WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:05.240 Well, check check and check wall two. This is the two seventeen Recovery 2 00:00:05.559 --> 00:00:10.279 podcast with Corey Winfield, who knows as soon as he gives a tour he's 3 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:14.679 gonna give her his heart to her too, and we'll have kids and getting 4 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:23.519 married. That's too far. It is the twenty eighth of November twenty twenty 5 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:27.920 three. You might have Cory Winfield And this is the two seventeen Recovery podcast 6 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:32.119 Once to Get from the North Studio in Traverse City, Michigan. Very special 7 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:37.000 guests joining me today, and that man is Tyrone Hatcher. Mister Hatcher, 8 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:41.159 how are you doing today? Oh? Man, Well, I'm doing I 9 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:48.399 would say fabulous if I'm using somebody else trademark. Yeah, okay, well 10 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:52.159 I'm glad you're doing good. The applause was a little crazy, a little 11 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:56.719 late, but yeah and an abruptly end. Since time, I'm still working 12 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.200 on this new board that I have. But yeah, you didn't want to 13 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:04.640 say fulous that's fabulous thing. No, but you, uh, you treated 14 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:10.200 yourself to a nice little trip, a little recovery trip, and a lot 15 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:12.719 of people they want want to play this game, like where would Tyrone go? 16 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:18.439 Where would Tyrone go? On? Vacation to take a trip. Let's 17 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:26.159 wonder would he go to Florida? Nope? Would he go to California? 18 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:34.480 Mm hmm, No, would he go to Arizona? No? Oregon? 19 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.400 Yeah, you've been there before, but he didn't go there this Thanksgiving. 20 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:46.480 M Maybe he went to a cruise in Alaska. No, maybe you wanted 21 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:49.959 to go walk those hills that Winfields walked the summer in Seattle. No? 22 00:01:53.439 --> 00:02:00.640 What's Seattle? Chicago? No? Too cold? Where would Tyrone ben Harbor? 23 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:07.199 Oh? Man? No? No, when we give up that rone? 24 00:02:07.199 --> 00:02:14.439 Where did you go on your holiday to Vegas? I've never been to 25 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:17.960 Vegas? Have you been to Vegas? It's about my third time? Okay, 26 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:21.479 so they know you by name, like, oh, Tyrone's coming. 27 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:31.000 Oh well, but it's a it's a good getaway spot. Yeah, good 28 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:38.319 getaway spot. It's it's you have to be you. You have to keep 29 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:45.039 your sobriety and check out. Oh I bet, because it's very very loose. 30 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.599 You don't drink. You never really have, you know, so that's 31 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.840 something that probably doesn't bother. It's easy to say no too. It's like 32 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:54.319 I don't eat fish. Somebody's like, hey, you want this fish? 33 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:58.479 No? I don't eat fish, you know, But would you see other 34 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:00.840 drugs and other opportunities while you're out there though? Yes, like you knew, 35 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:04.560 Like if I watch up that dude or that woman, I could probably 36 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.680 get pointed in the right direction, if not handed something. It's a lot 37 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:10.560 of that wind. Feel. Temptations is anywhere you go, it's gonna be 38 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:19.360 temptation. Isn't that strip club out there? Numerous? Numerous? Sorry no, 39 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:22.680 so yeah, temptations are everywhere. So but you see the you knew, 40 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:29.360 yeah, I mean they come at you and you have to be ready 41 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:36.000 because you do the wrong thing. You can find yourself staying out there for 42 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:40.319 a while, find yourself out there under the You could be under the the 43 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:45.879 freeway. Did you see a lot of people under the freeway? Yes? 44 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:51.199 Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot a lot. But that does not 45 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:57.280 look comfortable. No, it don't look comfortable. And you know, I 46 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.400 had a couple of temptations. Well let me do this here. Maybe I 47 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:04.159 could get and say, oh look over there. No, no, came 48 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:08.960 too far for that. Came too far. I'm glad you came back then, 49 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:13.719 oh yeah, came back. What was the best part about the trip? 50 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:19.199 Uh? The best part about the trip was I met some my brother. 51 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:24.800 A couple of guys stayed down the street front me there, and they 52 00:04:24.920 --> 00:04:29.319 was from Seattle and they came down to Vegas and I met him down there 53 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:35.920 and we talked and talked about old times. And but it's awfully weird doing 54 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:41.240 Winfield. They wouldn't let me hang with them when they was in high school. 55 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:45.879 Yeah, I always had to go away. Well one thing, I 56 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:48.240 think I think I was like four years younger than them, you know, 57 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:51.720 so they didn't want me hanging around them. Man, I didn't once you 58 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:56.040 getting caught up in that hood rat stuff they were doing. Yeah, well 59 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:59.160 I probably would have told yeah, because my mom would have asked me. 60 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:02.079 I probably would have told and so and so they want me around, So 61 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:05.240 that's probably a good thing, you know. They were looking out for you, 62 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:11.480 at least they thought they were. Yeah. Yeah, everything went okay 63 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:16.800 though Winfield. Is How was the flight out because Thanksgiving? You want, 64 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:19.000 I left on Tuesday, which a couple of days four Thanksgiving me, but 65 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:23.279 right, it was still crowded. It was still crowded in there. It 66 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:30.199 was still crowded. What airline did you fly? I went Southwest? It 67 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.800 was Southwest okay, and they do the cattle call right where they just go, 68 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:38.480 hey, now jump on the plane. Yeah, everybody runs over there. 69 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:45.279 But but I came on with a Duffel bag. I don't own the 70 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:48.759 suitcase Winfield minimum Douffle bag. I used to have it there. I had 71 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:55.759 that. I's president. Do they check you extra insecurity and not? Really? 72 00:05:55.959 --> 00:06:00.199 Not really? Not really? It was so packed in there. Did 73 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:05.040 Yeah. I had to leave by a Metro airport. I didn't I could 74 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:11.319 have left Travis to Metro, but I just just drove one down. But 75 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:16.199 the shock was when I come back. I had on gym shoes. It's 76 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:20.800 snowing outside, and which can change while you were gone. It's winter now, 77 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:27.360 well what about that it's changed. Yeah, it did start snowing. 78 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:29.800 So that was aase. When you talked to me, you were just like, 79 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:32.720 man, that drive, Yeah, that was a rough drive. Yeah, 80 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:38.920 I I've never seen it like that. Windfield. You drive up, 81 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.319 it's a little dried in front of you go snow, snow, snow, 82 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:47.000 then storm. Yeah it's not fun. I'm just driving the snow. And 83 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:51.120 it's been a while since you driven in the snow, Yes, it has 84 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:55.800 been so I was like oh great, here we go. So I'm going 85 00:06:55.800 --> 00:07:00.439 out back from Vegas and I can't see the blind. I mean, those 86 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:02.959 snowstorms are no jokes sometimes and you can't see hardly anything in front of you. 87 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:08.199 Other people we had to worry about other people. I was telling Marnie 88 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:11.240 this the other day that I think I'm going to switch my profession up, 89 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:15.199 and I think this is going to help a lot of people in the world. 90 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:20.759 I think women will probably find it most useful my new profession. And 91 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:26.079 don't hate on me for wanting to change careers in the middle of the starting 92 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:30.439 something special, but just just thinking about it. But I think I'm gonna 93 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:34.959 open a driving school and teach people how to drive, because that sounds good. 94 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:39.560 I think it would help, It would help the earth, it would 95 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:44.920 help I just like helping people, you know, and driving is something that 96 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:47.120 they say is going away because we all have cars that will just program themselves, 97 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:51.279 which will be cool. But we're not there yet. So there's still 98 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:54.759 money to be made. There's still you know, like people I can help. 99 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:56.800 I mean, that's that's what I mean, like people I can help, 100 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:00.519 not money to be made that'll come. But I'm just saying you know, 101 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:03.720 and like just to help people drive. But that's just some some I'm 102 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:07.079 thrown out there. Some of them think about that's all right, mister Winfield, 103 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:11.800 all right, you give out rise. Yeah, I might as well 104 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:13.319 teach people how to drive too. Here you go, here you go. 105 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:20.680 Be gotten a lot of corries lately to people. So how was your weekend, 106 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:24.079 mister Winfield? Over the how today? It was good? We went 107 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:30.160 down state and you know, I did a little lunch with my dad, 108 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:37.720 We did Thanksgiving with my mom and outside of the family. And we haven't 109 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:43.799 really talked about too much about our personal life lately, but we got some 110 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:48.120 some things going on and good, thanks, good, you know, but 111 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:52.399 we'll talk about that as time at the time of our choosing. Okay, 112 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:56.600 so we're still waiting for that to come around. But oh yeah, there's 113 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:58.320 some stuff I'm gonna tell you off the podcast. And I hate to like 114 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:01.399 say that, like me, there's something I forgot to tell you that I'm 115 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.279 going to tell you off the podcast, because again, not everything is. 116 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:07.639 If it was just about my life, I wouldn't care. I would just 117 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:13.799 say it. But if it involves other people, sometimes i'd like to Yeah, 118 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.600 I'll not Clarby, I'm blast of. I'm apologize if you're listening right 119 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:20.240 now and you're like, that's not even fair, bro, Like, we 120 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:24.159 want to hear too. Trust me, you will hear about it one day 121 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:26.679 at the time of my choosing. So you just keep listening to every single 122 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:31.120 podcast we do, and I promise you you will catch it along the way. 123 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.120 But but yeah, so it was good to seeing family and stuff though. 124 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:37.879 But I know when you told me you were going to Vegas, I 125 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:43.720 was like, oh, he's getting married, and you're like, no, 126 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:48.240 when feeling like getting married, it was just the last second thing, you 127 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:54.879 know. It's sometimes you know, when you you're in recovery, sometimes you 128 00:09:54.960 --> 00:10:00.399 know you need space for yourself. It's good to go out and do things 129 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:03.440 because when I was on drugs, I never would have thought about going on 130 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.799 a vacation it matter. In fact, I wouldn't even have no money to 131 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:13.639 do anything with. So it's good. And like I said, you can't 132 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.279 take it with you can't take it with you win field, so you might 133 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:20.360 as well go and have some fun. That's right, that's right. Did 134 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:28.919 you win anything. I'm not really a gambler. I probably spent about no 135 00:10:28.039 --> 00:10:31.679 more than two hundred on the machines because I stayed out there like six days. 136 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:41.799 So got your ass, got your ass? Yeah, but I'm not 137 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:46.840 really No, I have scared of money, Winfield. I'm scared to gamble 138 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:48.879 my money. I'm scared to gamble it. I'd rather go and eat a 139 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.600 nice steak, like I don't know, Like, I'm so glad that I 140 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:58.120 never got the gambling bug or you know, been involved with that or come 141 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.200 across that addiction, because I could have easily, but my addiction to alcohol 142 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:05.799 was more important to me, and I couldn't couldn't even fathom losing twenty bucks. 143 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:07.399 Yeah, you know, because alcohol is what I needed. Yeah, 144 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:11.879 that's the next bottom. Yeah, And people know, if you've listened to 145 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:16.399 this podcast ever, that how I feel about And I'm sorry. I wasn't 146 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:22.080 crying there. I just know some of a throat. But but now how 147 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.200 I feel about it. And you know, I really feel for those people 148 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:28.240 who do have that disorder, and I want to do all we can to 149 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.639 help them. But you know, when when you go out there and a 150 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:35.320 lot of people go to Vegas and they do and at least you know, 151 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:37.440 you went and checked out and like you said, you're not into that, 152 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:41.759 you're not really into drinking, and and it's and it could be it could 153 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:46.120 be real tipping out there too, because I asked somebody. They they hit 154 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:50.639 a beverage in their hand and they say, it's illegal to walk down the 155 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:54.759 street, down down the strip. It's legal or illegal, it's legal, 156 00:11:54.840 --> 00:12:01.039 you can't do it. Well, aren't there women passing out their cards like, 157 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.440 hey, you want some Yeah, my vagina, here's my card. 158 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:07.559 Yeah. They have a lot of that going on there. And they don't 159 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:11.039 take cash, they take credit cards. Good thing you don't have any? 160 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:20.840 Oh you do have? They maxed out tyrone? Oh well, as I 161 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:24.799 spoke about the hard trying to find a like a nineteen twenty year old, 162 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:35.840 right, Mitch, calm down. Fabulous. Yeah, anyway, I guess 163 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:39.799 we's not go into details on that. Have you ever seen the movie Leave 164 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:46.639 in Las Vegas? That's with them, Nicholas Cage. Nicholas Cage, Yeah, 165 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:48.879 yeah, good actor. Yeah, that was a good movie. And 166 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:52.080 some people are like, that's not about movie about addiction, this movie about 167 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:56.919 suicide, and it's like, wow, it's kind of both because you get 168 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:01.200 to that point. I was talking about this on a post that Skuyler Stone, 169 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:07.039 he's an actor comedian. He posted something about recovery movies and so I 170 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.039 mentioned that and somebody was like, there's not a recovery movie and I was 171 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.840 like, yeah, it is, and they're like, no, it's suicide. 172 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:13.879 And I was like, well, it's because addiction got him, you 173 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.279 know, like he wouldn't be thinking about suicide if he wasn't, you know, 174 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.960 so addicted alcohol. I had to explained it to him a little bit. 175 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.320 And then another thing too, I watched a woof of Wall Street. 176 00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.559 I caught half of it last night and I came home. Yeah, and 177 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:33.039 that's that's a pretty that reminds you of Vegas. Well, it reminds me 178 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:43.279 of how I used to go out there and do drugs and and how it 179 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.279 just takes you out there, Winnfield, how it takes you out there and 180 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:52.559 how self destruction it is because he was on top of the world and then 181 00:13:52.720 --> 00:14:00.120 the drugs and alcohol it takes you down you no matter. And he a 182 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.360 lot of money m m, yeah, a lot of money. And it 183 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:09.600 just goes to show you that it don't show no discrimination, takes out the 184 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.080 poor, takes out the rich. Yeah, how you and there's a lot 185 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:18.159 of people, especially people who are i'd say middle class, upper middle class. 186 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.200 Even sometimes they can have false conscious or false consciousness, whatever it's called. 187 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:26.879 But they we just assume. Man, if I just had money, 188 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:28.840 I'd be happy. If all my bills were paid, I'd be happy, 189 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.279 you know. But if just all your bills are paid, you'd be happy. 190 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:35.600 Okay, maybe, But then you want more and you think, oh, 191 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:37.399 man, it'd be nice to have a boat. It'd be nice to 192 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:41.600 have a long guy. Nice to have a pool. Tell your pool guys 193 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:48.720 starts messing around with your Yeah, family killed your Your spouse is like his 194 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:52.279 spouse when it comes time to go to jail. Now he wanted to change, 195 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:56.519 but not. Your wife is tired. She not. She wanted to 196 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:01.360 divorce you. And you know your old lifestyle, it changes, it changes. 197 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:07.639 Yeah, So you know when field, all I can do is just 198 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:13.080 be happy for the day. And well, did you see any crazy stuff 199 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:18.200 while you're in Vegas? Oh my gosh, yes, what people using? 200 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:28.080 Is that on the street? Yeah, police chasing people on horse on foot 201 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:33.600 and you it's it's wow, how does that make you feel? As a 202 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:37.279 black man, They're standing there and here comes police just running down the just 203 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:43.840 run down the street. We're like, oh shit, better run well well, 204 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:50.720 wind Field, it makes you well. It made me aware of what 205 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:54.879 happens if I could go back out there again what it happened. But you 206 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.720 know, I'm not doing nothing, so I feel good about I ain't got 207 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:07.639 to and hiding that and there, but it shows me where it's still out 208 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:15.279 there. It's still out there. Is it's it's worse. You You just 209 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:19.240 have to just you just have to just be aware of things. Okay, 210 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:26.279 so police people using, people using was there like little people run around swords 211 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:37.440 or something, well not swords, but you you you you have people come 212 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:45.360 up to you. Are you straight? I got this? And and you 213 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:48.360 have to be pretty strong, Winfield, because when somebody show you something in 214 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:52.720 their hands, you said, wow, you know you have to be strong 215 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:59.960 and you have to respect what stuff could do to you. You have to 216 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.600 give a respect. You know you've been through it like I have. And 217 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:08.440 so what was your answer to that? Oh, it's it's definitely no win 218 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:12.920 Pheel. I can't go so I came. I came too far to go 219 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:17.920 back, and I ain't no different than nobody else. It can hit me 220 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:19.839 the same way too, So they would come up to you and say are 221 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.079 you straight, and you say no, I've been waiting. I've done way 222 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:27.119 too much for that. I'm not going back. Yeah. I just turned 223 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:32.400 my head. I mean straight as in like do you like men or women? 224 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.319 Like? Straight? Like? Are you straight? Like? Do you 225 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:42.599 like men or women? Like? Are you straight? Like? I thought 226 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:48.359 that's what you were saying, no, that we're having a relation here. 227 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.160 A lot of times that's slang for are you straight? Means like it's just 228 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.480 a slang you need anything, you need, any drugs you need, you 229 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:03.039 need ecstasy? You are you okay? That's oh man, okay? Because 230 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:06.960 I thought I was like, whoa, I didn't know this about you, 231 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:08.000 like I've known for a couple of years now, and I was like, 232 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:15.440 wow, I didn't know Tyrone wasn't straight. I get it now, blew 233 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:19.079 me away. I was like, what, it's a funny joke. Though. 234 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:22.519 I did see a guy. One guy said are you straight? And 235 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:25.839 he was kind of an older guy. He said, what what, I'm 236 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:29.160 a crooked? Well, I'm a crooked. I'm not don you straight? 237 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:33.799 And I just kind of laughed at him, and so the guy just walked 238 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:37.559 away. From him. He's looking for his next victim. You know. 239 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:42.599 So what else was crazy? Oh? Man, the time difference. It's 240 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:48.119 kind of weird watching the Lions at nine o'clock in the morning. Yeah, 241 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:53.119 I bet you didn't better on that game, did you? No? Smart 242 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:56.920 man? No, I thought I knew he was gonna win, but then 243 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:04.640 they lost their bus kick my sorry green Bay? Yeah, yeah, it 244 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:10.680 shot shot, but I mean it shouldn't because I mean, well, normally 245 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:14.119 green Bay beat the Lions anyway, but especially when they had farm and then 246 00:19:14.119 --> 00:19:17.000 they had Rogers or wasn't it. But man, this was supposed to be 247 00:19:17.039 --> 00:19:19.759 the year things looking good. Now I'm questioning the Lions. If they're good 248 00:19:19.880 --> 00:19:26.000 enough, well, well, I think we'd be back on the bandwagon Sunday. 249 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:30.599 Yeah. If you would have bet on the Packers though, you would 250 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.279 have done pretty well because the Lions were pretty big favorite. I think seven 251 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:41.640 and a half or something. Man, that's just yeah, that was Yeah, 252 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:45.440 that was a good turkey day. That went a good turkey day. 253 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:48.160 So you would you eat turkey yet? Did you have turkey on things? 254 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:55.640 H? No? I think I had fish sandwich kill. Yeah, I 255 00:19:55.720 --> 00:20:03.279 like it's horrible. I'm sorry, that's where you had and did you enjoy 256 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:07.920 any other good food while you're out there? Okay, plenty of fish hamber 257 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:15.039 there, but everything's just so expensive. Anything so expensive? What was the 258 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:22.799 best restaurant you ate at out there? M heck? I ordered from the 259 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:26.279 room from the menu service. Yeah, the room service. Well who told 260 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:32.839 you? I stayed in the Hilton. Oh those beds are comfortable, yes, 261 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:37.960 yeah, they have some comfortable beds. But yeah, because you get 262 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:38.839 a cheap flight. I was going to ask you because you told me the 263 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:41.559 flight and I was like, whoa, that's a round trip and you're like 264 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:44.640 yeah. I was like, oh my goodness. But when you get there, 265 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:48.200 there's when they get you right, because like, yes, yeah, 266 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.119 you know, Corey, if I do people go to Vegas. I don't 267 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:56.200 know what for, but I don't know. It just doesn't appeal to me. 268 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:03.599 A lot of people go to Vegas is you know, it's just a 269 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:07.799 premier. But I think the next time I'm going back to Oregon again. 270 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:11.240 Yeah yeah, I like I like Orgon. Yeah, I've never been there, 271 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:15.359 but my grandmother was originally from there, and I don't know, it's 272 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.759 just real pretty effort and green. It's not one hundred degrees and you're close 273 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:22.599 to Seattle, Washington. I we'll go back to them hills. Yeah, 274 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.200 money says it wasn't that bad. But man, I'm telling you, like, 275 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:30.119 if you were downtown by the Pike Market and you're trying to go, 276 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.640 no, we had to walk a hill, like I don't think that's why 277 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:34.839 people don't get robbed down there, because you'd have to run up the hill 278 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:38.200 eventually and you would just, yeah, you would lose out. Like there's 279 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:41.160 no way. You'd have to have somebody on a bike or a mope, 280 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:45.920 heead not even a bike because you can't bike up those hills. It's not 281 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:51.119 happening. That's why there's no crime on Pike Market. But it's the weather 282 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:56.400 out there is nice win feel in the winter time, and it's it's a 283 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:59.240 little different. It's a little different. A lot of hippies out there, 284 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:04.119 right, Yeah, a lot of living on streets, people living in their 285 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:10.119 cars on streets out there, kind of like California. Yeah, was like 286 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:14.359 that. It's a big it's a big problem with the homelessness. Now, 287 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:19.920 homeless is a big which homelessness, you know, I was talking to mister 288 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:26.880 Day. It's just one paycheck away. Your car could break down and you 289 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:30.880 have to get your car fixed and you could be homeless, rent or your 290 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:33.839 car get fixed, lose your job, you can't find one, you get 291 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:37.119 devicted. Not what because those people don't care. They want their money. 292 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:42.240 So it's it's just one of those things that a lot of people don't realize. 293 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:45.160 They think about, oh, I got some savings, Okay, well 294 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:48.720 that might go to you know, just be humble and be thankful for what 295 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:52.200 you have, because just know that you could be step away. And a 296 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:56.720 lot of people do. They do have a hard time believing that. Some 297 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.359 people and I chalk this up to like mental ill but some people are homeless 298 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:03.799 by choice. Yeah, and some people just don't believe that. And you 299 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:08.640 spent some time here in Traverse City at the sheltered and so you kind of 300 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:11.680 know and you've seen it. But like when I tell the people, they 301 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:14.799 just look at me like I'm lying. I'm like no, Like, there 302 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:17.640 are people that don't want a house, they don't want a job, they 303 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:18.920 don't want anything. They just want to live out in the woods and then 304 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:22.960 want you to leave them alone until they want to come ask you for some 305 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:26.200 money or you know, do do whatever they do. But they like the 306 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.400 fact that they feel like there's no rules to them and they don't have to 307 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:33.880 go to work and they can hustle this, hustle that, and there's a 308 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:37.240 lot of bad things that come with that, you know, And that doesn't 309 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:40.880 make it easy for the people that just happened upon hard times and you know, 310 00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:48.680 find themselves unhoused. But you know, it just surprises me that people 311 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:49.440 don't believe me why I tell them that, you know, because I'm like, 312 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:52.319 not everybody out there wants to be housed. Well, yes they do. 313 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.240 They won't, No, they won't. And you were telling me a 314 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:57.240 sorry about those a family that was out there that was like, Nope, 315 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:00.039 we don't want that. We're going to We're gonna need something bigger. We 316 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:04.400 want a bigger place. So they chose to live out in the tent with 317 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:10.480 children because the place that they were offered wasn't good enough for them. And 318 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:11.960 when I tell that story, people looking like I'm lying, I'm like, 319 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:19.359 no, I'm not. And everyone has everybody has a choice. But this 320 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:26.519 homeless days is something, something real, something to I've been through it and 321 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:33.519 it's just something Wow, it takes a lot out of you takes. I 322 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:40.599 saw this video on the homeless in law and they were talking about just the 323 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:45.200 mental the mental illness, you know, that is right along with it. 324 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:51.000 And some people when they start that journey, they're at their breaking point, 325 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:53.559 sure, but they just kind of go off the rails, and every day 326 00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:56.400 it seems to get just worse and worse and worse for them. And then 327 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.400 you add that up over a year. If you're getting just a little bit 328 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.119 worse every day, well in a year, that's a lot worse than when 329 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.119 you started. And then you add drugs to the mix, because why not, 330 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:08.720 you know, like, hey, I want to feel better, I 331 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:11.720 want to feel something. You know, life's not really working out for me 332 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.279 right now. And then of course by doing that sort of thing, you're 333 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.480 not really putting yourself in a situation too better yourself, right, But once 334 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:19.799 you get hooked on it, then how do you get away from it? 335 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:26.759 And then you just become a part of like this whole different society almost and 336 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.640 Renfield and now you know, we're done with Thanksgiving. A lot of times 337 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:34.160 for people, this is a hard stretch. You got Thanksgiving, now you 338 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:41.480 got Christmas coming out. You know, you stress about buying gifts and just 339 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:48.240 every day needs and then you got the new year coming up. A lot 340 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:53.440 of people get frustrated at this time, sod, so just kind of take 341 00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:56.640 it easy, you know, take it easy, Just take it easy, 342 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:00.799 do what you can do. Don't stress. So if you can't do it, 343 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.839 don't don't bag over it. No. Nine eight eight is a good 344 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.200 number, you know, if you're having a problem, you know, nine 345 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:11.119 eight eight. If you need someone to talk to you just remember nine eight 346 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:15.640 eight and pass out a lot of family members too that you might kind of 347 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:19.000 worry about. And you know, there's trainings out there, there's videos that 348 00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:26.119 you can watch to know if somebody's thinking about that, because we've all had 349 00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:30.400 somebody in our lives unfortunately that have been to a point where they think they 350 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:37.400 could come back from and you know, they choose suicide, and it's not 351 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:38.720 a great choice. And a lot of people are like, why would they 352 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:42.200 do that? Or that's horrible of them, but that just shows you what 353 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.880 a what a place they are at. You know, they're at a place 354 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.839 where they feel there is no other option, you know, and that's not 355 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.319 a good place to be at. So, you know, trying not to 356 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.680 criticize and and try to try to help instead, you know, and be 357 00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.359 there and listen. Sometimes that helps, Yeah, because you never know when 358 00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:06.119 or what someone is going through and what's going to push him over, right, 359 00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:08.920 So just yeah nine eight eight. You know, Tyrone, and I 360 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.640 I know you'd love to call us and talk to us about it, but 361 00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:15.720 we're not, you know, professionals, and that I mean, I took 362 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.839 some training, but I could pass you off to somebody and then you'd be 363 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:19.720 like, why are you passing me off? Corey? Really want to talk 364 00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:32.839 to you. I'm like, because nine eight I think they're hiring anyway, 365 00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:33.599 looking for a job, and you're like, hey, I want to get 366 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.920 in that industry. I want to I want to help people. I'm going 367 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:40.680 to learn that kind of training. They'll train you, so you can probably 368 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:47.440 google nine eighty eight jobs. But well, Tyrone, I'm glad that you 369 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:49.519 came to the two seventeen Recovery Center today, and I'm glad we could talk 370 00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:52.920 about your time in Vegas a little bit. I was I was hoping for 371 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.920 more. I wanted to say, oh man, this truck flipped over and 372 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.559 caught on fire. I saw little people running. It was so words like 373 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:07.960 the sex workers there were just leave me alone, off me freebies, like 374 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.759 I don't know, like just all kinds of fun stuff to find a like 375 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:17.920 a nineteen twenty year old I think Mitchell love Vegas. I'm just saying it's 376 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:22.559 not dating sites. These guys around here in Tyrone, Like I swear like 377 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.279 I want to work from home, but I can't because like I don't know 378 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.519 what they would be doing around here. Like there's a I do and a 379 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:34.880 kid, but I don't because they they got at least one of them. 380 00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:40.000 I'm not going to say Mitch's name or anything, but May has started a 381 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:48.559 singles and Sober Singles and Traverse City Facebook page, Oh boy, which you 382 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:52.519 know. I was talking across the stree at Detax today and there's a lot 383 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.480 of things I've been saying, Hey, I've told them that that day and 384 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:56.880 this is that day. But we were talking about relationships, and I said 385 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:03.480 I couldn't see myself with someone who drink or used drugs. And that's just 386 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.160 for the fact that I'm not going to tell someone else what to do. 387 00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:08.720 But I know if there's drugs in the house, then yes, alcohol is 388 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:14.200 a drug. Eventually, I'm gonna use it, catch me on the wrong 389 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.359 day, catch me with some free time, whatever. If it's in the 390 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:18.119 house, I'm gonna use it. And it's not fair for me to tell 391 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.960 other people what to do with their life. So I personally don't think I 392 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.759 could ever be with someone who drank, and thankfully I don't have to be 393 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.000 because I'm married Martie and we're both in recovery. But you know a lot 394 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.319 of people like, oh, don't be thirteen stepping, Like, I don't 395 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.640 know if you're going to places that are that have sober people at them, 396 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.279 you know, I don't really think it should be looked at it as you 397 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.680 just took advantage of them. And it's funny because men get labeled as the 398 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:49.759 one that you're taking advantage of that girl. It's really the opposite, because 399 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:57.400 who has all the power, not the guy with the penis. I'm just 400 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.920 saying, maybe we do. I'm just saying, you know, we're not 401 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:03.640 the ones just like fighting women off of us. No, you can't have 402 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.039 sex with me today. I can imagine being a woman going to a store 403 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.599 or anything, you know, just like I feel like I'm fresh meat here. 404 00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.480 You know, I got my options. It would get old for sure. 405 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:21.839 But but yeah, it's it's it's a different game for them. So 406 00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:25.720 I guess you could say, but I just couldn't see myself doing that, 407 00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.960 being in a relationship with someone who drankers trucks. But so I could see 408 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.200 where they're trying to set up the sober thing and you know, have it 409 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:38.640 not so stood and having people take your inventory. That's what's funny about that. 410 00:30:38.680 --> 00:30:41.759 It's like those people that are don't be thirteen stuffing them like, don't 411 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.480 we took them my inventory? You could always throw those rules of AA back 412 00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.640 on each other, well don't be doing this or you know you're doing this, 413 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.359 don'tn't do that, like whatever fits me at the time. It is 414 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:57.400 how we're gonna roll with that. But nah, But anyway, thanks Tyrone. 415 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:00.839 I love seeing you. I just came by. We're going to have 416 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:08.079 a Secret Santa thing going at the office and you're included. You look thrilled, 417 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.079 You look like you don't want to be a part of it, but 418 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.920 you are You ever been a part of a Secret Santa? What is that? 419 00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:19.160 Okay, I'm glad you asked. It's where a bunch of white people 420 00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:25.559 get together and they buy each other gifts. No, you don't have to 421 00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:30.480 be white. But so we have a limit. I think Justin said thirty 422 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:33.400 five. So thirty five dollars is a maximum you can spend. And then 423 00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.279 we put everybody's name in a little hat and then you draw a name and 424 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:38.880 then you have to get that person. It can be one gift, it 425 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.079 could be ten different gifts, but thirty five dollars is all you can spend. 426 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.240 I was going to try to say that four thousand, but Justin talked 427 00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:51.640 to me out of that and said, no, but unless you draw my 428 00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:55.880 name, he said, then you can spend your four thousand. But so 429 00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:57.880 thirty five is what we'll do, and then you get it. Like I 430 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.680 said, it could be a bunch of gifts, be one gift and then 431 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:07.559 but it's your job to be that person's Santa. Sounds fair. Who do 432 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:12.839 you who do you want to get? Oh? My staff here, Marnie, 433 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.519 Adam, Justin, Mitch. What's the mouse name in there? Susan, 434 00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:21.960 Susan. I already have Susan. Susan can't play because she is having 435 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:30.839 money because she's a mouse. What if you get Justin? You can get 436 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:43.359 him a big size poster of Susan on the side of like Susan is, 437 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:45.319 well, I don't think I can get Marnie. I think someone else will 438 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:50.400 have to get Marnie. Somebody. But if you could pick anybody, who 439 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.039 would Who would you want to get? Oh man, it don't matter. 440 00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:58.000 You give him some fun stuff like okay, So what would you get Mitch 441 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.640 oh Man, just top of your head, I probably would give him a 442 00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:08.559 nice hat or shirt there, Okay. What about Justin? Oh, Justin, 443 00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:15.200 he's fabulous, He's he's just he needs a cape, a Superman cape. 444 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:21.400 And what about Adam Adam? Oh, Adam, we see Adam, 445 00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:29.079 he's uh, probably get him some I don't know. I have to think 446 00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:30.480 on Adam. Okay. And then Marnie. What would you get Marne? 447 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:40.240 Oh Marnie, Oh women stuff cologne? There's some perfume, cologne, cologne 448 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.359 for me, but perfume. What would you get me? Oh Man, 449 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:52.559 Winfield, we would get you, uh probably a linking at match card. 450 00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:00.599 Noah, that's cool, But well we'll see what. We'll have to draw 451 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.039 a name or something today, at least because you're here. But thanks for 452 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.920 coming by, man, I know this is like the longest goodbye send off. 453 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.559 Into the show ever, but it's kind of what I'm known for now. 454 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.960 So yeah, take care and we'll talk to you again free soon man. 455 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:20.719 All right, mister Winfield will be around. Thanks for listening to the 456 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:27.840 two seventeen Recovery podcast. When a bunch of free from two seventeen Recovery go 457 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:32.239 to the air or the website to seventeen recovery dot com.