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You're listening to your worst friend going
Deeper. If you're listening to your worst

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friend going Deeper with Shane and Matt. This is season four. I normally

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do a little intro, like real
short around this, but I have to

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say we did our first. Let
me do a quick thirty second backstory.

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Did our first intro our interview in
this space with Dan and Suzanne Ferrari of

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slought inspection dot com. I met
them on Reddit. They were interested in

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talking about their lifestyle and stuff like
that, and I thought it would be

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fun. That video and that podcast, you know, got six times the

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amount of downloads as our normal show
does, if not more than that,

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So I went, hey, maybe
there's a lane here talking to people in

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the adult industry. Second interview we
ever did was with Gauge. Gauge was

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a classic porn star. Shane and
I are in our mid thirties here,

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so you know, she was right
in our prime. And after I did

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that, I said, there's a
certain mount Rushmore I would love to hit.

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Okay, three of them are older
performers no longer in the industry some

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of them, and one is a
current modern day performer. And those performers

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were Gia Paloma, Gianna Michaels who
is still performing, Tammy Andrews, who

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left the industry a while ago,
and our guest today. So if I

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sound a little shaky voice or nervous
or you know, freaked out, which

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you haven't heard me do in almost
two hundred episodes of doing this show,

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including one where we buried my father, essentially, that's why our guest today

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is the lovely Now, this is
what I should have confirmed beforehand. This

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is one of those things I should
have confirmed. Do you go with the

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and this is not me trying to
brag like I did some sort of research

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beforehand. Do you go with the
single syllable last name, the multiple syllable

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last name, or the French version
of the last name. So I'm just

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like a big troll and in each
interview like I'll change the way I pronounce

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it because I'm not French, I'm
not good at saying French things. And

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also like it's not really something that
I take super seriously. Sure most people

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call me goth Charlotte nowadays. Anyway, if I would have known, like

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you could have had like a stage
name as silly as that, I would

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have picked it. But yeah,
you could call me whatever you want,

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and yeah, I really don't mind. Ladies and gentlemen, today, our

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guest, Miss Goth Charlotte, Charlotte
Start or Charlotte Sarteur. You can find

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her on Twitter, Instagram and only
fans. And let me tell you,

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she must be a social media genius
because she has somehow squore squirt it well,

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I mean that is Freudian right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, she has like
squirmed around all of the big tech sensors

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out there who are trying to boot
sex workers and porn stars and everything else.

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Because her name is consistent among all
of Twitter, Instagram and only fans.

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Goth Charlotte. And if you want
to pick up one of her t

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shirts, do you have other merch
on there as well? Or no?

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Um, I want to make ashtrays
soon. That's pretty cool and I've got

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hoodies right now? Okay, cool
Goth Charlotte dot store. You're gonna head

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over there, Ladies and gentlemen,
our guest today, Charlotte Start. Hi,

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Guys, how you doing this is
really amazing because, like I said,

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you are the current modern day performer
where I go. This girl just

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nails everything about my I don't want
to sound like a creep. I'm going

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to sound like a creep later on. But this girl just nails everything about

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my preferences. I go love a
girl who can't catch a tan if she

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tries. I love the dark hair, I love the style. Shane,

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what is my bangs great? Shane? What's my fetish with clothing? Uh,

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it's not latex, it's leather.
No, it's latex, it's not

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leather. So you know, you
just you, you nail all this stuff.

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And then if you dig deeper and
you go to any of your social

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media, you just seemed cool too. I know, I sound real boy

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in my email to where I let
her know, I'm like, look,

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I'm not just some simp that's just
trying. And then the first ten minutes

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for me just going, do you
know how fucking great you are? Chris

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Farley and those old SNL clips,
Um, do you like doing stuff?

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But he's a simp band and uncle, let's jump into this. Can I

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ask you how you decide it to
get into the industry and what that first

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step was like for you? Well, I I was really liked Lauren,

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and I was really interested in exploring
my sexuality and having a flexible job.

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I started webcamming first of all on
my freecams, and then I was just

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kind of like emailing different sites.
And I lived in the Bay Area at

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the time, so naturally I was
a huge kink dot com fan, and

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I really liked BDSM in my personal
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I randomly got a Twitter DM from
some dude who said, oh, hey,

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do you want to get into porn, Like, I know this agency

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you could get with. And it
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like shady agency in Florida. I
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so if I don't recommend getting into
porn that way. But they introduced

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me to the site Asylum with two
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for them, and then I dropped
the agent and I asked the producer of

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the site, Hey, do you
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me? So he got me an
interview with kink dot Com and I may

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have been like one of the only
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in porn. But they called me
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Seney, who was the head of
the town Department at the time, I

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believe that was the job position,
and we just talked about things I was

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interested in, things I'd like to
try, and in short order, I

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was shooting a lot of scenes for
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on set who would introduce me to
other like producers they liked to work for.

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So it's just kind of been a
a slow, like snowball of meeting

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people in networking. And I'm sure
if I had like a good agent and

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stuck with it, I'd be like
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my story and how it happened.
You know What's so interesting. Every time

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we talked to a grow it seems
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it feels like, oh, you
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and be pretty. And yet every
time we talk to somebody, it sounds

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like you need to know how to
dominate social media and you need to know

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how to network with people and be
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collaborate and this and that. So
it's just so many people probably have the

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wrong impression of the industry, which
is so interesting to me because I don't

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know. I you know, it's
it gets such a bad rap I guess,

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you know, because of dumb religious
people or prude people or whatever it

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is, but they don't see all
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It feels like, so, yeah, there was no question there.

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That was just interesting to me.
So if you've been agent free this whole

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time, your entire your entire career, so to speak, you've been just

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self managing, self promoting everything.
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worked in Europe, about half the
time I was in Prague, I was

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getting shoots. That Proxy Page,
who was my agent out there, she

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had a working relationship. She still
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companies out there, so she was
really helpful for that. But in America

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and completely self represented, self booking. And I haven't been out to Europe

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in a few years anyway, so
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Proxy Page one of my favorite performers
of all time. Let me ask you,

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now, do you do you have
anything and you don't have to go

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into detailed negative about shooting out there
because our friend Avery Jane, beautiful African

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American former loves going to Prague and
specifically Prague. Did you you know,

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again, you don't have to go
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experience or have you just not been
out there because of COVID or have you

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just decided to stay stateside more?
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in Prague, and it's so fun
to be able to combine like a vacation

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and a work trip. And I've
seen like so many beautiful things there.

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I met so many amazing people.
I love the type of content out there.

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I've always been a big fan of
European porns, so you have to

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go there to get the real deal. It's just tough, like being on

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a plane for like twelve hours,
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And then I've mostly been focusing on
directing lately and shooting my own content,

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and I'm hardly on set like as
a performer as much as I used to

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be. I'm I have a couple
scenes next week, but I'll maybe do

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like two or three a month now, where I used to be doing like

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two or three a week. So
I've just adapted and I'm changing sure,

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and I'm also lazy. I want
Shane to take a guess at this because

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I read this somewhere and I want
to see if Shane can get it.

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You'll have three guesses, Shane,
Charlotte here went to college for something,

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and I want to know if you
want to try and take a guess and

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figure out what that job is.
And I'm going to segue that into a

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question about directing, if that's okay, Shane, what job profession career?

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Did Charlotte originally go to college for
veterinarian? No dentist, no philosophy,

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No, Charlotte, what was that
job that you went to school for.

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I major to accounting. I wanted
to focus in taxation, but I eventually

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decided that I like doing porn better
than doing taxes. So originally I was

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looking, you know, through past
interviews you had done and stuff like that,

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seeing if you had any kind of
a media background. Now it seems

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like you were going to school for
something that could have been a real job,

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unlike me going to school for communications, where I learned how to use

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you know, a camera and direct
TV and do radio, which, hey,

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you know, maybe it'll turn into
something someday. But did you just

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have a strictly on set desire to
learn the behind the camera aspect. Did

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you have anyone who kind of mentored
you towards that? And is that a

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reasonable jump that I'm not asking you
to understand the knowledge or the intellect of

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other performers. But do you think
if a girl performs for long enough in

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this industry she can pick up enough
to become a director behind the scenes.

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I think it really depends on what
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people just want to show up to
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and they just want to be told
what to do and not have to

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think about that. And there's something
really nice and attractive about that that I

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also enjoy from time to time.
I since most of us are shooting our

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own content, I would say,
like the majority of us are shooting our

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own content, we in a sense
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and so that part transfers, you
know, really naturally to directing.

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The way I got the job at
Kink dot Com is this was during a

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time when nobody was directing at Kink
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like in the COVID era, and
it had been like a long time discussion

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because at the time nobody else was
directing everything, but so and that's like

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my favorite shit, like no pun
intended. But I thought or JP thought

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I would be a good fit for
it, so he got me a meeting

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with the CEO at the time,
Alison. It's since changed a couple of

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times since then who the CEO is. But I had some interviews again,

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like more porn interviews, and yeah, that's been almost two years now,

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and I really really enjoy it.
I love it so much. And I

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think a lot of women, like
when they've been in porn for a while,

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it seems really natural to transition into
directing, and I think, like

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I'm seeing like Casey Calvert is absolutely
amazing. Kensey Taylor's also directing my dear

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friend Lydia Black. I'm working for
her next week. She's also directing for

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kink Now. And it's been really
cool to see all these perverted women behind

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the lens. Not like I'm actually
like filming, like we have a great

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videographer who's much better than me,
like shaking hands, recording stuff. But

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it's my ideas at least, is
there is there a shift in the style

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Lettle from going from a male director
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perverts able to take on that thing
and kind of just run with it and

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go, this is the I'll keep
the same style because I've seen sights in

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the past that I've been a fan
of and not kink. Not that I'm

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not a fan of kink, it's
just I'm not talking about that one in

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this instance where all of a sudden, maybe they get bought out, maybe

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they change something, maybe they upgrade
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and it kind of loses it's what
may what it was. So are

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you conscious of understanding the style as
it was before and then adding your own

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flare to it, or are you
coming in almost clean slate and going,

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this is what Charlotte's gonna do.
Charlotte wants to do it this way.

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So that's a really good question.
And my approach has changed quite a bit.

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When I first started, I thought
I would do something completely different and

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I would shoot things that I wanted
to see that I felt like there wasn't

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as much of a market for or
a niche for. But the members,

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you know, if they're subscribed to
a site for a long time, they

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really like the way things used to
be. And I studied a lot of

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the older scenes, like from different
directors because it's changed hands like so many

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times throughout the years, like like
Marty Ariolex and I don't know if I

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can say who the last director was. I don't know if it's a public

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knowledge or if they're using a stage
name. But this person is also super

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amazing. And now I'm planning some
shoots that are callbacks to the very very

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early Everything, but stuff that the
members like. And I've also tried some

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new things, like I shot Natalie
Mars in a scene with me, and

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she's the first transperformer to be on
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be boy Girl or Boy Girl Girl
anal. But the pastor of early years

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it's been just sis women, duos
and trios. So now I'm trying to

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I'm hoping to shoot more trans women
occasionally, and I'm hoping to sprinkle some

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guys in there as long as they
don't get the way, but still keeping

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the the hardcore lesbian interactions being the
main focus. If that make sense,

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well yeah, yeah, totally makes
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you said, you started with Asylum, which I have seen. Hey,

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not my preference only because it's it's
it's intense, it's hardcore. Uh.

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But I grew up in the state
and we went to a girl who in

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high school shot for facial abuse dot
com. Not gonna ask for an opinion

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if you don't want to give it
on that one. But I've been exposed

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and seen some pretty hardcore stuff,
you know, since we were at my

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high school graduation party, showing everybody
at my party that girls video. Um,

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not in a shitty way. We
weren't bullying or she enjoyed it maybe?

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Uh, yeah, we had we
respected it. Um. But has

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that always been your personality or was
that a jump where you just have you

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been more of like an extreme type
person in your life in that sense where

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you know that is not shocking in
your own personality or was this a total

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leaping from your comfort zone type thing
shooting some of those more extreme bondage type

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scenes or or you know, rough
scenes. You know, I don't know

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what the correct nomenclature would be to
refer to those things as. But yeah,

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is that is that a change from
your personality when you were younger?

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Maybe? Or is that kind of
how you've always been? I think I've

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always been exploratory. My philosophy when
I got into porn was I just wanted

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to stand out. So I tried
to pick a name that nobody else had,

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and I tried to do scenes that
nobody else seemed to want to do.

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Some things might not necessarily be my
cup of tea or something I do

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in my personal life, but I'm
willing to try almost anything, and I've

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been pleasantly surprised. Some things I
thought I wouldn't like. I've turned out

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to love just from being adventurous and
open minded and experimental. Nowadays, I've

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found my niche and the things I
really enjoy. But at the beginning,

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I think I also got pigeonholed because
the first few scenes I did were so

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extreme. Companies just expected that from
me, which is totally cool and stuff

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that I'm willing to do, and
then gosh, I shot for legal pornos.

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So many times, I've just like
really fallen into the anal niche,

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which I enjoy. I haven't done
like any gang bangs in the last few

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years. It's probably been Yeah,
I think it's been like almost three years

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now, But I still love putting
things in my butt. But um,

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there's some things I've tried like only
once, like um, like piss water

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boarding and um like putting what was
it egg beaters in my butt? I

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think, um, But also I'm
just kind of I'm just a silly person.

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So to me, it's like it
doesn't have to be hot for me,

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Like I think of it more as
I'm doing like circus acts, And

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to me, it's like hilarious and
like it doesn't bother me and I'm not

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ashamed about it and I'm happy to
be getting paid for that and creating entertainment

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for people. I also like,
don't really take it too seriously. Sure,

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I hope that makes sense. It
does the piss water boarding. Did

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you give up the location of isis
when you did that or no? Or

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did you stay strong? No?
I stayed strong. I think it helps

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that I didn't know where it was
in the first place. Twelve guys in

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the back of a ninety four Toyota
tuck somewhere or going God damn. I

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hope she does not crack on us. Okay, Um, yeah, she

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was a Manchurian candidate. She doesn't
think she knows where it is, but

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it's in there somewhere, just a
little more piss than she would have broken.

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Um uh so, so the piggyback
on top of that, would you

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have looking back, I understand you
do enjoy these scenes. Would you have

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worked your way into it a little
easier? Or no? Do you have

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regret? Not a negative like terrible
regret, Like obviously you don't regret shooting

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those scenes, but do you wish
for your own career sake that you had

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taken it a little slower from the
beginning or no? I don't think so.

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Um, I don't think I would
have changed anything. Also, I

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was in a really unique and at
times difficult position because I was independent,

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self booking, and I had all
these shitty tattoos, and I had a

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mullet, and I'm like icy white, and I don't have blonde hair,

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so I just like, don't look
like a lot of the girls. Or

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at the time there's more girls who
look like me now, But at the

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time, so many companies are like, oh, I'd love to shoot you,

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but your tattoos are shitty, or
maybe you should get a tan,

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or like dye your hair. So
I thought, will like if these companies

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won't hire me at least like the
ones who do crazy shit well, and

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I've just kind of forced my way
in that way. I think if I

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was getting in now, maybe I
would have done the same stuff, but

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just for my own content. But
content wasn't as king as it was or

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as it is now. As I
don't know how to say that. The

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only fans wasn't a thing like I
didn't have one until twenty seventeen. I

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started shooting in twenty fifteen, so
we had like webcam and we had many

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of its and shit like that,
but it was a completely different ballgame,

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and I was really like heavily relying
on shoots to make a living. Sure,

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sure, So would that be your
recommendation for girls nowadays? Everything every

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girl we've talked to, it seems
like like to me, again from an

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ignorant outside perspective, I go,
shit, I want to shoot as many

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scenes as possible. I want to
get my name out there as much as

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possible. Not me obviously, like
if I looked attractive like a woman,

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but I everything we've talked to was
a lot of these girls go only fans

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is king, And I do these
sites for exposure. I do these sites

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for names where I might make X
amount of dollars for the shooting at browsers

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or somewhere else. The translation is
ten x that over here on only Fans.

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Is that your recommendation to, like, anyone looking to try and get

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into the industry? Maybe? And
I would also say only fans too.

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Seems like you have a lot more
control over your own what you want to

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do, what type of thing you
want to produce. You're not stuck in

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a position where you're shooting something you
may not necessarily love right off the bat.

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Would that be your recommendation to really
kind of learn how to create your

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own thing and then branch out from
there or is it the way you did

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it, kind of dive into mainstream
sites and then maybe establish something down the

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line. I think yeah the former. As you were saying, it's really

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smart to create your own content.
You can make money off of it forever.

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And we don't have royalties or residuals
in this industry, so the closest

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thing we have is the content we
make. Like I'm still making money on

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shoots I did like seven years ago
or eight years ago, and I still

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like being on set from time to
time shooting with my friends and companies I

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really like working for and it's fun
to get my name out there. It's

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great exposure. Like a recently shot
for Reflective Desire, who I was like

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a huge fan of before, and
I'm a huge ly Tex enthusiast and I've

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been trying to put myself more into
that community. So that was great at

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putting me in front of the eyes
of a late Tex fans who may not

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be aware of me. But it's
all about balance. You know, some

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people I know really love being on
set all the time, and they don't

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really like running their only fans and
they do it for the income, but

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they really love like the experience of
being on set and being around people or

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meeting new people, Whereas like I'm
a lot more. I'm really shy and

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with drawn. I'm like a homebody. So my ideal setup is what I

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did the other day. I had
two of my friends come over. We

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like fisted each other's butts, and
then another friend of mine filmed it and

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I didn't have to go anywhere.
Piggy backing onto that real quick. You

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mentioned earlier you watched porn when you
were younger, and so many girls we

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talked to have said no, not
really, I didn't really, did you

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have favorite performers or were you just
a search terms type of girl. I

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had favorite performers, for sure.
My favorite was and still is Racco Saffretti.

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So when I met and worked with
him, I cried in the middle

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of the scene because it was such
a surreal experience and he's such a cool

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dude. Like, for as brutal
as he is in the scenes, he's

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like a perfect gentleman. And it's
it's something like I wasn't expecting, but

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a really cool and welcome surprise,
for sure. And I always loved like

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Sasha Gray and at Schwartz. I
loved Jada fire like girls like that who

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are just nasty and seemed like they
were having a lot of fun. Sure,

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sure, Shane, did you have
any question? I could just go

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on forever, Shane, so you
can continue. Yeah, I'm enjoying piggybacking

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off of you. Okay, all
right, here's a ridiculous question. But

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after the release of it last year, did you get just like your email

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slammed with people going, hey,
will you do a Wednesday Adam shoot?

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Will you do another Wednesday Adam shoot? After that Netflix series? Was there?

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I know you've done things in the
past obviously, but I'm wondering if

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there was any kind of a Lisa
and Sarah Palin type renaissance when that show

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came out, or maybe it was
too much of like a kid show for

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you know, is there something planned? Are you guys going to do your

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own series or it's like, you
know, you shoot that and you know

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it's like the same thing except more
fucking obviously. To be honest, I

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haven't seen the show. I've heard
it's cool. I'm it takes me so

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long to get through shows like I'm
I'm still watching Game of Thrones I haven't

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finished yet, so I'm really bad
at watching TV. I got a lot

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of inquiries on my only fans,
mostly from people who are just wondering if

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I was a fan of the show. But I don't really get too many

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cosplay requests, I think because that's
not something I do a lot. I

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just dress up as myself and my
fans are really interesting. Sometimes they seem

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more interested in talking with me about
like swords and things like that than like

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actually like dirty talking, which is
super cool. Like I'm happy for everything,

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but yeah, I think for the
gothic girls who do a lot of

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like cosplay and theme shoots. They
probably got that question a lot, but

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I think the way my fan base
is, it just didn't occur to a

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lot of them. Gotcha got a
lot more sword questions, I guess yeah,

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when Wednesday came out? What kind
of sword would Wednesday use? What

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kind of dagger? Okay? Fair
enough? Fair enough? Who is your

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second best friend in the industry?
Because I think I know your best friend.

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I think I frightened her. At
Exotica in New Jersey this year,

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I walked up with a business card, which is a ridiculous concept in and

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of itself. It's a little business
card. It's got a cure all the

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girls we've interviewed, and I went, Hi, how you doing, Lydia,

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Um, it's nice meeting you.
I was just wondering if you would

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be interested in doing an interview sometime. And if I'm being honest with you,

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as much as I like Lydia's work, Lydia Black, we're talking about

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here, my goal was like,
fuck, if I can really impress this

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check, maybe I can get to
Charlotte and see if I could try and

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do it. So we just skipped
that, but I would still love to

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interview her. Someday. Is she
your best friend in the industry? Oh,

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you're going to break some part my
best friend in the industry. I

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think my second closest friend, at
least the person I spent the most time

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with would probably be John Paul the
Pope, because we're on set together all

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the time. So he's like,
I forgot to mention this in the previous

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question because I gave such a long
winded response and I got sidetracked when you

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were asking about directing. But he
just shows me. He's shown me how

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he does it, and he handles
the bondage because I don't trust myself to

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tie anybody up, okay, so
when I need that for a scene,

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he's in charge of that. But
yeah, I see him like all the

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time, and we have the same
personal trainer, so I see him or

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I saw his wife today at the
gym actually like for right before this,

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but he's amazing, love GP.
I need to make a point. So

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I'm at work, and this is
how ridiculous it is. I worked for

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a pharmaceutical company and I'm talking to
this girl from my job. This is

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probably eight years ago, and for
some reason I'm pulling up maybe not eight

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years ago, maybe five years ago. I'm pulling up your Instagram and I'm

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going, oh my god, look
how gorgeous this girl is. Look how

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hot this girl is. Blah blah
blah. She's my favorite performer. Da

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da da da dah. And God
bless you Megan for putting up with me

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at work. Still a very close
friend of mine. But it's so funny

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because she pointed out why I was
such a fan of yours. So I

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would just like to I'm gonna change
my background. Can you see my background?

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Okay, I don't need anyone else
seeing it, and we're just recording

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you, So I'm gonna change my
background. So I'm gonna make a case

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to you and we'll see once it
happens. Here's a picture of your tattoo.

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I don't know if it's on the
right or left for you. Here's

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a picture of my wife's tattoo.
Okay, Oh that's so sweet. Okay.

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Here's a picture of Jonesy I believe, yes, and a picture.

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Yeah, her other cat's name is
Ripley. I'm not a creep. I

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just know that. Yeah. This
is a picture of Jonesy. And this

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is a picture of She's got like
a million names, but that's our cat

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over there. Okay, So I'm
going to show you the picture of my

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wife next. This is what Megan
at work pointed out to me. She

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goes, oh, you like this
guy, Yeah, yeah, you like

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this girl because of her fucking cat. That's why that's I definitely find her

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so attractive because of this. So
I point this out. I go,

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this is my wife. Oh she's
beautiful, and this is Charlotte. And

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this is my wife and this is
Charlotte and it's a resemblance. Megan points

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out to me. She goes,
I mean she looks like Jen like,

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that's why you like her. And
I was like, oh yeah, yeah.

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So it's like you get to see
somebody fucking your girl because you've never

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done it. So you're like,
now you get to experience that, like

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by ariously through Charlotte, you know, because your girl, like whenever she

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fucks, you're not around. You
don't even know what that's like. So

408
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yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Oh oh man, yeah, that's why

409
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.039
we can do a show because you
get me, you understand what it was.

410
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.720
So Charlotte, I would like to
put it out there if anything tragic

411
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.960
were to ever happen to my wife. I will accept you as my new

412
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:28.680
love because you have fit all the
prerequisites that have been laying out. Thank

413
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:32.119
thank you. I appreciate that I
ran that by my wife last night.

414
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:35.319
I was a little nervous about that
bit. I was like, so,

415
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:37.319
I'm going to point out that if
you ever die in some sort of plane

416
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:39.920
accident. And Jen looks at me, she goes, you gotta make it

417
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:43.759
so specific, and I was like, yeah, okay, maybe I won't,

418
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.400
but sweet was your coffee this morning? Me? Yeah? Oh dude,

419
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.759
I'm manic right now. I was
up till three reading about Jean pash

420
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.079
start Well, just wondering like if
she started dosing it with Annie Freeze.

421
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:00.839
Yeah, oh Jen, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I'm starting

422
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:05.160
to get a little sleepy as hyper
as I am. So I wanted to,

423
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:07.639
well, Shane, let's let's go
with your question, because this girl's

424
00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:10.320
a fan, and Shane has a
question he likes to ask all of our

425
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.599
performers. The answer is obviously yes, But I think, Shane, if

426
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:17.119
you could give her, like a
how much is she into this? That

427
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:22.039
would be appreciated. Oh sure,
yeah, I guess like on a scale

428
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:28.079
of one to ten. Where would
you put piss or where would you rank

429
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:32.920
it? I think ten? Like
literally, yeah, a couple days ago,

430
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:42.960
I was spitting Vanessa Vega's piss into
Lydia black skeeping butthole. That's my

431
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.440
favorite ones. I am. Yeah, we're having a great time. I

432
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.559
I like, yeah, when they
fill the butthole up with the pea and

433
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.800
then they roll over and all the
piss falls out onto someone's face. Oh.

434
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:58.599
We tried to do that, but
I think I think Lydia's butt is

435
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:02.199
just too greedy. So it was
like absorbing the p Wow. Yeah,

436
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:07.239
maybe you had some nutrients left over
and she was, you know, absorbing

437
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:14.880
them um with her uh digestive system, you know, because that's what you're

438
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.159
a lower intestine. Does it makes
sense? Makes sense? Yeah? Yeah,

439
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.559
shame was a biology major. I
wasn't, but only this type of

440
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.760
biology, which is got kicked the
whole biology. Yeah yeah, um,

441
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.960
okay, well, I mean I
want to delve into it real quick.

442
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:36.320
But and this is gonna be a
drastic shift. That's why I saved this

443
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.360
towards the end because some people might
be like, oh, but she's not

444
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:44.079
talking about piss and buttholes and stuff. Anymore? Uh Sart? Why is

445
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:50.920
Sart your favorite philosopher of all time? He's actually not my favorite philosophy?

446
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.239
Or are you gonna be? Are
you announcing a name change to Charlotte Nietsche

447
00:35:55.079 --> 00:36:00.559
Charlotte came that would be dope too, but I hadn't. I still have

448
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:09.559
got nausea tattooed on my um torso
in French or English in English. I

449
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:15.599
just thought it was fitting, and
my first name is really Charlotte, so

450
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:19.639
I thought I should pick a French
last name to go with it. Um.

451
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:23.760
But um, I'm I'm got to
say, I'm really into like Russian

452
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:29.599
literature, like it's just so much
more bleak. Um. I do love

453
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.079
I do love the French for sure. I love Um, I love Camu

454
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:38.039
and Provost and all those dudes.
Um, but like there's something like really

455
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:45.119
appealing about like Churchenev and Dostoevski for
sure. Yeah, I'm I see going

456
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:47.480
with a French last name with Charlotte. But I wonder why not a farm

457
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:55.360
animal name web Web would have been
cool. Charlotte Webb. I'm sure it's

458
00:36:55.400 --> 00:37:00.960
taken already. I was checking,
I acte. I went through you know,

459
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:06.840
possible surnames, and I was checking, Um, I didn't want anything

460
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.480
that had been taken, even like
somebody with a different first name but the

461
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:14.480
same last name. I wanted something
completely unique. Well, yeah, start

462
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:17.239
is very unique. It's no one
else I could ever think of would have

463
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:23.559
that in porn. So it's definitely
a way to stand out. So I

464
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:28.480
wonder, I wonder if if that's
gonna be a new trend with like stage

465
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:31.960
names in the future, where each
one is going to pick a philosopher,

466
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:37.480
like we're gonna see Dostayevsky, Nietzsche, Kyrka, guard like Kant, and

467
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.280
like it's gonna be you know that, you're gonna start like this new thing.

468
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:47.639
No, it's gonna be Kardashian,
Bieber, fucking Reynolds, you know

469
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:52.119
all of that stuff. Lizzen,
I'm gonna make the porn smart. We

470
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:57.119
would all enjoy that. Yes,
yes, and and and all of these

471
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.679
girls are very smart in their own
way. But I can just see a

472
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.360
man, You're going like, dude, they're not gonna understand Nietsche, don't

473
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.760
go with that, go with Bieber, and the girls is gonna be like,

474
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:08.199
yeah, all right, whatever,
I don't care. Yeah, that

475
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:13.679
goes better with butthole. So I
spent I was up till about three four

476
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.679
in the morning last night watching videos
and trying not to lose track with my

477
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:22.559
add mind ten seconds into learning about
start, So I'm just gonna then get

478
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:27.159
this out there, even though it's
not your favorite philosopher of all time.

479
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:32.960
The one thing I really found interesting
was about the meaninglessness of the universe,

480
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:38.000
right, and for people that don't
know, the point of it was so

481
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:44.760
much that the universe is out of
order. So spending your time and you

482
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.880
guys can both correct me if I'm
wrong. You guys took philosophy classes and

483
00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:53.960
I took a German expressionism film.
So that's the difference between us. The

484
00:38:54.159 --> 00:39:00.639
universe is meaningless because it is inherently
out of order, and trying to find

485
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:06.400
order within a meaningless universe is senseless. Is that correct? Is that the

486
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:12.960
idea behind that sounds like a stupid
task to me? Yeah? Yeah,

487
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:16.760
pretty much. Okay, So my
question is what if the purpose of it

488
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:23.800
is the search itself? There are
so few people who have time to contemplate

489
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.119
regrets in their lives and such as
they die. Now, everyone that's died

490
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:35.599
in my life has been pretty sudden
and instant, which is terrible. But

491
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:39.519
also someone argue better than watching someone
die in a hospital bed. But I

492
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.920
also assume at the end of a
person in a hospital bed's life, they're

493
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:45.840
sitting there and maybe they have dementia, they're losing it, or they're in

494
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.360
so much pain that they don't have
to sit back and go like, boy,

495
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.679
I regret searching for the meaning of
the universe. What if it's the

496
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:59.840
hope or the thrill of finding order
that is the purpose behind searching for order.

497
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.480
It's kind of cam movie. A
lot of people agree with that.

498
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.400
Yeah, that's kind of cam mooe. Man, that's like the whole thing

499
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.199
with Ciss pushing the stone up the
hill and then down the hill and then

500
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:15.719
he's laughing. It's like you,
it doesn't have to beat the search,

501
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:20.239
as you put it, but you
make your own meaning. You know,

502
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:24.079
like there's nothing woven into the fabric
of the cosmos that is meaning. But

503
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.800
if you're not gonna find meaning in
life, the only other option is to

504
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:31.920
just kill yourself, because like,
what the fuck is the point of being

505
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:38.360
a lot? Okay, well,
then I wish I didn't just watch an

506
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:43.480
hour and twenty minutes of those videos
last night because it just had YouTube tell

507
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:45.920
me about it. Yeah, yeah, we would have just told you.

508
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:50.440
You should have just asked us.
See, these are my favorite interviews.

509
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:53.719
Sometimes we'll get from the various pr
people we work with. We get asked

510
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:57.679
to do an interview for this,
and it's a lot of fun talking to

511
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.639
girls and it's a lot of fun
the whole time going like, so do

512
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:02.599
you like come? Is it cool? You know, going into that,

513
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.719
But I gross. My favorite thing
about this is just kind of talking to

514
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:12.199
a performer on a human level,
because that's always been my idea behind this.

515
00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.920
If I were talking to the top
NASCAR guy in the world, whoever

516
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:21.000
the fuck that is, I would
sit around and I would do my research

517
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:23.800
to figure out what makes this the
top person in the world, what drives

518
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:28.360
them, what gives them the abilities
to make this the top person. If

519
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.320
I was talking to the top animator, I would do that as well.

520
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:36.760
And what I appreciate this is so
many people who are at the top of

521
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:40.519
their craft this case it's born give
us their time and their ability to sit

522
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:44.679
here and talk to us as human
beings. And I think that actually for

523
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.199
the people that watch this and listen
to this. I think it's beneficial because

524
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:52.639
I think it helps create And you
tell me if this is bad or wrong,

525
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:57.000
Charlotte, I hope what this series
does is it creates somewhat of a

526
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:01.599
separation where people understand, like there's
a performer and there is a person behind

527
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:05.760
this. And so many times I
see on social media where it gets a

528
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:09.440
little blended and I get a little
nervous for women. Just you know,

529
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:15.320
it's so easy to find information nowadays, you know, do you have this

530
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:20.480
is going to be one of my
last questions here. Do you have people

531
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.639
that you've had to like almost let
them know you're going a little too far?

532
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:29.079
Obviously don't name them or their user
names, but like, do you

533
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:30.519
get people in your comments where you're
like, ah shit, I think this

534
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:36.519
guy's literally in love with me and
thinks the performer is me? Or has

535
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:40.079
everyone been pretty cool with you?
I mean most people are cool. There

536
00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:44.960
are if you're on the internet in
any capacity, there are going to be

537
00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:50.199
people form per social relationships with you. And I've dealt with that quite a

538
00:42:50.239 --> 00:42:57.039
bit, and that's one reason I'm
way less open online than I used to

539
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:01.159
be. Like, I don't talk
about my personal relationships. I don't really

540
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:07.280
talk about where I live. I
don't like talk about or post about like

541
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:13.360
the hobbies that I have. I
don't post like my pets so much,

542
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.960
Like I've got a lot more animals
than just the two cats. But those

543
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:27.119
guys are pretty safe. But yeah, I think you're already so naked,

544
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:31.119
like on a spiritual level when you're
putting yourself out there online, not just

545
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:37.679
doing porn, but but anything.
So it's important for me to leave some

546
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:45.519
things for myself and have things I
enjoy that are not for anybody else to

547
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:52.719
see, or something that I enjoy, but then I turn it into something

548
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.719
I make money from, so it
becomes like more of a job than a

549
00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:02.480
hobby. So it's really important to
find a balance. And in this age

550
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:12.639
of social media, being a performer, you've never been so accessible to anybody

551
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.800
like it used to be people couldn't
meet a performer unless they came to Avian

552
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:21.519
or something, or they might be
able to send them a fan mail,

553
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.760
I guess, but now it's like
anybody at any time can send you a

554
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:30.840
message or tweet at you. So
it's important to withdraw and have some separation

555
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:36.480
at least from my mental sanity.
So, folks, if you're out there

556
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:40.360
and you're listening to this and you
enjoy Charlotte's content, don't fucking show up

557
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:44.559
at her house. That's creepy and
weird. Okay, don't at her.

558
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.079
Don't you can in a few times, Yeah, it's not good. By

559
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.239
the way, you don't mention your
other pets. I if you want to

560
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.320
cut out the names of your cats, I only found them on Oh No

561
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:58.440
Worries. No, but the boys
I'm always happy to talk about. But

562
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:01.800
I have like a lot of Oh
yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

563
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:06.440
Anyone who would come in to steal
them, You're walking into like disaster.

564
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:09.000
I'm terrified of everything else you have
in your house aside from you and

565
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:15.360
the cats. But so leave her
alone. If you see her and just

566
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:19.039
enjoy her content, please please,
Shane said, don't at her. Do

567
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:21.840
at her and let her know,
Hey, I really enjoy your content.

568
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.440
I just purchased this. Don't at
her and go please be my wife.

569
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.719
That's my job. I will do
that anyway. Ladies and gentlemen, we

570
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:35.280
were speaking to Charlotte start today.
You can find her on Twitter, Instagram,

571
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:38.719
and only fans at Goth Charlotte.
The store where you can purchase merch

572
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:45.280
and sweatshirts and T shirts and everything
else is going to be goth Charlotte dot

573
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:50.519
store and website down the line,
right Yes, I'm working on it.

574
00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:52.960
It'll be goth Charlotte dot com.
Right now, it's just a link tree

575
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:59.440
that redirects to other sidesime on.
But eventually, if you keep checking it,

576
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.760
maybe in a few months it'll have
stuff on there. So load up

577
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:09.039
your PayPal or whoever is accepting sex
worker dollars nowadays, whoever's not being judged

578
00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:14.480
by big banks somewhere, and head
over to goth Charlotte dot com see her

579
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.239
link tree and go like, hmm, what can I purchase today? Do

580
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:20.920
you have a many VIDs account?
Yes? There you go go buy stuff

581
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:22.719
there, sign up for her only
fans here, do this and that,

582
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.199
buy a T shirt, buy a
sweatshirt, give it to your wife.

583
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:28.039
She'll be like, who the fuck
is this? And then you go,

584
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.159
this is this chick I heard on
Luine. She's great anyway, Ladies and

585
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.320
gentlemen, that was Charlotte Sarty.
Thank you very much for your time today,

586
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:36.920
Charlotte, Thank you so much for
having me, I appreciate it.

587
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:44.400
Thanks for listening to your worst friend
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