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Let's take a deep dive into the trenches at 10 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:48.320 the Senior Bowl with our guy, Parker Blake, who is there in person 11 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:53.560 and is ready to offer his insight. You are Locked On Bengals, your 12 00:00:53.679 --> 00:01:00.280 daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network, Your team 13 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:21.319 every day at Bengals fans and welcome to another episode of the Lockdown Bengals Podcast. 14 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:26.719 We're keeping things focused on the Senior Bowl for the fourth straight day. 15 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:32.400 Senior Bowl a big event, of course in the off season. Usually we're 16 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:36.079 talking about Bengals football at least the last couple of years around this time of 17 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:38.640 year, but this year we get to talk about the Senior Bowl, and 18 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:42.840 Parker Blake was down in Mobile. We're going to take a deep dive into 19 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:47.319 the trenches today in an episode brought to you by Prize Picks, the easiest 20 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.200 and most exciting way to play daily fantasy sports. Check it out at prize 21 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:53.439 picks dot com. Slash lockdown NFL. Use promo code Lockdown NFL for a 22 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:56.680 first depositive match up to one hundred dollars. I'm your host, Jake, 23 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:57.799 Let's go. He's your host, James Rapine. Like I said, joined 24 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:04.239 today by Parker Blake, who who is ready to talk trench guys. Trench 25 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:07.879 play in Mobile, Alabama. Parked this year first trip to the Senior Bowl. 26 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:10.599 Yeah, it sure was, man, I've been wanting to go for 27 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:14.199 a long time, but it just worked out that I was able to. 28 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:15.319 Now I got to find a way to get back next year. But it 29 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:23.599 was a blast. Yeah, let's discuss that aspect a little bit. Did 30 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:25.039 it live up to the hype for you? I'm sure there was a lot 31 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:28.599 of anticipation. I've never been to the Senior Bowl, been to the combine 32 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:30.520 a bunch heck made it to the super Bowl before the Senior Bowl. So 33 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:35.439 what's it like down there? Yeah? I know it was funny because I 34 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:39.080 was spent, like I feel like my main mission it even extended through like 35 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:42.719 day two. But I was like, I have to find someone else that's 36 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:44.479 their first year, because I ever want to talk to you, like, 37 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:46.840 oh, I've been coming for fifteen years, twenty years. I can't remember 38 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:50.520 how long I've been coming. And I was like, damn, like am 39 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:53.159 I the only new beat down here? But like it was funny because everyone 40 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:55.759 kept telling me. It wasn't like, oh, the prospects this year are 41 00:02:55.759 --> 00:02:58.800 better, Oh, you got a great year to come down. It was 42 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:00.400 like, man, what year to be your first year? This is the 43 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:04.840 best weather we've had in like decades, And it was we were all laughing 44 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:08.199 because on day two in day three was bad, but everybody was just sunburned 45 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:13.599 because no one expected, you know, to get sunburned in January, especially 46 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:16.639 even down in Alabama. So but I mean, I had a blast. 47 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:20.000 It lived up to my expectations. I had a great time watching. I 48 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:23.919 met a lot of great people, and I got the film last year from 49 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:25.439 the senior bowld. But being there and being in person, being able to 50 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:29.759 focus on what I wanted to focus on, even some of the interactions with 51 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:31.800 coaches they don't really get to see. That really was just what I was 52 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.800 there for, and I'm glad I got, you know, the most out 53 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:38.000 of that. What's the difference for you seeing the guys in person, seeing 54 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:42.280 the one on ones in person with offensive defensive line the team fields in person 55 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:49.719 versus the film perspective for you and your experience last week. Yeah, so 56 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:53.759 I feel like when you're watching the film, people just assume that, you 57 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:57.159 know, you get the all twenty two angles, you get the close angles, 58 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:00.599 but you don't really get a good sense of like actual game speed on 59 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:03.400 film. I know that doesn't really make a lot of sense, but like 60 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:06.520 seeing these guys move, how smooth they move, and the minution and what 61 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:10.360 they're doing can kind of get covered up on film with just a couple of 62 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:13.800 angles that you get. So honestly getting that side angle, especially the one 63 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.279 on ones. And as the days went on, I got a little higher 64 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:18.639 up in the stand, so I get even a better bird's eye view, 65 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:23.959 but watching hands a little bit better, watching how smooth they're moving and just 66 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.040 kind of like the mentality some of these guys took into it. I talked 67 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.800 a lot about how I felt all week the national team really lacked energy on 68 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:33.120 both sides of the ball. There wasn't a lot of energy, and you 69 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:35.759 want to especially with the D line, you want to see some of these 70 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:39.399 guys, you know, really be passionate about what they're doing. I know 71 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:43.240 that sounds dumb because they're going to the NFL or that level of prospect, 72 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:46.920 but you want them to be passionate about what they're doing and get excited or 73 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:48.720 be frustrated. And that's where there was a lot of talk about, you 74 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:54.639 know, justin oh what was his last name, Ah, the LSU defensive 75 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:58.560 tackle who ripped off Christian Hanes's helmet, and everyone's like, oh, that's 76 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.279 a big red flag for scouts. Honestly, that group was like in a 77 00:05:01.319 --> 00:05:05.079 slump for two days straight, and they actually had to come together in the 78 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:08.920 middle of one on ones. They brought everybody together and they talked for a 79 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:12.639 good like ten to fifteen minutes, and then they reset and got back at 80 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:15.920 it and they came out with a lot more tenacity and energy. Jordan Jefferson. 81 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:18.920 Jordan Jefferson, I knew it was way off with that one. It 82 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:25.319 didn't even sound rights to Justin Jefferson's. I remembered that, and that's why 83 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:28.360 I went for Justin. But anyway, but yeah, I think the energy 84 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:30.920 is the big thing they don't really get. I don't think it's a technique 85 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:32.759 thing as much. It's just really feeling how the guys play. And that's 86 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:42.240 that's why I like focusing on is there one guy that you were really super 87 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:46.000 low on or not as high on as consensus, and then you got there 88 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.680 and you saw him in person, and heck, maybe you talk to him 89 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:54.040 or you saw him just moving around, and then practice where you were like, 90 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:58.439 oh, now I get it, because I do think that that's the 91 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:01.680 benefit you get from going and seeing him in person. And certainly that's something 92 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:05.000 I think the NFL Combine is for, too, is for these scouts and 93 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:10.360 evaluators just to see and interact with the prospects and what a difference that can 94 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:15.480 make for some of those fringe guys that might have decent film, but some 95 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:20.040 scouts might be lower on that consensus. So Patrick Paul was a guy that 96 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:24.199 a lot of people were really high on it, including myself. I wasn't 97 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:29.480 low on him per se, but his profile was so like either really really 98 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:32.480 top end or really really low in because I thought on film he really struggled 99 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:38.079 athletically. He has all that length, and so what he would do is 100 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.199 he'd reached outside of his frame and was really gravvy. I'm like, this 101 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:44.160 dude is going to be a penalty magnet in the league. And so I 102 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:46.839 came down with a ton of questions. I actually tried talking to him a 103 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.399 bunch, and I really focused on him during a lot of his reps. 104 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:54.279 The first guy I watched in film was Patrick Paul. I just really wanted 105 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:58.160 to figure out what he was as a prospect. Throughout this whole process, 106 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:00.800 he was one of my main guys, and I think he did a lot 107 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.120 for me to really solidify, you know, his profile and kind of get 108 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:08.639 me there with him And where did you land? Where were you before? 109 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:13.000 Where were you after? And what were the things that changed your perspective on 110 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:15.720 where he should be evaluated? Yeah, I mean I had him as a 111 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:19.399 top top ten guy obviously, he had. He has the size and tackle, 112 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:26.240 not yeah at tackle, I'm sorry, Yeah, not overall I still 113 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:29.519 had him as like a top twenty five guy, a first round guy easy, 114 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:33.920 just because of the size of the pedigree. But I just, yeah, 115 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:36.560 his athleticism worried me, and like I said, his technique and so 116 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:41.240 watching him play, actually, I think I can see him now as a 117 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:43.879 top five guy. I think I currently have him as a top five tackle 118 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:46.759 in my rankings, and I'd say he's a top fifteen prospect in my eyes. 119 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:48.920 I don't know if a lot of people are going to see him that 120 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:53.319 way, but just from talking to him and listening to what he's been focusing 121 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:57.759 on it, I think he's very self aware about his flaws and his strengths. 122 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:01.759 And I think Duke the guy he's many whether who he's training with is 123 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:07.000 allowing him, like helping him see those flaws and see those issues, and 124 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:11.000 I really think he's focused on improving. I don't know, it sounds weird. 125 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.000 Again, it sounds weird all these guys should be, but I think 126 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:16.240 he's really locked in and that really helped me get there with him. You 127 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:20.879 think that the Bengals should target him at eighteen potentially obviously we don't know who's 128 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:24.480 there, but you would list him as in let's be honest here, our 129 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.079 listeners, Magic, we're all and we've heard of Patrick Paul, but a 130 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:31.560 lot of our listeners are getting to know these guys. You think that's someone 131 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:35.960 that they should at least highlight or put a star next to as a potential 132 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:41.360 candidate for that eighteenth pick. Yeah. So he played left tackle at Houston, 133 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:45.360 and I've talked about when you're I mean, I think we all have 134 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.480 this discourse last year, but when you're transitioning from left to right tackle, 135 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:52.279 I've always said it's a lot easier to project a higher, a better athletic 136 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.840 profile to switch. And I still don't think he's there athletically. We'll see 137 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.360 how we tests. But just watching him move around and even talking to people, 138 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:03.159 ask him like, oh, are you working both? Are you anticipating 139 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:05.639 trying to just make land somewhere at both? And he seems very adamant that 140 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:11.480 he's a lot more comfortable staying at left. I think the best answer I 141 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:15.120 heard was, you know, I'm more than happy to play right tackle, 142 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:18.200 but it's definitely going to take me a lot longer to get there. And 143 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:20.679 so I don't think the Bengals will target him purely for that reason because and 144 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:24.639 I don't I think it's a good idea. I don't think he transitioned well 145 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:26.039 to the right. I think he is a left tackle. I mean, 146 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:30.080 I'd love to have him in buying Orlando Brown. That's a guy that could 147 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:31.399 definitely help him figure it out in the league. But I just he'd be 148 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.159 he'd be a bench writer in my opinion. Real quick, just a fun 149 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:41.960 fact about him. He's Chris Paul's younger brother, but not that Chris Paul, 150 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:45.559 ladies and gentlemen, the Chris Paul that was a seventh round pick for 151 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:48.480 the Washington Commanders a few years ago. So just for those wondering, it 152 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:52.519 is Chris Paul's younger brother, but not the Chris Paul that's an NBA star 153 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:54.919 and going to be a Hall of Famer one day. And just to add 154 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:58.879 on to that, someone actually asked him about that on the field after a 155 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.960 practice. They're like, oh, you know, you asked him. I 156 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:05.120 remember how they phrased the question, but it was like super vague, and 157 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.879 like everyone around like started looking around at each other and was like, oh, 158 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.440 like crispake that Chris ball. 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Parker Tyler Guidon is a guy that we've 203 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.080 talked about on Twitter in the last few days or when you were coming back 204 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:13.720 from the Senior Bowl anyway, Jackson power was Johnson a guy that really made 205 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.200 a name for himself in Mobile. And Tovandre Sweat a guy that captured the 206 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:20.440 imagination of both James and myself and a guy that we've talked about on the 207 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:26.120 show this week as well. But let's start with or stay on the offensive 208 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.440 tackle side of things, Tyler Goeiton and Tally Essay fu Waga the biggest name 209 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:37.080 I would say tackles in Mobile. How did you come away with those two 210 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:39.600 guys in terms of where you had them before, where you had them after, 211 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:43.840 and what moved those evaluations, if anything, are confirmed what you thought 212 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:48.480 about those players. Yeah, So I'll start with Talisa Fuaga out of Oregon 213 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.600 State. He played right tackle. I'm just trying to help people get familiar 214 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:56.320 that aren't, but uh, he's a guy that I just I came in 215 00:13:56.360 --> 00:14:00.279 really, I wasn't not that I wasn't interested in watching it, but I 216 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:01.799 really just came in to see him on day one and be like, Oh, 217 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:05.840 is this the guy that I think he is? And he's every bit 218 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:11.679 of what everyone talks about him where he's physical, he's aggressive, he's athletic. 219 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:16.159 I do think he's got a little he has length issues. He looks 220 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.120 a little shorter limbed. I know his arms came in a little low. 221 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.200 His legs need to be short. He doesn't really have that length in his 222 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:24.600 set. But his athleticism helps make up for a lot of things, and 223 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:28.240 his aggression helps finish stuff that a lot of other guys just don't really have 224 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:33.120 the energy or athletic capability to do. And so I think he was, 225 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:35.240 through the first couple of days one of the guys getting guys on the ground 226 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:39.879 the most and just really invited everything that I thought he was as a prospect, 227 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.360 just them all or man And he's just fun to watch. So is 228 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:48.360 he someone you run to the podium too? Casual jog stroll? Yeah, 229 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:52.679 I think it really comes down for me at eighteen. If Newton's there, 230 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:54.960 you go Newton. You know, Jerseon Newton. But if Jerzon Newton's not 231 00:14:56.039 --> 00:15:00.679 there, it's Telisa's look. He's the guy, so exactly. He he 232 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:05.799 would be your realistic number one tackle. Just put it that for the for 233 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.000 the Bengals board. Yeah, he'd be my guy, the number one tackle 234 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:13.840 on the Bengals board. Another guy. I think that would be perhaps in 235 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:16.720 that conversation, I don't know. We talked a little bit about the Marius 236 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:20.039 Men's Tyler Goiton topic. But Tyler Goyiton was a guy at the Senior Bowl, 237 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:24.759 also played right tackle at Oklahoma, was a transfer, a little bit 238 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:30.039 of a late bloomer, a little bit older, working with Paul Alexander. 239 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:37.000 We talked about Patrick Paul working with Duke Maniweather, also working with Orlando Brown, 240 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:39.960 or has a relationship at least with Orlando Brown, former Oklahoma tackle as 241 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:45.759 well. Where did Tyler Guiton sack up compared to Fuaga and how are they 242 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:50.240 different prospects? Yeah, so Geyiton is like the exact opposite from a physical 243 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:58.000 profile, where he's tall and long and just has has like the prototypical NFL 244 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:00.799 tackle size. Right. That's where you get a lot of these guys that 245 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.919 are like, oh, well you can't, I can't coach size. I 246 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:07.200 might as well take a swing on the guy that has at least the measurables 247 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.799 and we can work on the technique. And Guiden was a guy that I 248 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:15.919 really hoped would show me that he improved, I mean, obviously not drastically 249 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:19.159 from the season ended just a couple months ago to now, but can show 250 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:22.879 some improvement. A lot of these guys showed some significant improvement technically, and 251 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:26.399 you can tell that they've obviously been working really hard to really clean up their 252 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:30.080 profile coming into the process. And he just kind of seemed like the same 253 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:33.279 player to me, and I guess I'm really high on him just because of 254 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:37.080 the size paired with his athletic profile. I think he's going to be a 255 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:40.720 really good tester and he moves really well. He's a strong guy, he's 256 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:44.639 a competitor. He was one of the few guys getting like amped up after 257 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:47.600 every single rep he took. I know it took him I think a full 258 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:51.799 day. Oh it might have might have only been half a session, but 259 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:55.279 it took him a longer than he wanted to get up against Chris Braswell, 260 00:16:55.720 --> 00:16:57.080 who was an edge out of Alabama because he knew he was one of the 261 00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:00.320 top prospects and his you know, his team that he was able to face 262 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.200 off against, and he was looking forward to that matchup for a long time. 263 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:06.200 When he finally got it, you know, he got down in there, 264 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:08.400 gave him a little the little, the little high five before the rep 265 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:12.000 and then you know, handshake after tap on the head and he's just yeah, 266 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:15.400 he's a big competitor. I love that drive out of guys. And 267 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:18.839 just from a technical perspective, he's got really active feet, really quick feet 268 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:22.119 for a guy at his size. His hands are the biggest question for me. 269 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:27.200 And unfortunately, throughout the Senior Bowl, I did not did not fix 270 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:30.400 that issue. I didn't. I didn't come out of the Senior but like, 271 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:32.400 oh wow, he really has improved hands. It's kind of like, 272 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:33.559 yeah, it's just like an issue we're just gonna have to deal with. 273 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:37.039 Is something that can be cleaned up in an offseason or two. Like and 274 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:41.119 like you talked about being a late bloomer, I know that's a really big 275 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:45.119 concern for some people. I don't really worry about that as much with these 276 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.200 guys being able to have, you know, ten plus year careers if they 277 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:51.680 can hit that level. But yeah, we'll we'll see, We'll see how 278 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:52.680 it goes. I'm interested to see how he tests. He's a big guy. 279 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:56.480 If he tests well, then I'm I'm feeling confident to take the swing. 280 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:00.519 I'd probably put him at two or three at the second or third offensive 281 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:04.599 tackle for the Bengals specifically, in my opinion, how do you think he 282 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:11.680 would fit alongside this offensive line? Orlando Brown junior obviously on the other side, 283 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:17.839 former Oklahoma tackle like Jake mentioned. But one thing everyone has seemed to 284 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:22.519 mention is the fact that the Bengals haven't used many premium picks on offensive linemen 285 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.440 in the athleticism aspect. So does the testing? Does it come down to 286 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:30.839 the testing for you? For Guiden as far as him being in contention for 287 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:34.640 the eighteenth pick and him testing as well as you think, I really think 288 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.359 it's going to come. I mean, it's obviously gonna be a couple factors, 289 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:41.680 but the testing is so big for him because if he can test well 290 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:45.839 like a top level tester in the class at that size, I just think 291 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:48.559 that's something that you have to It's almost worth the risk in my opinion, 292 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.440 especially in a year where they can I've talked about using this to kind of 293 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:56.839 build build on the draft position. How often you're going to be picking at 294 00:18:56.839 --> 00:19:02.960 eighteen? How often do you really invest capital draft capital into this position? 295 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.519 Go get a long term guy that you feel confident that you can work with. 296 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:11.759 But I as far as fit goes. I just man, I I'd 297 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.839 like to say he's gonna fit really well with the group. I mean, 298 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.359 you got Alex Kappa, who's next to Tristan works for at least I remember 299 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:22.599 how long that relationship actually lasted, but a couple of seasons at least, 300 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:26.599 so he's used to working next to more athletic guy. And I said for 301 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.680 a while now that the Bengals need a guy in the room that can be 302 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:34.319 that enforcer, that can be that aggressive play style type of guy. And 303 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:37.960 bringing guyton in, I think he is that guy and could be that guy, 304 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.680 and that'd be a huge boost to the room in my opinion. So 305 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:44.480 that's where I think he'd bring a lot to the room that they're missing. 306 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:48.160 And that's where I really like that pick him and fu Waga bring both of 307 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:49.880 those things. 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Any other tackles that really stood out 344 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:22.279 to you that you want to talk about as potential Bengals targets after what you 345 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:25.240 saw from them at the Senior Bowl. One of the guys that I've seen 346 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:27.160 a lot of people talking about, Jordan Morgan, a left tackle, came 347 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:30.720 back from an ACL injury, played really well after an ACL injury. Some 348 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:33.519 people would say better was it the Senior Bowl as well? But are there 349 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:37.519 any other tackles that you want to dive into and give some thoughts on for 350 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:41.599 a Bengals fit before we talk about some of these other guys. I don't 351 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:44.519 know. I've got a guy I'm saving for the end that I might I 352 00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:47.119 might just save for the end for now. Okay, we'll let you stand 353 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:51.400 on the table for him in a moment. Jackson powers Johnson, any any 354 00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:55.920 thoughts there? He obviously had a standout week, was one of the guys 355 00:22:55.920 --> 00:23:00.680 seen as a big winner pretty unanimously by those covering the Senior Bowl. Obviously, 356 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:04.759 though you have a positional value difference and a scarcity difference an interior offensive 357 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:10.319 line versus tackle, and you could talk about Christian Haynes potentially as a later 358 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:12.920 round to target on the interior if the Bengals were so inclined. But positional 359 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:18.559 versatility there potentially with JPJ. Did he really make a mark for himself for 360 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:23.200 you? Did he change and elevate his profile in your eyes? You know, 361 00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:27.400 I heard a lot of people talking about how he really, you know, 362 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:32.160 propelled himself into the first round conversation. I still see him as a 363 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:34.359 solid second rounder and that's not really a knock on what he did, but 364 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:40.039 just more speaking to the talent pool of this draft. I just don't know 365 00:23:40.039 --> 00:23:44.640 if the value is there outside of positional need for Jackson powers Johnson. I 366 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:48.079 really liked what he did. I thought he looked very strong. He's a 367 00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:51.359 guy where with his again, with his size, which is really good for 368 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:53.400 the position, and what he's able to do with his hands. I'm really 369 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:59.000 excited for what he can do again, multi multi positional. He's got he 370 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:02.480 checks all the boxes right and the one thing that I thought was missing on 371 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:06.240 his film was athleticism. I want to see him move well. I know 372 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:08.960 there's a lot of people to talk about how well he moved down the field, 373 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:15.279 and I don't know if it's an Oregon offense thing or him his play 374 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.160 style type thing. I didn't really see a lot of athleticism in his game 375 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:22.119 down at the Senior Bowl, so I'm really interested to see how he tests 376 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:25.680 again. If he tests well, that'll be the final box for me and 377 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:27.599 I'll be there with him. But that's the one thing holding me back on 378 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.960 him. With being at his size. I'd like to see him move a 379 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.720 little better to be like that top tier prospect that people are talking about. 380 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:38.240 But I really like his game. I think he's a fun player to watch, 381 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.920 has a great personality. But yeah, I just I'm not there with 382 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:45.119 him athletically, but I really like what he does in every other aspect of 383 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:48.880 the game. Love him as a prospect. I just he won't be my 384 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.319 center one, but probably gonna be my center two by the end of the 385 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:56.279 process. Yeah, there are to me outside of right tackle. There's still 386 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:00.960 a need, and this is probably a need that should be filled in the 387 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:07.000 draft for sure, because you're not sure exactly if like Jackson Powers Johnson might 388 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.319 start for the Bengals at left guard. If they drafted him eighteenth overall. 389 00:25:10.759 --> 00:25:14.160 But if you take a center guard combo on day two, day three, 390 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.319 early day three, that guy's probably not starting as a rookie. Are there 391 00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:22.319 any guys like that that you like? Because I think that is in need 392 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:26.519 and that's something that they need to address, and ideally it would be someone 393 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.359 that could play center and guard and back up all three spots if possible. 394 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:36.279 Yeah. I've I've been a huge fan of Christian Haynes since I turned on 395 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:38.839 the film, and I know a lot of people are going to be turned 396 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:45.279 off by him just because of the measurables, but he plays outside of those 397 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.240 constraints really well. He moves really well. And this week and again he 398 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:51.960 was a guy I was super worried about his play strength because he showed it 399 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.640 on film, but the games that I have access to right now just it 400 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:59.599 wasn't the best competition. So I was like, Oh, if I come 401 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:03.920 into this and come out of this week seeing him really like throw in that 402 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:07.200 anchor, be able to stand some of these guys up and be a people 403 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:08.759 mover in the run game, I'm gonna be really excited about this kid. 404 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.559 And he did all of those things. Throughout the week, and he's just 405 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:15.839 he's a maler, he's super aggressive. He's actually training with Tyler Geyton, 406 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:21.519 So take that from what you will, but I just I love that kid. 407 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:26.279 And he just is a hard worker and plays plays a lot bigger than 408 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.160 he looks and just has that play style that I that I love. And 409 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.519 so he's a guy that checks all the boxes for me, and he's gonna 410 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.319 be a later round pick. I think he'll slide because of his measurables, 411 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.359 and outside of him, I'm trying to think of guys. I mean, 412 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:45.680 Zach Fraser is a guy that probably would have been a top guy for me 413 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.559 in this class without the injury. But he's already ready to go. He 414 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:52.279 was patted up on day one. I didn't see him do much of anything 415 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.680 throughout the Senior Bowl, but it sounds like he's going to be a full 416 00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.200 participant in the combine. He's just he was the center out of West Virginia 417 00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.119 and he's he's a guy that I see as a multi positional guy as well, 418 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.920 where I just I love his game, I love what he can do. 419 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:11.000 Another guy checks all the boxes for me, should end up being probably 420 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:15.119 a late third rounder. If not early day three type guy, just because 421 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:17.880 of the profile and if he's really able to come back from that injury this 422 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:19.720 fast. But yeah, he's a guy that I want to buy a lot 423 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:25.559 of stocking before we let you stand on the table. Let's shift gears talk 424 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:30.440 defensive line really quick devandres but obviously the big stand out to me. But 425 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.119 as you were watching the defensive line, I'm curious to get your take. 426 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:36.160 We were just talking to Mike Venner about the trenches as well. He mentioned 427 00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:40.359 the Christian Hanse he thinks is long levered despite his short height, which he 428 00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:44.119 thinks is potentially an upside for him at guard, which is interesting. We'll 429 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:47.880 see how he measures and how he tests and everything. But the defensive side 430 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:51.720 of the ball, Mike Runner was a little disappointed for the most part outside 431 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:55.279 of sweat. What were your takeaways when you were watching the defensive line class 432 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:56.759 and did anyone stand out to you in a big way as the potential Bengals 433 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:04.039 target. Yeah, so the most interesting guy for me had to have been 434 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:07.799 Brandon Dorless out of Oregon. I think he played a lot of edge out 435 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:12.440 there, but he really mostly played inside at the Senior Bowl, and he 436 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:17.240 was very dominant in the one on one periods. However, we got the 437 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.079 team and it was like, you know, he'd be very hit and miss. 438 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.319 My favorite guy out of the entire D line group. And it sounds 439 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:29.559 like this is pretty you know, consensus. But Braiden Fisk Braiden by Kellen 440 00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:33.039 Brandon all Week. Braiden Fisk out of Florida State is an absolute monster. 441 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.720 He seemed unblockable at times. People just couldn't handle it, man, and 442 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.480 he was just fun to watch. Sounds like from what I talked everyone I 443 00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.559 talked to he was a great interview. Again, another high, high character 444 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:49.720 guy. People just loved hanging out with him. He interacted with fans every 445 00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:53.839 time he got the opportunity to. Just a great guy, great demeanor, 446 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:56.839 but just a monster on the field. And those are just guys you love 447 00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:59.720 to see. And I'm excited to see what he's able to do with the 448 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:03.839 next level bit. He's probably my defensive line winner of the week instead of 449 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:08.119 Devandre Sweat. So if they took him day two, you'd be pretty excited. 450 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:14.160 I would be absolutely amped if they took him day two. The one 451 00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:17.880 thing I'll call out about Fisk, of course, fit your senior was a 452 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:22.799 transfer, and that's he just ages. It's that time of year these old 453 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.160 guys. Man, I don't. I don't in a vacuum, but it's 454 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:32.200 a factor that you have to consider when comparing a guy that maybe is a 455 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:36.440 junior playing against the same level of competition compared to a guy that's two years 456 00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:41.200 older. It's in that time frame of life. Think about your life between 457 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:45.400 ages eighteen and twenty three and how much physical development occurs in that period of 458 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:51.119 life, and that that's also true for these guys in college football. But 459 00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.640 Parker said, we were going to let you stand on the table. You're 460 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.400 gonna have a couple of guys you've I think Fisk is one of your guys. 461 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.359 That was a little bit of standing on the table, but not not 462 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.000 necessarily as passionate as you might get about this other guy. I don't know 463 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.480 who it is. Go ahead, get up on that table. Yeah. 464 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.880 I know a guy that I thought was a huge riser this week, that 465 00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.480 I'd seen some people talk about, but just that I really loved his game 466 00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.200 and needed to see him tune some things up this week, and he did. 467 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:22.720 Was Kingsley, Sue and Mattea out a BYU. He played both tackles 468 00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:27.759 a lot all week and played both at a very high level, especially towards 469 00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:32.240 the end of the week. He showed an impressive anchor and he's he's a 470 00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:36.400 crazy athlete, man, And so my biggest concern coming in was he just 471 00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:40.839 played really out of control and really lean on that athleticism on film and even 472 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:44.799 earlier, like his Day one wasn't great, but his Day two and three 473 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.799 we were spectacular, and he explodes off the ball. Just getting to the 474 00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.400 second level, he just is easy for him. He handles linebackers like it's 475 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:56.640 nothing. And I just really came into the week need to see him like, 476 00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.920 hey, let's settle in past protection. Wise, don't just worry about 477 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.480 being athletic and mirroring guys. Really get a hands on, be powerful, 478 00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.599 set that anchor. Really just own some guys in past protection. He did 479 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.119 that through Day two and three, was getting guys on the ground. Was 480 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.519 really just he had very tight hands, wasn't as wild and crazy as I 481 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.519 had seen him on film, played a lot more under control even at the 482 00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.440 second level. Is a people mover in the run game. I just think 483 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.279 he does everything well. And I saw him come up on a lot of 484 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:26.920 people's boards throughout the week, and he's really impressed. I still don't think 485 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:32.119 he's going to be in the first round conversation because he's still very raw as 486 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.119 a prospect, But if you can get him into a building and really tune 487 00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.319 him up, I think he can really be a monster at the next level. 488 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:42.680 So Kingsley Sea round two, brock Bowers round one, you're a big 489 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:49.640 brock Bowers guy. You go with what's sorry, I'm already losing his name. 490 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.799 Hold on, hold on, hold on here, Christian Haynes round four. 491 00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:57.160 I'm just trying to find your guys. Parker. Yeah, I mean, 492 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.960 brock Bowers is definitely not my first round pick, but you're more the 493 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.400 welcome to keep telling people that so I can look like a genius when he 494 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.599 goes that earlier. Me and Parker have been texting about brock Bars for a 495 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.319 while. He's anti Brock. I'm all in. But if these if the 496 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:15.200 Bengals could end up with Sue Matteia and Haynes like that would just it would 497 00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:20.160 obviously increase the athleticism in the room, you know, one hundredfold, it 498 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.240 feels like at times. But those are just I don't know, man, 499 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.640 those are guys with really high ceilings that if you can if you can maximize 500 00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.960 that, then you're gonna have some real studs in this group. And that's 501 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:34.079 what the Bengals have to figure out with the floor ceiling conversation, what kind 502 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:37.319 of players they want to take, if they're guys that maybe need development time, 503 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.039 or how ready they are to hit the ground running. Some fun facts 504 00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:45.599 on Kingsley. Sue Mattea played both tackles at b YU, played left hand 505 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:52.200 right tackle, was apparently a five star recruit, but a cousin to the 506 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.519 Seweles Penne Sewell's cousin, and was a high school teammate a pukin Nakua, 507 00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:01.599 which I thought was interesting as well as some good NFL connections there for Kingsley 508 00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:07.440 Suomatea and if he's showing some improvement technically, it could be a very fun 509 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.400 prospect to talk about throughout the process. Parker, we appreciate the time and 510 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.240 you sharing your experience down in Mobile some of the guys that stood out to 511 00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:19.279 you. Excited to see your evaluations as the draft process goes on. Of 512 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.240 course, you can find Parker on Twitter and all of his work at Parker 513 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:27.079 Blake six, so you can find some of his writing over at Allbengals dot 514 00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.960 com as well, so make sure you check out Parker's work, give him 515 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.759 a follow on Twitter, and that's going to do it for this episode of 516 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.680 the Lockdown Bengals podcast. Until next time, thanks for listening, who Day, 517 00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:40.359 and have a good one.