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Hey, everybody, Welcome back to
Challenge the podcast all about the Challenge and

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apparently the season where there shall never
be four of us on the call whatsoever.

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As always, I am Brian sitting
across the internet over in Germantown Hills,

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Big Uncle Sweet Tea, which now
Carlin has a picture of that place

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in her mind. I do.
I can go there in my mind right

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and up in Minnesota, Carlin,
San Diego. We've actually been home for

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the past couple of weeks. It's
on Wednesdays now, that's why. Well,

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I mean it's only been the last
two weeks that I've been home,

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but three days prior to the last
meeting in the last podcast, I was

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this episode? Oh, I have
no idea. I didn't take notes?

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Did you really not take notes?
No? I didn't. I thought you

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were taking on this season. No, No, we don't have notes.

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Oh awesome, all right, we're
gonna We're gonna wing it. We're gonna

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wing it. Tonight chat Room.
What happened in this episode? Oh?

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Good lord, I totally thought that
you were taking notes. You didn't ask

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you if I needed if you needed
somebody else to take note. Sorry,

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no, I thought I No,
I didn't take notes. Sorry, guys,

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it's a great podcast so far.
Really, you know, not organized

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completely drop the ball. I for
some reason, I thought you were doing

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it all season. I thought we'd
like figured that out. But so we

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get back to the house. T
is celebrating because she brought it back.

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Melissa's happy. Yeah, Melissa is
very happy. She has her bestie still

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in the house. Girls are still
mad that the guys forced them into a

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to a girl's elimination. But the
girls are dumb because they broke off and

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started voting for each other. Yeahn
Wolfe, you were really paying attention to

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this episode. No, I was
not more than me. I couldn't name

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any of that stuff that you just
named. Is this when we get Jay

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and Chauncey's awkward talk about this alliance
that never ended up happening? Yes?

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Was that now or was that after
the challenge? No? It was kind

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of right now ye before the challenge? Okay, all right, yes we

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have really awkward talk, which started
off with one of them saying, you

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know, I don't really trust you
and the other one saying I don't really

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trust you. I don't know it
was it was awkward. Chauncey was awkward

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this entire episode. Chauncey was not
looking good. But you know, neither

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was Jay because he's done this before. He's like made deals and then immediately

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gone back on them. And this
seems like another time like he's he's aligning

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with Chauncey and then Chauncey doesn't do
well in the challenge and Jay's like,

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oh, well, I guess it's
gonna be you. Then it's like that's

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not an alliance then, man,
like you protect each other when you don't

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do well, not you know whatever. So Jay's not making any friends here

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either, Frankly and Jay, and
he's art shaving his head. Oh that

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receding hairlines horrible, Jame, just
let it go, boy, don't try

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to hold on, man, just
let it go. He's and not only

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is he holding on, holding on
the hair that's like seven or eight inches

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long blaze of glory. Though I
think he realizes his time is limited.

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He's just gonna grow it out.
You know, it doesn't look great,

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but then grow it out. Don't
don't grow it out and then slick it

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back on the top because that doesn't
help. Yeah, I mean, that's

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why he's wearing hats all the time. There was a rumor for a while

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there that Johnny Bananas was he and
a few other people, Johnny and Hunter,

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and there were a few seasons where
they were constantly wearing really thick headband

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like bandanas around their heads because they
all had preceding hairlines. So and then

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they came back and they didn't have
them anymore. Bananas has plugs and probably

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it's on fucking whatever the fuck the
pills are now propitia and probably still sprays

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the ship out of rogue on top
of his head. Does that spray paint

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ship that was on infomercial? Yeah, yeah, I was wrong. What

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should you do, Karlin? What
should you do Jay? With his hair?

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I mean, shave it off,
cut it short. I feel like

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cut it short. He also,
I don't know how well he would off

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at bald head. Yeah, he's
got big ears. He always shows his

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ears under his baseball cap too.
Well. Yeah, I don't know.

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I I don't have that issue thinking
much just then just get it to pay.

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He's gonna have to get it to
pay. Yeah, my buddy Shaye

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got it to pay. Carlin,
would you date a guy that had a

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to pay? No? Would you
d do you either need to just like

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go away with like just do away
with it all or have I don't know.

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I would you date a guy that
had hair plugs? Honestly, I

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don't know audio medium guys. Carlin's
over there strugging. It's audio, That's

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what I said. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not entirely sure.

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I mean, if it makes someone
happy, then go for it. My

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buddy Shay got it to pay,
and uh, I was very successful with

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the ladies, very successful after that. I mean, I'm sure it's one

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of those things that two pays are
not the same thing that they were,

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you know in the nineties when we'd
all think if they're really badly feathered and

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it doesn't match and comes off easily
and all that sort of thing. Thing

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is. I didn't know Shaye had
to pay until Tim pointed it out,

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And as soon as he said something, I could see the line around his

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head. Yeah, I'm just like, oh, that's the thing. I

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mean, there are women who wear
There are tons of women who have extensions

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and who wear wigs all the time. Like it. Yeah, I agree

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with Caroline. If whatever they choose, they want to rock with confidence,

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then I wouldn't care. I agree
with her, they're like it. I

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kind of agree. I think if
women can do all sorts of crazy shit

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with their hair, why not men? Why can't men wear wigs? Why

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is it sort of frowned upon for
men to do that stuff but women can

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and it's okay. I don't know, it's weird. When are we buying

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wigs? Tim? You know,
if it was societally accepted, I would

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wear a wig because I miss my
I miss having hair, but I also

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like being bald. So awake for
any listeners who don't already know Tim and

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Well, if you don't have any
hair on the top of their heads,

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they've got lots on the bottoms of
their well Sally, just to correct you,

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Sally says, I don't have hair, but I do have little spiky's

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all over my head, so I'm
not totally bald. I'm still I'm clinging

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to the balding. Yeah, that's
true. Kay does bring up that Kyle

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had hair plugs and his hair looks
real good, or at least it did

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when the last time we saw him. I don't know that we'll ever see

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him again, all Right, So
anyway, moving on from that, I

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feel like there were more conversations in
the house, and then we moved on

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to the challenge. Job. It's
gonna have to be a super quick episode.

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I was just hate watching it in
the Discord, which is a patron

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exclusive guys. Alright, so the
challenge it was heights above Water, but

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they had to climb ball control.
Is it really Yeah, that's a ridiculous

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name for this thing. They haven't
been really good on the on the names

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recently. They've been They've been really
slacking on the names for all of this

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recently. Agree, he seems very
upset with your hate watching this, Tim.

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Yeah, I don't know what to
say, man, I I I

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just I hate it. I just
hate this season so far. I hate

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the car I hate every person that's
on the show. I don't like any

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of them. I don't care.
No, I don't like Huey. I'm

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not invested in any of these people. No, I don't care. I

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liked it. I liked it the
first time I I almost forgot. I

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don't know. I don't remember if
it was before the challenge or doing that.

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It might have been during the challenge. We have a new boob shirt.

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Oh, nurse, Yeah, it's
like super super low cut. Yeah.

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I don't know how her Jesus keeping
AMD like say that. Yeah.

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I looked up. Oh some fucking
industrial duct tape holding that shit together.

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Yeah, no kidding, all right. So the challenge, Uh, you

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have to there are two ropes hanging
from a platform, and there are twenty

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three balls in the water, one
for every challenger that's on the on the

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in the game, these ropes have
carabiners every few feet or so. You

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have to form two sides of this
and climb up the ropes and create a

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human ladder that people can climb up
to get the balls put into a thing

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at the end of the platform.
The key with this, though, is

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that all of the balls have names
on them, and you can only put

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the ball with your name into the
it's not a hopper, into the the

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ball thing hatch basket. Yep,
No matter what. This is a super

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difficult challenge because every that means every
single person in twenty three minutes in order

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to get fifty grand I knew right
away, like, there's no no,

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twenty three minutes to get twenty three
people to climb that rope, because even

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the weakest person has to climb to
the top of that fucking thing. That

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means at least a couple of people
have to climb up that rope unassisted,

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entirely, and in twenty three minute, like no chance. Well, I

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think it's one of those things that
if they if they had gotten everyone else

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up and it was just the people
hanging on the ropes, then they would

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have started at the bottom and had
the bottom person climb oh yeah, and

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then the next person of course,
so you're not climbing up a rope without

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any assistance. At least that's what
I hope they would do. But they

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couldn't seem to figure their shit out. They spent a solid good few minutes

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just bickering back and forth. How
should we do this? Do we put

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the strong people at the bottom and
get the weak people up first? Do

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we put the weak people in the
middle? Where do we go? Do

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we put small people at the bottom
or small people at the top. And

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I think that exact conflict is why
I'm not liking this season. These are

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all amateurs. We don't have any
bananas or wesses or somebody sort of arranging

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things and telling people how to do
it. Yeah, so they're all just

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lost in frantic and they're fucking it
up, and it's just it's hard to

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watch. I kind of love and
hate that. So Kay in the chat

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room, she says, I don't
think seasons seasoned Vets could have done this.

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I agree with that. I don't
think season Vets could have done this

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in twenty three minutes. I think
they could have done it in half an

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hour, but I don't think they
could have done it in twenty minutes.

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They would have definitely done better than
this, for sure. Yeah, but

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yeah, I mean it's I kind
of love that it's a bunch of newbies

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and they are fumbling their way through
this because they all look ridiculous and it's

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always kind of fun to see that. But I do wish that they had

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one or two people there who were
able to kind of guide them, the

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like six or seven people to kind
of guide them through some of this,

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to give it a little I don't
know, I just move it along a

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little bit, because it would have
been nice to see more people make it

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to the top. Yeah, we
do. We know. Did they say

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it had to be boy girl boy
girl for the latter They didn't say it,

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but it kind of it kind of
I don't even know if it really

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gave that. I don't know,
just there's interesting scenarios where it's like,

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fucking James is like stepping on Olivia
and it's like, yeah, in that

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order, I kind of love that. Yeah, that's true. It does

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make me wonder. I didn't think
about that at the time, but Olivia

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was killing it. She was like
step on my shoulders, step here,

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and pushing people up like she did
a great job being down at the bottom.

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You can see him like stepping on
her chest and shit, and she's

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just like ah yeah. But like
later on she was talking about how she

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or was that earlier It might have
actually been before this when she was talking

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with Hui about being a tomboy,
and she was never really she never really

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expressed her a girl herself in a
girly whale sort of thing. So I

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kind of felt like this paired into
that. Yeah, Kay says, and

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I don't know, how do you
pronounce that guy's name? Karen Kieren Kieran,

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there's no h Yeah, he was
trying to take the leadership role,

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but honestly, he's like he has
no pull in the house. Like who

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is that fucking guy? I don't
even know his name, I can't pronounce

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it. Why does he get off
bossing everybody around this challenge? Well,

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he boss people around the first one
because he is, and they lost it,

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and they lost it, so it's
like he has no he has nothing

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in the pot, you know what
I mean. Yeah, I thought this

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was a good one for Bernad to
actually say something because she's an acrobat,

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like everybody hates but everybody hates her, I know, I realized that,

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but they should have really also thought
like, hey, you know this is

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someone who has real life experience climbing
things like this. Yeah, I knew

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right away nobody was gonna get up
that fucking rope, and then I was

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wrong. A couple of people did. But I think it would have been

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like this is where I think vets
or like people have watched this show for

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forever. In my head, it
was one of those like Okay, get

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a few strong people up, get
the ladder put together first, get a

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few strong people up there, or
go like Strong Week, Strong Week or

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some like that. So you have
a few people up there who can help

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pull thing, pull people farther up, and pull people onto the platform because

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like we've seen, there was a
what was the season that they were They

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were jumping from like triangle to triangle
and Derek grabbed one of the girls,

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I think it was Jenna. Derek
grabbed Jenna and just like one arm pulls

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her back onto the platform as she's
falling. Like, if you have strong

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people farther up in this ladder or
up on the platform, then you can

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have them like throwing basically throwing people
up the ladder and helping them get up

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the ladder and get people farther up
there. I don't know. It was

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a disaster. Yeah, it was
a total mess. It reminded me of

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that challenge on the Ruins where Wes
was at the bottom of this rope ladder

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thing number and he just kept whipping
around to try to knock people off his

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own rope. Oh yeah, remember
that one. Yeah, it was I

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did they have to do too?
Did they have to do both ladders or

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could they have gone up just one? I think they could have gone up

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just one because I think if they
had done this smart, they would have

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put, like I said, put
a few strong people on the ladder like

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every other one, and then that
way you can just really get people go.

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Because they had one ladder that had
strong people on it, one ladder

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who had no one that was strong
on it. Yeah, but it was

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also like Chauncey struggled on this thing. He couldn't get clipped in. He

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climbed uzzles. There are a bunch
of glamor muscles on this show, but

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it seemed like he was close.
I wonder if that was like an equipment

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malfunction or something, because he did
the hard part, like the hard part

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was climbing. It looked like he
was inches away. It just he couldn't

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get it connected or something. I
don't know. I saw some girls who

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were having problems, like they couldn't
pull themselves up enough close to the hook

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to to do it. Like one
of them was like I need both hands

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to work the carabiner or whatever,
and someone had to like push her up

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from like below like so she could
get closer. Yeah, they probably should

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have just put all the strong dudes
up there and then like just launched those

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tiny women, you know, like
Colleen and Michelle that weighed ninety pounds,

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just fucking just toss them on the
top. Again, we've got a bunch

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of glamor muscles. People can't do
shit, I guess. Yeah, Joker

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mentioned all of the men's junk.
I only I think it was James's junk.

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I noticed looked painful. Did you
notice that anybody else see that?

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The gear was like wrapped around it
and it was like it was like you

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can make it out, you know, you can see you would make his

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out a few times this episode.
Yeah, he's he's proud of what he's

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got, very very very bright white
tidy whities. Later on, Yeah,

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it matches all their their veneers on
all their teeth. We'll get there,

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because I have questions about tidy whiteis
or about veneers about tidy whities. Okay,

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yeah, so I don't know this
whole thing, Like, I don't

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remember if we said, but you
get two thousand dollars for each all you

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put in. No, we didn't
say they get three balls and that's it,

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because everybody sucks six thousand dollars,
I mean eight. Yeah, they

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really should have had some stronger people
farther up on that ladder, because like

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Melissa trying to get onto the platform, I don't know how much time she

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wasted trying to get on there and
being scared shitless of falling and all that

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sort of thing. Like that's I
feel like the challenge has a disproportionate number

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of people who are terrified of heights. Really, Either that or I just

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don't realize how many people are terrified
of heights. Heuse, thirty feet above

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water is not very high. I
think there's more people that when they're in

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that situation, would be scared then
than would be just talking about it,

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you know what I mean, Like
how many people are in that posit I've

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never been thirty feet above water.
I can assume I wouldn't be scared of

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that. But once you're up there, it's like that feels longer than it

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is, you know, but you're
falling in the water. Yeah yeah,

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but water, like you can die
falling into water, like Leroy almost die.

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People jump off the gold and also
jumped into the back of a car

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and slammed his entire body into the
back of a car and then fell in

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water. Yeah, like that's an
entirely different case. I mean, it's

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yeah, and like Tony fell in
water in an awkward way and he busted

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his spleen, Like, yeah,
you can definitely hurt yourselves in yourself.

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There's there are plenty of people who
have you know, busted their face open

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all that sort of thing doing it, but they I don't know it.

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Like a high dive, I want
to say, a high dive is what

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ten? Yeah, I would never. I would never do a high dive.

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I've never done it. I never
will, absolutely not. I've never

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like jove off a high dive,
but I have cannon balled and penciled off

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a high dive. Me gone jumping
off of that height? That shit,

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I haven't, but I would.
I wouldn't. No why why okay?

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But if you are, if you're
playing no desire okay, But if you

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are, if you're in, if
your career is based on playing a game

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where you have to you know that
you're going to have to do multiple challenges

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every season that are heights above water, that are usually roughly thirty feet above

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water. You would think that in
the off season you'd find somewhere with a

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high dive and just go and just
do it, But this would also require

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you to learn how to swim and
do all of these other things that people

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don't know how to do. Oh, I know how to swim. But

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yes, if I was if there
was a financial incentive for me to do

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it, then I would. But
it's again, there's no why would I

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Why would I want to jump off
that ship? There's fifty thousand dollars incentive

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to do it? Tim and then
and they were horrible at it. Yeah,

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well you know they're not as strong
mentally as I am. A ks

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would you do it? Would you
do it for one million? Yes?

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Yeah, absolutely, yes I would
pick Tim up and throw him off of

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it for one million dollars. Yeah, yes, I would absolutely do it

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for a million dollars. But no, just for funzies? No, No,

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what do I have to prove?
No? Not doing that? No,

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I mean for funzies. It doesn't
matter. But if you're most of

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the people in this challenge, this
is their career. A lot of times,

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like anyone who plays this game,
this is this is what they're doing

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as a career. I feel like
this gets said every season. If this

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is what you are choosing to do, you need to learn how to do

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puzzles and swimming and running for dolling
distances and not have just glamor muscles and

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like. There there are certain criteria
that you need to have that somehow people

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don't have, And one of the
big ones is knowing how to deal with

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heights above water. Yeah, I
get standing on top of a building and

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doing a like a tight rope in
between two skyscrapers is not something that you

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can just like go out and do. But right, you can do well,

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or could you If you had a
bunch of safety ropes and bungee cords

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and everything else else, then I
would just be like, yeah, okay,

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let's do it well. I mean, I think Karl means you can't

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go practice it on the weekends.
Yeah, you can just be like,

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oh, let me go, let
me go practice doing this weird fucking thing,

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gotcha. But yeah, anyway,
so yeah, only three balls.

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Kind of kind of terrible. Yeah, very They all have very defeated faces

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on themselves. Evan Hueye does the
speech of oh we all did great.

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You were just saying that because you
didn't do well. Well. He's one

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of these positive people that everything is
always great and whatever. But sometimes Tim

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fucking hates those people. I mean, I hate everybody on this season.

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I don't mind being a positive person. I tend to be a positive person,

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but on a show like this,
you're just putting a target on yourself,

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like don't don't speak up, because
then the last thing people are gonna

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think about when they think the challenge
is you saying something, even if it's

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positive, but this and you said
something. Yeah. And also they could

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have increased the price package by one
hundred grand at this point, right,

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and they've increased it three thousand,
so little demoralizing, Oh sorry, six

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thousand, you're yah six thousand,
but super demoralizing. And also every time

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they lose one of these, it's
a little lesson sent them to win the

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final it's like, who gives a
shit? Yeah, I really do wonder

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So we speculated on this last episode
because the first part of the challenge,

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like first part of the game,
they can earn, second part is when

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all the champs come in and they
could potentially lose, and then third part

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they can earn more. Do you
think we were speculating back and forth on

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whether in that third part they can
actually get it up to that or five

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hundred thousand, or if they can
only get it up like, right now,

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they can only get it up one
hundred and fifty, and then in

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the second or the third part they
could also get it up another one hundred

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and fifty. Yeah, I guess
we'll see. I also hate this control

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chaos. What is the last one? Conclusion? What's the last one who

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gives this conquest quest? Who cares? This is stupid? It's all so

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stupid. This game is dumb.
This season sucks. Just can we just

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admit that to everybody that's watching Carolina. It's a lot where Caroline says that

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it's a lot more gimmicky than normal. I agree, it is a lot

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more gimmicky than normal. There are
a lot of like games within games.

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It feels very game showy. Yeah, it's super gimmicky. These people are

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amateur hour. I don't like.
I just don't like this season. And

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where's my champs? Where's my champs? I only watched this I know,

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like for like thirty seconds an episode. I want them to be like playing

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the game. I know it would
be nice. That's why. That's why

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I watched this show to watch the
people I like. This season has nobody

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that I like. Yeah, all
right, so we moved from there to.

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We go back to the house.
There's lots of game talk, and

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then we have a party night.
Did you just miss Jamies? I feel

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like that's after the party night?
Sorry, it is right now. I

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apologize. Excuse you. I said
I do your notes last week. I

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did your notes this week. I
did almost text you to say hey,

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just to make sure I'm not doing
notes tonight because I don't have time.

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Oh yeah, you know I didn't
do it. Well, terms over there

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slacking on his job the ship.
All right, So we're back in the

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house and yeah, they're all showered
and whatnot and talking game and how people

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did and who they think should go
in and blah blah blah blah blah blah

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blah. And then there's a really
I was going to say great, but

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it's not really great. There's a
scene where Huey is laying on the bed

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talking to James, who is standing
in front of a window in nothing but

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very very very violently white tidy whities. They are violently white. Well,

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I mean you want them that rather
than like I would assume, right,

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but it was it was it was
shocking to see how white they are against

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his very tanned body. And then
you have his timm You're right, they

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do match his veneers. So everybody
on this show has the brightest fucking teeth

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of all time. They just they
radio. I feel like the Brits have

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the brighter ones. They're over compensating, Yeah, because Brits usually have terrible

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teeth. I need to do some
vene ears. Yeah, I don't know.

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I'm find I'm fine with my teeth. My my parents have already spent

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a ship ton of money on my
teeth, so I don't want to spend

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anymore. How do we how do
we feel about tidy whities? Though?

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I thought the world has moved on
from tidy whities, but James is just

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flaunting on white. That's so too
like people wear so well. I mean

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question to you guys, and any
of the guys in the chat room,

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are tidy whities something that are still
used? Haven't wore tidy whities since like

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grade school? I probably wore tidy
whities through through junior high. But I

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think I transitioned to boxers in high
school. Joker says, no box of

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briefs. All right, Yeah,
I moved on. I think every guy

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that I have dated has either been
boxers or boxer briefs. Yeah, I

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moved on to boxer briefs like five
years ago. I was boxers for a

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long time. Yeah yeah, Well
for you a box of brief guy,

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box of briefs because my boxers were
I don't know, I was ripping the

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crotch out of them because apparently my
dick is so big. Assumption anyway,

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But so I had to move to
box of briefs are a little more stretchy.

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My dick is so big. I
burn out boxer briefs too. I

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have to wear two pairs. This
is at a time, all the time,

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Carl helping is your dick? My
dick is so big that I don't

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wear underwork because I blow it all
out. Whoa, Yeah, well he's

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sporting the tidy whities. He looks
good, and I'm you know, I

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wish I had the confidence to just
just wear that ship in front of a

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window. So this is gonna be
my question, Carl. And you go

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on a date with somebody, things
get a little uh going well, going

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back to his house, he takes
the pants off, he's got tidy whities

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on. What happens? Are you
just like, no, no tidy whities

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in my life. No. I
mean if if if things are getting spicy

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and I'm enjoying myself and then he
just like takes off his pants has I

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mean, if there is bright white
as that, then hopefully the rest of

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his clothes are clean. I don't
know, it's it'd be one of those

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like do you just start laughing hysterically. Yeah. Honestly, if they're under

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I would probably not say anything at
that point in time. I would continue

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enjoying myself and then post coital.
So they're like so tiny whities. Huh

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what about under roofs? Wouldunderous make
you walk out under roofs? They're like

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tiny whities, but I have like
Superman logos and ship on them. They're

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for kids under roofs. Yeah,
of course I know what under under roofs

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are human You're a human being.
I don't no, no, no,

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they're from our generation. Yeah,
they made girl ones too. I think

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under rus are more from the eighties
and nineties than they are. I have

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absolute idea what those are. I'm
googling it. Yeah. If if a

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dude took off his pants and head
on Superman underwear, I think I just

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kind of sit there and be like, uh, one of those. In

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general, Superman underwear doesn't do it
for you. I mean maybe if they're

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boxers and it's like we've been dating
for a year, But if this is

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the first time that we're getting spicy, I don't. I don't want you

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taking off your underwear or taking off
your pants and having Superman underwear on.

407
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I would have put thought into mine. Then you better be putting in little

408
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:15,400
thought. What if there Clark kent't
underwear and he takes it off and then

409
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:26,240
his dick is wearing a cap.
Come on, that's like so specific.

410
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,240
Have you either done that or had
that happen to you? That can only

411
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:41,799
happen if it's Halloween. Underus came
out in nineteen seventy seven Wikipedia. Honestly,

412
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:48,160
I wear underwear. I don't.
I don't know the name of it,

413
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:55,759
like you don't know the name of
it. Yeah, I wear underwear

414
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:03,200
like it. Outside of wearing things
that are from Victoria's Secret, I don't

415
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,880
know the name of my underwear.
I think Haynes, Fred Loom, Docker

416
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:17,000
Jockey. There's a few, all
right. Well, anyway, are we

417
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,880
on a club night? Yeah?
Sure, I don't think's anything else other

418
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,359
than like them all talking about who
needs to go in and people throwing around

419
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,000
Huey and Chauncey's names. Yeah,
Chauncey seems to be getting the brunt because

420
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,119
he did not climb up the road, but a lot of people didn't,

421
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:33,319
so I'm not sure why. He
sounds like he's also getting the brunt for

422
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:40,759
the same reason that Berna got the
brunt last week, in that he hasn't

423
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:45,839
seemed to have made the most the
best impression. But yeah, we're onto

424
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:49,279
the club night. Kay wants to
know. Do you all like the ninety

425
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:56,799
minute episodes? No? Wow,
this could have been I really think.

426
00:30:56,279 --> 00:31:00,440
I think the CBS versions are highly
super here, and I think All Stars

427
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:03,400
is too. I so like they've
spoiled me. Now when I'm back to

428
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,440
the MTV, it's like, are
you fucking serious? And ninety minute episodes

429
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,799
in their garbage. I think the
CBS versions have spoiled us with like the

430
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:17,720
length and the number of episodes.
Yeah, but I don't. I'm still

431
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,119
on the fence as to whether the
actual content of the episodes is better in

432
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,880
comparison to the season. It might
be, but yes, I think it

433
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,799
is. I think you know,
the CBS version, there's a little more.

434
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,960
It's more gameplay stuff. This is
more like what we're about to get

435
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,839
into Kylon and Melissa, which is
just sort of like who gives a fucking

436
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:36,720
show? You also saw a game
the last I mean, the last two

437
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:41,920
seasons of the CBS Show have been
very game oriented because you've got people from

438
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,799
a bunch of different games. Yeah, so they and who are trying to

439
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:49,000
figure out this game, right,
But I like it. I liked more

440
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:53,160
game stuff me too. I appreciated
the more game oriented. I appreciated the

441
00:31:55,599 --> 00:32:01,920
I did not appreciate the lackluster challenge
and elimination, but I appreciated the gameplay.

442
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,640
Yeah, this one is much more
social, yes, Carlyn. Carolyn

443
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,240
says she just came across the scene
with the aforementioned tidy whities, and I

444
00:32:12,279 --> 00:32:16,039
don't think they're true to tidy whities. I think they're hipsters. Okay,

445
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,400
they they look like tidy whities.
I don't I don't care if they're hipsters

446
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,759
or I don't care they're white exactly. You got the flap on the front,

447
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:36,400
that's all that matters. They are
almost almost see through. Yeah,

448
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,519
yes, we've got the got a
scene where kyland and and Melissa are up

449
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:46,079
on the stage dancing, and then
everybody starts chanting that he should kiss her.

450
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,039
This scene actually endeared kyl Are you
serious? Yeah? I got so

451
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:57,200
angry at this scene. I posted
about it in discord. I know it

452
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:00,559
was one of those he mentioned in
the very first episode of the show that

453
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,519
he's been diagnosed with autism, and
the moment that they started doing this,

454
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:09,039
the moment they started doing this,
my immediate thought was, this is not

455
00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:14,079
He's not gonna do this because he
feels uncomfortable, because this is not how

456
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:20,200
he processes things like this is this
is a scene that this is a situation

457
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:22,279
that is out of his norm,
that is not something that he's going to

458
00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:25,440
understand all of the social cues for, and he's not gonna be comfortable with

459
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,759
all the social cues for. Right. So was it on the first episode

460
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:31,920
or was it the episode zero?
Oh it might have been episode zero.

461
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:36,359
Oh, Yeah, I didn't hear
it because I missed that, And when

462
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:37,680
he said it on here, I
was like, oh shit, I didn't

463
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,799
know. Yeah, when he said
it, I'm like, oh, that

464
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,400
makes a lot more sense for a
lot of stuff. Even Yep, this

465
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:50,119
season a Big Brother that he was
on I'm like, that clears up a

466
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,720
lot. Actually, yeah, it
he apparently, like he said in this

467
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:57,279
episode, he got diagnosed with it
a lot later, so I think it

468
00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:01,960
was in between Big Brother and this, and yes, it must have been

469
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,440
episode zero. But as soon as
he said that, it made a lot

470
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,599
of sense for like shit that happened
in his first season that he was on

471
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:15,719
and the way that he reacted to
things. Okay, yeah, I get

472
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,599
this a little bit more. I
just didn't like it because it seemed it

473
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:22,079
seemed childish from the peanut gallery.
That's like hanging them on. It's clearly

474
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,360
uncomfortable, so give him a break. And then Melissa's reaction to it too,

475
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,440
of crying, I guess his reaction
just like it's just like this is

476
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,840
all just fucking kids stuff. It's
just like it's just ship. I don't

477
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:39,639
care about any of this, you
know. Yeah, it because it was

478
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:45,599
one of the like I immediately immediately
realized, like he's this is not a

479
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:49,400
normal He's not going to know how
to deal with this situation. Yeah,

480
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,719
Tim, Tim hates Amy showing of
emotion, So that's true, true,

481
00:34:53,000 --> 00:35:00,119
that's why you hate it. Yeah, Melissa's reaction was I mean she he's

482
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:01,639
on a TV show. That's why
she's on a TV show because she over

483
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:07,960
reacts to everything, because they all
overreact to everything. But her reaction to

484
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:14,679
this to like freak the fuck out. Yeah, I think she just thought

485
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,480
they were vibing and then he pretty
much like rejected her up there from her

486
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,079
perspective, and she's she mentioned she's
like away from her kids and she's like

487
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:29,400
an only parent. Yeah, she's
just emotionally vulnerable. Guess who was therapy

488
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,800
coming up in a couple of days. That would be me. No,

489
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:39,679
I get it. It was just
it was annoying. Hmm. Yeah,

490
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,519
it was super annoying. I didn't
like any part of this interaction. Uh

491
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,599
just you know this club night,
it's stupid. I have a bad attitude

492
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:51,320
about this whole season. It made
out later in Kylon's bed, so it's

493
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,199
all right, Yeah, but when
Kylin wouldn't shut the fuck up? Was

494
00:35:54,239 --> 00:36:02,519
it probably another half hour? Was
two hours? I didn't catch all of

495
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:06,400
the time fra him, but I
mean I get it, like, you're

496
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,119
here for a game and he's got
it. He's very focused and he doesn't

497
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,920
take the same kind of social cues
and a lot of it that most people

498
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,639
do. And he's very focused on
this thing and he wants to talk through

499
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:21,960
it all. And but I have
a feeling she was probably asleep for a

500
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,880
good amount and he was just talking. Yeah, that seems that seems about

501
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,199
right solid. There was like a
half an hour to an hour time change

502
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:31,599
and they were in the exact same
position. Yeah, and all she could

503
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:36,320
say was like, I'm tired.
I can shut up, dude, go

504
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,800
to bed. It was funy though, Yeah, I guess, I don't

505
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,559
know, I don't care. So
what happened after this they all woke up.

506
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:51,119
Was this more strategizing before the vote? Yeah, this was the This

507
00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:54,840
was when they were all deliberating and
oh this was the big round table.

508
00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:00,920
Not round table, but like they're
all sitting around and talking about who should

509
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,159
who they should vote in and all
that sort of thing, and they go

510
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:07,639
absolutely nowhere. It's a lot of
back and forth. And this is this

511
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,800
is when there is an important thing
from the club night that we should talk

512
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,840
about, which is Huey brings up
because he's talking to Jay and he brings

513
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,119
up that it sounds like people say
they're going to choose him if they get

514
00:37:22,599 --> 00:37:27,559
voted in or whatever. So then
Hughey starts to wonder, should I just

515
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,880
go ahead and be the vote?
Oh? Yeah, I can see what

516
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,039
the game is and I can pick
whoever I want to go against because I'm

517
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:38,440
not scared of going against anybody.
Do you think this is smart? No

518
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,719
smart idea for him. No.
You never vote yourself in. Never.

519
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,599
We have learned this another unless you
have to be you have to go through

520
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:52,960
the elimination in order to get to
the final and you luck out like Jenny

521
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,760
did that season when she went against
Jen and it was no competition at all.

522
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,960
Unless you have to go through to
get there. You never vote yourself

523
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,920
in. Yeah. Never, Yeah, they're they're swinging it. We've seen

524
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,360
them do this in other seasons too. That it's better to be the house

525
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,119
vote because then you pick whoever you
want. But it's not because then you're

526
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,119
if your house vote, you're definitely
going in. If you're not house vote,

527
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:19,400
you maybe are, so you wouldn't. You should never volunteer to be

528
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,360
house vote. I think that that's
a stupid way to do it, except

529
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:27,599
for pride reasons or to show off
on TV or something. Maybe. Yeah,

530
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:32,360
I guess like in this game,
it's better to be the it is

531
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,719
still better to be the House vote
because then you can choose who you want

532
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,360
to go against. But yeah,
well it's better to be the House vote

533
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:45,119
than to be chosen, but you're
not definitely going to be chosen. Yeah,

534
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,320
yeah, yeah, So if if
you're Hughie and I don't know what

535
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Hugh's strengths are, he maybe is
a puzzle guy. If Chauncey's down there

536
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,719
and there's a puzzle, he's probably
not gonna pick Huey. It was mentioned

537
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:59,159
a few times this episode that Hughey's
like a strong guy and that he has

538
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,440
real against everyone else, and like
they talked about it, and I feel

539
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,480
like they talked about it in the
actual challenge about how he should do really

540
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:12,760
well. And when I look at
hue I don't see like, I don't

541
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,000
see a really strong competitor. Yeah, he certainly doesn't look big, but

542
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:22,920
yeah, he doesn't look the type
as somebody that is super athletic and will

543
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,840
do well. But that doesn't mean
much because we saw James burn the fuck

544
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,679
out on this simple jogging game,
so maybe they know something we don't.

545
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:36,000
But I wouldn't be scared of Hughie
and most of these competitions either. Yeah,

546
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,239
I don't remember how he did on
his season. He had actually pushing

547
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,960
him a lot of the time.
Yeah, but I'm just saying I don't

548
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,199
remember. Did they do well?
He did decent, Remember he and Ashley

549
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,360
did decent his in his last season, But I don't, like, I

550
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,840
mean, in comparison to the really
athletic guys, I don't remember him doing

551
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:05,639
spectacularly. Yeah. Well, yeah, that was a weird conversation. It

552
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:12,480
seems like everybody's leaning Chauncey or Huey, and the Americans are kind of throwing

553
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,159
out some names. The non Americans
are kind of throwing out their names,

554
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,719
and they're kind of negotiating with each
other behind the scenes. I like that

555
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,960
we get some insight and how all
this stuff works. But it was a

556
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,960
little much too these ninety minute episodes, we might see a little too much.

557
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:32,440
Does that ta guess the nominations?
Well, yeah, it's still deliberate,

558
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:36,039
Like this is when they moved to
deliberation, when they're all standing this

559
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:40,480
in a ariad talking about who should
go in, And this is when hue

560
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:44,719
kind of cuts who. I can't
remember who was talking. I think it

561
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:50,440
might have been Kuran or Emmanuel cuts
them off, and it's like this is

562
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,920
such bullshit, like why can't why
can't people say what they want to say?

563
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,239
And this, that and the other, and then Chauncey Pool is a

564
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,119
really weird move and discis stupid.
Oh my God, decides that he wants

565
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:05,119
to kind of call a few people
out and say, you know, have

566
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:09,840
I ever done you wrong? And
that backfire is just immediately straight in his

567
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,480
face. What was his strategy here
though? Was he trying to prove how

568
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,559
loyal he is? I kind of
feel like it. I feel like he

569
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:21,480
may have forgotten in his last season
he called these people out, Yeah,

570
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:25,760
because I'd forgotten it, so it
was nice to get the reminder during that

571
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,480
season. But yes, this goes
about as poorly as you can imagine.

572
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,519
The three people that he sort of
picks out, they all say like,

573
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:36,159
yeah, you kind of fucked me
over last time we played, and he's

574
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,199
left kind of not knowing what to
say. It seems like this went very

575
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:44,079
poorly for him. It's just like
a lot of like, oh, oh,

576
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:50,000
I forgot about that. Yeah,
keeps going with it. Yeah.

577
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:52,840
I wanted to fast forward through this
part so badly just to be like,

578
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,280
I don't I don't need to see
this. I don't need to see one

579
00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,239
after another after another of just yeah, it was hard to watch. The

580
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,280
nicest one was Olivia, who was
just like, look, you messled my

581
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,400
people, you messled me. Yeah, but this is a second episode in

582
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:13,480
a row that we have had someone
just kind of like dump their ship out

583
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:15,559
right on the front porch. They
just lay it all out there, and

584
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:20,400
you're like, why are you doing
this? Just light yourself on fire man,

585
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,559
Why did you even say a thing? Because what's her face? Did

586
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:30,599
it last episode? And she got
voted in It's Yeah, it's very weird,

587
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:37,559
dumb yep Cay mentions Raven protecting Chauncey. I can't remember was that was.

588
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,480
That was after deliberations, right,
it's it's kind of been the whole

589
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,280
episode. Raven has popped in a
few times in this episode, like hearing

590
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,679
bits and pieces. Well, yeah, sorry, the dog keeps looking at

591
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:53,599
me like, hello, blame with
me. She keeps like, Raven keeps

592
00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:57,679
popping into scenes where like you can
see her on the corner where she's heard

593
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,000
a few things, and then she
scampers off to get talk to other people.

594
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,920
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not
real keen on her this season.

595
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:07,719
I wasn't real keen on her last
season either, but she seems to kind

596
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,239
of be People seem to be wising
up to the fact that she's doing this.

597
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,000
But then Kylin just tells everybody like, oh, Raven literally just ran

598
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:23,440
upstairs until yeah, and again I
wonder if that's I wonder if that's just

599
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:27,840
like him not realizing that maybe he
shouldn't say it, yeah, or if

600
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,000
it's she's protecting It doesn't seem like
she's protecting Chauncey because she's going and telling

601
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:36,239
the British, the British guys that, yeah, that was weird. Yeah.

602
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,599
So they they now have all concocted
a plan to vote for each other

603
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:44,239
to not say Chauncey's name, but
still hope Chauncey can get called in,

604
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,719
but then he won't be able to
call the British guys out. Yeah.

605
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:52,360
So that's one of the things that
the that hasn't really been They haven't figured

606
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:59,400
it out yet. The last episode, almost unanimously, the girl I can't

607
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:04,039
remember her name got voted in Jessica. She got voted in almost unanimously,

608
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:07,639
including by herself. Yeah, and
so she got to pick from any woman

609
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:13,599
up there. But the theory this
episode, or the question this episode,

610
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:16,719
is whether she got to pick from
any woman up there because everyone voted for

611
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:22,639
her, or if it's going to
be like games in the past where you

612
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:27,400
can only vote for someone from the
people who voted for you. Yeah,

613
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,880
you know, which makes no sense? It does it if you spend like

614
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,119
three minutes thinking about it, Because
okay, what if for this vote,

615
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,400
all the women vote Chauncey, all
the dudes burn their votes. Yeah,

616
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,159
yeah, Chauncy still gets voted in, but who does he get to pick

617
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:45,719
from the right? That was the
rule, So I mean that would make

618
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,480
no sense. TJ would get pissed, he would make them vote over again,

619
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,199
and he would get super mad about
it. Yeah. I mean,

620
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,320
in my head, it like to
play Devil's Advocate because it's just what I

621
00:44:55,519 --> 00:45:00,400
do. It's one of those like
in that instance, he'd still get to

622
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:06,519
pick from anybody, but if one
person, one guy, voted for him,

623
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,360
then all right, you're picking from
the guys who voted for you,

624
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,119
which well, this time it was
only one, so looks like your pick

625
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:17,199
is made. It's not. I
feel like I feel like that would be

626
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:23,239
very uh just uh random. Yeah, there would be no order to it

627
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,639
whatsoever. Yeah, it's an interesting
thought exercise, but this is never how

628
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:30,800
it's It's never gonna work out this
way. I mean it's I don't blame

629
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,840
the British guys for trying it this
one round, but it's still I mean,

630
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:36,320
if there was again, if there
was Champs in the house, they

631
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,480
would all be saying that's fucking stupid. Of course that's not how this is

632
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,320
gonna work out. But instead we
get to watch Amateur Hours. Yeah,

633
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:49,320
they're all brand new, so of
course they don't know about um. Yeah,

634
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,760
is there anything to talk about before
we just joke? No, I

635
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,159
feel like that was everything. I
do want to know what's what is Raven's

636
00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:59,519
plan here though? Is she trying
to get in with the British people or

637
00:45:59,559 --> 00:46:01,599
is she doesn't seem like she's trying
to protect Chauncey. She kind of fucked

638
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:07,760
him over it. It was a
very odd It was a very odd choice

639
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,880
for her to go running to the
Brits. Yeah, yeah, she's she's

640
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,079
really just proven herself to be disloyal
to the Americans who had sort of a

641
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:17,880
loose alliance. It seems yeah.
Oh, also, so we find out

642
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,639
that there is that this is one
thing that we didn't mention. We found

643
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:25,920
out that there is an alliance,
a kind of unspoken but kind of actually

644
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,960
spoken alliance of all of the US
people and all of the brit people or

645
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:37,639
you international people, right, and
Jay lets us know that this is what's

646
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:39,920
going on. But then Jay starts
going on about He says that there's an

647
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,760
alliance with all the US people,
and then he starts going into his alliance,

648
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:47,119
and for some reason, I was
thinking that they were the same thing

649
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,840
for a moment there. But the
people that he starts naming off Osof is

650
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,400
one of the first, and I'm
pretty sure Osof is not from the US.

651
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,719
And then he names a bunch of
other people who are also so not

652
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,599
from the US, who are international
players. And it's like, but you

653
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,360
just you just said that it was
half and half. This is not These

654
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,679
people are are not US players.
What do you mean half and half?

655
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,480
I think what he's trying to say
is that he's aligned with the American half,

656
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,920
but then he's also got some select
others. Yeah, it took me

657
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,960
a second to get there, but
it was. It was the way that

658
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,480
it was that the scene was cut
and the way that they brought it to

659
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:27,880
us that it was like, he's
like the eye of the hurricane. Yeah.

660
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:31,679
I like Jay, he is.
He's a terrible players, like politically

661
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,199
bad. He's annoying the fuck out
of me this season. Yeah, he's

662
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:38,519
but this is he does this a
lot. He kind of makes friends,

663
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:42,480
and then he's always put in a
position where he doesn't he's paralyzed because he's

664
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,639
made too many promises. I feel
like a lot of them do that.

665
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,559
Michelle has done that, He's done
that. There are a lot of people

666
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:51,280
who do that. I think they
Survivor people, you know, they know

667
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,079
how to do it for a season
because that it's on the one season is

668
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:55,519
all that matters. But on the
challenge, it's like, people, remember

669
00:47:55,559 --> 00:48:00,639
this ship man, you can't go
make it all these promises. As Chauncey

670
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:10,360
kind of all right, let's jump
into elimination. Yeah, Caroline reminds me

671
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,239
that Jay is the one that orchestrated
Mikayla's boot and Survivor. I don't know

672
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,519
if I can forgive him for that
in retrospect, you know, all right,

673
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:22,039
I should watch that season again with
my new found love of Michaela.

674
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:27,400
She runs around in her underwear that
whole season. That's great, all right,

675
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,280
So the elimination it is, I
don't remember what it was called lights

676
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,800
Well, Chauncey gets voted in.
Yes, I was gonna go through the

677
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:43,199
game first, but fine, well, and then the UK guys burn their

678
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,960
votes, and everybody's like, oh, not only do they burn their votes,

679
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:52,000
but the very first UK guy burns
his vote on James very first,

680
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,960
and I so badly, so badly
wanted to have what happened to Leroy happened

681
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,000
to him. They just all start
saying James, yeah on the on the

682
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:05,880
train. See if if if there
were vets in this house, they would

683
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,800
have done that. The moment that
I burn vote was thrown out, that

684
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,480
would have immediately said, oh,
okay, cool, I guess we're going

685
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:15,159
this way. Yep, don't have
to don't have to Ruffleney feathers in another

686
00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:21,159
way. You've already put the name
out there. I'm just following suite.

687
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,320
God, I want to bet that
happen so badly. What's the dude's name?

688
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:29,559
The guys flirt with Michelle. He's
the Brett who breaks from everybody,

689
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:31,360
and he votes for Chauncey Callum or
something like that. Oh yeah, Callum

690
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:37,840
Callum. Yeah. Ultimately Chauncey gets
a voted in and uh he gets to

691
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:44,360
pick who he wants to go against. Shocking, he picks the James.

692
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,119
Yeah, he says, well,
I know you guys were burn voting,

693
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:52,559
but yeah, I appreciated this.
I like that he went big. I

694
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:57,239
think that going Huey or somebody would
have not made a statement. James.

695
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,199
At least it makes a statement,
you know, like I'm not I'm not

696
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,920
stand I'm gonna go for the big
dude. But at the same time,

697
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,800
glamour muscles, like he only barely
pulled this one out. Yeah yeah,

698
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:14,280
well yeah, this is more of
an endurance thing than muscles, and he

699
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,760
can proves our point that if you're
big on this show, you're at a

700
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:22,599
disadvant deficit and disadvantage because the game
is not built for big dudes. Yeah.

701
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:25,480
Was it Melissa that noted it afterwards? Like, oh, that guy's

702
00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:30,079
not ready to run the final?
Yeah while it was happening. God,

703
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:32,039
that was great. Yeah, he's
like about to die from running across that

704
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:37,599
arena twenty times. Yeah, the
finals, like finals, like fourteen miles,

705
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:42,719
dude, Yeah, fourteen miles running
without any steps, yeah, or

706
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,599
like stops, you're still moving.
So this one's called mite light. That's

707
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:51,199
super name. So it's like it's
kind of like a light, right,

708
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:57,440
but not there's a wall in the
middle bright it's like light break connect for

709
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:00,360
yeah, kind of there's a wall
in the middle of the of the arena

710
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:07,360
and each guy has like twenty lights
that they have to fit into circles in

711
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:13,920
or spots in this wall, and
there are probably twelve spots per section.

712
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,719
There are three different sections, and
they have to make lines of three in

713
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:22,519
a row, and it can be
diagonal or horizontal. I don't think that

714
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:27,079
anybody made any vertically. I don't
think you could. Well, I just

715
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:30,800
I don't think that anybody had three
in a like. I think you probably

716
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,480
could have. They might have,
they were like they were like off center.

717
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,599
Oh, I think I don't think
there was a straight up and down.

718
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:42,400
Yes, you could do diagonal or
or horizontal. You have to do

719
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,599
three in a row. If you
had four in a row, then it

720
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:47,679
would count as two because you would
have the first three and then you'd skip

721
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,960
the very first light and you'd have
the second three. So you wanted to

722
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,480
get as many three in a rows
as possible. I had no idea they

723
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,360
were going to do three rounds,
no matter matter what. Why the fuck

724
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,960
do we need three rounds of this? Yeah? It was It was interesting.

725
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,000
So they did three rounds of it
and first round James came out on

726
00:52:07,079 --> 00:52:12,800
top. Second round James. First
round, James came out on top by

727
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,800
a lot. Second round James came
out on top by a few and third

728
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,519
round James. I don't James did
not come out on top. Johnsy did,

729
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:27,480
but he did not make up the
deficit, right, so James only

730
00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:31,840
won by one point. Yep.
I feel like the better version of this

731
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:39,840
game would have been time limit and
then it's you can push the opponents pieces

732
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,480
out to make three, yeah,
and you just keep going until the time

733
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:46,960
runs out, and then whoever has
the most three in a row. Yes,

734
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:52,199
totally agree. That would have changed
this completely. Yeah. They've done

735
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,440
games that are similar to that in
the past, where like they had the

736
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,719
ones where it was a bunch of
polls with things tiles that you could spin,

737
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:02,719
yeah, or like the puzzle pieces
that you had to push through with

738
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,119
your body and hold there and whoever
had the most puzzle pieces pushed on the

739
00:53:07,159 --> 00:53:12,599
other side or spun to the right, to the to their color. So

740
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:15,039
yeah, I agree with that because
that's what I thought they were going to

741
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:16,159
be able to do, that they
were going to be able to go over

742
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:21,320
and knock them through and put like
they only thought over one and I'm not

743
00:53:21,679 --> 00:53:23,320
I'm not sure why that was even
allowed to fight over that one that they

744
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,960
were I think that they could fight
over it until because there were there were

745
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,559
lines on either end of their lights, so I think they could fight over

746
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:36,079
it until those lines were lined up
on either side. I got you,

747
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,480
and the moment that it was lined
up, you were done. I see.

748
00:53:38,679 --> 00:53:43,000
Yeah. I think being able to
steal that would have really changed this

749
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:45,599
into a more of a strategic game, and it would have been more interesting

750
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:49,679
to watch it and make it,
make it thirty minutes and just whoever's got

751
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,320
the most after thirty minutes, that's
who wins. Yeah, and we watched

752
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,880
James Dive have a heart attack,
that's right, you know, kidding?

753
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,639
I you know, I also thought, like watching it, my my thought

754
00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:01,960
immediate was why are they going for
the same section? Immediately, like,

755
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,880
why wouldn't you automatically go like,
you can see these holes, you can

756
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,079
see through so you can see where
the other person is running. So if

757
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:14,320
you see them going to the very
right side, then why wouldn't you immediately

758
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,800
go to the very left side and
start filling things in on that And then

759
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,159
if they start putting stuff in there, then you can move and either block

760
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,360
them or put something in somewhere else. Yeah. So I don't know,

761
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:29,679
I found it odd that they kept
going to the same areas. Yeah,

762
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:34,000
it's this is really unsatisfying to me
too, because we didn't like their strategies

763
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,480
weren't really revealed to us. We
know who won, but we don't know

764
00:54:37,519 --> 00:54:42,599
what strategies they took or why time, you know. I mean, it's

765
00:54:42,599 --> 00:54:46,920
just it really just sounded like it. Chauncey's strategy seemed to be listened to

766
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:53,599
the people that are on the stage. Yeah, James ended up winning just

767
00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:59,280
by one. Yeah, and I
like that when they cut to his professional

768
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,519
he's like, Yep, totally killed
it. And I'm no, dude,

769
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:07,760
you almost died in the second round. What are you talking about? Yeah

770
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,519
you didn't yep. Yeah. In
cass Chauncey didn't even seem out of breath,

771
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:15,960
which yet he looked like he was
fine, and James was almost dead,

772
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,280
like laying down in the arena and
everything. It's yeah, he should

773
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,840
be embarrassed. Yeah, no kidding, Uh no, it was. It

774
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:28,159
was a other than the fact that
he ultimately won, it was a poor

775
00:55:28,199 --> 00:55:32,400
showing for James. Yeah, well
it's gonna it definitely does not give me

776
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,000
confidence for his game long term.
I was gonna say, next time they

777
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:37,519
see an endurance challenge down there,
I don't think many people are going to

778
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:45,639
hesitate to grab James after watching Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, Chancey is going

779
00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:50,440
home to Case says that she would
like to see Josh do that's oh god,

780
00:55:51,159 --> 00:55:54,800
I don't want to watch Josh do
anything. Chauncey gets to go home

781
00:55:54,840 --> 00:56:00,760
to his baby, though he does
babies are stupid. Yeah, I gotta

782
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,519
tell you, even the dad stuff
is not doing it for me this season,

783
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,199
because I just said, I know, but I'm just not invested in

784
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,159
these characters. These are like,
these are B and C line characters from

785
00:56:12,199 --> 00:56:15,320
previous seasons and now they're here and
I'm supposed to care, Like, sorry,

786
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,960
you gotta earn it, man,
Yeah, Like I just don't care.

787
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,159
Yeah, I can agree with that. I mean, I don't really

788
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:24,679
care either way, but whatever.
That was one thing. So like when

789
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:30,480
Chauncey was originally called down there and
TJ makes a comment about you know you're

790
00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:34,880
down here, but you're fighting for
your babyard something like that, and Chauncey

791
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,800
starts tearing up. I almost expect, almost thought that he was going to

792
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,719
sit there and be like, you
know, I just really miss her and

793
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,360
she's brand new and I don't know
that I can do this and to just

794
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,440
call her. I almost expected him
to do that. Yeah, I'm glad

795
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,480
he didn't. I'm glad he thought. I'm glad he did too. Yeah,

796
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:54,119
And I like him. He may
have the potential that I would like

797
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:58,360
him in other seasons, but I
need more sort of exposure to him.

798
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,079
And I just not on board with
any of these people. She seems.

799
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:07,559
I don't know, I'm not super
keen. I don't I could do without

800
00:57:07,639 --> 00:57:12,159
him, donate to see him in
future season, don't really care if he's

801
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,519
I still care. Yeah, I
can't. Wants to know who you liked

802
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:20,239
this season, Tim, I like
that man? Well? Yeah, I

803
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,639
do like Emmanuel, Yeah, and
I guess ed. I don't know.

804
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:30,400
I like Emmanuel no, Hirashio this
season is fine. Yeah, he's fine.

805
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:35,000
I wish that, like Tim needs
to get to get whittled down a

806
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,159
little bit more before he picks who
he likes the season. Big Tea,

807
00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:42,639
No, I don't like the Big
Tea retired either, like eight months ago

808
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:45,039
and then came right back. I
don't know that that rest me the wrong

809
00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:46,760
way. Did she actually retire eight
months ago? Didn't she? Was she

810
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,400
in a challenge eight months ago?
I thought her last challenge was longer than

811
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,800
that. Whenever she retired ago,
it was like pretty recent. I don't

812
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,320
like when people retire then come right
back. Wes is included in that.

813
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,159
I don't like. That drives me
nuts. If you're gonna retire, just

814
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:06,760
really really retired to come back like
several times. Yeah, he has never

815
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,199
officially said that he's retired. He's
just not. Come on. He has

816
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,039
officially said he's retired a couple of
times. He said it on one of

817
00:58:13,039 --> 00:58:16,960
the reunions for like like one a
long time ago. Yeah. Uh not

818
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:20,679
Melissa, no U. Melissa's fine. I don't know. All these people

819
00:58:20,719 --> 00:58:23,000
are just sort of fine. They're
fine background characters. You know what we

820
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:29,519
needed though, we needed like a
Tony or like like a Cory. We

821
00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:31,719
needed somebody on this that's been through
a bunch of tass. Every time TJ

822
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,320
says Corey, I think Corey.
I think that it's our Corey, not

823
00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:40,400
new Corey and it. But there
are non every time non champs Nelly,

824
00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:44,320
who I know is not going to
ever be on the show and again,

825
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,320
but there's like non champs that have
done Kyle, you know, done four

826
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,960
or five seasons that I really like
and that I could relate to and that

827
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,519
I'd be excited to see on the
show. But have it won? Where

828
00:58:52,519 --> 00:58:58,800
are they? Why are all these
if this show is that they wanted people

829
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:05,320
that have done least one season but
are still relatively unknown, so that we

830
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,559
have I don't like that. I
know I don't like that. I know

831
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,599
that we don't like that. But
they're trying to appeal to a younger audience.

832
00:59:10,679 --> 00:59:15,159
We have been watching the show for
a really long time. Younger audiences

833
00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:17,480
felt by into the old characters like
we do. But if they can get

834
00:59:17,519 --> 00:59:23,159
people in a little bit too that
are newer, then maybe they understandngevity.

835
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,360
I get it, but it's sorry, go ahead movie, So you wanted

836
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:34,519
to pick you wanted to big veteran
return is what you wanted, Like somebody

837
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:37,480
you haven't seen a long time.
But I feel like they just would have

838
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:42,159
been ganged up on right away,
especially if it's only like one of maybe,

839
00:59:42,199 --> 00:59:45,679
but that's I like, that's what
I need. That's the I watched

840
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:49,039
the challenge because it keeps bringing back
the people that I like. So if

841
00:59:49,039 --> 00:59:51,840
you take the challenge but you don't
put anybody that I like, it's like,

842
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,119
I'm just not what do I care? Then? Yeah? And well

843
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,360
you say you say you feel like
they would have been ganged up on immediately,

844
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,760
which they did in the CBS Challenge, And it was a bunch of

845
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,559
people who are from other games who
know how to kind of do this sort

846
01:00:02,639 --> 01:00:07,559
of thing, and they still after
like episode three, they stopped getting ganged

847
01:00:07,639 --> 01:00:09,599
up on. Yeah, And I
had a feeling if you put if you

848
01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:15,280
put a vet in with what I
would can still consider a bunch of rookies.

849
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:19,760
I hate that this, Like you
are no longer a rookie if you've

850
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,280
only done one season. No,
you were a rookie until you've done like

851
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:27,199
three or four. If you put
a vet in a house even I think,

852
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,320
Yeah, if it were one,
yes, they get ganged up on

853
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,719
immediately, but if you put like
three or four in there, I think

854
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,920
they could probably run the house pretty
easily. Yeah. K brings up a

855
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,039
couple of other names, Fessi,
Amanda, Nanni, Anissa, Leroy.

856
01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:44,239
All these players could have been on
this season. They've never won one.

857
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:46,559
And but again, I would have
been excited to have with some people that

858
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:51,360
I know and like. Yeah,
old old fans like us would have been

859
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,280
excited about it. But they're trying
to appeal to a younger audience. That's

860
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:58,239
dumb. Throw throw me who I
like MTV. Otherwise I'm gonna bash your

861
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,719
fucking bullshit show every everything you may. I think you may have mentioned this

862
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:07,639
last episode that there it seems kind
of like MTV's floundering a bit and might

863
01:01:07,719 --> 01:01:12,880
not be around for much longer.
Tim brought that up. Okay, yeah,

864
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,119
it's in the Challenge fandom. That's
everybody's saying. Forty is going to

865
01:01:15,159 --> 01:01:19,840
be the last MTV season that will
just move to CBS and the Challenge MTV

866
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,000
will be gone forever. Yeah,
so we'll see. And yes, K

867
01:01:24,199 --> 01:01:29,239
says the premiere was the lowest rated. Maybe every Yes, nobody's watching this

868
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,000
season because it is horrible and they
don't have anybody that we like. And

869
01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:37,960
they start telling three days after,
five days after the previous season ended.

870
01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:40,360
Yeah, on the same time and
night as Survivor. These guys are out

871
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,199
of their fucking minds. There are
a bunch of shows that are happening at

872
01:01:44,199 --> 01:01:46,840
the same time. They get it's
a few of the Bravos shows are happening

873
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,360
at the same time. They Yeah, they picked a bad night for it.

874
01:01:51,679 --> 01:01:57,280
Yep. Sometimes yeah, Hey,
everybody head over to challenge by dot

875
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,079
com. Joined the Facebook group also
pats hum but I don't know if we

876
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:07,639
finish. Oh yeah, Chauncey goes. Uh. You can also a patron

877
01:02:07,719 --> 01:02:10,320
people give it a joint a patronip
all right. We only have one tier.

878
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,920
Guys. It's five dollars a month. You get access to the discord

879
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,840
that Wolfy and I hate watched the
show on. You can do that every

880
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:21,440
week with us. It's very fun. Uh. You can listen to pre

881
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,360
shows after shows, literally years and
years worth of content. That's always fun.

882
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,519
And of course we say your name, so thank you to Ainsley,

883
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:31,199
Alvin, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Greg, Jamie Joker, Julie Martez,

884
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,440
Patti Roldan, Ryan, Sam,
Sarah, Sarah, Scott, Seth

885
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:45,639
Scheck and Stans. Everybody reviews we'll
find then it's up doing any reviews.

886
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:52,159
No, still, no, Zach, do we have any social media stuff?

887
01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:55,079
Well, Zak is in here.
I also haven't seen anything this week.

888
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:00,119
I have noticed though that there it
seems like MTV is really pushing for

889
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:05,199
Olivia and Harassio to be the new
faces of the Challenge. They have been

890
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:09,119
in a lot of the ads and
things for it. Yeah, can you

891
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:13,199
blame them? They're both beautiful people. Yeah, but there are a lot

892
01:03:13,239 --> 01:03:15,599
of other people you could put in
there. I'd be fine with either of

893
01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:19,840
them being the face, but it
seems like they lack the edge, you

894
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,119
know, it seems like the faces
have an edge to them. They seem

895
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:28,280
they seem a little soft. They
could have used James and a Tidy Whitey's

896
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:34,000
as some of the advertisement because some
of that female fandom. Then Carolyn wants

897
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:40,119
to know we're watching House Villains.
I watched the first episode. I think

898
01:03:40,199 --> 01:03:44,519
Tim did as well. Zach.
I think Zach is keeping up on it.

899
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,920
I don't know, it's it's too
much drama like drama, drama,

900
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:57,719
drama and over not even overproduced like
over acted drama. It's tryhards. Yeah,

901
01:03:58,199 --> 01:04:01,159
thank you a bunch of try hard
with it. And I just I

902
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,679
watched these shows because I want to
see I want to see the gameplay.

903
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,320
Yeah. Yeah, it's a little
too trash even for me. I watched

904
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,199
the first two episodes and it's I
have no desire to go back. I

905
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,599
think I'm that's I think I'm done
with that one. Yeah. I did

906
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,760
have a dream about it awkwardly the
other night. Yeah, it is awkward

907
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:25,719
as weird. I've forgotten about that
and just remembered and it was weird.

908
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,840
We don't care that. I'm Arosa
used to walk by Wolfe's desk at work.

909
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,519
Oh yeah, You've mentioned that every
episode because I think it's unbelievably weird,

910
01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:35,440
and Wolfe's just like, oh,
yeah, she's there sometimes. It's

911
01:04:35,519 --> 01:04:40,079
weird. It's weird. I've talked
to her. Yeah, it's weird.

912
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:45,119
Did she say google it? Google
me? Oh, it's a lot of

913
01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:48,559
it's mostly like, hey, we're
gonna go We're going to go out to

914
01:04:48,599 --> 01:04:51,039
have dinner. Is the door going
to be opened so we can get back

915
01:04:51,079 --> 01:04:54,639
in and I say, yes,
it is, I will still be here

916
01:04:55,239 --> 01:05:00,599
and that is. That is the
discussions I have had with her door man.

917
01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:05,079
No, my old position, I
would work late, and so if

918
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:09,559
people come up and buzz the door, I'm the only one in the building,

919
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:14,599
so it goes right into my department
and they would have to decide to

920
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:18,760
let people in. Ornet, I
don't work in that department anymore, Doman,

921
01:05:20,239 --> 01:05:24,559
I don't work I don't work in
that department anymore nine to five or

922
01:05:24,639 --> 01:05:31,119
now. But it's okay because our
station's hemorrhaging cash and we're not producing that

923
01:05:31,199 --> 01:05:34,719
show for a while, so it's
gonna be all right. So no,

924
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:41,159
I'm a Rosa for a while.
Bum D Tim, I have cameras for

925
01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:45,719
you in my car of cameras are
gonna give up. It's gonna give them

926
01:05:45,719 --> 01:05:51,760
to you lunch and you uh decked
out? Well, good chump, blah

927
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:57,280
blah blah, Hey everybody. Uh
Nope, that's it. Uh for this

928
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,920
episode of Challenge, this has been
bro B Go Go Sweet Tea, Carlin

929
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:08,360
san Diego and as Kylon said.
The problem is isn't people not doing their

930
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,920
best. It's that not everyone's best? Is is that everyone's best isn't the

931
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:19,360
same. I can't even be it
out will be Charlie, Charlie