WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:08.039 Streaming live. I mean iHeartRadio. This is I on the Ball with Steve 2 00:00:08.119 --> 00:00:17.839 Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I was writing for you 3 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:21.920 to say something right like, I guess I haven't gotten used to the fact 4 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:25.199 that I'm not the one that brings in the show. Welcome back on the 5 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:28.760 balling on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Jay Gonzalez. Uh, trying not 6 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:31.920 to mess this up, but I'm doing top of it. Of messing it 7 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:36.399 up. I'm here with Ryan or our intern running the show. Steve is 8 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:40.640 still out, hopefully he'll be back on Monday, and we are. I 9 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:46.159 guess we're at that point. Ryan, some breaking news news. We're not. 10 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:52.679 Oh, no news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. You know what, 11 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:58.320 Okay, you know, never never fail here. Hey, at least it 12 00:00:58.399 --> 00:01:04.280 came on right. What have we got? Start with? Start with University 13 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:11.879 of Arizona. A little bit of news from the Arizona Athletics announcing Arizona Sports 14 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:18.599 Enterprises as the new multimedia rights affiliate. The previous affiliate was Learfield as the 15 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:23.920 right rights holders. This is quoted saying the creation of Arizona Sports Enterprises will 16 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:32.319 allow Arizona athletics to strengthen its connection to corporate sponsors and elevate Arizona Athletics as 17 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:37.239 a brand and allow the athletics department to focus on delivering more value to its 18 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:42.519 partners. Clearly something that the new ad Desiree read Francois is kind of like, 19 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:49.120 you know, in terms of she's setting up the organizational structure of athletics. 20 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:56.359 It looks like they're separating as its own entity. The whole media rights 21 00:01:56.760 --> 00:02:00.200 piece of this probably going to hire some people who are experts in the US. 22 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:07.400 UH. You know liar Field has been Liffield handles or does metiaites for 23 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:12.759 multiple UH athletic programs in the country. You know, you hear their name. 24 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:15.639 You know, you know liar Field sports presentation at the say at the 25 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:20.240 end of a radio broadcast or whatever. I don't know the structure of that. 26 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:25.280 I know that within the the Arizona Athletics organization there's something called Arizona Wildcats 27 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:29.960 Sports Properties. I don't know if this is what's being lifted out of there, 28 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:34.560 but that's the organization where Brian Jeffries works as a as a as an 29 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:38.759 athletic department. I don't know if I guess he's an Athletic Department employee. 30 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:43.560 His title is listed director of Broadcasting and Voice of the Wildcats. Dana Cooper, 31 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:46.960 a guy that we've known for a long time, is senior manager of 32 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:50.400 business Development. These are the guys that go out there and get the corporate 33 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:53.840 sponsorships and stuff like that. So I just wonder, is this group being 34 00:02:53.919 --> 00:03:00.280 lifted out of the Athletic Department and being you know, part of a it's 35 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:05.560 a separate organization, a separate business, maybe with a whole as a whole, 36 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:07.759 separate entity. I don't know what if that's what we're talking about, 37 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:15.639 but something different as it relates to meteorites, whether it's TV, radio, 38 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:20.400 whatever is happening. Somebody's gonna have to come in and explain this to us. 39 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:24.840 And I'm well, you know, look for there's on Daily Star and 40 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:29.479 see you know, they're gonna have to do a story about this. But 41 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:32.840 you know, there's all these there's I think I'm counting there's eight people in 42 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:39.560 that Arizona Wildcat Sports properties organizations listed in the staff directory of the Athletic Department. 43 00:03:40.520 --> 00:03:44.400 Are all those people a part of this or they create a whole new 44 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:46.960 entity and they'll have to hire Brian Jefferies to continue to be the voice of 45 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:51.400 the Wildcats. Well, I don't know, I have no idea what it 46 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:54.960 all means. So this is I guess it's like, are they trying to 47 00:03:55.000 --> 00:04:02.039 create another channel for the Arizona Wildcats athletics like them? It could be, 48 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.319 you know, it could be. And now I think you know media rights 49 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:11.439 and deals when when you when you got we know too much about this, 50 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:16.360 right, the U of A. Uh, they do what's called a grant 51 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:21.120 of rights that they've given to the Big twelve to negotiate the TV piece. 52 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:28.360 Right, but there's still radio, there's still corporate sponsorships. Uh, you 53 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:31.639 know all kinds of things where nil fits in there now in terms of raising 54 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:38.240 money because you know the program is going to be directly paying athletes. I 55 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.560 don't know where all of that's going to fit, but you know, hopefully 56 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:44.839 somebody will flushed this out for us at some point. But it looks like 57 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:49.399 you know who the they're creative separate entity to handle the corporate sponsorships piece and 58 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:56.399 the when they say multimedia rights, I'm guessing you know radio rights streaming of 59 00:04:56.560 --> 00:05:00.399 radio broadcasts, because for instance, if you want to if if you wanted 60 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:03.360 to listen, uh, you know, if you're out of out of Tucson, 61 00:05:03.519 --> 00:05:08.680 out of you know, twelve nineties range, right, and you wanted 62 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:12.319 to listen to an Arizona football game or an Arizona bag baseball game or whatever, 63 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:15.800 baseball, basketball, football, you had to do it through an app 64 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:26.680 called Varsity on your phone. And Varsity has multiple, uh, multiple athletic 65 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:29.759 programs where you want, there's a whole directory of them in Arizona. Was 66 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:31.560 just was just one of them, so that if you want it, you 67 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:33.680 know, if you're I was in Rocky Point, right and I wanted to 68 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:39.399 listen to a baseball game, I went to Varsity, you know that kind 69 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:43.759 of So that piece of it, I'm guessing is a part of when they're 70 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:48.040 talking about multimedia rights and those kinds of things. So I'm sure, you 71 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:51.439 know, somebody's gonna have to do a story on this, and we'll wait 72 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:55.040 to see when that comes out, because it's just this just came out a 73 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:58.079 little bit ago. We just found out about this, so it's brand new, 74 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:00.680 and I think there's a lot of you know, we're gonna have a 75 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:02.759 lot of questions about it, and they didn't go deep and it was a 76 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:09.439 three paragraph news really, so they didn't go deep into exactly what this means 77 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:13.120 other than you know, they they wanted to do. It. Looks like 78 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:16.560 you want to separate it to become its own entity, and and so those 79 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.879 uh, those people in that in it can be focused on it and not 80 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:25.560 have to worry about all the other stuff that goes on in the athletic department. 81 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:29.560 So well, see, it sounds like a big deal. Probably is 82 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.800 a big deal. But we'll, I guess we'll find out how much how 83 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.720 big of a deal it it ultimately becomes, and what what it means to 84 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:41.600 us the fans in terms of how we take in u of a sports. 85 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:45.240 Yeah, I'm sure next like next month, we'll probably we'll hear more about 86 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:46.399 that kind of stuff. I'm open to hear more tomorrow. And there's some 87 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.920 day to start. Guys, you got somebody's working on this, you know. 88 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:53.639 I'm sure, I'm sure somebody this afternoon was getting you looking at their 89 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:55.600 watch. Okay, I'm i out here in a couple hours, all of 90 00:06:55.600 --> 00:07:00.959 a sudden, you got to do a story on this calling and help us 91 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:06.519 exactly exactly, all right, Sticking with u A. There was a news 92 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:12.480 article from this afternoon. Four Arizona football players were named excuse me, Athlon 93 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:18.319 Sports Preseason All Americans. Okay, wide receiver team Mac was named Sports first 94 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:24.439 team All American squad, while cornerback Cario Davis got a third team spot, 95 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:31.360 and both linebacker Manu and I'm not gonna try to say that Jonah Jonah uh 96 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:35.399 Manu and Sauvon Ao made the fourth team. Well, okay, all right, 97 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:39.839 four guys you know getting some preseason pub you know, Ta Max can 98 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:42.279 get a lot of that. There's way more of that to come, h 99 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:46.839 for sure. And and I think Jacob mon is another guy that man, 100 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.199 you you hope that this is a year that you just see him. I 101 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:53.120 mean, he broke out last year, but I mean he can be you 102 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:58.199 know, a national type uh linebacker, you know, top linebacker this year. 103 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:01.600 So you see what what happened there with Jacob Monin all right, I 104 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:05.839 think there was Like now, it makes twelve total players on the preseason team 105 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:11.360 that have made that have gotten some preseason stuff All Americans. Good talk for 106 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:16.000 graduations. Switching over to boxing, a little bit of news out of there. 107 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:22.680 Ryan Garcia has been suspended from boxing given a massive mind for PD violation. 108 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:31.319 Yep, he he got. He tested positive uh before and after the 109 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:33.279 day before, in the day of a pay per refight he had against Devin 110 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:39.840 Haney for something called osteen, which is a performance enhancing drug. This happened 111 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:45.759 back in early May. He beat Haney and it was Haney's first loss of 112 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:50.440 his career. Now with with this was back in April. Now with this 113 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:54.639 happening, the game the game. The fight is declared a no contest, 114 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.840 so Haney is still undefeated. Again, He's thirty one to oh. No, 115 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:03.240 only does Garcia lose a million dollars he got for the fight, he's 116 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:07.480 also finding another ten thousand dollars so he can't pull the ten thousand dollars from 117 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:13.200 the million to pay the fine. So again, I don't know. I 118 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:20.399 don't know. Guys, you're gonna get caught. Yep, you're gonna get 119 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:24.879 caught. What are you doing? Back in May, he denied the reports 120 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:28.919 of the failed drug test. I said it didn't happen. He because everybody 121 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.679 knows I don't cheat. I've never taken a steroid. Well apparently he did, 122 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.480 and now he's in he's in big trouble. So there you go, 123 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:39.200 don't they do they do? You know, it was fine because there was 124 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:43.519 a discussion I think it was yesterday on Dan Patrick's show talking about Lance Armstrong, 125 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:46.879 you know, and how he was not only was he denying that he 126 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:52.519 was using, he was trying to destroy anybody who accused him of using, 127 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.519 and it was just, you know, a really bad, really bad thing. 128 00:09:54.519 --> 00:09:58.080 And then ultimately, you know, he admitted that he did. And 129 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:03.559 you know, well that that's probably the one that sticks out as the most 130 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:09.000 egregious one of all some there you go. Going back to University of Arizona, 131 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:13.000 we had a little bit of news from the US Olympic Trials. We 132 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:18.320 had some Arizona track and field that are going to be participating. Right in 133 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:26.320 large the picture here, Trayvon White Austin is one. He's in one hundred 134 00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:30.440 meters and two hundred meters. Tyson Tippett also in one hundred and two hundred 135 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:37.000 meters, Imma Gates for the high jump. There's Minkinski, mckinski also a 136 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:41.720 high jumper. Pierce the coast. The cost, the cost in the long 137 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:46.720 jump jump, Sir Jonathan Simms is going to be long, long and triple 138 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:56.480 jump Jannika Bosco also long jump, Sydney Bennick long jump, and then post 139 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:03.720 grad participants. You have in Jordan Guist to get and then Bonds, Tally 140 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:11.399 Bonds, Tally Bonds both past show participants. We've had both Jordan Geiston and 141 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:15.159 Tally Bond's on the show. She's in a one hundred meter hurdles and uh 142 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:18.759 and Guyston the shot put in the hammer. So good luck to all of 143 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:20.840 them. I happened to I didn't get a chance to say to I saw 144 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:26.559 fred Fred Harvey at Bob Dobbs yesterday having lunch, so I'm guessing he's going 145 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:31.600 to be at the at these tryouts which are start tomorrow and run through June 146 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:37.240 thirtieth up at the University of University of Oregon. You can watch some of 147 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.840 this stuff on Peacock and NBC, but it takes a good nine days to 148 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:46.080 put together the Olympic team. So and it's like either you're in, or 149 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:48.039 you were good enough to get in, or you weren't good enough to get 150 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:54.000 in. We did report to Landy Schanell, the diver from Arizona, UH 151 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.799 past diver from Arizona. She's in in the synchronized diving. Two persons synchronized 152 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:01.679 diving for the second time. Got to sell her metal last time, so 153 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.840 she's in. So you know, there's getting some getting some people in there. 154 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.000 So we'll see how that goes. Good luck to all of them, 155 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:11.919 you know, you you hope that you know, they pull out a spectacular 156 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.840 performance and get in. That would be very cool, all right. Takes 157 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.279 a lot of hard work to be in the Olympics. It does, yes, 158 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:22.519 it does. I mean they worked so hard. They were so hard 159 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:26.559 and you know, you don't get in. It's like it's kind of for 160 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:30.399 not right, but it good and good that they all got got a chance 161 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.440 to get into the trials. I think the last name we just we'll just 162 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:37.240 finish up with here is going back to what we started getting the show with 163 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:43.320 the n CUAA presenting. They're now presenting tournament plans to expand up to seventy 164 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:48.799 six teams. You're gonna get me going again. Man, I hate it, 165 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.399 I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, I hate 166 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.159 it, I hate it and I hate it and uh, you know again, 167 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:58.919 sometimes you just got to leave good stuff alone. And they're not going 168 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:05.919 to uh, they're gonna do this and you know, those of us who 169 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:09.480 think it's stupid. It's like we have no say, right, you know, 170 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.039 they they they want more money. And I get it, you need 171 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:16.679 more money because of what's going on. But money can't decide everything. And 172 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:22.480 excuse me, and the fact that they're doing this just tells me they don't 173 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:28.039 really think these things out. They don't, you know. It's like, 174 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.200 Okay, we can make more money, so let's make it instead of thinking 175 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.440 what's the right thing to do, well, you know, what's a good 176 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:37.840 thing to do. And it just it just bothers me that that they do 177 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:39.679 that. All right, we're gonna take our next break. We're gonna come 178 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:43.200 back. Greg Hanson will be joining us on the on the phone. We'll 179 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.519 talk about some you know this, uh with with Willie May's passion away, 180 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:50.519 just go into some some history, uh he and I, uh, you 181 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.519 know, we remember the good old days and when these guys were coming up, 182 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:56.879 Willie May's, Mickey Mann or Sandy Colefax, those kinds of guys. 183 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:03.039 And Willie Mays is being missed. This event that they're doing tonight in Alabama 184 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.480 was partly for him. And I saw a picture of the field they put 185 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:11.679 a big twenty four Willie Mays's number on the field, and it's too bad 186 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.639 he's going to miss this, but I'm sure we'll hear more than once. 187 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:18.000 He's looking down on it and probably smiling so as he always did. So 188 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:22.039 stick around. 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I would 261 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:27.599 say, I hope you don't take this as an insult, Greg, but 262 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:33.200 your resident Dorian, which basically means you're old, and I hope you understand 263 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:41.000 I say it with love and admiration that you know you're the old guy in 264 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:45.000 the room who knows the most about what we talk about when we get going 265 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.559 to the history of baseball. Okay, Willie Mays has passed away one of 266 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:52.920 the great guys. I you know, as I shouldn't say. It doesn't 267 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.519 pay me to say this that I think he was the best baseball player ever. 268 00:19:56.920 --> 00:20:00.839 I'm gonna put you on the spot because those who know you know you're 269 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:06.359 a huge Mickey Mantle fan. Okay, you know you wore number seven when 270 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:11.000 we played baseball. You're a huge Yankee fan. Willie Mays or Mickey Mantle. 271 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:17.880 In terms of the best you ever saw, I'd say Willie and his 272 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.000 career was longer and had better numbers and he could do a sing or two 273 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:27.160 more than Mickey could. You know, I think back, it's what do 274 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:30.279 you think? It's Baby Rue and Willie one and one a all time in 275 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:33.960 baseball. Yeah, you have to think that, right, And I know 276 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:36.839 that. You know, we didn't get to see, you know, Babe 277 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:38.440 Ruth, we don't know what he looked like out in the field. We 278 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:42.200 see old you know, old movie clips of him, but we never saw 279 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.480 him play. We did see Willie Mays play, now, it was a 280 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:49.079 long time ago, and uh, you know I was I was saying that, 281 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:53.119 you know, the Giants used to come here during spring training to play 282 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:56.359 the Indians. I know I saw him play. I just don't remember it, 283 00:20:56.680 --> 00:21:00.319 right, I don't remember. I don't have a vision of Willie Mays 284 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:07.160 out in center field at High Corbett Field. But you know I saw him 285 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.599 play enough on TV, and I paid attention to the Giants because you know, 286 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:14.240 as a Dodger fan, he was the greatest effort at that in my 287 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:18.400 mind. Oh yeah, mine too. You know, I looked it up 288 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:22.880 today in the archives. He played his first game on High Corbett Field in 289 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.400 March of fifty two, and they and they broke their all time attendance record 290 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:33.119 that day and Willie went three for three. He was twenty, he was 291 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:37.359 twenty, Yeah, because that's what he does, right, and that and 292 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:40.880 that's what he that's what he did. You know, he was just that. 293 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.799 He was just that guy. And you know, I guess you know 294 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:45.519 when I when I hear that he played it well obviously fifty one, right, 295 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:48.880 because that's when he made you know, that iconic catch that that we 296 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.519 see all the time. But he played you know, I remember him into 297 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:57.079 the mid sixties and he was still really damn good. Oh shouldn't he was 298 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:03.920 well? And in sixty five he hit fifty two homers, one hundred and 299 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:07.160 twelve. Rby Eisen was the MVP. So he was. He was in 300 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:14.880 his mid to late thirties then. Yeah, so he just wasn't you know. 301 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:19.359 Just his career was productive from fifteen to seventeen years. Yeah. Yeah. 302 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:22.960 You know, what I never understood is how a guy who was as 303 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:26.440 bow legged as he was could run as fast as as fast he he like 304 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.880 walked on the sides of his feet, and yet he would take off running 305 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:34.599 and he was so fast his hat would always fly off whenever he was you 306 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:37.400 know, he was running or stealing a base or you know, trying to 307 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:41.839 catch a ball. It was just amazing to see. And look, there 308 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:45.039 have been a lot of great players since then. And I don't want to 309 00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.160 be the get off my long guy that says there hasn't. But you know, 310 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:52.440 and and we we we try and anoint some of these players. Were 311 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:56.440 anointing Shoeyo Tani as you know, one of the best players in the history 312 00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:59.839 of Major League base while he's still pretty young and we still don't know, 313 00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.960 he still got a lot to do. But you know, when I when 314 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:07.400 I really really sit and think about it, I just don't can't come up 315 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:11.119 with somebody since then who I thought was a better player. Not King Griffy 316 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:17.680 Jr. Not Pete Rose, not Joe Morgan, not you know, anybody. 317 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:19.799 I just don't. I don't have anybody who could do all the things 318 00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:26.359 that he did. Well. Don't you think the term five tool player came 319 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:29.279 about because of Willie May? It had to, right, I mean, 320 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:33.799 didn't it have to? I mean, Shoey O'tani is a two tool player. 321 00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:38.119 Yeah, yeah, maybe a three tool player, but WILLI was He's 322 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:42.200 got to be the first five tool because Ted Williams, lou gerrig and those 323 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:48.279 guys weren't five tool players. Yeah, I mean he established a whole new 324 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:56.720 breed of baseball. Well, he said, he kind of set a standard 325 00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.640 for how how good you have to be to be the best, right, 326 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.440 to be able to do all of those things and not just a couple of 327 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:06.839 them. Right, you make you make a good point about show. Hey, 328 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.720 he's a great hitter. Yeah, you know he's you know when he 329 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:14.599 when he can pitch, he's a great pitcher. But put him in the 330 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:18.519 outfield, and is he a great outfielder? No, you know he's not. 331 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:22.319 In fact, I wouldn't. I don't want to see him in the 332 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:26.279 outfield if he's as long as he's a Dodger, I don't want him running 333 00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:30.119 around out there. But you know, look, Ken Griffy Jr. Is 334 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.680 the closest that I think I can come to that. And if he hadn't 335 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:37.960 had all the injuries and stuff, maybe he's mentioned more in that, you 336 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:41.119 know, in that vein, But you know, again, Griffy had all 337 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:42.079 you know, had all the injuries, He missed a lot of time, 338 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.200 he didn't quite get there. Yeah, you know, the thing that made 339 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:53.359 Willie bigger than life to me, and I think to my generation was in 340 00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:57.279 the fifties and sixties, there was one Major League Baseball game on TV a 341 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:02.039 week. It was on Saturday afternoon, and ninety four percent of the time 342 00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:04.559 it was the Yankees. It was never the National League. Right, So 343 00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:07.519 the only time you got to see him was the All Star Game, right, 344 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.839 And I remember all Star games were, like I'm thinking of the time, 345 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:17.359 the three biggest scording events on American TV where the World Series, the 346 00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:19.680 Rose Bowl, in the All Star Game. And it was because people finally 347 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:23.640 got to see Willie Mays and Hank Aaron, Roberto Clemette. I never got 348 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.960 to see him. Yeah, No, you're you're You're one hundred percent correct 349 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.960 that, you know. I mean, I remember I was saying yesterday when 350 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:33.119 we were talking about this, you know, the TV guide would come in 351 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:37.680 the mail and I'd grab that thing and the first thing I do is open 352 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.359 it up to see who was in the Saturday afternoon game. Uh, you 353 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:44.039 know, and you know, you're right, it was always those damn Yankees. 354 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:48.400 We never got the Dodgers, that was. But but when you saw 355 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:52.119 him, you going, you went wow, you know, you know, 356 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.440 you just went, holy hell, how do you know who? Who is 357 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:00.519 he? And how did? How was he able to do all those things? 358 00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:06.440 And he did it for so long. I've got a good story about 359 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:11.000 him, and I think everybody in my generation does. I think I was 360 00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:15.079 tener eleven and the Giants were playing the Indians in the last spring training game 361 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.759 of the year in of all places, Salt Lake City at the Triple A 362 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.720 Facility, and my dad was My dad was a huge ynkie pan like I 363 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:26.200 am, but he got tickets from my uncle to go down the game in 364 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.759 their front row behind the Giants dugout, and so me and my dad drove 365 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:36.960 down alone about eighty miles and halfway there, I got car sick, threw 366 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.759 up all over the car and ruined my clothes, and I've felt I've never 367 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:44.640 felt worse in my life. I knew we had to go home because we 368 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:48.440 didn't have enough money to stop and get me new clothes. My dad went 369 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:51.480 to a J. C. Penny in Ougden, Utah, bought me new 370 00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:55.720 clothes just so we could get to the game and see Willie Mays. No, 371 00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:57.599 I mean it was I remember the game. It was well, it 372 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:02.160 was sixty years ago. A man see. That's the thing. That's what 373 00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:03.440 bothers me that, Like I said, I know, I went to a 374 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:08.000 Giants spring training game, but I can't you know during that time. I 375 00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:12.039 did find out yesterday. I told this on the show yesterday. I found 376 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:17.559 out yesterday that because you know, back then, you know, they when 377 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:19.599 they came from spring training, they didn't stay in the fancy hotels and stuff 378 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:26.039 they got. They stayed in people's houses. My my, my uncle was 379 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.319 was good friends with somebody in the in the in the Cleveland front office, 380 00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:33.839 Vic Davalo and a couple of other players. When they came from spring training, 381 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:36.559 they would live with them the whole time that they were here, to 382 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:38.720 sleep on the couch, see wherever. While I found I found out that 383 00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:45.000 uh on a time that the Giants were coming down here, that they spent 384 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.359 the night at my my another aunt and uncle's house who were out of town. 385 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.839 It got arranged by my my uncle, who you know, was friends 386 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:56.000 with the Indians Willie McCovey, Willie Mays and Orlando said, paid I spent 387 00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.640 the night at my at my aunt uncle's house. Like you know, if 388 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.279 I hadn't, if I had the pillowcase from Willy Mays. I could make 389 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:07.720 a lot of money off of that. Man. I've talked to people in 390 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:11.240 two son over the years who told me just what you were talking about and 391 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.359 and who participated in and they're just I could sit and listen to them all 392 00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:19.119 day. Yeah, yeah, no, and and that you know, that's 393 00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:23.000 it was. So it was so kind of homie, right, you know 394 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:26.480 you could go up and talk to I mean, I do remember going to 395 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.279 barbecues at at my my aunt uncle's house and talking to Vic Davolio. I 396 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.079 do remember that because he you know, he was a short shortstop for the 397 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:37.359 Indians and he was their friend and he would be sitting there They're drinking beers, 398 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:40.960 having a great time. You know, he's he was kind of one 399 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.559 of the uncles, right, And uh, I do have a a And 400 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:48.279 now I was like six years old, five years old, but I do 401 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.519 remember. I have this vision of being in the backyard and there's there's the 402 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:56.000 baseball players, and I know that they had parties who were more in you 403 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:59.160 know, not just those the three guys that were staying with them, but 404 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.079 other and you know, the whole team would be over there having a barbecue 405 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.960 with my aunt and uncle crazy stuff. There might be somebody listening right now 406 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.400 who actually hosted Willie Mays at some point, right right, Yeah, for 407 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.559 sure, because you know those guys would come to town. I never went 408 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:17.640 to one up in Casta Grant, but I knew that they were. That's 409 00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:18.960 where they were training. You know, you go down, you go down 410 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:22.359 the freeway. The hotel is still there, and the ballpark was there. 411 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.720 But and the funny thing about that is Greg is this. You know, 412 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:32.640 I'm as a huge Soger fan, Willie Mays was probably the only San Francisco 413 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.079 Giant who I could stomach. I hated the rest of them, you know, 414 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:41.640 particularly particularly One Marshall for clubbing John Roseboro with a baseball bat in that 415 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.000 one game. You know, Willie McCovey always seemed to do something bad to 416 00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.680 the Dodgers. Uh, you know, you know, Bobby Bonds was so 417 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.920 damn good, you know, the first thirty thirty guy, all those guys, 418 00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.000 I know all those things about him. But Willie Mays was the only 419 00:29:56.039 --> 00:30:00.519 one who I could not bring myself to dislike, even when he did stuff 420 00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:04.039 against the Dodgers. Okay, here's a question, how many times did you 421 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.440 try how or how often or did you do it regularly? Did you try 422 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:12.599 the basket catch? Basket catch? I was thinking of that. I've got 423 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.839 to try it as much as you did, and I just never never came 424 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.000 naturally. So he couldn't do it. He couldn't. Right, you get 425 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.160 hitting the foot, you get hit in the chest, you know, trying 426 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.160 not to get hit in the face. I'm like, how do you do 427 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.319 this? And and you know, it's like you. And then I remember 428 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.359 being, you know, having a being in a little league baseball practice and 429 00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:34.799 one of the players tried to do it, and the coach was like, 430 00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:40.359 what the hell are you doing? Catch the ball? But he doesn't. 431 00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:41.720 Now do you ever see anybody do it? No? No, not on 432 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.359 purpose, that's for sure. No, not on purpose. Not on purpose. 433 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:51.200 I mean, his hand eye coordination had to be in the highest percentile 434 00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:55.319 of all human beings, no doubt, no doubt, because you know, 435 00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:00.319 I mean, and nobody else did that, right, Nobody else did that. 436 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.480 Nobody, now, one single player you know, could do that. 437 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.480 Yeah, he just did it all the time. And I don't know why 438 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.240 he did it right. Maybe just because he could, I don't know, 439 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.920 because it certainly not a good probably, I mean and maybe it certainly not 440 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:18.960 a good play. And of course he wouldn't do it if you know, 441 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.400 if he knew he had to, you know, make a throw when he 442 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:23.920 caught the ball. But I was like, what are you doing? Why? 443 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.440 And why is that? But it was it was his trademark, it 444 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:32.599 was his trade. We went twenty two gold gloves or was it sixteen twenty 445 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.039 one gold gloves? Twenty four All Star Games and twenty one gold gloves. 446 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.920 And yeah, in nineteen seventy nine, when he's elected to the Hall of 447 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:47.079 Fame, he only got four hundred and nine, four hundred and thirty two 448 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:52.759 votes. Do you believe that? What are you doing? I mean the 449 00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.079 guys who three people didn't vote? Yeah, those twenty three guys should have 450 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.920 had their votes taken away from them right there, right on the spot, 451 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:01.680 like you can't, you're not allowed to vote anymore. Get out of here, 452 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:07.559 give it back. I know it. And that was seventy nine, 453 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:12.359 when people, you know, when the racism had subsided, right right, 454 00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.640 Yeah, that's that's atrocious. Yeah, who who is is Mickey Mandle? 455 00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.960 That guy? For you though? When it comes to your team, to 456 00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.000 the Yankees, or do you think of other guys as well. No, 457 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:27.319 I'll always makes you, always makes you. Yeah, when you grow up 458 00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.079 in that I grew up at the same time, you know when he so 459 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.599 it was like you with the Dodgers. Yeah, I mean you've got Sandy 460 00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.200 ko right right, he's the greatest living ball player right now. Yeah, 461 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.400 last one left? Yeah, yeah, no, and that you know, 462 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:44.519 it's funny because when when when when Willie Mays passed, that's he was. 463 00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:46.160 Sandy Kopax was the first one I thought. I thought, you know, 464 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.400 if you're a Giant fan and Willie Mays passes, now you know, I'm 465 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:52.480 thinking, Okay, when I'm a Dodger fan, as a Dodger fan, 466 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.839 when Sandy Kofax goes, I'm gonna be that's gonna be the one that I'm 467 00:32:54.839 --> 00:33:00.359 gonna go. Okay, it's like that generation is over. But I bet 468 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:05.960 he can still throw one past me for sure. Man. You know that 469 00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.799 Baseball Reference dot com site where you can find every stat of all time. 470 00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:12.480 Yeah, I would like. When I hang up, I'm gonna look up 471 00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.559 and see what Mays did against Colfax in his career. Oh, I can 472 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:21.160 only imagine. We were talking, we were talking about did you do you 473 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.440 remember that series that they did on HBO. It was like twenty years ago. 474 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:28.200 We were looking up I things called when it was a game and they 475 00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:31.599 divided the they divided baseball into two eras you know, the era up to 476 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.559 nineteen sixty or sixty one, I think sixty one, and then from from 477 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:40.240 there to I guess you would call it the AstroTurf age when the Reds and 478 00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:45.640 the and those guys. There was a story Willie Mays told a story about 479 00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:50.960 digging in the box against Don Drysdale, and he wasn't you know. He 480 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.279 walked up to the batter's box, he dug in, put his foot in 481 00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:55.880 there, you know, stepped in the box, looked up and it was 482 00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:01.079 Drysdale. And he immediately called time out because he knew he had pissed off 483 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:07.599 Drysdale. And so he stepped out of the box. He he cleaned up 484 00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.719 where he dug in the box to kind of like tell I didn't mean to 485 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.519 do that. And then he gets back in the box and Drivesdale drills him. 486 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:22.000 Anyways, but similar Bob Gibson, Yeah, it had to be, 487 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:25.400 you know, and you think about the end. They both understood it, 488 00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:29.360 right, you know, William, he didn't charge the mound, right, 489 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:30.800 he knew he was getting thrown at, but he didn't charge them mount. 490 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:36.519 But the funny thing was that a guy like Willie Mays got into the box 491 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:40.880 and felt he had to uh uh, he had to respect the picture at 492 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.639 least this much. And and he he looked up. I saw Drivesdale looking 493 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:46.639 at me, and I'm like, I got the hell out of the box 494 00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:51.039 and I cleaned it up and got back in and he's still he's still hit 495 00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.400 me in the back. So I got I gotta try try and find that 496 00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:59.159 clip. It was funny as hell. So anyway, younger generation wouldn't understand 497 00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:00.880 me exactly. Well, it was. It was a romantic time for us. 498 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:02.360 I know, you know, as you say, you know, you're 499 00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:06.719 growing up a Yankee fan, me growing up a Dodger fan and seeing these 500 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.280 guys and man, they're they're leaving us. They're all leaving us one by 501 00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:14.679 one. Yeah, like last year was Bob Gibson and Frank Robinson. Yeah, 502 00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.559 yep, so many of them died. Yeah. So anyways, all 503 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:21.039 right, Greg, well this was fun. I appreciate it. Thanks for 504 00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.440 jumping on with us, and uh you know, we'll we'll be in touch 505 00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:27.840 and keep that cough game going and uh and uh we'll get you back here 506 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.320 when football season get started. Thanks Jane, say hi to Steve. I 507 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.639 will do that. I'll pass that along. Thanks. About to see you 508 00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:38.119 later. Chelena is Greg Hansen from there is on Daily Star just uh, 509 00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:44.440 you know, a couple of guys commiserating about I don't know, romantics the 510 00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:46.679 right word, but just a time for baseball for those of us who are 511 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:49.920 this age. When it was, it was so different from what it is 512 00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.840 now, and maybe because we didn't get as much of it, it wasn't 513 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:58.360 as readily available to us. It becomes a little more you know, I 514 00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.320 don't know something. I don't know what the right word as far so okay, 515 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.719 stick around, we're going to come back. We'll wrap up the show. 516 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:06.320 Give us a call five to two zero four one, six, seventy 517 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:10.159 four forty Your memories of Willie Mays or any of this time. I know 518 00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:15.079 there's a lot of people still here who can remember spring training with the Cleveland 519 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:17.599 Indians in Tucson, going to some of those games. It was a great 520 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:21.760 time. It was a different time, and we all have memories of it, 521 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:23.400 So stick around for that and give us a called five two zero, 522 00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:25.400 four, one, six, seventy four, forty We'll be right back. 523 00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:30.039 If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly 524 00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:32.599 forty years. Now take a look back at the Loudolsen era In my new 525 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:36.239 book, Lessons from Loot. 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I'm jacan Zalez, 567 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:47.039 your host with Steve Rivera is still out and will be tomorrow as well. 568 00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:52.360 Hopefully he'll be joining us back on Monday. We'll see how things go 569 00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:54.719 with that. But I've got Ryan here and we're kicking some stuff around, 570 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.519 and wow, we've got some more breaking news because there was a there was 571 00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:04.000 the the Youuve Athletic Department. I did a presentation to the Arizona Border Regions 572 00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:09.199 today and it was just to talk about how they're going to you know, 573 00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:14.199 how good athletics is going to be, you know, managing itself so that 574 00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.119 it doesn't, you know, continue to run into the deficits that it's having. 575 00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:22.199 I guess the Border Regions asked for a plan. So they just put 576 00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:28.880 out an email literally twenty minutes ago, thirty minutes ago, talking about an 577 00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.199 Arizona Athletics five point plan. I'm looking at this for the first time. 578 00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:36.079 I'm gonna run and buy you because that's what we do. This is hot 579 00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.960 off the press, but they presented a five point plan to the athletic Department. 580 00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:46.519 I'm to the border regents in the in the release said that not only 581 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:50.440 went to fans, but to the media. It says the report looks back 582 00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.079 five years and provides a thorough analysis of athletics revenues, expenses and operations, 583 00:40:54.440 --> 00:41:00.960 all benchmarks against all bench marked against peer institutions in the Big twelve conference. 584 00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:05.079 It also details the uncertainty associated with the nawnceer state of YadA, YadA, 585 00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:10.920 YadA. Anyways, it goes on to say, strengthening, just excellent, 586 00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.239 Strengthening organization has been one of our top priorities since returning to the university in 587 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:20.159 March. To operationalize the report, we created this five point plan as a 588 00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:25.000 framework to guide the process. So here's the plan. Five items. Streamlined 589 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:29.639 organizational structure, which you know they've they've they've been doing that. They're kind 590 00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.199 of, you know, rebuilding it. You know, we were just talking 591 00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:38.679 about this. There's some multimedia rights organization that they're going to develop. They 592 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:45.519 said, we will reduce administrative leadership personnel costs by five hundred thousand dollars, 593 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:52.679 So they're they're clipping some administrative personnel implementation of new processes and culture. It 594 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:58.880 says, we must approach our fiduciary responsibilities with the utmost seriousness and managed department 595 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.719 finances as if they we're our own. We're committed to instilling the culture of 596 00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:07.920 accountability and responsibility, streamlining our processes, and driving operational excellence at every level 597 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:13.760 of our organization. So, you know, trying to just do things differently 598 00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:16.800 right again. You know, it makes sense. It's like a no brainer. 599 00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:24.199 Priority budgeting implementation fall of twenty twenty four. It says the OSTHECT Department 600 00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:30.320 will undergo a substantial transformation with the implementation of permissive revenue sharing with student athletes 601 00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:37.119 in twenty five and the ability of schools to increase their scholarship offerings through priority 602 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.760 budgeting. We will align our investments with our strategic priorities, including preparing to 603 00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:46.360 share revenue with our student athletes in twenty twenty five. Item four is part 604 00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:51.800 of the five point plan. Revenue generation, fundraising, and development strategies are 605 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:57.960 undergoing a modernization effort to best align with our long term objectives. This is 606 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.679 where they talk about the multimedia rights and naming rights. It says, recognize 607 00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:06.440 the potential of our multimedia and naming rights assets, and then an effort to 608 00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:12.960 streamline and align these efforts. We have established Arizona Sports Enterprises by consolidating and 609 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:20.199 optimizing these opportunities who will enhance our brand visibility and drive revenue growth. Philanthropy 610 00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:25.000 is a part of this, they say, Cultivate deeper relationships with donors, 611 00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:29.800 partners, YadA, YadA. And then talking about the fan experience and growing 612 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:35.400 attendance and increasing ticket revenue with the transition into the Big twelve, Providing fans 613 00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:39.039 with an exemplary game day experience and continuing to aggressively grow and monetize ticket revenue 614 00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:45.880 is essential. And then the fifth point of five is adaptation, preparation and 615 00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:52.440 continued learning. Basically saying, with the way things are changing so often and 616 00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:54.239 as much as they're changing, they got to be able to roll with the 617 00:43:54.280 --> 00:44:00.559 punches is essentially what they're saying. It says the potential new ability to share 618 00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.000 revenue with our student athletes as an opportunity at the university would take part and 619 00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:07.039 as such, preparation do so will be a critical driver of our planning process 620 00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:13.199 in the months ahead. Encouraging the culture of continuous learning, intentionality and innovation 621 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:15.159 will enable aerasone athletes to stay out of the curve. YadA, YadA. 622 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.280 So basically they're just saying, we're going to be doing stuff differently, and 623 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.440 we know that, you have what what they were doing obviously didn't work. 624 00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:29.639 I know, COVID was a big it was, you know, really killed 625 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:31.599 them, killed everybody. You know. You know, they had a forty 626 00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:37.920 five million dollar deficit that year, just that year, so most of the 627 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:42.039 deficit that they have now came from that. So we know they got to 628 00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.199 do things different, and more so because it's you got to do things different 629 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:47.320 now. If you keep trying to do things the way you're doing them, 630 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.119 there's no way because it's changed so much. You're gonna be you're paying athletes 631 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:55.639 starting in twenty twenty five, you're paying athletes, you know. And then 632 00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:59.800 there's still the whole are their employees? Are they not employees? All those 633 00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:06.480 things, and with so much still unsettled in terms of how things are going 634 00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:10.079 to run in in in major college athletics, you have to be able. 635 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:15.679 You have to be able to adjust sometimes on the fly. You can't be 636 00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:20.400 a you can't be a you know, a giant ship that takes forever to 637 00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:22.039 make a left turn or a right turn. You got to be able to 638 00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:28.239 make that turn right away and quickly and and do it, you know, 639 00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.440 with an understanding of what every move you make, how it affects everything. 640 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:35.440 I mean, it's it's it's it's crazy. Yeah, I mean you said, 641 00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:42.159 you know, we go with that. I just kind of I was 642 00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:45.679 reading something so well, it's it's complicated, right. I mean, I 643 00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:52.000 would never want to be an athletic director right now because the finances that are 644 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.880 at stake. You know, the size of these programs, right I think 645 00:45:54.920 --> 00:46:00.719 everyone's got five hundred and five hundred plus, you know, athletes in their 646 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.679 program. You know, you're talking about a lot of money, a lot 647 00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.239 of scholarships, a lot of people. You know, a lot of people 648 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.599 who come to the university to play in these sports and it's a big part 649 00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:14.639 of their lives. You know, they've been working on and some of them 650 00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:17.000 have been working all their life to get a college scholarship to play whether it's 651 00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:22.360 tennis or golf or football or basketball, you know, you know, track 652 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:28.400 or whatever. They've been doing it. It's important to them and you can't 653 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.199 mess it up for them. Yeah, And going to the big toll. 654 00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.800 They're going to be on more of a national stage, right, they do 655 00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:39.000 need to make those changes to be able to put a good product right out 656 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:44.199 there. Yeah, so it's that's where I was going with. Yeah, 657 00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:47.159 well and you do. But you know again, and look, this this 658 00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:52.119 five point plan is not rocket science, right, you know. I mean 659 00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:58.000 it's really not in terms of each five things. What's more like rocket science 660 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:01.440 is the implementation of all all of that. What do all these things mean? 661 00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.519 I think the border regions wanted to see that Arizona is thinking about all 662 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:12.199 these things, that they're addressing everything, and I, as a fan, 663 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.880 hope they are too, because what I want more than anything is for the 664 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:21.159 sports to survive, for Arizona to be competitive and whatever sport they're in, 665 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:24.440 because you know, if we're going to support them and give them our our 666 00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:30.800 ticket money and donations and just our time, you want it. You want 667 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:36.639 it to be well run. You want it to be efficient, right, 668 00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:39.440 you want you want you want to know that if you're paying I think, 669 00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:44.599 uh, you know, season take a season football ticket where I sit was 670 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:49.159 four hundred and thirty five dollars. If I'm giving them that money, I 671 00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.239 want to know that you're going to put a good product on the field, 672 00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.960 right, But I also want to know that basketball is going to be good. 673 00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:58.920 You know, golf is going to be good. It's going to be 674 00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:02.360 a good experience for every Are you going to bring coaches into the community or 675 00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.199 you know, an asset to the community. There's a lot of responsibility there 676 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:12.800 for these athletic programs, particularly one like Arizona where there's nothing else, right, 677 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:16.199 we don't have a major league sport here, and we don't have the 678 00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:22.280 Suns or the Diamondbacks or the Caya Well Phoenixes now the codes anymore either or 679 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:27.719 the Cardinals, right Arizona is it? So what you want is if this 680 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:31.239 is what, if this is what's going to represent our city, then they 681 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.880 got to do a good job with it because there's more at stake than just 682 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:40.519 wins and losses. That's my soapbox. Yeah, I mean there's so many 683 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:45.639 there's so many sports going on nowadays, right, you need to be able 684 00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:46.559 to, like you said, you got to put a good product out there 685 00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:52.039 to to know that you're not going to waste your time, right, right, 686 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.400 I mean, if I'm going to take the time to go tailgate, 687 00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.360 you know, and I'm gonna be out there for four hours in the heat. 688 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:04.519 I've paid, you know, we paid four hundred and twenty five bucks 689 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.800 for a tailgate pass, you know, to use for six or seven games, 690 00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.719 depending on what the season is. And we're gonna pay that kind of 691 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:15.480 money to go do that and put out that kind of effort. You want 692 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:19.320 to know when you go to the football game that you're gonna have a good 693 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.320 time. Yeah, And that's that was one of the things that bothered me 694 00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.719 more than anything during the Sumberland years, during the mac Ofvic years, when 695 00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:31.159 those two guys were here and didn't give one crap about Arizona football. I 696 00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:35.880 thought, I felt like I cared more about it than they did. And 697 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:39.239 yet they were the guys making the millions of dollars I was paying to, 698 00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:44.719 you know, to be a part of this. They were getting my money 699 00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.000 and they didn't give one crap about it. And that's bothered me more than 700 00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:51.320 walking to a football game, you know, particularly with the Macavic years, 701 00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:55.639 just knowing we're going in there and Alice Hugh's coming to town, Purdue came 702 00:49:55.719 --> 00:50:00.840 to town to just beat the hell out of us. You thought, what 703 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.199 am I doing? You know, and why am I doing this? And 704 00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:07.400 why am I willing to do this? So I don't know. I really 705 00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.199 hope that I get it. They had to put something out like this that 706 00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:15.000 says all these things. Now it's like, okay, you say you're going 707 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:16.519 to do these things, Now go do them. Now, go do them 708 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:20.360 and let's see what. Uh, let's let's see what you guys got. 709 00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:27.159 So I don't know. You know, it's uh, this is going to 710 00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.159 be a long thing too, because you know, sports and college sports are 711 00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:36.039 going to keep changing a lot all the time. Uh. This the already 712 00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:39.079 this settlement on the House lawsuit that the one that says, okay, you 713 00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:43.360 got to pay, you got to share revenue with the players. A school 714 00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.760 has come on and said, oh, we don't like this, a lower 715 00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:50.000 level Division one school and said we don't like this, and they're objecting to 716 00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.719 it, saying that they didn't get represented in the in the settlement talks. 717 00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:58.840 So already got somebody who should benefit from this, but they feel like they're 718 00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:05.920 not, and they're fighting. They're gonna and so the the the what it's 719 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:10.039 going to take to get all this stuff in place so that college athletics, 720 00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:14.639 as we know it doesn't die. It's gonna be hard to do, and 721 00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:19.559 each school has to do its part, you know, is every school going 722 00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.800 through something like this and putting together this kind of a plan to deal with 723 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:25.119 all the issues that are coming down the road on them. I don't know. 724 00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:30.639 If you're not, you should be right. I mean, if you're 725 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.320 not, if you're not trying to figure out how you're going to do things 726 00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:37.920 going forward, you're gonna be in big trouble because this this thing is this 727 00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:42.559 thing is changing every day, sometimes by the minute, and it'll be interesting 728 00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:45.599 to see how we how we do with that. So I'm sure there's gonna 729 00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:47.800 be a whole lot more coming out about this. I know Bruce Pascal was 730 00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:52.400 up covering the Arizona Border Regions meeting, or maybe he was watching from here 731 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.519 because I think they they stream them. Uh we've tried to get them on 732 00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:59.440 the show today and he couldn't because of that, but we'll try and get 733 00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:04.440 him next week. I think the media is going to have to, you 734 00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:08.159 know, absorb this, analyze it, try to figure out what it means. 735 00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:12.159 And uh, we'll let them do that and then we'll let them come 736 00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.800 on and talk about it with us because I this is our way out of 737 00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:19.119 my pay grade for sure. But on the other hand, as a fan, 738 00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.800 I want to know, right, I want to know what all this 739 00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:25.400 means and what this is going to mean to my ticket dollar, to my 740 00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:30.239 donation dollar, and to my time that I put that I devote to, 741 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:35.440 you know, whatever program i'm you know, I'm involved with, whether it's 742 00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:38.119 football or basketball, or go into a baseball game or a softball game or 743 00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.239 whatever, you know, whatever we go to watch or you know, having 744 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.880 those coaches come in and be on the show. We just want to know 745 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:46.760 what is this all that's going to mean. So there you go, long, 746 00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.760 Rent, but that just came across and I thought it was important to 747 00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.719 UH to talk about it. There's you know, it's big stuff. I 748 00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:57.599 think it's it's all big stuff. And I think this is what they were 749 00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:02.440 looking for when they hired as a desiree read Francois. You know, it 750 00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:07.599 looks like they're putting together a very specific plan on how to deal with all 751 00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:10.679 the issues they've got to deal with in athletics, and guys were a long, 752 00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:15.920 a long way from any of this being settled. But at least I 753 00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:19.639 to me, this gives me a feeling that they're working on something. Yeah, 754 00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:22.840 it's gonna it's gonna be an interesting whatever it is. It is, 755 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:24.679 it really is, it really is. All right, Well, we're at 756 00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:27.199 the end. We've got to get out of here. We're gonna come. 757 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.719 We'll be back tomorrow. We'd love to give have you give us a call, 758 00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.400 follow the podcast and join us back here tomorrow, and uh, have 759 00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:34.360 a great night everybody.