WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:19.480 Thank you for listening to Depictures Media Radio. Welcome to Policy and Rights, 2 00:00:21.079 --> 00:01:00.439 the show about the government, policy and human rights. All right, welcome 3 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:06.079 back to Policy and Rights. Here in Depictions media radio and violence is not 4 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:11.239 the answer. Let's just leave it at that. And I'm gonna I'm going 5 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:17.319 to go that way with this whole thing. That we heard reports about a 6 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:23.560 Zeke leader who is assassinated in India, and that Justin Trudeau is accusing the 7 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:29.359 Indian government of putting ages in a place in order to find this man to 8 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:42.239 death. In the next couple of segments, we're gonna hear what a voice 9 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:55.239 from Anita Ann as she is her parents, as she will say, is 10 00:01:55.319 --> 00:02:00.359 from India, and that a lot of South Asians are a kind of have 11 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:13.159 mixed feelings and are upset about the accusations and what is going on with this 12 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:24.080 uh with with this assassination and where Justin Trudeau is finding this information from Where 13 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:34.599 did ceases get this information that the Indian government would have sought out to kill 14 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:46.560 a Zeke leader, hard Deep Singh nir Jar. So there is an investigation 15 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:55.560 going forward to bring the right people to justice as well. When a man's 16 00:02:55.639 --> 00:03:02.199 life is taken unjustly. There should be an investigation, There should be and 17 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:07.759 outcry the people to say, hey, what's going on, why, why 18 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:19.879 did this happen. So we're also going to hear from the Muslim community and 19 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:25.719 the Ze community as they band together to as an outcry that hey, this 20 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:30.560 person was killed unjustly. Let's get to the bottom of it. Let's find 21 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:43.599 justice and figure out what really happened. Not to simply make flagrant allegations without 22 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:51.080 proof and not really accusing Justin Trudeau of fragrant allegations, but if he holds 23 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:57.800 a body of truth, he needs to be transparent with it. And other 24 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:05.840 statements that we're not going to actually air on this podcast, mister Polier has 25 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:14.039 asked Justin Trudeau to come forward in a very transparent way, come forward with 26 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:20.000 the information that he has, not keep it hidden behind doors, because people 27 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:29.399 need to know what actually happened. That he's making allegations that the Indian government 28 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:35.439 could be behind this, and if the Indian government is behind this, there 29 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:43.680 are others who are like her Deep Singh, the jar that need to be 30 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:49.399 protected and what's the plan to do that? Also, So why don't we 31 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:55.600 listen to Anita and non. We're going to start with her first, and 32 00:04:55.639 --> 00:05:00.839 then in another segment afterwards, you will actually hear from the zeke In Muslim 33 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:13.959 government as oh, I'm sorry, zeke In Muslim leaderships from different organizations as 34 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:19.600 they speak out in front of the press about what they expect from the Canadian 35 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:30.079 government and the justice Canadian justice system to find what really happened to our Deep 36 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:55.160 Singh the jar R City, divisive poor family Dandie poor lejon Kivan, the 37 00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:11.560 se Vienne dand a Magnel No Seven sacit In torn vc por Tulmont, nampart 38 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:28.279 Relegion Latin City, don't set moment ontar camp round town dficil on dui per 39 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:40.560 matra la le processus, the continue the processus legal as andoi avoir limpathy for 40 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:50.199 tu La mont Kivian to set region Dumont parks and the seven seton Cillier Magneldon 41 00:06:50.439 --> 00:07:06.399 Labner Jaspar to lemont Etre calm unify pars sasit in. Though yesterday it was 42 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:15.199 a very difficult time to hear the Prime Minister make the remarks that he did, 43 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:21.600 especially for families who come from India. I'm thinking about my parents for 44 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:30.279 example, and I will say that I think that that sentiment is shared by 45 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:36.600 South Asians and families who come from India regardless of religion. And I would 46 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:41.240 just say that this is a time where we have to do two things. 47 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:48.160 One, let the legal process continue as it must and be prudent in that 48 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:55.360 respect my government can I just finish. And the second thing that we have 49 00:07:55.519 --> 00:08:01.519 to do is that we need to be empathetic because this is a time that 50 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.639 families who come from India, regardless of religion, are going to find it 51 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:13.240 difficult. And so I would just ask us to be empathetic and unified at 52 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:18.120 the same time, and I appeal for calm. Last year there was a 53 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.600 policy on Endo Indo Pacific policy. It was a way of you know, 54 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.120 getting away from China. In light of all this, in light of what 55 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:31.879 India is saying about Canada being too soft on quote unquote sick terrorism, are 56 00:08:31.960 --> 00:08:39.399 we going too fast and trying to build some relationship with from you? You 57 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:46.039 will recall that our Indo Pacific strategy is prudent and is particularly targeted at areas 58 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:52.440 where we have a contribution to make from a geostrategic standpoint, building people to 59 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:58.559 people ties in the region. Adding a third frigate from a defense perspective, 60 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:05.720 and so I know that Minister Juolie is continuing to pursue the Indo Pacific strategy 61 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:16.320 and it remains Implosania. What are yourself in the Prime Minister's announcement yesterday, 62 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:22.320 Well, first and foremost arts go out to Hardeep's family and our main focus 63 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:26.639 and making sure that the family guess the justice that deserve and from me, 64 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:31.320 yesterday's the message. I hope they'll also sends the race message of confidence and 65 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.519 a strong message to all the communities who are potentially impacted by foreign interference that 66 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.679 their government not only takes foreign interference extremely seriously. But this is something we've 67 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.320 been on for a very long time. Some things you can talk about in 68 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:45.879 public and some things that you can, but this is something that we will 69 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:54.639 always as Canadians protect ourselves. People in your community that will not be surprised 70 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:56.720 by the why didn't you? Some of them will be scared. Mister da 71 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:03.399 Jar was notified by c CYST that he was a target, yet Canada was 72 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:05.720 not able to protect him. What do you have to say to the member 73 00:10:05.759 --> 00:10:09.919 of your community right now? At our works The first and foremost to the 74 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.840 community and also as a member of our community, we grew up with a 75 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.519 lot of these these concerns. It's one of the reasons why when we form 76 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:24.240 a government, we take these adding allegations very very seriously and making sure that 77 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:28.759 our security agency do the appropriate work in this case, and right now, 78 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:33.720 we're going to stay focused on making sure that the family gets suggested and also 79 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.360 making sure that the appropriate people get the appropriate information so that they can feel 80 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:43.679 safe in our country. And is also saying that there are officials elected officials 81 00:10:43.720 --> 00:10:48.000 in Canada that are promoting a separatist state of Kalistan. Are you one of 82 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:52.360 them? You know exactly. I have answered this question for a very long 83 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.600 time. I've served my country in the military, I've been a police officer, 84 00:10:56.799 --> 00:10:58.279 and you can just imagine the scrutiny that you end up going through. 85 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:03.320 And I think you guys can do your own maths on this when accusations are 86 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:09.759 made and then looking at what other nations may potentially do in trying to ruin 87 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:15.559 somebody's reputation just for the sake of trying to create a certain narrative. And 88 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.879 this is something that all Canadians need to be mindful of and something that our 89 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:22.879 community and some other communities have been very mindful of for a very long time. 90 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:28.080 And for us, I've been very clear not only who I am as 91 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.759 a person, at the same time, I also been very clear what my 92 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.639 attentions and our governments attentions of what we do around run the country. I 93 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:43.240 never supported always making sure that we my focus always been serving Canadians and UH 94 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:46.320 And hopefully this will send a very strong message to all others who are falsely 95 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:52.799 falsely accused constantly by this and making sure that others don't also promote and there's 96 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.559 been making those accusations for a very long time. And then if you go 97 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:58.240 back from the time that I got elected, even before when they used to 98 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:05.279 serve in the military, I think you could draw your own conclusions to this. 99 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:09.600 And more importantly, not just for the this is not just about the 100 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.919 Indian Coveniensi community. This is about all the communities making sure that in our 101 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.759 country we have you know, Canadians from all over the world. I have 102 00:12:16.960 --> 00:12:20.320 been privileged every single time when I was in the international portfolio, when I 103 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.080 went to go to somebody else's country and I said, you know what, 104 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.000 sir, or ma'am. We have your citizens, peace of your country in 105 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.240 Canada because we have candide from all over and because of this, we have 106 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:37.840 our democracy and the right to peacefully express our views regardless of this and the 107 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:41.879 key word being peaceful, and we will protect you. Do you feel secured? 108 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:43.519 Do you feel secure yourself? And in light of what happened, do 109 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:46.879 you feel secure? The one of the things is is I would say that 110 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:54.240 I've trust in our agencies, but I want to make sure that rather than 111 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.720 about me, I want to make sure that Canadians feel secure. And my 112 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:01.879 strong message to them is that all our agency are doing their utmost, not 113 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:05.039 just in the short term. We've been doing focused on this for a very 114 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.799 long time, to making sure that not only our security agency has the appropriate 115 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:13.600 resources, but also make sure that they are the appropriate information. A lot 116 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.039 of this work and I used to be a police officer or something you can't 117 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.080 share and we have to protect the integrity of the investigation right now, and 118 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.080 also our intelligence work as well. We have to protect our sources and making 119 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.799 sure that they work appropriately. But one thing that Canadians can be very proud 120 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:30.600 of and I am, is that we have the right people the right agency, 121 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:33.320 the right tools to be able to do this work. It is very 122 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:37.480 sensitive work, but this is just another example how we es Canadians will come 123 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.960 together to making sure that people are future of our relations with the future of 124 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:46.080 our relations within Where does he go from now? You know I am right 125 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:52.480 number. We're focused on hopeful that the Indian government cooperates with the with the 126 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:56.559 investigation. When it comes to all the other relationships that we have, we 127 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:01.879 you know we will afford to continue you in as normal when it come to 128 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.279 first and foremost right now. First and foremost first and foremost right now is 129 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.440 one. We want to make sure that we protect the integrity and the investigation 130 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:13.480 and that the her Deep family get the justice that they deserves. Thank you. 131 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:26.080 At the local Requibo can adapt or select machine general service announced on a 132 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:35.240 poetic capablic potential. You can think Poma compass is also serus Canna exprement found 133 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:54.519 the shows on the compounds amount but for walk to the bar compound us a 134 00:14:54.559 --> 00:15:03.639 pop that you need that the city villa dance to this station consta commercive it 135 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:33.480 maybe son zetto costar Zel special propotion for Soubex confect mouse what tax measures could 136 00:15:33.480 --> 00:15:37.919 the government bring in that will ensure prices don't trickle down to uh to to 137 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:41.519 shop. I would say everything is on the table. But yesterday was a 138 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:46.480 step in the right direction. We summoned the executives to Ottawa, the King. 139 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.080 I think it was the first in Canada, that's when I'm told. 140 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:54.720 And secondly, what matters is that they committed not only to the government of 141 00:15:54.759 --> 00:16:00.159 Canada, but the Canadians were watching, to bring meaningful action by Thanksgiving to 142 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:03.519 stabilize price in Canada. So you know, this is step one. There's 143 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:04.720 a lot of work, you know, no one pretends it's easy. I 144 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:10.039 was in touch with my counterparts in Europe this morning. We're gonna look at 145 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:12.279 what we can do because we know that this is the first step. The 146 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:18.559 second step is to go after the large manufacturer and that maybe we need international 147 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.639 cooperation, you know. So we're going to be talking to our UK friends, 148 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:26.120 We're in touch with our French colleagues, and you know, we're resolving 149 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:30.559 and pushing the envelope together. The point is that Canadians asked me to fight 150 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:45.559 for them. I'm bringing the fight. But by la premier response, the 151 00:16:45.639 --> 00:17:03.440 two La Sante security spans is with power. The law La Premiere Priority lack 152 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:15.440 community Seco Canada must pass a totally community Canada Pascal Canada celestabilities previous abilities as 153 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:23.359 parque community love or to security. 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Instead, I asked them very specifically to come 165 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:30.480 up with plans by Thanksgiving to take meaningful action to stabilize price in Canada. 166 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:33.039 Now that how they're going to do it, you want to allow competition for 167 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:37.279 that because you know what, it's not just about the Government of Canada telling 168 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:41.000 them we want you to be part of the solution. But there's millions of 169 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:45.079 customers. So what I want is that now we'll let competition because they have 170 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.880 to compete for customers. None that the goal has been said, the timeline 171 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:52.160 is clear. Now it's for them to compete amongst each other. These people 172 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:53.359 compete. You should have seen in the meeting. They all look at each 173 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:56.039 other and say, okay, if one is doing that, the other one 174 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:00.119 may try to to do more. And that's what we want because fundamentally, 175 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.400 what we want, like I said, it is to stabilize price. And 176 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.920 now they're going to be I think, very creative and trying to see how 177 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:14.079 they can achieve that. But we want to let competition go because I'm after 178 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:18.240 the manufacturers, what do you need, Well, we'll have a similar meeting 179 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:22.000 that we had and I'm looking also, what's being done, particularly in France. 180 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:25.240 I'm going to talk to my UK counterparts. I think you see a 181 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:30.160 movement not only in Canada but in Europe to see that also. These large 182 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:34.559 manufacturers have to account and have to be part of the solution. So we're 183 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:38.519 going to be pushing them as well. And like I said, we're going 184 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:44.359 to do that domestically, but I don't exclude to have cooperation with my callings 185 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:59.880 and we have discussion as much and our suston say star posts. You know 186 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:08.799 that buns, call le Sounds and bunch shows be full fair pluse save them 187 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.759 the accelerator funding. Well, I can't spoil what's going to come next. 188 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.359 I was very very encouraged though by the vote that took place at City Council. 189 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:23.720 I was obviously particularly interested in the file given some of the work that 190 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:27.400 we're doing around the Housing Accelerator Fund. But I think it's safe to say 191 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:30.559 that this is precisely the kind of change that we're trying to motivate with the 192 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:34.240 Housing Accelerator Fund. I was very happy that the mayor was able to use 193 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:37.680 the letter that we'd sent to help bring counsel along. If people want to 194 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:41.279 tap in to the Housing Accelerator Fund, which is designed to change the way 195 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:44.759 that cities build homes. Then they got to change the way that they're going 196 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.599 to build homes. Calgary has certainly took that box. I look forward to 197 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:51.039 make sure I have a chance to discuss next steps with the mayor before I 198 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:53.759 broadcast anything today. Now is changing? Are you going to say more today? 199 00:21:55.519 --> 00:22:00.359 Not today? But I expect we will be able to share more tradition 200 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.119 future. There was changing a density zarning Is that going to be like a 201 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.400 key figure that the government is looking for in these plans? Absolutely, building 202 00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:11.519 more dense cities that are livable for their residents is going to be a huge 203 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:15.440 part of the path forward. The exact solution on a city by city basis 204 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:22.359 could vary given what's appropriate for one community based on factors ranging from a geography, 205 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:25.880 from access to municipal services, the capacity of water and sewer systems. 206 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:27.839 I don't want to be dogmatic that there has to be a single rule for 207 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:34.039 every single community, but certainly increasing densification and building homes near the services that 208 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.680 people rely upon, it's going to be a key part of the path forward 209 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:41.000 and the CMHC to I haven't really said too too much on exactly when the 210 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:42.640 money is going to start rolling out beyond it would start by the end of 211 00:22:42.640 --> 00:22:47.440 the year. When do you hope to have these deals finalized as soon as 212 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:52.160 possible. So we'll obviously be aware that we've reached an agreement with the City 213 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:55.839 of London. I anticipate there will be many more to drop up over the 214 00:22:55.920 --> 00:23:00.680 course of the fall. The one piece that I would caution Quran is we're 215 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.279 not going to assign any deal. We're going to make sure that we're agreeing 216 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:07.559 with communities that have good plans will build more homes. The goal is not 217 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:10.240 to get money out the door. The goal is to build more homes and 218 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:12.000 cities across this country and that's what the Housing Accelerator Fund is going to do. 219 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:21.680 What would you say to the Indian well Canadian in your community, the 220 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:29.559 community and are scared with what you learned? Look, I obviously have a 221 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:33.559 huge affinity for the South Asian and Indo Canadian community in this country, giving 222 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:38.599 the importance of the diaspora community to Canada's social and economic well being. This 223 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:42.279 has been a tough couple of days. I've been engaged with some of my 224 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:48.400 colleagues, not only who come from the community, but who represent large populations 225 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:52.480 from from India within their communities, and they're having a hard time. When 226 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:57.119 you see the challenges associated with political divisions religious divisions on other parts of the 227 00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:00.240 world playing out in our own country, it puts a lot of pressure on 228 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:06.000 communities and there's a lot of people experiencing pain that we want to demonstrate that 229 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:14.400 we are standing alongside them. But obviously the interference and in the manner of 230 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:21.000 extra judicial killings on Canadian soil Canadian citizen is completely unacceptable. Regardless of your 231 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:23.440 religion, regardless of which community you come from. I think we can find 232 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:27.920 common ground that it's entirely unacceptable to be engaged in that kind of behavior. 233 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:30.559 We will work to get to the bottom of this, but in the meantime, 234 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:33.759 I hope Canadians, regardless of which community they come from, we're able 235 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:38.279 to stand alongside one another during this extremely challenging time accelerators. So there was 236 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:42.759 an announcement in London. Was that the first and only city that got on 237 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:47.319 agreement? Or are there others? It was the first? There will be 238 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:49.920 more. There will be more this fall. I have spent much of my 239 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:56.279 time since that announcement advancing the applications of other cities who are very close to 240 00:24:56.400 --> 00:25:00.599 approvals. Some will require a little bit more before they're ready to receive funding 241 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:04.119 through the Housing Accelerator Fund. Others are more or less ready to go. 242 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:07.759 Sorry, you look like you wanted to follow up there coming next year. 243 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.839 I just wanted to know is there any mechanism that that will make sure that 244 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:15.160 the results aren't there? So you're giving it, giving the money upfront, 245 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:19.440 are putting on the condition that they change some zoning rules, et cetera. 246 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:23.400 But what if one year or two years from now there is no increase in 247 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:27.200 in building. Is there a way to you know, get back the money 248 00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:32.440 or some sets So the money will will flow over a period of a couple 249 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:34.880 of years as more homes are built. We're going to insist that the cities 250 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:38.359 report back to us on the progress that they've made. But the indications that 251 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:42.039 we have is that the and the assessments we're making as a result of our 252 00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:48.000 analysis on the applications is that we're only agreeing to release the funds to the 253 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:51.599 extent that we believe the measures that are actually being changed are going to lead 254 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:55.279 to that more home construction. So sorry, could you read what if they 255 00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:57.759 don't? Is there a call that world set well? Well, will will 256 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:03.039 be in control of the ability to release or not release the funding if somebody 257 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:07.599 does not perform the actions that form the basis of their application. We're not 258 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.720 going to cut checks and say oh, that's okay, you don't really have 259 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:12.920 to do it. We only wanted the announcement. Of course, that is 260 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:17.079 not going to be the path forward, So we're going to monitor the progress 261 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:21.240 of in terms of implementation and release funds. One of those monsocial what do 262 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.720 you have to have in the agreement is to change zoning rules or in check? 263 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.680 Right, there's no target in terms of the amount of units that need 264 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.839 to be built, So my question is what if there are no more units 265 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:36.160 being built, even if they did change the zoning. So there are targets 266 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:37.799 in terms of the number of units that would be built. In London in 267 00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:41.680 particular is a great example. They intend to add more than an additional two 268 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.839 thousand homes over and above what was already scheduled. So we will monitor that 269 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:52.839 and make sure that we're transferring funding in a concent but yeah, let's get 270 00:26:52.839 --> 00:27:00.119 it. Checking the visits from the point points the phone products. If you 271 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:06.920 send a villa for exam let's say sounds bake, you let the ex jacquin 272 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:18.599 vill or a CD or accele plush the sank song can on application, patoon 273 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:23.400 to pay. Okay, let's city the land, the only opportunity, the 274 00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:30.880 only they kills a man whose on this opportunity or approvated the plush application AA 275 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:38.559 April the moi dont lavan treu or alternate these. I don't think this has 276 00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:42.079 to take a long time, Okay, But the key part to me is 277 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:48.519 not administrative delays. It's the quality of applications we demand that will be producing 278 00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.000 more homes for Canadians. As long as we have good applications, We're talking 279 00:27:52.079 --> 00:28:04.720 weeks and months, not years. How are we to region agreement a house? 280 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:10.559 Those are are you? Look? I never want to pre judge the 281 00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:15.000 outcome of conversations, but I have been having conversations with Minister Duranto, and 282 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.039 our teams are also connected trying to work on finalizing things. The good news 283 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.519 is I, since we share priorities, we both want to see cities change 284 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:27.039 the way they build homes and build more homes, particularly affordable units. Homes 285 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:33.119 that people can actually afford. I don't want to presuppose that the government of 286 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:36.799 Quebec is going to be ready today or tomorrow, but we're going to work 287 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:38.759 with them more or less every day to get this done as quickly as possible. 288 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:41.640 I think we are close, but we have a little bit of work 289 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:48.119 to finalize. Yeah. Look, I I would certainly hope so. But 290 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:51.920 obviously we are one party to these conversations, and we want to make sure 291 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.799 that we respect Quebec's jurisdiction, particularly with M thirty preventing the ability for us 292 00:28:55.839 --> 00:29:00.759 to engage directly with municipalities. We want to reach an agreement with Quebec expeditiously. 293 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.440 This is not the housing decelerator Fund, it's the housing Accelerator Fund, 294 00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:08.240 and we're going to need to reach an agreement. Question proposal is more successful. 295 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.640 The or is more impactive than yours because he doesn't don't need to make 296 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.839 this individual agreements with into a howege you said it target. They need it, 297 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:15.519 they got the fundment that they don't. So what do you make of 298 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.640 this plane that he has a more effective appropos of this than you think he's 299 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.400 he's individual? Agree, Well, there's some self interest motivating his perspective. 300 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.359 He wants people to believe that his plan is more effective. But when you 301 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:29.400 actually look at the people who know the field, people who have studied this 302 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.799 entire careers, they're saying things like it demonstrates he doesn't understand the scale or 303 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:37.200 urgency of the housing crisis. With respect to mister Qualitie, of his plan 304 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.960 to divvy up one hundred million dollars nationwide is not going to have the same 305 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.400 impact as a four billion dollars fund, seventy four million of which went to 306 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.759 the City of London last week. This is peanuts in comparison to what we're 307 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:55.160 proposing. The other piece that I don't know how they missed this when you 308 00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:59.279 actually look at the model that he's chosen to move forward with and saying that 309 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:03.720 we're just going to based on whether you increase the stock he neglects to understand 310 00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.440 that some of the bottlenecks for communities require infrastructure investments from the federal government. 311 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:11.279 How can you expect a city to increase their rate of building by fifteen percent 312 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:15.680 if you're also going to deny them the support for water and sewer infrastructure that 313 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:19.119 they need to reach That goal. It looks like he's pulled a couple of 314 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:22.039 ideas that felt good at a meeting with people who don't work in the housing 315 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.559 sector. But realistically, our programs are informed by advice of people who know 316 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.160 what they're talking about. The early indications in London and Calgary, and there 317 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.000 will be more to come in the weeks ahead, are that we are actually 318 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.920 changing the way that cities build homes. We're not talking about doing in the 319 00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:42.880 future, it's happening now. You haven't figure secure figure. We want to 320 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.920 make sure that we're working with Quebeca, but remember that the housing its Yeah, 321 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:52.519 indulged me for thirty seconds to explain. The Housing Accelerator Fund is based 322 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.559 on a per unit cost and the exact figure depends upon how many units that 323 00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.599 will be built, whether they are affordable in certain other features, and it's 324 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:04.160 all mapped out, so we are completely open to having Quebec have the appropriate 325 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:08.079 share. We want to make sure that it results not just in a transfer 326 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.559 without more homes being built. That's not but do we actually reflect the amount. 327 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.000 The exact formula will depend on the homes that will be built. But 328 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:22.000 the good news is every indication I have from the Province of Quebec is they 329 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:23.400 want to build just as many homes as we do, and that's a great 330 00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:29.960 place to start negotiation. So guys, I have a cabinet meeting starting. 331 00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.039 I'll be here in a couple of hours on my way out if you need 332 00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:37.359 me more. Thanks. Parliamentary study of the bailable fool Pool care Ira bill 333 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.720 is fundamentally important to Canadians. Its mental importance of the parents and families right 334 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.240 around the country. But this is about treat attention. I'm insuring community safety. 335 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.839 And what we're doing with that bill is we tem that bill may obvious. 336 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:53.279 We had consent of all premiers on attorneys general around the country. We 337 00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:56.640 had the consent yesterday to proceed our new names concerning with all parties. But 338 00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.960 how can how can we don't think it need study? How can we don't 339 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.559 I think it needs to study. We're talking about potentially putting more people in 340 00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:06.240 pre trial attention, people who are legally innocent. Why doesn't that need more 341 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:10.319 study? Bail does not reverse the presumption of innocence. That's an important fact 342 00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:14.279 that you need to be clear about in terms de gouvernment of reading your articles. 343 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:16.759 First, one, yes, I know can usually legislation gets studied, 344 00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.599 especially when it has to do with people's charter rate. And it was skipped 345 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:24.920 yesterday out of I think political This is politically expedience, politically popular. So 346 00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:30.000 why did you agree on your eject the premise of that entirely the charter compliance 347 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.720 of that bill was verified by me and by my predecessor in advance. This 348 00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.359 bill complies with the Charter. This bill received input from pre years and attorneys 349 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.240 general around the country. We've got a lot of input on the front in 350 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:45.599 defense, lawyers, stakeholders. Why that is why everyone in in that chamber 351 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:50.839 yesterday decided to work in a non partisan basis to keep Canadians safe. That 352 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.599 is my fundamental job. I will not apologize for doing my fundamental job. 353 00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:58.119 But what about the chance of stakeholders, prisoners, advocates where its defense lawyers 354 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:12.799 believe our community right? Hello? Run. Prime Minister Justin Trudau's announcement yesterday 355 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:15.559 that agents of the government of India are suspected to have been involved in the 356 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:21.519 assassination of haddipzing Ninjer may have shocked many Canadians, but it was not a 357 00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:25.839 surprise to the sick community. For decades India has targeted six in Canada with 358 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:32.200 espionage, disformation, and now murder. Haddiepsing served as the president of one 359 00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:37.559 of the largest gordodas in Canada and was an outspoken supporter of Kaliston. He 360 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.720 often left peace for protests against the violation of human rights actively taking place in 361 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:47.559 India. Hardipsing Ninjer had publicly mentioned the threat to his life for months and 362 00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:53.279 said that he was targeted by intelligence agencies. SEESUS and local law enforcement agencies 363 00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:58.240 were aware of the threat to Nija as well as other sick activists in Canada, 364 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:04.279 and they had been alerted the danger from multiple sources. India cannot be 365 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:08.000 allowed to disregard the rule of law and the sovereignty of foreign states. The 366 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:13.639 killing of Hadipzig Ninja and other sick activists were terrorist sacks that must be condemned 367 00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:19.000 by the international community. India must honor its international obligations and cooperate with the 368 00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:23.360 government of Canada in investigating these matters. The World's Sake Organization of Canada calls 369 00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:30.280 for the following six measures. Canada must immediately identify and bring to justice those 370 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.679 individuals who are involved in the targeted killing of Hadip sing Naja. Second, 371 00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.239 immediate protection for six in Canada who face a threat from India and its agents. 372 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:44.800 Third, Canada must conduct a thorough and continuous review of all Indian diplomats 373 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:49.400 and officials in Canada and immediately remove those found to have been involved in interference 374 00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:54.079 and espionage in Canada. Fourth, Canada must ensure height and measures are introduced 375 00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:59.960 so that Indian nationals involved in that country's intelligence forces and in right human rights 376 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:05.880 abuses are not permitted to enter Canada. Fifth, Canada must immediately stop all 377 00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:12.239 intelligence sharing, including the Framework for Cooperation on Countering Terrorism and Violent Extremism with 378 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:16.800 India. And Lastly, the public Inquiry into foreign interference and federal electoral processes 379 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:22.360 and democratic institutions must examine India's role in foreign interference here in Canada. Thank 380 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:35.840 you, Montment. Good morning. My name is Steven Brown and I'm the 381 00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:39.920 CEO of the National Council of Canadian Muslims. I like to start by offering 382 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:45.519 my condolences to the family of Hardeep Singh Najar. He was a person beloved 383 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:54.159 to his family and his community and he will be missed. Dreaming pans and 384 00:35:54.280 --> 00:36:00.840 La Famide, the Hardeep Singh, Najar stin Pepson image sa Fami a sacramental 385 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:08.440 thing e ilvonnu monkey Now. Yesterday the Prime Minister informed Canadians that our government 386 00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:14.760 has reason to believe that on the evening of June eighteenth, a Canadian citizen 387 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.639 was assassinated by a foreign government right in front of a place of worship. 388 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:36.800 Ye Lami Canazierguzon de Chois coresual disd Arstoyen Canazier, the assassiny baru a se 389 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:49.119 de van ernucute in Sagi Junta Saint cressident Gonnazien point this is an unprecedented attack 390 00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:59.119 against Canadian sovereignty. Full stop rolling this together, because when a Canadian is 391 00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:05.000 attacked, when he or she has the audacity to speak about human rights and 392 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:09.599 justice, all of us are at risk. Now. Unfortunately, the revelations 393 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:15.880 yesterday were painful, but could not, for many in our communities, be 394 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:22.800 characterized as shocking. We, alongside virtually every other credible expert, had warned 395 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:29.000 that it was only a matter of time before the actions of the Indian government 396 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:36.400 reached Canadian shores. Our jointly published report with the Sick World or the Sick 397 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:42.440 Organization on the Dangers of the Restria swamyang Savik Sang or the RSS, the 398 00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:47.840 Indian far right parliamentary organization that a paramilitary organization that is found as ideological home 399 00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:55.400 in the Modi government, received national media attention. It also detailed the level 400 00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:06.679 of harassment already being faced by Canadian Muslim communities domestically, domestically, and unfortunately 401 00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:13.880 it did not result in significant action by the federal or provincial governments at the 402 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:32.320 time. So les becoming with a Musilman Canadienne he manosmon selena, You're nation 403 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:42.639 significative, the rapacio and while the idea that the Indian government is involved in 404 00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:50.599 such brazen acts of violence might shock many Canadians, for millions of six Muslims, 405 00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:55.559 Christians, Buddhists and other minorities in India, this type of violence and 406 00:38:55.840 --> 00:39:02.280 utter disregard for the rule of law is an everyday occurrence. Managerism, tragiment 407 00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:10.840 u sam plu d land da Gandhi. Sadly and tragically we are no longer 408 00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:19.800 in Gandhi's India. This is no longer the world's largest liberal democracy. Sinepleu 409 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:28.039 la pocaci liberlumand the Indian government has been taken over by a fire right extremist 410 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:34.559 paramilitary organization called the RSS. This type of impunity is not an anomaly, 411 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.440 it is by design sea concepcion. What we're talking about here, to be 412 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:45.559 clear, is a deliberate act of violence by a foreign government on Canadian soil 413 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:52.239 against one of our own citizens. This act of spate, state sponsor terrorism 414 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:59.280 must be met with the highest response, and so today we join the Sick 415 00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:04.519 community and our partners at the World Sick Organization of Canada in calling for action 416 00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:09.159 from the Government of Canada. At this moment, it is paramount that the 417 00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:16.119 killers of a fellow Canadian are brought to justice and protections must be put in 418 00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:23.840 place immediately to ensure the safety of all Canadians from all threats, both foreign 419 00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:31.760 and domestic. Along with the powerful calls for diplomatic consequences, an end to 420 00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:37.800 intelligence sharing, and a public inquiry my colleague just mentioned, we at NCCM 421 00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:45.960 are calling for four additional actions. One the immediate recalling of Canada's ambassador to 422 00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:55.559 India. Two, an initiation of the process of expulsion of the Indian ambassador 423 00:40:55.599 --> 00:41:04.400 to Canada, High Commissioner Shri Sanjay Kumar Verma, three, a formal freeze 424 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:09.960 on trade negotiations between India and Canada, including but not limited to the Comprehensive 425 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:17.599 Economic Partnership Agreement or SIPA, and four. Together with the WSO, we 426 00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:24.239 today call for the immediate banning of the RSS under the listing provisions in the 427 00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:37.159 Criminal Code and the removal of its agents from Canada. Of nance diplomatique public 428 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:49.360 lu don't arn't the Imidia Lambastard or canadi on Land un process dix SPC de 429 00:41:49.440 --> 00:42:02.679 Lambassador Canadas, Sri sanj Kumar Vermai Land Canada, econ PRIs La Economy lab 430 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:20.880 USIPA Ancle Labara, WSO luz Appeland imidias on vertu des called Ciminella. We 431 00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:28.880 must understand that this assassination of one of our fellow citizens on the streets of 432 00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:34.639 our country in broad daylight, in front of a place of worship, affects 433 00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:45.480 each and every one of us. During the no stoyang du the varlued cut 434 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:52.639 to shaker denu, it's the culpett in acceptab. This assassination was an attack 435 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:57.280 on all of us as Canadians. This is why we must take action and 436 00:42:57.360 --> 00:43:00.320 we must take action right now. Thank you very much. There. If 437 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:06.199 are you formally accusing the RSS of murdering sing n Jar, pardon are you 438 00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:13.199 only accusing the RSS of murdering mister singh Jar, not formally accusing the RSS 439 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:17.039 of murdering lists sing the Jar. But what we are saying is that and 440 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:21.280 you can see this in the report that was published can jointly with the WSO, 441 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.800 members of the Muslim community and the sick community and many other communities have 442 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:31.320 been complaining for years that they have been targeted by harassment and threats by individuals 443 00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:37.679 and associations affiliated with the RSS. And for years we've been talking to this 444 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.800 about about this topic to the Canadian government and nothing has been done, which 445 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:45.400 is why we are asking right now for the Canadian government to ban the RSS 446 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:50.719 from Canada and EXPALSE agents from the country. Is there fear right now for 447 00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:54.960 others who are sick or Muslim since there's a large Muslim but larger Musim minority 448 00:43:55.000 --> 00:44:00.719 ahould saying India of further violence or being targeted. Is there confidence that Canadian 449 00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:07.079 officials can keep those communities here in Canada safe. We believe that the Canadian 450 00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:13.079 government has the ability to keep all Canadian citizens safe. But yes, when 451 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:19.400 members of the community have been talking about being targeted and discriminated against and harassed, 452 00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:23.039 not in India but in Canada for years, and we can see in 453 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:29.400 Canada our Prime Minister getting up in the House of Commons and saying that there 454 00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.320 is evidence, credible evidence to suggest that the agent of a foreign country is 455 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:38.760 assassinating religious minorities in our country. They're killing Canadians in broad daylight in our 456 00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:45.760 country. It's absolutely unacceptable, it's absolutely acceptable, and anybody would be wise 457 00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:49.880 to be concerned about this, not just ethnic minorities, not just religious minorities. 458 00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:52.280 I mean in Canada, if you can't talk, if you cannot have 459 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:58.960 an opinion about another foreign government without having to worry about walking outside and worrying 460 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:00.119 is there going to be a foreign that's going to gun you down on the 461 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:04.840 streets. What's going on? So I have every confidence that the Canadian government 462 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:08.880 will take all measures necessary to protect Canadian citizens. Do you speak French, 463 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:22.440 I understand it, Okayama, so you can hear me. But let's say 464 00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:29.320 we are specifically asking for sick activists, those that are been identifies as having 465 00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:35.199 threats and there are a number of Canadian six that have been identified as having 466 00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.000 a threat to their life, and we were asking for the government of Canada 467 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:43.079 to provide protection for these six in Canada, those six approaching like is the 468 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.960 RC ANDP warned those six that there's a thread to them or is it the 469 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.760 other way around? Is it this the community asking Canadian law enforce them for 470 00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:52.760 protection. I think it goes both ways, and there have been a number 471 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:57.760 of cases where officials have warned them that there was a threat to their life. 472 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:24.400 Partner truly failed of remark and this rections governamentations in spons double lapros clamps 473 00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:35.639 then approach party sip aprosch partisan uh cirk uh sorchest even inquired milar reality sore 474 00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:45.559 le promunc m z stoake and agent. It's three par nag government Land are 475 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:54.039 spons on apple Tulli polytician appoons external serial in the passy that have awesome Canadian 476 00:46:54.920 --> 00:47:02.400 protection physic you see libert get you to expand on that In English? The 477 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:07.920 official opposition leader today suggest that the Prime Minister hasn't been transparent with all the 478 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.639 facts in this case. Do you think we need to hear more facts from 479 00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:15.079 the government or what do you make of play a statement. Well, I'm 480 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.760 interested in is making sure that this is that partisan politics states completely out of 481 00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.559 this, all right. This is a Canadian citizen, somebody with a Canadian 482 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:24.920 passport that was gunned down in broad daylight. So we need to make sure 483 00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:30.199 that all Canadian politicians are working together to one understand exactly how this happened, 484 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:34.440 but two and more importantly, make sure that this doesn't happen again, that 485 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.519 all Canadians are safe. People should not have to be worried about getting shot 486 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:44.599 when they're walking out of a place of worship in Canada. Mala coperraze evictlimed 487 00:47:45.079 --> 00:48:01.719 kiskisas villema constab poiso den monsieur tell moriger ink kwaiab k lady man, the 488 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:15.599 con Ave, the grander land avant Cony ivan Conai, can ainn Agians seeker 489 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:25.880 sponser see alge, the Grono Canaga responsibility, the SA security, the no, 490 00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:38.760 the don't don't protect the tul communities advice la appresso in f con security 491 00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:53.079 a k tu sir comms attack aner uh SOI appress, who's a car zaco 492 00:48:53.159 --> 00:49:06.320 economic avance? Who the m twenty of your organizations aware of anyone that's currently 493 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:12.800 in hiding because they don't feel the Canadian law enforcement agencies or government has their 494 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:19.400 backs when it comes to extra judicial attempts on their lives. Do we are 495 00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:27.039 aware of Canadian six that are under threat? They've been advised to make changes 496 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:31.639 to UH their pattern of living, whether it live, moving, or otherwise. 497 00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:36.000 So we are aware of threats to Canadian six at the moment. Yes, 498 00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:44.039 it's I don't have an exact number, but I can say that there 499 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:47.440 are a number. I mean, there's a there's So I don't have an 500 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:52.000 exact number on how many, how many effectives threats personally, I have not 501 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:57.239 done who's advising them? You said they've been advised to take precautions. It's 502 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.360 been a combination as an answer before. Whereas some of the community members have 503 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:06.320 advised local officials of threats against their lives, local officials have also advised some 504 00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:10.239 community members of some threats to their life as well. You both referenced the 505 00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:15.360 Public Inquiry into foreign interference. If you look at the terms of reference in 506 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:21.360 terms of protections for desperate communities, UH, there is you know, a 507 00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:28.079 term to look at protections for those communities in the context of democratic institutions being 508 00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.679 imperiled. Would you like to see that scope expanded to look at protections for 509 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:37.920 desperate communities more broadly outside of you know, election interference for reson It's a 510 00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.320 good question. Would I would tend with the news, with the news we 511 00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:44.960 just heard and announcement yesterday, I think it makes sense to add that to 512 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:52.039 the scope. Certainly, having a basic sense of security, I think is 513 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:57.400 a comment. It's a it's it's something we need to ensure in this country, 514 00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:01.119 and a foreign interference and foreign countries are affecting that. I think we 515 00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:06.159 need to look into that. What should Canada pursue as a relationship with India. 516 00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.840 We've heard the question about the trade agreement that now is in limbo. 517 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:15.840 You know, there's a huge diaspora communities from many different minorities within India and 518 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:20.800 also hindience as well. So what what is that the future of that relationship? 519 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.480 In your opinion, we believe Canada needs to stand by its values and 520 00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:29.159 not compromise on those, whether it's a streem of expression, protection for our 521 00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:34.880 minorities, and any relationship internationally needs to be needs to have a foundation of 522 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:52.039 our core Canadian values. It's almost zoo. We've seen our announcements come in 523 00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.360 from the United States, from Australia as well. We're hoping for all the 524 00:51:55.400 --> 00:52:04.920 Five Eyes provide supporting this. I expect that they'll see the threat that this 525 00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:09.000 sort of foreign interference can have on a country such as Canada and other other 526 00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:16.320 countries of similar values. I think it's important for these countries to really identify 527 00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:23.800 and recognize the threat that our countries have when we deal with nations that don't 528 00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:30.360 share similar values, that are open to foreign interference. You know, when 529 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:38.760 we spoke about stopping intelligence sharing and really for from this Canadian stick community's perspective, 530 00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:45.039 we are expressing this concern in twenty eighteen when that initial intelligence sharing agreement 531 00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.760 was announced. It's led to deaths in the past intelligence sharing in Canada for 532 00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:57.440 six and we are aware that this and this information is not used with with 533 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:04.400 with respect to protecting minorities, are protecting foreign integrity. Do you think Canada 534 00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:08.920 is stuck in a bit of a bind now with India because they have emphasized 535 00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:15.039 an alliance with them economically so much in order to check against growing influenced by 536 00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:23.239 China on the world stage. I'll say I don't in concept we are supportive 537 00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:30.079 of of seeking trade agreements. I think it's it's something that supports the economy 538 00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:32.840 and and by country should be seeking those. Well, we're not supportive of 539 00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:39.440 is trading lives for for trade agreements for economic growth and if we have to 540 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:45.599 trade, you know, a certain minority group to make such an agreement, 541 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.599 I think we would be against that too. Canadians understand perhaps about the history 542 00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:54.760 that between the India and the sick community that the greater context here that you're 543 00:53:54.840 --> 00:54:00.840 concerned about this announcement yesterday. I believe it's a tip of the iceberg. 544 00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:08.039 This is not the first time that somebody from India and Indias and Indian diplomat 545 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:13.000 has been kicked out of Canada for foreign interference on the Canadian stick community. 546 00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:17.559 And so there is a pattern here. The Canadian stick community has been speaking 547 00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:22.039 out about it for decades now. And for my part, you know, 548 00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:28.280 I really resonated with what Drick Meetsingh mentioned yesterday. You know, the younger 549 00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:32.639 generation that grew up in Canada, they grew up hearing stories about the persecution, 550 00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:36.360 about the fear of speaking out a little too much, and you might 551 00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:43.039 get on a list or be targeted. And so to see that happening right 552 00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:46.960 now in twenty twenty three in Canada, you know, it's certainly is shocking, 553 00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:53.199 and I hope the larger community sees that and understands how truly shocking this 554 00:54:53.400 --> 00:55:00.320 is to see a Canadian attacked on Canadian soil by a foreign country. I 555 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:06.840 think we can't understand how shocking that muses. All right, so we'll go 556 00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:08.920 to a question on zoom. We have one time for one last question, 557 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:16.760 So Palac you want the floor is yours? Hi? Can you hear me? 558 00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:22.559 Okay? Yes, Hi? Thanks. I think this question is probably 559 00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.559 best for mcphersing. I'd like to get your comments. Sorry, I'd like 560 00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:30.559 to get your reaction to the Prime Minister's comments today. He said that he 561 00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:35.719 made the decision to come public with intelligence because you wanted to speak with Canada's 562 00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:40.679 allies and have a quote solid grounding on what was happening, and assumably it 563 00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:45.440 was also to speak directly to Prime Minister Modi at the G twenty. At 564 00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:47.639 the same time, he is saying that Canadians do have a quote right to 565 00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:52.360 know about these kinds of threats. What do you make of these comments and 566 00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:59.639 should this information have been made public beforehand in your view, so certainly we're 567 00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:05.440 you know, I'll say we were happy to see that our Prime Minister Trudeau 568 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:10.559 spoke about this publicly. This is not a surprise or a something a secret 569 00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:17.400 that the Canadian sick community was not aware of. I'll reiterate what my colleague 570 00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:22.519 just mentioned. What I think is most important here and I think maybe one 571 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.360 of the objectives was is to not make the same part as an issue and 572 00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:31.400 bringing it collectively with the other parties. I think it sent a message not 573 00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:37.519 just in Canada but internationally that Canada does not tolerate these types of events and 574 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:45.840 actions on in our country and any any sort of upfront on our integrity, 575 00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:50.039 you know, we will stand united and speak against it. So I think 576 00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:54.159 that sent a strong message yesterday that Canada will not tolerate these type of events 577 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.960 all up block. Yes, thank you. And just as a follow up, 578 00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:06.679 we've we've talked about the the inquiry itself and you've mentioned that the scope, 579 00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:08.599 but that should be broadened. I just like to push you a little 580 00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:14.320 bit. Are there specific protections for diaspora communities that you would like to see 581 00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:19.000 that could come out of that inquiry. So certainly we'd liked we'd like it 582 00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:24.559 to be acknowledged the rule of foreign interference and how it affects minority groups in 583 00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:30.559 Canada, including Canadian six and uh, you know, we you know, 584 00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:36.800 when we look at the physical threat to life in Canada, I think it's 585 00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:44.119 something that you know, will really help ground us to the realities of what 586 00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:47.960 a lot of visible minorities face in Canada. A lot of them have come 587 00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:54.960 to Canada retreating from countries where they were persecuted where whether financially, whether due 588 00:57:55.000 --> 00:58:00.519 to their culture or religion. And so I think it's born and for us 589 00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:06.280 to recognize that a large number of immigrants that come to Canada come fleeing persecution 590 00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:09.599 and and then when we look into foreign interference in the role of that in 591 00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:14.320 Canada, I think it goes hand in hand and looking at maybe the physical 592 00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:52.440 protections that is needed for a certain Canadians here. This show has been produced 593 00:58:52.480 --> 00:59:00.559 by Depictions Media. Please contact us at Depictions dot media for more information.