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M hm. Hey, it's Tuesday, December eighth, twenty fifteen. You

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were listening to the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm Brad Shoemaker. Jeff Gerson.

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Hello, Hi, Hi Dane record. Hey there, what up? Nothing?

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We're in a new office, well
right now. Actually they're in the

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same old podcast room. Yeah.
Ours ours is getting our new one is

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getting strapped together. Still. Yes, we sit somewhere else, that's for

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sure. New desks, new floor, new idea walls. Uh huh,

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yep, we have idea walls,
walls you can ride on. It's like

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the most like turn of the century. Asked that company HiPE ideas and those

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weird little corners with three stemps that
were supposed to sit up and it's gonnahead

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to go over there and vibe a
little bit. Yeah, totally had come

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up with some some fresh ideas.
I had an idea, let's hear it.

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I decided that Daniel Dwyers that should
come join us. Did you guys

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got your complimentary scooters yet? I
would get damn it. That was my

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material. That's bot's midshelf humor.
That obvious reach, that's my specialty,

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obvious reach. Have you guys been
in the new Okay, you know the

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best thing about our floor, the
third floor was the disabled toilets. Yeah,

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highly coveted executive stall. Yeah,
yes, the executive stall. Yes,

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people who don't know it. There's
a single bathroom with one toilet and

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a door that locks. It's great, the door, it's it's a huge

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room. It was highly coveted though, and I always chuckled myself whenever I

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saw somebody go for it and beat
in the fail. Yeah. People used

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to come from other floors. Well
wait wait, I thought every floor head

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one of those. No, no, I don't think this one serious.

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Theors have those that the other has
have showers, and that's you either have

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a shower or how can there not
be a handicap bathroom on every floor?

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Isn't that point? There are handicap
bathrooms and even the standard bathroom. It's

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the bigger stall. Yes, it's
just it's right, right, okay,

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yes, yeah, yeah. I
can't take a ship in a shower.

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Yeah, I can't get rid of
a cake in a shower. Just just

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tell it that heal it down the
drug try. Okay, you probably kind

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as well, but have you been
in the one on our floor? Yeah,

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it's amazing. It's like it's like
on the floor. Yeah, because

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it's like a carbon copy. I
walked in and I got this weird like

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stepping through the looking glass, and
I'm like, whoa, I'm back on

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the third floor. Although have you
realized yet that we actually have three of

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those nexts and two of them are
almost never used? No, you were

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quite wrong about that. What are
you talking about? Those bathrooms are often

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used. I'd say, way more
frequently in this building, way longer than

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you have, I promise you.
Like, it's sporadic. There's times a

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day when it's fine, but not
always. A man, I'm sporadic,

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that's true, especially when I go
on that bathroom especially regular, are you

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nah? Who knows they have a
whole thing for that. Yeah. Yeah,

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that's it called fiber. Stop having
beer for breakfast. No, that

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that I think is if you want
to be extra regular, ultra regular streaming,

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constant stream streaming is the future.
It's that's what they keep telling me.

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Yeah. Yeah, Oh, is
that the streaming room they're gonna finally

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build for us? Yeah, they're
gonna finally build the streaming as that for

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like two years have these bathrooms are
getting weird? Finally at least you're stream

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in there. Yeah, let's subscribe
to my stream. And I would say,

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like mid afternoon, you're probably fine
with those bathrooms, but there's definitely

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a period of the morning, say
like ten am, but they're likely to

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be occupied. I got super excited
when I realized that right behind where we

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sit now is that secret little door
that leads right to those oh those ones.

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Yeah yeah, so oh. I
literally just saw a dude walk in

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on somebody in one of those bathrooms, like thirty minutes ago. Yeah,

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it was great. And I was
walking past at the time, so I

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saw the guy on the toilet and
the guy opening the door. It was

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like it was like a perfectly good
window into the into the world. If

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you're into four, this should be
a muscle memory the second you go into

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any bad. So I walked in
on Peter Brandt, whoa nice I have

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called Peter Brann for a reason I
have. I have forgotten to lock that

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door, and I paid for it. Really, someone got to see some

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action. Peter had his phone in
his right hand but outstretched his left palm

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in a no no, no,
no, no stop looking kind of fashion.

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When we were at E three this
year, we were at whatever dumb

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hotel we were at the Standard.
Uh, the only bathroom we could use

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was down in the lobby, and
it had a their big stall. The

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block didn't work, and it was
the only it was the only bathroom that

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we knew about at the time.
So I danger danger, look I had.

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I had a situation that had to
be dealt with. So I went

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and took seat and was getting ready
to handle business and realized I realized that

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the store didn't lock, and I
realized that also it was a very fucking

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jumping off lobby, like there's a
bunch of people running in and out of

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there. I was like, well, this is I mean, this is

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like a recipe for disaster. Pretty
sure enough, dude, And you know

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the door is just out of reach
that I can't really hold it close.

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Uh so guy walks in. I'm
still gonna go hello, own it and

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he and closes it. And then
I realized that I was not gonna be

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able to handle any sort of business
in that area, so I just got

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out of there. I mean,
chances of you knowing who that person is

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pretty slim, So that's not exactly
what I mean. It was, So

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yeah, it is it went's a
colleague, then it's you know, it's

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hey, it's all in the family. Also, they're probably gonna feel worse

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about it than you do. Who's
if I had to guess, if it's

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E three rights here, you don't
want some industry luminary walk exact, Who's

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the one person you wouldn't want.
Who's the one person you would to walk

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in on you? Or for you
to walk in on for some to walk

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in on you? Because different answers. Yeah, Peter Moore, you wouldn't

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want it. No, Peter knew
I could be fine with him walking in

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So Peter Maryna, I would just
be a gas. I'm sorry. I'm

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sorry you had to see such a
display. I don't know. Yeah,

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I could think of a lot of
people. Yeah, I can't pick Click

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Blazinski. You would or would would
not? You would not want it.

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You wouldn't want him to see you
in that shape? Probably not, Okay,

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I don't know. But Dennis Dyek, he's a wild card. I

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guess he might be like keep one
way, all right, two human and

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alright, alright, nice Danny,
thanks for being here. So I made

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the first ten minutes to be back
that's okay. Uh yeah, we're we're

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usually the last ten minutes, got
have some kouth. We're still we're still

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unpacking boxes and Drew and Jason are
running around setting up equipment like crazy.

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Yeah. Well we of like half
our audio baffling, Yeah, which is

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not enough. Yes, things,
but definitely still some parts missing. Yeah,

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and most of the other parts are
in boxes or otherwise taking apart pretty

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much. Yeah, but I don't
know. I sye hooked up a computer

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and placed and they both seem to
work. So yeah, they still have

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electricity on these floors for the most
part. Yeah, most in most of

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the outlet in most cases. Yeah. Uh so yeah it will There'll be

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a little bit of a ramp up
period as we get acclimated to the new

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digs. We wait, you know, we have to wait for stuff to

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show it for more. I wish
it was something as simple as getting acclimated

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and get you know, if it
was all within our control, then that'd

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be great, sure, because I
know we can get things done, but

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it's one of those things were just
like, well at the mercy of some

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other bullshit, So let's just do
what we can't That always the way,

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Yes, Yeah, I mean,
yes, yes, man, it's been

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an action packed week though, holy
crap, like moving our entire operation to

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a different floor. It's not even
close to the only thing that's happened in

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the last seven days. Yeah,
I mean we recorded all of our Game

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of the Year podcast. You guys
in that stuff's all in the can yep,

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well a lot of it. Is
still a lot of stuff left to

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do. God, you guys are
pre game awards on the last podcast.

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Yeah, yeah, dude, yeah, yet, and then there's that there's

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like two major events and also taken
place in the last week. Right,

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Uh, what do you say we
run through that stuff first? That seems

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like the hot topic of the day? Hot topic? Yeah, I like

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that one. Get some corn t
shirts, Get some video game vinyl while

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you're there. Yeah, it's vinyl
and a backpack that has fairy wings attached

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to it, permanently hot topic.
Cell records. Yeah, okay, vinyl

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to Fallout three colored vinyl. Literally, we're not fucking with you. I

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got a record in the mail and
went fucking what and then I gave it

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the Drew who gave it to Dan. I spent a lot of a week

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I listened to it yeah, I
am firmly against the Like they had another

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one that was MegaMan music pressed on
the vinyl, and the whole thing was

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just like this is so needless.
Yeah, Like, don't get me wrong,

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I kind of like, I get
records are cool, I get it,

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but that is so far removed from
the way you should or need to

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be listening to MegaMan music. It's
like it's yeah, it's the dumb It's

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the worst way maybe to listen to. Don't you have a Streets of Rage?

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Oh it's love shit tons. Yeah, I've got GTA five hot Line

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Miami to fall Out three Journey Streets
of Rage too. There's another one,

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super Hexagon. It's a hexagonal vinyl. Yeah, you can throw it.

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It probably fucks someone pretty bad.
Yeah. Do you listen to any of

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those? You spin any of them? Plass? Actually? Okay? The

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one that actually does sound kind of
gnarly is Hotline because that stuff, like

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is the way it's produced is kind
of it's got that like analog feel to

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it. Some of it is it's
like digital analog. Oh sure, you

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know, so that stuff kind of
comes out narly. I had I had

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a software, a piece of software
that would just add vinyl pops and whatever

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silly, and I used it as
like, I want these drums to sound

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older. Turn this on. That's
pretty good. Do you guys have nice

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turn tables? No? Do you
have any turn tables? Yeah? We

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have like a it's a I forget
the brand, but it is a like,

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you know, one hundred two hundred
dollars turntable something. It's not like

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super great. Yeah, it's it's
a one. It's one unit, you

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know what I mean. Like,
it's not the table and the speakers.

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I had some super old one.
It was an old pioneer like rack mount

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system, this big beautiful silver thing
with you know the brush brush metal Yeah,

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yeah, waist high speakers and that
I stole from my parents and moved

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into my bedroom when I was like
thirteen, and then proceeded to blow out

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the speakers and almost blow up the
amp because that hardware was not meant for

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the type of music I was listening
to it the volume I was typed trying

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to listen to it. Yeah,
that'll happen. The neighbors really were uncool

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about that. Anyway. I still
have most of that gear, but you

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know, whatever I'm not, I
should get rid of it, get some

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video game Vinyl, it'd be great. Just imagine it confused, your fucking

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kids are gonna be yeah, like
what the I mean? I mean,

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we're we're at the point where there
are videos on YouTube of kids who don't

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know what CDs are. You know, yeah like that. Yeah yeah.

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I saw the video of like,
you know, some kid trying to work

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a tape deck, trying to figure
out to stick a tape and a tape

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deck, and I'm like, yeah, no, I like some people look

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at that and go, oh my
god, I'm so I look to go,

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yeah, no, that thing's super
weird. Like if you didn't fucking

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have someone show it to you or
or ever encounter that stuff, Like why

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would you know how any of them? Imagine like kid picks up that game

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viol and they're like, but what
I feel like there's like twenty years between

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these things, right, And they're
like if they if they know that stuff,

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then it's like, well, what
why tapes are kind of shitty?

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Though, then you have to explain
like the shitty revival of vinyl. No,

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you don't just stare at that,
but whatever, Like like vinyl has

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advantages, CDs have advantages like what's
good about asset tape? Nothing small?

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Yeah, okay, is it smaller
than an eight track's vinyl but like last

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basically forever, right, Like it
doesn't have like bit rod or whatever,

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Like do tapes are tapes get thin? You know? It's you get an

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old tape, put it in,
hit rewind, and you'll just rewind right

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off the spools. Yea, eat
a tape and yeah it's a huge mess.

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You can if it doesn't pencils trying
to re wind tapes back into the

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game, you can, you can't. Man, that means like, yeah,

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all those like C sixty four games
thener, yep, yeah, I

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found all my Atari four hundred tapes
and and yeah they're pretty rough. I

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bought a USB tape deck. Those
weren't on just straight up cassette. They

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weren't on some configure to be like
a custom tape forms like the MSX thing,

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because I remember you mentioning that.
You know, there's one part in

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the middle of or five where he
puts like a thing in. Yeah,

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he puts a tape into tape deck
and yeah, in a computer tape deck

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and loads a game like yeah,
okay. The awesome thing about the Atari

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though, is that it also put
music on there along with the game,

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So like the left channel would be
the game, and then the right channel

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would would come out of your speaker
on your tape deck at the appropriate time.

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And they had this fucking kicking jam, this hot fucking bassline that would

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play while while your tapes loaded.
I thought it was like, it's like,

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why twenty ninety seven he just basically
that thing in a CD player.

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Yeah, got the sand track And
it was also there was a guy that

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would give you like instructions and you
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So it was like this guy going, you could play Hangman and load

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up this other stuff. Can you
name all fifty capitals? Keep trying until

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you get them all? Right?
Like this weird sales e copy for the

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game that you're loading. Was it
Sympany of the Night where if you just

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put it into a music player,
it just played the tracks? No,

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because you we will so on on
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then the other speaker you would hear
okay, you know because that was where

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the game was. Yeah, yeah, I told you about what they let's

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set a project, right, told
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that whole piece about which or three
and we started talking to him about like

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piracy you know in you know,
pre democracy Poland or whatever, and they

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said, yeah, there was like
radio stations straight up broadcasting C sixty four

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audio over the airwaves, and people
would like sit at home and record games

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from the fucking radio. Yeah.
Yeah, not ment layabel games. Yeah,

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it's for the audio and then the
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because you know a lot of these
games were getting sold when like the concept

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of a dual deck tape deck wasn't
super widespread, so copying a tape was

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not quite as easy, but home
taping was killing the music. And there

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was no copyright infringement in those states
because they didn't have I guess what would

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you call it, Like they wouldn't
there was no copyright the law, no

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copyright laws, especially foreign works.
I'm sure. Yeah, so they're just

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like whatever, Uh, that's great
and it's super awesome, and like you

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know, people went and there was
a while there that like, uh,

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you could get like CDs or people
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on it and hook those up to
a computer to get them to load and

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you just play them, just play
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the same. Yeah, it's it's
a really insane it's just really insane the

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way that that worked. Yeah,
the ways people used to transfer games around

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were so crazy. Like you know, there were those magazines back in the

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early eighties that had the straight up
the source code for games in the back

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of them, And get the magazine
and type all the code in your computer

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and run at it. And I
would always have three typos and never be

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able to find where I'm at the
type of And that was where that was

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where I learned that I didn't want
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had no patience for going back and
finding those typos. My mom would do

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it. She would actually pour over
the listing and try to look for mistakes.

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And how long did that take you? I mean how hours? Hours?

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Hours? Hours? Wow? Like
insane, Like both of us were

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insane, me insane for typing it, for insane for fixing it. And

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and do you like those Fallot three
hacking mini games? They're yeah, they

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were all right, I don't know. I thought they were kind of fun,

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Yeah, you don't mind, and
Fallout three and then when they showed

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up again. It was like,
all right, all right, okay,

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remember the trick with the brackets.
Yeah, I never needed him. I

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just there's a website that's like,
hey, typing all the words and then

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we'll tell you what the route is
to find the answer, or just a

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console thing on PC. I wasn't
playing on PC. Oh right, yeah,

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way does that website sli work?
Yeah? The Fallout three websites all

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still work for Fallout four. Yeah. I feel like that was that was

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like a defining moment in your experience
with Fallout four from from what you were

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saying, Yeah, it was just
like, man, what am I doing?

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Why does it still work? I
mean it's canonical, it's canonical.

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All the same computers would have been
there. Yeah. So that was that

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was how I felt okay about it, but also felt okay, totally sidestepping

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it because like I've played multiple games
where I've done this before, Like,

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I don't, I don't. This
is not a challenge. It's not fun

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for me. I'm just gonna open
these locks. The guns, yep,

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guns are good in video games,
all right, Danny, So did you

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watch the Game Awards. We were
all in the deep in the throes of

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podcasting that you are. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, we had everyone in

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the office basically stay late for fucking
got those reasons. Did you enjoy it?

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Was it good? Yeah? I
like how was the show? I

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like that show? Yeah? I
mean, you know game awards, you

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know awards shows, they're kind of
it's not how a thing where you have

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to like appeal to so many different
people in one thing. You need to

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appeal to like the hardcore and like
casual people and folks who only play like

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one game year and X y Z, and like it's it's super difficult to

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put on a show to appeals for
a lot of people. It still seems

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like it's, you know, they've
got a narrower focus than when they were

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on when Yeah that stuff was on
Spike TV and trying to be a television

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show, because then it was like
even like you're trying to appeal people who

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actually actively don't care about video games, but you still want them to watch.

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Yeah, Like, were they doing
the comedy skits and stuff this year?

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Come back on Spike. That was
the thing they would do, the

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comedy skits, And I feel like
after Spike you saw way less of that

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stuff. I felt like this was
pretty straightlaced like they had Like, for

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instance, I don't think Spike would
have allowed you to basically dedicate, you

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know, ten fifteen minutes of the
show to the memory of Saturo Watta,

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you know what I mean. That
was like that was a nice moment.

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They seem to have not as many
awards as before, but they sort of

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peppered in more announcements. I don't
think any announcements were particularly massive. Yeah,

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there was no sort of like I
don't really think they have been in

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the past. I know, like
people talking about No Man Sky. But

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then like when that game was announced, it wasn't a big announced nobody knew

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it was. And I think it's
it's the thing where it's like, you

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know, we did we just did
it, where you connect this thing directly

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to Spike TV because it's Jeff Keeley
running the show and all that other stuff

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like he did for Spike, But
this is an Internet thing that he's he's

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putting together. This isn't some big, you know, network behind him putting

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it all together. So you know, it's four it's it's on the Internet.

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It's like a different audience, like
you're I think you're going to attract

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different types of announcements when when you
don't have like hey we're on basic cable

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as like the thing backing you up, like he was able to like procure

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a lot of bigger exclusives I think
with the bargaining chip back then and you'll

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be on Spike TV. Like that's
the thing that like some pr person can

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go back and tell their boss,
Hey, we're gonna be on tel We're

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revealing our Game World premiere on television
National great terrific trif that's I understand television,

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I understand a magazine cover Internet what
so yeah, I mean you know

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now that that show is is on
the Internet, and you know, I'm

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sure is a much smaller affair,
Like it makes sense that like the scale

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of the announcements would would kind of
you know, be a little different.

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It still felt like it had that
sort of grand appeal though had a really

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impressive stage. I feel like it
wasn't particularly like there was empty seats.

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I think that's going to happen when
you do it in LA when this note

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like they at least they could wrote
it right on the colt tails of PSX

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last year and get those people in
there because it was in the same city,

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right, and they had like some
of that, there was sponsored stuff.

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I wasn't too a great year.
It was kind of funny like that

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I just seen outside basically talking to
people about Battlefront throughout the Yeah, so

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they had like Vinyaki was on a
stage like talking about Disney Affinity, but

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like they talked to him about Battlefront
for like a good forty seconds beforehand while

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people played battle Front behind and they
had like, you know, Cliffy was

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out like talking about Lawbreakers, but
like he talked about aout front where for

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like thirty seconds before boots that great
video game, you know, yeah,

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and let me tell you about Lawbreakers. So that was kind of strange.

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Actually, the best part they had
was, Oh god, what the fuck

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is the hashtag? It was bud
Light responsoring it and they were like it

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was like hashtag like stay light or
some nonsense. But he basically there was

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like two people in the crowd who
had won tickets to the game Awards who

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weren't maybe necessarily the biggest gamers,
and Keiley had to go talk to him

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in between the bit and he was
masking, like you know, how's your

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how's your bud Light evening going,
you know, like, fuck up bud

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light to you right now. So
that was probably the most egregious one,

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but that But the best part of
the show though was the crazy weird like

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Jade Raymond, metal gear solid backstabby
stuff that went on. Did you see

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any of that? I heard something
about it. I didn't actually watch the

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clue. It was super weird.
So they said, how anyone has anyone's

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seen this? I heard about the
Kajima stuff with Keiley is saying that was

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amazing. Okay, I didn't learn
anymore Jad Raymond. So to give a

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context, I guess. First of
all that happened was that Melgar Solid one.

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I don't know what award it was. It was was the best character

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so the one keeper accepted. Yeah, so Keeper Sulli went up and accepted.

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Sorry, I can't remember what it
was. It wasn't best game right

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anything, And Keeper Sulli went up
accepted on behalf of Kajimat cuts back to

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Jeff Keiely, who's in his like
box, and he basically goes like,

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oh, we wanted Hideo Kajima.
It's calm, we asked, we reached

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out. But his lawyers essentially said
that we learned he was not allowed to

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come and represent the company. And
but then and then Keiley basically went off

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on one saying like, we're really
disappointed. This is the fact, and

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we send our love to Hideo Kajimat
and he basically just like without in like

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the most professional way possible, push
Kanami in it, like which you know,

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fair enough, it's a company that's
getting all the way out of video

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games. It is the safest come
if you if you're going to throw a

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company under the bus, right yeah, kanam He's not in a position to

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right back, at least not in
terms of video games. But it was

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kind of like he didn't need to, Like it was kind of like a

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it was like all right, fair
Yeah. It's one of the things where

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it's like, I mean, you
know, I think everything we heard was

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that his contract was up sometime in
December, but probably not probably not yet

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or something, and or he's got
a non competent place or or whatever.

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It seems like the sort of thing
that like, you know, they probably

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would have known about a while before
this. It wasn't like some like day

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of things like oh he was gonna
be here and yeah, there's nothing new

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about this, Like, I'm sure
keey knew months ago. Have to be

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highly calculated, didn't He tweet two
Kajima a little bit before the show,

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being like, hey, you ready
for the show? Yes? Yes he

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did. Well, keep in mind
that, you know, there's a lot

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of stuff in place to try to
get people to watch the show moments like

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that. You know, there's the
Trending Gamer reward where I think you vote

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by putting a hash tag out there. So it's like, so the trending

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gamer thing, I look at it, it seems like super calculated to get

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the people that have big followings to
constantly rile up their big following, yeah,

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and then hope that they all then
tell people about this show and watch

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the show. As a nominee,
you know this all too up? I

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did not. I deliberately did not
mention it. So, yeah, I

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nominated myself because I'm a judge,
and I was just like a trending game

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or what the fuck that wrote my
own name in because I thought that was

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real dumb and apparently that was all
took. I don't know, And then

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I was suddenly a nominee that year
who won last year? I can remember

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little Biscuit one. Yeah. Oh
really, yes, I think that's right.

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Yeah. Greg Miller picked it up
this year. Yeah, did did

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a big old speech. It's pretty
good I heard. So what was up

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with Jade Raymond though? Man?
So she comes out right, So,

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first of all, this is the
first it's great to see her back.

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It's like the first time we've seen
Jade Raymond back in I feel like a

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big thing in like maybe five or
six years, like since she left Ubisoft.

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Right, Yeah, so it's kind
of like, oh, great,

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Jade's back, you know. And
here she is, She's running that new

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eat about that doing the she working
on the Star Wars with that thing.

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Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be
pretty cool. And then she comes I

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forget the like introduction, but it
was essentially like, you know, there's

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certain things we associate with games that
are just like to do with the characters,

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which are like super important. It
was for character, I think,

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actually this award and she says like, you know, for instance, you

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can't imagine the Medal Gear Solid game
without the voice of David Hayter. And

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then I was kind of like,
oh, you know, kind of a

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mute of applause, and she was
like sorry, that was a bit mean,

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and then she pulls out not wrong, no, yeah, but like

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you was sudden, like the camera
I think maybe maybe cut two. I

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forget, like they're cutting to him
literally all the time because he's the only

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celebrity apart from Shock who's at this
event. And I don't think Shock's in

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the crowd. I think he's done
his bit. And then shack footwo and

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has fucked off. But yeah,
she does that, and then she basically

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they run the reel of like who's
in this and it's like which or three

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in her story and a bunch of
other video games, and then she opens

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the envelope and she says voice was
voice best performing? Yeah, it was

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character performing or something like that,
and she pulls out the thing and she

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says the name of the character from
her story and then says the Witcher three.

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So what So it cuts back to
the lady who plays the character in

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her story. Who is She's actually
already been on the stage for a different

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thing, and she's sitting directly in
front of Marsha Nevinsky from CETI Project Red

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and he's so it's like her going
yeah and him going like what like throwing

408
00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.920
his hands back, being like what
the fuck, like it didn't make any

409
00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:30.920
sense, and then she walks up. So Jade Raymond's entire time on stage

410
00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:37.799
was just this kind of massive fuck
up. She's subsequently tweeted saying like that

411
00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.480
was what was written in the envelope. So I don't know, that's weird.

412
00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:45.559
Who is supposed to win Price Waterhouse
Cooper? It was supposed to be

413
00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:49.319
her story. It was like everyone
knows ahead of time, Like every every

414
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.000
for these type of awards, you
think, oh yeah, it's really oh

415
00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:56.160
yeah, like they're told on the
night at least, I'm just still thinking

416
00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:00.039
prepared speech or whatever, and so
that, yeah, because the thing the

417
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:00.799
thing an awards show, it's not
sure if they do this for all at

418
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.640
them, is that you tell somebody
so they know what to say, because

419
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:07.119
otherwise they don't. They go up
there and they babble for two minutes and

420
00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.039
then you can't get them on or
in some cases so they come right.

421
00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:12.480
Yeah, yeah, they're certainly like
you know, obviously, like everyone's gonna

422
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:15.359
go to the Oscars. If you
get invited, you go, but you

423
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:17.799
know, then you get to like
the Kids Choice Awards or some of these

424
00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:21.039
other smaller awards shows. It's like
then it becomes like, hey, you

425
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:25.200
should come because we're going to give
you an award, Brian Austin Green,

426
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:29.759
you should show up and do or
you know whatever it is. So that's

427
00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:34.640
I think that's pretty common in the
like award broadcast thing. I mean,

428
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.720
like the CEO of CD project is
probably not going to turn up from Poland

429
00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:41.920
unless he knows that he's maybe gonna
win. Right, So, like I

430
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.799
mean dated one best game, what
about the Slammy's Those those are legit?

431
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.400
Right? Yeah, yeah, okay, no one knows. No one knows

432
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.480
anything about Sammy. That's more like
your your like company office party, because

433
00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:53.920
like you're all just contractedly obliged to
be there, right, It's like,

434
00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.880
yeah, you know, best employee, you know, one who needs to

435
00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:03.559
stop using the them in the machine
all the come on looking at you.

436
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:07.680
I was trying to think of a
yokazuna he sent around he's dead. Oh

437
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:14.799
god, the vending machine yet him. Then the potato ships got stuck that

438
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.599
one time and he just had to
rock the machine. See that's why they

439
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.000
say all facilities yep. Uh.
Let's look at the news that came out

440
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.920
of that like I was sitting down
to like, you know, map out

441
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:27.559
the podcast this morning, like gather
news stories and stuff, and in my

442
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.880
mind I felt like a bunch of
news had broken out of this thing.

443
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.440
And then I looked and they were
like three things. Not as much happened.

444
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.400
So it was like delC announcements.
Yeah, yeah, a lot of

445
00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:41.640
DEALC stuff, a lot of smaller
you know, rocket leagues coming to the

446
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.039
Xbox One. Well, we already
knew that. That's a piece of news.

447
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:45.960
Wait I did not announce it.
Yeah, they they had announced that

448
00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:48.359
already. The only thing we didn't
know is that there's a ward Hog and

449
00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.480
a Gears of Right War thing,
and also that you can't play against people

450
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.519
on other platforms. Will I understand? Yes, you kind of on the

451
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:59.319
Xbox One cannot you cannot. It
was just other Xbox players. Yeah,

452
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:00.839
which sucks. Be is the PS
four and PC is Yeah, you can

453
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.720
do private matches. Yeah, that's
a shame. Gears the word thing have

454
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:08.319
a name, obviously, the word
on the vehicle from Gears of War.

455
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.640
All right, Right, you're playing
and the constantly hurt, like just bats

456
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.200
coming out, But that would be
kind of cool, I would be okay,

457
00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:18.640
uh, it seems like Psychoonauts Too
is the big thing out of the

458
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.759
Game Awards. For sure. It's
weird enhouncement, right, Is anyone's surprised

459
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:30.319
by that? No? No,
no, not actually no, it seems

460
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.839
like it's say, in like that
list of games that like everyone Vocalman already

461
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.480
wants to come out but really didn't
sell all that much. I guess it

462
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.119
has sold a lot since it came
out on Steam again, right, Yeah,

463
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:45.400
they broke out the numbers for potential
investors on their Accredited investor crowdfunding platform

464
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.160
and they're like, hey, this
game sold almost two million copies and seven

465
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:49.880
hunder of the thousand those are on
Humble Bundle and blah blah blah. Yeah.

466
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:52.720
So yeah, they put numbers out
there to try to say like,

467
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:57.319
hey, you know, we are
intending to spend this amount of money and

468
00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:00.480
if we sell this many copies,
this is our break even point. Like

469
00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.000
they're actually the businesses out there.
They got out there that specifically, oh

470
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.960
wow, I've been so I've funded
the thing and I went on then you

471
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:10.559
can click on like invest in it
if you want, And like, maybe

472
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:11.960
that's probably a little bit set too
far for someone in the game's press,

473
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.720
but I said a little bit,
you know, I'll just check it out,

474
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.039
see what's in there. So if
the game like makes like four million,

475
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.480
if I was to invest five hundred, you'd get like fifteen hundred back.

476
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:25.680
That's the minimum, right, five
hundred, Yeah, I think yeah,

477
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:29.319
yeah, So what are the requirements
to be like an investor? Don't

478
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.599
have they'd have separate options for unaccredited
and accredited investor. As an accredited investor

479
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.599
means that like I think you have
a million dollars cash on hand, or

480
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.000
you've made over two hundred thousand dollars
a year for the past two years.

481
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.599
It's some like a government like i
RS classification if you can be an accredited

482
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:47.079
investor, so so they know,
like you're good for it. I guess

483
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:48.880
I don't care. I mean,
you have to pay up front, so

484
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.119
it's not really I think it's protecting
people. Yeah, I think like they're

485
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:55.480
they have safeguards in place for investments
to stop people from throwing away their money.

486
00:28:55.559 --> 00:29:02.279
Yeah, stuff like psychonauts too,
what where Where's Where's notch in all

487
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:06.200
this? They ember that they've said
that they would have that they had funding

488
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:10.119
from multiple sources, maybe one of
them is not so interesting. So that

489
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:14.200
does this not represent the entire budget
of the game, then probably not.

490
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.319
No, they did like a pie
chart in the shape of a brain because

491
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:18.960
it's Psychonauts, and what it looked
like was about a third of it was

492
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.599
double fine throwing down, about a
third of it was crowd sources. Okay,

493
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:26.119
a third was from unknown invisity.
So that's okay, that's good to

494
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.400
know, because you know, they're
asking for what they made on the Broken

495
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.799
Age Kickstarter three point three years.
Yeah, but you know, if you

496
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.599
watch the documentary for that thing,
like they were very clear in the thing

497
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:38.160
that they had put quite a bit
more money into that game than what they

498
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:41.359
raised on Kickstarter. Yeah, you
know, so I looked at that number

499
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:42.440
for Psychonauts and I was like,
that's not going to be a very big

500
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.359
or elaborate game if that's all you're
Yeah, they're they're getting more. But

501
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:48.359
yeah, you know, they got
the rights to Psychonauts back, like,

502
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.400
it seemed pretty clear at that point
that they would do something else with Psychonauts.

503
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.559
Yeah. I didn't do that just
to rerelease Psychonauts one. So yeah,

504
00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.799
I'm just kind of surprised it took
him this long, but three D

505
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.319
action platform or game. Woo.
Yeah, it's that's a really weird thing,

506
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:10.279
I mean lately, so they're all
coming back. So yeah, I'm

507
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:12.720
not I am not ready to declare
like a return of the three D platform

508
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:17.920
or the third person platform or just
yet give it another year. Maybe maybe

509
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.559
like the amount of like third person
or yeah, like three D platforms that

510
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:25.039
you go back and really think all
fondly considering how many came out right,

511
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:30.000
like they were great because they were
the evolution that almost like they only exist

512
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.039
almost because technically we could start making
three D levels and then they forced all

513
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:36.599
these two D games into three D. But like the Amandin you want to

514
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:38.319
go back and play today, I
mean yeah, it's yeah, it's pretty

515
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:44.039
much just croc Yeah yeah, yeah, chameleons, sure, yeah, Blinks,

516
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:48.440
Jersey Devil, Yeah, Jersey Devil, Yeah, Rascal and stuff.

517
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.359
Uh. What was that? There's
one that a claim put out that was

518
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.200
real bad anyway, that that Duck
Dodgers game. Yes, Duck Dodgers game

519
00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.039
that was something, uh, the
predecessor to Duck game. Yes, Duck

520
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:06.759
Dynasty is the third Indo Yep,
it's the conclusion of the trilogy. Uh.

521
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:11.319
Eric Woolpau is working on this game. Also. That's the other weird

522
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.680
thing about this. Yes, well
he worked on the original. I know

523
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.559
that, I know, But but
like the idea that he would continue to

524
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:22.480
work for Valve but also co write
this game like they're busy making any other

525
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.480
video games. I mean fair,
that's that's fair. You know, Like,

526
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:26.759
what's he you know, he's a
writer, he is, he gonna

527
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.480
spend all his time writing like more
comic strips for T two characters. Like,

528
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.039
no, it's like trailers for a
game that came out eight years.

529
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.480
He's got time. It's fine,
I guess. So. Uh, it's

530
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.799
still a weird arrangement, you know. Yeah, you don't. You'll see

531
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:44.799
that every day. Yea. Valve's
a weird thing. So yeah, Valve's

532
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.160
weird Double Find is weird. And
I that's a huge reason that I love

533
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:52.200
those companies, even if I don't
love everything they put out. They just

534
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.720
do strange things all the time.
Yeah, and that's exciting to waking out

535
00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:59.039
there. Yep, for sure.
Uh, I guess that's kind of it

536
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:06.559
about Psychonauts. Some scrolling through this
list, Rocket League a bunch of DLC.

537
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:08.680
As you said, there's a new
Walking Dead game coming out of tell

538
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:15.480
Tale. Anybody what a new Walking
Dead game coming out of tell Tale?

539
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.000
Those first two were good? Well
what happened there? Because I remember that

540
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.319
first one came out and everyone freaked
out over it one like game of the

541
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:27.799
Year and whatever whatever the video game
awards were that year. Everyone seemed to

542
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.279
love it, and then no one
talked about season two from when I saw

543
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:34.359
it when it sounds like the second
season was not great. But also I

544
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.799
think that tell Tale has been putting
out too many games. Yeah, they

545
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:39.759
put out a lot of stuff now, like or they put putting out so

546
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:44.640
many games that it's like it's hard
to get like excited about any individual franchise

547
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.519
anymore. Those games are they all
pretty much followed that format? Yeah,

548
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:51.160
well that's why the first Walking Dead, the season one of Walking Dead was

549
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:55.039
so profound because it was like tell
Tale completely pivoting on their design of their

550
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:59.599
games broken Yeah, totally, like
it came up with a new format for

551
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.759
the venture game, and then they
proceeded to make like eighteen other games in

552
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.039
that format. Yeah, Ioney,
of that, Tails and the Borderlines is

553
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.079
really good. Yeah, that's the
one that I keep hearing yeah over and

554
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:12.279
over from people. They put out
so many of this year, like Game

555
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:16.240
of Thrones, Yeah yeah, did
the Wolf among them stuff up? Guess

556
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:22.039
yeah? Like some yeah Minecraft that
when you go look back, actually like

557
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.519
they had all the ones they did, They did the Back to the Future,

558
00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.000
this stuff was back to the future. Those were before Walking Dead.

559
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.599
That was kind of the inflection point
for them. So many Yeah. But

560
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.079
for me, I need to be
like inherently into the subject matter of one

561
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:38.519
of their new games before I'm going
to give a yeah, give it a

562
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:42.359
closer load. But those things are
huge. My understanding is that they are

563
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.319
raking it the fucking yeah with all
of that stuff. So good on them.

564
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.000
I mean it's fine with me because, like I said, at some

565
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:50.319
point, they will license something that
I care about, right, and then

566
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.680
I will play that they found away. I mean, those games are presented

567
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.440
in such a way that like anyone
can enjoy them. It's not something that

568
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:59.000
you have to be like super into
video games to get. So they can

569
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.359
crack them out on every form now, right, it seems like that's you

570
00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:05.400
know, they'll they'll hit people who
don't touch other video games because they just

571
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:07.519
like they're just some Game of Thrones
fan or something like like your kid wants

572
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.320
something Minecraft on already has an iPod
and they've been watching YouTube videos. Play

573
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.719
the Minecraft game. Yeah, story
mode, I think I think you can

574
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:17.199
literally play real Minecraft. Also,
it's a great experience. Oh god,

575
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:22.400
that wasn't even the only tell Tale
announced but they're real Batman game alsoight yeah?

576
00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.199
Uh two Telltale games out of there. Wait didn't they announce a full

577
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:30.840
throttle double fine? No, that's
that's double PSX. We're getting there.

578
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:36.360
I thought were already doing Uh oh
right, shock fou. Yeah, what's

579
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.840
up with that? I got kick
started? Okay, so that was all

580
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.840
known about they show. I didn't
watch the trailer. I don't know.

581
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:45.679
I don't I don't like Surprise Prize. I don't give a fucking fuck about

582
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.840
ship. The best part of that
was that Shack also gave out the award

583
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:52.599
for best like Espors year. Yeah, and the guy who choked that guy

584
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:57.360
did he win? I don't know
what that is. I don't think so.

585
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.239
Okay. Five, what looked like
hobbits came on the stage. They

586
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:06.320
just regular size people. But you
put like shock beside regular folk, bestie

587
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.280
folks who sit down playing video games
all day and it's like, wow,

588
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:13.119
look like Gandalf and yeah, fucking
a bunch of little dudes. It was

589
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.400
pretty cool. Wait, so you
were aware of that he sports choking incident.

590
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:17.320
Yeah, I just found out about
it this morning. I had no

591
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:21.840
idea. I don't know that we'd
even need to give it any airtime or

592
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:23.440
not. But like, some fucking
dude got thrown out of dream Hack for

593
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:27.239
being a dirt bag. Well it
was. Well, the reason I took

594
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.039
notice of it, it was because
the DODA player that was involved as like

595
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.639
a super prominent player, the guy
who got the choke the chokey yes,

596
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:37.400
wow, like he was the captain
of the team that won the International three.

597
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.880
Like he's He's a dude who I
was well well aware of when I

598
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:42.800
saw that name, and I was
like, what the fuck is up?

599
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:45.840
At least he didn't take a dump
in the hole like the Pokemon guy,

600
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:50.679
right, Yeah, well, dot
players have standards. Yeah, some Pokemon.

601
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.880
Professional Pokemon players got thrown out of
the tournament in Hawaii winning twenty twelve.

602
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:58.039
It was like the winning team or
something. Professional Pokemon players, they're

603
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:02.119
partying a little too hard, Okay, Yeah, man, So sore winning

604
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:07.800
there. That's kind of it,
I think looking at this list to there

605
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:08.719
for the Game Awards, Yeah,
there's not a whole lot of other major

606
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:14.760
news that came out of there from
what I can see. But then I

607
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:19.239
bet did Coajima didn't go because he
wasn't allowed into the after party last year?

608
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:21.440
Do you remember that? Was he
not? Yeah? He was wearing

609
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.039
trainers? What he was wearing?
Trainers? Are you serious? Man?

610
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:30.760
That's really dumb. Yeah, that's
really dumb. Uh man. I guess

611
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:36.079
it was Vegas or Vegas. They're
big places, same stick to that town

612
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:40.639
of dumb shit, different states,
same cesspool. The PlayStation experience then proceeded

613
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:46.400
to pop off a couple days later
here and here. I would say they

614
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:51.039
had a considerably more action packed keynote
at that thing than the game boards did

615
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:55.280
in terms of major announcements. Oh
shit, I'm sorry. One other thing

616
00:36:55.360 --> 00:37:00.440
from shit, one other thing from
the Game Awards. Complex Oh yeah,

617
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.880
oh yeah, remaster, Complex Remaster. Yeah, it's coming out on PC,

618
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.400
PS four and Xbox One, and
it's already out on piece And just

619
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.079
like Surprise dropped for free on the
PC. It's they they need a way

620
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:15.400
to get people to download the launcher
games Launcher, which is how you play

621
00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:21.599
Fortnite and Unreal Tournament and Sarah Soon
Paragon Docs paragone. Is it gonna be

622
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.800
like a battle dot Net thing?
Yes, okay, yeah, that's uh

623
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:28.079
it is. It is there,
and also the Unreal Engine atset. I

624
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:31.239
was gonna watch it if you want
to install that to make Unreal Engine games

625
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:34.480
like, that's the way to do
as well. So yeah, if you

626
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.599
download it you can. I guess
it's just this month it'll be free,

627
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:38.920
but yeah, you can just play. So I did that till the end

628
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:44.280
of the month. How is that
thing? It's higher resolution Xbox three sixty

629
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:45.000
games. Get the faces and stuff. You look and go, oh,

630
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.519
you can kind of tell. I
mean, you know it's been a while.

631
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:50.719
That's uh what was that two thousand
nine, Yeah, something like that.

632
00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:53.320
It's yeah. So it's like they
didn't go in and redo every little

633
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.079
bit of it too. You know, it's not some huge, huge change,

634
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.079
but it is a sharp looking game
now or you know, it runs

635
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:05.639
at PC resolutions and it's shadow complex. Yeah, so I mean that's a

636
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.679
good thing. Yeah. I mean
things about it that I don't know that

637
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.360
age super well about the movement really. Yeah, it's gonna specifically has a

638
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:16.239
real speed to it that just feels
flitty and just real weird. But is

639
00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:20.920
it only cosmetic upgrades? Just the
resolution, like all the movement feels exactly

640
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:22.840
the same. I didn't play a
ton of it, but yeah, it

641
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.960
felt pretty similar to me. Yeah, you know, people people on the

642
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:28.400
PC have been clamoring for that game
for a long time. It's a really

643
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.800
good game. Yeah, it took
ages, but you see, maybe enough

644
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.000
people play it, maybe they'll figure
out a way to make sequel. Yeah

645
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.039
may I I don't know chairs,
because it looks like chairs got there.

646
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.119
Kind of their next projects already lined
up at this point. Yeah, there's

647
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:44.079
no saying the chair would even have
to do the work. There's another studio's

648
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:47.360
name on this thing also really someone
whoever did the work, but I cannot

649
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:51.239
remember who it is. Seen any
Microsoft copyrights on there? I did not.

650
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:53.760
Yes, it's all epic then,
yeah, I guess so all right,

651
00:38:54.519 --> 00:39:01.519
Uh, PlayStation experience happened. Then
I thought about going in person to

652
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.920
this Yeah, and then read the
email where they said about you know,

653
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.400
like press entry right, and then
it said get here at eight am.

654
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:10.760
Yes, I was like, well, okay, I'm gonna stay here and

655
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.119
watch this on the internet, considering
started at ten we were at the office,

656
00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:20.840
moving right the night prior. Yeah. Uh. I also decided to

657
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.400
stay home and watch it on the
couch, which turned out to be a

658
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.760
great way to watch it because it
was totally fine to watch that stream.

659
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.960
Uh. Let's see, let's just
go through all the news. I guess

660
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:36.400
as I scroll in order through the
stuff they did. Mean they showed that

661
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:40.440
Final Fantasy seven remake. Yeah,
trying to go in chronological order here,

662
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:45.559
just we can get a handle on
things. Excuse me, Uh, do

663
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.440
we want to talk about that now? Or you want to save that?

664
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:52.239
Yeah, I'm very torn on that
because that issue got way more complicated by

665
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:54.800
the end of the weekend. Yeah, up front, I was surprised at

666
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:58.639
how much they showed and that it
looked better than I expected. Like,

667
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:00.840
I thought, its face looks stupid, Well, but I think it always

668
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:05.159
looks stupid. Class is always look
fucking stupid. Yeah. It's like one

669
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.320
of the things where it's like,
the more realistic you make a Final Fantasy

670
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.360
character looks, You're just like,
Okay, that's like, no, that

671
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:16.639
hair doesn't translate on like J Metal
asshole or yeah, but still like they

672
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.840
showed a lot and I was like, wow, they have more of that

673
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:25.920
done than I personally expected before the
other shoe drops. I think they interesting

674
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.159
thing about that was like the combat
look different, you know, and yeah,

675
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.800
kind of like fifteen is looking got
a real time issue looking at the

676
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.760
combat system, which I like,
you kind of have to change it up

677
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:37.840
at this point. That game is
fucking I mean, I mean yeah,

678
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:43.079
but like also, like you know, it was standard active time battle.

679
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:44.920
You know, It's like they made
a lot of games like that. I

680
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:50.039
think you're right, but I think
every decision about this thing, you could

681
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:51.599
go one way or the other.
Right, I guess, well, we

682
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:52.800
want to stick to the the what
the original was, or it could just

683
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:57.679
go like fuck it, we're gonna
redo it. Like I was blown away

684
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.119
really that they changed the combat.
I wasn't because I figured they would just

685
00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:04.480
be like, well, you know, everyone's going to freak out if we

686
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.559
change it, so let's just let's
just stick to what it was. I

687
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.599
just you know, or whatever,
you know, But that that one thing

688
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:14.079
was very surprising. Yeah, that
makes me think that it's being used as

689
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.519
like a jump gap to get people
who are like that Final Fantasy seven cried

690
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:21.320
that generation who don't play Final Fantasy
games anymore, trying to like get them

691
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:22.480
back on board. Right, Yeah, like let's make it play like the

692
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.559
current one because a the tech is
there already, we can leverage it.

693
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.599
Oh they're actually no, they're on
Unreal Engine for Final Fantasy seven remake,

694
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:35.679
which seems crazy really because it looks
well. And then fifteen's not No,

695
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.880
that's on their own stuff, all
right. I think those fifteen is also

696
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:43.519
want Unreal. I want to say
fifteen was on I'm gonna I'm gonna crack

697
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:47.599
up my laptop check those facts and
see if it connects to the shoddy wifick.

698
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.800
We're already in it. Let's just
talk about it. Keeps talking.

699
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.679
Uh yeah, Like it looked good, I thought, even though, like

700
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:59.760
you know, some of that dialogue
was a little yes seven hearing some of

701
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:04.119
them, iog spoken aloud like we're
doing it for the planet or whatever.

702
00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.000
It's just like all this stuff looked
terrible. All this stuff has always looked

703
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.280
terrible. All this stuff it's sounded, you know, like like the Red

704
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.639
Terrible looked terrible. I guess what, right, But I'm saying, hearing

705
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:16.599
it spoken out loud is did not
drives that home in a way that seeing

706
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:21.079
in a little text box did not. Hopefully some of that stuff will be

707
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.000
updated, but anyway, whatever,
let's fast forward all the way past the

708
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:30.079
entire event to like what an hour
after that ended Sunday evening. Is that

709
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:31.760
is that when this happened. Yes, okay, and a press release trickled

710
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:35.920
out. I did not get that
press release. Anybody in this room get

711
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:38.679
that in their inbox. I tend
to get just about all press releases from

712
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:45.280
Square Nix, but not that one. Uh. And yeah, they they

713
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:49.440
put out a little like one or
two paragraph thing that just casually mentioned the

714
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:54.079
fact that this thing will be split
into multiple episodes three discs, just like

715
00:42:54.079 --> 00:43:00.320
the original. I mean, it
sounds like that would be preferable along the

716
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.320
fan base to the alternative, which
is split it a lot more than that.

717
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:07.480
They said they a multipart series.
They have said anything specific. So

718
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:12.920
Kingdom Marts three is Unreal Engine four, but uh, Final Fantasy fifteen I

719
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.639
believe is Luminous Engines. Yes,
point Oh, I mean, I think

720
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.280
the whole thing is that they've been
working on that thing for so fucking long,

721
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:22.119
like they're locked into whatever engine they
were using. Sure for a luminous

722
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.400
engine US Yeah, yeah, yeah, rotate the cubes and drop it in

723
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:31.320
and then some fucking Baja boat.
Yes, sounds like a Final Fantasy game.

724
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:37.920
Man. Reactions were not kind.
I've got to say, I've got

725
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:38.880
this awesome life hack. You want
to hear it? I want to hear

726
00:43:38.920 --> 00:43:42.920
my awesome life hac. What's that
if you don't like episodic games, wait

727
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.320
till they're all out and then play
it. Yeah, but then, because

728
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.679
if it wasn't an episodic game,
that's how long it would take for it

729
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.920
to come out. Probably that's that's
very possible. But you know, so

730
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.800
did what's that gonna be like twenty
twenty when the thing's done? I don't

731
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:58.440
know, Like, Brad, you
tell me, man. What they always

732
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.960
allude to, Like how fucking im
possible it is to remake this game because

733
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:06.119
it's so much But like they're going
and entering full production on other Final Fantasy

734
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.760
games. What is it about seven
that makes that like more impossible? Er?

735
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:14.440
Is it because it's is there just
a bunch of one off stuff they

736
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:16.360
can't reuse? Is it because like
the snowboarding is in there, like you

737
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.199
know, the Golden Saucer. Like, yeah, okay, Bury in mind

738
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.639
that I played through this game once
in nineteen ninety seven. That's how fresh

739
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:27.519
my memory of it is. I
just I remember being an incredibly long game

740
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:29.760
and there are a whole lot of
environments you go to, like just a

741
00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:32.400
whole lot of different story sequences that
take place in different places. Yeah,

742
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:35.960
so it's not even lot of contents. So it's not even that like the

743
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:39.159
gameplay changes so much that you're using
your you're you know, making stuff and

744
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:42.159
throwing it all away in the next
chapter. I mean, you know,

745
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.199
you're getting new summons and those have
animation. It's literally just content creation.

746
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:49.079
It's literally just the range of because
you know, how many discs was that

747
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:53.239
on with three three? I think
it was three four, I think that's

748
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:57.159
right. But yeah, it was
just like I mean, who else played

749
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.280
through that game. I played about
thirty hours of it and stopped. Uh,

750
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.280
It's just it's just really long and
you went to a lot of places,

751
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:06.320
and like that made a lot more
sense back then when you know,

752
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:08.239
I'm sure that game was fairly expensive
for its time, but even then,

753
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:13.360
like you're not putting nearly as much, just like art and animation effort into

754
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.000
stuff. As you're right now,
you know, isn't it one of the

755
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:17.280
last ones with the traditional overworld too, because you know, next one I

756
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:21.800
played was I played nine to ten. I don't remember those having the overworld

757
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.119
eight and nine definitely. I think
ten was the first one that didn't have

758
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:27.519
a real overworld. Okay, yeah, you kind of always saying about it

759
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.639
being line. You always saw that
game from the kind of ground level perspective.

760
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:32.239
Yeah, it's characters full size and
everything for seven hours, going through

761
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.480
big deserts and stuff. Yeah yeah, uh yeah. I mean I buy

762
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.280
their argument that it would be insanely
expensive to remake every minute of that game,

763
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:44.519
you know, but also like I
feel like, if you were trying

764
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.280
to remake that game and we're willing
to make real changes to it, which

765
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:52.199
it sounds like they definitely are,
then tighten it up right. I Mean,

766
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.239
it's a story so dense that like
it'd be hard to to do that.

767
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.119
It just seems like I feel like
if you went through that thing as

768
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.280
an editor, I bet you could
squeeze ten hours out of it. I

769
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:05.719
can't I can't answer that confidently,
just because it's been so long. But

770
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:07.760
like, you know, what would
the reaction of the fan base be if

771
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.119
you did that, Like, you
know, people that want this thing fare

772
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:12.440
enough about it. I feel like
the reaction of the fan base is going

773
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:15.360
to be super touchy no matter what
you do. If you if you are

774
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.159
super faithful to the original game,
they're people to be like, oh,

775
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:21.880
they just fucking upresed it, you
know if they if they totally have wide

776
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:23.760
departures from the original game, they'll
be people that think it's not the same.

777
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:28.679
You know, this episodic thing is
just another example of that of people

778
00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:32.119
just want the thing they got then, but better, which is like a

779
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:39.039
weird thing to ask for. Uh, and and not that doesn't seem like

780
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:44.039
a great bit of business for Square
either if they made this like really faithful

781
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.559
remake, like they made that and
it's the PC version of Final Fantasy seven,

782
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:50.480
which is now on PS four,
right, if you want your super

783
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:52.679
faithful version, Like, isn't that
the one? Yeah? Totally that is

784
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.480
the game, and like I guess
it's got trophy and stuff. So it's

785
00:46:55.480 --> 00:46:59.280
like, all right, here's a
relatively modernized version of that thing, Like

786
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:00.599
it at least run in a way
you can play it. It might not

787
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:05.079
be perfect to the PS one,
but that you know, yeah, I

788
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:08.119
don't know, Like that's it's just
a weird I that's an impossible game.

789
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:12.000
It's an impossible fan base to please. Yeah, at this point, so

790
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.079
much time has changed and the expectations
of the genre are very different. The

791
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:20.199
way games or made it has changed
a lot. The game that people remember

792
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.559
in their heads, especially if they're
like you and haven't played its ninety seven,

793
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.920
is not the same game that actually
got released. So like, the

794
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:30.480
expectations are are unrealistic on all ends
of that, I think, or you

795
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:31.760
know, even even if you played
it more recently than that, Like games

796
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:35.119
weren't in a different place at that
time, Like everybody who played it at

797
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.679
that time was any different place than
they are now, because that was almost

798
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:38.639
twenty years. Like by the time
this thing is out, it will be

799
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:42.639
it will have been over twenty years
since Final plantsy seven came out. You

800
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.760
know, Like that is insane to
think about, but it's true. I'm

801
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:51.360
scrolling through this uh story that Austin
wrote. He gathered some so the way

802
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:53.280
they handled this thing was just like
you know, of course they're going to

803
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:59.039
sneak this piece of potentially damaging information
out in the quiet manner as possible,

804
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.559
but they gave no context for it
in that press release. And then,

805
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:06.639
like other little details are starting to
come out in some like interviews that have

806
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:14.559
been published in Japanese, which Austin
had uh as it has a story about

807
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:15.960
where he collected some of those details. Sorry, I'm just trying to parce

808
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.239
all this stuff because they have talked
about Okay, here's the thing I was

809
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:22.679
looking for. Because when you're talking
about, you know, needing a story

810
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.880
editor or whatever, this says some
story content will change, some will remain

811
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:31.199
the same. Bold claim. Yes, well yes, obviously. Uh.

812
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:37.920
This is talking to Tatsuo Nomura and
Yoshinori Ki to say who kind of the

813
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.400
you know, the biggest people on
this project. They were both around for

814
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.960
the original game. It says they
are definitely aware that the game that they

815
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.880
need to keep both diehard fans happy
in the original game while also updating an

816
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:52.559
out of date script. Man,
yeah, they are aware that. Are

817
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:57.039
they aware that that's actually impossible?
Did they have guns to their head while

818
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:00.960
giving this interview as the people who
would most directly receive the feedback from the

819
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:04.920
crazed fans for this thing. I'm
sure they're imminently aware, right. Uh

820
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:07.159
yeah, so it says this is
I think this is Austin's words. But

821
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.079
so, on one hand, yes, Final Fantasy seven remake will still feature

822
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:14.559
cloud Cross dressing for Don Corneo.
But on the other hand, no,

823
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:16.760
Morris says he wants to quote surprise
fans who know the story from start to

824
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:21.199
finish, and Keta say says that
he wants to remake. He wants the

825
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.519
remake to be more than just quote
something nostalgic, right. I think that's

826
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:28.119
that's probably the right way to go, right, Like, you know,

827
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.960
especially if it's coming alongside like hey, here's a here's a here's a way

828
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:34.679
for you to play that original game. I mean, I assume the PC

829
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.679
version was was on par I don't
know, I've never assumed. Assuming,

830
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.119
yeah, assuming that's a fine version
of the game. They're like, hey,

831
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:45.039
here's here's the way to play the
original thing. If that's what you

832
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:46.679
want to play, and then we're
gonna, you know, take some license

833
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:50.920
and do something different, Like right, that's that seems like what you the

834
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.599
way you kind of have to go
with that. Let's see, they say

835
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:55.880
that the remake will you'll still have
a three person party. You can still

836
00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.360
switch around between characters, So there's
that. Reconnect two is also working on

837
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:05.360
it, yeah, along with various
companies, so they're like outsourcing a bunch

838
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:09.840
of stuff. They compare the battle
system to that of Decidia or Kingdom Hearts,

839
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.840
which like, okay, fine,
I've seen that stuff in action,

840
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:17.360
Like it's kind of whatever. Is
that more real time? Yeah? I

841
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:22.199
mean you're run around, you're controlling
the characters because twelve, yeah, fifteen

842
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.280
is super action e Yeah, although
you're still kind of inputting commands and stuff,

843
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:29.480
but like they're probably be lifting out
what they're doing the Kingdom Hearts,

844
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:31.760
right, It's it looks like a
yeah, uh I get you know.

845
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.840
The biggest question is just like how
do they chop this thing up. How

846
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:38.159
many different releases are there they're going
to be, how much they've they've come

847
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:42.559
out They have come out and said
each release will have a like full game's

848
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.639
worth of content. See that that
starts to make me scared because then you're

849
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:51.000
into like StarCraft territory instead of like
you know, tell Tale territory. Right,

850
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.480
But also at least that is seven
seven two and seven three. Yeah.

851
00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:58.039
They also ok, they also confirmed
that the actual real final title of

852
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:01.880
this thing is Final Fantasy seven Remake. Yeah, which sounds like weirdly clinical

853
00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:07.199
to me. That's Japan, but
that's exactly what it is, I guess.

854
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:09.280
But yeah, like, like,
what the hell does like full game

855
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:13.480
mean at this point? You know, like some full games are four hours

856
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.960
long, like some full games are
eighty Yeah, that's not It's not a

857
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:21.199
very helpful statement. Are they trying
to just stay away from the idea of

858
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:25.039
these are because like games that are
don't feel full are tell tale episodes,

859
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:28.880
they feel like chapters. Yeah,
those absolutely feel like, Hey, I

860
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:30.480
just played a small portion of a
full game, right, and now I'm

861
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:34.760
gonna wait in a month or two. Trying to like distance themselves and like

862
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.440
whether that blow or something. Yeah, I guess so, but I wonder,

863
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:43.280
you know, it's like how well
the episodic thing will hold up over

864
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.719
these next couple of years, you
know, if people are going to kind

865
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:46.440
of turn the corner on it,
like no, I want the whole thing

866
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:50.320
at once. It's like, I
mean that's what Netflix just does with,

867
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:52.719
you know, episodic series. Now
it's just like, ah, look here

868
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:57.199
you go. Yeah, I have
like obsotunity, no interesting. I know,

869
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:00.960
it's like just my own perspective,
but like as somebody who plays a

870
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:02.960
lot of games, I have no
interest in playing anything and having to wait,

871
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:05.920
Like I'm the same as you.
Yeah, I'll just wait for them

872
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:07.000
to come out. I've done that
wolf Wolf among us. If done,

873
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:09.480
I would walking down. If done, would load them. Wasn't that Resident

874
00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:13.960
Navil revelations too? That was like
one every week, wasn't it. Yeah,

875
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:15.920
I mean that thing, that thing. Yeah, that was clearly more

876
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.880
of a business strategy of they had
it all basically done up front and just

877
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:23.280
kind of put it out piecemeal.
Here's the here's the explanation. They says

878
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:27.480
that, due to the remakes increased
density, making the full game as a

879
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:30.519
single release would require a number of
undesirable cuts and would limit the team's ability

880
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:35.519
to make new additions. Rather than
that, they chose from the beginning to

881
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:39.280
target a multiple part release. They
will have more information in the future about

882
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:45.760
what that means. But it could
be as simple as some businessman over there

883
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.800
looking at Western game purchasing and going, hey, you know what's really big?

884
00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:51.719
You know, it's been picking up
over the past couple of years.

885
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:55.559
Episodic, make it happen, and
then we'll figure out what the upside of

886
00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:59.559
stuff, like, Hey, you
know you're out there selling an episode before

887
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:01.800
the whole game is done. You're
getting some money coming in, right,

888
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:07.559
Yeah, you know, like that's
that's nice if you're in that position.

889
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:08.400
I guess I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

890
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:10.079
you know, to hear them tell
it, it sounds like people have taken

891
00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:14.039
them eighteen years to remake the entire
thing start to finish before they put it

892
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.800
out. But I mean final five
s seven fins waited this long. It's

893
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.519
true. You know. The real
question is just how much is in each

894
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:24.599
episode and how much they cost?
Right cynically, I would assume they will

895
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:30.000
be closer to a full price game
than not mhmm. But you tell me,

896
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:36.000
I mean, I would you know, figure like twenty dollars episodes three,

897
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:37.800
you think three acts of the game, like there are natural stopping points.

898
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:40.280
By the end of it, you
get to sixty bucks. I will

899
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:45.039
say that none of the footage,
all the footage they showed at this thing

900
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.239
was all in mid car, which
is the first part of the game,

901
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:52.039
like the fairly early first part of
the game, Like there's a ship ton

902
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.440
of game after that. Like it
looks like some half of the footage looked

903
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:58.119
like the first five minutes right,
get the train stuff, right, Like

904
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:00.519
most of what they showed looks like
it could be from the first like two

905
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:02.840
hours of the game or whatever,
and there's like another seventy eight hours after

906
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:07.440
that or something. So I like
building these environments, you know, and

907
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:09.440
filling them out with stuff is the
limiting factor, Like how long is this

908
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:14.039
thing going to take to get done? I don't know. That seems like

909
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.000
a that that seems like the sort
of project that is just a noose around

910
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:20.320
your neck. Many sign up for
it, and you're like, we're gonna

911
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:24.280
eat the next six seven years,
no way out of such a thankless time.

912
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:28.239
Hopefully it'll do well. There's no
pleasing everybody with this thing. Like

913
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.840
it's fun for me to revisit it, but everyone's gonna hate us, ye

914
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.800
as well, might as well have
some fun with Let's hope that by the

915
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:37.199
end of it we've turned them around. Yeah, but this is the only

916
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:38.119
way to get made. And they
told me that I had to be the

917
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:42.159
one to make it so it's either
quit or do this. Also, especially

918
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:44.519
the weird thing is that the guys
that they're quoting for this stuff are very

919
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:45.840
much working on other games at the
same time. Yeah, you know,

920
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:50.280
No More is the director of Kingdomart's
three. Yeah, and was directing Fun

921
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:52.519
and Fantasy fifteen until they put somebody
else on it. But like, but

922
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:54.960
if they're outsourcing a ton of this
cont yeah, that's nothing. And they're

923
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:58.800
gonna be the figureheads for it regardless, and get there the Internal Square people.

924
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:00.119
And they also have you know,
a I see connection to the original

925
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:05.039
game. I mean, yeah,
who knows what they're actually actual involvement is

926
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:08.280
what a boondoggle? Yeah, everybody
seemed to be feeling really good about that

927
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:10.400
based on the footage, and then
a day and a half later, you

928
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:15.000
know, the other shoe dropped.
All right, let's run down a bunch

929
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.599
of the other stuff that happened at
the PlayStation experience. They kicked off that

930
00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:22.079
keynote with some new and charted stuff. I had a diet pepsi. Yeah,

931
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.719
how was that? It's cold?
Yeah? Yeah, taste born in

932
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:29.000
the Carolina's Yeah, do you have
any of that party mix in the media

933
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:31.400
lounge. No, it's good party. I liked the party. Yeah they

934
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:34.039
didn't have any bar. I wasn't
there to party. I was there to

935
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:37.000
work. Yeah that's that's a lie. But we'll get to that lane.

936
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:44.039
While all right on Charted four has
dialogue choices in it. Yeah, yeah,

937
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:45.880
that at least that opening cinematic which
appears to be the beginning of the

938
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:50.760
game. Yeah, like that does
That was maybe the most exciting thing I've

939
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:53.199
seen about and Charted four so far. I bet they don't make that much

940
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:55.960
of a difference. Probably not.
Bet they make no difference, Probably not,

941
00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:00.480
But that's the only one. Also, come on, that can't come

942
00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:02.880
on? Yeah, maybe they maybe
they just gen that up the police station

943
00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:07.679
experience. How much that chrisma do
you think? Nathan Jake eys, he's

944
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:12.679
like a solid time probably yeah,
sure, okay, yeah something like that.

945
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:15.719
I just you know, they made
three fucking uncharted games that we're all

946
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:19.840
kind of the same, Like any
anything changing it up at all is kind

947
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.199
of exciting to see you right,
Also, did you guys actually able to

948
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:25.360
shoot your gun? Sarcastic? Right, right, Yes, did you guys

949
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:30.440
you got watched that cut scene that
they like you see all that stuff the

950
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:32.599
whole when his brother kept going on
and on about like it's it's like I

951
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.639
can't believe you, blah blah blah, you know, and he's like,

952
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:37.519
yeah, well it happened like this. He was like, no, it's

953
00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:39.880
literally unbelievable that, Like I thought
I was for a minute, I was

954
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:45.280
hoping they were going in a direction
where like Nathan Drake turns out to just

955
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:47.920
be the like, the most successful
con man in history, and like none

956
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:51.639
of the previous games ever actually had
it. You're just playing through his life,

957
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:53.599
do you exposed? The entire game
is just exposing Nathan Drake as a

958
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:59.840
giant fraud. Oh that would be
so great, or he's crazy like games

959
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:01.119
like I don't believe you. Let's
go back there and you can prove it

960
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:06.079
to me. And you get there
and there's nothing there. Yeah, those

961
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:13.159
places exist. Sully's like his parole
officer Shambala is more like it. Yes,

962
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:20.280
sick burn Okay. They announced the
final character for Street Fighter five.

963
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:27.119
His name is Fong Yeah with period
an. I don't know you tell me,

964
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:29.800
you guys, You and Jayson did
not seem especially stoked on that guy.

965
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:30.599
I think he looks kind of lame. He just looks like a goofy

966
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:36.559
like comedy characters like this really lanky, kind of tall hat wearing dude slender

967
00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:38.719
Man. Yeah, I kind of
like not too far off, I don't

968
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:44.559
know. Yeah, and he's a
shadow loop guy, so I don't know

969
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:47.199
works for Bison. Sure, new
background stage that had a cool set of

970
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:51.800
statues in it. I thought was
neat. But yeah, that character seemed

971
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:52.880
like a bad one too. I
don't know what a good one would be

972
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:55.400
though, Like, but he didn't
seem like a great way to like end

973
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:59.559
the Here are all the characters in
our game, Like, that's that's the

974
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:05.159
the last character for launch. Yes, so they've announced the full roster and

975
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.920
then they announced the which I think
this had leaked out, but they said

976
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:12.519
what the first six additional characters would
be. Oh yeah, I think the

977
00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:14.920
internet had figured that one out.
Yeah, a lot of stuff was in

978
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:16.599
the beta and they hacked the names
out and stuff. But yeah, that's

979
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:22.719
like and then came out and kicked
his ass. Yeah someone had too,

980
00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:25.800
might as well be Geo Real lived
Oaken took place right there on stage.

981
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.880
It was cool hockey Jersey. They
spent a bunch of time on Battlefront and

982
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:34.440
Call of Duty. Yeah, there
was. Well, I mean I imagine

983
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:36.800
they have to, like you know, like like that thing is mostly focused

984
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.199
on smaller games. They probably have
to just like pay some lip service to

985
00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:43.880
the companies they've partnered with. Yeah. I thought it was so weird seeing

986
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:45.360
those on the show floor, like
these big booths for Call of Duty and

987
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:49.239
Battlefront and people like waiting in line
to play it. What are you doing?

988
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:51.079
Why do you think money? They
come to this thing? Yeah,

989
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:53.519
in line to play games that are
already out. You know, it's really

990
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:58.199
weird. But what people weren't people? People may not have had a chance

991
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:00.400
to see those games before, and
I think they had it on they had

992
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:06.639
an upcoming level for a Battlefront.
Yeah, that's it's just free DLC.

993
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.159
So that's free for everybody. Again, Still, why I wait and lone?

994
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:13.079
Is this this thirty day exclusivity on
Call of Duty DLC? Was that

995
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:15.360
a new thing? No, that's
that's the standard. That's what I don't

996
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:17.119
know. It's been standard for Microsoft, But had it not been announced before

997
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:21.760
now for that out there, I
think that was a new three thing.

998
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:23.480
Yeah, I don't know they said
thirty days specifically, but that was always

999
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:27.079
how the clause worked before. That's
what this story I'm looking at says.

1000
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:29.519
So it's yeah, I mean yeah, they got up there and said,

1001
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:35.360
hey, remember we were the Forced
the Force is strong with PlayStation and also

1002
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:37.559
we got those Call of Duty maps, y'all sure do it was it was

1003
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:40.440
like a weird moment. It was
like, hey, we're we'll open with

1004
00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:44.119
Final Fantasy. Then let's get this
stuff out of the way so we can

1005
00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:46.079
get back into announcement territory. Like
I thought that was stuff went fine,

1006
00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:47.760
but it's like it's just one of
the things you just look at and go

1007
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:52.599
like this didn't actually need to be
here. Someone just wanted to make someone

1008
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:58.000
at some other company feel like they
were appreciated. I'm sure everybody wants to

1009
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:02.199
feel important. Yeah, you know, uh, you know who is important.

1010
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:07.280
It's a bad segue, Tim Shaefer. Okay, he showed up that

1011
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:12.119
both of these things. Yeah,
they had more announcements. Uh Full Throttle

1012
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:15.440
remastered. Yeah, you guys,
anybody ever played Full Throttle here? I

1013
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:17.639
have never played it. It never
did anything for me. It was like

1014
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:21.880
it is like there are there,
they are already doing Day of the Tentacle

1015
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:23.559
and that's the one when it comes
to that sort of stuff, you know,

1016
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:27.599
you can't that I want the mostest. Yeah, so Full Throttle was

1017
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:30.719
kind of like got already kind of
moved on from the genre by the time

1018
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.320
they were making Full Throttle, so
it's it was never like that in Grim

1019
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:36.320
Fandango both. I was just like, you know, it's full throttle.

1020
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:40.960
Late nineties, mid ninety five is
show. Yeah, Grim Fang was after

1021
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:46.079
that. Okay, yeah, I
did that remaster come out? Yeah,

1022
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:50.559
okay, but but not all year
they showed that Day of the Tentacle remaster.

1023
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:53.039
That looks nice. It looked like
it looked like a lot of the

1024
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:57.320
filters that come with every emulator out
there. So yeah, but they're redoing

1025
01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:59.840
all yeah, well they're redoing it. But also like it's the same number

1026
01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:02.159
of raimes, it's the everything.
It was exactly the so interesting, everything

1027
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:06.079
moves like exactly the same. But
you know, I don't I don't think

1028
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.599
I want like a huge graphical overhaul
for that game. But that's one of

1029
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:13.480
those things where I still have my
CD copy of Day of the Tentacle and

1030
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:16.960
you can still run it through scum
VM and it's a fine version of that

1031
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:21.920
game and its original format. Yeah, so like smooth edges on that stuff.

1032
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:23.280
I think I think it looks good. It's it's that game should come

1033
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:25.239
out and be accessible to more people. Yeah, exactly. It was a

1034
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:28.760
great adventure. Well, like I
think it's I think it's really cool that

1035
01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:31.199
Tim Shaffer is going after every game
he's ever made and getting them all under

1036
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:35.039
the under their roof. You know. That's cool kind of topping that well

1037
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:39.280
so many left right Maniac Mansion and
uh yeah, well he didn't he didn't

1038
01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:43.320
run that one. Yeah. I
think Data Tonacle was the first one.

1039
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:45.719
He like co directed that with Dave
Grossman. Right, that's that's I think

1040
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:49.519
that's rightful Fortle was the first one
he did entirely by himself. I just

1041
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:52.280
I just have a lot of respect
for somebody that cares that much about their

1042
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:54.440
body of work to go back and
like buy it all up and and or

1043
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:58.199
I guess they don't. They didn't
buy the rights in some of these cases,

1044
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:00.239
but like, yeah, you know, did the business like work and

1045
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:04.800
found the all the old assets and
stuff to make it happen. It's cool.

1046
01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:07.679
Yeah, yeah, I still have
my Triangle Box for a day.

1047
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:09.639
The Tentacles. Yeah, yeah,
it's yeah. I remember seeing that thing

1048
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:13.119
in stores when I didn't have a
computer to play it on. I was

1049
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:15.360
like, man, I bet that's
cool. That looked neat. It's a

1050
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:19.760
it is a phenomenal game. Yeah. And the voice of less Nestment from

1051
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.679
Yes from Wrap and s It's duty. Yeah, that's crazy. That alone

1052
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:27.519
makes me want to play that thing
more than anything. I also I wanted

1053
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.280
to do some of the any guys
played The Grim the Grim from that Girl

1054
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:31.840
a little bit. I had not
as much as because you know, at

1055
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:34.840
the end of the day, it's
still an adventure game and at a certain

1056
01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:37.079
point I need to like pull up
a fact to really progress in it ectly.

1057
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:39.679
But like they did a great job
with it. Yeah. The commentary

1058
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:44.960
is the thing that I really liked
about it a lot, which was that's

1059
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:46.360
the thing I liked and the thing
I wish it had was the Remember they

1060
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:50.760
did the special edition of Monkey Island
and they had the like tips thing.

1061
01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:52.679
There was like three layers of tips
right like ask it and would like nudge

1062
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:54.840
you in the right direction, and
then like on the third one of which

1063
01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:58.000
is straight up to tell you.
So I think that stuff came straight out

1064
01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:01.199
of the Hint books, because that's
Lucas used to sell hint guides that were

1065
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:06.199
like invisible ink and you would rub
out like the the and you'd rub out

1066
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:07.079
the first one and then the second
one and the third one and be like,

1067
01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:09.159
all right, just give him this
and do this. So I want,

1068
01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:10.840
I want to say that that stuff, it might have just there.

1069
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:14.800
Maybe one of those existed for that
game. I think one existed for Indiana

1070
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:15.960
Jones. But I hope they do
with this because it's an not a scum

1071
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:19.719
game, because they didn't than Grim
Grim didn't happen any of that stuff,

1072
01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:22.480
and I think that's probably a game
that needs it, maybe more than Monkey

1073
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:24.800
On. Yeah, yes, so
I thought it'd be pretty cool. Yeah,

1074
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:28.760
it's a nice job they're doing with
that stuff. They announced they knew

1075
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:31.800
another Psychonauts game for PlayStation VR.
Also, oh yeah, great little I

1076
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:37.039
love that animation, the little Palmer
Lucky Yeah, beach thing. Yeah,

1077
01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:40.079
it's Psychonauts. Guy, I don't
I don't think I actually showed that game,

1078
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:45.079
do they Nobody? They had the
logo up and it's probably the Psychonauts

1079
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:49.960
in the Rhombus of the Rhombus of
Ruin Ruin. Yes, that game will

1080
01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:52.760
be set between Psychonauts one and two. It's the dark middle chapter. Yeah,

1081
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:58.559
the Psychonauts saga. Uh, let's
see what else happened? Yaka is

1082
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:02.920
a zero is coming over here?
And then five is out today? Really,

1083
01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:06.320
I think okay, or zero out
today and they're doing five. It's

1084
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:12.559
one of the other. All I
know is the Girls zero is the one

1085
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:15.719
that just kind announced see it out? Yeah? Girls look great? What

1086
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:23.320
the trailer said, Yeah, don't
worry kids, Let's see Ace Combat seven

1087
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:25.719
for PlayStation VR. Yeah. Like
I saw that. I was just like,

1088
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:29.599
yep, okay, yes, that's
if you're gonna take one real video

1089
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:31.320
game franchise and shove it into your
VR headset, that is the one.

1090
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:35.320
So I want to say they'd are
already said that an ace Combat thing was

1091
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:39.320
coming for VR out of TGS the
same I think honestly it was in the

1092
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.679
same breath as the Tech and seven
VR announcement. Really, but I could

1093
01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:47.199
be wrong, really, I'm I
could definitely be wrong. Is a new

1094
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:51.440
thing. So but the so the
interesting thing there or well whatever, I'm

1095
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:57.599
not that interesting. But the official
like Twitter account for Project Aces or whatever

1096
01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:03.239
tweeted out, welcome back to the
strange real It's good to be here,

1097
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:06.320
thanks for having me. It's what
they called the reality. That is what

1098
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:12.360
fans called that reality. Wait,
and it never was officially embraced until this

1099
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:15.800
very moment really, so it's so
it is a very clear way for them

1100
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:20.000
to signal this game will take place
in they're fucking crazy anime war world.

1101
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:24.599
It's not like some realistic you know, it's not like that Last Day's Combat

1102
01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:28.599
game where it's like fly helicopter and
gets sick to STULTI yeah, when was

1103
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:30.239
it. I feel like the early
ones were just kind of like, hey,

1104
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:32.719
I'm just flying cool air. And
the early ones were based on arcade

1105
01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:35.079
games, so it was just like, yeah, just shoot it down and

1106
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:38.719
go to the next level. And
it was like PS two PS two air.

1107
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:41.679
Maybe it's kind about five or so
around there, and it started getting

1108
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.519
real weird and they really leaned into
it by the time that like sixty one

1109
01:05:44.679 --> 01:05:47.880
came out. Yeah yeah, yeah, so they're they're gonna make one of

1110
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:51.079
those sounds like sure, so yeah, can I shoot missiles of planes and

1111
01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:55.000
VR? Yeah, I'm gonna I'm
gonna go out on a limb here and

1112
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:58.119
say yes, can I hold in
circle and the camera will follow the missile?

1113
01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:00.159
That I can't. I can't sure, but that was my favorite,

1114
01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:08.199
very sick. I want to do
that. I don't know if there will

1115
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:11.880
be a camera. You are the
camera, yeah, like you, I

1116
01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:14.360
don't think you can do that anymore. I mean you can, there's a

1117
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:16.320
third person stuff. Yeah, but
like I don't know that that stuff works.

1118
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:20.760
I mean, like you say that, like I'm just following a missile.

1119
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:24.920
Well, camera control independent of your
head movement is what I mean?

1120
01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:29.119
Like, like you sensory perception standard. I think the thing you could,

1121
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.400
Yes, there there is a way
to do that. It would just have

1122
01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:36.440
to be kind of a slow fade
to transition from one viewpoint to the others.

1123
01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:41.360
I talked to a number of developers
doing VR games with this weekend about

1124
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:45.840
just like how crazy it is to
figure out these rules as they go along,

1125
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:47.519
you know, in terms of like
like like they don't know going in,

1126
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:50.880
what's gonna make people sick, Like
what's gonna like totally scramble your brains.

1127
01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:54.679
In terms of like having camera moves
and like do all kinds of weird

1128
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.440
stuff. Yeah, So it seems
like people are starting to figure out some

1129
01:06:57.519 --> 01:06:59.800
kind of early things, and it
is stuff like you can't just do a

1130
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:02.800
cut to now you're controlling a missile
or now you're you're following a missile,

1131
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:06.519
Like there has to be kind of
a transition, yeah, to make that

1132
01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:10.840
to make your brain not wig out. Like all kinds of stuff that I'll

1133
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:13.199
touch on this sum later with another
game that I played, but just all

1134
01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.760
kinds of stuff that works fine on
a TV screen that suddenly doesn't when you've

1135
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:17.880
got it in the head mounted display. Well, I mean if it makes

1136
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:24.039
like if it makes the player feel
something even if it's bad, you know

1137
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:28.280
someone's gonna make that game where it
just uses all that like dark knowledge,

1138
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:32.239
like the game I want in the
game I want VR Simulator twenty sixteen.

1139
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:34.599
That's that's what it is. Like, Yeah, that's just the thing that's

1140
01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:39.119
like makes you throw up as fast
ass that goal them I mean vrans,

1141
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:43.199
Like you're controlling a girl who's wearing
a blindfold that takes the place of a

1142
01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:45.480
VR headset and then she's controlling a
goal them. That's kind of yeah,

1143
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.159
yeah I played that. Yeah,
that's the game I was about. I

1144
01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:50.480
was talking about, like I figured
i'd get to that later. Apparently I'm

1145
01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:53.760
one of like half a dozen people
that managed to because they were showing it

1146
01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:55.800
in a hotel room. Okay,
and it did not get out to a

1147
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:58.400
lot of people, but I guess
I could just talk about it now.

1148
01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:01.360
It was really limited demo. Okay. Yeah, so yes, the setup

1149
01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:04.039
of the game is that you're like
a you're a disabled child who's like bedridden

1150
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:09.079
but has like the psychic ability to
take control of goalms, you know,

1151
01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:15.440
big like big stone automaton, big
monsters, rock monsters and control them and

1152
01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:17.600
like guide them around and stuff.
They were like two parts to the demo.

1153
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:20.119
One of them was in the bedroom
that you would be in, or

1154
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:23.720
one of them. I'm not sure
what the story set up is exactly there,

1155
01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:29.000
but they went full level lord with
it. Like the first first monster

1156
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:31.359
you occupied was doll size. Okay, so you go from like you start

1157
01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:33.600
out sitting in the bed as the
child, and then you go into the

1158
01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:36.800
doll and all of a sudden,
you're five inches tall walking around this gigantic

1159
01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:45.520
bedroom. Yes, yes, yes, low gravity was turned on and yeah

1160
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:48.600
it's it's it's it's the first person
game. But like they said, straight

1161
01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:50.960
up, you will play this entire
game sitting down, and I was immediately

1162
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:55.279
like all right, good, yes, not because like I want to be

1163
01:08:55.359 --> 01:08:58.640
lazy or whatever, but like I'd
not to get off on a tangent,

1164
01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:00.760
but like I used a vibe recently
in a very limited environment. Yeah,

1165
01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:04.239
it was not nearly big enough for
like what they're even trying to do with

1166
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:08.279
the demos for that thing. Ye, and it was incredibly frustrating because like

1167
01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:11.319
you literally could not walk far enough
to get across the virtual room because your

1168
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:14.439
real room was too small. Yeah
yeah, yeah, So like, uh,

1169
01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:16.439
seeing this game that is fully first
person and lets you walk around in

1170
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:21.359
the three D space but in a
seated uh kind of configuration was like kind

1171
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:29.479
of refreshing. Actually. So it's
your head's kind of the joystick lean forward

1172
01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:33.600
literally leans, so it is full, it is full three D freedom of

1173
01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:36.960
movement to walk around this three D
space just like in a like a standard

1174
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:41.000
first person game, but you're moving
your head around to do it. That

1175
01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:44.159
sounds like being drunk. It was. That sounds like you just your head

1176
01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:46.359
is leaning in the direction and you're
just like staggering in that direction as you're

1177
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:50.600
almost falling lean forward too much?
Uh, you know, I'd say it

1178
01:09:50.640 --> 01:09:54.039
took a couple of minutes to get
a feel for kind of how their sensitivity

1179
01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:56.560
was set up. But like by
the time, by the end of the

1180
01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:58.880
five minutes I spent walking around that
room and that was all you could do

1181
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:00.640
in that portion was literally just explore
this room, just walk around and look

1182
01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:03.319
at stuff. Also you had to
you had to move controller, which was

1183
01:10:03.359 --> 01:10:06.560
a candle in that situation, which
was a light source you could wave around

1184
01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:10.079
in the shadows were all reactive,
and it looked it looked really nice.

1185
01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:15.319
But it was nice to see here
is a proper first person game in VR

1186
01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:18.680
that actually felt pretty good to control. By the end of it, Like

1187
01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:21.600
I had a weird moment of I
was like, because I was walking around

1188
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:25.840
and like you're leaning forward to move
forward and not like you would kind of

1189
01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:29.600
like turn your head to turn right
or left and then keep walking straight.

1190
01:10:29.640 --> 01:10:30.920
And I had a moment of I
was like, man, I wish I

1191
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:33.920
could strafe though with this. I
wish there was like a modifier button to

1192
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:38.720
like like hold LTA. Yeah,
like hold hold the button on the move

1193
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:42.359
to go to left and right movement. And then without even consciously thinking about

1194
01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:44.560
it, I just tilted my head
to the side and then I was strafing

1195
01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:46.079
like it was kind of cool.
And by the end of it, I

1196
01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:48.399
found this little crystal on the floor
and I was sort of practicing with it

1197
01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:53.159
and I managed to like circle strafe
around it like first person shooter style in

1198
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:57.399
like a pretty consistent way. Like
it actually felt really good, and that

1199
01:10:57.399 --> 01:11:00.079
game looks really good. I mean, they're on Unreal Engine four. I

1200
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:04.279
believe I must be four. But
like the fear with the PlayStation vr IS

1201
01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:08.199
has always been like the games won't
look amazing, right because you're on this

1202
01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:12.079
kind of already weak GPU and it's
not like you can just render two eyes.

1203
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:14.479
It's said, you know, a
high frame right now, you're asking

1204
01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:16.399
for a lot of performance out of
a console level piece of hardware, and

1205
01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:19.439
so you can't just throw a better
G force at it or whatever. But

1206
01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:24.279
that thing looked great, like fantastic
lighting, like really detailed environment, like

1207
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:28.640
it looked super impressive. The second
part was outdoors, and it was like

1208
01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:32.520
a sword fighting demo against another monster. So you're using the move to position

1209
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:34.560
your sword and it's all one to
one movement, you know, it's all

1210
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:36.760
it's all hold it up and wait
the sword around in front of you,

1211
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:41.279
and it was like pretty limited stuff
in terms of the way the monster would

1212
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:44.119
attack you. It had had like
maybe five different attacks, kind of an

1213
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:46.399
overheads chop, you know, it
would try to poke you. But it

1214
01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:50.279
still felt really good to move the
sword, you know. Yeah, as

1215
01:11:50.319 --> 01:11:54.039
you were actually moving the move controller
and like block the hits that we're coming

1216
01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:56.960
in. So, you know,
like in terms of gameplay, it wasn't

1217
01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:00.840
that much beyond a tech demo,
but just seeing that they've got movement figured

1218
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:03.000
out in first person was like really
exciting, you know, because I was

1219
01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:04.840
talking about like it's like, oh, you know, like a lot of

1220
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:09.760
connect games like Fable Journey or whatever
came out and like they said they weren't

1221
01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:12.479
gonna be on rails, and they
totally were, you know, and they

1222
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:14.560
said, like no, you know, we could we could PLoP this control

1223
01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:16.119
scheme down in the middle of a
battlefield map and it would totally work.

1224
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:24.239
So to see like proper games,
proper environments, and like the method to

1225
01:12:24.359 --> 01:12:29.479
explore them being being rolled out on
this hardware is really exciting. Yeah,

1226
01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:31.720
for sure, that's it. Yeah, it seems like in like five years

1227
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:34.760
time, we'll listen back on this
podcast, and that'll all be just assimilated

1228
01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:38.239
knowledge. Like they're going to figure
this stuff out, and that's just going

1229
01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:43.239
to be like horrible, all tank
so hard that we will never get past

1230
01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:45.279
this. Well, but it at
least defess the case. It won't be

1231
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:46.560
because they couldn't figure out how to
make good games for him, right,

1232
01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:49.640
which was the problem with connect right. Yeah. Yeah, And this is

1233
01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:54.720
Marty o'donald. This is Martyo o'donald's
studio. He was there and a couple

1234
01:12:54.760 --> 01:12:58.319
other like long time industry veterans that
co founded the new studio with him,

1235
01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:01.000
and like they're a really small team. I think they're like people high wired

1236
01:13:02.199 --> 01:13:05.039
just working on that. Yeah,
and like they're looking to keep it small,

1237
01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:08.720
you know. So it's kind of
it's nice to see like an indie

1238
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:11.960
level game being made for this thing. It's that VRX case of yes,

1239
01:13:12.119 --> 01:13:16.880
PlayStation VR exclusive. Wow Jesus really, but yeah, that that stuff was

1240
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:19.159
really impressive to see, even though
I didn't get see much of the actual

1241
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:23.760
game. Like between between it looking
really nice and running smoothly and then and

1242
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:28.600
like kind of having some interesting control
stuff, I was I was impressed.

1243
01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:30.359
When you say the leaning to walk
forward thing that is like just made me

1244
01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.359
smile. That's like, oh,
that's how you do it. Yeah,

1245
01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:35.199
like like in this in this case, I felt like I maybe I had

1246
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:38.279
to lean a little more than I
wanted to, or it was there.

1247
01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:41.640
I know in some cases I was
not meaning to lean and moving when I

1248
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:45.319
didn't want to. But like they
said that they would probably offer like sensitivity

1249
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:46.840
settings for that stuff so you can
kind of dial it in to how you

1250
01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:53.079
want it. So that that all
looked pretty exciting. Cool. Uh that

1251
01:13:53.159 --> 01:14:00.800
was not the most attention grabbing VR
announcement of the weekend. Yeah, uh,

1252
01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:04.520
that honor goes to hundred foot robot
golf. I mean obviously it was

1253
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:09.079
riz, but let's hundred fort robot
golf looks awesome. It does. Yeah,

1254
01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:12.079
totally. No that actually, I
mean like like no, no joke.

1255
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:15.000
That seemed to elicit some of the
most positive response of that whole keynote.

1256
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:17.640
Yeah, it's you know, you
can play golf on a battleship.

1257
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:23.199
Whoever would have thought, like an
aircraft carrier, right, smash down buildings

1258
01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:25.800
to make your your shot matter.
Yeah, I was kind of I was

1259
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:27.680
kind of out of the room.
Is that guy announced to sort of ran

1260
01:14:27.720 --> 01:14:30.600
back in to see the end of
it, like it is there a destruction

1261
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:32.520
component to that game? Like are
you actually even playing golf at all?

1262
01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:35.800
In any sense whatsoever? I don't
know. It looks like that Golf question

1263
01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:41.520
Mark game certain extent, and then
Ninja Golf for the Atari seventy eight hundred,

1264
01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:45.920
but with giant robots a parrene.
There is an old Nez game any

1265
01:14:46.079 --> 01:14:50.279
s game that is giant mec robots
playing golf. There's a Superintendo game called

1266
01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:54.760
Mecca Robot Golf. Yeah that's a
Yeah, it's like ninety three or something.

1267
01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:58.399
Okay, yeah, that's a that's
a no Goblin joint. Yeah.

1268
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:02.319
The makers of Rounded, Yes,
friend of the site, Danteesdale awesome working

1269
01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:08.279
on that. It's also that modern
taxi Zombie Taxi Company, which looked weird

1270
01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:11.760
enough to be interesting. I don't
know if anyone got to play that,

1271
01:15:11.800 --> 01:15:15.079
but like the trailer made it look
pretty funny. Reminded me of Enviral Bear

1272
01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:18.560
two thousands. That thing. Yeah, oh I didn't the zombie tax company

1273
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:23.880
thing yet, I totally missed.
I think that looks super weird, but

1274
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:29.439
yeah, Res infinite res infinite specifically
is the name of that thing. Yeah,

1275
01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:32.439
yeah, enhanced Games, which is
uh, let's tetsi mis Gucci's new

1276
01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:36.840
thing thing that was founded earlier this
year. Uh, they are making REZ

1277
01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:45.199
again. Yeah, like it's rezka. Everything I saw was from original REZ.

1278
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:47.520
So if you watch the presentation,
there is something near the end of

1279
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:51.319
that trailer where they talk about something
called Area X and they show the character

1280
01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:56.720
the avatar in something that looks like
it is a little less on rails.

1281
01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:00.520
So it seems a wait really yeah, oh shit, so it seems like

1282
01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:02.720
there is gonna be there. Well, so there will be something new in

1283
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:08.279
that game. But what they were
showing was REZ uh and you can play

1284
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:10.760
it on TV if you like.
It was outputting to a TV just the

1285
01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:14.960
same. But I played it with
interesting Actually did they say if you could

1286
01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:16.960
just buy it and play with the
controller? Yes, like nor option?

1287
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:21.359
Oh oh wow, okay, also
not gonna be full price? Wait really

1288
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:27.079
yeah? Yeah there's there's that's that's
got to be a downloadable. That's that's

1289
01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:29.439
even better. Well, I mean
you know, like, like you said,

1290
01:16:29.439 --> 01:16:30.800
there's new stuff in it, So
the question is how much new stuff?

1291
01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:33.800
Yeah, maybe they could fill it
enough to make it sixty totally totally

1292
01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:38.319
not. Did everybody in this room
play it? Uh, try to,

1293
01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:41.760
couldn't. I think we all played
it with the vibro suit, right,

1294
01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:44.199
yeah, I think, well the
three of us tried the suit. Yeah,

1295
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:46.199
so that was the other thing they
had is that's that's not it's not

1296
01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:49.560
going to be for sale in the
form. It's real cool form I talked

1297
01:16:49.600 --> 01:16:53.880
to. I talked to Miss a
little bit after I played it. Yes,

1298
01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:57.680
oh, yes, the miss was
there, uh, the original Miss.

1299
01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:00.680
After I had asked him a few
questions, he then proceeded to ask

1300
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:02.920
me how much I would pay for
that thing. I wanted to buy it

1301
01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:08.760
alongside the game. Your answer,
I was like, maybe another eighty dollars,

1302
01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:12.079
Like I would maybe go to one
hundred. Maybe that seems like it

1303
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.600
would be more. It would depend
on Yeah, totally. That's very Yeah.

1304
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:17.560
And and there's a new story that
I wrote an impressions piece based on

1305
01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:20.399
the game. You can find on
the website that has a bunch of pictures

1306
01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:25.479
of me wearing this thing. Uh. It had twenty six actuators in it

1307
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:30.199
was hooked up to a rack mount
setup with like five different blades looking things

1308
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:32.800
in it. In the rack,
I took a picture of that. There

1309
01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:35.319
my whole bunch of wires going into
the back of that suit. Yeah,

1310
01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:40.199
it's you know, it's a crazy
thing, yeah, but fucking awesome.

1311
01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:42.680
Yes. Also, I didn't know
that. I didn't know that he is,

1312
01:17:42.720 --> 01:17:45.439
like he's part time professor at I
believe a ko University, Like he

1313
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:47.840
has access to like or he is
working in a lot of R and D

1314
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:53.359
and experimental yea, design and hardware
stuff. So that would totally makes sense.

1315
01:17:53.359 --> 01:17:55.800
How how something like that could come
about. Yeah, so you know,

1316
01:17:55.880 --> 01:17:59.239
they they had keyed up the demo
to kind of respond or you know,

1317
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:01.279
work with the twenty six at actuators. So over the course of like

1318
01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:04.359
this, so they what they ad
was gosh, So the thing that I

1319
01:18:04.399 --> 01:18:08.119
played with the suit on, I
assume it was the same thing you guys

1320
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:10.760
did where it was like kind of
level one, but it was the level

1321
01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:14.239
four boss. Yeah, uh so
kind of a truncated level. It's just

1322
01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:16.079
kind of for the demo, a
three minute thing, right yeah. Yeah,

1323
01:18:16.319 --> 01:18:18.600
And so that was just kind of
like you know, pulsating in your

1324
01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:21.279
chest and your arms and then at
some point it just works its way down

1325
01:18:21.279 --> 01:18:24.319
to your legs and you're like,
oh shit, dude, I was.

1326
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:27.479
I was oh shit from second one, like the first time one of those

1327
01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:30.199
vibrations went off, like I forgot
that I was wearing that stuff, and

1328
01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:32.079
so they kicked in and like it
starts so subtle, like just a couple

1329
01:18:32.119 --> 01:18:34.640
things in your chest or whatever,
and then like as you're going forward,

1330
01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:38.720
is the whole body is just thumping
and pulsating with the music, and holy

1331
01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:41.520
shit, that was incredible headphones that
are turned up very loud. Yeah,

1332
01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:45.119
yeah, it is. It's a
thing. It's nuts. I mean,

1333
01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:49.399
it's intense, like but also so
I played the entire first level without the

1334
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:54.000
suit on. Yeah. Yeah,
And so that was the first time I

1335
01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:58.159
played it was that Yeah, And
that was ninety five Okay, Yes,

1336
01:18:58.279 --> 01:19:00.760
I had said the exact same thing
to somebody yesterday. I said, like

1337
01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:02.600
eighty percent, but very much like, yes, most of the effect is

1338
01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:06.359
being in that world in the VR
headset with with the with loud, with

1339
01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:10.560
good headphones like suit the suit is
all well and good, but like it's

1340
01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:13.199
just playing that game in VR is
you could So that's why I think,

1341
01:19:13.199 --> 01:19:15.399
you know, like you know,
I think that if they can find a

1342
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:17.600
way to make something that is a
little more reasonably priced with you know,

1343
01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:20.520
fewer actuators or this and that.
Like I think that there's a way for

1344
01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:24.000
like, hey, we put some
we put out a shirt with some put

1345
01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:26.920
out some sleeves for your arms,
body body gloves some of you to strap

1346
01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:29.560
your legs or you know, like
trans vibrate or two point zero. You

1347
01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:33.079
know, I think that there's there's
room for that as like a crazy kind

1348
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:38.119
of high end item. But I
also feel like the game definitely doesn't require

1349
01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:44.479
uh and and it like playing through
that entire first level, it's fucking intense,

1350
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:50.079
realzy. It's reallywel's and you it
does things that like you know that

1351
01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:53.760
I feel like other VR developers have
said like, hey, this is a

1352
01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:57.359
thing you should never do, and
it was some of my favorite stuff in

1353
01:19:57.399 --> 01:20:00.640
that game was that, like specifically
like using your head as radical like to

1354
01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:02.239
aim at things. Well, I
thought that was great. But also so

1355
01:20:02.239 --> 01:20:04.319
it's a it's a third person behind
the back, you know, it is

1356
01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:09.319
it is the view of a traditional
res and like I suspect they'll put a

1357
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:12.079
first person view in there, it
doesn't necessarily need it, or you could

1358
01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:17.520
just remove the character right from so
when you go from layer to layer across

1359
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:25.239
a level, like it gets fucking
fuzzy blurdy crazy and then pops and comes

1360
01:20:25.279 --> 01:20:30.000
back and you might be moving sideways. Uh you know, like what that's

1361
01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:32.439
just res you know, like sometimes
you're you know, it's it's Panzer dragoon

1362
01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:36.079
without the ability to rotate your around
your character. So sometimes you'll get to

1363
01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:39.920
like layer five or whatever and it's
like, oh, it's now it's like

1364
01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:43.920
I'm on the left side of the
character shooting things that are coming up alongside

1365
01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:47.000
of him as we go. You
can rotate in like the boss fight when

1366
01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:49.560
he would run behind you, you
could turn around with that was yeah,

1367
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:53.920
you could turn around, but like
could you turn around and shoot? Yeah?

1368
01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:57.199
Yeah, Mark was Mark McDonald was
yelling at Brad because he was doing

1369
01:20:57.199 --> 01:20:59.479
the boss fight and he was just
waiting for him to run back into his

1370
01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:03.079
view too. Yeah, so since
I had heard Mark yelled at I did

1371
01:21:03.119 --> 01:21:05.880
that and yeah, as he's running
behind you and everything, you can completely

1372
01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:09.279
turn around and shoot at him.
And god damn it though, was cool.

1373
01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:15.119
Huh wow. Yeah, So you
know it's it's crazy, and you

1374
01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:19.479
know it is a bunch of crazy, pulsating squiggly lines and like wild.

1375
01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:24.439
Like, so much of VR so
far has not been abstract, you know,

1376
01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:28.279
it's been like humanoids, it's been
like first person experiences. It's been

1377
01:21:28.319 --> 01:21:31.439
you know, like some form of
a reality right or super cartoony like a

1378
01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:34.680
job simulator. Right, but that's
still you know, hands like that doing

1379
01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:39.560
human stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
so this is just like so far removed

1380
01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:43.720
from that, uh that it's it's
kind of amazing. Yeah, even though

1381
01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:46.359
it's it's it's res you know,
it's this is an almost fifteen year old

1382
01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:49.279
game. It like yeah, like
it on on one hand, it is

1383
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:51.880
exactly what you think it is.
It's that game in VR. But like

1384
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:54.960
on the other hand, like Enemy
Patterns, like all that stuff is there.

1385
01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:56.720
The only thing is they didn't have
a HUD in it at all.

1386
01:21:56.800 --> 01:21:59.960
But the but the sensory experience of
being in it is is pretty overwhelming.

1387
01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.079
It's like it's everything that REZ was
always supposed to be. Like I,

1388
01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:04.840
you know, I asked it,
like he gave a very kind of standard

1389
01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:09.159
answer about like, you know,
I asked him, like how did this

1390
01:22:09.279 --> 01:22:11.439
idea come about? You know,
like who started putting this together? Although

1391
01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:13.479
I was kind of curious about the
business aspect of it. Too, but

1392
01:22:15.039 --> 01:22:16.079
he gave a very standard answer,
but at the same time, like I

1393
01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:19.520
feel like it's totally applicable in this
case of like, hey, he basically

1394
01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:21.279
said, like, yeah, when
I thought of this game, it was

1395
01:22:21.319 --> 01:22:25.359
always in VR in my head,
you know, and like that just there

1396
01:22:25.439 --> 01:22:28.439
was no such technology back then.
But it's like like this game basically just

1397
01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:32.000
expanded onto the canvas that it was
designed for in the first place. Yeah,

1398
01:22:32.039 --> 01:22:35.079
and it's one of those things that
like, yeah, it's like a

1399
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:38.680
weird thing and it's this is you
know, this would be the kind of

1400
01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:43.560
the third release of rez As as
We Go or whatever RESHD and now this,

1401
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:47.279
but it makes perfect sense. Yea. I never found it super disorienting

1402
01:22:47.479 --> 01:22:50.000
or anything. In fact, like
I loved pausing you could pause with the

1403
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:54.800
touch pad and then just look around
the world. Like floating was really cool

1404
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:57.479
too. Yeah, but even with
the shifts and everything, I didn't feel

1405
01:22:58.199 --> 01:23:00.600
sick, or I didn't I didn't
feel sick, but it was definitely like

1406
01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:04.439
a it was a disorienting moment that
a lot of other VR things are strang

1407
01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:08.079
are trying to stay away from.
But yeah, but that in a bad

1408
01:23:08.079 --> 01:23:10.000
way, in a way that like
when it did do those shifts. I

1409
01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:12.840
was like, whoa, holy shit, yeah exactly, like and and maybe

1410
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.600
that'll be too intense for some people, like who knows, but like totally

1411
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:21.079
like it became. Yeah, it
became intense in a way that like very

1412
01:23:21.119 --> 01:23:24.520
few other VR things have done for
me, Like you know, like Vinnie

1413
01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:26.840
talked about, you know, his
time with the Vibe and you know,

1414
01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:29.920
like the portal demo and looking down
and getting this feeling of vertical like I've

1415
01:23:29.960 --> 01:23:33.159
never had that. I've never had
that feeling from any VR thing. It's

1416
01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:35.159
always just been like, well,
okay, here's this thing, Like you

1417
01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:39.479
know, my brain never bought into
like this is real or whatever. And

1418
01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:43.199
you know, rez doesn't look real, but there's just so much going on

1419
01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:45.239
that it gets you anyway. Not
only that, but like that demo drove

1420
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:48.920
home for me how goddamn huge the
vertical field of view is on those on

1421
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:50.880
that headset. And I guess that's
true of all of it, right,

1422
01:23:51.479 --> 01:23:55.000
just how tall the screens are,
Like you're used to, you know,

1423
01:23:55.039 --> 01:23:57.960
TV screens are much wider than they
are tall, but it's almost the opposite

1424
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.159
here. And like I feel like
the lack of round in that demo was

1425
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:02.920
a huge part of that because you
know, like every just about every VR

1426
01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:06.079
demo you are you're doing, you
are standing on a ground, you know,

1427
01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:09.960
like you're in a normal place,
so like the bottom half of the

1428
01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:13.640
environment doesn't matter because there's a surface
there. Yeah, but this game,

1429
01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:16.039
you are just suspended in space,
you know. Is that why it feels

1430
01:24:16.119 --> 01:24:19.800
like not jarring, because it's like
so much of VR is is trying to

1431
01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:25.000
apologize for the fact that it's not
matching your exact body, and you're like

1432
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:27.960
you're so aware of your where your
arms are because that's what you're trying to

1433
01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:30.039
do, is the fact that this
is basically just you being a floating head.

1434
01:24:30.319 --> 01:24:33.000
Like does it almost like get rid
of so many of those problems gave

1435
01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:36.479
it so you gave it a different
Like the environment felt downright cavernous to me.

1436
01:24:36.520 --> 01:24:40.039
It just felt fucking huge. Yeah, it all feels like you're going

1437
01:24:40.039 --> 01:24:42.399
on forever. Like those levels are
not long, they never were, but

1438
01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:45.640
like it felt it felt like I
was in there for an hour. But

1439
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:49.640
just like looking looking and it was
awesome looking, Yeah, just up,

1440
01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:53.840
down and around, Like it just
felt like a huge space. The sensory

1441
01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:57.399
deprivation time, Yeah, and then
yeah, I took I took it off

1442
01:24:57.439 --> 01:25:01.520
after playing through the first level and
then was like, legit disoriented, totally

1443
01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:06.840
totally wobbly on my feed for sure. Awesome, that's exactly what exactly.

1444
01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:11.760
Also, I'm gonna like, I'm
gonna humbly request that VR demos stopped taking

1445
01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:15.279
place on these like weird elevated stools. Like half the VR demos I've done,

1446
01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:18.520
You're sitting on this like bar stool
level like high chair kind of thing,

1447
01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:23.479
which is like a bicycle thing.
Yeah, already a little bit wobbly,

1448
01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:26.600
so once you're like completely deprived of
your senses, it's like super scary.

1449
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:29.720
I think they'd been doing them standing
up and they realized that like that

1450
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:32.159
was that some people were getting so
disoriented that maybe it wasn't the thing and

1451
01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:36.640
kind of found whatever stool they could
or something. But yeah, that nothing

1452
01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:41.319
is weird because again it's like res
is an own quantity and it's exactly what

1453
01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:43.640
you think it is when you play
it. But also like experiencing it is

1454
01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:46.399
kind of like the I think that
actually helps in a weird way because you

1455
01:25:46.439 --> 01:25:48.600
know what RES is, you know, you know, you know, like

1456
01:25:48.640 --> 01:25:51.039
I knew where those enemies were coming
from most of the time. You know,

1457
01:25:51.479 --> 01:25:54.880
my memory is not perfect with that
stuff, but I've played a lot

1458
01:25:54.920 --> 01:26:00.760
of fucking Rez. I have an
enduring respect and love for Res that goes

1459
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:05.520
beyond its actual quality. Uh sure, And it's very much just it's a

1460
01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:09.760
lots on shooter on it's five levels
and and a bonus level. Like you

1461
01:26:09.760 --> 01:26:12.079
know, it's a very short like
game. To say, it's very style

1462
01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:15.319
over substance totally. I'm not trying
to disparage it, but you know,

1463
01:26:15.399 --> 01:26:17.560
no, it is one of the
ultimate examples of that. But it goes

1464
01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:21.199
so far in that direction that like
what it doesn't matter, right, Uh,

1465
01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:25.640
it is still like an amazing experience, even four by three on a

1466
01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:30.239
fucking dreamcast. It's still did things
you know. Uh, so like having

1467
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:32.720
that knowledge base of Res and being
able to go like, oh, by

1468
01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:36.119
the way, here's the thing you
think you know a lot about and fuck

1469
01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:40.760
you like it was just like it, it's so much more. Uh,

1470
01:26:40.920 --> 01:26:44.680
it's so much more with that headset
on. It's It's really crazy. I

1471
01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:46.960
wonder if there's this well of video
games that have come out for the past,

1472
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:50.079
like you know, let's say three
D only like past twenty years past

1473
01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:55.880
ten, fifteen years that are actually
going to be super like applicable to VR.

1474
01:26:56.159 --> 01:26:59.119
That will be like like we'll have
the HD remasters, like the VR

1475
01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:04.039
remasters of these games that are going
to actually be like a transformative experience based

1476
01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:09.119
on the original one. Shark,
Yeah, Stewart Shark could be pick it

1477
01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:12.319
was actually it was justist I could
actually see in a weird way. It

1478
01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:15.439
was interesting talking to talking to those
High Wire guys about that because you know,

1479
01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:17.520
like I said, they've figured out
one possible solution for like first person

1480
01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:21.319
movement in VR, and like they
were saying, you know, because Marty

1481
01:27:21.479 --> 01:27:25.520
and Jamie one of the other founders, like we're both long time Bungee guys.

1482
01:27:25.560 --> 01:27:27.399
So they mentioned Halo as an example. But they were like, you

1483
01:27:27.439 --> 01:27:29.720
know, you could play Halo with
this control scheme, Like you couldn't do

1484
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:31.680
it on legendary like that would suck, yeah, but you could play it

1485
01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:35.840
on normal. You know. The
idea, the ideah, the idea of

1486
01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:40.640
going back to obviously you're not gonna
get Halo on PlayStation FR but like you

1487
01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:43.119
could go back to maybe some of
that old stuff and adapt it in a

1488
01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:45.760
way that made it make sense.
I think for me, it's like there's

1489
01:27:45.800 --> 01:27:49.479
an intensity that VR has lacked in
a lot of cases where it's like,

1490
01:27:49.520 --> 01:27:53.000
you know, you think about that
impulse geared demo and that sort of stuff,

1491
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:55.880
like they're shooting involved and there's all
that sort of stuff, but they

1492
01:27:55.920 --> 01:27:59.960
haven't. Like remember, it's like
when console shooters first started really kind of

1493
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:02.119
paving their own way. When you
think about Halo and you think about Golden

1494
01:28:02.119 --> 01:28:04.800
Eye and stuff like that, like
they were very slow games. You know,

1495
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:06.960
it's just like, well, you
know, we're going from like these

1496
01:28:08.039 --> 01:28:13.039
fast games on mouse and keyboard too, now like these very slow uh these

1497
01:28:13.199 --> 01:28:15.800
very slow moving almost tactical but you
know, it just felt like a thing

1498
01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:18.239
like well, you know, like
the controller is not what a mouse and

1499
01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:21.319
keyboard is precision wise, so we
need to go in this direction. It

1500
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:25.640
didn't It was slower, but it
didn't feel slow exactly. Like yeah,

1501
01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:28.680
they they found a different pace for
that game that made it work. You

1502
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:30.840
know, it's it's not, but
it would you know, it was slower

1503
01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:36.039
compared to Pay Yeah, and then
you know, now it's like we've had

1504
01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:43.079
decades or you know, a good
long time of playing console shooters and stuff

1505
01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:45.680
like that, and you've seen those
games start to speed up a little bit,

1506
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:47.279
and now you know, like movement
is all the rage, you know,

1507
01:28:47.319 --> 01:28:50.520
the wall runs and boosts to boost
to jumps and all this other stuff

1508
01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:54.399
like speed, you know, because
everyone's a lot more comfortable with the aiming,

1509
01:28:54.840 --> 01:28:58.359
like you could almost think about like
VR and first person shooting, but

1510
01:28:58.399 --> 01:29:01.880
also like just kind of joy en
roll as being that type of big reset

1511
01:29:01.920 --> 01:29:04.960
in a way right of just like
okay, well now we have to kind

1512
01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:08.800
of go back to this very slow
thing. We don't know where the line

1513
01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:12.640
is for people to get sick,
We don't know anything, so we have

1514
01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:15.560
to kind of turn down the intensity
and kind of figure out like what are

1515
01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:18.079
the things that actually work here,
and then ramp up from there. So

1516
01:29:18.199 --> 01:29:23.000
like a lot of these demos have
been very soft. They feel very soft

1517
01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:27.199
as someone who plays a lot of
video games. They they're not difficult,

1518
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:31.279
they're not challenging. They're not like
amazing like visceral crazy experiences. They're just

1519
01:29:31.319 --> 01:29:34.039
like, oh, that's cool,
I shot some stuff, or you know,

1520
01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:36.359
I ran up with this sword and
it was just this we had this

1521
01:29:36.359 --> 01:29:40.199
friendly little sword back. Well,
that thing there was some challenge to that

1522
01:29:40.359 --> 01:29:44.279
was was it was there speed though, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

1523
01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:46.279
yeah, I definitely missed some some
swings, like because they kept spawning

1524
01:29:46.319 --> 01:29:50.760
harder ones in so I can see
it ramp up. But like the precision

1525
01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:54.359
wasn't totally there. There were definitely
spots where it like it looked like I

1526
01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:56.720
should have blocked it and it kind
of went through. It wasn't perfect.

1527
01:29:56.800 --> 01:29:59.920
That's maybe my worry thing to it. The PlayStation stuff using the Move cont

1528
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:04.960
roller and a camera as opposed to
like the Vibe and the Oculus touch,

1529
01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:12.199
like those just feel like more uh
intric hit and precise instruments. Well they're

1530
01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:15.439
way newer obviously. Yeah, the
move is kind of Yeah, I did

1531
01:30:15.479 --> 01:30:18.720
a job simulator, and I had
done Vibe and the Oculus times and everything,

1532
01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:23.840
and you know, those two worked
great all the time. And job

1533
01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:27.239
simulator worked all right, Like I
mean, the Move controller still feels good.

1534
01:30:27.239 --> 01:30:30.359
It's got the triggers and everything.
Yeah, but there were several times

1535
01:30:30.399 --> 01:30:31.800
where my hands just kind of freaked
out and you know, it flicked out

1536
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:35.119
on screen, wasn't tracking right,
And it's hard to know if that's the

1537
01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:39.960
fault of like move or just you
know, maybe the libraries aren't there,

1538
01:30:40.039 --> 01:30:43.199
and then there's a zillion things that
could right right, it might be worked

1539
01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:45.520
out by the time they're done,
but yeah, yeah, yeah, I

1540
01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:46.279
still liked it a lot. But
that was one of the first things with

1541
01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:49.800
controllers that's kind of freaking Yeah,
yeah, I'd agree, like i'd used

1542
01:30:49.800 --> 01:30:54.159
the Oculus touch stuff. Obviously it's
like a whole ways ways away, but

1543
01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:57.039
like, yeah, yeah, it
felt it just felt like if I kept

1544
01:30:57.039 --> 01:30:59.640
my hands still, they probably weren't
being still, and then you never know

1545
01:30:59.720 --> 01:31:01.439
if that's yeah, just why you're
playing, or yeah, yeah, I

1546
01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:03.880
think the move is going to be
totally adequate for that stuff. Even if

1547
01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:06.960
it's not quite as new as those
newer controllers, it'll probably be fine.

1548
01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:10.680
Move was always like a nice piece
of hardware that just never knew what the

1549
01:31:10.680 --> 01:31:12.560
fuck to do. Like I also, you run into a case where,

1550
01:31:12.600 --> 01:31:15.000
like you know, you think about
some standing VR situations like that Impulse gear

1551
01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:17.359
shooter was was you know, the
move control or at the end of that

1552
01:31:17.399 --> 01:31:21.199
gun shell, and at one point
I turned around completely Yeah, so my

1553
01:31:21.239 --> 01:31:28.039
back was blocking step the camera,
the same thing to the ball on the

1554
01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:31.920
Move controller, and the aiming goes
totally south at that point. They tried.

1555
01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:34.600
It seems like it's not like they
were trying to do some guests work

1556
01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:38.880
to try to keep things in line
with some of the other inputs they get.

1557
01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:41.920
But you know, like that still
happens. And again that's not a

1558
01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:44.680
final game, so you know,
maybe there are ways to solve for even

1559
01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:49.159
those issues that people won't notice,
but like that's something that developers will have

1560
01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:51.960
to probably solve for. That's why
the highwager. So they started out like

1561
01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:54.920
one of the core tenets of this
game was you have to be able to

1562
01:31:54.920 --> 01:31:59.239
play sitting down because like the more
basic aspects of VR game design haven't been

1563
01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:01.239
figured out yet, Like you can't
like, let's not layer on too many

1564
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:04.920
variables before the stuff we have to
get right, and people have set ups

1565
01:32:04.960 --> 01:32:08.800
where they sit down in front of
a television and a PlayStation to play video

1566
01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:12.199
games. You know, that's that's
the other thing about Oculus and the Vibe

1567
01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:15.279
is you know, like setting up
your room to work with this stuff is

1568
01:32:15.319 --> 01:32:17.840
still a real problem that people are
going to run into. You know,

1569
01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:21.840
this is one of the first shows
I've been to where on screen you weren't

1570
01:32:21.880 --> 01:32:26.960
getting the you know two whatever that
is a feature of the Morpheus dev kit.

1571
01:32:27.039 --> 01:32:28.720
Okay, that's what I was wondering. Yeah, it's first time i've

1572
01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:30.880
seen that when. That's really cool
because then you could be playing in a

1573
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:32.560
room and people could watch you and
not have it. It's just someone who

1574
01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:36.880
maybe wants to put video of these
games someday. It's very exciting. Yeah,

1575
01:32:38.039 --> 01:32:39.920
I mean, I think that'll that'll
be solved for all of them.

1576
01:32:40.079 --> 01:32:42.239
You're probably right, not that hard
for them to do. I don't think.

1577
01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:47.159
But uh, you guys feel pretty
bullish then about this VR stuff coming

1578
01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:50.079
out of here. Like I was, I was more impressed with with rezin

1579
01:32:50.119 --> 01:32:53.720
Gold in particular than I expected it
to be. I thought, I thought

1580
01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:56.880
res was incredible, and like I
played Reds back when it came out,

1581
01:32:56.960 --> 01:33:00.079
and I actually the lack of gameplay
depth didn't really I didn't. It didn't

1582
01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:02.199
grab me the way that other people
were, you know, kind of hyping

1583
01:33:02.239 --> 01:33:04.520
it up and loving it. And
then I played it again when it came

1584
01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:08.079
out on three sixty on x LA
and it's like, yeah, okay,

1585
01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:10.960
I still think this looks and sounds
really cool, but I didn't really have

1586
01:33:11.039 --> 01:33:14.239
much fun playing it. I did
all of those complaints or anything like I

1587
01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:16.079
know it's not any deeper because you
have a headset on, but it's a

1588
01:33:16.079 --> 01:33:19.840
lot more fun. It's fucking awesome, So I'm one hundred percent on board

1589
01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:21.199
with it here. Of course,
you know, it's still not going to

1590
01:33:21.239 --> 01:33:24.760
have any more replay values than it
didn't know, I don't know. It's

1591
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:27.680
a show it's a show piece,
but not They are looking to develop new

1592
01:33:27.680 --> 01:33:30.159
content as well. Yeah that helps. Without knowing what that is, it's

1593
01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:33.239
kind of maybe hard to say,
but yes, it's you know, I

1594
01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:35.800
like the lost area. Sure,
it's one of my favorite levels. I

1595
01:33:35.800 --> 01:33:40.600
guess they're dressing it up a lot. It saw. Shane Bettenhausen was tweeting,

1596
01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:45.039
like comparison photos of texture maps earlier, it's super cleaned up and it

1597
01:33:45.079 --> 01:33:46.760
looks very sharp. Yeah, you
know, yeah, obviously it's nice.

1598
01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:49.399
It's nice that anybody will be able
to play it, even if they don't

1599
01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:54.960
have the stuff. I'll say that
the PlayStation VR, I really liked the

1600
01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:59.119
little buttons. It's very easy to
make it snug hunt. Ye, I've

1601
01:33:59.119 --> 01:34:00.760
gotten at the very bad that you
used to pull out the back to fit

1602
01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:04.840
on your head, and then there's
a button under the goggles to pull in

1603
01:34:04.880 --> 01:34:08.760
and out to where you find focus, and there's also a tightening dial on

1604
01:34:08.800 --> 01:34:12.000
the back further kind of type it
was. It's a very comfortable head.

1605
01:34:12.039 --> 01:34:16.399
It was relatively easy to get the
optics centered so they weren't blurry and super

1606
01:34:16.479 --> 01:34:20.560
lightweight like down my head. It's
it's wired up as well, so it

1607
01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:25.720
doesn't have to have any of that
sort of stuff extra It's oculus kit might

1608
01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:30.039
still be more a little more comfortable. Just I haven't I haven't touched one

1609
01:34:30.039 --> 01:34:32.039
of those sins three, but I
remember putting that thing on and going like

1610
01:34:32.079 --> 01:34:35.079
man, it's like I'm wearing a
very comfy hat. This is great.

1611
01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:39.159
Wow. I also like the lights
on the front. I just think it

1612
01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:42.239
looks cool. Yeah, well that's
that's for tracking. Also the camera,

1613
01:34:42.560 --> 01:34:45.479
Yeah, for the tracking. But
it sounds like those final models that we

1614
01:34:45.479 --> 01:34:48.199
were playing at the show. And
yeah, I think it looks and feels

1615
01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:50.600
really really awesome. Yeah, I
would like to own one of those.

1616
01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:53.920
Yes, I'm not, I'm not
sure. I mean, and I think

1617
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:58.319
you know, Sony's doing the thing
where and a lot of these games will

1618
01:34:58.319 --> 01:35:00.920
appear on other platforms, right,
you know, like it's not necessarily that

1619
01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:05.399
they're all exclusive or but like Sony
is at least putting it together the story

1620
01:35:05.520 --> 01:35:10.840
of like, there are games here, this is a gaming platform. We

1621
01:35:10.880 --> 01:35:14.800
are producing games for this thing.
It's not it's not just tech demos,

1622
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:16.399
and you go like, oh,
I guess I could see a game around

1623
01:35:16.399 --> 01:35:18.079
some of this stuff, like you're
starting to see, you know, and

1624
01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:21.680
naturally, as we're getting closer a
ship, there are more and more things

1625
01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:24.479
you look at and go like,
this is a thing I could play,

1626
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:26.640
This is the thing I would like
to play, this is the thing I

1627
01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:29.960
intend to play. That's what's exciting
for me right now is that we're now

1628
01:35:29.960 --> 01:35:32.279
at the stage where I can't name
every game that's coming out on that right

1629
01:35:32.479 --> 01:35:34.960
It's not like, oh, here
are the four games that and even if

1630
01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:38.680
it launched, is only like you
know five, Or when you're going to

1631
01:35:38.760 --> 01:35:42.680
spend that much money on a piece
of hardware, you need the safety blanket

1632
01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:45.600
of having, you know, at
least a large amount of games coming out,

1633
01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:47.960
even if they're not massive games,
just the amount of them. And

1634
01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:51.399
then like seeing games like you know, just seeing Drive Club there with a

1635
01:35:51.399 --> 01:35:55.319
bit of R and it's just knowing
that other companies are maybe going to be

1636
01:35:55.399 --> 01:35:58.399
including a little bit sort of gives
me the confidence to be like, yeah,

1637
01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:00.359
I'll probably be an early adopter.
Here's here's the big question for me,

1638
01:36:00.479 --> 01:36:04.399
Like this is like question for this
room as much as for anybody,

1639
01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:08.640
Like are you gonna buy more than
one headset? Yeah? Yeah? Really?

1640
01:36:08.720 --> 01:36:12.680
Yeah? That bought in. Yeah, I think I'll need to you

1641
01:36:12.720 --> 01:36:15.239
know, it's I think I need
to know, you know, And and

1642
01:36:15.319 --> 01:36:17.319
the only way to really do that
is to you know. And it remains

1643
01:36:17.319 --> 01:36:19.439
to be seen, like how it's
going to work on the PC, like

1644
01:36:20.479 --> 01:36:25.880
how how many games will end up
being Oculous exclusive, like you know,

1645
01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:29.880
because they announced that Rockman VR thing, I think that was the Game Awards,

1646
01:36:30.399 --> 01:36:32.760
right, yes, uh? And
that is it looks like it's being

1647
01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:36.560
published by Oculus Studio, So well
that's there, that's their play. Their

1648
01:36:36.640 --> 01:36:40.960
Oculus is going after they have a
whole publishing division, like they you know,

1649
01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:44.479
they want games that are only available
on their gear, right uh.

1650
01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:46.680
And whereas it sounds like Valve is
being a little more free wheeling about that

1651
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:49.079
stuff, right, I mean,
Valve is approaching it with like I don't

1652
01:36:49.079 --> 01:36:51.680
know, whatever we'll see from the
market forms, I don't know. Well,

1653
01:36:51.720 --> 01:36:55.720
I mean the team machines. It's
going great. They probably know like

1654
01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:59.159
it at the stage, like it's
important for the basics to get hammered out,

1655
01:36:59.239 --> 01:37:00.760
right, So like the like tech
and knowledge that shared, the better

1656
01:37:00.800 --> 01:37:04.359
it is for everybody. Yeah,
definitely, And and and you know,

1657
01:37:04.760 --> 01:37:09.760
can those games be hacked and ported
to other VR headsets? Like you know,

1658
01:37:09.800 --> 01:37:14.000
how how does that stuff work?
Right? Uh? It seems like

1659
01:37:14.039 --> 01:37:16.159
those questions have to be as it
seems like like the PlayStation heads so I

1660
01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:19.760
keep calling wanting to call it the
Morpheus, but like and the PSVR and

1661
01:37:19.920 --> 01:37:25.239
one of the PC headsets seems like
that. Yeah, the motion anybody should

1662
01:37:25.279 --> 01:37:28.880
do. I'm definitely leaning Oculus like
right now in terms of just like quality,

1663
01:37:28.960 --> 01:37:32.199
like having tried different and you know, none of it's quite final,

1664
01:37:32.359 --> 01:37:35.199
but just having tried Oculus, having
tried the Vibe, Like, I don't

1665
01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:39.880
like the Vibe controllers. I don't
like their wands. I think they feel

1666
01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:43.399
chancy, they feel fucked up like
a move controller does. And in the

1667
01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:45.880
same way compared to like Oculus touch
you, I think you used the same

1668
01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:50.119
controllers I did, right, Yeah, those were super jacky. Yeah if

1669
01:37:50.159 --> 01:37:54.199
they came out on the same I
mean the Vibe in multiple Okay, so

1670
01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:57.319
not just well jenky in the sense
that those had been beaten the hell up,

1671
01:37:57.520 --> 01:37:59.239
is what I mean. If they
came out on the same day,

1672
01:37:59.279 --> 01:38:01.119
I would probably just get Oculus.
But considering it sounds like Vibe is going

1673
01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:03.319
to come out first, it's like, well, I'm looking at this future

1674
01:38:03.359 --> 01:38:08.800
where I might have three VR headsets. That's what I mean. If one

1675
01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:11.840
is out, that's good. Like
the Vibe is really good, and it's

1676
01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:14.840
there's no release date or anything in
sight for Oculist, I'm gonna buy.

1677
01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:17.319
I also have to really rethink,
you know, things about positioning in the

1678
01:38:17.359 --> 01:38:21.319
home and stuff, because right now
I have a computer in the bedroom and

1679
01:38:21.319 --> 01:38:24.960
there's not enough floor space to do
any of that stuff. And I've got

1680
01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:30.119
another room that would potentially have more
floor space but is still not as big

1681
01:38:30.159 --> 01:38:34.800
as most of the areas where we've
done these demos for for the Vibe specifically.

1682
01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:38.199
Yeah, yeah, I want to
say, when I used the Vibe

1683
01:38:38.199 --> 01:38:41.359
a couple of weeks ago, I
was I would say, maybe five by

1684
01:38:41.359 --> 01:38:44.279
five, six by six something like
that. Yeah, clear floor space,

1685
01:38:44.279 --> 01:38:47.039
and that was nowhere near enough exactly. And you know, like the stuff

1686
01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:49.960
that they're showing for PlayStation VR,
it has been very much like stand here,

1687
01:38:50.239 --> 01:38:51.880
you know, you can move around
a little bit and it'll do something,

1688
01:38:51.920 --> 01:38:56.479
but it's not necessarily walk around room
and interact. And and they walk

1689
01:38:56.520 --> 01:38:59.680
around room and interact. Was like
the bulk of the Vibe demos yea,

1690
01:39:00.039 --> 01:39:02.560
and those I thought all those were
pretty bad, like the portal demo,

1691
01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:06.439
the Secret Shop demo, stuff where
it's just like okay, like you're okay,

1692
01:39:06.439 --> 01:39:10.399
I get it, Like you've got
this box metaphor that like literally when

1693
01:39:10.399 --> 01:39:13.399
I walk up against the edge of
the sensors, you're drawing fake tron lines

1694
01:39:13.439 --> 01:39:17.439
in to remind me that I'm near
the edge of this virtual box. And

1695
01:39:17.479 --> 01:39:21.960
then like all the experiences seem built
with that same metaphor in mind, or

1696
01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:24.720
a lot of them do. I
mean, you know, they're party,

1697
01:39:24.760 --> 01:39:28.119
you know they're gonna do what they're
gonna do. But I just don't think

1698
01:39:28.159 --> 01:39:30.359
that's a fun like that metaphor for
movement or for like you know, warping

1699
01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:35.159
that box around a larger environment.
That doesn't sound fun to me. It

1700
01:39:35.239 --> 01:39:39.560
just it seems like something that is
like a couple more iterations down the road

1701
01:39:39.720 --> 01:39:42.079
ye to me. Yeah, the
freedom to get up and move around,

1702
01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:44.600
like, you know, you're still
tethered to a computer. Ultimately, they've

1703
01:39:44.600 --> 01:39:46.640
got a big cable coming out ahead
no matter what you're doing. There's also

1704
01:39:46.680 --> 01:39:48.800
the floor space record. Like it
just seems like the freedom to get up

1705
01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:54.680
and walk around is something that you
would address after like way more basic concerns

1706
01:39:54.680 --> 01:39:56.840
are figured out, you know,
right in terms of game design and stuff.

1707
01:39:56.880 --> 01:39:59.119
But it seems like they're trying to
go for it in some cases,

1708
01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:00.079
and that just seems like a weird
thing, you know. That seems like

1709
01:40:00.119 --> 01:40:02.920
sort of thing where it's like,
well, you know, if if this

1710
01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:06.520
stuff takes off in a huge way
and people start really going down that rabbit

1711
01:40:06.560 --> 01:40:12.439
hole, then you start revisiting the
multidirectional treadmill concepts and you know, these

1712
01:40:12.439 --> 01:40:16.479
the walk in place type stuff that'll
let you do those things. That feels

1713
01:40:16.520 --> 01:40:19.880
like that'll be the solution to that, but also probably crazy expensive, and

1714
01:40:20.479 --> 01:40:25.000
VR is already going to be crazy
expensive, and this thing it has to

1715
01:40:25.039 --> 01:40:30.920
be like drug levels of fucking insane
to inspire people to spend that kind of

1716
01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:33.920
money, you know, And I
guess maybe that's ends up being another point.

1717
01:40:33.960 --> 01:40:36.359
And like, like I said,
it feels like most of the PlayStation

1718
01:40:36.479 --> 01:40:41.039
VR stuff has been very much like, hey, sit here or stand up

1719
01:40:41.039 --> 01:40:45.039
and look around, but don't really
don't really walk, and I don't mind

1720
01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:47.520
doing movement with a with a sub
controller or like a you know, nunchuck

1721
01:40:47.600 --> 01:40:51.720
style thing like the analog stick for
movement has been fine, Like that's no

1722
01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:57.119
better or worse or I think it's
better, but you know, it's definitely

1723
01:40:57.159 --> 01:41:01.119
not worse than you know, warping
around an environment in a crazy virtual box

1724
01:41:01.159 --> 01:41:05.840
like that just seems weird. But
imagine imagine a game like Just Cause three

1725
01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:10.279
where you don't walk but you use
gameplay mechanics to get around the world.

1726
01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:14.840
That's like an experience. Maybe they
just change the games so that it doesn't

1727
01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:18.520
include just that version of what you
know, Yeah, you're expanding around the

1728
01:41:18.560 --> 01:41:21.199
space, but you're never actually moving
more than or the games have to just

1729
01:41:21.239 --> 01:41:26.199
be you know, limited in scope
in a way to work with the realities

1730
01:41:26.239 --> 01:41:29.359
of people's homes and the realities of
the limitations of the gear you know,

1731
01:41:29.520 --> 01:41:32.439
I got, I don't know.
Yeah, that Eagle Flight thing seems like

1732
01:41:32.479 --> 01:41:36.399
it'd be something along those lines,
which one was that the sub saw thing

1733
01:41:36.439 --> 01:41:40.640
that they stopped just short of putting
the Assassin's creed branding on. Alright,

1734
01:41:40.880 --> 01:41:45.079
it's like a multiplayer eagle flying game
and for PlayStation VR and PC, you're

1735
01:41:45.119 --> 01:41:46.960
flying over this like kind of classical
looking European city. Wow. Do you

1736
01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:50.680
scream every time you see somebody jump
into a pile of straw? Pretty much?

1737
01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:54.800
Right? Yeah? Basically slim me
up hopefully. Yeah? Did the

1738
01:41:54.880 --> 01:41:57.279
Yeah? Did they say what that
is? It's a game? Like what

1739
01:41:57.359 --> 01:41:59.880
the game? What? Yeah?
But then lie, okay, okay,

1740
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:02.479
I don't know Desmonds now, but
it works. That'll that'll come to five

1741
01:42:02.520 --> 01:42:06.920
innoculusystation vry. I've started off topped
at all Humans and now you're going back

1742
01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:12.840
to prehistory or early history. This
eagle is a templar. Yeah, this

1743
01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:19.560
eagle name band long band names are
super in right now. Uh, there's

1744
01:42:19.560 --> 01:42:26.359
a little bit of other news out
of PlayStation Experience. The biggest news Sparrow

1745
01:42:26.479 --> 01:42:30.359
racism Destiny. Yeah, anybody that's
out that's out today, three weeks.

1746
01:42:30.359 --> 01:42:33.159
I'm gonna play that for three weeks. I also goes away because it was

1747
01:42:33.319 --> 01:42:36.279
so much content in that game that
they can't afford to have something like that.

1748
01:42:36.399 --> 01:42:39.520
Yeah, I don't I don't know
how I feel about it being so

1749
01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:43.239
limited in time. That's a bummer, uh, because you know it'll have

1750
01:42:43.319 --> 01:42:45.520
geared un lock and stuff. So
I looked away from the screen for a

1751
01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:49.840
while and then looked back and saw
that, and for a split second I

1752
01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:54.159
was like, oh, are they
making another way? And then realize what

1753
01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:56.840
it was. Fuck man. Credit
to Destiny for that. It could even

1754
01:42:56.880 --> 01:42:58.600
make you think that for a second. I guess, well it was the

1755
01:42:58.680 --> 01:43:00.279
music that let me down. It's
like, oh no, this is Destiny

1756
01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:04.239
music is the future sound of London
exactly. I like they we're kind of

1757
01:43:04.279 --> 01:43:06.760
leaning into the whole thing. And
though you know there's like racing pennance and

1758
01:43:08.600 --> 01:43:12.319
team logos and stuff. You know, can you swing a chain and hit

1759
01:43:12.439 --> 01:43:15.720
the Irish cop who's chasing you beside
you? Yes? Left and right?

1760
01:43:15.880 --> 01:43:21.119
No? Yeah? Oh VR road
rash would be awesome. Yeah, don't

1761
01:43:21.119 --> 01:43:25.039
have to move for that at all. God, I don't know remember that

1762
01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:29.800
road Rash clone that came out for
PC, oh just like six months ago

1763
01:43:29.880 --> 01:43:34.319
or something calling right Road Retribution road
road rich. Yeah, it sounds about

1764
01:43:34.359 --> 01:43:38.880
right right to retributions different thing.
Yeah, but yeah, picture you looked

1765
01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:41.199
to your left and just yes,
swing a chain. That'd be fucking us

1766
01:43:41.399 --> 01:43:44.279
in the face. Bat yeah,
oh god, I want that. Just

1767
01:43:44.439 --> 01:43:46.239
the hills in the distance, up
and down, up and down. Oh

1768
01:43:46.359 --> 01:43:49.640
man, there you go. I
guess the last thing I'll mention is that

1769
01:43:49.640 --> 01:43:54.399
they announced the new Nino Cooney.
Say that five times fast, yeah,

1770
01:43:56.199 --> 01:44:00.159
ann man, A lot of excitement
for Nino Cooney. This root where's the

1771
01:44:00.199 --> 01:44:04.960
Welsh guy supply in the great I
was very upset that I didn't see any

1772
01:44:04.960 --> 01:44:08.479
mister Drippy in that trailer, and
then somebody tweeted at me that he is

1773
01:44:08.520 --> 01:44:13.680
in some like leaked artwork that came
out, So I will play that Nino

1774
01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:17.880
Tuny good stuff. Thanks for being
here, Danny. I couldn't do with

1775
01:44:17.960 --> 01:44:23.039
that. You uh, she hasn't
joined the event. I mean it was

1776
01:44:23.199 --> 01:44:26.359
it was fine. It was I
like the fact that it was an event

1777
01:44:26.520 --> 01:44:30.319
where it had like super wide like
concourses and stuff so you could walk like

1778
01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:31.279
there were a lot of people there. But I'm just so used to having

1779
01:44:31.319 --> 01:44:34.199
a like shoulder your way through packs
or tgs or whatever, and then this

1780
01:44:34.319 --> 01:44:36.479
it's like, oh, this is
nice. And the area developers that were

1781
01:44:36.520 --> 01:44:40.199
at the outer edges of both of
the floors. Yeah, definitely got a

1782
01:44:40.239 --> 01:44:44.439
lot more crowded through there. Right, it was like thoroughfare, just like

1783
01:44:44.600 --> 01:44:46.720
walk past Battlefront very easily. But
then you get to wear there are games

1784
01:44:46.720 --> 01:44:49.439
You're like, oh shit, yeah, yeah, I got it seemed like

1785
01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:53.840
people were happy to be there.
It's you know, there was a ton

1786
01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:57.119
of games there. Yeah, a
lot of stuff. Yeah, it seems

1787
01:44:57.199 --> 01:45:00.159
it seemed like an alright thing I
got. I got embarrassingly into the they're

1788
01:45:00.239 --> 01:45:03.800
dumb convention app achievement system. Of
course you did walking around scanning real world

1789
01:45:03.880 --> 01:45:06.800
trophies, man, and there was
there was an RFID chip in your badge,

1790
01:45:06.840 --> 01:45:11.239
which is crazy that like, because
that thing just felt like a thin

1791
01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:14.960
layer of plastic. I realize how
small those things have gotten. But you

1792
01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:18.680
could go around scanning your badge at
every game station to get fucking trophies in

1793
01:45:18.720 --> 01:45:24.199
their achievement or in their and eventually
that's how they gated some access to like

1794
01:45:24.319 --> 01:45:27.479
free game codes. That's that's where
it kind of broke down because a lot

1795
01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:30.560
of that stuff worked very poorly,
like like they were supposed to give out

1796
01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:32.199
like nuclear Throne and bit trip to
all attendees, Like none of that ever

1797
01:45:32.279 --> 01:45:35.279
lit up in my app, like
it's still I did check in at one

1798
01:45:35.319 --> 01:45:40.359
of the stations, but it never
Some of it worked fine, like like

1799
01:45:40.439 --> 01:45:43.199
I wanted to check out that that
Dead Star game and they were getting up

1800
01:45:43.199 --> 01:45:45.600
beta access for that, so I
like literally rolled by their swipe my badge,

1801
01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:47.399
and like five minutes later in the
app it was like, here's a

1802
01:45:47.439 --> 01:45:50.279
beta code for Dead Star, Like
that's fucking cool. Oh mine, is

1803
01:45:50.319 --> 01:45:54.319
that the future of advertising? But
then yes, that was the s Then

1804
01:45:54.439 --> 01:45:56.520
yeah, that was the other already
got the stuff. That was the other

1805
01:45:56.600 --> 01:45:59.239
aspect of it was like, man, I feel fucking I am just allowing

1806
01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:02.800
them to mark get to me.
Just spend five minutes in a well it's

1807
01:46:02.840 --> 01:46:08.199
far Ago and get a free movie
rent. I am walking to the advertisements

1808
01:46:08.239 --> 01:46:12.199
now like a fucking idiot. I
thought it was gonna scan the QR code

1809
01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:14.600
like an airport scanner thing, but
you have to like, yeah, press

1810
01:46:14.720 --> 01:46:16.319
flush against the thing and it turns
blue. Yeah. Do you guys play

1811
01:46:16.319 --> 01:46:19.640
the new job simulator demotal? I
looked at it a little bit. It

1812
01:46:19.680 --> 01:46:21.840
seems like it's got more stuff in
there, and then it seems like it's

1813
01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:25.119
you know, it seems like a
full game. Did you do it.

1814
01:46:25.159 --> 01:46:27.760
I played the I played it on
the vibe of not that long ago,

1815
01:46:27.800 --> 01:46:30.000
the kitchen one. So this is
more of an office thing. Did you

1816
01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:32.199
eat the rotten donuts in the trash
No? No, I did not play

1817
01:46:32.239 --> 01:46:35.079
the office things. So they bring
in donuts and stuff, and if you

1818
01:46:35.319 --> 01:46:38.000
just eat it, if you bring
it close enough to your face, and

1819
01:46:38.039 --> 01:46:39.880
you can like make coffee and just
pour it on your face. Whatever.

1820
01:46:39.960 --> 01:46:42.079
Just awesome, super dumb stuff that
was in a lot of fun. Like

1821
01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:44.880
your boss comes around, he's just
like a computer with glasses and a tie,

1822
01:46:44.880 --> 01:46:45.960
and I ripped his glasses off his
face and threw it out a screen.

1823
01:46:46.239 --> 01:46:49.560
Perfect. But at one point I
ate all the normal donuts and I

1824
01:46:49.640 --> 01:46:53.439
looked down at the trash can underneath
my computer and they're a bunch of rotten

1825
01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:56.359
donuts and there were like gross green
stuff on it. I ate one and

1826
01:46:56.439 --> 01:47:00.920
I started puking in the game,
which puking in VR in first it's hilarious.

1827
01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:04.199
I puked all over a printer and
so it kept eating rotten tomatoes and

1828
01:47:04.279 --> 01:47:08.239
just puking on other computers and stuff. It was just awesome. Did you

1829
01:47:08.359 --> 01:47:10.840
use the photocopy or on that printer? No? I heard you could like

1830
01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:13.800
put a donut on there and press
the button and it just copies the actual

1831
01:47:13.880 --> 01:47:16.000
three D donut. I'd like fucking
twelve donuts by Ina that demo. I

1832
01:47:16.039 --> 01:47:19.840
just kept turning over and hitting copy
every two seconds, just copy more donuts.

1833
01:47:20.560 --> 01:47:23.640
It's just so much fun to do
dumb shit. And they're like open

1834
01:47:23.720 --> 01:47:26.199
up a filing cabinet and just start
throwing papers everywhere, Like I don't know

1835
01:47:26.199 --> 01:47:28.840
why. It's that fun, Throwing
coffee mugs across all the cubicles. The

1836
01:47:28.960 --> 01:47:30.199
kitchen one was was fun in the
same way. Yeah, like you know

1837
01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:32.399
you can you can process the orders
and you're like, oh, I'm gonna

1838
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:34.000
make a sandwich, i'mnna do this, or just like fuck it, I'm

1839
01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:39.279
gonna start throwing stuff everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, they explained what the concept

1840
01:47:39.439 --> 01:47:42.520
was too. It's like Job Simulator
twenty fifty. It's like humans are gone

1841
01:47:42.640 --> 01:47:45.319
or something in nearer robot and it's
almost like a museum exhibit, like,

1842
01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:46.239
oh, this is what humans used
to do at the office, This is

1843
01:47:46.279 --> 01:47:48.279
a human in the kitchen. This
is what it was like. But it's

1844
01:47:48.319 --> 01:47:51.039
just the most boiled down stupid like
your keyboard on your computer. I was

1845
01:47:51.039 --> 01:47:55.520
like two buttons on it, but
with a working mouse at zero and one.

1846
01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:57.840
Yeah, yeah, and you have
to like do your password and you've

1847
01:47:57.840 --> 01:48:00.439
got to stick you know this at
one oh one and gone it in Like

1848
01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:03.159
it's so dumb and fun. I
had a great time with that, mainly

1849
01:48:03.199 --> 01:48:10.399
people on that prayer. That sounds
great. Outside of December events, anybody's

1850
01:48:10.520 --> 01:48:14.760
been playing anything they want to expound
upon. I just caused three games,

1851
01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:18.279
all right, yeah yeah, I
keep going back to it, and that

1852
01:48:18.359 --> 01:48:25.359
game really bums me out, man, Why because they hid all the cool

1853
01:48:25.399 --> 01:48:29.199
stuff behind a bunch of dumb challenges. Yes, that's just like you want

1854
01:48:29.199 --> 01:48:31.560
to fly helicopters through some rings,
like fucking no, do you want to

1855
01:48:31.600 --> 01:48:35.479
do it? Absolutely not? Eight
more times after that? I want to

1856
01:48:35.600 --> 01:48:39.319
drive through thirty rings to get night
No, I do not. Do you

1857
01:48:39.359 --> 01:48:43.159
want an ab sale down two thirty
or fly through wingsuit Dan two, I

1858
01:48:43.199 --> 01:48:45.920
don't even know. I don't want
to play Pilot Wings and just cause.

1859
01:48:45.199 --> 01:48:48.880
I think the reason I didn't I
want to play fucking destroy everything fuck you

1860
01:48:49.199 --> 01:48:54.560
in just cause and even the story
missions aren't enough of that. Yeah,

1861
01:48:54.680 --> 01:48:57.319
I think the reason they didn't bother
me that much is that none of them

1862
01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:00.199
are that long. I think there's
only one driving one where it's like two

1863
01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:02.279
laps or whatever, even that's like
three minutes or something. I can't I

1864
01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:05.359
can't accept that as an excuse though, Yeah, I mean they're not great.

1865
01:49:05.399 --> 01:49:08.800
It's like there are tools that they
give you in that game that are

1866
01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:12.359
just a great are great fun to
use, tethering things to other things,

1867
01:49:12.479 --> 01:49:15.800
and you know, rocket launchers and
the bombs and all that other stuff,

1868
01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:20.000
but then you want more, and
the verge is to get more. Are

1869
01:49:20.479 --> 01:49:24.720
like some of the worst, you
know, some of the worst types.

1870
01:49:25.520 --> 01:49:28.479
The execution is fine, but it's
just like some of the worst types of

1871
01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:31.159
open world game side missions of just
like here's this totally stakes free thing that

1872
01:49:31.239 --> 01:49:34.279
you actually wait, no, the
stakes are higher than you thought they were

1873
01:49:34.359 --> 01:49:38.640
because if you don't fucking bust ass
through this thing, you're not gonna get

1874
01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:40.960
all five gears and then haha,
you get to do the whole thing again.

1875
01:49:41.560 --> 01:49:44.199
It's not fun. I had to
force myself to get really good at

1876
01:49:44.239 --> 01:49:46.800
the wingsuit challenges because I want better
wingsuit control and you have to right or

1877
01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:48.319
you just don't get it, you
know. Like, yeah, like the

1878
01:49:48.520 --> 01:49:50.439
versions of some of the tools they
give you up front, Like, I

1879
01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:56.960
feel like the tethers are way too
weak early on to slam together the objects

1880
01:49:57.000 --> 01:49:59.159
that you want to slam together right
off the bat. So at the same

1881
01:49:59.159 --> 01:50:00.600
time, if they started you with
everything, where would you go and what

1882
01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:03.079
would you do? Yeah, so
you know, I don't It's like one

1883
01:50:03.079 --> 01:50:05.600
of the things where it's like I
don't necessarily want a sandbox game either,

1884
01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:10.680
right, I want a game that's
built to properly exploit well, gating the

1885
01:50:10.720 --> 01:50:14.039
progression is fine, but like gate
it with something more interesting, right than

1886
01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:16.880
like that your third tier like challenge. Yeah, that is if the challenges

1887
01:50:16.960 --> 01:50:20.840
were just better at exploiting the tool
set and just built in a way that

1888
01:50:21.199 --> 01:50:26.720
I have no I spent actually a
good solid chunk of time thinking about like,

1889
01:50:26.840 --> 01:50:30.239
okay, let's thought experiment here.
If I was the fucking guy I'm

1890
01:50:30.279 --> 01:50:33.000
in charge of designing this stuff over
and I've came up with jack fucking shit.

1891
01:50:33.520 --> 01:50:36.520
So I don't have the answer.
But it's just one of the things

1892
01:50:36.520 --> 01:50:41.720
where it's like, you know,
there's there's a joy to that game that

1893
01:50:41.800 --> 01:50:45.079
they don't tap into, Like you
have to find it yourself. The game's

1894
01:50:45.199 --> 01:50:49.159
missions and the games structure does not
exploit the inherent joy of that game.

1895
01:50:49.239 --> 01:50:53.640
Well enough, Ye, the tools
are there and they work when you have

1896
01:50:53.720 --> 01:50:56.680
a dumb idea, totally. Yeah, but it's like, but it's only

1897
01:50:56.720 --> 01:51:00.560
good for dumb ideas. It's not
always good for like completing the tasks.

1898
01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:02.760
Yeah, most of my phone was
just like sitting at an intersection doing dumb

1899
01:51:02.760 --> 01:51:05.359
ship the cards that were passing by. Like, I like that more than

1900
01:51:05.479 --> 01:51:09.680
like most story missions. Right,
let's be Rob Handlery over a game spot.

1901
01:51:09.760 --> 01:51:12.199
I spent like seven hours of that
game he's played. I think he

1902
01:51:12.279 --> 01:51:15.279
did like two Conbaan missions and then
spent the rest of it doing that yeah,

1903
01:51:15.279 --> 01:51:18.479
and was loving it. Yeah.
I downloaded a cheat engine script at

1904
01:51:18.520 --> 01:51:23.479
one point, and that was fun
because it was like infinite rockets, no

1905
01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:25.399
reload. I'm like, okay,
well, great, I can keep shooting.

1906
01:51:26.800 --> 01:51:30.279
But the downside of that is like, so I guess I could just

1907
01:51:30.319 --> 01:51:32.039
disconnect from the internet or something,
but that's that's a long way to go.

1908
01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:35.439
It's one of those things where it'll
set your timer to zero and lock

1909
01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:39.199
it there so I can all these
races. I could just do them once

1910
01:51:39.239 --> 01:51:42.880
and get five gears and all this
other stuff and still see the progression in

1911
01:51:42.960 --> 01:51:45.960
a natural fashion without having to be
you know, good at their dumb challenges.

1912
01:51:45.800 --> 01:51:48.520
But it would then post all that
to a leaderboard, and I thought

1913
01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:53.039
like that that's a shitty thing to
do. And also like, I don't

1914
01:51:53.079 --> 01:51:55.159
know if there's any I don't think
that. I don't think you would get

1915
01:51:55.199 --> 01:51:58.239
a vac band because I don't think
the game is protected by Valve Saint cheat

1916
01:51:58.279 --> 01:52:01.119
stuff, which is a great Auntie
cheat client. Yeah, but you know,

1917
01:52:01.279 --> 01:52:06.000
but they might ban me from online
connections and just costs or I don't

1918
01:52:06.000 --> 01:52:10.000
I don't know what. I don't
know what the potential fall out of that

1919
01:52:10.079 --> 01:52:13.960
situation is. So it's like,
maybe I'll just unplugged from the internet if

1920
01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:17.760
I'm gonna play anymore of it that
way. Yeah, I don't know,

1921
01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:21.600
but you're you're still liking it.
I haven't played enough to say to what

1922
01:52:21.720 --> 01:52:25.760
you were saying hasn't applied to me
yet, So I think I'm just getting

1923
01:52:25.800 --> 01:52:28.119
into that now. It's done maybe
like four or five of us challenges,

1924
01:52:28.119 --> 01:52:30.399
and it's like, yeah, yeah, I might just dive into the cheats

1925
01:52:30.399 --> 01:52:33.159
as well. Actually it sounds pretty
good. It's super fun. Yeah,

1926
01:52:33.159 --> 01:52:35.520
there's a lot of fun. One
of the cheats is just unlock all the

1927
01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:38.880
mods, and then at that point
it's just like, well, here's everything.

1928
01:52:38.960 --> 01:52:41.359
Why are you even playing any of
these challenges or what. At that

1929
01:52:41.439 --> 01:52:44.000
point it became like, well,
why am I even playing the game?

1930
01:52:44.079 --> 01:52:46.399
You just go liberate everything, right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, But

1931
01:52:46.479 --> 01:52:51.520
then it's I don't know, maybe
I'll just wait for a massive multiplayer to

1932
01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:56.600
come out for it, and and
that'll that's much better exploiting the sandbox.

1933
01:52:56.880 --> 01:53:00.960
There will probably be some great mods
for that game. Maybe. See anybody

1934
01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:05.720
got anything else? Went Mario Maker? Yeah, I'm I'm working on another

1935
01:53:05.760 --> 01:53:09.960
Mario Maker level. I tried a
couple of your levels, yeah this morning.

1936
01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:13.199
Actually, yeah, I really don't
like that first jump in your Turkey

1937
01:53:13.239 --> 01:53:15.199
and Stuffing level. Yeah, you're
not supposed to. It's designed to be

1938
01:53:15.359 --> 01:53:18.880
something that you don't like doing,
and it's not easy to do, and

1939
01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:23.600
there's no horseshit thing like I jumped
around for invisible blocks. There's no I

1940
01:53:23.680 --> 01:53:25.920
just had to do what you just
It looks like you had to do do

1941
01:53:26.079 --> 01:53:28.279
exactly the thing it looks like you
need to do. Not a fun jump,

1942
01:53:28.720 --> 01:53:30.840
No, nope, no, it's
not a fan of that at all.

1943
01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:35.800
No. I thought about after after
watching uh Kataku's Patrick Kleppick played that

1944
01:53:35.920 --> 01:53:39.439
level for a couple of hours.
It just got me thinking, like,

1945
01:53:39.479 --> 01:53:41.880
what if I made a level that
was just thirteen of those in a row.

1946
01:53:42.399 --> 01:53:44.800
See what the clear rate is?
Your clear rate is real low on

1947
01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:47.199
that one. Yeah. Have you
done all the current event courses I have?

1948
01:53:47.439 --> 01:53:50.720
Okay, I really like that Yoshi's
awesome course. Yeah. It does

1949
01:53:50.800 --> 01:53:54.039
some really cool stuff where like you
have to make the bullet hit the Yoshi

1950
01:53:54.079 --> 01:53:57.880
and he runs a crust. Yeah. Yeah, I think it does some

1951
01:53:57.960 --> 01:54:00.720
really clever stuff with yosh Yeah,
that's a cool thing where he's running and

1952
01:54:00.720 --> 01:54:03.319
you're running, like you're taking alternate
pathways through a level. Yeah. The

1953
01:54:03.399 --> 01:54:06.039
coolest thing about that game is like
every every level, good or bad.

1954
01:54:06.720 --> 01:54:10.520
I feel like I'm learning something about
that I might want to use in the

1955
01:54:10.600 --> 01:54:13.520
levels. Yeah, because a lot
of stuf where it's like, oh okay,

1956
01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:15.039
and we'll do that. Do you
know if there's a way to see

1957
01:54:15.079 --> 01:54:18.920
if you've played event courses? Because
I I'm looking at the list, it's

1958
01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:23.000
like I think I've played all these. Yeah, but you know it doesn't

1959
01:54:23.039 --> 01:54:25.119
say like what she gives you the
flag. Yeah, like once you get

1960
01:54:25.119 --> 01:54:27.760
the mystery mushroom thing, it doesn't
check it out for anything. But you're

1961
01:54:27.800 --> 01:54:33.279
saying that Mario maker needs better notification
tools. Maybe a couple, but yeah,

1962
01:54:33.319 --> 01:54:38.520
those event courses are awesome, and
yeah, they've started weeding out a

1963
01:54:38.600 --> 01:54:42.199
lot of the Like We've talked about
this before, but like the automatic levels

1964
01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:45.479
and stuff are becoming less voted up. And I did a sixteen Mario Challenge

1965
01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:48.600
thing this morning and the quality was
it was a lot higher than at launch.

1966
01:54:48.840 --> 01:54:51.119
Yeah, for sure, really really
cool stuff going on. And still

1967
01:54:51.159 --> 01:54:57.399
with that game. Yep, yep, video games they're back. Yeah,

1968
01:54:57.560 --> 01:55:00.760
I hope that my Dreamcast they never
left. Yeah that for a while.

1969
01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:02.399
Really, I found three Dreamcasts in
a box. I don't know why I

1970
01:55:02.479 --> 01:55:06.479
had three Dreamcasts consoles. Yeah.
I was just going through my dad's basement

1971
01:55:06.479 --> 01:55:09.680
where I left a bunch of boxes
when I moved, and I was like,

1972
01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:11.920
oh cool, my old Dreamcast.
And then I opened another box and

1973
01:55:11.920 --> 01:55:15.319
there's another Dreamcast, and then I
found a third dream That is hey,

1974
01:55:15.479 --> 01:55:19.720
there was someone who lives that life
with numerous consoles. I mean there was

1975
01:55:19.760 --> 01:55:24.159
a point where Dreamcasts, stuff of
any kind became very easy to come by.

1976
01:55:24.399 --> 01:55:27.880
Yeah remember that? Yeah? Yeah, I think I bought like eighty

1977
01:55:27.920 --> 01:55:30.000
percent of the Dreamcast games I had. I bought like at you know,

1978
01:55:30.079 --> 01:55:33.399
fire sale time for like three to
five dollars a piece. When the console

1979
01:55:33.479 --> 01:55:38.119
was dead. I still have a
brand new inbox black second Sports Dreamcast.

1980
01:55:38.479 --> 01:55:41.479
Nice. Whoa, I found a
Second Sports tank top when I was at

1981
01:55:41.520 --> 01:55:44.479
home? Nice? Yeah did you
get it out your dad? Actually no,

1982
01:55:44.520 --> 01:55:46.560
I'd think I took it home.
I started running my second Sports tech

1983
01:55:46.640 --> 01:55:51.079
ties. No, it's appropriate,
don't work tech tough, all right?

1984
01:55:51.319 --> 01:55:57.000
From video games emails, let's read
a few that were since bombcasts at joint

1985
01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:00.199
bomb dot com plus. All right, Well, I'm sorry, what us

1986
01:56:00.960 --> 01:56:04.479
somebody doesn't listen to our racing podcast. I'm sorry. I was honest.

1987
01:56:04.479 --> 01:56:06.399
I don't know what anything about cars? You are? Yeah, I know

1988
01:56:06.399 --> 01:56:10.399
all about that. Get brought on
the next yeah three months time? Wait

1989
01:56:10.399 --> 01:56:12.560
it's back. Do I have to
actually watch F one? Oh? Do

1990
01:56:12.600 --> 01:56:15.000
you know they're bringing robot races in? Yeah, okay, I'm in.

1991
01:56:15.199 --> 01:56:17.359
Yeah, so like the there's gonna
be automated cars and like as an offshoot

1992
01:56:17.399 --> 01:56:21.000
of Formula E. It's they're gonna
race them before the Formula E races next

1993
01:56:21.119 --> 01:56:24.840
year. Okay, yes, and
it's literally like AI. It's not like

1994
01:56:25.039 --> 01:56:29.039
remote control or whatever. Oh okay, so it's not like battle bots or

1995
01:56:29.359 --> 01:56:33.560
yeah, it's not battle bots.
Cars with fucking AI racers oh crazy going

1996
01:56:33.680 --> 01:56:36.680
super fast? Okay, yeah,
okay, this sounds cool. I'll probably

1997
01:56:36.720 --> 01:56:40.359
watch. Maybe there's fan boost in
that as well, like because at that

1998
01:56:40.479 --> 01:56:43.880
stage you might as well just go
like super White bad and just have boost

1999
01:56:43.920 --> 01:56:46.880
pads and like how people crash because
robots haven't been Twitch plays f one.

2000
01:56:47.199 --> 01:56:49.239
Yeah. Yeah, man. There
was a thing. There's a thing on

2001
01:56:49.279 --> 01:56:53.159
sixty minutes last night about the race
to bring self driving cars to market,

2002
01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:57.760
and Mercedes showed their concept car that
they have designed that they planned to release

2003
01:56:57.800 --> 01:57:01.239
in the year twenty thirty ju and
it is actually styled like they think cars

2004
01:57:01.279 --> 01:57:05.199
will look in twenty thirty. Concept
cars are awesome. There's so much fun

2005
01:57:05.239 --> 01:57:11.840
to look at because so many of
them are fucking weird sixth day cars.

2006
01:57:12.600 --> 01:57:15.399
This car has no windows. There
are no windows and all this you don't

2007
01:57:15.399 --> 01:57:18.520
need to see out, and all
the seats face all the crashes and you

2008
01:57:18.600 --> 01:57:26.079
have to climb out of the the
two seats face each other like one a

2009
01:57:26.079 --> 01:57:29.880
little train car and like the curved
inner surface of the car is all screens.

2010
01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:32.439
I do not like the no windows
weird. There's a reason about windows

2011
01:57:32.439 --> 01:57:36.039
and planes, Like it scares the
shit, Like, look the clouds,

2012
01:57:36.079 --> 01:57:43.039
we're gonna die. Was scared.
You need to be able to see outside.

2013
01:57:43.079 --> 01:57:45.439
Man, it's not you'll have screens
for that. Maybe just play reds.

2014
01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:49.680
Maybe just sit in the thing and
just play reds inside of the car

2015
01:57:49.720 --> 01:57:55.840
projects wearing a flashing suit. I
just wanted a sensory deprivation tank on wheels.

2016
01:57:56.920 --> 01:58:00.279
I just get out. And that's
like exactly what it was. It

2017
01:58:00.399 --> 01:58:04.479
was like kind of scary. Actually, uh, that report about self driving

2018
01:58:04.479 --> 01:58:09.720
cars was nowhere near as cool as
the report about the eighties KGB agent who

2019
01:58:09.800 --> 01:58:12.600
lived in the United States. Oh, man, dude, you gotta fucking

2020
01:58:12.640 --> 01:58:15.520
watch that report. It is so
crazy. It's got it's got dead drops,

2021
01:58:15.560 --> 01:58:19.840
it's got defecting agents. It's got
like it's got like a shadowy dude

2022
01:58:19.880 --> 01:58:24.479
showing up on a train platform and
whispering that you're going to die and walking

2023
01:58:24.520 --> 01:58:29.399
away when that happens. Just like
it's got like shortwave shortwave like information transfer.

2024
01:58:29.640 --> 01:58:31.840
Yeah, like the dude talks into
explicit detail about how he got his

2025
01:58:32.439 --> 01:58:36.640
orders from Russia by shortwave every Thursday
night at nine pm. Yeah, it

2026
01:58:36.800 --> 01:58:40.039
was. It's fucking crazy. You
have to look it up. It's really

2027
01:58:40.119 --> 01:58:43.199
cool, just like the best,
like Cold war intrigue kind of stuff.

2028
01:58:43.199 --> 01:58:45.720
Where do you watch those that was
on sixty minutes or I think they have

2029
01:58:45.720 --> 01:58:47.840
a website. All reports are up
there. Uh I should put that one

2030
01:58:47.880 --> 01:58:51.319
in the show notes because it's super
fascinating. Yep, sentiments of our competitors,

2031
01:58:51.880 --> 01:58:56.439
our competitors. No, that's that's
CBS great fighting program. Yeah yeah,

2032
01:58:58.199 --> 01:59:00.760
all right, let's read some emails, maybe watch some Star Trek.

2033
01:59:00.119 --> 01:59:04.279
Okay, I'm into that. I
like all this stuff. Velamir sends this

2034
01:59:04.359 --> 01:59:09.560
email. We had a lot of
emails because last week we took old emails,

2035
01:59:09.600 --> 01:59:11.439
so there's such a bunch of random
shit in here, such as this.

2036
01:59:13.199 --> 01:59:15.920
Jeff likes to bring up that on
Battlefield's battlelock site you can hua something

2037
01:59:16.000 --> 01:59:18.720
you did in the game. Yes, that is no longer the case.

2038
01:59:18.840 --> 01:59:23.800
The whua has been renamed to like
fuck, I just thought you'd like to

2039
01:59:23.880 --> 01:59:26.640
know that. No I did.
I did not like to know that.

2040
01:59:26.720 --> 01:59:29.840
Well, okay, you need to
know that. I who odd to know

2041
01:59:29.960 --> 01:59:32.479
that he and he ended the email
with hashtag bring back who a Yeah,

2042
01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:36.640
as long as we still have un
yeah right, what's on on the wu

2043
01:59:36.720 --> 01:59:43.000
me verse? You can the yeah
things and then you can yeah some fucking

2044
01:59:43.199 --> 01:59:47.279
you've got yeah remorse classic double speaker
there. You could never un whuah wants

2045
01:59:47.399 --> 01:59:56.600
who It's just plus yeah on your
ass. Uh, let's see. Joe

2046
01:59:56.680 --> 02:00:00.279
from Portland wrote in about the three
sixty discussion from last week two weeks ago.

2047
02:00:00.399 --> 02:00:04.600
I don't remember. Two weeks ago. I was listening to your conversation

2048
02:00:04.600 --> 02:00:08.239
about the failure rate of the Xbox
three sixty, how some of you know

2049
02:00:08.359 --> 02:00:12.520
folks who have had upwards of twelve
replacements, and how the game spat guys

2050
02:00:12.560 --> 02:00:15.439
have a huge graveyard of dead three
sixties. They actually threw those out.

2051
02:00:15.720 --> 02:00:19.159
Yeah, I was super fucking bummed. I saw Dan Mahorick walking around that

2052
02:00:19.199 --> 02:00:20.880
storage room they had him in.
I was like, what happen in three

2053
02:00:20.920 --> 02:00:24.880
sixties? Like we tossed them,
They had like twenty of them stacked up.

2054
02:00:25.039 --> 02:00:27.399
I would have at least kept the
hard drives. I would have taken

2055
02:00:27.439 --> 02:00:30.239
a sledgehammer to him or something.
Man. Yeah, dude. Yeah,

2056
02:00:30.319 --> 02:00:31.359
like take them to the rifle.
Like, think about all the things you

2057
02:00:31.399 --> 02:00:34.399
could do with a bunch of dead
three sixties, fix them, sell them.

2058
02:00:34.600 --> 02:00:36.800
Well, they were all red ring. I don't know that. I

2059
02:00:36.840 --> 02:00:41.640
mean, are they still honoring that
anyway? I'll read this email. This

2060
02:00:41.760 --> 02:00:45.000
baffled be as to how the three
sixty can be held in such high regard

2061
02:00:45.119 --> 02:00:47.399
and revered so highly when it seems
like it was almost guaranteed to be the

2062
02:00:47.479 --> 02:00:51.840
cause of headaches eventually. I get
that they ushered in several advancements and console

2063
02:00:51.880 --> 02:00:56.279
gaming, but it seems like everyone
just sits back and laughs about the huge

2064
02:00:56.319 --> 02:01:00.439
hit to their wallets. Do you
think that would pass today if the suddenly

2065
02:01:00.439 --> 02:01:04.439
started having hardware failure due to some
unforeseen factor, now that the initial couple

2066
02:01:04.560 --> 02:01:08.159
years have passed, would they be
handed they get out of jail card like

2067
02:01:08.279 --> 02:01:11.520
the three sixty. I think it
depends on what their response is and how

2068
02:01:11.640 --> 02:01:15.479
quickly they fixed those units that are
breaking and and all that sort of stuff.

2069
02:01:15.479 --> 02:01:17.680
I think Microsoft bought that get out
of jail card for a billion dollars.

2070
02:01:17.840 --> 02:01:20.520
Yeah, which is the cost of
their replacement program that they put into

2071
02:01:20.560 --> 02:01:24.760
place. Yeah. I wasn't on
that one. I've gone through nine xbox

2072
02:01:24.880 --> 02:01:27.720
three sixties geeze. Yeah, until
I got to the Slim, and then

2073
02:01:27.760 --> 02:01:30.159
once I got the Slam, everything
worked fine. Wow, that's that's a

2074
02:01:30.239 --> 02:01:32.920
lot. Yeah, that's that's that's
definitely in the upper echelon of people I

2075
02:01:32.960 --> 02:01:35.159
know going through three sixties. But
yeah, like, I don't know,

2076
02:01:35.159 --> 02:01:39.439
I don't know if people remember when
it was happening. It wasn't. It

2077
02:01:39.520 --> 02:01:42.279
wasn't nobody was giving them a pass. No, Like, there was an

2078
02:01:42.399 --> 02:01:46.720
enormous amount of anger. It was
only because they you know, they let

2079
02:01:46.760 --> 02:01:48.399
into action. I mean, you
know, it shouldn't happen in the first

2080
02:01:48.439 --> 02:01:53.079
place. But they for the most
part, I'm sure there were some people

2081
02:01:53.079 --> 02:01:55.760
out there that would say otherwise,
they would send you the coffin, you

2082
02:01:55.840 --> 02:01:58.359
send it back. Yeah, they
put the programs into place to get people

2083
02:01:58.399 --> 02:02:00.800
working three sixties and you know,
and make mistake, it's still an inconvenience

2084
02:02:00.800 --> 02:02:04.119
to have to send your consul in
replacement. But at least they were expediting

2085
02:02:04.119 --> 02:02:06.920
as much as they could. They
you know, they did their best to

2086
02:02:06.920 --> 02:02:11.399
make it right and that that clearly
went a long way in most people's opinions.

2087
02:02:13.039 --> 02:02:15.359
Uh, do you want to hear
about a guy taking street overlord.

2088
02:02:15.600 --> 02:02:19.039
Yeah. Yeah, he lives in
Groner Park. Of course he doesn't.

2089
02:02:20.479 --> 02:02:24.119
His name is Gabe, straight out
of Murder Park. Yep, he even

2090
02:02:24.199 --> 02:02:29.800
signed it Murder Park. I knew, uh, he says if. Years

2091
02:02:29.840 --> 02:02:31.800
back, I was having dinner at
a girlfriend's apartment. She had just moved

2092
02:02:31.840 --> 02:02:35.000
in and was still receiving mail from
the previous tenant. E section, what

2093
02:02:35.079 --> 02:02:39.399
are we talking? M section?
He doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't

2094
02:02:39.399 --> 02:02:44.000
say two amusing parts of the story. The previous tenant's name was Willie May's

2095
02:02:44.199 --> 02:02:50.199
Perfect, although it's spelled m a
Ze. And he likes to buy uh.

2096
02:02:50.279 --> 02:02:55.239
And he likes to buy his pornography
via mail order because I'm complicated.

2097
02:02:55.319 --> 02:02:58.880
Yo. Yep. She was receiving
large amounts of pornography, or at least

2098
02:02:58.880 --> 02:03:03.239
advertisements for pornography daily. One day, a sample package of Stree Overlord arrived.

2099
02:03:03.560 --> 02:03:06.119
There were two pills in the package. She jokingly said, I'll take

2100
02:03:06.159 --> 02:03:10.560
one if you take one, Oh
awesome. Always the best thing to do

2101
02:03:10.640 --> 02:03:14.159
with mystery pills that show up in
the mail. Absolutely, I swallowed mine

2102
02:03:14.199 --> 02:03:15.800
down quickly, assuming there would be
no effect. As a joke, I

2103
02:03:15.880 --> 02:03:18.640
said, maybe you don't take yours
in case someone needs to drive me to

2104
02:03:18.680 --> 02:03:23.119
the hospital. She didn't, and
this was wise foresight on my part.

2105
02:03:23.640 --> 02:03:27.039
Almost immediately I got cold sweats.
I recall wanting to go lay down on

2106
02:03:27.079 --> 02:03:30.319
the bed. Next thing I remember
is waking up on the floor with blood

2107
02:03:30.359 --> 02:03:33.520
streaming down my face. I had
passed out due to the medication lowering my

2108
02:03:33.560 --> 02:03:35.960
blood pressure, and it hit my
head on the side of a coffee table.

2109
02:03:36.520 --> 02:03:40.600
This was followed by the realization that
I have the most painful erection of

2110
02:03:40.640 --> 02:03:44.920
my life. It did not go
down for over twelve hours. I know

2111
02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:47.399
the warning of erections lasting longer than
five hours and medical attention, etc.

2112
02:03:47.800 --> 02:03:50.760
But I kept running through the scenario
of having to explain this to a need

2113
02:03:51.199 --> 02:03:55.279
er doctor. I won't even go
into the story of going to work the

2114
02:03:55.359 --> 02:03:59.479
next day and trying to hide my
erection slash anxiety about what permanent damage I

2115
02:03:59.560 --> 02:04:02.960
was causing. Go to the doctor, yeah, even now, even now,

2116
02:04:03.119 --> 02:04:06.319
maybe go, Yeah, what do
they do if you go into the

2117
02:04:06.359 --> 02:04:09.600
hospital with one of those super bowners, Like, what can they do to

2118
02:04:09.720 --> 02:04:14.520
take something they can give you it
helps counteract? It is probably something bloods.

2119
02:04:15.720 --> 02:04:19.039
I think that's the blood pressure thing
is exactly what was in that the

2120
02:04:19.199 --> 02:04:23.680
FDA right warning that I read last
week right. Two weeks later, I

2121
02:04:23.760 --> 02:04:26.319
was having dinner at the same girlfriends. I want a dessert and ate a

2122
02:04:26.359 --> 02:04:30.039
cookie out of the fridge. Turned
out it was an unlabeled medical marijuana cookie.

2123
02:04:30.720 --> 02:04:32.039
Not knowing what was happening to me, I thought it was dying again.

2124
02:04:32.079 --> 02:04:34.039
I won't go into what the next
day at work was like, but

2125
02:04:34.119 --> 02:04:39.119
our relationship ended shortly after that.
Yep, okay, it sounds about right.

2126
02:04:39.239 --> 02:04:43.319
Yeah, they'll take stree over lord, you might pass out and or

2127
02:04:43.439 --> 02:04:48.920
have some painful stuff going on.
Uh, let's see. John writes in

2128
02:04:49.039 --> 02:04:56.560
about Prods Anatomy as renowned video game
anthropologists, I turned to you as experts

2129
02:04:56.600 --> 02:05:00.600
for a difficult question about the prods
from the StarCraft series. The character is

2130
02:05:00.640 --> 02:05:03.039
zero. Tool often runs around topless, which reveals two things. The Protosts

2131
02:05:03.079 --> 02:05:06.720
do not have belly buttons, but
they do have nipples. My question is

2132
02:05:06.720 --> 02:05:10.399
about the nipples, specifically, why
do they have them. They don't have

2133
02:05:10.600 --> 02:05:15.319
mouths and which are with which to
suckle upon a teat Sure they could be

2134
02:05:15.479 --> 02:05:17.880
vestigial, but if they evolve past
eating mouths over and untold number of years

2135
02:05:17.960 --> 02:05:25.800
the nip should have slipped away in
the same time. Well, they're all

2136
02:05:25.880 --> 02:05:29.840
descended from the same stock, right, all the races. Yeah, but

2137
02:05:29.960 --> 02:05:31.720
also the you need something to get
pierced. I don't know if you know

2138
02:05:31.800 --> 02:05:36.680
that the protosts are giant plant people
what like they eat through photosynthesis or whatever

2139
02:05:38.760 --> 02:05:42.039
kind of Yes, I guess so, I'm pretty sure that's part of the

2140
02:05:42.079 --> 02:05:47.199
accepted lore. Wait quite as a
plant its photosynthesis, I don't think they

2141
02:05:47.239 --> 02:05:49.279
ever ate to begin with. So
yeah, I you know what. I

2142
02:05:49.359 --> 02:05:53.600
also noticed the nipples on Zero Tool. There's like one shot in a scene

2143
02:05:54.079 --> 02:05:56.239
where it's kind of hard. It's
kind of hard to miss, Like I

2144
02:05:56.279 --> 02:05:59.840
don't know if Joel Schumacher did some
guests directing in that game or what.

2145
02:06:00.239 --> 02:06:03.159
Maybe the nipples are like the final
straw, Like if you took the nipples

2146
02:06:03.159 --> 02:06:06.920
away, they just be not human
enough that people wouldn't like empathize with.

2147
02:06:08.079 --> 02:06:12.159
Is that? Is that what it
is? Gotta have dreadlocks and nipples and

2148
02:06:12.279 --> 02:06:15.640
legs by peel, I can see
that it sounds like you're placing a personal

2149
02:06:15.720 --> 02:06:21.880
ad. Must have nerve courts severed. You just send your emails if you

2150
02:06:23.000 --> 02:06:27.479
feel if you fulfill those requirements.
All t F one a giant bumps,

2151
02:06:28.720 --> 02:06:34.319
what a picture please? Nipples prominently
explayed Nobody Bums Luke from a book Overton

2152
02:06:36.439 --> 02:06:41.199
Uh says, Hey, guys love
the podcast. I was listening to an

2153
02:06:41.199 --> 02:06:44.840
old episode from twenty thirteen where you
discussed into Noo dropping their E three press

2154
02:06:44.880 --> 02:06:47.479
conference. You all seem to agree
that it made sense for Nintendo because A

2155
02:06:47.600 --> 02:06:53.119
they were transitioning too directs and B
didn't have new hardware to promote to mainstream

2156
02:06:53.119 --> 02:06:56.760
audiences. The new hardware stuff got
me wondering about next year. With all

2157
02:06:56.800 --> 02:06:59.800
the new rumors about NX shipping sooner
than expected. Do you think Nintoo could

2158
02:06:59.800 --> 02:07:02.000
we're turn to the E three stage
in twenty sixteen. They could, but

2159
02:07:02.000 --> 02:07:04.800
I don't think they need to.
I think they could always have an event

2160
02:07:05.000 --> 02:07:09.840
or something timed to just after their
press conference or whatever, or just before

2161
02:07:09.960 --> 02:07:14.560
or whatever they pre brief the larger
outlets on what's going to be in their

2162
02:07:14.640 --> 02:07:17.439
video. Yeah, it does not
seem like it almost does seem a little

2163
02:07:17.439 --> 02:07:20.520
anti climactic to me, though,
to debut a new fricking console in like

2164
02:07:20.600 --> 02:07:26.399
a prerecorded video stream. Who cares
if you're sitting at home watching said stream.

2165
02:07:26.479 --> 02:07:29.319
Like the difference is actually, I
guess you're right. The people who

2166
02:07:29.359 --> 02:07:31.079
they are selling nothing to aren't the
people who are going to think it's anti

2167
02:07:31.119 --> 02:07:33.520
climat. Yeah, he're right,
You're right, yea. And I think

2168
02:07:33.920 --> 02:07:36.800
like the directs they it gives them
a chance to chose more personality and humor

2169
02:07:36.840 --> 02:07:40.600
and stuff, Like they've done some
pretty funny, charming things in those so

2170
02:07:40.760 --> 02:07:43.359
like I almost kind of prefer Nintendo
to do anything. And also they can

2171
02:07:43.359 --> 02:07:45.159
also get more elaborate than they could
in the stage setting. Yeah. Also,

2172
02:07:45.199 --> 02:07:48.199
if I don't know that we music
demo, that's true, it's pretty

2173
02:07:48.239 --> 02:07:53.840
elaborate. Also, if that thing's
got any weird wireless transmission stuff, that

2174
02:07:54.000 --> 02:07:59.520
definitely helps them control the environment and
not run into weird interference problems that PlayStation

2175
02:07:59.600 --> 02:08:03.840
VR down. I was real good. Oh man, Yeah, that's a

2176
02:08:03.880 --> 02:08:07.359
shame because the guy given that demo
was doctor Richard Marks from Sony, who's

2177
02:08:07.439 --> 02:08:11.239
like a like a super instrumental guy
in their hardware R and D for like

2178
02:08:11.359 --> 02:08:15.199
a long time. Yes, he's
been there for ages and he totally knows

2179
02:08:15.279 --> 02:08:16.760
his ship. So I was like, man, that's hard to watch stuff

2180
02:08:16.800 --> 02:08:20.239
like that happens. It felt really
bad seeing that stuff mess up. I

2181
02:08:20.359 --> 02:08:24.520
was mostly just excited that it looked
like Discs of trontly, Like shit,

2182
02:08:24.640 --> 02:08:26.000
they need to make that into a
game, yep, and make it look

2183
02:08:26.079 --> 02:08:31.039
exactly like that, but work Adam
from Redwind, Washington. Uh. In

2184
02:08:31.159 --> 02:08:35.079
Day of the Technacle, you could
use weird eds computer and play the original

2185
02:08:35.159 --> 02:08:37.840
Maniac Mansion. Huh. Well,
day have the Tentacle remastered contain Maniac mentioned

2186
02:08:37.880 --> 02:08:43.920
reasd remastered as well? I would
imagine it would contain a regular Maniac manchon

2187
02:08:43.960 --> 02:08:48.439
straight up Maniac Mansion or unless that's
a weird rights thing. I would assume

2188
02:08:48.479 --> 02:08:50.279
it would. I would assume it
would still be in there. God,

2189
02:08:50.319 --> 02:08:52.680
it would. That would be terrible. Well, I mean, is there

2190
02:08:52.720 --> 02:08:54.680
is a devote, always replace it
with something else. We know it's devoted,

2191
02:08:54.720 --> 02:08:56.920
there is they are to preserving that
stuff. I would imagine they'd do

2192
02:08:58.680 --> 02:09:01.640
whatever was necessary. But yeah,
like, I don't know if what are

2193
02:09:01.640 --> 02:09:07.000
the rights issues around a game within
a game? I don't know, nam

2194
02:09:07.159 --> 02:09:09.319
colds the pattern, No, I
don't. Yeah that's over now, yep,

2195
02:09:09.479 --> 02:09:15.000
that's true. Yeah fuck that.
Mini games during loading screens now free

2196
02:09:15.079 --> 02:09:18.399
for all for everybody. Although like
it ended right, it ended twenty fourth

2197
02:09:18.479 --> 02:09:22.720
is when people could start developing them
again, It's like that's official. Yeah,

2198
02:09:22.880 --> 02:09:24.439
where the fuck are the mini games
and loading screen and start developed?

2199
02:09:24.439 --> 02:09:28.520
You can't start developing one and oh
you literally couldn't even put work into one.

2200
02:09:28.880 --> 02:09:30.800
It wasn't just you could put them
out after that, you wouldn't be

2201
02:09:30.840 --> 02:09:33.439
able to release one that you had
been working. Oh is that how the

2202
02:09:33.479 --> 02:09:37.039
patent stuff works? That's crazy?
Okay, it seems like that would be

2203
02:09:37.039 --> 02:09:41.920
hard to enforce. Yeah, we
made this game in a week. Yeah,

2204
02:09:41.840 --> 02:09:45.399
especially as long as some of the
load times have been on the consoles

2205
02:09:45.439 --> 02:09:48.000
recently, you could be just caused
three with you give me something to do.

2206
02:09:50.239 --> 02:09:54.399
Uh, let's see, So rotating
something on like a Fallout or Skyrim

2207
02:09:54.560 --> 02:09:58.600
that that doesn't count as a game. I wonder at what point it legally

2208
02:09:58.720 --> 02:10:01.119
she comes a game because sky I
ever mad that too. So that's been

2209
02:10:01.119 --> 02:10:03.119
a while and you're really do stuff
like Bayonet and FIFA because that was like

2210
02:10:03.359 --> 02:10:07.960
a subsection of the full game that
was getting right, it's not training of

2211
02:10:07.039 --> 02:10:11.960
the actual game. Yeah. Oh, let's see, Danny, it's a

2212
02:10:11.960 --> 02:10:15.439
good day for you to be here
wait. Oh god, it's a question

2213
02:10:15.479 --> 02:10:18.039
about Ireland, isn't it? Potatoes? Potatoes are my favorite vegetable, followed

2214
02:10:18.079 --> 02:10:24.880
by Paris nips, followed by what
about breakfast? Yeah? Same? Oh

2215
02:10:24.960 --> 02:10:28.000
okay, potatoes and Lucky Charms.
I'm the first time I look at arms

2216
02:10:28.119 --> 02:10:31.520
in Los Angeles, like four years
ago. You were they everything? You

2217
02:10:31.600 --> 02:10:35.399
hope they alf the time. I
don't like them at all. Yeah,

2218
02:10:35.479 --> 02:10:37.479
okay, okay. I thought you
guys were about to about how much you

2219
02:10:37.520 --> 02:10:41.000
love Lucky Charms and I was about
to feel weird. Sh Ever, just

2220
02:10:41.119 --> 02:10:43.199
thinking about biting it out of it. It's like styrophones gives me a weird

2221
02:10:43.319 --> 02:10:46.399
like I kind of I kind of
liked the texture just because of how alien

2222
02:10:46.479 --> 02:10:48.880
it was. But you're you're right, it's not good. Alpha bits have

2223
02:10:50.000 --> 02:10:52.119
the same. Yeah, they're not
alphabets. Yeah, they're not Coco pops

2224
02:10:52.119 --> 02:10:54.720
thing. Where you've had it?
Do you guys call them that? Here?

2225
02:10:54.000 --> 02:10:58.119
Yeah? Yeah, where they had
the Yeah. It's like after a

2226
02:10:58.159 --> 02:11:01.159
while, it's just like it's a
chocolate and it's not nice anymore. The

2227
02:11:01.199 --> 02:11:03.680
milk's gone weird. It's like that
would look at arms, except that happens

2228
02:11:03.720 --> 02:11:05.079
in like twenty five seconds. Yeah. Yeah, the non marshmallow parts,

2229
02:11:05.079 --> 02:11:09.600
so that gets sludgy engrossed real fast. Anyway, Sorry, I just turned

2230
02:11:09.600 --> 02:11:13.840
it into my own stage accidentally.
I'm thinking about breakfast. What's not?

2231
02:11:13.960 --> 02:11:16.319
What is it? What is the
traditional Irish breakfast? Is it similar to

2232
02:11:16.359 --> 02:11:20.800
in English? Yeah? Similar English
that we have black pudding and white pudding

2233
02:11:20.800 --> 02:11:22.680
as well. Whit putting? Wait? What is white pudding? It's the

2234
02:11:22.720 --> 02:11:24.560
same as black pudding, except they
don't have the blood. No wait blood

2235
02:11:24.960 --> 02:11:28.479
black pudding was just blood. No, it's like a bunch of other stuff.

2236
02:11:28.520 --> 02:11:31.199
Wait, really I thought it was
just Wait, but blood sausage is

2237
02:11:31.199 --> 02:11:33.600
just blood right, No, it's
like awful and everything else. Wait really

2238
02:11:33.680 --> 02:11:35.920
I think so? Yeah, I
don't actually know the process. It's like

2239
02:11:35.039 --> 02:11:39.960
it's similar to like like mushroom,
not much sausages. What exactly is awful?

2240
02:11:41.239 --> 02:11:43.720
Is it? That's like giblets and
stuff. It's just random, just

2241
02:11:43.880 --> 02:11:46.600
random parts parts, you know,
parts of you like boiling the leftover parse?

2242
02:11:46.880 --> 02:11:50.359
Wait is awful and name of food? Yeah, it's a part of

2243
02:11:50.359 --> 02:11:52.960
the animal. I think more than
and again in Ireland? Right, well,

2244
02:11:52.960 --> 02:11:56.239
yeah, it's it's an English It's
a word in the English language.

2245
02:11:56.560 --> 02:12:01.880
Referring to something like, oh,
okay, I was gonna say, that's

2246
02:12:01.880 --> 02:12:05.479
a terrible name. I got my
There's this place called the English Market and

2247
02:12:05.560 --> 02:12:09.239
Cork where I used to live for
a while. One of my friends lived

2248
02:12:09.279 --> 02:12:11.800
there and he was needing to he
needed to get fast because he was like

2249
02:12:11.880 --> 02:12:13.359
making like some sort of big meat
thing. And he went down to the

2250
02:12:13.359 --> 02:12:16.000
English Market and said, I need
to buy fat and he was like.

2251
02:12:16.159 --> 02:12:18.039
The guy was like, you know, you can make your own fat.

2252
02:12:18.640 --> 02:12:20.680
It's like, okay, how do
I do that? And he sold him

2253
02:12:22.159 --> 02:12:24.880
what's it called that? Like white
stuff? It's like they cut it off

2254
02:12:24.920 --> 02:12:28.199
the meat, and there was a
massive butchers. They just had shiploads of

2255
02:12:28.199 --> 02:12:30.479
this stuff. And I forget what
it's called. It's awful it because it's

2256
02:12:30.520 --> 02:12:33.279
it's something else. So he just
gave him like bags of this ship.

2257
02:12:33.479 --> 02:12:35.359
He said, just boil a bunch
of that. You get all the fight

2258
02:12:35.439 --> 02:12:37.560
you need. What's that curdledge?
Is it? No? It's like fat?

2259
02:12:37.720 --> 02:12:41.319
I thought, I thought, yeah, like the white stuff on meat.

2260
02:12:41.439 --> 02:12:43.520
Yeah. Yeah, it's like there's
like a word for like this amount

2261
02:12:43.560 --> 02:12:46.520
of it. It's like they had
bags and bags of it, and he

2262
02:12:46.600 --> 02:12:48.279
was like, you gott have it
for free. Just there you go.

2263
02:12:48.720 --> 02:12:50.640
And then he boiled a bunch of
fat in his house and his smelt like

2264
02:12:50.680 --> 02:12:54.000
fat for like two months. Oh
that sounds terrible. It's not it's not

2265
02:12:54.239 --> 02:12:58.039
tallo is it? Oh no,
it's something out became with sant do it?

2266
02:13:00.199 --> 02:13:01.760
So many words for fat? I
don't know. Don't do it though,

2267
02:13:01.840 --> 02:13:05.159
That's all I got, all right, Sorry, what was the original?

2268
02:13:05.319 --> 02:13:07.479
I could never eat blood, anything, black, anything. I'm sorry.

2269
02:13:07.520 --> 02:13:09.720
I just can't do it. It's
like it does not even taste.

2270
02:13:09.800 --> 02:13:13.520
I've eaten a lot of weird stuff, but I can't eat congealed blood.

2271
02:13:13.239 --> 02:13:16.159
Man, I just can't. I
mean, you eat sausages, that's faces.

2272
02:13:18.039 --> 02:13:20.840
The taste is gone. Yeah,
it taste delicious. I don't actually

2273
02:13:20.880 --> 02:13:24.520
like to taste of blood. I
did not know that that was a weird

2274
02:13:24.600 --> 02:13:26.520
thing until I moved like over here. I think I had some blood in

2275
02:13:26.600 --> 02:13:30.039
Korea actually, and I did not
enjoy It does not taste like blood like

2276
02:13:30.079 --> 02:13:33.079
I like blue meat. But it
does not taste like that. Wait,

2277
02:13:33.800 --> 02:13:37.079
blue like raw blue is blue is
like a little bit right, yeah weird?

2278
02:13:37.159 --> 02:13:41.520
Yeah, blue blue is like the
one I'll eat rare like blue is

2279
02:13:41.560 --> 02:13:43.399
the one above rare. All right, okay, yah, yeah, Like

2280
02:13:43.479 --> 02:13:46.680
I'll have like meat, you know, meaty steaks, like bloody food.

2281
02:13:46.720 --> 02:13:48.720
I don't mind that. Yeah,
but that's not what it tastes. I

2282
02:13:48.880 --> 02:13:52.000
don't mind that either. I just
don't want to eat actual like solid blood.

2283
02:13:52.000 --> 02:13:54.640
It's delicious, man, Get some
clown of guilty pudding any and stuffing

2284
02:13:54.640 --> 02:14:01.920
it rather eat lucky charms. Come
on, all right, Mark from Vancouver.

2285
02:14:01.920 --> 02:14:05.119
As a fairly new member of the
site, I'm not clear on Jeff's

2286
02:14:05.119 --> 02:14:07.399
history with the Commodore sixty four.
I assume that he had one as a

2287
02:14:07.479 --> 02:14:11.520
kid and has also acquired a collection
of tapes later in life. I certainly

2288
02:14:11.560 --> 02:14:15.239
enjoy his updates and comments on the
platform. Growing up in the UK,

2289
02:14:15.439 --> 02:14:18.439
my first exposure to games was my
cousins C sixty four, which I later

2290
02:14:18.560 --> 02:14:20.760
inherited, But my first new computer
was an Amiga six hundred. Yea,

2291
02:14:22.399 --> 02:14:24.439
did Jeff or anyone on the crew
spend much time with the Amiga platform?

2292
02:14:26.199 --> 02:14:28.359
An he thought on revisiting some classic
Amiga games on the site in a similar

2293
02:14:28.439 --> 02:14:33.159
way to how Jeff covered some C
sixty four games. Sadly, my parents

2294
02:14:33.239 --> 02:14:35.960
mistakenly donated my Amiga six hundred while
I was away at university. That's what

2295
02:14:37.039 --> 02:14:39.319
I'd have to find one on eBay
or emulate to experience those games again.

2296
02:14:41.000 --> 02:14:43.399
Have any of you misplaced, sold, or given away something video game related

2297
02:14:43.399 --> 02:14:46.279
that you now regret? Yeah,
my Amiga six hundred of my parents gave

2298
02:14:46.359 --> 02:14:50.720
to my aunts, who then like
fucking disappeared, and I got one as

2299
02:14:50.720 --> 02:14:54.960
a birthday presents of years later from
a friend. You can get them pretty

2300
02:14:54.359 --> 02:15:01.119
there's enough of the match amulation on
Amiga's actually pretty difficult. Well as there's

2301
02:15:01.159 --> 02:15:05.760
some good Amiga emulator like win you
ae is is a pretty good piece of

2302
02:15:05.800 --> 02:15:09.520
software I couldn't get. Yeah,
yeah, so you have to kind of

2303
02:15:09.560 --> 02:15:13.479
cross that barrier of of getting the
kick starts and stuff like that. There

2304
02:15:13.479 --> 02:15:16.560
are packages you can actually buy that
just give you the necessary kind of work

2305
02:15:16.600 --> 02:15:22.800
bench and kickstart stuff. Uh.
I have an A five hundred. I

2306
02:15:22.840 --> 02:15:24.920
have a couple of them actually,
but they're one of them is broken.

2307
02:15:26.840 --> 02:15:31.840
And yeah, so I had a
Commodore one twenty eight. So I never

2308
02:15:31.880 --> 02:15:35.560
actually had tapes from my C sixty
four. I just got a disk drive

2309
02:15:35.680 --> 02:15:39.720
right away. I had taped on
my Atari before that, years before that,

2310
02:15:39.039 --> 02:15:43.720
And yeah, I just I have
a friend of my cousin had one

2311
02:15:43.800 --> 02:15:46.399
and I really liked it. And
then a friend of mine we moved when

2312
02:15:46.399 --> 02:15:50.640
I got a junior high and my
friend across the street had one, and

2313
02:15:50.760 --> 02:15:54.520
that made me want one, So
I upgraded to A one twenty eight.

2314
02:15:54.760 --> 02:15:58.520
Uh and then yeah, yeah,
like I don't know, ninety two or

2315
02:15:58.560 --> 02:16:03.279
something like that. Got hold of
a a Mega five hundred from a friend,

2316
02:16:03.680 --> 02:16:07.520
and you're like the only American I
have met? I think. Who

2317
02:16:07.680 --> 02:16:09.039
I owned an Amiga? Ye like
not very big over here at Yeah,

2318
02:16:09.039 --> 02:16:13.800
I didn't know a single person.
I never I barely hurt. I didn't

2319
02:16:13.800 --> 02:16:16.079
play that many games on it.
I just didn't have the hook up to

2320
02:16:16.159 --> 02:16:20.560
get games, and they weren't really
sold because no one was buying amiga's at

2321
02:16:20.640 --> 02:16:24.520
that time. It just wasn't really
the software was not out there. Oh,

2322
02:16:24.760 --> 02:16:28.319
speaking of the Amiga, did you
guys see Shadow of the Beast to

2323
02:16:28.359 --> 02:16:31.440
play it? Actually did any thoughts? Like? I never played the originals?

2324
02:16:31.559 --> 02:16:35.559
I the original It doesn't make any
sense to me. It never did.

2325
02:16:35.760 --> 02:16:37.479
Yeah, it's a weird game,
weird game. Super It's it's kind

2326
02:16:37.520 --> 02:16:41.680
of like a I always wondered if
it was just like an altered Beast knockoff,

2327
02:16:41.680 --> 02:16:43.680
because there was a lot of that
happening on the Amiga, right with

2328
02:16:43.799 --> 02:16:48.479
like Johnasisters and Mario and Zul was
always like a sonic well Zuls on everything

2329
02:16:48.520 --> 02:16:52.920
too, I mean, you know, but there was there's a Genesis version

2330
02:16:52.959 --> 02:16:56.159
of Zul. It's probably a Snaest
vers two. Anyway, the Amiga.

2331
02:16:56.600 --> 02:17:03.600
I continue to look at the Amiga
library and try to play different games and

2332
02:17:03.799 --> 02:17:05.639
and think like, oh, you
know what, what would be some games

2333
02:17:05.639 --> 02:17:07.719
that would like, you know,
and ask people like what are the games

2334
02:17:07.840 --> 02:17:11.040
on the Amiga that are worth looking
at? And a lot of the time

2335
02:17:11.600 --> 02:17:13.520
they will mention games that have you
know, been arcade games, like it's

2336
02:17:13.559 --> 02:17:16.520
ports of other stuff. So it's
one of the things where like I'm trying

2337
02:17:16.559 --> 02:17:22.040
to figure out, like what are
the Amiga the Amiga exclusives, what are

2338
02:17:22.079 --> 02:17:24.399
like the shining points of the Amiga
library that you can old still only play

2339
02:17:24.479 --> 02:17:28.959
there that are really worth looking at, Like all the big ones got portive,

2340
02:17:28.120 --> 02:17:33.639
Yeah, exactly, so it's sortable
to speedbol Speedboll series was all the

2341
02:17:33.680 --> 02:17:37.120
bit. My brother's stuff was original
and the like imported to consoles or devices

2342
02:17:37.159 --> 02:17:39.520
that had you know, more buttons
on their controllers, and the games were

2343
02:17:39.520 --> 02:17:41.959
just you know a little bit easier
to play, like connon fodder Sensible Soccer.

2344
02:17:43.399 --> 02:17:46.079
Can of Fodder's great. Yeah,
it's a great game, Sensible Soccer.

2345
02:17:46.360 --> 02:17:50.840
You people are crazy at Turrikan.
Like Chaos Engine, Hurrican was never

2346
02:17:50.479 --> 02:17:56.719
Awesomecast Engine came out here as Soldier
of Fortune, but they licensed from the

2347
02:17:56.840 --> 02:18:03.399
magazine Soldier of Fortune Spectrum Hollabyte brought
it over Jesus before Raven got their hands

2348
02:18:03.440 --> 02:18:05.559
on the Yeah, yeah, yeah, they brought it over for consoles.

2349
02:18:05.840 --> 02:18:09.559
Wow. And and that just seemed
like a bad shooter. So it's one

2350
02:18:09.559 --> 02:18:13.040
of those things where it's like a
lot of those games just seemed bad now

2351
02:18:13.520 --> 02:18:16.760
like they haven't aged super well or
they've been ported elsewhere where they're more playable.

2352
02:18:18.680 --> 02:18:20.680
So it's like, yeah, I
don't like people are like, oh

2353
02:18:20.799 --> 02:18:22.360
Man, Street Fighter two was awesome
on the emigas, I'm sure it was,

2354
02:18:22.559 --> 02:18:26.600
but like they have four discs.
Yeah, like that just doesn't matter

2355
02:18:26.719 --> 02:18:28.639
now, Like so many of the
ones that were like when I think about

2356
02:18:28.719 --> 02:18:31.959
games like I love playing, like
theme Park and Syndicate, like they are

2357
02:18:31.959 --> 02:18:33.159
all so many of them were doss
games, right, were games that were

2358
02:18:33.200 --> 02:18:37.040
coming. Yeah, I mean I
played Syndicate, you know on Doss and

2359
02:18:37.680 --> 02:18:39.959
that that, to me was the
version of the game. Like I actually

2360
02:18:39.000 --> 02:18:41.280
went and looked at the Amiga version, kind of curious to see if it

2361
02:18:41.319 --> 02:18:43.680
was any better. I was like, I think I'll stick with the PC.

2362
02:18:43.840 --> 02:18:48.799
They all run rather slow, yeah, which but you never noticed,

2363
02:18:48.840 --> 02:18:52.520
because like that's why Sensible World of
Soccer and Sensible Soccer were these like like

2364
02:18:52.559 --> 02:18:56.239
oh my god, you can make
games this fast and controlled. Yeah,

2365
02:18:56.440 --> 02:18:58.920
and like yeah, so many of
those sports they weren't idea like More of

2366
02:18:58.959 --> 02:19:01.799
a Combat was a three day this
game in which you had to do two

2367
02:19:01.840 --> 02:19:05.159
disk stops before a bunch of fights, and x com I think it was

2368
02:19:05.280 --> 02:19:09.399
eleven discs. Monkey Island two was
twelve, Monkey Ala one was four.

2369
02:19:09.680 --> 02:19:13.200
Like there was a lot of like
like I love playing games like Desert Strike,

2370
02:19:13.239 --> 02:19:15.799
but like it's not the best play
way to play Desert Strike. There

2371
02:19:15.920 --> 02:19:18.840
was it was just like I don't
know what it was. It's like people

2372
02:19:18.920 --> 02:19:24.520
look fondly, look back fondly on
the Amiga six hundred because it was just

2373
02:19:24.760 --> 02:19:28.920
like I wonder if the fact that
there was so much like blatant copyright and

2374
02:19:28.959 --> 02:19:31.920
that there was just this bounty of
games that everyone had access to and if

2375
02:19:31.959 --> 02:19:35.000
you had a friend to it an
amiga, you just had shitloads of discs.

2376
02:19:35.200 --> 02:19:39.959
So it was just this like super
crazy like experimenting crazy types of games,

2377
02:19:39.360 --> 02:19:43.159
Like there was loads of indie games
on the front of magazines coming outs

2378
02:19:43.159 --> 02:19:45.639
and then big budget games getting made
for it. It was just there was

2379
02:19:45.680 --> 02:19:48.040
loads of stuff out on it and
it was easily accessible. It was it

2380
02:19:48.079 --> 02:19:52.239
possible to make any money on that
thing though, basically killed Commodore right.

2381
02:19:52.760 --> 02:19:54.520
It was the well, it wasn't
the straw book to commes back maybe,

2382
02:19:54.600 --> 02:19:58.440
but like no, and like you
go back in. There's a great book

2383
02:19:58.479 --> 02:20:01.799
out called Britsoft, which is made
in the UK, which basically tells the

2384
02:20:01.840 --> 02:20:05.280
story of all the people who got
out and all the people who didn't.

2385
02:20:05.360 --> 02:20:07.479
Like the amount of people who got
out of that, like companies who were

2386
02:20:09.159 --> 02:20:11.120
people who got rich off of making
a media games you can count on like

2387
02:20:11.200 --> 02:20:13.479
one hand, like there was you
know, but it was also like you

2388
02:20:13.520 --> 02:20:18.479
know, it seems like that's that
book is amazing, uh and and there's

2389
02:20:18.600 --> 02:20:22.600
yeah, there's just a ton of
people that were like our legendary that made

2390
02:20:22.639 --> 02:20:24.840
it out of that thing, and
maybe they didn't make their money there,

2391
02:20:24.959 --> 02:20:30.280
but they at least like cut their
teeth and got in to a point where

2392
02:20:30.280 --> 02:20:31.639
they were able to probably make a
lot of money after the fact. And

2393
02:20:31.719 --> 02:20:35.559
there's lots of didn't. Like.
Yeah, there's some you know, there's

2394
02:20:35.639 --> 02:20:37.840
there's some tragic stories that there's was
that our own called from Bedroom to Billions,

2395
02:20:39.120 --> 02:20:41.680
that documentary. They're doing an Amigo
one now, I think, and

2396
02:20:41.879 --> 02:20:45.600
like some of the like I met
some of the Bitmap Brothers guys a launch

2397
02:20:45.680 --> 02:20:48.360
party for a Sensible Software book,
right, and like, some of those

2398
02:20:48.399 --> 02:20:52.920
guys look like they've not had the
easiest Yeah, I've even heard about some

2399
02:20:54.000 --> 02:20:56.600
of that stuff. Yeah, Like
the Sensible Software guys are all just like

2400
02:20:58.200 --> 02:21:03.040
developers John Harry, lead guy.
He like lectures in London. Some of

2401
02:21:03.079 --> 02:21:05.680
them are just like graphics dudes and
audio dudes and the three D when games,

2402
02:21:05.680 --> 02:21:09.120
when consoles ran three D in development
three D, they just kind of

2403
02:21:09.200 --> 02:21:11.879
got left behind. You know,
that's really tragic. What'll happen there?

2404
02:21:13.639 --> 02:21:15.719
Great though, love it. I
got an Amiga six hundred on my desk.

2405
02:21:16.479 --> 02:21:18.120
Really, yeah, I want to
come see what that looks like.

2406
02:21:18.239 --> 02:21:22.159
Man, Yeah, I'll show you, right, now fondle it, don't

2407
02:21:22.200 --> 02:21:24.159
touch it. Okay, break it. You bought it. I'm terrified to

2408
02:21:24.200 --> 02:21:28.040
flug it in America. Oh yeah, and I would totally sit down and

2409
02:21:28.120 --> 02:21:30.120
check some of those games out if
you guys ever wanted to you want,

2410
02:21:30.200 --> 02:21:33.399
well, you guys are all about
long streams. You want to have some

2411
02:21:33.479 --> 02:21:35.879
loading time? Yeah, well it's
the benefit of a good emulators. You

2412
02:21:35.920 --> 02:21:41.000
can kind of wet. We gotta
emulate it. For real. That was

2413
02:21:41.040 --> 02:21:45.600
the worst one of your discs.
Point load or like, oh you can

2414
02:21:45.639 --> 02:21:46.639
play most of the game, but
if I walk into this room, I

2415
02:21:46.719 --> 02:21:50.559
can't play anymore. Yeah, I
mean how long are we talking to load

2416
02:21:50.600 --> 02:21:56.159
a disc? I don't know,
like anywhere between like twenty seconds to a

2417
02:21:56.200 --> 02:21:58.719
minute. Yeah, it depends.
Like sometimes they just loaded a bunch onto

2418
02:21:58.799 --> 02:22:01.840
rap. For the two disc games, they were just like load all the

2419
02:22:01.879 --> 02:22:05.520
disc one and then this too.
Will just kind of sit there and play

2420
02:22:05.559 --> 02:22:09.440
whatever whatever thinking one megaby to RAM. Yeah, they were all kinds of

2421
02:22:09.680 --> 02:22:13.040
RAM expansions and stuff like that.
You could buy a second megabyte for one

2422
02:22:13.120 --> 02:22:20.360
hundred ye old Irish pounds. Yep
uh. Email from Stephen. I remember

2423
02:22:20.399 --> 02:22:24.360
when everyone would email in talking shit
about other cities. Why did that stop?

2424
02:22:24.440 --> 02:22:28.399
I love that we should do that
again. I'll start fuck Cleveland from

2425
02:22:28.440 --> 02:22:33.920
Detroit. I don't any cross on
Cleveland. Pots and cattle is there,

2426
02:22:33.959 --> 02:22:37.200
isn't it? Yeah? I don't
heard thoughts on Cleveland. I don't know

2427
02:22:37.360 --> 02:22:39.479
the herd. The chili is good? Is that the rock and roll sandies

2428
02:22:39.479 --> 02:22:43.440
where the chili is good? Yes? I understand that it rocks, But

2429
02:22:43.479 --> 02:22:48.920
it's still Ohio. There's that.
Any internet video where they talk trash about

2430
02:22:48.959 --> 02:22:52.239
Cleveland, you can probably get that
for every time. Now, Ohio sounds

2431
02:22:52.280 --> 02:22:56.920
more exciting than Indiana. I think
either of those places. No, just

2432
02:22:58.159 --> 02:23:01.200
just figuring they're all driving to sense
of everywhere else in the Midwest. I've

2433
02:23:01.239 --> 02:23:05.120
never been anywhere out so good Lord. No Kansas, No, no,

2434
02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:09.120
no. Yeah. At least Cleveland
has like several cities I've heard of.

2435
02:23:09.360 --> 02:23:16.520
Indiana just has Indianapolis. Can you
name any other Indiana? Oh? You

2436
02:23:18.280 --> 02:23:24.159
like Cleveland? Like Cleveland, Cincinnati
and Columbus. Right, yep, that's

2437
02:23:24.200 --> 02:23:28.040
three right there, man. I
know there's race cars in Indiana. And

2438
02:23:28.120 --> 02:23:31.520
Dave Letterman and Axel Rose, which, to be fair, are to my

2439
02:23:31.559 --> 02:23:33.719
favorite human beings that have ever lived. I can't, but they don't live

2440
02:23:33.760 --> 02:23:37.159
there anymore. So right now,
Indiana's probably terrible. I can't think of

2441
02:23:37.200 --> 02:23:39.959
anything. This is terrible. Yeah, this is embarrassing. Is there something

2442
02:23:41.040 --> 02:23:43.639
Bend? North Bend, East Bend? Are you looking at me? Bro

2443
02:23:45.719 --> 02:23:48.399
and you grew up that I place? Right? Indiana? That's it,

2444
02:23:48.920 --> 02:23:52.040
Indiana. There's a I usually assume
that non Americans know more about American geography

2445
02:23:52.079 --> 02:23:56.920
than I mean, they're just is
Purdue, and maybe that might be there.

2446
02:23:58.079 --> 02:24:01.840
Maybe I've just never heard of anything
excepting ever happening in Indiana. All

2447
02:24:01.920 --> 02:24:05.360
right, well there it's racing.
I said something. Did we get into

2448
02:24:05.360 --> 02:24:07.920
these cars crash? And that's exciting? How did we get it onto Indiana?

2449
02:24:07.959 --> 02:24:11.159
He didn't even mention because I was
thinking about how Ohio was boring,

2450
02:24:11.239 --> 02:24:13.280
and then I remember, oh,
it's pretty close to Indiana, and that

2451
02:24:13.280 --> 02:24:18.520
seems more boring about Ohio. So
now Dan is throwing shade at very Indiana.

2452
02:24:18.719 --> 02:24:22.479
Kansas man, Okay, all right, gaunt was just thrown. I

2453
02:24:22.520 --> 02:24:24.360
guess yeah, the worst states,
mister, you know, at the worst

2454
02:24:24.360 --> 02:24:28.799
city I've been in this country.
Mil petis really California. Get that,

2455
02:24:28.879 --> 02:24:33.799
mall? What's up that smell?
Smell? Fucking I was on an internet

2456
02:24:33.879 --> 02:24:37.879
mel Petis and I was like,
I felt bad. I had to like

2457
02:24:37.959 --> 02:24:39.280
check over my shoulder. I like, I'm sorry if you're from mel Peters.

2458
02:24:39.440 --> 02:24:43.879
I googled why does Melpea smell?
Fucking Plenty of websites down you talking

2459
02:24:43.879 --> 02:24:48.319
about IY some rendering plant there?
Oh, super smells now, mel Peters.

2460
02:24:48.559 --> 02:24:54.440
There used to be an arcade in
that mall and I think Namco would

2461
02:24:54.479 --> 02:24:58.360
have stuff there, uh, because
they were located nearby. So I remember

2462
02:24:58.440 --> 02:25:03.040
going like, oh, is a
techn tournament down here or something? Tech

2463
02:25:03.200 --> 02:25:07.040
tournament? Yeah, in a world
famous grand tradition of the world famous mis

2464
02:25:07.040 --> 02:25:11.479
tech tournament. Take it all back? Yeah, great place. It smells

2465
02:25:11.559 --> 02:25:15.479
because so many people get thrown into
volcanoes there. Yeah. Right there in

2466
02:25:15.479 --> 02:25:18.280
the welcome center under the town loadan, it says Kenyan, home of the

2467
02:25:18.399 --> 02:25:22.440
King of Iron Fist. You and
from Manchester, Good day, duters.

2468
02:25:22.479 --> 02:25:28.200
Mine is a two part question.
Grime is having something of a commercial resurgence

2469
02:25:28.239 --> 02:25:30.799
here in the UK, and as
far as I'm aware, it is having

2470
02:25:30.879 --> 02:25:35.840
some success state side. Do any
of the Giant Bob crew enjoy the musical

2471
02:25:35.879 --> 02:25:41.239
stylings of lethal Bizil Bugsy Bloone,
Skepta, Stormsy or Big Narsty or are

2472
02:25:41.280 --> 02:25:45.520
you all simply pagan wasteman. I've
heard some Skepta that I thought was okay.

2473
02:25:45.799 --> 02:25:48.200
Yeah, but that's the only one
of the of those that I've heard

2474
02:25:48.239 --> 02:25:52.840
of, Lethal Basil I've heard of. Yeah, that's Big Narsty. Nobody

2475
02:25:54.000 --> 02:25:58.360
Narsty is pretty good. What was
the last one? Big Narsty was the

2476
02:25:58.399 --> 02:26:05.239
last one? Got the Bugsy Malone, Stormsy, storm Zy, fucking uk

2477
02:26:05.000 --> 02:26:07.879
your names? That's pretty good,
right, God? I just want to

2478
02:26:07.920 --> 02:26:11.399
know, yeh, lethal business.
No, I want to look at Big

2479
02:26:11.559 --> 02:26:15.920
Narsty if we can hear some of
that here Narsty? Who I e Oh,

2480
02:26:16.079 --> 02:26:18.600
of course I should have known?
Okay, Well, while you do

2481
02:26:18.719 --> 02:26:22.719
that, I'll read the second half
of his question. Secondly, if EA

2482
02:26:22.799 --> 02:26:24.280
were to announce a new def Jam
game, as we all know they should,

2483
02:26:24.959 --> 02:26:28.280
who would you like to see on
the roster? I personally would love

2484
02:26:28.319 --> 02:26:33.840
to see how many alternate costumes a
roided out young thug would have. Keep

2485
02:26:33.920 --> 02:26:35.760
up the good work and fuck leads, they're all in bread cheap shaggers up

2486
02:26:35.799 --> 02:26:39.840
there. Oh man, So like
I don't know what happened the place beef

2487
02:26:39.959 --> 02:26:43.840
is just back this week out of
nowhere us. They just pissed off.

2488
02:26:45.120 --> 02:26:46.920
Well, yeah, you got Eric
Kanson. I don't be a dick about

2489
02:26:46.920 --> 02:26:52.440
it. There's a reference you can
all get. This WiFi takes forever to

2490
02:26:54.879 --> 02:26:58.840
handle. Yeah, okay, the
WiFi was I'm on the like the public

2491
02:26:58.360 --> 02:27:05.479
Wi fire whatever, and it's it's
a fucking real shit show. Okay,

2492
02:27:05.600 --> 02:27:07.600
I'm hitting except yes, no,
I know the Victoria's Secret. Yes again,

2493
02:27:07.680 --> 02:27:16.079
it advertising CBS shows when you connect
to CBS public WiFi. Big Narsty

2494
02:27:20.040 --> 02:27:26.239
Okay, what was the question before
leads? Uh? Who should be?

2495
02:27:26.639 --> 02:27:28.479
Who should be on the roster of
the new deef Jam game? Warren zevon

2496
02:27:30.280 --> 02:27:35.399
Jesus Christ I would put well,
I don't know. I mean, were

2497
02:27:35.399 --> 02:27:39.000
they all def Jam artists? No, No, they were not. That

2498
02:27:39.120 --> 02:27:41.280
was the one of the coolest parts
about is you know they were able to

2499
02:27:41.360 --> 02:27:46.319
kind of get outside. This is
don't sit down by Big Narsty. Wait,

2500
02:27:46.360 --> 02:27:50.120
where's the speaker on this? How
do I hold this up? I

2501
02:27:50.120 --> 02:27:54.120
don't think that's that's not outside of
us his hand. That's maybe not gonna

2502
02:27:54.120 --> 02:28:01.760
play. It's just live. I
don't know. Oh, okay, that

2503
02:28:01.920 --> 02:28:09.079
was just he was watching the TV
in the videos under story, the story

2504
02:28:09.799 --> 02:28:16.600
Glory. He looks like Bizarre from
D twelve. Yeah, I'll skip ahead.

2505
02:28:18.399 --> 02:28:31.280
Was the road side the road?
He sounds a lot like Dizzy Roscoe.

2506
02:28:31.879 --> 02:28:33.959
Yeah he does it, really does? I know? It's a London

2507
02:28:35.000 --> 02:28:37.840
accent. Settle on the accent vote. What does he saying from Brixton?

2508
02:28:37.920 --> 02:28:43.639
That's yeah, I guess what's the
story? Brixton Glory Part two is the

2509
02:28:43.760 --> 02:28:48.600
name of the album. All right. The only place I've been pickpocketed in

2510
02:28:48.680 --> 02:29:03.520
London. Here's a giant by a
big narsty. I just think it's funny.

2511
02:29:03.600 --> 02:29:07.600
I don't know like that. I
don't are people listening to that like

2512
02:29:07.719 --> 02:29:09.719
seriously? And I'm like, fucking
yeah, I'm entertained again, and like,

2513
02:29:09.959 --> 02:29:13.559
yes, I'm entertained by it.
I just listening like you guys,

2514
02:29:13.600 --> 02:29:18.239
fucking grime. It's hilarious. What
defines a crime? I don't know.

2515
02:29:18.319 --> 02:29:22.760
That's that's it's a It's a state
of mind. May I see? Uh?

2516
02:29:24.280 --> 02:29:28.559
Speaking of weird names, weird international
names for things, Anders writes in

2517
02:29:28.680 --> 02:29:31.840
from Denmark, Anders, that's a
weird name. Well, no, I'll

2518
02:29:31.879 --> 02:29:37.360
get the weird the weird stuff high
bombs. You're discussion about big Trouble in

2519
02:29:37.399 --> 02:29:41.440
Little China made me recall that the
Danish title of the film is loosely translated

2520
02:29:41.520 --> 02:29:46.440
as who do the Chinese blow up? For Chinese, in this case being

2521
02:29:46.479 --> 02:29:52.680
an ancient slang term for firecrackers.
Other great translated Danish titles are for Trading

2522
02:29:52.719 --> 02:29:58.159
Places, The Boss, and the
Bum. Okay, yeah, we're descriptive

2523
02:29:58.399 --> 02:30:03.239
every which, able to loose stewed
beef for naughty boys. Now you're talking

2524
02:30:05.280 --> 02:30:07.959
if you're kind of stewed beef for
for red heat a Russian cleans up in

2525
02:30:09.079 --> 02:30:13.040
Chicago. Yeah, yeah, accurate. I assume other countries might have similar

2526
02:30:13.079 --> 02:30:16.440
great titles. I would like to
hear them so fast and furious. This

2527
02:30:16.559 --> 02:30:20.440
call was it? It's called wild
Speed? Oh nice in Japan? Okay,

2528
02:30:20.520 --> 02:30:22.959
all right, it's not bad.
Yeah, you got a weird,

2529
02:30:24.079 --> 02:30:30.719
weird ass translated and then retranslated.
Uh uh. I was like the very

2530
02:30:30.799 --> 02:30:33.840
movie titles. Please. I always
like the version of Departed and Korea wasn't

2531
02:30:33.920 --> 02:30:37.159
was Infernal Affairs? Well the Departed
is based on that. Yeah, yeah,

2532
02:30:37.159 --> 02:30:39.840
I know, yeah, I like
that title. Oh yeah, yeah,

2533
02:30:39.920 --> 02:30:41.760
yeah, it's great. But yeah, that's a classic. It's not

2534
02:30:41.879 --> 02:30:45.000
Chris, It's uh, it's not
Korean. It's uh isn't. I thought

2535
02:30:45.000 --> 02:30:46.000
it was Korean. I don't know. I want to say it's Hong Kong.

2536
02:30:46.200 --> 02:30:48.959
Oh, you might be pretty sure. We might both be wrong.

2537
02:30:50.120 --> 02:30:52.680
It's been a long time since we've
had a game change. It's titled between

2538
02:30:52.719 --> 02:30:56.120
Europe and because we had like kind
OF's kind of met it with Bully right

2539
02:30:56.280 --> 02:31:01.399
and uh firen heis was Indigo prophecy
over here? Yeah, you're you know,

2540
02:31:01.479 --> 02:31:13.040
puzzle bobble bust a move yea god
split indeed, uh probotector it's contra

2541
02:31:15.319 --> 02:31:22.079
or grys or in some regions all
this I think that. Okay, I

2542
02:31:24.040 --> 02:31:24.760
I don't know if I should read
this. I'm gonna read this. I'm

2543
02:31:24.799 --> 02:31:31.639
gonna regret reading this. Keep your
answer relatively short. Bomb Cast Crew.

2544
02:31:31.680 --> 02:31:35.319
This from Greg not being a wrestling
fan. I need your expertise. Last

2545
02:31:35.360 --> 02:31:41.319
week, media circulated of American wrestler
Joey Ryan's dot dot dot unorthodox finishing move.

2546
02:31:41.479 --> 02:31:45.399
Okay and the Annals of Wrestling.
Where does this rank in terms of

2547
02:31:45.440 --> 02:31:50.200
weirdness? Is incapacitating an opponent using
only the power of your genitalia really that

2548
02:31:50.360 --> 02:31:54.760
odd? I mean I did what
happened in DDT, Yeah, which is

2549
02:31:56.000 --> 02:31:58.760
a Japanese promotion that is known for
ridiculous like they'll have like you know,

2550
02:32:00.040 --> 02:32:03.079
guys wrestling dolls and mannequins and stuff
like that and putting on like weirdly good

2551
02:32:03.159 --> 02:32:07.440
matches with inanimate objects. Yeah,
that are like kind of awesome. That's

2552
02:32:07.440 --> 02:32:11.280
creepy, but you know it's like
when when they're like pretending to get hit

2553
02:32:11.360 --> 02:32:13.959
by a fake thing and you believe
it, it's like wet, that's okay,

2554
02:32:13.280 --> 02:32:18.159
nuts. Uh, And this is
just kind of another in the long

2555
02:32:18.000 --> 02:32:22.280
brand tradition. You see that a
lot with like chicara and set to like

2556
02:32:22.360 --> 02:32:24.639
invisible hand grenades and slow motion attacks
and all that. So I'm like those

2557
02:32:24.680 --> 02:32:28.920
super silly things that it almost seems
like they're you know, orchestrated to get

2558
02:32:30.000 --> 02:32:33.520
go viral, and people that don't
normally watch look how crazy this is.

2559
02:32:33.600 --> 02:32:37.959
You know as far as actual like
WWE they've done weird snake charming things.

2560
02:32:39.479 --> 02:32:43.639
Uh, they've shot lightning out of
their hands, lots of fireballs. Fireballs

2561
02:32:43.680 --> 02:32:48.680
are kind of a long running classic
flash paper or whatever they're using. Yeah,

2562
02:32:48.879 --> 02:32:54.479
but nothing quite nothing that you have
to suspend your disbelief that much for

2563
02:32:54.520 --> 02:33:00.200
so no, I that that's maybe
mainly a japan DDT chicara type thing.

2564
02:33:00.639 --> 02:33:03.000
Japanese wrestling sounds like where it's at
well, so no, well, yes,

2565
02:33:03.200 --> 02:33:05.799
but not most most of it is
not like that. It's it is

2566
02:33:05.840 --> 02:33:09.680
only these DDT guys that are running
that way. The rest of Japanese wrestling

2567
02:33:09.760 --> 02:33:13.360
has a very different tone that is
entertaining in its own way, but it's

2568
02:33:13.399 --> 02:33:18.479
it's not It is not dudes doing
fucking hip tosses with their dicks or you

2569
02:33:18.600 --> 02:33:22.440
know whatever. It is super serious. Yeah, it's all seriously about.

2570
02:33:22.799 --> 02:33:28.280
They have strong style where they are
hitting each other much harder than typically do

2571
02:33:28.399 --> 02:33:31.559
in the US, like literally physically
harder, Like they're actually beating the shit

2572
02:33:31.559 --> 02:33:33.079
out of each other, not necessarily
beating the shit out of each other,

2573
02:33:33.440 --> 02:33:37.520
you know. I mean the hits
are look a lot stronger. Well,

2574
02:33:37.520 --> 02:33:39.959
i mean it's more realistic, you
know. Fuck, like, even even

2575
02:33:39.040 --> 02:33:43.719
if you're taking that, you know, knowing it's coming, like you're still

2576
02:33:43.040 --> 02:33:46.399
getting welts, you're still coming out
of Well, my understanding of even American

2577
02:33:46.440 --> 02:33:50.399
wrestling was that, you know,
like, oh, you know, if

2578
02:33:50.440 --> 02:33:52.399
it's all fake kind of stuff.
Aside, so many people out injured right

2579
02:33:52.440 --> 02:33:56.239
now. That's what I'm saying,
like, like aside from that whole thing,

2580
02:33:56.399 --> 02:33:58.879
like even faking it, like you're
gonna take some knocks there are.

2581
02:34:00.120 --> 02:34:03.680
There is a reason why so many
wrestlers of the eighties got hooked on pain

2582
02:34:03.799 --> 02:34:07.520
killers. Yeah. Yeah, Also, Joey Ryan is one of the guys

2583
02:34:07.520 --> 02:34:11.879
I'm scheduled to manage. I will
try to change it to all penis based

2584
02:34:11.920 --> 02:34:13.120
off, so I'll have to chat
with them about that. All right.

2585
02:34:13.639 --> 02:34:18.200
I didn't even know about that.
Good to know, all right. Last

2586
02:34:18.239 --> 02:34:20.600
email, this actually came from the
stack of tumbler questions I got that I

2587
02:34:20.680 --> 02:34:26.479
solicited last week when they emails down. So it's anonymous, fuck Mary Kill,

2588
02:34:26.680 --> 02:34:31.840
anymous Solid Snake, Karragan, the
Queen of Blades, Sonic the Hedgehog.

2589
02:34:33.479 --> 02:34:35.239
Yeah, fuck Sonic the Hedgehog.
Wait, Aretty, sure about this?

2590
02:34:37.680 --> 02:34:41.079
What do you mean? This is
it? It's pretty easy, you

2591
02:34:41.200 --> 02:34:43.799
think, is it? Fox?
Mary Kill? Yeah? What's your answer?

2592
02:34:43.920 --> 02:34:46.319
I haven't done that touch So it's
as simple as it sounds. Right,

2593
02:34:46.399 --> 02:34:50.639
Yet you pick one for each?
Yeah, well, I guess Karragan,

2594
02:34:50.719 --> 02:35:01.799
Snake, Sonic, fuck Sonic the
heg Yeah. Yeah, huh,

2595
02:35:03.559 --> 02:35:07.360
I's so spiny though, No,
no, no, you misunderstand. No,

2596
02:35:07.520 --> 02:35:11.079
I know, I know, I
have no answer to this question.

2597
02:35:11.319 --> 02:35:13.079
Yeah, all right, maybe maybe
it's best we just back away from this

2598
02:35:13.159 --> 02:35:16.159
one. All right. BombCast a
giant bomb dot com. You can send

2599
02:35:16.239 --> 02:35:22.559
emails there. Plus I thought about
opening that tumbler up some plus uh permanently,

2600
02:35:22.239 --> 02:35:26.239
Yeah, because careful. I also
had anonymous questions turned on. So

2601
02:35:26.360 --> 02:35:30.600
it just led to a whole bunch
of real, real weird anonymous drive by

2602
02:35:30.639 --> 02:35:33.159
shit. You know, you tell
people just loaded the form up you can

2603
02:35:33.200 --> 02:35:35.840
turn off anonymous questions. Yeah,
yeah, it's like the best thing about

2604
02:35:35.840 --> 02:35:39.120
Tumbler. Oh yeah, yeah.
I realized after about a week of having

2605
02:35:39.120 --> 02:35:41.760
anonymous stuff back on why I had
turned it off in the first place.

2606
02:35:41.000 --> 02:35:46.559
But I don't know, we should
maybe look into that. It just led

2607
02:35:46.639 --> 02:35:50.440
to a lot weirder, like quick
hit type shit. Yeah, coming through

2608
02:35:50.040 --> 02:35:54.239
dead drop emails, some real weird
stuff in there. Yeah, I bet

2609
02:35:54.319 --> 02:35:56.879
you it'll be exactly like you're a
Tumbler. It'll be a great idea for

2610
02:35:56.959 --> 02:36:00.879
the first Oh yeah, totally,
but so yeah, clearly, Uh,

2611
02:36:01.120 --> 02:36:03.559
some percentage of our audience does their
best work on Tumbler from the looks of

2612
02:36:03.600 --> 02:36:07.520
things. Uh, Danny, thanks
for being here. Thanks for finding me

2613
02:36:07.559 --> 02:36:09.879
man, Yeah, pleasures ever.
Really appreciate it. I'm looking forward to

2614
02:36:09.879 --> 02:36:13.479
all to your Game of Year podcasts. Yeah, when are they kicking off?

2615
02:36:15.000 --> 02:36:18.760
It's the between Christmas and New Year's
so the final day will be January

2616
02:36:18.879 --> 02:36:20.920
first, yes, but that week, that Friday will be the last day,

2617
02:36:22.000 --> 02:36:24.120
so that Monday the first day.
What do you guys got going on?

2618
02:36:24.200 --> 02:36:26.559
You've got anything you want to plug
while you're here? Yeah, I

2619
02:36:26.600 --> 02:36:30.159
don't know. We got the lobby
on the on the c NET stage tomorrow.

2620
02:36:30.200 --> 02:36:33.639
That's gonna be a fucking nightmare.
Wait what Yeah, studio right today?

2621
02:36:33.840 --> 02:36:35.920
But what is this? Where is
what? What? And where is

2622
02:36:37.000 --> 02:36:39.159
the s NET stage? Apparently it's
got a city view on the sixth's yere

2623
02:36:39.200 --> 02:36:43.120
on sixth Oh wow, studio where
we used to shoot let's game spot.

2624
02:36:43.120 --> 02:36:45.719
Oh shit, that's cool. Yeah
we shot in there for a while.

2625
02:36:45.799 --> 02:36:48.120
Cool. Yeah, probably got all
that game it to your stuff's going up.

2626
02:36:48.159 --> 02:36:52.920
We've it's already started with some oh
wow likely well like it's not the

2627
02:36:52.959 --> 02:36:54.760
actual Game of the Year stuff,
but like that's going to start this week.

2628
02:36:56.399 --> 02:36:58.600
When do you guys post your stuff? I think it's uh, I

2629
02:36:58.639 --> 02:37:01.200
think the actual Game of year is
going to be on the closer to like

2630
02:37:01.239 --> 02:37:03.120
two days before Christmas. Something that
all starts on the seventeenth, I think

2631
02:37:03.200 --> 02:37:07.639
is the Top twenty five list.
We've literally like listed what we think of

2632
02:37:07.680 --> 02:37:09.280
the top twenty five games of the
year, and they're gonna do them in

2633
02:37:09.600 --> 02:37:13.600
five, like twenty five all the
way down to it's the number one.

2634
02:37:13.680 --> 02:37:16.799
Man, if we didn't have to
do if we didn't cut ours to a

2635
02:37:16.879 --> 02:37:18.680
ten, that would have been an
easier list to do. Yeah, it

2636
02:37:18.719 --> 02:37:20.799
would have fully crap. Everybody would
have gotten what they wanted. Ten is

2637
02:37:20.840 --> 02:37:26.239
a savage list twenty five, especially
this year for sure last year, last

2638
02:37:26.319 --> 02:37:28.719
year, it was a savage for
the ops of reason, Yeah, that's

2639
02:37:28.760 --> 02:37:31.040
true. Did we always put stuff
up that earlier when we were off GameSpot

2640
02:37:31.159 --> 02:37:35.319
No, there was like there was
this weird arms race to go earlier.

2641
02:37:35.520 --> 02:37:37.920
Yeah, there was this like this
weird feeling of like, oh, can

2642
02:37:37.920 --> 02:37:41.719
we get it up before im They
started super early, those fuckers. Oh

2643
02:37:41.319 --> 02:37:43.959
yeah, you know, there's there
was like a weird it's like game of

2644
02:37:43.959 --> 02:37:46.319
the year season now. Yeah,
it's like, oh, we're gonna do

2645
02:37:46.639 --> 02:37:50.120
you know, here are our platform
report cards on how we you did this

2646
02:37:50.319 --> 02:37:52.520
year? It's all like sort of
mixed into it. You know. So

2647
02:37:52.600 --> 02:37:56.040
does a bunch of that stuff up
on games what dot coom already? It's

2648
02:37:56.079 --> 02:37:58.959
cool. Yeah. So if you
had just had a double agent who had

2649
02:38:00.000 --> 02:38:03.760
infiltrated IGN and could send you by
shortwave the date that they were going to

2650
02:38:03.840 --> 02:38:05.600
start posting, all right, I
mean everyone sho. You know, it's

2651
02:38:05.639 --> 02:38:09.719
the same street and there's only so
many bars at this point you just ask

2652
02:38:09.840 --> 02:38:13.040
no, I'm talking about I'm talking
about ten, ten to fifteen years ago,

2653
02:38:13.200 --> 02:38:16.719
right, But also they were they
were not down the street back then,

2654
02:38:16.319 --> 02:38:20.799
right, they were across the bay. Yeah. Uh man, you

2655
02:38:20.879 --> 02:38:24.799
gotta watch that ship. Like the
short wave stuff is a literal number station

2656
02:38:24.920 --> 02:38:26.760
yea. Like literally it was just
a voice reading numbers of a short wave

2657
02:38:26.799 --> 02:38:30.760
and he had to sit there and
spend hours transcribing the numbers and through their

2658
02:38:30.760 --> 02:38:35.399
cipher. You should download the Conet
Project. It's four CDs of actual numbers

2659
02:38:35.399 --> 02:38:39.520
station recordings from the era and beyond. Some of those are still broadcasting now.

2660
02:38:39.719 --> 02:38:45.280
It's on our cave dot org.
You just uh, they may have

2661
02:38:45.360 --> 02:38:50.959
actually done a limited them. Yeah
alright, man, you should download those

2662
02:38:50.000 --> 02:38:52.520
and listen to them while you try
to fall asleep if you want to have

2663
02:38:52.680 --> 02:38:56.639
spy nightmares. Wait, are they
reading the numbers in Russian? Some of

2664
02:38:56.680 --> 02:39:00.680
them are reading them in foreign languages. It's oftentime. It's like the NATO

2665
02:39:00.680 --> 02:39:05.920
alphabet and numbers, and but they're
all playing little sings, little little jingles

2666
02:39:05.000 --> 02:39:07.840
to signify that you're on the right
station before they start reading the numbers.

2667
02:39:07.920 --> 02:39:11.920
And then it reprograms you in your
sleep and you wake up and your sleeper

2668
02:39:11.959 --> 02:39:15.159
says agent activated. You're activated.
Work great for me, man, all

2669
02:39:15.239 --> 02:39:18.360
right, I'll get on that.
All right, Well, let's get that

2670
02:39:18.360 --> 02:39:22.159
all out of here. Then,
thanks for listening. We will ramp our

2671
02:39:22.239 --> 02:39:26.440
production stuff back up here as best
we can. Yeah, look for some

2672
02:39:26.600 --> 02:39:28.040
stuff for stuff to show up in
the mail at this point. Yeah,

2673
02:39:28.120 --> 02:39:31.799
but yeah, we're getting there.
Yep. All right, uh yeah,

2674
02:39:31.840 --> 02:39:35.479
thanks for listening. We will be
back next week with another edition of the Giant Bodcast