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Bram. It's bilified the Bill Moran
Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.

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Thanks for getting your pot on,
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how

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we spread the word about the pirate
ship. Oh, a special one today.

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We've had a one on one with
Jordan. We've done a one on

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one with Jamison, and I asked
Jackson to come in. But then Jordan

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is hanging out that you guys have
been together and you're only sixteen months apart,

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so I thought it'd be kind of
fun. But we would talk a

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little bit with you and then find
out about the two of you growing up

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and shenanigans that went on that maybe
I as your father, we're not aware

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of. I'm not sure if that's
uh, if that even happened, I

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don't know. I don't I don't
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you don't think if you don't.
You guys eventually found out about everything.

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So all right, So how have
things been going for you? You're down

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in Alabama, you are working at
a car part place. Yeah, well

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I don't know exactly know what it
is. They make car parts for Toyota.

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Yeah, for Massa Toyota, Massa
Toyota. Okay, and then you're

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in the warehouse there and you're doing
what kind of work. I just stand

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on like a machine called a tugger, and I pull car parts around to

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a designated parking area until someone pulls
them into another designated parking area to take

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them to the actual factory. Okay, my entire job is this just just

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thumbs, Yeah, doing unless I
have to get out and like pull the

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racks. So you're driving a forklift
and it's not a forklift. It's like,

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God, I should have run a
picture. But yeah, but do

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you ever race them with the other
guys when no one's looking? No,

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no, not anymore. They took
off all the past settings they did.

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Yeah, so now our job gets
done at half the rate. Yeah,

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but are you hourly? Know your
salary hourly? So that's all right,

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yeah, but it takes longer.
Yeah, and then you you before that

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job, and then he decided to
keep it as kind of a part time

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job. You're a waiter. How
how is that? What have you learned

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from being a waiter. Uh,
you think you've learned anything? Did you

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learn anything about like people or interactions? Or yes, I learned learned that

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some people well just cannot be satisfied
no matter how well the service is.

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Yeah, give me an example of
something that might have happened to you.

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One guy. I told you about
the guy who tried to fight me?

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Right, No, Oh, tell
everybody how tall you are. I'm six

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seven and this beheam of the guy
sits down, and it's a state law

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in Alabama that I have to check
your idea no matter how old you are.

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I think it's a state law here
is. Well, I've seen them

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do it at Wegman. You worked
at Wagman's. Don't they have to do

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that to state law everywhere? Yeah, if you sell alcohol, you have

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to check right, Okay, all
right, Well, I so I checked

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this guy. Let's check this guy's
I d and he says, I don't

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have it with me. And so
I crossed the bud light, off my

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mit, off my little notepad.
He asked, if there's a soft hand

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get him. He looks at his
wife and display says, so you're not

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gonna bring me a beer? I
said, it's a state law. Well,

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there's nothing I can do. The
guy slams his menu down, says,

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let's go tell to me to go
fuck myself. As I'm walking away,

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and he's I turned on and say
what in disbelieving He's like, you

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yelled at me, boy, you
yell like he's a fit. I'm frozen.

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It just to out of confusion more
than fear. Yeah, because no

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one has ever stepped to me like
this before. Okay. And then finally

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my coworker steps in, like,
nope, get out here, crass c

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she's calling for a manager and she
and the lady picks up there one year

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old child and says, we're leaving. We're leaving. That's the worst part

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of the whole thing. He did
in front of his baby. Yeah,

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the baby's too young to remember,
but I mean it is a behavior that'll

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probably could be done again. Yeah
I can again for that that child.

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Like you don't get me wrong,
I love beer more than anybody, but

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I don't need Like if I can't
have it, that's like, why didn't

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you have your idea with you if
you're driving on the road. One guy,

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he was an Air Force veteran.
He you'll see why I brought that

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up. In a second, he
he didn't have any thing to drink,

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but his wife wanted one, and
she didn't have her idea with her.

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So he goes out to their truck
and brings back a framed picture from their

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wedding in nineteen seventy something. He
said, dude, I need a What

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do you want me to say that
you gotta be smart to get in the

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Air Force? Did you say that? Damn? I wanted to. They

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brought a frame picture in. How
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not proofs you can drive it?
Yeah? Yeah, that is strange.

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And another lady had hers expire in
twenty eighteen, and then she I told

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her I can't take that expire.
So I don't go away like I'm not

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the idiot. Yeah, well,
I get it, because people don't like

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to be told what they can and
can't do, especially you know when you're

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of age and you you just want
to have a drink. And this is

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getting ridiculous and silly and and that
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I mean, right, what are
you doing over there? Mom texted me,

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I'm also going to apply to a
guest to Bucky's stun South. So

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yeah, they want to picture of
my resume. Okay, Guest station attendants

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make like twenty one an hour there? Really? Yeah at BUCkies? At

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BUCkies. Yeah. Tell me about
being a waiter and you're in the South.

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What's the what is the going what
do you get paid at? What's

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this hourly rate for a waiter in
the South? Dick Well? Okay?

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Two eight two dollars and forty eight
cents? Yes, so really it's a

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job that goes on tips. Did
you do well? Yeah? I was

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actually making more money on average there
than the car place. But the car

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place has insurance. So yeah,
right, so you got the insurance and

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you got that, and uh,
do you like it? Do you like

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these things? I do? I
do like the service industry. It's what

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I want to retire in too.
I just don't like the drug because some

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of the girls are they just so
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act like they're still in high school
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What would be a high school to
you? What's what does that mean?

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What's what's that drama? Bitchy and
clicky and you know what you mean?

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And then my boyfriend whatever, like
yeah, bringing personal work. Yeah,

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and then they take sides to like
the second hot like they can be

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sea words to me all day long. With the second, I stand up

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for myself and I'm kind of a
dick back then I'm then I'm the bad

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guy. Yeah, I'm just I'm
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when like co workers will start having
those type of conversations and you they come

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at you a little bit and you
try and joke back, and then as

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soon as you do that, they
get offended. It's like, why joke

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in the first place. If you
can't if you can't take, you can't

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take, right, So, uh, talk to me about um. And

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I wanted to get the cameras going, so maybe, uh, maybe I'll

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pause here for a second. Then
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the cameras? Yeah, sure,
Yeah, we went over because I know

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you want to be of serve,
not worth so much in the service instry,

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but of service. So I had
just introduced you to the police chief

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of where we do the show from
in Fairport, New York, Matt Barnes,

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Chief Matt Barnes, And I think
it, I mean, if that's

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what you want to do. You
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We'll find that out in just just
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dot com. I'm just a step
away, I'm just a brother away.

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In my say I am, Jackson
said that's probably his favorite song, Skillets

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Hero. Yeah, even like that
since you were like eleven I have Yeah,

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me and Kate were listening to it
in DC. Oh really yeah.

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Now, Jackson has a very um
sense of strong sense of family. You

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wanted to go. You went to
Ireland, And what was the reason for

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the trip to Ireland? At all
the countries in the world, why did

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you choose Ireland? We got family
there, We are strong groups there.

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So yeah, so you went to
Ireland because we had That's where a lot

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of most of my family is from. Like, yeah, probably all of

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it. Yeah, I met some
of them too. I know you met

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some family that's still over there that
has a farm. Did they take it

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to their pub. They didn't.
I think that's where we may have met

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them, but I'm not totally sure. Okay, what was that like?

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It was? It was like I
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with me. Then mom, Marge
is my mom? And why how are

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they? I don't know. They
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they were friendly. They were talking
about Marge's grandparents, like what she had,

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didn't know what shea murfy yes,
like this and that Murphy Murphy's Dolan's

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yeah, Dolan, Yeah, that's
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then uh and Miller, but that
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what was that trip? Like?
It was awesome? I'll never forget if

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Papa said it was one of the
best trips he's had in a while.

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Yeah, well that's because he went
with you. Yeah, Jordan would have

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been a different story. Oh poor
Jordan. But the so what over there?

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You get over there? Uh?
Did you feel like you sort of

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belonged? I didn't know why.
I mean, it's a familiarity, Yeah,

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the whole thing you did. Yeah, and because I have not banned

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to iron, not familiar anymore comfort
as comfort Like yeah, you kind of

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fit In and now you must have
stood out a little bit as to being

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one of the taller people on the
on the island of Ireland. Yeah,

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well there was a lot of tree. There was a lot there, a

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lot of a lot of well,
not a lot of tall people. More.

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I don't know how to say this. I'm just gonna come and see

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it. Yeah, a lot of
people of color, like more than we

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me and Bob expected in Ireland of
all places. Well, okay, I

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see what you're saying, Like,
yeah, because you would think traditionally the

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Irish are more like you and I. Yeah. Yeah, but there there

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is it is. It's become a
place for people around the world. It's

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high Dublin's a really international city and
they almost come and recruit from other countries

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to say, hey, come live
here, come work here, and there's

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a lot of young people. Does
that actually pay people to live there?

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Yes, they pay people to move
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of places can can do that.
But I mean, would you consider ever

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going to live over there? I
definitely would, Yeah, you would consider

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that. What would it take?
I don't I'm not sure. Just when

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I get done everything I want to
get done here and then we were there

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for like a year or two.
Yeah, what are the things you want

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to get done here? Because you
have plans? Like it's interesting to watch

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you because you planned out that trip
to Ireland. You wanted to get in

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touch and see family. You did
this whole thing. Uh. You you

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came here, you went to see
my sister and then took a train up

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to my mom and then from there
to here, and you had your money

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budgeted all the way, and you
knew what you wanted to do, and

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you you plan things pretty well.
So when you say I have things that

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I want to do here, what
are those things? Uh? Start my

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career in lawn for us? And
uh, you know, girls settled down

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and I don't maybe take the kids
over there for your your kids when you

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have kids? Yea yeah, uh
well that would be interesting. Uh have

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you have you well you have a
date, don't even while you're here?

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Yeah? Yeah, but no girlfriend
down there? No? No, no.

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I would say to be you know, have fun as long as you

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can just you know, Yeah,
wouldn't that be the I don't know if

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that's the wiser thing for you?
How has life been for you? Uh?

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You know, since you've been twenty
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of places I couldn't before. Yeah, I fit in. That's always it.

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when you when you think back to

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to growing up, how we're how
was it for you? Uh? I

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didn't really have a lot of friends
that I would go to hang out with.

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But I think that's really gotten better
now. Yeah, like I know

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the social dynamics of Yeah, I
think somewhere on my YouTube page there's you

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sitting at the end of the driveway
strumming a guitar with a with a classic

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top hat out. Oh it's so
cute. It was so cute. You

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were trying to make money as a
busker. Yeah, I'm downing in a

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residential street in not even like the
busiest part of town. Yeah, he's

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trying to panhandle in Pittsfurg. Not
a great idea, that's one of the

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Well was cute you were sitting at
the end of the driveway. Yeah.

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Not. You didn't know how to
play guitar, so you're just struggling thing.

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That was me money? Please,
But I I I found it.

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I found it endearing, and of
course I came out and tortured you with

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a camera in your face and had
video. Can you tell me like,

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um, you know, growing up
and a lot of times as a parent,

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Uh, you you're not your heads
somewhere else. Your head is in

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your work and getting you, guys
to where you need to be and what

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you need and that sort of thing. And I guess my question would be

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what would be your greatest memory growing
up? Do you have a memory that

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you sometimes pops into your head and
you go, that was really good,

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Well, that's that's that's a that's
scary. Do you remember any time that

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was like just happy for you or
what you enjoyed most, or oh,

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when we got Bella, when we
got Bella the Boxer, Yeah, yeah,

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that was probably one of your happiest
memories. Yeah, that was that

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was cute. And the Christmas picture
with you guys was very cute with when

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she was a puppy. Yeah,
that was maybe one of the saddest days

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for me when we had to put
Bella down. Bella got cancer and we

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had it removed and then they said, really, there's not much more you

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can do the other than cut it
out and just kind of wait. So

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we did that, and then Bella
did. We just had to put Bella

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down, and you went yeah,
and you held Bella as she kind of

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crossed over, and I remember looking
and watching as you're just hole hugging her

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on the floor. And then then
you took me outside while mom stay.

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Did actually give her the needle?
Oh? Okay, I couldn't remember what

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that was? Yeah I did,
didn't I? Yeah, I'm sure I

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was super comforting too. What did
I say? I don't remember. Do

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you remember? Yeah? I remember? What did I say? You didn't

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say anything. You just took me
outside. Did I give you a hug

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or anything? We just walked around
the bonds did I give I didn't give

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you a hug or probably? I
don't know. Okay, I would like

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to think i'd be you know,
I just remember seeing I can see it

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in my mind, and it was. It was a tough thing. So

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the happiest memory Bella probably one of
the saddest memories when when Bella left.

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You know, George Carlin, who
was who wasn't it was a comedian.

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I used to say that a pet
is just a future tragedy, you know,

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That's all. That's all it is, Uh, all right? So

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how about you know, like being
a little guy, do you have anything?

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Do you remember anything there? Playing
soccer, running around friends, remember

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soccer, trampoline. That's the biggest
thing for me. Yeah, thank you?

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And uh the Christmas that you fell
off the play set. I hit

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your head. Story so often you
do? All right? Tell it now?

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All right? So I so we
the summer beforehead, for whatever reason,

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tied up a pink construction to string
around our jungle gym, and this

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Christmas rolls around. I want to
get down the slide because I don't know.

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I'm seven, I don't have I
want to do things. So I

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started swinging from it like it's a
square support, like it's a square railing.

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So I started stringing, swinging from
it to cut it so I can

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get through to the slide. No
part of me at that time thinks to

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factory in gravity, so I fall
back. I hit my head on support

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me. I'm like, damn,
this sucks. So I start walking.

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I feel something warm and wet dripped
down the back of my head. I

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put my hand back there to see
what it is, and I'm wearing a

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black leve I don't know what I'm
looking at. I turned around red snow.

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I went inside screaming. Next thing
I know, Mom's dragging me to

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the er. Apparently Pop she took
him to She took me to go see

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papa because Papa was there and he
was an EMT for five years. He

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said, yeah, you gotta go
to the hospital. Yeah, so Mom

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takes me the hospital. I guess
every three kid in Western New York Side

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have an accident on this seed because
the place is packed generally a general I

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need no NAC. The anaesthesiologist is
nowhere to be found. Some monk.

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I was like, like, fuck
it, let's just pump pump him into

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it. But I'll talk him through
it. We got a house full of

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people. Well she wait, they
were gonna give you hang timeout time out.

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Was it anesthesia or some kind of
numbing agent? I don't think there

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was no there. I think it
was anesthesia, she says. The anesthesiologist

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wasn't there, so okay, Well
they may be the ones to do the

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numbing agent either. I don't know, but okay, so talks me through

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it, and what do they do? Staple spunchunch kung? How was that?

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How do you think it was?
There? Still no sull It sucks

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yeah. It hurts like crazy.
Yeah, and so Mom talks me through

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it. We're back. Could you
hear it echoing in your head? No,

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like you know what I mean,
Like you hit your head and it

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kind of it's almost like, wow, it's not hollows. I don't No.

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I would work for him, but
I'm just wondering what the uh yeah,

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okay, well that's uh. I
do remember the staples. I don't

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think I knew there was no numbing
agent there. Well, it was no

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numbing agent. Then. I do
remember you built a um a ramp because

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the side of the garage became very
low. It was three two and a

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half car garage, yes, and
the side of it was the roof was

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very low, and there was a
concrete patio over there, yes, And

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so you built a snow ramp up
to the roof. And I had left

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a ladder out, so you climbed
up the ladder. I climbed up the

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air conditioning units. And that's how
we all used to get up on the

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roof when we were kids. We
would climb on the unit and pull ourselves

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up. And I was really into
Calvin and Hobbs, so I was going

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to slide off the roof and onto
the snow bank with with the sled.

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Yes, but the sled got I
can instead of myself. So I tried

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to set the sled got away from
me, and I'm thinking, okay,

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she should probably get down the air
conditioning unit, but I didn't want to

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break it. Okay, so I'd
seeing it's not too far, and it

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wasn't too far. It was probably
up to that what that mirror is now.

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Yeah, sure, if I had
landed right, probably would have.

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But I didn't land right. So
I broke my foot in five places.

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Well, you broke your toes,
and we took you somewhere and they were

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fractures, but it's hard to see
in the toes and they're very painful.

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Also, urgent care is not very
good when it comes to like, yeah,

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so then we took you somewhere else
and that's where it came out fracture.

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But you laid in the snow screaming
for help for a while, and

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if your mother had gone to the
launching room, no one would have found.

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You know, that makes you feel
very unlove. Yes, thanks for

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laughing at it, but no,
so they said, yeah, he's fine,

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So they Urgent Care said I'm fine, So we just sent me on

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my way. The thin blue balloons
up and turns purple. Mom like,

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yeah, you're not fine. We're
gonna you are. Doctor says, Yeah,

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this thing's broken in five places and
he was walking out on it for

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five days. If he ever exhibits
any discomfort, get here. This kid's

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got a pain taller and so like
I've never seen. Yeah, So they

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gave so, they said it.
They gave me a boot, and it

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healed up just fine. Yeah,
only for a summer to roll around it

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and I only almost sever it in
swamp. Yeah, and what swamp?

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A lollipop farm? Oh god,
I remember that too. I remember that.

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Oh god, that was what your
buddy, Gavrie. Yeah right,

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wow, Yeah, there were some. You had a couple of doozies there.

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Yeah. They never broken. No, no, and no real injuries

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sports wise or anything like that.
I mean, Jordan had a lot of

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concussions, but you didn't. You
didn't have any of that kind of stuff.

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It's kind of ironic that he broke
his skull but didn't cause any like

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get a concussion from that or anything
damage. Maybe I didn't get any brain

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damage, damage damage, So,
uh, you know going through then he

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had Jordan with you and only sixteen
months behind you. That had to be

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Was it a good thing a bad
thing for you? I think it was

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a good thing. Yeah. I
mean did you kind of hang out together

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at school and stuff or we were
we were two grades apart, like he

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was he was in second grade,
I was in first grade. Yeah,

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a great apart and men didn't Yeah, because great apart for the old ones

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people I really knew. Yeah,
because like I remember, you would hang

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out with me and my friends,
because you know, I grew up with

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you, and you know, I
hung out with some of the friends you

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did have here and there, but
for the most part, my friends were

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always over at the house. Yeah. I think I got I got really

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got a really together when I went
to Strader. Yeah. Yeah, right

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when we moved out yea to Webster
and then we went that was the first

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time we hadn't gone to school together, Yeah, because Jordan at all,

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other than other than when mom home
schooled you before my freshman year. Yeah,

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and then that was the one time
where you went off and did your

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own thing. I had your own
friends, and I went off and did

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my own thing and had my own
friends. Right, it was weird.

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It was weird. It was weird
because we'd at least for me, I

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don't know if it was for you, but you know, we'd get home

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from school at different times. We
always had because I was in sports and

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stuff. But I was used to
getting a little bit of insight on some

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of the teachers from you because we
had a lot of the same teachers growing

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up, so you you would always
tell me what they were like before I

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had them. And then that wasn't
that wasn't the case when so you like

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Schrader better? Yeah, yeah,
what was it about that? I don't

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know, It's just better atmosphere,
I guess. Yeah, well I wasn't

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kids you grew up with, you
know, and a lot of times people

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will change and go to a different
high school than they did, you know,

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through the elementary years more or less, and uh that's usually helpful and

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healthy I think in a way.
Uh, but so you were I mean

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there was a change in the family
dynamic. Uh were you as senior then

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or junior senior? Yeah, because
I if you're talking about when you and

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yeah, yeah, yeah, that
was that was midway through my junior year

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of high school. I think so
not my No, it was junior year.

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Did we ever? Like we never? Really? I mean there was

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much to say, but uh,
how how was that for you? I

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mean I think I tried to talk
to you about it a few times and

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you were just like, yeah,
I was focused on my bs really,

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so I didn't really wasn't too much
affected by it. No, No,

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you know, not at all.
And then I mean, I mean it

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would be weird. I would I
would think, yeah, but you just

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seem to roll with stuff. Yeah, and have been rolling with it ever

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since. Yeah, nothing I can
do about it. I probably can't worked

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up over it. Well, I
think that's always a smart thing to do.

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Like, you know, what you
can control is what you should do,

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and you can control how you react
to things and your overall general attitude.

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Really you can control those things.
And the things that you can't control

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that you would get yourself upset about
aren't necessarily worth getting upset about, because

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um it just you know, it's
like what am I gonna do? Right?

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A lot of times, what am
I gonna do? And I've always

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I'm always sorry. I think the
probably the things that I and when I

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look back is, uh, there
were changes in my radio career at the

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time, and um, I was
a lot of change. Well there were

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there were changing. Some that were
ones I wanted and some were ones that

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I didn't really have control over either, you know, but one going from

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when WCMF got bought by another company
and I was part of that station and

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who was staying, who was going
and all that, and so, you

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know, I sometimes I wonder how
much I missed because I'll often think,

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I don't know that I remember certain
things, and I know I worked a

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lot. I remember that. Um
there would be days where I got home

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from school and you weren't home from
work yet. Or there'd be days where

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I'd get home from school and you
would be home from work. Yeah,

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you know, I remember our big
thing after you and mom split up was

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you would always pick me up after
school. Yeah, I would. I

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always try to make sure that that
was a deal. It's always helped that

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I was getting out at like four
or five o'clock. I think sometimes,

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yes, sometimes, but yeah,
because I was doing morning radio. But

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there was a lot there, and
I guess one of the things, like,

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you know, it's it's funny to
me because I said this to your

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aunt once and I said, I
think I'm good at starting things. You

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know, every single one of these
things, especially when you were little,

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whether it was somebody like a guy
who's in the Radio National Radio Hall of

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Fame. Brother, We's leaves that
station and you're left there in the rubble

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and you've got you know, everybody
believes it's just going to fall apart because

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he was and is a huge radio
personality that people flock to. Right,

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00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:30,559
So my I, what was I
going to do? So I just put

409
00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:36,240
my head down and worked and worked
and worked. And any I will say,

410
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:41,920
and almost to the detriment any format
I did, like what we're doing

411
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,079
here, where it was talk,
I took it from nothing to number one.

412
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,759
Every single time I did that,
no matter where it was. They

413
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:53,640
started a midday talk show and they
put me there with somebody and it went

414
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,920
to number one. There was nothing
there, So it's not like you're starting

415
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,160
out, you know, you're not. You're starting with a some semblance or

416
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,160
something. You're not you know,
the biggest personality in the leaves. We

417
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,119
took us a little while, but
we it got to number one. But

418
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,440
I'm all in on those things,
and I think sometimes when I look back

419
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,640
I go. Boy, I don't
know that I should have been Maybe I

420
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,119
should have been more. I don't
know if there was a more present with

421
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,599
you guys. I don't know.
I felt like at times I was,

422
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,359
but I know I would like I'd
hear some commotion out in the other room,

423
00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:29,000
because my office is a station's playroom, and I'd come out and I'd

424
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:30,920
probably yell. And you know,
do you remember at time, Jackson,

425
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,920
when we wrestled and we had put
down pulled up some of the carpet that

426
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,079
was in the basement and put down
just kind of this press board it looked

427
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:42,079
like. And then I had socks
on and we started to wrestle, and

428
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:48,160
you got me down and I couldn't. I totally lost my footing a little

429
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,200
bit. Yeah, you have a
little bit wherever. Yeah, I think

430
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,599
you. I don't even know if
you might have been fourteen at the time,

431
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:59,240
not that uh. And but you
would like to come back here,

432
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,160
why, I've just been homesick,
You've had three years. I feel like

433
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,559
this is a great place to like
start fresh on my own. Yeah.

434
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:10,039
Is that a big thing for you
to start fresh on your own? Yeah?

435
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,640
Yeah, Well, and I have
noticed with you that I think,

436
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:21,079
um, a lot of times,
you know, as kids, you're we

437
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,960
all do this. I did it
with you guys, and my parents probably

438
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,240
try to do with me, try
to direct you in certain areas. And

439
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:32,920
yet I think you kind of find
where your strength and interests are and you

440
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,279
know, doing the things you I
mean, going out to be the waiter

441
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,880
when you were more of a quiet, reserved guy with something and man,

442
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:45,279
you made it work. Were there
difficulties in that for you a little bit?

443
00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,759
Yeah, in the in the beginning. Yeah, but you I mean

444
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,839
seemed to rise to the occasion when
when when I went in there, the

445
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,880
restaurant you worked at, and everybody
seemed to love you. Yeah. Yeah,

446
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,200
so that's a thing. Just wait
till we get busy. Why because

447
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,559
that's when they did not like me. Why, I don't know. They

448
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:11,160
no, I was fine. I
was just going with the mo is shins.

449
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,759
They couldn't keep up. I guess, I don't know who couldn't keep

450
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:15,400
up. People who would run into
like saying, hey, hot food on

451
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:21,160
your left, and they would just
stand there. Oh oh, And then

452
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,920
one of the kitchenmans would yell at
me and say, say, I know

453
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,039
we've had completely being aggressive like that's
a pot calling the guy. She's the

454
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:32,640
I'm not even gonna get into it. But that being said, people have

455
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,599
said, hey, if you're not
running food, got the kitchen, But

456
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:38,559
the second I do it, I'm
an asshole. Yeah. I think sometimes

457
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:42,799
when you were and I used to
always think this with you, was that

458
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:49,680
you were always tall. You're six
to seven now, and I think when

459
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,440
you're the biggest person, people can
see who it is and they want to

460
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,640
That's why I used to always think, like with you, if you were

461
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,880
fooling around in class, even if
it was some mother kid that might have

462
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,920
instigated it or started it, you're
pointing at me that you're gonna You're gonna

463
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,079
be the one to get in trouble
only because you're the one that we can

464
00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:14,000
see doing it. You're bigger,
and your movements are and the term would

465
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,880
be grosser, not grosser in disgusting, but grosser and larger because you move

466
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,240
bigger. You're a bigger guy.
So if I turn around and I and

467
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:25,160
I hear somebody going hey, and
I see Jackson doing something which may be

468
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,160
in retaliation to somebody else who started
it, you're the guy that's gonna get

469
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,960
in trouble and that was I used
to say that to you all the time,

470
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:33,680
like you got to be careful because
you're the you're the tallest one,

471
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,039
they're the You're the one they're gonna
see. Literal elephant in the room.

472
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:42,200
Ladies and gentlemen, Jackson, you
seem a little tired today. I want

473
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,519
a little more pep in your step. What's going on? I take it

474
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,920
aired Do you need a drink or
something? I don't. I don't know.

475
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,720
Maybe, uh, well take a
moment. Cobblestone on Maine and Webster

476
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,720
Delicious food out there. You know. I I love going out there because

477
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:02,359
they have a big bar and I'd
like to sit at the bar and eat.

478
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,160
We've done that at a couple of
different places, but that bar is

479
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,359
fantastic. It's owned by Dan Bresnahan
and his family. It's an old cobblestone

480
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,680
church that they've renovated. It's fantastic
and when you get in there, it's

481
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,680
just this warm, cool atmosphere.
They've got live music that's usually right in

482
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,039
the window there. If you wanted
a more quiet dinner, you can sit

483
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,039
in the back and you can't really
hear the music. It's almost like just

484
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,400
music being pumped in because of the
Cobblestone's two cobblestone buildings, and man,

485
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,559
that's soundproof. They got a party
room downstairs that you can rent. It's

486
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,039
up to forty five people. And
the great thing is it has its own

487
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,799
entrance. So let's say you're doing
a retirement party. Instead of having to

488
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:40,359
bring in the cake and the balloons
everything through the main part of the restaurant,

489
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:42,240
you have your own area to do
that and you don't have to worry

490
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,000
about possibly dropping the cake. There's
nothing worse than having the retirement cake flipped

491
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:51,359
over a graduation cake or whatever anniversary. But it's always a good time,

492
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,960
great craft cocktails, great atmosphere,
great staff. It is Cobblestone on Main.

493
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:57,960
You'll find them at one on nine
West Main Street in the village of

494
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:07,559
Webster, and he's Rochester Jimmys's Plates
and Shakes. They are rocking Brockport.

495
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,599
And you know what, they could
rock your next watch party of any kind.

496
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,920
They could bring the food truck out
and then when everybody's tired they need

497
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,119
a little protein pick me up,
they can go out there and get a

498
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,960
nice cheeseburger. I got one with
a chicken tender on top. Oh so

499
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:25,279
good. Yeah, they and then
your son had the pilot chicken tenders.

500
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:29,200
But the food truck is fantastic and
it'll come for any event if you're having

501
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,240
a corporate picnic, a graduation party, grand opening, oh, grand opening.

502
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:36,160
And they even have pick up and
drop off catering. And you can

503
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,240
find out all the information about all
that at Plates and Shakes dot com so

504
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:44,200
Main Street in Brockport Wednesday through Sunday, and then Plates and Shakes dot com

505
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,160
for the food truck and drop off
and pick up catering with Jimmy's E's Plates

506
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,160
and Shakes, Victor Chrysler Dodge Jeep
Ram Route ninety six in Victor and online

507
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,799
at Victor C. D jr dot
com. Well Conry's Irish Pub. All

508
00:32:57,839 --> 00:33:00,319
the boys were there today for lunch, really great lunch. Yeah, and

509
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:04,960
then you had the liquid lunch afterwards. I had to have to follow it

510
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:08,559
up with the little little liquid lunch. When you walk into Mulconners the seventeen

511
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:12,480
Libridge, Laney East, you feel
the warmth and the friendliness. It really

512
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,519
is the closest thing I've ever seen
to a like a traditional Irish pub.

513
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:20,720
Now I say that having never been
to Ireland, but Jackson has been to

514
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,279
Ireland, but have been over to
England and where they have Irish pubs as

515
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:27,359
well, and they are that darker
wood and it's set up like that.

516
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,920
And in New York City you'll see
some old Irish pubs. It's very similar

517
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,599
to that. So you get that
nice feel. It's a great warm atmosphere.

518
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,559
The food is fantastic, and get
something like the Mulconnres Burger, which

519
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,839
would be the American cuisine, or
you can have Shepherds Bye and it's always

520
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:42,680
good. I think my father had
the Shepherd's Pie when he was did he

521
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,079
did and he loved it. And
of course if you're into Wings, they

522
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:47,799
got that football season not far away
with the best coming back for training camp.

523
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:52,839
Always a good place to catch the
game and get those Guinness gold Wing

524
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,960
saucer if you dare, try the
Ghost Chili pepper sauce on your wings.

525
00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:00,319
And they have some live music.
Always check out Mulconnres dot com and follow

526
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:06,200
them on all the socials Instagram,
Facebook, Twitter, mul Connery's Ivers Pub,

527
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:15,119
seventeen Lippards Lane, Eastern Fairport and
online at mulconries dot com not Gabe

528
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:20,760
blood Sana can online. You know
the brothers at Canda denied and when the

529
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,039
girl lucks in any video, stand
around, dun in your face, you

530
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:30,440
get sprung, you get from good
scrub. I played that for you because

531
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:37,679
it's Elvis, Elvis. This is
actually artificial intelligence, Elvis real, Yes,

532
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,559
artificial intelligence. Baby got back to
listen, Hannah kind of don't want

533
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:49,199
none? Do you ever here?
Baby got back? Yeah? Oh,

534
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,639
all this is AI AI. Do
you do you ever use check GPT at

535
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:57,480
all? I did? Yeah?
For what talk right into that micrutly,

536
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:01,199
so um I would use Is it
to help me when I was stuck on

537
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,760
homework? Yeah, not to turn
in the answers, but just to see,

538
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,960
well it writes too flowery? I
think I think it writes too flowery

539
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,079
in certain situations. But I think
it's a great thing if you get writer's

540
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:17,079
block. And I was even talking
to a former New York Times reporter who

541
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:20,840
said the same thing. If you
have a writer's block or you're trying,

542
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,840
or even even a joke of phraseology
of something, chat GPT can can be

543
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,840
helpful. I I you know,
I hear all these things about AI,

544
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,079
and I'm a big believer in um
you you can't put the genie back in

545
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:37,840
the bottle, right so that it's
it's coming anyway, So how can you

546
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,800
embrace it and use it to it
to help you not hurt you? And

547
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,679
I know people are saying, well, it's gonna put a lot of people

548
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:47,239
out of work. Uh yeah,
But there's a theory in life. It's

549
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,000
called adapter die. Adapter die and
it sucks. It sounds harsh, it

550
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,360
sounds cold, but it's really the
truth. I mean, look at anything

551
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,760
you know in the in the world, and that's the way it is.

552
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,800
I think in the medical world it's
never going to replace a doctor, but

553
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,960
it could certainly help make them more
accurate. The problem with chat GBT is

554
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,159
it's only as smart as the people
putting the information in. It'll learn from

555
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:13,000
repetition and doing things over and over
and seeing more data come in. But

556
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:16,119
you know, especially with health,
how far our knowledge goes is as far

557
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:20,320
as it's really can go, at
least in the beginning, and I don't

558
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,440
know from there, but we'll see. Do you follow any of that stuff?

559
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,760
Yeah, sometimes I see it on
my feed. I'm not really into

560
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:30,639
Oh yeah, I think so.
If you had um, and we'll talk

561
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,880
about both of you guys. Now
that you have alcohol, probably perky up

562
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,880
a little bit because you went down
to family and I think you're hungover,

563
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,599
and you were not hungover. I
think you're not willing. I don't think

564
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:45,320
you would. The biggest thing is
we did not get home until really late

565
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:51,840
from Lockwood because we didn't even leave
there until eight thirty. And that's one.

566
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,960
You just stay another night. You
couldn't. We could have. We

567
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:58,679
just decided enough, it's enough.
Any one on like over stay right now.

568
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:00,639
Let me let me bring up a
little behind the scenes here, because

569
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,519
you guys were going down there and
you wanted to leave Saturday at nine?

570
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:09,679
Wasn't that? Or what one Monday? Excuse me, Monday at nine?

571
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:14,800
So I called Jordan to just see, hey, did you guys get on

572
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,280
the road, And Jordan says,
no, we're waiting because Jackson wants to

573
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,079
get a bottle of Jack Daniels in. The liquor store opens at nine.

574
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,440
Just time out, it's okay,
you're twins. Well, here's the thing.

575
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,599
Turns out the liquor store wasn't even
open. I figured I told you

576
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:32,000
that, okay, I said to
you, I go no liquor store.

577
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:37,960
What fucking open at nine? No, that's the thing. I looked it

578
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:40,880
up one of our cousin posts underfeed. If you don't, if you're gonna

579
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,199
shoot me this, look, when
I'm at the liquor store at nine,

580
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,800
don't be open at nine, Okay. I saw, Like I looked on

581
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,079
Google Maps to double checks. I
was like, there's no way they're opened

582
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:52,280
that early. Yeah. When you
said to me, I just looked it

583
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:58,519
up, Okay, said, I'm
thinking to myself, nine o'clock for a

584
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:04,000
liquor store. All you're gonna get
is problems problem people, I'm thinking.

585
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:07,840
But anyway, so so I said
to you, well, why don't you

586
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,719
just buy it. You'll be driving
and something will open up if it's eleven

587
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,280
by the time. Yeah, that's
what we ended up doing. But but

588
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,880
I also, what else did I
say to you? Jordan? Uh,

589
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:21,480
you need to bring something for the
house? Yeah, for the people you're

590
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,719
saying Jack Daniels is for in his
head, Jack, That's what it was,

591
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,800
Jack time out. I have got
to call bullshit on that. I'm

592
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,360
going to say, why I have
to call bullshit? You can call it,

593
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,559
but I'll tell you that it's true. All right, hang on,

594
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,239
let me finish my thought and then
you can jump in with yours. The

595
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:45,199
reason I thought it was bullshit is
I know you like that. I do,

596
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,039
And yeah, so have is that
christ that Dawson Christina's has been collects

597
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:52,639
Jack Daniels. Okay, but I
think you were expecting to drink that around

598
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:57,000
the bonfire, So you were going
to bring the bottle and expect to drink

599
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,239
it, yes or no? Yes, okay, but at the end of

600
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,920
the day, that was his choice
to make, and he did in fact,

601
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:05,920
yes. But my my thing is
you can't go with a gift that

602
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,880
you're hoping that they're gonna share back
with you. You gotta go with Hey,

603
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,280
I brought a bottle of jack for
everybody me included all of you.

604
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:17,480
And here's some flowers, and here's
the dessert, or here's if you're going

605
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:22,559
to somebody's house that you're gonna do
and and I fair enough, Yeah,

606
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:25,039
so did you? Yes? Bullshit? We got the flowers. Okay,

607
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,320
that's fine. Yeah, did you
who bought the flowers? I did?

608
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,920
Okay, And you bought the bottle
of jack? Okay, all right.

609
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,559
I just it's so funny watching you
two clowns. It's like you're two because

610
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:43,280
I know, I know for a
fact, no matter what's gone on between

611
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,320
you, your mom, and and
me, there's no way she would let

612
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,880
you go somewhere without that. She
is has such great manners and stuff.

613
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,440
Really yeah, oh yeah, yes, you're right polite and proper. Yeah,

614
00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:01,360
So where where did miss the mark
here that you wouldn't think that already?

615
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,360
You didn't miss the mark? I
just wasn't thinking. Well, I

616
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:07,800
believe it on this, I BlimE
it. I'ld be in like a young

617
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,360
guy. I could say that.
No, I did that myself. I

618
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,280
read about a little bit younger than
you. When I would go to this

619
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:21,000
girl's house for dinner, and I
remember once like I didn't bring anything,

620
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:23,400
and it was kind of brought to
my attention like hey, dummy, and

621
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:25,840
my parents are like, yeah,
we told you. I was like,

622
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,039
oh, well, I mean I
just explained it to both you. All

623
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:38,639
right, okay, very quiet.
I don't know. Are you uncomfortable doing

624
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,559
No, I'm fine. You wanted
to do this, I did fine,

625
00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:45,880
Okay, Well, I just want
to make sure you're fine. Well,

626
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,760
it's just hard to put thoughts together
sometimes. Why, you know, the

627
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,360
moment, you don't know what to
talk about transition, Okay, well the

628
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,320
conversation. We had two bonfires.
Yes, Tay can control of the situation.

629
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,920
So Chris, I'm supposed to burn
like a thing, a debris,

630
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,480
just for like chores. And then
he already had a he texted me Saturday.

631
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,440
I was already going to text him
on this Saturday saying, hey,

632
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,039
we're gonna be here that from here
to here, and he ends up taking

633
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:12,480
me hey, saying, hey,
we built a small bonfire for you in

634
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:16,639
the backyard. It's only ten feet
tall. Yeah, only ten feet exact

635
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:22,559
words. And the flames ended up
getting up to thirty feet something like that.

636
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:24,559
Yeah, wow, Yeah, And
we ended up throwing all kinds of

637
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:29,480
like crap from the back of three
He had three rundown trucks there, so

638
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:30,840
we ended up clearing out of the
beds, just throwing him in there.

639
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,599
And then it started to rain.
So the one, the smaller one that

640
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:40,559
he did just for chores, was
was out pretty quick. Everything it took

641
00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:43,880
a while. Yeah, you know, that's kind of what happens when you

642
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,119
poured dieseling gasoline on a fire oil. Yeah. But my point, like

643
00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:50,599
the next morning there was nothing in
the pit but ash, but there was

644
00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:52,119
still some like wood left over the
big ones. So I ended up playing

645
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:54,800
with that for a few hours.
Okay, Yeah, and you like that,

646
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,679
you'd like you would love to have
to live down that way. I

647
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,599
would, yeah, like one more
like own like a piece of property down

648
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:05,920
there and have like a trailer and
just every other weekend type of thing,

649
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,119
type kind of a weekend escape.
Yeah. Yeah, it's nice. It

650
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:13,639
is. It's it's uh in the
Waverley right, Yeah, there up on

651
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:19,000
basically a mountain right around Waverley and
Sayer, I think are the two towns

652
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,239
it's between. Yeah, and they
have about one hundred acres up there,

653
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:25,840
a little over a little over on. It's on your mom's side of the

654
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,559
family. Uh. And that's where
some of the height is, right because

655
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,000
you're six seven people go, where
does the height come from? I'm sixty

656
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,119
one, but those guys are six
nine six six six four six six two

657
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:44,679
Chus six two or six four Seawan
six two. A lot of tall people

658
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,400
on that side of the Yeah.
But you're always talking about the family tree.

659
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,960
This is when you really have to
climb pretty high in order to I

660
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000
remember being down there once and all
of a sudden, one of the little

661
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:59,000
girls, the younger cousins of yours, came running in screaming, Jamison's dead.

662
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:05,320
He got run over. Oh you
were driving it? Yeah, here's

663
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:09,360
no. This is the part that
everyone Jamison was like six. It was

664
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:15,760
like seven. Well, okay,
So he's riding on the golf cart in

665
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,000
the back and I'm driving it because
they have like golf carts and yeah,

666
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:24,599
four by fours and side by sides, and he decides to jump off and

667
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:31,199
run alongside the golf cart and I'm
just continuing to drive, not thinking anything

668
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:35,039
of it. I think he's just
going to run to the house and like

669
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:37,840
off the side. Yeah. No, he decides to cut right in front

670
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,760
of me. I barely see him
move, and I hit the brakes and

671
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,000
I by the time I hit the
brake, I've already run him over and

672
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:52,480
he's now stuck underneath the thing.
Yep, I shouldn't lap that poor kid.

673
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,639
I mean, were you slammed him
into a chair once he got a

674
00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:59,039
buckle fracture? Yeah, he tested
me. No, I'm just kidding.

675
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,760
We were We were just play fighting
like brothers do, and did hard.

676
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:06,920
Yeah, yeah, broke his arm. But you used to. You guys,

677
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,000
we used to do that all the
time. You guys used to get

678
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:12,159
into some big fights. Oh yeah, big time. Yeah. Do you

679
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:15,280
remember? Yeah? I remember one
time. Do you remember, mister Jones,

680
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,440
they're grade, Yes, give me
that gord. I tried to kill

681
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:21,039
him if we broke it. Oh
yeah, you're leaving back. I kept

682
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:22,960
going, I'm gonna kill I'm gonna
kill him because you broke it. I

683
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,480
remember, Yeah, I don't remember
why I broke it. I think it

684
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:29,119
was an accident. I think so
too, Look at it was an accident.

685
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,400
Yeah. I ended up talking to
him when I had him in third

686
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,440
grade and asked for a replacement he
did. Yeah, I asked for an

687
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,239
extra because he told because he did
that same lesson he did with you for

688
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:42,639
I think it was for like Thanksgiving
or something, probably, I know.

689
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,880
Yeah, So what things went on
that I wasn't aware of it? Like

690
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,119
I didn't know that everybody was climbing
up on the roof. That was just

691
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:53,480
something we would do for fun.
I mean we'd climb up there and just

692
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,199
just to beat on a roof.
Yeah, but nobody used to. I

693
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,960
was always waiting for people to climb
out the bathroom window upstairs and on to

694
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:05,039
the low hanging shop of the pool, and was just thinking that, Yeah,

695
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:07,199
no one ever did it. Talked
to him out of it. A

696
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,840
couple of times. Wait, you
were really tried, so full that you

697
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,679
were talking to me about it.
One time we were in the pool and

698
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,119
you were like, dude, how
how fun would it be for me to

699
00:45:17,199 --> 00:45:20,800
jump off that roof into the pool. I'm like, you'll break your fucking

700
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,280
leg by the time you hit You
know who did do it? Oh?

701
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,159
Me? Yeah you did? I
remember you know you didn't. You weren't

702
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:30,280
home. I thought I heard the
story. I thought Mom told me that.

703
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,960
No, she wasn't home either.
I didn't even tell her really no,

704
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,760
because if I said it, she
would say I would. She would

705
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,920
probably be like, well, please
don't do that in front of the boys.

706
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,000
And I didn't want it brought up
in front of you guys at all.

707
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,280
I didn't want you doing it,
although I totally got it, if

708
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,880
you did, I'd be like,
yeah, I get it, I totally

709
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,519
get that. No, but I
did. I did it. A couple

710
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:53,039
of times. You carawled through the
bathroom, just set up a ladder.

711
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:58,480
No, I came out out through
the bathroom window one time. I think

712
00:45:58,519 --> 00:46:01,440
there was a Fourth of July.
You guys were all went down to your

713
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:06,960
grandparents, who at the time were
living in Florida, and you were down

714
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,360
there for a couple of weeks.
Oh yeah, I'm home alone. I

715
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:10,000
was up and I'm in the bathroom
and I go, you know, it

716
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,079
would be a great idea right now, And I went out completely naked,

717
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:20,000
ompletely naked. Neighbors everybody could see. I didn't give a shit, but

718
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:27,079
I went quick out boom fam right
into the pool, all by myself,

719
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:32,360
dark out, no broad daylight.
Oh it's like probably around noon, neighbors

720
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,679
are out there grilling hot dogs.
No, there was like I peeked,

721
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,880
I could see nobody was in our
neighbor, Jim's yard, And then I

722
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,400
didn't. I don't know if someone
was gonna be walking down because we had

723
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,320
a sidewalk on one side of the
house. But there was defense and stuff,

724
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,760
and there were does a tree block
and we're like here out the window.

725
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,920
Hit that thing, boom right into
the pool. You guys didn't do

726
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,840
anything. I was always waiting because
I, as a as a guy grown

727
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,440
up, was always always pushing the
boundaries, like I was in trouble.

728
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:08,480
I was if just to give you
an example, state police showed up in

729
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:15,599
my house to talk about property damage
at a party that I was not at

730
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,280
because they knew I knew everybody who
would be there. I was voted in

731
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,440
my high school yearbook most likely to
be found looking for a party in ten

732
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:28,400
years. So but you guys,
I certainly would never tell you that.

733
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:31,480
I mean, i'll tell you now
you're your bed. But at the time,

734
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,760
so I was always like thinking,
well, I guess, I guess

735
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,880
it's good that you don't now.
The other side of it was times had

736
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:44,519
changed, Times had changed a lot, and people the laws were changed.

737
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:47,320
The laws were stricter, especially on
underage and alcohol and all that sort of

738
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,239
stuff. You had a party with
a bunch of people and no, no,

739
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,880
just but it was like eighth grade
or something. It was fine.

740
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,480
It was a nice party. But
even there, like I remember going,

741
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:01,800
there were be spin the bottle that
you guys weren't doing any of that stuff

742
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:06,199
because it was But I think it
was a party that was like mostly my

743
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,639
friends from the football team. Yeah, I know, but there were some

744
00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:12,559
girls there. And then I thought
I also don't want to encourage it,

745
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,159
and it was you know, you
got to keep the doors open, and

746
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,800
you never I don't know it was
to me. I was always like,

747
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:21,480
whatever you're gonna do, you're you're
gonna do. Let's just I don't know.

748
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,400
I mean, that was the one
and only one I ever hosted,

749
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,760
because yeah, I hated hosting shit, yes, all the time, right.

750
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,159
I don't know if it was because
of all the family or well.

751
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:34,920
I did a video that I think
you can find somewhere online of updates throughout

752
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,440
the night, me and Jamison updating
throughout the night on your party, and

753
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,199
then me at the end of the
night in bed talking to the camera about

754
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,039
all the things that went on at
the party and how some guy goes hey

755
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:50,639
bro, and I go, you
don't call me bro? Yeah, I

756
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:53,840
think I remember, But you guys
were as far as I remember, there

757
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,760
was no real shenanigans. I mean, you later on when he got to

758
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,039
high school, had a few incidents
things, But I'll tell you what,

759
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:06,199
I didn't really handle a lot of
that. Your mom did. Your mom

760
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,719
handled most of that stuff. I
mean when you did have some shit,

761
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,800
I had, Yeah, you had
some shit. Actually, now that I

762
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,320
think about it. But again,
a lot of the shit I tried to

763
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,239
have, I tried to keep low
key enough to where you guys wouldn't find

764
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:21,400
out, because I was always seeing
what would happen when you guys did find

765
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,239
out what I was doing, even
if it was the smallest Well what did

766
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,480
what did I do? Because I
don't remember that I did anything. I

767
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:30,440
mean, if you were the one
to find out about something, you'd be

768
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:31,679
like, I'm not gonna tell your
mom, but you have to do that.

769
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:36,880
Jesus, I said that. You
said that like once or twice over

770
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,599
something like stupid, like together,
like the time it was you guys were

771
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:44,719
together, and it would be like
if mom was out doing something and you

772
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,960
saw me break like a coffee mugg
or oh yeah, accident, you'd be

773
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,880
like, I'm not going to tell
your mom, but you ever don't need

774
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,880
to talk about it. Yeah.
Yeah, it was never any big shit

775
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,519
that you found out. No,
mom was always the one to find Was

776
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:58,719
it fun growing up? Did you
have fun? It was a good time.

777
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,239
I don't know, God, we
had time, okay, because I

778
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:05,519
always it went so fast that and
like I said, a lot of times,

779
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:09,000
I feel like most of my time
was spent trying to build stuff and

780
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:13,079
in terms of like a career and
make sure that there was food and money

781
00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:15,719
and insurance and all these things.
It was, but you were also there

782
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,840
for some of the cool shit that
we got to do, Like you helped

783
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,400
some of the cool shit you did, like a music festivals, McConnery's other

784
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,119
stuff. That's training camp a lot
of years. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

785
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:30,320
I didn't even think of that stuff. Building the treehouse in the backyard.

786
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,840
Yeah, you and Eddie helped us
do that. Yeah, yeah,

787
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:37,159
I mean I but I always liked
that stuff. You know. I wouldn't

788
00:50:37,199 --> 00:50:38,440
say it was the best of working
with my hands, but I like it.

789
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,519
And it was a different thing for
me because at the end of the

790
00:50:40,599 --> 00:50:45,559
day, I could go I did
that where with you know, less so

791
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:47,400
with a podcast, more so with
radio, I had no fucking idea,

792
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,559
Right, You wouldn't get ratings on
things until three months after whatever you did

793
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:54,639
that day, you wouldn't find out
the results of it, So it didn't

794
00:50:54,639 --> 00:50:57,960
you know, to me, it
was like, it's great, but it's

795
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,840
out in the ether. People could
tell you, hey man, that was

796
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,960
a fantastic show. You could walk
away feeling great, but I didn't have

797
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,360
anything tangible. If I put up
a door, I could look at that

798
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,840
and go, shit, I really
did a shitty job with that. But

799
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:13,239
or there was satisfaction to that thing. That's why I would always say to

800
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,960
you, guys, find the things
that that give you satisfaction and and don't

801
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,800
shy away from from things. And
I would also say, uh, do

802
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,599
the things that that scare you.
I wouldn't say scare you to the point

803
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:29,679
of, like, you know,
danger of You always had a what I

804
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:32,199
thought was a very healthy fear,
even though I got frustrated a few times

805
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,239
of roller coasters and things. You
didn't you you were not a fan.

806
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,920
Yeah, mostly because of a general
fear of falling off of No, and

807
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,199
that makes sense. I mean,
look, there was just the roller coaster

808
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,800
that was built to steel and they
had that crack as it went by,

809
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,559
right, I mean everybody saw that, or that that old wives tale about

810
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:53,280
the guy who wrote the Superman with
No legs. That's not it's not,

811
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,719
but everyone has chalked it up to
like a legendary story. Well it is

812
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,760
because like how do you how do
you let a guy do that? I

813
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:07,400
don't know, but the so I
always thought, you know, that healthy

814
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:12,760
fear of stuff, which was good
because I love to this day, I

815
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,280
don't do it on our roads,
especially as I've gotten older. I have

816
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,960
this a real respect for this is
where people live, This is where kids.

817
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:22,639
You don't know who's going to pop
out somebody's dog. All this stuff

818
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,320
of speeding, even on like four
ninety and stuff, I don't They're not

819
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,239
built for that, and it's not
fair. You're putting a lot of people's

820
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,239
lives in danger when you speed,
you really are, because something could happen

821
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,920
that you can't lock up those brakes
fast enough. No matter how good you

822
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,800
think you are, you're you're not
that good. But I love going to

823
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,519
race tracks and I love going one
hundred and twenty miles an hour, and

824
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:47,280
I've done that a lot. But
I you didn't have that, And that

825
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,440
made me feel happy because I had
a lot of friends grown up in a

826
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:53,679
rural area where I grew up that
died in car accidents, you know,

827
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,880
not always because of drugs, a
lot of times just because of speed.

828
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,280
And I used to say one of
the biggest things. People would mock me

829
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,480
for saying this, but I said
that one of the things that scares me

830
00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:07,039
the most was young men in cars
because there's you know, why do we

831
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:09,920
send guys your age off to war
because you think you're invincible in a way.

832
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,360
In a way, I'm not saying
that that isn't there isn't an imminent

833
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,760
fear of certain things. But there's
a bravado. We need that we you

834
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,679
know, the whole world has needed
that. Um. I think that sometimes

835
00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:25,719
some of the greatest inventions like who
wants to go fast? But crazy people?

836
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,159
You know, the guys in the
submarine. I mean that thing was

837
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:32,159
not built for five people. I
understand. It was not built for five

838
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:37,599
pee I understand. But also being
controlled by a knockoff ex controller, that's

839
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:40,480
a really bad example. A lot
of things are actually controlled by that.

840
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,360
But this is a logic tech by
the way, anyway, it was not

841
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:46,480
It was not a whatever the game
controller was. It was a logic.

842
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:49,880
Yeah, but it was cost like
five bucks. But but it was a

843
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,440
logic. But here was my thinking
on it. They had done it a

844
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,880
couple of times. These were people
who wanted to live at the edge.

845
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,000
They lived at the edge. The
one that one billionaire had done all this

846
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,239
stuff even to be a billionaire you've
got to have some fucking balls, man,

847
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,400
because you've got to put it out
there, and you've got to take

848
00:54:05,519 --> 00:54:07,719
risks, and you've got to be
willing to lose in order to win.

849
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:13,159
And these guys were also funding research
that is in the ocean, and if

850
00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:15,320
you talk to certain scientists, they'll
say the answers to our lives or in

851
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,320
the ocean. I don't know if
that's true or not, but that's what

852
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,679
these people who are smarter than me
have said. So they were, you

853
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,199
know, the the hundreds of thousands
of dollars that were it took to go

854
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,480
down, and that thing was also
going back to fund and pay and all

855
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:34,079
this stuff. They knew what they
were getting themselves into. So I it's

856
00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:37,800
tragic. I feel bad that these
are you know, that they're not here

857
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,360
anymore. But to me, I
go, yeah, living on the edge

858
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,360
a little bit, and I've kind
of been that way, and I was

859
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:51,000
glad that maybe you guys weren't so
much. It's different when you have like

860
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:53,199
look at it. You I wouldn't
want anything to have happened. It would

861
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:57,440
be it would be terrible, you
know, yeah, you know, I

862
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,519
mean even now when you drive and
stuff, I do worry about sometimes distracted

863
00:55:01,639 --> 00:55:07,760
driving worries me tremendously, making pretty
heavy eye contact with me, saying that,

864
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:12,159
well only yeah, I don't know. I mean, how are you

865
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,800
with that? I'm good? All
right, okay, all right, We'll

866
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:22,480
take a moment and when we come
back, Jordan wants to we'll talk about

867
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:23,960
some of the other things from your
childhood. Yeah, and then maybe some

868
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,360
of your plans for the future,
maybe exactly why you want to get into

869
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,840
law enforcement and why Jordan is pursuing
a law on the other side. Sort

870
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,559
of right, I mean, you
both want to be of service Tom to

871
00:55:36,639 --> 00:55:38,639
some degree. You know, we
live in one of the coolest areas here

872
00:55:38,639 --> 00:55:42,119
in Fairport, New York, and
if you ever get the opportunity to come

873
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:45,480
here, I would highly recommend stopping
buy the Iron Smoke Distillery. They have

874
00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:52,079
a range of handcrafted spirits that are
really, really wonderful. I say that

875
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:58,000
knowing that Forbes magazine has called them
one of the ten best bourbons outside of

876
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,719
Kentucky. So just from that kind
of endorsement, you want to go over

877
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,920
there. Now. You can get
some tastings at the bar, but you

878
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,639
can also get a whole tour all
you have to do is email Scully on

879
00:56:07,679 --> 00:56:12,920
the website at Ironsmoke Distillery dot com. But they make great craft cocktails with

880
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:16,239
all of their fine spirits that they
make over at Ironsmoke Distillery, So you

881
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,320
can have one of those and then
hang out in what is I think one

882
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:25,079
of the coolest atmospheres. Tommy Brunette
is somewhat of a visionary because when he

883
00:56:25,119 --> 00:56:28,599
looked at this space, he was
like, I want to keep it as

884
00:56:28,679 --> 00:56:31,079
much as I can to the original
cannery. That's where the first beer can

885
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:36,519
was patented in the United States,
and he wanted to kind of keep it

886
00:56:36,599 --> 00:56:39,679
that somewhat rustic feel. And it's
awesome and they have live music. This

887
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:45,760
Thursday, it'll be Blue twenty two
bringing what I call vintage classic rock garage

888
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,320
band sound, almost folksy garage band, really fun. Thursday Night, Blue

889
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,480
twenty two. Friday Night, Barn
Salt will be playing, bringing some delicious

890
00:56:54,519 --> 00:56:58,280
Americana to the stage. So you
get over there, you get a nice

891
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,400
craft cocktail, you're take in some
great live music, unleash your taste for

892
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,519
greatness. And Iron Smoke Distillery in
Fairport, New York, Baby Back of

893
00:57:04,599 --> 00:57:07,400
All trades. The name says it
all. The Plug in the Eastern Mall

894
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:12,000
is the hottest kicks in town.
If you are looking for any iteration of

895
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:14,960
Jordan sneakers, and they have a
new one every month, you'll find it

896
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,840
at the plug. Jordan morands.
No, you put out a pair of

897
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,719
those. Look, that's right,
that's right, and you know what happens

898
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,079
You put those those on and then
all of a sudden you're posting shirtless pictures

899
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:29,840
on dating. Right, Bruce Bantery, I'm back. I tore through another

900
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,159
para suse. The plug is Rochester's
a lead sneaker in a power of resale

901
00:57:34,199 --> 00:57:37,360
shop. And if you have some
sneaks that you're looking to maybe put on

902
00:57:37,719 --> 00:57:40,199
consignment, you can do that.
Rick and his crew will look them over.

903
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,639
The plug is the spot, the
plug in the Eastern Mall where high

904
00:57:44,679 --> 00:57:47,360
end fashioned meets unique clothing brands for
the vibe you're looking for. It's the

905
00:57:47,400 --> 00:58:00,679
plug I'll never get Alonely, I
got these goals to keep me company.

906
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:05,519
I took theory if you offered this
so far, so I only see him

907
00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:09,079
in front of me. Now the
passes out of side, and now man

908
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:16,599
swore I change now while I'm back
chasing these wide. Man, I'm just

909
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:28,079
a lie. Yes, Jordan's long
haired son of a sinner. I'm a

910
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:32,280
battle You know who this is.
No, I've heard the song. Oh

911
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:37,880
God, you guys make me so
fucking happy that you don't know. It's

912
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:42,719
jelly Roll. And I have always
said that I think jelly Roll has a

913
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:49,199
great voice, but it's a dog
whistle for idiots. Like But I've also

914
00:58:49,239 --> 00:58:52,760
said if jelly Roll walked in here
and I could do I have a conversation

915
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,960
with jelly Roll, I think I
would love the guy by the end of

916
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,719
it. I really do. I
think he's got an interesting story. And

917
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:02,880
but I just look at h this
is a dog whistle for morons. I

918
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,119
know he is. I just didn't
know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

919
00:59:06,119 --> 00:59:07,599
I say any of the stuff.
I thought. It's really funny that you

920
00:59:07,639 --> 00:59:10,159
say that, because that reminds me
of something you used to tell us as

921
00:59:10,159 --> 00:59:13,559
a kid. Oh great, can't
wait to hear this. And uh,

922
00:59:13,639 --> 00:59:16,920
I remember this because you told us
this story and it got you in a

923
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:22,400
lot of trouble at work. What
I got cost cost them, cost you

924
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,599
a sponsorship. You told us,
you used to tell us all the time

925
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:30,920
that we shouldn't. We weren't allowed
to drink mountain dew as kids because you

926
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,639
what did you call it? Do
you remember? A crack for idiots?

927
00:59:35,679 --> 00:59:38,199
Yeah? What did I call it? Basically that? But what? What?

928
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,639
What word? What did I say? What I said that? You

929
00:59:40,679 --> 00:59:45,519
said that it was cracked for retards? And it cost you a Pepsi sponsorship.

930
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:50,400
It did on one of your at
some gig or something. You've got

931
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,679
in a lot of trouble and they
lost your show, lost ads from Pepsi

932
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,199
because of it. I don't,
I don't. I don't know. That

933
00:59:55,639 --> 01:00:00,840
seems like a that seems like the
story too far. Thank you? Maybe,

934
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,760
Oh no, that's I remember you
saying that. I don't know how

935
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,400
true it was. Yeah, but
I do remember. What did I call

936
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,199
it? I don't the R word? I used the R word? Yeah?

937
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,800
Did see you kids? I did. No, I was older when

938
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,119
you told me that part of the
story. Yeah, but when we were

939
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:15,920
you're still kids, your kids now
you're twenty one, right, But we

940
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:20,599
were like actual kids, and we
were like seven or eight years old going

941
01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:22,400
to a ball game or something,
or going out to eat and they had

942
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,800
mountain dew on the menu. You
wouldn't let us have it or keep it

943
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:29,519
in the house. Why was the
Mountain I did? I always sell it

944
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:32,199
was crack forddi I did. Yeah, I thought Mountain Dew was probably one

945
01:00:32,199 --> 01:00:37,280
of the worst ones. And I
know people UH say that I do like

946
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,519
Pepsi. I like Pepsi products.
I like like you had in this,

947
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,880
you know, knowing it. I
have no endorsements from Pepsi at all.

948
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,920
They have nothing to do with the
pirate ship. But I had diet cherry

949
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,599
Pepsi in the in the fridge and
I drank it, and I no,

950
01:00:50,679 --> 01:00:52,400
that's fine. I mean, I'm
just saying like they But I was never

951
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,760
a Mountain Dew guy. And I
remember reading some of the stuff in Mountain

952
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,280
Dew and I'm like, that's bad. It's funny because I was with Brian

953
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:04,000
Gianta on Saturday. Brian Gionta played
in the NHL for eighteen seasons. He

954
01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:07,239
won a Stanley Cup early on in
his career. Later on became I believe

955
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,920
the second captain. I think on
the podcast I said the first, but

956
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:15,599
he didn't correct me. For a
second American captain of the Montreal Canadians.

957
01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:22,000
He made a lot of money and
was so famous in Canada that it would

958
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,199
be like Josh Allen trying to go
grab a pizza here. It was like

959
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,840
messy going to uh yeah, but
going to Public's in Miami where he got

960
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,559
all this that was Brian couldn't go
anywhere. I mean, he was a

961
01:01:31,719 --> 01:01:37,079
a complete hero there and then finished
his career. I think with the Bruins

962
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,320
played a little bit with Buffalo Um. But he was saying, you know,

963
01:01:40,599 --> 01:01:44,559
all the nutrition and stuff, and
I said to him, how hard

964
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:46,199
is it when you know, watching
your kids. He goes there's times when

965
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:50,239
they go to the pantry and grab
a stack of oreos and I think to

966
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,320
myself, or maybe he said of
sleeve you, oh man, you don't

967
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,960
know what you're doing to yourself.
And I always felt like like that with

968
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:00,880
with Mountain Dew. But that that's
just me. I know a lot of

969
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,679
people love it. People use it
as the first thing they drink in the

970
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:07,519
morning to wake up because it's got
a lot of caffeine and it's not as

971
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:12,559
maybe hard on some people who find
coffee too acidic and don't like the taste

972
01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:15,760
and that sort of thing. I
don't know. Did I say other stupid

973
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:20,960
things like that I don't You had
a lot of different mannerisms about you when

974
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,360
we were kids, Like what I
don't remember? Yeah, did that?

975
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,760
What did I do? Did you
just say you would come out? I'm

976
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,239
trying to think of one. It's
like, you know, the Mountain dew

977
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:31,679
one, that's a big story.
Yeah, that was something that always stuck

978
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:36,760
on me as a kid. I
don't remember losing you said that it costs

979
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,480
that, it costs you a PEPs. It's possible, It's possible. It's

980
01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:44,199
possible. I had a big mouth. Yeah, yeah, some things never

981
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,440
changed. Okay, So what are
there other things I don't remember? Because

982
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,079
I was going to say, you
know, there were a couple of things

983
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:55,800
with Jackson that I remember, um
that always really will always stand out in

984
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,519
my mind. One was they had
a talent show at his elementary school.

985
01:03:00,639 --> 01:03:07,159
Oh, Jackson was like five years
old in kindergarten and I and he wanted

986
01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:12,599
to do stand up. He's gonna
do some stand up comedy. And there

987
01:03:12,679 --> 01:03:14,639
was a lot of talk to stand
up in the house and all this,

988
01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:17,719
and he had knock knock jokes and
I tried to talk to Jackson and Jackson

989
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,880
was like, just leave me alone. I gotta I gotta gets So then

990
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:25,559
we get up there. Well,
we got up there and I'm I'm nervous,

991
01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:29,559
so I'm going out on the stage
with her. I don't know why

992
01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:32,599
I that was one of those moments
as a young dad that I felt like

993
01:03:32,599 --> 01:03:36,320
I got to protect this kid because
I don't know what's gonna happen. And

994
01:03:36,519 --> 01:03:38,679
you were doing your knock knock jokes
and getting some laughs, and then you

995
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:43,159
did knock knock and who's there,
and you give the who's there. I

996
01:03:43,199 --> 01:03:47,159
don't remember what you said. Some
kid jumps in to finish the joke first,

997
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:50,440
and you go you look at him
and go, Nope, it's this

998
01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:52,280
And I went, oh, you
didn't even need me. You did not

999
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,719
even need me. I was so
proud of you in that moment. I

1000
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,599
thought that was fantastic. And then
another thing that always stood out to me

1001
01:03:59,679 --> 01:04:03,400
was later or on uh you know, Jordan had mentioned you you did stay

1002
01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:09,679
out a year and get homeschooled,
and then when you came back, um,

1003
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:14,159
you had uh an iep and things. So you were working to but

1004
01:04:14,239 --> 01:04:16,199
you were going to get a Regions
diploma. But in order to do that,

1005
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:21,119
you needed to double up on history
and you had some tutoring things,

1006
01:04:21,159 --> 01:04:25,599
but man, you pushed yourself and
you got through and you got that region's

1007
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:28,920
diploma and I was like, damn. And that was one of those moments

1008
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,480
where I went this kid, when
he wants to will figure it out.

1009
01:04:31,559 --> 01:04:36,400
You will. You will always have
that that that way you're you were you

1010
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:42,760
were somewhat of an enigma to me
because um, I would look at you

1011
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,480
like Jordan I got there was effort
and then I could I could see it

1012
01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:53,039
and the refrustration and he frustration and
you were more quiet, and I was

1013
01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:56,039
like, was he doing anything?
And then you did. You went through,

1014
01:04:56,079 --> 01:04:57,719
and man, you did it.
And I'm like, all right,

1015
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,679
well, I don't know why everybody's
different, and I think that's what makes

1016
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:03,880
the world great. But those were
moments that I was like, damn that

1017
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,039
that kid. And when you went
out for the football team and you try,

1018
01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:11,000
you know, you did it to
make friends and wrestling, and it

1019
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:15,199
always the moments that I saw where
you would push yourself and put yourself in

1020
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,039
uncomfortable moments. And I think another
one of my favorites was at the YMCA

1021
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:23,760
when I asked you to spot me
and I'm sitting at the end of the

1022
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,880
bench and I look up and there's
a mirror in front of me, and

1023
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,960
I see this guy flexing behind me. So I had a snap a quick

1024
01:05:30,039 --> 01:05:35,800
photo and go, look who's flexing? And yeah, but I was always

1025
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,519
like, I go, wait.
I always admired that it was a very

1026
01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:44,880
quiet drive to do things. And
now you want to go and be of

1027
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,320
service. You really want to go
into law and it you know when you

1028
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,719
look at that, the police haven't
been people's favorite favorites for a while.

1029
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:57,079
Maybe the pendulums maybe coming back a
little bit, but it certainly hasn't been

1030
01:05:57,119 --> 01:05:59,719
for a while. Yeah. Yeah, does that worry you at all?

1031
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,880
I really know. No, So
what is it about law enforcement that you

1032
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,840
think you want to be part of
that and you want to do that?

1033
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:10,280
Yeah, it's just you know,
I've always wanted to be of service since

1034
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,480
I was five years old. Now
I'm too tall for the military. Still

1035
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,400
can't believe they have a height limit, but whatever, and I think law

1036
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,119
enforcement is the next best thing.
I'll never forget when he first told me

1037
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:23,920
about the height limit thing, yeah, because he was looking into going you

1038
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,559
were looking into the Marines, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, And

1039
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,079
back in my head, I was
like, he's not gonna fit in the

1040
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:32,599
fucking submarine. Turns out that's why
that's why he can't that's why he can't

1041
01:06:32,679 --> 01:06:38,320
enlist. It's because he's too tall
for the for any the board. Yeah,

1042
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,760
I thought it was just the I
thought it was just the Marines.

1043
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,760
Yeah, every branch. Yeah,
which makes sense. I mean I I

1044
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:49,000
could see him now just in a
fighter jet, like would literally writ me

1045
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,079
in half. Yeah. And I
think with you, Jordan, I know,

1046
01:06:53,159 --> 01:06:59,119
like you know, coming out of
the comfort zone and McQuaid and all

1047
01:06:59,159 --> 01:07:01,320
that. I always thought I never
helped you with anything. I think I

1048
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,280
might have helped you, studied you. I don't remember helping you. You

1049
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,679
help me. You helped me with
math, and that did not go well

1050
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:13,480
because you were I ended up correcting
you on some of the stuff in math,

1051
01:07:14,199 --> 01:07:17,079
which was funny because math was my
worst subject. I don't see again.

1052
01:07:17,719 --> 01:07:23,719
Now these are the things like I
don't mean to call you because the

1053
01:07:24,159 --> 01:07:27,559
story I don't remember, the math
one I remember. Don't make up stories,

1054
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,599
Jordan, No, he this could
be true. This could you helped

1055
01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:33,119
me with math when I was in
fifth grade? Yeah, because I was

1056
01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:38,880
upset because I wasn't in the honors
class, which fifth grade? The fuck

1057
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,480
is honors math? Oh, you
get to learn five? You know five

1058
01:07:42,519 --> 01:07:45,000
times five is twenty five, just
a little bit faster than the other kid.

1059
01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:47,880
Cool, you're in the class.
It's gonna make you work a little

1060
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,920
bit harder. I wanted that.
And I remember you would help me work

1061
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,679
on this thing that I really struggled
with. Were those fast fact math quizzes.

1062
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,239
Yeah, and your thing was you
weren't trying to help me so much

1063
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,719
get the math right, but get
the timing down. Yes. And when

1064
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:09,159
you would try and help me figure
out these problems, I would be figuring

1065
01:08:09,199 --> 01:08:11,840
them out, but I wouldn't be
figuring them out fast enough. And so

1066
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,400
you would try and teach me little
tricks on how to get out of my

1067
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,079
head and stop slowing myself down.
Yeah. And I remember a second time

1068
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:23,520
was seventh grade math. I was
learning the Pythagorean theorem and you were trying.

1069
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:30,119
Mom wasn't there, So I had
to ask you second. Well,

1070
01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:33,640
because mom was always was the second
choice. You were always the second choice

1071
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,520
because you were always working. Yeah, so I knew, and not to

1072
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,840
say mom wasn't doing things, but
Mom was always willing to help with them.

1073
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:44,199
Well, and she was. You
know, your mom was always working.

1074
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,119
Yeah she was, but she was
in the kitchen either preparing dinner and

1075
01:08:48,199 --> 01:08:53,199
working on something there. But she
was around where I would just bury myself

1076
01:08:53,239 --> 01:08:56,640
down to my office and hut exactly. Yeah. But I had a bathroom

1077
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,239
in there, a shower. It
was great, it was I just remember

1078
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:02,159
you helping. It worked. Uh
it did, yeah, it did,

1079
01:09:02,359 --> 01:09:05,319
it did, but we weren't allowed
to use it. No. I just

1080
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:09,760
remember this like tile liss thing.
But there was a hole and I had

1081
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,119
cut through because they um, there
was a flood, so I had to

1082
01:09:14,119 --> 01:09:15,920
cut out part of the board.
I remember that. Not imagine anyone thinking

1083
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:21,760
that's a room to bathe in,
but I just remember that. Yeah,

1084
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,399
I'm not gonna look you in the
eye for a while. It's a basement.

1085
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,239
It's like a prison. Well,
I just remember that because you were

1086
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,520
you were there and I was asking
you for help on this and because I

1087
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,880
was getting it, but I wanted
you to just double check my work.

1088
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:41,359
I wasn't really having you, like
actually walk me through it. You were

1089
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:44,880
telling me I was wrong, and
then I had to Again I couldn't ask

1090
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,399
mom, so I just I googled
it and I was right, And I

1091
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:53,800
remember laughing in your face so hard. I don't remember any of this.

1092
01:09:54,159 --> 01:09:57,800
Maybe I black out the bad stuff. Yeah, maybe the Pythagorean theorem was

1093
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,560
easy. And then this is triangle
the strongest geometrical structure. Look at any

1094
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,439
bridge or anything. It's all triangles. You know. Well, I learned

1095
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,640
that now when I put up structure
tensive a card. Yeah. Yeah,

1096
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:11,119
it's the strongest structure. So everything's
a triangle. And that's what you're gonna

1097
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:14,880
you know, you're trying to go. And I'm a big believer in I've

1098
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,920
always thought this, the rule of
three three jokes, three three examples,

1099
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,319
three three is your limit. Don't
you know you're gonna speaker that goes on,

1100
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,159
oh, three minute rounds in boxing
minute rounds in boxing. Yeah,

1101
01:10:26,199 --> 01:10:29,760
I don't. I don't know,
but I don't. I don't remember that.

1102
01:10:30,199 --> 01:10:32,279
I remember. I just the other
thing I remember with you that I

1103
01:10:32,319 --> 01:10:35,319
thought really really impressed me was you
were one of the younger guys and it

1104
01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:39,239
was a lot of Jackson's friends on
your little league team, and we went

1105
01:10:39,279 --> 01:10:43,439
into fallball and we're having you a
pitch and that's when Dan who's on the

1106
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,880
podcast, came over and showed you
how to pitch. And you were very

1107
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:53,239
little. I was really you were
undersized, and in that uniform, even

1108
01:10:53,279 --> 01:10:56,399
the smallest one, it was baggy. You looked like, you know,

1109
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,319
you were afraid it was going to
trip over every Norman Rockwell raw sing that

1110
01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:02,199
there ever was for a kid playing
baseball. And you went out on that

1111
01:11:02,279 --> 01:11:05,439
mound and I remember the coaches going, oh, we gotta gonta ever get

1112
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,880
pitch? I don't know. He
goes, yeah, okay, and then

1113
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:15,479
you just blew them away. And
I remember I was I'll say it this

1114
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,880
way, and I think people may
find it out, but I never really

1115
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:23,319
say I'm proud of you. I
was proud for you. You should be

1116
01:11:23,359 --> 01:11:26,680
proud of you because and I could
see it. And I think the one

1117
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:31,359
thing that I've always wanted for you
boys, all of you, is to

1118
01:11:31,399 --> 01:11:34,199
get the win, as I call
it. And the reason I say it

1119
01:11:34,279 --> 01:11:41,239
that way is that in any sport, a great coach was harder on you

1120
01:11:41,279 --> 01:11:45,720
after a win than a loss.
And I believe that when you're winning or

1121
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,880
you're seeing results, you're willing to
push yourself. And as an example,

1122
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:54,920
any any adult, any anybody at
any age, but usually probably more adults

1123
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,239
than even kids. You do a
diet, right, and you start out

1124
01:11:58,279 --> 01:12:00,520
and it sucks, and you're going
this, and all of a sudden you

1125
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,399
start to see results. Or you
start working out like you right, you

1126
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,960
lifting weights, and all of a
sudden, then you start seeing results.

1127
01:12:05,239 --> 01:12:09,760
And when you see results, what
do you do? You keep going?

1128
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,640
You push yourself. Now I'm going
to go further. I want this.

1129
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,840
I can see it happening. I
can see it. We we live in

1130
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,039
a a see it, touch it, feel it, sense it, smell

1131
01:12:18,039 --> 01:12:23,880
at world. Right, that's our
reality. I think that we should be

1132
01:12:24,079 --> 01:12:28,039
probably living a little bit to the
other side of that. But because of

1133
01:12:28,039 --> 01:12:30,920
that, I think most people hold
back. And so I always thought,

1134
01:12:30,199 --> 01:12:33,600
you know, for you guys,
it would give you a belief in yourself

1135
01:12:34,079 --> 01:12:36,399
that if I can do this,
I could do that. Right, if

1136
01:12:36,399 --> 01:12:39,880
I could do this, I could
do that. And that's where I was

1137
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:43,600
very impressed Jackson, when you did
the region's diploma. That was that was

1138
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,119
amazing. I didn't you know,
I don't want to. I never wanted

1139
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:50,399
to be overly a great job,
and sometimes I think I was. You

1140
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,800
got spared a lot because he got
a ton of lectures. A ton,

1141
01:12:55,000 --> 01:13:00,079
I know, like every day.
I think I found every single day for

1142
01:13:00,119 --> 01:13:03,000
the better part of two years when
Dad would take me home from school.

1143
01:13:04,319 --> 01:13:08,000
I should have recorded them. We
could have made our own podcast out of

1144
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,840
it. Life Lessons with Bill Moran. I don't know if they were good

1145
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,720
or half of them were dogshit?
Do you mean they were dog You don't

1146
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,239
know, I do not, all
right, well, half of them.

1147
01:13:18,279 --> 01:13:21,800
It wasn't like it was just too
specific to the situation that was going on.

1148
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,840
Not a lot of people could get
something out of that. Well maybe

1149
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,239
maybe, I don't know. You
were very inspiration. I wasn't trying to

1150
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,000
I was not in any way trying
to inspire anybody, but you. Yeah,

1151
01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:34,840
my concern was you. And I
knew that it was not an easy

1152
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:39,199
time. I knew there was a
lot of transitions, a lot of things

1153
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:42,359
happening, a lot of upheaval.
That was the first time. Yeah,

1154
01:13:42,359 --> 01:13:45,680
we had a lot of upheaval.
There was one that almost would have been

1155
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,279
another big one. What's that when
I was in middle school, Jackson.

1156
01:13:48,319 --> 01:13:53,800
I don't know if you remember,
I'm sure you do, but you almost

1157
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,760
moved us to a way. Yeah, I do remember this, Yes,

1158
01:13:57,399 --> 01:14:00,840
well, I was more concerned than
anything because having friends with it. I

1159
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,439
was worried we'd have to get rid
of Bella he at the time. Yeah,

1160
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:08,560
like we couldn't bring a dog with
us to La. Yeah, why

1161
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,319
couldn't bring the dog? How the
hell are we going to do dog to

1162
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,920
La? We weren't thinking about you
put it. You put the dog in

1163
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,079
a crate. Yeah, we we
didn't think about that. You were a

1164
01:14:18,079 --> 01:14:23,000
little kid. My mom said that
it would have been somebody. I don't,

1165
01:14:23,239 --> 01:14:26,680
Mom, you, I don't.
Somebody said something and we just kept

1166
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,079
going and then but I remember talking
about it for a while, and then

1167
01:14:30,079 --> 01:14:33,319
we just didn't do it. Yeah, I remember from what I heard was

1168
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:39,479
I remember you you pulled me into
your office and then Mom talked to me

1169
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:44,800
about it after, and you were
telling You told me that I wasn't allowed

1170
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,960
to tell anybody this because you and
Mom were the only ones who new that

1171
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:55,680
you were pursuing a new job opportunity
in Los Angeles. I was in I

1172
01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:02,319
think sixth or seventh grade, sixth
grade, and I was I was upset

1173
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,239
because you know, I had just
started a technically new school, but I

1174
01:15:06,279 --> 01:15:11,079
was getting used to still being in
school with everybody I grew up with.

1175
01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:15,000
And then you were like, we
might move to Los Angeles. It's looking

1176
01:15:15,039 --> 01:15:16,920
like it's going to happen. You
know, there's a better show opportunity out

1177
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:24,600
there. And I remember I went
up after you told me. I went

1178
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:29,720
upstairs and I saw a mom and
I was like, how long were you

1179
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,000
gonna just keep this from me?
And she was like, we wanted to

1180
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:36,520
tell you first, because we didn't
tell you first. You weren't home,

1181
01:15:38,279 --> 01:15:42,399
you were doing something else. You
just weren't there. You didn't give a

1182
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,840
shit about anybody, you didn't care
like but me, I was like,

1183
01:15:45,079 --> 01:15:48,920
I can't tell my friends. I
can't tell my because the biggest reason why

1184
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,880
you said that was because we don't
know if it's going to happen. You

1185
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:58,079
said there, and I remember every
single night I feel bad about this,

1186
01:15:58,199 --> 01:16:00,399
But part of me was like every
single night just thinking like I really don't

1187
01:16:00,399 --> 01:16:03,640
want to move to Lay. What's
there for me in LA? I have

1188
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:09,000
no friends there. But I was
also thinking like live in LA could be

1189
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,880
pretty cool. I mean I could
run into like Adam Sandler on the street

1190
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,159
just one day, depending on what
part of La it was. Um you

1191
01:16:15,159 --> 01:16:16,760
wouldn't know as him because he didn't
just like a Slibert. He just like

1192
01:16:17,159 --> 01:16:20,720
i'd recognize his face. I mean, he doesn't dress his like shames.

1193
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:26,079
Have you ever seen him. No, he just dressed just shorts and whatever.

1194
01:16:26,359 --> 01:16:30,800
He just dresses exactly, but like
he would. He would look like

1195
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,680
he should. When the greatest movie
starts in the world with the funniest guys

1196
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:38,840
personally I think, and the greatest
pick up basketball players because he looks like

1197
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:43,000
any older guy. And La fitness
just waiting to get called for runs at

1198
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:47,319
a pick up basketball game because that's
what he loves to do. But Uh,

1199
01:16:47,359 --> 01:16:51,359
the LA thing was was, um, there was an there was an

1200
01:16:51,399 --> 01:16:55,920
opportunity. They flew me out to
La. It was to be in on

1201
01:16:56,239 --> 01:17:01,399
It was completely different type of show
UM that I was doing. And I,

1202
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,359
you know, the talk thing is
where I was doing some primarily,

1203
01:17:05,399 --> 01:17:10,760
and then I had switched to music
and I wasn't as successful there. I

1204
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,359
think we got it. I think
things went up, but they I don't

1205
01:17:14,399 --> 01:17:17,000
know that they went where I wanted
them too. And then this opportunity came

1206
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,840
and it would be they were taking
a woman who had been with Rickty's and

1207
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:25,199
then Ryan Seacrest had given her her
own show, and they wanted someone who

1208
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:29,079
could produce and be sort of the
sidekick on the show, and they wanted

1209
01:17:29,079 --> 01:17:31,039
someone that was going to bring edge, that was their thing. They wanted

1210
01:17:31,039 --> 01:17:34,159
someone which is why they picked who's
more edgy than Well, there's a lot

1211
01:17:34,199 --> 01:17:36,840
of Rochester, New York. There's
a lot, but I'm sure there's Nettie

1212
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:42,119
that they could find, right,
So I went out there and then it

1213
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,439
did. It seemed like that that
the job was it was pretty much going

1214
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:51,640
to be mine, and but it
came down to a money issue and there

1215
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:57,479
wasn't much of a pay increase.
And to have the five of us in

1216
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,239
LA or yeah, I think it
was. Jamison was around, Jameson was

1217
01:18:01,279 --> 01:18:05,279
born. He was that was.
It was like, I go, I

1218
01:18:05,359 --> 01:18:08,520
kind of can't do it. And
the answer back to me was, well,

1219
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,720
you're b in LA. You could
do a game show, you could

1220
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,560
do a stand And I'm like,
yeah, but that's not guaranteed. You

1221
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,079
know what I'm saying. The opportunity
is there, but right so I have

1222
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:23,079
people that are depending on me,
and I you know, you're taking me

1223
01:18:23,119 --> 01:18:26,600
to a city that's way more expensive, and I understood the budget was this

1224
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,920
for that, and I get it. I wasn't that it just didn't fit,

1225
01:18:30,319 --> 01:18:33,560
so I didn't go m But I
part of the reason you couldn't talk

1226
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,239
about was there was a non disclosure
agreement at the time. I think it

1227
01:18:36,399 --> 01:18:39,800
was like a five year thing at
the time that you couldn't talk about it

1228
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,159
or whatever. I was always thought
it was such bullshit anyway, because you

1229
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:45,880
know, no one gave a fuck. But what they were more concerned about

1230
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,560
was they didn't want the competition to
know that she was going to get her

1231
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,159
own show and eventually they were going
to do some syndicated stuff, and they

1232
01:18:51,159 --> 01:18:55,760
didn't want anybody to know there was
going to be changes to Ryan seacrest syndicated

1233
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,800
show that because she was part of
that, and I get it. So

1234
01:18:59,279 --> 01:19:02,039
whatever. It's just there's always these
fucking secrets everywhere. It's like, and

1235
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,760
I understand, I do totally because
you don't need the questions and things.

1236
01:19:06,039 --> 01:19:09,119
And I say it to people all
the time, if there's something you really

1237
01:19:09,159 --> 01:19:11,359
want to do, just shut your
mouth and tell nobody and do it.

1238
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,600
And it's sort of the same thing, except in business, you want to

1239
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,640
some people have to know because there
are moves going on, and so I

1240
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,479
had to sign all these papers.
But no, in the end, and

1241
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,840
I think it was probably better.
The day that I was out there,

1242
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,760
I was supposed to have breakfast with
some guy and it was one of the

1243
01:19:26,359 --> 01:19:30,720
believe it or not, it was
one of the worst days in LA traffic

1244
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,399
history. Oh, this guy canceled
the meeting because he was coming to work.

1245
01:19:35,399 --> 01:19:42,439
It got on the expressway and an
hour later could still see the ramp

1246
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,760
in his rear view mirror and goes, I just I have to go home

1247
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,680
and work because I'm never going to
get there. Would have taken till noon,

1248
01:19:47,159 --> 01:19:50,960
so he and all that stuff would
have been bad. And I don't

1249
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,319
know where we would have lived for
the amount of money. I mean,

1250
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,279
there are parts of LA that are
nice that a salary. You know what

1251
01:19:58,359 --> 01:20:00,600
I'm saying, and who I think
in the end it was it was a

1252
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,520
better choice, I think for the
family overall. But that would just be

1253
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:09,640
my thing. Why don't we take
one more break, come back through a

1254
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:14,319
short little set and then you know
anything you guys want to say anything,

1255
01:20:14,319 --> 01:20:16,279
you want to wrap up, what
your plans are, you know where your

1256
01:20:16,279 --> 01:20:19,119
heads are at, what's next?
For you guys, all right, all

1257
01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:24,880
right, RV shoppers. You guys
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1258
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:29,039
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1259
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1260
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1261
01:20:38,319 --> 01:20:42,520
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1262
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,319
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1263
01:20:46,359 --> 01:20:50,439
have designed these, and they're comfortable
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1264
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1265
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,800
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1266
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1267
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1268
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1269
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,880
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1270
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:15,520
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1271
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1272
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1273
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:47,800
com. The song coming out up
or Stubus driver Jackson's got range in his

1274
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:54,520
musical taste for Skillet to Brooks and
Dunna. Like what I like? I

1275
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,800
like what I like? So Jackson, the plan is to get into lawn.

1276
01:22:00,399 --> 01:22:02,600
Yes, what did you always want
to do when you were a little

1277
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:06,359
kid? Do you remember what you
wanted to do? Uh? Wanted to

1278
01:22:06,359 --> 01:22:10,279
be a roboticist. When I was
really a roboticist. I remember you you

1279
01:22:10,279 --> 01:22:13,079
were making a time machine at one
point. Yeah, I was really in

1280
01:22:13,119 --> 01:22:15,239
a minute man. It was a
Disney Channel original. It was Yeah,

1281
01:22:15,239 --> 01:22:18,640
that's why I want to make that
machine. I didn't remember that, but

1282
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:23,840
I I always thought you were very
creative and could do things and a good

1283
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:31,960
storyteller. Uh you write really well, right, I mean I've always had

1284
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,399
a talent for writing. You really
did. I mean even in college.

1285
01:22:34,399 --> 01:22:36,680
That was some of the stuff that
that really blew me away, was how

1286
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:41,199
well you you wrote and what a
great storyteller you are. You know,

1287
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,159
you could do uh lots of things. As this company grows, can maybe

1288
01:22:45,159 --> 01:22:47,359
we can find something for you to
do as a side hustle, so to

1289
01:22:47,359 --> 01:22:54,199
speak. And then you want to
go to law school. Yep, Well

1290
01:22:54,199 --> 01:22:57,079
I don't think that's lame. I
just I think it's it's pretty challenging.

1291
01:22:57,399 --> 01:22:59,960
Yeah, I mean, you know, I talked to somebody who did their

1292
01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:03,479
first year you B and said,
uh, it was one of the hardest

1293
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:08,279
things I've ever done. It's like
learning a new language, which I think,

1294
01:23:08,399 --> 01:23:10,760
with with you, sounds like it
could be a lot of fun.

1295
01:23:13,119 --> 01:23:17,640
I mean I've always done a lot
of really challenging shit. Yeah, nothing

1296
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,159
I have. I don't think I've
really done. No, you have.

1297
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:25,039
You have, You've you've pushed I
mean both you guys have pushed yourselves.

1298
01:23:25,079 --> 01:23:28,199
I mean you you certainly did it
with you know, your your track stuff

1299
01:23:28,199 --> 01:23:32,640
and weightlifting and U academics and all
of it. Yeah, so I know,

1300
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,359
I know, I think it's great. I think it's wonderful. I

1301
01:23:35,399 --> 01:23:41,560
think I think pushing yourself in where
you want to go is a great thing.

1302
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,119
You know, no limits. I
like that. What were some of

1303
01:23:45,119 --> 01:23:48,279
the funnier things? Do you remember
any funny stuff when we were kids,

1304
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:53,039
when you were kids, when I
was I remember one time I think I

1305
01:23:53,079 --> 01:23:56,439
turned nine or ten, and it
was you were on the breaker at the

1306
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,399
time, okay, and you guys
said, what's the worst word you can

1307
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,119
say? At nine? I think
it was Yes, we were on the

1308
01:24:01,159 --> 01:24:04,039
air, and I remember that I
said crap, and you guys said that's

1309
01:24:04,079 --> 01:24:08,079
not so bad, and then I
said all right. I was like,

1310
01:24:08,119 --> 01:24:10,720
all right, ask for it.
So I said fuck, And then Mom

1311
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,359
said you could. He was watching
the stream in the other room and you

1312
01:24:13,359 --> 01:24:17,600
can just see Danny dive for the
censorship. Yeah. I think we all

1313
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:23,119
laughed for that one. Well,
yes we did. Yeah, I think

1314
01:24:23,159 --> 01:24:25,199
I did. I asked you what's
the worst for it? Yeah, because

1315
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:27,760
I would call you guys on your
birthdays and stuff. Yeah. Now,

1316
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,960
tomorrow you guys are gonna do a
pub crawl, and we're thinking during the

1317
01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:33,640
plan, we're thinking during the podcast, we may call you a few times

1318
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:38,640
to see how you're pub cross going. What time one of those things?

1319
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,800
Probably around four? Yeah, that'll
work because we're probably gonna headed to a

1320
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,600
Chester cat by then. I don't
know what the I don't know, we're

1321
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,520
gonna figure it out, but I
remember that actually reminds me of something I've

1322
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:51,359
seen a lot on social media,
And I think would be really funny is

1323
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:57,600
um people will go to like weddings
or certain events or certain nights out and

1324
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,800
they'll record themselves and they'll be like, I like, they'll say their name

1325
01:25:01,039 --> 01:25:04,319
and this is my first drink of
the night. Yes, And then dude,

1326
01:25:04,359 --> 01:25:09,680
I've seen that too, counting through
like up to like twelve twenty drinks

1327
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,199
in the night. By the time
they get to like nineteen, they can

1328
01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:17,680
barely speak. Yeah, that's and
then the last one it's not okay,

1329
01:25:18,399 --> 01:25:25,079
and it's not as fun anymore,
well for me, for you, Yeah,

1330
01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:29,640
because I can see where you would
want to get buzzed, right,

1331
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,119
yeah, and then and then just
maintain that, but not where you're out

1332
01:25:32,119 --> 01:25:36,119
of control, not where you could
potentially get yourself hurt physically hurt by falling

1333
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:40,600
down or hit by a car because
you didn't you weren't paying attention, And

1334
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:45,399
not where you could get yourself in
any kind of trouble because you're saying stuff

1335
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:50,439
or maybe um overly affectionate, which
could certainly be misinterpreted by you know,

1336
01:25:51,039 --> 01:25:54,640
bigger guys. I used to say
that to you all the time. You

1337
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,479
know, when you're out you got
to be careful because you're one of the

1338
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,960
biggest people in the in the bar, are going to be the one they

1339
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:02,199
see. You're gonna be the one
they try to pick a fight with.

1340
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,840
And then you got you know,
muscles over here, who can be a

1341
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,960
little bit of a mouth himself.
A little bit of a mouth. Gets

1342
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,359
that from his mom, but you
know, get that from my mom.

1343
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,720
Oh oh, okay, says the
guy who makes a living off his mouth.

1344
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,000
Okay, yeah, it was a
joke. It was a joke.

1345
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:25,119
Conversation. Um, well, I've
I've enjoyed this. Some of it was

1346
01:26:25,279 --> 01:26:30,319
a little insightful. I don't I
hope things were good for you. I

1347
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,279
hope you had a nice foundation.
I always worried about that, and I

1348
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:39,119
think, you know, certainly as
the dynamic changed, it was a concern

1349
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:42,840
and I feel like it wasn't entirely
level at times, if we're talking foundation.

1350
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,960
But yeah, I don't know,
I mean, and it wasn't good.

1351
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,079
We were We came out okay,
it came out on the other side

1352
01:26:48,119 --> 01:26:50,600
a little crooked, but you know, figured it out, you did,

1353
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:55,439
Yeah, I did straighten it out. Which one do you think? Who

1354
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,279
do you think is the funnier one? Out of the two of you,

1355
01:26:58,079 --> 01:27:00,880
see naturally, I have to say
me, Yeah, I mean you're both.

1356
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,720
He is funny, You're the funny, do you guys. You guys

1357
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:08,279
have both had your moments even here
on the podcast the other night. I

1358
01:27:08,279 --> 01:27:10,800
mean, you were very funny,
and you've had some funny moments when you've

1359
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:16,000
been on before too. I've enjoyed
watching you two this weekend because I haven't

1360
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:20,119
seen you as adults together, and
it's been fun for you to It's been

1361
01:27:20,119 --> 01:27:24,199
fun for me to see that it's
funny. Not much has changed. The

1362
01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:27,239
only thing is instead of a soda
bottle, we have a hard soda bottle.

1363
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:31,159
Yeah, I know, but I
mean, Jackson is just exhausted.

1364
01:27:31,239 --> 01:27:34,720
I don't know what it is.
Honestly, it's probably because you didn't sleep

1365
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:39,039
last night. I slept hardly.
I slept to like what ten in the

1366
01:27:39,079 --> 01:27:41,600
morning. What are you talking about? We got home at mid at like

1367
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:46,239
eleven thirty, I like ten hours
of sleep. Yeah, But then as

1368
01:27:46,279 --> 01:27:48,920
soon as we got back to my
apartment before coming here, you passed out

1369
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:53,520
on the couch. That's all right? Yeah? Which is more lending presents

1370
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:59,920
because I think it is so not
even that it's lump, it's like it's

1371
01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:01,960
is like the leather. I don't
know. It's a crappy couch. I

1372
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:06,960
got it for free, that's what
that's what you get what you pay for.

1373
01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:10,560
I mean, are you you're saving
your money? You want to have

1374
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:14,119
furniture and everything. I'm probably gonna
go to either their Shapher Kike's list.

1375
01:28:14,319 --> 01:28:16,560
I found some good, leady voice
that's better than where I got mine.

1376
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,399
I get worried about the buying somebody
else's furniture. See I didn't even pay

1377
01:28:20,399 --> 01:28:25,600
for it. I get worried about
using Craigslist. But what for anything?

1378
01:28:26,199 --> 01:28:28,439
Yeah? For why? Well that
I don't know. It's just got a

1379
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,239
rep. You know. You can
meet a lot of really crazy people on

1380
01:28:30,279 --> 01:28:34,920
there. So that's so they say, Yeah, what was the scariest moment

1381
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:39,119
in your life at any point?
Have you had any really scary moments?

1382
01:28:39,159 --> 01:28:42,760
Which time? I mean, I've
died, I've almost died so many times.

1383
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:47,159
Will give me one? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, um hm,

1384
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:53,800
this wasn't really scary, but more
so shocking because I only saw the video

1385
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,600
of it and I wasn't there.
But when that guy crashed into our tree

1386
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,800
at the old house, Oh,
Jackson. Jackson was there, Yes,

1387
01:29:00,239 --> 01:29:06,000
Jackson, we were. We were
taping. It was Halloween, and I

1388
01:29:06,039 --> 01:29:10,520
happened to be in the garage and
I always had a little flipcam with me

1389
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:14,520
all the time. So I see
Jackson coming out and Jackson starts ranting as

1390
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,720
soon as he gets off the bus
about this weather better or not cancel Halloween

1391
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,279
because I want to go get some
candy. And he's doing this whole thing,

1392
01:29:20,319 --> 01:29:24,239
and I go, this is too
funny because he was emphatic, he

1393
01:29:24,359 --> 01:29:27,159
was serious, he had I mean, he had it down. This was

1394
01:29:27,199 --> 01:29:30,760
a he was just letting it all
out, looking whether ruining Halloween for a

1395
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,760
young kid, and what were you
in fourth grade? Fifth grade? I

1396
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:38,880
think it was in third grade,
third grade. It sounded like it sounded

1397
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,399
like listening to the old O'rightley factor. He was just so on a point

1398
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,279
he was. Then all of a
sudden, this kid comes down from the

1399
01:29:45,319 --> 01:29:47,279
high school and they used to use
our street as a cutthrough, So he's

1400
01:29:47,279 --> 01:29:51,800
coming from Mendon High School in Pittsford, comes down and hit some wet leaves

1401
01:29:53,239 --> 01:29:56,720
as he's speeding down this street.
Right because there was a four way stop

1402
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:00,760
there. You didn't have it ours
kind of looped through the four way stop.

1403
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,680
You could cut it off. He
loses control and all of a sudden

1404
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:09,119
you hear the wheels screeching, and
then he hits takes out the mailbox,

1405
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:13,720
slides across the lawn and stops short
of this giant tree in the front yard.

1406
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,000
And he stopped short or did he
hit the stop stop short? It

1407
01:30:16,159 --> 01:30:20,039
just like he and he did it
all wrong, like you should have you

1408
01:30:20,079 --> 01:30:24,239
know, you start spinning and fishtailing
one way, you should go the other

1409
01:30:24,319 --> 01:30:26,800
way. But whatever. The kid. So, the kid comes across the

1410
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:31,359
lawn and I am going, holy
shit, and Jackson goes running out there,

1411
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,600
hey hey, And everybody used to
make fun of me because in the

1412
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,840
video, and you can see it's
on my YouTube, I'm the only one

1413
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,319
asking if he goes, hey,
hey, are you okay? Because I'm

1414
01:30:40,359 --> 01:30:44,159
going, what an idiot? And
the dog's barking. There's mail everywhere,

1415
01:30:44,199 --> 01:30:47,159
It's all over the place, and
then jack said, Jackson goes over to

1416
01:30:47,239 --> 01:30:49,279
check the mail. The guy goes
out. Kid's like, hey man,

1417
01:30:49,319 --> 01:30:53,560
I'm sorry about your mail, and
Jackson's like, I don't worry about It's

1418
01:30:53,560 --> 01:31:00,279
just bills. It's all over the
lot. And then uh, yeah,

1419
01:31:00,359 --> 01:31:02,319
dude, I was just thankful that
you weren't at the mailbox. If very

1420
01:31:02,319 --> 01:31:05,319
well could have been you. You
know, we would send your kids out

1421
01:31:05,359 --> 01:31:08,960
to get the mail. And I
don't even know where I was that day.

1422
01:31:09,079 --> 01:31:12,800
Man. It's I mean, yeah, that was a that's something that

1423
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,479
that was a scary moment. Have
you had any real scary moment? I

1424
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,760
would say when the close have ever
come was when I was working on a

1425
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:24,159
landscaping company and I said, the
ramps wrong on the on the trailer and

1426
01:31:24,319 --> 01:31:30,039
the game and this guy his name
was Booby Boobie Booby Booby Booby, not

1427
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:31,680
Bobby. I'm not, I'm not. I don't work there anymore. The

1428
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:35,039
point is, hey, he was
driving on the thing and it tipped back

1429
01:31:35,359 --> 01:31:39,359
and almost scrushed. He's finding Bobby
and Mike's heart afterwards. But he escaped

1430
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,960
just a gash. The thing itself
was fucked. I got a picture on

1431
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,199
my phone I'll show you later of
the machine. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1432
01:31:46,199 --> 01:31:48,600
I was. I was not fired, as it were. But he

1433
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,119
didn't text me back. That's so
he goes in. He's our next door

1434
01:31:51,199 --> 01:31:57,119
neighbor. Now he is well down
one house over nagor you ever have you

1435
01:31:57,159 --> 01:31:59,800
seen him? Yeah, unfortunately I
haven't talked to him. I'm not going

1436
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:01,960
to. Well, like I deserved
to be fired, but he didn't fire

1437
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,920
me. He just ghosted me.
So I got no respect for him.

1438
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:08,079
Well the other individually, you know, I think that sometimes it's tough.

1439
01:32:08,119 --> 01:32:10,800
I think if you just if you
went up to him and just said,

1440
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:15,560
hey, I'm sorry this. You
know, I don't owe him that you've

1441
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:19,760
ruling the equipment. Okay, he
well, anyway, Yeah, that's fine.

1442
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,960
I got a two hundred dollars last
check. I'm never gonna see so

1443
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:26,840
I think we're pretty much even.
Um. And then for you, was

1444
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:30,840
it the summer you got run over
by jet ski? No? Not really

1445
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:38,520
seriously, No, there was one
worse that happened when I was much younger.

1446
01:32:39,199 --> 01:32:42,720
When I was eight years old,
I was down at the creek behind

1447
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:48,520
Park Road Elementary School with Jordan,
Joey and Bobby because we had been building

1448
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:53,079
like a little boat raft thing just
in the park with random shit that we

1449
01:32:53,119 --> 01:32:55,920
found. We'd take tools from our
parents' houses and use them. But if

1450
01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:00,399
you ever wondered where your hammers went
missing, that's where I like this.

1451
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,239
I actually love hearing this story because
it makes me go good. I like

1452
01:33:03,359 --> 01:33:08,520
it. I like is good that
we were on our way, I think

1453
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:15,239
out or down and I got stung. I got stung by a bee and

1454
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:19,399
I had my EpiPen on me,
but I couldn't fucking bring myself to stab

1455
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:25,600
myself. Yeah, so I know
no one there. I hopped on my

1456
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,600
bike and rode home, but my
chain popped before I could even leave.

1457
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:32,680
Jordan Elio was trying to get me
to hop on his bike. I eventually

1458
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:36,159
was like fuck that, flipped it
over, put it back on, took

1459
01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:42,239
off probably the fastest I've ever done
anything in my life. And I came

1460
01:33:42,279 --> 01:33:46,319
home through the EpiPen at Mom and
said stab me or I'm dead, And

1461
01:33:46,399 --> 01:33:48,399
she looked at me and she's like, what the hell happened. I'm like,

1462
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,239
I'm crying, I'm holding back tears. I'm like, I got stung,

1463
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:56,840
and I'm hardly breathing because you know, I just did the worst thing

1464
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,800
you can do, which is spike
your Yeah, sure, everything is going,

1465
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:04,880
it moves to your body faster.
And I sat down. Mom pulled

1466
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:09,039
me over, sat me down in
the counter and stuck me. And then

1467
01:34:09,079 --> 01:34:12,359
all my friends had to come and
see me like violently shaking like a tweaker.

1468
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:16,039
Yeah, I remember that that one
I do or not and they saw

1469
01:34:16,079 --> 01:34:18,560
it well, yeah, because you
had come home in the middle of that.

1470
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:23,880
Yeah, I remember one of the
kids coming to the door to check

1471
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:27,000
on it. Yeah, it was
Jordan got there first, and then Joey

1472
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:31,720
and Bobby followed because he rode back
faster than the other two. And they

1473
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,079
all walked in, and Mom,
I think you walked up to the door

1474
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:40,159
let them in. And then when
I was sitting there, Mom got up

1475
01:34:40,319 --> 01:34:44,359
and like walked them outside and we're
like, yeah, he's fine. I

1476
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,319
know he looks like he's dying,
but he's not. Now he's gonna be

1477
01:34:47,319 --> 01:34:53,079
okay. And that was probably the
scariest because like, I couldn't do the

1478
01:34:53,119 --> 01:34:58,159
one thing that was I was supposed
to do that the doctors trained me on

1479
01:34:58,199 --> 01:35:00,560
how to do. I just couldn't
do it in the moment. I don't

1480
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:04,359
I don't blame me on any of
that, I think, Um, yeah,

1481
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:09,439
I don't know. I mean I
blame myself. Being allergic to bees

1482
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:13,760
was bad. Yeah, you should
probably get tested for allergies again. I

1483
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:16,119
just see if there's some stuff that
you've outgrown and I don't know, but

1484
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,319
yeah, that was scary. That
was scary. That was probably the scariest.

1485
01:35:19,359 --> 01:35:24,399
All right, fellas, it has
been a pleasure and what a depressing

1486
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,119
ending. No, it's kind of
I mean, I know, I think

1487
01:35:27,159 --> 01:35:30,800
it's fine. I love I loved
you. I love that you were out

1488
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:32,479
making a raft in the in the
stream. I think that's awesome. I

1489
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,159
didn't know any of that. That's
to me, that's the greatest for Jackson

1490
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:43,680
Jordan's I'm their dad, Bill,
We'll see tomorrow. I didn't know what

1491
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,960
to do.