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Of all the legends from the days
of gunslingers and desperadoes, no one fires

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our collective imagination more than Billy the
Kid. Now maybe that's because no outline

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better blurred the lines between good and
bad. He's actually going to jail,

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and he's probably going to be hanged, and yet he's laughing about it.

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From his point of view, he
would have been killed within a matter of

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days if he hadn't killed them first. But at the same time, I

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think that's not a justification for murder. If the law had not been so

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incredibly corrupt, he wouldn't be in
this situation. The Kid had learned a

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hard truth about the way the world
worked in New Mexico. Just a few

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years earlier, he'd been a skinny, orphan boy from New York City.

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Calling themselves the regulators, they vowed
to dispense their own brand of justice.

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Now Billy was the most feared man
in New Mexico. The people he was

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fighting against, even the ones who
were on the side of the law,

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were brooks. These were not fine, outstanding citizens who were being gunned down.

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William Henry McCarty alias William Antram alias
Kid Antram, alias William H.

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Bonnie alias Billy the Kid. Yeah, I'll make your things. The best

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part about researching Billy the Kid is
the fact that not even historians can agree

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on his early years. So what
I had to do was I had to

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research all kinds of different shit and
I kind of put it all together and

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I went by what historians would say
the most of So basically, if five

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historians said this and three historians said
that, I'm going to go with what

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the five agreed on. So this
is pretty much what I came up with.

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And I will tell you right now, after researching Billy the Kid,

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I have a whole new respect for
this guy, man, I truly do.

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Yeah. He was at times a
cold blooded murderer, as you're going

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to find out, he was a
victim of circumstance more often than not.

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It's really interesting. So let's go
ahead and get rolling here. Now.

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He was supposedly born William Henry McCarty
junior, and he was born in either

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eighteen fifty nine or eighteen sixty one. They believe his birthday is November twenty

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third, and they say that he
was born in New York. His father

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is unknown. His mother was Catherine
McCarty who was an Irish immigrant who came

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to America during the Great Potato Famine
over in Ireland. Now, he did

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have a brother who was named Joe. Even history oriens can't agree on when

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he was born. His death certificate
says he was born in eighteen fifty four,

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which would make him older than Billy, But Joe himself and there are

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documents that correlate with this, says
he was born in eighteen sixty three,

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which would make him Billy's younger brother. They can't agree on whether Billy was

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born in New York or if he
was born in Anderson, Indiana, which

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is just kick ass in my book
because I'm from Indiana. So the reason

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they think he was born in New
York is because, ironically enough, in

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eighteen sixty one, there is a
kid that shows up getting a baptism that

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is going by the name Henry McCarty. They're not one hundred percent sure if

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this is him, though, because
his father is unknown. There's so many

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stories about his father. It has
suspected that his dad was a guy named

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Michael McCarty who had died in the
Civil War. That's unconfirmed. Is also

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stated that they believe young William McCarty
might have been an illegitimate child. And

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where this comes from is Catherine,
his mother. When historians would try to

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talk to her family, her surviving
family about her, they literally would change

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the subject and would not really acknowledge
her. So that would kind of give

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the idea that maybe these kids were
illegitimate. Now we do not know that.

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Even his birthday of November twenty third
is not certain. The only person

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that said his birthday was on November
twenty third was in Pat Garrett's biography of

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Billy the Kid, and I believe
it was titled The Authentic Life of Billy

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the Kid. The thing about it
is is his co author on this book

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that person's birthday just so happens to
be on November twenty third as well,

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So they think they really didn't know, and they just kind of inserted that

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birthday in there and just everybody accepted
it as fact. So we really don't

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know. Most historians will say that
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eighteen fifty nine, in New York. Now where Indiana comes into play is

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this is the first official record per
a census and Anderson, Indiana on June

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eighteenth, eighteen sixty eight, there
was a census taken, like I said,

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and Katherine McCarty does show up,
and she states that she has two

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boys that go by William, Henry
McCarty and Joseph McCarty. While they are

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living in Anderson, Indiana, this
is where Katherine meets a guy named William

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Antrim. She has like a laundry
business. She's washing people's clothes, she's

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baking stuff. She's pretty much trying
to get by any way that she can.

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William Antrim not much is known about
his past up until he comes into

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contact with Catherine. He really doesn't
care about the Bays too much. Young

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Joseph and William. He really,
you know, he just kind of wanted

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Catherine. And as we're gonna come
to find out, William Antram was probably

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not the best husband or father figure
that these boys could have had. They

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are going through a courtship for a
couple of years. On August tenth,

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eighteen seventy, they move their little
family to Wichita, Kansas. Actually is

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right outside of Wichita, Kansas,
and Katherine is actually in the papers here.

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This is documented. She is a
business leader. She opens up her

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laundry business again she's doing pretty well
for herself. But this is also around

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the time that she is diagnosed with
consumption, which is also known as tuberculosis

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at the time the infection of the
lungs, so she needs to move to

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a less humid climate. They need
to go do somewhere dry and possibly warmer,

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So in August of eighteen seventy one
they leave for a dryer climate because

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of the consumption. The next time
we see them pop up is in Denver,

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Colorado, in October of eighteen seventy
two. Now they really weren't there

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too long from what I could find
out, because they later end up moving

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to Santa Fe. And how we
know this is because on March first,

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eighteen seventy three, William Antrim and
Catherine McCarty are married in Santa Fe where

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Little Billy was a witness and he
signed the marriage certificate as the witness.

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He signed it to little Harry McCarty, which is absolutely adorable. I don't

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even know why. But so from
here on she's still doing her business.

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You know, she's washing clothes,
she's baking stuff for people. Now,

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right around this time, in April
of eighteen seventy three, they move the

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Antrim family to Silver City, New
Mexico. William wants to start work as

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a prospector. There's silver mines popping
up everywhere. Everybody's wanting to get their

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riches, so they do settle in
Silver City. Catherine starts washing clothes,

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she starts baking, selling those baked
goods, and she even takes on boarders

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in her house to make ends meet. William, on the other hand,

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is pretty much a piece of shit. He is running around, never really

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around. He's always trying to make
his riches. He's off in the silver

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mines. Whatever little money he does
make he spends. He has a gambling

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addiction. He's a heavy drinker,
and like I said, he really doesn't

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care too much. Dude's just not
around. But Billy and Joe, on

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the other hand, are doing fairly
well. Billy is doing good in school.

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His personality starts coming out right about
now, and from schoolmates that did

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go to school with young William McCarty, they said his personality was kick ass.

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He just was happy, go lucky, real care free. It is

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said that he had like a little
bit of protruding buck teeth, but he

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was still a ladies man because of
that. Personality. Everybody got along with

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him really, really well. Another
thing that we did find out is that

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he's a hell of a dancer because
picture this if you can, young Billy.

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The kid is a dancer because him
and his mom used to go to

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town dances. She taught him how
to dance. So this kind of helped

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his reputation of being a little bit
of a ladies man. The girls did

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love him, and like I said, everything's going great. You know,

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this kind of gets bad around September
of eighteen seventy four, after four were

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months of bed rest because of her
consumption. On September sixteenth, eighteen seventy

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four, Catherine dies from her consumption, also known as tuberculosis. William Antrim

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was not around when his wife died. He was off doing whatever the hell

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he was doing. But before she
does die, she arranges for the boys

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to be taken in by a neighbor
of hers. That right there is just

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crazy admirable because this woman's working three
different jobs taking care of these two boys,

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raising little gentlemen for the most part, and her husband's off whatever.

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Her husband doesn't even come back for
her funeral, so they get taken in

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by this neighbor. What happens is
when William Antrum ends up coming back,

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he does not want anything to do
with these boys. He doesn't want anything

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dragging him down. He doesn't want
anything to do with them, so he

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takes off for Clifton, Arizona and
leaves the boys behind. Now, at

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this point, this death of his
mother just devastated Billy all right, like

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this was his rock. This was
the one person in his life that was

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stationary, that loved him unconditionally,
that was always there for him, and

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she's gone. He gets pushed off
to a neighbor's house and he's not doing

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bad, but obviously he's dealing with
some shit. He's just a young kid

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at this point in time, he's
thirteen years old. Now. While he

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was living with these neighbors, he
does, in early of eighteen seventy five,

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get his first arrest, and believe
it or not, he gets arrested

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for stealing butter from a rancher and
trying to sell it to a local merchant.

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Now, because Billy is friends with
the sheriff's kid and his name was

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Sheriff Whitehill, you know, they
ran around together and stuff, all he

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gets is a little bit of some
verbal discipline, you know, the Sheriff's

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is like, hey, you know, this ain't the road you want to

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go down. We're not gonna get
you in too much trouble. Just get

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your shit together, quit steal and
stuff. Now, at this point in

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time, he is also bouncing around
two different houses, different little foster homes.

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He has no stationary place to live, so it's not out of the

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realm of possibility that he's trying to
make a living. He's on his own

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at thirteen fourteen years old. So
he starts getting into a little bit of

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more trouble and on September twenty third, eighteen seventy five, young William Henry

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McCarty is arrested again, this time
for stealing laundry. Now I have heard

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a couple of different variations of this
story. Here's the first version of the

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story that we have. Billy,
the kid, ends up meeting with this

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guy named Sombrero Jack. Shit you
not, that's the name that this guy

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goes by. He's pretty much a
local hoodlum whatever. Now, Sombrero Jack

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has Billy steal these clothes from a
local Chinaman. Now, unfortunately, this

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was a different time and the whole
thinking process behind this was that if they

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stole from this guy, the local
authorities probably wouldn't really care too much because

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he was a foreigner. Unfortunately,
that was the mindset in this time.

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It was a different era. You
know, if they would have gotten caught,

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then Billy wouldn't have really gotten in
trouble because he was still just a

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young kid. Now, he was
supposed to take these clothes, hide him,

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and then meet up with Sombrero Jack
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And supposedly he had stolen a couple
of pistols as well. That is unconfirmed.

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I only heard that in a couple
places. But the other story that

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I heard is that basically Sombrero Jack
stole the clothes and he told Billy that

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he would give him some clothes if
he ended up getting caught, then Billy

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would take the fall. Well,
Billy's living in a boarding house at this

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point in time, and he does
end up getting caught, the lady who

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was running the house comes in to
check on his room, clean his room,

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or whatever, finds the clothes,
reports it to the local authorities.

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The local authority just happens to be
Sheriff Whitehill, who had arrested Billy previously,

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so he is you familiar with him. He knows Billy. What they

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do is he kind of wants to
prove a point to Billy, so he

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arrests him and he puts him in
a jail cell. Now, at this

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point in time, they had traveling
judges, so Billy could have been sitting

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in jail for a few months waiting
for a judge to come around, in

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which case he probably would have gotten
nothing more than probably another warning is slap

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on the wrist. Maybe they'd put
him to work for a little bit.

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But Billy doesn't know this, and
he's just a local kid, and the

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sheriff knows him. So when they
put him in jail, they don't actually

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put him in a cell. They
just kind of let him roam around in

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that area and don't really keep an
eye on him. Well, the sheriff

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goes out to dinner on September twenty
fifth, just a couple of days later,

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and when he comes back, Billy's
gone. The sheriff is looking,

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He's like, how the hell did
he get out of here? Well,

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what Billy does is he goes up
the chimney. You know, they look

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up the chimney, and they can
see in the soot, they can see,

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you know, a little hand and
footprints going all the way up the

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chimney. Billy climbed his little body
all the way up there, got out

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the top, jumped off the roof, stole a horse, and took off.

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But this also makes Billy a fugitive
at the tender age of about sixteen.

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So it's a pretty interesting little story
right there, because, as you'll

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come to find, Billy is kind
of the Hoodini of the wild West.

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This guy literally escaped so many times
and got out of so much shit that

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it's honestly amazing. So what Billy
does is he ends up going to Clifton,

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Arizona to try to track down William
Antrum, basically to take him in

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to ask him for help, any
kind of help that he has. Well,

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he does end up finding his stepfather, and you know, he tells

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him what happened, and his stepfather
pretty much tells him to get out of

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there, and I don't want anything
to do with you, just to leave.

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So Billy literally is on his own, and he's on the run and

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unforgiving territory, and he is technically
a fugitive So the next time young Billy

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turns up is right around April of
eighteen seventy six, and he's hanging around

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a Camp Grant, Arizona or Fort
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it as. And he's working at
a hotel there, washing dishes and cooking

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some food, a little place called
the Hotel de Luna. This is where

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he meets up with a guy named
John Mackie, and Mackie starts getting him

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into stealing horses and stealing saddles.
And he's not just stealing them from anybody,

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he's stealing them from the soldiers who
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Arizona. This is where Billy starts
really getting into some trouble. Now Billy

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is a horse thief, a saddle
thief. He's stealing from the soldiers based

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at this camp there in Arizona.
And this is where he starts hanging out

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with a little bit of the rougher
crowd. He's playing cards, he's gambling,

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he's drinking, and mind you,
at this point in time, he's

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still merely right around sixteen years old. So in March twenty fifth, eighteen

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seventy seven, after months of doing
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caught. They are confined at Camp
Grant. Billy escapes later that night and

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again he is on the run.
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he still hangs out in that area
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this is where Billy officially kills his
first man. Now, the circumstances

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of this are extremely interesting because around
Camp Grant there's a local blacksmith named Frank

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k Hill, known as Wendy k
Hill. He was known to bully young

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Billy the kid quite bad. He
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He would open hand slap him in
the face. He would humiliate him in

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front of everybody, and Billy just
kinda took it until August eighteenth, eighteen

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seventy seven, when they were playing
cards and Wendy k Hill refers to Billy

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as a pimp and a son of
a bitch. Well, he's throws Billy

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to the ground from what witnesses say, about three times, and he takes

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his knees and he pins him on
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backface has his back to the ground. He's on the ground he's got

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him pinned down, and he's literally
just open hand slapping Billy in the face,

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just being a total asshole. They're
kind of wrestling around a little bit,

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and Billy manages to get one of
his arms free and manages to grab

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a pistol and he takes a shot
and hits Ky Hill right in the gut.

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Now, Kayhill slumps over. Billy
kind of wiggles free. Now he

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takes off, gets it onto the
nearest horse that he can find, and

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starts riding off. And his luck
would have it, the horse that he

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steals is a racing horse. So
Billy is gone into the sunset. Now,

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all these witnesses, there were several
witnesses to this incident that said this

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was a clear cut case of self
defense. This guy had it coming.

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What was Billy supposed to do?
You know what I'm saying. The only

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person who did not think it was
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Literally, everybody that was a witness, everybody that was asked, everybody

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that was there, says it was
a clear cut case of self defense.

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Billy had no choice. So it
doesn't take long for him to get captured

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by local soldiers. Now the best
part about this is is because, like

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I said, Billy is about seventeen
eighteen years old at this point in time,

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and the soldiers take pity on him
because he tells them the story of

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what happened. So they let him
go. But they tell him when they

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let him go, you are a
wanted fugitive for murder. Whether it was

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in self defense or not. You
didn't stick around to find out, you

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didn't stick around to go to court, so technically you are a fugitive wanted

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for murder. Billy doesn't care.
He takes off and he leaves for New

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Mexico. Now, while he's on
his way to New Mexico, I'm not

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one hundred percent sure if it's in
New Mexico or on his way there,

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he runs in to some Apache American
Indians. These Apache take his guns,

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they take his horse, and they
pretty much leave Billy for dead out in

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the middle of the desert. Now, I cannot stress enough for those of

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you not familiar with the American Southwest, this is unforgiving territory. If you

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do not have food, water,
a horse, and a weapon of any

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kind, you will for sure die. So Billy's out here wandering around for

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a few days, damn near close
to death, and he stumbles upon a

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shack. I believe the shack is
owned by the Joneses, I'm not one

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hundred percent sure. Well, this
lady, the lady of the house,

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takes him in and pretty much nurses
him back to health. Now, like

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I said, Billy was very very
close to death. He was extremely dehydrated

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at this point in time, and
these apache beat the hell out of this

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kid. So he gets a nurse
back to health and they give him a

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horse and tell him, you know, hey, go ahead, get out

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of here, do what you gotta
do. And it is at this point

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in time that Billy does change his
name to William H. Bonnie. So

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the next time he shows up is
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This is right around September, and
he joins a little gang known as

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the Boys, led by Jesse Evans. This gang is also known as the

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Jesse Evans Gang. And these dudes
are legit. They are a gang of

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killers and rustlers. Now Billy,
who is no stranger to danger, he

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has nothing else to lose. He's
a young kid and he literally has to

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hold his own He pretty much has
to stay claim to a reputation that he

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is not one to be messed with. These guys are older, they've been

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around. These are some rough guys, okay, And Billy starts riding with

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these guys at at the age of
seventeen or eighteen. So the next time

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he shows up is October of eighteen
seventy seven, when the boys ride into

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Lincoln County. And it is at
this point in time that a man named

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Frank Coe actually writes about Billy the
Kid. What he writes about is his

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ability with pistols. It's really really
interesting because he's talking about how Billy can

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twirl his pistols while they are cocked
one in each hand going the opposite way.

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There's lots of stories out there about
Old West gunslingers, but this is

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the first documented thing that I saw
about Billy the Kid that someone actually commented

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on his abilities with the pistol and
how fast he was and how skilled he

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was with him. I'll think about
it. Billy didn't have nothing else to

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do. He was out here doing
his thing, living his life, you

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know, and he had a lot
of time to get really good with those

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pistols. I would like to touch
base a little bit on what's going on

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at Lincoln County at this point in
time. All Right, in the early

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eighteen seventies, two guys named Lawrence
Murphy and James Dolan opened the only store

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in all of Lincoln County. They
call it the Murphy and Dolan Merchantile and

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Banking. Now what they are doing
is they have a shipload of cattle and

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a shitload of ranches. And what
they do is they get these government contracts.

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Now they owned all the cattle,
and they owned the only store that

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sells meet in all of Lincoln County. Now, to put this into perspective,

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Lincoln County at this point in time
is the size of Ireland. This

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is a huge, massive county.
And for them to own the only cattle,

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have a government contract, and own
the only store that sells their own

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meat, they literally have a monopoly
going on it. They have bought all

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the local politicians, they have bought
all the local law enforcement, which is

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only one guy. They have one
sheriff in this entire county that goes by

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the name of Sheriff William Brady.
Now what Dolan and Murphy do is they

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form this faction and they call it
the House now the House, because they

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literally are rich and extremely powerful.
They control everything in Lincoln County. If

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you want to buy something, trade
something, sell something in Lincoln County,

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you have to go through the House
and there's not much of anybody to stop

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them. They have everybody in their
pocket. So what happens now is in

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February of eighteen seventy seven, an
Englishman shows up in Lincoln County. Now,

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besides the fact that English and the
Irish are not exactly friendly in this

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county, I'm not sure about the
rest of the world, but they do

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have their differences. This guy's name
is John Tunstall. He's an English banker

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and he ended up coming from Victoria, British Columbia, and he wanted to

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invest in some cattle. He had
some money to invest somewhere, and he

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knew there was a lot of money
in the cattle trade down in Lincoln County,

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around the Pecos Valley area. What
he does is he hooks up with

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a guy named Alexander McSween. Now
McSween was a former lawyer for the House.

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I'm not exactly sure why he ended
up wanting to leave the House and

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go into business with Tunstall, but
that is how it happens. Now,

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what they do is McSween pretty much
hooks him up with this guy named John

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Chisholm. Now John Chisholm is a
cattle baron. He is literally known as

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the King of Pecos Valley because he
owns tens upon thousands of heads of cattle.

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When he moved cattle from the Pecos
Valley, he moved a hundred thousand

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head of cattle at a time.
This is a lot of money right here.

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And what he does is John Chisholm
decides that he wants in on this

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too because he knows there's a lot
of money to be made in Lincoln because

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as of right now, there's only
one store there which are owned by the

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House Murphy and Dolan. Now John
Chisholm's wanting to expand, so he thinks

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it's a great idea to back McSween
Tunstall. Not only does the House have

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the sheriff the local politicians in their
pocket, they also have the governor of

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the territory, guy by the name
of Governor Axtel in their pocket as well.

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So they literally are doing whatever they
want, whenever they want. And

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it is said that one of the
reasons. A lot of the locals they

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hated the House. All the local
rounding Lincoln County and in Lincoln County could

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not stand the House because it was
a monopoly. They literally did whatever they

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wanted. Some of the lands in
the surrounding areas. The House would write

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up fake foreclosure papers, they would
act like they weren't getting paid. They

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would go foreclose on people's land,
take their shit, take their assets.

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People hated the House. So when
they see this competition opening up, naturally

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they start going to that competition.
Now, what the House does is they

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start putting a lot of political pressure
on Tunstall and McSween. They do that

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through like bullshit, little court cases
and everything like that little political bullshit.

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But Tunstall is a smart guy and
he literally refuses to give into them.

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So at this point they start threatening
violence. So this is kind of where

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we jump back to the Billy timeline
because when they start threatening violence, Tunstall

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knows that he needs protection. He
has to hire some tough guys from the

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area. This guy is way out
of his element. The way he did

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business was different than Dolan and Murphy. Dolan was known to literally kill anybody

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that got in his way. That's
not how John Tunstall did shit. That's

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not how they did stuff in England
at the time. Like I said,

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this was the American wild West.
There were no rules. Now, while

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all this inner fighting in Lincoln County, it's pretty much a merchant war.

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It's referred to as account of war, but it is technically a merchant war

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because in the fall of eighteen seventy
seven, the house is losing a lot

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of money. They are almost struggling
to stay afloat at this point in time

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because of the competition of Tunstall and
McSween. We jump back into Billy.

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This is October of eighteen seventy seven
when Bill and Jesse Evans and the boys

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gang ride back into Lincoln County.
Now, right around in November of eighteen

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seventy seven, the boys are stealing
cattle from anybody that they could. They

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were stealing cattle from the house side, they were stealing cattle from the Tunstall

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side. They were stealing cattle from
John Chisholm. They were wrestlers, they

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were killers, they were trying to
make a living. So Billy gets caught

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stealing a couple of horses from John
Tunstall. Now it is right directly around

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this time, not one hundred percent
sure of win, but Billie and Jesse

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Evans have a little bit of a
falling out. Billy ends up getting caught

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stealing those horses from John Tunstall,
so he ends up going to jail there

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in Lincoln County. Now, while
the threats of violence against John Tunstall start

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growing and growing, McSween suggests that, hey, you know, maybe you

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should hire some tough guys. Maybe
you should hire some cowboys to help protect

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your ass dude, because these guys
are powerful men. They do not care.

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They have local law in their pocket. So John Tunstall goes to the

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Lincoln County jail and he gets Billy
out, and he offers Billy a chance

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to work on his ranch. His
official title was a cattle guard. He

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says, I'll give you a job. You can work the ranch. You

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offer me protection basically as a bodyguard, and I will make sure that you

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are taken care of. And he
gets Billy out of jail. Now,

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Billy agrees to this because this is
a chance that he has really never been

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given before. You got to think
of what this kid has been through in

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the last two three years. This
guy that he has no idea who he

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is is literally getting him out of
jail after stealing his cattle and his horses

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and giving him a job. So
Billy wants to go straight. He's like,

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yeah, this is a great opportunity
for me to have like a real

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job and not do stupid shit anymore. So he gets he gets out of

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jail. Now John Tunstall gives him
a horse and a rifle. There's a

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good possibility this is the first gifts
that Billy the Kid has ever been given

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in his life. He's got to
a strange guy who he literally got caught

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stealing from, who is giving him
a job, and all he's got to

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do is offer him a little bit
of protection, guards some of his cattle.

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So he's just kind of thrown back
by it. But because John Tunstall

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gave him this opportunity, despite who
he was, Billy at this point in

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time just has gained so much respect. He respects John Tunstall like no other.

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It's a really cool thing. It's
a really cool thing to get in

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depth with. Especially you know,
I'm no psychologist, but you got to

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put yourself in Billy's shoes right now. Billy is not the only local gun

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slinger that Tunstall hires. He hires
quite a few other guys as well,

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because he knows some shit is about
to go down now. At the same

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time he's hiring all these gun slingers
and guys to protect his cattle, the

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House is doing the same thing.
Well, what the House does is they

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go and hire Jesse Evans and some
of the boys gang that Billy used to

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ride with to do the same thing. Be little bodyguards, offer protection pretty

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much, just go and do the
dirty work. So, like I had

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mentioned before, Billy literally walked into
a really bad situation. But he made

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a friend in John Tunstall, somebody
who believed in him and gave him a

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chance. So he is very,
very loyal to the Englishman. By February

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of eighteen seventy eight, the House
is losing a lot of money to Tunstall

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in mcsween's other store that they had
opened up. They are hurting really,

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really bad. So what they do
is they go to the local politicians.

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And here's why the House is particularly
mad at Alexander McSween at this point in

409
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:22.239
time, because Alexander McSween is the
executor of a will of a deceased member

410
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:27.079
of the House. Guy by the
name of Fritz. Now, Dolan and

411
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:32.199
Murphy had one hundred thousand dollars life
insurance policy on this guy, and McSween

412
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.280
refuses to sign off to pay the
house the insurance money. Now, the

413
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:42.159
House needs this money to stay afloat, so they take it to court,

414
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:46.119
and of course the court is in
the House's pocket, so they side with

415
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:53.000
the house. McSween still refuses to
sign off on this life insurance policy and

416
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:59.480
award the money to the house because
he knows the entire court case was total

417
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:04.519
bullshit because all these dudes are still
paid off. So this is when things

418
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:09.719
start getting really really hairy. On
February eighteenth, eighteen seventy eight, the

419
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:13.840
kid in, some of the other
ranch hands that Tunstall had hired, and

420
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:19.320
Tunstall himself are herding horses into Lincoln. This is like a whole day long

421
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.760
thing. Some say that there were
some wild turkeys around, so Billy and

422
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:27.320
a couple of ranch hands rode off
to go shoot some turkeys, and while

423
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:31.239
they were off in the distance,
they see Dolan and Sheriff Brady's men.

424
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:37.320
Tunstall, who is a pretty calm
and collective guy, and unfortunately he thinks

425
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:43.280
words can settle disputes in this land, and that cannot be further from the

426
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:47.159
truth. So what happens is Sheriff
Brady's men, because what it was with

427
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:53.679
Sheriff Brady organized a posse. He
was the main organizer to go serve warrants

428
00:35:54.199 --> 00:36:00.800
to collect some of Tunstall's assets since
McSween wasn't paying the hundred thousand dollars life

429
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:06.000
insurance policy. It was basically a
bunch of written up, fake bullshit.

430
00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.920
It was just a way for the
house to get back at Tunstall. Well,

431
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:14.960
they go off, they go to
serve these quote unquote warrants and sees

432
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:20.079
a bunch of his shit. Well
Tunstall starts writing up to him. Brady's

433
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:24.599
men are quoted as saying wait till
he gets a little bit closer. Now.

434
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:29.480
When Tunstall is riding towards them to
try to talk to them, he

435
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.320
is shot one time with a rifle
and knocked off his horse. At that

436
00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:37.159
point in time, one of the
members of the posse walks up and puts

437
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.280
a single shot in the back at
Tunstall's head. Now, Billy and the

438
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:45.000
rest of the guys see this,
and not because Billy's a coward, but

439
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:50.000
because he does have a little bit
of common sense. They take off because

440
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:53.039
they know there's nothing they can do. Otherwise there's a good chance they're probably

441
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:57.880
gonna get killed too. It.
Now, to add insult to injury,

442
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:02.079
what they do is they not only
shoot Tunstall, but they shoot his horse

443
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:09.239
too, and they position them like
they are taking a nap together, just

444
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:15.559
as a form of humiliation. They
put a gun in Tunstall's hand and they

445
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.679
go back and say, well,
he fired on us first. We had

446
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:22.960
no other choice. And of course
it's the law. The Sheriff Brady organized

447
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:27.960
the posse. He had the law
in their pocket. The house controlled everything,

448
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.800
ran everything, so there was literally
nothing that these guys could do.

449
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.039
Now, while Tunstall is being buried, a guy named Fred Waite and a

450
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:42.440
guy named Martinez, they attempt to
serve warrants to the men who murdered Tunstall,

451
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:46.199
but they are pretty quickly disarmed.
They got their weapons taken from him,

452
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:51.800
and Sheriff Brady throws them in jail. Now Martinez is allowed to leave.

453
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:58.880
Billy and Fred Waite are held prisoner
until after Tunstall's funeral. They are

454
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:02.800
released on February where twenty third,
eighteen seventy eight, after spending a couple

455
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.239
days in jail, and it is
said at this point, and it's unconfirmed,

456
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:13.519
but I've read this in more than
one place that while standing over the

457
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:17.440
grave of John Tunstall, Billy the
Kid known as William H. Bonnie at

458
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:23.119
this point in time, swears revenge
on every single person that killed his friend.

459
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:29.400
Tunstall's foreman was a guy named Dick
Brewer. Dick Brewer was a very

460
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:34.719
respected guy in Lincoln County at this
point in time, and he was also

461
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.920
respected by Billy. He was a
very level headed, smart guy. He

462
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:45.760
was a leader. He gets appointed
constable and they have a good enough argument

463
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:53.800
to justify being able to serve warrants
to have Tunstall's murderers arrested. So what

464
00:38:53.960 --> 00:39:00.639
happens is Billy the Kid and a
bunch of other ranch hands are deputized.

465
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:07.880
And what they do is they call
themselves the Regulators, because they are going

466
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:12.840
to go and they are going to
serve out their own brand of justice and

467
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.039
they are going to regulate this shit. Now. Some of the known members

468
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:22.920
of the Regulators are Billy the Kid, Charlie Bowdrey, Dick Brewer who was

469
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:28.840
the first leader, guy named Henry
Brown, Jose Chavez, Chavez, George

470
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:32.800
Coe, Frank co who I mentioned
earlier, who was one of the people

471
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:38.039
who came out and mentioned and had
written about Billy's ability with the pistols,

472
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:45.559
another guy named Jim French, and
then Doc Skurlocke. Now together these guys

473
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.920
were the ones who formed the Regulators. These are the known members. There

474
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:55.039
are some that joined up later,
specifically a guy named Tom o'folliard who does

475
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:59.320
play a little bit of a role
a little bit later on in the story.

476
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:02.199
And then you have another guy who
joined later on by the name of

477
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:09.559
McCloskey. So within five days of
the Regulators getting deputized on March sixth,

478
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:15.079
eighteen seventy eight, the Regulators arrest
Bill Morton and Frank Baker. Now what

479
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:21.719
happens is a few days later,
the Regulators pretty much come to the understanding

480
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.760
that even if they go and take
them to court, there's probably nothing going

481
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:30.840
to be done about it because these
guys are members of the House. They

482
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:35.480
realized that no punishment is ever going
to come of this. Now, it's

483
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:40.119
often said that Billy was the one
who really wanted to just straight up kill

484
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:45.840
these guys. That's totally unconfirmed.
We don't know now. Like I said,

485
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:51.960
these guys really wanted to just kill
Morton and Baker because they were two

486
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.079
of the four man posse that had
gunned down Tunstall. Now, it is

487
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:59.679
said that Billy was the one who
was very vocal about just shooting them right

488
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.559
on the spot. Now, Dick
Brewer was a very level headed guy.

489
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:06.599
He is very collective. He's like, no, we're gonna do the right

490
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.719
thing. We're gonna take him in, they're gonna stand trial. Well,

491
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:14.599
what happens is they get about fifteen
miles outside of Lincoln County and some ship

492
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:20.199
goes down. We don't exactly know
what happens, but Bill Morton known as

493
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:24.840
Buck, and Frank Baker are shot
down along with a guy named William McCloskey.

494
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:29.840
Now William McCloskey was a regulator,
but he was also believed to be

495
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:35.400
a trader because he was very weird
about a lot of his actions and the

496
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.639
things that he said. It is
said that Billy kind of sniffed him out

497
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:42.840
a little bit. Those guys never
made it back to Lincoln County. They

498
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.239
were shot dead. Now, even
though the regulators did have warrants, they

499
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:52.760
really didn't treat him as much as
warrants as they did straight up hunting licenses.

500
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.960
It is said that they had a
kill list, that they had a

501
00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:00.719
list of men that they were gonna
kill that were responsible for the death of

502
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:05.400
John Tunstall, which you can take
that is, you know, one way

503
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:09.000
or the other, but that is
what is stated. On April first,

504
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:14.440
eighteen seventy eight, some of the
members of the Regulators, who were Frank

505
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:17.639
McNabb, Jim French, Fred Waite, John Middleton, Henry Brown, and

506
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:24.719
of course Billy the Kid, they're
in Lincoln and they see Sheriff Brady and

507
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:30.280
his deputies, and one of his
main deputies was George Hyman. Now they

508
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:34.239
see him, and they don't see
Billy and the rest of the Regulators.

509
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:38.039
So what they do is the Regulators
are hanging out at John Tunstall's store and

510
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:42.800
they see the sheriff and his posse's
little posse and some of his deputies like

511
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.760
start, you know, coming down
the street or whatever. So they go

512
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:52.039
hide in the alley beside Tunstall's store, and as Sheriff Brady and the rest

513
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.199
of the group of his men are
walking by, they unload a hail storm

514
00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:01.079
of bullets on him. They shot
Hyman dead right there. Several other men

515
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:07.880
were shot. Sheriff Brady himself was
shot eleven times, but he did not

516
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:12.480
die. He groaned a little bit
on the ground and went to sit up,

517
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.719
and he said, oh, he's
like I've been shot. And as

518
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.280
soon as he moved and said he'd
been shot, they unloaded another hailstorm of

519
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:23.599
bullets on this dude. They said, probably about a dozen more rounds hit

520
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:30.880
Sheriff Brady, and the Regulators know
that they're more than likely their deputization has

521
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:36.920
run its course. Now, just
three days later, on April fourth,

522
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:42.800
eighteen seventy eight, the Regulators end
up finding another guy who was part of

523
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.400
that little posse, guy by the
name of Buckshot Roberts, and they run

524
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:51.400
into him at a place called Blazer's
Mill. Now, this huge gunfight ensues.

525
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.519
Dick Brewer, the leader of the
Regulators, and a man that Billy

526
00:43:54.679 --> 00:44:00.840
respected so much, is shot right
between the eyes and killed along with Buckshot

527
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:06.480
Roberts, who also died. Now, Frank co one of the regulators,

528
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.199
had his trigger finger shot off,
and John Middleton, also a member of

529
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:15.840
the Regulators, was wounded in that
gunfight. And ironically enough, Dick Brewer

530
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:21.360
and Buckshot Roberts were buried side by
side, which is weird, but that's

531
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:25.239
how it went down. A couple
weeks later, on April eighteenth, eighteen

532
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:31.199
seventy eight, Billy the Kid,
John Middleton, and another guy named Henry

533
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:37.559
Brown of the Regulators are indicted for
the murder of Sheriff Brady. Now this

534
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:44.519
makes them wanted men like no other. Now, these guys are seriously wanted

535
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:47.280
at this point in time. And
in the next month May of eighteen seventy

536
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:53.880
eight, Governor Axtel pretty much tells
everyone to disarm and stop because shit is

537
00:44:53.920 --> 00:45:00.000
getting way out of hand, all
right. Word has gotten to the President

538
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:05.800
of the United States about the Lincoln
County War that is going on right now.

539
00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:10.679
So Axtel, who is under the
thumb of the house, nobody takes

540
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:16.199
him seriously, Nobody listens to him. The fighting ensues. So on July

541
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:22.159
fourth, eighteen seventy eight, the
regulators go to hide it Chisholm's Ranch.

542
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:27.199
John Chisholm, who if you remember
earlier, he was a backer of McSween

543
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:30.519
and Tunstall, so he was a
friend to them. He offered them a

544
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.639
place to hide out, gave him
a little bit of protection. So they

545
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:37.199
hide out there for a couple of
weeks until ship dies down a little bit.

546
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:40.880
On July fifteenth, eighteen seventy eight, they ride back into Lincoln.

547
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.840
Now what happens next is some pretty
messed up stuff. Now this is referred

548
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:53.440
to as the five Day Battle for
three days and nights straight. What happens

549
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:58.760
is is they are at Alexander mcsween's
home in Lincoln. This is him,

550
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.159
and there's some of the regulators.
They are found out to be there.

551
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:07.039
What's suspected is that somehow they got
coaxed into going there, that it was

552
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:13.280
some kind of a trap. Now
what happens is the new sheriff, Sheriff

553
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.239
Pippen, shows up and surrounds the
house. But he is not alone.

554
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:22.559
He shows up with the United States
Cavalry led by Colonel Dudley. This is

555
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:30.639
no bullshit. They have this entire
house surrounded. You got McSween, You

556
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:34.760
have mcsween's wife, Susan, and
you have their two kids in the house

557
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.679
along with some of the regulators.
And what the cavalry and the sheriff do

558
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:44.360
is they set the house on fire
to smoke them out. Now this fire

559
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:50.119
is burning very very slowly doesn't get
torched right away. Well, this is

560
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:54.599
towards the end of the standoff,
and on July nineteenth, just four days

561
00:46:54.639 --> 00:47:00.639
after the initial gunfight started, and
on a side and hope this is really

562
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:06.679
really cool. Susan McSween did survive
this, and she probably survived this because

563
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:12.519
of Billy himself. She goes on
to talk later years about Billy's personality and

564
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.960
says, he's literally one of the
sweetest guys she had ever met. She's

565
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:22.039
like the way he was portrayed in
later books and by a lot of historians

566
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.159
wasn't right. She's like, he
was one of the nicest, most honest,

567
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:29.719
loyal guys you could ever meet.
But she goes on to tell a

568
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:35.840
story that she had a grand piano
in the house and Billy knew that she

569
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:40.079
loved this piano. So as the
house is burning down room by room,

570
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:46.800
Billy and a couple other regulators kept
moving this piano from room to room so

571
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:51.559
that it would not get damaged by
the fire, which I thought was a

572
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:54.320
really really cool story. And I'm
going to take that as fact because that

573
00:47:54.480 --> 00:48:00.760
is something that Susan McSween did say, Like I had said on on the

574
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:06.280
fourth day of this standoff, on
July nineteenth, eighteen seventy eight, it

575
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:08.880
all comes to a head. They
need to get out of this house bad.

576
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:15.400
But above all else, Billy is
very vocal on the fact that Susan

577
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.000
and the kids need to get out
of this house. They do not need

578
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:23.199
to be in here. He doesn't
care about himself. During the standoff,

579
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:29.760
Alex McSween, Francisco Zamora, and
Harvey Morris are all killed on the Regulator's

580
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.679
side. Now on the Dolan side, a guy named Robert Beckwith is killed.

581
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:38.440
And what ends up happening how Billy
gets away is he calls for four

582
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:44.079
volunteers. And I'm gonna tell you
right now, anybody that says Billy the

583
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.239
kid was a coward has no idea
what they were talking about. This dude

584
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:53.320
had balls of steel. He straight
up as for four volunteers with him to

585
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:59.000
be decoys so that Susan McSween and
the kids can get out of this house.

586
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.880
And I shit you not. While
this house is burning to the ground,

587
00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:10.440
surrounded by US cavalry and a shitload
of Sheriff's deputies, they've come out

588
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:16.159
the back door firing, and what
they walk into is a hailstorm of bullets.

589
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:22.000
There were three people on the regulator
side that did lose their life,

590
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:27.840
alex McSween being one of them.
How Billy got out of this alive is

591
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:32.119
beyond me. It's nothing short of
amazing. But Billy did get out,

592
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:37.320
Susan mcsweene and the kids did end
up living as well. Now Billy does

593
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.760
end up escaping. He goes down
the riverbed up the other side and is

594
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.840
pretty much gone. Now, to
put this into perspective for you, Alexander

595
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:52.239
McSween when he came out of that
house was shot more than a hundred times.

596
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:57.199
Just to put that into perspective,
he was riddled with more than a

597
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:02.440
hundred rounds. Billy and the other
four decoys, Billy especially was not even

598
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:07.880
grazed. Now, Billy does decide
to get out of Dodge for a while.

599
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:13.320
He goes to Texas where he's stolen
some horses, and they are,

600
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.800
you know, selling him to some
dudes in Texas. Not much as really

601
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:22.639
going on. On September fourth of
eighteen seventy eight, Governor Axtel is removed

602
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:28.719
from office and replaced by a guy
named Lou Wallace. Now, a little

603
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:34.360
history lesson for you. Governor Lou
Wallace was an Indiana guy. He was

604
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:39.559
a pretty shrewd guy. Lou Wallace
takes control of Lincoln County and that entire

605
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:44.559
territory at this point in time.
From this point on, the House also

606
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:49.280
knows, oh shit, we don't
have this dude paid off or anything.

607
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:52.840
So maybe, you know, we
need to start thinking a little bit of

608
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:58.679
shit. So while he gets appointed
new governor right around the end of September

609
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.840
in eighteen seventy eight, it is
said on a side note that another gang

610
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:07.840
referred to as the Wrestlers come through
Lincoln County and they're led by a man

611
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:15.559
named John Selman. Now what they
start doing is stealing livestock robbery. They

612
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:21.039
kill any man or boy who gets
in their way, along with raping women.

613
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:27.440
Now in early October, Billy is
still in Texas selling some horses that

614
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:35.199
he had previously stolen. But he
decides in about November to come back to

615
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:39.559
Lincoln. Now, on November thirteenth, eighteen seventy eight, Governor Wallace issues

616
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:46.079
a proclamation of amnesty for all parties
involved in the Lincoln County War. Now

617
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:52.000
what this means is that any person
that had not formally been indicted on charges

618
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:59.239
could come forward and be issued a
pardon as long as all of the fighting

619
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:04.840
stopped. Because of the murder of
Sheriff Brady, Billy is exempt from this

620
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:09.039
and he knows that. So the
kid ends up returning to Lincoln County in

621
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:14.199
early December of eighteen seventy eight.
He's tired of running, he's tired of

622
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:17.199
the bullshit. Even though he's good
at living on the lamb, he kind

623
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:22.880
of wants to make peace. So
what he does is he writes a letter

624
00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:29.320
to his old gang buddy Jesse Evans, and he kind of wants a truce.

625
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:35.239
He writes a truce and they accept
the offer. So on February eighteenth

626
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:39.280
of eighteen seventy nine, the kid
meets up with Evans in Lincoln and they

627
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:45.159
literally write up a contract for a
truce. Now this is literally Dolan is

628
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:51.480
involved in this as well. Peace
treaty ends up getting formed like they literally

629
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.920
lined up on each wall of the
street, came together, shook hands,

630
00:52:55.000 --> 00:53:00.400
put their guns away, and a
truce was formed. This truth does not

631
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:06.119
last very long because they're in a
bar drinking later that night. Along with

632
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:10.159
this truce is Susan mcsween's attorney,
a guy by the name of Houston Chapman.

633
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:15.119
They're all drinking, having a good
time in the saloon and Jesse Evans

634
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:21.559
and some of the other boys are
harassing Houston Chapman, the attorney, And

635
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:27.199
what happens is James Dolan ends up
shooting him and killing him right there on

636
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.880
the spot. Now, after this, Billy is like, you know what

637
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:35.519
this like, There's no way we're
gonna end up being able to form any

638
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.440
kind of true side of this,
So he gets out of dodge. Now.

639
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:43.800
About a month later, on March
thirteenth, eighteen seventy nine, the

640
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.079
Kid ends up writing in one of
his first letters to Governor lou Wallace,

641
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:54.519
and he states that he'll be willing
to surrender and testify against Chapman's killers and

642
00:53:54.880 --> 00:54:01.920
Tunstall's killers for a pardon. Now, by doing this, he totally breaks

643
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:07.639
the truce that was formed by Evans
and Dolan and the regulators. And by

644
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:14.599
breaking this truce this is punishable by
death. Now, the Governor on March

645
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.519
fifteenth, eighteen seventy nine, just
two days later, writes Billy the Kid

646
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:22.039
back, telling them that he would
like to meet with him to discuss the

647
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:25.679
terms. And it's really cool because
at the end of this letter, Governor

648
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:30.760
Wallace says, and I quote,
if you can trust Jesse Evans, you

649
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:35.360
can trust me. So another couple
days later, on March seventeenth, eighteen

650
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:40.000
seventy nine, the kid and the
governor meet and an arrangement is made.

651
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:45.000
And what it is is Governor Lou
Wallace wants to take him in for a

652
00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:49.880
fake arrest. Now while this is
going on, he would come in,

653
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:55.920
he would testify in court against Dolan, Jesse Evans, and Colonel Dudley,

654
00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:00.840
and he would be pardoned. Now, like I said, Arnold Dudley was

655
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:07.000
a cavalry officer who was involved in
killing a couple of innocent people, the

656
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:12.159
main one being Alex McSween. And
obviously we know of Dolan and we do

657
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:17.119
know of Jesse Evans. So what
happens a few days later on March twenty

658
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:22.320
first, what's supposed to happen is
they are going to be quote unquote fake

659
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:29.679
arrested and they are going to go
into voluntary confinement. And this is kind

660
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:34.840
of for their own protection. Now, Billy knows that if something went wrong,

661
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:37.280
he was pretty much writing his own
death worrd at this point in time,

662
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:43.880
because he is testifying against these guys, he's breaking the truth. I

663
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:49.440
mean seriously, like, these guys
are not people to turn your back on.

664
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:54.559
You cannot trust him whatsoever. So
on March twenty first, Billy the

665
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:59.320
Kid and one of the regulators,
Tom o'folliard, are arrested and brought to

666
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:04.960
Lincoln. On April fourteenth, just
about three weeks later, on eighteen seventy

667
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:10.800
nine, the Kid testifies in court
against Chapman's murderers, which would have been

668
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:15.480
Dolan and Jesse Evans. And then
just another two weeks later, on May

669
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:21.400
twenty eighth of the same year,
the Kid goes on to testify against Colonel

670
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:25.000
Dudley for his involvement in the siege
of the McSween home. Now, as

671
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:30.519
you can imagine, these guys were
not found guilty. Absolutely none of them

672
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:37.039
were found guilty. Because even though
Governor lou Wallace is not on the take

673
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:42.360
of the house, the judge and
the politicians still are. So these guys

674
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:46.559
are found innocent. It was either
innocent or a mistrial I cannot remember specifically.

675
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:53.840
So Billy never really gets his pardon. What happens is the judge in

676
00:56:53.880 --> 00:57:00.800
the case ignores the governor's pardon and
keeps Billy can find. Now he's sitting

677
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:07.639
in jail voluntarily for three months,
Billy keeps writing him letters, you know,

678
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:10.679
saying, Hey, you know,
we need to talk about the pardon.

679
00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:15.800
I feel like i'm you know,
you're pretty much screwing me over to

680
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:20.800
put it into context, you know, on June seventeenth, eighteen seventy nine,

681
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:24.800
Billy simply got up and walked out
of jail and wrote off and by

682
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:29.800
October of eighteen seventy nine he goes
back to doing what he does best,

683
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:34.519
living on the lamb and rustling,
and the kid lives pretty quietly for the

684
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:42.440
next couple of months until January tenth
of eighteen eighty a drunk guy in Fort

685
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.719
Sumner because this is where Billy's at. The people of Fort Sumner offered Billy

686
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:51.719
a lot of protection. They hid
him whenever he needed it because these were

687
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:57.079
his people. Billy spoke fluent Spanish, and at this point in time,

688
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:01.440
he also had himself a little girlfriend
by the name of Paulina Maxwell. And

689
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:07.119
these people around Fort Sumner loved him. He was pretty much their hero.

690
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:12.719
And the reason that he was their
hero is because he was a one man

691
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:21.400
army against an entire corrupt political situation
that we're screwing all of these people over.

692
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:24.880
They loved him, They gave him
whatever he wanted, They offered him

693
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:30.039
protection when they needed it. So
this was his safe place. So on

694
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:34.800
January tenth, eighteen eighty, there's
some drunk guy hanging out Fort Sumner named

695
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:39.159
Joe Grant. Now Joe Grant is
supposedly a bounty hunter and he is on

696
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:45.559
the hunt for Billy the kid.
Well, Billy knows this all right,

697
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:49.119
now, he doesn't know what Billy
looks like or anything like that. The

698
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:52.719
way the story goes is that Billy
just kind of asks him to see his

699
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:58.239
gun, and what he does is
he takes his gun and kind of moves

700
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.280
the chamber. Because what you did
with a six shooter is you've kept one

701
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:07.119
chamber empty. That way your pistol
would misfire. You know, these weren't

702
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:10.679
the greatest weapons on earth, even
though they were seriously reliable. Well,

703
00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:15.159
what Billy does is he adjust sit
to where that empty chamber is the next

704
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:21.480
one out. He pretty much just
to starts a fight with old Joe Grant

705
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:24.960
here Now, when Billy turns his
back, he hears the gun go click,

706
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:29.920
and at that point in time,
Billy turns around, puts his pistol

707
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:34.639
under Joe Grant's chin, and pulls
the trigger three times. How much of

708
00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:37.679
that is truth, We're not too
sure. I've heard anywhere from one time

709
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:43.920
he shot him to three times.
But Billy did definitely kill that dude.

710
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:47.480
And he goes back to doing the
same ship that he's always been doing.

711
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:52.599
You know, he's just hanging out
for almost a year there in Fort Sumter.

712
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:58.360
On October sixth, in eighteen eighty, the kid is really getting tired

713
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:00.920
of living outside the law. He's
tired of dodging laws, tired of being

714
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:06.239
on the lamb. And he writes
to a guy named Ira Leonard, who

715
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:09.159
is a lawyer, and he's saying
that he wants to try straightening things out

716
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:14.039
again with Governor Wallace. Now.
He agrees to meet him in White Oaks

717
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:17.360
within a week. Unfortunately, it
takes Billy six weeks to get there,

718
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:22.639
so Ira Leonard tells him to screw
off. The deal is off. Now.

719
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:27.480
About a month later, on November
second, eighteen eighty, Governor Lew

720
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:31.199
Wallace gets a hold of a guy
named Pat Garrett. Pat Garrett is officially

721
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:38.559
elected sheriff of Lincoln County. And
how this happens is Billy is running around

722
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:45.119
Fort Sumner. If you remember John
Chisholm, Billy starts stealing his cattle.

723
01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:49.360
I'm not exactly sure why, because
he had a lot of it. There

724
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:53.079
is probably hard to keep track of. But Billy starts stealing John Chisholm's cattle.

725
01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:58.000
Now, John Chisholm was supposed to
be a friend. So Chisholm is

726
01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:01.000
like, listen, this little asshole
needs to be dealt with. So what

727
01:01:01.159 --> 01:01:07.760
Chisholm does is he backs Pat Garrett
as sheriff. And with backing like that,

728
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:12.760
you can almost guarantee that Pat Garrett
was not going to lose that election.

729
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:17.760
Now, the stipulation was is that
Pat Garrett's first order of business had

730
01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:23.480
to be to eliminate the man known
as Billy the kid. You know that

731
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:28.920
was supposed to be his main order
of business. Now, before we go

732
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.199
any further, I do have to
take a break. I gotta play a

733
01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:36.119
couple commercials here real quick. I
gotta go grab another beer. So you

734
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.840
guys sit tight for about roughly a
minute to a minute and a half.

735
01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:45.960
Go refill your drinks. I'll be
right back, all right. So to

736
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:50.159
give you guys a little bit of
history on Billy the Kid and Pat Garrett.

737
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:54.119
Yes, there was a previous friendship
there. The extent of it is

738
01:01:54.239 --> 01:02:00.400
not really too well known, but
they did ride together and they were friends.

739
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:04.639
But the extent of their relationship is
in Lincoln County. Pat Garrett was

740
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:09.159
a bartender at a saloon that Billy
the Kid used to frequent all the time.

741
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:13.119
Now, they ended up hanging out
for about a year. They were

742
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:19.280
supposedly really good friends. They actually
gave each other nicknames. Pat Garrett was

743
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:22.320
known as Big Casino. Billy the
Kid was known as the Little Casino.

744
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:28.039
And the reason they got these nicknames
is because Pat Garrett was a linky ass

745
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:34.400
six foot four dude. Billy the
Kid full grown, was about five foot

746
01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:37.719
seven, no more than one hundred
and forty pounds, soaking wet. So

747
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:43.639
they gave each other those nicknames.
Another set of nicknames. After Pat Garrett

748
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:46.360
became sheriff, Pat Garrett used to
refer to him as a little asshole.

749
01:02:46.880 --> 01:02:51.880
Billy the Kid used to call him
the old woman. So while Billy is

750
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:54.039
in white Oaks. Like I said, he shows up six weeks late for

751
01:02:54.119 --> 01:03:00.000
his meet up with the lawyer Ira
Leonard. While he's there, Apostle,

752
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:02.239
he finds out that he's there,
and they surround him at this place called

753
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:08.119
a Great House Ranch. Now,
during this little standoff, a guy named

754
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:15.000
James Carlyle, who was a deputy, is said to have been killed by

755
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:20.000
his own men. Now, Billy
did get blamed for this murder, and

756
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:25.760
a lot of the people involved on
Billy's side do say Billy didn't do this.

757
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:30.559
This guy was not killed by him. A lot of the posse after

758
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:36.280
James Carlyle did die pretty much disbanded, they took off, which would honestly

759
01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:42.239
lead you to believe that it is
a good possibility that that he was killed

760
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.079
by his own men. Now,
later on, Billy would go on to

761
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:51.800
say, quote, there's more about
the killing than people known, which means

762
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:55.760
there's a lot of shit going on
to where you know, you guys just

763
01:03:55.800 --> 01:04:00.960
don't understand what exactly happened. And
that's true. Nobody knows. Now.

764
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:06.639
This happened on November twenty seventh of
eighteen eighty, all right about three weeks

765
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:12.039
after Pat Garrett gets elected Sheriff.
Now, on December twelfth, eighteen eighty,

766
01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:15.320
the kid rights Governor Wallace again.
This time he's pleading for his innocence

767
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:21.440
and concerning the death of Deputy Carlyle
and some of his rustling activities in the

768
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:27.559
territory. Because Billy is really kept
pretty quiet up until this point, you

769
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:30.599
know, and Governor Wallace pretty much
ignores him, he does not write him

770
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:36.119
back. So on December fourteenth,
eighteen eighty, Sheriff Garrett finds out that

771
01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:42.159
Billy the Kid more than likely is
in back in Fort Sumner, and he

772
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.719
forms a posse and they start to
hunt for Billy the Kid. Now,

773
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:50.199
around December fourteenth, eighteen eighty,
Pat Garrett and a posse began the official

774
01:04:50.320 --> 01:04:54.840
hunt for Billy the Kid. He
hears word that he might be in Fort

775
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:57.320
Sumner and he's like, well,
shit, I know people there. My

776
01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:00.679
wife is from Fort Sumner, so
we should have no problem tracking him down.

777
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:05.639
And the very next day, Governor
lou Wallace puts out a five hundred

778
01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:13.039
dollar reward for the kids. Capture
a little bit of background on Pat Garrett,

779
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:17.280
you know a lot of his history
aside, Pat Garrett is a pretty

780
01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:21.719
bad compulsive gambler. He's always losing
money, he's always in debt. So

781
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:28.039
he sees his five hundred bucks and
he's all about it. So on December

782
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:33.400
nineteenth, eighteen eighty, they're in
Fort Sumner and Pat Garrett and his men

783
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:39.039
are stationed out there. Okay,
now just imagine this picture of this for

784
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:44.880
one minute. It's a full moon
outside, it's dark out, there's about

785
01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:49.760
three inches of crisp snow on the
ground, and you see this gang down

786
01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:54.119
the side of this hill, single
file. And Pat Garrett's like, I

787
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.719
know this is the kid. I
know he's got to be leading these guys.

788
01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:02.599
So he's sick. First posse to
start shooting, and they start shooting.

789
01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:09.000
The only person that gets hit is
a guy named Tomo Folliard, who

790
01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:13.719
is a member of the Regulators.
Now they pretty much see the extent of

791
01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:16.440
the damage if Tomo Folliard and they
keep going, they pretty much leave him

792
01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:21.960
for dead. Now the other Regulators
escape. Pat Garrett and his posse are

793
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:25.400
like, shit, you know,
we didn't kill him. We killed the

794
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:29.079
wrong guy. Now. A few
days later, about four days later,

795
01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:33.639
on December twenty third, eighteen eighty, they end up tracking Billy the kid

796
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:40.480
and his gang to this tiny little
rock hut basically right around a place called

797
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:45.559
Stinking Springs. Now what happens here
is Pat Garrett is like, listen,

798
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:49.400
wet up. The first time we
shot the wrong guy. I know Billy,

799
01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:54.400
the kid, I know what he
looks like, I know what he

800
01:06:54.519 --> 01:07:00.599
wears. You wait for my signal
so we don't make another mistake. And

801
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:05.519
what happens is Charlie Bowdre comes out
the front. Billy had a very specific

802
01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:10.119
hat that he used to war.
He used to wore this um like smaller

803
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:14.239
size some brero with like a green
band around the head part of it.

804
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:17.920
Well, it just so happens that
Charlie Bowdre was wearing the same type of

805
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:23.800
hat. And he comes out and
they think it's the kid. So Pat

806
01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:28.599
Garrett gives the order to fire.
He gives a signal, and they shoot

807
01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:32.079
Charlie Bowdre down. Now this is
after a little bit of a standoff.

808
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:36.880
They had a standoff for probably a
good day. And the whole time,

809
01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:41.960
Billy's just taunting Pat Garrett. I'm
not even gonna bullshit you. He knows

810
01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.840
that if he walks out of there, he's either getting killed or he's getting

811
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:50.039
taken back to Lincoln charged with murder
and gonna be hanged, But he's sitting

812
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:56.599
there fucking around with Pat Garrett just
blowing him shit. After the death of

813
01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:01.599
Charlie Bowdre, which really affected Billy
the Kid because think about it this way,

814
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:06.719
the only people in Billy the Kid's
life that ever showed him respect,

815
01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:13.320
where ever cared about him for that
matter, where his mother, John Tunstall,

816
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:19.159
Dick Brewer, McSween, Charlie Bowdrey, and Tomo Filliard. They've all

817
01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:24.720
been killed. Billy has pretty much
nothing, so after a little while,

818
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:29.479
he does end up surrendering. Now, in between this time of Christmas of

819
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:35.680
eighteen eighty and at about March twenty
eighth of eighteen eighty one, Billy the

820
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:42.000
Kid is being transported for trial,
and this whole time he's writing letters to

821
01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:46.479
Governor Lew Wallace again, and at
one point he even threatens to expose the

822
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:51.760
letters that Governor Lew Wallace had written
him two years earlier about the pardon that

823
01:08:51.840 --> 01:08:57.720
he was promised that he was never
given. Billy is really really frustrated at

824
01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:01.520
this point in time, because he
he could trust this guy. He literally

825
01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:06.520
promised him a pardon if he testified
against all these people and he did not

826
01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:12.159
follow through with it, Billy put
his life on the line. And I

827
01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:15.279
know some of you are sitting there
like, the dude's a stone cold killer,

828
01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:17.680
you know what. Yeah, he
is. But when you're promised a

829
01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:23.159
pardon to testify against people that will
literally shoot you in the face as soon

830
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:26.680
as you walk out of the courtroom, that's kind of not right, you

831
01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:30.640
know what I mean. That's not
how the government when they offer you a

832
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:34.840
pardon, is not supposed to work
that way. Now, what happens is

833
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:41.720
he knows that he's running out of
time and he's on thin ice. So

834
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:46.079
on March thirtieth and eighteen eighty one, the kids first trial for killing Buckshot

835
01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:53.439
Roberts goes ahead and commences. About
seven days later, the case is dismissed

836
01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:57.640
due to a technicality. Now two
days after that, on April eighth,

837
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:02.239
eighteen eighty one, the kids se
trial commences for the killing of Sheriff Brady.

838
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:06.359
The very next day, on April
ninth, eighteen eighty one, the

839
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:13.039
kid has found guilty of first degree
murder and his sentence to death by hanging.

840
01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:16.039
Now, think about this for a
second. Out of all the people

841
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:23.960
involved and the Lincoln County War,
the one guy on the losing side who

842
01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:31.079
was involved in every single little gunfight
is the only person to have ever been

843
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:39.039
convicted of any crimes involved in the
Lincoln County Wars. Everybody else that were

844
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:43.079
actually tried in a court of law, we're all acquitted or pardoned. Does

845
01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:46.399
that seem fair to you, because
it honestly does not seem very fair to

846
01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:53.399
me. During the Lincoln County War, roughly seventy five to eighty people died,

847
01:10:54.039 --> 01:11:00.399
and Billy the Kid was the only
person who was convicted and given a

848
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:04.880
sentence. That right there is pretty
fed up if you ask me. Now,

849
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:11.159
Billy the Kid is sentenced to hang
on May thirteenth, between the hours

850
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:15.359
of nine am and three pm.
Now he is sentenced on April thirteenth of

851
01:11:15.479 --> 01:11:20.439
eighteen eighty one, so he knows
he's roughly got about a month to live.

852
01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:25.920
Now. On April twenty first of
eighteen eighty one, the Kid arrives

853
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:30.079
back in Lincoln and is jailed in
the local courthouse. Now, while he's

854
01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:33.920
there, he's jailed by two local
deputies, one of which being J.

855
01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:39.800
W. Bell and the other one
being a guy named Bob Ollinger. Now,

856
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:44.439
the whole time Billy is in jail, he's waiting to be hanged.

857
01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:48.520
Pat Garrett is pretty much out of
town at this point in time. He

858
01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:51.760
is the only sheriff in the county, so he's out doing other shit.

859
01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:59.199
He's collecting taxes and he's also collecting
wood to build the gallows for Billy the

860
01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:02.800
kid his at one point in time. Friend. So what happens is while

861
01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:06.640
he's in jail, the whole time, this guy, Bob Ollinger, just

862
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:14.119
keeps harassing the shit out of him. While he's confined, Bob Ollinger keeps

863
01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:17.039
telling him, Hey, I got
this brand new shotgun. He's sitting there

864
01:12:17.039 --> 01:12:21.840
cleaning this shotgun, just looking at
Billy the Kid, literally begging him to

865
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:28.000
try to escape. He's like,
please, please escape. I got this

866
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:30.319
brand new shotgun. I want to
use it on you. He's like,

867
01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:35.039
I want to kill you so bad. And Billy the Kid literally is just

868
01:12:35.319 --> 01:12:41.439
not even really phased by it for
some odd reason. And Billy the Kid's

869
01:12:41.479 --> 01:12:46.640
brain if he's pretty much gotten out
of any situation imaginable. He's escaped from

870
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:54.920
jail numerous times. He's walked away
from gunfights, unscathed. So he's always

871
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:58.079
an optimist. He's always got it
in the back of his mind, like

872
01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:01.680
I will get out of this,
I will away. So what happens is

873
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:08.399
Bob Ollinger puts his shotgun in the
arsenal and he takes a couple other prisoners

874
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:12.000
over across the street to the restaurant
to get some dinner for the night.

875
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:16.159
Now this is about right around six
pm, I believe. So he's gone

876
01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:21.399
and J. W. Bell is
a younger deputy and he's tasked with guarding

877
01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:27.359
Billy the kid. Now, the
next events are not exactly known. There's

878
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:31.800
two different stories, one of which
being Billy asks to go to the bathroom,

879
01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:36.279
which would be outside in the outhouse. Now, one story goes is

880
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:43.800
that a local sympathizer because these people
still did not like the house at all,

881
01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:46.880
hit a gun in the outhouse for
him to break out a jail with.

882
01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:51.319
And while he was in the outhouse, he managed to get one of

883
01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:58.119
his shackles off his hands. Now, historically, you know what you see

884
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:01.399
in the movie Young Guns is pretty
fin right. He had big risks and

885
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:06.840
very small girly hands. So this
dude was able to slip out of shackles

886
01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:12.840
fairly easily, all right. So
while he's in the outhouse, somebody either

887
01:14:12.920 --> 01:14:15.640
planted the gun, we don't know, but we do know that he manages

888
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:19.880
to get one of his hands out
of the shackles. Now, the other

889
01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:23.840
part of the story is is that
he does go to the outhouse, gets

890
01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:27.680
his hand out of the shackles.
But while he gets back into the jail,

891
01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:31.159
the other half of the story is
that he literally takes JW. Bell's

892
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:36.319
gun out of his holster and uses
it on him. Now, JW.

893
01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:41.159
Bell is shot through the chest and
the hole goes right through him into the

894
01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:45.119
wall. There is also another part
of the story that says Billy kind of

895
01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:50.239
fired like a like a warning shot
to JW. Bell and the bullet ricochet

896
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:55.760
and hit him in the chest.
Personally, that one is not very believable.

897
01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:59.800
It is one of the other stories
out there. The local people hear

898
01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:03.600
the gunshot, and the first thing
that they think is that Bell shot the

899
01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:10.199
kid. While Bob Ollinger is coming
across the street from the restaurant, JW.

900
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:14.359
Bell is stumbling out the front door
of the courthouse and he falls face

901
01:15:14.479 --> 01:15:17.359
down dead right there on the street. Now, there was a witness at

902
01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:21.880
the scene, guy by the last
name of Goss. Now what he says

903
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:29.800
is that Bob Ollinger comes walking across
the street after he shot Bell. Billy

904
01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:34.960
the Kid goes and he gets that
shotgun from the arsenal that Bob Bollinger was

905
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:41.760
taunting him with, and he sits
on the second story where his cell is

906
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:45.880
and just crouches down below the window. And as Bob Islinger's walking across the

907
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:50.600
street, he sees JW. Bell
fall flat face in the middle of the

908
01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:55.199
street dead. Now, this guy
Goss goes on to say, and he

909
01:15:55.239 --> 01:15:59.039
was a witness. Bob Islinger's like, what the hell happened? You know,

910
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:01.880
did Bell shoot the kid? This
other guy comes forward and says,

911
01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:06.359
no, he shot Bill. He
shot shot the deputy. Right about then

912
01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:13.760
Bob Ollinger sees Billy the Kid pop
up from the second story window. He

913
01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:18.199
hangs the shotgun out the window,
looks at Bob, points that double barrel

914
01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:24.520
shotgun right at him and says hello, Bob. And at that point Bob

915
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:28.439
says, well, shitty just killed
me too. Billy the Kid pulls the

916
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:33.479
trigger puts eighteen buckshot in Bob Ollinger's
chest and face. He falls flat dead

917
01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:38.560
about this point in time, obviously, the people in town are shit in

918
01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:42.119
their pants, are like, what
in the hell's going on? Billy the

919
01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:45.880
Kid's about to go free. Billy
the Kid steps out onto the second floor

920
01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:53.760
balcony outside the courthouse and he proceeds
to address the people standing out there and

921
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:59.159
he explains, Hey, I had
to do this. You guys don't understand

922
01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:02.600
that I was ust to pardon that
was never given to me. I'm not

923
01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:06.880
supposed to be in this situation.
I was never supposed to be put on

924
01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:12.119
trial. So as long as you
guys just let me do my thing and

925
01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:15.600
let me go, we will not
have any problems. But I do need

926
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:19.199
a horse. So he has one
of the local guys get him a horse,

927
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:25.600
and while he's doing that, he
packs up two pistols, a Winchester

928
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:29.720
rifle, and a shitload of ammo. Now he tells the guy who he

929
01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:32.399
got the horse from. He literally
tells him I will make sure this horse

930
01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:35.600
makes it back here. He's like, I only need to borrow this.

931
01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:40.319
I'm not going to steal it.
And ironically enough, a couple of days

932
01:17:40.399 --> 01:17:43.800
later, that horse does show back
up in Lincoln County with a rope,

933
01:17:44.039 --> 01:17:47.479
the rope still around its neck.
It's not really known whether Billy the kids

934
01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:51.119
sent it back or if he fell
off the horse and then the horse came

935
01:17:51.159 --> 01:17:57.319
back. But that's just a little
side fact right there. There's no turning

936
01:17:57.399 --> 01:18:00.159
back for Billy. There's a cool
little story, you know, that one

937
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:04.279
of the local guys goes to reach
for his pistol while Billy's up there on

938
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:06.920
his balcony, and his wife looks
at him and he's like, no,

939
01:18:08.119 --> 01:18:13.319
dude, no, that's Billy the
kid. You're not getting shot down.

940
01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:16.880
Get your damn hand off your six
shooter. So they let him ride off,

941
01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:20.840
and at this point in time,
there's no turning back for Billy.

942
01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:28.720
He is just shot two cops and
he is on the run. Now at

943
01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:31.319
this point, everybody thinks Billy's got
to be heading to Mexico. He has

944
01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:35.960
at least a day or two heads
start on Pat Garrett. So Pat Garrett

945
01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:43.399
really doesn't proceed to look for him, because anybody in their right mind knows

946
01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:48.960
Billy's not gonna stick around. He's
going to Mexico and you're never gonna see

947
01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:56.760
him again, because don't ever forget
Billy spoke fluent Spanish. He was protected

948
01:18:56.760 --> 01:19:00.720
by the Mexicans, by the Hispanics
down there because he was revered as a

949
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:06.319
hero. He could have gotten away
so easily, but he didn't. He

950
01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:12.319
goes right back to Fort Sumner.
He ends up going north. There are

951
01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:16.199
a couple suggestions of why he did
not go to Mexico, but one of

952
01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:24.039
them is because of Paul to Maxwell, Billy the kid was supposedly pretty madly

953
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:28.880
in love with this woman. And
let's be real, Billy is twenty one

954
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:32.199
years old at this point in time. He's still a kid. But instead

955
01:19:32.199 --> 01:19:36.720
of going to Mexico, he goes
back to Fort Sumner. So on April

956
01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:43.680
twenty eighth, eighteen eighty one,
Billy escapes. There's a lot of rumors

957
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:48.039
about Billy being in Fort Sumner.
Pat Garrett keeps hearing these rumors, but

958
01:19:48.079 --> 01:19:54.359
he's not really paying any attention to
him until a lot of people start blowing

959
01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:57.800
him a bunch of shit, saying, oh, man, you know,

960
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.159
you know, we all know where
he is. He's back at Fort Sumner.

961
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:03.439
There's reports of him being around there. We have people saying that he's

962
01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:06.720
there, you know, and they
start telling Pat Garrett that, oh,

963
01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:10.800
you must be scared of him.
That's why you're not going to get him,

964
01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:15.000
because you must be scared of Billy
the Kid. So Pat Garrett does

965
01:20:15.680 --> 01:20:19.680
end up going to Fort Sumner with
a few deputies to look for Billy the

966
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:25.439
Kid, and on July fourteenth,
eighteen eighty one, one night, Billy

967
01:20:25.479 --> 01:20:29.800
the Kid is in Fort Sumner.
Now Pat Garrett gets there before him.

968
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:33.359
He meets up with a guy named
Pete Maxwell, who is the older brother

969
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:40.119
of Paul. To Maxwell, Pete
is pretty much offering him a lot of

970
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:45.239
information. Now, what it said
is Billy comes into town and he's pretty

971
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:48.920
much looking for some food. He
had been out on the trail for a

972
01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:53.439
couple of days at this point,
from what I understand, and he's looking

973
01:20:53.439 --> 01:20:56.720
for some food and somebody directs him
over to Pete Maxwell's house, saying,

974
01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:00.479
oh, he just kills some cattle. He's got some of beef hanging up.

975
01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:01.680
You know, you can go over
there and get some fresh meat.

976
01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:05.680
So Billy the Kid goes over there. Now he goes over to Pete's house

977
01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:12.119
and he notices that it's all dark
inside Pete Maxwell's house. Now Pat Garrett

978
01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:15.920
and Pete Maxwell are in his bedroom, are in Pete Maxwell's bedroom. Pat

979
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:20.840
Garrett and Pete Maxwell are in Pete's
bedroom talking about Billy the Kid where he's

980
01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:26.239
been when he's coming back, and
they hear it. They hear a voice

981
01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:30.159
going Guiness, Guinness because Billy shows
up at this door and he can't tell

982
01:21:30.159 --> 01:21:35.600
who's inside it, and all Pete
Maxwell and Pat Garrett can sees a silhouette

983
01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:40.880
of a man pretty much shrouded by
the moonlight that should be known, and

984
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:45.399
even Pat Garrett says that in his
book that they could not see exactly who

985
01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:51.840
it was because all they saw was
a silhouette. Well, Pat Garrett is

986
01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:57.399
sitting kind of on his holster,
pulls out his gun. Fires one round,

987
01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:01.359
hits Billy right above the heart.
Second round he fires, Missus goes

988
01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:05.680
into the wall. Billy the Kid
drops dead right there where he stood.

989
01:22:06.359 --> 01:22:12.199
It is still debated to this day
whether or not Billy the Kid actually had

990
01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:15.760
a weapon in his hand. Some
say that he did have his pistol out.

991
01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:20.439
Others say that it was a knife
in his hand because Billy walked up

992
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:26.279
to this door not wanting to shoot
a friend, So a lot of people

993
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:30.720
say that he actually did holster his
pistol and had a knife in his hand

994
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:34.119
instead, because he didn't know who
was in this room. Now, obviously,

995
01:22:34.159 --> 01:22:40.000
about a year later, Pat Garrett
co authors a book called The Authentic

996
01:22:40.079 --> 01:22:43.039
Life of Billy the Kid. Now, if you think about this for a

997
01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:47.159
second, how would you like it
if your murderer got to write your biography.

998
01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:54.199
They could literally say whatever they wanted
to about you, stretch the truth,

999
01:22:54.560 --> 01:23:00.840
make themselves look a lot better.
Now, this is pretty much where

1000
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:06.279
the story of William H. Bonnie
ends, in the legend of Billy the

1001
01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:10.960
Kid begins. Now, you'll hear
a lot of people say, well,

1002
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:16.000
there's a lot of rumors flying around
that maybe Billy the Kid wasn't shot that

1003
01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:23.119
night, Maybe it was somebody else. Maybe it was Billy's good friend,

1004
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:29.239
guy named Billy Barlow, who looked
exactly like him. A lot of the

1005
01:23:29.319 --> 01:23:35.199
locals said that Billy's body had a
darker complexion than what he had actually looked

1006
01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:41.560
like, suggesting that maybe it was
a local from that area he was shot

1007
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:45.800
and not Billy. Because there's a
lot of speculation out there that says that

1008
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:48.479
was not Billy the Kid that died
that night, And as a matter of

1009
01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:55.279
fact, the first deputy of Pat
Garrett's that ran up and saw the body

1010
01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:58.279
and says, you shot Billy the
kid. You shot Billy the kid.

1011
01:24:00.279 --> 01:24:02.159
After he runs up to the body, he says, that's not Billy the

1012
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:08.760
kid. You shot the wrong guy. Now, this deputy ended up writing

1013
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some memoirs not too long after that
about his life, and he would claim

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that Pat Garrett shot the wrong guy
until the day he died. Is there

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motivation for Pat Garrett to claim that
he shot Billy the kid, collect reward

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money and tell Billy to get the
scout of town if you even talked to

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Billy. Yeah, there is a
lot of motivation there. Pat Garrett wasn't

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dead up to his eyeballs. He
was a compulsive gambler. That five hundred

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dollars reward and sales from a book
would have gone a long way for Pat

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Garrett. M hm hm planet.
I haven't a minute minute of mantle Planet.

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I have a minute and minute a
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