It's just like the old radio show with the addibility to swear a lot from
the mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dodge jee
Bram. It's bilified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.
Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks for telling a friend. That's how
we spread the word about the pirate ship. Oh, a special one today.
We've had a one on one with Jordan. We've done a one on
one with Jamison, and I asked Jackson to come in. But then Jordan
is hanging out that you guys have been together and you're only sixteen months apart,
so I thought it'd be kind of fun. But we would talk a
little bit with you and then find out about the two of you growing up
and shenanigans that went on that maybe I as your father, we're not aware
of. I'm not sure if that's uh, if that even happened, I
don't know. I don't I don't think it did. What I mean,
you don't think if you don't. You guys eventually found out about everything.
So all right, So how have things been going for you? You're down
in Alabama, you are working at a car part place. Yeah, well
I don't know exactly know what it is. They make car parts for Toyota.
Yeah, for Massa Toyota, Massa Toyota. Okay, and then you're
in the warehouse there and you're doing what kind of work. I just stand
on like a machine called a tugger, and I pull car parts around to
a designated parking area until someone pulls them into another designated parking area to take
them to the actual factory. Okay, my entire job is this just just
thumbs, Yeah, doing unless I have to get out and like pull the
racks. So you're driving a forklift and it's not a forklift. It's like,
God, I should have run a picture. But yeah, but do
you ever race them with the other guys when no one's looking? No,
no, not anymore. They took off all the past settings they did.
Yeah, so now our job gets done at half the rate. Yeah,
but are you hourly? Know your salary hourly? So that's all right,
yeah, but it takes longer. Yeah, and then you you before that
job, and then he decided to keep it as kind of a part time
job. You're a waiter. How how is that? What have you learned
from being a waiter. Uh, you think you've learned anything? Did you
learn anything about like people or interactions? Or yes, I learned learned that
some people well just cannot be satisfied no matter how well the service is.
Yeah, give me an example of something that might have happened to you.
One guy. I told you about the guy who tried to fight me?
Right, No, Oh, tell everybody how tall you are. I'm six
seven and this beheam of the guy sits down, and it's a state law
in Alabama that I have to check your idea no matter how old you are.
I think it's a state law here is. Well, I've seen them
do it at Wegman. You worked at Wagman's. Don't they have to do
that to state law everywhere? Yeah, if you sell alcohol, you have
to check right, Okay, all right, Well, I so I checked
this guy. Let's check this guy's I d and he says, I don't
have it with me. And so I crossed the bud light, off my
mit, off my little notepad. He asked, if there's a soft hand
get him. He looks at his wife and display says, so you're not
gonna bring me a beer? I said, it's a state law. Well,
there's nothing I can do. The guy slams his menu down, says,
let's go tell to me to go fuck myself. As I'm walking away,
and he's I turned on and say what in disbelieving He's like, you
yelled at me, boy, you yell like he's a fit. I'm frozen.
It just to out of confusion more than fear. Yeah, because no
one has ever stepped to me like this before. Okay. And then finally
my coworker steps in, like, nope, get out here, crass c
she's calling for a manager and she and the lady picks up there one year
old child and says, we're leaving. We're leaving. That's the worst part
of the whole thing. He did in front of his baby. Yeah,
the baby's too young to remember, but I mean it is a behavior that'll
probably could be done again. Yeah I can again for that that child.
Like you don't get me wrong, I love beer more than anybody, but
I don't need Like if I can't have it, that's like, why didn't
you have your idea with you if you're driving on the road. One guy,
he was an Air Force veteran. He you'll see why I brought that
up. In a second, he he didn't have any thing to drink,
but his wife wanted one, and she didn't have her idea with her.
So he goes out to their truck and brings back a framed picture from their
wedding in nineteen seventy something. He said, dude, I need a What
do you want me to say that you gotta be smart to get in the
Air Force? Did you say that? Damn? I wanted to. They
brought a frame picture in. How do you have that in your truck but
not proofs you can drive it? Yeah? Yeah, that is strange.
And another lady had hers expire in twenty eighteen, and then she I told
her I can't take that expire. So I don't go away like I'm not
the idiot. Yeah, well, I get it, because people don't like
to be told what they can and can't do, especially you know when you're
of age and you you just want to have a drink. And this is
getting ridiculous and silly and and that sort of thing. I can understand.
I mean, right, what are you doing over there? Mom texted me,
I'm also going to apply to a guest to Bucky's stun South. So
yeah, they want to picture of my resume. Okay, Guest station attendants
make like twenty one an hour there? Really? Yeah at BUCkies? At
BUCkies. Yeah. Tell me about being a waiter and you're in the South.
What's the what is the going what do you get paid at? What's
this hourly rate for a waiter in the South? Dick Well? Okay?
Two eight two dollars and forty eight cents? Yes, so really it's a
job that goes on tips. Did you do well? Yeah? I was
actually making more money on average there than the car place. But the car
place has insurance. So yeah, right, so you got the insurance and
you got that, and uh, do you like it? Do you like
these things? I do? I do like the service industry. It's what
I want to retire in too. I just don't like the drug because some
of the girls are they just so much drama in with them, Like they
act like they're still in high school and they're in their mid to late twenties.
What would be a high school to you? What's what does that mean?
What's what's that drama? Bitchy and clicky and you know what you mean?
And then my boyfriend whatever, like yeah, bringing personal work. Yeah,
and then they take sides to like the second hot like they can be
sea words to me all day long. With the second, I stand up
for myself and I'm kind of a dick back then I'm then I'm the bad
guy. Yeah, I'm just I'm over it. That's the worst part is
when like co workers will start having those type of conversations and you they come
at you a little bit and you try and joke back, and then as
soon as you do that, they get offended. It's like, why joke
in the first place. If you can't if you can't take, you can't
take, right, So, uh, talk to me about um. And
I wanted to get the cameras going, so maybe, uh, maybe I'll
pause here for a second. Then well, do you mind if we start
the cameras? Yeah, sure, Yeah, we went over because I know
you want to be of serve, not worth so much in the service instry,
but of service. So I had just introduced you to the police chief
of where we do the show from in Fairport, New York, Matt Barnes,
Chief Matt Barnes, And I think it, I mean, if that's
what you want to do. You know, maybe your plans about that.
We'll find that out in just just a second. Is that all right?
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In my say I am, Jackson said that's probably his favorite song, Skillets
Hero. Yeah, even like that since you were like eleven I have Yeah,
me and Kate were listening to it in DC. Oh really yeah.
Now, Jackson has a very um sense of strong sense of family. You
wanted to go. You went to Ireland, And what was the reason for
the trip to Ireland? At all the countries in the world, why did
you choose Ireland? We got family there, We are strong groups there.
So yeah, so you went to Ireland because we had That's where a lot
of most of my family is from. Like, yeah, probably all of
it. Yeah, I met some of them too. I know you met
some family that's still over there that has a farm. Did they take it
to their pub. They didn't. I think that's where we may have met
them, but I'm not totally sure. Okay, what was that like?
It was? It was like I had three little bit margins all right there
with me. Then mom, Marge is my mom? And why how are
they? I don't know. They had a lot of the same manner reason
they were friendly. They were talking about Marge's grandparents, like what she had,
didn't know what shea murfy yes, like this and that Murphy Murphy's Dolan's
yeah, Dolan, Yeah, that's that was my mom's maiden name. And
then uh and Miller, but that was her mom. But uh, so
what was that trip? Like? It was awesome? I'll never forget if
Papa said it was one of the best trips he's had in a while.
Yeah, well that's because he went with you. Yeah, Jordan would have
been a different story. Oh poor Jordan. But the so what over there?
You get over there? Uh? Did you feel like you sort of
belonged? I didn't know why. I mean, it's a familiarity, Yeah,
the whole thing you did. Yeah, and because I have not banned
to iron, not familiar anymore comfort as comfort Like yeah, you kind of
fit In and now you must have stood out a little bit as to being
one of the taller people on the on the island of Ireland. Yeah,
well there was a lot of tree. There was a lot there, a
lot of a lot of well, not a lot of tall people. More.
I don't know how to say this. I'm just gonna come and see
it. Yeah, a lot of people of color, like more than we
me and Bob expected in Ireland of all places. Well, okay, I
see what you're saying, Like, yeah, because you would think traditionally the
Irish are more like you and I. Yeah. Yeah, but there there
is it is. It's become a place for people around the world. It's
high Dublin's a really international city and they almost come and recruit from other countries
to say, hey, come live here, come work here, and there's
a lot of young people. Does that actually pay people to live there?
Yes, they pay people to move there. I think yeah, a lot
of places can can do that. But I mean, would you consider ever
going to live over there? I definitely would, Yeah, you would consider
that. What would it take? I don't I'm not sure. Just when
I get done everything I want to get done here and then we were there
for like a year or two. Yeah, what are the things you want
to get done here? Because you have plans? Like it's interesting to watch
you because you planned out that trip to Ireland. You wanted to get in
touch and see family. You did this whole thing. Uh. You you
came here, you went to see my sister and then took a train up
to my mom and then from there to here, and you had your money
budgeted all the way, and you knew what you wanted to do, and
you you plan things pretty well. So when you say I have things that
I want to do here, what are those things? Uh? Start my
career in lawn for us? And uh, you know, girls settled down
and I don't maybe take the kids over there for your your kids when you
have kids? Yea yeah, uh well that would be interesting. Uh have
you have you well you have a date, don't even while you're here?
Yeah? Yeah, but no girlfriend down there? No? No, no.
I would say to be you know, have fun as long as you
can just you know, Yeah, wouldn't that be the I don't know if
that's the wiser thing for you? How has life been for you? Uh?
You know, since you've been twenty one. Good. Yeah, good,
Yeah, a lot more individual freedoms. I can go to a lot
of places I couldn't before. Yeah, I fit in. That's always it.
M What about growing up, like when you when you think back to
to growing up, how we're how was it for you? Uh? I
didn't really have a lot of friends that I would go to hang out with.
But I think that's really gotten better now. Yeah, like I know
the social dynamics of Yeah, I think somewhere on my YouTube page there's you
sitting at the end of the driveway strumming a guitar with a with a classic
top hat out. Oh it's so cute. It was so cute. You
were trying to make money as a busker. Yeah, I'm downing in a
residential street in not even like the busiest part of town. Yeah, he's
trying to panhandle in Pittsfurg. Not a great idea, that's one of the
Well was cute you were sitting at the end of the driveway. Yeah.
Not. You didn't know how to play guitar, so you're just struggling thing.
That was me money? Please, But I I I found it.
I found it endearing, and of course I came out and tortured you with
a camera in your face and had video. Can you tell me like,
um, you know, growing up and a lot of times as a parent,
Uh, you you're not your heads somewhere else. Your head is in
your work and getting you, guys to where you need to be and what
you need and that sort of thing. And I guess my question would be
what would be your greatest memory growing up? Do you have a memory that
you sometimes pops into your head and you go, that was really good,
Well, that's that's that's a that's scary. Do you remember any time that
was like just happy for you or what you enjoyed most, or oh,
when we got Bella, when we got Bella the Boxer, Yeah, yeah,
that was probably one of your happiest memories. Yeah, that was that
was cute. And the Christmas picture with you guys was very cute with when
she was a puppy. Yeah, that was maybe one of the saddest days
for me when we had to put Bella down. Bella got cancer and we
had it removed and then they said, really, there's not much more you
can do the other than cut it out and just kind of wait. So
we did that, and then Bella did. We just had to put Bella
down, and you went yeah, and you held Bella as she kind of
crossed over, and I remember looking and watching as you're just hole hugging her
on the floor. And then then you took me outside while mom stay.
Did actually give her the needle? Oh? Okay, I couldn't remember what
that was? Yeah I did, didn't I? Yeah, I'm sure I
was super comforting too. What did I say? I don't remember. Do
you remember? Yeah? I remember? What did I say? You didn't
say anything. You just took me outside. Did I give you a hug
or anything? We just walked around the bonds did I give I didn't give
you a hug or probably? I don't know. Okay, I would like
to think i'd be you know, I just remember seeing I can see it
in my mind, and it was. It was a tough thing. So
the happiest memory Bella probably one of the saddest memories when when Bella left.
You know, George Carlin, who was who wasn't it was a comedian.
I used to say that a pet is just a future tragedy, you know,
That's all. That's all it is, Uh, all right? So
how about you know, like being a little guy, do you have anything?
Do you remember anything there? Playing soccer, running around friends, remember
soccer, trampoline. That's the biggest thing for me. Yeah, thank you?
And uh the Christmas that you fell off the play set. I hit
your head. Story so often you do? All right? Tell it now?
All right? So I so we the summer beforehead, for whatever reason,
tied up a pink construction to string around our jungle gym, and this
Christmas rolls around. I want to get down the slide because I don't know.
I'm seven, I don't have I want to do things. So I
started swinging from it like it's a square support, like it's a square railing.
So I started stringing, swinging from it to cut it so I can
get through to the slide. No part of me at that time thinks to
factory in gravity, so I fall back. I hit my head on support
me. I'm like, damn, this sucks. So I start walking.
I feel something warm and wet dripped down the back of my head. I
put my hand back there to see what it is, and I'm wearing a
black leve I don't know what I'm looking at. I turned around red snow.
I went inside screaming. Next thing I know, Mom's dragging me to
the er. Apparently Pop she took him to She took me to go see
papa because Papa was there and he was an EMT for five years. He
said, yeah, you gotta go to the hospital. Yeah, so Mom
takes me the hospital. I guess every three kid in Western New York Side
have an accident on this seed because the place is packed generally a general I
need no NAC. The anaesthesiologist is nowhere to be found. Some monk.
I was like, like, fuck it, let's just pump pump him into
it. But I'll talk him through it. We got a house full of
people. Well she wait, they were gonna give you hang timeout time out.
Was it anesthesia or some kind of numbing agent? I don't think there
was no there. I think it was anesthesia, she says. The anesthesiologist
wasn't there, so okay, Well they may be the ones to do the
numbing agent either. I don't know, but okay, so talks me through
it, and what do they do? Staple spunchunch kung? How was that?
How do you think it was? There? Still no sull It sucks
yeah. It hurts like crazy. Yeah, and so Mom talks me through
it. We're back. Could you hear it echoing in your head? No,
like you know what I mean, Like you hit your head and it
kind of it's almost like, wow, it's not hollows. I don't No.
I would work for him, but I'm just wondering what the uh yeah,
okay, well that's uh. I do remember the staples. I don't
think I knew there was no numbing agent there. Well, it was no
numbing agent. Then. I do remember you built a um a ramp because
the side of the garage became very low. It was three two and a
half car garage, yes, and the side of it was the roof was
very low, and there was a concrete patio over there, yes, And
so you built a snow ramp up to the roof. And I had left
a ladder out, so you climbed up the ladder. I climbed up the
air conditioning units. And that's how we all used to get up on the
roof when we were kids. We would climb on the unit and pull ourselves
up. And I was really into Calvin and Hobbs, so I was going
to slide off the roof and onto the snow bank with with the sled.
Yes, but the sled got I can instead of myself. So I tried
to set the sled got away from me, and I'm thinking, okay,
she should probably get down the air conditioning unit, but I didn't want to
break it. Okay, so I'd seeing it's not too far, and it
wasn't too far. It was probably up to that what that mirror is now.
Yeah, sure, if I had landed right, probably would have.
But I didn't land right. So I broke my foot in five places.
Well, you broke your toes, and we took you somewhere and they were
fractures, but it's hard to see in the toes and they're very painful.
Also, urgent care is not very good when it comes to like, yeah,
so then we took you somewhere else and that's where it came out fracture.
But you laid in the snow screaming for help for a while, and
if your mother had gone to the launching room, no one would have found.
You know, that makes you feel very unlove. Yes, thanks for
laughing at it, but no, so they said, yeah, he's fine,
So they Urgent Care said I'm fine, So we just sent me on
my way. The thin blue balloons up and turns purple. Mom like,
yeah, you're not fine. We're gonna you are. Doctor says, Yeah,
this thing's broken in five places and he was walking out on it for
five days. If he ever exhibits any discomfort, get here. This kid's
got a pain taller and so like I've never seen. Yeah, So they
gave so, they said it. They gave me a boot, and it
healed up just fine. Yeah, only for a summer to roll around it
and I only almost sever it in swamp. Yeah, and what swamp?
A lollipop farm? Oh god, I remember that too. I remember that.
Oh god, that was what your buddy, Gavrie. Yeah right,
wow, Yeah, there were some. You had a couple of doozies there.
Yeah. They never broken. No, no, and no real injuries
sports wise or anything like that. I mean, Jordan had a lot of
concussions, but you didn't. You didn't have any of that kind of stuff.
It's kind of ironic that he broke his skull but didn't cause any like
get a concussion from that or anything damage. Maybe I didn't get any brain
damage, damage damage, So, uh, you know going through then he
had Jordan with you and only sixteen months behind you. That had to be
Was it a good thing a bad thing for you? I think it was
a good thing. Yeah. I mean did you kind of hang out together
at school and stuff or we were we were two grades apart, like he
was he was in second grade, I was in first grade. Yeah,
a great apart and men didn't Yeah, because great apart for the old ones
people I really knew. Yeah, because like I remember, you would hang
out with me and my friends, because you know, I grew up with
you, and you know, I hung out with some of the friends you
did have here and there, but for the most part, my friends were
always over at the house. Yeah. I think I got I got really
got a really together when I went to Strader. Yeah. Yeah, right
when we moved out yea to Webster and then we went that was the first
time we hadn't gone to school together, Yeah, because Jordan at all,
other than other than when mom home schooled you before my freshman year. Yeah,
and then that was the one time where you went off and did your
own thing. I had your own friends, and I went off and did
my own thing and had my own friends. Right, it was weird.
It was weird. It was weird because we'd at least for me, I
don't know if it was for you, but you know, we'd get home
from school at different times. We always had because I was in sports and
stuff. But I was used to getting a little bit of insight on some
of the teachers from you because we had a lot of the same teachers growing
up, so you you would always tell me what they were like before I
had them. And then that wasn't that wasn't the case when so you like
Schrader better? Yeah, yeah, what was it about that? I don't
know, It's just better atmosphere, I guess. Yeah, well I wasn't
kids you grew up with, you know, and a lot of times people
will change and go to a different high school than they did, you know,
through the elementary years more or less, and uh that's usually helpful and
healthy I think in a way. Uh, but so you were I mean
there was a change in the family dynamic. Uh were you as senior then
or junior senior? Yeah, because I if you're talking about when you and
yeah, yeah, yeah, that was that was midway through my junior year
of high school. I think so not my No, it was junior year.
Did we ever? Like we never? Really? I mean there was
much to say, but uh, how how was that for you? I
mean I think I tried to talk to you about it a few times and
you were just like, yeah, I was focused on my bs really,
so I didn't really wasn't too much affected by it. No, No,
you know, not at all. And then I mean, I mean it
would be weird. I would I would think, yeah, but you just
seem to roll with stuff. Yeah, and have been rolling with it ever
since. Yeah, nothing I can do about it. I probably can't worked
up over it. Well, I think that's always a smart thing to do.
Like, you know, what you can control is what you should do,
and you can control how you react to things and your overall general attitude.
Really you can control those things. And the things that you can't control
that you would get yourself upset about aren't necessarily worth getting upset about, because
um it just you know, it's like what am I gonna do? Right?
A lot of times, what am I gonna do? And I've always
I'm always sorry. I think the probably the things that I and when I
look back is, uh, there were changes in my radio career at the
time, and um, I was a lot of change. Well there were
there were changing. Some that were ones I wanted and some were ones that
I didn't really have control over either, you know, but one going from
when WCMF got bought by another company and I was part of that station and
who was staying, who was going and all that, and so, you
know, I sometimes I wonder how much I missed because I'll often think,
I don't know that I remember certain things, and I know I worked a
lot. I remember that. Um there would be days where I got home
from school and you weren't home from work yet. Or there'd be days where
I'd get home from school and you would be home from work. Yeah,
you know, I remember our big thing after you and mom split up was
you would always pick me up after school. Yeah, I would. I
always try to make sure that that was a deal. It's always helped that
I was getting out at like four or five o'clock. I think sometimes,
yes, sometimes, but yeah, because I was doing morning radio. But
there was a lot there, and I guess one of the things, like,
you know, it's it's funny to me because I said this to your
aunt once and I said, I think I'm good at starting things. You
know, every single one of these things, especially when you were little,
whether it was somebody like a guy who's in the Radio National Radio Hall of
Fame. Brother, We's leaves that station and you're left there in the rubble
and you've got you know, everybody believes it's just going to fall apart because
he was and is a huge radio personality that people flock to. Right,
So my I, what was I going to do? So I just put
my head down and worked and worked and worked. And any I will say,
and almost to the detriment any format I did, like what we're doing
here, where it was talk, I took it from nothing to number one.
Every single time I did that, no matter where it was. They
started a midday talk show and they put me there with somebody and it went
to number one. There was nothing there, So it's not like you're starting
out, you know, you're not. You're starting with a some semblance or
something. You're not you know, the biggest personality in the leaves. We
took us a little while, but we it got to number one. But
I'm all in on those things, and I think sometimes when I look back
I go. Boy, I don't know that I should have been Maybe I
should have been more. I don't know if there was a more present with
you guys. I don't know. I felt like at times I was,
but I know I would like I'd hear some commotion out in the other room,
because my office is a station's playroom, and I'd come out and I'd
probably yell. And you know, do you remember at time, Jackson,
when we wrestled and we had put down pulled up some of the carpet that
was in the basement and put down just kind of this press board it looked
like. And then I had socks on and we started to wrestle, and
you got me down and I couldn't. I totally lost my footing a little
bit. Yeah, you have a little bit wherever. Yeah, I think
you. I don't even know if you might have been fourteen at the time,
not that uh. And but you would like to come back here,
why, I've just been homesick, You've had three years. I feel like
this is a great place to like start fresh on my own. Yeah.
Is that a big thing for you to start fresh on your own? Yeah?
Yeah, Well, and I have noticed with you that I think,
um, a lot of times, you know, as kids, you're we
all do this. I did it with you guys, and my parents probably
try to do with me, try to direct you in certain areas. And
yet I think you kind of find where your strength and interests are and you
know, doing the things you I mean, going out to be the waiter
when you were more of a quiet, reserved guy with something and man,
you made it work. Were there difficulties in that for you a little bit?
Yeah, in the in the beginning. Yeah, but you I mean
seemed to rise to the occasion when when when I went in there, the
restaurant you worked at, and everybody seemed to love you. Yeah. Yeah,
so that's a thing. Just wait till we get busy. Why because
that's when they did not like me. Why, I don't know. They
no, I was fine. I was just going with the mo is shins.
They couldn't keep up. I guess, I don't know who couldn't keep
up. People who would run into like saying, hey, hot food on
your left, and they would just stand there. Oh oh, And then
one of the kitchenmans would yell at me and say, say, I know
we've had completely being aggressive like that's a pot calling the guy. She's the
I'm not even gonna get into it. But that being said, people have
said, hey, if you're not running food, got the kitchen, But
the second I do it, I'm an asshole. Yeah. I think sometimes
when you were and I used to always think this with you, was that
you were always tall. You're six to seven now, and I think when
you're the biggest person, people can see who it is and they want to
That's why I used to always think, like with you, if you were
fooling around in class, even if it was some mother kid that might have
instigated it or started it, you're pointing at me that you're gonna You're gonna
be the one to get in trouble only because you're the one that we can
see doing it. You're bigger, and your movements are and the term would
be grosser, not grosser in disgusting, but grosser and larger because you move
bigger. You're a bigger guy. So if I turn around and I and
I hear somebody going hey, and I see Jackson doing something which may be
in retaliation to somebody else who started it, you're the guy that's gonna get
in trouble and that was I used to say that to you all the time,
like you got to be careful because you're the you're the tallest one,
they're the You're the one they're gonna see. Literal elephant in the room.
Ladies and gentlemen, Jackson, you seem a little tired today. I want
a little more pep in your step. What's going on? I take it
aired Do you need a drink or something? I don't. I don't know.
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none? Do you ever here? Baby got back? Yeah? Oh,
all this is AI AI. Do you do you ever use check GPT at
all? I did? Yeah? For what talk right into that micrutly,
so um I would use Is it to help me when I was stuck on
homework? Yeah, not to turn in the answers, but just to see,
well it writes too flowery? I think I think it writes too flowery
in certain situations. But I think it's a great thing if you get writer's
block. And I was even talking to a former New York Times reporter who
said the same thing. If you have a writer's block or you're trying,
or even even a joke of phraseology of something, chat GPT can can be
helpful. I I you know, I hear all these things about AI,
and I'm a big believer in um you you can't put the genie back in
the bottle, right so that it's it's coming anyway, So how can you
embrace it and use it to it to help you not hurt you? And
I know people are saying, well, it's gonna put a lot of people
out of work. Uh yeah, But there's a theory in life. It's
called adapter die. Adapter die and it sucks. It sounds harsh, it
sounds cold, but it's really the truth. I mean, look at anything
you know in the in the world, and that's the way it is.
I think in the medical world it's never going to replace a doctor, but
it could certainly help make them more accurate. The problem with chat GBT is
it's only as smart as the people putting the information in. It'll learn from
repetition and doing things over and over and seeing more data come in. But
you know, especially with health, how far our knowledge goes is as far
as it's really can go, at least in the beginning, and I don't
know from there, but we'll see. Do you follow any of that stuff?
Yeah, sometimes I see it on my feed. I'm not really into
Oh yeah, I think so. If you had um, and we'll talk
about both of you guys. Now that you have alcohol, probably perky up
a little bit because you went down to family and I think you're hungover,
and you were not hungover. I think you're not willing. I don't think
you would. The biggest thing is we did not get home until really late
from Lockwood because we didn't even leave there until eight thirty. And that's one.
You just stay another night. You couldn't. We could have. We
just decided enough, it's enough. Any one on like over stay right now.
Let me let me bring up a little behind the scenes here, because
you guys were going down there and you wanted to leave Saturday at nine?
Wasn't that? Or what one Monday? Excuse me, Monday at nine?
So I called Jordan to just see, hey, did you guys get on
the road, And Jordan says, no, we're waiting because Jackson wants to
get a bottle of Jack Daniels in. The liquor store opens at nine.
Just time out, it's okay, you're twins. Well, here's the thing.
Turns out the liquor store wasn't even open. I figured I told you
that, okay, I said to you, I go no liquor store.
What fucking open at nine? No, that's the thing. I looked it
up one of our cousin posts underfeed. If you don't, if you're gonna
shoot me this, look, when I'm at the liquor store at nine,
don't be open at nine, Okay. I saw, Like I looked on
Google Maps to double checks. I was like, there's no way they're opened
that early. Yeah. When you said to me, I just looked it
up, Okay, said, I'm thinking to myself, nine o'clock for a
liquor store. All you're gonna get is problems problem people, I'm thinking.
But anyway, so so I said to you, well, why don't you
just buy it. You'll be driving and something will open up if it's eleven
by the time. Yeah, that's what we ended up doing. But but
I also, what else did I say to you? Jordan? Uh,
you need to bring something for the house? Yeah, for the people you're
saying Jack Daniels is for in his head, Jack, That's what it was,
Jack time out. I have got to call bullshit on that. I'm
going to say, why I have to call bullshit? You can call it,
but I'll tell you that it's true. All right, hang on,
let me finish my thought and then you can jump in with yours. The
reason I thought it was bullshit is I know you like that. I do,
And yeah, so have is that christ that Dawson Christina's has been collects
Jack Daniels. Okay, but I think you were expecting to drink that around
the bonfire, So you were going to bring the bottle and expect to drink
it, yes or no? Yes, okay, but at the end of
the day, that was his choice to make, and he did in fact,
yes. But my my thing is you can't go with a gift that
you're hoping that they're gonna share back with you. You gotta go with Hey,
I brought a bottle of jack for everybody me included all of you.
And here's some flowers, and here's the dessert, or here's if you're going
to somebody's house that you're gonna do and and I fair enough, Yeah,
so did you? Yes? Bullshit? We got the flowers. Okay,
that's fine. Yeah, did you who bought the flowers? I did?
Okay, And you bought the bottle of jack? Okay, all right.
I just it's so funny watching you two clowns. It's like you're two because
I know, I know for a fact, no matter what's gone on between
you, your mom, and and me, there's no way she would let
you go somewhere without that. She is has such great manners and stuff.
Really yeah, oh yeah, yes, you're right polite and proper. Yeah,
So where where did miss the mark here that you wouldn't think that already?
You didn't miss the mark? I just wasn't thinking. Well, I
believe it on this, I BlimE it. I'ld be in like a young
guy. I could say that. No, I did that myself. I
read about a little bit younger than you. When I would go to this
girl's house for dinner, and I remember once like I didn't bring anything,
and it was kind of brought to my attention like hey, dummy, and
my parents are like, yeah, we told you. I was like,
oh, well, I mean I just explained it to both you. All
right, okay, very quiet. I don't know. Are you uncomfortable doing
No, I'm fine. You wanted to do this, I did fine,
Okay, Well, I just want to make sure you're fine. Well,
it's just hard to put thoughts together sometimes. Why, you know, the
moment, you don't know what to talk about transition, Okay, well the
conversation. We had two bonfires. Yes, Tay can control of the situation.
So Chris, I'm supposed to burn like a thing, a debris,
just for like chores. And then he already had a he texted me Saturday.
I was already going to text him on this Saturday saying, hey,
we're gonna be here that from here to here, and he ends up taking
me hey, saying, hey, we built a small bonfire for you in
the backyard. It's only ten feet tall. Yeah, only ten feet exact
words. And the flames ended up getting up to thirty feet something like that.
Yeah, wow, Yeah, And we ended up throwing all kinds of
like crap from the back of three He had three rundown trucks there, so
we ended up clearing out of the beds, just throwing him in there.
And then it started to rain. So the one, the smaller one that
he did just for chores, was was out pretty quick. Everything it took
a while. Yeah, you know, that's kind of what happens when you
poured dieseling gasoline on a fire oil. Yeah. But my point, like
the next morning there was nothing in the pit but ash, but there was
still some like wood left over the big ones. So I ended up playing
with that for a few hours. Okay, Yeah, and you like that,
you'd like you would love to have to live down that way. I
would, yeah, like one more like own like a piece of property down
there and have like a trailer and just every other weekend type of thing,
type kind of a weekend escape. Yeah. Yeah, it's nice. It
is. It's it's uh in the Waverley right, Yeah, there up on
basically a mountain right around Waverley and Sayer, I think are the two towns
it's between. Yeah, and they have about one hundred acres up there,
a little over a little over on. It's on your mom's side of the
family. Uh. And that's where some of the height is, right because
you're six seven people go, where does the height come from? I'm sixty
one, but those guys are six nine six six six four six six two
Chus six two or six four Seawan six two. A lot of tall people
on that side of the Yeah. But you're always talking about the family tree.
This is when you really have to climb pretty high in order to I
remember being down there once and all of a sudden, one of the little
girls, the younger cousins of yours, came running in screaming, Jamison's dead.
He got run over. Oh you were driving it? Yeah, here's
no. This is the part that everyone Jamison was like six. It was
like seven. Well, okay, So he's riding on the golf cart in
the back and I'm driving it because they have like golf carts and yeah,
four by fours and side by sides, and he decides to jump off and
run alongside the golf cart and I'm just continuing to drive, not thinking anything
of it. I think he's just going to run to the house and like
off the side. Yeah. No, he decides to cut right in front
of me. I barely see him move, and I hit the brakes and
I by the time I hit the brake, I've already run him over and
he's now stuck underneath the thing. Yep, I shouldn't lap that poor kid.
I mean, were you slammed him into a chair once he got a
buckle fracture? Yeah, he tested me. No, I'm just kidding.
We were We were just play fighting like brothers do, and did hard.
Yeah, yeah, broke his arm. But you used to. You guys,
we used to do that all the time. You guys used to get
into some big fights. Oh yeah, big time. Yeah. Do you
remember? Yeah? I remember one time. Do you remember, mister Jones,
they're grade, Yes, give me that gord. I tried to kill
him if we broke it. Oh yeah, you're leaving back. I kept
going, I'm gonna kill I'm gonna kill him because you broke it. I
remember, Yeah, I don't remember why I broke it. I think it
was an accident. I think so too, Look at it was an accident.
Yeah. I ended up talking to him when I had him in third
grade and asked for a replacement he did. Yeah, I asked for an
extra because he told because he did that same lesson he did with you for
I think it was for like Thanksgiving or something, probably, I know.
Yeah, So what things went on that I wasn't aware of it? Like
I didn't know that everybody was climbing up on the roof. That was just
something we would do for fun. I mean we'd climb up there and just
just to beat on a roof. Yeah, but nobody used to. I
was always waiting for people to climb out the bathroom window upstairs and on to
the low hanging shop of the pool, and was just thinking that, Yeah,
no one ever did it. Talked to him out of it. A
couple of times. Wait, you were really tried, so full that you
were talking to me about it. One time we were in the pool and
you were like, dude, how how fun would it be for me to
jump off that roof into the pool. I'm like, you'll break your fucking
leg by the time you hit You know who did do it? Oh?
Me? Yeah you did? I remember you know you didn't. You weren't
home. I thought I heard the story. I thought Mom told me that.
No, she wasn't home either. I didn't even tell her really no,
because if I said it, she would say I would. She would
probably be like, well, please don't do that in front of the boys.
And I didn't want it brought up in front of you guys at all.
I didn't want you doing it, although I totally got it, if
you did, I'd be like, yeah, I get it, I totally
get that. No, but I did. I did it. A couple
of times. You carawled through the bathroom, just set up a ladder.
No, I came out out through the bathroom window one time. I think
there was a Fourth of July. You guys were all went down to your
grandparents, who at the time were living in Florida, and you were down
there for a couple of weeks. Oh yeah, I'm home alone. I
was up and I'm in the bathroom and I go, you know, it
would be a great idea right now, And I went out completely naked,
ompletely naked. Neighbors everybody could see. I didn't give a shit, but
I went quick out boom fam right into the pool, all by myself,
dark out, no broad daylight. Oh it's like probably around noon, neighbors
are out there grilling hot dogs. No, there was like I peeked,
I could see nobody was in our neighbor, Jim's yard, And then I
didn't. I don't know if someone was gonna be walking down because we had
a sidewalk on one side of the house. But there was defense and stuff,
and there were does a tree block and we're like here out the window.
Hit that thing, boom right into the pool. You guys didn't do
anything. I was always waiting because I, as a as a guy grown
up, was always always pushing the boundaries, like I was in trouble.
I was if just to give you an example, state police showed up in
my house to talk about property damage at a party that I was not at
because they knew I knew everybody who would be there. I was voted in
my high school yearbook most likely to be found looking for a party in ten
years. So but you guys, I certainly would never tell you that.
I mean, i'll tell you now you're your bed. But at the time,
so I was always like thinking, well, I guess, I guess
it's good that you don't now. The other side of it was times had
changed, Times had changed a lot, and people the laws were changed.
The laws were stricter, especially on underage and alcohol and all that sort of
stuff. You had a party with a bunch of people and no, no,
just but it was like eighth grade or something. It was fine.
It was a nice party. But even there, like I remember going,
there were be spin the bottle that you guys weren't doing any of that stuff
because it was But I think it was a party that was like mostly my
friends from the football team. Yeah, I know, but there were some
girls there. And then I thought I also don't want to encourage it,
and it was you know, you got to keep the doors open, and
you never I don't know it was to me. I was always like,
whatever you're gonna do, you're you're gonna do. Let's just I don't know.
I mean, that was the one and only one I ever hosted,
because yeah, I hated hosting shit, yes, all the time, right.
I don't know if it was because of all the family or well.
I did a video that I think you can find somewhere online of updates throughout
the night, me and Jamison updating throughout the night on your party, and
then me at the end of the night in bed talking to the camera about
all the things that went on at the party and how some guy goes hey
bro, and I go, you don't call me bro? Yeah, I
think I remember, But you guys were as far as I remember, there
was no real shenanigans. I mean, you later on when he got to
high school, had a few incidents things, But I'll tell you what,
I didn't really handle a lot of that. Your mom did. Your mom
handled most of that stuff. I mean when you did have some shit,
I had, Yeah, you had some shit. Actually, now that I
think about it. But again, a lot of the shit I tried to
have, I tried to keep low key enough to where you guys wouldn't find
out, because I was always seeing what would happen when you guys did find
out what I was doing, even if it was the smallest Well what did
what did I do? Because I don't remember that I did anything. I
mean, if you were the one to find out about something, you'd be
like, I'm not gonna tell your mom, but you have to do that.
Jesus, I said that. You said that like once or twice over
something like stupid, like together, like the time it was you guys were
together, and it would be like if mom was out doing something and you
saw me break like a coffee mugg or oh yeah, accident, you'd be
like, I'm not going to tell your mom, but you ever don't need
to talk about it. Yeah. Yeah, it was never any big shit
that you found out. No, mom was always the one to find Was
it fun growing up? Did you have fun? It was a good time.
I don't know, God, we had time, okay, because I
always it went so fast that and like I said, a lot of times,
I feel like most of my time was spent trying to build stuff and
in terms of like a career and make sure that there was food and money
and insurance and all these things. It was, but you were also there
for some of the cool shit that we got to do, Like you helped
some of the cool shit you did, like a music festivals, McConnery's other
stuff. That's training camp a lot of years. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I didn't even think of that stuff. Building the treehouse in the backyard.
Yeah, you and Eddie helped us do that. Yeah, yeah,
I mean I but I always liked that stuff. You know. I wouldn't
say it was the best of working with my hands, but I like it.
And it was a different thing for me because at the end of the
day, I could go I did that where with you know, less so
with a podcast, more so with radio, I had no fucking idea,
Right, You wouldn't get ratings on things until three months after whatever you did
that day, you wouldn't find out the results of it, So it didn't
you know, to me, it was like, it's great, but it's
out in the ether. People could tell you, hey man, that was
a fantastic show. You could walk away feeling great, but I didn't have
anything tangible. If I put up a door, I could look at that
and go, shit, I really did a shitty job with that. But
or there was satisfaction to that thing. That's why I would always say to
you, guys, find the things that that give you satisfaction and and don't
shy away from from things. And I would also say, uh, do
the things that that scare you. I wouldn't say scare you to the point
of, like, you know, danger of You always had a what I
thought was a very healthy fear, even though I got frustrated a few times
of roller coasters and things. You didn't you you were not a fan.
Yeah, mostly because of a general fear of falling off of No, and
that makes sense. I mean, look, there was just the roller coaster
that was built to steel and they had that crack as it went by,
right, I mean everybody saw that, or that that old wives tale about
the guy who wrote the Superman with No legs. That's not it's not,
but everyone has chalked it up to like a legendary story. Well it is
because like how do you how do you let a guy do that? I
don't know, but the so I always thought, you know, that healthy
fear of stuff, which was good because I love to this day, I
don't do it on our roads, especially as I've gotten older. I have
this a real respect for this is where people live, This is where kids.
You don't know who's going to pop out somebody's dog. All this stuff
of speeding, even on like four ninety and stuff, I don't They're not
built for that, and it's not fair. You're putting a lot of people's
lives in danger when you speed, you really are, because something could happen
that you can't lock up those brakes fast enough. No matter how good you
think you are, you're you're not that good. But I love going to
race tracks and I love going one hundred and twenty miles an hour, and
I've done that a lot. But I you didn't have that, And that
made me feel happy because I had a lot of friends grown up in a
rural area where I grew up that died in car accidents, you know,
not always because of drugs, a lot of times just because of speed.
And I used to say one of the biggest things. People would mock me
for saying this, but I said that one of the things that scares me
the most was young men in cars because there's you know, why do we
send guys your age off to war because you think you're invincible in a way.
In a way, I'm not saying that that isn't there isn't an imminent
fear of certain things. But there's a bravado. We need that we you
know, the whole world has needed that. Um. I think that sometimes
some of the greatest inventions like who wants to go fast? But crazy people?
You know, the guys in the submarine. I mean that thing was
not built for five people. I understand. It was not built for five
pee I understand. But also being controlled by a knockoff ex controller, that's
a really bad example. A lot of things are actually controlled by that.
But this is a logic tech by the way, anyway, it was not
It was not a whatever the game controller was. It was a logic.
Yeah, but it was cost like five bucks. But but it was a
logic. But here was my thinking on it. They had done it a
couple of times. These were people who wanted to live at the edge.
They lived at the edge. The one that one billionaire had done all this
stuff even to be a billionaire you've got to have some fucking balls, man,
because you've got to put it out there, and you've got to take
risks, and you've got to be willing to lose in order to win.
And these guys were also funding research that is in the ocean, and if
you talk to certain scientists, they'll say the answers to our lives or in
the ocean. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what
these people who are smarter than me have said. So they were, you
know, the the hundreds of thousands of dollars that were it took to go
down, and that thing was also going back to fund and pay and all
this stuff. They knew what they were getting themselves into. So I it's
tragic. I feel bad that these are you know, that they're not here
anymore. But to me, I go, yeah, living on the edge
a little bit, and I've kind of been that way, and I was
glad that maybe you guys weren't so much. It's different when you have like
look at it. You I wouldn't want anything to have happened. It would
be it would be terrible, you know, yeah, you know, I
mean even now when you drive and stuff, I do worry about sometimes distracted
driving worries me tremendously, making pretty heavy eye contact with me, saying that,
well only yeah, I don't know. I mean, how are you
with that? I'm good? All right, okay, all right, We'll
take a moment and when we come back, Jordan wants to we'll talk about
some of the other things from your childhood. Yeah, and then maybe some
of your plans for the future, maybe exactly why you want to get into
law enforcement and why Jordan is pursuing a law on the other side. Sort
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I took theory if you offered this so far, so I only see him
in front of me. Now the passes out of side, and now man
swore I change now while I'm back chasing these wide. Man, I'm just
a lie. Yes, Jordan's long haired son of a sinner. I'm a
battle You know who this is. No, I've heard the song. Oh
God, you guys make me so fucking happy that you don't know. It's
jelly Roll. And I have always said that I think jelly Roll has a
great voice, but it's a dog whistle for idiots. Like But I've also
said if jelly Roll walked in here and I could do I have a conversation
with jelly Roll, I think I would love the guy by the end of
it. I really do. I think he's got an interesting story. And
but I just look at h this is a dog whistle for morons. I
know he is. I just didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I say any of the stuff. I thought. It's really funny that you
say that, because that reminds me of something you used to tell us as
a kid. Oh great, can't wait to hear this. And uh,
I remember this because you told us this story and it got you in a
lot of trouble at work. What I got cost cost them, cost you
a sponsorship. You told us, you used to tell us all the time
that we shouldn't. We weren't allowed to drink mountain dew as kids because you
what did you call it? Do you remember? A crack for idiots?
Yeah? What did I call it? Basically that? But what? What?
What word? What did I say? What I said that? You
said that it was cracked for retards? And it cost you a Pepsi sponsorship.
It did on one of your at some gig or something. You've got
in a lot of trouble and they lost your show, lost ads from Pepsi
because of it. I don't, I don't. I don't know. That
seems like a that seems like the story too far. Thank you? Maybe,
Oh no, that's I remember you saying that. I don't know how
true it was. Yeah, but I do remember. What did I call
it? I don't the R word? I used the R word? Yeah?
Did see you kids? I did. No, I was older when
you told me that part of the story. Yeah, but when we were
you're still kids, your kids now you're twenty one, right, But we
were like actual kids, and we were like seven or eight years old going
to a ball game or something, or going out to eat and they had
mountain dew on the menu. You wouldn't let us have it or keep it
in the house. Why was the Mountain I did? I always sell it
was crack forddi I did. Yeah, I thought Mountain Dew was probably one
of the worst ones. And I know people UH say that I do like
Pepsi. I like Pepsi products. I like like you had in this,
you know, knowing it. I have no endorsements from Pepsi at all.
They have nothing to do with the pirate ship. But I had diet cherry
Pepsi in the in the fridge and I drank it, and I no,
that's fine. I mean, I'm just saying like they But I was never
a Mountain Dew guy. And I remember reading some of the stuff in Mountain
Dew and I'm like, that's bad. It's funny because I was with Brian
Gianta on Saturday. Brian Gionta played in the NHL for eighteen seasons. He
won a Stanley Cup early on in his career. Later on became I believe
the second captain. I think on the podcast I said the first, but
he didn't correct me. For a second American captain of the Montreal Canadians.
He made a lot of money and was so famous in Canada that it would
be like Josh Allen trying to go grab a pizza here. It was like
messy going to uh yeah, but going to Public's in Miami where he got
all this that was Brian couldn't go anywhere. I mean, he was a
a complete hero there and then finished his career. I think with the Bruins
played a little bit with Buffalo Um. But he was saying, you know,
all the nutrition and stuff, and I said to him, how hard
is it when you know, watching your kids. He goes there's times when
they go to the pantry and grab a stack of oreos and I think to
myself, or maybe he said of sleeve you, oh man, you don't
know what you're doing to yourself. And I always felt like like that with
with Mountain Dew. But that that's just me. I know a lot of
people love it. People use it as the first thing they drink in the
morning to wake up because it's got a lot of caffeine and it's not as
maybe hard on some people who find coffee too acidic and don't like the taste
and that sort of thing. I don't know. Did I say other stupid
things like that I don't You had a lot of different mannerisms about you when
we were kids, Like what I don't remember? Yeah, did that?
What did I do? Did you just say you would come out? I'm
trying to think of one. It's like, you know, the Mountain dew
one, that's a big story. Yeah, that was something that always stuck
on me as a kid. I don't remember losing you said that it costs
that, it costs you a PEPs. It's possible, It's possible. It's
possible. I had a big mouth. Yeah, yeah, some things never
changed. Okay, So what are there other things I don't remember? Because
I was going to say, you know, there were a couple of things
with Jackson that I remember, um that always really will always stand out in
my mind. One was they had a talent show at his elementary school.
Oh, Jackson was like five years old in kindergarten and I and he wanted
to do stand up. He's gonna do some stand up comedy. And there
was a lot of talk to stand up in the house and all this,
and he had knock knock jokes and I tried to talk to Jackson and Jackson
was like, just leave me alone. I gotta I gotta gets So then
we get up there. Well, we got up there and I'm I'm nervous,
so I'm going out on the stage with her. I don't know why
I that was one of those moments as a young dad that I felt like
I got to protect this kid because I don't know what's gonna happen. And
you were doing your knock knock jokes and getting some laughs, and then you
did knock knock and who's there, and you give the who's there. I
don't remember what you said. Some kid jumps in to finish the joke first,
and you go you look at him and go, Nope, it's this
And I went, oh, you didn't even need me. You did not
even need me. I was so proud of you in that moment. I
thought that was fantastic. And then another thing that always stood out to me
was later or on uh you know, Jordan had mentioned you you did stay
out a year and get homeschooled, and then when you came back, um,
you had uh an iep and things. So you were working to but
you were going to get a Regions diploma. But in order to do that,
you needed to double up on history and you had some tutoring things,
but man, you pushed yourself and you got through and you got that region's
diploma and I was like, damn. And that was one of those moments
where I went this kid, when he wants to will figure it out.
You will. You will always have that that that way you're you were you
were somewhat of an enigma to me because um, I would look at you
like Jordan I got there was effort and then I could I could see it
and the refrustration and he frustration and you were more quiet, and I was
like, was he doing anything? And then you did. You went through,
and man, you did it. And I'm like, all right,
well, I don't know why everybody's different, and I think that's what makes
the world great. But those were moments that I was like, damn that
that kid. And when you went out for the football team and you try,
you know, you did it to make friends and wrestling, and it
always the moments that I saw where you would push yourself and put yourself in
uncomfortable moments. And I think another one of my favorites was at the YMCA
when I asked you to spot me and I'm sitting at the end of the
bench and I look up and there's a mirror in front of me, and
I see this guy flexing behind me. So I had a snap a quick
photo and go, look who's flexing? And yeah, but I was always
like, I go, wait. I always admired that it was a very
quiet drive to do things. And now you want to go and be of
service. You really want to go into law and it you know when you
look at that, the police haven't been people's favorite favorites for a while.
Maybe the pendulums maybe coming back a little bit, but it certainly hasn't been
for a while. Yeah. Yeah, does that worry you at all?
I really know. No, So what is it about law enforcement that you
think you want to be part of that and you want to do that?
Yeah, it's just you know, I've always wanted to be of service since
I was five years old. Now I'm too tall for the military. Still
can't believe they have a height limit, but whatever, and I think law
enforcement is the next best thing. I'll never forget when he first told me
about the height limit thing, yeah, because he was looking into going you
were looking into the Marines, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, And
back in my head, I was like, he's not gonna fit in the
fucking submarine. Turns out that's why that's why he can't that's why he can't
enlist. It's because he's too tall for the for any the board. Yeah,
I thought it was just the I thought it was just the Marines.
Yeah, every branch. Yeah, which makes sense. I mean I I
could see him now just in a fighter jet, like would literally writ me
in half. Yeah. And I think with you, Jordan, I know,
like you know, coming out of the comfort zone and McQuaid and all
that. I always thought I never helped you with anything. I think I
might have helped you, studied you. I don't remember helping you. You
help me. You helped me with math, and that did not go well
because you were I ended up correcting you on some of the stuff in math,
which was funny because math was my worst subject. I don't see again.
Now these are the things like I don't mean to call you because the
story I don't remember, the math one I remember. Don't make up stories,
Jordan, No, he this could be true. This could you helped
me with math when I was in fifth grade? Yeah, because I was
upset because I wasn't in the honors class, which fifth grade? The fuck
is honors math? Oh, you get to learn five? You know five
times five is twenty five, just a little bit faster than the other kid.
Cool, you're in the class. It's gonna make you work a little
bit harder. I wanted that. And I remember you would help me work
on this thing that I really struggled with. Were those fast fact math quizzes.
Yeah, and your thing was you weren't trying to help me so much
get the math right, but get the timing down. Yes. And when
you would try and help me figure out these problems, I would be figuring
them out, but I wouldn't be figuring them out fast enough. And so
you would try and teach me little tricks on how to get out of my
head and stop slowing myself down. Yeah. And I remember a second time
was seventh grade math. I was learning the Pythagorean theorem and you were trying.
Mom wasn't there, So I had to ask you second. Well,
because mom was always was the second choice. You were always the second choice
because you were always working. Yeah, so I knew, and not to
say mom wasn't doing things, but Mom was always willing to help with them.
Well, and she was. You know, your mom was always working.
Yeah she was, but she was in the kitchen either preparing dinner and
working on something there. But she was around where I would just bury myself
down to my office and hut exactly. Yeah. But I had a bathroom
in there, a shower. It was great, it was I just remember
you helping. It worked. Uh it did, yeah, it did,
it did, but we weren't allowed to use it. No. I just
remember this like tile liss thing. But there was a hole and I had
cut through because they um, there was a flood, so I had to
cut out part of the board. I remember that. Not imagine anyone thinking
that's a room to bathe in, but I just remember that. Yeah,
I'm not gonna look you in the eye for a while. It's a basement.
It's like a prison. Well, I just remember that because you were
you were there and I was asking you for help on this and because I
was getting it, but I wanted you to just double check my work.
I wasn't really having you, like actually walk me through it. You were
telling me I was wrong, and then I had to Again I couldn't ask
mom, so I just I googled it and I was right, And I
remember laughing in your face so hard. I don't remember any of this.
Maybe I black out the bad stuff. Yeah, maybe the Pythagorean theorem was
easy. And then this is triangle the strongest geometrical structure. Look at any
bridge or anything. It's all triangles. You know. Well, I learned
that now when I put up structure tensive a card. Yeah. Yeah,
it's the strongest structure. So everything's a triangle. And that's what you're gonna
you know, you're trying to go. And I'm a big believer in I've
always thought this, the rule of three three jokes, three three examples,
three three is your limit. Don't you know you're gonna speaker that goes on,
oh, three minute rounds in boxing minute rounds in boxing. Yeah,
I don't. I don't know, but I don't. I don't remember that.
I remember. I just the other thing I remember with you that I
thought really really impressed me was you were one of the younger guys and it
was a lot of Jackson's friends on your little league team, and we went
into fallball and we're having you a pitch and that's when Dan who's on the
podcast, came over and showed you how to pitch. And you were very
little. I was really you were undersized, and in that uniform, even
the smallest one, it was baggy. You looked like, you know,
you were afraid it was going to trip over every Norman Rockwell raw sing that
there ever was for a kid playing baseball. And you went out on that
mound and I remember the coaches going, oh, we gotta gonta ever get
pitch? I don't know. He goes, yeah, okay, and then
you just blew them away. And I remember I was I'll say it this
way, and I think people may find it out, but I never really
say I'm proud of you. I was proud for you. You should be
proud of you because and I could see it. And I think the one
thing that I've always wanted for you boys, all of you, is to
get the win, as I call it. And the reason I say it
that way is that in any sport, a great coach was harder on you
after a win than a loss. And I believe that when you're winning or
you're seeing results, you're willing to push yourself. And as an example,
any any adult, any anybody at any age, but usually probably more adults
than even kids. You do a diet, right, and you start out
and it sucks, and you're going this, and all of a sudden you
start to see results. Or you start working out like you right, you
lifting weights, and all of a sudden, then you start seeing results.
And when you see results, what do you do? You keep going?
You push yourself. Now I'm going to go further. I want this.
I can see it happening. I can see it. We we live in
a a see it, touch it, feel it, sense it, smell
at world. Right, that's our reality. I think that we should be
probably living a little bit to the other side of that. But because of
that, I think most people hold back. And so I always thought,
you know, for you guys, it would give you a belief in yourself
that if I can do this, I could do that. Right, if
I could do this, I could do that. And that's where I was
very impressed Jackson, when you did the region's diploma. That was that was
amazing. I didn't you know, I don't want to. I never wanted
to be overly a great job, and sometimes I think I was. You
got spared a lot because he got a ton of lectures. A ton,
I know, like every day. I think I found every single day for
the better part of two years when Dad would take me home from school.
I should have recorded them. We could have made our own podcast out of
it. Life Lessons with Bill Moran. I don't know if they were good
or half of them were dogshit? Do you mean they were dog You don't
know, I do not, all right, well, half of them.
It wasn't like it was just too specific to the situation that was going on.
Not a lot of people could get something out of that. Well maybe
maybe, I don't know. You were very inspiration. I wasn't trying to
I was not in any way trying to inspire anybody, but you. Yeah,
my concern was you. And I knew that it was not an easy
time. I knew there was a lot of transitions, a lot of things
happening, a lot of upheaval. That was the first time. Yeah,
we had a lot of upheaval. There was one that almost would have been
another big one. What's that when I was in middle school, Jackson.
I don't know if you remember, I'm sure you do, but you almost
moved us to a way. Yeah, I do remember this, Yes,
well, I was more concerned than anything because having friends with it. I
was worried we'd have to get rid of Bella he at the time. Yeah,
like we couldn't bring a dog with us to La. Yeah, why
couldn't bring the dog? How the hell are we going to do dog to
La? We weren't thinking about you put it. You put the dog in
a crate. Yeah, we we didn't think about that. You were a
little kid. My mom said that it would have been somebody. I don't,
Mom, you, I don't. Somebody said something and we just kept
going and then but I remember talking about it for a while, and then
we just didn't do it. Yeah, I remember from what I heard was
I remember you you pulled me into your office and then Mom talked to me
about it after, and you were telling You told me that I wasn't allowed
to tell anybody this because you and Mom were the only ones who new that
you were pursuing a new job opportunity in Los Angeles. I was in I
think sixth or seventh grade, sixth grade, and I was I was upset
because you know, I had just started a technically new school, but I
was getting used to still being in school with everybody I grew up with.
And then you were like, we might move to Los Angeles. It's looking
like it's going to happen. You know, there's a better show opportunity out
there. And I remember I went up after you told me. I went
upstairs and I saw a mom and I was like, how long were you
gonna just keep this from me? And she was like, we wanted to
tell you first, because we didn't tell you first. You weren't home,
you were doing something else. You just weren't there. You didn't give a
shit about anybody, you didn't care like but me, I was like,
I can't tell my friends. I can't tell my because the biggest reason why
you said that was because we don't know if it's going to happen. You
said there, and I remember every single night I feel bad about this,
But part of me was like every single night just thinking like I really don't
want to move to Lay. What's there for me in LA? I have
no friends there. But I was also thinking like live in LA could be
pretty cool. I mean I could run into like Adam Sandler on the street
just one day, depending on what part of La it was. Um you
wouldn't know as him because he didn't just like a Slibert. He just like
i'd recognize his face. I mean, he doesn't dress his like shames.
Have you ever seen him. No, he just dressed just shorts and whatever.
He just dresses exactly, but like he would. He would look like
he should. When the greatest movie starts in the world with the funniest guys
personally I think, and the greatest pick up basketball players because he looks like
any older guy. And La fitness just waiting to get called for runs at
a pick up basketball game because that's what he loves to do. But Uh,
the LA thing was was, um, there was an there was an
opportunity. They flew me out to La. It was to be in on
It was completely different type of show UM that I was doing. And I,
you know, the talk thing is where I was doing some primarily,
and then I had switched to music and I wasn't as successful there. I
think we got it. I think things went up, but they I don't
know that they went where I wanted them too. And then this opportunity came
and it would be they were taking a woman who had been with Rickty's and
then Ryan Seacrest had given her her own show, and they wanted someone who
could produce and be sort of the sidekick on the show, and they wanted
someone that was going to bring edge, that was their thing. They wanted
someone which is why they picked who's more edgy than Well, there's a lot
of Rochester, New York. There's a lot, but I'm sure there's Nettie
that they could find, right, So I went out there and then it
did. It seemed like that that the job was it was pretty much going
to be mine, and but it came down to a money issue and there
wasn't much of a pay increase. And to have the five of us in
LA or yeah, I think it was. Jamison was around, Jameson was
born. He was that was. It was like, I go, I
kind of can't do it. And the answer back to me was, well,
you're b in LA. You could do a game show, you could
do a stand And I'm like, yeah, but that's not guaranteed. You
know what I'm saying. The opportunity is there, but right so I have
people that are depending on me, and I you know, you're taking me
to a city that's way more expensive, and I understood the budget was this
for that, and I get it. I wasn't that it just didn't fit,
so I didn't go m But I part of the reason you couldn't talk
about was there was a non disclosure agreement at the time. I think it
was like a five year thing at the time that you couldn't talk about it
or whatever. I was always thought it was such bullshit anyway, because you
know, no one gave a fuck. But what they were more concerned about
was they didn't want the competition to know that she was going to get her
own show and eventually they were going to do some syndicated stuff, and they
didn't want anybody to know there was going to be changes to Ryan seacrest syndicated
show that because she was part of that, and I get it. So
whatever. It's just there's always these fucking secrets everywhere. It's like, and
I understand, I do totally because you don't need the questions and things.
And I say it to people all the time, if there's something you really
want to do, just shut your mouth and tell nobody and do it.
And it's sort of the same thing, except in business, you want to
some people have to know because there are moves going on, and so I
had to sign all these papers. But no, in the end, and
I think it was probably better. The day that I was out there,
I was supposed to have breakfast with some guy and it was one of the
believe it or not, it was one of the worst days in LA traffic
history. Oh, this guy canceled the meeting because he was coming to work.
It got on the expressway and an hour later could still see the ramp
in his rear view mirror and goes, I just I have to go home
and work because I'm never going to get there. Would have taken till noon,
so he and all that stuff would have been bad. And I don't
know where we would have lived for the amount of money. I mean,
there are parts of LA that are nice that a salary. You know what
I'm saying, and who I think in the end it was it was a
better choice, I think for the family overall. But that would just be
my thing. Why don't we take one more break, come back through a
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com. The song coming out up or Stubus driver Jackson's got range in his
musical taste for Skillet to Brooks and Dunna. Like what I like? I
like what I like? So Jackson, the plan is to get into lawn.
Yes, what did you always want to do when you were a little
kid? Do you remember what you wanted to do? Uh? Wanted to
be a roboticist. When I was really a roboticist. I remember you you
were making a time machine at one point. Yeah, I was really in
a minute man. It was a Disney Channel original. It was Yeah,
that's why I want to make that machine. I didn't remember that, but
I I always thought you were very creative and could do things and a good
storyteller. Uh you write really well, right, I mean I've always had
a talent for writing. You really did. I mean even in college.
That was some of the stuff that that really blew me away, was how
well you you wrote and what a great storyteller you are. You know,
you could do uh lots of things. As this company grows, can maybe
we can find something for you to do as a side hustle, so to
speak. And then you want to go to law school. Yep, Well
I don't think that's lame. I just I think it's it's pretty challenging.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I talked to somebody who did their
first year you B and said, uh, it was one of the hardest
things I've ever done. It's like learning a new language, which I think,
with with you, sounds like it could be a lot of fun.
I mean I've always done a lot of really challenging shit. Yeah, nothing
I have. I don't think I've really done. No, you have.
You have, You've you've pushed I mean both you guys have pushed yourselves.
I mean you you certainly did it with you know, your your track stuff
and weightlifting and U academics and all of it. Yeah, so I know,
I know, I think it's great. I think it's wonderful. I
think I think pushing yourself in where you want to go is a great thing.
You know, no limits. I like that. What were some of
the funnier things? Do you remember any funny stuff when we were kids,
when you were kids, when I was I remember one time I think I
turned nine or ten, and it was you were on the breaker at the
time, okay, and you guys said, what's the worst word you can
say? At nine? I think it was Yes, we were on the
air, and I remember that I said crap, and you guys said that's
not so bad, and then I said all right. I was like,
all right, ask for it. So I said fuck, And then Mom
said you could. He was watching the stream in the other room and you
can just see Danny dive for the censorship. Yeah. I think we all
laughed for that one. Well, yes we did. Yeah, I think
I did. I asked you what's the worst for it? Yeah, because
I would call you guys on your birthdays and stuff. Yeah. Now,
tomorrow you guys are gonna do a pub crawl, and we're thinking during the
plan, we're thinking during the podcast, we may call you a few times
to see how you're pub cross going. What time one of those things?
Probably around four? Yeah, that'll work because we're probably gonna headed to a
Chester cat by then. I don't know what the I don't know, we're
gonna figure it out, but I remember that actually reminds me of something I've
seen a lot on social media, And I think would be really funny is
um people will go to like weddings or certain events or certain nights out and
they'll record themselves and they'll be like, I like, they'll say their name
and this is my first drink of the night. Yes, And then dude,
I've seen that too, counting through like up to like twelve twenty drinks
in the night. By the time they get to like nineteen, they can
barely speak. Yeah, that's and then the last one it's not okay,
and it's not as fun anymore, well for me, for you, Yeah,
because I can see where you would want to get buzzed, right,
yeah, and then and then just maintain that, but not where you're out
of control, not where you could potentially get yourself hurt physically hurt by falling
down or hit by a car because you didn't you weren't paying attention, And
not where you could get yourself in any kind of trouble because you're saying stuff
or maybe um overly affectionate, which could certainly be misinterpreted by you know,
bigger guys. I used to say that to you all the time. You
know, when you're out you got to be careful because you're one of the
biggest people in the in the bar, are going to be the one they
see. You're gonna be the one they try to pick a fight with.
And then you got you know, muscles over here, who can be a
little bit of a mouth himself. A little bit of a mouth. Gets
that from his mom, but you know, get that from my mom.
Oh oh, okay, says the guy who makes a living off his mouth.
Okay, yeah, it was a joke. It was a joke.
Conversation. Um, well, I've I've enjoyed this. Some of it was
a little insightful. I don't I hope things were good for you. I
hope you had a nice foundation. I always worried about that, and I
think, you know, certainly as the dynamic changed, it was a concern
and I feel like it wasn't entirely level at times, if we're talking foundation.
But yeah, I don't know, I mean, and it wasn't good.
We were We came out okay, it came out on the other side
a little crooked, but you know, figured it out, you did,
Yeah, I did straighten it out. Which one do you think? Who
do you think is the funnier one? Out of the two of you,
see naturally, I have to say me, Yeah, I mean you're both.
He is funny, You're the funny, do you guys. You guys
have both had your moments even here on the podcast the other night. I
mean, you were very funny, and you've had some funny moments when you've
been on before too. I've enjoyed watching you two this weekend because I haven't
seen you as adults together, and it's been fun for you to It's been
fun for me to see that it's funny. Not much has changed. The
only thing is instead of a soda bottle, we have a hard soda bottle.
Yeah, I know, but I mean, Jackson is just exhausted.
I don't know what it is. Honestly, it's probably because you didn't sleep
last night. I slept hardly. I slept to like what ten in the
morning. What are you talking about? We got home at mid at like
eleven thirty, I like ten hours of sleep. Yeah, But then as
soon as we got back to my apartment before coming here, you passed out
on the couch. That's all right? Yeah? Which is more lending presents
because I think it is so not even that it's lump, it's like it's
is like the leather. I don't know. It's a crappy couch. I
got it for free, that's what that's what you get what you pay for.
I mean, are you you're saving your money? You want to have
furniture and everything. I'm probably gonna go to either their Shapher Kike's list.
I found some good, leady voice that's better than where I got mine.
I get worried about the buying somebody else's furniture. See I didn't even pay
for it. I get worried about using Craigslist. But what for anything?
Yeah? For why? Well that I don't know. It's just got a
rep. You know. You can meet a lot of really crazy people on
there. So that's so they say, Yeah, what was the scariest moment
in your life at any point? Have you had any really scary moments?
Which time? I mean, I've died, I've almost died so many times.
Will give me one? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, um hm,
this wasn't really scary, but more so shocking because I only saw the video
of it and I wasn't there. But when that guy crashed into our tree
at the old house, Oh, Jackson. Jackson was there, Yes,
Jackson, we were. We were taping. It was Halloween, and I
happened to be in the garage and I always had a little flipcam with me
all the time. So I see Jackson coming out and Jackson starts ranting as
soon as he gets off the bus about this weather better or not cancel Halloween
because I want to go get some candy. And he's doing this whole thing,
and I go, this is too funny because he was emphatic, he
was serious, he had I mean, he had it down. This was
a he was just letting it all out, looking whether ruining Halloween for a
young kid, and what were you in fourth grade? Fifth grade? I
think it was in third grade, third grade. It sounded like it sounded
like listening to the old O'rightley factor. He was just so on a point
he was. Then all of a sudden, this kid comes down from the
high school and they used to use our street as a cutthrough, So he's
coming from Mendon High School in Pittsford, comes down and hit some wet leaves
as he's speeding down this street. Right because there was a four way stop
there. You didn't have it ours kind of looped through the four way stop.
You could cut it off. He loses control and all of a sudden
you hear the wheels screeching, and then he hits takes out the mailbox,
slides across the lawn and stops short of this giant tree in the front yard.
And he stopped short or did he hit the stop stop short? It
just like he and he did it all wrong, like you should have you
know, you start spinning and fishtailing one way, you should go the other
way. But whatever. The kid. So, the kid comes across the
lawn and I am going, holy shit, and Jackson goes running out there,
hey hey, And everybody used to make fun of me because in the
video, and you can see it's on my YouTube, I'm the only one
asking if he goes, hey, hey, are you okay? Because I'm
going, what an idiot? And the dog's barking. There's mail everywhere,
It's all over the place, and then jack said, Jackson goes over to
check the mail. The guy goes out. Kid's like, hey man,
I'm sorry about your mail, and Jackson's like, I don't worry about It's
just bills. It's all over the lot. And then uh, yeah,
dude, I was just thankful that you weren't at the mailbox. If very
well could have been you. You know, we would send your kids out
to get the mail. And I don't even know where I was that day.
Man. It's I mean, yeah, that was a that's something that
that was a scary moment. Have you had any real scary moment? I
would say when the close have ever come was when I was working on a
landscaping company and I said, the ramps wrong on the on the trailer and
the game and this guy his name was Booby Boobie Booby Booby Booby, not
Bobby. I'm not, I'm not. I don't work there anymore. The
point is, hey, he was driving on the thing and it tipped back
and almost scrushed. He's finding Bobby and Mike's heart afterwards. But he escaped
just a gash. The thing itself was fucked. I got a picture on
my phone I'll show you later of the machine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was. I was not fired, as it were. But he
didn't text me back. That's so he goes in. He's our next door
neighbor. Now he is well down one house over nagor you ever have you
seen him? Yeah, unfortunately I haven't talked to him. I'm not going
to. Well, like I deserved to be fired, but he didn't fire
me. He just ghosted me. So I got no respect for him.
Well the other individually, you know, I think that sometimes it's tough.
I think if you just if you went up to him and just said,
hey, I'm sorry this. You know, I don't owe him that you've
ruling the equipment. Okay, he well, anyway, Yeah, that's fine.
I got a two hundred dollars last check. I'm never gonna see so
I think we're pretty much even. Um. And then for you, was
it the summer you got run over by jet ski? No? Not really
seriously, No, there was one worse that happened when I was much younger.
When I was eight years old, I was down at the creek behind
Park Road Elementary School with Jordan, Joey and Bobby because we had been building
like a little boat raft thing just in the park with random shit that we
found. We'd take tools from our parents' houses and use them. But if
you ever wondered where your hammers went missing, that's where I like this.
I actually love hearing this story because it makes me go good. I like
it. I like is good that we were on our way, I think
out or down and I got stung. I got stung by a bee and
I had my EpiPen on me, but I couldn't fucking bring myself to stab
myself. Yeah, so I know no one there. I hopped on my
bike and rode home, but my chain popped before I could even leave.
Jordan Elio was trying to get me to hop on his bike. I eventually
was like fuck that, flipped it over, put it back on, took
off probably the fastest I've ever done anything in my life. And I came
home through the EpiPen at Mom and said stab me or I'm dead, And
she looked at me and she's like, what the hell happened. I'm like,
I'm crying, I'm holding back tears. I'm like, I got stung,
and I'm hardly breathing because you know, I just did the worst thing
you can do, which is spike your Yeah, sure, everything is going,
it moves to your body faster. And I sat down. Mom pulled
me over, sat me down in the counter and stuck me. And then
all my friends had to come and see me like violently shaking like a tweaker.
Yeah, I remember that that one I do or not and they saw
it well, yeah, because you had come home in the middle of that.
Yeah, I remember one of the kids coming to the door to check
on it. Yeah, it was Jordan got there first, and then Joey
and Bobby followed because he rode back faster than the other two. And they
all walked in, and Mom, I think you walked up to the door
let them in. And then when I was sitting there, Mom got up
and like walked them outside and we're like, yeah, he's fine. I
know he looks like he's dying, but he's not. Now he's gonna be
okay. And that was probably the scariest because like, I couldn't do the
one thing that was I was supposed to do that the doctors trained me on
how to do. I just couldn't do it in the moment. I don't
I don't blame me on any of that, I think, Um, yeah,
I don't know. I mean I blame myself. Being allergic to bees
was bad. Yeah, you should probably get tested for allergies again. I
just see if there's some stuff that you've outgrown and I don't know, but
yeah, that was scary. That was scary. That was probably the scariest.
All right, fellas, it has been a pleasure and what a depressing
ending. No, it's kind of I mean, I know, I think
it's fine. I love I loved you. I love that you were out
making a raft in the in the stream. I think that's awesome. I
didn't know any of that. That's to me, that's the greatest for Jackson
Jordan's I'm their dad, Bill, We'll see tomorrow. I didn't know what
to do.