But here we go three hours. Today, Jonas knocks in for Rodney on
AM five seventy LA Sports. How's the show going, Jonas? Which one
Fred? The only one I talk about? Okay, you mean two pros
and a cup of Joe? Yeah? What other one is there? Well,
there's you know, I have a little show on Saturdays as well too.
Can I tell you what? What's that? First? You're the hardest
working man I know because you do the show Saturday, and it's funny.
I was, And I may have told you this story in the past.
It was last year driving around and I turn on and I'm hearing somebody.
I go, man, I think I know him. God, he's good.
And I listened and then at the very end I realized it was you.
I well, I find that hard to believe, just the the good
part. But yeah, it looks. And also I've talked about this with
Kevin before. You know, this isn't really work like when you've had like
real jobs and real work that majority of people have. When you get an
opportunity to do this, I'll never complain about another opportunity ever. If it
means sleep, if it means sacrifice in this or whatever, I don't really
look at it as a sacrifice. It just this is what we do and
we have a good time with it. It's it's why you've been doing it
for as long as you've been doing it, Like you love what you do.
It's fun when you enjoy doing what. You enjoy work, you enjoy
coming in. You want to come in as much as possible. So that's
the way I look at it. Yeah, you know, for me,
it's funny you bring that up first. If you listen to the radio show,
you know that I started in radio. I'm a radio guy at heart.
Yeah. I was a radio guy that got into TV at the Beast,
right, No, Jonas, I didn't start radio with the Beast.
I started radio when I was nineteen years old in Globe, Arizona. I
was the top forty disc jockey and I did the play by play of the
local high school teams. So I started. I started in radio. When
I got to Yuma, I was rock and roll rogue in every Day ten
to three, another Biscuit from the Ever Loving up in the Hits, and
I also got to do the play by play of the Kopa Kings, the
high school football team. That's all I really wanted, but to be able
to do that, you also had to do an air shift. So I
had a TV station in Yuma, and I walked up and I said,
uh, you know, I'm here every day ten to three doing the show
is rock and Roll Rogan. But I really like to be on TV and
I'd really like to try out to be the TV sports guy. Understand I
had no training on anything. None. I was not trained. I had
six months of junior college. And the guy looked at me and he goes,
uh, what are you nuts? This is youm Arizona. We don't
let people try out here. And for a moment, I wish your grin.
Then he looked at me and goes, if you want to be on
your on, that's all I got on TV. If you want to be
on your on, that's all I got on television. I got paid five
dollars a day, and that's what happened. Yeah, that's so I kept
moving. Look, it's just you don't nobody gets into this because they're like,
man, I really want to get rich. You know, that's just
not like you don't you just you get it because you love it. And
then well, I mean, I'm sure some people do. Some people look
at that and go listen, it's worked out, but like you don't.
You're not so like you're really making anything when you start. You got to
start the bottom. But through the journey, it's it's so much fun to
learn, and you learn in a small market. And what was amazing to
me is that you, like I always say this when you're in school,
You'll be studying something in school and you're like, man, when am I
ever going to use this? Like as I get older? Am I really
gonna need to know how to do this math equation or this or learn this
subject from history? Am I ever going to use this in my life?
And I remember early on in radio having to do everything because at those small
stites, you've got to you got to do commercials, you've got to know
how to do production, editing, run the board, all of these things.
And I remember like, in the process of doing it, going,
man, am I really ever gonna need to know how to do this?
When I And the more that you can do, the more people are likely
to hire you because you can fill more positions. And that's just the way
I always looked at it, is that you know there may be just a
part time opening here. But it's better to have one foot in than two
feet out. It's always been my philosophy. No, you're absolutely right.
I mean, you are absolutely right. And also, the more jobs you'll
learn and the more things you understand, that means at a point in time
where you may be supervising people or making decisions that impact others, you can't
be fooled, right because you would never ask anyone to do anything you haven't
done yet. You would never ask anyone to try anything that you didn't try,
and you would know the result. So I mean all of that is
valuable, and actually it's valuable in any walk of life. This thing I'm
doing in the desert, you know, I don't have a burning, undying
desire to still do television. I really don't. I've done it and it
was great and I had the best time, and I'm the luckiest guy in
the world. The billboard is sweet, by the way, but that wasn't
a real billboard that was created by sort of a news paper out here that
does everything with these caricatures. So when I came here, it wasn't about
I had to be on. It really wasn't. Because I'm blessed I'm the
luckiest guy you'll ever meet. And at my core, I'm a radio guy.
And this is what I wanted to do when I left Channel four,
but what they allowed me to do here Jonas and you you did Going Rogan
and also had a stint on The Aborted Challenge, but you did, but
you know you did Going Rogan, and those were all shows that I created,
that that I produced, And my deal in television was always I want
to produce things. I want to create things, and you know that about
me, and out here I'm given that opportunity. So I've created a news
product that kind of looks like Going Rogan for news, and I'm having a
ball doing it. We're trying things, we're experimenting. We have funny elements
in some work, some don't. It's also you get to a certain point
where what you are is what you are. And I got to a certain
point where I was like, you know what, I don't think I'm ever
going to retire. I like, I can't imagine myself just being like you
don't think I'm gonna go play around the golf today. I just I don't
have I just don't have that. I've got to be I'm like you,
I got to be doing something. Then I got to be productive. I
got to be creative. If I'm not, I feel like I'm wasting away
that part of what I love about this and just life. And you know,
I realize. I mean, it could be calling minor league games somewhere
in the middle of nowhere when i'm you know, whatever age I'm at.
But I've got to be doing something in the business. So it doesn't surprise
me. Even though maybe you don't have a burning desire to do it,
it's what you do. Fred, that's why you're the dean. Well you
know what, Well, thank you, But the thing is just fun and
that's what people, you know don't understand. And you pointed it out,
I thought, in a very articulate manner. When you do this every day,
it's fun. Every day you look forward to doing this. And we're
not all that fortunate with our jobs. We try to make the most out
of them and get the most joy we can out of them. But I
mean, Jonas is blessed. I'm fortunate, Rodney, anybody that does this
for a living, Petrose, Matt, we're really lucky. And I think
we all appreciate that because we get to do something and basically play every day.
Is it work, Sure it is. Do we invest time and effort
into trying to do the best show we can, Absolutely, But at the
end of the day, it's just it's fun. It's fun to do it,
and we're blessed and fortunate they have that opportunity. And it's fun when
you get to when you hear people that you know, Like I texted Kevin.
I was driving around on New Year's Day, I think it was,
and I heard Kevin doing a show on the radio, and I'm like,
oh, this is awesome. You know, like there's like there's too too
many people get caught up in the in the negative competitiveness of a lot of
things that either social media or the media in general have to offer. Like
I get excited when I hear people get an opportunity to do something, because
I know how excited I was when I first got an opportunity or I got
an opportunity to do something, and so I put myself in their shoes,
going that's awesome, good for them, And so you know, we just
rally around each other. Fred And that's the other thing too. You support
group here, you really do root for everybody. Yeah, really root for
everybody in the business. You want everybody to enjoy themselves and have success.
I'll raise the curtain a little bit. I have brought up I think we
should have Kevin on the air here, and I think we should have him
one more. I've had those conversations with Yeah, nobody listens to me,
but I've had those conversations because I believe that, because I believe if you
work hard, you should You've earned an opportunity to have a shot. So
I'm thrilled when Kevin does FSR the updates. We all root for each other.
We do, except there was a period of time I wasn't exactly rooting
for you. Now I'm rooting for you again. You know, I'm looking
at the timelines, Fred, and I can kind of guess when that was,
you know, I a feeling I can guess when that was h and
listen that we're here now, Hey, you know what it is, what
it is, and it was what it was, Yes it was, Fred,
Yes, it was an upward we go and only a couple of bridge
burden on the way. You know, that's all. There's who got hurt?
What the hell? Who got hurt and all of that. Certainly there
was no shrapeld. Certainly no one got hurting that. Oh man, Well,
you know, it feels like some other people got hurt, Fred,
It feels like we got some other people that got hurt. You know.
Well, you know what, everybody did what they needed to do. Everybody
had a good time and that's all that matters. Yeah, well, let's
put it like this. Everybody had a time. Yeah. Well, listen,
we're all here. We made it everybody. Yeah, So I want
to talk about this off. We're gonna have Jim Harbaugh on here his news
conference at one o'clock. Let's let's get to that in a second, Jonas.
But we got word that Anthony Davis and Lebron James are out for the
game tonight in Boston, nationally televised game and obviously an important game for the
Lakers as they continue to try to fight their way out of the malaise in
which they're in. Anthony Davis has a left hip spasm and Lebron James has
got the ankle. That could not be worse news that could not be worse
because the way the team was constructed originally, if you lost one of them
or even both of them. Given the depth of the roster, you'd be
okay because you knew those guys would come to play. But you know you
have Christian Wood textingll before games and D'Angelo Russell, would the real D'angela Russell
please stand up? And the guys that you were counting on, counting on
for depth with this roster have been a bit inconsistent, granted banged up,
yet inconsistent. And now you find yourself where you're at now. I believe
they're going to make the playoffs, play in, get in. They'll be
there, They're too good not to. But I start to have concerns now
about how deep they can go because I really thought they could make a deep
run this year. Losing a D and Lebron at the same time for a
game like this, it's kind of a double whammye and it is also not
what they need right now well. And it's also I think last year got
everybody's hopes up a little bit because we just assumed we talked about this at
the time, and I think we talked about it earlier this year, where
you didn't look at last season as a whole, you look at last season
post trade deadline as one season because post trade deadline they made the move.
They brought in you know, key elements, guys that you know performed and
contributed and made a run and were in the Western Conference Finals. And you
know, the argument for the Lakers and how close they were was yeah,
they got swept, but it was a competitive sweep. You know, they
were in those games. They had an opportunity in those games. And so
it got everybody's hopes up to where you thought, Okay, finally they found
it. They've found something. It is not at any point this year seemed
like it was on like seem like everything was right, and you can talk
about the n Season Tournament, gimmick crap all you want, whatever the NBA
tried to roll out. They won the n Season Tournament. Who cares.
An hour and a half later, Darvinham was on the hot seat, like
it doesn't like none of that even mattered. It hasn't felt right all year.
People seem frustrated players have underperformed. The guys who performed well last year
in key moments just haven't. And I just wonder if we have absolutely seen
the peak of the Lebron James era in Los Angeles because it feels like teams
around the league are getting younger and getting deeper, and the Lakers are still
relying on two of their oldest players, if not their oldest players to get
them to the Promised Land, and their bodies just can't hold up anymore.
And it's just a reality of where you get to it a certain point.
And Anthony Davis, it's the same old story with him, and I just
I wonder if we've seen the peak. And that's just that, okay,
So I got to push back a little bit, just a little bit on
it. I think Anthony Davis has had so far his best year as a
Laker. I think he has grown and matured. I think he has accepted
responsibility. I think at times he's put this team on his back. So
I think he's having a pretty good year. As for Lebron, I think
it is insane that he's playing as well as he is at his age.
And here's the thing. Anybody's going to get dinged up. Anybody can get
banged up. I guess from the opening tap on opening night. You're hurt.
It's just how much you deal with it. These two have missed fewer
games this year than it had in the past. So they're playing well.
The issue is everybody else surrounding them. That's where the problem is this year.
And I would have agreed with you if the season hadn't progressed with the
two of them playing as well as they had to this point, well as
they had played, I'd say, well, maybe that's it. But they're
playing as well as anybody in the league. Jonas, but the two of
them. But we're not even at the All Star break, and we've got
injury issues now, like we have injuries if we have, if we have,
look, Anthony Davis's injuries have been known throughout the course of his career.
Every year something pops up Lebron James since he's been to LA, like,
injuries have become a factor, Like we can just say it it doesn't
you know, and admire how he's played at this level. I agree,
Listen, it's why he's one of the top two to three players of all
time, if not number one, depending on who you're arguing with. But
if this were the end of the season, I'd be like, hey man,
look, it's the end of the year. Everybody's banged up, but
we're not even at the All Star Break, and yet here we are and
they're what how many games out of the you know, they're in the play
in spot, but they're they're the nine seeds, so they're like, what
ten and a half games. It's like, you look at it and you
go, okay, But if this is where we're at and it's just now
February, what the hell is this gonna look like in May or June,
if they even get to that point, Like, that's my concern. It's
not I don't so much have a concern about whether or not those guys can
play. I just have a concern whether or not they're gonna be available oft
enough to play. Like that's my big issue with it. Okay, And
I hear your concern, and I think Kevin looked this up a couple of
weeks ago, But this just mat now now the ankle, I don't know,
but I mean, and the hip. He's had the hip and it's
been nagging and lingering. There's a difference between guys injured and injury problems.
The Lakers have had injury problems, but it hasn't been those two guys.
Now they're hurt or now And you're right, we're not to the All Star
break. We'll see how it progresses. We'll see how it plays out.
And I guess if while they were both healthy and playing exceptionally well, if
the others had performed and they had opened up a large enough lead, you
go, well, all right, well, you know, we'll give a
blow here or there, because you know, we got to save them.
The danger here is this, You're gonna get to no man's land here at
the All Star break, and then they're gonna have to play. Yeah,
that's the danger. They're gonna have to play. And I also like how
people get hung up on well, you know, Lebron James seems really frustrated
with those around him. Why don't you copy and paste that every single year
of his career, Like every year of his career, he's frustrated with those
ad What do you mean, it's why you got like David Black got fired,
and how many coaches have been have been burned through, how many players
have gotten traded? Of course, this like that, that isn't the concern
for me. It's how this season progresses for both those guys. And to
your point, you are going to enter into no man's land and You've got
no choice but to play guys, and you're again going to have to rely
when everybody thought you were gonna get contributing pieces and contributing parts from last year
to still play at the same level. You're gonna have to rely on Lebron
James and his age and Anthony Davis and his injury history to ride them down
the stretch. And I just don't know if it's gonna happen. I don't
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Boston. I like it, Ronnie, Jonas, you rocked out to
this. It's been a long time, oh big time. By the way,
somebody's asking if you worked with Wolfman Jack on Twitter, Fred or x
whatever the hell they're calling it. Did somebody really do that? Yeah,
they asked, did you work at Arizona with Wolfman Jack? I don't know
who Wolfman Jack is? Oh my god, you don't know who that was?
Seriously? Is that the guy from teen Wolf? No, it's not
from Team that man. Was that styles the guy who, uh, you
know, what's his name around on the top of his van? No,
yeah, he served on the van. Wolfman Jack did a late night overnight
show for years. He was a top forty jock, and I mean he
was it. And it's so bizarre you would bring this up, because,
in fact, when I worked at at wolf Man Jack kind of talk like
this and he had this gravelly voice, and I mean he was as big
as starring radio as there it was back in the day. So I go
to Yuma and, uh, the program director's name is Lee Pool. Oh
waity, I know who this is. I'm sorry, Yes, I know
that. I just look at it, right, Yeah, I know.
So I go to Yuma, of course, and the program director is Lee
Pool, and he hires me to do this show from ten to three so
from like seven to midnight, eight to midnight, Uh, there was a
show on. It wasn't Wolfman Jack. It was Rufus Coyote. I swear
to god, Wolfman Jack was the guy. But in Yuma had this show
done by Rufus Coyote. So I went into Lee Pool and I said,
who is Rufus Coyote? It was Lee Poole. He changed his voice and
tried to create a Wolfman Jack character, so he would become Rufus Coyote.
So what were you, rowdy Roddy Rottweiler. I don't have my machine.
Oh it's just gonna I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this.
I want to know who's who here. Yeah, so he was Rufus Coyote,
which was an impersonation of Wolfman Jack. And that's why when you said
that, I started a laugh, because, yeah, I kind of worked
with a Wolfman Jack Schwartz. Wolfman Jack Schwartz I worked with because he was
Rufus Coyote, and he did the exact same thing, and he just changed
his voice and then one day he decided he didn't want to do that anymore.
He became Lee Poole. He just said, Ay, this is Lee
Poole, but yesterday you were Rufus coyote. He goes, you know I've
changed then he just talked like himself. It's a magical radio Fred. You
know, my first radio job, my name was they would there were so
somebody else at the station named Jonas, so I had to go. They
called me j like J Dot Knox like, well, we don't want to
confuse the listeners. And I'm looking around, going what listeners like? I
see the checks two different timeslots man like, not even not even close to
each other. But okay, so yeah, I couldn't even get my real
name the first time. It's like, of course, the only place that'll
hire me they already have a Jonas, so you know that's already occupied.
You got to pick up something else. What when you started, did you
work in music radio? No, it was I always wanted to do sports.
Sports are you know, like some sort of you know, like a
rock station if they had like an element of sports slash, you know,
like I always listened to uh, Kevin and Bean when they are out,
or I would always listen to you know, obviously I listened to to Matt
and and uh and Petros and all that. But yeah, I always wanted
to do sports, but there would be opportunities that would be out there and
I would have played. No would be interested, like you just you needed
reps, you needed And so I had to leave California to go all the
way to South Carolina in order to get a real chance. After just interning
and doing whatever I could here, my first ever assignment on the air was
with another station in town with Jeff Biggs, formerly of kla C, one
of the great people in the business, who sent me out to a Clippers
game to do call in reports from the Clippers game. And the first report
I did when I called in to give an update on the game live from
then Staples Center, was one of the worst moments in radio of all time.
I was terrible, I mean dreadful, But I realized at that time
out of the business. Well tole me that too, But I also at
that point I was so far down the path and I was stubborn. I
was like, I'm not getting out of the business. I knew, all
right, well now I know what it's like to be awful, so just
don't do that again. And so I just did the opposite of that That
was honestly my mindset, and so from there I got a little bit better
each time. So you know, you learn these things, red a few
tricks. All right, let's talk Jim Harball. One o'clock we'll have the
news conference. It was the fish that the Chargers had to catch. Yes,
it was the name they needed. They needed it for a couple of
reasons. We pointed them out here on the air. First of all,
they needed a big name coach. They need to cement or attempt to submit
a footprint here in Los Angeles. Uh And just by having good teams that
wasn't enough because the good teams kept coming up short. I think they also
had to do it because there was a question, and I can't answer this,
there was a question of their cash flow. Can they afford it.
Well, they went out and spent the money, so they can obviously somehow,
some way afford it. I think it is a game changing hire for
them. We've got to find out how the team plays. We've got to
see if it works. But Jonas, it was a game changer. And
I know you have thoughts on Jim Harball. Look, I love Jim Harbaugh.
I've always been some people call me the Harball washer. You know,
that's that's been a name that's been thrown around over my years. I always
defended Jim Harbaugh not exactly a moniker. You want. Well, you know
what, though, now that he's won a national title, I'll take it,
fred and I will wear that with like a badge of honor. But
well, becks Captain t Bag. Well, somebody's got to do it right.
Okay, you know it's just you know, it can't always be uh
you know, well, in never mind, I'll leave that for another time.
But the point is a big fan of Jim Harbaugh always like because you
look at his track record, I could understand it's worked in one place,
but it's worked everywhere, and it's worked at every level. So whether he
took over at University of San Diego, it worked, he took over Stanford,
it worked. He went to the Niners, it worked. And these
were all situations that weren't good situations. I mean when he took over for
the Niners and never one points to, well, well, how did it
finish out with San Francisco? Okay, well, he had a falling out
with the front office, Like that's why he was no longer there, like,
it's why her he burns so hot that he stays places that was always
not him for a short amount of time. But when he got to San
Francisco, man, they were talking about Alex Smith as if he was a
bust, first rent, number one overall pick. They made a mistake.
It's not working. Harbaugh got there. They were in an NFC title game
in overtime against the Giants, team that went on to beat the Patriots in
the Super Bowl that year with Alex Smith the so and so bust that nobody
could get to work as the number one pick. Colin Kaepernick took over the
next year, they ended up getting to a Super Bowl. Like he put
together a really good team and they played really really good football there. He
leaves, he goes to Michigan, they were a disaster. Takes them over.
It took a little bit of time to get over the hump in the
Big Ten against Ohio Stable. Once he got there, they were off and
running and never looked back. It's like, so it'd be one thing if
like we saw it in one spot. People are optimistic. It's like,
okay, well can he do We've seen him do it in a bunch of
different spots. So from that standpoint, love the higher, Love Jim Harbor,
and listen as somebody who grew up a Chicago Bears fan, he was
like one of the first quarterbacks I remember for the Bears, like he was
one of the first ones. Here's where I'm a little bit skeptical, where
I don't know anybody who doesn't think this is a great hire. And normally
when everybody's on one side, that's generally when things go south. I have
not met one person or heard one person say this is a bad move for
the Chargers. I don't like the move. Everybody looks at this and says
the fit justin Herbert. They had to spend the money. He brings in
a big name, you know, all the all the fun stuff that comes
along with it, the chaos, but he successed. Like I haven't heard
one argument against why this isn't a great move. He was the biggest name
on the open market. He would would have been the biggest name probably next
year on the open market. And the fact that the Chargers got him,
when everybody assumed, to your point, they're going to be cheap, They're
going to butcher this like they I don't really do. They paid the money
and here he is, and I'm just a little concerned that when we're all
over on this side, things end up going south the other way. Well,
normally, when everybody is over on one side, it's because the team
has played the name game. Oh boy, we know that guy. Let's
go get him. He's the guy. Everybody knows him, everybody wants him.
Oftentimes, the guy that everybody knows is not what he is meant to
be and does not perform at the level in what you hoped he would.
But I think in this case, because it was the name, and I'm
absolutely against the name game, but because he was the name, the biggest
name, and a guy with incredible success wherever he has been, I think
it was the right thing to do. You had to do it, like
you at this look, you're committed to Justin Herbert. Financially, he's the
guy we know that. You had to do something to try and instill some
sort of hope and optimism him in this town as the quote unquote little brother,
you know, like listen, It's why when the Clippers went out and
got Kawhi Leonard and Paul George, it was such a massive deal because the
Lakers had always been the biggest thing in town, and you looked at it
and said, well, maybe we can't get to that level of popularity,
but if we can get to that level of play on the court, that's
gonna go a long way at least. And it's like with the Chargers,
like, look, we may never get to the level of where the Rams
are at in this town, but if we can just get to the court,
like you know, he's gonna win games. I just you know,
we've seen it a lot to where everybody's on one side and then it ends
up flipping on. I'm gonna be rooting for it. I hope it works.
I love Harbaugh, as I laid out, as I mentioned, big
fan of Jim Harbaugh, and I'm just hoping that the injury issues they've had
and all the other quote unquote bad luck that has come along with the Chargers
over the past several years. And you know, never mind the fact that
you've got to deal with a dynasty in your own division, which is never
never an easy task in dealing with the Kansas City Chiefs. But if there
was somebody that could get a team over the hump and it is the biggest
name on the open market, and it just so happens to be Jim Harbaugh.
All right, So if you could pick a coach, I'll give you
two choices. Would you pick Jim or John Harbaugh? Jim and look,
John Harbaugh super Bowl champion. But I've just seen it in more places than
I have with John Harbaugh. And it's why some people will make the argument,
is it more impressive what Belichick did in New England or more impressive what
a guy like Andy Reid or Bill Parcells has done where they've won in multiple
places, where both guys have taken Super Bowls teams, different teams to Super
Bowls and won super Bowls before, Or is it more impressive to just do
it in one spot. Like all of it works, all of it is
great, But which do you side on? More? Which is more impressive?
And I just think it's a little more impressive what Jim Harbu has done
at this point. Yeah, I agree with that. I think it's much
harder to take multiple teams to a title than to be in one place.
And remember when Belichick was in one place, he went to the titles with
one quarterback. Yeah, he won with Tom Brady, So I think that
was the key for Belichick. Sure he could coach, but that was the
key. And it's interesting because now you know all the jobs are full.
Dan Quinn got the last one in Washington. You look at the coaches that
did not hook up somewhere. Belichick, Pete Carroll didn't get jobs. Rabel,
Mike Rabel's another big name, but I think he can coach, and
he's younger than the two of them. You saying agism is playing a role
in this thread? Is that what you're getting at here? You know what's
funny? And people suggest that, well, agism, I don't really buy
that now, maybe because I started when when I was twenty three, and
I'm the age I am now. I think, well, now I can
still do the same thing. I really can't, but I think differently than
I did then. I've learned more than I did then. I still have
the same energy as I did then, So I don't think that being a
certain age look to be fair. It comes down to this as a listener,
and no matter what you do or where you're at in your life,
you know there's a day, and my day is probably closer than yours.
Jonas, because I'm a little older. We hit the wall. We just
hit it. We've run as fast as we can for as long as we
can. We've given it everything we have, and you hit the wall.
Now, that doesn't mean you hit the wall. If you're sixty two or
seventy four, that doesn't mean it. But you hit it because that's just
how life works. You just can't you don't have the energy. It happens
to people and shit that because everybody gets older. So I don't think it's
a question of agism because I don't think it matters how old you are.
I mean, if you evolve and grow, you can communicate with anybody.
Right, you can be seventy two but still be able to communicate with young
players. So I just find it interesting where they go, well, he
just doesn't understand how to do that. That has passed him by. No,
what that says is he's not evolved. He's not evolved. He hasn't
got to a point where he understands he must change because life changes, and
to succeed you always must have evolve. And when you don't evolve, you've
hit the wall. I don't know whus Pete Carroll hit the wall. Has
Bill Belichick hit the wall. I say Belichick is closer to hitting the wall,
and Pete Carroll was geez fred because he seems inflexible, where Pete Carroll
may be very strong in his ways and convictions, but seems a bit more
flexible. I wonder how Pete Carroll feels about the fact that Seattle went from
having the oldest coach in the league to the youngest in like a month.
Like like, imagine dating somebody for a long time and they say, you
know, it just isn't working out anymore, and you go, okay,
I got it, and then they end up, like an hour and a
half later, was somebody half your age, literally half your age. You
would look around and go, oh, so that's what the problem was.
I was just maybe I was just too old. I wonder if Pete Carroll
looks around and goes, so, wait a second, I'm seventy two.
You hired somebody who was thirty six. This guy's younger than McVeigh, and
I've just got to be like, all right, there was nothing to it.
I just wonder how that lands with a guy like Pete Carroll, who's
uber competitive, who by the way, Pete Carroll was interested in the Chargers
job, as was everybody else, and the reports out there would say that
Ben Johnson. Mark Schlareth reported on this from Fox that Ben Johnson would have
taken the Chargers job. That's why he turned down the job in Washington that
Dan Quinn just got because the only one that he really wanted was the Charger
gig, which goes to show you the opinion of what a lot of people
have on Justin Herbert just throwing that out there, Fred, Well, that's
fair. But Ben Johnson, Jim Harball was hired, was hired, So
that's not why he turned down the Charger job. He was already hired.
I mean that. I mean that was Mark schlairth is reporting it. Look,
if you want to attack Stink like that, then you go right ahead,
Fred, I'm not Look the Desert Dean and Stink can go at it
and have a Donny Brook all they want. I'm just letting you know that's
what the report said. Well, all I'm saying is this that, uh,
I you know, agism, because we give everything labels, isn't it
isn't right. It's got an ism to it now right, it's age ism.
You're too old. I don't know if you're ever too old and if
people think you are that honestly, to me, that just is a function
of not evolving. And you know Pete Carroll's of all for a long time,
Carol was the hot ticket. Pete Carroll could communicate with his players almost
better than anyone in the day, and his players still liked them. But
maybe he did not evolve enough. Now do I think that at this point
would a team hire a seventy two year old coach? I don't know,
you know who. I think it hurts him now. By the way,
you know who just got hired. This is this is going to be a
blast from the past. He just got hired as a defensive coordinator. I
think it's division It's at a Division two school. We can look this up.
I forget which one it was. Jerry Glanville. Seriously, Jerry Glanville
just got hired as a decordinator. Who doesn't love Jerry Glanville like he had.
I forget what the detail was. But he had an obsession with Elvis
to where he would always wear black and I think he would leave two tickets
at will call for Elvis. I think you're right at every game Like that
was a real story to where he would leave tickets at will call for Elvis
every game. So if you walked up to a foul like imagine you walk
up to Dodger Stadium, you go up to will call, and you just
say, yeah, I'm here to pick up two tickets for Elvis. If
Jerry Glanville was in Dave Roberts position, two tickets would be there for you
every single Dodger game you go to. How old is Jerry Glanville now?
And he's got to be in his eighties. Jerry Glanville is eighty two years
old and was just hired as the defensive coordinator at Northwestern Oklahoma State, a
real powerhouse too. Yeah, but you know something, if he truly loves
doing it, yes, let him do it. I agree, that's great.
So yeah, Jerry Glanville is back and Elvis is alive. Yes,
Okay, we're gonna have Jim Harbaugh's news conference at one o'clock. Jerry Glanville
has to take an apple. We'd have his as well. Two years old?
What do you expect from him? I love Jerry Glenn. My best
Jerry Glanville story. Falcons are getting blown out there and he calls it.
They're getting bet like forty one to nothing, and he calls a timeout with
two seconds left and sends out the field goal unit so they don't get shut
out. All right, when we come back, let's talk to some Dodger
pitt we'll throw back Thursday action. Let's Stay Together by Al Green. Song
appeared on the seventy two album of the same name, maintained a number one
spot of the Billboard Hot one hundred charts for three weeks. In February of
that year, ranked sixtieth n Rolling Stones' list of the five hundred Greatest Songs
of All Time, selected by the Library of Congress as an addition to the
National Recording Registry, which selects recordings annually that are culturally, historically, or
esthetically significant. Again today throwback Thursday edition of Afternoon Delight Let's Stay Together by
the Reverend Al Green. Is he any relation to ac Green? I thought
it was his father? Okay, what grandfather? What abo Sean Green?
Uncle? Okay? Matter of fact? Read that Al Green, the singer
is the uncle of former Dodger Sean Green. See all ties in together?
Sure does yep? An Afternoon Delight? Yeah, Jim Harball. I wish
don right at the top of the hour, Kevin, we are okay,
so we'll make us the short segments so we can get back and break for
the top of the hour. I'll do a little Dodger pitching. So well.
I mentioned the other day Jim Paxton originally signed an eleven million dollar deal,
and uh, he was going to be that veteran arm the left hander
they bring in, by the way, I was gonna correct you, and
then I realize you're right. It's James Paxton, so you can call him
Jim. Okay, yeah, James, you know, I'm his friend.
I call him Jim. No, I'm just saying because I think some people
might confuse that with the former Chicago Bull Jim Paxson, you know, and
again that is his brother. Yeah, it's a family of fair Fred.
Yeah. Everything ties together, of course. So they realized that there were
some physical issues, and his deal went from eleven to seven million dollars and
still hell, his targets and his incentives. I think you can make up
to thirteen, but the guaranteed portion of that is now seven. All right,
Well, you know he's still there and he's gonna hit seven million bucks
and that's not that's not nothing. But all of a sudden, you sign
a guy do you think is going to perform for you? And now you've
reduced the amount of his contract and his agent of Scott Bores and he was
good with that. I don't know what that says about, you know,
how dependable he's gonna be Jonas? Yeah, why did this just come up
now? Like maybe he had a second physical or something. Yeah, that's
that's what I'm curious about, Like when when was this not seen early on?
And then you're taking a few million off the top, right, you're
right out of the gates, like, okay, well we'll still make this
work, but only for this amount, which is you know, I mean
it's nothing to scoff at. I mean, it's nothing in comparison to what
they've paid this offseason. But yeah, I just I wonder at what point
during the process they finally realized, oh, yeah, we got a problem
here and this needs to be adjusted and addressed right away. Well, it's
important at this point in time, given the offseason, the Dodgers had to
pick them apart, because that's what people need to do. They made all
of these moves they've strengthened the club dramatically. They signed Otani, they got
Yamamoto. But then that leads to, all right, well, now you
see they still have these holes to plug. You know, they did more
than anybody, more than anybody imaginaball and you don't know, all right,
well that was good. But if there is a butt, and it has
been the butt from the beginning, it's starting pitching. Yes, do you
have enough starting pitching? I think they do. Personally, I think they
do. Yeah. Look, and this is all going to come down to
the same as it's the same as last year. But the problem nobody was
surprised by whatever struggles they had or were going to have on the mound in
the postseason, like they were surprised by the bats in the postseason, most
notably Freddy Freeman and Mookie Bets. That was the real surprise. And yeah,
we're trying to find a flaw with this team because at a certain point
it's going to be kind of a redundant radio show where it's like, Hey,
the Dodgers beat so and so fifteen to four last night, you know,
show, Hey Otani did this. This is always going to be the
question mark and You've got to see how it plays out. I'm sure they'll
make a move or two at the deadline. But yeah, I look at
it and I go, it's not like they're rolling out, you know,
a bunch of dead bodies, you know, five games in a row saying
hey go give a six inning strong please? Who can get to the bullpen?
I mean, yeah, they've got guys. There's some question marks,
but that's going to be the fun part about this season. You're going to
get to learn how great this team is. The questions at the plate aren't
going to be the problem. It's going to be all the questions on the
mound. And this is just another one. It's just interesting that this wasn't
seen initially and this so now we get a monitor this as we as we
go through the entire season. Yeah, and the season starts sooner than you
think. Okay, let's take a break right now because we do have to
get back for the top of the Jim Harball news conference one o'clock, Chargers
introduced. Harrball will be taking copious notes. Look forward to some of the
things he has to say. Let's keep track of it.