1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:21,199 You're listening to your worst friend going Deeper. If you're listening to your worst 2 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,879 friend going Deeper with Shane and Matt. This is season four. I normally 3 00:00:26,879 --> 00:00:29,480 do a little intro, like real short around this, but I have to 4 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:33,000 say we did our first. Let me do a quick thirty second backstory. 5 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,799 Did our first intro our interview in this space with Dan and Suzanne Ferrari of 6 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,000 slought inspection dot com. I met them on Reddit. They were interested in 7 00:00:43,039 --> 00:00:46,039 talking about their lifestyle and stuff like that, and I thought it would be 8 00:00:46,039 --> 00:00:50,840 fun. That video and that podcast, you know, got six times the 9 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,000 amount of downloads as our normal show does, if not more than that, 10 00:00:54,359 --> 00:00:56,759 So I went, hey, maybe there's a lane here talking to people in 11 00:00:56,799 --> 00:01:00,320 the adult industry. Second interview we ever did was with Gauge. Gauge was 12 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,719 a classic porn star. Shane and I are in our mid thirties here, 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:10,680 so you know, she was right in our prime. And after I did 14 00:01:10,719 --> 00:01:14,560 that, I said, there's a certain mount Rushmore I would love to hit. 15 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:19,200 Okay, three of them are older performers no longer in the industry some 16 00:01:19,239 --> 00:01:25,400 of them, and one is a current modern day performer. And those performers 17 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,079 were Gia Paloma, Gianna Michaels who is still performing, Tammy Andrews, who 18 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,000 left the industry a while ago, and our guest today. So if I 19 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:40,359 sound a little shaky voice or nervous or you know, freaked out, which 20 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,560 you haven't heard me do in almost two hundred episodes of doing this show, 21 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:51,239 including one where we buried my father, essentially, that's why our guest today 22 00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:55,920 is the lovely Now, this is what I should have confirmed beforehand. This 23 00:01:55,959 --> 00:01:57,760 is one of those things I should have confirmed. Do you go with the 24 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,400 and this is not me trying to brag like I did some sort of research 25 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:07,039 beforehand. Do you go with the single syllable last name, the multiple syllable 26 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:14,479 last name, or the French version of the last name. So I'm just 27 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,199 like a big troll and in each interview like I'll change the way I pronounce 28 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,840 it because I'm not French, I'm not good at saying French things. And 29 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:30,080 also like it's not really something that I take super seriously. Sure most people 30 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,800 call me goth Charlotte nowadays. Anyway, if I would have known, like 31 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,439 you could have had like a stage name as silly as that, I would 32 00:02:36,479 --> 00:02:39,840 have picked it. But yeah, you could call me whatever you want, 33 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:46,199 and yeah, I really don't mind. Ladies and gentlemen, today, our 34 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:53,599 guest, Miss Goth Charlotte, Charlotte Start or Charlotte Sarteur. You can find 35 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:55,159 her on Twitter, Instagram and only fans. And let me tell you, 36 00:02:55,199 --> 00:03:00,199 she must be a social media genius because she has somehow squore squirt it well, 37 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:05,840 I mean that is Freudian right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 38 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,199 yeah, yeah, she has like squirmed around all of the big tech sensors 39 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:14,759 out there who are trying to boot sex workers and porn stars and everything else. 40 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,840 Because her name is consistent among all of Twitter, Instagram and only fans. 41 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,159 Goth Charlotte. And if you want to pick up one of her t 42 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:24,400 shirts, do you have other merch on there as well? Or no? 43 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:29,919 Um, I want to make ashtrays soon. That's pretty cool and I've got 44 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:35,319 hoodies right now? Okay, cool Goth Charlotte dot store. You're gonna head 45 00:03:35,319 --> 00:03:38,840 over there, Ladies and gentlemen, our guest today, Charlotte Start. Hi, 46 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:44,520 Guys, how you doing this is really amazing because, like I said, 47 00:03:45,599 --> 00:03:51,240 you are the current modern day performer where I go. This girl just 48 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:57,080 nails everything about my I don't want to sound like a creep. I'm going 49 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,319 to sound like a creep later on. But this girl just nails everything about 50 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,960 my preferences. I go love a girl who can't catch a tan if she 51 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:11,159 tries. I love the dark hair, I love the style. Shane, 52 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:15,160 what is my bangs great? Shane? What's my fetish with clothing? Uh, 53 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:18,519 it's not latex, it's leather. No, it's latex, it's not 54 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:24,839 leather. So you know, you just you, you nail all this stuff. 55 00:04:24,879 --> 00:04:27,199 And then if you dig deeper and you go to any of your social 56 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:30,720 media, you just seemed cool too. I know, I sound real boy 57 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,920 in my email to where I let her know, I'm like, look, 58 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:36,360 I'm not just some simp that's just trying. And then the first ten minutes 59 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:41,519 for me just going, do you know how fucking great you are? Chris 60 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,000 Farley and those old SNL clips, Um, do you like doing stuff? 61 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,879 But he's a simp band and uncle, let's jump into this. Can I 62 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,560 ask you how you decide it to get into the industry and what that first 63 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,240 step was like for you? Well, I I was really liked Lauren, 64 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:06,120 and I was really interested in exploring my sexuality and having a flexible job. 65 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:15,439 I started webcamming first of all on my freecams, and then I was just 66 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:20,800 kind of like emailing different sites. And I lived in the Bay Area at 67 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:26,240 the time, so naturally I was a huge kink dot com fan, and 68 00:05:27,399 --> 00:05:30,399 I really liked BDSM in my personal life, but hadn't explored it much. 69 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:41,360 I randomly got a Twitter DM from some dude who said, oh, hey, 70 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:44,920 do you want to get into porn, Like, I know this agency 71 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:46,519 you could get with. And it ended up being like a really shitty, 72 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:53,120 like shady agency in Florida. I think like everybody involved with it has disappeared, 73 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:59,040 so if I don't recommend getting into porn that way. But they introduced 74 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,920 me to the site Asylum with two s's, and I did my first scene 75 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:12,199 for them, and then I dropped the agent and I asked the producer of 76 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:15,079 the site, Hey, do you know any other sites that could work with 77 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:20,199 me? So he got me an interview with kink dot Com and I may 78 00:06:20,199 --> 00:06:26,199 have been like one of the only people who's had to interview for a job 79 00:06:26,199 --> 00:06:31,600 in porn. But they called me into the armory and I talked with Simone 80 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:38,079 Seney, who was the head of the town Department at the time, I 81 00:06:38,079 --> 00:06:42,800 believe that was the job position, and we just talked about things I was 82 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,720 interested in, things I'd like to try, and in short order, I 83 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:51,360 was shooting a lot of scenes for kink dot Com and then I'd meet performers 84 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:58,000 on set who would introduce me to other like producers they liked to work for. 85 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:02,959 So it's just kind of been a a slow, like snowball of meeting 86 00:07:02,959 --> 00:07:08,759 people in networking. And I'm sure if I had like a good agent and 87 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,920 stuck with it, I'd be like a lot more successful. But that's just 88 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,160 my story and how it happened. You know What's so interesting. Every time 89 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:20,839 we talked to a grow it seems like from the outside kind of ignorant perspective, 90 00:07:20,879 --> 00:07:24,439 it feels like, oh, you just got to be good at fucking 91 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:28,000 and be pretty. And yet every time we talk to somebody, it sounds 92 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,600 like you need to know how to dominate social media and you need to know 93 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:35,839 how to network with people and be professional on set and meet new people and 94 00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:41,120 collaborate and this and that. So it's just so many people probably have the 95 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:46,319 wrong impression of the industry, which is so interesting to me because I don't 96 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:51,519 know. I you know, it's it gets such a bad rap I guess, 97 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:57,120 you know, because of dumb religious people or prude people or whatever it 98 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,720 is, but they don't see all of the additional work that goes into it. 99 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,360 It feels like, so, yeah, there was no question there. 100 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,160 That was just interesting to me. So if you've been agent free this whole 101 00:08:07,199 --> 00:08:13,079 time, your entire your entire career, so to speak, you've been just 102 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:20,120 self managing, self promoting everything. Yes, with the exception of when I've 103 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:26,160 worked in Europe, about half the time I was in Prague, I was 104 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:31,559 getting shoots. That Proxy Page, who was my agent out there, she 105 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:37,399 had a working relationship. She still has a working relationship with a lot of 106 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:43,679 companies out there, so she was really helpful for that. But in America 107 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,639 and completely self represented, self booking. And I haven't been out to Europe 108 00:08:48,639 --> 00:08:52,240 in a few years anyway, so I don't really work out there anymore. 109 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:58,200 Proxy Page one of my favorite performers of all time. Let me ask you, 110 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:01,879 now, do you do you have anything and you don't have to go 111 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:07,080 into detailed negative about shooting out there because our friend Avery Jane, beautiful African 112 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:13,039 American former loves going to Prague and specifically Prague. Did you you know, 113 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:15,159 again, you don't have to go into detail. Did you have a bad 114 00:09:15,159 --> 00:09:18,120 experience or have you just not been out there because of COVID or have you 115 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:22,960 just decided to stay stateside more? Oh? No, I always loved working 116 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:28,240 in Prague, and it's so fun to be able to combine like a vacation 117 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:33,559 and a work trip. And I've seen like so many beautiful things there. 118 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,559 I met so many amazing people. I love the type of content out there. 119 00:09:37,759 --> 00:09:41,480 I've always been a big fan of European porns, so you have to 120 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:48,279 go there to get the real deal. It's just tough, like being on 121 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,440 a plane for like twelve hours, Like my back is always killing me. 122 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:58,039 And then I've mostly been focusing on directing lately and shooting my own content, 123 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:05,159 and I'm hardly on set like as a performer as much as I used to 124 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,799 be. I'm I have a couple scenes next week, but I'll maybe do 125 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:11,399 like two or three a month now, where I used to be doing like 126 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:18,159 two or three a week. So I've just adapted and I'm changing sure, 127 00:10:18,639 --> 00:10:24,159 and I'm also lazy. I want Shane to take a guess at this because 128 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:26,559 I read this somewhere and I want to see if Shane can get it. 129 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:33,000 You'll have three guesses, Shane, Charlotte here went to college for something, 130 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:37,080 and I want to know if you want to try and take a guess and 131 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,679 figure out what that job is. And I'm going to segue that into a 132 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:45,279 question about directing, if that's okay, Shane, what job profession career? 133 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:54,039 Did Charlotte originally go to college for veterinarian? No dentist, no philosophy, 134 00:10:54,519 --> 00:10:56,720 No, Charlotte, what was that job that you went to school for. 135 00:10:58,279 --> 00:11:07,120 I major to accounting. I wanted to focus in taxation, but I eventually 136 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,399 decided that I like doing porn better than doing taxes. So originally I was 137 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,159 looking, you know, through past interviews you had done and stuff like that, 138 00:11:16,279 --> 00:11:20,519 seeing if you had any kind of a media background. Now it seems 139 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:22,799 like you were going to school for something that could have been a real job, 140 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:24,919 unlike me going to school for communications, where I learned how to use 141 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,639 you know, a camera and direct TV and do radio, which, hey, 142 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:33,720 you know, maybe it'll turn into something someday. But did you just 143 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:41,279 have a strictly on set desire to learn the behind the camera aspect. Did 144 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,399 you have anyone who kind of mentored you towards that? And is that a 145 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:52,720 reasonable jump that I'm not asking you to understand the knowledge or the intellect of 146 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,440 other performers. But do you think if a girl performs for long enough in 147 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,799 this industry she can pick up enough to become a director behind the scenes. 148 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,720 I think it really depends on what people are interested in. A lot of 149 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,039 people just want to show up to work, get paid, and go home, 150 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,679 and they just want to be told what to do and not have to 151 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,320 think about that. And there's something really nice and attractive about that that I 152 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:24,320 also enjoy from time to time. I since most of us are shooting our 153 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,840 own content, I would say, like the majority of us are shooting our 154 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:31,759 own content, we in a sense have to become our own directors and producers, 155 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:39,519 and so that part transfers, you know, really naturally to directing. 156 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,879 The way I got the job at Kink dot Com is this was during a 157 00:12:46,919 --> 00:12:50,840 time when nobody was directing at Kink except John Paul the Pope. It was 158 00:12:50,879 --> 00:12:56,080 like in the COVID era, and it had been like a long time discussion 159 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:05,320 because at the time nobody else was directing everything, but so and that's like 160 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:13,639 my favorite shit, like no pun intended. But I thought or JP thought 161 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,480 I would be a good fit for it, so he got me a meeting 162 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:22,960 with the CEO at the time, Alison. It's since changed a couple of 163 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,360 times since then who the CEO is. But I had some interviews again, 164 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:35,879 like more porn interviews, and yeah, that's been almost two years now, 165 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:39,960 and I really really enjoy it. I love it so much. And I 166 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:46,159 think a lot of women, like when they've been in porn for a while, 167 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:52,960 it seems really natural to transition into directing, and I think, like 168 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,080 I'm seeing like Casey Calvert is absolutely amazing. Kensey Taylor's also directing my dear 169 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:03,480 friend Lydia Black. I'm working for her next week. She's also directing for 170 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:11,039 kink Now. And it's been really cool to see all these perverted women behind 171 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,279 the lens. Not like I'm actually like filming, like we have a great 172 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,879 videographer who's much better than me, like shaking hands, recording stuff. But 173 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:26,679 it's my ideas at least, is there is there a shift in the style 174 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:33,120 Lettle from going from a male director to a female director or all of you 175 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:37,000 perverts able to take on that thing and kind of just run with it and 176 00:14:37,039 --> 00:14:39,879 go, this is the I'll keep the same style because I've seen sights in 177 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:43,519 the past that I've been a fan of and not kink. Not that I'm 178 00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:46,399 not a fan of kink, it's just I'm not talking about that one in 179 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,399 this instance where all of a sudden, maybe they get bought out, maybe 180 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:56,200 they change something, maybe they upgrade their cameras, maybe they upgrade their lighting, 181 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,720 and it kind of loses it's what may what it was. So are 182 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:07,639 you conscious of understanding the style as it was before and then adding your own 183 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:11,639 flare to it, or are you coming in almost clean slate and going, 184 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,399 this is what Charlotte's gonna do. Charlotte wants to do it this way. 185 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:22,879 So that's a really good question. And my approach has changed quite a bit. 186 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:30,240 When I first started, I thought I would do something completely different and 187 00:15:30,279 --> 00:15:33,960 I would shoot things that I wanted to see that I felt like there wasn't 188 00:15:35,159 --> 00:15:41,440 as much of a market for or a niche for. But the members, 189 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,279 you know, if they're subscribed to a site for a long time, they 190 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,000 really like the way things used to be. And I studied a lot of 191 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,600 the older scenes, like from different directors because it's changed hands like so many 192 00:15:54,600 --> 00:16:04,360 times throughout the years, like like Marty Ariolex and I don't know if I 193 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:07,159 can say who the last director was. I don't know if it's a public 194 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,960 knowledge or if they're using a stage name. But this person is also super 195 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:22,840 amazing. And now I'm planning some shoots that are callbacks to the very very 196 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:29,320 early Everything, but stuff that the members like. And I've also tried some 197 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,000 new things, like I shot Natalie Mars in a scene with me, and 198 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:37,799 she's the first transperformer to be on Everything. But originally the site used to 199 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:45,480 be boy Girl or Boy Girl Girl anal. But the pastor of early years 200 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:52,679 it's been just sis women, duos and trios. So now I'm trying to 201 00:16:52,159 --> 00:16:57,240 I'm hoping to shoot more trans women occasionally, and I'm hoping to sprinkle some 202 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:03,120 guys in there as long as they don't get the way, but still keeping 203 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:11,480 the the hardcore lesbian interactions being the main focus. If that make sense, 204 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:14,400 well yeah, yeah, totally makes sense to me. Um So, like 205 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,519 you said, you started with Asylum, which I have seen. Hey, 206 00:17:18,799 --> 00:17:25,079 not my preference only because it's it's it's intense, it's hardcore. Uh. 207 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,640 But I grew up in the state and we went to a girl who in 208 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:33,119 high school shot for facial abuse dot com. Not gonna ask for an opinion 209 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,039 if you don't want to give it on that one. But I've been exposed 210 00:17:36,039 --> 00:17:38,319 and seen some pretty hardcore stuff, you know, since we were at my 211 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,640 high school graduation party, showing everybody at my party that girls video. Um, 212 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,880 not in a shitty way. We weren't bullying or she enjoyed it maybe? 213 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:52,000 Uh, yeah, we had we respected it. Um. But has 214 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:56,720 that always been your personality or was that a jump where you just have you 215 00:17:56,799 --> 00:18:00,079 been more of like an extreme type person in your life in that sense where 216 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,799 you know that is not shocking in your own personality or was this a total 217 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:11,039 leaping from your comfort zone type thing shooting some of those more extreme bondage type 218 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:15,200 scenes or or you know, rough scenes. You know, I don't know 219 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:21,440 what the correct nomenclature would be to refer to those things as. But yeah, 220 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:25,359 is that is that a change from your personality when you were younger? 221 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,440 Maybe? Or is that kind of how you've always been? I think I've 222 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:37,720 always been exploratory. My philosophy when I got into porn was I just wanted 223 00:18:37,759 --> 00:18:42,680 to stand out. So I tried to pick a name that nobody else had, 224 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:51,119 and I tried to do scenes that nobody else seemed to want to do. 225 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,680 Some things might not necessarily be my cup of tea or something I do 226 00:18:56,759 --> 00:19:02,200 in my personal life, but I'm willing to try almost anything, and I've 227 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,160 been pleasantly surprised. Some things I thought I wouldn't like. I've turned out 228 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:15,480 to love just from being adventurous and open minded and experimental. Nowadays, I've 229 00:19:15,559 --> 00:19:21,880 found my niche and the things I really enjoy. But at the beginning, 230 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:29,160 I think I also got pigeonholed because the first few scenes I did were so 231 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,759 extreme. Companies just expected that from me, which is totally cool and stuff 232 00:19:33,759 --> 00:19:41,160 that I'm willing to do, and then gosh, I shot for legal pornos. 233 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,079 So many times, I've just like really fallen into the anal niche, 234 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:51,880 which I enjoy. I haven't done like any gang bangs in the last few 235 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,640 years. It's probably been Yeah, I think it's been like almost three years 236 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:00,279 now, But I still love putting things in my butt. But um, 237 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,640 there's some things I've tried like only once, like um, like piss water 238 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:11,079 boarding and um like putting what was it egg beaters in my butt? I 239 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:17,960 think, um, But also I'm just kind of I'm just a silly person. 240 00:20:18,079 --> 00:20:21,279 So to me, it's like it doesn't have to be hot for me, 241 00:20:21,519 --> 00:20:26,079 Like I think of it more as I'm doing like circus acts, And 242 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,279 to me, it's like hilarious and like it doesn't bother me and I'm not 243 00:20:29,319 --> 00:20:34,720 ashamed about it and I'm happy to be getting paid for that and creating entertainment 244 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:40,759 for people. I also like, don't really take it too seriously. Sure, 245 00:20:41,279 --> 00:20:44,720 I hope that makes sense. It does the piss water boarding. Did 246 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,440 you give up the location of isis when you did that or no? Or 247 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:53,799 did you stay strong? No? I stayed strong. I think it helps 248 00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:56,960 that I didn't know where it was in the first place. Twelve guys in 249 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:02,000 the back of a ninety four Toyota tuck somewhere or going God damn. I 250 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,079 hope she does not crack on us. Okay, Um, yeah, she 251 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,160 was a Manchurian candidate. She doesn't think she knows where it is, but 252 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,480 it's in there somewhere, just a little more piss than she would have broken. 253 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,119 Um uh so, so the piggyback on top of that, would you 254 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:22,200 have looking back, I understand you do enjoy these scenes. Would you have 255 00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:27,880 worked your way into it a little easier? Or no? Do you have 256 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:33,400 regret? Not a negative like terrible regret, Like obviously you don't regret shooting 257 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,799 those scenes, but do you wish for your own career sake that you had 258 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:41,519 taken it a little slower from the beginning or no? I don't think so. 259 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,319 Um, I don't think I would have changed anything. Also, I 260 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:55,799 was in a really unique and at times difficult position because I was independent, 261 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,599 self booking, and I had all these shitty tattoos, and I had a 262 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:06,799 mullet, and I'm like icy white, and I don't have blonde hair, 263 00:22:07,319 --> 00:22:11,880 so I just like, don't look like a lot of the girls. Or 264 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,599 at the time there's more girls who look like me now, But at the 265 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,440 time, so many companies are like, oh, I'd love to shoot you, 266 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,680 but your tattoos are shitty, or maybe you should get a tan, 267 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:26,599 or like dye your hair. So I thought, will like if these companies 268 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,640 won't hire me at least like the ones who do crazy shit well, and 269 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:37,480 I've just kind of forced my way in that way. I think if I 270 00:22:37,559 --> 00:22:44,319 was getting in now, maybe I would have done the same stuff, but 271 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:51,839 just for my own content. But content wasn't as king as it was or 272 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,359 as it is now. As I don't know how to say that. The 273 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,079 only fans wasn't a thing like I didn't have one until twenty seventeen. I 274 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:04,960 started shooting in twenty fifteen, so we had like webcam and we had many 275 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:10,200 of its and shit like that, but it was a completely different ballgame, 276 00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:15,000 and I was really like heavily relying on shoots to make a living. Sure, 277 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:22,440 sure, So would that be your recommendation for girls nowadays? Everything every 278 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,039 girl we've talked to, it seems like like to me, again from an 279 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:27,200 ignorant outside perspective, I go, shit, I want to shoot as many 280 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,400 scenes as possible. I want to get my name out there as much as 281 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,960 possible. Not me obviously, like if I looked attractive like a woman, 282 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:41,839 but I everything we've talked to was a lot of these girls go only fans 283 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,559 is king, And I do these sites for exposure. I do these sites 284 00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:51,880 for names where I might make X amount of dollars for the shooting at browsers 285 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,480 or somewhere else. The translation is ten x that over here on only Fans. 286 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,839 Is that your recommendation to, like, anyone looking to try and get 287 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:04,079 into the industry? Maybe? And I would also say only fans too. 288 00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:08,039 Seems like you have a lot more control over your own what you want to 289 00:24:08,039 --> 00:24:11,759 do, what type of thing you want to produce. You're not stuck in 290 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:15,640 a position where you're shooting something you may not necessarily love right off the bat. 291 00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:21,759 Would that be your recommendation to really kind of learn how to create your 292 00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:26,079 own thing and then branch out from there or is it the way you did 293 00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:30,480 it, kind of dive into mainstream sites and then maybe establish something down the 294 00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:37,680 line. I think yeah the former. As you were saying, it's really 295 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,799 smart to create your own content. You can make money off of it forever. 296 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,839 And we don't have royalties or residuals in this industry, so the closest 297 00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:52,359 thing we have is the content we make. Like I'm still making money on 298 00:24:52,440 --> 00:25:00,559 shoots I did like seven years ago or eight years ago, and I still 299 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:07,599 like being on set from time to time shooting with my friends and companies I 300 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,519 really like working for and it's fun to get my name out there. It's 301 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:15,279 great exposure. Like a recently shot for Reflective Desire, who I was like 302 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:22,720 a huge fan of before, and I'm a huge ly Tex enthusiast and I've 303 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,400 been trying to put myself more into that community. So that was great at 304 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,160 putting me in front of the eyes of a late Tex fans who may not 305 00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:36,960 be aware of me. But it's all about balance. You know, some 306 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:41,440 people I know really love being on set all the time, and they don't 307 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:48,160 really like running their only fans and they do it for the income, but 308 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,119 they really love like the experience of being on set and being around people or 309 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,160 meeting new people, Whereas like I'm a lot more. I'm really shy and 310 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,000 with drawn. I'm like a homebody. So my ideal setup is what I 311 00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:06,039 did the other day. I had two of my friends come over. We 312 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,680 like fisted each other's butts, and then another friend of mine filmed it and 313 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:14,960 I didn't have to go anywhere. Piggy backing onto that real quick. You 314 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,920 mentioned earlier you watched porn when you were younger, and so many girls we 315 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,960 talked to have said no, not really, I didn't really, did you 316 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:30,200 have favorite performers or were you just a search terms type of girl. I 317 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:37,279 had favorite performers, for sure. My favorite was and still is Racco Saffretti. 318 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,440 So when I met and worked with him, I cried in the middle 319 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:47,039 of the scene because it was such a surreal experience and he's such a cool 320 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,880 dude. Like, for as brutal as he is in the scenes, he's 321 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:56,720 like a perfect gentleman. And it's it's something like I wasn't expecting, but 322 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:03,119 a really cool and welcome surprise, for sure. And I always loved like 323 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:08,440 Sasha Gray and at Schwartz. I loved Jada fire like girls like that who 324 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:12,160 are just nasty and seemed like they were having a lot of fun. Sure, 325 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,640 sure, Shane, did you have any question? I could just go 326 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,960 on forever, Shane, so you can continue. Yeah, I'm enjoying piggybacking 327 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,480 off of you. Okay, all right, here's a ridiculous question. But 328 00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:29,720 after the release of it last year, did you get just like your email 329 00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:33,119 slammed with people going, hey, will you do a Wednesday Adam shoot? 330 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,640 Will you do another Wednesday Adam shoot? After that Netflix series? Was there? 331 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,359 I know you've done things in the past obviously, but I'm wondering if 332 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,319 there was any kind of a Lisa and Sarah Palin type renaissance when that show 333 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,920 came out, or maybe it was too much of like a kid show for 334 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,759 you know, is there something planned? Are you guys going to do your 335 00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:56,039 own series or it's like, you know, you shoot that and you know 336 00:27:56,079 --> 00:28:00,720 it's like the same thing except more fucking obviously. To be honest, I 337 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:07,319 haven't seen the show. I've heard it's cool. I'm it takes me so 338 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,640 long to get through shows like I'm I'm still watching Game of Thrones I haven't 339 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,400 finished yet, so I'm really bad at watching TV. I got a lot 340 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:21,359 of inquiries on my only fans, mostly from people who are just wondering if 341 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,839 I was a fan of the show. But I don't really get too many 342 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,920 cosplay requests, I think because that's not something I do a lot. I 343 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,599 just dress up as myself and my fans are really interesting. Sometimes they seem 344 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,839 more interested in talking with me about like swords and things like that than like 345 00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:45,200 actually like dirty talking, which is super cool. Like I'm happy for everything, 346 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:52,240 but yeah, I think for the gothic girls who do a lot of 347 00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:55,200 like cosplay and theme shoots. They probably got that question a lot, but 348 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,359 I think the way my fan base is, it just didn't occur to a 349 00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,960 lot of them. Gotcha got a lot more sword questions, I guess yeah, 350 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,799 when Wednesday came out? What kind of sword would Wednesday use? What 351 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,960 kind of dagger? Okay? Fair enough? Fair enough? Who is your 352 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,200 second best friend in the industry? Because I think I know your best friend. 353 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,039 I think I frightened her. At Exotica in New Jersey this year, 354 00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:25,799 I walked up with a business card, which is a ridiculous concept in and 355 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:29,119 of itself. It's a little business card. It's got a cure all the 356 00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:32,039 girls we've interviewed, and I went, Hi, how you doing, Lydia, 357 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,279 Um, it's nice meeting you. I was just wondering if you would 358 00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:37,599 be interested in doing an interview sometime. And if I'm being honest with you, 359 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,400 as much as I like Lydia's work, Lydia Black, we're talking about 360 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,200 here, my goal was like, fuck, if I can really impress this 361 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,440 check, maybe I can get to Charlotte and see if I could try and 362 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,079 do it. So we just skipped that, but I would still love to 363 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:55,240 interview her. Someday. Is she your best friend in the industry? Oh, 364 00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:57,759 you're going to break some part my best friend in the industry. I 365 00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:03,240 think my second closest friend, at least the person I spent the most time 366 00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:08,359 with would probably be John Paul the Pope, because we're on set together all 367 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:14,400 the time. So he's like, I forgot to mention this in the previous 368 00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:18,759 question because I gave such a long winded response and I got sidetracked when you 369 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:26,000 were asking about directing. But he just shows me. He's shown me how 370 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,200 he does it, and he handles the bondage because I don't trust myself to 371 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,079 tie anybody up, okay, so when I need that for a scene, 372 00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:38,960 he's in charge of that. But yeah, I see him like all the 373 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,240 time, and we have the same personal trainer, so I see him or 374 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,160 I saw his wife today at the gym actually like for right before this, 375 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,599 but he's amazing, love GP. I need to make a point. So 376 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,640 I'm at work, and this is how ridiculous it is. I worked for 377 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,079 a pharmaceutical company and I'm talking to this girl from my job. This is 378 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:06,680 probably eight years ago, and for some reason I'm pulling up maybe not eight 379 00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:10,599 years ago, maybe five years ago. I'm pulling up your Instagram and I'm 380 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,440 going, oh my god, look how gorgeous this girl is. Look how 381 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,960 hot this girl is. Blah blah blah. She's my favorite performer. Da 382 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,160 da da da dah. And God bless you Megan for putting up with me 383 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,319 at work. Still a very close friend of mine. But it's so funny 384 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:30,000 because she pointed out why I was such a fan of yours. So I 385 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:33,440 would just like to I'm gonna change my background. Can you see my background? 386 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,440 Okay, I don't need anyone else seeing it, and we're just recording 387 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,640 you, So I'm gonna change my background. So I'm gonna make a case 388 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:48,720 to you and we'll see once it happens. Here's a picture of your tattoo. 389 00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:51,440 I don't know if it's on the right or left for you. Here's 390 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,000 a picture of my wife's tattoo. Okay, Oh that's so sweet. Okay. 391 00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:02,279 Here's a picture of Jonesy I believe, yes, and a picture. 392 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,359 Yeah, her other cat's name is Ripley. I'm not a creep. I 393 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,480 just know that. Yeah. This is a picture of Jonesy. And this 394 00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:15,480 is a picture of She's got like a million names, but that's our cat 395 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:19,880 over there. Okay, So I'm going to show you the picture of my 396 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,599 wife next. This is what Megan at work pointed out to me. She 397 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,079 goes, oh, you like this guy, Yeah, yeah, you like 398 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,680 this girl because of her fucking cat. That's why that's I definitely find her 399 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,359 so attractive because of this. So I point this out. I go, 400 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:38,680 this is my wife. Oh she's beautiful, and this is Charlotte. And 401 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,400 this is my wife and this is Charlotte and it's a resemblance. Megan points 402 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,039 out to me. She goes, I mean she looks like Jen like, 403 00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:50,559 that's why you like her. And I was like, oh yeah, yeah. 404 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:53,920 So it's like you get to see somebody fucking your girl because you've never 405 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:59,400 done it. So you're like, now you get to experience that, like 406 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,759 by ariously through Charlotte, you know, because your girl, like whenever she 407 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,400 fucks, you're not around. You don't even know what that's like. So 408 00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:12,200 yeah, that makes perfect sense. Oh oh man, yeah, that's why 409 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,039 we can do a show because you get me, you understand what it was. 410 00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:19,720 So Charlotte, I would like to put it out there if anything tragic 411 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,960 were to ever happen to my wife. I will accept you as my new 412 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,680 love because you have fit all the prerequisites that have been laying out. Thank 413 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,119 thank you. I appreciate that I ran that by my wife last night. 414 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,319 I was a little nervous about that bit. I was like, so, 415 00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:37,319 I'm going to point out that if you ever die in some sort of plane 416 00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:39,920 accident. And Jen looks at me, she goes, you gotta make it 417 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,759 so specific, and I was like, yeah, okay, maybe I won't, 418 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,400 but sweet was your coffee this morning? Me? Yeah? Oh dude, 419 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,759 I'm manic right now. I was up till three reading about Jean pash 420 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,079 start Well, just wondering like if she started dosing it with Annie Freeze. 421 00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:00,839 Yeah, oh Jen, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I'm starting 422 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:05,160 to get a little sleepy as hyper as I am. So I wanted to, 423 00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:07,639 well, Shane, let's let's go with your question, because this girl's 424 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:10,320 a fan, and Shane has a question he likes to ask all of our 425 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,599 performers. The answer is obviously yes, But I think, Shane, if 426 00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:17,119 you could give her, like a how much is she into this? That 427 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:22,039 would be appreciated. Oh sure, yeah, I guess like on a scale 428 00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:28,079 of one to ten. Where would you put piss or where would you rank 429 00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:32,920 it? I think ten? Like literally, yeah, a couple days ago, 430 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:42,960 I was spitting Vanessa Vega's piss into Lydia black skeeping butthole. That's my 431 00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:45,440 favorite ones. I am. Yeah, we're having a great time. I 432 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,559 I like, yeah, when they fill the butthole up with the pea and 433 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:52,800 then they roll over and all the piss falls out onto someone's face. Oh. 434 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:58,599 We tried to do that, but I think I think Lydia's butt is 435 00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:02,199 just too greedy. So it was like absorbing the p Wow. Yeah, 436 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,239 maybe you had some nutrients left over and she was, you know, absorbing 437 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:14,880 them um with her uh digestive system, you know, because that's what you're 438 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,159 a lower intestine. Does it makes sense? Makes sense? Yeah? Yeah, 439 00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:22,559 shame was a biology major. I wasn't, but only this type of 440 00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:25,760 biology, which is got kicked the whole biology. Yeah yeah, um, 441 00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:30,960 okay, well, I mean I want to delve into it real quick. 442 00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:36,320 But and this is gonna be a drastic shift. That's why I saved this 443 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,360 towards the end because some people might be like, oh, but she's not 444 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,079 talking about piss and buttholes and stuff. Anymore? Uh Sart? Why is 445 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:50,920 Sart your favorite philosopher of all time? He's actually not my favorite philosophy? 446 00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:54,239 Or are you gonna be? Are you announcing a name change to Charlotte Nietsche 447 00:35:55,079 --> 00:36:00,559 Charlotte came that would be dope too, but I hadn't. I still have 448 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:09,559 got nausea tattooed on my um torso in French or English in English. I 449 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:15,599 just thought it was fitting, and my first name is really Charlotte, so 450 00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:19,639 I thought I should pick a French last name to go with it. Um. 451 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,760 But um, I'm I'm got to say, I'm really into like Russian 452 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:29,599 literature, like it's just so much more bleak. Um. I do love 453 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,079 I do love the French for sure. I love Um, I love Camu 454 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,039 and Provost and all those dudes. Um, but like there's something like really 455 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:45,119 appealing about like Churchenev and Dostoevski for sure. Yeah, I'm I see going 456 00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:47,480 with a French last name with Charlotte. But I wonder why not a farm 457 00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:55,360 animal name web Web would have been cool. Charlotte Webb. I'm sure it's 458 00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,960 taken already. I was checking, I acte. I went through you know, 459 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:06,840 possible surnames, and I was checking, Um, I didn't want anything 460 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,480 that had been taken, even like somebody with a different first name but the 461 00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:14,480 same last name. I wanted something completely unique. Well, yeah, start 462 00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:17,239 is very unique. It's no one else I could ever think of would have 463 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:23,559 that in porn. So it's definitely a way to stand out. So I 464 00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:28,480 wonder, I wonder if if that's gonna be a new trend with like stage 465 00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:31,960 names in the future, where each one is going to pick a philosopher, 466 00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:37,480 like we're gonna see Dostayevsky, Nietzsche, Kyrka, guard like Kant, and 467 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,280 like it's gonna be you know that, you're gonna start like this new thing. 468 00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:47,639 No, it's gonna be Kardashian, Bieber, fucking Reynolds, you know 469 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,119 all of that stuff. Lizzen, I'm gonna make the porn smart. We 470 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:57,119 would all enjoy that. Yes, yes, and and and all of these 471 00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,679 girls are very smart in their own way. But I can just see a 472 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,360 man, You're going like, dude, they're not gonna understand Nietsche, don't 473 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,760 go with that, go with Bieber, and the girls is gonna be like, 474 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,199 yeah, all right, whatever, I don't care. Yeah, that 475 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,679 goes better with butthole. So I spent I was up till about three four 476 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,679 in the morning last night watching videos and trying not to lose track with my 477 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:22,559 add mind ten seconds into learning about start, So I'm just gonna then get 478 00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:27,159 this out there, even though it's not your favorite philosopher of all time. 479 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,960 The one thing I really found interesting was about the meaninglessness of the universe, 480 00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:38,000 right, and for people that don't know, the point of it was so 481 00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:44,760 much that the universe is out of order. So spending your time and you 482 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,880 guys can both correct me if I'm wrong. You guys took philosophy classes and 483 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:53,960 I took a German expressionism film. So that's the difference between us. The 484 00:38:54,159 --> 00:39:00,639 universe is meaningless because it is inherently out of order, and trying to find 485 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,400 order within a meaningless universe is senseless. Is that correct? Is that the 486 00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:12,960 idea behind that sounds like a stupid task to me? Yeah? Yeah, 487 00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:16,760 pretty much. Okay, So my question is what if the purpose of it 488 00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:23,800 is the search itself? There are so few people who have time to contemplate 489 00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:30,119 regrets in their lives and such as they die. Now, everyone that's died 490 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:35,599 in my life has been pretty sudden and instant, which is terrible. But 491 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,519 also someone argue better than watching someone die in a hospital bed. But I 492 00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:43,920 also assume at the end of a person in a hospital bed's life, they're 493 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,840 sitting there and maybe they have dementia, they're losing it, or they're in 494 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,360 so much pain that they don't have to sit back and go like, boy, 495 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,679 I regret searching for the meaning of the universe. What if it's the 496 00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:59,840 hope or the thrill of finding order that is the purpose behind searching for order. 497 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,480 It's kind of cam movie. A lot of people agree with that. 498 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,400 Yeah, that's kind of cam mooe. Man, that's like the whole thing 499 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,199 with Ciss pushing the stone up the hill and then down the hill and then 500 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:15,719 he's laughing. It's like you, it doesn't have to beat the search, 501 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,239 as you put it, but you make your own meaning. You know, 502 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,079 like there's nothing woven into the fabric of the cosmos that is meaning. But 503 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,800 if you're not gonna find meaning in life, the only other option is to 504 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,920 just kill yourself, because like, what the fuck is the point of being 505 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:38,360 a lot? Okay, well, then I wish I didn't just watch an 506 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,480 hour and twenty minutes of those videos last night because it just had YouTube tell 507 00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:45,920 me about it. Yeah, yeah, we would have just told you. 508 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:50,440 You should have just asked us. See, these are my favorite interviews. 509 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,719 Sometimes we'll get from the various pr people we work with. We get asked 510 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,679 to do an interview for this, and it's a lot of fun talking to 511 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,639 girls and it's a lot of fun the whole time going like, so do 512 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,599 you like come? Is it cool? You know, going into that, 513 00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:07,719 But I gross. My favorite thing about this is just kind of talking to 514 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,199 a performer on a human level, because that's always been my idea behind this. 515 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,920 If I were talking to the top NASCAR guy in the world, whoever 516 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,000 the fuck that is, I would sit around and I would do my research 517 00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:23,800 to figure out what makes this the top person in the world, what drives 518 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,360 them, what gives them the abilities to make this the top person. If 519 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,320 I was talking to the top animator, I would do that as well. 520 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,760 And what I appreciate this is so many people who are at the top of 521 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,519 their craft this case it's born give us their time and their ability to sit 522 00:41:40,599 --> 00:41:44,679 here and talk to us as human beings. And I think that actually for 523 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,199 the people that watch this and listen to this. I think it's beneficial because 524 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:52,639 I think it helps create And you tell me if this is bad or wrong, 525 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,000 Charlotte, I hope what this series does is it creates somewhat of a 526 00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:01,599 separation where people understand, like there's a performer and there is a person behind 527 00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:05,760 this. And so many times I see on social media where it gets a 528 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,440 little blended and I get a little nervous for women. Just you know, 529 00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:15,320 it's so easy to find information nowadays, you know, do you have this 530 00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:20,480 is going to be one of my last questions here. Do you have people 531 00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,639 that you've had to like almost let them know you're going a little too far? 532 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:29,079 Obviously don't name them or their user names, but like, do you 533 00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:30,519 get people in your comments where you're like, ah shit, I think this 534 00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:36,519 guy's literally in love with me and thinks the performer is me? Or has 535 00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:40,079 everyone been pretty cool with you? I mean most people are cool. There 536 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,960 are if you're on the internet in any capacity, there are going to be 537 00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:50,199 people form per social relationships with you. And I've dealt with that quite a 538 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:57,039 bit, and that's one reason I'm way less open online than I used to 539 00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:01,159 be. Like, I don't talk about my personal relationships. I don't really 540 00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:07,280 talk about where I live. I don't like talk about or post about like 541 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:13,360 the hobbies that I have. I don't post like my pets so much, 542 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,960 Like I've got a lot more animals than just the two cats. But those 543 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:27,119 guys are pretty safe. But yeah, I think you're already so naked, 544 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,119 like on a spiritual level when you're putting yourself out there online, not just 545 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:37,679 doing porn, but but anything. So it's important for me to leave some 546 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:45,519 things for myself and have things I enjoy that are not for anybody else to 547 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,719 see, or something that I enjoy, but then I turn it into something 548 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,719 I make money from, so it becomes like more of a job than a 549 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:02,480 hobby. So it's really important to find a balance. And in this age 550 00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:12,639 of social media, being a performer, you've never been so accessible to anybody 551 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,800 like it used to be people couldn't meet a performer unless they came to Avian 552 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,519 or something, or they might be able to send them a fan mail, 553 00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:24,760 I guess, but now it's like anybody at any time can send you a 554 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:30,840 message or tweet at you. So it's important to withdraw and have some separation 555 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:36,480 at least from my mental sanity. So, folks, if you're out there 556 00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:40,360 and you're listening to this and you enjoy Charlotte's content, don't fucking show up 557 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,559 at her house. That's creepy and weird. Okay, don't at her. 558 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,079 Don't you can in a few times, Yeah, it's not good. By 559 00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:51,239 the way, you don't mention your other pets. I if you want to 560 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,320 cut out the names of your cats, I only found them on Oh No 561 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,440 Worries. No, but the boys I'm always happy to talk about. But 562 00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:01,800 I have like a lot of Oh yeah, that's what I was gonna say. 563 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,440 Anyone who would come in to steal them, You're walking into like disaster. 564 00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,000 I'm terrified of everything else you have in your house aside from you and 565 00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:15,360 the cats. But so leave her alone. If you see her and just 566 00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:19,039 enjoy her content, please please, Shane said, don't at her. Do 567 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,840 at her and let her know, Hey, I really enjoy your content. 568 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,440 I just purchased this. Don't at her and go please be my wife. 569 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,719 That's my job. I will do that anyway. Ladies and gentlemen, we 570 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,280 were speaking to Charlotte start today. You can find her on Twitter, Instagram, 571 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,719 and only fans at Goth Charlotte. The store where you can purchase merch 572 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:45,280 and sweatshirts and T shirts and everything else is going to be goth Charlotte dot 573 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,519 store and website down the line, right Yes, I'm working on it. 574 00:45:50,599 --> 00:45:52,960 It'll be goth Charlotte dot com. Right now, it's just a link tree 575 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:59,440 that redirects to other sidesime on. But eventually, if you keep checking it, 576 00:45:59,639 --> 00:46:02,760 maybe in a few months it'll have stuff on there. So load up 577 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:09,039 your PayPal or whoever is accepting sex worker dollars nowadays, whoever's not being judged 578 00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:14,480 by big banks somewhere, and head over to goth Charlotte dot com see her 579 00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:16,239 link tree and go like, hmm, what can I purchase today? Do 580 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,920 you have a many VIDs account? Yes? There you go go buy stuff 581 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,719 there, sign up for her only fans here, do this and that, 582 00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:25,199 buy a T shirt, buy a sweatshirt, give it to your wife. 583 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,039 She'll be like, who the fuck is this? And then you go, 584 00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:30,159 this is this chick I heard on Luine. She's great anyway, Ladies and 585 00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:34,320 gentlemen, that was Charlotte Sarty. Thank you very much for your time today, 586 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,920 Charlotte, Thank you so much for having me, I appreciate it. 587 00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:44,400 Thanks for listening to your worst friend going