What is krak alacin fellow thermonuclear a efforts. I am Dana Valley coming at
you with my certified pan pad hes co host Grant News. We are doing
an episode where we're gonna draft teams of the best underpaid players we believe are
underpaid in the NBA. So we're not trying to assemble strictly the most underpaid
players in the league. It's who's underpaid and then who are the best players
from that group? And so Grant and I have our own docs, big
boards. We're gonna go through it see as the better team, and then
of course we will get to some stat padding sans guess a player for this
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This time of year link is in the description, Grant, how the
heck are you doing? I'm feeling underpaid, so I think that's what we
should talk about. I'm excited for this. We've we've been sitting on this
one for a while and I mostly forgot the players that I had listed,
And as I'm going through my positions, I'm very excited to see one what
you do and also how to counter that question for you? Though, before
we go any farther, I'm talking, I'm viewing underpaid players based on their
salaries for this season alone, and not like the length of their contracts.
Is that how you are approaching this? Yes, so I approached it the
same way. I think we actually, I don't know if we touched base
before we actually did this, but I think we ended up doing it the
same. I also did not include anyone who's on a first contract. I
don't care if they're technically a second rounder. I also stayed away from just
if these were I called him Sam Presty or or Sam Hinky specials, staying
away from staying away from just like the Isaiah Joe's specifically, or Eric Gordon
is on a minimum contract that's not a Sam Presty special, but he is
like just the one year minimum guy that did not include them either, because
I just feel like that gets a little too you know what have you?
So I mostly as I'm looking through, I have like I think I have
one or two guys on minimums here that I just won't pick. But no
minimums, no maxis because you could obviously make the case that Jokicic is underpaid
or whatever, and no rookie scale deals. Those are the ones I left
out. So these are contracts that have you know, been signed by players
outside of their rookie deals, outside of a max deal, And I'm going
to stay away from minimums, so you can hold me accountable on that one
too. So yeah, we'll do this. The I have it updating.
It's a little troubleshooting it right now. Stick with us though, so you
can see on the screen. I will update. Hopefully I have all the
players that I need, but if I don't, it might take a while
to appear on the screen. But we could go through them. We can
also talk about I guess would help if I had the document open, which
I where I kept all all this stuff. But we'll talk about, oh,
what is the player making, just like Grant said, just this season
alone, and then it's you know, we'll contextualize it. I have it
for most of my players. I don't know if you have it, and
I think we'll end up with a lot of the same players. But what
is their percentage of the salary cap that they're making? And so the goals
just to make the love a starting lineup? And then how many reserves?
Did I give us six reserves? So I guess just an eleven man rotation.
I didn't want to do twelve. So we'll try build, or we
can get and I'll throw it up on the screen as we get there,
but or just ten, go straight out ten. But let's just see where
we end up with this. And I guess you should get the first pick.
Oh man, Okay, So we gotta play the game here because there's
some positional scarcity that we got to address, and I think the point guard
spot is where I feel there are the fewest good options here. I just
don't want to take this guy because the underpaid part. You know, I'm
gonna do it I think I'm gonna take Jalen Brunson. And so that's a
big contract. That's twenty six I think that might be the biggest contract I
have on here. That's twenty six point four million according to what I looked
up, I don't have the percentage of the cap, but that's got to
be what I don't know, in the high teens. At least, Jalen
Brunton is making nineteen point three seven percent of this year's salary cap. All
right, I need Jalen Brunson because I do not like any of the other
lead guards here. That is, I'm like a little bit upset, but
I kind of I kind of get it. So let's throw him up on
yours. Does that work? He is not showing up? This is this
is awesome that this is happening. Let me just let me just tell you
that this is dope. I gotta look up wait it did it come up?
I just maybe can't see. Oh yeah, he's right, I got
it. He's there. Okay, So all right, I'm a little b
annoyed because he was probably gonna be my first pick here too. Am I
gonna go with positional scarcity or am I just gonna take No, I'm already
gonna be I feel like I'm already gonna be fucked from the point of attack.
So let's go. I'll use my first pick on Michale Bridges, who
was making twenty one point seven million this season, which is fifteen point nine
percent of the salary cap. All right, So I wanted to look up
while we're while you're populating Bridges Bridges picture there just wear brunts and ranks among
all right, Brunson is the sixteenth highest paid point guard. So that's gosh,
there's some other guys now that I see him there. All right,
Okay, so I would like to you tell me to slow down. If
you need me to slow down. Oh there he is, I'll just we
can keep going and I'll put it up on the screen. You want to
explain it a little bit. I mean, like Mchal Bridges are gonna have
to operate. I might move him to a guard spot. He might have
to operate from the point of attack. Just going through my the guys who
can create are just not necessarily normally underpaid. I guess there are a few.
I just now that you have brunts, and I don't expect you to
take them and tell them. That's how I'm galaxy braining. You're gonna no,
no, no, that's the right approach. You're gonna get your pick
of whoever else you want in the back court. Probably Okay, I gotta
go. I gotta go oj and Andobi. So No, he's making eighteen
point six, which is about three million in less than Bridges. Uh,
not nearly the offensive player, but I have my lead guard as it is.
So I'm just gonna get the most versatile defender on the board here and
you can call him put him at either at either front court or forward spot,
and I feel good about that. Yeah. So I just made it
three front courting case you wanted to play small, so which I think,
Well, I'm not saying I will yet for sure. There's some centers that
I like. But uh, yeah, that's so you took the first.
I mean mcal Bridges was I didn't make a big board per se, but
he would have been like first on I would have been in the top three,
would have been og Jalen Brunson and mckal bridges. And he took two
of the guys that I wanted benefits first. It's almost like we talk to
each other for hours and hours every week, and we think the same way.
Ogi Adenobi, by the way, makes thirteen point seventy one percent of
the salary cap, which is why he is not signed an extension. Yeah,
that's just like, I like the one hundred and forty percent number is
just that's not happening. This player who I'm about to pick, though,
and he's been so great when healthy this season, and now I'm really gonna
if I'm not gonna, you know, kind of juice the point of attack
offense with their traditional point of attack. Guy, I think he becomes mission
critical to this. I'm not even gonna reveal his name. I'm just gonna
refresh it on the screen and see if I already know who it is.
Yeah, obviously, Larry Martin in twelve point six nine percent of the salary
cap this year. He's remained hyper efficient in his role. He's not doing
a ton more self creation stuff. But the fact that the Jazz just they
have Kiante George, but they spent so much of this season without a quality
league guard that he's been as good as he is, that's just absolutely monstrous.
All Right. I got a couple of ways I can go here.
You you have exhausted my bolded wings slash forwards by taking marking in. There's
nobody else I love in that category, So I think I gotta do it.
Uh, he's been hurt, but I think I gotta go. Nick
Claxton, I knew maybe we're gonna do this. I'm eight eight point seven
million dollars this year. Do you want to know how much of the salary
gap that is? It's like five percent, it's seven point eight up seven
point it's not even seven point one percent, seven point zero eight. Yeah,
I had to do it. There's some other good centers, but that's
just like I mean, I will say I was about to say, I
don't know that I love your floor spacing set up at the moment. But
Jalen Brunson, which is why he was so high on my theoretical board,
has turned into and I'm not this is not like a joke. Just one
of the best off the dribble three pointers right now. Yeah, and Anonobe
is a forty percent shooter. He can't do anything with the ball, but
he'll he'll space just fine. My defense is well, Brunson is not a
great defender, So I mean I've taken care of that, so we're gonna
find some scoring later. I'm like, I have to go with the point
of attack stuff right now, or I feel like I'm just gonna continue to
load up on these guys that can do a bunch of different things. But
I do also feel like I might end up regretting this pick. Oh no,
am I gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do
it. Is it? I feel like I'm actually curious whether this person is
going to be on your list. I'm gonna go with Kentavious Caldwell, Pope
of course is on my list ten of the salary cap just a solid glue
guy. And as of right now, again like my self, creation I
have bridges. It's not really you know, a ton of like that juice
there. I need to just go with guys that I think can fill gaps
or he can do some stuff with the ball, whereas at least is just
gonna make a bunch of threes to make it worthwhile. So my wing my
sort of like two three four spots right now. I'm very happy with God.
I hate that that he makes perfect sense on my team, and now
I can't have him do. So the question now is do I just lose
my mind and just try to get a team that's gonna allow sixty five points
a game? Or do I care about shooting? That's that's a toughie.
I wonder who you're I mean, you have Nick Claxton already, so you're
not bereft of defense person. No, I have Claxton and Ananobi. That's
the thing is like I could go get another elite defender right now, or
or I'm not. I'm just gonna let you know. I'm not gonna get
over you getting both Brunton and Ananobe. I just don't think that's gonna be
something that dissipates for me. All Right, I'm stalling because I honestly I'm
not sure what I want to do here. Okay, you know what,
This space thing is going to be terrible. I'm gonna take Aaron Gordon ooh
is enormous. He makes twenty one million, so I got two guys over
the twenty million marks, so already, Well again, I think it's important
some people are Gordon at twenty one million, that's sixteen point three seven percent
of the salary cap. And I'll try and I'm trying to track it as
we go to see, Okay, like what percent of the salary cap do
you take? We're not trying to stay under one hundred because teams don't.
Good teams go over the salary cap. Anyways, I'm just curious who ends
up with the with the lower percentage, like the lowest percentage of it.
So we'll yeah contract that. But so were you? Yeah, all right,
I don't I mean I didn't. Obi is a shooter. Nick Claxton
is not as involved. Yeah, you're spacing is a little fac thing's hurting
right now. Yeah, I mean you're like really banking on the jail and
runs and off the dribble three point development being for real, Yeah, the
offense is going to be a struggle, especially because guys who can really score
and shoot do not tend to be underpaid, so there's not like a huge
supply left of those types of guys. KCP would have been the perfect shooting
guard, but you took him because you're a monster. Yeah. I'm like
starting to worry about my lack of creation though, but I don't necessarily want
I'm like thinking about do I need to get Derek White just to run my
my point guard stuff. I don't want to take this player, so I'm
not gonna h do I like fill out a bench roll right now? That's
what I'm contemplating doing. Do I get a big man? All right?
So I'm gonna go with this just because I think that this is legitimately Maybe
this is someone who's on potentially I won't guarantee it, but he might be
on the best contract in the NBA. He's making nine point five nine percent
of the salary cap this year. Would you care to venture a guess as
to who it is. I'm gonna need the raw number because I'm still bad
at converting. I can't do it because I feel like you're just gonna get
it. But I'll give the run number thirteen point one million. I'm rounding
up thirteen one. I don't know you're gonna just take him. Uh it
is, mister, I'm just gonna refresh it. I like to reveal Wendell
Carter Jr. Yeah Yeah, that's you get some spacing there too. Your
team can space it. You got five guys that can shoot. My starting
five right now is Wendell Carter Junior. Lowry Market in Mchalbridge it's called the
Pope. That's that's nice. Okay, So I promise I was gonna take
this guy at some point before you mentioned his name, but I have to
do it now. And that is Derek White. He's going to be the
other backcourt player with Jalen Brunson. He can guard the best guard. How
good is my defense? We're taking some very different approaches to our tour.
Well you've decided to. I mean, I don't I wouldn't call Derek White.
I'm saying this like it's spicy. I wouldn't call him a non shooter.
He's not a non shooter. But your spacing is just like, yeah,
one of these guys might be need to move to the bench for you.
Hey, you know, we'll see what happens. We'll see how it
shakes out. Also, I'm just gonna say the Derek White headshot pick.
It's just very jarring for me at the moment because he doesn't have like his
his trademark haircut. He looks like a totally different person, having shaved his
head this year. He's a different player. So let's refresh your team here.
I'm just going to get over. I'm I don't care about formatting them
anymore, because this is this is why we need a freaking producer. Well,
so I don't think I said seventeen point five million. So another guy
who's debatably you know, I'm not down on the sub tens like you are.
I was underraated my but like that's the decent chunk. Thirteen point five
percent of the salary cap, though, is pretty wild. I'm wondering.
So I'm thinking about doing something that might be fairly stupid, but it also
might be like super awesome because I'm like, I might move it around.
So I'm just gonna take this guy because I want my defense to just slaughter
is basically what it is. I want to have, like a really good
playmaking defense. He doesn't bring facilitation, which is why enough facilitation, I'll
say, which is why I might bring him off the bench depending on who
becomes available later. But he's making six point nine point five so under seven
percent of the salary cap, which is just outrageous. He has made an
all defensive team. He's going to force turnovers like woe. He can anchor
the defense just from the point of attack as a perimeter guy. You're gonna
get mad because he will invariably not take enough threes. It is mister Alex
had to do it. That's a great pick. I couldn't take him because
I need someone who could score. Uh yeah, good, that's the correct
pick. I feel like nine point four million dollars. God, he's gonna
get the bulls a first round or at least all right, so, uh,
the hunt for shooting begins in a serious way now here. Oh okay,
let's see. I think I gotta go do it. I think I'm
gonna go Grant Williams twelve point four million. Okay, you can just hang
out in the corner and and he can guard fours or fives. He's a
little deplicative really with Gordon, but I think I gotta do that. I
think I gotta take Grant Williams. He's making and this is on his new
contract, by the way, which is why it's just even more wild.
What is he at twelve about twelve point four as nine point one of the
salary gap, which is absolutely ridiculous. I still have I'm like, I'm
having some real problems here. I'm not gonna lie about who to take next.
I just want to keep loading up on really good players. But I
don't know if they like necessarily fit my team. Now I have, you
know what, I just have to take this person because he's he's still on
the board, and I'm actually kind of shocked you, just especially with the
way that you're building out your team, that you didn't take him. I'm
gonna go with Herb Jones, just like, oh, would you say?
Sorry? No, I was gonna say, like, that's who I was
sort of thinking of when I was like, oh, should I just get
another ridiculous defender next to Brunson. But yeah, that's a good pick for
you because you've got enough scoring to handle him. Yeah. I mean,
like, look, he's done some on ballwark this year, and so I'm
just saying that Herb Jones might win, might be our point guard at stretches,
pace the floor around him and have him have him run some some picking
rolls. So we'll do that, all right. I think I need to
go. I still I'm in the hunt for shooting. I gotta go Austin
Reeves because now that he's a reserve again, which is what he'll play for
my team, I think I think I can trust that sixty plus true shooting
percentage as long as he's coming off the bench, so fun. Note this
is the first one, so I'll give myself a little bit pat on the
back. And I thought about adding him while I was making the oh am
I getting screwed because of the poison pill for this year or the it's not
he's not poison pill. Not poison pill. You know what I mean though?
Right? Is he is his first year salary like ridiculous. It's no,
his first year salary's not ridiculous. I just don't have his number pullup
because I didn't include him on my list. So what is what is he
making? I think he's making twelve Yeah, I mean like that's very low
percentage of the salary cap. So I guess I didn't because when I initially
made my list, I added some players before we went on today he was
playing so poorly, and I was kind of like, Okay, is he
is he actually underpaid anymore? So now now I need to get his his
salary. Yeah, well, twelve million this year, which is eight point
eight percent of the cap. Yeah, a point a three. I mean
I would still say he's underpaid, especially the way that he's been playing so
like lately, coming off the bench, so I think that's fair, even
though I did not have them all right, So I think I need to
go with someone who's gonna create for me. I'm very tempted to just go
with like sort of another Gluish type guy, but I'm going to take do
I do it? Has he? I guess my one question is has he
been good enough this year for me to do it? And because he's not
been hitting his threes, I'm gonna do it anyway? Am I gonna do
it anyway? I don't know what to do here. I was thinking Tias
Jones is the name I'm thinking of. Okay, I'm not on my list.
I don't know if that's a good or bad thing for how smart.
I'm actually thinking about Molique Monk as well, Like do I trust him to?
No? You know what, let's do this. We're gonna keep keeping
theme of I'm just punting on primary playmaking, but this this person does play
a primary playmaking spot. I'm gonna go with Devon Carter like it. Four
point five to five percent of the salary cap will just shoot a trillion percent
from three again, more defense, just not enough creation. I need to
my creators right now? Are who's my My best creator is Michael Bridges,
who's my second best creator on this team. I mean, I guess it's
is it like it creating his own shot? Is it marking in? Well?
I meant like for others? Is it probably Carter? Which is the
problem. You're a little short in that category. But yeah, I'm gonna
stick with it. Hashtag no regrets, all right. I am gonna take
someone who I have already said several times should be the quintessential example of a
player who fits on literally any team. Actually you have that guy, because
that's KCP. But I'm gonna take the Anthony Melton, who makes eight million
this year, can get you the percentage of the cap on that I have
it, it's five point eight eight percent. Austin Reeves is the only player
you selected that I didn't have on my list. So that's either good or
bad depending on how we hard to say. Uh, five point eight percent
of the salary cap, that's just absolutely that's absolutely wild Ford Anthony Melton,
I'm actually wondering I kind of want to take He's a relatively expensive player,
but he's still so I limited. My I know you didn't necessarily do it
this way, I limited my selections to players who are making under twenty percent
of the salary cap, and like that was my reasoning to go with,
like who's underpaid? He just he doesn't address like my most glaring need,
which is the creation for others at this point. But I might do it
anyway, or I'm curious as to whether you think I'm going to take him
just because I want to know if you believe he's actually underpaid. Jared Jackson
Junior that three percent of the salary cap, so just a hair under twenty
percent, I think. I mean, you could argue that's the best pick
of the drafts, certainly where you got him. But because I just was
looking at his number and I was like, ah, is that If this
was like two weeks ago or three weeks ago, I probably would have taken
him like right after Bruntson or maybe before him. But then it's like,
oh, he's not playing. Well, No, that's I mean, like,
is he the best player on here? Like that? We maybe he's
close to it. I guess Bridges probably the best player, but I mean
Larry Markden has his own case for that too. Yeah, I mean your
team, Yeah, if as long as you don't catch a bunch of heat
for taking a guy making twenty seven, which you shouldn't because I took in
at twenty six. Yeah, but and that's comparable. Brunton was nineteen point
four percent. He's about nineteen point nine percent, So it's close. But
you I have two players making over fifteen percent of Oh, we both have
two players making over fifteen percent of them? What do I have, Gordon
to make twenty something million? Yeah, so we have two players each that
make over, uh, fifteen percent the salary cap. Be interesting to see
who ends up like using less money overall. So we have we have four
picks left each. All right, Uh, I think I'm a little thin,
So I'm gonna go Mitchell Robinson, who's making fifteen six which is comfortably
on what about like twelve ten to twelve percent of the cap? Mitchell Robinson
is making eleven point five percent of the salary cap. Do you remember when
he first signed his deal, And maybe we didn't know at the time that
it was de escalating, but I'm sure even after the fact, we were
just like, why would you pay that much for a center who's so limited
on an offense? And now he was just drafted as one of the best
contracts underpaid. Yeah, the most underpaid players in the league. How that
for you know, life? How that for life coming at you fast?
Yeah? I mean it was apparent like almost immediately last year that that was
a good that was a good contract. And at the corollary was that Isaiah
Hartenstein's contract, which we were both crowing over what a bargain that was.
It was just like, fine, it wasn't It wasn't the bargain. It
seemed to be Mitchell Robinson was the bargain. So we talk about how I
don't have self creation or table setting is the way or playmaking for others.
I'm about to get it for the low bargain bin cost of six point eight
percent of the salary cap, I'm taking Kyle Anderson. Yeah, yeah,
that's a good one nine point two million. He's he's cheap and he's man.
He's still working out in Minnesota despite just like they have Nasried and Kat
and Rudy Gobert and I was. I honestly, that was one of the
things I asked Kyle Tykey about when we were doing the what his lookhead was,
What would his role end up looking like? On this team, and
we had identified him as a trade candidate just because of his contract situation.
I was just like, no, Kyle Anderson is just going to keep doing
Kyle Anderson things. Now. I'm torn a little bit here because I got
my backup center. I don't know that I have. I guess Derek White's
kind of my backup point guard I maybe could use. I think I need
a wing here. I think I need another wing. So I'm gonna go,
oh man, he's not playing that well. I was gonna say Finny
Smith, but like he's not. He's not having that great. He'll played
well enough on offense, right, yeah, but his defense I think has
has slipped a little. Okay, I think I'm gonna yeah, I gotta
take Malik Monk, oh million. I just I just want some I want
some shooting and a spark plug in case Austin Reeves is actually not good for
my hypothetical made up underpaid team. Malik Monk is making seven point three percent
of the salary gap that deals a freaking highway robbery for Sacramento and his look.
He has great chemistry with the bonus obviously, but just his decision making
on drive since he's been in Sacramento has been a infinite pluses. Yeah,
I mean they they trust him. I mean he still gets a little wild.
That's just part that's like that's as much a feature as a bug,
because he just is capable of any kind of shot. But like they trust
him to run pick and rolls that you know, he's he's a can get
a three off against anybody. He can't go left. But the league doesn't
seem to know that. Uh yeah, I'll take him as my what my
my ninth guy. Tenth guy don't work, that is your ninth guy because
you have two. I'm just laughing at how I made this eleven picks.
I mean we could we could take the bonus. We could take a bonus
guy we got. Yeah, we'll do a bonus one, all right,
So let's throw monk up there. This is getting harder and harder for me
to decide. There are like many guys that I just want to take because
I feel like I should take them. Caleb Martin's not had a good start
to the year. I'm just taking this guy because the number is so low
that the value and just his connective tissue on a team that apparently is I
mean, to be fair, there was one primary table setter basically on the
board. There's another one. I'm just not sure that I want to want
to take him just yet. I'm gonna go with Kenrich Williams four point five
percent of the salary cap? How about? How about that for a bargain?
He was not on my board, and that's inexcusable? Was he He
really wasn't? Wow? Yeah, I just at reeves though. So all
right, so is this my last pick or we get No, we're gonna
do a bonus one? Well, you have to you have three then,
so oh no, Well let's just do two more here because it's getting a
little thin. Twelve, So we have two. I did include twelve.
I just miscounted the I just miscounted. So I am not as big of
an idiot as I thought. But I'm an idiot for not noticing sooner than
I did include twelve players. So all right, I think I'm gonna go
let's see. Yeah, I think I'm gonna do it because he can play
every position and he's untradeable because he's so good. I think I'm gonna take
Terrence Man. Uh ten point six million? Did you say Terrence Man can
play every position, Yeah, every including including center, all of them.
That's what the nimbers think. I mean, that's a choice. It's the
uh do you? Yeah, I can't take it. Look, if it's
any consolation, he would be the best point guard on There's a better there's
a better value on his own team that I have in bold, that I've
passed over for this entire draft. There's a wait on his own team.
Yeah. Who am I not forgetting about? Who am not thinking of them?
I mean, I'll undo Terrence Man and take this other guy if you'll
let me, right now. Uh, that's why I don't. I don't
want to let you because I don't have his headshop. But yeah, you
can undo it if you want. No, No, because you should take
the guy I'm talking about. So I'm gonna I'm gonna just keep Terrence Man.
Is it a point cord? Yeah, it's not Russ. Yeah,
it is three point eight million. You need that guy. Look at he's
at a minimum. I said, no minimum, guys, Oh that's right.
It was such a high number. I didn't even think it was a
minimum. You're right, I'll let you take it for like eight million years
and also I don't even know, but I mean the contract. Yeah,
for the value, sure, but let's not go let's not go wild here.
I mean, you can bring him off the bench now. He's cool
with that. So that's a that's a value add So I'm gonna go this
route. And I'm I think some people might believe, I mean this season
because he's not an extension. He's I think he would certainly be underpaid this
season. I'm gonna go with de Jontay Murray. He's at seventeen point seven
and that's thirteen point four percent of the salary cap. I should probably bump
him into my starting lineup for Alex Paerson. He's got to start for you
for sure. So your team just got a total has just totally been remade
now because you can go Murray, CACP Bridges marking in Carter. That's pretty
nasty. That's a good that's so yeah. I made a starting lineup change
in the eleventh pick of a twelve person draft. Well, and I mean,
you could probably start Jaron Jackson over Wynde Carter if we're gonna get all
the way down to it. Uh oh uh, you know what I care
about rebounding moment. What I've always said about you, you care about rebuinding.
Okay, so this is my last pick. I don't I'm not in
love with anybody here, but I think, how many centers do I have?
Two? I guess three if you count Grant Williams is a small ball.
I really want to take GP two just because I don't have a warrior
yet. That's really the end of that. So your team is good as
weird saying no, we already discussed on another pot. How GP two is
positive and plus minus or better than Steph even better? He's you heard it
here. GP two is better than Steph Curry. I will go with I
just got I'm just gonna do it because you can never have too many of
them. I'm gonna take Dorian Phinney Smith my last pick, thirteen point four
million. What's his shooting this year? Uh? He's he wasn't like thirty
eight percent? I thought, Oh, he's shooting four forty four from three.
What a steal? Hey, you were the one that said he wasn't
playing well enough to take him before. I think his defense has slipped.
But he's averaging double figures five and a half boards. He can see he's
only he's thirty. He's not done yet. Well, no, he's not
done by any stretch. I'm making changes to my team. More so,
let me get Dorianfinny Smith up for you. He's also shooting, well,
he was shooting last time. I checked over fifty percent on a higher volume
of drives per game, and so you have if you had any spacing on
your team, you'd be able to of that. I did. I guess
I don't hate the spacing on your team. I look like you did.
Get monk Man is fine there. Mitchell Robinson's obviously a floor spacer. The
Gordon Claxton four or five, while it has its bonuses, is not going
to space the floor very well. I mean you're front court defensively though,
I mean just before man combination around Brunton defensively where you have I guess it
would help if I refreshed you putting Dorriyan Fannie Smith on your board so everyone
can see where your full team looks like, your your full collection of players.
Uh you can. That's some nasty defense at the starting I should I
should have taken GP two to start him instead of Brunson. If I would
just want five menacing defenders on the floor at the same time. But I
didn't do that, So you took Dorrian Phonny Smith is barely ten percent of
the salary cap, by the way, ten point two percent. That's sort
of wild. I don't know who to take with my last pick. There's
too many like good options here. You took Dorianfinny Smith. I don't need
to take Tyas or Trey Jones, both of whom were on my list.
I don't want to leave, but I just feel like, how many bigs
do I have? I got Wendell, I'd moved Jaron Jackson Junior into my
starting five next to Larry Markinen, Like can I fit this guy? Am?
I just do have enough wings on this roster? Kenrich Williams, I
know I want. I can't believe. I'm like mad that nas Reed is
just sitting on the board, and so I feel like I should take him.
But let me just see if there's anyone else that I want. You're
gonna leave Draymond Green in his twenty two million dollar salary just he did not
make my list. I'm thinking about matist Thaibel right now. Seven point seven
percent. Do I just say fuck? It. I'm gonna say fuck it.
Naz Reid fits everywhere, So NOAs Reid fits on fits on my team,
So let me throw him up there. Then we'll do the caculations.
Do you want to recap your team? Vamp a little bit on who major
for the people who are listening at home. Yeah, all right, So
I don't remember the order they went in, but right now, my starting
five is gonna be Jalen Brunson, Derek White, og An Andobi, Aaron
Gordon and Nick Claxton coming off the bench. Probably the first guy off the
bench. First two off the bench will be Austin Reeves and Grant Williams.
We got d' Anthony Melton. We got Mitchell Robinson for offensive boards as a
backup five. We got Malik monk to he might be another six man type.
And Terrence Man hate that pick, still shouldn't have done that, and
and Finny Smith rounded out the draft. You want me to do yours?
Or are you ready to speak? Uh? I No, I can do
mine, so I believe, yeah, all of them should be up there.
I have. My starting life is de Jonte Murray Contavious called well,
Pope McHale Bridges Lowry Market and Jaron Jackson Junior. Then I have coming off
the bench, Herb Jones, Davon Carter, Wendell Carter Junior, Kyle Anderson,
Alx Caruso, Kendrick Williams, and Nas Nas Reed just because I could.
Essentially, I just feel like he shouldn't have lasted that long. Shame,
shame. So let's see whose team technically earns a larger percentage of the
salary cap. So your team makes one hundred and thirty point seven percent of
the salary cap. So I'm am I on the second apron, I feel
like I'm in trouble. Mine makes one hundred and twenty three point five percent.
Oh, your team is Yeah, just looking at your starting five,
I think you got me here. Your your starting five is really good and
it's cheaper altogether. So for anyone who's now watching at home or listening,
let us know who you think has the better team. Dan's all underpaid team
or Grants all all underpaid team. We would uh, we would always appreciate
that. So we can now get to our regular scheduled what would we what
would we call it? Just stat padding? Oh wait, I need to
play the Yeah, listen, I'm doing. I'm not gonna lie this is
I know I can multitask. We've pointed this out before. I'm doing,
so it's stat and padding. Well, I get a set back up on
the screen. Do you wanna do you want to kick us off with things?
Oh, we're all set up on the screen. We're good to go.
Yeah, I got one for you. All right, it's a simple.
You have a fifty chance for each of these. I would like Dan
for you to tell me who had his shot blocked most last season. Joel
Embiid or Jalen Green jail and Green. That's correct, Jalen Green had his
shop blocked more than any other human being that played in the NBA last year.
That's a fun facts three rockets. Yeah, you're one for one.
R J Barrett near and dear to your heart or SGA who had a shop
blocked more. I'm gonna say just because he gets to the basket so much,
Shay Gilgers, Alexander, your process is impeccable. You are corrected?
Is Sga? Jaden Ivy or Trey Young j and Ivy correct? Can't block
a floater giannis Onnotakumpo or Jordan Poole I mean, I feel like I should
go with Giannis. I'm gonna say Jordan Poole, though you should have gone
with your gut, Dan. It is Giannis. He had his shop blocked
more than Jordan Poole last year. That makes sense because he's had the basket
so often. I should have went with Anthony Davis or Fred Van vliet H.
I'm gonna say Anthony Davis because Fred Vanfleet never gets in the basket.
You are correct, it is Anthony Davis. Good job. Four out of
five I think by you, and I was trying to deliberately tricky on at
least three of them. Do you want to go Why don't we go through
all yours? Then we can go through all mine? All right? Dan,
Again, this is a stat from last year. I would like you
to rank these players in the order of most offensive fouls committed last year,
Demanta, Sabonis, Zach Collins, Rudy Gobert, and Jannis. Rank them
in order of who so Zach Collins, Rudy Gobert, Jannis and Sabonis Sabonis.
I'm gonna say Zach Collins is four. That's incorrect, He's three,
okay, so Zach Collins three, Rudy Gobert is four. Rudy Gobert is
four, okay, Zach Collins is three, Jannis and Sibonis. I'm gonna
say Sabonis at two, Yanis at one. Correct. Giannis had the most
offensive fouls of this group, then Sabonis, then Zach Collins, then Rudy
Gobiert. That was way too hard, And I now don't feel bad about
one of the questions. I'm gonna give you because great just invited a misery
on myself. Okay, word association time real quick, you're ready, Dan,
This is this takes all your all your brain cells. Rafer Alston and
one that's good, Al Harrington Weed. I always remember him from on the
left baseline. He would upfake on a three that he would never take and
drive for a baseline dunk like once every two weeks when he was on the
Warriors. That's that's why. Which team do you associate with him most?
Probably Indiana? I think it's Indiana? Or why is Denver the one that
pops into my mind so much? For him? I don't know you there
for a minute, I'm gonna look at that. I don't He was on
the Knicks too, right, yeah, which you would think me it would
be al Harry. And he was there for a couple well, maybe like
a season and a half he was in He was in Denver for sixty four
games, And I'm like, all right, so does it hold on?
Does it go Indiana first, then Golden State, then Denver. Let's see.
So the career games, he played three hundred and ninety games for Indiana,
one hundred and forty two for Atlanta. I forgot one hundred and forty
for the Knicks, one thirty seven for Denver, one eight for the Warriors,
thirty four for the Wizards, and ten for the Magic. I do
not remember the Magic era of window car of I don't remember him on the
Wizards. I remember him in the Magic, all right. Moving on with
word association. Kemba Walker Uh oh my god, mid range game winner that's
mine too for the Yukon right like that. It is weird that that's the
first thing I think of with him. Is the greatest game winning step back
probably ever before a step back was a thing. Really, that was a
long time ago. Uh, dirtiest play you can remember. Oh, I'm
not gonna include Malice at the Palace. Okay, So I'm gonna say,
oh, man, I don't in the one where like Jack dunked and his
balls or just in like Chris Dovey's face that I mean, I don't.
I don't know if that's a dirty play, but there's no wrong answers in
words. I guess the actual dirtiest one would be I'm trying to think of
that was it who did rod our test? Just like elbow across the jaw?
Was that James harden to know? Okay, yeah, there was a
hard and elbow. That's a big one. The one that came to mind
for me was Andrew Bynham taking JJ Burrey out of the air in that playoff
game. And then you could go back to like the Kermit Washington punch.
Have you ever seen video of that? I don't even remember what year it
was. I think I think I have. Also, I hope I'm not
reversing that. I don't think I'm I think j Brown when he was with
the Heat had like Charlie Ward or Chris childs upside down by body slam.
Yeah, yeah, that it's so funny. I don't remember if it was
Child's reward either, Apparently there was. I feel like there was a rumor
that Chris Childs could really fight. Like you did not want to mess with
Chris Childs even though he was I could see it, and you also.
I think it was from that same fight. The image of Jeff Van gandhis
clinging to I think it's like a Lonzo Morning's letter or something that was funny,
off topic. But that's the point of this. Have you you must
have seen the video of its I think it might be practice at Maryland when
he was in college, when Steve Blake and a teammate. I think like
square up and Steve Blake turns into like like Oscar de la Hoya is just
like like his hands are up. He is so ready to just to and
I think he lands a couple of shots that's out there somewhere. It's probably
in like standard definition because it's so old. But I've always think of that
when I think of basketball fights. All right, Uh, impact full mid
season trade? Oh why am I? There's too many to choose from?
And now my mind is just like spinning the wheels at the moment. Impactful
mid season trade. I don't even, I don't even, I don't freaking
know. I'm like I'm at the point where my brain is just fro.
That's kind of the also the point of word association. How about the first
one? I thought it was Rashid Wallace to Boston because like kind of one
or no, uh sorry to Detroit kind of like kind of won him a
championship or help. I just remember thinking this is too recent, but the
James Harden trade when that went down, I kind of just remember thinking at
the time that there was the ball dominated there too. It just it felt
like it was over. Yeah. Yeah, Clyde Drexler to the Rockets in
their second championship of the whatever it was ninety four and ninety five. That
was a big one. Yeah, it was really she that. I just
I just had a Rashid Wallace thought while I was coming up with this,
and that's right. I remember thinking the Mellow trade was gonna be one of
the most impactful ones of all time and in a way to New York in
a way, and it was, well, there's a lot of those where
you go the other way, like you could say, like the Vucevich trade
for Chicago was pretty impactful because it triggered the situation there in now. Yeah,
it's interesting because trades need time to marinate where you need to deal with
the follow like the Magic Benefited. Think about what came out of the woods
trade for them, right right? I mean that's hugely set it set them
up like you don't have you don't have Wagner like the other one too,
because I remember like wondering whether it was the right move at the time.
Was the Marc Gasol to Toronto? Oh he ever won the title? Yeah?
Yeah, that's a good one. All right. I have that's it
for word association, mercifully for you. I have three blocks, So why
don't we before we go back to I have three blocks of word association for
you? Oh boy, okay, are you ready? Yep? Okay?
First block of five overrated Madonna? Overrated? Uh? Why is this so
hard? This is not a good sign that I can't think of someone that
I think zach Lavine. How about that it's on my underrated? Uh Gary
Payton? The second Isaiah Joe is the only correct answer. People forget he
was a bucket ooh uh, this is a great one. TJ. Warren
Ooh he was a bucket man for like a solid two years. I would
say he was a bucket hustle uh, Alex Cruso maniacally intelligent. Ooh,
maniacally intelligent. Okay, I mean I think that's probably Chris Paul just because
nobody is more manipulative of the rules than he is and he knows what he's
doing, so I gotta go there. I think that's right answer. Next
block of five, Swish, Derk Noovisky, fast, Darren Fox, lob
lob Blake, Griffin in and out, dribble. Oh, Jordan Poole.
I just watched the highlight of him do that earlier today. Skip pass,
skip Lebron. Final block of five. Underpaid you should this should be fresh
in my mind? How about Russell Westbrook throwing a bone? Can you think
of someone what about sorry sorry to derail, but like who's like historically underpaid?
Like who never I'm trying to think of guys that were always like hugely
valuable that never got like never got maxed or whatever the equivalent would have been
that like won a bunch I think you could go like, I don't know
why Tony Parker comes to mind, but like if you're the point guard for
a bunch of title winners and I don't I don't know what he ever made,
but it was never you know, he was never like I don't think
do you know who actually comes to mind for that for me? Who Kevon
Looney? Well, yeah, for sure, Yet we did not draft him
in our all underpaid draft. He was on my list, but yeah,
we didn't draft him. He was on my list too. Okay, continue
trade demand Dwight Howard remember that saga, Yeah, where he wasn't times.
Yeah, well then and the enduring image of that whole deal that was like
kind of pretty close to when I know we were both at Bleacher Report by
then, but I mean, what was what year was that, like,
twenty twelve, twenty eleven, it was twenty I think it was twenty two.
I think it was twenty eleven and twenty twelve, And just that press
conference with stan Van Gundy drinking the diet pets, That's exactly what I was
gonna say, so awkward, Oh my god. I mean we've seen you
know that, and that was I feel like at the time that felt like
such a big deal, and now it happens twice a year where it's like
a superstar has asked out or it's close enough and then denies it or that's
kind of like a tone down version of that's happening with Levigne right now.
It feels like, okay, so the third one flight risk, flight risk,
anyone who's a free agent for the Raptors. Let's move on. Yeah,
og Anobi, Pascal Siakam, Gary, Trent Junior, all of the
Raptors. That's the that's the correct answer. I'll steal that from you.
I'm surprised you didn't go James Harden for trade demand though, like this era
of basketball fans, that's he's gonna just be the answer to everyone, right,
yeah? Uh so, two more on this one. Clutch Rich Paul
sorry choke Ooh, Draymond Green throwing the ball out of bounds against the Kings
up one with like thirty seconds left last night. Oh this when this airs,
it won't be last night. But everyone's gonna remember God recency bias is
heavy on that one. Huh. Just you know it's that's the words I
associated happened are related to recent things? Do you have any more? I
don't have any more word associations, but I have a couple other quick ones
for you. Sure, all right, so one of these players does not
belong You're gonna have to tell me who it is and why, Richard Jefferson,
Channing Fry, James Harden, Mike Bibby, Channing Frye, Richard Jefferson,
Mike Bibby, and James Harden. Okay, so James Harden has I'm
gonna say, Mike Bibby, I'm gonna say Channing Fry because he never played
for the Clippers. Oh wow, interesting, that is not I don't know
if that's did Richard Jefferson. Richard Jefferson played for the Clippers, now that
I think about it, But no, I don't. I don't. I
don't think so. No, if that's that's right, You've just I'm different.
All right? So you want me to tell you or you want to
take another crack at it? Why are all those? Is it? What
if I told you James Harden doesn't belong? Oh all right, So Richard
Jefferson, Mike Bibby and No, I got nothing, Jefferson. This is
kind of unfair. Also, James Horns they only active player that I would
have said, you know what, You're right, Jefferson, Fry and Bibby
went to Arizona, Harden went to Arizona State. Oh god, I never
would have. If anyone got that, I hate you people in discord,
please tell Dan that somebody please have gotten that. Okay, what else do
I have? All right? Another who doesn't belong? This is the one
I referenced in a previous pod sort of. Uh so we have Mike Dunleavy
Jr. JB. Bickerstaff, Mike Malone, Steven Silas, and Ryan Saunders
who does not belong Ryan Saunders, Steven Silas, Michael Malone, JB.
Bickerstaff, and Mike Dunleavy Jr. Mike Dunleavy Jr. I'm gonna say,
can you read them again? There's too many? Yeah? Sorry, So
there dun Levy, JB. Bickerstaff, Michael Malone, Steven Silas, Ryan
Saunders. I'm gonna say, uh, oh my god, what you said?
The name Michael Malone because his dad neither coach nor played in the NBA.
No, his dad did, coach, Brendan Malone was an NBA coach.
Not about that. I got nothing hit me. So dun Levy's the
only they all have NBA dad coaches. Dun Levy is the only one to
not also be a head coach in the NBA. Because you got dad I
should have gotten. Yeah, Okay, it's really hard when you're on the
other side of it and you're just having names read to you and you can't
look at them that I don't tell me because Mike Dunleavy coached, right,
and I have it so yeah, so that everybody has an NBA coach dad
on this list, but Dunleavy is the only one who was also not a
coach. All right, now, we really do not feel bad about the
one I was felt bad about giving you. Now, all right, I
have two more. This one. You just have to tell me what these
people have in common. There's okay, Jamiir Nelson, j J Riddick,
Dwight Howard, Rishard Lewis, Hiito Turkleu. They all played for the Magic
Well year, No, you're right, O eight oh nine Magic who made
the finals? Okay, last one? What are these guys have in common?
Kevin Durant, Marvin Bagley, James Wiseman, Brandon Miller. Oh my
god, Kevin Durant, Brandon Miller, Marvin Bagley, James Wiseman. They
were all number two picks. Excellent job, that is correct. They were
all number two picks. I wasn't even that's a trick. I like it
came to me and the one that I got tripped up on was actually durant.
Believe it or not. Yeah, because because you have to think,
wait, who is ahead of him? Are you? Have you emptied the
clip? I've emptied the clip. You better strap in then, because I
got stuff for you. All right? This is it's would you rather?
Adjacent? Is this block of five or six or seven questions? Okay,
would you rather or who's the better player Nicole Jokic with Giannis attend Tokupo's defense
or Joel Embiid with Tyrese Maxey's speed. It's gotta be oh man, there's
there's no wrong answer. I'm gonna say Jokic with Gianni's defense. Uh,
because I feel like if Joel Embiid had Tyrese Maxey's speed, he would just
like run through the basket standard twice a game or knock it over at least
they We'd spend hours every game with guys on the ladder trying to readjust the
rim and fix it. That. That's what interesting to see kind of Yanis's
defense happening in slow motion with Jokic. Yeah, does that mean he would
move like Gis or he's just like he's just like being in the right spot.
Oh yeah, thing either way, who's the best? Who's the better
player? Chet Holmgrin with Lebron's strength or Victor wembin Yama with Kyrie Irving's handle?
Oh my god, uh, Wemby with Kyrie's handle? Like, honestly,
I think it's Chet with Lebron's strength. Well, hold on, if
Wemby could get to literally any spot he wanted to, how do you defend
He's still got to put the ball in the hole from the perimeter. I
think he gets right to the front of the rim with lebron strength, can't
get to anywhere on the floor. That's true. Well, you would go
in a straight line and then everyone would fall off of him. I guess
pretty good players either way. Uh, who would be the better player?
Cad Cunningham with the Boston Celtics Boston Celtics' is spacing or Jalen Brown on the
current Detroit Pistons team. I mean it has to be kid, just because
it has to be I don't think Jalen Brown is any better if he's on
Detroit. I think is he might score thirty a game, but he's not
gonna do it efficiently. Okay, Oh man, I actually love these Who's
the better player, Luka Doncics with Anthony Edwards's defense or Anthony Edwards with Luka
Doncic's vision. I think it's probably it's gotta be Luca because if it's just
Anthony Edwards with Luca's vision, he's still not as good. I think he's
probably still not as good of an offensive player. And then if yeah,
I think it's Luca with some defense, I think I think that's what I
gotta say. Okay, your life's on the line. Life's on the line
here. Which players teams have the higher winning percentage in an elimination Gamejimmy Butler,
James Harden, Damian Lillard or Russell Westbrook. I mean, there's such
an obvious answer here, and I know it's bait. Cue the Tom Hardy
meme. When you cut this up, I'm gonna say, Jimmy Butler,
that is incorrect. He actually has his teams have the lowest winning percentage on
elimination games thirty one point one percent. James Hardens the correct answer at thirty
nine point one percent. So all this stuff about Harden being a playoff choker
is just is fake news then, is what you're telling me? Okay,
championship on the line. Would you rather rely on Trey Young to get a
one on one defensive stop or Jalen Brown dribbling and scoring through a triple team
with his left hand? I am gonna say Trey Young because he might get
in the way and get knocked over and then he might get a charge.
Jalen Brown's not going anywhere lefty? Can I say? I got excited for
a second when you started saying Trey Young is like, Oh, I'll take
Trey Young trying to get a bucket any day. And then of course that's
not how this game works. Trey Young has to get a stop. Okay,
So this one might be my favorite. Would you rather have a version
of John Morant who thinks he's Ben Simmons on defense or a version of Ben
Simmons who thinks he's Jahn Morant on offense? I would one hundred prefer to
see Ben Simmons who thinks he's Ja Morant on offense because I would just love
to see what would happen, like, what would that look like? I'm
it's like a pure curiosity perspective. Does that mean he's trying to dunk on
guys from like outside the missing a lot of them? Yeah? Line,
Yeah, at least he's being aggressive, right, Isn't that the knock on
Ben Simmons. At least we get aggressive Ben Simmons. I think the problem
with this theory is, though, and if I ever cut this up with
I'll never include this is does Ben Simmons does he retain He's going to retain
his skill set? And so it's like him going up for dunks or even
threes, Like, what does that actually do aside from increase the number of
misses his team has? That's why I have to see it. I think
that's the answer to out of pure curiosity. But I would argue that the
Jahn Morant who thinks he's Ben Simmons on defense might be the better player.
He might he might be the MVP if like, if you that's that's that's
better. But I don't know if that's more interesting. Okay, who is
the most random active NBA player, non star, non household name that you
love watching? Oh? Wow, uh, non star, non household name
that I love watching? That? Like, what's the stant can he be
a starter? Does it have to be like really, buddy, just just
random casual fan might not know who they are, or is it watching them
a ton your siren song, so to speak. I well, I don't
know if this is the my if I had time to think about it,
if I'd say this, but Jason Onamas who do not have time to think
not thinking about it, Jayshaun Tate comes to mind because one, he plays
incredibly hard. He's a weird player, He's super aggressive, and he's also
like he's like gets the most out of out of his abilities just by like
always always being the guy that's trying the hardest, and so that's like always
fun to see. And he's just kind of like a bowling ball too that
that's fun that That's the first one that comes to mind. Do you have
one, because I'd like to think about it. The way I did this
is after I wrote it, I jotted down the first name to try and
make it. It's obviously different because this was floating around my head. Yeah,
put it on paper. Isaiah Joe. Yeah, just like flying around
the court, but on defense too, like and even on offense, he'll
set screens when he's not shooting and he'll try and move really quickly with the
ball. But then on defense, like I wouldn't say he's a great defender,
but like he works his butt off and it's it's not the empty calory.
He's hustle that you see where it's like, oh he he got the
speirit but has no idea what he's doing. He's just he's such a work
horse and defending him must be exhausting because I get tired watching him. Yeah,
like my heart rate elevates. That's a good one. And I know
we've talked a lot about Isaiah Joe in the last couple episodes. Also Gary
Payton the second that's another one for me, Like he might be not a
household name, but like he's guaranteed to get a deflection or like a sneaky
steal or like a baseline cut for a dunk, or he'll block Wembin Yama
or he got who did he get? He got somebody else? God damn
it, who was it? He's always good for like a block on a
taller player that he's he's he's a six three power forward that like just doesn't
know he's six' three. That that's one for me and I can't quit.
I this is how much we're in our basketball s is Peyton Watson was
another name, but I thought that was two household. Ye I don't you
never it doesn't always the end game or the end destination isn't always great,
But you also never know where the end DestinE nation is headed. When watching
him offense, defense, on the ball, off the ball, he's like
the equivalent of the human X explanation point even when you're down by twenty Yeah,
and it just doesn't make sense. Gosh, we could do a whole
episode on this, just thinking of guys that we should do. So one
if anyone's actually watched or listened this far, let us know, YouTube comments,
Discord, wherever. Who is the player you can't quit, just can't
quit watching, love to watch that's not you know, sort of he could
be the sixth best player on it, Like I think Joe might be the
fifth best player on the Thunder this season, So he could be that good.
But they're not how they're not j Dubbed, they're not Shay, they're
not Chet Holmgren. Just someone who like in that vein. Let us know
and we can maybe even do some missions where we'll throw it to our Discord
members. I could throw it on Twitter too, or maybe we could do
an episode and respond. But like, who's your favorite player to watch?
That's not a household name. Yeah, that's a great question. That's we
really could do an episode on that. That's a good one. So the
rest of this, and but I have a bunch. So you might think
that we're close to the end because these are quick, But I have a
fifty point scoring theme and I framed it in a bunch of different ways.
Okay, so we're gonna start. There are ten either ors here. Who
has more career fifty point games in the playoffs and regular season combined? Oh,
Steph Curry or Alan Iverson. I'm gonna say Alan Iverson that is correct.
Fourteen to thirteen. Kobe Bryant or James Harden. Hmm, Harden had
so many big scoring games in the MVP year. I'm still gonna say Kobe,
that is correct. Twenty six to twenty three, Lebron James or Michael
Jordan. Jordan, it's not even close. Thirty nine to fifteen, Jorge.
I want to see if I could trip you up there with Lebron's longevity.
Kareem Abdul Jabbar or Giannis attenttakumpo Ooh, I think it's gotta be Kareem
four four, ten to eight. Carmelo Anthony or Hakeem a lot m I'm
gonna go mellow five of five, four to two. Kevin Durant or Damian
Lillard Dame correct, seventeen to ten. It's not even close. That's surprising.
Patrick Ewing or Tim Duncan Ewing two to one. That is correct.
Seven of seven. Can you sweep Bernard King or Jerry West Bernard King eight
to seven? You are correct? Ray Allen or Paul Pierce Pierce. That
is incorrect. Ray Allen had too. Paul Pierce had one. Oh.
Charles Barkley or Karl Anthony Towns. Barkley Nope, Karl Anthony Towns two to
one again closing on a downturn. That's okay, So this is gonna be.
We have four of these which NBA player has the most career fifty point
games in the regular season and playoffs. From this group, Jimmy Butler,
Jamal Crawford, Shaquille O'Neal, Dwayne Wade, Shack that is incorrect. Jamal
Crawford has more fifty point games in the regular season in playoffs than all three
of those dudes. Do you have how many? He has? Four?
Everyone else had three? Shack has three fifty point games career in the regular
season and playoffs. Unless I got it wrong, I'll double check that afterwards.
But what did you say? What a bum? Okay? Which NBA
player has the most career fifty point games in the regular season in playoffs?
Devin Booker, Joel Embiid, Kyrie Irving, Jason Tatum. Hmmm, I'm
gonna go Ad and Biid doesn't get the play I'm gonna say Devin Booker.
That is incorrect. Joell Ebid and Devin Booker have five, Jason Tatum has
seven, Kyrie has six. Tatum is correct. Tatum is a good playoff
pick. Which NBA player has the most career fifty point games in the regular
season and playoffs Bradley Beal, Luka, Doncic, Klay Thompson, Russell Westbrook.
Hmm, I'll say who's the first one? Sorry, Bradley Beal,
Luka, Doncic, Clay Thompson, Russell Westbrook. I don't know why I
want to say Bradley Beal feels like a trick. I'll say Russell Westbrook.
That is correct. I thought he has six. Bradley Beal and has five,
and then Doncic and Clay have four. I thought you were just gonna
Clay was the only one. I think that rivals Russ's playoff sample and like
so, I thought that you would get Russell on that one. Okay,
final one of this which NBA player has the most career fifty point games in
the regular season and playoffs? Anthony Davis, Nicole Jokic, Jamal Murray or
Donovan Mitchell. Oh, I feel like it's one of the last two.
I know they had him in the same series. Maybe I'll go I'm gonna
go Jamal Murray. That is incorrect. It's Anthony Davis. He has five,
Nicole Jokic has two, Murray and Mitchell each have three. Hey,
d good for you. I was actually I mean, like the like,
if you told me Ad had five career fifty point games, that's not gonna
be like groundbreaking for me, but that he had more than yo, kitchen
like, I would have picked one of the other three for sure. Let
me just see, Okay, this is kind of fun at age twenty nine,
excuse me, at age thirty nine and twenty days. Jamal Crawford is
the oldest NBA player on record to score at least fifty points. Who is
the second oldest, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Michael Jordan or Karl Malone?
Ooh, did Kobe get fifty in that like shot happy Year? Didn't
he get in the last day? I'm gonna say, coach, shot happy
Year? Are you talking about the last one? When he that game against
the Jazz where he took like forty shots in the season finale. I'll say,
Kobe, I'm not confident that is incorrect. It's Michael Jordan thirty eight
years old, three hundred and fifteen days. Oh, he had a wizard's
fifty oh man, okay, And Kobe was second thirty seven years in two
hundred and thirty four days. Lebron is third thirty seven years, seventy one
days. I tried to trick you with Carl terrible human being Malone thirty four
years, two hundred and forty seven days. He was, but you probably
just knew that just because he's so high up on the scoring list. I
was like Grant's gonna grant my pick up. Those were all tough. Uh
So, now we're gonna do the inverse. At twenty years and fifty two
days old, Brandon Jennings is the youngest NBA player on record to score at
least fifty points. Who is the second youngest? Devin Booker, Alan Iverson,
Lebron James or Trey Young. Ooh, let's see, I think I'm
gonna say Trey. That is incorrect. It is Lebron. He did it
at twenty years old and eighty days twenty years so that would have been his
third second season, third season. Okay, Devin Booker was second. He
was also twenty years old, but one hundred and forty five days into his
into his career when he did it. And we have still have a couple
more. If you thought we were done, I gotta get one of these
eventually. Wilt Chamberlain holds the record for the most fifty point games before his
twenty fifth birthday with fifteen. Which player has the second most, Kareem Abdul
Jabbar, Lebron James, Michael Jordan or Jason Tatum. Ooh, yeah,
Lebron's just sitting there. I think I better go Tatum because he's got so
much runway before his twenty fifth birthday. I'll go Tatum. That is incorrect.
It is Michael Jordan with ten. Tatum was last with six. Kareem
and Lebron each had eight. Okay, now this is the final one,
which I don't feel bad for giving you anymore because of what I've done to
you. Yeah, six active NBA players dropped fifty or more points at least
three times before their twenty fifth birthday. How many of the six can you
name? I will give you three strikes? Ooh, okay, Well,
one of them has to be Lebron based on the previous questions, we've done
one of one, Devin Booker two of two. This is three to fifty
point games before turning twenty five, or by their twenty fifth birthday, before
they're under the age of twenty five. I want to say Trey Young.
That is incorrect. Strike one. All right, Tatum three of six so
far, I'm trying to think of all the other guys we've named. These
are active that have multiple fifties before their twenty five How about John Morant incorrect?
Strike two? Ooh, I like to get at least one more before
I strike out? Who am I obvious? Uh, Kevin Durant, that
is incorrect? Strike three? What then I have no better guesses? So
you got So it's Lebron James had eight, Jason Tatum had six, Luka
Doncic had five, Devin Booker had three, Anthony Davis had three, Jamal
Murray had three. So I needed Murray, Luca and ad. I don't.
I was, MA, I'm actually the fact that you I'm I'm not
impressed because I thought that you should have gotten Doncic. Yeah, I should
have got Luca for sure, and you did, so you got Lebron,
Booker and Tatum. I didn't expect you to get Davis or Murray, to
be honest with you, No, Davis again. Davis has flummoxed me a
couple of times here. I just do not think of him as a fifty
point guy. But clearly that's wrong. And by the way, I just
I double checked the shack thing. It says unless I'm gonna actually link you
in the private chat we have, so you could double check it, because
I don't. I don't know I believe you. It's just I just when
I saw it was three. I was like, ah, but it was
three. I'm unbelievable. I distinctly remember Shaquille O'Neill in the like two thousand
ninety nine, two thousand Fantasy season back when I used to play Fantasy basketball,
just being like a cheat code because he would he would have these monster
nights. But because it was twenty plus years ago, a monster knight was
like twenty eight points, fourteen rebounds, eight assists, which is like Jokic's
averages basically, now, yeah, look at that. All right, you're
you're correct, I believe you. I'm looking This was a lot of fun.
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Like, well, let me come up with something compelling enough. Because ESPN
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I mean like logistically, if you were going to figure out how to do
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trying to so many balls in the air for that one. You hit it
well, you hit it well, you should. You need a signal for
when I need to just vamp for longer, like like twirl your hat around
or something so I can. Ever, it's after one am Eastern time.
Just you need to vamp just now. I know you. This is your
prime productive hours. It's oh my god, it's so late for me.
I should have been asleep over an hour ago. Yeah, this was I
thought we were going to be done and well people aren't going to care because
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