WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:29.039 Weird things happened in the back yard. Wow, I questioned a lot of 2 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:33.880 things. Yeah, my parents. Uh. The certain things that they did 3 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:39.159 teach us is is to speak up if you don't if you're in your heart, 4 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.920 if it doesn't feel like something that you understand, speak up, ask 5 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:46.920 questions. Uh, it doesn't make you an idiot. Um to ask questions 6 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:50.320 if anything, you're gonna learn something. You might not have to always agree 7 00:00:50.320 --> 00:00:55.079 with people, but um, it's always good to hear other people's uh story 8 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:58.759 because music has been a blessing for me to be able to travel the world 9 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:03.840 and be around many of cultures. And the cool thing about culture is like 10 00:01:03.959 --> 00:01:07.920 everybody's the same. It's just we got different characters and just different locations. 11 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:12.959 But pretty much we're all essentially trying to figure out this thing called life, 12 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:21.879 and we're in this weird information era where we're all relearning shit. They're like, 13 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:25.760 wait a second, that wasn't even right, Like I wasn't even like 14 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:30.200 wait, you guys were lying on us the whole time. And to me, 15 00:01:30.599 --> 00:01:34.599 I came up in a like my mom's side of a family very religious, 16 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:41.799 so I got that whole, you know, the religion aspect and like 17 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:46.280 my dad's side of the family, Like they're like that really religious. They 18 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.439 all kind of got into a late life. But I've just been around a 19 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.000 lot of like that, Like you know what I'm saying, the traditional idea 20 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:56.359 of life, and in Pittsburgh is very just traditional as well. So it's 21 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:01.680 like the the idea of what life is. It's a low ceiling yea. 22 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:07.840 And for me, I have too many fucking questions, Like I just too 23 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:15.080 many questions. And I'm married to a woman who's all into spirituality. So 24 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:22.879 um, my life has been like flipped upside down in a positive way with 25 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:27.520 my wife because uh, dude, Ryan, she would be in here like 26 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.039 stray, y'all have all being here on that synchronicity of just spirituality stuff. 27 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:35.360 And like I'm still getting too it late. But uh, for me, 28 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:44.199 it's it's really a great thing to see somebody else, not one person like 29 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.800 your dad. Uh. It's kind of like this guy named Ray Stanford. 30 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:51.919 It's a joke to being my other engineer producer who I like kind of like 31 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.599 mentor prea. We found this guy randomly. He's like a marine biologist, 32 00:02:55.599 --> 00:03:00.240 but he's not h he doesn't have a degree, but he's like he's I'm 33 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:02.639 raised they ever, plain and simple, no PhD. And it's like he 34 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:06.879 does his own thing and he does it because he wants to. And it's 35 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:08.479 like I feel like your dad is like similar to that, Like he has 36 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:12.360 he has like no gain for this, like he just naturally likes this, 37 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:23.240 and it's like he's just informing people and they the persuasion of falsity put on 38 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:25.840 people's heads. That is like I can see how your dad's is that scares 39 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:30.680 people. But if you're really looking at spirituality and science, it's on the 40 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:35.080 same stick, just like this joy. It's like here's God, here's fucking 41 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.800 like science. And we're like if we're talking about the spirit, that's Adams 42 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:42.719 like you know what I'm saying and I do. Hey, quick quick question. 43 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.000 Um, you've been spent some heat? Are you okay? If we 44 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:53.000 keep the last few minutes and we just like R started, I'm gonna let 45 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:54.800 you. I'm gonna let you. You don't need an introduction for me? 46 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:59.400 How would you like to for those who are tuning into our show right now 47 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:02.759 and they're not aware of you, what's like, how would you introduce yourself? 48 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:05.120 And then we can pick back up on some game that you've been spitting 49 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:11.639 so if I would do how every interview always introduced my name, Ricky Peter 50 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.480 One and only the man in amer can't even clone me, you know, 51 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:20.959 saying see, I'm from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I am an audio engineer, 52 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:28.240 producer, writer, artist. I'm part of Taylor Gang, most assigned the 53 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:34.519 Sony BMG. I made most of my uh acclamations were working with Whiz Khalifa. 54 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.639 Shout out my boy Wiz. He was the one who gave me like 55 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:44.920 my first real um doing this thing called music and at a professional level. 56 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:50.879 And I am now a dad that I like Avid first, so that all 57 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:56.079 that shit is cool. But the day that I became a father is whenever 58 00:04:56.199 --> 00:05:00.160 like the most achieved things I've ever done. Even though I am five I'm 59 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:09.800 Grammy nominated Diamond, tell them, tell him five times Grammy nominated Diamond Engineer, 60 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:16.279 tell them and through the graces of God's spirituality of whatever you want to 61 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:20.279 call it, because I'm not I'm not uh you know, I don't chastise 62 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:26.480 anybody. But through the graziness of the Higher Power, I'm here and through 63 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:30.639 the beauty of music, I'm able to be here in the bled So said, 64 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:33.959 so, being that I met through a fit similar friend of ours Tom. 65 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:39.639 Shout out Tom Barber, Tom Barber, my guy, and we are 66 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:44.240 now here about to talk all this shit because most people just think it's stream 67 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.199 pot Like. No, actually super into what you guys are doing, shout 68 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:53.639 out bled So said, so for having me, You're the man. I'm 69 00:05:53.680 --> 00:05:57.319 just geeked up right now. I feel like I'm like, wait, am 70 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.639 I supposed to act? Like? Right now? You have yourself? Man, 71 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.160 you be yourself. I have a I have I have a question. 72 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.920 Um, So, as far as you mentioned that you grew up with like 73 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:11.639 a religious like kind of you know, background and that kind of stuff, 74 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:15.480 that's something that Ryan and I can both relate to for sure. Um, 75 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:20.199 do you feel like that started to change or evolve or whatever you would call 76 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:26.879 it after you started traveling the world or was that more when you also mentioned 77 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:30.160 your wife? Was it more when you you met your wife? I say, 78 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:39.120 uh, from childhood too, like teenage years, I always kind of 79 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:46.519 questioned a lot of things, especially with um, like religion and just because 80 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:49.879 all right, so I'm a firm believer in you need faith in something. 81 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:55.480 If not you're gonna be blinded and you're gonna live a very aimless life, 82 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:59.879 no purpose. And uh, I just grew up. I grew up around 83 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:02.079 like those really religious folks, like the people that are in church, like 84 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:05.680 not just going to church, they're part of the church then whatever, like 85 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:11.600 positions that they fucking hold and shit. And I just grew up around a 86 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:17.079 lot of judgmental people. And um, we come from humble beginnings, you 87 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:21.279 know what I'm saying. Uh, most of my family lives either party line 88 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:26.120 or like you know what I'm saying below. So it's like what we're We're 89 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:29.240 seeing these people with so much like hope and all this stuff, and it's 90 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:30.720 just like man, we're all living in this and it's like nothing really going 91 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:35.319 on. Uh It's like how can you not question? You know what I'm 92 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:39.399 saying, Like people who have so much faith in something that you know, 93 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:43.680 you could speak about it, you can't touch about it, but you you're 94 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:47.560 seeing the lack of physical evidence of what they're saying is right and how they're 95 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:51.879 living is right, and how anybody else is living is wrong. It's like 96 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:59.160 how are they wrong if they're in a better position, you know? And 97 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.680 I was always in like my parents, like they like, Pittsburgh's a crazy 98 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:09.199 city. It's predominantly white. And if you know about the history of Pennsylvania, 99 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:13.319 the border of Pennsylvania's the Mason Dixon line. That's the thirteen original states. 100 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:18.199 So you're dealing with top tier neutral slate like like racism, Like you 101 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.600 know what I'm saying, Like if we're talking, like you could drive forty 102 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.399 five minutes down the road from where I'm at and you're gonna see Confederate flags 103 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.839 and they're gonna be questioning why I'm around. Pennsylvania has the highest like per 104 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.320 capita of like KKK members and shit like that. So you're dealing with a 105 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:39.000 lot of rate like traditional weird racism. And whenever I say that, if 106 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:41.879 you don't understand, like say, even gospel, we got that from the 107 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:46.919 poor whites from you know what I'm saying, that we're running the actual slate 108 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.320 plantations. You know what I'm saying, Like we didn't we learned the Bible 109 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:54.000 from these people. We weren't learning it from the plantation owners, were learning 110 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:58.120 it from the poor whites that came from the Lower Port of England. And 111 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:03.840 so with that, like religious and like that traditional. But I just never 112 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:13.759 understood how people can live in this quote unquote higher of faith but yet very 113 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:20.480 judgmental, very like living negative. Yeah, and uh, the whole the 114 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:24.360 whole premise of you know, most major religions, and you know, Christianity 115 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:30.360 is the primary in uh, you know in America, but especially in Pennsylvania, 116 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:33.600 Pittsburgh, stuff like that, and it's you know, it's all about 117 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.960 like love thy neighbor and like we're all created equal and all, but it 118 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:43.120 doesn't show in real life. Yea, it's like in Pittsburgh, that's how 119 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.279 a lot of the red lining was, and like where areas where So it's 120 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:48.960 like my parents like we're I was grew up in an all black area for 121 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.759 like the talk about like five or six, and then our parents like kind 122 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:56.240 of put their little money together. This is whenever like ninety five, whenever 123 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:01.159 credit was just not even a full thing where because you know, credit didn't 124 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:03.720 come around until nineteen ninety four, wasn't a full thing until nineteen ninety six. 125 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:07.960 My parents put us in an area where it went from all black to 126 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.519 all white, and so I got introduced to a lot of different things, 127 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:16.559 a lot of different you know, cultures that I was quote unquote you know, 128 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:22.080 triggered in kind of like scared of because my parents in like my parents 129 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.639 family, they grew up in segregation like white black like you know what I'm 130 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:28.639 saying, like where you can't go certain places like my dad, like my 131 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:33.360 mom, like they literally had, you know, places where they couldn't go 132 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.480 because they were black. So it's like when we came out to hear it's 133 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.639 like, man, oh shit, like these are kind of the people that 134 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:41.120 we were told like to kind of be weary of. You got to walk 135 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:43.559 a certain way so you're not in like intimidating and ship. But it's really 136 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:48.799 it's like not and at certain times. But being that we came out to 137 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.679 that area, I was introduced to so many like different types of music. 138 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.279 And whenever I got introduced to that stuff, it was like, you know, 139 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:03.519 I started into like like how I said, I found I know it's 140 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:07.440 not in the clip, but I'm at my parents' house we found my original 141 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:11.840 drum setting bass. But I was playing football and my friend Buddy, his 142 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:15.720 dad was in a cover rock band. They played like a whole bunch of 143 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:20.200 Leonard Skinner oh much just like Fleetwood Mac and stuff like that, and the 144 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:24.200 bass player would always just like miss the fucking sessions, and he taught me 145 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:28.440 out to play Sweet Home Alabama. From then on, I started going down 146 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:33.799 this wormhole of other music and getting into like other bands like seven Dust and 147 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.840 Corn and like, you know, the whole new metal wave was coming around 148 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:41.240 that time. So I got into this ship and like dude, I got 149 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:43.480 by the time I was like fourteen, I had like almost like a half 150 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:48.279 sleeve my like my family was like calling me like the devil. He didn't 151 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.799 whoa like shit, like I'll never forget. Like they all came over and 152 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.799 like did this like prayer meeting, like intervention where hitting oil and shit, 153 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.440 like we're from the South. We know what you're talking about over here kind 154 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.200 of getting emotional and like they're throwing oil at you. So it's like, 155 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:09.120 oh water and it's just like it's and then mean that's traumatic, you know, 156 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:16.080 it really is, you know. So I always started I started questioning 157 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:18.399 things. I'm like, man, so how is it like that you're trying 158 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:20.600 to tell me I'm living wrong? But like you're over here just straight judging 159 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:24.519 me and you know my body, like you're my family, like you know 160 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:26.720 where my heart sat and how I was like all this shit. But yeah, 161 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:30.799 just because I'm listening to a certain type of music and i put some 162 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:33.639 ink on my skin. Now all of a sudden, you're you're you're scared. 163 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:37.759 Like it's like, oh my god, he's showing all the signs of 164 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:41.759 like devil working. It's like, no, that's like how is that? 165 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.960 So? So I kind of lived like an early early portion of my life 166 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:48.960 like into like you know, very religious and like you know, um, 167 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.039 even until I met my wife, I was like, you know, just 168 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.120 like you know what I'm saying, God this, God that, And it's 169 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:56.759 like I'm still believing a higher power. You know. It doesn't look like 170 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:01.200 the picture that they tell us. I don't think so, right, but 171 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.799 um, I believe that's where the information era where we're in now where it's 172 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:13.639 like man, we can actually hear and see other people's testimonies or like their 173 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:20.360 their experiences and their viewpoints like HD Now, so yeah, how how can 174 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:26.360 I be a person who considers themselves trying to learn a lot? Like cutting 175 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:28.960 that off? So it's like where I'm at now, I'm like, man, 176 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:35.600 I'm open to a lot of things because so just because my wife doesn't 177 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.039 believe in God, that doesn't mean she's a bad person or that she's like 178 00:13:39.200 --> 00:13:43.639 a fucking sinner, you know what I'm saying, But that if you come 179 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:48.519 from religious household, that's what it is. Yeah, you're you're done. 180 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:54.000 Hell. Yeah you're going to Hell. You're there, Yeah, you're already 181 00:13:54.039 --> 00:14:03.120 there. Yeah, Like I couldn't have been around the witch trials. Time's 182 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:07.639 got Turnham. It's funny, man, because like that experience you had with 183 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:11.759 um, like growing up listening to like so to speak, like bumping into 184 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:15.279 you know, white kids in the white neighborhood and getting like rock and roll, 185 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.200 we kind of had like a mirror but opposite experience getting into hip hop 186 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:24.600 as little kids. I can imagine you got in the metal I don't know 187 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:28.159 if you're familiar. Well, of course, of course you're in the music 188 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:31.960 industry. We're from Fayetteville. We're from Fayettville, which you know there there 189 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:35.799 is a big hip hop scene. There's also a large black population, like 190 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:43.840 in fact, I mean I think it was probably fifty fifty sixty. Yeah 191 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.840 that that honestly makes sense. And so yeah, yeah, that was I 192 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:50.600 think the equal and opposite exchange is the perfect way to describe it. You 193 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:56.519 know, I grew up on like classic rock and got into metal at a 194 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:58.120 young age and all that stuff. But as soon as it was like middle 195 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:03.320 school and high school, oh bro, middle school changed my whole life. 196 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:07.120 I'm not even gonna lie because it was all funk, all like you know, 197 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:13.519 Michael Jackson soul, same b um. And it was like my parents 198 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.960 my dad really only listened to certain hip hop like kind of like New York 199 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:22.120 stuff, and my mom was really just like a soul funk old school like 200 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:26.960 Ohio Players, commodorees, Um Roger and zap Uh you know what I'm saying 201 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.240 type. Like, So well I got the middle school, like my older 202 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:37.279 cousins started getting into like U g K three six Mafia. Yeah, like 203 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:39.240 Dark Wrap, which is very like, you know, similar to a lot 204 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:46.639 of like metal. I was as dark, like you know, imagery of 205 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:48.639 it. So it's like it was kind of like weird because like right as 206 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:52.480 I started getting introduced to like like the down South like kind of like you 207 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:58.480 know what we would consider now trap music, right, yeah, I was 208 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:03.600 getting introduced to classic rock also to um like kind of like the mainstream rock 209 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.600 of like you know, like the chapels and all that shit too. Literally, 210 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:10.240 like I said, I got deep dove right into new metal because Limp 211 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:14.240 Biscuit was like one of my favorites because like they mashed like both sides. 212 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:18.440 I love, like you know what I'm saying, So like the new album's 213 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:22.000 good too. Oh bro Fred Durst, I love that guy. Yeah, 214 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:25.559 yeah, it's interesting. I find so many Me and Ryan talk about that 215 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:33.200 all the time. How there are glaringly obvious like similarities between metal music and 216 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:37.360 hip hop music. Yeah, especially like like you're saying, like the more 217 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:41.799 trap side of hip hop music. If you look at the scales, chord 218 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:47.919 progressions, same tempos and the rhythms, bro Ya, the same thing and 219 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.159 the emotions for sure, for sure the same thing. Like how you said, 220 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.120 it's like the mere thing. It doesn't like it's just you're just switching 221 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:59.320 characters. It's still the same plot. It's just like it's like the movie 222 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:02.360 Scream and Scare very movie. It gets still the same thing that they turn 223 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:04.720 out differently, but it's still the same thing when you like put it in 224 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:08.519 the pot. So that's whenever it was like you know, for me, 225 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:11.519 that's where you start getting in this stuff, and it's like I started getting 226 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:15.799 even heavier, like from like like I said that new like metal era, 227 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:18.640 so it's like Glympus get corn. Then I started getting to like seven Dust 228 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:22.920 and because like, dude, you see the black guy. Dude, what 229 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:26.960 because you know they're already looking at me crazy, like you know why you're 230 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:33.839 listening to Pan Terror, you know they're con I was watching ECW. Come 231 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:36.680 on, bro, Like when you're sitting there talking about walk like, come 232 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:45.960 on, he's playing with a rebel flag guitar. It's just like, oh 233 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:49.599 what it's like once again, if you're talking about history, those were the 234 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:55.920 same white motherfuckers with us. They were just they just got a little money, 235 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:59.119 but they lived the same way, exactly like they looked the same way. 236 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:02.240 Y'all got a job on the thing, but y'all were still just as 237 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.880 poor as us. Ye you know. So it's like if you still think 238 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.200 about the history, if you think about all that stuff, the shit is 239 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.359 still like we're still the same area. It's just you know, we're one's 240 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:15.480 cooking the chicken thigh, the other one's cooking the chicken breast. It's still 241 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:23.880 Yeah, I wanted to uh, since you talked about like your fascination growing 242 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:27.359 up into metal, and you know, we can get more into the whiz 243 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:30.720 stuff and your your professional background producing. But what I really want to talk 244 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:36.720 about now and show some love is your post hardcore band. Yes, yes, 245 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:40.799 yes, yes, yes, shout out my boy baby. We got 246 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:45.079 our band fall Forever. It's actually ironically it's the name of the first band. 247 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.240 And like I was like serious and uh that we were literally just post 248 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.079 hardcore. We just got out of being like a kind of like a like 249 00:18:52.119 --> 00:18:56.200 all of us were in kind of like punk rock bands, kind of like 250 00:18:56.279 --> 00:19:02.160 situation, and um, I just heard about because I was in eighth grade. 251 00:19:02.880 --> 00:19:06.519 I was in like the stupid ass fucking cover band that we won like 252 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:11.160 the middle school, like like the eighth grade like Tallet's it Go. And 253 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.079 that prompted like these two other dude, Evan Venturella and my boy Josh Clue 254 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:19.440 to like they were kind of getting into like Thursdays and like kind of like 255 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:22.960 you know that kind of like hardcore, and like so I was like, 256 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:26.759 what is this? We started like this, yeah, because like I mean, 257 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:30.680 Thursday is still technically hardcore. Was in that full Collapse album that is 258 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:34.240 straight hardcore, halotic hardcore, like you know what I'm saying, because like 259 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:40.319 we started getting out of like there's just straight screaming without like just no care 260 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:42.279 because like their screamings were just offsetting. So that's where I feel like the 261 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:47.400 post hardcore started like growing at that time. But like, uh, the 262 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.359 band that we started, we were all like that was like our first series 263 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:53.799 we started, which ironically we're I wasn't seeing Talk the Chelsea Grin Show. 264 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:57.160 We were performing there at Mister Smalls and like we're like, oh, we 265 00:19:57.200 --> 00:20:00.480 can do this. But then that when metal core hit and it was like 266 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:04.400 bro, all of us just went to like this metal hall metal bands. 267 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:10.519 And that's whenever I just started going even crazy. So that first band that 268 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:12.799 was like the original kind of like wave, that's what was like, Uh 269 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:18.200 that that name, it's just it embodies the mood of the music I make 270 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:22.640 whenever I do make that stuff, and uh, that's my first sound because 271 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:25.559 like I was in bands throughout middle school. In high school, I was 272 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:27.640 just playing football and like I came from a black family, none of them 273 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:33.160 understood what the funk I was doing. And in the weird synchronicity of it 274 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:36.200 all, it's like, you know, I'm seeing Tom there. We were 275 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.000 playing shows there and like the homie that I was in the band that was 276 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:44.440 like the my last metal core band, he was there at the show and 277 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:45.759 it was kind of like one of those crazy things and it was like that 278 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:51.160 was Tuesday and the Friday, m my dad at a retirement party and like 279 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:55.440 my dad, my granddad's last two siblings or my aunt Betty and Alt Virginia 280 00:20:55.759 --> 00:21:00.640 ninety one and ninety and they came to my last metal core show and they 281 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:04.000 all talk about it to this day. They will never let it go. 282 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:07.160 Like my real name is Mackenzie said, like, Maxie, you never had 283 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:11.240 time we went down there. You're man, And it's like, yes, 284 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.640 I remember when I had my old aunties in there, and there's this just 285 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:18.640 mod fit of just a whole bunch of people screaming face and they just had 286 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:23.000 their like these paper towels in their ears and they're just like just going along 287 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:26.920 with it. I'm just like, bro, this is the wildest ship in 288 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:32.799 the world. I heard the Pittsburgh accent come out a little bit when they 289 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:37.359 if I called them right, Maxie, do they say did they say YenS? 290 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:42.680 Oh? YenS, what are you up there doing? Okay, hey 291 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:52.359 hey Maxie doing back. He's going to the Giant Eagle. Eagle its eg 292 00:21:53.079 --> 00:22:00.160 for sure. Just imagine just taking sawdust and just putting it into somebody these 293 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:04.160 voice box. That is a Picksburgh accent. Like it's just oh, it's 294 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:11.440 a it's a bunch of cheese. It's it's not a good accent. I 295 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.279 want to say, it's it's an entertaining accent for sure. You're just like 296 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:19.839 you understand this, Yeah, exactly. It's like almost like a it's like 297 00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:26.880 a northern boom hoower. All right. We don't say sour is sur like 298 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:33.319 it is. That's like a northern sun hower. It's like I said, 299 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:37.480 the Mason Dixon line north and south. So we got a lot of those 300 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:41.279 people that were coming up here that lit in and just you know, it's 301 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:42.799 a really good place. So it's like, you know, you get a 302 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:48.200 whole bunch of people who don't leave Picksburgh and like it's just a it's a 303 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:52.359 punch of cheese, And like when I get around here, it just comes 304 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:55.559 back up like oh yeah, never leave. But yeah, my post hardcore 305 00:22:55.640 --> 00:23:00.200 band fall Forever Our Next said Fault is it fall to Fall? No, 306 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:03.720 No, Fall of Forever, Fault of Forever. Okay, everybody that's listening 307 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:08.200 on Instagram, fall of Forever, Yes, follow us. Um, shout 308 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:14.319 out my boy baby. He was in um he was in some scream up 309 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:18.799 bands too back in the day, but um he went to the urban world. 310 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:23.200 Uh started, he's started writing for people for like Wayne uh Jay. 311 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:26.759 Yeah, he was signed uh to Young Money for a bit for management. 312 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:33.279 Yeah he uh he's super talented. Brog too, right, Yeah, yep, 313 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:38.759 yep. Shout out Juice he was, Yeah, will my manager Coner 314 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:42.839 Taylor Gang. He is a power play guy, always putting a lot of 315 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:47.839 people in the right position. But um hell, our band was kind of 316 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:51.119 like one of those things. It's just I've done everything in the urban world 317 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:55.799 that be honest with you, that I put up on there, like goal 318 00:23:55.920 --> 00:24:00.720 list, I guess, besides winning a Grammy so platinum, correct me if 319 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:03.720 I'm wrong here, but you know you you did see you again with Wizz 320 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:10.759 and Charlie Pooth. Yeah, I engineered that engineered Um so so for for 321 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:12.799 a dummy like me who's not a producer. What does that specifically mean? 322 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:18.440 You engineered that? So the guy who's the engineer. Um there's a tracking 323 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.000 engineer, which y'all was on that record. Um there's a mixed engineer like 324 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:26.880 or like actually a range engineer who guys just kind of like gets everything right 325 00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:30.880 on that ship. Mixed guy or a mastering guy. Um, that's who 326 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:34.359 I was. I was the guy who was recording the vocals. And that 327 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.799 was a movie song, So I don't know if you know about like seeing 328 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.039 placements and stuff they have, like they submitted to like a million people. 329 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.039 Like when we got that, Charlie wasn't on the hook even though he wrote 330 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:47.440 the hook and did the original reference. Um, we got it. It 331 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:49.519 was like Trey Songs was on the hook and then like Chris Brown was on 332 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.599 a version, so it was like Trey Songs out a version, Little Wayne 333 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.720 was on the song and somebody else. Like the version that we got. 334 00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:59.319 It was like, you know, because that's what movie role stuff is. 335 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:03.599 You just sit there and uh, they give you a little sheet you gotta 336 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.039 sync place to a movie. Well that's right. Yeah, that was part 337 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:12.480 of the fast uh forgive And that was the one where Paul Walker that whenever 338 00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:18.720 he passed away for filming that song blew up it was like extreme. It's 339 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.319 like probably one of the wildest situations ever. Um, we've been a part 340 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:26.519 of movie songs before and a couple uh like video games with the New Teenage 341 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:32.079 Movie and the Turtle Movie one whenever it came out animated one. I think 342 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:34.480 it was like twenty fourteen that movie or never TMT. Yeah, we did 343 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:38.559 a song on that one. We did a few other records for Fast Interfurious 344 00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.480 before too. But so it's like we're like just submitting. Whiz will just 345 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:45.279 do his versus. They always send you like some sheet where like they have 346 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.559 like certain keywords and phrases that they want you to like kind of incorporate into 347 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:51.839 your thing, Like you know what I'm saying, Like it's about family, 348 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.240 Like see you again was about like remembering somebody, but in a positive manner, 349 00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:57.519 you know what I'm saying. So it's like they kind of keep you 350 00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:00.000 to try to like they'll give you a few words trying to throw in there 351 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.160 and shit like that. So, um, Whiz, it was like a 352 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:07.559 crazy time for us. We were on the road heavy. Uh. He 353 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.039 had a loss in his family. Um, I lost my grandma and like 354 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:15.160 my first cousin within like two weeks and like during that time, so it 355 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.359 was like really heavy. And like when we he did his first verse, 356 00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.960 we were over at Snoop's compound, and um, it was just us. 357 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.720 So it was just me, Snoop, R I P Uncle, June Bug 358 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:30.359 and Uh Snoop's engineer and Uh Snoop's a real good mentor to Whiz and like 359 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.519 he's been a mentor to all of us, and it was just one of 360 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.039 those days. He wasn't feeling in like Will was wanting to get the verse 361 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:37.920 done, and like he just he mustered it up, wrote the shit down 362 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.000 on a piece of paper. We did it, and we submitted it and 363 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:44.039 like we just kept it moving. And then all of a sudden they're like, 364 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:45.799 yo, we want you to do another verse, which is like very 365 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.960 rare for a movie to just tell ask an artist to do another verse. 366 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:53.640 Shout out the Whiz like he he he knew the assignment, you know. 367 00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:00.480 And so when they did that that time, they took everybody else us off 368 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.559 and then they put Charlie back on and he submitted the second verse, and 369 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:08.920 then they invited us to the movie uh premier little production no oh okay, 370 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:14.759 to the production place because they got our our our vocals, the session and 371 00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:17.319 all that stuff, and then you know these guys are mixing and that doll 372 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:22.519 be fucking from shit. It's like it. Yeah, it's the craziest pro 373 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:26.279 tools set up you ever seen your fucking life. And uh it was just 374 00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:32.599 literally me, whizz Will and uh shout out constants from WMME and we were 375 00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:40.640 just over there and they showed us fucking part damn and like they were going 376 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.640 like but they were like tweaking the vocals because like they had them redo some 377 00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.400 shit, like we're like so it can match like what they were trying to 378 00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:51.400 do, and like they brought us into like play it for us because like 379 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.960 they respected Whizzes. I guess like, uh, you know a okay with 380 00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:56.559 his voice and how everything like you know what I'm saying was going, and 381 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.599 bro they played us the scene. You know everybody that this was crying. 382 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:08.400 This is crazy. And then the song just went up and broke records and 383 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:15.440 uh it changed all of our lives. Man, Uh sure changed mind and 384 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:19.000 the trajectory of like a kid from Pittsburgh's a college dropout, didn't go to 385 00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:22.839 audio engineeral school. I went out to California with like two hundred dollars in 386 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.440 my name and like you know, couch surf that I slept on a broken 387 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:32.119 foods on couch at Whizes studio house, uh and then figured it out, 388 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:36.079 bro. And so it's like to me, it was like something like you 389 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:41.599 could do this, bro, Like that's inspiring, that's fucking possible. Like 390 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:44.559 because I didn't have the easy round, I actually had the ugliest round, 391 00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:48.240 I feel like, which I will never won any other way, you know 392 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:51.160 what I'm saying, because like it wasn't in my cards, but it was 393 00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.640 like it's a testament to everybody, like you might not be number one. 394 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.279 That's okay, you might not be at in that top tier because we're talking 395 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:02.400 about like the pros, we're talking about the big leagues of music. Not 396 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.359 everybody could get there. We're talking about people who were all you know, 397 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:10.559 all in and to be able to reach those those like heights and stuff from 398 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.079 like I said, from somebody from Pittsburgh. Nobody comes and sees us like 399 00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:18.759 you know, so it it was like one of those things. It was 400 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:21.759 like, damn, bro, we could fucking do this. And it's like 401 00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:25.359 I said, it's change everybody's life. That's amazing man. I said this 402 00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:26.880 as a joke earlier. I'm not sure if this made it in the recording, 403 00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:32.839 but I said pressure makes diamonds. It does, But diamond engineer bro 404 00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:40.119 had the ugliest route. Work your way up, recording engineer, you could, 405 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:44.200 you could do it. I'm a diamond, uh engineer. I'm a 406 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:49.160 diamond multi platinum fucking producer writer. Um, you know, my first hip 407 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:55.440 hop show was the Upper Smoke Tour, the legendary fucking hip hop show that 408 00:29:55.559 --> 00:30:00.799 like toward like Doctor Drakes, fucking Eminem and shit like that Snoop dog and 409 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.519 like you know, on pent On Rolling Papers too, I wrote, I 410 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:10.319 co wrote Snoop Dogg's verse. Whow So it's like when you talk about synchronicity, 411 00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.079 like, dude, to all the young homies, you could do this 412 00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.720 shit. It's it's like Wold the ship you see as a kid, like 413 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.599 in your head, your imagination from whenever you're a THEATA level thinker, like 414 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.279 it can actually fucking happen. Um, it's just like that you said that 415 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:27.680 thinker, Yes, because you know, unfortunately we only get to about seven 416 00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:32.200 due to indoctrination, because by that point you're about in second grade, you 417 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:34.440 have a whole bunch of outside opinion telling you what the fucking world is, 418 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.920 literally by a whole bunch of people who don't even know what the world is. 419 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.960 You know, because your life is only made up by people who don't 420 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.799 know shit, like my parents, Like you know, like my life is 421 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.759 like as a child, like we think about it like your like your life 422 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:49.279 is only made up by people that are no smarter. You don't, I'll 423 00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:52.119 clarify, like that are no smarter than you. You know what I'm saying, 424 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.839 Like my parents are smart people, but like we have more information than 425 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.319 they do. So it's like I had, like I'm smarter than my parents 426 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:04.559 due to the information and I have likewise, like my son, my son 427 00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.319 is like eighteen months and this dude is do it all types of show, 428 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:12.319 But did you learn this shit? It's like they get. It's like the 429 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:17.680 coding and it's like when you think about they level thinking, that's what they 430 00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:21.680 say you have the highest um imagination. So that's why kids can think of 431 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:26.000 rock it's like a ball or some wild ass shit. It's because of the 432 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.200 energy so um. In order to really be happy in life, you have 433 00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:37.400 to find a way back to that and unfortunately we have a lot of things 434 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.720 that distract us. And where I'm at my life, I'm I'm healing my 435 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:47.319 childhood trauma, like you know what I'm saying, Like because becoming a parent, 436 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.720 it taught me that, like you have to repair it yourself. There's 437 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:59.079 a lot of things that we as adults, we perpetuate due to like we 438 00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:04.400 perpetuate these actions, these feelings, these things because from our theta level thinking 439 00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:09.440 we are missing something, like there's some type of trauma that we're missing, 440 00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:14.079 something that we're going to always keep going because that was the time whenever, 441 00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.839 like you know what I'm saying, nothing, there wasn't a ceiling. It 442 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:21.680 was whenever people started coming down on our worlds telling us what is this and 443 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.759 what is what? Then it's like wait a second, like is this how 444 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:30.880 I feel? Or is this not how I feel? So um yeah, 445 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.519 bro, it's like a it's like a wild thing where where I'm at at 446 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.519 least, and I feel like that's why I was able to meet people like 447 00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:43.880 you, to enter this this energy into my life, like people like Tom, 448 00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:46.640 Because if you're not trying to heal yourself, you're only gonna keep That's 449 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:50.279 why we have a whole bunch of narcissists, We have a lot of disassociated 450 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.839 parents like that. Like, you know, did you talk about you're talking 451 00:32:53.839 --> 00:33:00.000 about breaking the cycle of generational trauma? Yes, you know what I mean 452 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.960 because because easy and it's not color bound either. But you know what, 453 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.880 bro, you know what I just read recently that blew my mind. If 454 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.880 you do this, which I think you will, I think we're in an 455 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:14.079 age now where a lot of us are going to do it. You know, 456 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:15.680 it's that time. And if you do this, and if you break 457 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:21.680 your generational trauma, for all of recorded history, you will be the ancestor 458 00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:27.759 that saved your bloodline from those curses of trauma. You see what I'm saying. 459 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.559 That's why did you say that? Because my wife was like, uh, 460 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:34.279 funny, It's like what do they mean by like keeping the bloodline strong? 461 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.559 And I was like, well, certain people were talking about incests, 462 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:43.440 but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about but trauma, talking about 463 00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.720 like I was like to saying, like as a joke, but a yeah 464 00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:49.000 for sure. Trying to say is what we're trying to do is coming together 465 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.240 and really trying to make the family better, you know, and that's how 466 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.559 break. Like when you break these things, these cycles, It's like, 467 00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:00.359 um, I understand where I'm at because like as a parent, I became 468 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.640 a parent, I started seeing like my dissociation to certain things, and then 469 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.960 I had to go back to like my childhood trauma. It's like, damn, 470 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.280 I was a lash key kid. You know what I'm saying. I 471 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.519 don't know if you know what that term is. Yeah, those are the 472 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:15.440 kids whom grew up threw themselves up, Like I had a key to the 473 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.440 house at five years old. Oh okay, because like I came home to 474 00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:21.400 an empty house, like you know, your parents, like my parents came 475 00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.519 up in that era where two household unfortunately bought into the propaganda of separating the 476 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:28.199 household, that like, you know, women are just as equal as us 477 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.039 in the workfield bullshit like, which they're just really much trying to attack somebody 478 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:36.000 else in the house and they couldn't tax and they were trying to work to 479 00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.079 give us a better life. So it's like they weren't around. So it's 480 00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:42.599 like you deal with disassociation, which a lot of the quote unquote narcissis that 481 00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.000 we have is just really coming from like abusive households. Bro Like there's a 482 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:49.760 lot of trauma from a lot of people because a lot of they weren't focused 483 00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:53.039 on the proper things, like it's not always about money, like especially with 484 00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.519 my son, Like my son could give a fuck about what you buy him. 485 00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:00.239 He cares about love, He kids, about hugs with you. Yes, 486 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:05.360 he wants like he wants you to be present and changing these things. 487 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.679 It's like I have to go back to childhood me zero to seven, you 488 00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:13.079 know what I'm saying. That's and like when we go to those timelines, 489 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.199 you think about what those times for you. It's like that's whenever life was 490 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:20.800 just so like there's no ceiling. And then from that point from seven to 491 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:25.400 about like like puberty, you're over there just emotionally just going through a whirlwind. 492 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:30.840 And if you don't have emotionally mature parents or emotionally mature family, you're 493 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:37.000 gonna like it's just gonna fray around. And I guess I'm blessed to have 494 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.559 music because it's like it brought me to all this shit. And then when 495 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:43.400 I got to my wife, She's opened my eyes to so many things. 496 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:49.039 And when we started this family stuff, man, it was like I went 497 00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.360 sober for six months, Like me and my lady got married in that six 498 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.800 months. Then it's like we we had like after we got married and we 499 00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.840 had our son, like we like you know, we're because we're already trying 500 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:01.679 and like it it was like one of those things you had our son afterwards. 501 00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.960 So it's like, okay, cool, we're doing the steps because my 502 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:07.440 family, It's like, fuck is the right of passage at eighteen? You 503 00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:13.920 already have a kid by nothing, redlocker even just like you know, not 504 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.360 even trying to start a family out of love, you know what I'm saying. 505 00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.320 Because it's not about money. It's not about all this shit, bro 506 00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:22.679 Like money, you can get money. I know a lot of rich ass 507 00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:29.639 motherfucker's upset for sure. It's because like that's not the real wealth. You 508 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.719 know, generational wealth is. You want to know what the new general like 509 00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:39.719 I feel is also generational wealth is actually emotionally mature parents. Absolutely absolutely, 510 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:44.559 if you are an emotionally mature parent, you're gonna give your kid the real 511 00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:47.079 building block to go anywhere in life. Doesn't matter what the fuck they want 512 00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:51.039 to do. They're gonna have the real confidence. They're gonna have the real 513 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.000 motivation to make mistakes and understands there's not consequences to mistakes. It's like you 514 00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.519 have to make mistakes, you have to learn from them, and like, 515 00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:01.159 you know what I'm saying. Obviously I'm not talking about actual making real bad 516 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.960 decisions, but I'm saying that it was like, if you could teach a 517 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.159 kid how to be able to regulate their emotion, to be there, be 518 00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:12.199 present, then it will be they won't have to have this anxiety and all 519 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.039 this extra shit because most of your anxiety comes from the fact that childhood you 520 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:21.320 feels like you weren't protected, right, dude, I can I relate so 521 00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:27.119 much to like literally everything you're saying. You know, I I we grew 522 00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.000 up well, I mean, like my family, we grew up like you 523 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:38.079 give me some background, Yeah, yeah, let's go. I love to 524 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:43.360 talk about my past, I really do, because I feel, um, 525 00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:47.960 like obviously where everybody's on their journey, right, but I feel uh somewhat 526 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.039 resolved with the things that happened in my childhood. But you know, we 527 00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:57.840 we we grew up like low middle class as well, like like very you 528 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.800 know, it was tight. It was all yes, you might eat, 529 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:02.400 you might eat it leftovers for three days, four days in a row. 530 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.559 Oh absolutely, Yeah, for sure. And you know Dad wasn't home a 531 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:08.880 ton because he was just always trying to work. You know, I have 532 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:14.440 I have two siblings, so you know, we were all crammed into this 533 00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:17.360 little house. He's just trying to do whatever he can. And you know, 534 00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:22.159 in many ways, I respect him so much for just grinding and just 535 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.079 providing for us. And and you know, I love I love my dad. 536 00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:30.320 We have a great relationship now. But like what you're saying, the 537 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:36.880 the emotional awareness, the relationship level, all of that stuff was was pretty 538 00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.639 bad. It was it was pretty tumultuous, and it was passed down to 539 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:45.960 him. You know, I come from a very like hard, tough Greek 540 00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:52.199 family. My dad was a command sergeant major for thirty years. Hypermasculinity in 541 00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:58.199 my household. I couldn't sit there and think about prying. No. Yeah, 542 00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:01.239 it's like yeah, and even and Ryan grew up with a lot of 543 00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.920 that too. You know. It's like like, I don't mean to laugh. 544 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.280 I have to laugh it out because yeah, you gotta laugh about it. 545 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.960 You gotta laugh about it. We laugh about it on this show. 546 00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:15.360 Yes, you gotta laugh about it because it's so hard, you know, 547 00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:17.440 like it was. I was always covered to my son. I could never 548 00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:22.960 make him feel that way, bro, like to just you're breaking, you're 549 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.840 breaking the curse. You're you're breaking, and you know that. That's why 550 00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:30.519 you know, there's still pressure on me to this day somewhat from you're a 551 00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:35.400 man. We have pressure so much on us, like absolutely we have this 552 00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:39.199 outdated rule what we have to be doing, and nobody, at least for 553 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.280 me where I'm at my life, I didn't get taught out of be a 554 00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.760 man. It was like I didn't have those dads sit down like niggas out 555 00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:49.320 there were getting having to do what he had to do, and like like 556 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:51.880 how you said, it was passed down to him. My grandparents were married 557 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:53.800 fifty nine years before my grandma passed. I kind of one hand how many 558 00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:57.440 times they maybe said I love you to each other, like you know what 559 00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.079 I'm saying. So it's like was love or dound like that, And it's 560 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.840 like most of my parents don't come from that, Like they come from a 561 00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.719 lot of like different types of like you know what I'm saying, traumas and 562 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:10.079 like you know background. So it was like brod love in our household was 563 00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:15.280 just like whoa. It was tough. It was tough, loved two boys, 564 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.199 and it was just like I can't see time to be a man, 565 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.239 but like, ah, shit, so you're just out here doing shit for 566 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:27.639 nothing. I literally had a conversation with my dad maybe three or four days 567 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.840 ago. I was over there, um and my cousin drives up with his 568 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:34.920 daughter. He has this beautiful little I think she's like a year and a 569 00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.159 half, and uh, he just turned to me and he's like, man, 570 00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.519 he's such a good dad. He's just such an amazing dad. And 571 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:45.559 my cousin's younger than me, and I said, Dad, you know, 572 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:50.480 our generation, me and my cousin, our generation, we lead with our 573 00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:57.320 heart first. That that like, we we saw all of the crazy pressure 574 00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.920 and all of the crazy you know, the things that our fathers and grandfathers 575 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:07.800 and great grandfathers did to themselves to try to quote unquote provide for their family. 576 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:09.599 And they did find that. You mean, they sat there and gasol 577 00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:16.159 at themselves in the ship home, miserable as fuck because like, like they 578 00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:22.280 still can't appease everybody, because all people just want is time exactly. That 579 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:24.320 would you think you're trying to give them and do all this ship, but 580 00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:28.119 unfortunately they have to gas like themselves and think this is what I have to 581 00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:30.880 do and all that stuff. And it's like, dude, all that one 582 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:35.880 is a fucking hug and like yeah, yeah, like a conversation, you 583 00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:38.119 know, it's like, it's crazy because we had to settle for bare minimum. 584 00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:40.440 What you're talking about is like you're essentially you're like, yo, you 585 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.000 had to deal with the bare minimum of just like getting a roof over your 586 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:50.679 head, close with your bad food and your stomach and um what your yeah, 587 00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.039 like you're not in present danger, like yoh yeah, And I was 588 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.079 told that. You know, I've been talking and I want to just put 589 00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.199 this out there. We just recently had my dad on the show. He's 590 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:06.920 undergone an amazing amazing because he, like you, he has a sun thank 591 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:09.320 you, who's like, who's thinking about these things? Like you said, 592 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:14.239 leading with his heart, letting him know like it's okay to be fucking vulnerable 593 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.559 Dad. Yeah, matter back. Most of the time when you yelled at 594 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:22.440 me, I just wanted to fucking hug and told him tripping Yeah, conversation 595 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.719 like that too. Hug me and tell me I'm fucking tripping. Yeah. 596 00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:29.199 We have conversations like that to this day. I mean, and he still 597 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:31.480 feels all this guilt And I told him. I told him on his episode. 598 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:36.320 I said, Dad, I don't even talk about that stuff with you 599 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.400 anymore, because at this point there's no point, like we got a reset. 600 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:44.599 We have to hit the reset button and have good memories, good times 601 00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:45.639 together. I was like, I hope you all hugged it out, and 602 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:51.239 oh absolutely, I just kind of thought about it, but like you almost 603 00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:53.119 hit a point when you become an adult, like our age. I mean, 604 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:58.000 we're all similar age. Okay, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not 605 00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.440 gonna be thirty, so like, yeah, yeah, you guys still so 606 00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:04.840 like we hit a point in our age where like, do you guys ever 607 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.920 feel like you're kind of parenting your parents? Yes, oh my god, 608 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:15.199 yes, like emotionally emotionally parenting your parents? Yeah. Emotionally now of course, 609 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.119 is you know what I mean. I don't mean like I'm promos for 610 00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:23.119 sure. I challenged my parents and it's been through my parenting because how my 611 00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.880 parent my son is a lead by my wife, shout on my wife, 612 00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.800 Brooklyn. I love her to life is the great mother. She sounds wonderful 613 00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:37.599 the way you speak about her. Yeah, bro, uh you know whenever 614 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.800 it's your wife. Oh yeah, I feel the same with mine and then 615 00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.800 with his. I never believed in marriage, and nor do I still believe 616 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:50.079 in marriage. But I believe in my wife. Oh wow, brownie points 617 00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:53.480 for you, right. I say it all the time. I rear my 618 00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:57.000 rings. I have like different types. I wear my rings. What does 619 00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:01.159 she do? Like? That's beautiful, but it's for the mere fact, 620 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.960 like when I was starting a family and seeing the person who she is, 621 00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:12.320 it's like, man like I I chose the right person and h with how 622 00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.280 we raise our son, we draw the line in the sand. There's a 623 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.480 lot of things out how like because my wife has challenged me so much. 624 00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.719 Shout out my wife. She's pretty much the main reason why I changed my 625 00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:24.960 whole life around, because if it wasn't for her, I'll still be caught 626 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:29.960 up in what we would be and calling the matrix. Um, I would 627 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:38.320 still be stuck in the musician industry life. And uh we she challenged me 628 00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:40.599 a lot of things because you know, as men, we often say like 629 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.440 that's how I was raised. Like if like a woman's challenging us, and 630 00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:45.599 it's like, man, n, that's how you was raised? But was 631 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:51.920 it right? Yeah? But what are you doing now? Yeah, we're 632 00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:57.079 getting that. How are you were raised? Was it right? Oh? 633 00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:00.400 You could be like you know, you could come from a certain house sold, 634 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.119 but like was that the right teaching for sure? Like you know what 635 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:07.199 I'm saying how I was handling love? Was that the right way to handle 636 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:10.039 I think most people don't think that, you know what I mean, Like 637 00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:14.920 I don't think like, oh, it's not possible. I was raised wrong? 638 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:17.320 You were raised wrong? Right? Well, our parents are ordinary people 639 00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:21.519 too, and they can be messed up something exactly swear. So it was 640 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.440 like one of those things. She was like challenging that, and I started 641 00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:27.599 like looking at things like, man, you know what, No, I 642 00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:31.280 don't like that. And then I started looking at things like how like like 643 00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:35.440 my drinking problem that I was having and like I'm two years now, I'm 644 00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:38.719 now two years nine months sober and a like party drugs, And she's like 645 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:44.119 that I would be considered California sober because I just smoke weed, eat mushrooms 646 00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:50.920 and do DMT. Yeah you're you're you're spiritual spirit. I'm just a spiritual 647 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:57.960 guy now. Yeah. But it's like one of those things was like how 648 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.360 how are we going to be doing these things? Because like I was sixteen, 649 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:04.360 like my drinking habits, and it's like, oh, it comes from 650 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.079 your household. All the ships you're talking about raising, Well, I am 651 00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.559 a narcissist because I had disassociated parents. I mean, you have disassociated parents, 652 00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:15.320 You're gonna have these high expectations and you create imposter syndrome, which came 653 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.960 Ricky Pete, you know what I'm saying, Like the whole Like like I 654 00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.039 wanted to make music, McKenzie was never like like had a safe place, 655 00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:27.199 like all my creativity. Wanted to be in bands and do weird shit. 656 00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.639 Was never safe. It was always told I was fucking weird and I need 657 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:34.039 to be doing this playing football because I'm strong and I could do all this 658 00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.800 hyper masculine shit. But it's like, yo, McKenzie really generally wanted to 659 00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:39.760 make music, but you don't fuck with that. And then like I got 660 00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:44.880 a nickname Rickey Pee, like through like football and being competitive with like the 661 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:46.559 other side of town and like my rest of my family because I come to 662 00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:51.599 my cousin with the NFL. So it's like I have a very high athletic 663 00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:54.519 family. Yes, So it's like one of those things. It's like, 664 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:59.039 man, uh, it was like a whole bunch of this ship and it's 665 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:01.280 just like, oh, I could see how I became into this imposter of 666 00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:06.119 like running it because I dropped out of college and my parents kicked me out 667 00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:09.519 the house. So it's like Ricky Pee. You didn't like Ricky Pete, 668 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:14.079 but Ricky Pee's getting all this respect. He's not here making these moves. 669 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:15.960 McKenzie can't do this shit because McKenzie, for real, fro just want to 670 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.599 go up in his room and play his bass guitar or play his drums and 671 00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.280 ship on this weird ship did you call him weird? Want to be making 672 00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:23.639 metal, but you don't like that, So I have to go over here 673 00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:27.039 and do his Rickiepeat shit, you know what I'm saying, Because I could 674 00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:29.679 go compete. They'll be hyper masculine in that ship. So it's like it 675 00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:31.519 creates this imposter and it's like, man, by the time I met my 676 00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:36.000 wife, I don't even know who the fuck I am. Yeah, that's 677 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:38.000 really most of us do it and It's like, look at any creative, 678 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.360 it's an imposter syndrome. Bro, you believe, we end up believing the 679 00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.800 actual character. And that's why Tony Montana died. He started believing Tony Montana. 680 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:51.599 He forgot about Tony. He forgot about what he originally got into Game 681 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:53.760 four was just to get out of not doing this bullshit. He didn't want 682 00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:57.280 to be no plug. He actually had a he was a man with a 683 00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.760 cause. But then once he started getting some money, started to believe in 684 00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:05.679 this moniker of like Tony Montena. It's like that's how he had his weird 685 00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:07.519 twenty four hours of having like you know what I'm saying, falling out what 686 00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:10.840 people having his sister try to hit on him and then get hurt back blown 687 00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:15.239 out, and all this ship. He killed a whole bunch of a bunch 688 00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:19.559 of wouldn't be assassins just to get his fucking back blown up by shot the 689 00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:27.960 ball romantically into his pond that's inside his fucking house like this, because we 690 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.119 have disassociated, like you know what I'm saying, like parents, So when 691 00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:34.159 I became a parent, I had to start repairing my parents because I'm like, 692 00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:36.320 yo, you're not doing this to my son. You're not gonna tell 693 00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:37.920 him he can't do something and all this shit. If you're around him, 694 00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:43.079 let him do a shit. My son's very independent because we don't force him 695 00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:46.960 to do stuff. Yeah, should you give him respect in that pay not 696 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:52.000 an annex of me. Our parents had us because they wanted to have kids 697 00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.239 for their fucking look and they're narcissistic. Whatever the fuck they wanted to call 698 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:58.840 a family had nothing to do with us. Because I've met you, any 699 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.920 money, most of you would would probably could go back in life. The 700 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:06.880 only thing you would probably change was just asking more of your parents. Yeah. 701 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.119 Yeah, if I could get If if I can go back and get 702 00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:13.920 less of what we had and more of my parents, I would do it 703 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.679 in heart, fad you know what I'm saying. So it's like with repairing 704 00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:20.199 of my parents, it's like yoh, it's like yo, Like there are 705 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.079 certain things you gotta start focusing on. This is why you do this, 706 00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.840 has nothing to do it right now and has everything to do from zero to 707 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:30.280 seven. If you don't heal childhood, you you're just gonna keep perpetuating all 708 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.800 the bullshit. It's gonna be different characters. It's just gonna be different characters, 709 00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:37.800 same fucking movie plot, scream and scary movie. It's gonna be and 710 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:42.519 it's really gonna but it's gonna piss you off because it's gonna be. One's 711 00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.159 the real fucking thriller. This the one that's the box office one, and 712 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:50.320 then the other one's the fucking joke that you're like, fuck, so are 713 00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.360 you gonna be the king or you're gonna be the jester? And how the 714 00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:54.519 time or the jester thinking trying to become the king? Like you know what 715 00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:58.239 I'm saying, But we end up believing the fucking role, and we ended 716 00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.360 up falling on our face. And it's like if we don't, if we 717 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:04.960 don't sit here and focus on this ship and we're repairing our parents because if 718 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.719 not, we're gonna still have these weird self doubts and your kids are gonna 719 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:08.840 hear that. But my son will deal with none of that ship. My 720 00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:14.079 son's thought going to school, he's gonna still he's gonna learn about having activities. 721 00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:16.760 He's he's very smart already. He already knows how to do sign language, 722 00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:20.039 all types of shit. It's like one of those things. It's like, 723 00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:22.320 yo, we don't have to go and like you're gonna you're gonna learn 724 00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.440 about everything. But he's gonna have activities. He's already into muay Thai. 725 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.079 I already shown him how to do like pad drills all this shit. He's 726 00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:34.440 gonna be lying in the lamp. It's not We're not gonna be over here 727 00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:39.039 teaching you to be one thing. We're actually learning our son. Like that's 728 00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:43.360 that's the whole point. Like me and his my wife created him. We 729 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.199 made a plan and we're like, yo, we're getting married, like let's 730 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:49.199 create a family. Like we brought you into this world. You owe me 731 00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:54.840 nothing, I owe you everything. Yes, yeah, that's a huge misconception. 732 00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:58.679 I feel like parents think like, oh, well I brought you into 733 00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:02.159 this world, you owe me every rethinking you were freaky with mom. I 734 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.840 didn't ask to be here. I didn't ask to be born. Dad, 735 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:14.000 you just shot Mom's club up, like we're Mom told me what it was 736 00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:17.559 like, shiff you came home do that ass on. Yeah, you couldn't 737 00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:24.679 get to the drawer and you know what you's doing and you didn't give a 738 00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:28.960 fu. We're just gonna have a baby because like we're just married. That's 739 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:31.760 what we fucking do, like you know, like out of like love, 740 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:37.800 like oh my god. But it's serious though, like you have to make 741 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:40.440 a joke on because yeah, like yeah, bro, like you're always harping 742 00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.199 on me, trying to tell me like I brought you this world, I 743 00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.679 can take you out of it. It's like, dude, yeah, like 744 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:47.360 I didn't ask to be here, Like I didn't ask it. I'm just 745 00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:52.199 doing what I can now that I'm here. Like you know, I didn't 746 00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.559 get a say in this. I had the same exact experience, like you 747 00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:58.960 know, with my my dad. He always wanted He put me in football, 748 00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.199 he put me in basketball, he put me in baseball, all this 749 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:07.320 stuff, and I his narcissistic Oh yeah up, straight up yeah. I 750 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:12.320 never followed through with any of it. And then around like twelve or thirteen, 751 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:14.360 he was like, well, if you're not gonna do any of this 752 00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:17.000 shit, like maybe maybe you'll you know, He's like, go do whatever, 753 00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:22.039 And I picked up my grandfather's guitar and it was a rap. After 754 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.480 that, it was music, music, music. Imagine level thinking whenever you're 755 00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:29.320 not even thinking about ship and you could have been learning stuff without even thinking 756 00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:30.800 at your learning stuff you know what I'm saying. So it's like that's what 757 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.239 I'm at where my son is like, oh damn well, if he's interested 758 00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:36.840 in this, shiit like how he's interested in Like I take him the shows 759 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:38.079 like I'm part of the music industry, but like you're gonna be in the 760 00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:42.159 studio like third eighty. Who's in the fucking world. Bro. When the 761 00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:44.679 first day he got out the hospital, I took him to the fucking studio. 762 00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:50.320 He listened to You Are My Sunshine to Augsburger speakers custom Augsburger. You 763 00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:52.079 know what I'm saying. It's like one of those things. It's not like 764 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:53.199 a flex, but it's like one of those things. Like he came out 765 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.639 in this world to see if like he's a frequency baby. Me and his 766 00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.880 his mother got into synchronicity, like we like did a whole bunch of shit. 767 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.360 I changed my lifestyle, my eating habits, my people. I drew 768 00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:06.760 a lot in the sand for everything, because that's what you're supposed to do 769 00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:08.519 for your child. You're supposed to be it's supposed to be your child first, 770 00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:13.880 not anybody else or what they think about it. So it's like I 771 00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.199 want him to be able to be with me, because don't you ever think 772 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:19.480 about it back in a day, like damn, like, what were you 773 00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:22.239 doing that? Like you say you're working, Like what were you doing? 774 00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:27.280 Right? We always get the stonewall gas light, like we're no, how's 775 00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.519 that worked? It was like I was working to provide for my family. 776 00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:35.119 Stowall, stoewall, that's a stonewall right there. It's like, well, 777 00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.719 no, what were you doing? Like, because what about when you came 778 00:53:38.760 --> 00:53:43.679 home? It's like, you know, it's what about when you came home? 779 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:45.159 Come home? What're you gonna do? Sit on the counts, turn 780 00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:50.840 on the TV, start barking at us, having these unrealistic expectations of us, 781 00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:53.639 because what you're not doing it? And that's where we get these harsh 782 00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:59.159 punishments or these harsh consequences or these harsh judgments, because they have this false 783 00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:01.719 idea that we're gonna live up some fucking maginary standard. Did They're not even 784 00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:06.159 showing us you know what I'm saying. My parents were always about school and 785 00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:09.280 all this shit. But were you sitting down studying with me? How many 786 00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:14.159 like how many tests did you actually like, you know, like besides asking 787 00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:15.360 me if I have a test. Did you actually like, did there help 788 00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:19.519 me study couple cards? Like you know what I'm saying? Were you showing 789 00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:22.280 me these things? Like you guys are the ones that with the college and 790 00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:23.280 did that shit? I didn't. So I was like, if you're a 791 00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:28.159 studious person, how do you expect me to pick up being studios? Yeah? 792 00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:32.800 You grew up like me, man, Like I I just want to 793 00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:37.199 put this out there. My dad listens to every episode. Dad, I 794 00:54:37.239 --> 00:54:40.679 am so thankful that you were endlessly loving to me as a child. No, 795 00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.199 this isn't this is just my testiment right right, But my dad actually 796 00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:50.159 listen. So I had to say, Dad, we're helping these boys right 797 00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:53.320 here. No, like my parents know, like I love them to life, 798 00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:57.719 Like I wouldn't choose any other parents, Like you know what I'm saying, 799 00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:01.239 because I'm very blessed. Yeah, Like I'm blessed with the parents I 800 00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:06.039 have and the things that they did. Now that's my job to educate them 801 00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:09.159 on the things that they weren't doing. And like educating not even what they 802 00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:15.039 were doing. It's really educate them on my feelings. Yeah, because uh, 803 00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:20.400 as adult me, I just need you to understand just to validate my 804 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:22.760 feelings. I don't need you to like understand me. You just need to 805 00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:27.599 let me have these things out here. Yeah, because it's okay that like 806 00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:32.960 there's it's not questioning or uh criticizing your parenting. I'm just over here trying 807 00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:36.280 to help you out so you can have a better relationship with my son. 808 00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:37.920 I still get trouble for the like in the metal thing. I mean, 809 00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.599 Nick will tell you, like I still catch pretty heavy because I mean, 810 00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.719 dude, like, not only do we live in the South, which is 811 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.920 the Bible Belt, but then I you know, like if we're talking about 812 00:55:46.960 --> 00:55:51.199 like Christianity is being gangs, I grew up in the hardest gang, dude, 813 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:57.559 I grew up. I grew up in Pentecostal christian Yeah, they're they're 814 00:55:57.599 --> 00:56:00.800 different, man. They're always strapping with Bible versus bro and like dude, 815 00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:07.199 scripture. So like me, like so, so imagine this Ricky and and 816 00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:12.440 we've seen you some of our twice porn music by the way, this this 817 00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:24.440 is this is the guitarist and other vo yeah toms and all these crazy picked 818 00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:28.079 up my grandfather. Yeah, you picked up as guitar and all of a 819 00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.840 sudden, it's like shud up, like you know, like that, like 820 00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:43.719 I've been dude. Thanks and and also producer to producer. I also do 821 00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:49.239 all the engineering on it as well. Listen and for Fallow Forever, I 822 00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:55.400 am the band. Okay, I the whole track on the laptop on the 823 00:56:55.440 --> 00:57:00.159 same loud something that we wanted yea, and come up with this shit and 824 00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:02.920 engineer mix it. I love it though, Like I love it too. 825 00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.000 I love engineering. I love being part of the music making things. Like 826 00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:10.280 it's wonderful. We are frequency magicians, bro, That's what I was just 827 00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:15.960 gonna say. It's magic. Yes, we don't even touch none of the 828 00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:19.880 ship. We touch the tools, but we don't even touch the frequency. 829 00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.559 Yeah, the power. Yes, And we put it together and then we 830 00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:25.320 go put it to somebody else and it makes them feel something. You know 831 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:28.280 what they do. They put some vocals on it, and all of a 832 00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:30.119 sudden they add another frequency to that, and then we mold that ship, 833 00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:32.840 and then we hand it off to somebody. Then they just start feeling it. 834 00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:36.159 Then they started passing it to their friends, and then all of a 835 00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:38.599 sudden, it's a whole room of everybody feeling the same thing without touching nothing. 836 00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:43.239 Oh that's so cool. That's so sick. It's a wild thing. 837 00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:46.920 Like, yeah, it feels like it is. I don't feel it is. 838 00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:50.599 Yeah, that's like, oh, it feels like it feels like some 839 00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:55.400 you know, like you don't feel like I know, Dad, you're hearing 840 00:57:55.400 --> 00:58:01.440 it. And but it's something I would believe. Jeezus is actually a woman. 841 00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:05.679 You know what I'm saying. Oh, oh my god, dude. 842 00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:09.920 But yeah, it seems like we're all from like a similar background, just 843 00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:15.519 different characters. Yeah, for sure. It's just no, it's the same 844 00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:19.400 movie plot for real. It's just you know, like I said, scream 845 00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:24.480 and scary movie. You know, it's funny, man. I just made 846 00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:29.920 my wife watch all of the first first the Wayne's Brothers h scary movies, 847 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.480 so I guess he didn't didn't make the third one, but just recently watched 848 00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:36.320 them. Dude, they're funnier now than they were back when we were kids, 849 00:58:36.320 --> 00:58:39.199 because you know why, everybody's so sensitive now and like the stuff that 850 00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:44.079 they were doing back then, you can never do that. Oh yeah. 851 00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:46.079 So it's like if you have a like, if you're a person like you 852 00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:52.039 who has a broad mind, a broad like acceptance, it's stuff like that 853 00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:54.440 is okay where now it's like people watch that like, oh my god, 854 00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:59.440 you even like that. It's like, bro, you all are so uptight 855 00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:02.400 like it's it's like it's not even that fucking serious, like we're all propaganda 856 00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:07.239 fucking like consumers anyway, bro, like the fuck, but no, that's 857 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:09.239 good. You should put your lady on it that ship. My lady don't 858 00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:13.519 know none of those like older movies. She's twenty seven, so she's like, 859 00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:22.880 as we talk about this all the time in passing, but I'm dead 860 00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:27.480 serious man, when you coming out to North Carolina, uh asap actually probably 861 00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:31.039 because like yeah, like we're we're Me and my wife are nomad's. We're 862 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:37.880 I love la for work. But when it comes to family and like where 863 00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:39.760 my wife's at, like my son's out, Like my son's like a nature 864 00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:44.000 boy, bro loves to be out and his diaper, running around the grass 865 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:45.960 out on his bare feet and shit like that. It's like, you know, 866 00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:50.800 we're just right now roaming around being around family and shit, like we're 867 00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:54.760 down in Florida and we drove up here. Oh shit, oh for next 868 00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:59.239 for next time's sake, Um, if you're driving from Florida to Pittsburgh, 869 00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:04.400 and you have time and it might be here. No, it might be 870 01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.880 like next week or so, because when we're like we might we might go 871 01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:09.280 on like we did a road trip, like we were like you know, 872 01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:14.920 we're about to problem. You know when you think about like having a kid, 873 01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:17.679 bro, like remember like road trips. Yeah, but your family like 874 01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:22.400 her, We have like our Xcel Bully, Like he's a big ass fucking 875 01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:23.880 on her pal like pit Bull, And it's like, you know, we're 876 01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:28.039 all lucked up and like you know what I'm saying, shuv and just driving 877 01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:30.599 around getting stacks like we stopped like you know, we took our time getting 878 01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:37.880 here, and uh it's just from yeah, my ladies from Canada too. 879 01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:39.440 So it's like whenever she came to America, she really just came out to 880 01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:43.639 LA. Was just got deeped over into LA And I'm like then she like 881 01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:46.079 this last summer, got to see like Pittsburgh, really loved Pittsburgh. But 882 01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:49.719 like you know, ain't I'm like driving through America, Bro, I got 883 01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:52.400 the tour. I got the tour for so many years. So it's like 884 01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:55.039 for me, I love being on the road, but just seeing all the 885 01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:59.880 just different types of life run it's like nothing like doing it with your family. 886 01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:01.880 So it's like, my wife is so interested in this stuff, and 887 01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:06.840 especially after meeting Tom, and Tom speak so highly of you guys. You 888 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:08.199 know what I'm saying. Really, I'm happy to hear that, and I 889 01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:14.079 love Tom, and so it's like my wife is like that, Like you 890 01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:16.800 guys literally speak all this year, like I'm gonna seem like a fucking idiot 891 01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:24.480 compared you guys are gonna be like talking. I'm like, huh writing sit 892 01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:29.519 down over here, like oh yeah, totally, yeah, for sure, 893 01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.519 for sure, for sure. Yeah, So like are you are you like 894 01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:36.400 you're real talking like might be in the area next week? No, yeah, 895 01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:42.079 like legit, like well because Fat Bill is literally five point well yeah, 896 01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:45.079 and ninety five runs through it, so I would not be out of 897 01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:49.679 your way. No, it's not like South Carolina is funny those places like 898 01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:55.639 weird, but it is. I can't don't drive there at night time. 899 01:01:55.760 --> 01:02:00.760 I don't like South Carolina. Yeah yeah, but no, I definitely like, 900 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:05.559 bro seriously, realistically, it might be next week. You might get 901 01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:07.639 a call because I think we're gonna take your time. I'm driving through like 902 01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:12.920 maybe even like all the way down back to Florida or some Well. Tom's 903 01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:15.239 on tour right now. So here's the deal. If you are in the 904 01:02:15.280 --> 01:02:19.199 area next week, that's perfect because Tom and I live in Welmington, which 905 01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:22.360 is two hours away from Fayetteville. But you're passing through Fayetteville, which is 906 01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:24.760 where not only Nick Libs, but my dad and my whole family lives. 907 01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:28.360 So if you passed through Fayeteville, that'll be great, man, because I'll 908 01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:30.360 take you out there. We'll chill with the bleds of family. I know. 909 01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:35.280 If I'm gonna do it, we're gonna skywide. We're gonna skywad. 910 01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:39.719 We're not gonna like it. You're not just give me like, no, 911 01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:50.280 no, no, no, you're if you're in the area. If you're 912 01:02:50.280 --> 01:02:53.400 in the area, muse my brother Junior, who you haven't met yet, 913 01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:57.239 he's actually your age. He's he's turning thirty four this month. Actually, 914 01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:00.440 um, he has a three year old who's actually turning three in a days, 915 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.079 so it's a little older than you. So the little boys can play 916 01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:09.559 around and be buddies. And my cousin Oh no, that's fine. Yeah, 917 01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:13.119 he's got a twelve year old brother. Perfect, and we're gonna do 918 01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:15.760 some skywatching, Bro, and we're gonna we're gonna see some You're gonna see 919 01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:20.000 some shit. You're gonna see. Yeah. Now, by the time the 920 01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:22.639 airs, it'll be like June, so we'll find out, you know, 921 01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:24.199 if it all worked out, we'll have to do a follow up. We 922 01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:28.039 might have to push this one. No, we could do another, we 923 01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:31.039 could do another one. Oh. Like I said, I'm excited. I'm 924 01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:36.320 thankful to be here. Um, happy to be here. So you know, 925 01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:40.119 we're happy to have you, bro, Bro, I'm all with it. 926 01:03:40.639 --> 01:03:43.880 Well yeah, and then especially in the future, we gotta do a 927 01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:45.599 really special episode where you and Tom well, I mean he's on tour and 928 01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:50.519 apparently they just announced yesterday they're immediately going to Europe after this tour in so 929 01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:53.440 he's gonna be gone for a few months unfortunately. But the next time you 930 01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:57.880 come around, Um, we gotta have both y'all on and we'll do like 931 01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:05.360 a huge crossover episode. So it will be sick and we will be Yeah. 932 01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:09.800 So, um, I wanted to shift gears a little bit, so 933 01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:15.239 we we kind of like started the recording, like we didn't officially start recording, 934 01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:16.320 and then you were spitting game and I was like yeah, we gotta 935 01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:18.280 include this. Yeah, we could do it. Hey, we gotta do 936 01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:20.480 another one. Let's do another one. Bro. Well, no, we're 937 01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:25.480 good. We can just start here. So, um, I would be 938 01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:28.199 remiss if I didn't ask you about this, like in a little more detail. 939 01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:30.159 On Blitzo said, so for our listeners. But I want to I 940 01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:33.960 want to dive back into a little bit more about like your experience with our 941 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:39.679 book. Yeah. Um, like I said, I got pretty early into 942 01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:44.519 it, and uh to get a water brought to me, thank you, 943 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:55.199 Dan the oldest kid from another world league whatever the is in the robotics league. 944 01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:58.199 Yeah, these kids are smarter than us. I'm trying to tell, 945 01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:03.559 got different coding. Damn, that's sick. I wish they had those kind 946 01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:06.679 of programs when I was growing up. Bro, my wife's been finding all 947 01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:12.360 this old shit. I'm like, we had shop class. They like wood, 948 01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:17.039 they got actual robots, like that's all completely different. But no, 949 01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:20.679 I just got early into the book. It's really uh. After they got 950 01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:27.079 to whenever the Pope is coming into Philly and which six hours like five six 951 01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:30.960 hours away from where I'm from, Pittsburgh, and uh, I'm just I 952 01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:34.840 got really into it. We're talking with Tom and Tom Barber and he sent 953 01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:40.039 me your dad's Instagram page. He sent me a couple of videos. Like 954 01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:43.039 he's like, bro, because I was talking for like an hour and like 955 01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:45.960 he's like, damn, bro, we we think a lot. Like I'm 956 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:47.920 like, yeah, Bro, He's like, I think I could talk to 957 01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:53.599 you about some some other shit. Hit me, bro, Like I've heard 958 01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:57.000 some wild ship my day, so you're probably not gonna tell you nothing wold. 959 01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:59.440 And he started telling me about like like you know what I'm saying, 960 01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:01.440 start to show some videos and it was like your dad, like you know, 961 01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:05.599 getting you know what I'm saying, getting visited or whatever you want to 962 01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:10.639 call it. Just like his energy was just kind of channeling you know what 963 01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:15.400 I'm saying these orbs. And it motivated me to start deep diving into it. 964 01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:19.480 And like I said, I'm really in early into it. By the 965 01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:23.280 next time this airs and we can talk next time, I'll have you a 966 01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:30.480 full deep dive. Hows Yeah, the ship right now is it's cool because 967 01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:32.519 like I said, bro, or I don't know if, like I'm from 968 01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:36.639 a religious background, so hearing stuff like that, it's very eye opening, 969 01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:41.559 you know. It's especially when you can see it, you know. Yeah, 970 01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:45.480 you hear people who like that, what anything from any monetary gang. 971 01:06:45.559 --> 01:06:48.199 It's just information, which I'm a firm believer in just giving information. But 972 01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:53.199 we're supposed to be doing that, right Like, so, I've just been 973 01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:57.199 intrigued. Knowledge should be freely shared. Yeah, and now I found myself 974 01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:02.679 on the Blessed so said, so always gotta name drop it. Uh, 975 01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:05.800 yeah, we're here. I appreciate that. Man. Hey, I hadn't 976 01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:10.320 even told you this yet. Man, Um, well, I can't go 977 01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:15.239 too much into it, but um, we're we're we're gonna be uh hey 978 01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:18.760 listening. Listen, you come out next week and uh, I'll put you 979 01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:24.760 onto some you can talk some pretty mind blowing shit. Yeah, everybody can 980 01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:27.960 you know, handle a lot of like, you know, certain conversations. 981 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.760 That's why I had to sign some NDA's. But we're gonna be appearing on 982 01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:34.159 um, the History Channel this this, I guess it's August, which we 983 01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:41.320 could hit around. It's gonna be it's gonna be pretty insane if I'm gonna 984 01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:43.559 you know, we're not really supposed to go into like what it is or 985 01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:45.639 the nature of it or anything, except for we will be appearing on it, 986 01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:50.440 and um, yeah, we will have some pretty enlightening conversations if if 987 01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:54.360 if we end up seeing you out this way next week, and it'll be 988 01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:56.960 a blast. But um, I want to I want to hear more about, 989 01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:01.400 um, what it's like being in the industry. Like a few months 990 01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:03.679 ago when we first talked on the phone, you were kind of telling me 991 01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:09.039 some really cool stuff about like things you've witnessed some pretty like shady stuff in 992 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:12.159 the industry. I know you probably haven't seen like extremely you know. Oh 993 01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:15.880 no, man, I say, fuck, I've been i'd say, doing 994 01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:20.680 this stuff professionally for like last like eight years now. Wow. Uh with 995 01:08:21.079 --> 01:08:26.640 from getting my first placement like album placement with Todd Alison on the Beach House. 996 01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:36.279 Uh. Ep, it's um you you see in the manipulation of creatives 997 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:44.000 done every day because it's a three headed horse. It's legal corporate and creatives 998 01:08:44.079 --> 01:08:47.079 and legal represents corporate. So it's like you're dealing with people who are hyper 999 01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:53.000 vigilant in like the knowledge but not any any knowledge and actually how to create 1000 01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:57.560 it, and the creators are just just creating art and which art is perspective 1001 01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:00.439 based, so you know, artists art out pours. Fuck like producers, 1002 01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:03.520 any artists, any part of like the creators, they start out poor as 1003 01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:06.239 hell, and then they got to do all the investment and all the equipment, 1004 01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:10.079 and then it's like, you know, you get to these places where 1005 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:14.479 you start getting these job opportunities or these placement opportunities, and then it's like, 1006 01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:16.279 yeah, you could get a placement with somebody, they could drop the 1007 01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:19.840 song, but are you getting paid now? No, you don't understand about 1008 01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:23.960 net thirty. Nobody teaches you about that shit. You know what I'm saying. 1009 01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.680 You don't know that They get three months to just like acknowledge they got 1010 01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:30.720 your invoice. That's just to give you like yeah, I got it. 1011 01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:35.520 Like that's that's not even like oh yeah we gotta set the processing or it's 1012 01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:38.680 like yeah we got it. Cool, Like you know what I'm saying, 1013 01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:41.760 Pick you around. Yeah, you can literally wait up till a year to 1014 01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:45.520 get paid for something you live and it's like and you created it, Yes, 1015 01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:50.039 it wasn't for me. It'souldn't happened. Like credit. Nobody is selling 1016 01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:56.319 instrumental like like like literally like apapella fucking albums. Nobody's doing that. Nobody's 1017 01:09:56.319 --> 01:10:00.039 selling acapella albums like like the Fuck So and then it's like as an engineer, 1018 01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:03.720 we don't often get points or get part of like you know, publishing, 1019 01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:08.039 and like the engineer, there's the reason why fuck these artists sound like 1020 01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:12.359 they sound. You know. It's it's there's a difference between somebody really don't 1021 01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:15.439 how to engineer and then like somebody know how to hit buttons. But it's 1022 01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:17.640 like there's a lot of people that get taken advantage of because it's like dude, 1023 01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:23.000 like man, like you could be somebody who has value or somebody who 1024 01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:26.640 just selling beats for nothing, and it's like they'd rather go for the guy 1025 01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:29.680 who's gonna take nothing and then fuck them over and then put them into a 1026 01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:31.680 little place that you're part of my team. We're gonna pay you Nichols, 1027 01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:34.800 and like you're gonna be fine with it, and everybody else is over here 1028 01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:39.239 trying to get into these circles not realize that these people ain't getting paid shit 1029 01:10:39.319 --> 01:10:43.880 either. That is tragic. That's that's but I mean it's like, at 1030 01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:46.079 least in the urban world, the pop world, it's like it's very stale. 1031 01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:48.800 It's like these guys like, shit, you can't even say name the 1032 01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:55.000 last artist who's had a sound since like maybe like twenty eighteen, like that 1033 01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:59.239 was like the last sound. Yeah, but that isn't that isn't like a 1034 01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:01.760 put together right now, you know what I'm saying, Like an actual fresh 1035 01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:06.720 sound. And it's like when we're talking about now in a weird day of 1036 01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:13.960 streaming where you're seeing it everything from fucking movies. That's why movie suck. 1037 01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:17.720 Nobody's going on a fucking theater. Nobody's buying babe ds what I think music 1038 01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:23.039 sucks. Nobody's buying albums. You're just screaming. Even streams, what the 1039 01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:26.439 fuck? You can get a billion streams and not get a billion dollars? 1040 01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:30.119 How does that happen? Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Where's the math 1041 01:11:30.199 --> 01:11:31.520 manth in it? And like, and this has been going on since two 1042 01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:35.119 thou sixteen. We're almost at ten years, you know what I'm saying, 1043 01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:39.920 And it still hasn't had any type of change. And they've raised the fucking 1044 01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:43.920 shit on everybody, and they've raised the stipulations on how many digital download like 1045 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:47.920 spins it takes for a digital download like it, there's it's one point seven 1046 01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:53.560 songs uploaded to Spotify a day. I mean one note, it's one point 1047 01:11:53.560 --> 01:12:00.000 seven songs a second uploaded to spot Yes, one point seven so a whole 1048 01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:09.119 shit, that's just Spotify. Bro, whoa So that that's so unfathomable, 1049 01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:14.359 Like how does an artist even compete? Yes? Yeah, you're not even 1050 01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:20.640 talking about titles or ale musics or YouTube anything. We're talking about just one 1051 01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:26.920 platform. It's like it's granted, there's certain places where creatives can kind of 1052 01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:29.439 make money, but it's like, dude, you're at a point now where 1053 01:12:29.479 --> 01:12:31.880 you have to be the whole fucking management you do. Yeah, you have 1054 01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:35.880 to do everything for just somebody to try to do whatever, somebody to even 1055 01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:41.279 see you, for somebody to even hear you. So okay, good question. 1056 01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:45.720 Then how would you like just advice? Now I'm asking you for some 1057 01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:51.279 professional producer lee advice. Let's say we have this band, right Twice Born, 1058 01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:56.039 and now we're very lucky we have the podcast to help us get it 1059 01:12:56.039 --> 01:12:58.960 out there. But let's say we didn't. What would you recommend for us 1060 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:00.720 to get some people? By the way, I just looked, we have 1061 01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:09.760 like two hundred ninety five monthly listeners on on Twice Born on Spotify I I 1062 01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:13.319 didn't expect that. I don't look but it's amazing. That's cool, right, 1063 01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:15.960 But like, but you you you know a lot of people, even 1064 01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.159 if it is like small, uh, you know a lot of people. 1065 01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:24.560 It's it's going to face to face with people. You're you're in contact with 1066 01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:26.880 a lot of people, you know what I'm saying. And don't be afraid 1067 01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:30.000 to use these places like uh, like these TV shows and shit to just 1068 01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:33.800 throw your ideas into there, throw your band out there where your shit, 1069 01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:39.720 um, because uh, when you're twice born, you're like it's it's like 1070 01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:42.079 you have to wear your Batman suit, bro, So you're gonna have to 1071 01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:45.239 put that shit on at all times. And uh, you know you could 1072 01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:48.359 send it to your boy Rick, I'll start posting that shit. It's just 1073 01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:53.600 start going one plus one, like you know, yeah, yeah, right, 1074 01:13:57.479 --> 01:14:00.439 that's what we're supposed to be doing. That made me smile, like 1075 01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:03.000 it was what's supposed to be doing. But unfortunately in the industry right now, 1076 01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:10.600 it's like it's like a like a selfish like me me, you know, 1077 01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:14.039 I'm seeing it like it doesn't matter what genre you're in. It you're 1078 01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:17.079 gonna deal with like kind of like similar things. It's just really just you 1079 01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:24.079 know, finding your the people who just fuck with you like in life, 1080 01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:26.279 like you know, you know a lot of people who like you Ryan. 1081 01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:30.399 You know what I'm saying, Like you just started just like visially, like 1082 01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:32.279 hey man, playing this, playing that, just keeping like keep it going. 1083 01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:35.000 You have this, like I said, you could just keep this rule 1084 01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:40.760 one. You know some people in the game like fucking are working with other 1085 01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.439 people too. That comes to help too, you know what I'm saying, 1086 01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:45.000 if you could like uh, you know, I'm just saying, like making 1087 01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:50.439 songs like yes, I'll save you some shit that like is like our post 1088 01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:55.560 hardcore band. It's like I do the screams. I'll do like background singing 1089 01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:58.199 and shit like that because like me and him co write songs and shit like 1090 01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:02.079 that, where but I do all the screams like and the ship's tight. 1091 01:15:02.520 --> 01:15:06.159 I'm getting better at it, I've heard, honestly, and it is good. 1092 01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:11.319 I've I've before before you had announced um Fall of Forever. I don't 1093 01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:14.880 know if you remember, but that day that Tom was with me at my 1094 01:15:14.960 --> 01:15:18.079 dad's house and you had I got your number that day and you sent us 1095 01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:20.680 some samples. I don't know if this is fall forever, if this was 1096 01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:27.119 more like that, that was just me just like experimenting that the sound of 1097 01:15:27.239 --> 01:15:30.000 like, hey, I'm getting back into us because it's like, you know, 1098 01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:31.399 I haven't made it since I was in high school, but you know, 1099 01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:34.760 I still I'm not gonna run away from my knowledge on how to make 1100 01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:38.600 fucking music. Like shit, you know what I'm saying. I know how 1101 01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:41.159 to do it at a professional level. It's like, it just took me 1102 01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:44.119 a little bit to get back into it. But where a stuff where we're 1103 01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:46.439 at now, Oh man, it's it's completely different. I just said to 1104 01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:49.800 uh Tom some stuff. He's like, dude, this is like yeah, 1105 01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:55.920 like if you I'm I'm a student now. Like there's the reason why I 1106 01:15:56.000 --> 01:16:00.920 got to being diamond is because I'm I'm an information wore and I studied the 1107 01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:02.199 ship and figure out how to make it sound like how it was supposed to 1108 01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:06.159 sound. That's my guess. That's that's exactly what I had to do. 1109 01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:13.720 I watched probably forty hours or maybe more. Still watch YouTube, bro, 1110 01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:16.560 Still look up any song that you like, go look up who mixed it. 1111 01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:19.880 I bet you any money they have at least forty fucking videos of them 1112 01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:25.680 yucking saying some will whatever did they do? And like, yeah, bro, 1113 01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:29.600 what you know? Uh you know, uh, Joey Sturgis, I 1114 01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:36.920 watched screaming shit. I hit that thing up on Instagram. Damn fucking rate. 1115 01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:41.439 Hell yeah, you think I'm if I need? I watched his videos 1116 01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:46.479 too, you know what I'm I'm fucking I'm subscribed to his fucking youtubere Vocal 1117 01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:51.520 Institute shit like yes, that's I showed Ryan whenever I was like, dude, 1118 01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:55.039 okay, we're doing this band. We don't have anybody to do the 1119 01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:57.840 screams. I guess I'm gonna do it. And I was showing him videos 1120 01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:02.319 from that guy Extreme Vocal Institute, that guy that great. He's great, 1121 01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:06.319 he'd be on the road with motherfuckers and shit like that, and uh, 1122 01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:10.319 you know, so I started watching his video Joey Sturge and let me copying 1123 01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:13.920 some of his plugins and shit like that, Howard Benson and all the motherfuckers, 1124 01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:17.880 Like, oh yeah, I'll go into like the deep dive of like 1125 01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:21.760 everything and just trying to get into how to make shit sound better. Because 1126 01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:26.560 the reason why I even got where it's even at verse, it's me and 1127 01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:30.319 Baby Heavers the two pieces because I can't wait for people. I had other 1128 01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:32.560 people like homies that are guitars homies and shit like that, and it's just 1129 01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:35.760 like they send you some loops or like like some guitar riffs and shit like 1130 01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:39.239 that. But it's like, dude, or you're like you're only sending me 1131 01:17:39.319 --> 01:17:42.279 like two parts or like three parts, Like come on, bro, you 1132 01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:44.720 got five and you got like you know what I'm saying, Like you can't 1133 01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:46.880 switch up the progression a little bit, like we're like being baby stuff, 1134 01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:49.680 like I'll be switching the progression up like five six times. But yeah, 1135 01:17:50.119 --> 01:17:53.880 like you know what I'm saying, because like Yo and rap, you just 1136 01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:58.760 come up that main cool progression little league listen, drums on it, trap 1137 01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:00.880 that bitch out, that's it. Like where this It's like I'm going into 1138 01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:04.920 full detail and shit could get intricate with the ship. So it's like but 1139 01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:08.960 I'm not gonna wait on anybody. Like and like when I I was in 1140 01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:12.359 like that post hardcore man, I was doing background screens anyway too, So 1141 01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:15.399 like yeah, so with the Fall of Forever stuff, where do I find 1142 01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:18.239 it? We ain't even out yet. We've been to drop our first shit. 1143 01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:24.000 Like we literally just uh, we're in the mixing process and I go 1144 01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:27.520 back to La probably and like, like I said, next like two weeks 1145 01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:30.560 or so maybe. So like we're figuring out Like I got a call while 1146 01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:34.239 we're on here with bash shout out my boy bash c before co on Instagram 1147 01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:38.640 shout out like my big videos, and she's like that he's gonna shoot our 1148 01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:41.760 first video. Um, So we're like waiting on like to get that done 1149 01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:45.159 and it's gonna just hit everybody over the head probably within the next month or 1150 01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:48.880 so, I'm saying, and I'll be sharing that a little bit of help 1151 01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:50.720 that I have to offer, I will be sharing that. Yeah. No, 1152 01:18:50.800 --> 01:18:54.079 yeah, the realistically, the end of the June is whenever you're gonna 1153 01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:56.800 get all that stuff. But we're doing everything the right way, man, 1154 01:18:56.920 --> 01:19:00.960 like really making stuff that means stuff. We're writing about real life shit that 1155 01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:03.680 like you know how I was talking about like the music industry shit like if 1156 01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:05.640 you want to be a rock star, dude, that comes with a lot 1157 01:19:05.640 --> 01:19:09.439 of shit. You know what I'm saying, Like Nigga maybe living that ship, 1158 01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:11.199 but it's like, bro, that comes with a lot of stuff. 1159 01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:14.760 We're teaching people like I have a song called like it's called displaced Anger, 1160 01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:16.760 and it's like, how else do you get this plip's anger by having this 1161 01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:20.039 association And it's just like that's why we get into the other stuff because it's 1162 01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:24.199 like, you know satus part like I'll never be enough the second time around, 1163 01:19:24.199 --> 01:19:28.199 won't be so rough. It's like yeah, Like it's like my mom 1164 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:30.119 said that to me, and it's like, yo, it's kind of crazy. 1165 01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:30.920 I'd like check her about it, Like what do you mean? What's 1166 01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:33.359 different about right now? You know what I'm saying, Like when it becomes 1167 01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:36.680 grandparents, it's like it's cool, but like what are you changing the actual 1168 01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:41.720 like idea or like what's so different? Because this is the reason why I 1169 01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:45.600 have displaced anger is because like this m realistic expectation of life and then I'm 1170 01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:49.159 chasing this whole thing of where I have this imposter syndrome and I'm just always 1171 01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:53.439 chasing the fucking carrot and like what is enough? You know what I'm saying. 1172 01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:55.840 And then as an adult, and I didn't feel for feeling, so 1173 01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:58.479 I became a parent, Like yo, damn, I understanding what is enough? 1174 01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:00.000 But it's like you have to start talking about this shit because if not, 1175 01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:01.960 they just think we're out here just doing all whatever. But it's like, 1176 01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:04.800 Yo, these motherfucker's over there hurt. It's because we have Instagram. 1177 01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:08.039 You think it's all great and grand and ship like. They're like, bro, 1178 01:20:08.159 --> 01:20:11.039 motherfucker's really be going through some ship. No matter if I am Rickey, 1179 01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:13.800 Pete or not, We're all going through the same fucking shit. But 1180 01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:15.520 you want to hear about all the bullshit like, no, I'm not gonna 1181 01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:18.479 lead you astraight, Like I feel like I got lied to, but all 1182 01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:20.439 the people, like you know what I'm saying, I was listening to and 1183 01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:24.920 shit like that, they weren't. They're they're letting us know they're feeling shit, 1184 01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:28.720 but they weren't like being vulnerable. They weren't talking about what they were 1185 01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:32.680 going through. They were just talking about maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, 1186 01:20:32.680 --> 01:20:39.640 exactly. They are telling stories. It's the propaganda that gets the fucking the 1187 01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:42.359 people that need to be led. You know what I'm saying, It gets 1188 01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:44.760 the sheep. And it's like, man, I don't want to raise sheep. 1189 01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:46.840 I want to be able to give motherfucker's like the right ship. And 1190 01:20:46.920 --> 01:20:49.399 that's what the fall up forever stuff that we'll be making. We really be 1191 01:20:49.479 --> 01:20:54.600 making music that, uh you get to know me, you get to know, 1192 01:20:54.680 --> 01:20:57.279 get to know McKenzie. You know, it's not just Ricky Pete. 1193 01:20:57.560 --> 01:20:59.399 That's not like you know what I'm saying. You get Ricky Pete. That's 1194 01:20:59.399 --> 01:21:01.600 that urban shit all that stuff like this, it's real life stuff. This 1195 01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:04.960 is stuff that like I'm like I'll teach my son or like we're having these 1196 01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:09.199 type of conversations with I talk a lot about a lightenment. Should I have 1197 01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:11.640 a whole song like I'll send it to you and it's about it, Like 1198 01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:15.039 it's literally about your dad, like the video of me watching your dad, 1199 01:21:15.560 --> 01:21:19.840 like you know, get you know, or how a normal persona or like 1200 01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:24.960 a regular person like you got visited by these words. I really made a 1201 01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:28.199 song about like you know, and like Tom breaking that ship And it's just 1202 01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:30.399 like dude, like do you believe me now? You know what I'm saying? 1203 01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:34.079 Like Wow, what does it take to believe me? You know what 1204 01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:36.479 I'm saying? And I feel like that's how I've been my whole life. 1205 01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:39.720 It's like damn, like I could put it on your face, but do 1206 01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:42.760 you believe me now? Like you know what I'm saying, like I can't 1207 01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:45.960 wait to hear that one man, And it's yeah, bro, tell me 1208 01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:48.239 what you're thinking when you look up to this guy seeing the constellations. When 1209 01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:55.960 I look into your eyes, yeah, in the air and you know that 1210 01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:01.279 they arrive, I'm happy they will let me like I can't wait to hear 1211 01:22:01.359 --> 01:22:04.199 that ship. Oh my god. It's one of those things. But it's 1212 01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:06.920 like it's the truth. And then like even when I'm screaming, like I'm 1213 01:22:06.920 --> 01:22:11.640 sitting and saying I'm not lying, the Age of Aquarius is now upon this 1214 01:22:11.840 --> 01:22:15.039 and it's like, Yo, it's like we're in a point in life where 1215 01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:19.960 it's like like it's either you're gonna no you're not. And it's sad when 1216 01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:25.319 you have all these things at your fingertips like that you won't believe me, 1217 01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:29.479 like you know, like what else do I have to do to make you 1218 01:22:29.560 --> 01:22:34.039 believe that there's another way besides which it is given to And that's what that 1219 01:22:34.159 --> 01:22:38.079 song is. It's like it's literally after like me talking to Tom him some 1220 01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:42.880 of these videos and like it's like literally about that yes, no, it's 1221 01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:46.199 I if I literally told you, like tell me what you're thinking when you 1222 01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:48.880 look up to this guy, see the consolations, when I look into your 1223 01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:53.680 feeling in the air that you know that they arrived. I'm breathing heavy, 1224 01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:56.359 you know your Damn's like I'm breathing He's like you know that video. I'm 1225 01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:58.800 like, damn, dude, what an honor? Like what I'm saying, 1226 01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:01.359 Like my dad's gonna like that hero. It's like did I said, trying 1227 01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:08.680 to relax, gout my hand, just hold on, like bro, like 1228 01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:12.359 you gotta come out to North Carolina. But the fuers really be like waiting 1229 01:23:12.399 --> 01:23:15.399 for that moment when it's just like this weird precipice of information. They're just 1230 01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:18.359 like the bullshit that they like find it like it just dawns on them, 1231 01:23:18.399 --> 01:23:26.199 like oh this bullshit and it's like there's actually some other viewpoint of life. 1232 01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:30.199 But then there's so many people like we've even seen there have been people around 1233 01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:34.439 the you know the Bledsoe's not to name any names or anything, but you 1234 01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:39.239 know, the beings, the light beings, They'll they'll appear and they'll literally 1235 01:23:39.279 --> 01:23:43.520 like avert their eyes because it's like this is challenging everything that I know, 1236 01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:47.039 and so do you believe me now? Eat. People have seen it and 1237 01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:50.000 then looked away because they don't want to be like, oh you told me 1238 01:23:50.039 --> 01:23:56.359 so. Yeah. It challenges everything that they think they know and all of 1239 01:23:56.359 --> 01:24:00.680 the faith that they've invested in this or that of the other. And they 1240 01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:02.399 see it and they're like no, no, no, no, no no, 1241 01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:08.800 dude, that's some heavy shit. It's that's real shit. It happens 1242 01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:10.920 all the time too. I can't wait and hear that. Bro, you 1243 01:24:11.279 --> 01:24:15.800 gotta you gotta Temple, I can you Texas hear me? Now? Okay, 1244 01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:21.119 let's go, Ryan, you better send that to me. Ricky piece 1245 01:24:21.159 --> 01:24:26.279 coming through? Bro. Yeah. Hey, by the way, Ricky, 1246 01:24:26.319 --> 01:24:30.039 our our six song EPs gonna come out this month, Oh bro, two 1247 01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:33.520 weeks from Friday. You gotta let me know when the first singles coming out 1248 01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:36.399 and send me the video shit so I could post it on my page. 1249 01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:43.680 We got two singles out, we got two? Hell yeah? Well like 1250 01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:45.640 the artwork and shit like that, Like how you guys posted so I could 1251 01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:49.760 post it? Okay, hell yeah, dude, appreciate that he came through. 1252 01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:56.439 Yo. Something interesting that you mentioned earlier was like how to set yourself 1253 01:24:56.479 --> 01:24:59.720 apart as a producer, Like there's so many producers out there that just kind 1254 01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:02.239 of throw something together and put it out and whatever. Um. And then 1255 01:25:02.279 --> 01:25:05.439 you also mentioned you're kind of a bookhead. You read a lot of books. 1256 01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:11.800 Have you happened Have you read Rick Rubin's newest book, No, I 1257 01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:15.239 haven't. I think Rick Rubin is a very interesting person, is very like 1258 01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:26.439 you know, uh, I would say the product of uh, the early 1259 01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:32.159 ages of like fuck it that like like his his thinking was so pivotal that 1260 01:25:32.439 --> 01:25:36.479 like where like he doesn't like where people don't even understand like how he thinks. 1261 01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:40.640 It's how we think now. Yes, he's so ahead of He was 1262 01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:44.399 so great in ahead of his time because like nobody was thinking like at all 1263 01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:49.960 outside of the box. This assholes like maybe just like yeah, yeah, 1264 01:25:50.079 --> 01:25:54.680 just try some shit. And it's like everybody was so like only like the 1265 01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:57.920 gun with stuff where it's like Rick Rubin's like an interesting person because I'll be 1266 01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.079 like, yo, like to be honest with you, I feel like he 1267 01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:03.520 like you go to la. Like his vibe is like the star I'm saying 1268 01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:08.199 it is now. Yeah, And the way he describes music is kind of 1269 01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:13.600 how we have been talking about it. He believes it's a psychic like magical 1270 01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:18.239 medium and oh for sure, for sure. And but the way you channel 1271 01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:25.039 it is kind of by like opening your mind and being spiritual and thinking beyond 1272 01:26:25.199 --> 01:26:28.439 the limits of what you think, you know, and shit like that. 1273 01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:30.439 You know, he just like, you know, I heard this story about 1274 01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:33.880 whenever he was working with jay Z and you know, they were making ninety 1275 01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:39.359 nine problems. Yeah, he suggested in yes, well that, and then 1276 01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:42.119 they were like stuck at a certain point, they didn't really know where to 1277 01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:45.439 go with the mix, and he was like, let's all just go outside 1278 01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:48.399 real quick and let's just change the scenery. Let's just let's let's kind of 1279 01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:51.399 get a vibe going. And then they came back in and he saved the 1280 01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:55.319 room and he's like, all right, let's see if anything comes to us. 1281 01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:58.159 And then it was like boom boom boom boom boom boom, Like the 1282 01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:01.199 turn real industrial. That's song is like, I that's the epitome of like 1283 01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:04.720 New York. Yeah, like when you hear the mix of that, that 1284 01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:10.399 just feels like he just walked outside busy Manhattan just go get her, like 1285 01:27:10.439 --> 01:27:12.800 you know what I'm saying, I'm ready to tackle the world type shit, 1286 01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:16.359 And yeah, it's funny like that he's necessary because it's like it's true, 1287 01:27:16.479 --> 01:27:24.000 like bro're we're speaking on actual, real events or like real emotions, whether 1288 01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:28.640 they are directed for any specific thing, because like I said, like music's 1289 01:27:28.680 --> 01:27:30.159 crazy, you can write about anything. I wrote about a song. I 1290 01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:34.039 ain't got nothing to do with me besides me getting some information and my homie 1291 01:27:34.039 --> 01:27:38.520 sending me some shit. And I'm sitting there just speaking on behalf of this 1292 01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:41.760 motherfucker. Because if I'm telling you the story this shit, I'm be telling 1293 01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:44.720 you like this thing over here breathing heaviest fuck bro like Nie over here, 1294 01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:48.079 feeling the ship like they just like some I'm seeing the ship some weird or 1295 01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:51.560 whatever. Like No, he's like he his mind, his body, everything, 1296 01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:55.039 He's in the place of where he wants to be. He's present, 1297 01:27:55.159 --> 01:27:57.840 right, something that we don't do, you know what I'm saying. And 1298 01:27:57.880 --> 01:28:00.760 it's like man like, so it's like with me music, he could it's 1299 01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:05.159 all about like your vibe and how you feel because my music is literally my 1300 01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:13.359 journal, Like I speak about stuff that I feel when I have conversations due 1301 01:28:13.359 --> 01:28:17.079 to the fact that I'm reparenting myself, like my hypermasculinity comes across a little 1302 01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:24.880 bit too much. I'm very hyper masculine, which I like, I I 1303 01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:27.319 don't I don't apologize for it, you know what I'm saying, Like I've 1304 01:28:27.319 --> 01:28:30.520 been learning how to trying to turn it down, but I understand what it 1305 01:28:30.560 --> 01:28:35.119 does now because it's just childhood me trying to establish healthy boundaries whatever. I 1306 01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:39.479 already know that I'm gonna just get taken advantage of because the normal person me. 1307 01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:44.520 I like, I'm very welcoming, but like, yeah, bro, 1308 01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.640 this this stuff with music, it's like you have to get into like how 1309 01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:49.880 Rick Rubin said, you go to get into this whole shit, bro, 1310 01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:53.800 because if not, it's going to come out sounding like shit, this is 1311 01:28:53.800 --> 01:28:56.119 gonna sound out sound like you're just over here trying to force some shit, 1312 01:28:56.279 --> 01:28:58.439 like how my wife said, it sound like you're forcing it. You know 1313 01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:00.479 what I'm saying. If it sounds like I'm forcing it, bro, like 1314 01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:02.239 I don't want to do it. Like and like with my post hardcore music, 1315 01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:04.760 it's not like me forcing it. It's like me to sit over here 1316 01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:08.920 talking about my life. You know what I'm saying, really deep diving without 1317 01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:13.880 having to be faced value because unfortunately there's too much music out here. That's 1318 01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:15.880 just like, dude, that's not how they really live it. Bro. 1319 01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:17.640 Yeah, this person like he can be living cool, but like I know, 1320 01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:19.479 he's hurting on some other shit. Like you know, I'm saying, 1321 01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:23.520 there's some real life going or you know, you can devolve some shit to 1322 01:29:23.560 --> 01:29:26.600 me or at least where I'm at, Like I'm learning listening to some new 1323 01:29:26.680 --> 01:29:29.319 music, teach me some shit, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1324 01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:32.920 I feel like that's what separates like the true great works of art from like 1325 01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:38.119 the pop you know, the popular, pretty good stuff or whatever. Like 1326 01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:43.479 a real true great work of art is somebody like bearing their soul, like 1327 01:29:43.479 --> 01:29:48.439 like showing showing the deepest parts of themselves and and like telling those stories through 1328 01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:54.439 their music. That's the that's the real real shit. That's the stuff that 1329 01:29:54.479 --> 01:29:57.159 like I want my son like because my son loves my music. It's crazy, 1330 01:29:57.239 --> 01:30:00.199 don't matter if I'm like it's some ratshit or anything like that. He's 1331 01:30:00.199 --> 01:30:01.840 like my biggest fan. But I want him to be able to listen to 1332 01:30:01.880 --> 01:30:04.039 my music when he grow up. And then he goes back and like he 1333 01:30:04.039 --> 01:30:08.119 hears that he's gonna be hearing like damn, my dad's really like trying to 1334 01:30:08.119 --> 01:30:11.479 better himself as a human. He's like he's making stuff to like so whenever 1335 01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:14.479 he knows, like, oh my dad was making this music, Okay, 1336 01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:18.640 cool, he wasn't over here talking about holes and because his hang out with 1337 01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:21.680 his buddy's dicking around, Like, no, this guy's over here really trying 1338 01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:26.640 to like change. Yeah no, he's really trying to change his life because 1339 01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:30.880 he wants to be emotionally mature. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1340 01:30:30.920 --> 01:30:33.199 I just want to be emotionally mature person because I feel like that's how that's 1341 01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:36.000 that's the best wealth I could give my son, you know what I'm saying, 1342 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:40.399 Because money ain't just ain't gonna be able to give him the full things 1343 01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:45.479 he needs in life. But emotionally, fucking like mature parents, that's where 1344 01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:48.399 they're he's gonna be able to flourish. And like, I want more kids. 1345 01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:51.199 So like in order to have like a tribe, you really have to 1346 01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:57.039 be working on yourself and being balanced. Yeah, no, that that's gonna. 1347 01:30:57.079 --> 01:31:00.119 I know we all often trail off, but like it's just everything has 1348 01:31:00.159 --> 01:31:02.760 its own synchronicity, and it's just like bros, it's like dog, you 1349 01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:09.520 just start from that data level, thinking that period and work out, and 1350 01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:14.239 it's just like we're we're we're fucking magicians. We're fucking frequency magicians. So 1351 01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:18.199 it's like when me I as I go back, it's just only breeds to 1352 01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:23.119 this new genre of music that I'm into. It's not new, it's new 1353 01:31:23.119 --> 01:31:25.560 to the world because everybody looks at it just like I'll tell I'm like, 1354 01:31:25.640 --> 01:31:28.319 dude, how the fuck did you find me? Or like like this shit 1355 01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:30.640 or like and it's like, dude, like it's just this stuff pays the 1356 01:31:30.640 --> 01:31:32.680 bills. This is what's the stuff that was like kind of like, you 1357 01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:36.199 know, my opportunity and I ran with it. Where now I'm at a 1358 01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:39.800 point in my life where I'm just creative. I'm trying to you know, 1359 01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:44.199 try new things and talk about new things because like people need to hear this 1360 01:31:44.279 --> 01:31:45.960 ship. Like my homies need to hear this ship. Bro. Like niggas 1361 01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:50.119 is out here without smoking weed getting like you know what I'm saying, Like, 1362 01:31:50.159 --> 01:31:56.159 bro, this ship the books, y'all niggas is reading Like there I 1363 01:31:56.199 --> 01:32:00.600 ain't seen no white motherfucker that came back residue acted like a bunny. Okay, 1364 01:32:00.760 --> 01:32:05.600 But this motherfucker's out here to see this ship all right, like yeah, 1365 01:32:05.640 --> 01:32:11.279 what, like I can't be crazy because it's happening multiple times. And 1366 01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:15.000 then other motherfuckers that be around these motherfuckers and even like out of a book. 1367 01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:17.359 The poop was even like the like whatever, like that point before that 1368 01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:20.079 pope. Shit, there's some people that up there don't seeing the ship like 1369 01:32:20.079 --> 01:32:24.279 how you said it was like this, Oh shit, yeah, oh ship 1370 01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:29.039 turn a blind turn the blind. The motherfucker's is like what the fuck is 1371 01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:31.880 that? What the w wa? Wait till you get to have you gotten 1372 01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:36.159 a chapter five yet? No? Bro? All right, wait tea whatever, 1373 01:32:36.239 --> 01:32:40.439 like literally they're freaking out and they had like a it's like the ninetieth 1374 01:32:40.479 --> 01:32:43.359 hour before the pope pulls up. I think that's the I think that's the 1375 01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:46.239 first chapter. But it's a pretty it's listen, yeah it listen. I 1376 01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:48.920 don't give a fuck. Yeah, you can do at the first chapter, 1377 01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:54.479 fifth chapter, like you motherfuckers is on some different just even the first chapter, 1378 01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:58.039 like damn, bro, these niggas is profound. Bro, it's profound. 1379 01:32:58.439 --> 01:33:00.039 All right, you guys got a nigga. I had the like real 1380 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:03.760 like I like to say, I'm connected. But you know, the thing 1381 01:33:03.960 --> 01:33:15.520 is called a nigga that knew about the pope's whole, like like what the 1382 01:33:15.560 --> 01:33:18.720 pope was doing when he came in town. Like that's well, I mean, 1383 01:33:21.039 --> 01:33:28.039 I mean that's what happens when you know we this. Yeah, I 1384 01:33:28.039 --> 01:33:31.479 mean the government's been kind of peeking in our home life since you know, 1385 01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:35.720 all those years ago. Wait till Reach chapter five and six, and wait 1386 01:33:35.760 --> 01:33:42.960 till re chapter fourteen. Okay, that's what it's all about. Okay, 1387 01:33:43.119 --> 01:33:46.840 Okay, Hey listen, I got a lot of time and I'll be I'll 1388 01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:50.640 be trying to force feed my mind with information versus just being on this internet. 1389 01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:54.319 It's like hard because we have to be on the internet, you know 1390 01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:57.039 what I'm saying, Like how you're talking about promoting and like, dude, 1391 01:33:57.039 --> 01:34:00.119 the fucking artists got to do content this that I was coming up through. 1392 01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:02.720 All I had to do was make music. Hell's it. We're like, 1393 01:34:03.119 --> 01:34:06.000 I'm not like an old dude and don't change at the time, but I'm 1394 01:34:06.039 --> 01:34:11.000 definitely still like dog fuck, I'm doing all this hard ass ship. I 1395 01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:14.880 had to mix the shit, make the shit shit, and then you mean 1396 01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:17.800 I gotta jump around in front of this fucking camera, not even front of 1397 01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:23.119 you, like in front of this camera, Like I don't know how to 1398 01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:26.840 use this. You gotta do everything. It's not just one thing anymore. 1399 01:34:26.840 --> 01:34:30.600 You have to know how to do every fucking everything. And it's fuck like 1400 01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:34.000 gotta be your own manager, you're own producer, your own lawyer, your 1401 01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:42.039 own seriously serious promoter. Seriously but like it's cool because we're now I feel 1402 01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:45.760 like our society is like there's half of us are like really trying to just 1403 01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:49.880 unite on like like like how you said leading with our hearts, Like we're 1404 01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:53.439 trying to like unite with a different way. We're not trying to just put 1405 01:34:53.439 --> 01:34:59.039 our ideas together because the mind will lie to you, your heart won't as 1406 01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:03.399 yeah, a quote for you, and it's like that shit is just like 1407 01:35:03.479 --> 01:35:06.880 you know, and it's like we're banning together. Think about how we're even 1408 01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:11.399 just like our synchronicity, bro, we're like we all came together or just 1409 01:35:11.479 --> 01:35:15.760 some whole dispiritual shit. It ain't got nothing to do with just like some 1410 01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:23.000 direct shit. We're just in here, just a ship that started, like 1411 01:35:23.199 --> 01:35:25.880 you know what I'm saying. It's really weird. That's how life is the 1412 01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:29.920 magic. It's weird. It's weird. I don't even call it weird anymore. 1413 01:35:29.960 --> 01:35:31.560 It's like, that's what it is. Ready for this, Ricky. 1414 01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:35.399 This is a quote for my dad's book. She stood up from the massive 1415 01:35:35.399 --> 01:35:40.840 throne and hovered over the carved out floor beneath it, never touching the ground, 1416 01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:44.000 Just forty feet away and twenty feet above me. She spoke a parable 1417 01:35:44.039 --> 01:35:46.079 that took a long time for me to process. When the red star of 1418 01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:49.960 Regulus aligns just before dawn and the gaze of the Sphinx, a new knowledge 1419 01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:54.119 shall come into the world. I was not sure what that meant. I 1420 01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:57.399 have come to understand that around Easter of two thou twenty six, there will 1421 01:35:57.439 --> 01:36:00.920 be the end of an old way in the beginning of a new. Yes, 1422 01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:05.479 that's the information and the not like because like, fortunately, there's a 1423 01:36:05.479 --> 01:36:09.600 lot of people, there's a lot of my friends that don't understand the hell 1424 01:36:09.640 --> 01:36:15.039 I'm talking about. They don't understand about self awareness and not just like self 1425 01:36:15.039 --> 01:36:17.359 awareness is just not being like a where are your problems? Bro? Like 1426 01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:19.760 no, like are you present? Like are you here? Like right now? 1427 01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:21.880 Like where are you? Like where are you at? Like are you 1428 01:36:23.239 --> 01:36:29.560 still caught up in all this stuff, like you know, and you can't 1429 01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:32.359 lie to us anymore. It's not just conpiracies no more. Bro Like, 1430 01:36:32.399 --> 01:36:36.119 it's just you just can't lie to us no more. It's just it's at 1431 01:36:36.119 --> 01:36:40.600 a point where there's too many people that could talk to each other, Like 1432 01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:43.159 you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't think a lot of our 1433 01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:50.199 governments or like the people of power understood what technology did for communication. Oh 1434 01:36:50.359 --> 01:36:54.159 yeah, it gave us the tools. I'm gonna give you a little spoiler. 1435 01:36:56.000 --> 01:37:00.399 Essentially. One of the main reasons why UM NASA, the CIA, 1436 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:03.560 just in the Department of Defense in general, has been so fascinated by my 1437 01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:10.600 family and has kept such um a close watch on us is because in twenty 1438 01:37:10.720 --> 01:37:15.119 twelve, my dad had an experience with this female entity that told him basically, 1439 01:37:15.119 --> 01:37:17.640 when this star alignment happens, which is what I just read to you, 1440 01:37:17.800 --> 01:37:20.479 we're gonna enter the age of Aquarius, and we're gonna enter a new 1441 01:37:20.520 --> 01:37:25.560 knowledge and it's going to be a world of peace and U basically there's some 1442 01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:40.760 bad motherfuckers. Yeah, I'm wake up. Are you gonna be fucking slow 1443 01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:44.560 and just stay back and just like keep getting lied to. Are you actually 1444 01:37:45.079 --> 01:37:47.079 like, open your mind. I'm not telling you that you have to believe 1445 01:37:47.119 --> 01:37:50.880 what the fucking the Bledsoe family it's trying to tell you, because not all 1446 01:37:50.960 --> 01:37:55.600 information is for everybody, But like, at least hear it out here, 1447 01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:59.560 your motherfuck is out I think about it. No, not even think I 1448 01:37:59.600 --> 01:38:05.039 wrote. Hear him out listen, like because actually listen, actually not even 1449 01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:10.039 hear him out. Listen, because just hearing somebody is just letting somebody ramble, 1450 01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:13.920 you know what I'm saying, Yeah, just rebuttal I want, like, 1451 01:38:14.039 --> 01:38:17.199 let listen listen to him. You can walk away with an agree to 1452 01:38:17.279 --> 01:38:20.760 disagree. Unfortunately, right now we're in a weird error where we can't agree 1453 01:38:20.760 --> 01:38:24.840 to disagree, Like we can't learn something and walk away and be like, 1454 01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:28.279 damn, he taught me some shit. I might not believe or like agree 1455 01:38:28.319 --> 01:38:30.800 with him, but his standpoint in the evidence that he gave me makes me 1456 01:38:30.840 --> 01:38:35.239 be like, yo, your fucking stance is valid, bro, valid So 1457 01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:41.720 at that side of the table. No, but I can acknowledge you're side 1458 01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:45.039 of the fucking table. And why can't we get to that? Why can't 1459 01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:47.039 we just sit there and be like, oh, let's hear him out because 1460 01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:53.800 everybody thinks they're right. Oh yeah, exactly. The open minded people know 1461 01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:57.600 that it's silly to think you're always right. Bro. I used to be 1462 01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:00.479 that that fucking naive. I used to be naive until I met my wife. 1463 01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:14.079 Wife, If I worry about the federal agents, I got a wife 1464 01:39:14.720 --> 01:39:18.039 found out anything before I can even say it. Yeah, that's just the 1465 01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:21.640 best policy. Honesty with your wife in fact. Oh no, just honestly 1466 01:39:21.680 --> 01:39:26.439 with yourself. Yeah, true, true, I mean that's the best policy, 1467 01:39:26.600 --> 01:39:29.880 you know, because like I was, like I wasn't even being honest 1468 01:39:29.880 --> 01:39:31.399 with myself and a lot of things and like, but like that comes with 1469 01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:36.359 from my my childhood trauma, from my zero to seven and uh, you 1470 01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:43.920 know, uh, it's just now I'm in a point where there's too much 1471 01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:45.960 information out here for me to not look at it. And I open the 1472 01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:49.800 book. You know what I'm saying, Like, there's too much. I 1473 01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:54.840 have too much curiosity to not sit there. Buy the book, you know 1474 01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:57.319 what I'm saying. Which, by the way, y'all motherfucker's buy the book. 1475 01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:03.520 I'm friends with. These motherfuckers, got back the book. You being 1476 01:40:03.560 --> 01:40:10.399 a mother. Dude's comments section okay, be at the meat packing factory over 1477 01:40:10.439 --> 01:40:14.079 there talking to her. Oh yeah, bro, yes, king all that 1478 01:40:14.159 --> 01:40:16.399 bullshit, but don't even support your homies. Bro, Like, you know 1479 01:40:16.439 --> 01:40:23.159 what I'm saying, Go buy the book Oh God, by my boy Christiner 1480 01:40:23.319 --> 01:40:29.600 Blas. So yeah, go get my boy's book, because you're gonna be 1481 01:40:29.640 --> 01:40:32.279 hearing my music. You're gonna hear the influence that has had on me just 1482 01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:36.920 from even just from how how has impacted a person who I care about. 1483 01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:40.640 You know what I'm saying, It's like, man, if he's saying that 1484 01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:45.600 he's giving me his testimony and his evidence, and it says a whole bunch 1485 01:40:45.600 --> 01:40:47.840 of table evidence. Man, Come on, like I said, buy the 1486 01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:54.239 book, you o God, buy the book. Are you talking about Tom 1487 01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:57.720 like your friend that's been impacted? You know? I got message. I 1488 01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:00.039 got a direct message from a fan of the Pie cast a few days ago 1489 01:41:00.359 --> 01:41:03.159 and it was somebody like sent me a screenshot he was at a Chelsea Grin 1490 01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:05.920 show. He said, dude, no way. At the end of the 1491 01:41:05.960 --> 01:41:11.199 show, Tom sat down on stage and said, I want to let you 1492 01:41:11.239 --> 01:41:14.199 guys off easy. There's not gonna be an encore tonight, but I wanted 1493 01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:17.600 to talk to you about something. We are all manifestations of God as light 1494 01:41:17.680 --> 01:41:23.439 beings here on earth. We're all doing it. Listen, he doesn't tom 1495 01:41:23.479 --> 01:41:26.560 because he'll sit there and let because you know, these are the people that 1496 01:41:26.640 --> 01:41:30.119 people forget about. The cool thing about metal shows is like, man, 1497 01:41:30.399 --> 01:41:32.920 those are the motherfuckers that, like, you know, they get kind of 1498 01:41:32.920 --> 01:41:38.239 forgotten about little Yeah, like they gotta get slipped through the cracks. There's 1499 01:41:38.279 --> 01:41:41.720 still human beings. They're around us, they're right there with us. And 1500 01:41:41.760 --> 01:41:45.239 it's just like, Bro, you gotta remind some of these people how special 1501 01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:53.159 they are. Bro, Like yeah, and it's it really changed his life. 1502 01:41:53.560 --> 01:41:58.840 Shit, Bro, it's already been changed in mind. And I even 1503 01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:02.600 met you motherfucker's yet. But that's when you know it's real. That's when 1504 01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:05.000 you know something like you know, we don't have to change that, Bro, 1505 01:42:05.199 --> 01:42:08.479 I don't know. I don't. I don't listen. There's a certain 1506 01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:12.399 things I don't believe in quincidence. Oh yeah, that's and like I have 1507 01:42:12.479 --> 01:42:15.760 dejabu all the time, so I already notice is like some type of looper. 1508 01:42:15.279 --> 01:42:18.119 But it's like things happen for like you know what I'm saying, for 1509 01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:21.159 the purposeful reasons now, at least my life. There's a lot of things, 1510 01:42:21.159 --> 01:42:24.920 Like I wasn't in looking at the patterns, but it's like, man, 1511 01:42:25.479 --> 01:42:28.279 like this shit, Yeah, there's a reason. There's a reason. 1512 01:42:28.399 --> 01:42:31.000 There's a reason why I'm like over here questions thing. That's the reason why 1513 01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:34.079 I'm repaired to myself, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, that's 1514 01:42:34.439 --> 01:42:40.359 that's how we changed. Like just changing generational trauma isn't just like oh, 1515 01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:42.720 nothing to do what you did, Like, no, bro, we gotta 1516 01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:45.960 do all these shits. We gotta do this work. We gotta challenge our 1517 01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:48.600 moments, we gotta challenge the perspectives of shit, like really do it with 1518 01:42:49.039 --> 01:42:54.000 the pureness of heart. Yeah, I feel like I feel like that healing 1519 01:42:54.359 --> 01:43:00.359 the generational or the childhood trauma thing is it's probably a big key to opening 1520 01:43:00.439 --> 01:43:05.720 up to spiritual concepts, like opening up spiritually and and kind of becoming your 1521 01:43:05.800 --> 01:43:11.359 higher self. Like I think I almost feel like it's a hard barrier. 1522 01:43:11.479 --> 01:43:15.840 I mean not to say you couldn't do it without doing that necessarily, but 1523 01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:21.479 I think it is a very important step or key into Yeah, yeah, 1524 01:43:21.520 --> 01:43:27.479 opening up your consciousness to these sorts of things. Damn right, damn fucking 1525 01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:30.039 right, I'm rolling this joint. No, yeah, it's all good. 1526 01:43:30.279 --> 01:43:39.880 So it's all good. Yeah, that's also a key right there. That's 1527 01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:43.039 another little short cut right there. Oh yeah, shit, man, you 1528 01:43:43.119 --> 01:43:58.079 make me want to join you my anxiety of best trauma of course. Yeah. 1529 01:43:58.159 --> 01:44:01.560 Yeah. The episode band, No, man, that's not it's and 1530 01:44:01.920 --> 01:44:05.640 and dude. If it has been on YouTube, Yeah, we've had a 1531 01:44:05.680 --> 01:44:11.319 guest before on camera smoke did we? Oh we did? It was our 1532 01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:15.680 first guest. I'm gonna be in solidarity with you, Ricky so fuck yeah, 1533 01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:26.199 don't believe me. Let me hear I'm in the dungeon. In the 1534 01:44:26.319 --> 01:44:30.279 dungeon, No, in the real life, selling man the basement. Hell 1535 01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:33.239 yeah, damn. I've had a good time with you boys. I feel 1536 01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:38.800 like we've covered a lot of good stuff tonight. But based on our previous 1537 01:44:38.840 --> 01:44:41.840 conversations, I feel like we got some gas left in you for another future 1538 01:44:41.880 --> 01:44:45.680 conversation. Damn right, bro, I'm still just lit this up man. 1539 01:44:49.720 --> 01:44:53.279 Hell yeah, man, I can't wait to hear that music for real. 1540 01:44:53.560 --> 01:44:56.640 Yeah, I sign it for you guys to hear it. I'm I can't 1541 01:44:56.680 --> 01:44:59.720 wait. I sent you too, I sent you that that believe me now 1542 01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:04.720 that you want another one called Trader. That one is like kind of like 1543 01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:09.359 our heaviest stuff, but like that one is just like solely me on that 1544 01:45:09.479 --> 01:45:13.439 one. Like that one's just me. But I'll send you another one like 1545 01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:19.000 another few. Well, look, the EP, the r EP is gonna 1546 01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:23.439 be finished this week, so maybe we'll just have to send it over to 1547 01:45:23.479 --> 01:45:30.399 our buddy Ricky to get his listen, especially that you guys are two piece, 1548 01:45:30.479 --> 01:45:32.640 like you know what I'm saying, Well, I ain't. We'll three 1549 01:45:32.720 --> 01:45:36.159 piece now because my brother's in the band, but he's vocals. Yeah oh 1550 01:45:36.279 --> 01:45:44.520 yeah yeah, I sent you the other day. Really and you a guitar 1551 01:45:44.720 --> 01:45:51.079 your brother on fucking singing? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 1552 01:45:51.159 --> 01:45:55.399 yeah, I do the guitar or the bass. I'm still doing some of 1553 01:45:55.479 --> 01:45:59.640 the vocals. Uh, I'm gonna do like Jeremy will. We'll be doing 1554 01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:03.439 like going forward um. And then you know, any any kind of like 1555 01:46:03.640 --> 01:46:09.079 keys or any fancy stuff that goes in there. I do that stuff too. 1556 01:46:09.520 --> 01:46:16.840 But Jeremy, I leave majority of the sea with with Ryan's brother Jeremy. 1557 01:46:16.920 --> 01:46:21.199 We just we had this inkling like yo, I bet he's really good 1558 01:46:21.239 --> 01:46:27.479 at screaming, and turns out he's been like basically practicing for like fifteen years 1559 01:46:27.600 --> 01:46:32.000 with with nob yeah, with nobody knowing and no project to dedicate it to. 1560 01:46:32.279 --> 01:46:34.760 So I was like, Yo, come to a feature and we'll just 1561 01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:38.720 try it out. We'll have fun. And and he came in there, 1562 01:46:38.760 --> 01:46:45.239 bro and one take everything it was destroyed it and I was like, hey, 1563 01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:47.880 I'm stepping down. I was like, I'm not doing the vocals anymore. 1564 01:46:47.920 --> 01:46:56.399 He's doing the vocals. So I'm sending you just exactly exactly exactly. 1565 01:46:56.479 --> 01:46:59.520 I was like, I'm sending you a video. It's it's a video because 1566 01:46:59.640 --> 01:47:02.600 there's so is short and I just screen capped a Google dry file, but 1567 01:47:02.640 --> 01:47:06.000 it's the song. I'm sending you, the song that we just recorded with 1568 01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:12.079 my brother, which is the first song that he was like on it the 1569 01:47:12.119 --> 01:47:14.319 whole time, not just a feature. So this is Nick and Jeremy. 1570 01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:16.600 You're gonna hear both vocals, but this, this is uh, this is 1571 01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:19.520 what we're working with, and you know, we can regroup on that. 1572 01:47:19.640 --> 01:47:24.000 And I'm definitely gonna be listening to your stuff tonight and then um oh I 1573 01:47:24.039 --> 01:47:30.720 can't wait. Yes, oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, no nost to 1574 01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:32.840 it immediately. Yeah, I wish we could. I wish we could have 1575 01:47:32.960 --> 01:47:35.960 like a freaking I wish it would like listening party, but it's not out 1576 01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:41.399 so that way. Yeah, you know, and it's all right, but 1577 01:47:41.800 --> 01:47:45.319 no, thank you guys for having me bro so sick. It's been a 1578 01:47:45.399 --> 01:47:49.439 blessing likewise, and I'll definitely keep you updated on our Like you know what 1579 01:47:49.439 --> 01:47:53.600 I'm saying. If you make our way through North Carolina, I think my 1580 01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:57.960 wife would be definitely interested in doing so because we don't we're not going to 1581 01:47:57.960 --> 01:48:01.359 be Russian anyway, So yeah, if you give more family road trip and 1582 01:48:01.479 --> 01:48:04.920 so that's what ye're just doing right now. What's a good time. We 1583 01:48:05.079 --> 01:48:10.840 know all the all the fire spots in Fayetteville for food too, so we'll 1584 01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:13.439 take care of y'all. Yeah, and I lived two hours away, so 1585 01:48:13.640 --> 01:48:15.479 just like I know, I know you're gonna be on a road trip and 1586 01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:18.640 it's probably gonna be a lot of like, um, sponsor, I need 1587 01:48:18.680 --> 01:48:21.680 to get the experience. I can't. Well, I'm just saying, just 1588 01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:26.039 give me, like, if possible, give me like a day or two 1589 01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:28.640 in advance. Oh no, yeah, yeah, give me little heads up, 1590 01:48:28.720 --> 01:48:33.319 just a little bit of heads up, Yeah, so that I can 1591 01:48:33.399 --> 01:48:36.079 get over there. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, you feel me. 1592 01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:40.640 Hey, it's been a blessing having you on man. Um oh man, 1593 01:48:40.800 --> 01:48:43.800 thank you guys for having me. Thank you, thank you for having 1594 01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:47.359 me, man, thank you for having us and oh dude, yeah, 1595 01:48:47.399 --> 01:48:49.840 definitely got to do it again. I mean everybody, are we in agreement? 1596 01:48:49.880 --> 01:48:54.560 We gotta do yeah you can't yes, yes, oh yeah, okay, 1597 01:48:54.640 --> 01:48:58.119 cool, Um, this one would come out in June, but I'm 1598 01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:00.880 feeling like we might want to pump this one out. Hey, whatever you 1599 01:49:00.920 --> 01:49:02.880 want to do, man, you can. I'm all for it, literally 1600 01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:06.119 all for it, you know. Yeah. I think we release it early 1601 01:49:06.239 --> 01:49:11.359 as possible. We can juice anybody that listens to this. We'll hear about 1602 01:49:11.439 --> 01:49:14.800 his h his music, music and yeah, but I push your project too. 1603 01:49:15.319 --> 01:49:16.680 Oh yeah yeah yeah, yeah, for sure. We do enough of 1604 01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:20.520 that on our own. Yeah, we want to what the official date? 1605 01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:24.840 Oh, the off it's the last Friday of this month, So the official 1606 01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:28.960 date is May twenty six. The full EP will be out. Yeah, 1607 01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:34.520 the full EP out. It's called it's called Mythos by Twice Born. What 1608 01:49:34.640 --> 01:49:43.800 do you think it's got? The good Day Day I appreciate it. Man. 1609 01:49:51.439 --> 01:49:59.720 Yeah, a good tricky tricky ricky Ricky, Yeah, you're the man. 1610 01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:04.720 Oh it just dropped out. He's like, oh, okay, well, 1611 01:50:06.239 --> 01:50:09.640 I guess wait wait wait, don't in the recording, hold on, 1612 01:50:09.720 --> 01:50:13.920 we gotta Alexan visit the button. Melanie's off. Um, I guess we're 1613 01:50:13.960 --> 01:50:20.960 gonna do a traditional um by guys, Bye, guys. Happened in the 1614 01:50:21.039 --> 01:50:36.920 backyard. What so house got so weird, kind of closer to my hair, 1615 01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:46.359 staystraight up, like smiraling on the inside of it. No one knows. 1616 01:50:50.159 --> 01:51:12.960 Wow, come right, shine, be happy.