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Cabana today is in the series of a celebration of me An NBC's The Young
Rock, which you can watch right now if you have Hulu, Episode eight,
season two, from what I hear, the best episode of the show
so far, A true throwback. When I got the job to play Brooklyn
Brawler, I had never seen the show. I don't know why. For
some reason, I was just like, yeah, I don't know. I
don't I don't think I'm gonna watch this show. I don't know why.
I love wrestling, I love throwback wrestling. I just didn't watch it.
And I got a text from Peter Rosenberg who was like telling me how great
this show is, how we can't believe every single mainstream wrestling fan doesn't watch
this show. And I agreed with Peter because I feel I was that person
who loved wrestling and wasn't watching it, and then I watched it and I
was like, holy shit, this is the best random cameos from people playing
Jeff Jarrett, Greg the Hammer, Valentine, the wild Samoans Haku, Sergeant
Slaughter, so on and so forth, and they do justice to these characters.
That's the best part. Of course, it's not to the tea,
but there is a great detail that is put into by wrestling fanatics to make
sure the little details are included. And I recommend not only watching this episode,
but watching season two and the whole season. When I got the breakdown,
I was looking at all the different names being played Man Mountain, Mike,
Haystacks, Calhoun, Jake, the Snake, Roberts, just such a
weird variety of people from our world, our community. And of course one
of those people was the Brooklyn Brawler. He was the rocks very first match.
I remember getting the audition they call him sides in the business, getting
it from my agency's Stuart Talent. In my email, the call was for
young Rock to play Brooklyn Brawler, and I was just like, Wow,
I was meant to play this role. I've had the Brooklyn Brawler on this
show. This is a return by the Brooklyn Brawler, which isn't something that
happens a lot. Usually it's my really really good friends Sunjay's return, Kevin
Steen's returned, Jay Lethal's returned, and now the Brooklyn Brawler has returned,
And usually it's because there's a new point in their career. But this was
just so perfect that I did a very specific thing that was one based around
his very specific life. So I thought it would be fun to just kind
of really go through everything that I was going through in this part and kind
of seeing how he felt, who he was, what it was like with
that exact experience, and that's what we do in the podcast today Truth be
Told. I thought the episode was coming out in June or July because when
we filmed it it was named episode eleven. So I was doing the math
and I knew I could see the Brawler in Jersey this past weekend, surprise
him on air, and then bank the episode and put it out when my
episode came out. But I don't really know how Hollywood works, and it
ended up being episode eight instead of Episode eleven, but it was very close
to the episode. Last week, Chabo was on who was the stunt coordinator.
I did the show with him while in Australia, and now I got
to do the podcast instead of before the show, I get to do it
with him after the show to get his reaction, and of course his reactions
are fun. Brawler is a character, if you will, very lovable,
very affable, and fun to sit down with him. Now, some of
you remember my experience with the Brooklyn Brawler while in the WWE. Even a
couple of people tweeted about the Happy Bus. And for those of you who
don't remember or are not going to go back and listen to the past episode
I did with the Brooklyn Brawler. When I got to the WWE, I
wasn't pegged to be a giant superstar. I did not look like Sina,
I did not look like Batista. But the writers, the writers knew that
I was fun and funny and quickwitted and there was a hidden spot in WWE
where people like that could go, and that was AWWE dot com show.
So a couple of the writers got me a WWE dot com show. And
in the WWE, the Brooklyn Brawler is in charge of the promo room.
So we're crossing our fingers that in season three, when the Rock does his
promos, you will be seeing the Brooklyn Brawler in that promo room directing him
in the promos. But when I got there, I was not a star
at the time. I was coming from developmental. Brooklyn Brawler wasn't sure who
I was. I was just some kid who happened to be in his late
twenties and have been doing wrestling for a long long time internationally all over the
world at a very high level. But Brooklyn Brawler didn't know who I was.
And he was doing the web shows of people like John Cena, The
Mizzen Morrison and Crime Time. And then here's this guy, Scotty Goldman,
who the hell is Scotty Goldman? And Brawler was very protective and that was
his job. He was protective over that room. To him, the room
was sacred, and here was this nobody coming in and trying to do jokes
and making a little show. And he had a lot of negative energy towards
me because this was out of his element. This was different. This wasn't
a superstar. This was some no name in the WWE world, And I
think to a lesser person it could have really hurt their confidence and I'll be
honest, it probably did hurt my confidence. I didn't have this guy on
my side, not necessarily berating, but close to it. And a couple
of weeks later, after a couple of weeks of negative energy towards myself,
I went to Brawler and I said to him, I'm a human. I'm
trying to make my bark in this company. This is my one shot.
I have a mortgage payment, I have a family, which I mean I
did have a family, but I didn't have like a real family. But
I did that for dramatic purposes. And I said you could either jump on
the happy bus or the sad bus, a speech told by Red Basteen told
to Landi Pafo that I was told. And then the next week Brooklyn Brawler
came to me and he apologized. He said I hit him in the heart.
And in this podcast I do with the Brawler, he makes a statement
that people only see the wrestlers, not the person. And I think I
got him to see the person me instead of the wrestler, some random guy
coming up from developmental And ever since then we've had a very nice relationship and
I invite him on my show today. This is not an hour long episode,
but it is a fun talk. We go over basically everything that happened
in my episode, and you can hear the excitement and the Brooklyn Brawler for
me gold Cabana playing him on NBC's The Young Rock. We're gonna take a
quick little break and we'll be back with the Brooklyn Brawler. Really we watch
the Lawyer ye grow, yeah, of course, and uh and some other
seven bucks. I said, well, what's your reason for this call?
He said, it's a courtesy. What's for a while? Yeah? Yeah,
for the last five y five years or so? How many would you
take a lot of cakes to the wat ship we can talking about on the
show. Yeah, ask me all the questions on the shows here, all
right, this is good, Okay, all right, Steve ask away,
you have a lot of questions. Yeah. I think it was really cool
for the fact that you played me in Young Rock. You do a tremendous
job. You looked more like me than me. I've made every so everybody
on the set, there's so much. It was such a fun experience for
me. It was seven weeks in Australia. I was out there with all
these people that you wrestled with and worked with. I was there with actors
my age playing them at you know, in their youth, and so everyone
was like trying to call and talk to the person that they played, right,
all these actors wondering while well, I was thinking to myself, I
was like, I could call him, and you know, these actors are
are like, hey, I want to just get your mannerisms. I want
to know who you know, how you would speak. And it's like I've
worked with Brawler. I did podcast with Brawler. I know Brawl, I
know how he worked, I know how how he acts, who he is
is he tried a little cocky. I like when I like when you pulled
over in a car and you said, and you said, uh, sold
out fifteen thousand people. Real good, first try out match, fifteen thousand
people. It's true. It was true. Everything that happened was almost verbatim.
Well that's what I want to get into, but I did. I
wanted to make it a surprise. I wanted I almost in my head because
I assumed you thought that just an actor would be playing That's what I thought
originally, Yeah, which I am. Don't don't get me wrong, now
you are, so I thought it would be so funny if you turned on
the TV and you're like, no, it never happened, because I would
have known it. I wouldn't know. I have connections with Universal, and
I have connections with Brian. I call Rock personally, right. I didn't
do it, but I never knew what fandango to me fan dango, I
stooge out, I stooge out. He was sitting next to me, one
of those signs. He just says, you know, cults playing you young
Rock. I said, really, okay, I didn't think nothing of it.
I was trying to take a resemblance because I always remember you clean shade,
you know, more of a haha guy. Yes, I was a
serious, fucking hard nose hooking. First impression you saw me on the screen,
Yeah, what do you think? I thought, that's a fucking close
likeness. My wife said, wow, what great casting. My sister textually,
that is good casting, you know what I mean? It was it
resemblance because of a hat. You know, in the shirt, you hide,
your body, you hide you know all this shit. It's easier to
portray someone. And I think my what I wanted to do with like my
face was to always kind of like scrunch up. That was my way of
scrunch of getting in brawler mode. I think when you because you were you
were a hard nosed, mean heel, so like the idea of like squshing
your face and be like ask hear you you all suck. But even I'm
yes, yeah, but not in real life, right, But I feel
that that show The Young Rock and I don't know if you've seen any of
the other episode, you know, it's like Sergeant Slaughter when he's having lunch.
She's dressed like Sergeant Slaughter. It's kind of you're playing the cartoon character.
It's like I always I'm always dressed. You're always always You know what's
funny is we had a because people would tweet me and they're like, oh,
well the shirt needs to be dirty year. But we had a shirt
going to the ring, and if you noticed, when I wrestled, it
was a sweatshirt that was the same thing. No one should b b browlo
right. I once said that was my casual gear going to the show,
and the other one was the wrestling. Yes, yeah, this was about
the Rocks first match. I think we might have talked about your first match
in the podcast that we did years ago, but maybe a reminder as we
started, I kind of want to get into the dissection of the show and
then just the parallels that go with the show and what happens in your life.
So what was your first match and your first was Your first match was
a WWF match, right, No, my first match ever was Enough Salem,
Oregon against Curdhanding. Curred Handing had come into WWF and Vince said he
had to leave and come back because he didn't look like he looked when we
knew mister perfect. He looked cutting from the happy day. People don't even
know that no more. But he told me, fly down here. He
goes and challenge I'll challenge anybody of the audience. You stand up. I
flew down here and went to his house. He said to me. I
said, I'd never been in the ring of my life. He says,
just grab a headlock and hang on. That's all you gotta do is hang
on. That was a fact that was hard to do. Just like that,
the way he's foot flopping, foot flipping around. He dragged his body
outside, he grabbed the barricade, he started bringing them into the ring.
Just holding on. Didn't give me a bell a belly the back and then
for the rest of my my life, he's making fun of me. I
give you a simple belly to back beaches like nothing. I mean, now,
this wasn't WWF No, no, just an indie show. Wasn't indie
then? Damn? My first match was with what the hell was his name?
The guy with the change hercules? No, no, no, no,
no, uh, I can't remember a Russian? Yeah, kind of
a riving coal that's it. Yep. First, right, so your first
match in WWF Ivan Ivan Cola. Did anybody pick you up from the airport
and take it to the show? No, I didn't have me. I
just got there. Yeah, I just got there. No. St.
Jones was before, I haven't that was That was WF house match. I
froze in a ring. But you know what it's like your first time.
But your first match was SD Jones and show No first pritch was Kurt in
Oregon WF show. Yes, was s G Jones then first. So this
is a line that was cut out from the show. They did a lot
of editing, right, Yeah, they did entertain one about me and my
first match. Well, he there was a line we got cut out.
So if you noticed when we're driving up and it says like Steve Lombardi and
it shows the things. Uh I was talking. Well, that was dialogue
for the show, and the line was my first match was against an Albanian
strongman and his farm horse, which it's shit line just for I'm glad to
cut that one done for comedic purposes. The next line was that also got
cut which Rock ended up doing the voiceover for, was you know I broke
your father into the WWF two And then I would say I'm kind of like
the Johnson Whisperer, which I thought was a great lone. Yeah, got
that got cut out. Rock did the voice over for it. So you
had rockies Johnson's that's correct. Yeah. I had his first w he was
he was eight years ago. Then he came back to him another chance and
he I had his first WWF match back as a single, and I wasn't
is there anything memorable or just a match? No, it was memorable,
but Rock scared of shit out of me because I knew him since he was
young. I knew him was a little kid like in a dressing room when
Rock he was in his first time a long time ago, and you never
would have guessed the skinny kid would like a like a little bit of an
Afro type thing, and I never would have guessed in a million years.
Even when I wrestled him, I thought it was a jock. You know,
I wrestled a million bodybuillers, a million football players. I liked him,
I knew him, but I just didn't feel it. You know,
I did the actual match itself. I didn't feel that a guy could go
in at his first match his whole career in front of an audience, in
front of fifteen thousand people. I thought that that was I would making me
look bad. That's that's what I thought. Interesting, And okay, I
want to get into the match. In a second, I did have a
question about other kids wrestlers, so it's kind of which is based up on
the question I was about to ask. You kind of said like I wrestled
all the body billards and all the jocks. But when I was thinking about
it was just like because I did a podcast with UM last week with Chavo,
and he was talking about Gene Kaninski's kid, who I'm sure got to
try out in WWF, And there I'm sure Greg Ganya got to try out
in the w and even David Sam Martino like, were you did you did
you wrestle these guys? Yeah, well, David, I wrestled the tag
with Bruno. That was Bruno's last match. Yeah, because Vincent he was
doing a commentating with commentation with Bruno and Bruno want you to have one more?
You could be the Babe Ruth of the company. He goes, I
would only do a match if I could be with Stephen Buddy because he's not
really he's not greedy, and he takes Sherry in the ring. He's convincing.
That's what he said. What a compliment he told me every time I
want to wear an autograph thing with him, Yeah, always always boarded up.
And then I mean that kind of goes with the show. Is Michael
Hayes goes, you know Brawler will take carrying general in general. Yeah,
ring General, which again another they would would he would never say, I
realized, but Hunter was on on on the nose as far as you know
when he came in except for the nose for except for these, but he
was he was over confident, and you see the jealousy between him and Allston
about Rock. They didn't pop until I had him. You had him in
the headlock. I see me, me and you are a shape person.
We hadn't been a headline. You said, just give a shit about you,
you know what I mean, just lay here. He took his eyes
and I did shit like that. If the people come up with you like
that, you're getting they're believing you. And that's what he's fallen toward him
in the show, you know what I mean. It's not the move,
it's making them believe it. You know, I watched a bunch of brawler
matches before I did it. But it's like, I know, I don't
know. I've been watching you since I was a kid. It's I felt
I was like born to play this role. It's it's crazy who calls you
up? Who who got you the gig? So I have an agent,
I'm a working actor. They put it out there. You know. I
did the audition, and after I did the audition, I'm just like,
I mean, if ever there was a role for me, an actor,
an eighties wrestler, you know, the guy I know like actually doing the
wrestling. So I sent my audition and through my agents, and then after
it went through, I called up Chavo and I said, hey, man,
I'm auditioning for this show, you know, wrestling phone book, like
you know any you know, like if there's anything you could say, I
would appreciate it. And he knew that this first match he needed a wrestler
for this part. And so that's kind of, you know, they launched
my audition. I think my audition was very good. Yeah, and so
you know, same as the acting on the show, which I think is
passable, if not good. And so yeah, I got the part and
I got to play you, and I think it's important that I was a
wrestler. And I was like, well, I'm gonna be the only rescue
I would have been. I would look like shit, you would have looked
because I don't know if you've seen some of the other Yeah, but they
do a great job of like, okay, cut quick, because it's not
I think I put a sequence together. I'd like the beginning when you came
in and you kicked him into the stomach and then you fucking zac move I
would do, which is the overhand club. Yeah, and I was kind
of like it was gonna look stiff. I was barking a little bit like
Iron Mike Sharp in my head, but I feel you would do the same
kind of barking, like making the noise, and I would do like you
did too, and turn around and say, oh the man, Yeah,
the man. You know. So let's take let's take it through. Did
you pick him up from the airport? No? Did you drive him to
the show? Yes? And turned How did that work? How did that
day work? Do you remember Corpus Chrispy Corpus, Chrispy Christie Christie Christie Corpus
Christy. Uh, I knew I was wrestling him like a week before,
and uh Bruno Harvey Wooferman, we were traveling together and they were close friends
because you see a new episode instead of coming out and he drove he came
picking me up on that land and drove me to Dwayne's room. And I
seen him. He was impressive looking, but it was he looked big.
He looked like he would be clumsy like Clidale. You know. He just
don't look like he would have the agility that he had, you know.
And then when I when I gave him, gave him all the spots.
So yeah, yeah, then if you read his first book, he says,
yeah, what Steve Lebardi gave me my first my first match. I
wrote all the spots down on a napkin. I went in the corner and
I memorized him. He says, because he over confident, over scared.
You know what I mean when you say I gave him all the spots.
I said, you knew it, did drive it in the addressement, Okay,
can you do this? Can you do that? Can you do this?
Can you do that? So you did drive? You picked him up
from his hotel, and you guys just drove and you don't remember anything about
that? There, no, no, but what I didn't drive him because
I hate driving. Oh Bruno drove, Bruno drove. Oh no, Bruno
picked me up and then he drove me in Rock to the Okay, there
you go information. We didn't know it's Hollywood, but it's ninety eight percent
accurate. Ninety eight percent accurate. Okay. So then you guys get to
the arena in the show, I introduced the Rock to Michael Hayes. I'm
assuming maybe that's not accurate. You do you remember if you as you come
Michael Hayes knew he was coming in. They well, everyone knew he was
coming in, and uh, basically They made it sound like it was my
decision to put him over. It was their decision had over. Yeah,
because you know how it works. Yeah, and if I would have walked
in the room and slaps a Bundy chest said good work, he goes,
how do you know? Because the butcher get the fuck out, you know
what I mean? He didn't. I didn't get the respect like like they
gave me in the series. Maybe look like, what's calling me a ring
general? You know what? To ring general? That's a big statement.
Yeah, of course, old statement. I believe it though. Yeah,
I gotta be a ring general tonight mostly tonight. Yeah, general will not
get hurt. But back then, Steve will do that. Steve will do
it, Steve will do anything. Of course. I had everybody's first had
Mark Henry's first match. I had a huge Steambo's first match. I had
Bret Hodts first match in ww F. I had Owen Haughts first match in
WWF. I mean there's so many I leave I leave some out. The
shows are add free over on Patreon. Let's take a quick break. We'll
be right back. So when you're ready to go to the ring for this
match with the Rock, do you remember his nerves. Are you nervous?
He's he was nervous. He walked out. You could drop a pin.
You would have heard it. Didn't know who he was. It was very
accurate what he said, Who the hell are you go back to my alley?
That was accurate. Yeah, they were. They were really giving it
to him, and you can can you remember when they dropped the pin?
What do you say to yourself? Like, fuck, I'm gonna have to
work hard tonight. What do you say to yourself? I say to yourself.
I know I want to get booed. Okay, as soon as I
came out, I got a boo boo because I was established, right,
And that was the fun part of the show too, is the director.
That was like, as the director was saying, like, listen, Brawler
is going to get a reaction because he's an established person. They know who
he is, and Rocky's gonna get absolutely nothing right Yeah right he didn't,
Yeah he didn't. And then after that, after you started hitting the moves,
I knew he wasn't ready, but I knew he had it. I
knew he had it, and you called that whole match the leap frog was
a double leap frog. Right. What I'm saying when you sat down the
locker room and you were talking about your matches, you called the whole thing.
Yeah, and he wrote it all down and he didn't tell me you
wrote it down but not but like an agent wasn't like, hey do this.
This wasn't like that. Business was different six minutes whatever sport, whatever
it was. And he uh, I told him, I says, and
if the first spot doesn't work, we're not going into second. You're like,
in other words, you'll do spot a spot, be spot spots.
Grabbed the whole one. I grabbed the hold. That's what That's what built
them, you know what I mean. And him convincing the people that it's
really hurt. The only thing that it was a little air between your arm,
your your you know, you know what I mean. Yes, but
you you were told that No I could see as a wrestler, Yeah I
could see it. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm gonna tell you is we
we I did that chin lock for about a half hour. A wrestler isn't
the editor, so they're just grabbing it one so they don't know they're grabbing
two. And I'm looking at that right, they're great, right, we
look at that because we obsess about that. So you missed the other twenty
nine minutes and forty seconds, you know, but you get it. You
totally get it. I saw it right away. Of course. I was
like, that was the one second I let go with my arm with my
hand to probably be like shut up or something. Yeah, yeah, I
said the same thing. I said the same thing. Yeah, And uh,
how was the kid to work with? Great? Really? He's I
mean, he's a natural. I say this like if you're gonna put stock
in somebody, like if you could buy stock uli stock. Yeah, he's
going to be a star. He's giant, he's athletic, He's maybe the
nicest person I've ever met in my life, so humble, so great,
treats everybody so well, which is so fun because he's portraying the rock who
has that reputation also right right, yeah, so he could launch his career.
Of course. Of course we're hoping, we're hoping. You finished the
match. Did you lose? Did you lose? By said Philip, No,
I lost my small package. Afterwards you come to the back, well
afterwards, are you like, no, what are your reactions of that match?
As it was good? It was actually good mechanical match. People popped
at the end, People got with him a little bit at the end.
We went to dinner. Where'd you go? We went to I fear it
was out back or something like that, but we went to dinner and he's
he goes, I was not happy. I'm not happy. He got a
contract two days later, a big well, big for then. But he
goes, I'm not happy. I said, shut your fucking mouth. I
says, you're not happy. You don't know who you are, No one
knows who you are. You get it's a good contract. So what was
his main unhappiness? He wanted to be great right away, right away,
right away. He wanted to be great. So it wasn't It wasn't that
he didn't think his moves did well. Or was it that the crowd wasn't
with him. He thought the crowd was gonna go crazy when he walked out.
You know, you know what we got him over? This is what
got him over. Yeah, it would hating him the whole time. They
turned the people turn them hell as soon as he came out there. Rocky
sucks. Rocky sucks. Rocky sucks. But he would go through his match
have his match, and it would affect the reaction because the people you feed,
all the people he come back, he goes, why do you keep
saying Rocky sucks? Rocky sucks. The thing that did it is when he
walked out one day, he goes, you know, all your people you
keep, all you say is Rocky sucks. Rocky sucks. You know.
All I can say to you is it doesn't matter what you people think.
We love you. We love you. They insulting us. We love you.
Always had to give the game, you know when you said you said
that one line to Hunter, you said, I had to turn. I
came sideways, just stick it up here and in mankind comes and fucks with
your head, you know what I mean. He had It's like telling the
people he has it in him because he always said, I'll turn the sideways
and shove it up your candy ass, you know what I mean. And
that was his line. But he had it before you had it, you
know. So, but it was a trip to watch. My wife was
going, Oh my god, so many memories, so many memories, like
you know, because she was there for all that is that right? Yeah?
It was. It was early in my career. Yeah, well that's
I mean, what a fun I mean, any other last takes of the
show, or how I did or did you did good? How was the
accent? The accent was good? You you look more like me than me
because I haven't had the beard in years and years you didn't didn't have a
beard. Now we've switched. We switched. Yes, so I think you
vicariously a living through me now, exactly for sure. I tried to get
the cigar, but for some reason, they like, I never never live
it. I know, I wanted as a prop to break in my audition.
I had a cigar. They never had one. And then I did
try to get them to dirty up the stuff a little bit, but they
didn't seem to care about that. And I was like, all right,
but oh h here's something with um with wardrobe, and there in their mind
and in a Hollywood wardrobe mind, they're like, someone made these outfits for
you when you were in the eighties that bore them and fucking stores in Brooklyn,
sh that's what I imagine. And was it, yeah, tell me
it was a little. Was it a different shirt every town or was it
just like whenever you need my shirt? Three? It was most say,
well, that white one, that white one that's in a lot of bumbo
pictures. And the once you war came a little bit later. You were
after You were after Bobby Heening. Yes, yeah, you were after him
because they would have never let him beat me. The wardrobe was just bought.
I would something that I would buy them, and I would. Actually
the way I got dirty was we were in Hershey, Pennsylvania. Bobby Heenon
was I just first became book. Bobby Heena took me in the back.
He made me roll around dirt, He made me rolling around the mud,
and I said to Bobby, Bobby, what the hell are you doing?
He goes, was it be a grungy wrestler from Brooklyn? And my mom
mother goes, you made me look like a really bad mother. I like,
I don't clean you clothe? Losing it? Oh yeah, who do
you get a nice clean haircut? And going like accountant, the brook accountant.
You know you have mothers are yeah? You know? I mean mine
wanted me to be like, yeah, it'd be like the Hebrew hunk she
was. Yet they don't, they don't get it. You'll tell them what
you're gonna be, right, they tell you what you be. And then
you told me that the Yeah, the Rock you heard from him before you
were on this show, before you were portrayed. Rock always kept in touch,
like through tweets and shit like that. And and I knew two other
actors on the show that you were leaked, but not me because the idea
that the idea that brotherer was on the show written into the show. They
told me that. They told me not to say nothing. But then when
you when Van Nagel told me, yeah, I'm like, what the fuck?
So and so you've been anticipating that because I know that Ryan who played
Bruno, was like, you know, Bruno so excited and he's loving it.
Yeah, and so I know you talked to Bruno's absolutely wrong. The
real story where Bruno bought him the car, not the pizza guy. Yeah,
yeah, it's so much better than the pizza guy. It's so much
And Brutal never cooked dames on the toilet, He never cooked days for a
comedy. It's a guy. But he's gonna get He's gonna get a lot
of rub now because Ulic she had to end of it, welcome home.
Yeah, yeah, he he only last a day or two brutal lives in
a trailer and it was all run down, filthy, fucking, dirty,
fucking and Rock had like a millionaires a mine in a poor man's body,
you know what I mean. I said to him, if you've got only
seven analogies so poor, how do you have a five hundred dollars shirt on.
I didn't know he was stealing all this shit, you know, Yeah,
that comes out in the show. It comes out in the show,
and he admits it all. But he was always always trying to shop,
always did and he and it all caught up to him because he's there now,
right. Every single person was so jealous when he started getting over.
It's like one day, like this is a funny story. I was sitting
on one of the boxes in the back with razors going rest of Soul and
uh, ten guys will hint ten new wrestlers and it will all powerdoid anybody
those little boys running around the powerdoids in the spot the Booklyn Bowl turned to
me and said, just wore guys for me to put over. You know,
he goes, he gets it. You know, that's a true story.
Always he always brought it up. But longevity in the job just an
analogy of both the way things work. People see the wrestler, they will
see the person. You know. Of course that's the thing. Now today
today I'm wrestling again. Yeah, which I said I'll never wrestle again.
Well, I hate to tell you, a buddy, but we're gonna be
on the road. We're tagging up as the Brooklyn Brawlers. I'm gonna hold
you me. It just turned forty two yesterday. Okay, when I wrestled
Rocker was thirty seven. I believe. There you go, so it was
closer. Yeah, they did the sheet did call for a wrestler in their
thirties. Yeah, but I made I made the cut. Yeah, thirty
seven, I was. But I can't see. I listen. We're we'll
ride it for a little bit. The Brooklyn Brawlers will run, and then
our run will be over. You know what if we did do we draw?
I think so we should do some conventions together. It's only meant to
be. But problems like I don't know what white original stuff boots choose.
Did you sell those old shirts or just throw them out? Hold them?
Yeah? I sold them. It's part of being a wrestler. Yeah,
I know. But then you regret it later, right, I didn't need
that two hundred bucks that much, all the baseball cards and I just kid
mom total, we don't need to junk around it. Probably wrote so much
money, all this stuff that wrestling magazine of course, well stuff. You
can't think about that kind of stuff. Brawler, thanks so much. Thank
you for portraying me in such a positive matter and doing a good job at
it. And you really did. You shocked the shit out of me.
You really did. You really did. It was my play. I would
give you a total thumb up for that defence. Would asked me how I
thought you did. And that means the world to me. Everybody. So
I got like fifty two texts all saying what did your good job? You
did? It's insane. That makes me feel happy that I that I did
do some justice. Well the writers did be justice. Yeah. They made
me sound a lot more important than I was. You're You're very important.
I'm important to the right people, people like know the business. You're important
to me because you got me paid very well. Good. I appreciate it.
Good. The Brooklyn Brawler is on Twitter and Instagram at brawler Reel.
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yeah, yeah yeah, thanks And you know the last way tonight, right
you got right. Yeah, you call that right must in the eleven experience,
I love the whole match and building any night was the flying person of
the second rod breach too. He hits you. Well, yeah that was
your only all that time? Me then I didn't step up to it right.
Well, at least they cutting three no two. I'm sorry to Cocaban
playing me, dude. But he was pretty a funny, wasn't he.
He's great. I thought it was pretty funny that ha manatar. Yeah,
like that's great. You know, maybe we look really good night. Everybody
looks good a man o shit here, everybody coming through. I was looking
at Hine really good, pretty good left the wrestling campus were so loose.
He didn't make is that right? He was? He was expensive? I'm
sure. Oh okay, so how do you want to do? You want
to just uh just leave me all in? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
is there a little tough you've got the hand to from the bathroom. I
left a little puddle shot in my full water here wrestling in my mind you
call up wrestling with Luke. That's fucking like a high. This is my
second podcast with you. Well, I figured we had to do it.
I know, Well, any whether you became an actor and one day all
shows been listen, Steve, I'm I'm sag eligible, bro, I mean
I'm saying, I mean, ye, eligible for one year. I'm sorry,
I'm sag after we only got one episode, right, we don't got
fourteen. I got pig, I got I had a colleague guy behind me,
nice rocks. People don't pay. He'd been pit you right, yeah,
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or seven seven buck production. I think Universal your might was poke about a
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a three week hold from Australia. This happened up the pay chest chet for
this call. Yeah,