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This is the baseline discussing the hot
button topics of the NBA. Welcome everybody,

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your tune to the baseline Calie Warrent, y'all discussing the hot button topics

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of the NBA. And we're continuing
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We're almost around that time frame.
We we're gonna get ready to start talking

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about conference previews and you know preview
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awards, preview and all kinds of
crazy talking conversation. Man. So it's

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really an exciting time and stuff.
I mean, look, look, man,

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if you're if you're catching this on
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just like shook, like he can't
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it wasn't just too long ago and we

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were watching our man. You know
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get his selly on. You know
what I'm saying, We're winning that chip,

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Hey man, I love how you
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They all seem super excited that we're
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Man, yeah, brother, you
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We are just a week away as
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right now, it's all about the
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to happen? What's going to happen? Right? So episode this week of

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let's get right into it. This
is the under pressure episode of the

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Baseline, right like, we are
doing this media day press a style,

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throwing some questions out there and listen. These are kind of questions that I

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would hope that even you the listener
would think about posing to some of these

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players. And you know, these
exactives and coaches or whoever is made available

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during media day for your favorite or
if you're like someone who likes to troll

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your most hated team, the questions
that you would like to be throwing out

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there to those dudes as well too, right Like, so this is the

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media day press the episode of the
baseline, and the first question that I

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think if we were out in Portland
Shaw right, Like, Let's say we

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hopped into Hoopdi because you know,
we were feeling like it's time for us

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to do road trip, right,
we don't want to be messing with the

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frequent flying miles just yet. We
hopped into Hoopdi, drove all the way

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up to the northwest of the United
States out there in Portland, Land,

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and we decided to sit down in
front of the Portland Trailblazer media. And

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I guess the question that really should
be asked is will Damian Lillard be anywhere

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but where we are right now?
In other words, we get there and

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his presence isn't there? Are we
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Carmen Sandy Lillard right, we're Portland? That was a good strip. I

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tried to stress that one nicely.
Or is he gonna stay put? Man?

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Are they gonna be steadfast and hold
Damian Lillard down for as long as

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necessary? Well, let's go ahead
and date ourselves a minute. We're gonna

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say, I'm gonna give this answer. Things are going to move and change,

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But you know, I think,
yeah, the question is, you

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know, will Dame be in Portland
for the for the beginning of media day

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and then obviously throughout the course of
the NBA season. You know, I

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think the Blazers have made it clear
that they are not enamored with what the

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mind he'd have to offer, and
you know, my guess is, you

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know Dame will have to show up
and play things out in Portland. We

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touched on this over the course of
the summer and as many people did.

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But what I continue to maintain more
than anything else is Lillard is not going

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to let his reputation take any more
of a hit per se. He's not

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going to be the guys like,
well, I asked for a trade,

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they didn't trade me, and I'm
gonna just kind of hot dog it out

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here, show up out of shape
or give my all. Like He's just

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he's not really wired in that way
and some of the way some of the

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players are. And I think,
you know, he'll kind of grin and

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bear it, you know, and
maybe something will ultimately bear fruit down the

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line for the Portland Blazers. Portland
trail Blazers. But I think we will

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see Dame in Portland's come media day
next week and you know, just maybe

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with a little bit of a tute
about it. But I think if he

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makes it to the preseason and ultimately
games, I think he's going to be,

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you know, the good soldier that
we know him to be. What

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are your thoughts, Well, I
think that the timing is so richly important

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for us to understand that if the
Portland Trailblazers were unable to figure out a

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way to move him at this point, then they're going to be, you

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know, pretty steadfast in holding him
where he is, and even if it's

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at the expense of Damian a little
not suiting up to play. I think

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that you know, were Portland fans, they have already resigned themselves to the

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idea that Damian Lill no longer wants
to be there. And I would if

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it were me, I would probably
not I wouldn't care, right. That's

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not to say I would not want
him out there on the basketball court.

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But let's be realistic. This is
when entertainment and the business of basketball tend

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to kind of muddle things up a
little bit. If you're an entertainer,

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you want to be entertained and listen, there's no one better out there,

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you know, in the Western Conference, entertaining folks and giving us Dame time

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better than Damian Lillard. But if
you're an avid, hardened Portland Trailblazer fan

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and you just want to get on
with the business of the Portland Trailblazers moving

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forward, you don't need to see
him out there on the basketball court because

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I fail to see where he's going
to benefit. He's going to be a

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benefit to Scoot Henderson, a benefit
to Anthony Simon's, a benefit to use

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of Nurkics. Right. To me, I just gets a distraction. And

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so ultimately I think that if the
parties handle it properly, Damien doesn't get

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all up in his fields about because
this is that he drew the line anyway.

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He doesn't want to play for the
Portland Trailblazers any longer. He wants

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to be moved. He should respect
the fact that this process is going to

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leak itself into arguably the beginning of
the NBA season, probably almost up to

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the NBA trade deadline, right and
that would mean sit it out and wait

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and see what a team wants to
do right. I will say, though,

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that the Portland Trailblazers will probably try
to play hardball with Damien and say,

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listen, man, you either because
obviously the NBA is telling Damien,

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Yo, you can't do this right
like you can't be talking and throwing out

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innuendos to other teams, dictating and
demanding who you do who the Portland Trailblazers

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should should not be speaking to.
But Portland is like, Yo, you

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better be accepted, be receptive to
if the Philadelphia seventy six ers want to

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offer us something, if the the
you know, I'll go crazy if the

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Boston Celtics were to offer something right, like, you better be receptive to

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other teams if it's a matter of
putting him on the move and him just

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resisting to the idea of it.
So I think he stays put because I

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just don't see where they can make
anything happen rushed. Portland has obviously tried

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a few times already to make something
work with the Miami Heat, but clearly

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the intent here is that the Heat
want to keep Bam and want to keep

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Butler and somewhere in there to Portland, Trailblazers don't see any assets outside of

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giving up one of those dudes if
they're planning to give up Damian Lillard.

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So the numbers are certainly working in
Portland's favor to hold in steadfast. It's

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just a question of the respect factor
that they're actually giving Damian Lillard on how

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he wants to approach this so he
doesn't make himself look like, you know,

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the bad guy nor the martyr.
And I think Portland fans as well

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too, should be ready to move
on from this and not worry about whether

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or not he's going to suit up
and be on that basketball court come tip

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off. All right, Well,
I'm gonna just hobble really quickly because I

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want to spend too much time.
That's got a lot of questions. But

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your thoughts on it being anywhere else
but Miami, per se, So Toronto

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is throwing their name into this hat. Now, Chicago, you mentioned Philadelphia

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as a potential suitor. Do you
think any one of those teams outside on

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Miami end up with Damian Lillard if
he were to leave Porland. Absolutely,

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I think any of those other teams
have just as good as chance, because

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I think if you think if you
think, like Damian Lillard will probably think,

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this is probably not even more about
money like it was for Kyrie Irving

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as much as it is him realizing
that he'll probably have to do a stop

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gap, like you know, a
stop gap another team before finally going to

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where he wants to go. And
it'll be interesting to see if a team

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or any teams are willing to pony
up the money for a temporary murk for

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a possible run or deep run if
they're in content tension or in position to

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do so. So that's my take
on it. I don't see where Damian

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Lillard unless it's at the trade deadline
and the Blazers and the Miami Heat do

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figure something out. I don't think
that's gonna wind up being his destination.

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I think it's gonna be one of
the other suitors out there that are really

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gonna throw a much better package for
Portland to consider. And I think Damien

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has to take that in consideration that
he's not immediately going to go to Miami,

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but eventually we'll get there. The
talk, the talk, the talk.

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We'll see your brother can't wait,
all right? Next up, Shaw

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and I hop into HOOPTI and we
make our way all the way back to

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the east coast. Probably do need
to get into plane and start to start

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taking advantage of these frequent flyer miles. We're go on east coast, west

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coast, bouncing back and forth.
But anyway, we take our we take

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our sights down to Philly Shaw and
the situation out there for Philly is a

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little tenuous at best. How uncomfortable
is James Harden ready to get and will

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he appear at media day? Certainly
he won't be appearing arm arm around,

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uh, you know, shoulder with
Daryl Morey. But do you think he'll

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appear a media day? Yeah,
So I think he's actually going to show

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up because in some ways there's the
need to play good soldier for the aspect

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of he's playing for a contract.
So I think if he goes to the

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old hard and Shenanigans, if you
will, despite however he feels about Morey

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at this particular juncture, it just
plays into a more negative narrative for him,

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you know, in terms of him
potentially getting his next deal. So

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it's in his best interest, like
it is, like it ligally is in

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his best interest to appear and to
be his best self, no matter how

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disgruntled he actually is. So that's
my take on it. You know,

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I think Harden is probably willing to
you know, bet against me, you

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know, like, yeah, brochure, hold my beer. But if I'm

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his agents, I feel like you
have to advise him in a way as

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like, listen, you said what
you said, you did what you did,

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but understanding that you've finessed your way
out of two situations over the last

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you know, eighteen months or whatever
it was, from Houston and Brooklyn and

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now into Philadelphia. Now this would
be the third team that you're trying to

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move away from, and you're playing
alongside the reigning MVP. It's just it's

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just not good optics. So he
doesn't have the same value that he once

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had. And he's still a very
good player and even an All Star level

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player. But I think he's got
to show up to Philadelphia, be at

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media day. Similarly, probably won't
be as disgruntled, well maybe more discruntled

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than Dame will even be in terms
of like how we answer this questions very

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very short. But I think he's
going to be there, and I think

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he's going to go through the motions. Yeah, I think he's gonna be

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there. But when have we ever
believed that James Harden never gave a damn

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about comfort James Harden. James Harden
only needs to worry about James Harden,

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Right, That's how he's operated,
That's been his moo. And you know,

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it's interesting that as a basketball player
this fits him perfectly, right because

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in a day of self marketing,
nobody markets himself as the odd oddball,

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so to speak, or you know
what I'm saying, the precariously gifted.

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You know, it's almost like it's
almost like Harden has Kanye tendencies. There's

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a genius to his game. Right, However, it only seems to translate

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his greatness and doesn't seem to translate
in a resume that reflects someone who could

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be considered one of the greats of
the game. He's definitely one of the

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greatest offensive players, especially from the
South Paw, to ever play this game.

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But because he is always looking out
for himself and look, that's a

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decision that he makes. And unfortunately, he's dealing with an organization that struggles

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so mightily with handling players that have
to take care of themselves before they take

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care of the team, And that's
the biggest problem that that really exists,

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because you can see how it's festered
and has become kind of a cancer to

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how players perceive what's been taking place, with the disappointing you know, exits

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during playoff runs, with the craziness
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trades that have that have happened.
If nothing else, I mean, James

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Harden is is kind of a truth
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of them. That's you know what
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not he's infected them in that kind
of way, but he's exposed to Ben

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Simmons of the world. He's exposed
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probably was a nice, quiet guy
until James Harden came aboard, and now

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he's just they're all listen, all
of them are catching it. Look,

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Tyree's Maxie is catching is is collateral
damage because of this, right, and

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it's true, it's in all of
it is because of James Harden. So

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you know, with that being said, come media day, everyone is going

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to be asking these questions to all
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ask James Harden. James Harden's gonna
answer how James Harden answers you know what

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I'm saying, and he is not
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gonna see him, you know,
Quiver, You're not gonna see him second

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guess his statements or nothing like that. You know what I'm saying, because

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he don't care. You know,
well, I think you know and you

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know the second part of this too, that you know I didn't add even

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to our show notes. But again
not to spend too much time on this

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topic, is what is Joel Embid
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Joel, I'm actually looking forward to
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you know, it only takes They're
gonna be a part like they're gonna be

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completely separate on the other sides of
the court. Right, we can already

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see this, and then somebody is
gonna ask James Harden a question once James

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Harden gives his sound bite, Guess
who's scurrying his little ole ass over to

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the other side to get a retort
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come from James, up from Joel
Embiid and let it and listen. We've

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seen Joel Embiid not sugar cote anything
he has to say about players that he

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doesn't really care for, you know
what I'm saying, And he may say

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it jokingly, but you know he
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there'll be any jokes about this one. And I'm again all of what's happening

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in Philadelphia's media day, new coach
and Nick Nurse coming into the fold and

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you know his previous equips against Joel
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situation. I think that's going to
be one of the more spicier ones to

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come to watch when we get to
October. Second Family, absolutely your tuned

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to the baseline. Calie Warrents Shaw
discussing the hot button topics of the NBA

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and this is our pressure media day
birding questions that we are kind of listening

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out. They were soliciting out there
for you guys to take take take notice

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on what we were expecting to hear, what we would expect to hear from

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if we were at media day,
you know, for a lot of these

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teams, and what questions we would
pose, you know, to the organizations.

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All right, Shaw so let's let's
shift our folks us now to Milwaukee.

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Right, this is probably the first
time, like you know, we

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we we've been spoiled. Right,
Jannis at Ducoumpo is probably the most well

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rounded individual as far as his ability
to articulate, to show the passion that

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he has for the game, that
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for. It's amazing to me Shaw
that when we talk about Yannis, rarely

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will we ever talk about Jannis saying
something controversial. But it's interesting because this

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past season he's he's said a couple
of things it's kind of made you like,

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is he really like in his fields
right now? Like is there something

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like not right about where what's going
on over there in Milwaukee? Is he

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you know what I'm saying, is
he feeling some kind of way? And

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obviously with the pre agency question that
was posed to him and now how his

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response was, does it feel like
Jannis is precluding a possible exit from Milwaukee?

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So he's got to be asked about, right, you know, I

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think he his comments came out in
an article that had really nothing to do

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with basketball. I think it was
about his his business and stuff like that

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too. And it just kind of
meandered into the Milwaukee Bucks conversation, and

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you know, he says what he
says, and it's like, hey,

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well, you know, I need
to be committed and they need to be

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committed to me. And I can't
promise that I'll be here forever if I

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don't feel like that commitment is you
know, is duplicated, if you will,

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and again paraphris paraphrasing to some degree, but Janni says, one of

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the preminent, pre eminent grates that
the Bucks have ever had brought that team,

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you know, a championship. It's
really interesting to kind of see how

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he's maneuvering here now and leaving that
door open for just doubt you know that

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he would be back. And we
understand, you know, financially, he's

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not going to sign his ext mentions
and all those things because he can make

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more money as a TV money continues
to rise than so larger percent of the

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cap. That all makes sense,
but the aspect of potentially leaving Milwaukee,

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and people have been wanting him to
go to other markets for a very very

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long time, I think since the
last time we had this rodeo. You

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know, when when his free agency
or sorry, his contract extension wasn't was

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in question. I think he's going
to downplay that. I think he's going

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to walk it back a little bit
to not be a distraction because I think

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he sees what it's kind of cost
here in the short term, you know.

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But if he doesn't, if he
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be a very, very wild and
controversial season. I think in Milwaukee again

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new coach and Adrian Griffin, they
re uped and Brook Lopez re uped on

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Chris Middleton. Drew Holiday is going
to be up for an extension here pretty

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soon as well too. It just
puts so much pressure on that team to

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feel like they have to win now, and they do. But I think

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it's something different when he's putting the
pressure on them, is like, Hey,

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I'm gonna leave y'all, I'm gonna
piece out on y'all if things don't

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go go a certain way as opposed
to play let's play the season now and

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let's just try to focus on winning
basketball. So here's where I think there's

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a difference between how Jannie would probably
handle this situation and how say Lebron would

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handle this situation. Lebron James,
knowing that any decision that he makes,

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any thoughts that he gives, a
perspective that he provides, all of that

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is weighed so heavily right he has
he has earned that equity right within any

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organization that he plays for. And
so his word is golden. And I

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feel like what Janice alluded to and
spoke of was something that allows him the

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ability and maybe we see it.
I don't know. I'm just saying from

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my perspective. To me, it
gives off this air that he believes he's

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in a space is very similar to
Lebron James, that he's commanded that level

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of respect from the Milwaukee Bucks organization. And so when you make those type

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of pronouncements, whether it was intentional
or accidental, right, and organizations act

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upon that, you have to own
what will be I guess the fallout should

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you not succeed. Right now,
we don't look at it in that perspective,

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And if this is as a media
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see if someone would would challenge him
in that regard because of what now he

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is in a way has initiated.
Right like, even though he's made these

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statements now Shaw Let's not act like
he has not had a very heavy influence

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on the decisions that the Milwaukee Bucks
have made the last couple of seasons and

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seen how quickly they have fallen short
from getting more than one championship. And

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you have to wonder if a person
like Janis, who is arguably one of

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the best players in basketball, if
not the best player in basketball from a

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talent perspective, if someone like Nicola
Yoki's usurps him one chip over. You

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know what I'm saying, what are
we now talking about like for a guy

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like Jannis, what is that going
to say about him and how he handles

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things? We're gonna say, awesome
guy to play, to put on our

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team and help win a championship,
But under no circumstances should his voice lend

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to how an organization should operate in
a window of where winning needs to be

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at a very high level simply because
of how he comes off or how he

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is he's dictating in the making these
type of demands. And I find that

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to be the interesting aspect of this
with with Jannis is that I'm not discrediting

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anything that he has done and accomplished
up to this point, but these type

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of statements kind of lend itself to
say, We'll hold up a second,

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what is the Milwaukee Bucks done since
twenty twenty one? Right? And so

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you're saying that now if they if
they're if the organization isn't doing enough for

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you to win, it means that
you may have to go somewhere in which

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they're they're gonna put their stand for
winning. Well, look at what the

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team had to commit to for what
they thought is what you needed to win.

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So now you're telling us differently.
See, Lebron never put himself in

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that type of situation. He may
have said I want to play with these

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guys because he trusted them, but
he's never said, oh, you know,

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the organization was never doing enough for
me when he knew that they gave

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him exactly what he wanted and it
was up to him to deliver on those

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goods. Yeah, I mean,
I think it's all about framing, right.

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So you know, if if if
Yannis is gonna go down this path

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knowing kind of the things that you
alluded to, it's cost them multiple draft

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picks. They did get a chip
out of it, right, But it's

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like you know, the old added, well, what have you done for

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me lately? Right, Well,
there's no but there's no more picks to

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give away. You know, the
cupboard is kind of bear there, and

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so it's a matter of, you
know, how can you continue to cultivate

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the team in a way and bring
them up to the level. But there

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are they are getting older as well, and so I think, you know,

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Yannis, and we'll not Yanna.
Sorry, Chris Middleton and Drew Holiday

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on the other side of thirty here, there's some real questions here about how

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they're going to move forward. Brook
Lopez, same thing on the other side

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of the thirty. They're wrong side
of thirty. So we'll see, you

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know what, what ends up happening. But I am intrigued by the fact

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that he did come out here and
make these statements, and like I said,

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I want to see he does he
double down on media day and say,

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yeah, I meant what I said, I'm gonna staying tentoes down on

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this thing, or as like,
let's just you know, let's put that

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behind us here. I just want
to focus on winning and ship. Yeah.

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The only other thing I will say
this as well too, is let's

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not let's not also, you know, overlook the fact that Milwaukee I think

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he's missed on some opportunities for them
to And again, maybe part of it

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is because of the pressure in inflicted
by Yannis, whether it be you know,

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accidental or intentional of his desire to
keep the team, to keep the

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core of the team as is.
But you could clearly see that the Milwaukee

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Bucks I think had a couple of
opportunities where they could have made some type

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of moves to be able to kind
of make this a long a longer term,

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open the window up for a longer
term for the Milwaukee Bucks, even

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if it may have been to the
immediate pleasure of Janis's desire to keep the

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team as is, if it's about
them continuing to win and continuing to compete,

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you know, you look at the
dynamic of that team and you say

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to yourself, can they can they? Can they you know, get over

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the hump knowing that Father time is
not on their side. You know for

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some of these players as well too, like Middleton and you know, maybe

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even brook Lopez. You know what
I'm saying that they have to get better

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at certain places, and I don't
know if they left themselves room to be

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able to do that. Your tuned
to the baseline. Calie Warrenshaw discussing the

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hot button topics of the NBA.
Coming up, we'll get more into some

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burning questions. Man. We got
one out for the for the new or

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least Pelicans and Zion. You know
what I'm saying. You know, listen,

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Zion is Zion is doing his thing? Chris Paul in Golden State they

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doing? Are they gonna be?
Is he gonna be doing his thing out

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there in grizzly Land? John Morant, You know what I'm saying, He's

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gonna be. He's gonna be missing
the thing. But when he comes back,

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will he be that thing? So
there's like a lot of questions that

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we want to get out there.
We got a lot of places to travel

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Burning Questions here on the Baseline, we

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are back Callie Warrenshaw Baseline, NBA
Podcasts and our episode of the part of

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the show this week is Media Day
Burning questions, Like, if we were

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actually there during Media Day at all
of these locations, what questions will we

411
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.240
be posing to the organization and players
alike? So the next team that we

412
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:37.279
want to you know what I'm saying, make our way out too, is

413
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:42.480
out in New Orleans. Obviously,
Zion has had quite the interesting offseason so

414
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:49.319
far. I don't know what to
say about where we are with the New

415
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:53.839
Orleans Pelicans when this is all said
and done. But if we were actually

416
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:57.680
their shaw, I think the question
that we would want to ask him is

417
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:06.839
are you ready to put the summer
well beyond well behind you and really answer

418
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:15.079
the tough questions that need to be
answered about one your availability and two if

419
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:21.640
whether or not this is your year, your year to take onus of this

420
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:25.000
basketball team and put him in places
that a lot of people are hoping and

421
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.799
praying for, especially out of the
NOLA. Yeah. I think a lot

422
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.519
of what you know, we're going
to get the answer to parts of the

423
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.119
questions just by I think his overall
physical appearance, right, you know,

424
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:38.039
does he look trim, you know, chiseled for for what he is,

425
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:44.079
and does he is he taking his
diet and nutrition seriously? Right? We're

426
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:45.799
starting to see some of that in
the court of the course of summer.

427
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:51.240
But all that drama drama that he
had going on, you know, with

428
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:53.400
the you know, the stripper that
he was courting, and however you want

429
00:29:53.440 --> 00:30:02.240
to phrase that, I'm just gonna
take. So he was in, you

430
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:03.799
know, some sort of situation ship, you know, with the young lady,

431
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.839
and you know, the he was
in something. I don't know if

432
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.200
it was a relationship, but he
was in something, I said, a

433
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.960
situation ship. So he was in
a situation ship with that young lady.

434
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.160
And yeah, that caused a lot
of drama for him. So was he

435
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:23.000
able to put that to the side
right focus on basketball where she accused him

436
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:27.279
blatantly of not ever really being able
to do And then he started to see

437
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:30.440
that even some of his teammates like, listen, he seems like he quit

438
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:34.359
on them, and so there's some
mending offenses that needs to happen there.

439
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.720
And I think, if you're in
the media for the Nuance Pelicans media day

440
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.960
again, how does he look?
And then the questions of like, how

441
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.079
are you now mentally ready as well
as physically ready to kind of put a

442
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:49.519
dramatic summer, a bad season really
behind you and contribute to a team that

443
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.680
had so much potential. You forget
they were in first place right in mid

444
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:56.880
December, and we're like Yo,
this team is coming out of nowhere,

445
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.799
and he was playing at a high
level again and Ingram was still in and

446
00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.440
out of the lineup, and he
was really seeming like he was going to

447
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.559
be able to carry that roster and
then it just like as it always seems

448
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.799
to do, it just goes away
because of all the injuries that he continues

449
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:15.119
to suffer. This is a roster
that really needs him to be a leader

450
00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:18.079
on this team, and not necessarily
in the locker room sense, but definitely

451
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:22.799
on the floor in terms of producing
and giving up big numbers that he's very

452
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.920
much capable of. So what do
we say? Shaw has been the you

453
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:30.000
know, the number one theme when
it comes to a lot of these superstars

454
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.240
and the expectations of what they're supposed
to bring an organization and a fan base.

455
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:37.960
Right, the best ability is availability, and that's just really what it

456
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.640
comes down to. But I'm going
to flip this because you really, you

457
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:48.960
interestingly alluded to the one aspect that
I think should actually be at the forefront.

458
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:55.359
I think this ability that he needs
to really make sure is on point

459
00:31:55.400 --> 00:32:00.759
with lends to the physical ability,
right, his mental ability, Like what

460
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:07.960
I'm saying is him being completely focused
on playing basketball, right, all of

461
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.920
these other things that are going on. Listen, there's tons of players out

462
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:14.759
there that have all kinds of craziness. I mean, you just don't find

463
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:16.400
out about it because they do really
do a good job of keeping that stuff

464
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:21.920
under wraps, you know what I'm
saying. Or they're just so damn good

465
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.759
that even whatever the drama looks like, you can completely tell it does not

466
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:30.599
phase them. Right. One thing
that I lend to what I think about

467
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:36.400
this Shaw Kobe Bryant. Think about
the drama that Kobe Bryant really inflicted upon

468
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:40.480
himself, right, and part of
that was just lack of maturity. But

469
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:44.839
when you listen to him talk,
when you listen to him, you know,

470
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.400
answer questions, when you see how
he acts when he goes on,

471
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.759
you can completely tell there's a jekylin
Hide effect. He knows how to separate

472
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:58.000
Kobe that wants to play from Kobe
the man about the business of playing and

473
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:01.920
winning championships for the Los Angeles Lake, right. And that's unfortunately something that

474
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:07.559
a lot of these young players just
seem to either lack or don't really understand,

475
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.960
or have not taken the time to
properly understand, and Zion falls right

476
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:16.839
into that fold. His mental focus
needs to be about the game of basketball.

477
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:22.480
If the if the New Orleans Pelicans
believe that the expectations for them to

478
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:27.960
win a championship cannot be done without
him him being on that basketball court.

479
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.680
So it's as simple as this.
If he's still addressing nonsense that's off the

480
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:37.079
court and not the stuff that's really
on the court, it doesn't matter how

481
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.480
physically chiseled he is. It doesn't
matter if he dropped one hundred and fifty

482
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:45.599
pounds or if he's like looking like
you know, Ronnie Coleman, you know

483
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:49.599
what I'm saying. On the basketball
it doesn't matter because it will mean nothing

484
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.839
because for him to get through the
season, he has to be mentally locked

485
00:33:53.880 --> 00:34:00.519
in in order for the New Orleans
Pelicans to have a serious shot at making

486
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:04.920
a deep run into playoffs, let
alone this idea about them being a possible

487
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.480
contender for some type of championship.
I mean, that's what it all stems

488
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:13.239
down to you. So ironically,
there's another person in you know, his

489
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.559
drift class that you know we are
going to be worried about, well,

490
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:17.119
you know how his mental state is
going to be coming in and when he

491
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:21.079
gets back as well too. So
a Zion has a lot to figure out,

492
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:23.440
as do the Pelicans in terms of
how they want to bring him back

493
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:29.039
into the process of their team and
what maturation has been able to show again

494
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:32.079
after what was a very very strange
and odd season and they only got worse

495
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:36.119
and exacerbated by you know, some
of the summer drama that he experienced.

496
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:37.639
And I got to say this as
well too, Shaw. One thing that

497
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:42.639
I'm I would probably expect Zaia not
to you know, this media day,

498
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.400
So of course you got to be
out there through out the smiles, kiss

499
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.360
the babies and all the other good
stuff. But I would expect him to

500
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.719
say less, right, I want
him to say less. I think the

501
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.480
less you say, the more focused
I think you are. Because some of

502
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.039
these guys love to eat them loves
love them else being in that camera,

503
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:05.480
love themselves, getting that seeing that
digital flash, love getting those clicks.

504
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.480
If you are are someone who's like
yes and I'm about the business of the

505
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:12.960
business, and you leave it at
that, I think most of the guys

506
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.920
in the media realize that they need
to give you your space and give you

507
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:21.239
the requisite time necessary for you to
really get comfortable being the guy that everybody

508
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.800
is hoping that you'll be. And
I say that even from your teammates perspective.

509
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:28.159
So it'll be interesting to see what
version of Zion Williamson comes out there,

510
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.800
because when he when he smiles and
cheeses all this stuff, all I

511
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:36.000
keep thinking of myself is Yep,
another injury. Yep. You know what

512
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:38.400
I'm saying, not gonna make it
through the season, association, I'm gonna

513
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:42.840
let you ride with me, let
me ride with it. I'm just cordible,

514
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.519
and it's quotable doesn't mean right.
No, What I'm just basically saying

515
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:51.760
is is that sometimes we get consumed
with the obligations of being that guy,

516
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:55.000
being that personality, and we don't
take care of the necessary. Sometimes you

517
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.880
gotta be an a hole in order
for you to make sure that you get

518
00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:00.840
what needs to be a common and
then you can go back to being nice

519
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:05.719
to people. But everybody wants you
to stay nice because they're getting what they

520
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.599
need from you, which is more
questions about who you are and what you're

521
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.679
It just gives him reason to hang
around you. But I think the less

522
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.280
that you give him that look at
look at Kobe Bryant and the way he

523
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:22.760
got after that situation in Denver.
Right, he made sure that he like

524
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:29.599
basically inoculated himself from trying to be
the Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers showtime personality,

525
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.800
front face type of guy and suddenly
became the black Mamba, as they

526
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:36.679
say, you know what I'm saying, Like, he became the black Mamba

527
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.920
because he shut all of that stuff
down and he made everyone see first the

528
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:44.320
business of him winning for the Los
Angeles Lakers, and I think a lot

529
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.920
of people respected him for that,
even though that that part of his life

530
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:51.199
still hung over him until he started
showing him that he was a family man

531
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.199
and he was about being a girl, a girl dad and all the other

532
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:58.000
kind of stuff. So all right, let's move forward because we got another

533
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.719
dude we gotta call out on this
craziness was too But first we got to

534
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:05.079
go to Golden State. And obviously
the big move of Chris Paul going to

535
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.840
Golden State, and we thought it
was a prank. We thought, all

536
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:09.719
right, so where's the next destination
Chris Paul's going to? Because you know

537
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:15.760
this can't be actually the last,
the last stop or the final destination for

538
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:17.800
him. But low and behold,
as we sit here, Shaw, no

539
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:22.039
movements have been made. So Golden
State is dug all in on CP three

540
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:27.559
being a part of this run,
possible last run that the Golden State Warriors

541
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:30.519
are gonna make. Is Chris Paul
prepared to come off the bench in Golden

542
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:35.159
State or is Golden State prepared for
Chris Paul to come off the bench?

543
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:38.440
Yeah? A great question. I
think that you know, he has been

544
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:44.400
asked. I think formally it's been
litigated in the media almost that nauseum over

545
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.280
the course of the over the summer, and you know, there's a lot

546
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.679
of Warrior faithful feel like, listen, yeah, bro, just just go

547
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.239
ahead and do that. You don't
need to be in this starting lineup.

548
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.159
You can reserve your body as well
to play with that second unit on a

549
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:59.719
team that may not need what he
can offer in that first unit, and

550
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.079
he might be better serve getting the
commingas of the world and getting them shots,

551
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.039
you know, by virtue of his
potentially a play creation there. So

552
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:10.239
I think it's gonna be a interesting
question. We've seen him in the summer

553
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:14.360
here now working with Draymond and some
others as well to trying to build some

554
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.239
report and chemistry. There was some
engling that needs to be done from when

555
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:21.000
they were, you know, opponents
on opposite teams. But I'm very interested

556
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:22.880
to see what's going to happen there
and how he handles that. And I

557
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:27.000
think he's not going to give us
the carmelo whom. I think he's going

558
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.159
to be like, whatever the team
needs us to do, needs me to

559
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.360
do, I'm willing to do that. So I'm going to take a positive

560
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:36.079
light on this here as Chris Paul
joins a team that has obviously won four

561
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:42.599
championships. Look, man, at
first, I wasn't really understanding the logic

562
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.880
of this move by the Golden State
Warriors. And then, you know,

563
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:51.840
after seeing you know, and rewatching
some of Chris Paul play, I can

564
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:53.480
understand why this move had to be
done. You know what I'm saying,

565
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:57.840
I really genuinely understand why this had
to be done. I don't know if

566
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:00.119
whether or not this was overall the
best move for Golden State, but if

567
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:04.199
you're gonna make a move, certainly
make sure that you make a move that

568
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.039
I think shakes the dynamic up a
little bit and really kind of changes the

569
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:12.719
mentality, you know, of what
this team needs to be comprised of,

570
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.840
if there isn't a real expectation that
they're gonna make or run. Like you

571
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:19.760
could see, the last couple of
years of Golden State have been making experimental

572
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.519
moves, experimental trades, and they've
not panned out this one. You really

573
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:29.280
can't. You can't fail at this
one because the player himself will refuse to

574
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.599
fail. The player himself can morph
into whatever it is you ask of him

575
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:37.000
because he just wants to win.
And as much as people dislike Chris Paul

576
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.159
for that, it's the very same
reason a lot of people respect him for

577
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:45.119
that as well too. And if
you're gonna have two bulldogs in the pit,

578
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.920
I probably would rather have those bulldogs
on my side of the pit than

579
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:54.280
at each other. So with Draymond
and CP three, you know, Curry

580
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:58.360
and Tom sending a CP three,
Yeo, man, that's a lot of

581
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.719
pit bulls, you know what I'm
saying. They all got a lot of

582
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.639
grievances, they all got a lot
of attitude, so to speak. With

583
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:07.400
the way that the Young Movement has
operated in space, I want to see

584
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.360
if whether or not Chris Paul can
exactly you know, can exude that,

585
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:14.320
you know, against his former team
in Phoenix. I want to see if

586
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:15.840
whether or not he can exude that
against you know, some of the other

587
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:22.000
teams that the Golden State Warriors have
some issues with, like against the Memphis

588
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:24.679
Grizzlies, you know what I'm saying, or maybe the Sacramento Kings. So

589
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:28.639
it'll be interesting to see where Chris
Paul fits himself. But listen, let

590
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:30.320
it not be said, it don't
take much for Chris Paul to be a

591
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:34.199
part of the you know what I'm
saying, all of the Shenanikans that go

592
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.760
on, because he himself is full
of those things. Right, So this

593
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.400
might actually play itself out well for
Golden State. Whether or not that translates

594
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:44.920
to them being a top three,
top four team in the Western Conference,

595
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:47.760
who knows. But I like the
idea that he can do he can he

596
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:52.559
can morph himself into being a valuable
asset to the Golden State Warriors, rather

597
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:57.840
than the Warriors investing so much of
trying to morph these young guys that they

598
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.400
thought could do that and they just
never pan. Now, yeah, let

599
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.639
me just say this really quickly.
I think a lot of it is like

600
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:06.559
coming off the tenor of how they
started last year. If he comes in

601
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:08.239
here with a negative attitude. Now, again, it's not going to derail

602
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:12.159
their season in the way that a
punches, you know, to another teammate,

603
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.679
but again, they just don't want
to have another beginning to their season

604
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.639
where there's drama involved. So if
he's like, Hey, whatever they need

605
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.119
me to do, whether that's come
off the bench or I'm going to start

606
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.559
whatever that is, and I think
Kurd's gonna have to define that role pretty

607
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:29.159
quickly. So the question really should
be two parts, you know, to

608
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.159
Steve Kerr and Chris Paul kind of
about what that role definement ultimately is going

609
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.960
to because they just need to get
off to a good start after their whole

610
00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:37.800
season being derailed by that punch with
Draymond and Jordan Pool last year. All

611
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.239
Right, man, I listen,
I might throw a little foreshadowing out there

612
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:45.719
to you because you know, we
may we may wind up doing our awards

613
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:49.400
previews, be on the lookout for
Chris Paul being a six Man of the

614
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:53.239
Year. But I mean it's a
that's a real possibility, a real possibility

615
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:58.719
to accept the role there's a real
possibility there. All right, your tune

616
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.639
to the baseline. Callie Warren's y'all
discussing the hot button topics of the NBA,

617
00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:06.960
continuing our episode of the Media Day
Burning Questions. So Shaw out in

618
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:14.719
Memphis? Yeah, uh, sometimes
I wish he did, you know what

619
00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:19.000
I'm saying. He leaned on Hailey
silas Sei for some pure guidance, you

620
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.280
know, for some of the foolishness
that he didn't put himself through. But

621
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:27.320
listen, it is what it is. He's had to, you know what

622
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.440
I'm saying, swallowed a bitter pill. You know, obviously the Memphis Grizzlies

623
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:35.320
are gonna have to, you know, play essentially a quarter of a season,

624
00:42:35.880 --> 00:42:38.679
more than a quarter of a season
without him. So what do we

625
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:43.480
make of this Shaw? If you're
the Memphis Grizzlies, how do you allow

626
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.840
John Morant back into the facility?
And you know, Kenny men Bridges and

627
00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:52.039
let me throw this out there.
You know as well too, we've already

628
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:59.320
seen out in baseball, right with
Fernando Tatis Junior with the nonsense that he

629
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.559
pulled and in leaving his team,
you know, hanging when they had an

630
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:07.199
opportunity you know, to make a
World Series run last year and how it

631
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:12.760
impacted, you know, the dynamic
of this baseball team to such an extent

632
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.320
that even though when he came back, you know, this Padre's team still

633
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:20.719
wasn't in sync. There's always talent, you know what I'm saying. Talent

634
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.280
is everywhere, but what you do
with that talent and what that talent translates

635
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:29.119
to to the other guys that you
have to play with and four and I

636
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:30.960
think makes all the difference in the
world or whether or not people really buy

637
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:36.440
into the sincerity of you coming back
and really being about this organization and being

638
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:40.159
about the team, whether or not
you just bullshocking and jiving. Yeah,

639
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:43.920
now real talk. And I think
what's going to happen here is like I

640
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.920
would be mildly surprised if we see
Ja in any capacity at me to day

641
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:51.920
and even understanding the terms of the
suspension right because I believe it's the NBA

642
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.079
who was spending them and not the
team. So is he can he even

643
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.760
be in the facility and media day? I don't think that's a possibility.

644
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.039
But when does he have the ability
and rights who start ramping back up coming

645
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.119
around as teammates, you know,
men in those bridges in person in the

646
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:08.960
facility, because I'm sure you can
see them off the quarter and whatever the

647
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.679
various spaces, restaurants where the case
may be, you know, but can

648
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.400
he come back there? And I
think we probably won't see Jaw in the

649
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:19.559
actual facility until about a month before
he's due back, right, So if

650
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:22.280
he's due back sometime in December,
sometime in Novembers, when he's probably start

651
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:27.320
ramping back up and even practicing with
the team to some degree preparing for his

652
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.400
return, assuming he's done everything that
he's needed to do from the NBA standpoint

653
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:35.519
and even the team standpoint. But
I would be maybe even more than mildly

654
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:38.800
surprised if we see him on October
two in the facility in any capacity,

655
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.400
because I am sure that he's going
to stay away from the media and asking

656
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:44.639
questions. But I think just even
being there to work out, I don't

657
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.360
think they're gonna allow him back in
just yet. Yeah. So look,

658
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:52.079
they're gonna the Memphis, the Remphiss
Grizzlies are going to pull out you know,

659
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:59.199
how to Shield our Star Player playbook, and they're gonna follow it to

660
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:04.440
a t and I just think it's
such an it's not a good thing for

661
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:09.679
the Memphis Grizzlies. I just,
I genuinely think that sometimes quality players need

662
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:14.960
to learn the hard way about how
quickly they need to mature and how they

663
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:16.880
need to own the situation for what
it is, for what it's worth.

664
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:21.199
You know, if John Morrand wants
to come back to that facility, if

665
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.159
you are the Memphis Grizzlies, I
think the Memphis Grizzlies should be like,

666
00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:29.159
you need to earn the right to
come back to this facility, right,

667
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.960
if you really think about it,
John Morant did two things that were really,

668
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:36.000
really foul. The first thing that
he did is he did all of

669
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:40.800
this nonsense and then in public on
public television, basically lied to everybody that

670
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:45.880
he, you know, has mental
problems and took a you know, went

671
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:49.519
on a sabbatical and did all of
these things. He was bsen, Right,

672
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.400
do you lie to do You lied
to the to the quote unquote the

673
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:58.119
NBA faithful, which can be a
bitter pill to swallow, because if you

674
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:00.719
don't live up to the hype,
if you don't live up to the standards

675
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:05.360
that you said, everybody's gonna call
you out all the time. But the

676
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:07.039
other big thing that he did is
he lied to the organization, the very

677
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:12.320
organization that put Jenkins out there.
The ownership is out there, all of

678
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.599
these media people, PR people are
out there speaking on your behalf, and

679
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:20.079
you're running around doing some nonsense that's
is contrary to what it is that they're

680
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.880
speaking to. I just believe if
you're the Memphis Grizzlies, and look,

681
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:28.880
I understand if your team is down, if you're so many games, you

682
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.840
know, out of playoff contention,
or you know, you realize that you

683
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.000
know this run may actually be a
real run, and you obviously feel like

684
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:39.480
John Morans a person to get you
over the top, You're gonna basically suck

685
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:44.679
it up. You're gonna compromise,
and you're gonna allow him to come back

686
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:47.840
into the facility. And in essence, you know, it's gonna act as

687
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:52.840
if you know nothing ever occurred.
Me. I just lent myself to the

688
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:57.480
idea that you lie to my this
organization, like this organization is giving you

689
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:00.239
everything at this point, right,
we gave you everything you needed, we

690
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.079
give you everything you wanted, and
even then still we're still trying to protect

691
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.440
you. You need to do right
by us for a change, you know

692
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.760
what I'm saying. And so I
want to see if whether or not the

693
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:14.639
Memphis Grizzlies really do do that,
because I think that's the only way a

694
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:20.239
person like John Morant will properly understand
the magnitude of his actions. It can't

695
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:23.159
happen, you know, just because
we're following the NBA protocol of how we

696
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:27.400
allow superstar athletes to get in trouble, to come back in and just act

697
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:30.920
as if everything is good and everything
is on the norm. It's really the

698
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:35.679
organizations and the way that they lay
this out and make sure that they hold

699
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.960
that player's feet to the fire.
And I think a lot of it as

700
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.559
well too is whether the players are
on board with that as well too,

701
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:44.559
Like that should be a question should
be posed, like do you want John

702
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.079
Morant just walking up in here like
everything is all good and he can just

703
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:52.760
assimilate himself again, like like nothing
ever happened. Or do you make him

704
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:57.360
earn that respect, like he needs
to earn that respect in the locker room,

705
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.320
earn that respect on during practices,
earn that respect or in the team

706
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:05.239
dinners and on the team flights and
things of that nature. I would love

707
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.800
to see if whether or not an
organization holds a guy like John or Rant

708
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:12.719
to that kind of high account.
Well, again, not to believe it.

709
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.320
I would just you know, only
maybe not even challenge, maybe somewhat

710
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:19.840
you know, kind of just you
know, we have to quit quit him

711
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.320
into some degree. I don't know
that we can say that he he lied

712
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:25.920
about whatever his mental issues may have
been and what his state was. We

713
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.760
can't say that he lied about that, and I think there's some evidence that

714
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:34.320
would lend to that, you know, to maybe make us not believe that.

715
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.159
Well, let me, I'm sorry, unequivocally, let me correct that

716
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.920
part. Shaw. I didn't mean
to say it as saying he lied about

717
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:46.199
his mental state. I meant to
say he lied about addressing his mental state.

718
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:50.199
In other words, he said that
he went and did what he did,

719
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.360
and everybody knows that that's not what
really happened. Right. He just

720
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:58.760
basically said what was necessary to get
himself back on the basketball court and to

721
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:02.920
not basically look bad in front of
the people who obviously hurt or you know,

722
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:06.800
created this level of distrust from and
that's all that it was. He

723
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.079
didn't want to get in trouble.
He already lied to Adam Silver, Right,

724
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:13.320
I think you're lying to Adam Silver
is one thing. Yeah, he's

725
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:15.840
gonna do what he does. But
you lye into Jenkins, you lie into

726
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:20.599
the organization. You essentially lied to
your teammates faces. You know what I'm

727
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.360
saying, Like they're they're hoping more
so for your well being, that you're

728
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:27.039
taking care of what you need to
take care of, and you're not even

729
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:30.480
doing that. So what is that
saying to you to your teammates, Right,

730
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:34.760
That's what I'm saying, Like you're
giving them undue stress and things to

731
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.519
focus on. It they shouldn't have
to focus on because they were relying on

732
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:39.119
the fact that when you said that
you were gonna go handle it, you

733
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:43.039
didn't go handle it, you know. And so that's what I mean when

734
00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.639
I was trying to explain that part
of it, right, brother, Fair

735
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:47.920
enough? All right, your tune
to the base slide Callie Warren Shall discussing

736
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.719
the hot button topics of the NBA. We got the last part of our

737
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.320
media day burning questions to throw out
at you got some good stuff on the

738
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.400
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00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.880
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751
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All right, we are bat Callie
Warrenshaw Baseline NBA Podcasts and this week's

752
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:59.159
episode Media Day Burning Questions. We've
been traveling all over the US. Shaw

753
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:01.320
Man. We've been making it work
man, throwing out all of these these

754
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:07.760
interesting questions that we would want to
ask the organizations or teams or players for

755
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:12.400
that matter, during NBA Media Day. And so let's go ahead and set

756
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.400
our sights out in Phoenix. Shaw
Obviously the big move of the Phoenix Suns

757
00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:21.239
getting Bradley Beale adding them, you
know, adding to the roster. Will

758
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:28.599
Bradley Beale be a primary playmaker for
the Phoenix Suns? Now? I would

759
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.679
not ask that question to Bradley Beal. I would ask that question to Kevin

760
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:34.719
Durant because I want to see how
smart you know, how how smart?

761
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.719
Asked of an answer, he would
like to like to throw a response back

762
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:42.360
at me for even posing that question. I mean, but but that's that's

763
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:44.719
what they're saying, right, He's
going to be the guy. And he

764
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:49.360
did spend some time at Point in
Washington like some seasons ago, primary playmaker

765
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.639
and shot creator for himself as well. But now with Booker and kd you

766
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:55.679
know on the wings, hey,
is he going to be the one who's

767
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:00.440
going to distribute on a regular basis. And it could be argued that both

768
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:05.960
Booker and Durant actually have better or
more natural playmaking skills. So I think

769
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:08.280
that the fact that this has come
out somewhat a little bit is really the

770
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.679
reason why we want to even question
this aspect. It's all right, is

771
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.400
it really going to be Beal who
can play create, so to speak,

772
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:19.480
but is probably still better, you
know, coming off the ball and pain

773
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.320
downs and spoting up to some degree, but he is he does have a

774
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:27.159
little ability to create for himself.
I think it's over amplified or the way

775
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:30.360
it was in Washington when he had
to kind of be the play creator for

776
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:32.480
others as well. And I obviously
know Booker and Durant or elite, but

777
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:36.119
I think they're more natural at it. But at the end of the day,

778
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:37.920
they're also better scores than he is
too, so I guess, you

779
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:42.360
know, by default he kind of
has to take a lesser role and he

780
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:45.960
won't be a twenty five pin point
per game guy, but maybe he's a

781
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:50.039
twenty two twenty one point per game
guy and getting six seven eight assists a

782
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.280
night. But it's interesting because I
think Booker and Durant can also do some

783
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:55.239
of those things, So how will
they share the load when it comes to

784
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:59.960
playmaking duties in Phoenix. Yeah,
I think this is going to be a

785
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:05.000
very interesting question through the course of
the year. And it's funny shall because

786
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:08.320
I think people are going to look
at that question and think translate wins in

787
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:13.079
order to determine that answer, when
I think what you really should want to

788
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:20.519
look at is who should be the
person you know with the rock in crunch

789
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:24.400
time? You know who is the
person that you want to make the initial

790
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:30.920
run so that the Suns are separating
themselves from whoever they're playing against. And

791
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:36.960
I think it all still comes back
to Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. While

792
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:42.280
Bradley Beale, I think is a
great player. I wonder if whether or

793
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:46.840
not this version and what version that
comes out playing next to both of these

794
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:52.480
guys, what version of Bradley Beale
is going to emerge, and so whether

795
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:57.480
it's be someone that you're saying should
be a primary playmaker or maybe he tests

796
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:01.639
to turn himself into a primary primary
play crea yater. My question has always

797
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:07.280
going to be is for Bradley Beale, will he be at the maximum level

798
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:14.840
of whatever version the Son's need of
him in order for them to have this

799
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:21.199
trifecta that they formed. And it'll
be interesting to see if that happens,

800
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:25.079
because I personally believe when you look
at Bradley Beale's career, and I think

801
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:30.320
he's had an extraordinary career given the
circumstances, I don't think he's ever really

802
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:36.119
done anything so like extremely well,
you know what I'm saying, Like he

803
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:43.280
does things great right when he had
opportunity to really, you know, elevate

804
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:46.360
himself to such a level, well
beyond that of John wall for example,

805
00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:51.840
he really only elevated himself to so
much, and partly because of the fact

806
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:54.280
he couldn't stay healthy, but mainly
because of the fact that, like his

807
00:54:55.239 --> 00:55:00.800
ascension for shooting the basketball was more
gradual, like he shoots the basketball well,

808
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:04.840
but for someone like who he was, and when he came out of

809
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:08.400
the University of Florida, we were
expecting him to be something shooting the basketball,

810
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:12.639
very Klay Thompson esque, you know
what I'm saying, Not Curry,

811
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:15.320
but Clay Thompson, Dame lillardesque,
right, And I don't think that he

812
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:19.840
does that even on that level.
I think he's the next tier below that,

813
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:24.480
And so it'll be interesting to see
what the Sons are gonna do in

814
00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:29.440
order to put him in a position
where he could be that kind of shooter

815
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:31.800
where he could be that kind of
score, because I think that's what the

816
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:38.440
Sons are gonna ultimately need. So
I'm very interested to see how long they're

817
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:43.280
gonna stick to this idea that they
want to make him the primary playmaker.

818
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:47.719
But if they suddenly realize that his
shooting isn't as quite on point as what

819
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:52.840
they're hoping that should be, well, guess who's gonna wind up taking those

820
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:57.079
shots again, Devin? And then
what are you gonna do with Bradley Beale?

821
00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:59.679
He ain't coming off the bench.
He's gonna have to learn how to

822
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.480
facil to take that basketball to the
guys who can go out there and get

823
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:08.039
those buckets a lot easier than Bradley
Beal. Will Wow, you are doomsday

824
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:10.800
to hear my guy. I mean, think about it from this standpoint.

825
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:14.360
So Bal has been averaging, you
know, over five assistant game for the

826
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:16.480
last you know, four or five
seasons. So even so he had two

827
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:20.320
seasons in a row he was over
thirty. Then he dropped down into twenty

828
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:22.000
three and twenty three the last couple
of years or whatever the case, but

829
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:25.639
still five six assists. So that's
where I understand why they're trying to potentially

830
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:29.599
do it, but also think about
the teammates he played with. While you

831
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.239
know, last year Kuzma and Porzingez, you know, we're probably some of

832
00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:36.159
the better teammates that he's had in
terms of running mates, and in recent

833
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:40.000
years now you have Vin Kevin Duranta
and Devin Booker. So shots for him

834
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:44.920
are going to be easier because the
gravitass of those two guys are immense,

835
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.840
So he'll get better looks and obviously
shouldn't improve his efficiency. So I think

836
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:53.440
we may say similar numbers even from
even last year at Washington twenty three and

837
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:57.840
six, twenty three and five,
whatever it is, but with like very

838
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.960
very high efficiency that would probably speak
to what you are talking about here now.

839
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:02.679
So if you can get back into
and he shot fifty percent last year,

840
00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:06.599
so you know, if you can
get back into that fifty two percent,

841
00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:07.480
you know, as a guard,
as a lead guard, if you

842
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:12.360
will hand in the basketball, that
will make PHENI is extremely dangerous because again

843
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.039
the gravity of Duran and Booker are
so immense that I think Booker is poised

844
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:19.920
to have a very very great statistical
and even more importantly efficient year for the

845
00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:25.400
Phoenix Suns if you said if okay, I did. Sorry, I was

846
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:30.599
leaning a lot more into my doomsday
mentality. All right, sew which youth

847
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:35.639
movement is ready to make a leap? Bancero's Magic or Kade's Pistons. We're

848
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:37.280
trying to, you know, meet
the teams in the middle here. You

849
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:39.960
know, we obviously can't be in
Orlando and Detroit at the same time.

850
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:45.360
So yeah, so this is this
is a baseline media day question because if

851
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:46.719
we can't ask Paula or you're gonna
be better than Kade? And Kad?

852
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:52.440
Are you gonna be better than Polo? We just we just we'll just we'll

853
00:57:52.559 --> 00:58:00.559
use what is it must? What
is that X must? You know,

854
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:04.480
I think it's a great question.
Both of these teams I think are young,

855
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.519
A lot of young talent on their
roster. I'd say only by virtue

856
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:10.800
of what we saw last year because
they were healthier. Is Orlando is probably

857
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:15.760
a slightly ahead of where the Pistons
are, But you know, I think

858
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:19.440
it's it's a question that if you
were to ask you to one of them,

859
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:21.920
they both got to feel like they're
worth their sault, especially with Detroit

860
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:27.519
having new coach in tow bogdanovinch in
here for a second year, obviously Kid

861
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.800
coming back, Jade and Ivy only
to potentially get better. But I think

862
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:32.519
on the Magic side, you know, their draft picks and then obviously getting

863
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:36.239
Jonathan Isaac back if he's you know, even really gonna play wind, they'll

864
00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:38.840
Carter and obviously By and Carrol.
These are two really really great basketball teams,

865
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:44.679
young basketball teams that are are really
really ready to come from the bottom

866
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:46.960
of the Eastern Conference here and try
to fight their way into the at least

867
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:51.199
in playing game. I think both
of these teams have that level of talent

868
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:53.199
if they can be healthy throughout the
course of the season. But I don't

869
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.320
even know which one to pick because
I think, you know that they are

870
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:58.760
probably equal to me, and I'd
be interested to see kind of what the

871
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:02.079
Vegas Oz are in terms of they're
over unders. I think Paul Paul Bancio

872
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:06.599
would be very confident in believing that
the Magic are ready to take that next

873
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:09.639
step, and I think Kade will
believe that you know, both you know,

874
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:14.719
you know, with his let him
leading the Pistons, that they're gonna

875
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:19.039
you know, take you know,
tremendous trides. You know, to quote

876
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.599
unquote upset the Apple card a little
bit right now. So I like it.

877
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:28.239
I like the idea of the confidence
that both of these teams are going

878
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:30.559
to have with these players, given
what they've been doing, you know,

879
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:35.559
especially in the off season and the
work that they put in to really put

880
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.239
people on notice that you know,
they are going to be the next They're

881
00:59:38.239 --> 00:59:42.840
going to be the future, the
next generation. You know of the hybrid

882
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:46.199
score from the wing position. Again, you know, it kind of fell

883
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:51.719
off, but now you're seeing a
resurgence with Boncero and with Kade Cunningham and

884
00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:55.159
what they can bring to the table. So I'm liking the idea of what

885
00:59:55.199 --> 01:00:00.000
that means. And I think ultimately
I like the the the pistons. I

886
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:05.360
think that there's more able bodies that
have more definitive roles that Monty can work

887
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:09.679
with. And I think as long
as Kade is healthy, Monty is gonna's

888
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:14.760
gonna hone in on what he've already
he's already seen from Kade, who I

889
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:17.480
think, by leaps and bounds,
is like in a really great position to

890
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:22.039
make his team overall better. I
think Bonchero is going to be shouldering a

891
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:25.800
lot of the burden of, you
know, putting the ball in the basket

892
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:29.679
and doing a lot of other things, and I think the rest of the

893
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:31.000
team is going to have to catch
up with him in order to be on

894
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:35.920
that level that he's on already.
But they do have a really good team,

895
01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:38.079
and it just I hope that they
the players don't get lost in that

896
01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:44.360
fabric of playing under Banchero or the
game going through Bonchero, because they really

897
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:46.840
do have some quality players that I
really think they can elevate and possibly create

898
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:52.840
their own trifecta sort of speak,
or even a deep team with the type

899
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:55.199
of talent that the Magic has kind
of had, you know, roaming around

900
01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:58.920
over the last couple of seasons.
But whether or not it all comes together,

901
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:00.840
I think really is going to depend
on the leadership skills for both of

902
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:07.239
those players. Final question Shaw for
our for our listeners, and also for

903
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:12.719
our version of Burning Questions of Media
Day. Is this the year of MPJ

904
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:16.719
or are the Nuggets true Big three? Yokich, Murray and Aaron Gordon.

905
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.400
This is definitely a you question.
I'm gonna go ahead and throw it to

906
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.880
you first man, what are your
thoughts on MPJ because you seem to be

907
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:30.719
a little fixated on my guy here, and you know what he's abable or

908
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:32.719
what he's capable of doing, and
what he's not capable of doing within that

909
01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:36.440
system. You're ask me this when
we did their autopsy as well, and

910
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.760
I was just like, well,
they want a chip, So I think

911
01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:43.679
he's got to just continue to do
what he does. You know, even

912
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:45.960
with Bruce Brown out, I just
don't really see why he has to try

913
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:49.760
to do too much. Well,
I don't think it's a question of doing

914
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.320
too much, but I do think
it's a question of the team relying on

915
01:01:52.639 --> 01:02:00.039
MPJ, you know, to take
his game and you're really to to to

916
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:07.079
make it, you know, full
front center. You know, another dimension

917
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:14.280
that makes arguably the best basketball team
because they won the championship again coming into

918
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.960
this year, to be the best
basketball team, right. The one interesting

919
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.840
part of this show, and the
reason why I threw the question out more

920
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:24.320
so, was because if you look
at the way that the Nuggets are set

921
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:30.400
up, you've got really two offensively
explosive players and this one dude who suddenly

922
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:35.840
has become such a sound, defensive, versatile player in Aaron Gordon. And

923
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:39.039
look, Mike Malone was a defensive
mind, the type of guy, right,

924
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:44.960
but he understands the kind of tools
that he has in his toolbox to

925
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:47.960
work with. So I think it's
allowed him to be patient with MPJ,

926
01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:52.840
especially over the last couple of seasons. And I just wonder if now we've

927
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:58.039
seen MPG win a chip, Yokich
win that chip, Murray win that chip.

928
01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:00.840
Does he rely on the fact that, you know, for this team

929
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:06.000
dynamically to still be at the top
of the food chain, are you going

930
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.559
to lean a lot more into what
MPJ is going to bring to the table

931
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:14.440
to compliment Yokich and Murray Or do
you like the idea that he can still

932
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:17.760
be in the shadows right and just
mainly be about what Yokis, Murray and

933
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:22.559
Gordon were able to show people in
their run to winning that championship, And

934
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:28.800
so I like the idea of Gordon, But I do think that this could

935
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:34.039
be the year of MPJ where people
really start taking note as to what this

936
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:38.599
guy can be as a mismatch problem, as an added problem already that the

937
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:44.320
Nuggets pose from a lineup standpoint,
you can't mess with Yokis like that.

938
01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:46.440
Murray, he you know, he's
a guard. So you know, he'll

939
01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:51.280
he'll have his moments, he'll be
streaky, but he's dynamic. But MPJ

940
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:57.159
is a mismatch problem if he plays
up to that level and Mike Malone buys

941
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:00.840
into using that as as as a
means to compliment what the Nuggets do.

942
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.280
All right, I'm gonna say,
Michael Porter Junior, is your is your

943
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:09.119
guilty pleasure? Man? Like you? You you want? That's right?

944
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:13.559
My, my, my, fifty
shades of MPJ. There you go?

945
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:15.440
Who there? Whoa there? All
right? Well, I think that's that's

946
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:20.079
all the time we have for today. List the show was going off the

947
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:24.960
rails, off the rails, completely
off the rails. A good show altogether,

948
01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:28.360
Shaw, you know, great stuff. I'm sure we could have traveled

949
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:30.400
all around man and found some you
know, other places that we would have

950
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:35.440
loved to have been to Boston,
you know, out there in uh Clipperland,

951
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:39.000
you know, laker Land. You
know, we may have to do

952
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:42.519
another part, you know, do
like part two of these burning Questions and

953
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:45.239
and see what those other organizations and
teams would have been thrown out there.

954
01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:49.039
Well, I'm sure we're going to
get some answers from those from those teams

955
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:54.480
and organizations asked me today unfold itself
to some when we're back next week or

956
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:58.519
private tap in on that see the
status of Kawai and PG. What do

957
01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:00.159
they give us anything to kind of
work off of, you know, to

958
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.360
get our fans and listeners going here. So but yeah, great one to

959
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:06.360
kind of get back into the rhythm
of the NBA season. We are literally

960
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:10.719
a week away from media Day,
so excited. Time's here for the baseline?

961
01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:13.039
Man, what is the season?
Eleven? Man? Man, we

962
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:15.400
rolling roll the wee boling were rolling. Man. We ain't going nowhere.

963
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.599
Once again, we like to thank
you and yours popping off board with us

964
01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:23.199
this week for the baseline. Kylie
Warren't y'all. We appreciate you guys,

965
01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:26.400
you know we do, and we'll
catch up with you next time.

