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Just tot now for our Big twelve
breakdown, I'll look around it to be

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a Big twelve conference where we break
down the latest happenings in this league,

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and we begin each and every week
with our hot days and Tom, we're

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gonna plited discuss even with no Big
twelve games going on this upcoming week,

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but now that we have a number
of ways to go with it. Whether

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you want to talk coaching, James
Wise, branch Reportalum, you know the

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Bowld situations, whatever it may be, Tom, the floor is yours.

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I'll begin with you. Where are
you gonna go to hot take? Wise

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to Big twelveth game. I'm gonna
go to hot take where I know at

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the best. And if you listen
to all seasons, you'd probably say,

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well, Tom's probably gonna still water
and you're pretty spun on. We know

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that Spencer Sanders is not returning to
this Oklahoma State Cowboys team. We know

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that Tracey Ford probably I don't know, maybe the best defensive player on the

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team. Um, you know you
could you could throw around some different options

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on off on the defensive side of
the ball. H He has also entered

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the transfer portal. You can look
to some sort of what's happening in still

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Water scandal when you talk about the
younger Pressley brother. Braylon Pressley also entered

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the transferring portal. You can you
know there's there's several Oshue players entering the

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transfer portal, um, but none
other brought the attention to national media,

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like Spencer Sanders saying, Hey,
I'm dipping out Jones hot take hot take

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a lot of people and still or
I think I wanted Kay McNamara he ends

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up going to Iowa. UM,
you know you can. You can do

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dj from Clemson. You could you
could want that, or you could say

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something like that. Um for dj
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his last name, I call him
dj You um come to Stillwater hot take

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care and it might not be too
much of a hot take. I'm not

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going big this week. I'm saying
Hutskin Hudson card coming to Payne County,

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coming to Stillwater, Oklahoma, Hudson
card Texas Longhorns played great when Quinn yours

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was you know, out and out
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did what he needed to do.
I like Hutskin Hudson card. In the

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next two weeks to say he's come
to Stillwater, Oklahoma. Well, you

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you must have been watching college football
now by chat sports, where I listened

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Hudson Cards number one destination as Oploma
State before Spencer Sanders entered the portal.

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So with that, yeah, I
think Hudson Card's gonna still Water when it

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salt said and done. But my
hot take, I'll stick with the Cowboys

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as well, Tom, And I'll
say this. They lost so much and

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we've heard a lot over the last
couple of days of how much Mike Gunde

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lost that locker room and lost the
respect of those in the locker room,

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and that you know, Casey Dunn
wasn't doing a good job, that Derek

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Mason wasn't doing a good job.
I think next year is maker break for

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Mike Gundee. You cannot have this
happen again. You can't have another seven

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win season and half your roster walk
out the door. That's not acceptable,

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not acceptable. Mike Gundee has to
go back into the portal and go get

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more talent. And they got to
win more football games next year. Oklahoma

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States got great facilities, they got
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as one of the flagship teams of
the entire league now going forward. Um,

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but they can't say it will be
content. This is a team that

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needs to be contented for conference titles
every year. Seven wins should not be

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acceptable. Um, you know they
they I think it's this puts the pressure

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on man. I wish Taboon Pickings
was still around for a lot of reasons.

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But if t Boon was around,
they have already hung Casey done.

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Outside of the stadium. Te Boon
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and he would not have settled for
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Yeah, Casey Dunn's got to be
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honest, that I think what hurts
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Braylon Pressley's gone. I think that's
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one of the running backs, is
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lot of people are like, oh, well he can hit the trans reportal

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and that's you know, it's it's
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and YadA yada's being thrown around.
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Dominic Richardson's gone. He was a
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We saw what all the good Gordon
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to take a back seat. Um, the defense worries me more. And

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also it came out that and I
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only on a one year contract,
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wants to do. His name got
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other jobs. I think even Stanford
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job. But we'll see what they
do to extend him. But Jones,

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you know what, even even um
the president of the university, doctor Shrum,

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her husband even got into a little
Twitter trouble. M in the Mason

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Cobb thing. You know, you
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you know who Mason Cobb is lyne
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trans reportal he was like one of
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But there was a little background info
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saying hey, let's throw some money
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OSU. So it hasn't been formally
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expects Mason Cobb to go to A
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not only do you lose players because
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Mike Gundy has lost the locker room. Um, you're also losing players to

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other former Big twelve schools that are
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a weird time. Jones and n
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on to see how schools build up
their NL NIL program. Um, they're

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they're doing right now at ls who
pokes with a purpose, trying to get

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fans to throw in five dollars a
month to to you know, maybe even

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booster you know, it's essentially boosters. It's like the rather give money though

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tom uh de kay us nil collective
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to the endowment, going back to
the students whatever. I mean,

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Yeah, I wouldn't pay anything.
I'd pay five dollars a month to fire

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case he done. See, if
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I'm buying players. I'm not wasting
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Yeah that's fair too, But yeah, I mean, Oklahoma State's in big

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turmoil right now. Things are in
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for sure on that front. Also
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at there staying within the same state
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they've done a really good job.
They've already had some nice pickups in

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the portal. They haven't lost a
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We know that they got a great
recruiting class coming in and similar to

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what I sit with OSU, but
different circumstances for Owe You here. We

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know that Brent Vinibles in his year
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proven the guy can recruit. He's
a good salesman. I mean he brings

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in He's brought in some good high
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transfer portal. He's a good salesman. But is he a good head coach?

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I don't know in this what the
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where it's at now, you have
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any way you want any year right
now, where you can bring in as

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many transfer portal and as many high
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as you're you Catho at eighty five. Brent's done a good job finding talent,

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no question, but pressures on a
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I think next year, realistically anything
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Oklahoma team is a failure. And
that's an indictment directly of Brent Vnibals.

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Now, I mean, I can't
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I mean, I can't say you're
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to be fair Jones, A lot
of though you fans expected that this

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year, which was you know that
that should have never been expected, but

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you don't terrible timing for preventables of
of his hiring and trying to recruit.

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There was no way he could have
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But excuse I mean, this year
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They haven't seen this about a year
since the nineties. A lot of OU

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fans have never seen this because edn't
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lot of this year was copium,
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it copium. You know, he
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and the roster being gutted, and
then you had just copium of Dylan Gabriel

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being the second coming of fucking Sam
Bradford, which was never gonna happen.

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But you call it copium for a
reason, you know. But you're absolutely

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right now yere on his belt.
Bret Ventibles has to get together. He's

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got two recruits, he's brought in
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is the disappointment. I think anything
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win nine. You gotta win nine
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or less, then is the grounds
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It depends really who's available. Yeah, I see we're going with that.

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Moving on for the transfer portal one
coaching change in the Big twelve, and

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this still sounds even weird to say. In the Big Twelve, Cincinnati hires

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Scott Saderfield from Louisville to be their
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We talked to him last week's show, Tom that it was a huge loss

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for Cincinnati and for the new Big
twelve to lose Luke Fickle, who is

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probably one of the top ten fifteen
coaches in America to Wisconsin, that Cincinnati

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would let him go like that,
but to replace him with Scott Saderfield.

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Saderfield hasn't done shit at Louisville.
He hasn't done anything there. I mean

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has he been bad. I mean
he hasn't necessarily been bad, but he

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hasn't been good either. He's just
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knows how to recruit the area,
and he's been in the Power five at

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Louisville. I get all that,
But there was a lot of good candidates,

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and there was a lot of people
interested in that Cincinnati job, and

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I thought Saderfield was closer to getting
fired than getting another Power five job Cincinnati.

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You just went to the playoff a
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opportunity to build off of the success
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personally, I think they blew it. I'd give this this hiring at f

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toom. Who would you have gotten
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I may have just promoted Mike Trussell, their DC, the nephew of Jim

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Trussell. Um. Yeah, you
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probably been better. I think even
a trade. I think even bringing in

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Jim Leonard from Wisconsin would have been
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with that either. Um, even
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don't know. I don't know if
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more money. Okay, here's a
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for Colorado to the Big twelve today. Yeah, Um, if Cincinnati offered

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No, Cincinnati's an easier place to
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you probably don't want both either.
That might not mix. Well,

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chili. Yeah, that sounds like
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the stomach. Yeah, especially like
an edible before that. Yeah, that

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would have been good. Yeah.
Man, I couldn't even imagine. Yeah,

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goodness. But I nott Cincinnati blew
this. I hated that higher.

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Well maybe it's Sanderfield proves me wrong. We'll see. But I thought it

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was a mistake and they're gonna regret
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that program back. But to this, um that's Cincinnati program. Tom you

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know, everybody thought they missed it
when they hired Tommy Tubberville. Tommy Tuberville

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still won average like seven wins a
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you know, just Scoots the pooch
hiring Centerville here, but I mean the

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way that program's going and the way
things to stabilize, I mean, they

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could still be even a seven win
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Like part of what Cincinnati has done
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around that program have made it good
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I mean, yeah, I mean
going to the Big Twelve, I think

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they'll get players that they normally wouldn't
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interested to see, you know,
I think the first year will tell us

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a lot, you know, and
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the Big twelve. And I'm very
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what they can do and see what
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bring to the Big twelve like they
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not like Tulsa coming to the Big
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not saying that. I'm not saying
that lightly in terms of like, Okay,

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you guys didn't already know that,
Um, you know, like Cincinnati

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can be a good team. I
mean, look at I see them,

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kind of like I see TCU right
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had some success. Obviously, TCU
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you know, had you're Andy Dalton
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and then came into the Big twelve
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I mean, damn it, look
at TCU. They're in the fucking playoff

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m you know, as as the
Power five team and went essentially undefeated until

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they met a very strong, resilient
Case State team that took him over time

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to get it done in the Big
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five years that I couldn't see Cincinnati
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if it's not five years, give
it ten years. Or if it's not

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even ten'll give it, give
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that in four you know, Um, that's not out of the question.

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It's it's the wrong higher. Um, if they keep fickle, I think

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they have a shot to make the
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Not now, I think that that's
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Do you blame Luke Fickle? Do
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Why would you want to go to
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three program behind Ohio State in Michigan
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it could be the best, to
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of the best of the Big twelve
every year, that's true. How much

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money? How much money? Though? What's the money differential? He got

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a pretty good good cut of the
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since he so, he's chasing the
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That's what I think. So he's
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real quick, and then we'll talk
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um with Colorado. Our buddy friend
of the show, Tim Brando, has

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been going around the last couple of
days and he suggesting that Dion is gonna

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bring Colorado back home to the Big
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couple months that Arizona wants to go
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they need somebody to go with them
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One of the things I wanted to
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have loved to see Dan on the
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the Big twelve primetime in the Big
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Deon's gonna start winning pretty fast at
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That'd be electric. So I mean, even if Dion wasn't that Colorado,

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I'd want Colorado in the league.
You had Deonto it, watch out,

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he would be the face of the
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I'm scared of that as just as
a Big twelve. Oh as you

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fan a little scared of that just
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That's a big party school, not
to mention the recreational marijuana, which should

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be on the ballot and is going
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vote in Oklahoma. So maybe we
compete with them, but damn it,

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man, I don't know if you're
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hell of a lot of fun.
And if you could play for a coach

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like Dion, Freaking's Sanders, then
why not. Uh, you know,

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he's he's he's the type of coach
that you know. I heard a lot

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of stuff happening in Jackson State,
Um, a lot of scandal stuff that

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I think is gonna come out soon. Um, but damn if if if

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you know Colorado, you've you've heard
the reports of, uh, well we

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don't have the money yet, but
we're gonna have the money. Um,

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well worth it. Um. You
know for a team that shit the bed

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so hard this season has been you
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they have shades of they have shades
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turnaround as much as our brows as
a piece of shit. But um,

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same turnaround I could see happening,
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mean Colorado could be. Colorado could
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And and you know we also heard
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they want to tap into the Pacific
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We take them anyway, but the
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heard your Marks say they're open for
business. And you got a couple of

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Eastern time zone schools. Now you
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UCF. You get all your Central
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time zone school and BYU. But
if you can get a couple more mountain

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and get into the Pacific. And
I know Gonzaga has been heavily rumored and

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there's been discussions as of lakes,
the floodgates are about to open. I

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know that we've been talking about this
for months on end, but something's got

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to break eventually. I don't know
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it's Gonzaga. I don't know if
it's one of the four corner schools,

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whatever it may be. There's too
much momentum, too much positive things head

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in this league's direction, the new
TV deal and all this, that the

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fruits of their labor is not going
to pay off with something here sooner rather

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than later at your time. I
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know if it's Colorado, Gonzaga or
whatever it may be, but something's gonna

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happen. Yeah, you know,
if Colorado drops and comes, or you

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know, maybe they've packaged the deal
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could very easily be the first Domino, the first real Domino to fall.

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Even getting Gonzaga at this point,
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Yeah. Can you imagine the basketball? I mean, the basketball is

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already on the real ride now.
I mean, what you know, is

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it pains me to say gotlie?
It hurts me. Last week, every

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Big twelve team in college basketball besides
freaking Oklahoma State obviously got votes for the

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Top twenty five. It's the best. I mean at this point, anybody

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that tells you that the Big Twelve
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to you, is biased, is
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It is absolutely the fucking English Premier
League of college basketball, and no

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one's even getting close. Um.
You know, the Big Twelve stands to

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put, you know, as many
as they can put in every single year

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into the Big Dance, and in
this year you could easily put I'm calling

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eight. Yeah. Uh. I
don't know if there's enough wins to go

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around for everybody to get eights.
But there what last year? Last year

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was there seven or seven? I
mean there's there's quality teams. I just

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don't know if there's the wins there. But I see where you're going at

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for sure, real quick, and
we have more time over the next couple

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of weeks to break down the College
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that we'll get. We'll do that
more of the next couple of weeks,

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but just kind of, you know, looking at this point here, TCU

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is in. They're the three seed, and we're gonna talk more about this

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with Riley Gates too here just a
moment, but Tom, I think this

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all worked out pretty good. TCU
loses a close game in overtime and they

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weren't punished for it. Case Day
gets their first Big twelve title in ten

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years. They've finished off the year
strong. We get a great game.

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The ratings were incredible. Ten million
people watched on Saturday afternoon to see that

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game, and you know, TCU
is still a okay. It also defeats

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the NA narrative too, that if
you're not Oklahoma or Texas you have to

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go undefeated and make the FWELF.
Well, they lost one game, they

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still made it in with them.
The best case scenario would have been if

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TCU would have you know, won
and just had no controversy whatsoever, you

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know, But but they didn't so
the next best thing I think worked out

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pretty dang well. TCU gets in
even with one loss. They lose a

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close game. Now they get to
regroup, they get to see what they

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did wrong, go fix those flaws. When you lose, your weaknesses are

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exposed. You have a chance to
get better off. That This could actually

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work out pretty nicely for TCU here. I mean yeah, And you know,

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TCU I think is very competitive,
and they have a high flying offense.

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You know, they get you know
what, three Hill, they get

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a month to figure it out,
and they know their opponent, Um,

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you know, Sunny Dikes has has
been you know, incredible for them.

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So uh, you know, TCU
should be rewarded for that. And they

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were and and you know, I
think the rest of the what we call

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the Hateful eight are rooting for the
hitting note toad baby. And I'll say

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this though, Um, TCU did
deserve to lose Saturday. When you don't

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go forward at the end of the
game in the fourth quarter, when you

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choose to play for overtime, I
mean that that right there, that's that's

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some pushy shit. And then in
overtime when they didn't call a quarterback sneak

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on either one of those goal line
plays. That was just stupid. Um.

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I hated that last year at the
end of that game. But hopefully

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they learned from it and they get
better. I think that people could be

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overlooking this TCU team against Michigan.
I can tell you this. I'm not

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picking TCU to win, but I
think TCU is going to be more competitive

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than people realize here for sure.
I mean they're not. You know,

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I mean KSE State that you know, the way they beat KSE State in

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the regular season, the way they
beat them. They were down by what

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like seventeen, Yeah, came back
to win by ten. Yeah. I

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mean in heard the quarterback in YadA, YadA, YadA. This this was

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already written in the in the stones, you know, for KSE State to

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to to pull this off. H
this is written in the sky. And

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and so you know, case State
gets what they want, they you know,

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you know KSE State Gali what they
lost to TCU. They lost to

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two Lane, which actually didn't end
up looking terrible. Um, considering all

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things, the way the two Lane
had their season, and then they lose

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two to Texas. Oh yeah,
I mean overall, you know, if

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a couple of things go k State's
way. We're talking about the Purple Cats

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in the playoff right so well,
and that's the other thing too, Like

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TCU in KSE State, obviously k
State's just as good as TCU. They

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won, you know, they won
the Big Twelve title. This new playoff,

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that TCU team, that KSE State
team that got off to a rough

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start. Now they come in with
momentum and they're the Big Twelve champs and

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they get a seat at the table
and let's see them figure it out.

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That new playoff comes in where it
helps out teams, uh like KSE State

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who may have started out slow,
but now they got it figured out.

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Now they reforced be wriking with I
mean, if if you threw KSE State

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in the fourteen playoff this year,
I think they would get have just as

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good a chance against Michigan as TCU
does. And you know, freaking watch

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out, Nick Saban, like you
know if if k State upset, well,

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I don't you know that's that's another
interesting part is case State beating Bama.

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Is that how big of an upset
is that? UM Bama's got a

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lot of opt outs already. UM
and Deuce Vaughan has already said he's playing

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for KSE State. So in a
regular season game, yeah, that would

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be an upset, But I don't
think with the circumstance. You know,

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Bowl games are not what they use. I think in terms of a program

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win, that's pretty still freaking huge. It'd be one of the biggest wins

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in KSE State history. And they
can pull it off. And I'm not

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gonna be shocked as they do.
No, I'm not either. I'm not

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gonna I can't. I can't wait
to see the line. I cannot wait

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to see the line. Well,
the line, I can tell you what

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it is right now. Well,
I'm saying, like maybe a week before.

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I'm sure it's Bama by ten right
now. The line right now for

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that game, Bama is a three
and a half point favor Oh wow,

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you know, I'm you know,
uh, we'll talk about that when it

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gets closer, obviously when we picked
that game, but uh, as it

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sounds right now, I'm I'm a
little homeward, but give me, give

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me KASE State. Okay, we'll
see more on the Big twelve, transfer

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portal, uh culculable PLAF and more. Riley Gates set to join US next

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stay with us. Drug us now
on the show this week from on three,

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one of their newest contributors covering college
football and everything in between. We're

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here to talk about the portal and
also the college football Playoff. It is

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a Riley Gates who's here with us
now. Riley appreciate jonnasped, you're just

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telling me before we started that you
were in Dallas, but you didn't get

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to see your caps at the Big
twel title game. What happened, Ben?

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Yeah? Yeah, my h one
of my friends from college, actually

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did a radio show with him in
college. He was getting married and he

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had me in his wedding and I
knew it was the victual championship, but

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I didn't really know if it'd be
an issue. And then, of course

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it did end up being an issue. But I guess that's a good problem

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to have, so to speak.
You know, So, did your buddy

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not think Case State was gonna be
in the title game? I don't even

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know if he ever even once thought
that it might be the lining up with

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the same day, And I sure
don't think anybody was thinking after they lost

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in two lane in Week three,
that's for sure, what a turnaround,

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and that Big Twelve title game delivered
ten million people watched and went right down

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to the end overtime case State gets
it done. And you know, I've

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looked at it this way, Riley. Good for KSE State to get to

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win and win their first title in
ten years, but for TCU, I

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was so glad the committee got it
right that they still we're not punished for

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losing that championship game, going to
overtime, holding the same spot they held

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before for a loss. I think
that worked out pretty well as good as

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it could have for all parties involved
here. Yeah, you know, and

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I think I mean, I was
pretty skeptical that they would still get in

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with the loss, just because of
the way that the Big Twelve usually gets

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treated. But I think that with
the type of fight that TCU showed and

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the type of season that they had, like, I think it was gonna

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be really tough to leave him out. I think probably the only way they

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were getting left out was you know, like a twenty point Kase State win

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or something like that. And honestly, looks like we were headed there for

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a little bit with how the game
was unfolding, and then of course they

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did what they did all season,
long fought back, made it a game

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late even over time. It was
a heck of a game. And I

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would have been real disappointed if they
would have been left out, not just

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because it would have meant that Alabama
was like I didn't really care for Alabama

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or not. It was just,
you know, a two loss team that

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didn't play for the conference championship versus
a team that just suffered their first loss

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in the conference championship. Right,
Yeah, that's well said, and you

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know, you look at it,
and I keep hearing people say, well,

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talent wise, Alabama was one of
the four best teams. Vegas probably

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thinks so too, But of the
sample size we have, Alabama lost their

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two biggest games, and you know, TCU dominated Texas compared to Alabama,

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who's quick buy. So I mean
you could you could say, sure,

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I think you could say Riley that
Alabama on papers one of the four best

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teams, but when they had a
chance to prove it, they didn't.

406
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:06,160
Yeah, you know, and I
think that that has to account for something,

407
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:09,599
especially considering the teams that they lost
to. I mean, Tennessee was

408
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:13,679
a really great team all season long, but then obviously they go and just

409
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,079
get drugged by South Carolina. That
kind of ended their season, and LSU

410
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:22,559
looked like they were possibly gonna make
a run at the SEC championship and then

411
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:25,320
they get beat handily by Texas A
and M in the last week and then

412
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,239
they just get run over in the
SEC title game and saw it. I

413
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,960
mean, while Alabama still has the
best players, and frankly, let's just

414
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:37,400
hypothetically say they were in like I
really could see a world where they win

415
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,719
the national championship, Like that's that's
kind of the world we're living with Alabama.

416
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:49,079
But I think leaving them out was
the right move. And I'm really

417
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:53,000
glad that they didn't just get the
well their Obama treatment and get one of

418
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:55,519
those spots, because I don't think
that would have been right. Yeah.

419
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,480
And uh, this TCU team I
saw last year with Georgia that they lost

420
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:07,039
the SEC tattle game, bounce back
and put two incredible performances in the playoff.

421
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:12,199
Do you think TCU is capable of
responding well to this loss that they

422
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,519
suffered a case stay here in these
playoff games or you think they're gonna be

423
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:21,039
overmatched by a Michigan team or facing
potentially Georgia Ohio State in the championship.

424
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,719
Um, I think that's kind of
tough. I think, first off,

425
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,239
like we have to find out like
how they're gonna respond. Obviously, this

426
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,679
is a team that hasn't lost a
game all season, Like I was saying,

427
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,559
they were a team that always battled
back and always found a way to

428
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:37,559
win. So we don't know what
this team does after they lose a game.

429
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,519
So that's that's really big. But
also on the other hand, on

430
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,480
the other side of things, like
I think Michigan's a really really great team

431
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,079
full of a lot of great talent, probably better talent than TCU has.

432
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:55,199
And so if they struggle and if
they get if they get throttled by Michigan,

433
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,639
like is it because they lost and
they got thrown off their their path

434
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,440
or whereas it because Michigan is just
that much better? Like, I think

435
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,519
it's kind of a tough a tough
question to answer one side or the other,

436
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:08,920
because I really could make a case
for both. I think I would

437
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,519
still pick Michigan in this game.
I think what they did to Ohio State

438
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:19,119
kind of shows the elite talent that
they have, but I don't think they

439
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:22,280
mean that. It would probably be
a mental aspect of losing a case State

440
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,760
because this is a really good team
that had a great season and frankly was

441
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,280
one inch away from winning the Big
dual championship, right yeah, and a

442
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,760
team they already beat earlier in the
season on top of that as well.

443
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,440
So Riley with that, looking at
the College Football Playoff, of the four

444
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:45,559
teams that are in, what do
you make of these semifinal matchups here?

445
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:50,000
What stands out to you in these
two games? I mean, the biggest

446
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,880
storyline is going to be defense in
the College Football Playoff. That's that's what

447
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,000
it's going to come down to.
Ohio State. Sure they have the explosive

448
00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:59,719
offense and it's it's a lot of
fun to watch them go, but can

449
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,920
they do it against Georgia. They
couldn't do it against Michigan. And I

450
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,320
think Georgia has a better defense than
Michigan, and so you know, how's

451
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,320
that going to shake out? And
then I think that the TCU Michigan Michigan

452
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:16,000
game is completely about defense. This
is two defensive minded teams also to run,

453
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:20,199
two teams that focus on the running
game. If you're a better I

454
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,280
would probably lean to the under in
that game. Because it's going to be

455
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,960
a lot of defense and a lot
of running the ball, so that clock

456
00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:31,639
is probably going to be ticking very
fast. Um it's it's more intriguing than

457
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,119
what we've had recently, like last
year with Alabama and Cincinnati. Yes,

458
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:38,639
Cincinnati was the feel good story,
but they were never gonna they were never

459
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:42,719
gonna beat Alabama, they were never
gonna make a run. I really could

460
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,480
see a world and where probably three
of these teams win the playoffs. I

461
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:52,360
don't think TCU can win the playoffs. Like it's a great story. I'm

462
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,280
kind of pulling for him as a
big twelve guy, but I just don't

463
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,519
think that they have what it takes
to win two games here in this playoff.

464
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,280
Obviously you would favor Georgia. I
think Georgia's the the cream of the

465
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,360
crop of this playoff. But I
don't think that this People just think this

466
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,480
is the same Georgia from last season. It is not like, yes,

467
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:14,519
it's a great defense, but it's
not anywhere near what they had last season.

468
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:16,679
Like it's just they do not have
the I think it was four first

469
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,880
rounded NFL draft picks last year.
They don't have that on this defense.

470
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:27,199
So they're very successfulal to be being
beaten in this in the semi final game,

471
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,239
I think, or even in the
championship game. So the thing with

472
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,320
Ohio State is that while they obviously
struggle to put a good defense on the

473
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,239
field, you saw Michigan just pick
them apart. Even without Blake Koram,

474
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:44,159
Ohio State can get you into a
running gun, shootout type of game.

475
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,599
And so it'll be very interesting to
see which side kind of comes in stronger

476
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:52,320
there. Yeah, for sure,
it's gonna be very interesting. And you

477
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,840
mentioned, you know, Georgia great
team, not as good as they were

478
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:00,480
last year, but with them in
Michigan balls, we've seen them play close

479
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:05,480
at times. I think about that
that Michigan Illinois game for example, the

480
00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:08,159
week before the Ohio State game,
where that game was probably closer than it

481
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:12,639
should have been. Or Georgia against
Missouri, or some of these teams.

482
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:15,239
I mean, just in human nature, you can't play your best every single

483
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,559
week. But the difference I look
at in this playoff Riley, if those

484
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,639
if Georgia plays let's say like they
did against Missouri, or if Michigan plays

485
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,559
like they did against Illinois, that's
not good enough. You're you're gonna lose

486
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:31,199
here. I mean these teams,
yes, they are better, I think

487
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:36,960
than their opponents, but I mean, you can't win with a C plus

488
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:40,559
performance here, correct, And I
think that that's I think I don't really

489
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:45,199
fear that with this Georgia team because
while they had a lot of performances like

490
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,440
that at times, you know,
Kirby Smarts an excellent coach, and and

491
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:52,960
they have the edge here that these
other teams don't have. They know what

492
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:57,320
it takes to win two games.
And when the National Championship obviously, the

493
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,440
House State's been here before, a
little bit different situation considering um, you

494
00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:06,079
know, kind of the overturn of
players and coaches and everything like that.

495
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,480
But Georgia literally just did this last
year, and they did it. Frankly,

496
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:15,159
I think Georgia beating Alabama last season
is more impressive than Georgia beating any

497
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,519
team in this year's field for the
National Championship. And so they know what

498
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:22,480
it takes, they know how hard
it is, um and and that's kind

499
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,880
of why they have that edge.
So you definitely could get a performance like

500
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:30,960
you were mentioning, those those kind
of letdown games. But I think that

501
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:34,119
Kirby smart will have his guys ready, They'll have his guys focused, and

502
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,760
they know, like when the when
the lights come on, when it's a

503
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,880
big game, they really need to
step up to the occasion. Here,

504
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:45,039
let's let's shift gears and moved to
the transfer portal now, Riley, I'm

505
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:51,480
on on free every day, Uh, checking this out. And you know,

506
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,519
I know you've you've covered recruiting for
a long time and this is just

507
00:40:55,679 --> 00:41:00,599
bunkers. This takes. This is
recruiting nothing compared to what we're seeing right

508
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:05,599
now. I mean just every day
something's going on. Uh. You know,

509
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:07,840
very good players entering the portal.
Used to be in the past,

510
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,079
if you transferred, you know,
there was probably a coaching change or you

511
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:16,360
were a backup, you weren't getting
enough playing time. Now we're seeing quality

512
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:22,199
starters on good teams enter the portal
here. I mean, these are chaotic

513
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,320
times that we've never seen in this
sport before. Yeah, and it's it's

514
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,480
not a hand I mean, it
really is. And I know that it's

515
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,760
it's good for kids, I get
it, But I mean we're the portal

516
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,760
has been open since Monday and we're
at over a thousand kids in it already.

517
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:42,039
I mean, it's just crazy what
we're looking at here in terms of

518
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:44,920
kids just popping in the portal every
day. Like I literally, as we

519
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,880
record this, I have a I
have a column on my tweet deck just

520
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,400
with transfer portal, and there's kids
popping into it every every ten minutes.

521
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,760
It feels like, um, look, I mean we've been having this conversation,

522
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,800
you and me and other radio shows
that go on, whatever is the

523
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,559
transfer portal good for college athletics?
Like, and I give you the same

524
00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:08,840
answer every time. It's good if
it's used the right way. It's good

525
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:15,719
that kids have the opportunity to perhaps
step down a level if they maybe kind

526
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,239
of overshot their skis a little bit
going into the Power five level out of

527
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,639
high school. But for the most
part, man, this is just it's

528
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,719
crazy to try and see a home
for every single kid, and that's what

529
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,280
every single kid get thinks they're gonna
get. There's plenty of guys that will

530
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,079
go from Power five to Power five. There's plenty of guys that'll find a

531
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,119
maybe a slightly lower level Division one
home. But there's also a lot of

532
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:44,800
guys, you know, two star
lineman, three star cornerbacks that they'll be

533
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,920
at a KSE State or a KU
or a Texas Tech and they'll transfer and

534
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,400
they'll have nowhere to go and they'll
end up at you know, Utah Valley

535
00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:54,880
or something like that, and just
to pick in a random school out of

536
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,360
the hat there, and it's just
it's tough because there's really no way that

537
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,920
you can kind of corral it.
There's no way that you can straighten it

538
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,960
out. I do not envy being
a college coach right now having to deal

539
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:12,639
with preparing for games, recruiting high
school kids and oh yeah, you have

540
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,000
to rerecruit your entire team while also
managing your roster and going into the portal

541
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:21,400
to find needs that that's your team
needs going in the next season. So

542
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,119
college coaches get paid an insane amount
of money and it still doesn't feel like

543
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,639
enough with all the hoops they got
to jump through in this process. Well,

544
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,519
and with this year's rules. Grec
if I'm wrong here, but I

545
00:43:32,679 --> 00:43:37,440
believe no matter what whatever it takes
to get there, you're allowed to add.

546
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:40,880
You know, you go up to
eighty five scholarship players to bring in

547
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:46,199
this year through recruiting or through the
portal. Either way to get to that

548
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:51,639
that even number. And so with
that's said, with knowing you can completely

549
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,519
flip your roster this year, I
mean, the pressure should be as high

550
00:43:55,519 --> 00:44:00,119
as ever on these coaches, Riley, because you can, you should be

551
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:06,079
able to rebuild pretty fast. There's
no excuse not to find the players you

552
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:09,559
need here pretty quickly. Yeah,
I mean, it's it's definitely a great

553
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:13,400
tool for that. I mean,
I let's look at Case State again just

554
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,039
because it's one that we kind of
know very well. While Will Howard was

555
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:20,119
kind of the guy that led them
to the Big Twelve championship down the end

556
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:23,320
of the season, they're not in
that position without Adrian Martinez and getting him

557
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,880
out of Nebraska. Now, Adrian
didn't end up being exactly what a lot

558
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,519
of people thought he was going to
be or what he looked like he was

559
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:32,440
gonna be at the start of the
season. Like he he definitely did not

560
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,800
meet expectation in terms of the passing
game. But he put them in that

561
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,960
position by you know, giving him
some some solid non con wins early,

562
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:47,039
going down to Oklahoma and putting on
an amazing performance. So you can easily

563
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:53,159
fill holes that you need right away
and it's it's great for schools, especially

564
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,519
with new coaches. I think of
Matt Rule at Nebraska now, who he's

565
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:00,559
going into a situation where he has
to rebuild, but he's not gonna get

566
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:04,119
four to five years to rebuild it. They're gonna want to see results,

567
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:06,639
and they're gonna want to see him
right away, So he's gonna have to

568
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,719
attack the portal. He's gonna have
to get some really talented players out of

569
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,719
that and give him a new spark. So I think that that's huge for

570
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,000
a guy like him. Heck,
we've seen it with k State basketball too,

571
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:21,119
and not just football it. Jerome
Tang has a very competitive seven and

572
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:23,079
one or eight and one team right
now, and it's mainly portal guys.

573
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:29,440
So for every one situation where we
can criticize the transfer portal and say it's

574
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,039
it's not good and kids are taking
advantage of it in the wrong way,

575
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:36,880
there's there's a lot of good that
it does bring. So that's why it's

576
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,400
kind of one of those situations where
you're gonna go back and forth. You're

577
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:45,000
never really gonna have a strong opinion
one way or the other that holds holds

578
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,760
to be more true it just comes
down to how much you're willing to tolerate.

579
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,280
I guess of the portal getting bigger
and bigger. Some big schools,

580
00:45:54,480 --> 00:46:00,079
uh, some power programs have taken
some hits negatively from the portal so far.

581
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:05,760
Obviously they can potentially rebound and replace
them with other guys, but for

582
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,960
me so far, Riley Oklahoma State, Texas saying him and Alabama, I

583
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:13,800
mean, the hits just keep on
common. They're losing some quality starters those

584
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:19,000
schools. Well, yeah, I
think the interesting one was Spencer Sanders leaving

585
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:22,639
Oklahoma State. That was one that
I don't want to say it was completely

586
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,440
unpredictable because it definitely makes sense that
he I mean, he's just been dinged

587
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,760
up and he's kind of been struggling
as of late a little bit, but

588
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,920
he kind of seemed like an Oklahoma
State lifer, and Mike Ndy doesn't really

589
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,519
feel like a guy that's gonna lose
a starting quarterback to the portal, especially

590
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:42,920
when it doesn't really it's not like
they have this this star waiting in the

591
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,119
wings, so to speak. So
that that one definitely caught me off guard

592
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:49,320
a little bit. And yeah,
you know, I just think that There's

593
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,400
been some some very big names that
hit the portal, guys that, honestly,

594
00:46:54,559 --> 00:46:58,039
two months ago you probably would have
never seen it go that way.

595
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:01,880
Heck, for until tonight, Drake
May at North Carolina was rumored to be

596
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:07,440
one of the biggest guys possibly going
in. Now he has since come out

597
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,239
and said he's not entering the portal. But it just kind of goes to

598
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,840
show you, like, how how
uncertain this is right now with all the

599
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,559
coaching changes happening, and oh,
I want to go play for my old

600
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:21,039
coach here at his new school,
so I'm gonna hit the portal even though

601
00:47:21,159 --> 00:47:27,000
I have a really good situation here. And it's also getting to the point

602
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:30,559
where guys are transferring in conference,
which is absolutely wild to see because they

603
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:35,519
could be playing for Oklahoma one season
and then be playing for West Virginia the

604
00:47:35,639 --> 00:47:37,559
next season. It's kind of crazy. Speaking of West Virginia, like JT

605
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,079
Daniels, he's off to play for
his fourth school in five years. I

606
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:45,719
think, like that's just crazy.
I mean, he's Ryan Fitzpatrick college football,

607
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:51,119
the first journeyman of the sport,
and we're gonna tell our grandkids of

608
00:47:51,159 --> 00:47:53,159
all the schools that J. C. Daniels played for so I'm interested to

609
00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:57,320
see where he ends up because I
think he really struggled this season at West

610
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,960
Virginia. But yeah, I mean
it's it's a mat house. That's just

611
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:02,920
kind of all I can say about
it. And um, until that window

612
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,039
closes, it's not gonna calm down
anytime soon. That's uh, that's something

613
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:12,800
else with those guys, uh going
in and we mentioned, you know,

614
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,039
just how much you can flip a
roster here. Uh, you know,

615
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:20,639
I go back to what Dion Sanders
his uh, his speech to his team

616
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:22,559
a couple of days ago. I
think they got kind of taken out of

617
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:25,760
context a bit, uh, you
know what what he was saying. But

618
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,239
at the end of the day,
you know the message that I think he

619
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,719
was trying to deliver, and that
really I think resonates around the rest of

620
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,000
college football generally. You better just
be ready to compete if if you're gonna

621
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:43,639
stay, I mean, you better
build the work hard otherwise they can replace

622
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,880
you pretty fast. I think that's
what he was trying to say. And

623
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,679
that's what's gonna go on in Colorado
really everywhere. Yeah. Well, and

624
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,039
it's it's because it's Dion, and
it's because he's non giving people a fair

625
00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:58,960
chance quote unquote. That's kind of
what everybody thinks, and I get it.

626
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,079
I understand kind of a little bit
of the complaints, but let's be

627
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:07,440
real, that's that's why Dion's had
successes because he's not afraid to tell people

628
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,400
they're not good enough. He's not
afraid to kind of put them in their

629
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,039
place, and he knows that.
Look, there's a reason that Colorado fired

630
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:17,960
Carl Doyle after just two seasons,
like he doesn't have talented players on that

631
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,239
team. So I had and then
a video did come out today like he

632
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,239
was talking to his team a little
more privately and he's like, you guys

633
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:30,599
are competitors, like you'll you're going
to compete for spots. You're not Twitters

634
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,239
things like that. So it definitely
got taken out of context. But that's

635
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,639
just kind of the Internet world we
live in now, where we love to

636
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:43,239
jump to a conclusion and let a
video go viral on Twitter. But that's

637
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,000
another instance where I think we're about
to see crazy turnaround, and probably very

638
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:51,840
fast thanks to both recruiting and the
portal. Everybody wants to go play for

639
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,760
coach prime and now you can do
it at the power five level. It's

640
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,239
crazy. Yeah, yeah, certainly
is. I know we'll have a little

641
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,519
bit of tout left. I ask
you, what are the top layers you're

642
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:06,440
you like so far that are in
the portal and what are some possible destinations

643
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,079
for some of these guys? You
think, Oh, man, that's a

644
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:14,519
that's a really good question. I
do think that. Uh. I mean,

645
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:16,400
I mentioned J. C. Daniels
just because he's the one that's kind

646
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,000
of sticking out on the top of
my head right now. He's he's obviously

647
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:23,440
one of the most popular guys right
now in terms of where he's gonna land.

648
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:28,920
That's really intriguing to me because you
know, he's kind of been in

649
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:31,199
in all the all the various conferences
so far, and he's got a little

650
00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:36,760
bit taste everything. But he he
got benched at West Virginia late in this

651
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,519
season, so I'm not really sure
that he's gonna be a hot commodity right

652
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:44,320
now. Um. So to speak
like, I just don't think that a

653
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,159
bunch of people are gonna be falling
over their head over heels for to go

654
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,880
and land him. So, um, I think it'll be interesting to see

655
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,599
where he lands, but probably not
a move that's going to exactly light up

656
00:50:55,679 --> 00:51:00,079
college football. It's not really gonna
draw bunch of headlines. I guess where

657
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:06,280
he ends up. There was one
tonight Mississippi State had a running back,

658
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,360
Dylan Johnson, and the portal is
very funny that he he called out Mike

659
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,360
Leach as he was going. He
says, Mike Leaches is happy that I'm

660
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,119
in the transfer portals. Now,
everybody's kind of interesting where he lands.

661
00:51:17,159 --> 00:51:21,360
But the biggest one right now,
did it did come out today? Um

662
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,800
Storm Ducks leaving North Carolina the cornerback
m just as he's a solid player,

663
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,960
m you know, and he's he's
pretty well known in the ACC. He's

664
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,199
probably gonna be one of those guys
that that ends up getting a lot of

665
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,360
big offers. Um. So it'll
be kind of fun to follow which which

666
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,800
school is jumping on him. And
and there's even been some lower level guys

667
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,079
d two guys that are are drawn
the eyes of Power five teams everywhere.

668
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:51,679
So it's just as crazy as to
watch how many are jumping into the portal,

669
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,920
it's equally as crazy to watch who's
recruiting them out of the portal and

670
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,000
where they might end up well.
And I mean, I look at it

671
00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:02,079
this one, Riley, it's go
eat or get eaten. You know what

672
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:06,599
I mean. Like if if you're
going to be successful in today's college football,

673
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,119
you gotta embrace this thing. You
gotta go get the best players you

674
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:15,199
can. And uh, you know
it can't be something where you're not interested

675
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,239
in try to focus on the traditional
high school recruiting route. I mean,

676
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,519
because you're gonna fall behind pretty fast. And we saw Texas A and M.

677
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,480
They brought in an old time high
school recruiting class and how many those

678
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:30,480
guys are going and it did not
work at all. And so it just

679
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:34,199
goes to show you that maybe sometimes
the people on paper are not exactly the

680
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,280
ones that translate to success right away. Yeah right, I know you gotta

681
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,480
run telp it where they can find
you. Check out all the stuff on

682
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,239
on three. I believe that there's
a big deal going on in there for

683
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,960
sign up, so people can check
out with with on three. Great time

684
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,760
to sign up, I met.
Yeah, man, it's uh, we're

685
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,480
always turning out in terms of the
national team, We're always turning out content

686
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,119
left and right. I mean,
it's just kind of crazy how fast our

687
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:02,880
writers go um and us in the
editorial room are kind of trying to keep

688
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,079
up. So the national team's always
pumping out great stuff. Um. And

689
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:13,239
then if you're a fan of a
specific team, there's there's a specific offers

690
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,719
for your team on all the various
sites. Uh. It does very um

691
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,320
but depending which one you're looking at. There was a one dollar for a

692
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,480
year right now it's ten dollars um
until the start of football season. So

693
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:28,960
if you're looking for looking for your
team on on three, we can definitely

694
00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:30,400
get you set up there and it's
not going to cost you a lot of

695
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:35,880
money to stay locked in on on
recruiting transfer portal. Nil. It's a

696
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:38,599
it's a great site that we got
going and really excited about the product that

697
00:53:38,679 --> 00:53:43,239
we're continuing to build. And it's
clean to read. It's not messy like

698
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,519
some of those others. You know, it's very all right there. I

699
00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:49,199
love the layout, it's great content. Riley and Company doing a great job.

700
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,320
Riley, thanks you the tot man. I know that you're gonna be

701
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,000
busy here a couple of days.
Uh, we'll talk to get down the

702
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,960
line. Brit sh joins absolutely
