1 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,519 We are back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, 2 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:27,600 senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist and your experienced sherpa on today's quest for 3 00:00:27,719 --> 00:00:34,039 Knowledge. As always, you can email the show at radio at the Federalist 4 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:40,119 dot com, follow us on x make sure to subscribe wherever you download your 5 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,240 podcast, and of course to the premium version of our website as well. 6 00:00:44,719 --> 00:00:49,600 I'm joined today and honored to be joined today by Brian Schimming, chairman of 7 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:55,520 the Republican Party of Wisconsin, also known as Lord of the Cheeseheads. Welcome 8 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,520 to the show. My friend, is that what they call me? I 9 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,359 get all these other names. I guess that's as good or bad as whatever 10 00:01:02,399 --> 00:01:07,760 I've heard. You know the family members. Yes, in your line of 11 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:11,319 work, you're used to some names, some choice names, that's for sure. 12 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,840 How are you doing. It's amazing to think that we are this far 13 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:22,040 along in the summer, this far along in the presidential political process, and 14 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:26,760 just literally less than a month and a half away from the big, big 15 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:30,400 party in Milwaukee. Yeah, it really is. In fact, we were 16 00:01:30,439 --> 00:01:34,159 just talking about that once we had gotten past our spring election, which is 17 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,480 in the first Tuesday in April, as you know, where we had some 18 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:42,319 great victories around the state. You know, once we got past that, 19 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:49,120 we were all kind of like you could feel the gravitational pull of the convention 20 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:55,879 already because we have you know, we have fifty thousand people coming to Milwaukee. 21 00:01:55,879 --> 00:01:57,799 I mean, Milwaukee is not a big city. It's about a little 22 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:04,760 over six hundred thousand, the metros about a million eight and so we have 23 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,840 fifty thousand people coming, including about fifteen thousand media people from every country in 24 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:15,240 the world. Milwaukee in Wisconsin will be the spotlight. The first ever national 25 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:20,680 convention to be physically held in Milwaukee. The Democrats had planned on having their 26 00:02:20,719 --> 00:02:27,159 convention there four years ago and they COVID ruled themselves out of having an actual 27 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:34,080 convention, and so really this is the first big show in Milwaukee, might 28 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,479 be the last one for a long time. So it's historic here in Wisconsin, 29 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:44,719 no doubt about it. And we all feel that pull of what's going 30 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,960 to happen politically, logistically, all manner of things. Yeah, indeed, 31 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,080 we're going to go into that in just a moment, But it is historical. 32 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,479 As you said, the Democrats had a go at it at least they 33 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,800 wanted to have a go at it twenty twenty when they were anointing Joe Biden 34 00:03:01,879 --> 00:03:07,439 at that time, of course, he shows up along with three or four 35 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:10,719 people and the Uber driver in the back. They're all masked and you know, 36 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,400 shaking in their boots at that time. So it wasn't really it was 37 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,159 a virtual convention. This will not be a virtual convention. How do you, 38 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,000 I guess the question I think that is most pressing on everybody's mind right 39 00:03:24,039 --> 00:03:32,080 now. How do you hold a presidential convention in a swing state Wisconsin? 40 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,759 Obviously that's a big reason why it is being held there. How do you 41 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:46,520 hold a presidential convention when your nominee is facing prison time from a kangaroo court 42 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:53,599 in Manhattan at this point, Yeah, hopefully the hopefully those kangaroos will stay 43 00:03:53,639 --> 00:03:59,159 there because really for us here and what's interesting, Matt is, you know 44 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,919 we're facing a situation where his sentencing is you know, there will be an 45 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:08,800 appeal. Of course, there'll be an appeal all the way up. If 46 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,360 that's what it takes. I don't have a lot of confidence in New York 47 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:16,560 courts. But presuming it goes into the federal appeal system and perhaps all the 48 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,319 way to the US Supreme Court. Mike Wadley, the National chairman, who's 49 00:04:21,319 --> 00:04:27,560 a friend, was in Wisconsin this week and he said, look, we're 50 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,720 going to plan for any eventuality. We're planning on the President being there for 51 00:04:30,759 --> 00:04:36,279 the Republican National Convention, which again, of course is basically starts Monday, 52 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:43,319 July fifteenth and goes for that week. We're planning them be there. We 53 00:04:43,399 --> 00:04:47,519 think that he will be there. We will plan for any eventuality. But 54 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,319 I know there's been some rattle around, Oh, Jamie, we should hold 55 00:04:51,319 --> 00:04:56,240 the convention earlier, you know, try to get around the sentencing. And 56 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,399 I don't get any sense that there's a lot of thirst for that. First 57 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:02,480 of all, is a ractical issue. It would cost one hundred million dollars. 58 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,439 I mean it would be you know, you're talking about sixty five thousand 59 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,439 plane flights, you know, hundreds of thousands of hotel nights. I mean, 60 00:05:10,439 --> 00:05:13,360 the list goes on and on. So there's just a practical issue there, 61 00:05:13,399 --> 00:05:15,399 right. But the truth of the matter is, let's just play that 62 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,600 out, man. Let's say that we said, you know what, we're 63 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:23,399 going to try to get ahead of this sentencing. You know what, with 64 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:29,240 one key stroke, this liberal judge in New York could change the sentencing date. 65 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:32,800 We could go drop fifty million dollars trying to change everything, and it 66 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,079 could be changed. So I don't instead of playing that game, you know, 67 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,879 we'll deal with it as it is. We're going to have a good 68 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,000 convention here. The money is being raised, the arrangements are being set up. 69 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,079 I just had a call from two calls from a couple other states today 70 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:53,399 where we might partner with them on events. Here. Everything is we're charging 71 00:05:53,439 --> 00:06:00,240 ahead. And if things change or the judge somehow tries to sentence Donald Trump 72 00:06:00,399 --> 00:06:04,199 to so he could not be at the convention, we'll deal with that then. 73 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:10,399 And frankly, that I don't think would be a good look for the 74 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:15,439 Democrats right now, is trying to jail a political opponent essentially one hundred hours 75 00:06:15,439 --> 00:06:18,759 from when he's going to be nominated. That is the Democratic Party right now. 76 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:24,199 Let's face it, therat is the Democratic Party in the United States is 77 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:29,439 full bore leftist Marxist and this is the result of that. We were talking 78 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:35,399 about this recently on the radio airwaves where Ronald Reagan got his start, who 79 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:43,839 out of des Moines. You were talking about if you thought you if you 80 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:48,079 ever thought you might be in a banana republic, you certainly woke up to 81 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:55,519 one. On recently, after that verdict in Manhattan, I had a press 82 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,240 conference up at the capitol here in Madison, about an hour and a half 83 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,680 after the verdict, and I said to the assembled press. They are all 84 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,720 there, all the stations, everybody was there, And I said, look, 85 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:14,519 the Banana Republicans are the Banana Republics are jealous of New York right now 86 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,199 because New York has turned this into a much larger banana republic, that state, 87 00:07:20,399 --> 00:07:25,240 and this whole way that they have treated Donald Trump. I said to 88 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,079 someone the other day, actually a liberal relative. I said to someone the 89 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,879 other day, you better be worried as a citizen in this country when federal 90 00:07:33,959 --> 00:07:41,959 agencies and the judiciary are weaponized against political opponents. I said, that truly 91 00:07:42,199 --> 00:07:47,160 is. But it's worse than banana republic. That truly, truly is something 92 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:51,480 that folks. You don't have to be a civil libertarian, self styled civil 93 00:07:51,519 --> 00:07:56,639 libertarian to believe that that's a problem. Well, Donald Trump is going, 94 00:07:56,639 --> 00:08:01,040 you know, regardless of what some people might think about Donald Trump. That 95 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,680 is not a place you want to be in this country. So I'm quite 96 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,240 certainly it'll go up on appeal. The appeal will probably be all the way 97 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,000 into the federal appellate system and maybe all the way up to the US Supreme 98 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:16,120 Court. Time will tell on that. But if but you're right, I 99 00:08:16,199 --> 00:08:18,639 mean, this isn't an In fact, I was telling you the same person, 100 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:24,000 this isn't your old Democratic parties, you know, Harry Druman, even 101 00:08:24,079 --> 00:08:30,759 John F. Kennedy Democratic Party. This has been taken over by radicals whose 102 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,840 public face of the party, you know, or the aocs and Rashida Talib's 103 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:41,919 and all these crazies that run that party. Now the Democrat Party has officially 104 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:46,519 crossed the bridge and they have crazy people running it. I'm not so sure 105 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:52,080 if we had a situation today like we had before where you had Bernie Sanders 106 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,440 and Hillary Clinton, that Bernie Sanders would end up going to the Democratic convention 107 00:08:56,759 --> 00:09:01,320 and getting nominated the Hillary people that were enough of the folks before where they 108 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,039 could stop it. I don't know that they could stop it now because the 109 00:09:05,039 --> 00:09:07,759 Democratic Party has gone crazy. Now, Matt, you know, I'm a 110 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,679 Republican. I'm a Conservative for Madison, Wisconsin, which when I speak at 111 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,799 events across the country or in national media, nobody can ever believe there's a 112 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,600 Republican from Madison, Wisconsin. But I literally grew up right next to the 113 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,759 University of Wisconsin campus. I was a little guy at the end of the 114 00:09:24,799 --> 00:09:30,679 Anti Warriors. When Sterling Hall was bombed on the University of Wisconsin campus, 115 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:37,759 it literally shook our house. We were that close. So I am used 116 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:41,240 to all these radicals, and I'm you know, I've dealt with a lot 117 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:46,639 of these people, and the sons and daughters and grandsons and granddaughters of those 118 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:52,559 sixties radicals are now that that you know, blew up that building and the 119 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:58,600 University of Wisconsin campus, They're now trying to blow up the country. They're 120 00:09:58,639 --> 00:10:01,960 now seriously trying to blow up all the norms, all the things that we 121 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,320 treasure as Americans. In this election in twenty twenty four, I think is 122 00:10:09,159 --> 00:10:11,039 pivotal. I mean, like we always say right that this is the most 123 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,960 important election ever, We're at a crossroads and all those sorts of things, 124 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,759 and that is certainly true here, but I think it's bigger. It's not 125 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,519 just one issue. You know, sometimes you'll have Obamacare or the board or 126 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,799 some issue that kind of is a highlight of an election, and I think 127 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,919 it's the whole deal, the irony of which for Democrat folks that I know 128 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,720 who thought they were moderates and thought they could get away with voting for Joe 129 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,440 Biden four years ago, because he's not as bad as some of these crazies. 130 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:46,960 Joe Biden has been the president that Bernie Sanders wished he could have been. 131 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:52,519 Joe Biden gave them what they want. Brian Shimming, who is the 132 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:58,919 chairman of the Republican Party of Wisconsin and the guy responsible for the biggest part 133 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:07,480 this state has seen in a very long time, excluding Badger's Rose Bull But 134 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,919 nonetheless this is going to be this is going to be a big party. 135 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:15,600 I want to stick with that point, Brian. You just mentioned it and 136 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,720 what you saw, what you experienced as a kid in the nineteen seventies around 137 00:11:18,759 --> 00:11:24,279 Stirling Hall u W. Madison, the anti war years that went on. 138 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:31,519 Madison has always been known as a bastion for let's be generous of spirit here 139 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:39,480 of left wing thought. Others would say of the lunatic asylum. I'm not 140 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:46,200 casting a dispersions there. But I guess that's the question, is what you 141 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:50,960 saw, what Wisconsin saw, what the nation saw during the anti Vietnam warriors 142 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:58,039 of the seventies. Are we this is a whole new generation of extremists. 143 00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:03,679 How worried are you that the convention in Milwaukee starting on July fifteenth, going 144 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:11,080 through that week will have to deal with some excesses, if you will, 145 00:12:11,399 --> 00:12:15,159 I'm very concerned about it. In fact, it has come up recently just 146 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,320 today, the ACLU filed suit against I believe, the city and County of 147 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:26,440 Milwaukee about some of the restrictions that are in place for protests in Milwaukee at 148 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,960 that time. Downtow Milwaukee as the river going through it, but also is 149 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:37,960 kind of a grid system of streets there and highways. And I will tell 150 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,000 you that I've had an office on and off of Milwaukee for a very long 151 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,840 time, worked for three previous Republican governors. I've been in Milwaukee thousands of 152 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:52,559 times. I will tell you that. So there's been this issue about a 153 00:12:52,720 --> 00:13:03,159 public park that is relatively close to the convection site. And while that's certainly 154 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,960 an issue because of its proximity the convention site, I think the bigger issue 155 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,679 in any convention city would have had to deal with this. Let's be honest, 156 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:16,679 Matt. They are going to have thousands of paid protesters on the streets, 157 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:22,120 paid professional organizers on the streets of the city of Milwaukee, trying to 158 00:13:22,159 --> 00:13:28,200 close down streets, hotels that delegations are staying in, venues that we're having 159 00:13:28,279 --> 00:13:33,799 events at around Milwaukee. There has been you know, there's been obviously a 160 00:13:33,919 --> 00:13:39,200 very considerable law enforcement planning operation between the Secret Service, city, county, 161 00:13:41,639 --> 00:13:48,240 Villa, you know, dozens of municipalities. So a national convention is always 162 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:54,720 one of the biggest security organizing events of whatever year it's being held, because 163 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:58,919 you have tens of thousands of people together, well the tens and who knows, 164 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,559 maybe Chicago will be crazy too when the Democrats are down to Chicago, 165 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:07,679 but ours probably will be crazier because of the type of people. I mean, 166 00:14:07,879 --> 00:14:11,639 you generally don't get people out of the young Republicans and some of our 167 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:18,720 groups doing what the crazy lefties on campus or you know, some of the 168 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,799 radical leftist groups we have to deal with are willing to do. So. 169 00:14:22,039 --> 00:14:26,399 I think there is a very high concern amongst our people. I think the 170 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:31,919 city and county folks in Milwaukee. We've had a very good partnership with them, 171 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,679 even though our party affiliations are not the same. But you know, 172 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,720 they don't want to mess down there. But I think there's reason for caution 173 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:45,080 there, and so I'm not telling one to stay away. I'm not tellingone 174 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,200 to be afraid of coming to Milwaukee. But the truth of the matter is 175 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:54,519 they're happy to do anything to disrupt not only the Republican Convention, but to 176 00:14:54,600 --> 00:15:00,879 disrupt the possibility of Donald Trump becoming president. We saw in the lead in 177 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,919 New York recently. We will probably see it in the streets of market. 178 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,519 This is Pastor Matthew Harrison, President of the Lutheran Church Missouri Syentate. The 179 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:16,200 LCMS operates the second largest parochial school system in the United States. What can 180 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,759 you expect from a Lutheran Church Missouri Centate school. There's one race, the 181 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,120 human race, and Jesus died for the sins of every man, woman and 182 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:30,720 child from every land and every nation. Life begins a conception. All life 183 00:15:30,759 --> 00:15:35,440 is precious, from womb to tomb, and every student, parent and teacher 184 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:39,279 is created in the very image of God. There's right and wrong, and 185 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,720 we know which is which. From the Ten Commandments, there are only two 186 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:48,360 sexes, male and female. He created them. Marriage is the lifelong union 187 00:15:48,399 --> 00:15:52,519 of one man and one woman. There's such a thing as objective, absolute 188 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:58,240 truth, and it's found in the person and work of Jesus Christ and his 189 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,440 word. To find a church Missouri sentis school near you, visit LCMS dot 190 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:08,080 org slash schools. It's just it's an entirely different level than it was. 191 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:15,399 I remember covering the twenty sixteen convention in Philadelphia for the Democrats. Apparently my 192 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:22,120 news organization didn't like me very much at that time. I drew its amazing 193 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,519 I drew the short strong Now you were in Cleveland that year, I would 194 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:32,679 imagine for the RNC, which was I think a lot more peaceful, better 195 00:16:32,759 --> 00:16:37,720 run. But you remember in sixteen we had the Podesta emails. We had 196 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:45,200 we had the poor congresswoman from Florida who was run out of Philadelphia on a 197 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,919 rail. Of course, because the Bernie Sander acolytes were just you know, 198 00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:52,279 and we had a lot of tension, there, no doubt about it. 199 00:16:52,519 --> 00:17:00,000 We had actually we had what was billed as a fart in and this is 200 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,799 Google this. Now, this is true. The Bernie Sanders people were so 201 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,720 mad about the rigging. The fix was in, of course, as the 202 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,599 Podesta email showed us for Hillary Clinton. The DNC was all in for Hillary 203 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:22,079 Clinton. And what the folks who backed Bernie Sanders literally did a Saul Olenski. 204 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,240 They were around their kettles of beans. They were going to do a 205 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,799 collective massive gassing, if you will, of that Philadelphia arena. That was 206 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,960 gross, but it's nothing in comparison to what could happen, of course, 207 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:44,079 when you get what we've seen on college campuses over the last semester at UW. 208 00:17:44,279 --> 00:17:49,880 Madison, at Columbia, at UCLA wherever. I know that you have 209 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,680 been working very closely with the Secret Service. They can only say so much 210 00:17:53,720 --> 00:18:00,839 obviously about security and planning. How confident are you with Secret Service running the 211 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,519 show security wise? Well, I don't have a day to day role with 212 00:18:03,599 --> 00:18:07,359 Secret Service, I will tell you obviously. The RNC and so there's two 213 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:14,279 committees essentially, the MKAE, which is shorthand for Milwaukee in airline terms, 214 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:21,079 that deals with security. Various government law enforcement have been working hand in glove 215 00:18:21,279 --> 00:18:25,319 with them, as you know, and it's been public that there's been some 216 00:18:25,519 --> 00:18:32,000 dissatisfaction with the head of the Sacred Service with respect to getting some of the 217 00:18:32,039 --> 00:18:37,440 properties that are a little bit closer to the convention site offline for some of 218 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,680 the protest groups. And this is not a matter of saying there's going to 219 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,960 be plenty of places to have protests. But you know, I just say 220 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,400 to local officials I know in Milwaukee, to other people, Look, if 221 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,200 you went through everything you went to bid for this convention, they have fifty 222 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,279 sixty thousand people in town, and don't put the property security into place, 223 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,720 and you have problems, you will have a big convention here. Again, 224 00:19:02,319 --> 00:19:06,519 so it's not even a partisan thing. It's just you want a safe, 225 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:14,440 secure environment where protesters can have their moment and if they want to have their 226 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,039 fart in, you know, down at the Democrat convention, which might be 227 00:19:18,079 --> 00:19:25,960 an improvement actually, which okay, is it you know or whatever? Who 228 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,000 says liberals don't watch blazing saddles, you know, if they want to have 229 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:36,359 those kinds of protests. Look, when I was I was on the radio, 230 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:41,720 I was covering for our acquaintance, Mark Belling, when the Democrats out 231 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,319 there announced they're going to be Miwaukee, And I said, look, before 232 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:47,799 I was party chairing, but about I said, look, it's great. 233 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:51,720 It's going to bring all sorts of business like this convention this year will be 234 00:19:51,759 --> 00:19:56,240 a two hundred million dollars spend, tens of thousands of hotel rooms, hundreds 235 00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:59,119 of that. I mean, it's great, right, It's terrific for the 236 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,079 region and for the city, who've never had a project of this size. 237 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:10,319 But you know, do I have a concern level sure, because they will 238 00:20:10,599 --> 00:20:15,519 ship in as many people as they can. We are also perilously close to 239 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:21,440 Chicago and to very Democrat Illinois, and so I'm quite sure we'll have a 240 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,559 lot of tourism from Chicago and from Illinois Democrats coming up from there. So 241 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:30,799 it's going to be interesting in Milwaukee, am I. I you know, 242 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,720 I'd like to say that I have no worries about any of it. I 243 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,279 think overall it's going to be fine. But the left, to your point, 244 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,759 this isn't I mean, I hope we don't have a situation that the 245 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:48,240 Democrats had in nineteen sixty eight in Chicago. I hope it doesn't end up 246 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:51,640 there. I know people are working very hard to make sure it doesn't end 247 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,880 up there. But to your point, the left is crazy these days. 248 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,519 So when I was doing that radio show when they announced the Democrats convention, 249 00:20:59,599 --> 00:21:02,039 I'll say, look, I'll show you what a nice guy I am. 250 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:10,319 I will personally pay for aoc Alexandro Ocasio Cortes to come to Milwaukee so we 251 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,559 can show the difference between her and between us. And so if she wants 252 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:19,599 to come in to bracket the event and to waive her flag during the Republican 253 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:26,519 Convention, I'm just fine a buyer dinner. Brian Shimming, chairman of the 254 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:30,559 Republican Party of Wisconsin, joining us on this edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. 255 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,079 To your point, and I do remember that in twenty twenty when the 256 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:41,119 announcement came down, it is it's a very lucrative, can be extremely profitable 257 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:47,039 for the host community, and it has a good many benefits. But I 258 00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:49,680 thought in twenty twenty when they announced this, of course COVID going on at 259 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,039 the time, and who knows what was going to happen, But we also 260 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:59,519 what was going on at the time, massive Black Lives Matter protest. You 261 00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:03,240 remember what that Marxist movement did to the city of Kenosha for God's sake what 262 00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:08,480 it did to Chicago, you know, And so we've seen this movie before. 263 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:12,839 But to the point on the Chicago, the Democrats in Chicago, I 264 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:18,680 think it very well could be a nineteen sixty eight style situation for them. 265 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,400 You already have a mayor who clearly hates the police. He's got to work 266 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,880 with them to try to bring in security they already have. You know, 267 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:33,119 if they if the Democrats make Chicago secure during that week, the rest of 268 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,759 Chicago for the rest of the ear, they're going to look at them and 269 00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:41,759 say, what about us? What about the rest of the year. Now, 270 00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:45,160 with all of that, what I don't understand is the complaint about the 271 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:52,039 protesters having enough space, the ACLU complaining that they're not close enough. As 272 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:56,200 I understand it, Brian, in Chicago, they're three miles away from the 273 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,279 event site. With you, folks, it's like less than a mile if 274 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,759 I have that correct. There is a blocks. Yeah, it's not far 275 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:07,720 at all. And part of the issue is the immediate proximity to the Five 276 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:11,920 Serve Forum, which is where the Bucks play and where we're having the convention. 277 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,200 And part of it too is you'll have thousands of people who are staying 278 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,240 at hotels throughout the Milwaukee area. I mean, Milwaukee is a wonderful city, 279 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,640 but we don't have a lot of real large hotels in downtown Milwaukee. 280 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,759 So we have people, you know, over dozens of locations around the city 281 00:23:27,759 --> 00:23:33,160 of Milwaukee. Well a lot of them will be walking or busing or driving 282 00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:40,359 past that park the one part in question to get to the five Serve Forum. 283 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,640 So I just hope that common sense prevails here. I think it will, 284 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,799 But I hope common sense prevails with the Secret Service, with the city 285 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:55,079 and with the county to make absolutely sure that visitors to Milwaukee are in a 286 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,480 safe environment. But I mean Milwaukee, you know, made a very assertive 287 00:23:59,519 --> 00:24:03,480 and frankly a very good bid for this convention. They want it for a 288 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:06,319 reason. Of course, there was a lot of interest in having it here 289 00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:10,799 in Milwaukee, because Wisconsin, as you point out, important swing state, 290 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:17,200 one of seven. And so it doesn't help Milwaukee or the City of Milwaukee, 291 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:22,480 or the County of Milwaukee, or the Visitors Bureau for the City of 292 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,880 Milwaukee to have a disaster here in Milwaukee, because those are images that people 293 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:33,319 partisanship aside, Those are images that people will not forget. So when I 294 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,400 talk to folks who are involved on the secarity side of this and on the 295 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,960 governmental side of this, I just say, look, Milwaukee and Wisconsin cannot 296 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,799 afford to have that disaster. And if it means to your point like Chicago, 297 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,079 that people ought to be a little farther away, still plenty of opportunity 298 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,039 to protest, They'll get their coverage anyway. But let's face it, it's 299 00:24:56,039 --> 00:24:59,400 a game. They want to be as close to the Pfiser Center, the 300 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,279 conventions site to try to disrupt the travel and the event itself, and law 301 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:10,640 enforcement folks planning simple shouldn't allow it. Indeed, well, let's shift here. 302 00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:14,839 Let's focus on what it takes to put on a convention, because I 303 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,240 know you've been dealing with this, planning for this for a long time now, 304 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:23,559 but here we are within a month plus of the big bangs close. 305 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:30,880 What's it take to put on the largest quadrinial party that your party puts together 306 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,640 and give us a sense of what each of the days will be like. 307 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:41,119 Yeah, I'm on a committee of arrangements for the convention as the home state 308 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,839 chairman. And it's interesting because again, we have two committees who have done 309 00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:51,000 fantastic work the convey the RNC Convention Committee itself, and then the official committee 310 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,920 for the city, the MKA Committee. But it's literally thousands of logistical details. 311 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:03,000 In a sense, conventions are are very similar that way. It's security, 312 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:11,240 it's hotels, it's hundreds of vendors for everything from posters to you know, 313 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,480 lanyards, to know whatever, elephants to you know, whatever you can 314 00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:23,640 name. It's a staggering logistical enterprise. It truly, truly is if you're 315 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,279 going to pull off a successful convention. And let's just be honest about it 316 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:32,440 here, a convention is a five day show. It's a five day show, 317 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,079 and you want the show to go as well as it can go during 318 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,119 those five days. In those days basically matt for folks who haven't been through 319 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,880 it before or not, you know. On the planning side, most folks 320 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:52,880 will come into Milwaukee on Sunday and so there'll be seminaugural activities on Sunday. 321 00:26:52,400 --> 00:27:00,440 But each state there's actually fifty six states and territories, so the territories also 322 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:06,599 have delegations to the convention each state and territory. Every morning, whatever hotels 323 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,880 or wherever they're staying will have their delegation meeting in the morning, usually between 324 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:17,400 eight and nine o'clock. Basically a couple of things happened those delegation meetings. 325 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,200 They brief them what the day is going to look like. Secondly, there's 326 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,400 oftentimes a speaker who will come in, a member of Congress, you know, 327 00:27:26,599 --> 00:27:33,599 somebody out of the Senate, maybe future past candidates if they're desperate. 328 00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:38,960 Me I will go into trying to jack up the delegations and you know, 329 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,640 remind everyone what we're all there to do. And then they hand out different 330 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,200 sets of credentials. Every day. You actually get a different set of credentials. 331 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,160 Is I recall every single day you're there, and that's a security thing 332 00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:59,440 to make sure you know, credential different credentials are flying around, so in 333 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,759 a different set of credentials every day at that meeting. So that morning meeting 334 00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:07,920 is an important thing. Most of the activity, in terms of the actual 335 00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:14,440 convention activity is at night, usually starting at six or seven o'clock. There 336 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,599 might be a day or two that where it starts a little bit earlier, 337 00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:22,480 but most of the action you'll see is either at least late in the afternoon 338 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:27,079 or six or seven o'clock when you have speakers Monday and Tuesday night. There'll 339 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,880 be actually the week before Matt as you know, of the Republican National Committee 340 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,160 of which I'm a member, will be meeting in Milwaukee. So the week 341 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,200 before the convention will be in committee meetings and other than prepping for the convention 342 00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:45,880 and handling other R and C business. But that next week when the convention 343 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:52,720 is starting on Monday the fifteenth, will be pretty much delegation meetings in the 344 00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:57,240 morning other scheduled events. Of course, a lot of states and the territories 345 00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:03,680 either on their own or come together delegation events, parties or whatever. You 346 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,799 know, you better love caffeine because a lot of times, a lot of 347 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:15,160 the events that are being sponsored aren't until after the convention activity at night. 348 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:19,559 So let's say you're off the convention floor at nine or ten. Oftentimes your 349 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,799 state's activity, their party for the day, or maybe a joint event that 350 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:27,480 they're doing, is after that. So there's going to be a lot of 351 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,640 late night frolicking in Milwaukee. You know, I had someone telling me yesterday, 352 00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:37,440 oh, you know, you'll never get to bed before two o'clock in 353 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,119 the morning, So I'd be like, College. And by the way, 354 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,799 Brian, any of the joint events that you want, you'll have to drive 355 00:29:45,839 --> 00:29:51,119 a bit to the south where the Democrats are holding theirs. The weed is 356 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,920 still illegal in Wisconsin, folks. Just you yeah, yes, if you're 357 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:02,359 into mind altering substances that can't be consumed from a glass, you'll uh, 358 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:07,400 not off a glass, but from a glass, you'll have to go south 359 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,319 of the border, so to speak. But you know, so it's it's 360 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,799 uh. And then in the afternoon, uh, you know, there's some 361 00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:21,920 folks setting up seminars, will have a convention kind of a trade show area 362 00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:25,440 that's kind of going to be in an l around the convention hall in the 363 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,319 street in the streets kil Vernon out in front of the convention hall, where 364 00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:33,400 you can buy all manner of things. So a lot of the vendors, 365 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,960 there are hundreds of vendors involved, Matt from the Milwaukee area, so you 366 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,559 know, we're hoping that they do well. So really, your daily convention 367 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:47,200 schedule, and I'm generalizing of course, will be delegation meeting at your hotel 368 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,920 in the morning, and then a day of you Now, the mornings usually 369 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,519 aren't too busy, but the afternoons pick up because other events are going on. 370 00:30:56,079 --> 00:31:00,240 We have essentially the whole Summerfest Park, which is on the side out 371 00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:03,960 side of the city, not far from the middle of the city probably what 372 00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:07,240 is that a mile and a half or a mile from the convention hall. 373 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,480 It's closed, Yeah, it's pretty close. Will be having everything you'll be 374 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:17,039 able to do as a delegate or alternate or guest will be bus We have 375 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,079 convention buses that will essentially take you everywhere that you need to go during the 376 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,880 day. So all that logistical planning for doing what you do during the day 377 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:33,279 required or otherwise. But most of the hard work of freedom so so to 378 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:37,279 speak, will be on the convention floor starting at you know, late afternoon 379 00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:41,319 or six or seven at night. That's kind of when the show is, 380 00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:45,200 so to speak. But all the media will about fifteen thousand media in from 381 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,319 all across the world, and you know they'll be covering everything, you know, 382 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,559 everything from individual delegates, alternates, guest stories, things about the city 383 00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:57,720 of Milwaukee. You know, they're looking for stories, they're looking for something 384 00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:01,920 to talk about, and there'll be fifteen thousand media outlet's trying to do that. 385 00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:07,039 So people are going to know Republicans and the city of Milwaukee and the 386 00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:10,279 state of Wisconsin a whole lot better by the end of that week Wednesday night, 387 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,960 So it starts Monday night. Wednesday night will be the vice presidential nomination, 388 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:21,400 Thursday night will be the presidential nomination, and then we'll wrap up after 389 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:27,960 that, and so Friday will be recovery. The Democrats are counting on your 390 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,839 economic ignorance so they can get re elected. The Watched Out on Wall Street 391 00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:36,279 podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and 392 00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:38,519 the economy and how it affects your wallet. The Left wants you to think 393 00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:44,480 that oil companies and grocery stores are ripping Americans off. Meanwhile, they just 394 00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:47,400 want to get back into office to keep printing trillions of more dollars. 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Well, 404 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,559 I do want, as I think I mentioned to it's it's actually from 405 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:44,960 a timing perspective. My birthday is the sixteenth, the Tuesday of that week, 406 00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:50,319 and so I have to keep some self respect about being the state chairman 407 00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,359 of the host state. Of course. INDI so I mean, but I'm 408 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,640 encouraging others to embarrass themselves on my behalf. I just have four words for 409 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,319 you. In the circus lay just breathtaking, it really is. And I 410 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:08,320 just say this, Brian shimming in tights. That's that's where the action is. 411 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,840 I'll tell you what. If I'm in tights by the end of the 412 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,639 week, I'll be in a body bag. So let's keep a good thought 413 00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:22,920 just a little bit. And obviously you are spending long hours already every day, 414 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,960 and they're going to get incredibly that much longer come the week before. 415 00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:30,519 In the week of the convention, and then, of course there's the post 416 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:37,119 mortem stuff that you do afterward. But let's take a look ahead to November. 417 00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:42,719 How confident? As we mentioned before, it's very well known Wisconsin, 418 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,360 in the terminology of a former president, is one of the deciders, or 419 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,920 at least it has been over the last few election cycles in this country. 420 00:34:52,320 --> 00:35:00,599 How confident are you in the Wisconsin Elections Commission, the regulator that I've had 421 00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:06,119 some problems for sure in the state of Wisconsin when it comes to following election 422 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,079 laws and election integrity. How confident are you in the Wisconsin Elections Commission? 423 00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:17,880 How confident are you that this election will not have the same kind of irregularity 424 00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:24,519 certainly and ultimately as a state audit showed the kind of election law breaking that 425 00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:30,159 we saw in twenty twenty. Yeah, great question. Ron Johnson and I 426 00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:32,679 talk about this a lot. I was on the road this weekend in Wisconsin. 427 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:38,960 I was in Eauclaire actually addressing this specifically on Saturday, and then down 428 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:45,840 in down in Elkorn and Walworth County on Sunday, and what I say to 429 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,440 people is, look, you know, we've had our issues with the Wisconsin 430 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:57,599 Elections Commission, which in many states, the election the administration of elections is 431 00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:01,239 centralized under the Secretary of State. That is not the case here in Wisconsin. 432 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:07,679 Is done by the Wisconsin Elections Commission, which is a separate commission made 433 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:14,119 up of six people, three Democrats and three Republicans with alternating partisan chairs. 434 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,679 We are often not happy with all of their decisions. We have an okay 435 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:23,559 relationship with them, even with the strong disagreements we've had. I will say 436 00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:27,239 this though, and this is what I said when I was on the road 437 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,639 this weekend. Look, we recruited fifty five hundred poll workers here in Wisconsin. 438 00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:36,400 In Wisconsin, by state laws, you have to recruit poll workers for 439 00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:40,480 elections like we have this year the year before. So we recruited fifty five 440 00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:45,719 hundred poll workers. That is to say, the people who help the local 441 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:51,920 clerks literally work for the local clerks as partisans, and the Democrats nominate them 442 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,920 too. We nominated fifty five hundred, a new record, and then we'll 443 00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:00,599 have poll watchers as well. I always say to people there's always concerns about 444 00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:06,239 local election administration, but also the supervision of it, to the extent there 445 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,239 is supervision on the state wide level. We can't take any chances. I'm 446 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,320 done with that. And as you know, I was on the Trump recount 447 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,400 team here in Wisconsin. I was part of day Browser's recount team, former 448 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,960 Supreme Court Justice Processer's recount team when he got re elected. And my attitude 449 00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:30,440 coming into this is election integrity is a number one issue for this Mike Wadley, 450 00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,039 the new national chair, was in this week. He and I talk 451 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:36,679 about this all the time, and the truth of the matter is I can't 452 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:42,880 rely on local or state election officials to make sure the vote is handled correctly. 453 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,000 Not because I distrust local election officials. I know a lot of them, 454 00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:50,760 I have good relationships. But the same deal I've been sending to those 455 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,280 folks is look, state law, within reason, is pretty clear on how 456 00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:01,119 to run local elections. We want to be helpful in that regard because it 457 00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:07,960 doesn't benefit anyone to have elections not being run by the book. But in 458 00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:10,199 cases where it's not being run by the book, we are a going to 459 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,119 call them on it to get it corrected as fast as possible, or B 460 00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:20,320 will go to court. And we have gone to court. We went to 461 00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:27,199 court in twenty twenty two in Green Bay where they tried to force our poll 462 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,039 workers out of the hallways where they had the election machines where they couldn't observe 463 00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:39,519 what was going on. We were in court order from county Court in Brown 464 00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:43,679 County, which is where Green Bay is, that forced the clerk to allow 465 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,960 our people back in. We had situations here in our April election in Stevens 466 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:54,199 Point where the local Democrat clerk tried to run background checks on our legally submitted 467 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,519 poll workers, so we called them on that. Also over in Green Bay. 468 00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:06,360 Again the Green Bay they were having three third party groups. We're having 469 00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:09,079 essentially what I think is a vote buying event in a park where they are 470 00:39:09,079 --> 00:39:14,320 giving free stuff away to folks who were saying they were voting. We got 471 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,639 on the DA by nine o'clock in the morning on that. He sent them 472 00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:20,559 a letter within an hour, an hour and a half shut the event down, 473 00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:23,199 and they still had to pay their twenty five thousand dollars for the event. 474 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,639 I mean, those are kind of anecdotal things. But what I'm telling 475 00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:32,639 you about is that with a Democrat governor and the ability to pass the elections 476 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,519 laws we wish we could have, And if you and I sat down over 477 00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:40,039 a couple of beers in a barnapkin. We could write elections law the way 478 00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:43,400 it ought to be, but I have to deal with it the way it 479 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:49,760 is. And that means constant, constant vigilance on Republicans part. And if 480 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,159 that means working with the local clerks, with poll workers, it'll be that. 481 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,519 If that means going into court with attorneys, it'll be that. We 482 00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:02,559 will for the first time recruit hundreds of lawyers in Wisconsin this year. Part 483 00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:06,519 of the problem the Wisconsin side, Matt, as you know, is we 484 00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:09,639 don't have other state chairs asked me about this all the time. In Wisconsin. 485 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:15,320 We don't have partisan voter registration. In Wisconsin, you don't register as 486 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,679 a Democrat or as a Republican. So it means lots of money for voter 487 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,719 id for turnout, for all those types of things. So Wisconsin's probably to 488 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,840 be candid one of the toughest states in the country on election integrity. I 489 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,960 have three full timers on the staff here on the election integrity effort. We're 490 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,960 on the phone every single day around Zoom's with the Trump campaign, with the 491 00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:44,639 RNC. So whatever we have to do on our end at the Republican Party 492 00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:49,639 of Wisconsin in partnership with other groups or with the rn C. We're going 493 00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:52,000 to do it, and I don't see that as an option or as a 494 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,599 way. I hope we can do it. We have to do it. 495 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:04,079 Brian Shimming, who is the chairman of the Republican Party of Wisconsin and very 496 00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:08,960 much integrally involved in the big party in Wisconsin coming up in just a few 497 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,960 weeks, It is really right around the corner. A final question for you, 498 00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:16,599 sir. I appreciate the generosity of your time joining us on the Federalist 499 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:24,559 Radio Hour today. You mentioned it. Wisconsin's a different animal, you know. 500 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:30,920 Having grown up in the Badger State, you know it's all second nature 501 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,440 to me. But you're going to be bringing in tens of thousands of people 502 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,320 from across the country, in the world, and some of them, unfortunately, 503 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,119 have not experienced Wisconsin yet. And I don't know why they haven't, 504 00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:49,039 that's on them, but they will for the first I'll say that. Yes, 505 00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:55,079 So what advice would you give the visitors coming to the Badger's State for 506 00:41:55,119 --> 00:42:01,480 the first time. It's advice I give to anyone who's a lifetime suggestion, 507 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:08,639 eat cheese curds before you die. Unfortunately, eating cheese curds might help pause 508 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,800 the last That's right, Oh, that's a good point. Where are the 509 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,480 best cheese curds? That that's the going to do a list of those. 510 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:20,519 Actually, I've had folks from other states asked me to do kind of a 511 00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:24,360 short list of things to go see and to go eat in Milwaukee and having 512 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,119 I mean, look at me from grant out loud, you know, having 513 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,440 had a lot of experience eating out in You and I have had a cheese 514 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:37,119 curd or two in our time. We have exactly one of these days, 515 00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:40,960 I'm going to have this kid that I've been caring for about fourteen years. 516 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,719 You know, Wisconsin, as Lee Dreyfus used to say, is a it's 517 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:54,800 a twenty third sound place. It's a wonderful, wonderful state. And southwest 518 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,559 Wisconsin, you know, about seventy percent of the population, as you know, 519 00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:05,119 matt is in what we call a Golden triangle between Milwaukee, Green Bay, 520 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,679 and Madison. So there are going to be a lot of things to 521 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,559 do. People will learn a lot about Wisconsin. I was saying to somebody 522 00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:17,239 at a meeting the other day. The practical side of this is that a 523 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:22,079 lot of people will come back to Wisconsin because of this convention, whether it's 524 00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:28,079 for the cheese girds or for that liquid we brew in large vats and various 525 00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:32,159 breweries are on Milwaukee and around the state for whatever that might be. People 526 00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:36,880 are going to learn a lot about Wisconsin. This is an opportunity, as 527 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,679 I say, not just a political show, but a tourism show for the 528 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,679 state of Wisconsin. Look, as you know, I'm a homer, so 529 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:50,199 I'm biased, right, but I'm so excited to be state chairman when this 530 00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:55,280 national, really international event is going to happen. I think I mentioned you 531 00:43:55,559 --> 00:44:00,719 I was down at the recommendation actually have a Democrat friend of mine to go 532 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,840 down to the Iowa caucuses and straw poll events, which I've done a couple 533 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,960 of times, and I learned. As much as I've been around this business, 534 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:12,639 I learned so much about politics just even in the couple of days I 535 00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:15,760 was down in Iowa. This is a similar experience when I talk to people 536 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,960 that I've appointed to be delegates or alternates or on our guest list. Everyone's 537 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,079 going to learn as being you know, from being part of this show. 538 00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:30,000 And I think at the end of all of this, We're going to find 539 00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:36,119 out what the Republic is about, not the Republican Party, but the Republic 540 00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:39,719 and how we save the Republic between now and November, because I think in 541 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:45,760 the end that's the bottom line. The freedoms that we enjoy and sometimes take 542 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:51,719 for granted, right are all on the line on November fifth, and everything 543 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,679 that we do between now and then. I said to the group and eu 544 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,480 Claire the other day, I said, I don't need a poll to say 545 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,639 this. The victory is out there, the win is out there. We 546 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,719 just have to go get it. And that's the job for us between now 547 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,320 and November fifth, is to get the victory, get the win that I 548 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:16,679 know that people want, and save American I couldn't agree with you more, 549 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,480 Brian, when it comes to this election, and we always talk about it, 550 00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:22,920 you mentioned it before. We always say every four years, the most 551 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:28,400 important election ever. And I think the folks in eighteen sixty might have a 552 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,119 disagreement with that, you know, or the folks in you know, in 553 00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:36,679 the Great Depression, the World World War, they might have a different opinion 554 00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:40,000 of this. But this, really, this really is a bottom line election 555 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:45,840 about the existence the continuation of the republic that we hold so dear, and 556 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:53,280 I think that is extremely I think what you just said is extremely precient. 557 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,440 We'll see what happens, of course, in the coming weeks, and don't 558 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,480 forget when it comes to Wisconsin. If it's good enough for Fonsie, it's 559 00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:06,719 good enough for me. The Fonzie statue is still up in downtown Milwaukee, 560 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:12,360 and I guarantee you that convention week thousands of people will be over there taking 561 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,320 pictures with it. Indeed, thank you Brian Shimming for joining me on this 562 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,920 edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. Brian Shimming, of course, is the 563 00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:27,599 chairman of the Republican Party of Wisconsin. In a matter of just a few 564 00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:32,199 weeks, the city of Milwaukee will be hosting the Republican Party's biggest party in 565 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:37,400 the last four years, and tens of thousands of people will descend on it. 566 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:43,639 We will be there covering that with my Federalist colleagues as well. I 567 00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:46,119 will be there in person covering it too. Thanks again for your time. 568 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,039 I do appreciate it, Brian. Yeah, wait for you beer. I'll 569 00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:53,199 buy the first beer and cheese curds. Don't forget that we could look we're 570 00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:57,400 wasting away. We could use some more cheese curds. You and I I 571 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,079 am looking a little peakan. So you've been listening to another edition of the 572 00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:06,519 Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittles, senior correspondent at the Federalist. We'll 573 00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:10,480 be back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom and anxious 574 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:23,559 for the fray. I heard the fame boy the Reason, and then it 575 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:30,079 faded away.