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Oh you just from you are listening
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Uncle the broadcast. However, tonight, if you're listening live, this is

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Uncle's not up for it tonight,
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going over here and Aaron, before
before you roll any further, I kind

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of actually want to go to a
quick break and uh re established phone lines.

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Okay, we do need to do
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take Aaron off the air to re
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in. I am sorry to interrupt
your pitches but I think you should continue

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them after you're up to supporting the
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should continue from there if you don't
mind, Is that cool? That's good.

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We will go to a break all
right. What I'm gonna grab here

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is a piece of Aaron's original music
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in trouble now, yeah, well
you know what, I'm gonna grab a

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couple of them. How about that? Then, yes, we're gonna grab

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a couple of those, go to
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We are back back in the age
of transitions. We never left. This

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is our time, this is our
place where we're here, either we like

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it or not. And so many
things happening. There's a lot on my

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mind, a lot that I think
I'm going to talk about, lots of

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stuff that before the show, like
even the whole week, and I kind

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of, you know, I've taken
to reading a lot of news articles.

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Actually the past even year i've been
doing this, I've been basically like reading

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a lot of news articles. Where
before I didn't do so much. Now

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I do for what that's worth,
and maybe well, I'm going to try

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to cover some newsworthy events, but
also try to get the greater context as

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far as I'm concerned from what I
can gather, and before we even start

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here, I think I'm going to
mention some geopolitical things, and I will

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just say at the outset, geopolitics
is not my specialty. I am,

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by no means an expert. I
don't always know what I I'm talking about,

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So if you know, if I'm
doing this at my own risk,

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but just you know anything, I'm
not pretending to be like the world's foremost

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authority on anything I'm even saying here, So just just putting that out there.

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This is my take, my commentary
on things, So we'll say that

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now. I'd also like to,
at the outset, try to I don't

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know if I'm going to hit all
these I'm certainly not going to hit them

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in any sort of I'm not going
to be able to do any real justice

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to any of these given topics.
But I just want to point out that

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things that I think are interesting and
important to be noting within these news stories.

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But just you know, the overall
moment we're in are the American Empire

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and its status we are, of
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as an American empire, I think
you can stay that there is certainly,

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America has been dominant geopolitically since the
post war period. It's been the major

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player on the globe. Right,
can we agree to that? I think

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so that status as the top dog
on the world stage is in jeopardy.

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Right, So everything from America's influence
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the foreign policy choices we've been making
for decades now and going into the

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future. Can America keep up and
keep on doing what it has been doing

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for some time now? Is it
sustainable? The foreign policy almost schizophrenic foreign

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policy. It's if you're saying,
like there's there's a clear and defined strategy

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to America's foreign policy. Again,
that's where things get schizophrenic, like wait,

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what is the idea behind this?
What are we going for? Like

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we're saying one thing, we're doing
another. Like, so, yeah,

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there's there's that, There's been that
the whole time. But that America's foreign

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policy, they're influenced on geopolitics,
their placed in the world. Right,

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That's one thing I'd like to try
to get to and and talk to the

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other thing. One of the other
things is the propaganda matrix that we're within,

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and not just the the the understanding
that we now must realize that we

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live in a multi polar propaganda matrix. It's not, I think, what

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most people want to defer to,
and certainly like the contrarian, conspiratorial,

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anti establishment whatever the folks who are
supposedly should be freethinkers, right, whatever

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that group is, or whatever groups
of those people are, like the alternative

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right, the alternative crowd. I
think we all want to defer to the

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simplistic concept that the propaganda we have
to look out for is that of what

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the US government or something like that, or our establishment, the Western establishment,

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right, because that's because again I
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comes from the concept like, look, America has been the top dog geopolitically,

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They've done all this over the years, They've been tanged power. They

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are the ones who are pulling the
strings or are causing the problems. That's

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therefore we look to only them when
we're analyzing propaganda, because they are always

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the perpetrators, you know, just
a very narrow minded view of propaganda,

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especially given the situation now where the
ability to craft influence operations. If you're

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not up on that buzzword, get
up on it. Sounds like a cool

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song. But anyway, influence operations
is the term being thrown all about as

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as well it should. They can
be crafted by even individuals at this point,

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So individuals, corporate players, mercenary
outfits, governments, small and large,

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governments alike, terrorist groups, you
name it, any sort of weird

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little pocket of somebody, or even
like political activists can do this. And

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so just you know, name a
special interest group of any given kind,

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they can craft influence operations easier than
ever. And certainly when you're talking about

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governments trying to get their way and
move their gender forward, so you have

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to look, you have to be
considering all of them. Okay, So

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remember that. So that's a point. The propaganda matrix that we are now

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in, it's augmented greatly by the
other thing I want to speak to,

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which is the technological aspects. As
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the technical technologic place that we're in
is something that has to be remembered

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as well. And this in the
context of propaganda. Yes, we have

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to take technology into account, but
also different conflicts, military conflicts, different

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skirmishes, wars, a conflict of
all kinds across the globe. That is,

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the technology has a lot to do
with that. And I think one

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of a thing I was looking at
this past week is instructive in that sense.

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And I saw an article about a
drone that was outfitted to take out

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a tank and all it had to
do was just the drone just dropped a

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grenade inside a tank and took out
a tank. So this highly inexpensive and

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small drone able to take out a
large, much more expensive, much heavier,

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serious piece of military equipment taken out
by a seemingly far lesser piece of

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military technology, right, just a
simple drone that you know, that sort

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of thing is really indicative of the
world that we're moving into that any sort

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of established players, first of all, are likely not ready to deal with

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but second of all, will they
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at all to catch up to this
new world that we're in where technology is

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the factor and in all spheres military, economic, governmental influence operations. So

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swaying public opinion, technology very instrumental, very important in that regard. I'm

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getting a call, okay, so
let's go to the caller. Caller,

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what's your name? Where you're calling
from? Jimmy James calling Michigan. All

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right, Jimmy, what's up?
Man? I was just suping of an

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age of transition that I've been going
through for three years. Oh what's that?

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Where is that Bob Dylan song Murder
Most Fouled? That thing? Yeah?

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Yeah, that thing? When it
hit April first, twenty twenty,

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a few weeks after that pandemic stuff
started. Man, that is a powerful

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song, and the people were commenting
on it. What a fitting epithet for

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the twentieth century. I thought,
huh, I guess it's that's when I

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just kind of started realizing that it's
over with. There is no going back

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to the twentieth century. Okay.
When people started speaking about that song in

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that way, is that what prompted
you to think that? Well? That

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in reality, I mean, we're
a quarter century into this century, and

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it's a different world, different people, and I what can I tell you.

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I've spent more of my life in
the previous century than this century,

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and I just I don't know,
I look at everything different now. Yeah,

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I just feel like we have to
Jimmy, right, I mean I

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look being alive in that century and
having come of age in a different time.

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It is it's a bit of culture
shock for us at this point.

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You know what's interesting, Aaron,
I want to ask you a question right

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here about this because Jimmy brings up
music, and I also wanted to just

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throw it on the table and then
I'll get out of this discussion. But

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you and I have children in a
similar age group, So I forget how

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old your kids are. I'm sorry, that's okay, but I got a

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nine year old. I think you
have one that's close to his age.

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Yeah, basically, your your son
is right in between the ages of my

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two children. Yes, I knew
that, like if we put them together

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in a house, it wouldn't be
that disturbing. It would be like kind

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of like they could all sort of
play together. So I was paying myself

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would work perfect. Okay, Well, here's the thing. I don't know

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if your kids are picking up on
some of the old songs that were really

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actually kind of political and interesting.
You remember, okay, so you remember

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Dennis Miller, right, Yes,
remember at one point he had Everybody wants

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to Rule the World. You know, remember that song every talking about Tears

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for Fear? Yeah, of course, yeah, I know Tears for Fear

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as well. Dennis Miller did what
with that song. He used to use

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it as as part of his show
a long time ago, and really like

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in the bumpers or the intro or
something, the intro. Yeah, there

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was this thing really was like when
pool balls and one of them was like

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a Jimmy. Do you remember the
Dennis Miller show when he had that and

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he was mister you know, super
politics and weird sub references before Yeah,

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the NFL was that when he was
an HBO. Yeah. Yeah, that's

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when he was pretty much king of
the world and liberal back then, liberal

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and all politics, all politics all
the time, right, Jimmy, Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, different from one
of these today. But what's weird

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is that, like, okay,
see, I forget about Dennis Miller,

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but the fact is that that song
is what he chose to use. It

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was a heavy license feed at HBO
paid and that song was pretty interesting politically,

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even though it's a weird pop song, and you know, it was

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one of those things that a guy
like me would have ignored back then and

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so on and so forth. Are
your kids singing songs like Frankie sings that

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song all the time. I don't
know where they use it I don't know

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what's going on, but he sings
that song and I went and I'm like,

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he thinks it's something new somehow,
and I'm like, that is far

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from new. That's like, you
know, twenty years before or thirty years

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even before you were born. That
song, you're singing a very old song,

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and it's heavily loaded with politics.
And I'm telling you metaphorically, it

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is the difference between the kids that
are born on that side of the millennium

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and us, right there is the
weirdness with which they look at our history,

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don't know that it's even history.
Matter of fact, there's even a

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movement of foot among younger people that
are supposedly adults to basically deny that anything

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that happened before they were born even
matters at all. It's a weird thing.

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doesn't matter, is a common response. And I'm just saying this is the

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fact that, you know, those
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we're the old people now, and
it's a very strange world. And

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I wonder about that transition, cause
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It's not like we're you know,
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World War two generation or anything yet, but we're recognizing we're gonna get there.

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See, and with the way the
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So it's interesting that Jimmy brings up
the whole. Yeah, I thought about

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we can't go back to the twentieth
century. I mean, he sounds sad

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about it. I mean we all
know mathematically, realistically, you can't go

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back. But what is back there
is just picked up maybe as tropes,

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as memes, as jokes, and
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and that's a hell of a transition.

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first, do your kids like know
some of those old songs and do

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that to you, Like every once
in a while you go, I know

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what that is that came from this
guys, And they go, really does

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that happen? One and two?
You know, I wonder what you think

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about that, that sort of transition, and you and Jimmy starting to discuss

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that. So I just wanted to
lay that there. And now I'm gonna

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shut up. Honestly, I haven't
I haven't noticed it with my kids with

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the music so much. I'm not
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have noticed is, you know,
they go online and the meme culture for

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sure is something that they're up on, Like all you have to do is

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play roadblocks like as a little kid, and some derivative form of whatever meme,

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Like they know what doge is,
right, They know all about doge,

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Like the favorite dog is a sheibu
enu because doge, right. And

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then like you know, at their
age level, they don't really know what

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doge coin even is, but they
any like sort of like associated memes,

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like they they know kind of right, so that whatever meme culture includes,

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which is everything, they get a
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also like streaming. They'll stream old
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they do that. And the other
funny perspective to just throw into this one

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last thing is that you know,
I'm seeing commercials now for Mickey Mouse is

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one hundred years old basically, which
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I always have to stop myself from
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because that is the weird. One
of the weird things that my daughter

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couldn't pronounce. When she was little. She was perfectly eloquent, but she

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had a couple of weird, quirky
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she was like two years old,
was Mickey Mouse. Mick a mouse.

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Uh, Mickey Mouse is one hundred
years old. Yeah, that's weird to

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me. In general, I remember
hearing a story pop up saying that the

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uh, like the copyright on Mickey
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to expire and that for some reason
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it. So that's at the point
that that happens, anybody could use Mickey

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Mouse royalty free without having to worry
about gags c by Disney, which before

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you would for sure. I don't
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seemed almost too good to be true. I'm like, what, but I

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remember that being a recent story.
I haven't looked into it further other than

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just somebody saying it and me reacting
by saying almost like that's too much to

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even be true. But maybe you're
right. Yeah, I mean that's a

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whole other interesting topic too. It's
intellectual property and you know, intangible things,

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and seeing as how we're likely moving
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each passing day, I don't think
people have realized how important the virtual space

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is going to be. We're not
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like the infant version social media and
online activity as we know it is like

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sort of like the gateway to that. But the real virtual spaces haven't hit

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yet, but they will. There's
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to happen. And also the convergence
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happening as well. Like we're seeing
like the movies starting to die, right,

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and we're seeing streaming being weird,
and streaming having trouble with its whole

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economic model is not sound, and
like, well, what the hell's gonna

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happen with that people? And people
don't seem to notice that. What's occurring

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is the convergence of all media.
So you've got like movie, film,

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TV, video games which are interactive. And also I would say, mix

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in social media, online activity,
online communities, internet, so we're connected

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via a technology like individual people,
right, mix all of that stuff together,

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and artificial intelligence, right, artificial
intelligence and making the imagery that it's

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making now, and its ability like
to take all of its training data and

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like remash it and people building prompts
prompting AI to make new rehashes and amalgamations

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of stuff, of everything like mixed
together. Nobody seems aware of it.

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is mixing into one giant new form of

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media. Is what's going on.
And it hasn't matured yet, but not

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long. I don't think it will
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on quicker advances and we're starting toly, oh okay. And even in this

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past year with the AI, like, oh, we got these videos of

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the only thing AI was able to
do was make you know, pick a

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famous person. Now they can be
made to eat spaghetti and that's and even

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the imagery of you know, eminem
or Joe Biden eating spaghetti was like really

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horrific and gusting looking. That was
the beginning of this year. And now

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at the end of this year,
I'm seeing like very artistic looking AI imagery,

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right, so it's getting better pretty
quick. I'm not getting into the

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debate of is AI is it artwork, because like it doesn't matter. It's

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it's it's a tool that's improving,
and it's one I think that's going to

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be used as, like, you
know, an intermediary of people acting as

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these weird visual media DJs prompting this
thing like oh yeah, mixed together Heathcliff

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the Cat, make him playing tennis
with Tom Brady and make it happening on

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Elon Musk's Mars Colony base and make
me a video and make this weird techno

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death metal music playing in the background
and make it funny, right, And

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then I want to be able to
be in the middle of that and play

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as Heathcliff and then my buddy on
the other side on his computer, he's

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gonna be Tom Brady and we're gonna
play a game and guess what it'll be

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able to do that. And so
that that's what's happening with media now.

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And that's not even I mean,
we're not even touching on the propaganda on

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the war, I mean whatever,
you know, just the every day mundane

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like this is the media. This
is what I do to relax is I

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watch TV? Like, well,
yeah, that's what you used to do.

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Now. I have a question there, you know, what's that I

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agree with? I think they're just
looking at someone's, someone's. The people

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will finally find one platform they like. But I think they've been doing that

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for a while, just like you
said, like you remember Microsoft's one effort

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where they wanted, you know,
the one system set up the computer,

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the cell phone and their xboxes.
Oh yeah, Well, all the companies

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want a proprietary version of that.
I think they're I think they're gonna find

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it's not going to work out quite
like that, but everybody wishes that they

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could just build that. Everybody's trying
to do that ray one guy's building Meta

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and then the other guy's building what
X world. What are they are they

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waiting? Are they waiting for people
to choose one? Or are I mean,

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because people don't really seem to be
flocking to any one system. If

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they were smart, and they are
and evil, I'm sure they'll come up

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with some kind of sharing deal.
I'm sure it's like fast food. I'm

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sure it's like fast food, you
know where it'll exist in some level,

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Like there's every town has a McDonald's, but some places it's better to put

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KFC, And with some groups of
people, it'll be better to serve in

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KFC, and some places it'll be
better to put the taco bell, although

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I absolutely deny the idea from demolition
Man the taco bell will win the restaurant

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wards. But you know, but
the thing is, I think all the

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flavors will at some point find a
coexistence level. But the truth is,

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after a while, Burger King makes
a big mac and McDonald's makes a whopper

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basically, and you know, one
way or another, they're all making fries.

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And yeah, I think that's what's
going to happen here. I think

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we're going to end up with the
fast food world of online facilities that you'll

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be able to do everything through.
YouTube is also counted as a social media

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network now yep, which is weird
to me because to me it was just

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the place you go and you watch
videos. But and yeah, you can

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use it for that, but you
know, you watch and you create and

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people compete in there. But no, it's also a social network. It's

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also a crowd sourcing, fundraising,
creating independent media. Do your job there

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all day. There are people doing
that on Twitter now, way outside of

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Tucker Carlson, you know, one
way or another, subscribe to me on

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on X right, he got the
subscriptions. So it's weird you know,

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Patreon lets you upload video now their
video platform as well, if you're on

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that. Honestly, that took way
too long, but yes, it took

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way too long. But what I'm
saying is that eventually it's like everybody gets

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French fries, Jimmy James, right, everybody gets French fries. Eventually,

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even Taco Bell, Yeah, I
get you, even tackle though, Yeah,

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you're right, they do, right, Yeah, that might be their

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method. Maybe they'll just start saying, hey, but so let everyone come

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to our part, but we'll just
share all the information anyway. Maybe,

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I mean, that's what it looks
like, because eventually it's, like I

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said, it's cross pollinating. And
Elon Musk is constantly telling you we're going

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to make Twitter basically into everything.
Yes, you know, so they're like,

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we got video now, we got
that. You can podcast on Twitter,

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by the way, you can podcast
and broadcast. They have a radio

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setup now in Twitter spaces, so
you can go right now and get a

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live space and have co hosts and
take callers basically who are just connected through

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their devices on Twitter, and you
can bring and let them do all that,

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and they're they're also your audience simultaneously. It's interesting. I mean,

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anybody who thought that the format of
Twitter was some sort of like eternal format

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that was never going to go anywhere, never going to change, I think

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has a lack of foresight, to
say the least. I mean, don't

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get me wrong, I would I
want to be in line to be somebody

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to criticize Elon Musk. However,
I mean, at the same time,

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like, if Twitter changes which it
is, I mean, first of all,

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doesn't matter. I'm of the opinion
not really everybody takes these things.

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I just tem difficulty taking any of
these things seriously. Well, and here's

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that's probably a problem of mine,
but I default to that. And here's

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the other thing. If you don't
evolve, right, you become Kenny Rogers

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Roasters or whatever. You become the
fast food restaurant that it doesn't matter you

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got fries, you didn't make it. You become MySpace in this space,

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right because my Space, a lot
of people might forget, I know,

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Grandpa, MySpace. My Space was
huge. It was the biggest thing in

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the world. It was going to
be the place where you could put up

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anything you wanted. You could share
your art, your music, your videos.

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Right, you could share yourself on
there. It was social networking.

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Everything was MySpace at a certain point, and Facebook said, yeah, it

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was fun, right. The thing
that cracked me up about that, Chuck

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is I would go like, there's
a guy I worked with at the time,

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and he was all like, I
don't know the way dressed and act,

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you know, you think it heavy
heavy metal. And then I went

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to my Space once and all it
was was old country music. I like,

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huh, yep, well, and
there you saw the first version of

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you know it. It doesn't matter
what somebody is in real life. They

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recreate themselves into something else online,
which you know, you can easily see

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through YouTube. I mean, there
are people that now have cameras in their

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houses all day long pretty much,
and then they cut it down into different

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videos and that's what they release and
that's how they pay for their home.

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Yes, which is wild. There
are guys that like, what will happen

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if we fill our entire you know, giant, huge vault ceiling living room

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with balloons? You know, yes, okay, and the whole house is

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devoted to like it's a YouTube house. Yes, it's an Instagram house now,

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you know, like everything in the
house is on Instagram stuff like that,

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and and do these people live there
and do this? I mean,

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yeah, today we're gonna find that
happens. Yeah, today we're gonna find

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it what happens when you fill your
kitchen with shaving cream? You know,

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like yeah, and you could you
could certainly argue that that whole phenomenon was

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something that was born out of the
old legacy media too, Like you know,

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you it's it's like the new iteration
of Viva labam right, which itself

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was also influenced by previous shows,
you know, derivative back and back and

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back derivative of like Tom Green and
Jack Ash And then before that it was

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you know, if you go all
the way back to first reality show again

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was real People right where it was
like we're just going to go and find

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real people that are kind of extraordinary
in a way, and people went,

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wow, I mean, other people
will watch regular people on TV because there's

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something odd about them. And in
a way, that turns into Jerry Springer,

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which turns into you know, because
that came from Phil Donahu. And

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then what happens when Haraldo gets into
a fight and Morton Downey Juni fights Nazis

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in a fake incident in an airport, and so on and so forth.

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Right, remember that he had he
spray painted himself with a swastik on his

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head. It was hilarious, you
know. Or Aldo got his nose broken

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by the UH. I don't know
the uh. What is it? The

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war for Aryan rights or whatever war? I forget what it was, but

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00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.960
the Aryan group that was sitting there
literally with the swastika bands on, and

409
00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.519
all that was was one of those
things where the swastika was like spinning the

410
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:28.000
wrong direction, like it was like
drawn the wrong way or something. Oh

411
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.679
yeah, there was that too,
the spray painted swastika on Moreton, because

412
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:35.920
clearly he did it in a mirror. And that's how you're gonna put your

413
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:40.119
swastika going the wrong way, because
it looks right in the mirror. But

414
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:46.280
I remember that, I remember actually
Guar made a joke about that, I

415
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:50.039
think in the song or of course, but why not, you know,

416
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:53.039
And and then of course Jimmy Swagger
against you. You know, all that

417
00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:59.599
going on and the downfall of the
televangelist, which televangelism was a huge thing,

418
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.280
and that's it still exists, that, yes, yes it does,

419
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:07.239
and that's also getting influenced by the
digital world and going in a whole new

420
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.840
direction, right, right, kind
of I mean new, not new,

421
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:14.239
that's what I mean. Right,
Peter Popov will still sell you as water,

422
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.480
but some of these preachers are looking
at cryptocurrency. I mean, you

423
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:21.679
know, it's a thing just saying
no. But it's just wild to take

424
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.119
a look at how these things get
remixed and reissued. But again, someday

425
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:30.400
you might just be Kenny Rogers Roasters
because even if you got fries, doesn't

426
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:34.519
matter. Nathan's hot Dogs was going
to be like a big national chain of

427
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:37.400
restaurants at one point, and you
know Nathan's famous from Coney Island, Da

428
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.000
Da Da Da Da, And yeah, it kind of worked for a little

429
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:44.639
bit, but it went away eventually. Some of the stuff that looks like

430
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:46.960
it's well established that is the big
thing, and all that good stuff.

431
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.039
I mean, I'm some shocked still
that Subway Restaurants exist as they do and

432
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.559
have grown from this little company in
the yea. I know, they were

433
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:58.760
just as little tiny thing in Connecticut
and quite honestly, they were one of

434
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.280
the cheapest franchises you good bye at
one point, and that's how they grew

435
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:06.239
exponentially. Their strengths was the cheapness
of it. Yes, it was so

436
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:09.519
cheap. You know, like you
needed a million dollars years ago, you

437
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:14.360
needed a million dollars for Duncan Donuts, you needed two million for for uh

438
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.760
A McDonald's to establish a brand new
franchise, But for subway you could do

439
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:24.639
it for like thirty grand. Yeah. Yeah. When in the Navy and

440
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:30.239
I was leaving, they gave me
this book from Navy blue to corporate grade

441
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:37.280
and they had an ad buy your
own subways franchise for ten grand. Yeah.

442
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:39.440
Oh, and they were given discounts
to veterans too to buy a big

443
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:43.000
Oh. Yeah, I guess that's
it. Yeah, that's right. I

444
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.679
call that was so cheap. Yeah, I didn't think of that. Yeah.

445
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:50.440
What they did is they gave a
discount to veterans. And if you

446
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.679
wanted to co brand, like say, you own a franchise that could support

447
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:59.159
a small modular subway. How do
I know this because I established one and

448
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.480
an Exxon where we put one in
just to see what would happen. And

449
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:06.880
I told them, despite all their
research, I said, this will not

450
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.320
work in this area. And I
was correct, But they re insisted,

451
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:13.800
no, We've already done all the
surveys, and we pay people to do

452
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:15.440
this. And I'm like, you
could have given me a hundred bucks and

453
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.800
I would tell you not to do
it, because this is what's going to

454
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:22.760
happen. And it happened exactly like
I said. But the thing is,

455
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:27.239
I did put it in though,
as per the orders of the franchise owner,

456
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.119
I established it, and it was
about ten grand to establish a module.

457
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:35.840
And they also had mentioned to me
that if I was a veteran myself,

458
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:39.679
that I could establish one for cheaper, like normally cost thirty or thirty

459
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:44.159
five grand to establish one a freestanding
one, but I could get it cheaper

460
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:45.519
as a veteran. So I guarantee
that's why they gave you that book,

461
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:50.760
dude. Ten grand. That is
the modular price which they would charge to,

462
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.199
yeah, a veteran, to encourage
veteran ownership. It's interesting because this

463
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.800
kind of gets that one of the
points I was wanting to make was that

464
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:06.079
the cheaper, easier solution is often
the one that ends up on top,

465
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.639
right, And I think that's going
to be more and more the case on

466
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:16.079
the technological military, for sure.
At every angle, like whoever can come

467
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:22.800
in and like cut costs and also
exploit the vulnerabilities of these big, lumbering

468
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:29.280
behemoths of the establishment. And you
know, you name who the establishment is

469
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.960
in any given arena, they're going
to be toppled by these little guys coming

470
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:40.280
in doing stuff on the cheap and
being creative about how they're running their operations,

471
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:47.000
be those military operations, you know, counterinsurgency operations, propaganda operations,

472
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.920
or the operation of you know,
establishing your influence across the world. We're

473
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:59.239
going to do it by offering cheaper, better, faster solutions. And certainly

474
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:04.760
speed is is attained by you know, new technologies which are always changing.

475
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:08.159
So staying up on that being to
be able to be clever enough to stay

476
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:15.119
on the forefront of that, not
be married to your old ways, your

477
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.639
old established ways of doing things.
And in the military sense, I definitely

478
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:23.239
see, like you know, the
F thirty five is like the perfect example

479
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:30.960
of the old military establishment and the
old even geo foreign policy establishment in the

480
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:35.719
US, like from the post war
period to now you could symbolize it in

481
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:45.280
the F thirty five and then going
forward, you've got you've got the tech

482
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:51.599
establishment, Silicon Valley, and yes, the China doing what it does,

483
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:59.039
but AI and all the converging technologies
there, that is, you know,

484
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:07.679
the way forward. Uh, I
don't know, it's just that's that's kind

485
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.440
of part of it. But anyway, Jimmy, what will say you to

486
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:16.639
everything? Well, it's interesting you
say that. May Brousse has said a

487
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:22.239
long long time ago, the American
people will always choose to cheap, the

488
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.199
easy, and the vulgar. Sure, yeah, of course they will.

489
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:31.440
Why wouldn't they. It's not just
the American people though, this is like

490
00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:37.000
a global thing. It's just about
what's economical, what's smart, and and

491
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:43.039
what's what is a waste? What's
wasteful? Like I think everything wasteful is

492
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.519
now not only being called into question, and you could do that on the

493
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:50.639
ecological side of the coin too.
It's like, well, it's uh,

494
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.360
is the way we've been doing things
really the best way? Are there other

495
00:45:54.480 --> 00:46:01.239
alternatives? There's actually exploration in that
regard, which is fascinating. For one,

496
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:07.840
it remains to be seen what will
come of that. But you know,

497
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:12.960
what is actually the most practical,
least wasteful way to do things?

498
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:17.719
Certainly that was not the way we
were going about business in the previous couple

499
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:23.000
decades, but the previous even century. I guess you could say, I

500
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:29.480
mean waste got to be the establishment
on the corporate side of things. You

501
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:32.280
build crap that breaks planned ops,
the lescens, that's the way you turn

502
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:38.920
a big profit. In the government
sense, the military industrial establishment. Yeah,

503
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:43.000
who cares if we dump a bunch
of money into this project like the

504
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:47.679
F thirty five. It creates jobs, it's good for the economy. You

505
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:52.239
know, that's all well and good, But what's it do with you create

506
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:57.360
like this pile of trash. Literally, you make a big pile of junk

507
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:01.119
that wasn't there before you started this
project. That's one problem. You got

508
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:06.119
to clean that. And then the
other problem is, well, what if

509
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:08.880
somebody comes in that's clever enough.
It doesn't take a whole lot of smarts

510
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:14.000
to come up with a more efficient
way to do things, right, How

511
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.360
would somebody not? How could you
not come up with a better way to

512
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:21.360
do things? And then you got
like again with the American military establishment.

513
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.719
They're always whining about the budget,
it's not big enough, that we need

514
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:30.360
more money, and all the while
they're like so wasteful and they bring up

515
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:35.960
actual points, like they can't keep
up with munitions, they can't even manufacture

516
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:42.760
enough regular sort of just things like
making things like that, but they can

517
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:46.159
dump a bunch of money into all
sorts of other wasteful stuff. So clearly

518
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:51.320
there's a lot of issues that aren't
going to be solved anytime soon. There's

519
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:54.039
a lot of lip service like yeah, we're working on we're changing things.

520
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.199
It just seems like it's going to
be a story of too little, too

521
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.800
late. Although you have to look
on the other side of things and you're

522
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:07.400
like, ooh, big scary China. You know, they're no, they've

523
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:14.079
got problems of their own in terms
of being wasteful and you know, entrenched

524
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:19.960
established interests. I mean, their
entire government is just one. So you

525
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.000
know, like I guess that's the
positive angle. Things like, yeah,

526
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.760
we're bad and we do a lot
of stupid stuff and we're wasteful, and

527
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.920
you know, it looks like we
could get taken advantage of but by who

528
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:34.159
this clown over on the other side
of the world. I mean, yeah,

529
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:37.119
maybe it wouldn't take a whole lot, but they got to get their

530
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:42.559
act together too, And I guess
the good aspect of this is everybody's kind

531
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.559
of doing a lot of stuff wrong. That's good, it's bad. It's

532
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:51.480
where we're at, and maybe we're
setting things up for a situation where the

533
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.320
machines just get developed to a point
where they come and they just start automating

534
00:48:55.400 --> 00:49:00.119
and take control of everything, And
maybe that's good. Maybe it's good that

535
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:07.440
machines start taking control of stuff,
because you know, it's like I say

536
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.280
this all the time, like half
of it seems like most jobs out there

537
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:15.079
just jobs that robots had ought to
be doing. Anyway, it's not humane

538
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:21.079
what we're the way we're spending our
time. We're we're doing these tasks that

539
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:25.719
were made their machine tasks, so
of course a robot's can come in and

540
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:30.320
start doing it. I mean you
could expand that to the larger sense of

541
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:35.960
like what are we doing? What
is our society? What is our economy?

542
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.960
Like it's it's just this thing that's
running and it needs like it needs

543
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:43.679
certain inputs, right, it needs
it needs more money to keep out.

544
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.360
It can't go broke. It's we've
got can't go in the red, you

545
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:49.639
gotta stay in the green. We
gotta figure out a way to turn a

546
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.480
profit. We we got, we
got paid. The debt. We gotta

547
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.119
we can't expand the debt. We
gotta watch out about the debt. What

548
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:59.400
do we do about the debt?
Well, let's uh, let's just dump

549
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:02.519
a bunch of more money into the
military, because we need the economy to

550
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:07.360
be boosted to save everything. But
when we do that, when we create

551
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.039
all this money to do that,
we just made more debt. But we

552
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.079
had to, so there's no way
out of it, you know, I

553
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:22.400
mean, like, what the hell
is this stupidity? Exactly? Yeah,

554
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:27.159
I mean there's there's I there's no
way none of this makes any sense.

555
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.079
Nobody's gonna ever like fool me into
thinking that it should, because I know

556
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:37.480
that it doesn't any You can pick
anything apart again, like we we can't

557
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:42.280
go into debt, but we have
to go into debt. Like I don't

558
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.320
know, it's like there, I
guess there's no way out at this point.

559
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.000
We just kind of have to charge
forward. But it might be fun,

560
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.920
it might be interesting, so you
know, why not let's make it

561
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.800
happen. I'm into it. Let's
let's let's see what occurs. I'm not

562
00:50:55.880 --> 00:51:05.320
worried. Jimmy beck to you,
Yeah, a lot of debt. I

563
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:10.239
don't know, now, thirty six
trillion, Yeah, how do you even

564
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:15.119
keep up? And it's debt that's
incurred as soon as you make that money

565
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:17.199
to do whatever it's It's like,
I don't see how it's even possible to

566
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.880
pay back. Like maybe I'm maybe
I'm missing something, but my understanding is

567
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:28.079
like once that debt is created,
you can't pay it off, like because

568
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:34.199
because just all money that's it's being
created and it's instantly attached debt to it,

569
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.440
right, And maybe I'm wrong about
that. Maybe I'm being ignorant on

570
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.960
this. Maybe it's possible to do
it, but I didn't. I don't

571
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:49.400
think it is. No one's done
it, so it must be pretty difficult.

572
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:52.679
I mean, the only way you
could do it is say it it's

573
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.079
gone, Like let's let's just delete
it, Like I think that's how it'll

574
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:58.559
work out, Like let's get on
our computer and just make it go away.

575
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:00.800
Like all we gotta do is like
type it in computer that's not there

576
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:06.079
anymore. And it isn't Fight Club
solution without the boobs, you know,

577
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.000
like just wipe all the debt out, none that's gone. There, we

578
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:15.239
go that was easy that we old
last I checked. I mean, like

579
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:19.639
ten twenty years ago, we old
China five trullion. I'm sure it's ten

580
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:23.119
right now. I would say,
you know what, thanks for the COVID,

581
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:27.360
fat and al. You know what, we're even Stevens right, there's

582
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:31.199
ten trullion. Yeah, yeah,
oh yeah, yeah. Okay. So

583
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:37.320
you're saying, broker a deal between
the debtor and the debt. Eve like,

584
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.800
hey, look, we've got a
mutual interest in making this debt disappear.

585
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:44.920
Let's do that. Let's write up
this contract that says it's that's gone.

586
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.880
So since we owe you money and
you screwed us, here's our bill

587
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:52.480
for you screwing us. Take it
off of what we owe you. Yeah,

588
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:58.719
it's an interesting that's an interesting way
to get that solved along behind the

589
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:02.800
scenes. Yeah, would do behind
stands so that everyone that's you know,

590
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.519
but yeah, I would be calling
up everyone's saying yeah remember w W two,

591
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:15.199
Yeah, we're canceling your debt.
Yeah. I mean, it's it's

592
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:19.880
not that crazy of an idea,
honestly, because like it might get to

593
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:25.079
a situation where everybody again, because
it becomes obvious that the debt can't be

594
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:30.840
paid off in like a monetary sense, like we just gathered the money up

595
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:35.079
and paid Like that's not how it
works, clearly. So it becomes about

596
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:43.239
the deals and like brokering these like
deals between large actors, large debt holders

597
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:45.599
and things like that. But like, hey, look, in the interest

598
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:49.840
of you know, filling the blank
world peace, let's say let's make a

599
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:53.239
deal that makes this debt just disappear. And you know, we'll get our

600
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:58.039
big shot lawyers to write up the
contract and you know, we'll sign it

601
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:01.800
and we'll make a big it'll be
a big to do. Everybody can get

602
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:07.159
happy about there's peace on earth or
something at least for two seconds. And

603
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:13.280
you know, I wouldn't doubt that
things happen like that, or another side

604
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.920
of it is, you know,
just some sort of crazy event happens where

605
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:24.039
the computers are jammed up by you
know the concept of a cyber terrorist attack,

606
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:30.639
where just all the information is lost
on the system that was you know,

607
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:37.159
the the purview of you know whatever
central bank or whatever. It got

608
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:40.400
messed up so bad that the records
are all gone. Like well, I

609
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.960
guess that debt and everything, I
guess all that money, all those economic

610
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:51.280
things. It's just it just evaporated
instantly there. I guess we got to

611
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.360
pick up the pieces and start over. And then that means that all that

612
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:59.440
debt that was there, well that's
gone now. And that brings up all

613
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.199
sorts of quiet, just doesn't it. But you know what, I do

614
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:05.719
have another question. I'm acting like
a caller now, sorry, but I

615
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:08.920
have another question about this, this
debt resolution idea. Right, imagine this

616
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:14.199
for a minute. This leads to
a lot of almost funny but really great

617
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:16.440
things that could happen where it's like, okay, so somebody comes to the

618
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:20.280
United States and says, hey,
look, you know what you charge China

619
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:24.239
for ruining your country? Okay,
cool? Remember when you ruined our country

620
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:29.800
about fifty years ago, America?
And I guarantee you you put a guy

621
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:30.760
like me in there. I'm gonna
look over and go, okay, what

622
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.199
was the name of your country?
Right? Right? So what's that twenty

623
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:38.840
bucks? And they're gonna get pissed. I mean, I'm just saying at

624
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:43.360
a certain point, somebody's gonna go, look, it wasn't worth that much

625
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.239
to begin with, all right,
you know, and I'll pay you something.

626
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:50.599
But I mean twenty. How about
fifty fifty I'm just because I'm a

627
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.519
nice guy, fifty bucks, you
know what I'm saying, Like that will

628
00:55:53.639 --> 00:56:00.239
happen where somebody will undervalue something that
just to a lot of I'm like,

629
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:02.679
can you imagine that for a minute
though, where it's like, you know,

630
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:07.000
somebody goes, hey, you know
that little nation that was just outside

631
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.199
of Paraguay, I'm picking a place
at random, remember that place, and

632
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:13.880
somebody, how about a hundred bucks? Wait, we could send in those

633
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:19.599
guys to the praise trunk sassets'll come
back. So yeah, that that that

634
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:24.039
whole island was worth ten dollars,
right, holy crap. You figure it

635
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:29.400
out either way, though, depending
on the situation. We send the guys

636
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:32.239
who evaluated, you know, the
space and his penthouse for the guys that

637
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:36.880
we were sending them to negotiate where
they did damage us. Hey, listen,

638
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:37.800
it's worth eighty billion, and they
go, no, it's not.

639
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:40.440
It's worth like ten billion at most. They go, no, you don't

640
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:44.519
realize the size of the country,
do you. So you send those guys

641
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:47.599
to negotiate on our behalf, and
then you interject your own guys that will

642
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:51.280
go, yeah, ten bucks ten
bucks. I know it's ten square miles.

643
00:56:51.320 --> 00:56:52.119
What a dollar a mile? What
do you think? Come on?

644
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:54.760
How much? How much would I
pay a trucker? Come on? What

645
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:58.599
are we talking to you? Thirty
cents a mile? Eighty cents a mile,

646
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:04.360
let's go. I mean, really, this would be hilarious to watch

647
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.400
people evaluate and devalue stuff. How
many dead bodies? All right, look,

648
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:12.159
our people are worth five times more
than yours. How about we just

649
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:14.800
send ten people to you. Okay, we'll send you a couple of prisoners

650
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:17.360
to call them a bonus. You
know, we don't just don't want to

651
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:20.880
house them here, so we'll send
them to you. And you got extra

652
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:22.719
people, they go, we replace
them. I mean, think about the

653
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:30.920
negotiations that could go about value.
I mean, just craziness could consume no

654
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:36.360
or But yeah, I'm tiring,
I mean, I just I'm just I'm

655
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.159
just begging the question, like,
isn't the whole thing crazy? Like so

656
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:45.159
how I mean, we've gotten into
so many situations that you just don't get

657
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:49.840
yourself out of. There's no like
logical just like, oh, we follow

658
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:53.000
this set of instructions and you undo
all of you know, the US government's

659
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:59.119
debt right, like, there's no
such a thing. Again, if you

660
00:57:59.159 --> 00:58:00.760
want to look at us, you
got to be creative to figure out a

661
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:05.599
way to tackle the issue. We'll
send your ten subway franchises, free your

662
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:10.039
charge. There you go, there, you go pretty good. There's some

663
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:15.119
countries that might take that deal.
They might because they don't have any you

664
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:17.239
know, like all good for a
tourists. Perfect. I'm just saying,

665
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:21.360
you know, and like, look, subways a cheating You want a McDonald's.

666
00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:23.119
We can only send one, but
we can send five, six subways,

667
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:27.320
no problem, Kenny Rogers, I
don't exist no more. But we

668
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.199
we got we got KFC. We'll
send you two and hose. I mean,

669
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:35.559
you know, picking mix and match
if you like, right, like

670
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:40.880
you're a sand shock, I didn't
know, Jersey. We got. Yeah,

671
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:46.119
it's good, It's really good.
It's definitely worth five subways. Tell

672
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:50.639
you that, no problem. It
won't give you as many jobs, but

673
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:58.119
the subs will be better. I'm
sorry. Quality over quantity, Quality over

674
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:05.719
quantity, Jimmy James, right,
exactly right. Well, I do think

675
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:07.920
I do think like a step in
that direction would be helpful, and this

676
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:14.639
likely about to happen at some point
of that quality over quantity, because quantity

677
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:19.400
being the one of the key issues
of causing so many problems in the past

678
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.920
century, past decades, whatever.
We've been making too much garbage right in

679
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:30.599
every sense of it, figuratively,
literally, we've been doing way too much

680
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:36.440
of that. Maybe it's time to
figure out stop to think what's worth doing,

681
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:40.000
what sort of things we need to
be doing, what things. Maybe

682
00:59:40.280 --> 00:59:45.840
we could save a little bit of
energy, time and money by not doing

683
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:49.000
a lot of the wasteful things we
have been doing. I know that we

684
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:53.559
made it into a business model,
and we've so many people have been living

685
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:57.519
high on that hog for a while. Maybe it's time to stop that.

686
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:01.840
I don't think that sounds like such
a bad idea. I mean, how

687
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:07.760
it ends up working out remains to
be seen, but just that concept I

688
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:16.800
can get on board with. I
think we do definitely need some financial reform.

689
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:24.440
When every American agree with that,
I think so, I think,

690
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:29.199
snap, I don't know how they
couldn't. Yeah, absolutely, say Eric,

691
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:31.480
you have gone to your one hour
here, so you know I'm not

692
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:35.159
pressing you to end it. If
you want to end it now or a

693
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:37.679
few minutes or whatever. I'm here, So yeah, I'm here to do

694
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:40.679
what you want. Unfortunately, we
will not have Uncle live tonight, guys.

695
01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:45.440
But but Aaron is here and doing
his thing, and Jimmy James is

696
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:46.400
on the phone, and this is
fun. And we'll put this out,

697
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:49.880
you know, in a day or
two, just like we do. All

698
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:52.880
right, Okay, well how about
this check in the name of getting more

699
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:58.159
downloads, more hits, more listeners, I'm going to be controversial and take

700
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:02.280
the pro euthanasia stands and put this
show out of its misery. I proclaim

701
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:07.719
the show over. It's dead,
it's kill I'm doctor Kevorkian ing it right

702
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:12.840
now. Okay, that sounds good, it's all you, bro. Okay,

703
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:15.880
consider the plug pulled. But before
that, let me plug a couple

704
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:22.679
things. Ironically enough, Uh,
we're gonna pull the plug before you plug

705
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:25.639
somethings. He's still got Jimmy James
was not part of the plugging issue.

706
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:30.800
Who is still on the line with
you. Yeah, yeah, So we're

707
01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:34.920
gonna plug. I'm gonna just allow
me to plug here and then I'll pull

708
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:38.079
the plug, is what we'll do. So this was the age of transitions

709
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:43.920
on the Ocelly Radio network. The
website is the age oftransitions dot com,

710
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:46.280
do down, download the show,
subscribe to the show, share it with

711
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:51.199
people who you think are absolutely out
of their mind. They're just gonna love

712
01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:54.440
it. They're gonna eat this kind
of stuff up. Uh. My name

713
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:59.119
is Aaron Franz, and I will
leave you by saying secrets. Oh,

714
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:28.559
that's goodbye. M H. Wall
Street, window dot dot, gold Silver

715
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:36.400
the stock market, Wall Street,
window dot dot. Perhaps you're invested deeply,

716
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:39.119
Perhaps you're not in deep enough.
Maybe you're thinking about getting started.

717
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:45.079
Wall Street, Windows dot com,
doo dot com. Michael Swanson, the

718
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:50.199
brilliant author of the War State,
understood these trends professionally for many years,

719
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:54.920
and now he gives you the benefit
of his knowledge. Wall streetdo dot dot

720
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go there, now, go there. Now they're now bubble up. Bump

721
01:04:14.960 --> 01:05:04.599
bump, bump, bump b The
War State by Michael Swanson explains the great

722
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:09.960
national transformation that took place and put
the Kennedy presidency in the context of the

723
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:15.840
times and revealed never before published information
about the Cuban missile crisis. President Kennedy

724
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:18.440
would not have been assassinated if he
had been president two hundred years ago.

725
01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:24.000
His assassination took place in the context
of the Cold War and the rise of

726
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:27.920
the national security state. Before World
War II, the United States was a

727
01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:31.400
continental republic. In the decade that
followed, it became an imperial superpower.

728
01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:35.960
Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only
wanted to invade Cuba, but knew that

729
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:41.079
there were short range missiles on the
island armed with nuclear warheads that they could

730
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:45.039
not destroy because they were on mobile
launchers. Their invasion could have led to

731
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:48.320
a Third World War, and they
wanted to go to war anyway. The

732
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:54.159
War State by Michael Swanson reveals why
and will show you what President Kennedy was

733
01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:59.400
up against. For more information,
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Com. Do not necessarily reflect the
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736
01:06:04.599 --> 01:07:04.400
we are not responsible for any stupidity
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Mony, Money, Morning Money,
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