Thank you for listening to Depictures Media Radio. Welcome to Policy and Rights,
the show about the government, policy and human rights. All right, welcome
back to Policy and Rights. Here in Depictions media radio and violence is not
the answer. Let's just leave it at that. And I'm gonna I'm going
to go that way with this whole thing. That we heard reports about a
Zeke leader who is assassinated in India, and that Justin Trudeau is accusing the
Indian government of putting ages in a place in order to find this man to
death. In the next couple of segments, we're gonna hear what a voice
from Anita Ann as she is her parents, as she will say, is
from India, and that a lot of South Asians are a kind of have
mixed feelings and are upset about the accusations and what is going on with this
uh with with this assassination and where Justin Trudeau is finding this information from Where
did ceases get this information that the Indian government would have sought out to kill
a Zeke leader, hard Deep Singh nir Jar. So there is an investigation
going forward to bring the right people to justice as well. When a man's
life is taken unjustly. There should be an investigation, There should be and
outcry the people to say, hey, what's going on, why, why
did this happen. So we're also going to hear from the Muslim community and
the Ze community as they band together to as an outcry that hey, this
person was killed unjustly. Let's get to the bottom of it. Let's find
justice and figure out what really happened. Not to simply make flagrant allegations without
proof and not really accusing Justin Trudeau of fragrant allegations, but if he holds
a body of truth, he needs to be transparent with it. And other
statements that we're not going to actually air on this podcast, mister Polier has
asked Justin Trudeau to come forward in a very transparent way, come forward with
the information that he has, not keep it hidden behind doors, because people
need to know what actually happened. That he's making allegations that the Indian government
could be behind this, and if the Indian government is behind this, there
are others who are like her Deep Singh, the jar that need to be
protected and what's the plan to do that? Also, So why don't we
listen to Anita and non. We're going to start with her first, and
then in another segment afterwards, you will actually hear from the zeke In Muslim
government as oh, I'm sorry, zeke In Muslim leaderships from different organizations as
they speak out in front of the press about what they expect from the Canadian
government and the justice Canadian justice system to find what really happened to our Deep
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a very difficult time to hear the Prime Minister make the remarks that he did,
especially for families who come from India. I'm thinking about my parents for
example, and I will say that I think that that sentiment is shared by
South Asians and families who come from India regardless of religion. And I would
just say that this is a time where we have to do two things.
One, let the legal process continue as it must and be prudent in that
respect my government can I just finish. And the second thing that we have
to do is that we need to be empathetic because this is a time that
families who come from India, regardless of religion, are going to find it
difficult. And so I would just ask us to be empathetic and unified at
the same time, and I appeal for calm. Last year there was a
policy on Endo Indo Pacific policy. It was a way of you know,
getting away from China. In light of all this, in light of what
India is saying about Canada being too soft on quote unquote sick terrorism, are
we going too fast and trying to build some relationship with from you? You
will recall that our Indo Pacific strategy is prudent and is particularly targeted at areas
where we have a contribution to make from a geostrategic standpoint, building people to
people ties in the region. Adding a third frigate from a defense perspective,
and so I know that Minister Juolie is continuing to pursue the Indo Pacific strategy
and it remains Implosania. What are yourself in the Prime Minister's announcement yesterday,
Well, first and foremost arts go out to Hardeep's family and our main focus
and making sure that the family guess the justice that deserve and from me,
yesterday's the message. I hope they'll also sends the race message of confidence and
a strong message to all the communities who are potentially impacted by foreign interference that
their government not only takes foreign interference extremely seriously. But this is something we've
been on for a very long time. Some things you can talk about in
public and some things that you can, but this is something that we will
always as Canadians protect ourselves. People in your community that will not be surprised
by the why didn't you? Some of them will be scared. Mister da
Jar was notified by c CYST that he was a target, yet Canada was
not able to protect him. What do you have to say to the member
of your community right now? At our works The first and foremost to the
community and also as a member of our community, we grew up with a
lot of these these concerns. It's one of the reasons why when we form
a government, we take these adding allegations very very seriously and making sure that
our security agency do the appropriate work in this case, and right now,
we're going to stay focused on making sure that the family gets suggested and also
making sure that the appropriate people get the appropriate information so that they can feel
safe in our country. And is also saying that there are officials elected officials
in Canada that are promoting a separatist state of Kalistan. Are you one of
them? You know exactly. I have answered this question for a very long
time. I've served my country in the military, I've been a police officer,
and you can just imagine the scrutiny that you end up going through.
And I think you guys can do your own maths on this when accusations are
made and then looking at what other nations may potentially do in trying to ruin
somebody's reputation just for the sake of trying to create a certain narrative. And
this is something that all Canadians need to be mindful of and something that our
community and some other communities have been very mindful of for a very long time.
And for us, I've been very clear not only who I am as
a person, at the same time, I also been very clear what my
attentions and our governments attentions of what we do around run the country. I
never supported always making sure that we my focus always been serving Canadians and UH
And hopefully this will send a very strong message to all others who are falsely
falsely accused constantly by this and making sure that others don't also promote and there's
been making those accusations for a very long time. And then if you go
back from the time that I got elected, even before when they used to
serve in the military, I think you could draw your own conclusions to this.
And more importantly, not just for the this is not just about the
Indian Coveniensi community. This is about all the communities making sure that in our
country we have you know, Canadians from all over the world. I have
been privileged every single time when I was in the international portfolio, when I
went to go to somebody else's country and I said, you know what,
sir, or ma'am. We have your citizens, peace of your country in
Canada because we have candide from all over and because of this, we have
our democracy and the right to peacefully express our views regardless of this and the
key word being peaceful, and we will protect you. Do you feel secured?
Do you feel secure yourself? And in light of what happened, do
you feel secure? The one of the things is is I would say that
I've trust in our agencies, but I want to make sure that rather than
about me, I want to make sure that Canadians feel secure. And my
strong message to them is that all our agency are doing their utmost, not
just in the short term. We've been doing focused on this for a very
long time, to making sure that not only our security agency has the appropriate
resources, but also make sure that they are the appropriate information. A lot
of this work and I used to be a police officer or something you can't
share and we have to protect the integrity of the investigation right now, and
also our intelligence work as well. We have to protect our sources and making
sure that they work appropriately. But one thing that Canadians can be very proud
of and I am, is that we have the right people the right agency,
the right tools to be able to do this work. It is very
sensitive work, but this is just another example how we es Canadians will come
together to making sure that people are future of our relations with the future of
our relations within Where does he go from now? You know I am right
number. We're focused on hopeful that the Indian government cooperates with the with the
investigation. When it comes to all the other relationships that we have, we
you know we will afford to continue you in as normal when it come to
first and foremost right now. First and foremost first and foremost right now is
one. We want to make sure that we protect the integrity and the investigation
and that the her Deep family get the justice that they deserves. Thank you.
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step in the right direction. We summoned the executives to Ottawa, the King.
I think it was the first in Canada, that's when I'm told.
And secondly, what matters is that they committed not only to the government of
Canada, but the Canadians were watching, to bring meaningful action by Thanksgiving to
stabilize price in Canada. So you know, this is step one. There's
a lot of work, you know, no one pretends it's easy. I
was in touch with my counterparts in Europe this morning. We're gonna look at
what we can do because we know that this is the first step. The
second step is to go after the large manufacturer and that maybe we need international
cooperation, you know. So we're going to be talking to our UK friends,
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up with plans by Thanksgiving to take meaningful action to stabilize price in Canada.
Now that how they're going to do it, you want to allow competition for
that because you know what, it's not just about the Government of Canada telling
them we want you to be part of the solution. But there's millions of
customers. So what I want is that now we'll let competition because they have
to compete for customers. None that the goal has been said, the timeline
is clear. Now it's for them to compete amongst each other. These people
compete. You should have seen in the meeting. They all look at each
other and say, okay, if one is doing that, the other one
may try to to do more. And that's what we want because fundamentally,
what we want, like I said, it is to stabilize price. And
now they're going to be I think, very creative and trying to see how
they can achieve that. But we want to let competition go because I'm after
the manufacturers, what do you need, Well, we'll have a similar meeting
that we had and I'm looking also, what's being done, particularly in France.
I'm going to talk to my UK counterparts. I think you see a
movement not only in Canada but in Europe to see that also. These large
manufacturers have to account and have to be part of the solution. So we're
going to be pushing them as well. And like I said, we're going
to do that domestically, but I don't exclude to have cooperation with my callings
and we have discussion as much and our suston say star posts. You know
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the accelerator funding. Well, I can't spoil what's going to come next.
I was very very encouraged though by the vote that took place at City Council.
I was obviously particularly interested in the file given some of the work that
we're doing around the Housing Accelerator Fund. But I think it's safe to say
that this is precisely the kind of change that we're trying to motivate with the
Housing Accelerator Fund. I was very happy that the mayor was able to use
the letter that we'd sent to help bring counsel along. If people want to
tap in to the Housing Accelerator Fund, which is designed to change the way
that cities build homes. Then they got to change the way that they're going
to build homes. Calgary has certainly took that box. I look forward to
make sure I have a chance to discuss next steps with the mayor before I
broadcast anything today. Now is changing? Are you going to say more today?
Not today? But I expect we will be able to share more tradition
future. There was changing a density zarning Is that going to be like a
key figure that the government is looking for in these plans? Absolutely, building
more dense cities that are livable for their residents is going to be a huge
part of the path forward. The exact solution on a city by city basis
could vary given what's appropriate for one community based on factors ranging from a geography,
from access to municipal services, the capacity of water and sewer systems.
I don't want to be dogmatic that there has to be a single rule for
every single community, but certainly increasing densification and building homes near the services that
people rely upon, it's going to be a key part of the path forward
and the CMHC to I haven't really said too too much on exactly when the
money is going to start rolling out beyond it would start by the end of
the year. When do you hope to have these deals finalized as soon as
possible. So we'll obviously be aware that we've reached an agreement with the City
of London. I anticipate there will be many more to drop up over the
course of the fall. The one piece that I would caution Quran is we're
not going to assign any deal. We're going to make sure that we're agreeing
with communities that have good plans will build more homes. The goal is not
to get money out the door. The goal is to build more homes and
cities across this country and that's what the Housing Accelerator Fund is going to do.
What would you say to the Indian well Canadian in your community, the
community and are scared with what you learned? Look, I obviously have a
huge affinity for the South Asian and Indo Canadian community in this country, giving
the importance of the diaspora community to Canada's social and economic well being. This
has been a tough couple of days. I've been engaged with some of my
colleagues, not only who come from the community, but who represent large populations
from from India within their communities, and they're having a hard time. When
you see the challenges associated with political divisions religious divisions on other parts of the
world playing out in our own country, it puts a lot of pressure on
communities and there's a lot of people experiencing pain that we want to demonstrate that
we are standing alongside them. But obviously the interference and in the manner of
extra judicial killings on Canadian soil Canadian citizen is completely unacceptable. Regardless of your
religion, regardless of which community you come from. I think we can find
common ground that it's entirely unacceptable to be engaged in that kind of behavior.
We will work to get to the bottom of this, but in the meantime,
I hope Canadians, regardless of which community they come from, we're able
to stand alongside one another during this extremely challenging time accelerators. So there was
an announcement in London. Was that the first and only city that got on
agreement? Or are there others? It was the first? There will be
more. There will be more this fall. I have spent much of my
time since that announcement advancing the applications of other cities who are very close to
approvals. Some will require a little bit more before they're ready to receive funding
through the Housing Accelerator Fund. Others are more or less ready to go.
Sorry, you look like you wanted to follow up there coming next year.
I just wanted to know is there any mechanism that that will make sure that
the results aren't there? So you're giving it, giving the money upfront,
are putting on the condition that they change some zoning rules, et cetera.
But what if one year or two years from now there is no increase in
in building. Is there a way to you know, get back the money
or some sets So the money will will flow over a period of a couple
of years as more homes are built. We're going to insist that the cities
report back to us on the progress that they've made. But the indications that
we have is that the and the assessments we're making as a result of our
analysis on the applications is that we're only agreeing to release the funds to the
extent that we believe the measures that are actually being changed are going to lead
to that more home construction. So sorry, could you read what if they
don't? Is there a call that world set well? Well, will will
be in control of the ability to release or not release the funding if somebody
does not perform the actions that form the basis of their application. We're not
going to cut checks and say oh, that's okay, you don't really have
to do it. We only wanted the announcement. Of course, that is
not going to be the path forward, So we're going to monitor the progress
of in terms of implementation and release funds. One of those monsocial what do
you have to have in the agreement is to change zoning rules or in check?
Right, there's no target in terms of the amount of units that need
to be built, So my question is what if there are no more units
being built, even if they did change the zoning. So there are targets
in terms of the number of units that would be built. In London in
particular is a great example. They intend to add more than an additional two
thousand homes over and above what was already scheduled. So we will monitor that
and make sure that we're transferring funding in a concent but yeah, let's get
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not administrative delays. It's the quality of applications we demand that will be producing
more homes for Canadians. As long as we have good applications, We're talking
weeks and months, not years. How are we to region agreement a house?
Those are are you? Look? I never want to pre judge the
outcome of conversations, but I have been having conversations with Minister Duranto, and
our teams are also connected trying to work on finalizing things. The good news
is I, since we share priorities, we both want to see cities change
the way they build homes and build more homes, particularly affordable units. Homes
that people can actually afford. I don't want to presuppose that the government of
Quebec is going to be ready today or tomorrow, but we're going to work
with them more or less every day to get this done as quickly as possible.
I think we are close, but we have a little bit of work
to finalize. Yeah. Look, I I would certainly hope so. But
obviously we are one party to these conversations, and we want to make sure
that we respect Quebec's jurisdiction, particularly with M thirty preventing the ability for us
to engage directly with municipalities. We want to reach an agreement with Quebec expeditiously.
This is not the housing decelerator Fund, it's the housing Accelerator Fund,
and we're going to need to reach an agreement. Question proposal is more successful.
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this individual agreements with into a howege you said it target. They need it,
they got the fundment that they don't. So what do you make of
this plane that he has a more effective appropos of this than you think he's
he's individual? Agree, Well, there's some self interest motivating his perspective.
He wants people to believe that his plan is more effective. But when you
actually look at the people who know the field, people who have studied this
entire careers, they're saying things like it demonstrates he doesn't understand the scale or
urgency of the housing crisis. With respect to mister Qualitie, of his plan
to divvy up one hundred million dollars nationwide is not going to have the same
impact as a four billion dollars fund, seventy four million of which went to
the City of London last week. This is peanuts in comparison to what we're
proposing. The other piece that I don't know how they missed this when you
actually look at the model that he's chosen to move forward with and saying that
we're just going to based on whether you increase the stock he neglects to understand
that some of the bottlenecks for communities require infrastructure investments from the federal government.
How can you expect a city to increase their rate of building by fifteen percent
if you're also going to deny them the support for water and sewer infrastructure that
they need to reach That goal. It looks like he's pulled a couple of
ideas that felt good at a meeting with people who don't work in the housing
sector. But realistically, our programs are informed by advice of people who know
what they're talking about. The early indications in London and Calgary, and there
will be more to come in the weeks ahead, are that we are actually
changing the way that cities build homes. We're not talking about doing in the
future, it's happening now. You haven't figure secure figure. We want to
make sure that we're working with Quebeca, but remember that the housing its Yeah,
indulged me for thirty seconds to explain. The Housing Accelerator Fund is based
on a per unit cost and the exact figure depends upon how many units that
will be built, whether they are affordable in certain other features, and it's
all mapped out, so we are completely open to having Quebec have the appropriate
share. We want to make sure that it results not just in a transfer
without more homes being built. That's not but do we actually reflect the amount.
The exact formula will depend on the homes that will be built. But
the good news is every indication I have from the Province of Quebec is they
want to build just as many homes as we do, and that's a great
place to start negotiation. So guys, I have a cabinet meeting starting.
I'll be here in a couple of hours on my way out if you need
me more. Thanks. Parliamentary study of the bailable fool Pool care Ira bill
is fundamentally important to Canadians. Its mental importance of the parents and families right
around the country. But this is about treat attention. I'm insuring community safety.
And what we're doing with that bill is we tem that bill may obvious.
We had consent of all premiers on attorneys general around the country. We
had the consent yesterday to proceed our new names concerning with all parties. But
how can how can we don't think it need study? How can we don't
I think it needs to study. We're talking about potentially putting more people in
pre trial attention, people who are legally innocent. Why doesn't that need more
study? Bail does not reverse the presumption of innocence. That's an important fact
that you need to be clear about in terms de gouvernment of reading your articles.
First, one, yes, I know can usually legislation gets studied,
especially when it has to do with people's charter rate. And it was skipped
yesterday out of I think political This is politically expedience, politically popular. So
why did you agree on your eject the premise of that entirely the charter compliance
of that bill was verified by me and by my predecessor in advance. This
bill complies with the Charter. This bill received input from pre years and attorneys
general around the country. We've got a lot of input on the front in
defense, lawyers, stakeholders. Why that is why everyone in in that chamber
yesterday decided to work in a non partisan basis to keep Canadians safe. That
is my fundamental job. I will not apologize for doing my fundamental job.
But what about the chance of stakeholders, prisoners, advocates where its defense lawyers
believe our community right? Hello? Run. Prime Minister Justin Trudau's announcement yesterday
that agents of the government of India are suspected to have been involved in the
assassination of haddipzing Ninjer may have shocked many Canadians, but it was not a
surprise to the sick community. For decades India has targeted six in Canada with
espionage, disformation, and now murder. Haddiepsing served as the president of one
of the largest gordodas in Canada and was an outspoken supporter of Kaliston. He
often left peace for protests against the violation of human rights actively taking place in
India. Hardipsing Ninjer had publicly mentioned the threat to his life for months and
said that he was targeted by intelligence agencies. SEESUS and local law enforcement agencies
were aware of the threat to Nija as well as other sick activists in Canada,
and they had been alerted the danger from multiple sources. India cannot be
allowed to disregard the rule of law and the sovereignty of foreign states. The
killing of Hadipzig Ninja and other sick activists were terrorist sacks that must be condemned
by the international community. India must honor its international obligations and cooperate with the
government of Canada in investigating these matters. The World's Sake Organization of Canada calls
for the following six measures. Canada must immediately identify and bring to justice those
individuals who are involved in the targeted killing of Hadip sing Naja. Second,
immediate protection for six in Canada who face a threat from India and its agents.
Third, Canada must conduct a thorough and continuous review of all Indian diplomats
and officials in Canada and immediately remove those found to have been involved in interference
and espionage in Canada. Fourth, Canada must ensure height and measures are introduced
so that Indian nationals involved in that country's intelligence forces and in right human rights
abuses are not permitted to enter Canada. Fifth, Canada must immediately stop all
intelligence sharing, including the Framework for Cooperation on Countering Terrorism and Violent Extremism with
India. And Lastly, the public Inquiry into foreign interference and federal electoral processes
and democratic institutions must examine India's role in foreign interference here in Canada. Thank
you, Montment. Good morning. My name is Steven Brown and I'm the
CEO of the National Council of Canadian Muslims. I like to start by offering
my condolences to the family of Hardeep Singh Najar. He was a person beloved
to his family and his community and he will be missed. Dreaming pans and
La Famide, the Hardeep Singh, Najar stin Pepson image sa Fami a sacramental
thing e ilvonnu monkey Now. Yesterday the Prime Minister informed Canadians that our government
has reason to believe that on the evening of June eighteenth, a Canadian citizen
was assassinated by a foreign government right in front of a place of worship.
Ye Lami Canazierguzon de Chois coresual disd Arstoyen Canazier, the assassiny baru a se
de van ernucute in Sagi Junta Saint cressident Gonnazien point this is an unprecedented attack
against Canadian sovereignty. Full stop rolling this together, because when a Canadian is
attacked, when he or she has the audacity to speak about human rights and
justice, all of us are at risk. Now. Unfortunately, the revelations
yesterday were painful, but could not, for many in our communities, be
characterized as shocking. We, alongside virtually every other credible expert, had warned
that it was only a matter of time before the actions of the Indian government
reached Canadian shores. Our jointly published report with the Sick World or the Sick
Organization on the Dangers of the Restria swamyang Savik Sang or the RSS, the
Indian far right parliamentary organization that a paramilitary organization that is found as ideological home
in the Modi government, received national media attention. It also detailed the level
of harassment already being faced by Canadian Muslim communities domestically, domestically, and unfortunately
it did not result in significant action by the federal or provincial governments at the
time. So les becoming with a Musilman Canadienne he manosmon selena, You're nation
significative, the rapacio and while the idea that the Indian government is involved in
such brazen acts of violence might shock many Canadians, for millions of six Muslims,
Christians, Buddhists and other minorities in India, this type of violence and
utter disregard for the rule of law is an everyday occurrence. Managerism, tragiment
u sam plu d land da Gandhi. Sadly and tragically we are no longer
in Gandhi's India. This is no longer the world's largest liberal democracy. Sinepleu
la pocaci liberlumand the Indian government has been taken over by a fire right extremist
paramilitary organization called the RSS. This type of impunity is not an anomaly,
it is by design sea concepcion. What we're talking about here, to be
clear, is a deliberate act of violence by a foreign government on Canadian soil
against one of our own citizens. This act of spate, state sponsor terrorism
must be met with the highest response, and so today we join the Sick
community and our partners at the World Sick Organization of Canada in calling for action
from the Government of Canada. At this moment, it is paramount that the
killers of a fellow Canadian are brought to justice and protections must be put in
place immediately to ensure the safety of all Canadians from all threats, both foreign
and domestic. Along with the powerful calls for diplomatic consequences, an end to
intelligence sharing, and a public inquiry my colleague just mentioned, we at NCCM
are calling for four additional actions. One the immediate recalling of Canada's ambassador to
India. Two, an initiation of the process of expulsion of the Indian ambassador
to Canada, High Commissioner Shri Sanjay Kumar Verma, three, a formal freeze
on trade negotiations between India and Canada, including but not limited to the Comprehensive
Economic Partnership Agreement or SIPA, and four. Together with the WSO, we
today call for the immediate banning of the RSS under the listing provisions in the
Criminal Code and the removal of its agents from Canada. Of nance diplomatique public
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Lambassador Canadas, Sri sanj Kumar Vermai Land Canada, econ PRIs La Economy lab
USIPA Ancle Labara, WSO luz Appeland imidias on vertu des called Ciminella. We
must understand that this assassination of one of our fellow citizens on the streets of
our country in broad daylight, in front of a place of worship, affects
each and every one of us. During the no stoyang du the varlued cut
to shaker denu, it's the culpett in acceptab. This assassination was an attack
on all of us as Canadians. This is why we must take action and
we must take action right now. Thank you very much. There. If
are you formally accusing the RSS of murdering sing n Jar, pardon are you
only accusing the RSS of murdering mister singh Jar, not formally accusing the RSS
of murdering lists sing the Jar. But what we are saying is that and
you can see this in the report that was published can jointly with the WSO,
members of the Muslim community and the sick community and many other communities have
been complaining for years that they have been targeted by harassment and threats by individuals
and associations affiliated with the RSS. And for years we've been talking to this
about about this topic to the Canadian government and nothing has been done, which
is why we are asking right now for the Canadian government to ban the RSS
from Canada and EXPALSE agents from the country. Is there fear right now for
others who are sick or Muslim since there's a large Muslim but larger Musim minority
ahould saying India of further violence or being targeted. Is there confidence that Canadian
officials can keep those communities here in Canada safe. We believe that the Canadian
government has the ability to keep all Canadian citizens safe. But yes, when
members of the community have been talking about being targeted and discriminated against and harassed,
not in India but in Canada for years, and we can see in
Canada our Prime Minister getting up in the House of Commons and saying that there
is evidence, credible evidence to suggest that the agent of a foreign country is
assassinating religious minorities in our country. They're killing Canadians in broad daylight in our
country. It's absolutely unacceptable, it's absolutely acceptable, and anybody would be wise
to be concerned about this, not just ethnic minorities, not just religious minorities.
I mean in Canada, if you can't talk, if you cannot have
an opinion about another foreign government without having to worry about walking outside and worrying
is there going to be a foreign that's going to gun you down on the
streets. What's going on? So I have every confidence that the Canadian government
will take all measures necessary to protect Canadian citizens. Do you speak French,
I understand it, Okayama, so you can hear me. But let's say
we are specifically asking for sick activists, those that are been identifies as having
threats and there are a number of Canadian six that have been identified as having
a threat to their life, and we were asking for the government of Canada
to provide protection for these six in Canada, those six approaching like is the
RC ANDP warned those six that there's a thread to them or is it the
other way around? Is it this the community asking Canadian law enforce them for
protection. I think it goes both ways, and there have been a number
of cases where officials have warned them that there was a threat to their life.
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but two and more importantly, make sure that this doesn't happen again, that
all Canadians are safe. People should not have to be worried about getting shot
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in hiding because they don't feel the Canadian law enforcement agencies or government has their
backs when it comes to extra judicial attempts on their lives. Do we are
aware of Canadian six that are under threat? They've been advised to make changes
to UH their pattern of living, whether it live, moving, or otherwise.
So we are aware of threats to Canadian six at the moment. Yes,
it's I don't have an exact number, but I can say that there
are a number. I mean, there's a there's So I don't have an
exact number on how many, how many effectives threats personally, I have not
done who's advising them? You said they've been advised to take precautions. It's
been a combination as an answer before. Whereas some of the community members have
advised local officials of threats against their lives, local officials have also advised some
community members of some threats to their life as well. You both referenced the
Public Inquiry into foreign interference. If you look at the terms of reference in
terms of protections for desperate communities, UH, there is you know, a
term to look at protections for those communities in the context of democratic institutions being
imperiled. Would you like to see that scope expanded to look at protections for
desperate communities more broadly outside of you know, election interference for reson It's a
good question. Would I would tend with the news, with the news we
just heard and announcement yesterday, I think it makes sense to add that to
the scope. Certainly, having a basic sense of security, I think is
a comment. It's a it's it's something we need to ensure in this country,
and a foreign interference and foreign countries are affecting that. I think we
need to look into that. What should Canada pursue as a relationship with India.
We've heard the question about the trade agreement that now is in limbo.
You know, there's a huge diaspora communities from many different minorities within India and
also hindience as well. So what what is that the future of that relationship?
In your opinion, we believe Canada needs to stand by its values and
not compromise on those, whether it's a streem of expression, protection for our
minorities, and any relationship internationally needs to be needs to have a foundation of
our core Canadian values. It's almost zoo. We've seen our announcements come in
from the United States, from Australia as well. We're hoping for all the
Five Eyes provide supporting this. I expect that they'll see the threat that this
sort of foreign interference can have on a country such as Canada and other other
countries of similar values. I think it's important for these countries to really identify
and recognize the threat that our countries have when we deal with nations that don't
share similar values, that are open to foreign interference. You know, when
we spoke about stopping intelligence sharing and really for from this Canadian stick community's perspective,
we are expressing this concern in twenty eighteen when that initial intelligence sharing agreement
was announced. It's led to deaths in the past intelligence sharing in Canada for
six and we are aware that this and this information is not used with with
with respect to protecting minorities, are protecting foreign integrity. Do you think Canada
is stuck in a bit of a bind now with India because they have emphasized
an alliance with them economically so much in order to check against growing influenced by
China on the world stage. I'll say I don't in concept we are supportive
of of seeking trade agreements. I think it's it's something that supports the economy
and and by country should be seeking those. Well, we're not supportive of
is trading lives for for trade agreements for economic growth and if we have to
trade, you know, a certain minority group to make such an agreement,
I think we would be against that too. Canadians understand perhaps about the history
that between the India and the sick community that the greater context here that you're
concerned about this announcement yesterday. I believe it's a tip of the iceberg.
This is not the first time that somebody from India and Indias and Indian diplomat
has been kicked out of Canada for foreign interference on the Canadian stick community.
And so there is a pattern here. The Canadian stick community has been speaking
out about it for decades now. And for my part, you know,
I really resonated with what Drick Meetsingh mentioned yesterday. You know, the younger
generation that grew up in Canada, they grew up hearing stories about the persecution,
about the fear of speaking out a little too much, and you might
get on a list or be targeted. And so to see that happening right
now in twenty twenty three in Canada, you know, it's certainly is shocking,
and I hope the larger community sees that and understands how truly shocking this
is to see a Canadian attacked on Canadian soil by a foreign country. I
think we can't understand how shocking that muses. All right, so we'll go
to a question on zoom. We have one time for one last question,
So Palac you want the floor is yours? Hi? Can you hear me?
Okay? Yes, Hi? Thanks. I think this question is probably
best for mcphersing. I'd like to get your comments. Sorry, I'd like
to get your reaction to the Prime Minister's comments today. He said that he
made the decision to come public with intelligence because you wanted to speak with Canada's
allies and have a quote solid grounding on what was happening, and assumably it
was also to speak directly to Prime Minister Modi at the G twenty. At
the same time, he is saying that Canadians do have a quote right to
know about these kinds of threats. What do you make of these comments and
should this information have been made public beforehand in your view, so certainly we're
you know, I'll say we were happy to see that our Prime Minister Trudeau
spoke about this publicly. This is not a surprise or a something a secret
that the Canadian sick community was not aware of. I'll reiterate what my colleague
just mentioned. What I think is most important here and I think maybe one
of the objectives was is to not make the same part as an issue and
bringing it collectively with the other parties. I think it sent a message not
just in Canada but internationally that Canada does not tolerate these types of events and
actions on in our country and any any sort of upfront on our integrity,
you know, we will stand united and speak against it. So I think
that sent a strong message yesterday that Canada will not tolerate these type of events
all up block. Yes, thank you. And just as a follow up,
we've we've talked about the the inquiry itself and you've mentioned that the scope,
but that should be broadened. I just like to push you a little
bit. Are there specific protections for diaspora communities that you would like to see
that could come out of that inquiry. So certainly we'd liked we'd like it
to be acknowledged the rule of foreign interference and how it affects minority groups in
Canada, including Canadian six and uh, you know, we you know,
when we look at the physical threat to life in Canada, I think it's
something that you know, will really help ground us to the realities of what
a lot of visible minorities face in Canada. A lot of them have come
to Canada retreating from countries where they were persecuted where whether financially, whether due
to their culture or religion. And so I think it's born and for us
to recognize that a large number of immigrants that come to Canada come fleeing persecution
and and then when we look into foreign interference in the role of that in
Canada, I think it goes hand in hand and looking at maybe the physical
protections that is needed for a certain Canadians here. This show has been produced
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