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Mmm, hello everyone, welcome to
the Giant Bomb Cast. Here we are

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the Los Angeles Podcast Festival. My
name is Jeff Gerstman. How you guys

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doing tonight? Yeah, alright cool. I am joined by Brad Shoemaker,

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whoa hey, Hi, what's something? Hey? Hello? Hi, he's

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following the hell over. Vinny Caravella
is here. Hello, Hello, Hello,

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fresh in from New York. That's
right. How's that East Coast time

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treating you? It's fine? East
Coast time is the best coast time,

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the East Coast time. It's bagel
times. Even rhyme, it's rhyme time.

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Okay, all right, Jersey,
okay, Dan record is here.

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Now let's talk about these beers.
You just got here. Uh you walked

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up the street. Yep. You
wonder if it's garden or who garden?

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Business on here? There? Hello? Yeah, I'm not used to holding

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a microphone. There's usually a thing
on my head or I talked into it

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and lean into it. I have
to hold this, but I don't even

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know what you're talking about. This
is I was not prepared for the use.

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I have to hold this right here, that's in your head or whatever,

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like, let's talk about this is
hoe Garden. Okay, Uh,

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some say who Garden? What is
the correct thing? It's who Garden.

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Whatever it is, it's it's good. It's my favorite beer, I think,

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and you don't even know how it's
pronounced. It's your favorite, you

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think when you say Hoe Garden or
who Garden, a bartender's not gonna be

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like, oh, did you say
bud light like you're gonna get the right

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thing? Are you sure? I'm
because bud Light's not bad. I've drank

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a lot of bud light in my
life. Okay, pretty good. Yeah,

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no, I mean it's no course
light, but hey, what are

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you gonna do? So we're here, it's, uh, we're at this

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weird time of the year for video
games where you know, like we're in

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this transition period where like games have
started coming out at this like rocket pace,

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with the exception of last week where
there was just suddenly nothing except except

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Destiny. What is that? Yeah, that's I'm not sure I'm talking about

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video games here. And so we're
at this point where we've played some heavy

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hitters, most of the year is
over, and then we're getting into the

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holiday season where it starts to get
really crazy. So it's that point where

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you know, as we start thinking
about like oh, we have to like

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produce like Game of the Year awards
and that sort of stuff, it's this

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feeling of like, Okay, there's
some stuff I missed along the way that

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I needed to get back into,
and then on top of that, there's

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still some stuff coming out. Like
I know, for me, I think

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when I look at like the rest
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think it's just COST three is the
thing that stands out. Are you gonna

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Fallout? Guy? All? Yeah, yeah, fall fall Out. I've

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definitely enjoyed Fallout, but for whatever
reason, like despite enjoying it at E

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three, there's like this weird block
in my head where I just don't recognize

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that game actually exists and is really
coming out. So like, for whatever

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reason, it's not like on my
radar. Is that because it was announced

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so recently? Maybe maybe, but
there's like, yeah, that's like I'm

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sure Fallout four will be great.
Uh, it looks like it's it will

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be another Fallout game, right.
That's kind of what public opinion seems to

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be. Yeah, I don't think
there's anything wrong with that. That's weird.

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The consensus is weirdly turned towards this
like tepid expectation of like, yeah,

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it'll be more Fallout, that'll be
fine. Yeah. It seems like

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one of those things that it could
come in and you could be like,

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oh, I'm totally blown away by
this because it's like this one hundred hour

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game and whatever whatever. But I
think a lot of it seems like a

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known quantity, whereas like just cost
three. Well, I've played enough of

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it to like have a known quantity
feeling of it. It's like I know

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that like fucking shit up in that
game is pretty fun. Statues slap themselves

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in the face exactly. Yeah,
So for me, it's just caused three

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do you have like because they're like
a game the rest of the year where

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you're like, okay, this is
the thing. There's also well there's hit

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Man, okay, and that's what
is that though. It's a game where

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you're an assassin ball it's weird.
Yeah, he's got a shaved head,

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which I think is really cool code
on there. No, I don't think

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it's ok it's it's really cool.
You don't know his backstory, Okay,

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he might have had hair's youth and
Okay, all I know is there was

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that one hit Man game where like
you hit, you pick up the bomb,

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you hit fucking guy? Whether you
hit a man literally with a with

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a smoking apparatus, oh okay,
his tobacco pipe, yes, his water

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pipe? Yeah, okay. You
find a water pipe and you you hit

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someone with it, and I just
I can only hope they can escalate.

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It's baked brigs, just like you
find a vape break and just like I

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don't know, can you sear someone
with it? Can you heat him up?

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The dual coils on my rig.
I got the voltage down to one

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home and like I burned the guy
with it, Like can you do that?

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Yeah, it's it's like the vape
expert now out from the East coast.

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That's right. Uh, you can
tell me everything you know about okay,

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So what kind of coils you rocking? No? No, I don't

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duel coil. That's good, that's
good. I have no idea, all

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right, I have a phantom cigar
and I use my watch to light it

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fair enough. I don't know.
Hit Man looks like uh, you know,

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it looks like more hit Man.
It looks like more uh the Clockwork

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World, except for the part where
it's like free to play ish and they

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said they're not shipping the whole game
at the beginning. I can't. It'll

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come out in December with like not
all the environments in it, and it'll

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like they'll put it out or whatever
and you get it and and can play

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the missions in there. So it
seems like it's a little more free form

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where they'll be like bolting things into
it over the months. I don't know

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anyone here big on Absolution because I
loved Blood Money and I was excited about

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Absolution, but I never really get
the whole thing. That was the one

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with the bong, right, was
it the last one? I think,

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yeah, all right, but I
think that it's not really all right.

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I'm gonna say, like I have
never liked the hit Man game. Okay,

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blood Money is the only one I
pod enough to beat. Blood Money,

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Yeah, that first one on three
sixty because the visuals are really good

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and it was early en appen the
console's life cycle that it was super impressive,

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and the gameplay was also pretty good. That's the only one I beat

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though. Alright, So back to
my question, I would be finding some

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time to think here, like like
what's like when you look at the rest

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of the year when you think about
the rest of the year, trying to

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think what else is happening. Assassin's
oh right, they are doing another one

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of those, aren't they the last
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little twinge of hope there for Assassin. There's Call of Duty black right,

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they are doing another set your watch
by it? Yeah? Uh yeah,

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there's stuff Halo, there's Halo okay, yeah, tomb Rat right, that

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is this year? Yeah? Yeah, okay, this dude, No,

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you don't augment your pre order until
February or twenty sixteen, come on,

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very nice. I feel like there
was something else towards middle December, and

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now I can't remember what Siege,
right, that's early, which seems neat

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but not like totally not Did that
thing come from Patriots or was that a

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totally different thing? Like is that
the same team or a lot of them

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got laid off? Right, I
don't know. Yeah, I'm not actually

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sure scrapped the real lineages is to
that thing. But yeah, it seems

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like there's some some stuff coming out
this year. Yeah, here and there.

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Yeah, October seems kind of dry. Yeah, and then I feel

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like, you know, there's been
some like fucking bangers out already. Were

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you're just like, all right,
this is this We're getting into serious video

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game time. But it's been a
long year and there's some stuff that like

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we feel like, you know,
probably have to catch up on before we

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start giving awards to games. And
for me, like, I'm like there's

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a part of me that like now
that I'm like done with Metal Gear and

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I played just enough Destiny to know
that I'm pretty much done with Destiny real

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man. It's it's now It's like, okay, I'm gonna probably play the

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Witcher. Oh sure, but like
this year, this year is gonna be

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so I for Game of the Year
stuff, I always hate the part where

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you're deciding, like you're it always
is like the top three and then like

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the bottom through like ten nine and
eight, that's what comes right, ten

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nine and eight h and then the
middle chunk always seems to kind of fall

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into place, and then you're kind
of like, okay, I want this

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on the list, so we have
here's the games we want. We don't

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really care where they are. Yeah, So, like I really I hate

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when it comes down to like tearing
down a game or something to get another

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game moved up and like imagine trying
to compare metal Gear and Mario Maker.

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I was like, okay, which
one's better? Metal Gear? Yeah,

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okay, yeah, it's that's an
easy let's talk about the mechanics of it.

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But Mario Makers are like amazing,
That's what I'm saying. Yeah,

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I would be making levels for that
right now if I wasn't here. That

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was how I spent like last weekend, was just like I'm just gonna sit

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here in my underwear and plot out
Mario levels my life. Well yeah that's

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but now it's a video game,
then let's do it and share those levels

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with other people. It's commercials in
raft paper. Yeah, Mario sold out.

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It was pure before we're just like
okay, I just need to all

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right, Then there would if there
was a turtle and it was a red

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no no, just like on my
basement wall with chalk, just like right,

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yeah, when they when they find
the bodies, they'll be like what

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was he doing? What does it
all mean? Justformed into goombas worked?

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It would have worked. I trust
me, it would have worked. I

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noticed the bushes. I have a
face on them. Yeah, right exactly,

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that's m I uh can I tell
you a story about my basement.

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Let's all right, Yeah, okay, let's have a we have a viny

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caravella house check. Do we have
the house check music? No, we

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don't know no house check music.
There is no house so holy cow.

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All right, So you live in
New Jersey. Do we have basements?

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Right? Okay, there are basements
on so on the East coast there are

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basements. I didn't know that.
It's it's like a hole in the ground

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where it's like a hole where your
house poops. Right, So I I

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have a crawl space for that,
so it can't fit enough. Right,

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So Jersey East CoA, it's like
it's a real good We need a lot

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of fighters waste and yeah, I
mean family style out there, that's right,

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a lot of Italians. So yeah, all the ship that comes into

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your house winds up in a basement
eventually. Uh and uh, something happened

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in a house like low water pressure
or something. I was in it.

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But my basement's not finished. But
I have like a chair down there,

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or like a concrete dungeon where I
have a TV like extension cords from like

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a kill room that you just go
like you go down there to play video

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games. I mean that's what the
police call it. But like I still

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tell my basement whatever. Uh and
if some I'm down there and I'm looking

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around and I've got like, uh
like flashlight and I stop. And I'm

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not really a religious man, but
like I stopped. Something stopped me a

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force something, and uh, there
there are moments in the ghost story.

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I'm gonna put this microphone down because
that's so. There are moments in your

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life that you can never like do
you hit these moments that like you like

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ever like cut your finger and you
don't want to look at it, and

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you're like this could be bad,
that this is gonna like I need to

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this is gonna change. It seems
you look at it, it's real and

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to deal with it. But I
see like some sparkles in the air,

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right, and I go and I
turn the lights on and it's a web

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strung across wall to wall with rain
drops in it. Right, I'm like,

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well that's really weird. But then
the rain drops, the tiny rain

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drops start moving and crawling across the
wet hundreds of baby spiders and I always

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walked through it, and uh and
the house is forfeit. I burned it

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to the ground. Yeah, no, that is yeah, that is the

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I said we should probably go back
to California. Like yeah at this point

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though, I mean, I like, I have some bad news for you

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about California. So I've been,
you know, walking around the neighborhood,

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you know, just going out,
you know, do some night walking.

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Okay, you know, like you
do. Yes, do you have like

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one of those like little headlamp or
something. No? Fuck no, okay,

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if I get run over, it
is what it is. But it's

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getting run over, that's what it
is. Yeah, okay, sure,

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uh there is. So I live, you know, suburbs like whatever.

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There's a there's an airport pretty close
by, like a tiny little airports,

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but there's a big field all the
way around it, and there's some housing

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developments that back up to the field
and you can walk along. It's like

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it's actually like if it's so nice, like if you had to walk outside

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and look at some stuff, you'd
be like, it's nice. Okay.

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Is a night right, fucking okay? Looks better than oh yeah, okay,

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but dusk, let's call it dusk. You can sort of see a

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nice sunset, yeah, okay,
some nice sunsets out there. So I'm

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walking on this sidewalk. It's a
nice new sidewalk. No one never walks

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on it because where you're gonna go
it's just more fucking houses. It's just

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more suburban tract homes and bullshit like
who cares, but it's there's this.

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So I'm walking on the left,
is this huge field. On the right

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homes including mine somewhere out there,
homes. And every time I look down,

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I just see more tiny spiders going
from the field towards the homes.

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You can see him, Oh yeah, oh wow, hundreds of them.

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Yeah. How tiny are we talking? Like? You know, like you

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know, smaller than a like way
smaller than a bottle cap. Tiny little

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things, tiny little things, not
microscopic. Like I'm standing up looking down

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seeing them. You can spot them
on the ground from six at dusk.

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I got it. I can see
these motherfucking spiders. Okay, I go

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on, you know, like once
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a walk, like a Weekend's like, yeah, you wanna go for walking?

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Yeah, sure, let's go.
Let's go around see the neighborhood.

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Fucking hunt rids of spiders are coming
towards our homes where they're coming from the

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fields. Man going the other way. No, no one's going They're not

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going back to the field. They're
not like, oh, this is a

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bust. They're like, fucking there's
ship to bite this way. If we

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go this way, there's like there, we can put a roof over our

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head the ship. The fuck up. They're coming out of the field in

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droves. You're saying it's coast to
coast. There's an invasion. There is

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a spider invasion, and it's like, you know, it's like we're in

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la so you know, like you
know, you understand the concept of there

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being no fucking water. Uh,
my cat has fleas because there's not enough

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rain to kill the fleas, so
the fleas last through a season and become

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resistant to more shit. You've looked
this up. This is yeah. No,

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like the flea medication, the initial
stuff didn't work. We had to

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get different flee medication. Prescription strength, Okay, flee medication. It's just

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gonna be like a spider that followed
the swallowed the fleet. Like do you

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wind up getting something swallow the spider
to swallow the cat. I mean that's

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probably because I don't think probably how
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eat the cat. You're probably right, there's probably no other way for this

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to go, right right, uh
yeah, And it's yeah, between the

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drought not killing off the tiny thing, it's probably probably I don't know,

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hundreds of spiders. Well I didn't
know what so, like I didn't know

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what to do. This is in
my house, right, yeah, that's

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that's a different story. Like I
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well, there's a good chance they
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Sucks for someone. Yeah, uh
but like yeah, like I had this

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moment of just like looking at staring
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to do something like this isn't like
wake me up, Like what's going on?

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Like if you can't like turn around, go well never going in that

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room again, off and just go
let's go get some brick and some mortar

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and fucking just boat on what basement? No that's no, we have a

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cross space but no, no,
no, no no no. And like

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you know, I'm a father and
a husband. So I did the responsible

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thing and totally was like, honey, you need to deal with this.

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Smart. Smart. I I got
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on, So like, can't,
I can't my hands. You have a

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schedule that you have to keep this, and I was like, there might

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be more eggs back that you should
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Yeah, I'm gonna go to La
good call. It's gonna work out.

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Yeah, yeah, just get out
of town. I haven't heard from them

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in a while. Although, to
be fair, yesterday when we were standing

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out front of this hotel, there
were nine thousand giant cockroaches constantly as we

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were talking. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know if that's a citywide thing,

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but right in front of this is
a citywide thing. They're big.

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Yeah, what the fuck is happening? Really big? Like this are is

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this the end times? Are we
in the end times? The humidity?

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Okay, let's let's get these metal
gear spoilers out then, all right,

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so we don't have a lot of
time left. Let's talk about Big Boss,

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all right. So so what else? What else came out in twenty

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fifteen, I don't know. For
For for me, it's The Witcher,

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you know. For the I played
the initial bits of it and really didn't

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like the way it controlled and hearing
that they patched, you know, in

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some different movement options like maybe you
want to go back to it and now

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I'm finally kind of getting to a
point where all I'm going to have some

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time. Uh? And so how
much how much witching did you do?

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I know you witched through which Er
two quite a lot. I did.

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I really like that game. I
like the Witcher one. You read the

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books. I read some books.
Some of the books some of the deep

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lore like ten hours, fifteen hours, yeah, but like multiple in like

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kid years that's like one hundred and
fifty so it's like dog years. Uh,

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like I don't know three fights worth
of Like what are you doing down

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there? So what's the what's the
usual process like for you when you when

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you want to go play a game? Is there like a checklist? Is

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there like an all systems go?
Yes, it's like literally checking lights off

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and you're shutting off lights. Yeah, you know, Okay, we need

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to rub some whiskey on this kid's
gums. All right, now I can

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play. It's usually kids are in
bed. Lock it down, you know,

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like a big old like switch that
makes a sound that goes take the

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house down. Uh, And then
I you know, it's very clear communication.

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Brad I'm gonna be downstairs. Okay, I'm gonna be playing a game

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if I don't hear the kids.
Is that cool? Yes, that's cool.

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We're not gonna fight about this,
right because I'm gonna be witching.

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Uh yes, totally fine. Uh
So it's all about communication. Uh.

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And then you know it's like an
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games now feels like an eternity.
It's crazy. I've played like Metal Gear

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like for an hour and a half. Yeah, and it's just been I've

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been playing forever. This is crazy. And then it's like it's look at

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the clock and it's like you're two
hours in, but I got best prologue,

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Like that's incredible. Yeah. So
it's just it's I can get it.

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But it's like, you know,
it's one in the morning or you

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know, I's probably put the kids
in been earlier. It's like, you

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know, it's like eight thirty,
nine o'clock, so it's like nine to

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like ten thirty, and by that
point, I'm just like doing the like

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third person running into wall kind of
thing because I'm just nodding off as I'm

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trying to play. So that's what
happened to girl. Yeah, okay,

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so die to horrible death. Well
maybe I will, which for you,

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you, I mean, are you
gonna you did not finish The Witcher?

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Correct, I'm like fifty or sixty
hours in, and now that I'm pretty

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much done with Metal Gear, like
I don't have to worry about spoilers or

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anything when I get home. That's
my main focus is I think from what

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I've seen, I'm very very near
the end. So I think, you

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know, one night of like an
eight hour session, I'll be done or

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something. So yeah, I'm going
to finish that game before a Game of

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the Year talks, and like it'll
probably be top five for me. There's

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a lot of earlier year stuff that
you know, we don't talk about much,

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you know, because it was in
March or February, like blood March,

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yeah, right, March, Turn
of the Ago. But yeah,

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like blood Born. I loved blood
Born. That'll be in my top ten

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for sure, So yeah, it'll
be it'll be interesting. I always keep

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like a Google doc of every game
I've played that year, so come end

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of the year, I can be
like, oh, that's right, I

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loved Axiom Verge or whatever. Right, Yeah, I started building that list

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and it's like looked out what came
out of this year and I was like,

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oh, yeah that game was good. That game was good, this

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other game was good. But yeah, for me, it's been like the

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kind of double whammy of like Metal
Gear and Mario Makers. Like it's been

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a good chunk of time here.
Yes, those are like my two favorite

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series ever and for like Meddle Year
five arguably the best Metal Gear and then

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Mario Maker, like infinite awesome Mario
levels. I've been playing a lot of

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both those. Yeah, I don't
know, I haven't I haven't been able

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to play Mario Maker for like a
week. But my understanding is like it's

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not always awesome because it's just the
tools to find levels aren't great, so

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sometimes you just get in random levels. It's like this might be one that

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plays itself and we don't know,
just to sit there and find out or

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and when you look at the top
starred levels or whatever, like it's largely

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the auto playing levels, yeah,
or like we made Yeah, I love

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like cool the cool gimmicky stuff.
Yes, it's impressive, but sometimes I

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just want to play like real ass
Mario levels. So I think I'm gonna

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replay Super Mario Brothers too. I
might have said that on the Great not

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not the US version though. Oh
that's level. Like it's been a long

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time since I've played. I never
beat that one. It's it's it's fucking

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hard. It's a weird game.
It's really hard. Yeah. Yeah,

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So yeah, you talk about kind
of those games. Are you talking about

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Blood Born? They announced that that
DLC is coming out this year? How

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substantial is that? I haven't come
up on the said it was like they

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put out that trailer that was just
like you said, it was just like

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here's a bunch of old boss fights, like a lot of weapons and the

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old boss fights. Yeah, and
and I don't know, two deal season

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Yeah, I'm just pushing it.
Yeah, sure, what does that even

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mean? You know? Like two
Deal Season one? It's like to me,

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it's horse armor and a Snoop dog
Voice pack like one. I mean

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that would get me to come back
and bluff, you know, like if

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it was just like here's like the
horses look different and then Snoop Dogg is

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there just saying like you need to
get out by that out the way back

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away from these motherfuckers. Oh that's
some elder's horror dog Yeah yeah. Uh.

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Also, was that the most exciting
thing to come out of TS kind

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of yeah, kind of colored hard
drive covers for the PS four. Yeah,

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it's looking pretty good. Project crossed
his Own two it's persona yeah yeah,

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yeah, not coming out this year, like of course it's not.

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Yeah, yeah, delay that the
summer we had a trailer so school.

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Yeah, it seems like I guess
that's probably the reason why you don't announce

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that delay earlier. Is he just
like, well, let's get a trailer

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together, so when we say this, we can only say, yeah,

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but watch this. This is right. It's not coming out too. It

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looks great. Watch the trailer.
It's like it's gonna be forever before you

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get the playoffs and the trailers really
good. So yeah, I mean that's

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I guess technically an announcement. They
announced it like they actually announced like literal

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fucking horse armor for Metal Gear Solid
five. Wait, uh, like really,

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tuxedo for Snake and I got like
horse new Dehorse options and stuff like

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that. Isn't like snake Eater themed, Yeah, stuff like that. So

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it's like that's not that's not interesting
in anyway, Like if you're playing as

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a female online you can play as
the boss or whatever like that type of

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outfit. But yeah, all right, that's take it. They did show

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that like online extended playthrough thing,
which is cool, right, Yeah,

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that's that's not that's not Those mechanics
are not things I want to do.

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And it's like the concept of like
stealth games in a multiplayer setting I think

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is actually a really fucking hard thing
to pull off, definitely, because it's

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like AI follows rules like I'm gonna
walk in this circle until you choke me

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to death. Uh, and then
we have a human player that is like,

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no, I'm trying to do the
exact same thing you're doing. Like

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there's the merks for spy stuff and
like that. Uh you know. In

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splurself it was like Xbox Original Yeah
yeah, and that was really well liked.

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That actually kind of did that stuff
well because it gave the two sides

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like different abilities. It's like metal
Gear Online's class based. We have three

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different classes, so maybe that'll kind
of help with some of that stuff.

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But I just I don't like what
they've done with metal Gear and a competitive

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online setting in the past has just
been dumb. As much as I love

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metal Gear, like I was excited
about Subsistence Online and also Metal Year four

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Online, and both of them I
played for like a couple hours, and

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like, yeah, this isn't what
I really want out of Metal Gear necessarily,

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but I don't know, you know, five the mechanics are so good,

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like it feels so good that maybe
this could be better. I mean,

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yeah, I'm sure it'll be better
when you judge it against like those

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previous Metal Gear games. And you
know, they had that that Arcade Metal

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Gear multiplayer game in Japan that like
some people you know, seem to enjoy

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over there at least, so imagine
they're kind of building on that to a

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certain extent. But you know,
at some point, it just like,

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you know, this isn't like this
is a single player game, Like I

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know, you want to make a
multiplayer thing so you can try to sell

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stuff on top of it or whatever, but it just doesn't seem like the

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sort of thing that needs to be
in a game like that. So yeah,

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it's just hard to get excited.
So I don't don't know, Like,

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like TGS actually seems like it's kind
of a big bust, And I

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feel like we've said that for the
past couple of years. But like I

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remember a few months ago when we
talked about going to this one. I

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mean like maybe this will be the
one, but the last thing I want

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to do is like go to Tokyo
and go to TGS. And I just

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want to go to Tokyo and get
the company to pay for it. Yes,

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yes, like that's the yeah,
totally yeah. I mean I you

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know, uh, like going to
TGS is just the smoke screen cover for

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just like let's go buy really expensive
transformers. Yeah, holy count yeah we

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need they make transformers. I recently
went to my parents' basement, which is

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spider free and bro pack my giant
band of transformers, which is like about

406
00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:56.640
the size of this table, right, and I was like, awesome,

407
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:02.319
I'm gonna do. Let me get
these transformers. And of course I open

408
00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:06.000
it and they're all just broken the
ship because and I remember them being pristine,

409
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:07.640
right, and it's like, just
on the what the hell did you

410
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.519
do to my transformers? Like I
don't know your parents were secretly playing with

411
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:18.000
just like I'm gonna make them turn
into the gun and uh and then like

412
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.279
you know, transformed them like five
times and put them on a little row

413
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.200
and then like d okay, and
I was like, I'm gonna I am

414
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:29.599
an adult. I wonder if they
make like adult transformers not like that.

415
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:44.319
You have switch this robot to on
red and they and they and they totally

416
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:48.480
do and they're like hundreds of dollars
but they look like what you want,

417
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:52.799
like what the cartoon looked like.
And when they transform, it takes like

418
00:26:52.880 --> 00:27:00.519
two hours. Uh, but like, uh, they look awesome and they

419
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.839
might be real. I'm not sure
yet. They probably are, but like

420
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:08.279
they have like you know how like
Megatron always look like crap. Like you

421
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:14.480
transform Megatron and he looked like a
like a block with like flat legs and

422
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.160
like just garbage. It didn't look
like them a cartoon. Yeah, and

423
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:18.720
you know when you transforming, nobody
can hold a gun because it's too big.

424
00:27:21.559 --> 00:27:26.519
They there are like third party people
working on the Megatron problem. There

425
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.599
are some of our best minds.
NASA may have just been shut down so

426
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.119
they can fix this Megatron. How
do you change a gun into a robot

427
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:38.279
and have the thighs look okay,
look at us. It's awesome. There.

428
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:42.240
The Internet's a great place and YouTube
will take you there if you want

429
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.839
to go down looking through people's like
being like, well, okay, here's

430
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:51.640
uh, this is uh, you
know, Conrad Bishops a Megatron model,

431
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:53.759
and let's check out the thighs on
this one. This guy's uh, you

432
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:56.920
know, they're a little wider,
he's a little uh you know, the

433
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:03.200
gun is about millimeter too short from
the actual gun. Uh. So you

434
00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:03.839
know, I'm gonna give this one
or four and a half. Let's move

435
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:10.079
on to the next Megatron. It's
awesome. I yeah, that's I can't

436
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:11.759
buy. I can't buy any of
it. No, there was like a

437
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:15.400
yeah, and they've done like weird
crossover stuff like a here's a Sega Genesis

438
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:19.880
that turns into Megatron or you know, I'm not a working Sega Genesis.

439
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:22.480
But then there was like, at
some point there was like here's a Lincoln

440
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:29.839
Park boom box that turns into sound
Wave and it's just like a japan still

441
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.559
sticking it out with these awesome fans. Uh yeah, that's that stuff got

442
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.759
weird. But at some point I
was like at some point, I just

443
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:40.200
you know, and and and you
know, like I've been collecting games of

444
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:44.519
a sort for a long time and
I'm damn near broken of it. Of

445
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:48.240
the collections of collections, like I
just don't I don't have a need to

446
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.279
own physical stuff. Uh and yeah, like I went and looked all those

447
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:53.720
Transformer and I was like, yeah, three hundred dollars like a kick ass

448
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.680
fucking sound wave. And he comes
with a tiny Megatron that he can put

449
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.799
in his hand like like he used
to do when you hold the gun.

450
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:03.920
It's supposed to be like God wanted
it right, exactly exactly. It's like

451
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.839
in Genesis. Yes. Yeah.
And at some point I was like,

452
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:08.880
I have no place to put this
stuff, like I'm not one of these

453
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.680
guys. That's just like I'm gonna
decorate my desk with a bunch of shit

454
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.440
from when I was a kid.
So my office seems interesting, Like so

455
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.920
people walk by and go, oh, you guys look like you have fun

456
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:22.000
like and I was like, get
the fuck back to the HR department,

457
00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:26.359
leave me alone. It's almost like
you speak from experience. Yeah, no

458
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.640
it but actually people walk through now
and just go like this place is a

459
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.640
fucking wreck, and I go,
yeah, keep moving. Uh yeah,

460
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.160
Like I don't want to decorate a
cubicle like that. Stuff's just that's never

461
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.839
Alex. Alex's desk he's got his
laptop on it, and he like that.

462
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:47.039
He takes back and forth and like
podcast notes on it. When he's

463
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.519
not there, people just take shit
off his desk because it looks like it's

464
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:55.480
like abandoned. So like he's just
had where the where the fun took my

465
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:59.079
knick cage like thing I had on
here? And it's like, I don't

466
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:00.079
know, man, I saw something, just won't buy pick it up and

467
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:03.640
just start like play with just the
three pile. So and he's right on

468
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:08.119
a corner. So it's just like
I see his chairs missing half the time.

469
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.119
Real, it's real, And I
just sit back in my chair and

470
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.240
get like an orange cone and just
have to say, there's a desk here,

471
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.559
man on it and just and just
leave that though. Or I get

472
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.359
one of those like cardboard ikea like
computers that's just made like a box that's

473
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:26.839
not a real computer or monitor,
and just have a prop there so people

474
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:30.000
think there's a real computer. Yeah, just get like an inflatable like sex

475
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.359
doll or something like that sitting at
a chair that don't work. No,

476
00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.319
Yeah, who would have an argument
about that? It's a big click.

477
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.559
It's just CPS, you guys,
they're real cool with them. Yeah,

478
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.319
they're absolutely cool, especially in the
New York office. Right. Oh,

479
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:47.079
yeah, way cool. They're very
very very hip. Yeah, absolutely,

480
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:48.720
Jeff, are you at the point
where you're ready to do like kind of

481
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.079
fire sales stuff like I don't want
all of the ship or are you hanging

482
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.200
onto what you already have? I
like what, I'm fine with what I

483
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:56.720
have. I know. I look
at it and go like, oh,

484
00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:59.319
it's cool that I got these games, but there's no burning desire to be

485
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:00.920
like I need to go get more. It's like no, like all that

486
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.000
stuff is like easily playable depending on
what lines you want across. Right,

487
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:07.880
So it's just like I've got a
ton of fucking video games, but there's

488
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.039
no there's not. At no point
am I like, man, I need

489
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.880
a copy of this like obscure,
you know, old like you know that

490
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.720
that's wanted to play something, you
could play something, right, And I

491
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.920
have most of what I would want
in that capacity. So it's this feeling.

492
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:23.880
I was like, well, now
I've got like all this stuff,

493
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:29.359
and it's like I'm not even sure
if these intelevisions work, but I've got

494
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.119
four of them, uh, and
and tons of like you know, it's

495
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:36.519
like here's four copies of in television
football that you just end up with somehow.

496
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:37.559
It's just like stuff is just you
just gotta know where to look.

497
00:31:37.559 --> 00:31:44.359
You just ground running there and and
so I just don't feel a need to

498
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.039
like grow that collection. So like
you know, like when Metal Gear came

499
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:49.960
out, I bought a digital copy
of it. Like I just don't care

500
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:56.440
about the physical item. You don't
need the red robot hand Absolutely not,

501
00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:59.519
No, definitely not like any kind
of special edition stuff like that stuff has

502
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:01.720
always been trash. Yeah, that
like swag type stuff that you used to

503
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:05.799
about add E three a lot.
Like when you first get into the industry,

504
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:07.440
it's like, oh my god,
free cool video game stuff or whatever,

505
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.799
and you just kind of hoard that. But at a certain point,

506
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.559
it's like I just don't need this
plastic ship doesn't exist anymore. Like at

507
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:15.559
some point the video game industry ran
out of money and they're just like we're

508
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:16.519
just not going to give away a
bunch of free T shirts all the time

509
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:21.559
because it's who tears. So a
lot of that stuff dried up, thankfully,

510
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.000
And yeah there's there's you know,
like I have my mortal Kombat three

511
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:28.400
Frisbee, but there was no Mortal
Kombat X Frisbee. Well, guys,

512
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.839
I have news for you. If
you want, every month you can get

513
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:39.240
a new box full of fantastic video
game swag. Tell me more. It's

514
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:45.000
a crate. I'm out full loop
Nope, nope, guys, nope.

515
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:52.359
Do you like books but wait reading? No? Guys? How do you

516
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:58.680
feel about gambling? I love it, Brad. What do you collect besides

517
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:05.559
podcast advertisers, stamps? Nothing?
Nothing? Really is You're nothing cluttering off

518
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:09.759
the house. Wow, you're living
clean. Whiskey bourbon? I mean that

519
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:13.960
just goes right through me. Man, I don't keep it around. It's

520
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.319
not always bore where that came from. Whiskey on hand is not a concept

521
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:22.319
that I'm familiar with. So we
really have nothing. Really, it feels

522
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:24.799
really good to just get rid of
ships. After after I drove here from

523
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:29.079
Minnesota or here San Francisco, It's
like, God damn, this is a

524
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:30.720
pain in the ass moving. This
sucks so many boxes and stuff of a

525
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:35.400
ship that I'm never gonna use ever. And I just sold everything or gave

526
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.519
shit to good will, and now
I I barely have anything. Like you

527
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.640
know, most of my box games
and DVDs I got rid of and now

528
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.440
it's all digital and it feels fucking
awesome. Like if I ever need to

529
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:45.640
move, it's like, oh,
I just put like four boxes into a

530
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.240
thing and I'm good. Yeah,
you know, I dump out all my

531
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.839
stuff and roll in it and I
just roll around and garb. That sounds

532
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:53.640
good. Yeah, it sounds good. And then I put it in the

533
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:55.960
basement and let the spiders have at
it. Yeah no, I mean they

534
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.880
probably haven't played those games before.
So it's like it's it's a good library.

535
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:01.279
It's a resources. You guys should
start from the eighties and work your

536
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.880
way up. You'll appreciate it.
Yeah, you'll like the old stuff more

537
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.239
if you don't play the new stuff. Now. I have like totally have

538
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:14.800
like surprise, I have collection issues. I will like if I get one

539
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:21.000
of something accidentally, I need them
all everything. Yeah, I mean it's

540
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.880
it's I just kind of by just
virtue of like working around video games for

541
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:25.800
as long as I have, Like
you know, I just got stuff over

542
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:29.280
the years, but it was never
like this conscious effort to like I need

543
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:30.719
everything. And you get people that
are out there, like you know,

544
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:36.320
a guy we work with Peter brown
Back in the game Spot offices. I

545
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:38.800
was telling me about how he bought
an empty box for a video game the

546
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.920
other day because it sells for one
hundred dollars on eBay and he found someone

547
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.400
who was selling it for less than
that, and it was just like and

548
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.360
I was just like fuck that,
Like I don't want to be like,

549
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:50.400
you know, like get it going
down this road of like, well,

550
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.880
now I've collected every single loose Super
Nintendo game ever made. Now we need

551
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:59.280
them in box or now we need
him sealed, which sealed and graded box

552
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:01.599
four for If you go down the
spreadsheet, Oh, it's got like a

553
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:05.280
number. Oh yeah, what what
game it was? Yeah? I have

554
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.199
no idea. I don't remember.
I need to check if I have it.

555
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.280
Yeah, no, I have an
NBA JAM for the Super Nintendo.

556
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.679
I have that box. Okay,
sell to eighty bucks? Is that?

557
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:16.000
What's like? What kind of condition? It's got some dust on it?

558
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:20.679
It's probably it's like it's like an
eighty two eight three? Yeah? Did

559
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:24.239
you get a plastic is it?
Uh? Slabbed? No? I have

560
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:29.599
not slabbed anything yet. The company
that slabs video games. If you're like

561
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:30.880
trying to say like, oh,
I have this sealed thing that I want

562
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.880
to like sell for you know,
as a collector's item or something like that.

563
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.719
Like I have some sealed stuff that
you know, it should probably just

564
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:40.760
sell before I fuck up and damage
it or something. I was like,

565
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.039
oh, boxes fell on it.
Oh well, how's that magical chase doing

566
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:49.679
it's hidden away effectively and all that
stuff. But I should probably, But

567
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.920
like the process becomes like they want
you to mail it to Virginia or something

568
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:53.960
like that, and then they stare
at it for a while and go,

569
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:58.719
this seems like it's real. So
they do they have to turn it on?

570
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.039
So like do they have to make
because you're you're you're sending them sealed

571
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.920
stuff. They say like, oh, we've got technology that's texts. If

572
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.119
you resealed it, you filthy bastards, and and so like they claim to

573
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:12.320
be you know that they that they
can know what the original ceiling looks like.

574
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.519
So like, what are you going
to get to ensure that thing for

575
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.039
like ten grand or whatever when you
ship it out? I mean that would

576
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.719
be low balling it, I think, right if as a sealed copy of

577
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.880
this like super rare game that they
didn't make a lot of in the US

578
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.599
or something like that. So it's
like, I don't know, like,

579
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:29.880
yeah, you pack it super well
and ensure it us as well as you

580
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.239
can, and then they look at
it and in case it in plastic and

581
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:36.199
say it the b I don't know
the plastic the box is pushed in.

582
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:40.679
So this room between the plastic and
that and that, I imagine that's how

583
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:45.960
it goes, like grading anything that's
VG. This coin seems rubbed down.

584
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:53.159
It's not jim mint bus collection I
do have, which I of course you

585
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:58.199
have a fucking coin. It's a
sick coin collection, all right. I

586
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:00.079
just want to like, for everyone
here, for the folks at home,

587
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:05.000
I just want to have a disclaimer
here. There is no such thing as

588
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:13.599
a sick coin collection. He hasn't
seen my coin collection stamps though. That

589
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:19.840
airplane is upside down, y'all?
Like what I use Spider Man stamps?

590
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.400
I don't know they have Spider Man
on them. Yeah, why do you

591
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:23.920
have a lot of Why do you
have coins? What's what is it about

592
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:27.840
coins? Like I quarters because I
played a lot of arcade games and that

593
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.159
like short circuit in my head in
this nonsense way, where like look at

594
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:35.360
a quarter quarters. Uh, it's
it's yeah, that's weird. I have

595
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.119
a what so like I like,
I said, I like, uh,

596
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:44.599
finishing out the set, right.
So I wanted to get every coin that

597
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:49.079
was minted in the twentieth century,
because that's an achievable goal, right,

598
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:52.000
It's like getting feathers, right,
you get every feather And it said you

599
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:55.960
could do this, and uh,
I do some of the coins like run

600
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.480
away from you and you have to
chase him down. Yeah, they present

601
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:06.440
the street and she's like, oh, thank god. And coins tell a

602
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:20.599
story our nation's history. You can
tell a lot where we were on the

603
00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:22.800
coin. Is this like something at
some point you're gonna like take your kids

604
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:28.079
and go like, let's learn about
America the magic of coin? Here touching

605
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:30.000
that stuff? No, I mean
you know it's like you show it to

606
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:36.320
him from a safe distance and go
like, see this one g min guaranteed

607
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:40.079
it's uncirculated. These are uncirculated.
These are uncirculated. Doesn't get no cleaner

608
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.239
in this. They're uncirculated coins.
I got a whole roll of quarters,

609
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:45.599
but you know they're in the role
all clanking together, rubbing off like they're

610
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:51.480
fucking useful these uncirculated. That's cool, dad, I just crashed car through

611
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.639
the mailbox. Well, I'm not
selling my fucking coins. Get you a

612
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:59.599
new car. Uh yeah, it's
ah, it's pretty sweet man. Do

613
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.000
you say you want come buy?
Check it out? Okay, send me

614
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:06.119
pictures of all your coins everyone.
Oh yeah, okay, all of them.

615
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.760
Yeah, even the obverse. Yeah, definitely the obverse. Okay.

616
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:12.639
I want to get a good look
at these coins, like the abbies.

617
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.880
Yeah, okay, the fronties and
the obbies that's what they call them,

618
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:17.760
right, Yes, that's right,
that's tech. I didn't know you were

619
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.000
waiting into this. Oh yeah,
I'm a philatelist. I didn't know you

620
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:27.960
the mastatists didn't. I just said, no, we can't. That's so

621
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.440
much more talking exactly. I just
you know, it's like, I just

622
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:32.639
have to get silver because that's what
Glenn Beck said to do, and coins

623
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:37.639
hasn't. They're in coins, So
you gotta get something exactly for when the

624
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:43.239
end times come. Those are coming
with me. I'm gonna melt the coins

625
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.320
down and then use the silver to
make bullets to shoot the giant spiders.

626
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:51.159
Does won't work. You gotta use
pre you gotta use nineteen sixty four below.

627
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:52.920
That's when the silver count the coins
was high. Now it's all nickel

628
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:57.079
and copperplated. You would know you've
slayed a lot of vampires. I have

629
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.480
slayed many. I also collect vampires. Yeah, you gotta get the complete

630
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:05.519
set. It's really hard. You
gotta get the nail on the bib all

631
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:07.840
this other stuff. Yeah. Yeah, uh so that's the kind of the

632
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:13.760
other thing it's been like ongoing recently
is like this this like fire, this

633
00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:17.880
like running screaming away from the video
game business that Konami has been doing.

634
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.719
Uh Like I say, that's been
ongoing. Yeah, yeah, that's that's

635
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:24.400
been like, oh, let's let's
call it like a five year plan that

636
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:29.559
they're nearing the end of. Right, But yeah, it just seems like,

637
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:30.440
you know, stuff that you know, before Metal Gear came out,

638
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.840
you started hearing all the stories about
like, oh everything there is just fucking

639
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:38.039
fucked and everyone is leaving or all
the you know, and now it's like,

640
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:42.639
oh yeah, and all these people
are pretty much gone and and they're

641
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:46.840
pretty much not making games anymore or
console games, and it's like that so

642
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.239
they're all chanitors now, right,
Yeah, they all got demoted they all

643
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:55.639
work at the health club and the
Pachinko mines uh chinco my my farm.

644
00:40:55.639 --> 00:41:00.239
In that particular, like the fact
that like metal Gear comes out and is

645
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.039
like heralded it as it's like second
coming almost, and then it just being

646
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.440
like are we sure we want to
get out of this right? No?

647
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:07.480
And then they're probably just like no, it's could the last one out?

648
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.639
Just switch off the lights, like
we're gonna put out the soccer game then

649
00:41:10.679 --> 00:41:15.719
fuck this shit Fall games. Yeah, you know, it's it's a bummer

650
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:21.199
because they have they had been when
I was growing up, a very big

651
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.679
part of you know, Nintendo totally. Yeah. I mean they were like

652
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:25.840
they were like a pillar. They
were a key name, like right up

653
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:29.480
there with like Capcom and even Nintendo
itself. You know, just like when

654
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:30.599
it comes to you know, you
start to take like the Ultra name into

655
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:35.599
it, and I just want to
play Jackal. The drums in those games,

656
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:39.280
the Konami drums in those as games
just awesome. So it's just like,

657
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:43.039
yeah, obviously like that huge thing. I'm just like Contra Castlevania,

658
00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:46.280
the other Castlevania, that other Contra. At some point they got a hold

659
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.079
of Hudson's. So then they're like, well, now we also have bomber

660
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.519
Man that we're not going to do
anything with. It's gonna happen to Master

661
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.679
Higgins. Master Higgins left the company, the real life Master Higgins is no

662
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:59.519
longer a part of Hudson And and
then yeah, at some point, the

663
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:04.320
Adventure Island is closed, and yeah, I don't know, it's you know,

664
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:06.559
it's this weird thing. I think
a lot of people are really mad

665
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:07.960
about it. But it's like,
on on some level, I can't,

666
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:12.039
like you look at like the business
reasons and you're like, I can't blame

667
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.800
them, right, And I think
specifically they were saying, I mean you

668
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:17.639
translate this the console stuff, but
it was like we're getting out of Triple

669
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:21.480
A and whatever that means, right, Like I guess that means like the

670
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:23.840
big two, big sixty dollars expensive
to make games, like you know,

671
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:27.360
a lot a lot of the smaller
stuff, the twenty dollars games, like

672
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:29.599
you know, it's it's a different
scale. And you kind of look at

673
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.159
like the transition with Japan and it's
been tough to kind of like, oh,

674
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:37.000
I mean Triple A has had a
tough time and five years, right,

675
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:40.599
and then like Japan has been trying
to like do stuff to reach the

676
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:45.320
Western market, to make their their
games more global online modes that are always

677
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.800
kind of like this isn't the thing, man, Like Lost Planets. Yeah,

678
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:50.880
like when Lost plant two came out
and they were like, we played

679
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.199
a lot of Call of duty to
develop the Lost plan and multiplayer mode,

680
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:55.519
and you we're like, no,
you didn't like when or if you did,

681
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:59.840
you didn't like watch anything it was
doing, like not that that would

682
00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:02.199
be like this great thing either,
but and yeah, so part of me

683
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:07.679
feels like it's that's sad to me
that that transition has been so hard.

684
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:13.159
Uh you know, I hear there's
a pretty cool indie scene happening in Japan

685
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.639
now, Yeah, yeah there is, and that's really good to hear.

686
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.079
I mean, it's probably the same
across the rest of the world, where

687
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:22.000
the indie stuff is challenging time for
the Triple A stuff, But then you

688
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.960
get something like metal Gear and it's
like, man, when that big stuff

689
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:30.519
hits, when everything comes together and
works out just right, like Colors,

690
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:32.480
well yeah, but yeah that's not
that much money, that chey, But

691
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:38.119
like when when Japan does Japan and
they really fucking do it. It comes

692
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:40.039
together in a way that no other
game can. Like, you know,

693
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:43.719
there are funny games that like try
to be like wacky and like we're gonna

694
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.039
be fun like you know, we're
gonna have funny misspellings like old games used

695
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:51.960
to have, and like they're trying
to tap into what Japanese games were to

696
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.079
the Western market. In this really
kind of like not not super authentic for

697
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.800
yeah, and you know not to
say that like Medal Gear as a bunch

698
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.559
of translation problems. It's it's polished
up nicely. It's it's it's a well

699
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.440
made weird thing, but it's weird
in a way that you can't fake.

700
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:09.599
Yeah, it's weird on its own
terms. It's weird in like you know,

701
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:14.360
they're going down these deep rabbit holes
of like the dog has an eyepatch.

702
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.960
That's not that weird, that's not
that weird. Pretty good, that's

703
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:23.920
good. Orse as a pleass dog
is a wolf, that's weird. That's

704
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:29.079
the weird part. Yeah. And
it's like like like if anything, that

705
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:32.960
game is like a sad reminder that
like man like this when everything was hitting

706
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.480
on all cylinders, like games from
you know these publishers that are you know,

707
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.639
not necessarily doing it the same way
the CAPCOMs and Kanamis of the world,

708
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.000
and you know, Segas and you
know different companies that have just kind

709
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:50.400
of become different things Square Inns and
stuff. You know, like like there

710
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:54.239
was just nothing like it and there
still isn't but surprise you in a way

711
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:59.159
that nobody else could. Yeah,
but like the business just can't support that

712
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:01.840
stuff in the same way anymore,
you know, especially when they're over there

713
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.719
looking at like puzzling Dragons and all
this other stuff and go like, well,

714
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:07.679
you know, we could take the
one hundred and fifty people that worked

715
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.840
on making you know, metal Gear
or whatever other similar size game, but

716
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.119
what if we broke those people down. It like four smaller teams that made

717
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.800
free to play phone games that we
you know, hooked up the line or

718
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:21.199
whatever, and then you know it's
like we just crank out the money,

719
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:24.280
you know. And so yeah,
I don't know where at this weird transition

720
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.480
point I think for the business we
have been for for a long time,

721
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.320
and it's it's it's like one of
those things where like the consoles came out

722
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:34.039
and everyone was like, oh yeah, consoles aren't dead. Everyone wants consoles,

723
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.559
This isn't you know, Like there
was that worry beforehand, was like

724
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:38.719
or that that feeling of just like, well, mobile's going to steal away

725
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:44.480
all the console business and all this
other stuff. And but I don't think

726
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:46.079
consoles are out of the woods yet
when you look at some of the stuff

727
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:51.199
and you look at kind of how
slow it's been to get the big games

728
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.559
onto the new platforms, like it's
finally starting to happen this year, and

729
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:57.760
it's been awesome. There's been some
really great stuff, but you still look

730
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.360
at it and go like, well, you know, this will see how

731
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:05.679
it goes, uh, I mean
you know, And and hearing you tell

732
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:08.519
stories about how quickly your kids pick
up touch screens as opposed to controllers,

733
00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:12.880
it's just like, ah right,
yeah, no, totally, like we're

734
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:16.760
super old and like at some point
this is thanks man. Yeah, so

735
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.519
your kids are ruining video games.
I hope you're fucking happy. I'm super

736
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:24.320
old they're but they're not touching my
coins and a good call. Yeah,

737
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.840
you'll always have your coins, will
always have buried me with my coins until

738
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:35.519
your kids sell them and use the
money to buy space cars. Oh man,

739
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:38.360
Yeah, no, that's that's that's
just how it's gonna go for you.

740
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:45.320
I think I was in a I
was in a coin store. I'm

741
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:52.239
gonna all right, I've I have
been to multiple coin stores in my day.

742
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.280
Okay, So there was Bill's coins, there was some other coin store

743
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:59.599
friend's coins. Yeah. No.
And the cool thing about the coin store

744
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.719
the baseball card stores would have it
also is that they would have these cases

745
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:06.599
with all of the coins laid out
on these trays and then it was a

746
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:08.960
rotating series of trays and there were
two buttons on it and you could push

747
00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:12.400
it to make them go around in
a way. Oh wow, that's fancy.

748
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:14.159
So you could like go like,
no, I want to look at

749
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.639
that coin some more and bring it
back. And that's the only cool thing

750
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:22.480
about coins, all right, go
ahead and tell your story. So a

751
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:27.760
guy just brings in like a bin
of like coins that he was just like

752
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:31.840
like I don't know, like this
was my brothers, and they just cracked

753
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:37.599
everything open and gutted the whole thing, and like literally they should have been

754
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.360
melting it down on the spot.
They're looking to go, we'll give you

755
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:44.440
six dollars for it around and sell
it for nine thousand totally. Yeah.

756
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.519
Yeah, it's like game stop.
Yes, they're getting out of coins.

757
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:53.000
It's really weird. The used coin
market is huge. I think I think

758
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:58.679
so I should read my book.
Uh yeah, I don't know, like

759
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:02.000
it's that I have. I can't. I cannot further engage you on this

760
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:05.719
coin. No, no, we'll
talk about He's full of fun coin facts

761
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:07.480
that everything you need to know.
It's true. There are no fun because

762
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:13.559
there are no fun coin facts.
What does the D mean? It's the

763
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:20.360
mint is? Where's minted Detroit?
It's not Detroit, Delaware? What the

764
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:22.800
fuck do you know about coins?
Nothing? I just made that whole thing

765
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:24.679
up. I got you guys for
a really long time. Oh man,

766
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:30.159
there's no coin collection, Dan,
what did so you? Did you have

767
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.760
any kind of nightmarish collection that you
like had to pare down? Geez,

768
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.199
I did the thing. We're like
right out of college. Long story,

769
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:42.639
my dad's been divorced a billion times, and the timing went great. Where

770
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.719
As I was graduating, he was
in the middle of getting married for the

771
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:50.960
forty something time, and so I
got to move into his old house as

772
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.039
he moved out, and so all
of a sudden. I had this three

773
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.599
story house that you know, to
myself, and I was paying like six

774
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:00.880
hundred dollars a month for rent because
like, oh, my dad didn't need

775
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:02.119
it and he owned it, so
fuck you know, his son will give

776
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.760
him six hundred bucks a month or
whatever. So fresh out of college,

777
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:07.079
it's like, oh shit, I
just needed to fill this place with stupid

778
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:12.719
shit. I thought this was gonna
go and started collecting fire. I started

779
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:16.079
collecting real estate, and it became
a billionaire. It was weird, no,

780
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.679
So I was very shortsighted, and
I was like, well, I

781
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.360
have all this space. I need
to buy stuff for all of these rooms.

782
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.119
And so I was buying stuff like
heavy bags, you know, like

783
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:28.079
boxing stuff I don't know how to
fucking box and like stuff like that,

784
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:30.480
and like, oh, well,
this will be my classic gaming room where

785
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:32.159
I'm just gonna put my sixty four
my nes and all this stuff. And

786
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:38.280
I just filled it with shit.
And then like a year later, I

787
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:40.840
got the job in Minnesota with Game
Informer, and it's like, oh,

788
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:44.440
now I need to move up.
And I don't just pay my dad,

789
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:45.639
I have to pay an actual person. And so now I have a tiny

790
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:49.920
one bedroom apartment, but I have
three stories worth of shit that I've bought

791
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.840
over a year. Yeah, and
fate would have it. My dad was

792
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.519
getting divorced at the time, so
he so he moved back in and it's

793
00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.280
like, Oh, I gotta get
rid of all this shit and that this

794
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:01.679
is why he at that mortal combat
to arcade cabinet in his house for like

795
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:06.960
four years that he covered with a
big blanket and he brought a lady back

796
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:08.400
or something. It's like, Oh, she's gonna think I'm a doork if

797
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:12.199
I've a mortal combat machine, like, but he was too lazy to get

798
00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:14.599
someone to move it or to move
it himself, so it was just his

799
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.000
I think he referred to it as
a murder sarcophagus once. Yeah. Yeah,

800
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:20.280
It's like I would pay no attention
to this thing, right, Like

801
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:22.320
I feel like, like, you
know, having like explaining the mortal combat

802
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:28.320
machine seems like way easier than Yeah, here's an arcade machine shaped like thing

803
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.719
with a drape over like what's this
is? Like, Oh, that's where

804
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.559
I keep my painting supplies. Like
what's he gonna say? Let me bring

805
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:37.880
it back to the spider thing with
my dad to illustrate how lazy my dad

806
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:43.000
is. In the same house he
I hung like some I hung posters everywhere

807
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.519
because again I was just buying shit
just to fill space. And so when

808
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:51.519
he makes my old bedroom his bedroom
again, there was a nail directly above

809
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:52.559
the bed. So when you wake
up, like right there, there's a

810
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.280
big nail that I hung some sex
one, of course, my sex one.

811
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:59.320
Yes, yeah, it was great. I missed that he would wake

812
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:04.039
up and just this nail. And
every single morning for the last like five

813
00:51:04.159 --> 00:51:07.280
years, he tells me he wakes
up and he's confused when he wakes up,

814
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:08.480
like, oh shit, spider.
And then he realized like, oh

815
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:13.159
no, it's that nail. But
he's so lazy he won't just get up

816
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.400
and go whoop and just take this
nail out. So every morning he wakes

817
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:19.719
up afraid of spiders that don't exist. I mean, I wake up ever

818
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.679
the exact the same way and there's
no nail anywhere. I think that's actually

819
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.719
a pretty safe fucking way to live
your life, is to wake up afraid

820
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.000
of something like, all right,
I gotta get up in season to day

821
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:36.039
because no, yeah, I mean
I I kind of you know, I

822
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.800
went through like my weird trash house
phase when like I moved in with some

823
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:42.679
college girls. They all graduated and
moved out, and I moved all my

824
00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:45.800
dirt bag friends in. And then
at some point the house got too fucked

825
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:47.960
up and they didn't even want to
live there anymore. So I had it

826
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:51.119
was its four bedroom place. There
was like, you know, me and

827
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:52.599
one other guy, and I was
like, well, what are we gonna

828
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:54.440
do with this room? It's like, well, m so we had a

829
00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:01.199
pornographic TVD as you do. Uh, And this one was good because it

830
00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.400
was one of those value ones where
it's just like it's it's just the full

831
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.920
sale of it is just like it's
it's three hours long, and you're like,

832
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.360
all right, great that it is, like you need that's a good

833
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.960
amount of time. And it looped. It looped. Uh So when it

834
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:19.079
would get to the end of the
three hours really long time, it don't

835
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:23.519
really any like ten minutes on a
DVD, I think value okay, right,

836
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:25.519
right, I can't argue that.
I mean, you know, if

837
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:28.719
they would have been smart, they
would have had a menu that gave you

838
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.159
a random ten minutes every time you
push play, right, But so this

839
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:40.280
thing would loop at the end.
It's un Mario challenge exactly, pick expert,

840
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:45.000
pick expert for that one. Uh
So we set up a telet We

841
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.559
took one of these extra bedrooms and
then just set up a television in it

842
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:53.360
and just like said, we're just
gonna have this porn film looping forever,

843
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:57.840
twenty four hours a day. Like
you'd walk by the room and look in

844
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:02.559
and go and just keep moving and
just like you know, it's like one

845
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:05.719
of those things were just like,
oh, let's let's take pictures of you

846
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:09.079
know, I have pictures of friends
of mine like holding guns next to the

847
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:13.840
porn TV. And it's just like
we just like wanted to just like let's

848
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:16.800
just go full weird militia nonsense,
and they're just like holies. They're all

849
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:21.119
like pellet rifles or something're holding it
saluting and the two of them are staying

850
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:24.480
there between this like just you know, just porn loop. And when on

851
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:28.519
the rare occasion when other people would
come into the home that didn't already know

852
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:32.440
that we were fucking idiots, that
painted a pretty clear picture pretty quick.

853
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.840
They let people know what they were
in for. They're like, oh,

854
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:39.159
I totally don't want to be here. Okay, I have to go like,

855
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:43.280
yeah, you probably should. I
don't want to be here either,

856
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:45.000
you know, like this isn't we
can't get anyone else to live here.

857
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:53.719
I wonder why weird? Uh?
Yeah, he trapped in a thought right

858
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:59.400
now. It was a good tvd
It was a long No, it was

859
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:05.400
a long which for some people is
probably good. But you know, was

860
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.760
it was it? If you don't
mind me asking, huh it was a

861
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:14.960
compilation DVD? Or is it one
couple just three hours? Doesn't happen like

862
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:19.159
sitting down to dinner. I just
throughout the day like should we should we

863
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:23.119
do the sex thing again? Yeah? Okay, that's uh? That out

864
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:25.599
is around your house? Should we
do the sex? No? I've got

865
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:28.760
two kids. Okay, No,
you're all right now? Are we sitting

866
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.199
down to dinner? No? This
was one of This was one of those

867
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:34.679
things where like, I guess I
should clarify for those of your in the

868
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:40.159
room, we haven't extensively researched pornography
back when you got to get it on

869
00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:44.239
TVD. I mean, the Internet
changed everything, obviously. The ones that

870
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:47.360
advertise like the length of time on
them also tend to advertise all sex.

871
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:53.119
What does that mean? No story
getting in the way. No one's delivering

872
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:57.719
a pizza. No one's just like, oh, spring breaks going really great,

873
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.199
you guys. No one's like,
I'm a bag robber on the run

874
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:02.760
and I need gas but I don't
have money. What am I gonna do?

875
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:08.119
I'm a pretty lady bag robber.
I dropped my coins all over The

876
00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:12.320
police points are everywhere. I gotta
get down all fours and pick up the

877
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:16.239
coins. That's that's awesome. I
can help you with the coins. Oh

878
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:22.840
no, none of that set up
is present. It just doesn't need to

879
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:25.559
be there in these situations. This
is like the sort of film, This

880
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:30.320
is the sort of quality production you
would purchase at a convenience store where I

881
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.599
buy all my movies. They didn't
have vending machines in California. They had

882
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:37.239
vending machines and Kansas for porn.
It would just be a vending machine that,

883
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:39.119
Yeah, that was literally it.
It would be that sounds like some

884
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:44.079
Tokyo type shit. No, no, go to Lawrence, Kansas. Bottom

885
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:45.440
cup of rows or like condoms and
lube and stuff, and the rest is

886
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:51.800
all like really shitty, Like where
is this not a bowling Alley. Okay,

887
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:53.199
okay, if you're gonna tell me
like, hey, you went to

888
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.840
an adult bookstore and they had a
porn vending machine, I'll be like,

889
00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:00.559
of course they did. I was
in college in the out of strip clubs

890
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.000
in Lawrence Gass. Okay, all
right, that makes sense, yes,

891
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:06.280
if you were like, it wasn't
like at you know, I was at

892
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.719
the tennis courts next to the church
and it was like I needed an nestly

893
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:13.639
crunch bar. And then I was
like three hours all sex, Like,

894
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:22.400
well, I can't play tennis all
the time. You can play tennis all

895
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:24.000
the time. Though, Why don't
they make tennis video games anymore? What

896
00:56:24.119 --> 00:56:30.639
happened? Yeah, Mario, Mario
tennis coming out on with you Tennis games

897
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:35.639
man? Not like fun? Hey, virtual tennis was fun. Virtual tennis

898
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:39.519
is super fun. Like where's Roger
Federer, He's a tennis guy. We

899
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:45.519
have a game, probably virtual?
Like like, no one's making serious tennis

900
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:49.960
anymore, like Mario, tennis is
the last thing you know, obviously rocks

901
00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:53.920
are made. Table ten table the
most serious of very the only serious,

902
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:58.760
like you know, not sense pong. If you'll take table tennis so seriously,

903
00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:06.280
Brad Whine tennis because they grunt too
much. Okay, all right,

904
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:10.360
okay, yeah, yeah, I'll
take it. Okay, they just yeah,

905
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:15.639
they have three hours all grunt.
Absolutely, that's that's we Tennis may

906
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:19.239
have killed tennis. I could see
that, and that's I'll take that as

907
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:21.599
a valid answer as well. We
sports came out and was so good,

908
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:28.239
everyone's like, well fuck all this
other stuff like that seems reasonable. I've

909
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:32.119
got some emails. Oh yeah.
Uh. Bomb cast at giant bomb dot

910
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:36.159
com is where you can send your
emails to this podcast that we do.

911
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:38.280
And if this laptop every boots up, will take a couple of them.

912
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:40.719
And then also there's a microphone over
here if people have some questions. So

913
00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:45.039
anyway, well I'm not I'm asking
if okay, I'm gonna ask a question

914
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:50.000
to see if anyone has any questions. Does anyone have any questions? Yeah?

915
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:51.760
Okay, all right, don't you
don't need to keep your hands up

916
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:54.840
right now. We'll get there.
But you know, just let's see what

917
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:59.280
we got here. I have a
beer? That can I have a beer?

918
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:02.079
You? Absolutely? Thank you?
All right, let's see here we've

919
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:07.360
got one from Jeremiah of Ontario.
Uh says, hey, you guys have

920
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:12.360
opinions about video games, so let's
hear them. They're terrible, they were

921
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:17.880
better before. Uh, what's your
favorite games of the last generation? Not

922
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:22.280
the best games, but the ones
you enjoyed the most. And then this

923
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:24.079
guy goes on to say, if
I had to pick a favorite game of

924
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:30.920
last generation, I definitely picked Near. There are tons of problems with the

925
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:34.840
game, but while playing I overlooked
them at one of my favorite gaming experiences

926
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:36.800
ever, So I guess, yeah, you're not necessarily like trying to say

927
00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.119
objectively what's the best game? Let's
tie this conversation. We need. We've

928
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:44.320
been talking about this for like damn
near all years. What are the best

929
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:47.039
games of the last generation? What
are the actual best games in the last

930
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:50.440
generation? That's a whole podcast,
you guys, you guys are ready to

931
00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.800
be here for another like eighteen hours. Let us start this fucking fight and

932
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:57.480
well we will finish it later.
But like, what's the what, Let's

933
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.880
let's have it. Let's let's get
his tenders, take him into just set

934
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:04.639
up a little ground rule. Are
we talking? Uh? What not?

935
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.320
We franchise? Is this is a
game? Yeah, I think you have

936
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:12.079
to pick a game, but like
you. Also, if we were building

937
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:16.039
a top ten and let's say we
were like huge rock band fans, you

938
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:19.719
would only pick one rock band game. But I would have to, like

939
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.760
say, pick a mass effect,
not the front, not the series.

940
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:27.239
I think for a story based game, maybe you get a different it's a

941
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.280
different situation. But at the same
time, I feel like we should probably

942
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:36.000
try to steer towards picking one one
mass Effect two, which is to say

943
00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:40.239
we're picking mass Effect two. Yeah, I'm with it as as that game

944
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:45.719
and not one, and definitely not
three. Okay, fact two was a

945
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:50.280
good game like three. I'm not
going to sit here and tell you that

946
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:52.840
three was a bad game. It's
a good game. It's okay, I

947
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:58.400
really like Mass Effect two. Great, all right done? Next question?

948
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:00.880
Uh no, but it's you know, I think, you know, like

949
01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:04.559
the ones we've been kicking around.
It's like Burnout Paradise only two the matter

950
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:07.960
Burnout Paradise, Oh you would say
that, and burnt and Burnout Paradise.

951
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:13.480
Red Dead the first one that comes
to mind for me. Red Dead and

952
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:17.559
PS two game right the Capcom Yeah, yeah, gun right, Yeah,

953
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:22.679
it was called gun in the States. You're thinking about Gun two, And

954
01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:24.360
also like, so, what's a
generation? What do we where? Where's

955
01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:31.840
the general six? I mean we're
talking to oh five to uh what twenty

956
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:37.239
ship like a couple of years ago. Let's say O five to twenty ten.

957
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:39.760
And I think you know, it's
it's probably okay to say that PC

958
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:44.280
probably gets a short shrift in this
thing, just by virtue of like,

959
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:47.199
it's not really a generational system,
like it sees the ports of a generation,

960
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:51.920
but like graphics hardware comes out in
a slightly different way. I guess

961
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:53.400
you could say, like anything that
came out in this time in this fair

962
01:00:53.480 --> 01:00:57.679
game. Yeah, uh yes,
we could, we could allow it.

963
01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:00.679
It's an impossible conversation. I know. Let's all right here in the next

964
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:08.719
ten minutes. Uh, Mass Effect
two is really good. You guys.

965
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:14.679
I'm gonna let me tell you about
a game. I'm gonna tell me Burnout

966
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:19.679
Paradise. Okay, okay. It's
a driving game. It's an open world

967
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:22.719
driving game. You drive around,
there are races and whatever. You do

968
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:27.559
shit. But then you get online
and then you're doing fucking spins through fucking

969
01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.800
construction sites and jumping all this,
and everybody's got to get up on the

970
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:31.800
thing and hit the brakes and they're
like, oh, we gotta go get

971
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:35.960
up to this spot in the top
of the barn to win, and then

972
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.920
we're gonna go jump and do sick
fucking stunts. What's the story? Like,

973
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:45.920
you're a car, there's a DJ. There's a DJ who might also

974
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:52.199
be a car. You'd never see
him, right, and then you find

975
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:54.119
other cars okay, I think,
And then the end of it, you

976
01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:58.480
take a picture of yourself to put
on your license, and then when you

977
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:01.559
crash into people, it takes picture
of you like this, and then it

978
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:05.079
sends it to them and they get
to see it and go, man,

979
01:02:05.239 --> 01:02:07.519
that guy is should put on some
more clothes, because what the fuck.

980
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:14.000
It's a story about love car love. It was a really good game.

981
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:20.679
Yes, some might say the best
game of the last generation of video games.

982
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:24.039
Uh is Galaxy counting that generation?
Yes? Yes, that was very

983
01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:30.840
good Galaxy games. Yes, absolutely, m they're the best three D platformers

984
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:38.519
of all time. So like the
dying gasp of a failing genre, still

985
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:42.559
really fun. Yeah, No,
those games were cool. I grew up

986
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:47.239
with them as great time they made
him for a while. Yeah after that,

987
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:50.880
I guess, you know. But
like the relevant days were long gone.

988
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.400
Mario was sixty four and that was
a game. But what that's that's

989
01:02:55.440 --> 01:03:00.760
not even a video game. That's
like they'll probably launch an other Kickstarter for

990
01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:04.360
that at some point. All right, this is apparently a larger converence.

991
01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:10.519
It's impossible, not willing to have
so Burnout Paradise is the greatest game of

992
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:14.960
the previous generation, followed by Rock
Band three. As it turns out,

993
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:19.039
Wow, wow, glad we could
come to a consensus about this and really

994
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:23.639
solve this this issue that has just
been dogging us for so long. You

995
01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:27.639
know what I mean? Who know? Yeah? Who knows a great game

996
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:32.039
as well? Okay, this one
did. They did not include a name.

997
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:35.719
But hey, guys, how many
of you would it take to fight

998
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:38.320
a bear to the death? Okay, now we can have a conversation when

999
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:42.760
it says how many of you?
Is that like bomb cast? Guys?

1000
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:45.519
It's us. I think all of
us. Okay, let me finish.

1001
01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:50.840
You would be able to strategize,
but no weapons. The bear is an

1002
01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:55.599
average grizzly and is pretty pissed.
Please take a second to think and then

1003
01:03:55.719 --> 01:04:00.440
all state your answers at once.
Thanks. Okay, so I'm with it.

1004
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:03.320
Are you saying like we can strategize
together. Yeah, I like how

1005
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.199
many of us? All right,
who do you? Who do you want

1006
01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:09.519
on your grizzly team? Drew,
damn it, that's my answer. I

1007
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:13.400
got Drew, I got Jason would
be good too. I think Drew would

1008
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:16.679
befriend the bear and turn it on
us and then run and like right off

1009
01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:23.320
on its back. Yeah. So
I don't know sell us out. I

1010
01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:27.280
think he would like understand the bear
better than he understands us. I'm just

1011
01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:30.079
saying, if you, if you
see me somewhere wrestling the bear, don't

1012
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:34.360
help me help the bear. I'll
say, not Alex, not Kam.

1013
01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:40.119
I think I think we would talk
about the four of us, in which

1014
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:45.800
case I would probably say, no, there's no chance in this even you

1015
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:48.840
see what bears are like, we're
all dead immediately. And I don't know

1016
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:51.639
what happened. Yeah, I don't
know what happened with these questions, but

1017
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:56.360
at some point someone got Okay,
all right, I know this has already

1018
01:04:56.480 --> 01:05:00.400
been discussed. Oh, this is
a bat versus knife? Well, I

1019
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.920
know this is this podcast has already
discussed this at length. Has anybody his

1020
01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:09.119
opinions changed on the matter, and
what would Dan choose. Well, I've

1021
01:05:09.119 --> 01:05:12.440
seen WrestleMania thirty one, so I
know that bats can be sharp, right,

1022
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:15.639
yeah, yeah, oh wow,
the elusive bat knife. Yeah,

1023
01:05:15.840 --> 01:05:18.000
so I think I've got to go
with a dead rising weapon. I think

1024
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:20.559
I've got to go with things bat. But then you can also have a

1025
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:25.360
really long knife. That's just a
sword. That's what swords are. But

1026
01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:30.079
it isn't that just a sharp bat? No, not at all. Wait,

1027
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.840
what's the difference? Bats are around
and not sharp. You can have

1028
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:40.440
like a metal bat metal, then
it's a sword. I can speak from

1029
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:43.800
some experience that if you take a
t ball bat and beat a bike with

1030
01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:46.920
it long enough, the t ball
bat will compress and dent in it enough

1031
01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:49.840
ways that it gets sort of sharp. Okay, it would be it would

1032
01:05:49.840 --> 01:05:55.280
be more unpleasant to be hit with
my my bat than the average we're talking

1033
01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:59.119
about a new store bought bad.
Then all right, then we're doing it's

1034
01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:02.519
bad. Uh, And then it's
just I don't know. Again, I

1035
01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:05.519
don't know what happened. What if
a brown bear showed up in the middle

1036
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:10.320
of the fight. I don't know, Like this, come fucking grizzly talk.

1037
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:12.480
I thought, I thought, I
would group all the bear emails together.

1038
01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:15.440
Yeah that's smart. Yeah, I
forget what my original bear block,

1039
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:18.000
but I'm still twenty minutes on bears. Okay, yeah, I would fight

1040
01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:24.119
a bear with a knife. Okay, yeah, all right, And yeah

1041
01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:27.079
I think then I think I always
said that the knife would win, because

1042
01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:29.199
like you you know, you might
take a hit with the bat, but

1043
01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:30.599
if you're rushing them with a knife, you were still stabbing them up,

1044
01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:35.320
good, real good, just stabbing
stabbed like a bear, like stabbing a

1045
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:38.639
person. I'm saying, Oh,
it's like if a person with a knife

1046
01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:43.280
versus a person with a bat,
who wins The Bat's got my range?

1047
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:45.519
I think the range is important.
No, the range is important. But

1048
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:47.239
like you could take a hit from
a bat and keep going, yeah,

1049
01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:49.440
or if you wouldn't kissed off enough, you could get hit with a bat

1050
01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:53.840
and keep charging someone with your knife
and get the job done. Yeah.

1051
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:57.880
Whereas like you know, if you're
slashing them up with a fucking knife,

1052
01:06:57.960 --> 01:06:59.800
like, yeah, they might still
get a couple of shots with a bad

1053
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:01.119
and maybe they get you in the
head and get a lucky shot and you're

1054
01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:05.559
done. But you get the knife
in there, it's gonna you just gotta

1055
01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:10.039
close the gap. You just gotta
close the gap. I'm telling you.

1056
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:12.639
Then the knife is the only choice
in this show. All right, all

1057
01:07:12.719 --> 01:07:15.880
right, all right, one more
of these and then we will we will

1058
01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:19.800
invite some people up to ask some
some questions as well, and then maybe

1059
01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:28.159
talk some more. All right.
My son got deep into geocashing, started

1060
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:34.199
when he was five. That again
also just not you think, look after

1061
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:40.239
your kids. We've gone through the
woods and mountains, stumbling across all manner

1062
01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:44.239
of creatures. But it gets more
worrisome when you go more urban. In

1063
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.360
Central Park, we geocashed and came
across more than a few of your vagrant

1064
01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:51.400
hobo drifter types. All right,
don't see why that's that big a deal

1065
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:56.960
on it. In Connecticut, one
geocashing trip started with him stepping on and

1066
01:07:57.079 --> 01:08:00.519
pissing off a three foot snake,
and eventually it took us to a young

1067
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:06.159
child burning a homemade tinfoil pipe behind
an apartment building, as well as a

1068
01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:10.440
proper drifter or camp in the woods. Oddly enough, I've spotted at least

1069
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:15.079
half a dozen drift or camps around
town in recent years. Anyhow, Geocashing

1070
01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:19.800
the sport of kings wait, thanks
Nick, Chester, Connecticut. There's no

1071
01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:25.000
question there. I've got a question, all right. Well, it's geocashing.

1072
01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:28.920
Geocashing is the thing where like you
like get a little you take a

1073
01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:32.199
you take a GPS device, whether
it's like a garment like amotive or whatever.

1074
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:36.840
No, it's like it's this whole
weird you use it to find stuff

1075
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:41.199
that's buried. So like, just
like people will post online like hey,

1076
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:44.520
here are the GPS coordinates of some
shit in the middle of nowhere, Like

1077
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:46.960
there are huge websites where to list
things like by difficulty, like this is

1078
01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:50.039
a five star geocash, which means
you have to like climb a tree or

1079
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:54.479
something. Who's putting something, who's
putting this stuff, it's the whole geocash

1080
01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:58.279
community or whatever, and so you
have to follow, like you'll download the

1081
01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.600
coordinates to your whatever g PS device
you have, whether it's a watch or

1082
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:03.079
not a motive thing or whatever,
and then I've done. There's plenty Like

1083
01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:05.159
you're walking through the woods or whatever, and it's like, okay, well

1084
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:08.840
i'm a little south of this,
I gotta go there and you'll just see

1085
01:09:08.920 --> 01:09:12.399
some weird thing or you gotta move
some leaves aside and then there's a fucking

1086
01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:14.920
can that someone put there and you
open it up and it's filled the bouncy

1087
01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:18.680
balls or jacks or some bullshit like
that's geo. Then you then you then

1088
01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:24.399
you question your life choices. Then
you take the dumb bouncy balls or whatever

1089
01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:27.399
out of there, and you're supposed
to put your own dumb bullshit in there,

1090
01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:31.000
and then you post, you update
the thing on the geocashing website and

1091
01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:33.279
like move it, like move it
a little bit and then post it.

1092
01:09:33.439 --> 01:09:38.159
Yeah, Like there are there are
coins, coins and stuff that are like

1093
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:40.760
tracked where it's like, oh,
this one has been all over the country,

1094
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:42.800
Oh, this one's been in China, this one's been whatever. I

1095
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:45.159
thought that was a fun, like
dumb internet thing for a while. There's

1096
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:47.960
a website where you could like punch
in, uh the serial numbers on money

1097
01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:53.680
they were they were right it on
the bill yea hey yeah yeah yeah,

1098
01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:55.720
And it was like, you know, hey, let's try to track money.

1099
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:57.520
And I there was a while there
that I was like, this is

1100
01:09:57.560 --> 01:10:00.640
fun. I want to see where
my money's been. Other and like used

1101
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:03.840
to snart cocaine, like all money. Uh, and I just entered all

1102
01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:08.520
these bills for a while and never
there's never one that had been hit before.

1103
01:10:08.720 --> 01:10:10.720
Like I did it for like six
months. I was like every every

1104
01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:14.800
time I remember, like, oh, look like I'm a fucking idiot,

1105
01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:17.720
but I but I guess I was
making it better for the next person who

1106
01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:19.600
did that. I was like,
Oh, I was. I was in

1107
01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:27.079
San Francisco with the stallar bill.
That's cool, right. So the whole

1108
01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:31.840
thing is like you can follow your
phone to the coordinates like when I was

1109
01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:35.279
doing it, like it wasn't specific
enough of a GPS device. What do

1110
01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:39.399
you need like a GPS device?
Are there different ones? Can you collect

1111
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:43.399
them? Yeah? And hey,
I mean let me just like not to

1112
01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:45.800
fucking like spice up the pot here
for you a little bit. Uh,

1113
01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:51.199
when the ship goes down, Yes, you're probably gonna want a GPS device

1114
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:56.680
in your bug out bag. Nope, solar flag the solar flair will cause

1115
01:10:56.720 --> 01:10:59.279
a giant amp unless I put it
in my fairy. I was gonna say,

1116
01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:00.880
like, if you're not keeping your
bug out bag in your fcags,

1117
01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:06.640
then you're already fucked. True bury
the storage container underground. Uh huh,

1118
01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:13.319
so it can't be foultoned along with
the my my private satellite that I'll launch

1119
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:16.279
after. Of course, who doesn't
have a private satellite. They're just waiting

1120
01:11:16.319 --> 01:11:21.279
to launch. I don't know.
Uh, un preppers, that's not a

1121
01:11:21.319 --> 01:11:29.359
word. It's like the seven up
of prepping. It's the unpreppers. It

1122
01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:31.800
s to the see. Okay,
so they used to seven up at one

1123
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:35.920
point was called the uncola. And
there's it. No DNL Right, you're

1124
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:42.159
talking about this. I saw one
hand at the audience. All right.

1125
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:47.680
Yeah, that guy's old. It's
just like us found him out. All

1126
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:50.680
right, So let's talk about some
questions here. We'll get one more question

1127
01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:54.920
here, then we'll take your questions. Uh. Nick here says what video

1128
01:11:54.960 --> 01:12:02.000
game is most evil? I can't
well, yeah, Destiny, Destiny the

1129
01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:05.720
crowd going to the crowd leaning in
on Destiny here. Yeah, I think

1130
01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:10.880
any game that keeps you coming back
for hundreds of hours and does not offer

1131
01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:15.720
anything of substance in return. I
played will like look like I don't want

1132
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:18.840
to like. Look, we're a
video game website. Once on some level

1133
01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:24.800
we are reliant on video games being
successful to continue having a livelihood. But

1134
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:30.119
I'm gonna stop you there. No
video game has anything meaningful after you spend

1135
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:33.439
hundreds of hours on it. I
agree, there's there's they're all. They're

1136
01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:36.600
all evil in that sense. I'm
talking about the ones that people will spend

1137
01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:40.119
like thousands of hours on. Like
at a certain point, it's like,

1138
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:42.319
Okay, you've seen the content,
you know what this game is. You're

1139
01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:45.479
not getting anything out of this.
Like again, when you said the thing

1140
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:47.399
about Doda, like, oh,
you gotta play a thousand hours to like

1141
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:49.600
know what you're doing, It's like, fuck that it was only a hundred.

1142
01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:53.880
Come on, you set a thousand
about this. You set a thousand.

1143
01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:56.720
No, I didn't. When we
did a upf and you hit your

1144
01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:59.600
thousand hours, you're like, okay, now like a thousand hours. Oh

1145
01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:01.720
dude, oh that's awesome. No, the real metchhor you care about his

1146
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:06.399
games played? Let me not,
yes, hats purchased, yes, yeah

1147
01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:11.359
uh yeah. So so in some
sense, all video games are the most

1148
01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:15.640
evil. But I think we can
probably say Destiny and Doda. I played

1149
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:29.800
four hours of Destiny this morning.
It's my girlfriend's birthday. Happy birth No,

1150
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:31.000
we don't know the rights, we
don't know the rights. We can

1151
01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:35.640
I'm sorry, you can't tell you. All right, Happy birthday, to

1152
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:48.439
you party time. It's a birthday
for a family and it's time to go

1153
01:13:49.640 --> 01:13:59.399
too bad? Should we should we
take some people question? Yeah, let's

1154
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:02.199
raise your hand if you got some
questions over here? All right, I

1155
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:05.640
just want you come up to this
microphone here, grab this microphone off the

1156
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:08.960
stand. There was a microphone in
that stands. It's right, okay,

1157
01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:11.840
it's right over there. All right. Uh, pick up that microphone and

1158
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:15.319
let's talk. Let's break it down. Let's chop it up. Yeah.

1159
01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:20.960
Hello, you can't you can't stand
behind stand in the light. It gives

1160
01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:26.760
you like a christ like vibe.
Yes, father, Yeah, of course

1161
01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:30.560
you do. Hello. Hello,
names Jeff? What is yours? I'm

1162
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:32.800
Luke. Hello Luke, nice to
meet you. Uh. This is my

1163
01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:40.039
first time listening to a bomb cast
drunk and it's pretty great. But you

1164
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:43.640
are us. It's the first my
first time recording one sober so so yeah.

1165
01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:48.199
Uh so, you guys played the
Mega Man Legacy collection recently, and

1166
01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:51.479
it's a question that I've actually always
had for you guys, is what would

1167
01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:57.760
your Mega Man villain name be?
Ghurst Man? Yeah? Well, yours

1168
01:14:57.840 --> 01:15:01.359
makes sense absolutely, it's done.
Yeah, I mean yeah. My Twitter

1169
01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:06.000
profile was Shoeman for like a year, so yeah, totally uh yeah,

1170
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:16.399
normal man, smart meat Ball,
Meatball man. Nope, just meat Ball.

1171
01:15:16.760 --> 01:15:19.439
That's a mega man X boss.
That doesn't count. He's a center

1172
01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:23.479
square okay, all right, he's
like a doctor Wiley Villa and he's like

1173
01:15:23.479 --> 01:15:26.640
the Yellow Death. Hey listen,
they want to know something, Meatball.

1174
01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:31.319
Don't play by the rules. All
right. He flings coins at you,

1175
01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:35.560
but don't worry. The coins are
graded. That was my question. All

1176
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:40.159
right, you thank you? All
right? Who we got? There's one

1177
01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:45.479
of you. Yeah, it's a
come up and let's wrap. Let's really

1178
01:15:45.520 --> 01:15:48.000
break it down here real I had
twenty minutes of table material, but the

1179
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:51.840
Macarroys stole it all earlier. They
got up here first. They didn't steal

1180
01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:55.960
it is parallel on the table.
The side thing is awkward, though.

1181
01:15:56.079 --> 01:16:00.039
You're right, yeah, you're just
this like a theory, real like being

1182
01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:05.119
voice and just like yes, take
me. So previously, you guys have

1183
01:16:05.239 --> 01:16:10.119
talked about playing games as kids and
kind of like getting one game for a

1184
01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:12.840
while that you kind of just sunk
a bunch of hours into, and so

1185
01:16:13.319 --> 01:16:15.960
nostalgic kicks in a game that I've
never heard anybody talk about. It was

1186
01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:20.079
an N sixty four game called Hybrid
Heaven, and as a kid, I

1187
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:25.560
absolutely love this game and I've never
played it since. Did you guys ever

1188
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:28.600
play it? Yes? I think
I reviewed Hybrid he What did you think?

1189
01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:32.159
It's not a great kind of It
was one of those one of the

1190
01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:35.560
few games that was trying to do
like cut scenes and full voice over stuff

1191
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:40.239
on the sixty four, which is
a terrible fucking idea. Yeah, it

1192
01:16:40.359 --> 01:16:43.960
was no good. Thanks, Yes, I appreciate that. It's it's that

1193
01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:45.079
that thing was. That thing was
a rough piece of business, and the

1194
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:47.399
only thing I remember about it is
that, like it was one of those

1195
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:50.520
reviews that people were super pissed off
about because it was trying to do so

1196
01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:54.159
much. There were some people,
like you know that only had an N

1197
01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:56.800
sixty four that got it. They
were just like, this is a cinematic

1198
01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:00.600
masterpieces have been waiting for. It's
our metal gear. It's our metal gear,

1199
01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:01.880
right exactly. It's just like,
no, no, it's totally not.

1200
01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:06.720
Sciphon Filter is your is everyone's metal
gear sixty four? No, but

1201
01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:13.640
sci Filter's everyone's metal gear. It's
the real metal gear solid win Back Yeah,

1202
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:18.159
No, win Back's another another one
of those where you're just like spy

1203
01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:23.119
fiction. Oh god, all right, next way to yeah you have a

1204
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:27.800
question. There a four point one
for iberd Evan. That sounds generous.

1205
01:17:29.960 --> 01:17:32.399
It was a weird scale back then
though. Yeah, science went into it

1206
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:35.319
as opposed to just like what was
in here, So well, yeah,

1207
01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:40.319
you plug in the numbers. So
this question is for Brad. I used

1208
01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:44.319
to have long hair, and I
used to okay, doubt put up the

1209
01:17:44.359 --> 01:17:45.640
palm aid and all that. Sure, I wonder what kind of palmade you

1210
01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:49.760
wear in your hair. It's American
crew, American crew. You gotta step

1211
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:56.319
up that game, jeez man,
like you gotta get some Murray Man,

1212
01:17:57.079 --> 01:18:01.640
you gotta get some like I'm new
to the game here, Please be gentle.

1213
01:18:01.720 --> 01:18:04.600
It's now mail some to you.
Can you break it down for me,

1214
01:18:04.760 --> 01:18:09.079
like what would what would stepping it
up? What would it do to

1215
01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:11.520
what he's got because people seem to
like what he's got. No, it

1216
01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:15.359
would look it would look like what
he's got it we're talking and we're talking

1217
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:18.920
medium hold, high hold, Like
what's the sheen like? So here's an

1218
01:18:18.920 --> 01:18:21.680
American crew to finding paste over here? Honestly, I mean, hey,

1219
01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:29.479
glad, you want to know what
I use American crew shit, all right,

1220
01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:33.399
we need to step it up fast. So like what I used to

1221
01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:36.399
use. It used to like you
know, you could run a comb through

1222
01:18:36.439 --> 01:18:40.199
it again to day, but it
would also hold a nice hold. If

1223
01:18:40.239 --> 01:18:43.439
it gets hot though it kind of
melt, but you know it's not It

1224
01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:45.960
probably doesn't get too hot here now
when you talk about like like when your

1225
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:48.840
hair was long, are we talking
like my hair? It used to be

1226
01:18:49.159 --> 01:18:51.800
you had a fade, so you
shaved the side. You were like a

1227
01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:55.680
metal drummer. You're a heavy metal
drummer. I had a fad u palmade

1228
01:18:55.720 --> 01:18:59.000
back and then suddenly sometimes ay said, I had a pompador in the front.

1229
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:03.439
Okay, on the side fade or
a taper, there's difference. And

1230
01:19:03.560 --> 01:19:06.800
then so I would I would,
you know, get it kind of damp

1231
01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:10.800
and then you put the palm maide
in have a nice hole throughout the day,

1232
01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:14.439
and then it would wash out at
night. See that's it's but but

1233
01:19:14.560 --> 01:19:16.039
how did you go long enough to
where it was like in the back you

1234
01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:19.560
were like literally like sometimes I need
a pony tail. I mean I could,

1235
01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:21.760
I mean one time I did,
like the bun on top of my

1236
01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:25.119
girlfriend's like no, no, no
again, no no no, she wasn't

1237
01:19:25.159 --> 01:19:27.680
about that. That was the one
time I grew my hair out, Like

1238
01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:30.079
I started growing it out long and
then like at some point I'd died the

1239
01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:35.640
front of it red because we had
been drinking. Yeah and uh, and

1240
01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:40.399
it was like everything was going fine, and then there was an animated gift

1241
01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:43.039
of like there was some video we
shot. This was like back in the

1242
01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:45.840
game Spot days where I was like
checking my head back and forth, and

1243
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:47.479
it's just like I saw what it
looked like because I had been kind of

1244
01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:50.079
trimmed asides and it was like a
kind of mushroomy kind of thing. And

1245
01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:56.439
it's like I saw like heavy metal
drummer pony like tight tight tight ponytail shaved

1246
01:19:56.520 --> 01:19:59.560
sides in my future with where the
hair was going. And I went out

1247
01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:00.159
and got a hair like two days
after that, I was like, oh

1248
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:02.359
fuck this, I'm out. I'm
out, I'm out my mine. I

1249
01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:05.840
used to, you know, keep
it kind of trimmed on topic but a

1250
01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:09.840
little bit longer than brawds, but
okay, good to know. Also,

1251
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:12.399
Dan, what are you looking forward
to tomorrow? What match are you looking

1252
01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:16.079
forward to the most oh and added
champions uh Boy, Seth and Seena seemed

1253
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:19.279
to work together well. And do
you think right back will hurt Kevin Owens?

1254
01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:24.119
I sure hope not. Okay,
Kevin Owens to win that? Yeah,

1255
01:20:24.119 --> 01:20:28.199
I know, oh yeah, I've
got a solution for all of you.

1256
01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:34.279
Here it is. I've found great
success with this uh and I think

1257
01:20:34.319 --> 01:20:38.279
that there's something that you know you
could deploy it in your lives and see

1258
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:46.239
great, great results. Stop fucking
watching wrestling, JEP. That would bring

1259
01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:51.279
down the number of things I understand
by fifty percent. I think of it

1260
01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:58.159
as creating room for new understanding.
I'm good with the video games and wrestling

1261
01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:00.960
thing is stuck with me pretty well
since I was like eight years old.

1262
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.600
I don't want to change that.
Now. I can't go all video games,

1263
01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:05.239
I can't go all wrestling. I
want to keep that fifty fifty balance.

1264
01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:10.239
What if we were to tell you
about coins, Oh, go on

1265
01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:15.960
at great length please. Time has
a fantastic history. It's just the old

1266
01:21:16.039 --> 01:21:24.159
Eisenhour dime. I'm all right.
He was Barry was for fun. That's

1267
01:21:24.199 --> 01:21:27.720
where old he came from. Old
Eisenhower. They used to have called it

1268
01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:31.760
the bedrock of their Union. That's
what I called it. H there's the

1269
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:35.279
Mercury Dime go on, and then
there's the Roosevelt Time. That's it.

1270
01:21:35.479 --> 01:21:41.000
Okay, time's gonna suck. Yeah, No, I dropped dimes a long

1271
01:21:41.079 --> 01:21:43.239
time ago. Let's go. You
do your question there, all right,

1272
01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:45.279
Let's try and get these two questions
out here, and then we actually have

1273
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:47.479
to wrap it up. You guys, we'll be we'll be hanging around.

1274
01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:50.239
We can talk a little bit after. Hi. Hey, I've been a

1275
01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:53.960
fan since like the Game Spot days
when you were first starting out on the

1276
01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:57.239
Hotspot, and so over the year, I've heard a lot of stories from

1277
01:21:57.319 --> 01:22:00.279
Jeff and particular about like working with
other employe's back then, like with Ryan

1278
01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:05.039
Davis and whatnot. And someone i'd
heard you, I've heard you know,

1279
01:22:05.119 --> 01:22:10.399
you see that you got along well
with was Ryan McDonald and I. And

1280
01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:13.840
since I guess I don't know,
he doesn't work at game Spot anymore,

1281
01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:15.359
right, and he's moved on,
But like, did you ever have any

1282
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:18.840
like interesting stories to tell about him, like being in there with him during

1283
01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:25.399
the game Spot days days or anything
like that. I mean Ryan McDonald for

1284
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:28.960
those don't know, he ran all
the video production stuff on game Spot for

1285
01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:30.119
a lot of years. He and
I both started there in ninety six.

1286
01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:34.039
Uh and uh when you know,
and I knew him since we were both

1287
01:22:34.079 --> 01:22:39.119
sixteen. Yeah, yeah, and
uh and yeah he was doing strategy guides,

1288
01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:42.199
so he was like he was,
you know, off chewing tobacco and

1289
01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:45.439
playing Super Mario sixty four, just
spitting in cups, riding down how to

1290
01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:49.319
get stars to build these strategy guides
while I was off reviewing games and not

1291
01:22:49.520 --> 01:22:55.439
chewing tobacco. And uh yeah,
No, we got up to a lot

1292
01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:59.279
of like pretty good high jinks over
the years. But I will tell you

1293
01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:03.880
a recent Ryan McDonald's story that maybe
tops all of them. Okay, he

1294
01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:09.039
flew a drone over the White House
and got arrested by the Secret Service earlier

1295
01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:14.880
this year, and then he posted
about it on Facebook. Yeah yeah,

1296
01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:16.760
like he put again, I just
saw something from face on Facebook from him

1297
01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:19.119
there was like, hey, just
you know, hey, here's your PSA,

1298
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:23.159
don't fly drone over the White House. It's illegal. And I was

1299
01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:25.520
like, well, that's a weird
thing to post. And then never thought

1300
01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:28.239
about it again. And then someone
else that we worked with years ago,

1301
01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:31.439
I was like, did you hear
about Ryan fucking Secret Service attack on him.

1302
01:23:34.159 --> 01:23:38.720
So yeah, he was flying like
a camera drone, an unmanned vehicle

1303
01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:43.319
over in Washington, DC, which
is apparently apparently very against the law.

1304
01:23:43.439 --> 01:23:45.920
Restricted airspace, restricted airspace. He
did very different fence than ever since.

1305
01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:48.399
He loved Game Spot. Yeah,
no, it's like when he when I

1306
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:50.039
got out of a Game Spot,
he was just like, fuck it,

1307
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:53.399
man, all bets are of Actually
you know, that's no, that's not

1308
01:23:53.479 --> 01:23:55.760
that different. That's not that different. Like if he had been a Game

1309
01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:58.680
Spot, he would have been trying
to fly drones over E three. Like

1310
01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:01.079
he was responsible for a lot of
the like let's make E three coverage like

1311
01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:05.159
one step crazier this year, Like
let's strap backpacks to people and have them

1312
01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:10.479
run around the show floor live with
live streaming backpacks back when that wasn't actually

1313
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:14.119
barely possible, and stuff like that. Like he was. He's a hustler,

1314
01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:16.159
yeah, absolutely, always pushing the
envelope, trying to figure out ways

1315
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:19.640
to get shit done. Yeah.
Yeah, like I never like Vinnie worked

1316
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:23.840
under him, Yeah for a little
bit there at Game Spot. Yeah,

1317
01:24:23.880 --> 01:24:27.479
he's a hard working man. Yeah, remember hearing there was some story about

1318
01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:30.560
you and him, snuck into like
an adult film convention or something like.

1319
01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:32.359
Yeah, I mean, you know, so back before E three was the

1320
01:24:32.439 --> 01:24:34.880
Video Game Convention, there was a
whole separate thing that was like part of

1321
01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:39.079
CES. So you would go out
to the consumer electronics show, and part

1322
01:24:39.119 --> 01:24:43.880
of the consumer electronics was videotapes,
and part of videotapes was pornography. So

1323
01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:47.199
we were sixteen wearing like our like
sports coats, trying to look like adults.

1324
01:24:47.399 --> 01:24:49.279
I mean it was just like Buckshot
act and He's just like, no

1325
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:51.960
one's gonna fucking believe it. Whatever, we got done, and like met

1326
01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:57.159
met pornography celebrities. Uh. And
then similarly, you know, met Razor

1327
01:24:57.279 --> 01:25:00.119
Ramone, uh, you know at
a different video video dealer convention, and

1328
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:03.079
that was pretty cool, too nice. There's that I will say that.

1329
01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:09.359
Uh, you guys can back me
up on this there. That game's about

1330
01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:14.319
live crew could take on a couple
of grizzlies. They were yeah, they

1331
01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:18.399
were savage, they were they were
they could get anything done with zero equipment

1332
01:25:18.439 --> 01:25:23.640
and zero budget, uh and figure
out ways too. Live bunch of guys.

1333
01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:28.039
Yeah yeah, like a tough crew
of like and just those guys could

1334
01:25:28.199 --> 01:25:30.520
drink all right, let's take our
our last question there. You had won

1335
01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:36.479
there and we will h This question
is for Vinny First. John, my

1336
01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:42.800
name is John. I thought Contradiction
was one of the greatest series you guys

1337
01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:45.479
have done. That was really something
else. But it got really crazy when

1338
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:51.319
the cast emailed in recordings and was
clearly watching you guys play, and I

1339
01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:56.159
was wandering to that just weird you
out or like affect your kind of commentary

1340
01:25:56.199 --> 01:25:59.439
of the game. Uh. You
know, that is a really good question

1341
01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:03.239
because sometimes you want to try and
operate in a bubble right of like oh,

1342
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:06.439
we're doing this stuff, or like
we're goofing and all of a sudden,

1343
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:10.479
somebody pokes a hole in that bubble
and it's like I'm on the other

1344
01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:15.840
end of this and I've made that
thing and like I don't I don't hear

1345
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:18.640
anything. But those guys were super
nice, uh, and it was great,

1346
01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:21.479
But like, while we're in the
middle of recording it, it's weird.

1347
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:26.720
It is weird to interact in that
way because you don't want it to

1348
01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:30.279
affect it. You definitely don't want
it to have that seed in your mind

1349
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:32.279
of like, oh, what I'm
saying right now is good. You know,

1350
01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:36.720
we are savaging parts of this product
or not or not for yeah,

1351
01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:41.600
or or like we're being nice because
other people are are listening, or you

1352
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:45.960
know, you don't want that in
there, and so, you know,

1353
01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:47.800
I think we kind of tried to
avoid as much as it as we could

1354
01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:53.199
while we were recording it, but
then afterward watched a bunch of it and

1355
01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:55.279
it was hilarious. It's really it
was really funny. They had a great

1356
01:26:55.319 --> 01:27:00.680
sense of humor. But yeah,
it is that can be a little weird.

1357
01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:03.319
It's kind of weird. I wish
it weren't, but uh, it's

1358
01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:08.039
something that you know, we're still
We've talked about this a bunch. It's

1359
01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:13.039
like that editorial right, Yeah,
it's like we're in this Yeah, we're

1360
01:27:13.079 --> 01:27:15.640
in this thing where we're like,
you know, trying to render you know,

1361
01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:18.479
meaningful opinions and trying to be an
editorial outlet along the way. And

1362
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:23.000
then like everything is kind of headed
in this very kind of entertainment driven direction

1363
01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:25.399
and you know, like whatever,
we have fun as well, but we're

1364
01:27:25.439 --> 01:27:28.600
like we're trying to keep the core
of it, uh sound, We're trying

1365
01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:30.359
to keep the core of it,
like you know, trustworthy, trustworthy,

1366
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:34.600
yeah, and and as a result, like you know, there's like big

1367
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:38.239
fun opportunities that were just like,
no, we can't do that because that's

1368
01:27:38.239 --> 01:27:41.720
super shady, or like you know, like I can't go host a PAXs

1369
01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:45.640
panel for a publisher because like I
review games or I talk about games in

1370
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:48.039
a review like way, we don't
necessarily review them many games and these days

1371
01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:53.199
and and so it's you know,
we we try to stay on that side

1372
01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:55.960
of the line. Uh. And
yeah, it's it's weird. It could

1373
01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:58.920
be a little weird. And like
you know, I I wish those guys

1374
01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:00.319
the best. I really enjoy their
game. I thought it was awesome,

1375
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:03.800
and I thought they were good sports
about the whole thing. Uh. But

1376
01:28:04.039 --> 01:28:06.680
like and pardon me, wanted to
get out there on Twitter and when I

1377
01:28:06.720 --> 01:28:11.720
saw that stuff and be like,
go buy their fucking game because it's awesome

1378
01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:14.000
and we're playing that. We're playing
it, and we should have a symbiotic

1379
01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:16.479
relationship where like you know, we're
gonna use this thing and that you know,

1380
01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:19.359
they should get something out of it. But that again just is where

1381
01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:23.560
it just gets weird. Uh.
And so all I can say is I

1382
01:28:23.640 --> 01:28:26.880
really enjoyed their game, Like you
know, uh, and I hope they

1383
01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:30.920
have more to come. Yeah,
well we will have more to come on

1384
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:34.560
giant bomb dot com on Tuesday,
when The Giant Bomb Cast returns with a

1385
01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:41.680
regular episode where Brad will assemble the
news stories of the week and okay,

1386
01:28:42.079 --> 01:28:45.600
sure, and what games we've been
playing, which is apparently it's just metal

1387
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:48.079
gear. Like we need to probably
start playing other video games because that segment

1388
01:28:48.159 --> 01:28:53.920
of this show will get fucking boring. Let's get back to destiny. Oh

1389
01:28:54.119 --> 01:28:58.039
god damn. All right, well
now, thanks everyone for coming. We've

1390
01:28:58.039 --> 01:29:09.279
got a lot of Destiny to play. Uh and thanks everyone for coming out,

1391
01:29:09.399 --> 01:29:13.000
all right, and thanks you the
quest. Yeah, thanks to everyone

1392
01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:15.800
for you know, having us come
out. It's been don't see more stuff?

1393
01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:18.159
Yeah, there's stuff. There's other
shows going on. Is like Obama's

1394
01:29:18.199 --> 01:29:30.319
here or something? All right,
hey, Jap. Later on we'll be

1395
01:29:30.399 --> 01:29:32.880
hanging out here a little bit,
but I don't think we're gonna end it

1396
01:29:33.039 --> 01:29:55.199
like anywhere else. Well yeah,
we'll probably around the hotel. Yeah yeah. Relays