 2073 02:07:20.600 --> 02:07:27.159 a fair point. We should we should embrace that gift. Yeah, you 2074 02:07:27.279 --> 02:07:30.520 know, like a super super important figure in the you know, in this 2075 02:07:30.640 --> 02:07:36.239 field. But like the age of tinkering is up your iPhone and start tinkering. 2076 02:07:36.479 --> 02:07:39.840 You're right, But what I'm saying is like we're now we're starting to 2077 02:07:39.920 --> 02:07:42.319 lose the people who made things happen back in that era. You know, 2078 02:07:42.520 --> 02:07:44.640 like if there's kind of I don't know, there's always kind of a romantic 2079 02:07:44.680 --> 02:07:47.079 notion to me about like a single person who can build this amazing thing just 2080 02:07:47.119 --> 02:07:49.279 because they know how every piece of the chain works. But to me, 2081 02:07:49.359 --> 02:07:55.920 like the current day tinker are like Ian, like I start with software tinkers 2082 02:07:55.920 --> 02:08:00.000 absolutely like that. Dude'll break anything, yeah, but but make something amazing 2083 02:08:00.039 --> 02:08:03.960 read and then put something someday, put something better back together out of it. 2084 02:08:03.079 --> 02:08:07.640 Absolutely for sure. So yeah, adults is his family. It's an 2085 02:08:07.720 --> 02:08:13.920 interesting figure. Who's ready for more Assassin's Creed? Nope, no I am. 2086 02:08:13.560 --> 02:08:20.119 I am ready for more exciting let's go. Did you buy Unity? 2087 02:08:20.600 --> 02:08:22.760 No? I had to make my choice and I bought Dragon Eese. Okay, 2088 02:08:22.880 --> 02:08:24.880 all right, it probably made the wise choice and it was fairly informed. 2089 02:08:24.920 --> 02:08:28.359 Do you think do you think you're actually not gonna like the idea of 2090 02:08:28.439 --> 02:08:31.680 Anny not playing an Assassins Creed game is mind blowing to me. Play. 2091 02:08:31.520 --> 02:08:35.079 You can borrow a Rogue if you want. Okay, maybe I'll do. 2092 02:08:35.119 --> 02:08:37.760 I bet Rogue will come out on PC next year, so maybe, yeah, 2093 02:08:37.800 --> 02:08:39.800 I might. I might have already said that, which makes it seem 2094 02:08:39.800 --> 02:08:43.680 like there'll be a next gen version. Yeah, you might want to just 2095 02:08:43.760 --> 02:08:48.159 wait for Rogue HD. So that's no, that is not the news. 2096 02:08:48.479 --> 02:08:52.079 The news is that the nature of next year's Assassins Creed game. And I 2097 02:08:52.119 --> 02:08:58.560 can't believe I'm saying next year's Assassins Creed game, but I am is elite. 2098 02:08:58.000 --> 02:09:01.560 What is it? Oh, didn't see nothing, I'll dude, like 2099 02:09:01.640 --> 02:09:07.159 screenshots out there, nothing like a good probably would four to six months before 2100 02:09:07.159 --> 02:09:11.479 they would have announced it, probably, Yeah. Hill set in Victorian London, 2101 02:09:11.640 --> 02:09:16.039 Okay to hear about this stuff. All right, great, where we 2102 02:09:16.159 --> 02:09:20.960 talked about We've done a lot of talking this week, right, Yeah, 2103 02:09:20.720 --> 02:09:24.000 we did talk about this and then up over there, No, and then 2104 02:09:24.079 --> 02:09:30.840 I forgot the same reaction I had. Yeah. So yeah, So so 2105 02:09:31.159 --> 02:09:35.439 Kataku absorbed some massive leak pertaining to this game with a ton of inform. 2106 02:09:35.520 --> 02:09:39.359 In fact, they they say they so they watched a video like a target 2107 02:09:39.399 --> 02:09:41.720 render video of what this game is going to be. Uh set in in 2108 02:09:43.000 --> 02:09:46.680 uh set in London in the of course, in the nineteenth century. Jack 2109 02:09:46.760 --> 02:09:50.760 the Ripper, Yes, yes, Uh, it's either it's either going to 2110 02:09:50.840 --> 02:09:54.840 be our Jack the Ripper because you've been slicing everybody up. Yep. So 2111 02:09:56.159 --> 02:09:58.239 did you see they think they figured out the identity of Jack the Ripper? 2112 02:10:00.159 --> 02:10:03.079 Really didn't they get like this? Yeah? I don't know. Actually I 2113 02:10:03.159 --> 02:10:07.279 also saw the questions. Yeah, I'm not sure. There's some pretty advanced 2114 02:10:07.359 --> 02:10:11.800 DNA stuff I did not but continue on with anyway, So they're not sure 2115 02:10:11.840 --> 02:10:15.680 if it's if it's just codename or if it's the final title. But victory 2116 02:10:16.800 --> 02:10:20.159 is the unity of victory ass Creed victory, maybe Torrian era victory. Yes, 2117 02:10:20.439 --> 02:10:24.319 it also makes sense that they're going to Probably I would be surprised if 2118 02:10:24.359 --> 02:10:28.000 they do a numbered Assassin's Creed again. Wait, you'd be surprised if they 2119 02:10:28.079 --> 02:10:30.479 do that. Yeah, I think I think they're done with that. Think 2120 02:10:30.960 --> 02:10:33.439 I mean Black Flight did not need a four attached to it, Yeah, 2121 02:10:33.520 --> 02:10:37.199 like that was just unnecessary. But internally I think they thought like a sold 2122 02:10:37.239 --> 02:10:39.720 better because that had a number on it. So actually I would not be. 2123 02:10:39.960 --> 02:10:43.680 I took that largely as an attempt to distance distance it from three, 2124 02:10:43.880 --> 02:10:48.119 which was supportily received. Yes, that was part of it. Yeah, 2125 02:10:48.279 --> 02:10:50.000 definitely, to say, like, this is the next game. I think. 2126 02:10:50.159 --> 02:10:52.159 I think the game was in development without the number, and then they 2127 02:10:54.319 --> 02:11:00.920 hasn't that always indicated the different protagonists though there's no number Unity, Unity and 2128 02:11:01.000 --> 02:11:05.000 Road both have new protagonists and yeah, yeah so I think, but historically, 2129 02:11:05.119 --> 02:11:07.079 if that was the case, they have abandoned that. Since that, 2130 02:11:07.560 --> 02:11:11.039 I think the I think they're leaving that behind. Oh cool, I got 2131 02:11:11.119 --> 02:11:13.159 smart. Yeah, I guess. Like the biggest I'm trying to find Okay, 2132 02:11:13.159 --> 02:11:16.920 here we go. So the like, at least internally, are kind 2133 02:11:16.920 --> 02:11:18.439 of behind the scenes. The biggest deal with this thing is it's been being 2134 02:11:18.520 --> 02:11:24.199 made for the first time outside of Ubisoft Montreal, who's being Ubisoft Quebec, 2135 02:11:24.640 --> 02:11:30.760 who made Freedom Cry. Yeah, pretty was. Unfortunately it came out during 2136 02:11:30.920 --> 02:11:33.479 or right after our Game of the Year stuff last year, because otherwise I 2137 02:11:33.560 --> 02:11:37.680 would have talked it up. It was a pretty exceptional piece of DLC. 2138 02:11:37.880 --> 02:11:41.439 I mean, if the biggest criticism of the Assassin's Creed games is that they 2139 02:11:41.479 --> 02:11:43.680 don't really take enough risks, or at least the risks they take don't really 2140 02:11:43.760 --> 02:11:48.359 pan out. Freedom Cry did a lot of really interesting and smart things with 2141 02:11:48.439 --> 02:11:54.000 story and mechanics within the Assassin's Creed sort of structure, and the idea that 2142 02:11:54.039 --> 02:11:56.159 they would get a couple of years to build their own game. I was 2143 02:11:56.520 --> 02:12:01.760 so ready to just be done with this series, and then that kind of 2144 02:12:01.800 --> 02:12:07.079 at least makes me curious. M hmm, it's gotta grabbing huck heay grabbing 2145 02:12:07.159 --> 02:12:13.479 us. In addition to Freedom Cry, Quebec also made the Assassin's Pree three 2146 02:12:13.600 --> 02:12:16.239 DLC, The Tyranny of King Washington, which may be the best name for 2147 02:12:16.279 --> 02:12:20.239 a DLC ever in the history of video games. Was also really weird. 2148 02:12:20.960 --> 02:12:24.640 It was, wasn't It was like some weird old Yeah yeah, but you 2149 02:12:24.720 --> 02:12:31.600 know, just the idea of another studio taking a stab but yeah, yeah, 2150 02:12:31.840 --> 02:12:35.399 that kind of exciting that that that franchise apparently needs whatever. Yeah, 2151 02:12:35.479 --> 02:12:39.079 you can throw it and also you know, maybe a break but uh yeah, 2152 02:12:39.399 --> 02:12:41.560 but if another studio has been spearheading this one, plus they'll I've had 2153 02:12:41.560 --> 02:12:46.479 another year to work with this technology. We won't really know how that one's 2154 02:12:46.479 --> 02:12:48.840 gonna go, though, until we find out the nineteen other studios that are 2155 02:12:48.880 --> 02:12:50.920 also working on its true. Maybe it'll be. Did they say it's a 2156 02:12:52.039 --> 02:12:56.199 full on, uh like big release. Yeah, it is the next next 2157 02:12:56.279 --> 02:13:00.880 year's game. The word is they will not be putting out two games again 2158 02:13:00.960 --> 02:13:03.479 next year like they did this year. It's just going to be this one. 2159 02:13:03.960 --> 02:13:07.439 The screenshot's gorgeous. Yeah, the shots looking real nice. There's a 2160 02:13:07.000 --> 02:13:11.880 there's a real mood to that that is not present in Unity at all. 2161 02:13:11.079 --> 02:13:16.039 But none of this is official released assets. By so Later in the day 2162 02:13:16.640 --> 02:13:22.239 after this story was published you'd be so Oft sent a statement to several outlets, 2163 02:13:22.319 --> 02:13:26.279 not Kotaku. It'smost like they weren't very happy, but that had happened, 2164 02:13:26.359 --> 02:13:30.399 which Kotaku then repurposed, so I'll just read it here. The statement's 2165 02:13:30.479 --> 02:13:33.920 kind of crazy to me. It is always unfortunate when internal assets not intended 2166 02:13:33.960 --> 02:13:37.960 for public consumption are leaked, and while we certainly welcome anticipation for all of 2167 02:13:37.960 --> 02:13:41.760 our upcoming titles, we're disappointed for our fans and our development team that this 2168 02:13:41.880 --> 02:13:46.760 conceptual asset is now public. The team in Arquebec Studio has been hard at 2169 02:13:46.760 --> 02:13:50.720 work on the particular game in question for the past few years, and we're 2170 02:13:50.760 --> 02:13:52.800 excited to officially unveil what the studio has been working on at a later date. 2171 02:13:54.199 --> 02:13:56.520 In the meantime, our number one priority is enhancing the experience of Assassin's 2172 02:13:56.520 --> 02:14:00.640 Creed unity for players. You want to talk about assets that are unfortunate, 2173 02:14:00.680 --> 02:14:03.439 let's talk about the assets they are putting out for public consumption. Like. 2174 02:14:03.560 --> 02:14:05.199 The crazy thing about this to me, though, is that it in no 2175 02:14:05.319 --> 02:14:09.560 way like ignores or denies the existence of this game. It's basically just says 2176 02:14:09.640 --> 02:14:11.680 like, yep, we got us yeah, confirms it. Well, I 2177 02:14:11.680 --> 02:14:15.840 mean when you got screenshots, it becomes irrefutable in a way that isn't just 2178 02:14:15.960 --> 02:14:20.079 like sources have told us that they are putting out Assassin's Creed Victory next year. 2179 02:14:20.319 --> 02:14:20.960 You start to wonder like if if they had to weigh it out and 2180 02:14:22.039 --> 02:14:24.079 go like, well, you know, like let's give this a shot for 2181 02:14:24.119 --> 02:14:26.720 a change, instead of just saying nothing. And also, boy, we 2182 02:14:26.800 --> 02:14:33.399 sure could use like some singly keys over here people from what the fuck is 2183 02:14:33.439 --> 02:14:35.199 going on with current day Assassin's Creed. Sure, but they also say in 2184 02:14:35.239 --> 02:14:39.439 the in the end of the press release or the release that they're you know, 2185 02:14:39.760 --> 02:14:41.039 hey, we're also trying to fix Unity. You know, like, 2186 02:14:41.520 --> 02:14:45.920 don't be we have been working on this probably for years, but like don't 2187 02:14:45.960 --> 02:14:48.239 think that we abandoned Unity. We're still working at it. But yeah, 2188 02:14:48.279 --> 02:14:52.159 this is this is that their pr could use a positive goose and like this 2189 02:14:52.359 --> 02:14:56.880 is a distraction at least. Yeah, their games always get leaked to Assassin's 2190 02:14:56.880 --> 02:15:01.720 Creed specifically, the last couple have all probably it was like because somebody in 2191 02:15:01.760 --> 02:15:03.159 this room is working on Assassin Screened right right now. Well, Unity, 2192 02:15:03.399 --> 02:15:09.800 I'm working on a screen Coe Fronica. That's going okay. Leaks leaks just 2193 02:15:09.039 --> 02:15:13.920 like seemed like they're becoming just like a fact of life in modern media. 2194 02:15:15.000 --> 02:15:18.680 Though. Yeah, like as more and more people touched the production of not 2195 02:15:18.800 --> 02:15:22.680 just games where put Unity was leaked, like when a guy showed the trailer 2196 02:15:22.720 --> 02:15:26.119 to someone else on an airplane. Don't you remember that really? Yeah, 2197 02:15:26.279 --> 02:15:28.279 like there was like someone either worked at Ubisoft. It was like, yeah, 2198 02:15:28.319 --> 02:15:33.479 this is the game I'm working on and no, but like he he 2199 02:15:33.640 --> 02:15:35.399 was like a fan and then he ran I believe the neo gaff was like, 2200 02:15:35.760 --> 02:15:39.399 Yo, this guy showed me this ship on an airplane. That's just 2201 02:15:39.520 --> 02:15:41.359 dumb. Yeah, that's the thing you shouldn't do. Are you a fan 2202 02:15:41.439 --> 02:15:46.920 of the series? I love Assassin screen, but the definitely Yeah, I 2203 02:15:46.960 --> 02:15:50.560 don't know. I mean there's like there's been stuff leaking the left and right 2204 02:15:50.600 --> 02:15:54.319 out of the Star Wars production for instance, Like even look at Microsoft, 2205 02:15:54.399 --> 02:15:56.760 right, and he was a guy had at leaked a bunch of basically Microsoft 2206 02:15:56.840 --> 02:16:01.640 twenty fourteen slate like way earlier in the year. Yeah, there's like an 2207 02:16:01.720 --> 02:16:05.039 even even like Apple's the most secretive company on the planet, and like you 2208 02:16:05.119 --> 02:16:07.640 can't get to an iPhone reveal at this point without knowing exactly what it is. 2209 02:16:09.399 --> 02:16:11.159 So all your entertainment is made by robots. This will continue to happen. 2210 02:16:11.199 --> 02:16:15.920 There are no secrets. There are no secrets anymore then pure thing was 2211 02:16:15.960 --> 02:16:18.520 a hack, right, that was a whole other that was that was a 2212 02:16:18.640 --> 02:16:22.079 malicious activity for sure. That something. Yeah, man, that thing is 2213 02:16:22.119 --> 02:16:26.039 intense. Good God, all right, real quick, we'll pound through the 2214 02:16:26.119 --> 02:16:31.639 last few stories. Uh, Steam now lets you broadcast or stream stream video 2215 02:16:31.719 --> 02:16:39.040 games? Also anime also poorn to what to other viewers of Steam or other 2216 02:16:39.079 --> 02:16:43.680 Steam viewers. Yeah, it's like in client, So haves anybody tried this 2217 02:16:43.760 --> 02:16:46.319 yet? Yeah? I mean, well, tried. What tried broadcasting. 2218 02:16:46.760 --> 02:16:52.079 I've watched other I have watched other broadcasts because they publicly will show up. 2219 02:16:52.079 --> 02:16:54.600 You can you can set the privacy okay if you want it, so you 2220 02:16:54.680 --> 02:16:56.520 can. Can you just list your broadcast and anybody can stumble on it. 2221 02:16:56.799 --> 02:17:01.719 Okay, okay, they have a page they'll show that stuff, so you 2222 02:17:01.719 --> 02:17:03.520 can. You can come across stuff that way. So I watched someone streaming 2223 02:17:03.559 --> 02:17:07.120 out anime because they just added you know, like I think you can just 2224 02:17:07.159 --> 02:17:09.559 stream your desktop out or you know, it's you know, hey, add 2225 02:17:09.600 --> 02:17:15.479 the media player as a non Steam app and right from there. So I 2226 02:17:15.600 --> 02:17:18.959 watched a little bit of that. I logged into Friends for the first time 2227 02:17:18.959 --> 02:17:22.479 in a long time to right click on someone who was playing a game and 2228 02:17:22.559 --> 02:17:24.920 try to watch it. But it aired out, so it's it's still in 2229 02:17:24.959 --> 02:17:28.440 beta. They say that it's like, you know, if you have your 2230 02:17:28.600 --> 02:17:33.239 permission to set if it won't stream all the time, but if someone requests 2231 02:17:33.280 --> 02:17:35.879 to view it, it will start it up. Yeah, which I start 2232 02:17:35.959 --> 02:17:39.000 streaming, which is kind of cool. Prompt like will the prompt and say 2233 02:17:39.000 --> 02:17:43.680 like, hey, I would assume probably an end game elements like team pop 2234 02:17:43.799 --> 02:17:48.719 up that says so I thought I was reading on a messageboard somebody saying that 2235 02:17:48.760 --> 02:17:50.360 it was actually seamless, But I might be wrong. I don't know. 2236 02:17:50.959 --> 02:17:54.280 You have to enable it to extreme my desktop or something, right, I 2237 02:17:54.319 --> 02:17:58.440 can't just go log in, Yeah, yeah, I mean I would have 2238 02:17:58.520 --> 02:18:05.040 to have it set to like, you know, ship from there. So 2239 02:18:05.399 --> 02:18:07.639 yeah, like, I mean, you know, I saw some commentary about 2240 02:18:07.639 --> 02:18:11.399 this was sort of focused on like how this was lacking compared to Twitch. 2241 02:18:11.040 --> 02:18:15.120 I don't think they're trying to. I think the intent the intent here is 2242 02:18:15.120 --> 02:18:18.040 completely different. I feel like this is more like streaming as a purchasing aid. 2243 02:18:18.120 --> 02:18:22.000 You know. It's like I want to watch my friend playing a game 2244 02:18:22.040 --> 02:18:24.319 I'm interested in, and like five minutes later, I'll know if I want 2245 02:18:24.319 --> 02:18:26.280 to buy it. I'm not going to be surprised if at some point, 2246 02:18:26.559 --> 02:18:28.120 you know, especially with like the curator features that they have, that you 2247 02:18:28.200 --> 02:18:31.000 know, you could make a percentage of the sales off the ones that like 2248 02:18:31.079 --> 02:18:35.719 are bought directly through your broadcast. I think I think that's a pretty natural 2249 02:18:35.799 --> 02:18:37.680 extension of this stuff. At some point, is it is purely a purchasing 2250 02:18:37.719 --> 02:18:41.959 aid, you may you may have folks like you know, total Biscuit or 2251 02:18:41.959 --> 02:18:45.719 whoever that doing a channel. They do stuff through this, but I don't 2252 02:18:45.879 --> 02:18:48.920 think they're interested in competing with Twitch. They're just they're just augmenting what's unique 2253 02:18:48.920 --> 02:18:54.239 about that and the engagement you get from watching zone play and then keeping you 2254 02:18:54.440 --> 02:18:56.559 in client, which means then you can click a button to buy that game. 2255 02:18:56.639 --> 02:19:01.319 Though. The truly and the innovative thing about this is the the on 2256 02:19:01.479 --> 02:19:05.760 demand nature of this for the viewer, like the idea that the viewer can 2257 02:19:05.799 --> 02:19:09.120 initiate the stream. Yeah, you know, it'd be cool if Jeff was 2258 02:19:09.120 --> 02:19:13.200 playing that Call of Duty and I'm just I'm like just farting, drinking coffee, 2259 02:19:13.200 --> 02:19:16.159 like what's doing? Or just wonder what that game looks like this it 2260 02:19:16.200 --> 02:19:18.520 seems like a good time to check out five or ten minutes. I like 2261 02:19:18.600 --> 02:19:22.239 the idea of setting that like this also now requires me like do another flush 2262 02:19:22.319 --> 02:19:26.120 of like my friends list or something like that. Sure, but you know 2263 02:19:26.159 --> 02:19:28.879 it's being on the spiel to feel comfortable just setting that. It's like, 2264 02:19:28.920 --> 02:19:31.319 whenever I'm playing a game, if someone just wants to tune in and watch, 2265 02:19:31.440 --> 02:19:35.399 like, I think that's neat. Oh wonder who's paying the bandwidthout all 2266 02:19:35.440 --> 02:19:37.440 that seam is, but they're a score, you know, like that. 2267 02:19:37.600 --> 02:19:39.840 You know, they're probably looking at it as like hopefully they'll expose games to 2268 02:19:39.840 --> 02:19:43.239 people who then go buy the games, and they're going that way with it. 2269 02:19:43.639 --> 02:19:46.079 Yeah, it's not meant to compeat with Switch because which is a you 2270 02:19:46.159 --> 02:19:50.200 know, the the monetization and every step of the way Twitch is a is 2271 02:19:50.200 --> 02:19:52.239 a very different thing. Yeah. Vous making their money off selling games, 2272 02:19:52.440 --> 02:19:58.079 Yeah, and this is another way to do that. It's cool, like 2273 02:19:58.200 --> 02:20:01.440 they continue to I mean, it's it's basically it's like the incredible like data 2274 02:20:01.479 --> 02:20:05.280 spectator features writ large, right, Like sure, basically let's you be you 2275 02:20:05.440 --> 02:20:09.440 on the spectator end can decide to watch people without them okaying you into the 2276 02:20:09.479 --> 02:20:13.799 process or whatever. This is in beta now, yeah, open, but 2277 02:20:13.840 --> 02:20:16.840 yeah, any anyone, if you if you go into Steam, opt into 2278 02:20:16.920 --> 02:20:20.399 the Steam beta client, okay, which anyone can do, then then you 2279 02:20:20.120 --> 02:20:22.840 Yeah. I mean, like Valve is so fucking full of smart people, 2280 02:20:22.920 --> 02:20:26.600 Like they extend you to just have like the best ideas about everything. Yeah, 2281 02:20:26.639 --> 02:20:28.440 we'll see that's how it works out. You know. It's one of 2282 02:20:28.440 --> 02:20:31.920 those things where it's like they should probably surface popular streams on the store page 2283 02:20:31.920 --> 02:20:33.000 of themselves. So if you don't have friends playing it, and you're at 2284 02:20:33.040 --> 02:20:35.760 a store page and go, I want to see this, you can say 2285 02:20:35.760 --> 02:20:39.520 it's one of the thumbnails has become somebody playing that game right current. It 2286 02:20:39.600 --> 02:20:41.319 might. I mean you can imagine that. You know, you're on the 2287 02:20:41.360 --> 02:20:43.399 storefront, you click on a game page, and then it's like your streams 2288 02:20:43.440 --> 02:20:48.239 currently running, right, it's crazy sorted by popularity, it's it's probably again 2289 02:20:48.319 --> 02:20:52.120 linked to the curator stuff, and then right, yeah, shut it all 2290 02:20:52.159 --> 02:20:54.840 down. We were we even doing anymore, not working at Valve. We're 2291 02:20:54.920 --> 02:20:58.399 just like, you know, people, just what is quote unquote games journalism 2292 02:20:58.440 --> 02:21:01.239 at this point? If if you're just going to a place to buy a 2293 02:21:01.319 --> 02:21:03.399 game, watching one hundred people, just play it and be like, I'll 2294 02:21:03.440 --> 02:21:09.479 buy it, don't think about it too much if you'll go away. So 2295 02:21:09.639 --> 02:21:13.719 that's why we're getting into skateboard reviews. These trucks are bullshit. Oh no, 2296 02:21:16.440 --> 02:21:18.399 but only skateboards that you hold, never ones that you ride. Yeah, 2297 02:21:18.440 --> 02:21:22.120 okay, it's a good skateboard for holding you flip around your hand. 2298 02:21:22.239 --> 02:21:26.479 Yeah, how are the bearings? I don't know, but just the boards 2299 02:21:26.520 --> 02:21:28.280 is yeah, they're great. I don't know he's got a sick graphic on 2300 02:21:28.360 --> 02:21:31.840 it. Yeah, this one, it's like weirdly gripping on the top. 2301 02:21:31.920 --> 02:21:35.200 You can follow your nails down if you want it to. I don't know. 2302 02:21:35.920 --> 02:21:39.959 Five. Yeah, why we stopped doing video skateboard reviews just text? 2303 02:21:39.120 --> 02:21:45.280 Yeah, okay, last story, the footage. It took forever. The 2304 02:21:45.360 --> 02:21:50.120 match to what we were saying, let's get through this together, which The 2305 02:21:50.159 --> 02:21:54.920 Witcher three has been delayed until May from February. Yeah, I think I 2306 02:21:56.079 --> 02:21:58.120 was not not unhappy to see that. Yeah, I remember. I remember 2307 02:21:58.120 --> 02:22:01.360 I never played The Witcher too, but I remember what a damn mess that 2308 02:22:01.479 --> 02:22:05.559 was when it came out. Was it was it? Yeah, like there 2309 02:22:05.639 --> 02:22:09.399 was somebody there was and there was something like stuff with the tutorial stuff that. 2310 02:22:09.559 --> 02:22:11.319 Yeah. I remember they put out a massive update a few months later, 2311 02:22:11.600 --> 02:22:16.600 adding like that makes sense, didn't say mass math. I mean, 2312 02:22:16.639 --> 02:22:20.680 would you're like redoing the beginning of your game. That's a pretty big update 2313 02:22:20.719 --> 02:22:22.879 because nobody one and it was very different game it was. I think it 2314 02:22:22.959 --> 02:22:26.000 was more about introducing people to the mechanics. I remember, like, yeah, 2315 02:22:26.360 --> 02:22:28.879 I just remember everybody playing the Whitch or two when it first came out, 2316 02:22:30.000 --> 02:22:33.120 being like baffled at the way it played. That's how it was when 2317 02:22:33.159 --> 02:22:35.760 it came out on three sixty they had incorporated. Yeah, it was a 2318 02:22:35.840 --> 02:22:39.559 really good version it Also it also was like a huge resource hog on PC, 2319 02:22:39.760 --> 02:22:43.319 like it didn't run well for anybody, I believe, which is a 2320 02:22:43.360 --> 02:22:46.600 great time. Yeah, I don't know that game has looked great those times 2321 02:22:46.680 --> 02:22:52.120 we've we've ye closed out two e three's with very long which or three demos, 2322 02:22:52.239 --> 02:22:56.040 Absolutely, and it looked really good. So I'm not worried about it 2323 02:22:56.159 --> 02:22:58.799 or anything. But uh, Also, it's it's crazy to see a developer, 2324 02:23:00.040 --> 02:23:03.239 I guess because they're independent delay a game past March, you know, 2325 02:23:03.719 --> 02:23:05.399 yeah, right, like a past a quarter. Like if you're a publicly 2326 02:23:05.440 --> 02:23:09.280 owned company marches do or die for getting your game out. It's not hard 2327 02:23:09.280 --> 02:23:11.840 to imagine in the hands of someone else that game just comes out in March 2328 02:23:11.200 --> 02:23:16.120 twenty sixth or whatever whatever. But yeah, hopefully they take the time because 2329 02:23:16.239 --> 02:23:20.319 I'd rather have a good version of that. Then I rushed a buggy one. 2330 02:23:20.440 --> 02:23:22.840 Yeah, you know, they put out a statement basically saying, hey, 2331 02:23:22.920 --> 02:23:24.479 yeah, we want to make sure it's as good as it can be. 2332 02:23:24.920 --> 02:23:28.120 And also given you know, everything that happened. It's Fall. You 2333 02:23:28.200 --> 02:23:33.559 know, maybe the ripple effective at is publishers and developers at the language language 2334 02:23:33.559 --> 02:23:35.239 is actually pretty explicit. We owe you an apology. We set the release 2335 02:23:35.360 --> 02:23:39.360 day two hastily. It's a hard lesson one to take heart to heart for 2336 02:23:39.440 --> 02:23:41.760 the future. Well delayed twice, Yeah, it was spo come out. 2337 02:23:41.280 --> 02:23:45.040 It was Fall. It was supposed to be out now. Yeah, which 2338 02:23:45.079 --> 02:23:46.319 makes you me you know, it makes you raise your eyebrow a little bit, 2339 02:23:46.360 --> 02:23:48.559 like what was that game going to be if somehow that was coming out 2340 02:23:48.799 --> 02:23:52.559 in October. Yeah, it's also something there, like we don't believe in 2341 02:23:52.639 --> 02:23:58.680 putting out broken games. Yes, Like i CD Project is kind of an 2342 02:23:58.680 --> 02:24:01.319 amazing company. Sometimes I worry about them. Yeah, sure, like they 2343 02:24:01.360 --> 02:24:03.600 go they just like whatever their burn rate is, you know, like they 2344 02:24:03.639 --> 02:24:07.680 develop games for so long, like they put everything out DRM free, So 2345 02:24:07.920 --> 02:24:09.680 like a worry they get hired it a lot, Like it's just like, 2346 02:24:09.719 --> 02:24:13.600 how would you guys afford to keep making games like they're fascinating? Yeah, 2347 02:24:13.959 --> 02:24:16.559 totally, And well it seems like they're trying to counter that a little bit 2348 02:24:16.600 --> 02:24:18.840 by like what they're basically branding off which are in a bunch of different ways? 2349 02:24:18.920 --> 02:24:22.600 Is the Whitcher adventure game board games? Do you ever make their sci 2350 02:24:22.680 --> 02:24:26.799 fi thing? So they haven't talked about that in a while. Okay, 2351 02:24:26.879 --> 02:24:28.760 that's what I'm saying. They were super early in that when they announced it. 2352 02:24:28.879 --> 02:24:31.600 It doesn't even start full production until this game is out. It's still 2353 02:24:31.600 --> 02:24:35.280 a thing. Yeah, it's just like it exists in some form. Yeah, 2354 02:24:37.319 --> 02:24:39.959 at the end of news. That is the end of the record setting 2355 02:24:39.360 --> 02:24:43.079 news segments. Oh damn, yep, we did it. How do you 2356 02:24:43.120 --> 02:24:46.520 feel about one email? Or what do we haven't we at? Or what 2357 02:24:46.559 --> 02:24:50.959 are we at? Let's say what we got for this section? So we're 2358 02:24:50.159 --> 02:24:54.239 like twenty five minutes section. Yeah, it's take a couple of emails. 2359 02:24:54.360 --> 02:24:58.200 Okay, emails. I know you guys. Have you had another podcast to 2360 02:24:58.239 --> 02:25:03.760 you? Do we apologize for that? It's not your fault that we have 2361 02:25:03.799 --> 02:25:09.040 another podcast. Yeah, that's o'clock. Let's just true stay here all night. 2362 02:25:11.879 --> 02:25:18.479 Thomas from Virginia, it's upte Yeah. Uh. Subject line. You 2363 02:25:18.559 --> 02:25:22.840 would not believe how many subject lines are in my list of emails this week, 2364 02:25:22.319 --> 02:25:26.479 like almost all of them. Wow, it's amazing. Wow. So 2365 02:25:26.600 --> 02:25:31.559 when do we start talking class action lawsuit over PS four suspend mode. That 2366 02:25:31.639 --> 02:25:35.520 might be a little hasty, given that Sony just lost that class action lawsuit 2367 02:25:35.600 --> 02:25:37.680 for way over promising what PS three Vita remote play was going to be. 2368 02:25:39.360 --> 02:25:41.120 When do we start talking about the same thing over PS four to spend feature 2369 02:25:41.200 --> 02:25:46.280 that was promised almost two years ago and still hasn't materialized. I was really 2370 02:25:46.719 --> 02:25:50.440 really looking forward to that feature, since it's super great on Vita not having 2371 02:25:50.479 --> 02:25:52.920 to wait through load times if you just want to play the same game again, 2372 02:25:52.319 --> 02:25:56.799 But they haven't even mentioned it since I think it's super shitty to promise 2373 02:25:56.840 --> 02:25:58.840 features before you know whether or not you can deliver them, and yet another 2374 02:26:00.040 --> 02:26:05.440 modern trend we should try to discourage, Like I'm definitely definitely right about Like 2375 02:26:05.559 --> 02:26:07.479 it's shitty that I mean. That was one of the that was literally almost 2376 02:26:07.520 --> 02:26:11.600 the first feature in the presentation the day they announced the PS four that they 2377 02:26:11.760 --> 02:26:16.159 detailed. But Microsoft doesn't work that well. I had problems with Sunset overdrive 2378 02:26:16.159 --> 02:26:18.040 it because it would always make me log back in like my killing Yeah, 2379 02:26:18.079 --> 02:26:22.159 maybe maybe have multiple accounts on your machine? Do you have multiple? I've 2380 02:26:22.200 --> 02:26:26.879 just got one, so I have two and I almost never have to sit 2381 02:26:26.959 --> 02:26:30.760 through anything like it almost always remembers the game that I was playing. Now, 2382 02:26:30.799 --> 02:26:33.159 I think if you're switching accounts a fair amount, that will probably undo 2383 02:26:33.280 --> 02:26:37.079 that. I think as long as well it was just Sunset Overdrive. It 2384 02:26:37.159 --> 02:26:39.360 made me be like like which users this like okay, and then we'd have 2385 02:26:39.440 --> 02:26:43.079 to lead back in really like and you lose where you were. I know, 2386 02:26:43.319 --> 02:26:46.840 the checkpoint would come out, okay. I wasn't like to suspend, 2387 02:26:46.920 --> 02:26:50.520 like just booted back from out of the pauseman, you like I played through 2388 02:26:50.559 --> 02:26:54.840 that, and I played through that entire game, restarting the game like maybe 2389 02:26:54.879 --> 02:26:58.959 twice. Like I got like halfway through the game at home without ever having 2390 02:26:58.120 --> 02:27:01.520 like you know what I mean, never killed that session and started it over 2391 02:27:01.680 --> 02:27:05.040 like it just went and went. That was for me on Dead Rising. 2392 02:27:05.159 --> 02:27:07.639 Yeah, yeah, it's it's you know, that feature was a little spotty 2393 02:27:07.719 --> 02:27:09.159 at once. Yeah, I feel like it's occasionally clunky, but it's usually 2394 02:27:09.600 --> 02:27:13.159 Yeah, I used my TV through the Xbox and so I'm swapping between that 2395 02:27:13.159 --> 02:27:18.159 all the time. It's but I don't know what it worked once really. 2396 02:27:18.280 --> 02:27:22.600 Yeah. Well I have multiple accounts that my loves my wife, but it 2397 02:27:22.639 --> 02:27:26.680 always recognizes my girlfriend too. It never recognizes me. The hell yeah, 2398 02:27:26.040 --> 02:27:31.559 I turned off the facial recognition stuff. I had a case where my girlfriend 2399 02:27:31.639 --> 02:27:33.120 was playing Dragon Age and I walked in front of the TV and it like 2400 02:27:33.520 --> 02:27:37.879 went crazy. It's it's kind of creepy, right, yeah, weird, 2401 02:27:37.959 --> 02:27:41.360 Like we were having a conversation, like kicked her out of the game, 2402 02:27:41.000 --> 02:27:45.559 like, what's the shitty in our eating room? At the game Informer, 2403 02:27:45.559 --> 02:27:48.719 we have a stuffed giraffe in the background, and it would always think that 2404 02:27:48.799 --> 02:27:50.879 it was our editor, Kyle Hillier, and so like I would turn it 2405 02:27:50.959 --> 02:27:54.440 on to start playing a game and be like, hello, Kyle, that's 2406 02:27:54.479 --> 02:27:56.200 the drafting. That's pretty good. Are we sure that he didn't map the 2407 02:27:56.280 --> 02:28:03.520 giraffe's face as his own for the account? He's a draft that alright, 2408 02:28:05.680 --> 02:28:09.559 Yeah, I don't know what tell me it's a class action laws, but 2409 02:28:09.639 --> 02:28:11.799 yeah, I mean, like, however Microsoft implemented it has no bearing on 2410 02:28:11.879 --> 02:28:16.680 whether or not Sony should deliver it since they promised it two freaking years ago. 2411 02:28:16.879 --> 02:28:20.319 Wasn't that the same press conference when they said that they were the remote 2412 02:28:20.520 --> 02:28:22.159 Like if you're playing a game across the country and you need to help with 2413 02:28:22.200 --> 02:28:26.120 the take over, they talked about share play there, so that happened. 2414 02:28:26.479 --> 02:28:28.920 Well that happened. No, I don't care. There's nothing that same thing, 2415 02:28:30.000 --> 02:28:31.639 and that's the same thing a share play that launch right is what you're 2416 02:28:31.680 --> 02:28:35.559 describing. You you can do that now where like that I can take control 2417 02:28:35.639 --> 02:28:37.200 of Jason's game. That was the big thing. And for More two point 2418 02:28:37.280 --> 02:28:39.360 zero, that was Oh I didn't know that one live. Okay, I've 2419 02:28:39.399 --> 02:28:45.159 heard it doesn't work super great. I'm not surprised. Work that seemed like 2420 02:28:45.200 --> 02:28:48.479 an incredible thing, like something that just sound like it just sounded too good 2421 02:28:48.520 --> 02:28:50.840 to be true. And the way they were describing it, it was just 2422 02:28:52.000 --> 02:28:54.639 it's it's subject to you know, like modern latency restrictions and stuff, you 2423 02:28:54.719 --> 02:28:56.639 know, like even I don't know if lets you take over a game or 2424 02:28:56.680 --> 02:29:00.840 if it only lets you play as player too. Yeah, the local I 2425 02:29:00.879 --> 02:29:03.959 think, but I think it does. Actually I've tried it. Sorry, 2426 02:29:03.959 --> 02:29:05.799 I think the way they build it was like, oh, I'm having so 2427 02:29:05.879 --> 02:29:09.760 much you know what it does? It does. I read a story where 2428 02:29:09.840 --> 02:29:13.840 somebody had tried that stuff, and you can play somebody's game on their system, 2429 02:29:13.920 --> 02:29:16.719 but you're playing as them and you're getting them trophies, and yeah, 2430 02:29:16.760 --> 02:29:20.760 they're getting the trophies. The same game lives on their system. I can't 2431 02:29:20.920 --> 02:29:24.840 turn, in turn into more litigation until my vitality censor lawsuits. Okay, 2432 02:29:26.079 --> 02:29:28.600 that's a lot settles, uh, I mean it might be a little hasty 2433 02:29:28.639 --> 02:29:31.040 to be talking legal action just yet, but like it would be nice to 2434 02:29:31.079 --> 02:29:33.879 figut that in there. Yeah, well that is a nice feature to have. 2435 02:29:35.239 --> 02:29:39.520 Yeah to the I mean that was in a presentation, but it was 2436 02:29:39.559 --> 02:29:43.000 it. You know, part of the Vita stuff was that it was advertised 2437 02:29:43.200 --> 02:29:46.479 in a forward facing fashion that was very specifically about the Vitas coming out. 2438 02:29:46.479 --> 02:29:50.360 You should buy it because of this. I think this might be a slightly 2439 02:29:50.399 --> 02:29:52.799 different maybe. Yeah, I don't think. I don't know that somebody has 2440 02:29:52.840 --> 02:29:54.680 ever mentioned that again since that first reveal. Yeah, I just think press 2441 02:29:54.680 --> 02:29:58.760 conferences are held to be different. It wasn't something like, it wasn't something 2442 02:29:58.760 --> 02:30:01.040 they said, but it wouldn't come with the when you bought it. So 2443 02:30:01.079 --> 02:30:07.200 but when you kind of assume assume that at the announcement of you, I 2444 02:30:07.280 --> 02:30:09.840 mean, Mike Shoft annot a lot of things about the Xbox as they end 2445 02:30:09.920 --> 02:30:13.639 up walking back. So they've more or less come through on stuff over time, 2446 02:30:13.760 --> 02:30:16.799 Like you know, they've they've been way better about updating than Sony has. 2447 02:30:18.040 --> 02:30:24.239 Sure, I hope this eventually comes together. One more email. Wait, 2448 02:30:24.319 --> 02:30:26.799 that's it? Well, I don't know, he said a couple. 2449 02:30:28.000 --> 02:30:31.120 Okay, there's some good ones though, Uh save him. We're gonna need 2450 02:30:31.159 --> 02:30:35.319 to do an all email podcast here pretty soon. Nathan from Olympia, Washington 2451 02:30:35.399 --> 02:30:37.399 wants to know, Hey, bomb cast, do any of you have your 2452 02:30:37.440 --> 02:30:41.040 picture in a steakhouse or any awards in competitive eating? I went to eye 2453 02:30:41.079 --> 02:30:43.440 Hoop with my friend once and tried to set the record, probably a local 2454 02:30:43.520 --> 02:30:48.479 record of pancakes. I ate twenty five pancakes. Wait what size? Which 2455 02:30:48.600 --> 02:30:52.600 tied into? There's probably up? There has to be it. Well, 2456 02:30:52.600 --> 02:30:54.360 it is an eye hoop, so there must be an internationally recognized standard for 2457 02:30:54.399 --> 02:30:58.840 pancake size. They might have silver dollars. Maybe I ate twenty five pancakes, 2458 02:31:00.200 --> 02:31:03.000 tied the record and could not finish the twenty sixth one. Fuck you 2459 02:31:03.280 --> 02:31:05.159 no way, And I threw up in my seat and could not even take 2460 02:31:05.200 --> 02:31:07.959 into the bathroom. All right, well that's fair. I would love my 2461 02:31:09.079 --> 02:31:11.239 name. And you're gonna call bullshit on that one. Well, like you're 2462 02:31:11.280 --> 02:31:16.959 gonna give up on that. But if you're just literally vomiting at the table. 2463 02:31:16.319 --> 02:31:18.600 That's that's more of it. At the end of your challenge, I 2464 02:31:18.639 --> 02:31:22.680 would I would love my name and picture in the Midwestern steakhouse somewhere. Anybody. 2465 02:31:22.680 --> 02:31:28.600 He's gotta find the right steadhouse. Dan, you seem like the crazy 2466 02:31:28.680 --> 02:31:31.040 eating challenge guy. I'm not here. I am a really slow eater. 2467 02:31:31.840 --> 02:31:35.280 I don't know if I got a tiny stomach or something, but I'm not 2468 02:31:35.360 --> 02:31:37.600 sure. I'm not structurally built to take that much food in. I can 2469 02:31:37.639 --> 02:31:43.959 never competitive eaters. A lot of them are at finn Yeah, there's there's 2470 02:31:43.000 --> 02:31:48.399 that Asian woman you can like put it away. I don't know, she's 2471 02:31:48.479 --> 02:31:52.200 like five two or something. Well, what's the Japanese guy's name that does 2472 02:31:52.239 --> 02:31:56.479 they? Yeah, he's tiny. Yeah, yeah, I mean Joey Chestnut 2473 02:31:56.760 --> 02:31:58.639 is not a huge guy. You know. I don't do it for the 2474 02:31:58.680 --> 02:32:05.079 sport man, do it for love passion, and he could probably do pretty 2475 02:32:05.079 --> 02:32:07.840 well in speed speed eating. Yeah, but I think speed has to cut. 2476 02:32:07.920 --> 02:32:09.840 Yeah, if you give me a small portion at this point, Like 2477 02:32:09.879 --> 02:32:13.879 I said, I don't think I can pack it away, but I can 2478 02:32:13.959 --> 02:32:16.600 put it away. I don't think I pack it away. I don't know 2479 02:32:16.719 --> 02:32:18.719 my picture anywhere. But I used to frequently eat and tire cans of easy 2480 02:32:18.799 --> 02:32:22.879 cheese in one sitting, like snack time and like fifth grade, and we 2481 02:32:22.920 --> 02:32:24.040 could bring whatever, just the cheese. Yeah. So some people would bring 2482 02:32:24.159 --> 02:32:26.159 like a thing of fruit, snacks or whatever. I would bring either sharp 2483 02:32:26.239 --> 02:32:33.120 cheddar somewhere, no crackers. I mean it was best with crackers. But 2484 02:32:33.239 --> 02:32:35.360 sometimes we didn't have any rits or cheese that I would just bring the can. 2485 02:32:35.879 --> 02:32:39.239 Sometime there's just no time, Just like a month ago, I got 2486 02:32:39.280 --> 02:32:41.520 just a can. I just ate it. Yeah, that guy packs gave 2487 02:32:41.559 --> 02:32:48.120 me a can of easy cheese. I just ate the damn time flavor directly 2488 02:32:48.200 --> 02:32:50.879 into your mouth. Yeah, like a bunch of gas coming out of that 2489 02:32:50.920 --> 02:32:52.879 thing. Fine cheese. Okay, so the cheese so much. I just 2490 02:32:54.000 --> 02:32:56.840 yeah, think gas is the problem part of that for sure. Definitely at 2491 02:32:56.920 --> 02:33:01.520 some point the chain the gas is. I just bought it can of alcohol 2492 02:33:01.600 --> 02:33:07.000 infused whipped cream. It's vanilla flavored, any good? No? No, 2493 02:33:07.200 --> 02:33:11.879 well, so I barely got any out of it that before it used all 2494 02:33:11.879 --> 02:33:15.159 the propellant and then it was just this mostly full can of oh yeah, 2495 02:33:15.159 --> 02:33:18.319 because I was helping the propellant uh, and and I it was like fourteen 2496 02:33:18.360 --> 02:33:22.600 dollars or something. I felt like I got grossly ripped off. So do 2497 02:33:22.680 --> 02:33:26.319 you guys have nutlicker around here? It's a peanut butter vodka. It's it's 2498 02:33:26.319 --> 02:33:31.959 a peanut butter something else. Yeah, it's actually really good. Great, 2499 02:33:31.239 --> 02:33:37.239 actually sounds I concur it. It's actually really a trust. I might have 2500 02:33:37.319 --> 02:33:39.959 a picture up somewhere I have done, like when I was younger, that 2501 02:33:39.040 --> 02:33:45.120 eating stuff, but I can't remember because you probably pass out after that. 2502 02:33:45.680 --> 02:33:50.159 There was an arcade bar down in Atlanta battling brew and they had something called 2503 02:33:50.239 --> 02:33:52.959 the Final Level Challenge, which is like, you know, the the buns 2504 02:33:52.000 --> 02:33:56.760 are like actually grilled cheese is like four patties and fucking beef, and like 2505 02:33:56.879 --> 02:34:01.479 once a year we'd like line up twelve people along the bar and we would 2506 02:34:01.559 --> 02:34:05.120 time everybody, uh to see how you know, fast they could eat this, 2507 02:34:05.239 --> 02:34:09.680 And there were a number of people that threw up. That's the only 2508 02:34:09.000 --> 02:34:13.159 thing that I've like competed in. I guess I think I've got my my 2509 02:34:13.239 --> 02:34:16.879 picture up on like a few bar walls maybe, but like do not serve 2510 02:34:18.559 --> 02:34:24.639 possibly we're just playing Edward forty hands on the competitive, like consuming of food 2511 02:34:24.680 --> 02:34:26.760 and beverage products rate, Like how does how does that quality? To write 2512 02:34:26.760 --> 02:34:30.680 a passage? That's something you do when you go to college. I wasn't 2513 02:34:30.719 --> 02:34:33.120 in college, and I wasn't in college. Okay, I don't think they 2514 02:34:33.159 --> 02:34:35.440 give you a college degree unless you think it was art. When we did 2515 02:34:35.719 --> 02:34:43.239 it was it was it was an art projects I had. That's not malt 2516 02:34:43.280 --> 02:34:46.680 liquor. That doesn't count. It is. But I don't know. I 2517 02:34:46.719 --> 02:34:50.680 feel like Mickey's is like classy malt liquor. Like, yes, if you're 2518 02:34:52.319 --> 02:34:56.360 if you're doing there is a definition I have never heard associated with if you're 2519 02:34:56.479 --> 02:35:01.120 doing this, you're doing cold for all these great I think cold forty five 2520 02:35:01.200 --> 02:35:03.559 is just a beer. I don't know if that's the word great should not 2521 02:35:03.760 --> 02:35:09.399 under the equation with any of these is definitely. I think you're softest forty 2522 02:35:09.600 --> 02:35:15.000 yet. Yep. Yeah, Why is it less like Saint IDEs? Is? 2523 02:35:15.319 --> 02:35:18.440 It tastes the taste of it is a little more palatable. It is 2524 02:35:18.479 --> 02:35:24.000 easier to get down head. Yeah, yeah, occasions fans. I think 2525 02:35:24.120 --> 02:35:28.719 when we did it, I had one Mickey's one oe I think I did 2526 02:35:28.799 --> 02:35:31.120 too. Yeah, I think that's fucked up. That's part of where we 2527 02:35:31.159 --> 02:35:35.159 fucked us, where you fuck up? I was fine. Ye. Standard 2528 02:35:35.479 --> 02:35:39.959 Mickey's has been involved in the three worst drinking experiences I've ever had, so 2529 02:35:41.000 --> 02:35:43.719 I have sort of a negative association with whether that's fair or not. I 2530 02:35:43.760 --> 02:35:46.280 don't know. I might have just had those anyway. But still of King 2531 02:35:46.360 --> 02:35:50.399 Cobra, Oh yeah, yeah, I like, yeah, I remember you 2532 02:35:50.520 --> 02:35:56.120 pouring most of a King Cobra out into a bathtub in like a Mercaid hotel 2533 02:35:56.280 --> 02:36:00.280 bathroom. Yeah, that sounds like something I will do. Like, drank 2534 02:36:00.360 --> 02:36:03.280 about a third of it and they were like nope, and then just poured 2535 02:36:03.319 --> 02:36:05.360 the rest of it out and people were yelling at you not to do that. 2536 02:36:05.399 --> 02:36:07.479 I could drink King Cobra. Yeah. Now, I don't know. 2537 02:36:07.639 --> 02:36:09.920 Maybe I've just earned a taste for it. Yeah maybe, but yeah, 2538 02:36:11.159 --> 02:36:13.760 it's I don't I won't drink a Camo forty. I got standards, oh 2539 02:36:13.920 --> 02:36:20.399 camera Camos Camo. I've never had. The country club is. It doesn't 2540 02:36:20.399 --> 02:36:22.120 have a strong taste to it. I don't like it. I find it 2541 02:36:22.200 --> 02:36:24.840 to be kind of like the bud Light. Yeah exactly, It's kind of 2542 02:36:24.920 --> 02:36:33.399 lame. But yeah, old English the most forty No No, I usually 2543 02:36:33.399 --> 02:36:35.959 don't get Mickey's at this point. Yep. I think that was just the 2544 02:36:37.000 --> 02:36:39.159 first forty I ever had, So that's when I think forty, I just 2545 02:36:39.200 --> 02:36:43.879 see a Mickey's bottle. I absolutely Mickey's was very popular. All the crust 2546 02:36:43.920 --> 02:36:46.639 punks I hung out with as a kid all drank Mickey's. Yeah, that's 2547 02:36:46.639 --> 02:36:50.799 a phrase I never heard until I moved out here. Crust crust punks or 2548 02:36:50.840 --> 02:36:54.200 crusty kids. I didn't what does that mean? Yeah, like basically just 2549 02:36:54.239 --> 02:36:58.440 sort of the gutterpunk, like the people who wore a ship ton of patches 2550 02:36:58.559 --> 02:37:01.879 on their denovest that was all the fuck up and you know, listen to 2551 02:37:01.000 --> 02:37:05.440 nothing but like D Side and just talked about how everything fucking sucked. Okay, 2552 02:37:05.440 --> 02:37:09.600 I don't think we have those in the Midwest. You do? You 2553 02:37:09.719 --> 02:37:11.639 do? You just don't know about him. They don't don't leave the house. 2554 02:37:13.000 --> 02:37:16.319 Yeah. I would say there is maybe a higher concentration of them on 2555 02:37:16.360 --> 02:37:20.520 the West Coast, but I feel like they are a nationwide phenomenon that's sweeping 2556 02:37:20.559 --> 02:37:24.200 the nation. Yeah, all right. In nineteen ninety six, two more 2557 02:37:24.280 --> 02:37:28.360 real Fast Alpha. North Carolina needs Jeff's help. Okay, please give me 2558 02:37:28.440 --> 02:37:33.719 your expert opinion. I received two super rare Fandangos from winning a King of 2559 02:37:33.760 --> 02:37:37.040 the Ring. Should I level them up and make a pro providing a much 2560 02:37:37.120 --> 02:37:41.680 needed boost for my deck or not? Because fuck Fandango. Fuck Fandango's sorry, 2561 02:37:41.799 --> 02:37:46.639 fuck Fandango. But if you need, if you needed to level up 2562 02:37:46.639 --> 02:37:48.319 your deck, you need to level up your deck. Yeah, I mean 2563 02:37:48.440 --> 02:37:52.479 that's I mean I rolled a super rare Darren Young for a very long time, 2564 02:37:52.559 --> 02:37:54.680 and it's not that I hate Darren Young, but I have no opinion 2565 02:37:54.760 --> 02:37:56.920 really of Darren Young for the most part. But it just take what you 2566 02:37:56.920 --> 02:37:58.120 can get. When he was good, he did, but I needed to 2567 02:37:58.120 --> 02:38:01.399 take what you can get and you feed one to the other. Yeah, 2568 02:38:01.680 --> 02:38:05.159 that's how you make them into a pro card. Is that cannibalism when you 2569 02:38:05.239 --> 02:38:09.639 eat yourself. Yeah, long pig. I spent more time thinking about this 2570 02:38:09.719 --> 02:38:11.920 than I would care to admit, but yes, I believe it is. 2571 02:38:11.000 --> 02:38:13.440 You need to level up both those cards to the max, then combine them, 2572 02:38:13.479 --> 02:38:18.120 then level up that combined card. Feed all the cards that combined card. 2573 02:38:18.920 --> 02:38:22.040 That sounds like an expert piece of advice. Dan Martin has a short 2574 02:38:22.120 --> 02:38:26.200 question for you. Okay, in an episode of Mettled Your Scandal and Dan 2575 02:38:26.360 --> 02:38:30.559 use the phrase already paying dividends? Dan, what are dividends? They are 2576 02:38:31.040 --> 02:38:35.120 certain stocks will give you a dividend payoffs on a certain schedule. Uh. 2577 02:38:35.360 --> 02:38:41.079 And sometimes you know, I don't know how to explain it that well, 2578 02:38:41.079 --> 02:38:43.280 I know I have stocks and every once in a while it'll be like dividend 2579 02:38:43.280 --> 02:38:46.879 pay like I just got like fourteen free bucks that I think that counts. 2580 02:38:46.920 --> 02:38:52.959 That was accepted. That was quite as a fairly articulate explanation. Actually benefit, 2581 02:38:54.000 --> 02:38:56.159 that's supposed to an incentive for you to get a company stocks like, 2582 02:38:56.200 --> 02:38:56.959 oh, they've got dividends. You know. You know what, Dan, 2583 02:38:58.040 --> 02:39:01.120 you just knew something I didn't. So you win this round. There you 2584 02:39:01.200 --> 02:39:05.639 go, always surprising us, all right, last one, even though they 2585 02:39:05.680 --> 02:39:09.959 were actually a lot of good emails this week. Everybody loves these dj from 2586 02:39:11.120 --> 02:39:20.200 Meldon Australia. What that okay? Yeah? Hey, Bombar Darrow's. I 2587 02:39:20.239 --> 02:39:22.319 asked my girlfriend what she thought you all looked like After eight plus years of 2588 02:39:22.399 --> 02:39:26.479 listening to your voices since the game spot days, the results were illuminating. 2589 02:39:28.319 --> 02:39:33.280 Drew Pale, where's a tight shirt? Messy pants? Maybe ripped? Pulled 2590 02:39:33.360 --> 02:39:37.799 up, socks skinny and a little short. War's dated, old glasses graying 2591 02:39:37.959 --> 02:39:46.920 but in a salt and pepper ways, like have like things attached to the 2592 02:39:48.319 --> 02:39:52.239 likes. I'm thinking like pants that aren't quite long enough so you can see 2593 02:39:52.239 --> 02:39:54.959 the socks pulled up. Okay, okay, I'm sorry, what else that's 2594 02:39:54.959 --> 02:40:01.079 my guess? Okay, pants are immaculated. I'm know what MESSI pants even 2595 02:40:01.120 --> 02:40:09.879 mean? Dan red hair, average stature, slightly slashy, where's black? 2596 02:40:09.239 --> 02:40:16.760 Peculiar nose? Doesn't sound annoying, but probably looks annoying. Looks looks annoying. 2597 02:40:16.840 --> 02:40:20.319 Nice laugh, These are very like detailed. Yeah, I wish you 2598 02:40:20.399 --> 02:40:24.760 could just sort of like chow us what she drew or whatever? You think 2599 02:40:24.799 --> 02:40:26.520 that I think these are. These are just herbal descriptions. Okay you think 2600 02:40:26.559 --> 02:40:31.840 that Brad Seth Rogan, Okay, all right, yeah, I'm fair. 2601 02:40:31.239 --> 02:40:35.799 Not the first time I've gotten that. Jeff Hello tall, where's a cap 2602 02:40:35.920 --> 02:40:43.719 with flicky dark hair? Darting eyes, doesn't sleep, loves coffee, Actually 2603 02:40:43.840 --> 02:40:50.959 he loves caffeine, not coffee, gentle giant, A half of that is 2604 02:40:50.000 --> 02:40:52.639 true? Then, then she heard the segment where you discussed Wendy is in 2605 02:40:52.760 --> 02:40:58.479 and out for fifteen minutes and said, actually they're all fat, not all. 2606 02:41:00.559 --> 02:41:03.959 I'm more like a skinny fat. So keep the coming, get you 2607 02:41:05.120 --> 02:41:09.959 get your loved ones in on the action. These are always amusing. BombCast 2608 02:41:09.040 --> 02:41:13.559 at giant bomb dot com is where you should send your emails if you want 2609 02:41:13.600 --> 02:41:16.079 them red on the air. Hopefully we'll do more next week. Uh, 2610 02:41:16.559 --> 02:41:18.840 there's a weird podcast. There was a lot of stuff to talk about. 2611 02:41:20.040 --> 02:41:24.120 Yeah, and it's gotten us to this point and we are also you know, 2612 02:41:24.280 --> 02:41:28.239 thinking it. We are Oh my god, this is like our six 2613 02:41:28.399 --> 02:41:31.280 or seven of podcasting today and you guys still have a power podcast to do 2614 02:41:31.680 --> 02:41:37.120 ye and a Sphere podcast tomorrow. But yes, we we have completed all 2615 02:41:37.159 --> 02:41:39.840 of our Game of the Year deliberations at this point yep, and have a 2616 02:41:39.920 --> 02:41:45.639 lot of video stuff to produce in the coming hours. Yeah. Before the 2617 02:41:46.200 --> 02:41:48.239 you these people that are not from this office. Yeah, see, everybody 2618 02:41:52.040 --> 02:41:56.000 really bummed when you guys leave. It's been really cool having guys. Someone 2619 02:41:56.040 --> 02:41:58.680 has ever said that about me nice having a full office? Yeah, I 2620 02:41:58.719 --> 02:42:05.040 said, a bunch of people around you, like a full office with a 2621 02:42:05.040 --> 02:42:09.520 lot of people. Ane comes in New York because that office is nothing but 2622 02:42:09.639 --> 02:42:11.440 folk. Oh I heard there was quite quite a few people. There are 2623 02:42:11.600 --> 02:42:16.360 many frammed into that office. All the lights are on. Yeah, if 2624 02:42:16.399 --> 02:42:20.399 you guys noticed that for the past few days that we've been doing podcasts in 2625 02:42:20.479 --> 02:42:26.959 this room, the ones that do podcasts every week have separated each other by 2626 02:42:28.079 --> 02:42:37.799 one person that we're not sitting next to our normal aggressive or or maybe the 2627 02:42:37.879 --> 02:42:43.600 ones that don't do it decided to sit next to somebody that they love or 2628 02:42:46.000 --> 02:42:50.559 yeah, yeah, all right, yeah, sure, yes, but yeah, 2629 02:42:50.600 --> 02:42:52.600 that's gonna do it for this week. I guess content is still probably 2630 02:42:52.600 --> 02:42:56.959 a little light, uh most of them. Yeah, we'll be getting into 2631 02:42:56.959 --> 02:43:00.520 productions, a bunch of videos. We have to shoot our own, lots 2632 02:43:00.559 --> 02:43:03.760 of video let other stuff. We still yeah, we still want to get 2633 02:43:03.159 --> 02:43:05.840 quick look at the crew out, some other ships. Two other things that 2634 02:43:05.920 --> 02:43:11.280 knew. Lauracroft games out this week. Okay, ye that Destiny thing. 2635 02:43:11.680 --> 02:43:16.399 Yes, it watches in five hours. Jesus Christ. What do we do 2636 02:43:16.959 --> 02:43:20.399 nothing? Oh, because we're podcasting. All right, I'm just gonna start 2637 02:43:20.440 --> 02:43:24.239 stream at one am. Okay, all right, thanks for listening. This 2638 02:43:24.319 --> 02:43:26.840 has been the Giant BombCast. We'll be back with more next week.