WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:06.440 Steve Rivera and Jagon Sallez. They have their eye on the ball on two 2 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:11.640 Suns Sports. Stay ye, Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live. I mean 3 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:16.879 I heard radio Appkay, welcome back to our on the ball here a Fox 4 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:20.440 Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Jagonzos, and I'm hoping you 5 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:26.440 have breaking news. I think I do. I up. This is I 6 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:32.039 on the Ball baking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, Um, 7 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:35.799 first of all, the NBA playoffs tonight, there are three series that 8 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:41.320 could close out tonight. Um. The Celtechs are at home against Atlanta with 9 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:45.920 a three one lead. Denver is at home against the Timberwolves with a three 10 00:00:45.960 --> 00:00:50.159 one lead, and the Sons are at home against the Clippers with the three 11 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:55.079 one lead, who are once again playing without. Yeah. Well, I 12 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:58.159 don't know that I love the guy, all right, good player. I 13 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.399 love the guy, good guy, good player, but I wouldn't want him 14 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.879 on Mike. But yeah, because if you don't, what's gonna play? 15 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:07.599 I mean, just completely unreliable player, whether it's the fault of his own 16 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.959 or not. He's not a guy that you ever know that you're gonna have 17 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:14.359 on the court from day to day. I got some breaking news just from 18 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:15.879 a friend of mine text me. I guess he was trying to get in 19 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:21.480 and he couldn't get in. Maurice Claret tried from Ohio State to apply for 20 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:25.680 the NFL hardship to enter the draft early tried, but he he tried to 21 00:01:25.719 --> 00:01:27.040 go in after two years. And part of it was because he got in 22 00:01:27.040 --> 00:01:30.000 trouble at Ohio State. Yeah, and so yeah, they declined that. 23 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:34.239 I remember that one, but he was he yeah, I'm from a hardship 24 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:36.439 sample, but it was he had only been out two years of school for 25 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:38.799 two years. Remember, Yeah, that's what I remember all that. But 26 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:42.280 anyway, so these three series can go tonight. Um, they're all over, 27 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:47.400 They're all over, but it's not worth betty. Yeah. Um uh, 28 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:52.319 Sacramento, i' mean Golden State one last night, so the last night 29 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:57.799 night before, who's the Lakers one last tonight tonight it's the Celtics against the 30 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:01.439 Hawks. Yeah, Celtics that comes on at four thirty Denver. At six 31 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:06.560 o'clock Denver at home against the Tea Wolves. Then at seven o'clock the Suns 32 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:09.400 against the Clippers. And the teams that are up three one are all at 33 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:14.919 home. So you you you put that together just to see the pas on 34 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:16.879 the money, Lyne parlayl those two are not even worth patty right, No, 35 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:20.439 no, no, if you put twenty bucks, you get ten bucks 36 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:22.680 back. Yeah. Not fun, no fun, no fun at that? 37 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:24.719 All right? Okay? What if I told you, Steve, you were 38 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:32.800 at a job and you could get a twenty nine hundred percent raise? Okay 39 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:39.520 to pictures? Do have to give Joe Burrow? She will be paid a 40 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:46.919 million dollars on his contract this year. The Bengals picked up the fifth year 41 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:53.840 option for on his contract, so he'll be a million this year. He 42 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.159 will make twenty nine and a half million nicks. What if you told me 43 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:01.879 or that you're going somewhere with I say, sign me up. Get her. 44 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:07.759 He's gonna make twenty eight million dollars more in twenty twenty four, twenty 45 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:12.120 three. I guess that's a motivation enough to not get hurt. But the 46 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:15.719 Bengals picked up the contract um and then you know, by the end of 47 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:19.479 twenty twenty four, probably before twenty twenty four, they'll one they'll want to 48 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:22.840 sign him to a new long term So give me just because we We're just 49 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:27.039 talking here the top four or five teams in the A and AFC. Now, 50 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.319 now with with Rogers going to the Jets, are they in the top 51 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:35.800 five. I wouldn't put him in there. No, some people did this 52 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:38.400 morning. A bunch of people are I don't see because the Jets almost got 53 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:43.479 to the playoffs. But I don't. I you know, I don't know 54 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:46.879 if they've got enough of the sporting cast. There's still the Chiefs, the 55 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:52.120 Bills, the Bengals. Bengals were two Chargers are still kind of there. 56 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:55.000 Yeah, who knows if two if TWA stays healthy? Right? The Dolphins 57 00:03:55.080 --> 00:04:00.439 the Dolphins, right, and uh, there could be who else? Um, 58 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:03.240 that's about it. Maybe who knows what's coming about the Ravens. Yeah, 59 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.759 you know where where Lamar Jackson's going. But but the Jets just because 60 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:11.560 of Rogers, I don't know. I don't nine years old and he's a 61 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:15.040 pain. I mean people because of it. You know this guys are good 62 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:19.120 enough. We need somebody else, Yeah, I you know that. There 63 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:25.240 was a discussion on on um on Dan Patrick this morning. Right, what's 64 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:30.000 what's a what's good enough for the Jets this year? And Dan Patrick said, 65 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:33.959 no, Pat said they got to get to the AFC champion or or 66 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:41.480 that, or it's a failure or that the trade that that the trade didn't 67 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:44.000 do what it was supposed to do. Where do we go with this? 68 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:46.399 Uh? Oh, with with Phoenix, the same kind of thing. If 69 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.079 they got this guy to kind of sell the ranch. If they don't get 70 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:53.199 there this year, maybe they built a prediction. But same kind of thing, 71 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:55.199 right, I guess yeah, And then you know, I mean one 72 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:57.000 of the other guys said, look, you know, they didn't even get 73 00:04:57.040 --> 00:04:59.439 to the playoffs last year, and now you're saying they go get Rogers and 74 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.279 they gotta get to the champions much a little money. And so then he 75 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:04.560 backed down, he said, Okay, they got to get a win, 76 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:08.800 a playoff win. I get that. Maybe that's more, you know, 77 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:13.079 more in line with what what you would expect from picking up. I mean, 78 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:15.759 you don't all of a sudden when guys is not gonna change the whole 79 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:17.759 thing. Right, But but then I think they went seven and ten, 80 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.639 right, seven and ten last year? Yeah, they didn't go to ten 81 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:24.959 and seven, seven to ten. If they go, uh maybe ten and 82 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:29.360 seven, get to the playoffs, win the game. Okay, let's remember 83 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.199 that he didn't win. He didn't over the last couple of years. Rogers 84 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:35.240 didn't do what he was supposed to do doctor two or three years ago when 85 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:41.079 he should have ran that Pa that you're still upset. Yeah, the Jets 86 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:44.199 won seven and ten. They actually finished last in the year. So you're 87 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:46.120 gonna tell me in the AFC, you're gonna tell me they're gonna go that 88 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:51.279 to go to Yeah, No, I know. I mean there's a there's 89 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:55.120 a whole bunch of teams in there that you gotta throw in there, you 90 00:05:55.160 --> 00:06:00.199 know. Uh, the Jaguars, right, they got to the playoffs with 91 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:02.720 with what's his name, Trevor Lawrence all of a sudden, you know, 92 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:06.120 are they are the Jaguars a team that you gotta you gotta mess around with. 93 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:10.439 So I got another text. Doesn't anyone remember when five went to the 94 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:15.439 Jets? There were still the Jets? Exactly? They exactly, they exactly 95 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.959 were the Jets, all right? Getting back to the NBA stuff, Um, 96 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:23.120 so if you want to do, if you do want to go bet 97 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:27.399 on these, the Celtics are minus nine fifty money line given away thirteen and 98 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.680 a half point. The Nuggets are given away ten and there are minus four 99 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:32.399 nine d do on the money line, and the Suns are giving twelve and 100 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:36.199 a half their minus. That's why, that's why those all double digit points 101 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:42.360 spreads in these three games. Somebody one of the underdogs will cover. The 102 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:49.639 question is which one? Yeah? Um, all right, uh oh no, 103 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:51.959 We're gonna get to this last because it's something that may take a little 104 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:56.240 bit of a conversation. Speak continue to talk about the NBA. D Air 105 00:06:56.319 --> 00:07:00.839 and Fox have busted a finger. He's saying he's playing tomorrow against the Warriors. 106 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.319 Need him, He's not going to sit out as opposed to Kawhi Leonard. 107 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.759 Yeah. They need him play because he's their guy. Yeah. Yeah, 108 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:15.040 Um do you remember this great? This this is ah this this day 109 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:17.959 forty seven years ago, this day in sports forty seven years Okay, baseball 110 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:25.240 related forty seven years ago, nineteen one seventy something. Yeah, Rick Monday 111 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:30.079 Okay, oks. No, he was with the Cubs Cups. Okay, 112 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:31.480 No, I don't He's with the Cubs. Are playing at Dodger Stadium, 113 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.600 Okay. And two guys run out on the field. He's in center field. 114 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.680 Two guys run out on the field and try to set an American flag 115 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:42.199 on fire. Oh and he and he runs buy and swipes the flag. 116 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:46.120 I can see the video now, yeah remember that. Yeah, forty seven 117 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:47.079 years ago to day. I thought you were gonna say, what's in the 118 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:51.560 kissing band with the Yeah? Yeah no no, So there's a there's a 119 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:55.759 picture of Rick Money. He still has the flag. Cool, he still 120 00:07:55.800 --> 00:08:00.639 had the flag anyways? Um, all right, Uh according to the Wildcast, 121 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.680 uh Justin Spear, the five star UH lineman from South Point, Uh 122 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:11.480 Elijah Rushing has Arizona on his list of visits official visit as he should as 123 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.600 he should have. But you know what, way better than what you know, 124 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.720 butthead did and all those guys yeah you know, uh way back when. 125 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:22.399 So he's uh, you know, jetfish. At least they're at least 126 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:26.439 they're in on him. Okay, let me bring this one up because we 127 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:30.600 ran out of time yesterday I wanted to talk about it. So we're bringing 128 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:35.919 We're bringing up Alabama. So two days ago I saw the player who's coming 129 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:39.200 out of the transfer portal going to Alabama and basketball from which to state? 130 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:43.840 From which state gets busted? Got He's with some guys. They got pot 131 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:48.559 in the car and three guns. Yeah, okay, so yeah, the 132 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.759 pot is a misdemeanor possession and they've got three guns. Nobody got shot, 133 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:58.840 Yeah, nobody got hurt, nobody got murdered. They kick him out. 134 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:01.639 He said, you're not coming to Alabama. We're not recruiting, right, 135 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.639 We're not recruiting anymore. We don't want you here. You're a bad guy. 136 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:11.639 Get the hell out of here. Brandon Miller, Well, that's takes 137 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:13.399 a gun to him, takes a gun. Well, that where a murder 138 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:18.240 occurs. And guess what you had. You're our guy. This this They 139 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:22.039 had no choice but to not take this guy. They had no choice because 140 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:26.360 of Brandon Miller that situation. Are you saying that they're hypocritical? What are 141 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:33.000 you saying? Exactly? They had no choice because that would be horrible to 142 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.559 do. And obviously the right where they got it wrong, right, of 143 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.159 course, the Brandon Yeah, you know, of course that's where they got 144 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:41.519 it. Of course. And now he's now they're calling him out on that 145 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:43.879 head. Oh yeah. Now the guy who hasn't gotten you too, you 146 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.960 know, that doesn't have a chance, isn't gonna win you a national championship. 147 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.360 That guy is out. But this guy got to stay when somebody got 148 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:54.200 murdered. No, I hear you, I hear you. I'm made hear 149 00:09:54.240 --> 00:10:03.039 you. I hear your tone. Hypocritical. Um uh the you have an 150 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:05.879 athlete program. They did what they call the cat Sea last night and a 151 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:11.799 bunch of awards given out. Football got the Freshman and Sophomore Player Athlete of 152 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:16.879 the Male Athlete of the Year with a team Mac got freshman and Jane Delora 153 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.679 got uh got sophomore. Um. There were a whole bunch of them, 154 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.159 you know, Uh, I think um, I think Delaney Schnell, she 155 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:31.039 got a senior athlete, right female se um kind of know it's cool stuff. 156 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:33.960 You know. They did a whole you know, red carpet thing. 157 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:41.039 I was following who who hosted it because uh um um um Todd Todd Walsh 158 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:45.120 was the MC last night, which I'm like, Steve, you know, 159 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:48.399 Stephen, I were local, we could have got it. I got to 160 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:56.200 suit. You gotta be cleaned, iron iron patch. Delane Snell got the 161 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:01.159 Ruby Award, which I guess is the best female athlete, and Jordan Guys 162 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:05.799 got the Sapphire Award. Well, A lot of which is the male athlete. 163 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.600 A lot of locals. The shell is from Andy Morrass. Allie Skaggs 164 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:15.360 from iwood Ridge was named the Junior of the Year. Grace Hallelufia from Mountain 165 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:20.120 View throws. She was the Vale Victoria Diego Mark mark as your your your 166 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:26.000 friends son edmund Son, you're the Male Community Service Award, right and condemn 167 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.240 carry right. We can't get him on the show. And he goes to 168 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:31.960 this thing and out over there. What the hell? It's funny because some 169 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.720 people ran into him. I see him kind of often as you're gonna come 170 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.480 on my show. Yeah, yeah, don't hear from him. Zula got 171 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:41.639 the Male Junior Athlete of the Year. Yeah, so that's it. That's 172 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:45.159 a kind that's okay. You know what all this says. Now schools as 173 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:46.279 sober. In two more weeks, it's going to be over. Yeah. 174 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:52.919 Carolina Male Grotty who we just talked about with the golfer with with she was 175 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:56.720 the sophomore, a female sophomore at Okay, okay, all kinds of cool 176 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:58.240 stuff. Okay, have you done. I'm done? Okay, So I 177 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:03.879 have a couple of Wolfgang Webber. Our guy from South Point was indected to 178 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:07.919 the Arizona Coach's Hall of Fame. He's won a few titles, nine titles, 179 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.320 know exactly because it's all pretty much Phoenix based. Right. Oh yeah, 180 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:20.240 let's let's let's try's find somebody in two seven hundred and thirty three wins, 181 00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:24.559 uh, eighteen and twenty seven. Just what a what a heck of 182 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.600 a heck of a run here? Uh Randy Ridi, David David Hines, 183 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:33.799 all Phoenix guys, Richard Taylor just you know, mostly Phoenix guys. But 184 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:39.679 but he was it was good. Uh. The South Point Women's girls volleyball 185 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.639 sound volley, well, we have to coach on last year when they won 186 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:45.039 the title back in the championships again, so you know, they kind of 187 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:50.360 have a little dynasty there. I think I think the meal Box daughter plays 188 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:52.799 with them. I think I'll have to check with Matt. Yeah, um, 189 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:56.679 you know, uh what else I think that's about it. Oh, 190 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:01.799 he looks like he's think that nack sin and he looks great, you know, 191 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:05.840 small smiles. You and I are both better looking than Todd Walsh. 192 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:15.320 Todd, don't listen to that. I need you. I'm just saying, 193 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:20.600 Steve, just say well, just say okay, uh go right before we 194 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.080 came out. I was listening. Uh, there's a reason we can't get 195 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.519 b John Robinson on our show was doing all these national shows. He was 196 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:31.360 on another show and he got asked if he could pick a quarterback to be 197 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:37.240 to play with that's not Patrick Mahomes, who would it be? And he 198 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:39.600 said, Jalen Hurts from the Eagles. And you know, you know, 199 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.240 he's only had in person visits with two teams, one of them being the 200 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:50.320 Eagles picked. So there's a lot of a lot of uh belief that that's 201 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:54.159 where he's going. But did you watch him much? Did you watch him 202 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:58.679 a lot? Jed a lot. I saw a lot of the game because 203 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:00.960 I wanted to see him, you know, I want to see him. 204 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.480 He was obviously I didn't watch him religiously, but I watched him, and 205 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:09.399 he was obviously he was. There were some runs that he had. There 206 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.120 were like Reggie Bush kind of ye right, but he's also you know, 207 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:15.919 Reggie was a little guy, right, so Reggie had to you know, 208 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:18.799 he had to be out in the open and stuff like that. Bejon'll run 209 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:24.080 your butt over, He'll kill you. But he also had not he doesn't 210 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.679 have the it doesn't do everything that Reggie Bush was able to do. But 211 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:30.559 he had some Reggie Bush type runs that were just like, you go, 212 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:33.440 how does a guy do that? I saw? I I you know, 213 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:37.600 I made it a point to watch him. If there's a Texas came on, 214 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.559 I watched some of it just to see him get there, you know. 215 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:43.399 And I told you you know, I had an intern at the Sugar 216 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:46.720 Sculls. It was a quarterback at CDO. And when when, uh, 217 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:50.480 you know, signed with Texas? I asked him, I said, it 218 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.720 is he Texas good? And he just like he smiled, He said, 219 00:14:54.200 --> 00:15:01.840 he's Texas good. Texas Texas. That's a different way, different thing than 220 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:03.600 Arizona. Right, Okay, let's go, let's go. We got all 221 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:07.279 right, we got John Feena coming on. 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This is 270 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:57.599 I on the Wall with Steve Rivera and Jacob Zalles on Flox Sports fourteen bid 271 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:02.480 days. Come back to watching the ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm 272 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:04.680 Steve BA, He's Jakin's often. Now on the phone, we have John 273 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:10.240 Peena, nineteen ninety two first round pick back in the day from the NFL 274 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:14.319 and a former Ulva football player. John, how are you? Oh, 275 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:19.240 I'm fantastic. How are you? Thirty one years? John? Does it 276 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:27.000 feel like it? It feels like every day where I wake up? Still 277 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:33.319 right? Still? Ye? Absolutely so, John, thinking back to that, 278 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:36.839 did you know? Did you know you're gonna be a first round draft 279 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:41.359 pick? I had an inkling. I had an inkling. M I did. 280 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:47.359 I did a workout with the illustrious Bill Belichick, and I had a 281 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:52.200 great combine. And then Bill worked me out and he tried to kill me 282 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:56.839 over the course of a round ninety minutes. Every position on the offensive line, 283 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:00.759 D line throwing me passes and any kind of snarled and you know, 284 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:04.319 a little bit of profanity under his breath, and I said, just coach, 285 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:07.839 what's wrong? Everything okay? And he's like a or a first round 286 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:11.920 pick, and I was shocked. I was frozen. I couldn't believe it. 287 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.480 I was paralyzed. I didn't even know how to react. He walks 288 00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:18.160 away. My agent comes up and looks at me. He's like, he 289 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:19.920 looked like you just saw a ghost. I said, I can't believe what 290 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:25.480 Belichick just said to me. So that was that was my only indication. 291 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:29.160 Of course, you know, he can. You know, one person loves 292 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:32.799 you, and you know at the time twenty seven others might not. And 293 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:34.000 then you slip into the second round, in the third round, in the 294 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:38.240 fourth round, or what have you. So it was great, man, 295 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:45.200 it was fantastic change, life changing obviously. Yeah. Yeah. And what 296 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:48.759 a great organization to be drafted too. I remember on draft day, you 297 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:52.519 know, getting that phone call. My agent's like, hey, the phones 298 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:55.359 for you, and I was like, who is it? You know, 299 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:59.720 it's John Butler with the Buffalo Bills, you know. And they did get 300 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:02.279 on the phone with you and they're like, hey, we're our pick is 301 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:04.880 coming up, and we have we've ided you. We want you to be 302 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:08.200 our guy. What do you think about that? And I'm like, are 303 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:12.240 you kidding me? Come on my way, I'll run across cold and naked, 304 00:21:12.480 --> 00:21:17.559 covered in far and fettered. So did you, I mean, what 305 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:19.759 did you know about what the Bills thought of you, you know, going 306 00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:25.079 into that then did you got a sense from them that you know that that 307 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:29.599 that could happen? Well? I met I met with them at the combine, 308 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:33.119 and of course Glenn Parker uh was with the Bills, right, so 309 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:37.880 I stayed fairly close with Glenn. Glenn was gracious enough as a as a 310 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.799 teammate to take my phone calls during the season and give me an idea of 311 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:47.960 what being an NFL player was like and what Buffalo was like. And he 312 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:52.640 seemed very happy. And I trust Glenn. So when that call came, 313 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:55.640 I was, you know, I was beyond thrilled. So let me ask 314 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:57.960 you, a character plays a big part of it. I'm curious because you're 315 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:00.759 a smart dude. You know, I teach you about it, but you're 316 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:03.079 very smarted. How much did you how much you think that played in the 317 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:07.759 interviews, the interview process. Well, I think it matters. You know, 318 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:14.880 references matter a lot um. The way you present yourself matters considerably when 319 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:18.599 it comes to the type of offense that the Bills ran at the time. 320 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.759 You had to hate to use the expression. You had to think on your 321 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:26.680 feet. We ran such a such a fast, no huddle offense, and 322 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:32.400 defenses would throw something at you and you had to You had to have absorbed 323 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:37.559 the playbook and every permutation of defensive alignment before the snap, so you were 324 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:42.000 blocking the right guy. And a lot of that was independent thinking because there 325 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:47.480 wasn't a time for There wasn't enough time always for the center to see the 326 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:51.119 defensive adjustment and get everybody in the right spot. You had to know it, 327 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:53.480 so you had to know the playbook. So yeah, so you get 328 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:57.880 drafted by the Bills in the first round. You're would you watch it here 329 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:03.240 from Tucson? Is that where you were? I was in Steenix. You 330 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:07.160 see, my agent had a big party about twenty players at the time, 331 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:11.200 and you know we were sitting in a big ballroom and just kind of watching 332 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:15.480 the draft. Man. So then what happens, Uh, do you immediately 333 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:18.880 whisk you off to Buffalo or you give me the next few days after you 334 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:25.160 got drafted? What how did that go for you? Well? You know 335 00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:29.119 they initially just gets you okay, yeah, well I'm good, draft me 336 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:33.240 sure love it. And then you know, after the draft, basically they 337 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:37.160 call you or called I think they called my agent and he said, hey, 338 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:40.279 you know, they've got a ticket for you. You're going to Buffalo 339 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:44.200 and you fly in there, and you know, a guy picks you up 340 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:47.799 from a van at the airport and takes you to the hotel and handy an 341 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:52.079 itinerary and you just you're like, you're like a kindergartener. You know, 342 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:56.400 they put the little uh V leashes on kids. That's what we were like, 343 00:23:56.720 --> 00:24:00.880 leaving us around. We didn't know what the hell to expect. Uh 344 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.799 you know, you're you're the new kid on the block. So three quarters 345 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.960 of the veterans just ignore it. If they're not ignoring you, they're making 346 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:10.920 fun of the intel you're doing the wrong thing and going the wrong way. 347 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:14.759 So it's a trial by fire, I can tell you though. Man, 348 00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:18.319 it was. It was April, right and I get to Buffalo, New 349 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:23.039 York and it's freezing. Call that just didn't expect it. For for the 350 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:27.720 end of April, we went out to practice and the wind was whipping through. 351 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:33.000 It had to be about twenty eight degrees freezing rain. Then I said, 352 00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:34.920 man, what if I said no on that phone? Call man that'd 353 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:42.240 be in San Diego right now. Yeah, damn temper that he called me. 354 00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:47.359 So what do kids going through uh now, like the first people expected 355 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:52.599 to go early, what are they thinking? Well, you know, if 356 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:56.680 you're if you're one of the quarterbacks or you're one of the defensive ends or 357 00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.119 wide receivers, you know, you're just you know, you're a top ten 358 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:06.160 pick. I mean it's pretty widely understood who probably the top fifteen guys are. 359 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:08.640 Um, you know they feel a little bit better. It's when you 360 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:12.880 when you feel like, oh man, am I first round? Second round? 361 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:17.640 You know, that's that creeping of doubt that gets into your you know, 362 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:19.519 your being and it's a little unsettling. You know, it's made a 363 00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:25.039 little hard to sleep. Now it's different now. I think the the number 364 00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:30.279 of visits that the teams have with players, the interviews and all that stuff, 365 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:33.599 it's so much more exciting and it's so much more public. I think 366 00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:37.480 that for the player it's got to be even even more. It's got to 367 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.279 be worse, right, the belt that butterflies in your belly, because if 368 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:47.000 you've visited ten or fifteen different teams, you know less and less. By 369 00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:51.440 virtue of the more teams that you've met with. So so as as the 370 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:55.839 draft is going on, had you got to do a point where you're hoping 371 00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:59.519 or thinking you were going to get drafted and then didn't, or was when 372 00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:00.880 you got that you were like, holy crap, it's way earlier than I 373 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:06.000 thought. What was going through your head as players were being drafted? Because 374 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.319 you gotta taken on like twenty seventh, they think, right, yeah, 375 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.960 twenty seven. For me, everything was a gift, yeah, because, 376 00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:17.240 uh, you know, coming off my senior season, I was relatively unknown. 377 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:21.640 I was widely regarded as you know, third fourth, fifth round pick, 378 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:23.920 and I kind of made my own story, you know. I went 379 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:27.680 to the combine, I had a great combine, interviewed really well, and 380 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:33.200 my stock just sort of started to rise. But I never really believed, 381 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:37.839 um that I was going to be a first round pick. I was hoping, 382 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:42.799 you know, late second third. So for me, heck, it 383 00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:48.279 was all it was all just you know, it was all cupcakes and and 384 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:51.319 soda. You know, it was a huge party. I didn't I didn't 385 00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:56.400 have any expectations, and the surprise was far better than what I could have 386 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.799 ever dreamed. And then you have this nice career of the but you never 387 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.160 imagine that too or you know, it takes a lot of hard work to 388 00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:08.519 get there and to stay there, it really does. You know. I 389 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:11.359 don't want to I don't want to sit on your call and sound like an 390 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:17.480 egomaniac or anything. But you you've got to keep it together for a long 391 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:21.519 time in the face of a lot of adversity. You've got you know, 392 00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:23.880 you've got responsibilities to understand what you're doing all the time. You've got to 393 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:26.359 be a great student of the game. You gotta stay in shape. You 394 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:30.240 gotta be lucky. You know I was. I didn't have any really bad 395 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:34.640 injuries. Um, you gotta be smart. Um. Some guys eat their 396 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.319 way out of the league. Some other guys dumb their way out of the 397 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.240 league. You know, I just I just realize that if I could stay 398 00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.200 off the ground, if I could at least be trying to block the right 399 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:52.000 position person and not have an assignment error, and if I didn't cause penalties, 400 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:53.680 then then you got a chance, you know, if it don't hurt 401 00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:59.200 the team, be in the right place and stay stay off the damn ground. 402 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:04.599 Yeah, So you get there, Glenn Parker's there did he not feat 403 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.039 you as bad as maybe some of the other veterans did, or did they 404 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.440 participate in that stuff and give you a hard time? Oh? You know 405 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:14.880 he participated. I mean, you know, you have to a little bit. 406 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.200 It's a you know, you can't you can't be like a total suck 407 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:22.279 toad as we used to say. You know, you got to be a 408 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.200 little bit tough. So Glenn gave me my rations. But on the side, 409 00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:30.759 Glenn was Glenn was a great mentor, you know, a great colleague 410 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:34.480 and a great friend. And Buffalo, Buffalo had really strong leadership in the 411 00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:40.559 locker room. Matters, Steve, It matters the way guys carry themselves. 412 00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:42.720 It doesn't hurt to be winning, of course, you know, the more 413 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.960 the more you win, the better the culture is in the locker room. 414 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.160 And Buffalo did a lot of winning before I got there, and did a 415 00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:55.160 lot of winning while I was there. So we were able to keep players 416 00:28:55.759 --> 00:29:00.319 focused and if guys really wanted to figure out a way them to get out 417 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.119 of the NFL, they they could figure it out. Yeah right, right, 418 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:07.200 who's your who's your first phone call? Were your parents with you at 419 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.440 the party? Who's your first phone call? Once you got drafted. So 420 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.799 it's a great story. I gotta tell you, it's a fantastic story. 421 00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:18.920 My parents, Um, we had exchange students from Spain and they had this 422 00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.200 big trip plan to go to Spain, and then, you know, the 423 00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.319 date of the draft comes out and my parents are like, oh my god, 424 00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:29.079 should we stay? And I'm like, I'm not getting drafted Spain? 425 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.519 Are you kidding me? Go I have a good time. So my parents 426 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.599 were actually in Lisbon or somewhere in Portugal at the time of the draft. 427 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.720 Um, they weren't here to celebrate it with me, but we celebrated, 428 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.599 you know, for a decade after and still continue to. I think the 429 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:51.920 first person I called was my brother David, whom you know, I was 430 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:55.880 pretty close with. And then I called Mark and Charlie and Jimmy and my 431 00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.200 sister Christine and let them know. And it was it was pretty wild, 432 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:04.519 you know that we weren't really in tune with it because I think I approached 433 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:10.279 it with such a sense of there's no way. I mean, I'm never 434 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.200 gonna make it in the NFL. Why would I even be drafted? So 435 00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.519 everybody kind of, you know, I kind of leaked off on everybody, 436 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.160 and it was all just like, hey, John's doing this activity. We'll 437 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.119 see how it turned out. Wow. So so you had to be kind 438 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.079 of pitching yourself, like, but when you put your head on the pillow 439 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:29.559 last night, could you even sleep? I really I couldn't believe it. 440 00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:33.240 I I after the draft was over that day, I sat and talked with 441 00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:38.200 my agent for a while and drove back down to Tucson, and I was 442 00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.480 just thinking to myself, this is this is a dream. I was like, 443 00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:48.359 what's next? I I the anticipation of everything was it was a little 444 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.279 overwhelming. I got home, I met up with some friends and we went 445 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.319 to some you know bars down to the university, and we were all just 446 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.440 kind of laughing about it. You know, it's well, you know, 447 00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.960 pie eyed, thinking, how is this even possible? Well, it's hilarious. 448 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.319 It's a It was a great it was a great day, great week, 449 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.599 I mean, and then of course training camp started and that all turned 450 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:12.160 around. Enjoy what you can. Right, by the way, so how 451 00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:18.079 was your son enjoying UCLA brows doing terrific? You know, he's he's battling 452 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:23.799 the spring for a starting job. I'm very close with him, so we 453 00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:30.039 do teams meetings and review film together or team zoom, whatever you want to 454 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.240 call it. Skype Um, we look at film, give him. You 455 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.440 know, I always ask him, what's your coach? Say, you know, 456 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.680 what are you trying to achieve? There's different philosophies of technique, and 457 00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:42.480 I don't want to try to break anything and say, you know, he's 458 00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:45.759 teaching it wrong. There's there's more than one way to skin a cat. 459 00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:51.279 And you know, he's doing really well. My younger son is going into 460 00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:56.400 his junior year at sell Point and he'll be playing UM varsity football. And 461 00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:00.000 my girls are doing great. Everything's everything's you know, I can't complain. 462 00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:02.680 How's that? So? Do we have another draft pick in the making over 463 00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:08.400 there at UCLA? You know, it's it's so hard to tell them. 464 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:13.279 I mean, you got so a thousand things have to go right for you 465 00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:15.640 to even get in that position. You know, it really has to be 466 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:20.319 the right timing. It's going to be developmentally, the timing for you, 467 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.799 opportunity for the timing of you. You know, you've you've really got to 468 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:28.319 be able to put everything in the right place. Um, I'm not gonna 469 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.799 lie though, I mean I did talk to the Buffalo Bill's leadership when I 470 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:35.079 was there about eight months ago and said, hey, keep this kid on 471 00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.319 your radar, and they're like, who's that. I'm like, my son, 472 00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:44.359 sure, br guy, exactly exactly? Who what? What? What 473 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:49.119 did you get at Arizona? You're planing at Arizona. What was the most 474 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.440 important thing that happened to you there that you know made you a first round 475 00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:57.160 draft pick? You know what? Was it a coach? Was that a 476 00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:00.160 scheme? Was that? What the position you played? Me? What made 477 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:04.440 you? What was it of theirs one that made you went to into the 478 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.759 first round pick that you eventually became. Wow, that's a that's a big 479 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.400 question. That's a big open ended question there. Don't you know what you're 480 00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:15.400 supposed to answer? Yes, small question. Well, look, the first 481 00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:17.680 thing, give credit to Anna Chuck Fena. I mean they raised five boys 482 00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.079 and a daughter and we busted our asses around the house. Yeah. Um, 483 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.160 you know, we worked our butts off. A lot was expected of 484 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:29.880 us, both in the classroom and around the house. And you know, 485 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.759 you started there so you had the ethic, you had the leadership and family, 486 00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:37.079 and then you get to the opportunity to play Mark Lunsford was my recruiting 487 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.799 coach, and Mark believed in me, and he lobbied for me and helped 488 00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.640 me get that opportunity. And then you know, with Dick Toomey's leadership of 489 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:52.079 toughness, of discipline, of resilience and the types of practices. You know, 490 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:57.119 Dick was a sweetheart, but not on the field and not at practice, 491 00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.599 and and that's a better official for a football player. You know, 492 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:05.640 you got to be ridden pretty damn hard. And then, as luck would 493 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.400 have it, you know, the venerable Pat Hill became my coach and and 494 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.639 we spent an intensive year together. Or he challenged me and said, you 495 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:17.239 know, you could play this game at the next level, and you just 496 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.159 gotta you gotta come in early and learn. You gotta watch film and learn 497 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.119 defenses, and you gotta stay late, and you gotta hone your craft. 498 00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:30.440 And it was, you know, the confluence of great coaching and great parenting 499 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:36.559 and you know luck and timing, and you know, just a great big 500 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:40.119 cauldron of wonderful stuff cooking up for me. And I took advantage of it. 501 00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:45.400 And and it's been a wonderful run. The last time, just last 502 00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.360 last question, we talked to you on a sad note. But it's a 503 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:57.760 miracle Hamlin. How about that? Um? You know, as I watched 504 00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:01.559 the game and I saw DeMar Hamlin go to the turf and people thought you 505 00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:06.639 know this or that, I immediately knew that it had to be something else, 506 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:10.400 um with some sort of heart condition, because you don't, you know, 507 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:14.760 you stand up and it's it's you know, you're waiting for the oxygen 508 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:16.639 to deplete, and that's what caused him to pass out. Right, So 509 00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:20.480 if it was a neck injury or anything of that nature, he had never 510 00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:25.840 stood up, So there's just a moment it happened. And seeing him fall 511 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.760 the way he did, I thought, oh my god, this is this 512 00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:34.360 is cardiac um And initially I thought, oh my god, and then it 513 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.639 kept going on and I thought there's no way. I mean, how's he 514 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:42.239 survived. And then the miracle that he survived, all the healthcare professionals and 515 00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.760 everybody in the world really coming and paying attention to it. And now that 516 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:51.639 he's recovering and and and he's cleared to play, I think it's an amazing 517 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.440 world. It's the medicine, the teams that were around him, it's it's 518 00:35:55.559 --> 00:36:00.119 really just it's invigorating, right, I mean, it really makes you want 519 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:05.280 to believe in something greater than yourself. And you know, it's nice that 520 00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.719 it's nice that happen around football and kind of a weird way, you know, 521 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:13.599 because people get very emotional about the game and you know, they see 522 00:36:14.039 --> 00:36:19.280 they see great things and sad things, and I don't think always people understand 523 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:23.079 the type of physical danger that players are in. And then one of my 524 00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:30.920 teammates, Mark Maddox, he had a Bill's Watch party during the playoffs and 525 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:36.840 they raise money to get ads at you know, every school, every not 526 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.400 playground. But you know, makes me sure that when kids go out and 527 00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:43.960 play a soccer game that there's an ad there and there's somebody trained to use 528 00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:45.800 it. Right. Well, John, great to have you on the show 529 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:52.079 is always I'm at a Google confluence right now, and well have you got 530 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.880 on suit? I always love talking to you. Well I don't even know 531 00:36:54.960 --> 00:37:00.599 if I used it right, but I ad to Google. That was it? 532 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:07.440 Thank you, Thank you, I will, Thanks John, Thanks a 533 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:17.599 Bouch. Sorry you guys, take care of go Cultron exactly. Oh my 534 00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:22.039 gosh. All right, let's let's go ahead and hit the road before we 535 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:24.599 get ourselves in any Moore trouble. So wait, we're right back. We'll 536 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.280 take your calls last second five two zero, four, one, six, 537 00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:30.960 seventy four, forty h some of your thoughts on the NFL draft. 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Let us know what you're thinking about NL or how Arizona 604 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.760 is gonna do. Tomorrow's a big day apparently. What if they don't get 605 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:31.119 them the car? Yeah? Two song burn down. I don't know, 606 00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:37.360 you don't what I don't want to know? Ye, sick of our fans. 607 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.760 They're probably sick. They're not my fans are Yeah, they're probably sick 608 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.079 of me too. So that's all right, or at least they're sick of 609 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.000 me saying that. Um you fun conversation with John because you know, I 610 00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.480 mean, look, we're a little we're little kids. We're growing up. 611 00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:53.880 You're playing football, playing baseball, whatever, and you thought you I'm gonna 612 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.400 be a I'm gonna be a pro baseball player and be a pro football player. 613 00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.559 Right. But to know that he went into the drafting and I'm a 614 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.639 second or third round pick, a Sidden his name comes up in the first 615 00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:05.840 round. I can't even imagine, but that that would have been like, 616 00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:08.199 no, I know, uh, here you are, first round making that 617 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:12.280 type of money. Yeah, I'm living in a nice life, but but 618 00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:16.400 realizing I gotta work. I got some work to do because as you said, 619 00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:19.360 you know, and as you said to him, it's not just getting 620 00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:22.519 there and staying there, right, And he stayed there for a long time. 621 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.360 Yeah, um got to some super Bowls and stuff, but uh, 622 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:30.719 you know, it's it's, uh, you think about the work that it 623 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:32.840 takes to get there, you know, and there's so many and I guess 624 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:37.840 you know, there's so many people that you know, it's like it's expected, 625 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:39.280 right, they take things for granted. Then they get there and they 626 00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.880 screw it up, and as he said, there's a million ways to get 627 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.239 out of the league, right, Um, you know, and uh, 628 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.800 I just it's just great to see that somebody that he really had an appreciation 629 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:52.320 for it. I guess that is what I'm trying to say, because it 630 00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.159 was unexpected. Um. I mean I remember when he got you know, 631 00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:59.039 when the draft came round, He's like, really, phena win in the 632 00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:02.000 first round, right right? But that's cool. I'm thinking that he he 633 00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:06.159 went off, it was I can't remember this. Maybe you do. What 634 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:09.000 did he play a different position and then he moved him to an offensive line? 635 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.760 I think so because he was he was a thin dude. Yeah, 636 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.840 early on. I think I should ask. But he was recruited as right 637 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:21.360 right right, and then like you said, Dick, tell me has that 638 00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.880 knack of finding the right figger out where somebody should go right right? I 639 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:27.480 think so I could be wrong. If anybody knows, keep us a call. 640 00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:30.480 But if you were, these are of Arizona and how to fix this? 641 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:34.800 N I L what would you do? Within reason? Do you have 642 00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.039 that a solution? So you have that answer, let us know because everybody 643 00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:42.440 has these answers. Um, or questions and no one has a solution, 644 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.280 but he's got the answer. No, it's not that easy. Oh, 645 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:47.159 the best looking dude is not always gonna get the best girl. It just 646 00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:51.039 doesn't happen anyway anymore. Yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah. Now 647 00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:52.719 I'm like, I'm googling John Feeney. It looks like he was a line, 648 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.159 right. I think he might have been a defensive line maybe maybe maybe 649 00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:59.000 you know, when you're at you're that good. Yeah, probably so I 650 00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.639 think they moved to they made him an offense. That makes sense. That 651 00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:06.280 was probably yeah, but uh, you know again he named off his whole 652 00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:09.440 family and his dad was an orthopedic surgeon, I remember, yeah, and 653 00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:14.199 stuff. So they had the season tickets of basketball right behind the team all 654 00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:16.280 these years. I'm pretty sure they still do. Yeah. But again, 655 00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:20.360 it's fun, fun to talking about all that. I can't even imagine what 656 00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:22.000 that day would have been like, if you know, because when you think 657 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.480 about something like Aaron Rodgers, right, who dropped, you know, way 658 00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:30.760 low in the draft, He's like sitting there every every you know, every 659 00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:32.920 uh team that was picking. He thought this is the one. Yeah, 660 00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.840 that's why I asked him that he said was there a point where you're going, 661 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:37.920 Okay, I should have been drafted. I should have been drafted. 662 00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:43.119 He's no, I got drafted way earlier than sure. Right, Yeah, 663 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.840 I thought that was very cool. Right, that's very cool. You know. 664 00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:49.360 Good luck to be Jean Robinson, right, all accounts a great kid, 665 00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:52.079 you open. It goes well for him. On Thursday and we got 666 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.920 a call her hire on the army on the ball and how's it going today? 667 00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:59.360 What's up, Brian? When are you getting drafted in the NFL draft? 668 00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:05.719 Are are you getting Are you getting drafted this week? Uh? Well, 669 00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:12.840 they don't have a senior league, do they? What's up? I'll 670 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:16.679 just talk about my favorite topic, the n I lay us. As Jay 671 00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:20.880 said, there is no answer. And the problem they have no answer with 672 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:27.519 this is because there was no uh guidelines to begin with. Right, And 673 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:32.119 so you're gonna have a hard time putting restrictions on kids after you haven't had 674 00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:36.559 any. And that's gonna be because they'll wind up in court. Again, 675 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.199 that's true, that's true. And who's who you were talking about. The 676 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:44.159 students don't want to get into a union, They don't want to do anything 677 00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:45.920 like that, right, They just want to live their life and they want 678 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:51.880 to I want to play and get paid, right, Yeah. One of 679 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:54.920 the problems and you know, I I see with the NFL and you know, 680 00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:58.719 and a lot of and not a lot of schools that will happen. 681 00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.559 It's gonna be player jealousy. Well, yes, that was the first thing 682 00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:06.360 that I thought of. Yeah, way back when it first, when it 683 00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:08.199 was first happening, you said, wait, what's going to happen when the 684 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:13.519 center is getting nothing in the quarterback, even a quarterback who sucks, is 685 00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:20.360 getting something? What the what the hell? You know? I think I 686 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.840 think there needs to be guidelines in the sense. I know football has that 687 00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:30.039 apply April fifteenth. You got that two week period. Okay, yeah, 688 00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.440 yeah, well you can enter, you can try and get in the transport 689 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:37.559 port portal. But what they need to do is have it for every sport. 690 00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:39.559 I don't I don't know if they do or not. But you know, 691 00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:45.800 once basketball season is over, after the last championship game, you got 692 00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:49.480 a two week period of being the portal. That's it that you know, 693 00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:52.000 and that kind of stuff they can do, right, that kind of stuff 694 00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.119 they can do. I mean, I mean, I have no idea what 695 00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:59.880 baseball is like you know, I mean, because you don't hear a bunch 696 00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:02.920 of about it because it's not one of the major sports, right, Yeah, 697 00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.400 so no, you're right, You're right again. We talked about putting 698 00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.239 the toothpaste back in the tube. It's just it's just not gonna happen. 699 00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:14.320 I don't I don't know how. They never gonna happen, right, never 700 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.440 gonna happen. But I think if you put more I did. Notice that 701 00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.960 was it? Colorado had uh thirty one players who entered the portal in the 702 00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:29.679 last week. Yeah, forty eight total total. Yeah, since he got 703 00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:35.079 there, Yeah, the whole new Yeah. Actually forty eight scholarship players is 704 00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:38.800 what they're saying have left. Yeah, and they had like eighteen of them 705 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:46.000 were after the spring game. Yeah yeah, yeah, so just incredible. 706 00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:50.239 I mean, you know, I have no idea if Colorado is going to 707 00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:53.960 be good or not. I don't expect him to. You know, well, 708 00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.480 if they if they if they, if they are, it's with all 709 00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.719 new players because they don't have anybody left, right all right, Hey, 710 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:07.079 Brian, thanks a much, man as always calculator. Here, something just 711 00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:15.639 came across um the the the Remember there was that rec where Georgia football staff 712 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:20.360 member was driving while the player. The family of the player who was killed 713 00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:25.119 in that crash has us has notified the University of Georgia that they planned to 714 00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:29.719 sue for at least two million dollars. I'm gonna say that's probably not enough. 715 00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:32.599 Shoo the who, the school s, the school because they were not 716 00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:36.559 supposed to be in that car, right and that right, and and it 717 00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:40.440 was a school employee was out there. Anything was dui right? Uh yeah, 718 00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:46.480 they were speeding day right, right, So that that just came across 719 00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:52.239 on some of our breaking news manas right, well, we'll see what happens. 720 00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:54.800 The draft is Thursday, right, Thursday, The first round only is 721 00:49:54.840 --> 00:50:00.840 on Thursday, and uh, you know, widely considered be John Robinson the 722 00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:06.360 top point could widely consider the first uh running back to be picked. Um 723 00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:08.920 or people think he's gonna be picked. Just the question is how high will 724 00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:14.519 he go? Uh, you know, there's more people saying he'll be lower 725 00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:16.280 in the first round, but that he'll be a first round pick. And 726 00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:21.239 a lot of people are saying the Eagles, right, and we talked about 727 00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.239 this, ESP destroyed a generational player. He just came out in the wrong 728 00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:28.920 generation, right right? Yeah, just how he been again? I mean, 729 00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.119 you know, does he does he get five years in the league, 730 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:36.199 you know, I mean there, I mean Ezekiel Elliott is already maybe out 731 00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.599 of the league this year, right right, he yeah, he got he 732 00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:42.840 got cut by the Rams and I mean the Cowboys, and nobody's picked him 733 00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.440 up. So, I mean, it's it's it's a it's a tough goal, 734 00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:49.719 you know, especially I when we look at cadem the dude was very 735 00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:52.920 very good, right, and he lasted maybe three four you maybe he'll be 736 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.039 it out of him and I you know, I don't know. It's just 737 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.360 but you know what going get in there, may your money and get out 738 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:04.519 with your health. That's the main you know. You know, I was 739 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:08.760 watching there was a somebody posted a highlight of Earl Campbell one of those runs 740 00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:12.880 where he just ran over like ten people on the way to the end zone. 741 00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:15.400 And now the guy can't even walk. Yeah, you know, and 742 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:17.400 you think, in the end, how great was it to you know, 743 00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:22.440 to get paid, But in the end of your life is just well that's 744 00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.239 part of it. I mean he John joked about it, joked about getting 745 00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:28.800 out of bed. Of course, we all suffer those problems. But these 746 00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:31.280 guys are major. Yeah, that's big, that's way. My little shoulder 747 00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:35.360 is not nothing to compare to. I was with John with I was with 748 00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:37.840 the Huney brother said Rickie had just gone through knee surgery. He talked about 749 00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:42.880 all the injuries that he had and he's sixty one like you or sixty whatever 750 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:46.400 it is, sixty three, and uh, there's still effecting all these times, 751 00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:51.000 for all these years. Yeah, more players and I don't have to 752 00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:53.400 go through that because I'm a weenie. More players from Colorado going into the 753 00:51:53.639 --> 00:52:00.079 portal today. Oh my god, yeah, oh my god. I don't 754 00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:02.639 know. I guess what what do you know? What's he doing right? 755 00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:06.920 Either he's pushing him or they said, I don't need any of this quote 756 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:08.119 he's kind of saying, and he did get quoted as saying, look, 757 00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:09.800 if somebody doesn't want to be here, I don't want to be here, 758 00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:14.000 sure, which everybody says that, right, sure, but said, you 759 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:15.360 know, I hope they do well wherever they go, But if they don't 760 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:17.159 want to be here, then what else can you do? Right? I 761 00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:21.639 don't want him hear either that you have That has to be the philosophy. 762 00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:23.800 That's your philosophy, has to be the philosophy. All right, good show 763 00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:29.320 went fast, went really fast again. So we're we're gonna be back tomorrow, 764 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:31.880 more guests. We'll talk some more NFL draft and will hopefully have some 765 00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:36.000 more great guests. We know we'll have some more great guess all right, 766 00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.360 so be sure to come back tomorrow and we'll have some more good stuff for 767 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:53.559 you. So see you tomorrow. Don't stop, don't running the world, running back