Are they or are they not? I' m friends who are or s
so hi how do you like it? I' m Luis Miguel Salgado.
For me it is a privilege, a pleasure and an honor. To accompany
us in one more chapter of what a good question. I' m really
happy today because an exceptional woman is with me. You have ever heard the
term female medicine, the term man medicine, surely because there is a book
out there circulating, that you have to look for these kinds of people,
people medicines, no or people vitamins. They are also known, and the
truth is that for me it is quite a privilege. Presenting Natalia, Natalia
Carrillo, she' s a medicine woman. We' ll talk from your
worldview. Evidently, why? Like when, what this is all about,
but it' s an honor for me to join us. It' s
today, nat Natalia Carrillo, how you are. Welcome, Hi Aley Miguel,
well well, very happy, really of this invitation you' re giving
me. I' m really feeling prada. Thank you so much for this
invitation. And, well, I also confess you a little nervous because there
' s nothing prepared, I mean, I don' t know what you
' re going to ask. And that' s great, because it'
s a very, very nice challenge. So do I. Thank you very
much And let me, let me tell you, Natalia, that I have
never told all my guests absolutely anything. Then it gets good, good,
and then there are questions that I' m telling you about Let me introduce
you please to my guest as she deserves. Natalia Carrillo is a woman of
medicine from the Andean worldview. For more than five years she started a project
dedicated to women, called from woman to woman with Natalia Carrillo, where the
intention was to bring a positive message and the expansion of awareness of the women
who attended these talks. Now the Community has grown both face to face and
virtual, but above all it has evolved, because it has become an inclusive
community where men, thank you, not what good, men and women participate
and connect with their deepest being and it is to notice how important it is
to live in consciousness, how important it is to connect with our being,
to connect truly and authentically, not as some coaches who tell you leave this
little curly or some of those who call themselves coaches who see a Facebook cursito
most of someone else and call themselves coaches. Natalia has found her personal and
spiritual development. For this reason, it has now become the project that carries
the message of it, which is to be in balance. And this is
a wonder, because, obviously, if we, we could really find balance
in everything we do in our being in our way of thinking, of speaking,
of feeling, of listening, of transmitting, of sharing, really believe
me that we would be other people and we would be living another reality.
Soluis Miguel Salgado and all of you, as I always tell you, if
that' s okay with you, let' s start, Natalia, I
like you again. Welcome and good. The question I always ask all my
guests is a mandatory question for anyone who wants to participate with me. This
is the guillotine. And before I talk about everything you' ve done,
about your achievements, how your project was born, etcetera, I' d
love to talk about taking away all the medals, what you studied, what
you didn' t, etcetera. Who' s Natalia Carrillo. Welcome,
good. I think that' s a question that could be complicated after a
while. It' s very easy, Natalia Carrillo, because it' s
me, it' s me and everything I am in every way, with
my lights, with my shadows, a true woman, since speaking of gender,
because I' m a woman who has been allowed to meet, to
recognize herself, a woman who has allowed herself to evolve, to progress and,
above all, to grow, to learn And I think she looks,
for example, many times when they go with me, she tells me that
I don' t know who I am. And I say to them,
' Cause you' re the one, right now. I mean in the
sense that we' re never the same. I don' t mean,
I evolved and I' m someone else who was a few years ago.
So the one that is now is this woman who meets every day, who
recognizes herself and who learns from everything that father hears, Right now, I
listened to you and you said I evolved. It can evolve, involve,
that is, in the opposite direction, instead of growing, shrinking, diminishing,
It can go backwards for lack of self- love, of affection,
of respect. You can involve, I think you can, in the sense
that all life is change or all is change and sometimes the processes that we
have in our life make us feel at that moment at the best, small,
small. But it doesn' t mean we' re stuck there.
I think it' s something important and very characteristic of the human being that
we never got stuck. We' re always changing. We may sometimes change
and feel bad, feel sad, small, as you say, with a
lack of self- love, with shortcomings, with needs, but we also
change and evolve and feel better. So, from the point of being constantly
changing, I think we can do both the moment the circumstance requires. Now.
I ask you about this because there are people who tell us and I
know particularly one in particular that says I. I' m like this.
I, it' s like this, like this, I' m not
going to change. I' m like this. This is me I love
myself so much. And the truth is, they don' t have the
slightest intention of changing, they don' t have the slightest intention of moving.
This person feels perfect, feels unique, feels special. And I think
that' s also a mistake, a serious mistake. Not because, obviously,
you just said it very well. Everything changes, everything changes, everything
changes. The world revolves and, evidently, the world if the world turns
everything in it, obviously we tend to change. However, those people who
are afraid of change, those people who don' t want to move an
apex, those people who don' t really want to do absolutely nothing to
them. That is where the greatest number of problems arise. No Natalia notice
what you said, this person says I' m unique and I' m
special good I support that person in that sense. Why, because we'
re all unique and special. I' d say Luis Miguel. There'
s no one in the world in the universe who' s like you being
the only one and that' s why he' s special and on the
subject of saying I don' t want to change so I' m good.
I consider it more than a pretext for not being responsible for situations.
However, I am sure that if we have a conversation with that person,
that person will realize that he has changed at best, not in what we
expect, in what we want or what we would like him to change more.
However, I' m sure he' s changed, he' s
not the same person. But sometimes this part of saying that is like I
don' t let you tell me what to do. I don' t
allow myself, but it' s my pretext. But from what this zebra
has changed, from what it has made clear, because, obviously, there
are now people who change because the literal time changes them, not because it
goes to their body. It' s not the same, because they'
ve lived experiences, because what you order and command. However, I think
it does take a change of conscience, as you say. There is no
lack of this part of having a clear conscience and of having a conscience that,
evidently, allows them to recognize their mistakes and transform their lives. Now
please tell me a little bit about this concept of woman medicine and why the
Andean worldview and not another worldview, as I can be. I don'
t know about a Latin American worldview, because maybe some Mayan worldview, some
worldview, I don' t know about any other culture. Tell me,
yes, note that I also at one point wondered why Ambina And then I
remembered that, since I was little Luis, I really liked Andean music.
I listened to, for example, the condor' s song happens as if
it wasn' t hin or so it was like I sang it. And
all that way I' m back then, when I started to take it
I know it. If you want, let' s have a mayonero song,
grab on. I don' t love all this. I love that
music. So I didn' t understand how I liked it, but I
was even weird, not that at my age I was making a little girl
I was listening to that music. So, when I started my path,
that' s what I call my healing path. Conscious, as you rightly
said. I met an Argentine teacher a long time ago and she spoke to
me well, she told me about this concept of woman medicine and went with
her. In fact, I' ve been studying with her for three years
now. She' s my teacher who' s always there, there,
there, with all her classes, everything she does, everything she does just
a little bit came to Mexico last year to give a retreat for initiation.
As a priestess and I entered my party. Then I am also initiated priestess.
Then it' s Andean. Then I followed her and it was something
that connected me a lot. I have friends in the middle that is dedicated,
for example, to the Mayan culture, and they talk about the highlights
of this whole issue, but I don' t know, it' s
not something that has called me, it has called me much more Andean.
And then it' s something I really liked. And then you have a
concept that is called from woman to woman with Natalia Carrillo who evidently now came
in men, because I think she looks independently at the women' s groups
the men' s group. Evidently, and speaking of genres, I don
' t understand the life of other genres. I understand the life of male
and female gender. The jin and the yang, the black and white,
the top and bottom of the right and the left. No, yes,
it' s exactly the moon. So that' s my worldview of life
and well, here I don' t agree. You can go on with
your life, but at least this is mine. What I do want to
tell you is how important it is for you. You' ve opened and
you' ve received men, why. Because we do a conjunction. There
are groups that are exclusively women, there are groups exclusively of men, but
men have noticed the two neurons we have, and one of them is always
hungry. We have realized that, of course, women are extremely important.
Moreover, I dare say that you, as women by gender, are superior
to us because you have other abilities, you have a way of working.
You guys are multitasking, we' re not us. I really insist on
that joke. But we can' t. We can' t, we
park and we have to turn down the volume of the car, because if
we don' t think it' s not, it' s a neuron
that' s putting out the tras. No, then I explain here.
The interesting thing is that you give men the chance. What has been the
experience of before men participated and now, please, good. I would like
to comment first on why I initiated this project with women. Ok I started
him like women, because I made a change in myself and I said the
fla phrase Luis Miguel was all women must know that there is a way to
ferr to live than not. It' s all what they told us I
had to do, not to be quieter than we are. We can be
free, we can live alone or with ourselves. As I say happy truth,
because I knew and from my own experience a concept of couple where you
have to be. Anyway, truth and well, I changed that part of
me I said women have to know, they have to have other information.
So I wanted to work with women and men, like they said to see
women, women and in the process that' s why I put evolution,
because this already Natalia evolves and says to see Natalia, if you want balance
in your life, not everything is the female you have that well, you
have to decide to have this balance with the male energy. Okay, so
I say male welcome, not also because my own male, my own male
energy and the male and female energy of men. So, then, I
said being in balance. To be in balance, not only do I have
to be female, but also this male one. And it' s balance.
And something very interesting happened, because we opened with workshops like that of
childhood wounds for men, that of healing, of female lineage for men,
with rite of uterus. And then men mention thalya is to wait. I
don' t have a uterus. How you' re gonna heal the uterus.
No, I mean, you don' t have a uterus, but
you come from one of a kind. We' re going to heal that
uterus and all the uteruses that come after that and then we did a retreat
that was called a healing man. It was a wonderful challenge because for starters,
a lot of people were telling me how you' re going to be
with men. You' re gonna teach them if you' re a woman.
Yeah, then I' ll answer my question and so on. The
comment is that men are also human beings and also feel and have many needs,
many deficiencies and, above all, have so many things inside their hearts,
because they were told to shut up. Don' t cry, don
' t say, don' t express me. And then, but in
the end, when we were in retirement, I fell in love with all
the men. I said how beautiful real men are, because they have a
zote heart that' s what they have, for example, on the subject
of women, their strength is in the uterus and men in the heart and
they' ve turned them off so much that they can' t. You
' re telling me and I even want the truth. It' s just
that I want to tell you that it' s good that you' re
doing this, what a bonus that you' re doing, how good that
you' re projecting it this way, because, obviously, the female energy
and the male energy in a woman is very well matched with the male energy
and the female energy of a man, of a male. So, obviously,
that' s why we have such a deep connection with women and you
with us, with men. Now, tell us a little bit about what
the Community is about, what they do when they meet, what they share,
what they share what information if someone wants to participate, hear, where
I can locate them, etcetera. Well, here I fay in Zacatecas,
Mexico. Here we do retreats in a face- to- face way,
we do workshops. Also something I started doing were couples circles. So it
' s a wonderful pairing type, which I love. I love couples because
they go and I tell them it' s not that you have a problem
already with your partner, but that you discover a different way to love yes
to the one we were taught, Dad and Mom. I' m not
telling you what Dad and Mom were like. Well, this is it.
Well, they taught you because I really think I think you might notice that
that' s a sorry one You' re intruding really ugly, but I
just want to cut something short. The truth is, they didn' t
teach us. Well, at least to me, my parents never taught me
how to treat a couple. There are no parents, but they are the
least of my generation, the parents. He was a father among fifty eighty
of my companions, a single father or a single couple who told him to
see. You treat a woman like that. You treat a man like that
and he was reciprocal. You know what I mean. A man is treated
like this, a woman is treated like this and with respect. But really
the parents never taught us, at least in this generation and I can almost
assure you that also in these new generations no one teaches how to treat the
couple. Luis Miguel, if I told you that your parents did, you
taught me yes, because, obviously, I believe that, from what I
saw from his testimony, so you saw, as you saw the relationship between
them. How Dad treated Mom, How Mom tattooed Dad, How Mom treated
you like Dad treated you, so you said that' s no. And
you, consciously or unconsciously, whether you have a partner or you' ve
seen you treated your partner and someone told me one day, but I'
m not with my dad. I told him, okay, you learned it,
your dad, I don' t want to be your dad. Then
somehow, yes, I mean, we learned from there there are no others.
Okay, okay, so, maybe, they didn' t say it,
but you did see it and come on then they meet up and have
couples talks. We make women' s circles. We also do workshops face
- to- face, in a virtual way, for example, people who
are not here in Zacatecas. I' ve got training. I train women
to be women' s cycles guides. He also made stop healing the female
lineage and right now. I haven' t opened, because I did have
but not open virtual circles. But a hundred formations. Then, there we
could be for people who are out at retreats as well. They can come,
they have come to the women' s retreats of Tijuana, Bonterrey,
that is, from Mexico City, from other sides. So it' s
not like impediment instead not also ok ok. So the interesting thing here is
that if you want to participate, there' s the instagram appearing on your
screen. Natalia Carrillo, medicine woman. There you can find her on Facebook,
you can find her as a woman to a woman with Natalia Carrillo and
they are also in Spotify Natalia Carrillo, Woman Medicine, and evidently, they
are appearing. But I also told them to those people who just listen to
us. And, well, I' d love Natalia to be able to
ask you different things. No good questions, no good answers, no bad
answers, just questions. So let' s play with the imaginary. Let
' s know a little bit how you think, why you think, what
you think, etcetera. And I' d love to know, for starters,
that you told us. Imagine you won the lottery, you won the
battery, but not the other day he told me, sir, I won
the lottery and I really did, yes and how much he won. If
it' s not registration, oh, I earned 300 pesos and then he
told me but it' s the lottery. Yeah, dream, but well,
we imagine you win the lottery and you earn$ 140 billion, that
is, an amount of money. What are you doing with all that money?
Natalia, I spend it, I invest it. No, I mean,
if I already earned it, it' s because I deserve it,
then I take it. I say something comes to me, I take it.
Yes, to life, yes to everything. Then yes, I take
it and do whatever comes to me. I want to buy everything I want
at the time, and I do what I want. I don' t
know right now that I feel like it. Okay, I take what'
s coming to me and I' m fine, I' ve been afraid
of those millions. How wonderful. What is the achievement. I know you
' ve had a lot of achievements in your entire career, your whole life.
I' m not asking you about a particular professional achievement or a particular
personal achievement. It can be professional, personal, family, etcetera. What
has been your greatest achievement or one of your greatest achievements in life. Look,
Luis Miguel, what it was like to find me awaken my conscience.
That has been my greatest achievement. I mean, really, if you'
d known Natalia maybe, not so much about maybe six seven years ago,
it has nothing to do with this Natalia. Nothing, absolutely nothing. And
I say this is better achievement, because every day, every day, I
seek to be my best version. I say I' m always better than
yesterday, always, always because I learn something new. I read a lot,
I like to read a lot, I like to prepare a lot,
I like to do challenging things. I say this I did it because I
raised my conscience. Then my greatest achievement is to have awakened my consciousness.
And now ask yourself what your greatest fear has been, the greatest fear you
' ve ever faced. Notice that the greatest fear was at some point loneliness.
It' s something that many people have happened to us, that we
' re where maybe we don' t have to be out of fear,
alone in between. That' s been my biggest fear in a long time.
Not anymore and still how you' ve faced it. You could say
that you' ve already overcome it or you' re still working on it
no longer tested out. Miguel Teruis, Miguel, I overcame it precisely by
facing my demons, ok, coming to the depths of my pain, that
is to say, to loneliness, arriving and encounter the loneliness as I felt
it with that fear, I have realized that many times there are people I
tell myself at that moment that we do not leave this area because we do
not get to touch with the pain, with the deep pain. But what
we don' t know is that when we come across this deep pain,
all we have left is to move forward. Then how I got over it
like this by facing my loneliness. Now tell me something. Right now you
said deep pain. There' s beauty in deep pain. Of course,
pain is necessary in life Luis Miguel, it is necessary to grow. When
we do not climb into pain, we remain in deep suffering. And Buddha
said it I didn' t say it. Pain is necessary. Suffering is
a decision. Then many people stay in suffering all their lives for not facing
the pain when they already have the pain. There' s beauty, of
course, if you could change your job, what you would have liked to
be. There' s something you' d say, son It' s
so lame. This is amazing, but I would have loved to be a
dancer. I wanted to dance Yeah, I could see myself dancing, right.
I didn' t do it at the time. Right now, because
I don' t do it, right, but when was the last time
you danced for you when you notice that I do it in the retreats seconds
soon we are wonderful campfires and we dance around the fire and you feel the
medical music that is called, this music that we like, that I like
and so I do. Now I dance differently in the fire, not or
hear. And now we' re going to think that if you had to
take a sabbatical year, a whole year, not work on what you'
re doing and have this year forget about the money, there' s no
money limit, but you could travel all year. First question, you travel
to one place or you travel several places and second, where you would like
to travel. You have a full year to walk from top to bottom great,
because well, I went to a lot of places, I went all
day to everyone. My first detimels would be Peru, which is already in
the door. I' m going to Peru, in July I' m
going to know what I want, what I like, what I learned to
go. I didn' t go to Chiapas and I say why I didn
' t go. Also, I mean, going to a lot of places.
I' d go this one. I would very much like to travel
my country first and then I will go elsewhere, for example, to Proes,
to Europe. I' d have to go ok to Egypt, I
' d love to, I don' t know if China, but I
' d go wherever I went. I love traveling, I love it,
I love it wonderful. Now tell me something suddenly. One makes expectations of
people, things, places. One to their expectations, right now, you
call me ay. I would love to go to Peru, I don'
t know, I haven' t been told I don' t know Peru,
but I' ve been told that it' s very nice and that
the train trip is wonderful, that the train is an incredible experience, that
it looks like you' re traveling through Europe. No, but it'
s amazing like a Latin American train with excellent services and so on. But
to tell you that I once went to Europe and I had a huge yearning
to meet Amsterdam. No. I was saying I want to meet Amsterdam and
it' s the dream. And he made me go to Amsterdam and let
me down in a terrible way. Check it out, at least for me.
I was made a city of Mexico, of course, with some pretty
colonies, like the countess, like a rome, but suddenly I said no.
This is not the Amsterdam that I was excited about thinking about why we
manage expectation, why, suddenly, on a project, on a person,
on a trip, why we inject that expectation. We inflate him, well,
I think that the subject of us thinking for example, you say on
a trip, but to turn him into a person in any situation is like
what we crave from what we want, from what we need at the moment.
I need a trip that makes me feel this and I say yes,
there it is and that' s how I' m going to live it,
but you' re already creating it based on your own need. Okay,
what you feel about what you lack maybe and you come and say.
This won' t do the same as it does with a person you'
re so disappointed with, you say, oh, but I put too much,
because those expectations are in your need of the other person. In this
case, surely for many people Amsterdan would be a wonderful place, of course,
but for Luis Miguel it was not because his need did not cover it.
It' s a great thing to do. Hey, tell us,
please, what have been, speaking of trips, the best vacation you'
ve ever taken. So tell him, son, the truth is, I
had an amazing time at my place this day. I didn' t go
out or travel to such a place. Tell us, what have been the
best vacations? It would be hard to tell you, because one thing I
have, Luis Miguel, is that I enjoy everything, right now. What
I' m doing with you is my best interview, that is, everything
I enjoy and right now you want, for example, about Amsterdam' s
disappointment. I thought you were gonna ask something else, like if you'
re disappointed, I' d tell you I didn' t tell you.
Long ago a word like that to all yes to money, but also to
the challenges that life presents to you why? Because they' re wonderful learnings.
So I actually go with my aunts one day we went and we were
looking after teym se Arma and I Great now, next week she goes here
with some friends. I mean great, this is all for me I enjoy,
I really enjoy everything that happens in my life when Natalia says no.
When she says no, and when it' s good to say no to
see when they say no to Natalia, when it' s something that goes
against what she thinks, what she feels, her values, what she wants
for her. I mean, a lot of people say it' s selfishness,
no yes. I say it' s love. I don' t
do something I don' t want, I mean, I don' t
do something I don' t feel, I don' t do anything for
money, I mean, I mean, I don' t mean, and
I' m fine. It' s all right, that' s the
truth. I don' t know that I don' t remember anything you
' ve been told lately. No. As you hear, you help me
a yes let' s not, if I can, if not, I
say no maybe, but I can say no. It' s healthy.
Saying is not healthy for yourself, for if you consider it, it is
healthy for you. Yes, of course, there are people who don'
t know how to say no because they don' t know how to put
limits on themselves, not on other people, but on themselves. So I,
when I say no, it' s because I put a limit on
myself to seeing this, not for me, not for someone else, that
is for me, then the limits say yes are healthy. And tell us,
please, what has been the teaching, not the knowledge? What has
been the deepest, most significant teaching you have ever lived in your school stage,
in school. Call elementary, high school ay at school. I'
m not that girl, I don' t even remember. I' ve
seen this two by two, four. I believe in school I have some
experience that you have lived in school and that you say this teaching. I
learned this in school, beyond two, plus two, not beyond knowledge.
I' m not talking about what you learned at school, I' m
talking about what experience marked you. And you can say today this experience was
truly very significant and today I learned you about it. I' ll give
you an example. My math teacher, I don' t remember the name.
My math menc was a toughest, most decent guy, but the strictest
thing I knew. He didn' t give me a tenth. He had
no compassion on me, there was no prerogative. On the contrary, I
was going very badly in grades, I was going very badly mathematics, and
he took care that I passed the matter and achieved it on my merits and
it was look I cried tears of blood, as my grandmother said, until
I passed it and I achieved it. And when I passed it and made
it, he told me I knew you could. Nobody tells you you can
' t. You could. To me that teaching ask me what I learned
in high school. I was a madman. I don' t remember,
but what I do remember was that teaching. Not that I really said this
phrase is even to make a movie Notice that you remember, that I'
m telling you right now the natal one before. It' s nothing to
do with the one now believe me that I don' t feel like Natalia
before didn' t value a lot of things, so I don' t
feel right now that one that has been such a special situation in my school
journey, and more because I think I' m going to, just like
you' re a relax, I mean, I skipped classes, copied exams,
stole them, that' s then. In that sense, I do
not remember a situation that I said no man in school. For me right
now, not maybe when if I could have to mention some, maybe when
I graduated, happy be computer, when I graduated and I said oh yeah,
I could, so I could already vigo so yes, I did not
maybe that part. But from there, I don' t remember exactly.
He hears very well. You' ve run into some ex- friend and
ex- colleague from college and high school, you' ve found it all
of a sudden and I' ll tell you Natalia, you do now,
if I met you if we got together to throw a cellas no. And
now, Natalia, yes, if you' ve run into them, what
have they told you? Yeah, I ran into them. But more or
less a friend of mine that didn' t hit me. Or she'
ll be my friend and she' s still my friend of so many years
that when I started this and she tells me, you know what and so
she told me, you know what. I don' t believe you and
you don' t believe me that I don' t believe you that you
are and I don' t believe you because they say no I mean,
I don' t read or I know you, I know what this was
like I said, I did say, but what a father I could have
evolved. Friend, I mean, I could see things that I didn'
t see and I invite you not to be and she at first, as
well as walk, don' t walk and right now, as well as
hear friend to see and hear friend and already she starts to get into these
things. But, for example, for me, it was more shocking for
her, because she, to date, my friend, is one of my
greatest friends and at the time, so Natalia told me, I don'
t believe you, I mean, I don' t buy it and I
why until she lived it and that until she lived it and what father that
they remain friends. Hey I want to ask you what you prefer science fiction
romantic comedy, what is the favorite genre of movies that you have romantic comedy
and suspense I love these weights of stealing is not like that. I love
it and go camping, go out of the field idea. You like it,
you don' t like it. I love it. Luis Miguel,
I' m a cyclist. Besides that I also discovered it now that I
evolved, that I found, I became aware of experiencing things by chance to
rediscover myself two or three years ago I started cycling. Then we go to
challenges and go to many places here in Mexico and camp. I love camping,
here we go camping on the beach. I love nature, I love
to be with my friends of the BICI and to walk and roll and discover
myself going down the mountains, I mean, I don' t go,
going down the visia to everything that gives with stones and I know it I
say so, I say myself do not stains note it you are forty-
seven years old and who I saw in my life or it was not seen
me imagined in my life. Then I love, I love adventure, I
love camping, I love nature, I love all that part. Look how
curious and what a father. I can' t. I am, I
am there I' m not much of myself for you to see. Yeah,
I need the air conditioning the bed with that yes. Yes, very
very very. No, I mean, yeah. I can ride a bike,
no, but I have to go back and sleep in a good place
and eat well. That eating thing I' m gonna eat a plant with
an ant. No. This isn' t for me or a joke.
No. But and I assure you, I' m dying of learning sometimes
more of a bear appears to me and I eat it. I mean,
he' s experienced Luis miguel O. He just says no. No.
I didn' t experience it twice and on the second. In the first
I said no, this is not for me, but well, the second
I said ay told me it' s not that you didn' t live
it father, you didn' t live it. Well, the second one
you saw in man. I ended up saying never again in life and just
being in one place this dark and listening to noises outside the man. What
do you want better around here by yourself? He doesn' t hear.
Let me, please, ask you some role models. You' ve got
someone you admire, someone you say I want to be like a guy.
Suddenly there are people who inspire you, not at least me. There are
people who ask for certain leaders in the month. I don' t want
to talk about politics, but, for example, one person who inspires me
is the Obamas. It' s not so much Bark Obama as Michelle Obama,
for her life, for her effort, for her dedication. I don
' t know if they did or if they didn' t, if they
deported. That' s why I' m not interested. What interests me
is the effort, the dedication and what they achieved. Not someone like that
with you, there' s no model to follow from anything. I'
m telling you, I like reading books. For example. I am not
Catholic, I do not profess any religion, yes, none absolutely, but
I like to read about philosophies, I like to read about Jesus, about
Buddhas, about because I do not like books. And then I say I
know interesting to experience this or I know how I would like to know what
it feels like to have this peace or I don' t know things like
that, but it' s no one or model to follow and I'
m going to follow in selfishness for many people or better be able to follow
them. It is I who of those people tell me is that I don
' t know what my purpose of life is, what is the purpose to
which I came my purpose and my answer is your purpose. You are yourself
or focus on yourself, on your evolution, on your learning, on growing,
on transcending situations, on the challenges that life presents to you. Then
my best models are I, we' re getting to the final straight,
my dear Natalia. I want to ask you the human being came to this
planet to be happy. I believe that the human being is to say,
to make happy, because happiness is like very changing. Not sure. I
' m happy today, but tomorrow maybe I' ll get something in sadness
and I' m sad I think that the human being came to three things.
OK. To evolve, OK, clarity. What he told you,
Ahorita, is not to progress, that is to be better and to transcend.
OK. For me then happiness, for it is to live it when
you have to live it every emotion, every situation. But it is to
evolve that situation, it is to ascend, it is to progress. For
me that to come out of your purpose. It is yourself to remind us,
please, of your social networks, how they can locate you and also
in another way, those women and those men who want to participate with you
in this circle, in this Community, in these retreats, in these meetings,
in the activities they have, and I don' t know if you
have any activity at door. Please, if you can share it and well,
on your social networks, all right. Well, you can find me
Miguel as Natalia Carrillo, a medicine woman, on Instagram, in Spotify.
The truth almost does not feed this spoting, it is already one of the
purposes, but it does feed more. Facebook is like a woman to a
woman. With Natalia Carrillo I didn' t want to change her name anymore,
because that' s how I started it and it' s a little
more. But it is also inclusive. There is also a theme for men.
There' s some information coming up. I have right now in this
month of April salation of female lineage, workshop of childhood ideas, workshop of
conscious sexuality ok and in June July, so that they are preparing for women
retreat, women healing and for men the sense men lover hears even this mother.
It sounded very interesting to me, too, that one about sexuality,
and then we talked about it. No, I don' t. Sure,
I also have some information about sexuality. Of course, even if you
say no, I don' t, of course not. Hey, Natalia.
I would love, please, to have you tell us a final message.
Imagine, but this final message is different. This message you' re
going to give for the whole planet. It is a message that will be
translated into all languages, languages, dialects will not be transmitted via the Internet,
radio, television. Signs of smoke, the whole planet' s gonna
get there. Everyone already knows he' s more than informed that Natalia Carrillo
is going to give a message. What would this message be. I think
there' s a message for everyone. It is precisely that you allow yourself
to open your mind and heart so that this information that you need today in
your life to transcend, progress and evolve and to be able to find the
beautiful human being that you are What wonder, What wonder, Natalia, I
thank you very much. Thank you for really sharing with us, Thank you
for sharing from the heart. That' s the most important, the most
interesting thing, because it' s you, because it' s very you,
and I hope it' s still you, not because I think the
planet needs just that, not authentic people, people who can open their hearts,
who are vulnerable, who are also perfectable. Then I thank you infinitely
and also you who saw us you heard us in that chapter invite you once
again, not only to share this chapter so that more people will know Natalia,
but also to meet all the interviews, all my guests. Today I
have more than a hundred interviews from all countries Argentina, Chile, Bolivia,
Brazil, Spain, Canada, United States, Mexico, in Peru. Well,
an impressive amount and I really think it' s worth it, because
the idea is to positively impact and I' m sure we can grab something
if we put together everything my guests have said. Believe me, you need
no more wisdom, no more than God' s, and I hope God
will bless you and good- bye to you. Good morning, good evening,
good evening, Natalia, Blessing. Thank you for everything, and we
' ll see you and listen to each other in the next s