WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.240
But here we go three hours.
Today, Jonas knocks in for Rodney on

2
00:00:04.320 --> 00:00:09.160
AM five seventy LA Sports. How's
the show going, Jonas? Which one

3
00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:13.400
Fred? The only one I talk
about? Okay, you mean two pros

4
00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:16.000
and a cup of Joe? Yeah? What other one is there? Well,

5
00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:18.879
there's you know, I have a
little show on Saturdays as well too.

6
00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:21.839
Can I tell you what? What's
that? First? You're the hardest

7
00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:25.800
working man I know because you do
the show Saturday, and it's funny.

8
00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:28.199
I was, And I may have
told you this story in the past.

9
00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:34.880
It was last year driving around and
I turn on and I'm hearing somebody.

10
00:00:34.880 --> 00:00:37.159
I go, man, I think
I know him. God, he's good.

11
00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:40.320
And I listened and then at the
very end I realized it was you.

12
00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.520
I well, I find that hard
to believe, just the the good

13
00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:50.280
part. But yeah, it looks. And also I've talked about this with

14
00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:54.119
Kevin before. You know, this
isn't really work like when you've had like

15
00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:58.359
real jobs and real work that majority
of people have. When you get an

16
00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:02.759
opportunity to do this, I'll never
complain about another opportunity ever. If it

17
00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:06.439
means sleep, if it means sacrifice
in this or whatever, I don't really

18
00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:07.719
look at it as a sacrifice.
It just this is what we do and

19
00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:11.359
we have a good time with it. It's it's why you've been doing it

20
00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:12.680
for as long as you've been doing
it, Like you love what you do.

21
00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:17.280
It's fun when you enjoy doing what. You enjoy work, you enjoy

22
00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:19.000
coming in. You want to come
in as much as possible. So that's

23
00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:21.959
the way I look at it.
Yeah, you know, for me,

24
00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:25.120
it's funny you bring that up first. If you listen to the radio show,

25
00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:26.799
you know that I started in radio. I'm a radio guy at heart.

26
00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:30.840
Yeah. I was a radio guy
that got into TV at the Beast,

27
00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.480
right, No, Jonas, I
didn't start radio with the Beast.

28
00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:40.760
I started radio when I was nineteen
years old in Globe, Arizona. I

29
00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:44.359
was the top forty disc jockey and
I did the play by play of the

30
00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:48.040
local high school teams. So I
started. I started in radio. When

31
00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:49.799
I got to Yuma, I was
rock and roll rogue in every Day ten

32
00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:53.760
to three, another Biscuit from the
Ever Loving up in the Hits, and

33
00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:57.480
I also got to do the play
by play of the Kopa Kings, the

34
00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:00.280
high school football team. That's all
I really wanted, but to be able

35
00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:04.480
to do that, you also had
to do an air shift. So I

36
00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:07.359
had a TV station in Yuma,
and I walked up and I said,

37
00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:09.159
uh, you know, I'm here
every day ten to three doing the show

38
00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:13.120
is rock and Roll Rogan. But
I really like to be on TV and

39
00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:15.199
I'd really like to try out to
be the TV sports guy. Understand I

40
00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:19.759
had no training on anything. None. I was not trained. I had

41
00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:23.360
six months of junior college. And
the guy looked at me and he goes,

42
00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:27.439
uh, what are you nuts?
This is youm Arizona. We don't

43
00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:30.400
let people try out here. And
for a moment, I wish your grin.

44
00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:31.039
Then he looked at me and goes, if you want to be on

45
00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:35.319
your on, that's all I got
on TV. If you want to be

46
00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:37.840
on your on, that's all I
got on television. I got paid five

47
00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.479
dollars a day, and that's what
happened. Yeah, that's so I kept

48
00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:45.599
moving. Look, it's just you
don't nobody gets into this because they're like,

49
00:02:45.639 --> 00:02:47.360
man, I really want to get
rich. You know, that's just

50
00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:51.199
not like you don't you just you
get it because you love it. And

51
00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:53.039
then well, I mean, I'm
sure some people do. Some people look

52
00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:55.759
at that and go listen, it's
worked out, but like you don't.

53
00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:59.639
You're not so like you're really making
anything when you start. You got to

54
00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.360
start the bottom. But through the
journey, it's it's so much fun to

55
00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:06.960
learn, and you learn in a
small market. And what was amazing to

56
00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:10.319
me is that you, like I
always say this when you're in school,

57
00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:13.719
You'll be studying something in school and
you're like, man, when am I

58
00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:15.960
ever going to use this? Like
as I get older? Am I really

59
00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:19.599
gonna need to know how to do
this math equation or this or learn this

60
00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:22.360
subject from history? Am I ever
going to use this in my life?

61
00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:27.039
And I remember early on in radio
having to do everything because at those small

62
00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:30.280
stites, you've got to you got
to do commercials, you've got to know

63
00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:35.120
how to do production, editing,
run the board, all of these things.

64
00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:37.639
And I remember like, in the
process of doing it, going,

65
00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:39.960
man, am I really ever gonna
need to know how to do this?

66
00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:45.919
When I And the more that you
can do, the more people are likely

67
00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:49.439
to hire you because you can fill
more positions. And that's just the way

68
00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:51.680
I always looked at it, is
that you know there may be just a

69
00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.120
part time opening here. But it's
better to have one foot in than two

70
00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:58.199
feet out. It's always been my
philosophy. No, you're absolutely right.

71
00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.039
I mean, you are absolutely right. And also, the more jobs you'll

72
00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:05.120
learn and the more things you understand, that means at a point in time

73
00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:10.360
where you may be supervising people or
making decisions that impact others, you can't

74
00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:13.800
be fooled, right because you would
never ask anyone to do anything you haven't

75
00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.519
done yet. You would never ask
anyone to try anything that you didn't try,

76
00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:19.839
and you would know the result.
So I mean all of that is

77
00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:24.920
valuable, and actually it's valuable in
any walk of life. This thing I'm

78
00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:30.639
doing in the desert, you know, I don't have a burning, undying

79
00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.720
desire to still do television. I
really don't. I've done it and it

80
00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:36.199
was great and I had the best
time, and I'm the luckiest guy in

81
00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:40.160
the world. The billboard is sweet, by the way, but that wasn't

82
00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:46.279
a real billboard that was created by
sort of a news paper out here that

83
00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:51.160
does everything with these caricatures. So
when I came here, it wasn't about

84
00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:55.279
I had to be on. It
really wasn't. Because I'm blessed I'm the

85
00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:58.120
luckiest guy you'll ever meet. And
at my core, I'm a radio guy.

86
00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:00.000
And this is what I wanted to
do when I left Channel four,

87
00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.000
but what they allowed me to do
here Jonas and you you did Going Rogan

88
00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:09.319
and also had a stint on The
Aborted Challenge, but you did, but

89
00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:14.759
you know you did Going Rogan,
and those were all shows that I created,

90
00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:18.839
that that I produced, And my
deal in television was always I want

91
00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:23.279
to produce things. I want to
create things, and you know that about

92
00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:29.240
me, and out here I'm given
that opportunity. So I've created a news

93
00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:34.160
product that kind of looks like Going
Rogan for news, and I'm having a

94
00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:39.160
ball doing it. We're trying things, we're experimenting. We have funny elements

95
00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:43.399
in some work, some don't.
It's also you get to a certain point

96
00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.800
where what you are is what you
are. And I got to a certain

97
00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:48.120
point where I was like, you
know what, I don't think I'm ever

98
00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:51.560
going to retire. I like,
I can't imagine myself just being like you

99
00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:56.160
don't think I'm gonna go play around
the golf today. I just I don't

100
00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:59.000
have I just don't have that.
I've got to be I'm like you,

101
00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:01.399
I got to be doing something.
Then I got to be productive. I

102
00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:05.560
got to be creative. If I'm
not, I feel like I'm wasting away

103
00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:11.959
that part of what I love about
this and just life. And you know,

104
00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.920
I realize. I mean, it
could be calling minor league games somewhere

105
00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:18.800
in the middle of nowhere when i'm
you know, whatever age I'm at.

106
00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:23.360
But I've got to be doing something
in the business. So it doesn't surprise

107
00:06:23.480 --> 00:06:26.600
me. Even though maybe you don't
have a burning desire to do it,

108
00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:29.680
it's what you do. Fred,
that's why you're the dean. Well you

109
00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.560
know what, Well, thank you, But the thing is just fun and

110
00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:36.199
that's what people, you know don't
understand. And you pointed it out,

111
00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:40.800
I thought, in a very articulate
manner. When you do this every day,

112
00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:44.319
it's fun. Every day you look
forward to doing this. And we're

113
00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:46.160
not all that fortunate with our jobs. We try to make the most out

114
00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:49.319
of them and get the most joy
we can out of them. But I

115
00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:53.279
mean, Jonas is blessed. I'm
fortunate, Rodney, anybody that does this

116
00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:57.160
for a living, Petrose, Matt, we're really lucky. And I think

117
00:06:57.199 --> 00:07:01.600
we all appreciate that because we get
to do something and basically play every day.

118
00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:04.920
Is it work, Sure it is. Do we invest time and effort

119
00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:09.120
into trying to do the best show
we can, Absolutely, But at the

120
00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:13.199
end of the day, it's just
it's fun. It's fun to do it,

121
00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:15.399
and we're blessed and fortunate they have
that opportunity. And it's fun when

122
00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:20.360
you get to when you hear people
that you know, Like I texted Kevin.

123
00:07:20.399 --> 00:07:24.680
I was driving around on New Year's
Day, I think it was,

124
00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:27.920
and I heard Kevin doing a show
on the radio, and I'm like,

125
00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:30.959
oh, this is awesome. You
know, like there's like there's too too

126
00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:34.759
many people get caught up in the
in the negative competitiveness of a lot of

127
00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:41.040
things that either social media or the
media in general have to offer. Like

128
00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:46.560
I get excited when I hear people
get an opportunity to do something, because

129
00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:49.480
I know how excited I was when
I first got an opportunity or I got

130
00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:53.680
an opportunity to do something, and
so I put myself in their shoes,

131
00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:57.360
going that's awesome, good for them, And so you know, we just

132
00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:00.759
rally around each other. Fred And
that's the other thing too. You support

133
00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.959
group here, you really do root
for everybody. Yeah, really root for

134
00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:09.279
everybody in the business. You want
everybody to enjoy themselves and have success.

135
00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:13.240
I'll raise the curtain a little bit. I have brought up I think we

136
00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:15.480
should have Kevin on the air here, and I think we should have him

137
00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:20.079
one more. I've had those conversations
with Yeah, nobody listens to me,

138
00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.480
but I've had those conversations because I
believe that, because I believe if you

139
00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.959
work hard, you should You've earned
an opportunity to have a shot. So

140
00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:35.000
I'm thrilled when Kevin does FSR the
updates. We all root for each other.

141
00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.879
We do, except there was a
period of time I wasn't exactly rooting

142
00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:43.559
for you. Now I'm rooting for
you again. You know, I'm looking

143
00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:46.559
at the timelines, Fred, and
I can kind of guess when that was,

144
00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.720
you know, I a feeling I
can guess when that was h and

145
00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:54.759
listen that we're here now, Hey, you know what it is, what

146
00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:56.120
it is, and it was what
it was, Yes it was, Fred,

147
00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:01.360
Yes, it was an upward we
go and only a couple of bridge

148
00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:05.440
burden on the way. You know, that's all. There's who got hurt?

149
00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.639
What the hell? Who got hurt
and all of that. Certainly there

150
00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:22.960
was no shrapeld. Certainly no one
got hurting that. Oh man, Well,

151
00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:26.000
you know, it feels like some
other people got hurt, Fred,

152
00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.600
It feels like we got some other
people that got hurt. You know.

153
00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:31.840
Well, you know what, everybody
did what they needed to do. Everybody

154
00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:33.720
had a good time and that's all
that matters. Yeah, well, let's

155
00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:37.240
put it like this. Everybody had
a time. Yeah. Well, listen,

156
00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:43.360
we're all here. We made it
everybody. Yeah, So I want

157
00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.360
to talk about this off. We're
gonna have Jim Harbaugh on here his news

158
00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:48.279
conference at one o'clock. Let's let's
get to that in a second, Jonas.

159
00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:54.919
But we got word that Anthony Davis
and Lebron James are out for the

160
00:09:54.960 --> 00:10:01.200
game tonight in Boston, nationally televised
game and obviously an important game for the

161
00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.799
Lakers as they continue to try to
fight their way out of the malaise in

162
00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:11.039
which they're in. Anthony Davis has
a left hip spasm and Lebron James has

163
00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:16.399
got the ankle. That could not
be worse news that could not be worse

164
00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:20.720
because the way the team was constructed
originally, if you lost one of them

165
00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.840
or even both of them. Given
the depth of the roster, you'd be

166
00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.840
okay because you knew those guys would
come to play. But you know you

167
00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:35.679
have Christian Wood textingll before games and
D'Angelo Russell, would the real D'angela Russell

168
00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:41.360
please stand up? And the guys
that you were counting on, counting on

169
00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:45.559
for depth with this roster have been
a bit inconsistent, granted banged up,

170
00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:48.960
yet inconsistent. And now you find
yourself where you're at now. I believe

171
00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:54.200
they're going to make the playoffs,
play in, get in. They'll be

172
00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:58.960
there, They're too good not to. But I start to have concerns now

173
00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.799
about how deep they can go because
I really thought they could make a deep

174
00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:07.440
run this year. Losing a D
and Lebron at the same time for a

175
00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:13.639
game like this, it's kind of
a double whammye and it is also not

176
00:11:13.679 --> 00:11:16.360
what they need right now well.
And it's also I think last year got

177
00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.240
everybody's hopes up a little bit because
we just assumed we talked about this at

178
00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.200
the time, and I think we
talked about it earlier this year, where

179
00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:28.000
you didn't look at last season as
a whole, you look at last season

180
00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:33.720
post trade deadline as one season because
post trade deadline they made the move.

181
00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:37.960
They brought in you know, key
elements, guys that you know performed and

182
00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:41.720
contributed and made a run and were
in the Western Conference Finals. And you

183
00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:46.320
know, the argument for the Lakers
and how close they were was yeah,

184
00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:48.120
they got swept, but it was
a competitive sweep. You know, they

185
00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:52.200
were in those games. They had
an opportunity in those games. And so

186
00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.480
it got everybody's hopes up to where
you thought, Okay, finally they found

187
00:11:54.480 --> 00:12:01.200
it. They've found something. It
is not at any point this year seemed

188
00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.519
like it was on like seem like
everything was right, and you can talk

189
00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.440
about the n Season Tournament, gimmick
crap all you want, whatever the NBA

190
00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:11.519
tried to roll out. They won
the n Season Tournament. Who cares.

191
00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:15.080
An hour and a half later,
Darvinham was on the hot seat, like

192
00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.240
it doesn't like none of that even
mattered. It hasn't felt right all year.

193
00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:24.279
People seem frustrated players have underperformed.
The guys who performed well last year

194
00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:31.279
in key moments just haven't. And
I just wonder if we have absolutely seen

195
00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:37.919
the peak of the Lebron James era
in Los Angeles because it feels like teams

196
00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:43.200
around the league are getting younger and
getting deeper, and the Lakers are still

197
00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:48.559
relying on two of their oldest players, if not their oldest players to get

198
00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:52.159
them to the Promised Land, and
their bodies just can't hold up anymore.

199
00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:56.639
And it's just a reality of where
you get to it a certain point.

200
00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.679
And Anthony Davis, it's the same
old story with him, and I just

201
00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:05.440
I wonder if we've seen the peak. And that's just that, okay,

202
00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:07.600
So I got to push back a
little bit, just a little bit on

203
00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:13.080
it. I think Anthony Davis has
had so far his best year as a

204
00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.039
Laker. I think he has grown
and matured. I think he has accepted

205
00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.720
responsibility. I think at times he's
put this team on his back. So

206
00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:24.039
I think he's having a pretty good
year. As for Lebron, I think

207
00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:28.240
it is insane that he's playing as
well as he is at his age.

208
00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.480
And here's the thing. Anybody's going
to get dinged up. Anybody can get

209
00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.240
banged up. I guess from the
opening tap on opening night. You're hurt.

210
00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:39.960
It's just how much you deal with
it. These two have missed fewer

211
00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:43.159
games this year than it had in
the past. So they're playing well.

212
00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:50.279
The issue is everybody else surrounding them. That's where the problem is this year.

213
00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:54.759
And I would have agreed with you
if the season hadn't progressed with the

214
00:13:54.799 --> 00:14:00.320
two of them playing as well as
they had to this point, well as

215
00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:03.080
they had played, I'd say,
well, maybe that's it. But they're

216
00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.879
playing as well as anybody in the
league. Jonas, but the two of

217
00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:09.480
them. But we're not even at
the All Star break, and we've got

218
00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:15.759
injury issues now, like we have
injuries if we have, if we have,

219
00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:20.000
look, Anthony Davis's injuries have been
known throughout the course of his career.

220
00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:22.960
Every year something pops up Lebron James
since he's been to LA, like,

221
00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.360
injuries have become a factor, Like
we can just say it it doesn't

222
00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:30.279
you know, and admire how he's
played at this level. I agree,

223
00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.039
Listen, it's why he's one of
the top two to three players of all

224
00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:35.080
time, if not number one,
depending on who you're arguing with. But

225
00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:37.519
if this were the end of the
season, I'd be like, hey man,

226
00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.039
look, it's the end of the
year. Everybody's banged up, but

227
00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:45.320
we're not even at the All Star
Break, and yet here we are and

228
00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.720
they're what how many games out of
the you know, they're in the play

229
00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:52.240
in spot, but they're they're the
nine seeds, so they're like, what

230
00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.879
ten and a half games. It's
like, you look at it and you

231
00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:58.320
go, okay, But if this
is where we're at and it's just now

232
00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:03.639
February, what the hell is this
gonna look like in May or June,

233
00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:05.559
if they even get to that point, Like, that's my concern. It's

234
00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:09.919
not I don't so much have a
concern about whether or not those guys can

235
00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:13.279
play. I just have a concern
whether or not they're gonna be available oft

236
00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:18.480
enough to play. Like that's my
big issue with it. Okay, And

237
00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:22.320
I hear your concern, and I
think Kevin looked this up a couple of

238
00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:28.440
weeks ago, But this just mat
now now the ankle, I don't know,

239
00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:31.679
but I mean, and the hip. He's had the hip and it's

240
00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:37.639
been nagging and lingering. There's a
difference between guys injured and injury problems.

241
00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:43.120
The Lakers have had injury problems,
but it hasn't been those two guys.

242
00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:48.000
Now they're hurt or now And you're
right, we're not to the All Star

243
00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.720
break. We'll see how it progresses. We'll see how it plays out.

244
00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.159
And I guess if while they were
both healthy and playing exceptionally well, if

245
00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:56.919
the others had performed and they had
opened up a large enough lead, you

246
00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:58.799
go, well, all right,
well, you know, we'll give a

247
00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:02.799
blow here or there, because you
know, we got to save them.

248
00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:07.200
The danger here is this, You're
gonna get to no man's land here at

249
00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:11.000
the All Star break, and then
they're gonna have to play. Yeah,

250
00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.360
that's the danger. They're gonna have
to play. And I also like how

251
00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.000
people get hung up on well,
you know, Lebron James seems really frustrated

252
00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.600
with those around him. Why don't
you copy and paste that every single year

253
00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:26.360
of his career, Like every year
of his career, he's frustrated with those

254
00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.120
ad What do you mean, it's
why you got like David Black got fired,

255
00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:30.679
and how many coaches have been have
been burned through, how many players

256
00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:34.240
have gotten traded? Of course,
this like that, that isn't the concern

257
00:16:34.279 --> 00:16:37.720
for me. It's how this season
progresses for both those guys. And to

258
00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:41.320
your point, you are going to
enter into no man's land and You've got

259
00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:45.519
no choice but to play guys,
and you're again going to have to rely

260
00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:49.840
when everybody thought you were gonna get
contributing pieces and contributing parts from last year

261
00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:55.120
to still play at the same level. You're gonna have to rely on Lebron

262
00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:57.960
James and his age and Anthony Davis
and his injury history to ride them down

263
00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:00.960
the stretch. And I just don't
know if it's gonna happen. I don't

264
00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:06.359
forget one o'clock we will have the
Jim Harball News Conference live and you can

265
00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:08.319
watch the Big Game, you know
what I'm talking about at the Fountain Blue

266
00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:11.039
in Las Vegas, featuring two tickets
to the Big Game, party, two

267
00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.240
nights of Hotel accommodation. So the
Fountain Blue Las Vegas food and beverage credit

268
00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:18.559
and a five hundred dollars gift card
and' out for your chance to win an

269
00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:22.920
A and five somebody La sports dot
com. All right, Jonas, we'll

270
00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.920
get your thoughts on Jim Harball when
we come back. We'll throw back Thursday,

271
00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:32.759
Boston. I like it, Ronnie, Jonas, you rocked out to

272
00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:37.519
this. It's been a long time, oh big time. By the way,

273
00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.799
somebody's asking if you worked with Wolfman
Jack on Twitter, Fred or x

274
00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.759
whatever the hell they're calling it.
Did somebody really do that? Yeah,

275
00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:48.039
they asked, did you work at
Arizona with Wolfman Jack? I don't know

276
00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.920
who Wolfman Jack is? Oh my
god, you don't know who that was?

277
00:17:51.920 --> 00:17:53.400
Seriously? Is that the guy from
teen Wolf? No, it's not

278
00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:57.960
from Team that man. Was that
styles the guy who, uh, you

279
00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:02.000
know, what's his name around on
the top of his van? No,

280
00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:04.720
yeah, he served on the van. Wolfman Jack did a late night overnight

281
00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:08.880
show for years. He was a
top forty jock, and I mean he

282
00:18:10.039 --> 00:18:12.880
was it. And it's so bizarre
you would bring this up, because,

283
00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:18.000
in fact, when I worked at
at wolf Man Jack kind of talk like

284
00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:23.799
this and he had this gravelly voice, and I mean he was as big

285
00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.279
as starring radio as there it was
back in the day. So I go

286
00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:33.440
to Yuma and, uh, the
program director's name is Lee Pool. Oh

287
00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:34.519
waity, I know who this is. I'm sorry, Yes, I know

288
00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:37.319
that. I just look at it, right, Yeah, I know.

289
00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:40.559
So I go to Yuma, of
course, and the program director is Lee

290
00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:44.279
Pool, and he hires me to
do this show from ten to three so

291
00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:48.480
from like seven to midnight, eight
to midnight, Uh, there was a

292
00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:55.359
show on. It wasn't Wolfman Jack. It was Rufus Coyote. I swear

293
00:18:55.400 --> 00:19:00.720
to god, Wolfman Jack was the
guy. But in Yuma had this show

294
00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.880
done by Rufus Coyote. So I
went into Lee Pool and I said,

295
00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:10.240
who is Rufus Coyote? It was
Lee Poole. He changed his voice and

296
00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:15.799
tried to create a Wolfman Jack character, so he would become Rufus Coyote.

297
00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.200
So what were you, rowdy Roddy
Rottweiler. I don't have my machine.

298
00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:22.400
Oh it's just gonna I'm just trying
to get to the bottom of this.

299
00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.000
I want to know who's who here. Yeah, so he was Rufus Coyote,

300
00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:29.279
which was an impersonation of Wolfman Jack. And that's why when you said

301
00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:32.039
that, I started a laugh,
because, yeah, I kind of worked

302
00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:36.799
with a Wolfman Jack Schwartz. Wolfman
Jack Schwartz I worked with because he was

303
00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:41.759
Rufus Coyote, and he did the
exact same thing, and he just changed

304
00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:45.000
his voice and then one day he
decided he didn't want to do that anymore.

305
00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.880
He became Lee Poole. He just
said, Ay, this is Lee

306
00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:51.720
Poole, but yesterday you were Rufus
coyote. He goes, you know I've

307
00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:56.319
changed then he just talked like himself. It's a magical radio Fred. You

308
00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:59.880
know, my first radio job,
my name was they would there were so

309
00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.240
somebody else at the station named Jonas, so I had to go. They

310
00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:07.400
called me j like J Dot Knox
like, well, we don't want to

311
00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.039
confuse the listeners. And I'm looking
around, going what listeners like? I

312
00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:18.240
see the checks two different timeslots man
like, not even not even close to

313
00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:19.319
each other. But okay, so
yeah, I couldn't even get my real

314
00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:23.599
name the first time. It's like, of course, the only place that'll

315
00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:26.279
hire me they already have a Jonas, so you know that's already occupied.

316
00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:30.200
You got to pick up something else. What when you started, did you

317
00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:33.759
work in music radio? No,
it was I always wanted to do sports.

318
00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:37.599
Sports are you know, like some
sort of you know, like a

319
00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:41.359
rock station if they had like an
element of sports slash, you know,

320
00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:45.960
like I always listened to uh,
Kevin and Bean when they are out,

321
00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.079
or I would always listen to you
know, obviously I listened to to Matt

322
00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:52.519
and and uh and Petros and all
that. But yeah, I always wanted

323
00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:55.359
to do sports, but there would
be opportunities that would be out there and

324
00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:56.960
I would have played. No would
be interested, like you just you needed

325
00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.400
reps, you needed And so I
had to leave California to go all the

326
00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:04.400
way to South Carolina in order to
get a real chance. After just interning

327
00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:10.559
and doing whatever I could here,
my first ever assignment on the air was

328
00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:15.960
with another station in town with Jeff
Biggs, formerly of kla C, one

329
00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:19.720
of the great people in the business, who sent me out to a Clippers

330
00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:26.119
game to do call in reports from
the Clippers game. And the first report

331
00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:29.920
I did when I called in to
give an update on the game live from

332
00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.400
then Staples Center, was one of
the worst moments in radio of all time.

333
00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:40.599
I was terrible, I mean dreadful, But I realized at that time

334
00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:44.039
out of the business. Well tole
me that too, But I also at

335
00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:45.319
that point I was so far down
the path and I was stubborn. I

336
00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.079
was like, I'm not getting out
of the business. I knew, all

337
00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:51.759
right, well now I know what
it's like to be awful, so just

338
00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:53.559
don't do that again. And so
I just did the opposite of that That

339
00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.279
was honestly my mindset, and so
from there I got a little bit better

340
00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.599
each time. So you know,
you learn these things, red a few

341
00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.039
tricks. All right, let's talk
Jim Harball. One o'clock we'll have the

342
00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:07.359
news conference. It was the fish
that the Chargers had to catch. Yes,

343
00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:11.559
it was the name they needed.
They needed it for a couple of

344
00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.200
reasons. We pointed them out here
on the air. First of all,

345
00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:18.279
they needed a big name coach.
They need to cement or attempt to submit

346
00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:22.079
a footprint here in Los Angeles.
Uh And just by having good teams that

347
00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:26.200
wasn't enough because the good teams kept
coming up short. I think they also

348
00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:30.480
had to do it because there was
a question, and I can't answer this,

349
00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.359
there was a question of their cash
flow. Can they afford it.

350
00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:38.119
Well, they went out and spent
the money, so they can obviously somehow,

351
00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:42.960
some way afford it. I think
it is a game changing hire for

352
00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:45.559
them. We've got to find out
how the team plays. We've got to

353
00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:51.680
see if it works. But Jonas, it was a game changer. And

354
00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:55.240
I know you have thoughts on Jim
Harball. Look, I love Jim Harbaugh.

355
00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:57.480
I've always been some people call me
the Harball washer. You know,

356
00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:02.039
that's that's been a name that's been
thrown around over my years. I always

357
00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:04.519
defended Jim Harbaugh not exactly a moniker. You want. Well, you know

358
00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:07.200
what, though, now that he's
won a national title, I'll take it,

359
00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:10.839
fred and I will wear that with
like a badge of honor. But

360
00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.720
well, becks Captain t Bag.
Well, somebody's got to do it right.

361
00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.920
Okay, you know it's just you
know, it can't always be uh

362
00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:22.400
you know, well, in never
mind, I'll leave that for another time.

363
00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:26.920
But the point is a big fan
of Jim Harbaugh always like because you

364
00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:30.440
look at his track record, I
could understand it's worked in one place,

365
00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:36.559
but it's worked everywhere, and it's
worked at every level. So whether he

366
00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:40.440
took over at University of San Diego, it worked, he took over Stanford,

367
00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:42.000
it worked. He went to the
Niners, it worked. And these

368
00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:47.599
were all situations that weren't good situations. I mean when he took over for

369
00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:48.960
the Niners and never one points to, well, well, how did it

370
00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:52.200
finish out with San Francisco? Okay, well, he had a falling out

371
00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:55.839
with the front office, Like that's
why he was no longer there, like,

372
00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:59.720
it's why her he burns so hot
that he stays places that was always

373
00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:03.039
not him for a short amount of
time. But when he got to San

374
00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:06.359
Francisco, man, they were talking
about Alex Smith as if he was a

375
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:10.480
bust, first rent, number one
overall pick. They made a mistake.

376
00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:15.960
It's not working. Harbaugh got there. They were in an NFC title game

377
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:19.599
in overtime against the Giants, team
that went on to beat the Patriots in

378
00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:25.240
the Super Bowl that year with Alex
Smith the so and so bust that nobody

379
00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:29.119
could get to work as the number
one pick. Colin Kaepernick took over the

380
00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:30.680
next year, they ended up getting
to a Super Bowl. Like he put

381
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:37.079
together a really good team and they
played really really good football there. He

382
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:40.920
leaves, he goes to Michigan,
they were a disaster. Takes them over.

383
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:42.240
It took a little bit of time
to get over the hump in the

384
00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.720
Big Ten against Ohio Stable. Once
he got there, they were off and

385
00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:49.640
running and never looked back. It's
like, so it'd be one thing if

386
00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.599
like we saw it in one spot. People are optimistic. It's like,

387
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.480
okay, well can he do We've
seen him do it in a bunch of

388
00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.920
different spots. So from that standpoint, love the higher, Love Jim Harbor,

389
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.200
and listen as somebody who grew up
a Chicago Bears fan, he was

390
00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:06.000
like one of the first quarterbacks I
remember for the Bears, like he was

391
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:10.079
one of the first ones. Here's
where I'm a little bit skeptical, where

392
00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:15.400
I don't know anybody who doesn't think
this is a great hire. And normally

393
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:21.880
when everybody's on one side, that's
generally when things go south. I have

394
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.680
not met one person or heard one
person say this is a bad move for

395
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:30.319
the Chargers. I don't like the
move. Everybody looks at this and says

396
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:36.039
the fit justin Herbert. They had
to spend the money. He brings in

397
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:38.319
a big name, you know,
all the all the fun stuff that comes

398
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:42.079
along with it, the chaos,
but he successed. Like I haven't heard

399
00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:48.880
one argument against why this isn't a
great move. He was the biggest name

400
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:52.440
on the open market. He would
would have been the biggest name probably next

401
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:55.519
year on the open market. And
the fact that the Chargers got him,

402
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:57.720
when everybody assumed, to your point, they're going to be cheap, They're

403
00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:00.960
going to butcher this like they I
don't really do. They paid the money

404
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.319
and here he is, and I'm
just a little concerned that when we're all

405
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:08.000
over on this side, things end
up going south the other way. Well,

406
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.359
normally, when everybody is over on
one side, it's because the team

407
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:15.920
has played the name game. Oh
boy, we know that guy. Let's

408
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.920
go get him. He's the guy. Everybody knows him, everybody wants him.

409
00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:22.839
Oftentimes, the guy that everybody knows
is not what he is meant to

410
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:27.119
be and does not perform at the
level in what you hoped he would.

411
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:33.319
But I think in this case,
because it was the name, and I'm

412
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:37.839
absolutely against the name game, but
because he was the name, the biggest

413
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:45.200
name, and a guy with incredible
success wherever he has been, I think

414
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.440
it was the right thing to do. You had to do it, like

415
00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.000
you at this look, you're committed
to Justin Herbert. Financially, he's the

416
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:57.599
guy we know that. You had
to do something to try and instill some

417
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:03.680
sort of hope and optimism him in
this town as the quote unquote little brother,

418
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:07.519
you know, like listen, It's
why when the Clippers went out and

419
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.880
got Kawhi Leonard and Paul George,
it was such a massive deal because the

420
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.960
Lakers had always been the biggest thing
in town, and you looked at it

421
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.640
and said, well, maybe we
can't get to that level of popularity,

422
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.839
but if we can get to that
level of play on the court, that's

423
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.240
gonna go a long way at least. And it's like with the Chargers,

424
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.200
like, look, we may never
get to the level of where the Rams

425
00:27:30.200 --> 00:27:33.119
are at in this town, but
if we can just get to the court,

426
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:36.759
like you know, he's gonna win
games. I just you know,

427
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.400
we've seen it a lot to where
everybody's on one side and then it ends

428
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.160
up flipping on. I'm gonna be
rooting for it. I hope it works.

429
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.279
I love Harbaugh, as I laid
out, as I mentioned, big

430
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.839
fan of Jim Harbaugh, and I'm
just hoping that the injury issues they've had

431
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:56.359
and all the other quote unquote bad
luck that has come along with the Chargers

432
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.599
over the past several years. And
you know, never mind the fact that

433
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.240
you've got to deal with a dynasty
in your own division, which is never

434
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.680
never an easy task in dealing with
the Kansas City Chiefs. But if there

435
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.000
was somebody that could get a team
over the hump and it is the biggest

436
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.240
name on the open market, and
it just so happens to be Jim Harbaugh.

437
00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:15.759
All right, So if you could
pick a coach, I'll give you

438
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:22.680
two choices. Would you pick Jim
or John Harbaugh? Jim and look,

439
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:30.200
John Harbaugh super Bowl champion. But
I've just seen it in more places than

440
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:34.920
I have with John Harbaugh. And
it's why some people will make the argument,

441
00:28:36.599 --> 00:28:41.720
is it more impressive what Belichick did
in New England or more impressive what

442
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:47.480
a guy like Andy Reid or Bill
Parcells has done where they've won in multiple

443
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:52.359
places, where both guys have taken
Super Bowls teams, different teams to Super

444
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:56.759
Bowls and won super Bowls before,
Or is it more impressive to just do

445
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.680
it in one spot. Like all
of it works, all of it is

446
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:06.119
great, But which do you side
on? More? Which is more impressive?

447
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.440
And I just think it's a little
more impressive what Jim Harbu has done

448
00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:11.480
at this point. Yeah, I
agree with that. I think it's much

449
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:15.880
harder to take multiple teams to a
title than to be in one place.

450
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.279
And remember when Belichick was in one
place, he went to the titles with

451
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:25.240
one quarterback. Yeah, he won
with Tom Brady, So I think that

452
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:27.240
was the key for Belichick. Sure
he could coach, but that was the

453
00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:30.599
key. And it's interesting because now
you know all the jobs are full.

454
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:36.519
Dan Quinn got the last one in
Washington. You look at the coaches that

455
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:42.720
did not hook up somewhere. Belichick, Pete Carroll didn't get jobs. Rabel,

456
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.359
Mike Rabel's another big name, but
I think he can coach, and

457
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.960
he's younger than the two of them. You saying agism is playing a role

458
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:52.240
in this thread? Is that what
you're getting at here? You know what's

459
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:56.599
funny? And people suggest that,
well, agism, I don't really buy

460
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.880
that now, maybe because I started
when when I was twenty three, and

461
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:02.799
I'm the age I am now.
I think, well, now I can

462
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.400
still do the same thing. I
really can't, but I think differently than

463
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.279
I did then. I've learned more
than I did then. I still have

464
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:15.519
the same energy as I did then, So I don't think that being a

465
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:19.720
certain age look to be fair.
It comes down to this as a listener,

466
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.920
and no matter what you do or
where you're at in your life,

467
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:29.359
you know there's a day, and
my day is probably closer than yours.

468
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:33.119
Jonas, because I'm a little older. We hit the wall. We just

469
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.119
hit it. We've run as fast
as we can for as long as we

470
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.200
can. We've given it everything we
have, and you hit the wall.

471
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:47.880
Now, that doesn't mean you hit
the wall. If you're sixty two or

472
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:52.599
seventy four, that doesn't mean it. But you hit it because that's just

473
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:57.359
how life works. You just can't
you don't have the energy. It happens

474
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:03.359
to people and shit that because everybody
gets older. So I don't think it's

475
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.759
a question of agism because I don't
think it matters how old you are.

476
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.079
I mean, if you evolve and
grow, you can communicate with anybody.

477
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:14.519
Right, you can be seventy two
but still be able to communicate with young

478
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:15.680
players. So I just find it
interesting where they go, well, he

479
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.519
just doesn't understand how to do that. That has passed him by. No,

480
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.119
what that says is he's not evolved. He's not evolved. He hasn't

481
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:29.319
got to a point where he understands
he must change because life changes, and

482
00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:33.160
to succeed you always must have evolve. And when you don't evolve, you've

483
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.599
hit the wall. I don't know
whus Pete Carroll hit the wall. Has

484
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.920
Bill Belichick hit the wall. I
say Belichick is closer to hitting the wall,

485
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:47.880
and Pete Carroll was geez fred because
he seems inflexible, where Pete Carroll

486
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:53.319
may be very strong in his ways
and convictions, but seems a bit more

487
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:57.319
flexible. I wonder how Pete Carroll
feels about the fact that Seattle went from

488
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:01.079
having the oldest coach in the league
to the youngest in like a month.

489
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:06.599
Like like, imagine dating somebody for
a long time and they say, you

490
00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:08.519
know, it just isn't working out
anymore, and you go, okay,

491
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:12.559
I got it, and then they
end up, like an hour and a

492
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:17.000
half later, was somebody half your
age, literally half your age. You

493
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:20.680
would look around and go, oh, so that's what the problem was.

494
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:23.000
I was just maybe I was just
too old. I wonder if Pete Carroll

495
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:27.160
looks around and goes, so,
wait a second, I'm seventy two.

496
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.680
You hired somebody who was thirty six. This guy's younger than McVeigh, and

497
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:35.200
I've just got to be like,
all right, there was nothing to it.

498
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.799
I just wonder how that lands with
a guy like Pete Carroll, who's

499
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:42.200
uber competitive, who by the way, Pete Carroll was interested in the Chargers

500
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.200
job, as was everybody else,
and the reports out there would say that

501
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:52.440
Ben Johnson. Mark Schlareth reported on
this from Fox that Ben Johnson would have

502
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.799
taken the Chargers job. That's why
he turned down the job in Washington that

503
00:32:55.880 --> 00:33:00.839
Dan Quinn just got because the only
one that he really wanted was the Charger

504
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.839
gig, which goes to show you
the opinion of what a lot of people

505
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.160
have on Justin Herbert just throwing that
out there, Fred, Well, that's

506
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:15.599
fair. But Ben Johnson, Jim
Harball was hired, was hired, So

507
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:21.880
that's not why he turned down the
Charger job. He was already hired.

508
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.319
I mean that. I mean that
was Mark schlairth is reporting it. Look,

509
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:28.200
if you want to attack Stink like
that, then you go right ahead,

510
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.240
Fred, I'm not Look the Desert
Dean and Stink can go at it

511
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:34.000
and have a Donny Brook all they
want. I'm just letting you know that's

512
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.359
what the report said. Well,
all I'm saying is this that, uh,

513
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:43.480
I you know, agism, because
we give everything labels, isn't it

514
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.559
isn't right. It's got an ism
to it now right, it's age ism.

515
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.039
You're too old. I don't know
if you're ever too old and if

516
00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:53.759
people think you are that honestly,
to me, that just is a function

517
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:59.119
of not evolving. And you know
Pete Carroll's of all for a long time,

518
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.920
Carol was the hot ticket. Pete
Carroll could communicate with his players almost

519
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:08.480
better than anyone in the day,
and his players still liked them. But

520
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:14.519
maybe he did not evolve enough.
Now do I think that at this point

521
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.519
would a team hire a seventy two
year old coach? I don't know,

522
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:21.679
you know who. I think it
hurts him now. By the way,

523
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:23.840
you know who just got hired.
This is this is going to be a

524
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:28.480
blast from the past. He just
got hired as a defensive coordinator. I

525
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.519
think it's division It's at a Division
two school. We can look this up.

526
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:37.159
I forget which one it was.
Jerry Glanville. Seriously, Jerry Glanville

527
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:43.239
just got hired as a decordinator.
Who doesn't love Jerry Glanville like he had.

528
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.360
I forget what the detail was.
But he had an obsession with Elvis

529
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:50.679
to where he would always wear black
and I think he would leave two tickets

530
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.880
at will call for Elvis. I
think you're right at every game Like that

531
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:58.159
was a real story to where he
would leave tickets at will call for Elvis

532
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.000
every game. So if you walked
up to a foul like imagine you walk

533
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.880
up to Dodger Stadium, you go
up to will call, and you just

534
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.679
say, yeah, I'm here to
pick up two tickets for Elvis. If

535
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:10.039
Jerry Glanville was in Dave Roberts position, two tickets would be there for you

536
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:15.400
every single Dodger game you go to. How old is Jerry Glanville now?

537
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.239
And he's got to be in his
eighties. Jerry Glanville is eighty two years

538
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:22.280
old and was just hired as the
defensive coordinator at Northwestern Oklahoma State, a

539
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:28.239
real powerhouse too. Yeah, but
you know something, if he truly loves

540
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:32.440
doing it, yes, let him
do it. I agree, that's great.

541
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:38.840
So yeah, Jerry Glanville is back
and Elvis is alive. Yes,

542
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:44.760
Okay, we're gonna have Jim Harbaugh's
news conference at one o'clock. Jerry Glanville

543
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:46.679
has to take an apple. We'd
have his as well. Two years old?

544
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:51.480
What do you expect from him?
I love Jerry Glenn. My best

545
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:55.159
Jerry Glanville story. Falcons are getting
blown out there and he calls it.

546
00:35:55.360 --> 00:36:00.840
They're getting bet like forty one to
nothing, and he calls a timeout with

547
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.840
two seconds left and sends out the
field goal unit so they don't get shut

548
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:12.760
out. All right, when we
come back, let's talk to some Dodger

549
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:17.880
pitt we'll throw back Thursday action.
Let's Stay Together by Al Green. Song

550
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.840
appeared on the seventy two album of
the same name, maintained a number one

551
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:24.079
spot of the Billboard Hot one hundred
charts for three weeks. In February of

552
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:29.199
that year, ranked sixtieth n Rolling
Stones' list of the five hundred Greatest Songs

553
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.719
of All Time, selected by the
Library of Congress as an addition to the

554
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:37.320
National Recording Registry, which selects recordings
annually that are culturally, historically, or

555
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:45.639
esthetically significant. Again today throwback Thursday
edition of Afternoon Delight Let's Stay Together by

556
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:52.159
the Reverend Al Green. Is he
any relation to ac Green? I thought

557
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.559
it was his father? Okay,
what grandfather? What abo Sean Green?

558
00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:01.480
Uncle? Okay? Matter of fact? Read that Al Green, the singer

559
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:07.480
is the uncle of former Dodger Sean
Green. See all ties in together?

560
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:13.960
Sure does yep? An Afternoon Delight? Yeah, Jim Harball. I wish

561
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.719
don right at the top of the
hour, Kevin, we are okay,

562
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.719
so we'll make us the short segments
so we can get back and break for

563
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:23.559
the top of the hour. I'll
do a little Dodger pitching. So well.

564
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:28.320
I mentioned the other day Jim Paxton
originally signed an eleven million dollar deal,

565
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:30.599
and uh, he was going to
be that veteran arm the left hander

566
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:34.760
they bring in, by the way, I was gonna correct you, and

567
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.440
then I realize you're right. It's
James Paxton, so you can call him

568
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:43.840
Jim. Okay, yeah, James, you know, I'm his friend.

569
00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:45.599
I call him Jim. No,
I'm just saying because I think some people

570
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:50.960
might confuse that with the former Chicago
Bull Jim Paxson, you know, and

571
00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:54.960
again that is his brother. Yeah, it's a family of fair Fred.

572
00:37:55.199 --> 00:38:00.079
Yeah. Everything ties together, of
course. So they realized that there were

573
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.440
some physical issues, and his deal
went from eleven to seven million dollars and

574
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.079
still hell, his targets and his
incentives. I think you can make up

575
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.960
to thirteen, but the guaranteed portion
of that is now seven. All right,

576
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.719
Well, you know he's still there
and he's gonna hit seven million bucks

577
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:16.800
and that's not that's not nothing.
But all of a sudden, you sign

578
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:21.920
a guy do you think is going
to perform for you? And now you've

579
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:24.440
reduced the amount of his contract and
his agent of Scott Bores and he was

580
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:29.840
good with that. I don't know
what that says about, you know,

581
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:34.039
how dependable he's gonna be Jonas?
Yeah, why did this just come up

582
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.840
now? Like maybe he had a
second physical or something. Yeah, that's

583
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:42.039
that's what I'm curious about, Like
when when was this not seen early on?

584
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:44.880
And then you're taking a few million
off the top, right, you're

585
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:46.079
right out of the gates, like, okay, well we'll still make this

586
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:50.079
work, but only for this amount, which is you know, I mean

587
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.679
it's nothing to scoff at. I
mean, it's nothing in comparison to what

588
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.199
they've paid this offseason. But yeah, I just I wonder at what point

589
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:59.639
during the process they finally realized,
oh, yeah, we got a problem

590
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.360
here and this needs to be adjusted
and addressed right away. Well, it's

591
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.280
important at this point in time,
given the offseason, the Dodgers had to

592
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.199
pick them apart, because that's what
people need to do. They made all

593
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:13.519
of these moves they've strengthened the club
dramatically. They signed Otani, they got

594
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.840
Yamamoto. But then that leads to, all right, well, now you

595
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.440
see they still have these holes to
plug. You know, they did more

596
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.760
than anybody, more than anybody imaginaball
and you don't know, all right,

597
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:28.199
well that was good. But if
there is a butt, and it has

598
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.400
been the butt from the beginning,
it's starting pitching. Yes, do you

599
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:37.960
have enough starting pitching? I think
they do. Personally, I think they

600
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.559
do. Yeah. Look, and
this is all going to come down to

601
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:45.719
the same as it's the same as
last year. But the problem nobody was

602
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:51.880
surprised by whatever struggles they had or
were going to have on the mound in

603
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.079
the postseason, like they were surprised
by the bats in the postseason, most

604
00:39:55.119 --> 00:40:00.920
notably Freddy Freeman and Mookie Bets.
That was the real surprise. And yeah,

605
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.760
we're trying to find a flaw with
this team because at a certain point

606
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.599
it's going to be kind of a
redundant radio show where it's like, Hey,

607
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.960
the Dodgers beat so and so fifteen
to four last night, you know,

608
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.679
show, Hey Otani did this.
This is always going to be the

609
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:19.039
question mark and You've got to see
how it plays out. I'm sure they'll

610
00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:21.960
make a move or two at the
deadline. But yeah, I look at

611
00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:24.519
it and I go, it's not
like they're rolling out, you know,

612
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:29.840
a bunch of dead bodies, you
know, five games in a row saying

613
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:31.760
hey go give a six inning strong
please? Who can get to the bullpen?

614
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.320
I mean, yeah, they've got
guys. There's some question marks,

615
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.239
but that's going to be the fun
part about this season. You're going to

616
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:43.559
get to learn how great this team
is. The questions at the plate aren't

617
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.760
going to be the problem. It's
going to be all the questions on the

618
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:49.760
mound. And this is just another
one. It's just interesting that this wasn't

619
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:52.639
seen initially and this so now we
get a monitor this as we as we

620
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.880
go through the entire season. Yeah, and the season starts sooner than you

621
00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.039
think. Okay, let's take a
break right now because we do have to

622
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:05.960
get back for the top of the
Jim Harball news conference one o'clock, Chargers

623
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.719
introduced. Harrball will be taking copious
notes. Look forward to some of the

624
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.760
things he has to say. Let's
keep track of it.

