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The following presentation is Del Marvis Studio's
production. Welcome back truth seekers from around

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the world. It is time for
another edition of the flat Earth Files.

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I hope this podcast finds you well
as we record on this Friday, February

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the twenty third, twenty twenty four. We have a great guest standing by

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before we bring Arvan on. Just
a couple of quick reminders, do please

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stop by the website, the flat
earthfiles dot com. Much to do.

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There have a cool flat Earth clock
that was given to us. We have

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the slides on the homepage. You
have a chat room. There's a forum

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where you can leave your thoughts and
questions, and I'm happy to see that

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being utilized a lot more. It's
a great place. Instead of just getting

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feedback from myself, you can get
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now. So without any further ado, let us bring our guest on from

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across the pond, as they say
from the United Kingdom, it's Arvin.

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Arvin. How are you doing today, sir? Doing very well? George,

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how are you doing good? Thank
you so much for your time and

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thanks for joining us today. Please
do take a moment and introduce yourself to

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the audience. Okay, right,
I am Alvin. I am a not

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a conspiracy theorist. I don't really
like that term too much. I'd like

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to say truth seeker. And luckily
for me, I've had a lot of

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fortune in my life. A lot
of people have opened my eyes to a

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lot of different things, and I'd
say I'm one of the lucky ones to

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be honest, and yeah, yeah, that's pretty much about it. That's

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interesting you mentioned that, of course, conspiracy theorists is the term the FBI

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here in the United States came up
with to label people who questioned the killing

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of John F. Kennedy. And
of course that is stuck with anyone who

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questions the official narrative to this day. But something I have seen, they

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are starting to change the narrative.
They actually are starting to use the term

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conspiracy theorists less, and they are
actually attacking truthers using that word truther because

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they know that we have adapted and
gotten away from that. My very first

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podcast was called Conspiracy Theories Investigated.
I understood the stigma with it. People

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pointed it out to me, and
we changed it to the Fact Hunter.

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But they as we evolve, the
enemy air quotes as we say, evolves

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as well. So even they are
saying truthers, which is funny when enormy

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hears that they're going after truthers.
Why would you belittle somebody who is trying

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to seek the truth? Oh for
sure exactly. And they don't really stop

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with it. It's just, you
know, like you said, we adapt

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and they adapt as well. I
suppose we've got to come up with a

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new name. But you know,
I guess I'll just get into sort of

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some of the earlier things in my
life. Sure, when I was roughly

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around the age of six, my
teacher obviously taught us about the moon landing,

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like many people were taught, but
she also mentioned on a field trip

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to a small group of us,
she turned to us and said, you

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know, some people actually don't think
we went to the moon, which for

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me was really interesting because I was
thinking, you know why, and she

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just listed off a bunch of proofs
like that way that made like way more

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sense than a Timfoil shuttle going off
into space. So for me, that

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was kind of like the start of
the awakening. Obviously, I didn't know

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how deep the rabbit hole went because
I was about six or seven at the

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time, but I remember coming home
from school speaking with my dad and him

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saying, yeah, we didn't go
to the moon, And then since then

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I've never I never thought we went
to the moon. I don't know how

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people can believe it, but I
suppose people are like fans of space,

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and when you like something, you're
gonna want to believe in it, you

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know, yeah for sure. And
they because they understand how psychology works and

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mind control works, that they send
positive thing to us to help us become

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fanboys. Right, So you basically
went Science fiction really picked up in the

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fifties post World War Two. Science
fiction comics and cartoons were very very popular

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in the fifties and then and you
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April of sixty one made the infamous
We're going to go to the Moon.

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By the end of the decade speech, and people became just infatuated with it.

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And then in the seventies, Star
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became a thing. So again,
when you take away their ball, not

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only are you taking away something that's
been ingrained in their minds since they were

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a toddler, you're also which to
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end of the day, it is
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right, But but I think more
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I think it is just this subtle, you know, really subtle reinforcement that

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there is a such thing of as
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But that that didn't take me away
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believing in them boon landing. You
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of, as you would say,
rational explanations. Okay, they wanted to

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win the space for the space race
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made sense why they would fake it, And it didn't seem like as malicious

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as it really is. You know. Indeed, indeed, and listen to

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be from my perspective, I think
the whole moon landing had so many facet

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to its it. It was obviously
a big one from you know, a

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Satanic or Freemason point of view,
it was to deceive, because that is

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what they do. But they're also
it is a huge black money operation for

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them. Just what a windfall of
funds that NASA gets. Oh, it's

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unbelievable. I mean, I'm not
taxed by the by the American government,

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but I'm Annoyed's just just at the
fact that how the billions they get a

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year to essentially make CGI movies And
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it on the news today they the
first independent company to land on the Moon.

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That was hard to watch. It
was almost as it really was.

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Do you remember the one in India
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everybody that was really I'm getting angry
just thinking about it. But yesterday they

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were told their little Mission Control we
can confirm they landed on the Moon.

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There was like no video and they
just went no video. Yeah, they

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just went crazy high five in each
other. It was so cringe. Yeah,

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it doesn't take a lot for my
dad to get angry. We watched

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that both today on the news,
and yeah, he was. He was

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pulling out the little hair he has
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was, yeah, it was.
It was horrific. But I should probably

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get into how I got closer to
flat earth. So when I was when

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I left school, I kind of
knew something was up because they they didn't

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teach me the law. And I
never understood why they didn't teach the law

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at school. You think, you
know, that'd be like the first thing

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you teach for to children, but
they didn't. They didn't teach the law.

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So I was very very confused by
that. And then I saw the

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quote by John D. Rockefeller he
wants workers, not thinkers. So that

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kind of made me like, okay, so it's just a sort of make

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this capitalist society keep going. And
you know, you do need bin men

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and people like that, I suppose, and you know, garbage men or

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whatever you want to call them.
But when I left I had a very

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atheistic mindset. I had, like
all my friends who were really into religion,

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I would just love to debate them
because I'm always somebody who wants answers.

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I want to know the truth.
I want to get as close to

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the truth as possible. And luckily
his school gave me a lot of ammunition

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to fight against God. And one
of them was, you know, why

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are we just on a spinning ball
in the middle of nowhere? It doesn't

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make sense right. And all these
other things as well, like life and

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other planets, dinosaurs, evolution,
They were all like ammunition that I used

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against God to sort of like push
the idea that you know, there is

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no God. And it wasn't until
I left and I went to university.

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I was living with my good housemate. I'll give him a shout out because

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he's an absolute legend. He was
telling me about chemtrails and I would sort

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of just laugh at him, like
this guy's been smoking too much. Don't

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know what he's doing, you know. And then it got to the point

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where I was I had so much
anxiety built up. I was looking for

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just any escape, and he said, you should try this meditation. So

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I was like, okay, I'll
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I tried it, and have you
heard of a guy called Wim Hoff

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William Huff wim Hoff. Wim Hoff
doesn't ring a bell. Definitely worth checking

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out. So he's like a Dutch
motivational speaker. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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but he's got a bunch of like
human endurance Inness World records. He can

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like raise his body temperature, submerged
and ice. There's some pretty cool,

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pretty cool stuff. But I looked
into him and he teaches a free breathing

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method, which is like all there
is is thirty deep breaths followed by a

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breath hold, and it sounded really
it sounded really appealing to me at the

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time because obviously it's free. Anybody
can do it. You can breathe anywhere

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anytime. They can't charge you for
a Luckily, so I did that for

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the first time and it was the
only thing that gave me peace and clarity.

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And not only that, but when
I did it, I did it

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in like a dark room with my
eyes closed. I started seeing all these

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cimatic patterns and it just confirmed to
me that there is a god and it

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just completely changed my lens of seeing
the world and the world around me.

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So yeah, definitely worth checking out
whim Off. That's interesting. I was

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just reading his quick bio. Every
now and then I'll follow a YouTube channel

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called Yes Theory, and apparently they
made a short film about this guy.

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Again, I'm not it looks like
he's, like, like you said,

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into physical endurance type of things,
going ice water and things of that nature.

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Yeah. Yeah, the field means, you know whatever action Chuck Norris,

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Yeah, yeah, no, he's
He's pretty incredible. And it was

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the s Theory video documentary I watched
that inspired me to actually do it,

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because he was talking about not having
anxiety, and I'd go online and search

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up like cures for anxiety, and
all I could see is just bullshit pharmaceutical

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products that are just going to make
me a numb zombie with no emotions.

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And I started to realize, you
know, why aren't they teaching this in

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school as well? You know?
So I started going deeper and deeper down

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the rabbit hole and started to look
into the Masons and the fact that we're

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only really taught about the Masons in
school. Charles Darwin, Isaac Newton,

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even Dmitri Mendelev who was like he
made the periodic table. He turns out

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he was a Mason as well,
And I was like, why are we

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only being taught about this one cult
who have to swear that they, you

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know, can't reveal their secrets.
It didn't make sense to me. I'm

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like, why are we not being
taught about like the greats like Michaelson and

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Morley Nicola, Tesla, you know, all these guys. Why are they

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leaving them out? And then after
a while I slowly started to It's like

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a bunch of puzzle pieces all scattered, and I was like putting them together

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slowly, But I still wasn't like
ready to let go of the ball,

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because of course that one's that one's
tough, that's that one's really I feel

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like I've got a lot of friends
who are just they're almost there, but

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they're not there yet. They're just
they can't let go of that ball.

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It's like their little Santa Claus,
you know. But I came across a

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flatter video and I was I was
completely against the whole theory up until this

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point, and I didn't actually know
it was a flatter video. It was

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just labeled as misinformation. So I
clicked. I was like, oh,

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this must be some truth because they
center everything else. I clicked on it

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and it was flat earth, So
really really started to get interested in that

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went down the whole rabbit hole.
Started listening to debates and like like David

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Weiss, and one thing I did
notice is that one he was making way

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more sense than who he was arguing
against. And two the people he would

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argue against were really really rude to
him, like they would just make fun

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of him, and they weren't really
making any good points that can be like

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testable, repeatable points. All their
points were just insulting him, and that

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really annoyed me. And then eventually
I just started listening to podcasts that was

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solely based on flat Earth. And
I came across a podcast you might you

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might have heard of it. It's
called the Flat Files. I came across

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your podcast, and yeah, it
was. It was, it was.

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It was eye opening, and I'll
never forget it when I fully woke up

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and accepted we don't live on a
ball. I was, I was on

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the coach, I was going back
to university, and I was listening to

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your podcast about the history of the
flat Earth. Huh, and everything you

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said just just made so much up
until and I was at a point where

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you know, I knew about the
masons, I knew that the world was

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controlled. I knew that, you
know, I knew about Behemium Grove at

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that point, all these and the
music industry as well. How satanic that

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is, yeah, and how they're
trying to destroy the world. And it

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clicked was I was literally surrounded by
forty random people on a coach and I

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just made like the most in the
same discovery of my life that we don't

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live on a ball and it was
pretty crazy. I almost had to like

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restrain myself from showing like the world
is flat. Yeah, yeah, I

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didn't want to get put on a
straight jacket on the coach. Yeah,

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but yeah, you're right, it
is overwhelming. But I do want to

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thank you, George, because without
you, I don't know if I would

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have actually fully woken up. I
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you know, it's a domino effect. I was the same way when I

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first woke up. I was watching
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something that really made me mad,
something that you were just talking about.

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You know, these people would invite
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YouTube channel as a guest, right, and they would treat him like crap.

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I'm like this, You invited this
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thing to disagree with him, but
there was some people that treated him so

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nasty and it just infuriates you.
And the way he handles it, by

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the way, he's a true champ. Oh for sure. I think he's

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one of the best in the business. I just like absolutely not letting it

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get to him and just sticking to
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because it really I feel like what
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to make fun of him. It's
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put me off supporting them anyway.
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much further along, you had mentioned
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yesterday. Is your father on board
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space is fake? Or where is
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never believe this. But he's been
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twenty eighteen. I've just been really
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to god, he's been mentioning it
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make a joke about it now and
we're trying to get my brother, my

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little brother on board with it,
and we're slowly just like chipping away at

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him as the days go by.
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is flat. He's been following Eric
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day it was a lot easier before
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they asked flat look into it.
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approached by the Masons in the early
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part of their part of a lodge, and he declined. But that's how

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that's how he knows about a lot
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is your government heavy handed on the
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schools over in the UK? Oh, yeah, definitely. And not only

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that, but I stupidly took sociology
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further education just before you go to
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it was really weird because they would
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and I was making I was trying
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more oppressed in today's society, and
they would just not have it, they

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would not take it. They would
give me an f and fail me every

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time. And I tried to stick
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not doing too well on that subject. So yeah, it's interesting when you

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look at the Bible and you look
at how society is run today. There

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are so many conflicts, and the
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Joshua ten thirteen maybe that says that, you know, if you follow Jesus

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Chrace, you're going to be persecuted. And we see it time and time

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again. There was a report that
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I think in the state of Indiana, which we've reported on yesterday,

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that this couple had their child taken
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fifteen year old child because they did
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it was they had a son and
he wanted to be addressed as like Karen

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and you know, by her pronoun
his pronouns, and the school called the

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state. The state actually took the
child out of the house because the parents

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refuse. It's just we're really at
that nineteen eighty four meets Big Brother meets

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you name it. When you say
things like this, you just start to

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shudder and think, my goodness,
what's really going on? And that's why

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I'm so passionate ever since I've started
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all stems from education. These children
get brainwashed in school all one. And

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it definitely wasn't as bad when I
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younger brother who's still in school,
and some of the things he comes home

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and tells me about it is just
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I mean, we were all brainwashed
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like now they're really overstepping their boundaries
and seeing what they can get away with

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because a lot of our parents are
brainwashed as well, so they just accept

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it, you know. Yeah,
And you know it's funny. Winston Churchill,

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he's the guy who said history will
be kind to me for I intend

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to write it. So he openly, you know, as they say,

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the spoils go to the victor,
and those who win in these wards they

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write history, and that is proved
his story. Yeah, his story,

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It's proof right there that what you're
reading is nonsense and people and here's the

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thing, there's evidence to show the
other side of the story. It's all

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out there. And that's one of
the things that have taken away as critical

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thinking. They don't have debates.
It's just this is the story, that's

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it. We're going to test you
on it, and if you don't get

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it right, we're going to fail
you. So it's basically and then you're

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gonna not get a good grade and
not get a good job, and you'll

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be homeless. So they really mind
fuck you, you know, they do,

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so in doing that what allows critical
thinking? That is just we're going

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to tell you something. You're going
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you're going to fail. It is
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in school and they don't teach us
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Yeah. Yeah. The law that
one really bothers me because we have a

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bit of a crisis over here in
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how bad it is in the States, but the police, the law enforces

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don't know the law, which is
really really scary because you've got people being

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arrested, body can footage being deleted, and there's so many injustices going around,

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and of course they wear the nice
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they've got the checkerboards all over them, and the imagery is just it's all

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out there, but people don't know
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goes over everyone's heads, you know. Yeah, And that's a great point

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you make that we don't talk about
enough. I don't know if you've ever

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heard of the YouTube channel High Impact
Flicks. I think the guy's name is

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Brian. Many of the videos he
highlights is of these people. They'll get

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pulled over and by people who know
the law up and down, and they'll

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question the police, and then the
coup will just be dumbfounded that these people

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actually know their rights. It's very
important to know your rights. I mean,

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that is such a great point.
Yeah, they almost seem annoyed when

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when you start actually like knowing the
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fine. I think a lot of
these police officers as well, the reason

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why they go into that sort of
line of work, not all of them.

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There's a lot of good cops.
Absolutely. Yeah, we have a

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lot of great listeners that a lot
of them were bullied at school, and

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you know, they just want to
take it out on us. I don't

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know why. Yeah, And look, there's there's bad apples in every walk

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of life. Nurses, doctors,
military, you know, there's always going

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to be bad apples. But unfortunately, in that line of work it can

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cost you your your freedom. So
if we're going to vet that, they

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needed to be vetted at the highest
level. But even worse, most of

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the judges and politicians are even more
corrupted. So it's really hard to overcome

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things like that. It's just very
frustrating, which ties back to the Freemasons,

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right, yeah, yeah, exactly. It was. It was amazing

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over Christmas. I saw it on
my family, and you know, my

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view is not too popular at the
at the dinner table, I'm usually told

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to be quiet by my mom and
that sort of thing. So it was

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it was Actually it was refreshing to
go there this time around and actually have

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a lot of good points to make
because I feel like when you start talking

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about this stuff, you do have
to know a fair bit. You can't

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just make claims and have no evidence, and which is not what I was

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doing before, but now just got
way more to back it up, and

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I know how to tackle people,
and you know, I get people to

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the point where they say they don't
care if it's flat around Basically, you

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know, you ever get those people
who you know, you give them all

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the evidence and they just they hit
you with, oh, I don't care.

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That is basically their way of submitting
without giving you Yeah, yeah,

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exactly, right, Oh whatever,
it doesn't matter. That's the way of

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tapping out without saying I tap out. What's interesting to me is I've found

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this out over the years when I
have these discussions with people. We know

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more about the globe theory than they
do, and these people people, and

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that's something I'll point out to him. You can't tell me how far away

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the sun is. You can't tell
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yet you're defending it blindly. What
are you doing? Yeah, yeah,

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exactly. That That really bothers me
because I'll say to people how far is

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the sun? Oh? Just google
it? And it's like, well,

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you're putting all your faith into Google. What if the guy who runs Google

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doesn't have good intentions? You know, then you're then you're fucked and I

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always say to people as well,
you know, ninety three million miles away,

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why if it's ninety three million miles
away, why at twelve pm is

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it so bright you can't even look
at it? But at seven pm the

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same sun can see the whole thing. But it's still ninety three million miles

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away. But now you can look
at it. Now it's got this nice

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orange glow around it, and it's
you know, it's getting DeMar you take

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take a camera and zoom in on
it. You can see it's getting smaller,

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and it's like, how did I
miss that? Even I didn't didn't

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see that for many years. But
it's the indoctrination, like you say,

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and you get answers like, oh, it's the atmosphere, it's the tilt,

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yeah, yeah, yeah. They
can't explain how it works, but

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they'll use words like yeah, it's
the atmosphere. I had that literally about

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two weeks ago. I was at
a birthday dinner and of course I have

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to mention the flat earth, and
of course everybody on the table starts to

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groan and moan, and I just
love it. I love making people uncomfortable

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with this topic. And I feel
like the only way people are going to

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wake up is if we speak about
it. Otherwise you know, no one's

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going to know. And I will
tell you. I think since twenty eighteen,

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twenty nineteen, there has been a
huge shift in the view of flat

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earthers. I don't think even just
within the last year or two that stigma

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is still there, which is we
always say we shift, they shift.

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You know, Think what has happened
just over the last twenty four hours,

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Arvin. We've had another moon landing, We've had solar flares, so their

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fight against us is constant. And
then you know, you will get a

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thousand emails what about the solar flares? You know that just landed on the

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Moon. So it is constant struggle
against and many of these peoples we struggle

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to get the information to are quote
unquote truthers, right, they understand nine

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to eleven and everything else, but
they so many people will still stop short

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at the flat earth line. Yeah, I find the most frustrating thing about

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it. I've got it with my
younger brother now. He's very awake to

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a lot of it, pretty much
all of it apart from flat off.

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And I said to him the other
day, I said, so you think

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they're lying about everything apart from this, And he said yes, and I

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just started laughing, because what else
can you do at that point? Brother?

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You know, that's just like having
a spouse that cheats on you and

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cheats on you and cheats on you, and that she doesn't come home last

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night and she's like, but seriously, I didn't cheat on you, and

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then you right, exactly exactly.
It's like, you know, be critical

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have you know? I think one
major part of why people can't let go

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of it is because if this is
a lie, then it's all a lie.

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You know, the pharmaceutical companies,
you know, Covid, everything that

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the food we you know, everything
is a lie. We here in the

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States, I am seeing another shift. I'm glad you brought that up.

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Even some of the normous normans are
starting to understand how deep the clause of

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the you know, the medical industrial
complex have into this world. We have

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a guy over here who's like,
he has a sports account and a TV

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show and he's the most jovial,
laughable guy. Even he's like, what

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is going on with the medical and
these commercials where you know, it can

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fix my skin, but I can
have a stroke. And you know,

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people are starting to finally understand what's
going on in this world. So it

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is once again it's kind of refreshing
to see that even the normies are starting

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to catch on. But you know, they're slowly, slowly getting there.

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And I mean, like I said, if it wasn't for like very fortunate

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events, my dad being a truth
you know, my teacher when I was

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very young saying that we didn't go
to the moon, all of these things

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have shaped me into the person I
am. I've been very fortunate to have

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these truths, and a lot of
people just go about their lives and their

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parents aren't truths, and they're not
looking into this, and they're also brainwashed,

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so you do have to give them
a bit of sympathy. I never

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I never get angry. One time
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when I was actually arguing against flat
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time I would get angry. But
when I'm angry when I'm arguing for the

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truth, you can't get angry when
you know it's the truth. You know,

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your dad must have been thrilled when
you finally said, hey Dad,

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I'm a flat earther. You would
definitely be listening to this. You'll definitely

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be listening to this when it comes
out. That's awesome. But you know

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what, you've validated a couple of
things in your message just then. You

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know, when your teacher message or
said, you know, gave reasons why

408
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.440
we didn't go to the moon,
and your father maybe that those particular moments

409
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.799
didn't change you at that point to
being a flat earther, but they were

410
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.680
seeds that were planted inside you.
And that's why I tell people it's important

411
00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.119
to bring it up, even if
you don't, whether it's your spouse or

412
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.519
your friend, Even though they may
not believe it that day, when they

413
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.799
come across it again, they're going
to remember that conversation and it may be

414
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:45.319
just enough to push them into doing
a little research for sure. For sure,

415
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:51.279
I kind of went the opposite route
when I first found out that is

416
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.839
flat. So obviously I was on
the coach. I was listening to your

417
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.799
podcast. I realized it's flat.
I couldn't believe it, you know.

418
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.319
I started looking outside the way,
no, looking at the sun, looking

419
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:03.960
at all of it and thinking,
yeah, this is how they've done it,

420
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:04.920
you know, And this is how
they've done it through the years because

421
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.359
I couldn't work it out before.
But then I listened to the history of

422
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:12.160
the flat Earth, and it made
so much sense, and with everything I

423
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:17.279
already knew, it was like the
final piece of the jigsaw puzzle. But

424
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:21.480
I went back to university on the
coach. First thing I did called up

425
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:25.279
my best mate. I said,
we're going down to the bar. We're

426
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:26.720
having a beer and I want to
I want to talk to you. And

427
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:33.920
I just laid it on so thick
every single day, and eventually he caved

428
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:36.160
in. Right now, he said, he said he's on the fence,

429
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:37.759
but if he was to put his
life on the line, he'd say it

430
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.440
was flat. So I'd take that
as a win. For me. That's

431
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.720
a win. That's a huge win. And once you get there, there's

432
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:51.759
no going back. Nothing can convince
me, can convince me. We live

433
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:57.039
on a ball now. It's just
it's it's frustrating, but it's also it's

434
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.160
it's amazing to know the truth and
to be one of the very few people

435
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:05.079
who does know. And I feel
like, you know, I could be

436
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.519
selfish and keep it to myself,
but and like you said, I think

437
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:12.880
you said on a previous podcast.
If you want to lose all respect from

438
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.240
everyone around you, just say that
you're a flat Arthur. Yeah, I

439
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:20.400
love it when people say I'm doing
it. Yeah, it's trust me.

440
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:28.680
I don't get many texts anymore from
many of my friends. And it goes

441
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.559
back to the same thing they play, the why is it important? Card?

442
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:35.839
The who cares? But at the
same time, these are the same

443
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:39.640
people that and again I'm not everybody
needs to have their their release, et

444
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:45.119
cetera. But these are the same
people that will inundate themselves with sports and

445
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:50.839
music and other nonsensical things, that
will at the same time say how meaningless

446
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:55.680
this is. So it's almost I
don't know, is it. I don't

447
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.519
want to be disrespectful. But are
they too lazy to look into it?

448
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.079
Are they afraid of being labeled flat
earther? Or you know? Is it?

449
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:07.400
Obviously a lifetime of programming is what
we're up against. Oh, for

450
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.920
sure. The indoctrination's so deep,
like you said, And another thing as

451
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:14.599
well, ignorance is bliss. Ignorance
is bliss. You know. I think

452
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.680
there was a point where I knew
it was flat, but I didn't fully

453
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.319
accept it. I didn't like subconsciously, I just couldn't accept it because you

454
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:24.720
know, like I said, if
this is a lie, then it's all

455
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.240
a lie. And obviously I feel
a lot better knowing that now, because

456
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.880
I, like you said, today
with the shuttle landing on the Moon,

457
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.839
and you know, we can just
see straight through it, but there's people

458
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:43.279
who don't see through it, and
they just believe it without any proof.

459
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:47.400
It's amazing. Yeah. I was
just having a conversation with someone via email

460
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:52.440
the last day or two and I
had mentioned I just don't undertand I don't

461
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:59.079
understand, excuse me how people can
not see this stuff, and he replied

462
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.559
they choose not to see it,
which I was like, yeah, you're

463
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.920
probably right for sure. For sure, they don't want they don't want it

464
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:13.360
to not be true, because like
I said, you know, any movie

465
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:16.559
you watched, you mentioned this so
many times. Any movie you watched today,

466
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:20.559
there'll be a globe yep, and
a lot of the big ones,

467
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.639
like the Marvel movies. They're all
about space. People like the idea of

468
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:29.039
other planets and other galaxies and oh
maybe there's life, And they're pushing this

469
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.559
alien stuff pretty hard. Now.
I'm seeing a lot of like UFO videos

470
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:37.719
and I've actually captured pictures of it, like them testing their bluebeam whatever you

471
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:43.519
want to call it. Yeah,
over by the by the South coast.

472
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.079
Yeah, it's definitely going to be
interesting to see what they have in store

473
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:52.840
for us this year. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm slightly nervous, but you

474
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.360
know, I've told a lot of
people, you know, if the aliens

475
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:59.920
come, just know it's it's not
real. Just remember it's not real.

476
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:05.000
And remember my voice when you see
the aliens come down. You know that's

477
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:09.920
right? Did did? I was
looking at your your silver bullets and one

478
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:14.119
of them was the Masonic history of
Flat Earth? Is that something you want

479
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:19.079
to talk about a little bit?
Yeah, definitely, definitely for me.

480
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.599
The I went through all the people
who have proposed that we live on a

481
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:30.239
globe, starting with like Pythagoras or
NASA on the website claims that Pythagoras was

482
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:34.239
the first person to actually propose we
went on a globe. And if you

483
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:42.320
type in Pythagoras Freemason into Google,
punched that in and you'll see a nice

484
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:46.239
little Masonic website giving him praise and
talking about his Masonic origins. And then

485
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:52.519
of course it was Copernicus next,
who was, you know, the guy

486
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.199
who actually came up with the heliocentric
model that we teach today. I'm not

487
00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:59.000
sure how far away he said the
sun was, because I know they had

488
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.239
changed that over the year. I
think it was a million, then ninety

489
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:05.719
three million. I mean, they
just keep changing it to you know,

490
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:09.639
the maths for the maths to work. So you know, I looked into

491
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:14.559
him, and there's a there's a
there's a lodge named after him, Copernicus.

492
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.519
I believe it's in New York Laurel
Park, Lodge number forty five.

493
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.039
So you know, he's tied to
the Masons. And all you got to

494
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:27.079
do, I say to people,
read Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike.

495
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:30.000
You know, it's like the Free
Mason Bible goes to page three two one,

496
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.840
and you know, if they believe
in God and they fear God,

497
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:38.159
they will see that these guys do
not fear God. They worship Lucifer.

498
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:44.639
So I always try and make that
clear to people. You know, you're

499
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:51.119
not taking you're not taking a scientist's
side, you're taking the devil's side,

500
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:54.559
essentially. I always try and make
that really clear. And of course after

501
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:59.639
that you've got Isaac Newton theory of
gravity. I know you're on the other

502
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.639
side of the globe there, George, So just try to be careful,

503
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:06.559
try not to fall off. Okay, okay, good thing, you've got

504
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.400
that gravity keeping you there. Thank
you good. I know, right.

505
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:15.960
But Isaac Newton again, you know, he was a leader of the Royal

506
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:19.599
Society, which is still around today. They still make videos with people like

507
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:24.760
Brian Cox doing speaks on Benjamin Franklin, another Freemason. So they love just

508
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:29.840
talking about their gang. And I
call them a gang because I feel like

509
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:34.239
that's what they are. They're a
gang. They're a gang of Satan worshipers.

510
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:38.559
That's the best way I can put
it, really well said. By

511
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:44.800
the way, if you go to
Universal Freemasonry dot org, it has stated

512
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:51.559
that the records of the Fraternity informansts
that Pythagoras was regularly initiated into masonry,

513
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:57.519
and being properly instructed into the mysteries
of the art, he was much improved

514
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.840
and propagated the principles of the order
and other countries into which he afterwards traveled.

515
00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.280
So again here you go, the
guy who was, you know,

516
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:13.280
purportedly the founder of the globe,
theory of freemason a deceiver, So argue

517
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:15.880
all you want. I mean,
the proof is in the pudding. And

518
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.079
by the way, Copernicus, there's
there's several lodges named after him. There's

519
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:22.639
one in Toronto, Yeah, one
in Toronto, the one in New York

520
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:27.960
City that you had mentioned, and
I think there was there was one somewhere

521
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.360
else. I can't remember it off
the top of my head. Yeah,

522
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:36.320
I know, Isaac Newton has the
Cambridge Lodge, And obviously Cambridge is a

523
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:44.320
very like, oh yeah school,
highly established school and highly respected in the

524
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.119
mainstream. And you know they've just
named that lodge after him. And then

525
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:53.239
I'm not too sure about Einstein.
I looked into him, but he did

526
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:55.840
say, funnily enough, they asked
him, what's it like to be the

527
00:38:55.840 --> 00:39:00.320
smartest man alive? And he said, you'll have to ask Nicola Tesla.

528
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.440
So you know, for me,
that just that says it all. And

529
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:09.719
when you research Tesla's some of his
quotes, I can't find any videos of

530
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.760
him speaking, but a lot of
his quotes say that we live in a

531
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:19.559
realm, and he was really opposed
to like the theory of gravity and all

532
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.480
these other theories. They love to
call them theories as well, that's the

533
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:25.840
funny part about it. Theory of
evolution, big bang theory. And you

534
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.039
know, if I ever see the
word theory, I just I lose my

535
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:39.039
mind, you know. Yes,
but yeah, they're they're pretty they're pretty

536
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:45.800
good at making these things like these
theories believable. At school, they were

537
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.920
still calling it a theory. I
think nowadays they kind of try and pass

538
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.440
it off as as truth. But
when I was at school, they did

539
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:59.559
call it the theory of evolution,
and I completely agreed with it because everything

540
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.400
we had a whole exam on it. So I had to memorize all these

541
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:07.599
lies to then write about these lies. And then, like you said,

542
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:12.519
if I didn't write about these lies
and remember them, then I would fail.

543
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.159
You know who wants to fail?
Of course. Yeah, so they're

544
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:20.679
going to beat into submission and answer
correctly, and that's that. That is

545
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.639
something that again I didn't even bother
thinking about until I got into the truth

546
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:27.880
community. And then it didn't take
me very long to get down the education

547
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.599
rabbit or to understand how the system
is set up to get us to buy

548
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:36.559
into this matrix that we live in
today. Yeah, yeah, it really

549
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:43.360
is a matrix. And I just
I find it really really just amazing that

550
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:47.320
there are people like you, because
a year ago I was telling my friend

551
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:51.440
to listen to you, to your
podcast, and I was saying, they're

552
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.239
going to take him down soon.
But they seem to just keep you guys

553
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:59.880
up, people like David Wisse,
Eric Debay. I know they heavily suppress

554
00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:04.960
you guys, but you're still there, which is really really promising. Yeah,

555
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.119
on the podcast side, the YouTube
I haven't posted on YouTube. I

556
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:12.639
know that can be hit and miss
on the video side, but they haven't

557
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:16.920
touched really, they haven't touched podcasters
quite yet, and hopefully it remains that

558
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:21.320
way. By the way, going
back to your gravity theory, even here

559
00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:27.000
the National Senate, I'm sorry,
the National Center for Science Education, on

560
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:31.840
their website, it says that the
theory of gravity is it's a theory.

561
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.320
Yeah, they go. They can't
test it, they can't measure it.

562
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.679
I know Brian Cox made a video, and funnily enough, I did a

563
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:44.079
bit of research from Brian Cox because
my friend was sending me videos of him

564
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:49.239
doing all these gravity experiments and I
was really interested to see what kind of

565
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.519
dot I could find in him,
and I typed his name in, followed

566
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:59.039
by Freemason, and a tweet came
up from twenty sixteen where someone else asked

567
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.719
him. David Cox said, how
comp I didn't see any curvature on your

568
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:07.119
show, and he responded saying,
because the Earth is flat and I'm paid

569
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:12.320
one million dollars by NASA to say
it's spherical, which only got about forty

570
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.320
six retweets at the time. I
mean, he's got like hundreds of thousands

571
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.880
followers. Now, what a time
to do it. I know, they

572
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:22.039
have to tell the truth. So
you picked a great time to actually say

573
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:23.519
that, you know, Yeah,
that was the right time to disclose.

574
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:29.639
For sure. It's interesting. Even
the Encyclopedia Britannica right now has the Newtonian

575
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:35.199
theory of gravity is all based on
assumptions, which it is, and that

576
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:39.480
is something once again you're teaching.
It was the same way for me back

577
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:44.599
in the day. That was gravity
was it. That's what we were taught.

578
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.840
That's why we didn't float off into
outer space. That's what we were

579
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:51.599
always taught. If the world stopped
spinning, we would float off into outer

580
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:55.039
space. That's what we were taught. Monday through Friday and then Sunday we

581
00:42:55.079 --> 00:43:00.280
would go to church and we were
taught that God stop the sun than the

582
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.079
moon, and it's just yeah,
that's the world we live in, and

583
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.280
these are the thing. Once again, I didn't pick that up as a

584
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.880
child. You just don't. It's
because we are so focused on everything else.

585
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:14.320
We have so many distractions, especially
now with the cell phones, the

586
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:19.440
video games. It's it's at it. My little brother's glued to his to

587
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:23.119
his console every single day. It's
it's so hard to get into to actually

588
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:28.800
have a sensible conversation with him.
I feel like they're slowly, somehow dumbing

589
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:35.599
down each generation to just be like
workers, just like Rockefeller intended. And

590
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:37.480
you know, they're very good at
it. We've given credit what credit is

591
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:42.599
to you. They are very good
at being evil. Yeah. We we

592
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:45.800
as a society as this, you
know, as a generation, have to

593
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:51.199
do a better job into, you
know, stressing the importance of things outside

594
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.480
of the entertainment realm, which we
so easily throw our free, free time

595
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:58.440
into. By the way, I
mean, you're obviously still a yet,

596
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.599
are you in your early twenties.
I'm twenty four, just turned twenty four.

597
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:05.719
Yeah, and you For somebody who's
twenty four, you've got a lot

598
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:09.360
of wisdom and you've been obviously doing
a lot of research. Congrats on that.

599
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:15.039
You're too kind. You're too kind, George, Go ahead, go

600
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:21.800
ahead. I just wanted to touch
on what was my second point that I

601
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:24.480
sent over to No aviation accounts for
the curve. That's it. Yeah.

602
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:29.599
Yeah, So my good friend,
who, like I said, I managed

603
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:34.679
to get him on the fence about
flowers. He flies planes, so a

604
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:36.840
lot of the stuff I was saying
to him, he had a really good

605
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:42.719
reference because he doesn't fly commercially,
but he has flown planes before, and

606
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.960
I was saying, you know,
did you see any curve? Do you

607
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.880
have to account for any curve?
And he knows there is no curve,

608
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:52.320
you know, And I think that
really woke him up, because I don't

609
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.719
think he ever really thought about it, like, oh, there should be

610
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:59.480
a curve or I should be accountant
for a curve. I know he has

611
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:06.519
an ultimate, but that doesn't that
just keeps you at like a certain attitude.

612
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.920
You'll know if the nose is dipping
down or going up. So for

613
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:15.159
him, he woke up pretty quickly, just based on the fact that he

614
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:21.000
was not accounting for any curvature whilst
flying. And then the big one which

615
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:23.360
people talk about that you mentioned is
your third one about the pictures of the

616
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:30.480
globe. Yes, yes, yes, So when it comes to the pictures,

617
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:36.199
and you know, tell someone anyone
listening right now who wants to try

618
00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.599
and wake somebody up, I'd say, you know, tell them to pick

619
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:44.840
their favorite picture of the globe and
prove it's real. And it's it's very

620
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.559
difficult to prove which one is real
because they all look different. They all

621
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:52.480
have different shades of color, they
all have different continents, different sizes.

622
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:57.400
You know, Africa looks bigger in
this one. And I think the famous

623
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:01.000
one that it's it's the marble,
right marble. I think it's called that's

624
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:05.559
right, the one on the Apple
phone. Yes, yes, I mean

625
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:10.800
didn't the guy who actually the artist
who made that. He basically said,

626
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.000
NASA gave him the flat map and
then he just kind of wrapped it around

627
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.320
the ball and added some clouds.
And it's so it's actually hilarious when you

628
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.199
when you listen to them talking about
it, it's so funny. And the

629
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:28.760
only one they've got that's legitimate that
they claim to be real is the one

630
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.960
from the moon landing. So it
all goes back to I know you had

631
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:34.920
bart sa Brell on here. My
dad's a big fan of him, and

632
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.800
we've got his book, moon Man, So I highly recommend that book to

633
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:44.360
anyone who wants to look into the
moon landing a bit more for sure.

634
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:49.400
Yeah he I mean, you said
bart sebrel Yes, yeah, yeah,

635
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.000
I mean just the videos of him
twenty years ago. Maybe it wasn't that

636
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.639
long ago, but the one that
was insane was where he was with one

637
00:46:55.639 --> 00:47:00.239
of the astronauts and he left.
He remember he was rushed out of there,

638
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:02.000
but the microphone was still on him. He's like, Dad, you

639
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:07.840
want me to call the CIA and
take him out. It's like what they're

640
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.159
just so blatant with it as well, they're just it's it's it makes me

641
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:15.000
laugh how it goes over people's heads. And you've even got I think it

642
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:21.199
was Neil Armstrong. Recently a little
girl asked him about the moon landing and

643
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.199
why we haven't gone back, and
he said, oh, well, it's

644
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:27.639
because it never happened. And I
think he's just sick of lying about it

645
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:29.679
at this point. I mean,
I would be. Yeah, that was

646
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:31.960
buzz Aldron, Yeah, buzz Aldrin, Yes, yeah, that's it.

647
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:37.559
But yeah, what do you think
about the fact that these astronauts are coming

648
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:42.559
out and speaking about it and no
one seems to really be giving it much

649
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.000
attention. I think for the same
reason we're seeing everything else in the world

650
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:50.280
right now, because nobody really cares, and it's it's mockery now they know

651
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.239
no matter what, nobody's going to
do anything about it. That's where we

652
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:57.440
are at this point in the world. So now it's just full full blown

653
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:00.599
mockery. By the way, I
do want to thank one of our listeners

654
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:06.320
I think it's pronounced Adele, who
had reached out and mentioned one of our

655
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:12.239
episodes. They'd mentioned Josh Powers as
the author of the Blue Marble. It

656
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:17.480
was what is his name? Robert
Simon is actually the designer who made the

657
00:48:17.480 --> 00:48:22.920
infamous blue marble. He created that
image for, of course, what would

658
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:30.079
become the home photo for the iPhone. Yeah, and of course, you

659
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.440
know Apple, all these big tech
companies are all part of it. And

660
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:39.159
sure, I think people don't like
to hear that because you know, everybody's

661
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:45.119
got an iPhone, everybody's got you
know, a smartphone or even I'm using

662
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:49.960
like my my MacBook right now from
Apple. You know, we're using the

663
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.639
tools of the oppressor, but at
the same time, we're using them for

664
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:57.960
good. You know, this podcast, for example, is one of the

665
00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:00.880
best things we can do is talk
about subjects. And I know for a

666
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:05.840
fact that one of the best ways
any listener can try and wake people up

667
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:08.719
is to do exactly what I'm doing
now, which is coming on to this

668
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:14.559
podcast talking with you, George.
And the only reason why I say that

669
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:19.280
is because anytime I would say to
people, you should listen to this podcast,

670
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.360
oh, what's it called the Flatter
Files, immediately just they're never going

671
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:27.480
to listen. But if they know
that their friend or their family member or

672
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.239
a loved one is going on,
they're going to listen. I know all

673
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.440
my friends are going to listen.
So it's it's a really good way of

674
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.519
like getting them into the circle.
And that's that's exactly why I'm on today.

675
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.599
You know, I'm going to be
sending this to everybody, and I

676
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:44.880
know for sure it will you know, interest them. They will have to

677
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:49.480
look further into it because you know, or they just hate me and they

678
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:52.559
just don't want to hear my voice. I don't know, but if they're

679
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.360
true friends there was there will certainly
listen. And yeah, I'm sure they

680
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:59.039
will. Now I want to throw
something at you because I got an email

681
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.199
a couple of days ago, and
I'll tell you how I answered after I

682
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:06.639
bring this to you. We have
said that many of these astronauts are kind

683
00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.239
of semi disclosing, like like you
said that the infamous question from that little

684
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:13.840
girl and she's like, because we
didn't go. And I think he was

685
00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:17.440
even on a TV show five years
ago where he kind of joked about not

686
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:22.719
going. Obviously, all three of
those from Apollo eleven eleven is a big

687
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:27.440
number of course for them and Apollo. All these missions are you know,

688
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:35.000
named after their gods. But Charlie
Duke, he was one of the I

689
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:40.400
think the last group of Apollo astronauts
to quote unquote walk on the moon.

690
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:45.800
And apparently this guy, Charlie Duke, I've seen some of his interviews.

691
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:51.880
He's a big Christian and professes that, you know, he swears that he

692
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:55.960
walked on the moon. And I'm
again, I don't buy it for a

693
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:02.000
second, but I wonder, I'm
not sure sure if you have ever gone

694
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:08.480
down the mk ultra rabbit hole.
I wonder if I don't believe for a

695
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:13.840
second that any of the first three
astronauts that that was fake the whole way

696
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.480
and they're lying about it. You
could see it on their conscious But I

697
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:19.599
wonder if the other ones, like
Charlie Duke, I wonder if they were

698
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:23.599
somehow brainwashed and they believe they went
to the moon because mk ultra is real.

699
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:29.079
There's video of Bill Clinton in nineteen
ninety five coming out and apologizing for

700
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.800
it. Do you think there's a
chance they manipulated these people's minds into the

701
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:37.440
believe that they actually went to the
moon or they just just pathological, evil

702
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:42.920
liars. It could be one of
could be both, But I definitely think

703
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:46.239
the timeline syncop nimicely around the time
where they would have been doing mk ultra

704
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:52.760
and these events. So it's definitely
within the realms of possibility. We can't

705
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:58.480
speculate and say it was or wasn't, but it's very likely it was.

706
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:05.159
I mean, was was like insane. It was it was you know,

707
00:52:05.559 --> 00:52:09.480
you can actually tap into someone's brain
and rewire it almost like a surgeon.

708
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:15.320
So it's scary stuff. But yeah, I think definitely, definitely possible.

709
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:21.880
I'm probably leaning eighty percent towards it
being true and that they actually did perform

710
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:24.719
these on a lot of these astronauts. Who was the one you mentioned just

711
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:30.079
now, Charlie Duke. Charlie Duke. Yeah, I'll definitely look into some

712
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:35.679
of his interviews. And I don't
claim to be a psychologist, but I

713
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:39.480
feel like I can read people sometimes
and I'll give them my best go for

714
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:45.559
sure. And what's funny is every
one of the astronauts pictures if you go

715
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:51.719
on Wikipedia or whatever, they have
their hands on a globe. Yeah.

716
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.480
Yeah, yeah, their little their
little the little fairy Tale. Yeah,

717
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:59.719
they gotta, they gotta stick their
hand on it. It is. It

718
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:05.760
is a amazing and for me,
the best, the best thing that we

719
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:07.559
can do, like I said,
is talk about it, but but also

720
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:15.159
you've got to come with evidence,
and it's it's almost our responsibility two learn

721
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:19.320
as much about Like you said,
we know more about the helos heliocentric model

722
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.440
than people who believe in it,
so that that does make me laugh as

723
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:25.920
well, because like I said,
I'll ask somebody how far the sun is

724
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:29.440
or whatever, and they'll say,
well, I don't need to know because

725
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:31.719
I have Google, and I feel
like if you can kind of wake them

726
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:36.719
up to see that, you know, Google is controlled. All these people,

727
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.880
they don't have your best intentions to
heart. Maybe show them some bohemium

728
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:45.039
grow footage or just whatever. Just
do whatever you can to wake them up,

729
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.039
because we we we got to win
this. We got to wait,

730
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:52.000
it's a war and we've got to
win the war. You know, this

731
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.960
is indeed a spiritual war one hundred
percent. And people better understand that there

732
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:01.559
may come a time where the Internet
may be gone for a period of time.

733
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:06.960
That's why here we print out our
recipes. We try to buy books,

734
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:12.239
you know, physical copies, just
because like for me, I tend

735
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:16.760
to believe that there's going to be
like what here in the United States,

736
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:20.880
the AT and T customers sold yesterday, They were out of service for eight

737
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:25.840
hours. Some people blamed a solar
flare, some people blamed the Chinese,

738
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.840
but again that may be one of
the cards they play. And in order

739
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:35.480
to get it back for our safety, we'll have to be some type of

740
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:42.320
biometric right safety and maybe it'll be
incorporated with a digital dollar. And again,

741
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.079
if you don't want to be affiliated
with that type of stuff that or

742
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:51.199
maybe they'll you know how the Social
credit score is currently being used in China,

743
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:53.480
So yeah, yeah, exactly.
So if you don't comply, if

744
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:59.239
you don't go back to Facebook and
delete that post that you made fun of

745
00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:04.360
Joe Biden about, you're not going
to have access to the internet. So

746
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:08.320
you know, sometimes things may seem, oh, George, it's too dystopian,

747
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:10.960
but I mean, look where we're
at. Look around you up in

748
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.400
your eyes exactly. Look in China. It's so crazy in China, some

749
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:20.599
of the things they've got going over
there where if you jaywalk, they'll take

750
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:22.239
a picture of your face and put
it on like I don't know if you've

751
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:27.039
seen, but they put your face
everywhere on all of these billboards. They

752
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:32.800
yeah, literally publicly shame you.
I mean, that could definitely happen.

753
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:37.039
And like you were saying, our
internet went out last night. I didn't

754
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:38.760
even know it was due to any
anything like that, but my dad said

755
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:42.800
this morning, he was like,
did you see the internet when out last

756
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:45.360
night? I was, oh,
I was, I was asleep. But

757
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:50.480
like you said, there could be
a blackout and we're prepared. We've been

758
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:54.760
my dad, he's got like a
he's always prepared for like some sort of

759
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:58.760
apocalypse or anything. So you know, we've got our gas cookers, loads

760
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:00.440
of gas, loads of fire,
I would, loads of can food.

761
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:06.599
And yeah, we're ready if it
does happen. And I feel like people

762
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:12.320
should get ready because it's very very
likely it's going to happen. Yep,

763
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.280
that's how we're operating here as well. You know, yeah, what do

764
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:17.679
they say? You know, I
hope for the best, expect the worst.

765
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.239
Number four you you mentioned flight pass
make no sense on the globe map.

766
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:29.360
We've really touched on that quite a
bit here Eddie's book on sixteen Emergency

767
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:31.519
Landings. Have you ever looked at
that or has your dad seen that?

768
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:37.159
The sixteen emergency landings that prove flat
Earth? No, he hasn't seen that.

769
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:44.320
And another of I but it gets
to a point where I already I

770
00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:47.960
already accepted that we don't live on
a ball at that point, and I

771
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:52.920
looked into the flight paths just by
going on to I pulled up a flat

772
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:57.599
off map, and I pulled up
the globe, one of many globes that

773
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:00.920
they've got. I know, they've
got hundreds of different models. It never

774
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:06.400
it's never consistent. But I pulled
up one of their clothes and I think

775
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:13.880
I punched in UK Heathrow Airport to
Peru, which is where my family was

776
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:17.519
going. And I looked at where
they were stopping off and it was it

777
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:22.519
was not a straight line, but
on the flat off map it was pretty

778
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:25.079
much a straight line. So that
confirmed it all to me that, you

779
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:29.079
know, it just doesn't make sense
on a ball. Why would you go

780
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:34.760
all the way off into this direction
when you could just go straight unless you

781
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:39.679
are just going straight. Indeed,
and like many of our previous guests said,

782
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:45.519
when you're looking, especially when you're
going on the transoceanic flights and you're

783
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:49.320
watching the map, but you're you're
you're looking like, why are we making

784
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:53.039
this big arch not going straight?
It doesn't make any sense then, but

785
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:58.719
once you were you wake up to
flat Earth, it all makes perfect sense

786
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:00.280
for sure. Number five was an
inch one. You said, the NASA

787
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:07.199
PDFs show we live on a stationary, non rotating flat Earth. Yeah,

788
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:10.400
this is the one that my friends
hate me for because I always bring it

789
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:15.400
up and they can't explain it.
And it's not that they just put we

790
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:20.519
test our aircrafts over a flat earth. This is on you know, government,

791
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.800
These are government documents where if you
know about their karmic retribution and how

792
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:29.559
they're not allowed to lie and they've
got to tell the truth so we can't

793
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:32.920
sue them. Of course, they
can lie about anything else outside of legal

794
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:40.119
documents. But on the legal documents
they specifically put stationary, non rotating flat

795
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:45.679
earth, and not a single paragraph
says that they test it over a globe.

796
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:51.320
So for me, that's like a
real killer, real killer blow for

797
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:54.920
somebody trying to argue for the ball. And if you take your time to

798
00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:00.440
go on CIA doc GOV, FBI
doc GOV, Training annuals TMS for the

799
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:07.800
military, UH including the UH sixties, there's many documents out there that say

800
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:14.360
treat the earth as flat and non
rotational. Why would you if it wasn't

801
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:16.800
right? It makes no sense if
it were moving. Why would you treat

802
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:22.400
it as if it were not moving? Exactly exactly. It's a it's it's

803
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:28.400
it's laughable how they they cover it
up. But it's it's like you said,

804
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:32.960
the indoctrination is so deep. It's
it's so hard to get people to

805
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:36.400
to wake up. And you know, do you think, do you think

806
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:39.880
fluoride has a has a a part
to play in all this one hundred percent,

807
00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:44.559
one hundred percent. And if you
actually take the time to do the

808
00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:52.800
research of look what is when they
what is a derivative oil? Petroleum and

809
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:57.920
they use that for many of the
things we use plastic it's carcinogenic, right,

810
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:00.519
that that is a waste that they
used to make our stuff. What

811
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:09.320
about so aluminum fluoride comes from aluminum
waste and they take the waste instead of

812
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.440
having to spend the money to get
rid of it, they put it in

813
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:15.719
our you know, containers, they
put it in our water. And I

814
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:23.239
did an episode several years ago which
basically entwined Edward Burneese who was the master

815
01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:29.960
of the psyop in psychology and fluoride, and of course they were. He

816
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:34.920
was behind the torches of freedom on
Easter Sunday back in the twenties. All

817
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:37.840
these women jumped into the parade and
lit up their cigarettes. That was part

818
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:45.440
of the big women's liberation movement.
But he was also responsible for getting people

819
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:51.559
to believe that, you know,
putting this toxic and it is toxic matter

820
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:57.800
into water, that it's going to
make your teeth better and it. I

821
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:01.639
do believe that maybe califying your penni
or gland has something to do with it.

822
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:07.880
There are resorts that Goebbels used it
back, you know, eighty years

823
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:13.320
ago in Germany. It is quite
a rabbit hole, and I do think

824
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:17.840
that it does make it doesn't completely
zamplify people, but maybe it makes them

825
01:01:17.960 --> 01:01:23.920
open to this this magic trick that
they're doing to us. Yeah, yeah,

826
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:29.440
for sure. And you know,
when we're born and we go to

827
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:34.679
school, going the information we're getting
in terms of education is coming from people

828
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:37.880
who want to screw us over.
So you know, we're kind of left

829
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:42.039
in the dark to kind of figure
this out ourselves. And every single day

830
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.719
I'm doing my best when I get
time to find out as much information.

831
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:50.599
What's going to hurt me, what's
going to benefit me? And I know,

832
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:52.480
for sure, you can't go wrong
with raw food, you know,

833
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:58.960
fruits, vegetables, you know,
you can't go wrong with that. But

834
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:04.960
a lot of people, especially in
the UK, depend on the water that

835
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.880
they get from the tap and they
a lot of people here drink it.

836
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:13.199
It's very very common and you're almost
kind of looked down upon if you don't

837
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:15.960
drink tap water. Here. It's
it's really weird. I remember saying to

838
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:20.679
someone like, is that tap water? And they were like yeah, and

839
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:22.760
I was like, yeah, I'm
not going to drink that. They kind

840
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:25.599
of gave me this look like like
I think I'm better than them, But

841
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:29.920
of course it's not that. I
just don't want to poison myself. That's

842
01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:34.039
it. You know. Yeah,
you'll get that response, and you also

843
01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:39.519
get up. Did you learn that
from a YouTube video? Exactly? And

844
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:43.960
by the way, I should say
that petroleum isn't a waste product. It's

845
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:50.119
a byproduct, but from aluminium.
Did you say or aluminum or no?

846
01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:52.760
That was from the oil, the
crude oil, but the other one was

847
01:02:52.800 --> 01:03:00.440
the fluoride that is a byproduct or
waste product of the the aluminum alcohol.

848
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:05.480
Cook We cook a lot of stuff
in aluminium in the foil. Yeah,

849
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:08.360
pretty much everybody uses that to cook
with. Yeah. Yeah, and how

850
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:13.519
CoA back in one hundred years ago
they were paying an arm and a leg

851
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:16.840
to get rid of the waist,
and uh, why spend money when we

852
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:21.920
can put it in the water.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly,

853
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:24.719
And it almost makes me think,
like I tried to buy bottled water,

854
01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:30.079
but it's so difficult to get bold
water that's like not in a plastic container

855
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:35.320
or plastic bottle, and the ones
that do come in glass bowls, they

856
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:38.840
make them super super expensive, so
only the the elites and the people who

857
01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:45.320
are on that side can afford it. So it's just it's it's it's unbelievable,

858
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:47.119
and we've got a cost of living
crisis over here in the UK.

859
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:52.039
I think they did say today they're
going to manage to reduce it by two

860
01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:57.880
hundred pounds a year, which which
really isn't going to make much difference.

861
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:03.920
So it's it's incredible how they just
continuously make it more and more difficult every

862
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:08.760
year, and they give you these
things called phones where you can get instant

863
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:12.800
dopamine. Yep. You know all
the entertainments run by them. They controlled

864
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.239
all the entertainment and they use that
to push their proper ganda. So for

865
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:19.519
people like me and you, George, it's very very difficult of course to

866
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:24.760
actually get people even a little bit
interested in this, let alone wake them

867
01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:27.920
up completely. So you know you're
doing a good job. Man. I

868
01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:30.719
respect you a lot. I appreciate
that, brother, and you've made so

869
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:36.639
many astudent observations during this conversation,
you know, from a twenty four year

870
01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:40.800
old young man like yourself. That's
that's quite amazing. By the way,

871
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:45.679
we always when we talk about flat
earth and how they compare it to anti

872
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:50.519
vaxers, et cetera. If you
actually go to Wikipedia where it talks about

873
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:59.079
water flooridation, the second paragraph in
it talks about that people who question a

874
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:05.159
water flooridation are the equivalent to vaccinations
and things of that nature. So again,

875
01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:09.480
oh yeah, yeah, if you're
a flat earther, you're probably anti

876
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:13.519
vax and you question, how dare
you question fluoride? You know, there's

877
01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:16.079
people around the world who would just
die to have fluoride in their water to

878
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.880
help with their teeth. Yeah,
it's funny. They always come up with

879
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:24.079
a label. They always have,
like you're a flat arth or an anti

880
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:29.480
vaxa or conspiracy theorist. They they
love these labels. And the one that's

881
01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:33.679
getting pushed right now, I believe
it's like anti Semitic. We had one

882
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:39.480
of the people in one of the
political parties, not that I trust any

883
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:44.599
of the political parties, but they
were removed recently for saying that they are

884
01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:48.119
against genocide, and you know,
apparently that you can be labeled as anti

885
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:53.760
Semitic by just saying you don't support
genocide. In today's world, it's crazy.

886
01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:59.599
Yeah, we do certainly live in
a bizarre world. It's man yeah,

887
01:05:59.719 --> 01:06:02.639
sane for sure. And it's almost
like being The way I'm trying to

888
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:09.000
explain it to people is that it's
almost like being born on a ship and

889
01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:14.960
not knowing where you came from and
not knowing where you're heading, and everybody

890
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:18.320
on the ship kind of just telling
you lies, which is essentially what we

891
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:23.599
have. We're in a world where
it doesn't seem like they're all lying,

892
01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:27.280
but they actually are when you look
into it. But I do feel like

893
01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:31.639
it's becoming more and more easy to
sort of, you know, show them

894
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:34.920
how fake some some things are.
And you know, like you said,

895
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:39.440
you start with the moon landing,
maybe work your way up to nine eleven,

896
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:43.519
and then things like COVID COVID,
like I mean, there's so much

897
01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:47.840
bullshit and COVID. I actually got
fooled by that completely. I'm double jabbed,

898
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:55.199
sadly, But luckily my dad has
friends and things like that who didn't

899
01:06:55.199 --> 01:06:59.239
get the jab So you know,
I'm just fingers crossed. They didn't put

900
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:03.239
anything too harmful. I know it's
probably harmful, but hopefully I'll still be

901
01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:08.960
here in a few years time,
for sure, for sure. Always,

902
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:12.280
yeah, you know, it was
evil, it was. It was so

903
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.159
many layers to that as well,
all of these sigh ups they put on

904
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:18.960
us. They have so many desired
outcomes, so many and that of course

905
01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:21.960
was one of them. They took
away our speech, they took away our

906
01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:27.760
churches, right, they shut down
the churches, and they imposed medical tyranny

907
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:31.039
on us. And of course,
if you don't have, you know,

908
01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:34.400
physical autonomy, we have nothing,
you know. And and many of the

909
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:39.480
things they actually did went completely against
the Normbo code. If you read the

910
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:44.199
very first rule in the Normbo Code. I've tried that again, Nurremberg code.

911
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:48.400
It's very specific about coercion, and
boy were we coerced by the way.

912
01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:53.679
Not to beat a dead horse.
But going back to the fluoride rabbit

913
01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:59.599
hole is very deep. Yeah,
for sure. If you study the the

914
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:04.159
cun trees that are that use fluoridated
water, most of them have the highest

915
01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:10.039
cancer rates in the world. There
you go. And another thing I'll add

916
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:15.039
as well. More people die in
hospitals and outside of hospitals. Yeah,

917
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:20.560
which is pretty pretty mind blowing.
It's I always say to people because since

918
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:24.720
I started doing that whole wim Hoff
breathing, I kind of came to the

919
01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:28.319
conclusion that I can sort of tap
into the placebo effects, you know,

920
01:08:28.439 --> 01:08:31.159
the whole idea that if my body
thinks this is going to I'll be fine,

921
01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:34.680
and I will be fine. So
I just constantly keep thinking that,

922
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:40.039
and it seems to be working.
I don't get ill. I'm always feeling

923
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:44.680
great. I'm always you know,
very active. And for me, it's

924
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:47.039
it almost goes back to my childhood
when I pretend to be ill, you

925
01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:49.359
know, when you pretend to be
ill so you get out of school,

926
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:54.920
and I'd actually end up becoming ill. So it's almost like I made that

927
01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:59.119
happen myself. And I feel like
people don't pay enough attention to the fact

928
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:04.079
that, you know, positive thoughts
can create positive outcomes. And that's interesting.

929
01:09:04.119 --> 01:09:06.600
You mentioned that. That remind me. Have you ever seen the Rice

930
01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:11.840
experiment with emotions where they have rice
in two different jars? George, I

931
01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:14.119
never believe this, but I've actually
got this down in my notes. My

932
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:18.399
brother wanted me to ask you about
that. There you go, that's crazy.

933
01:09:18.800 --> 01:09:23.039
So for those who go the nice
experiment, we're planning on doing that

934
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:28.760
soon. I haven't had time recently, but we're gonna start that this weekend

935
01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:32.279
and I'll email you my results.
Yeah, please do. I'll be sure

936
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:35.920
to report them to the audience.
For those who may not be aware,

937
01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:42.840
there was an experiment many other people
have conducted it online where you have rice

938
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:45.720
and two different jars. One the
guy would pick up the jar and be

939
01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:48.640
rate it and yell at it every
day, and the other one he would

940
01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:55.600
talk kind to it and give it
love. And basically the jar of rice

941
01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:59.760
he would yell at would die exponentially
quicker than the other jar. Right,

942
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:04.920
yeah, exactly, and it works. It seems to work with water as

943
01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:08.640
well. I know people have done
it with water, and they've said like

944
01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:15.279
nice things to the water, like
words like peace and like religion and God,

945
01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:19.399
and it would form really beautiful crystals, almost like they look like perfect

946
01:10:19.479 --> 01:10:24.439
snowflakes, like perfect geometry. I
mean, if you need any more proof

947
01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:28.439
that there is a creator, just
just do the rice experiment. I think

948
01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:31.359
it will really because a lot of
people are very bitter, very horrible.

949
01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:35.359
They don't speak very nicely to each
other. And you know, words are

950
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:42.399
powerful, man, They can literally
manipulate reality, you know, one hundred

951
01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:45.600
percent. I look forward to your
results. That's something. It's one of

952
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:46.880
the many things that I really want
to do. I need to get it

953
01:10:46.920 --> 01:10:50.880
on my list. And because it's
something easy enough anybody can do. For

954
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:55.199
sure, we are starting to wash
on on time. Is there any other

955
01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:59.920
things that you wanted to cover before
we say goodbye? Yeah, just too

956
01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:04.800
experiments that people can do at home. Sure. The first one being when

957
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:09.279
the moon is out and they're not
covering it with the clouds or anything like

958
01:11:09.319 --> 01:11:13.560
that. Take two glasses of water, leave one in the moonlight, leave

959
01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:16.720
one in the shade, and you
will see when you measure the temperature of

960
01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:19.760
them. If you leave them out
there for like twenty minutes, you'll see

961
01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:24.279
that the one in the light is
colder than the one in the shade.

962
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:29.520
And anybody who can do that at
home, and it's very very easy.

963
01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:32.239
But I'm sure you know all about
the fact that you know the moon's light

964
01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:36.079
is not coming from the sun one
hundred percent, and that's important, which

965
01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:42.000
is another thing is interesting. If
the moon is so bright when we get

966
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:45.960
these pictures back from these rovers on
the moon. Why does it look like

967
01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:50.119
just this dark dust bowl? Yeah, yeah, exactly, No, it

968
01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:57.399
is funny sense. And my last
and final point, I've already made this

969
01:11:57.479 --> 01:12:00.319
point, but I just won't really
want to reiterate it for any of the

970
01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:02.680
listeners. Please, if you haven't
come on, and you're you don't,

971
01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:04.840
you don't really want to come on, and you don't want to talk,

972
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:09.159
please do it, because I think
it is the best way to wake people

973
01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:13.399
up. I know all of my
friends and my family members who don't believe

974
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:15.640
in the flat Earth would never listen
to this unless I'm on it. They

975
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:19.760
all said they're going to tune in, so hopefully now they're interested in Hopefully

976
01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:25.960
this conversation has helped in their awakening. I'm sure it has, and I

977
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:29.399
hope. You know what's really cool
is over the last you know, one

978
01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:33.960
hundred and some episodes, we've really
had folks from different countries, different continents,

979
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:39.119
different states, men, women,
you know, older folks, younger

980
01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:44.319
folks, and it's really great to
see everybody come together with this bond because

981
01:12:44.399 --> 01:12:46.159
I think the one thing we all
have in common is we don't have a

982
01:12:46.159 --> 01:12:48.680
whole lot of people. We can
sit down with and have these type of

983
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:53.399
conversations locally, so you know,
to me, I feel spoiled because I

984
01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:57.479
get to have this conversation a couple
times a week with people. But I

985
01:12:57.520 --> 01:13:01.279
hope you know this. This provides
some type of outreach and Arvin has provided

986
01:13:01.279 --> 01:13:03.840
his email which will be in the
show notes. So if you want to

987
01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:06.920
reach out to him, maybe you're
over in the UK and you want to

988
01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:12.279
say hi, buy him a pint, you can go into the show notes

989
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:16.039
and send Arvin an email and say
hello. It's It's been an absolute pleasure

990
01:13:16.079 --> 01:13:19.520
having you, and I will leave
you the last word, sir, thank

991
01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:24.119
you so much for having me,
George, and thank you everyone for listening.

992
01:13:24.119 --> 01:13:26.840
Shout out to my dad and shout
out to my friend Clova, the

993
01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:30.479
only two flat earthers I know.
There you go, shout out and again

994
01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:33.319
thanks again for joining us, and
to everyone, thank you for your continued

995
01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:38.039
support. I hope you have a
great week. Don't forget the email the

996
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:42.600
flat Earth Files at gmail dot com. Check out the website the Flatterthfiles dot

997
01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:45.760
com for Arvin. I am George, God bless everyone. Have a great

998
01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:49.079
week, and until the next time
we meet. My friends, we will

999
01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:57.800
see you. I know it's been
a struggle. I don't know if you've

1000
01:13:57.880 --> 01:14:08.880
had. I'm gonna feel tired,
hell down by all the way. Yeah,

1001
01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:16.520
I don't you feel the more you
smile ain't the same. I saw

1002
01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:27.000
you wall go from you. I
feel like you've lost your way. Don't

1003
01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:31.039
give it, No, don't give
it, and never is home. Don't

1004
01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:36.439
let call the primise. It ain't
done yet. He's got up, glad.

1005
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:46.039
Why it's a way down? Got
up? Let me come why away?

1006
01:14:47.039 --> 01:15:00.119
God, m call, I can
see the straight beside you. Child's

1007
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:06.119
are putting up the five. Oh, you're stronger than a thing. You

1008
01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:14.880
are. Yeah, you're gonna be
all right. You're accepting a dead found

1009
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:24.920
beautiful. You're shoving ride. Yeah, you're living, breathing, move you

1010
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:32.119
can hold your head a pie.
Don't give up. No, don't give

1011
01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:38.880
in. You never lose home.
Don't let go on the primise. It

1012
01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:45.399
ain't done Yet's God, I plant
WA's some way down the god of me,

1013
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:50.279
because don't give up. No,
don't give in. You never live

1014
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:56.720
home. Don't let go on the
primies. It ain't unlife. It's worth

1015
01:15:56.840 --> 01:16:08.399
lit man. What's a way town? Got up? Why spray down God

1016
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:19.840
steaming, Oh yeah, what's the
pray down the God baby call? Oh

1017
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:39.520
yeah, gotta don't give up,
No, don't give in? Never sol

1018
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:45.399
do they go off? The primis
in and dumb yeas got up playing?

1019
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:55.159
Why do kind of evy colts don't
give no dog giving what? Never the

1020
01:16:55.359 --> 01:17:00.199
hold? Don't they got the crimes? It ain't done? Is both living?

1021
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:13.680
What's God? God of air comes
all, the God of needs?

1022
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:35.279
Why, God of you're listening to
the Fact Hunter Radio Network. Just the

1023
01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:35.840
facts, ma'am.