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How well mediated it remained involuntary.
I' m sorry I' m late,

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but I went on an artistic tour
and was late. Everything, everything

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moved, everything collapsed. But we' re here to talk about Diacklight closes

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mother, I think. And what
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at last, Ahorita, we are
going to talk with Paco and Carlos Andrés

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so that we see what we have
to each other to talk to and talk

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to you. Well, then we
start. You' re hearing involuntary stay

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with Fausto Ponce already scolded me Carlos
Andés Mandiol and I got even better intensely.

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Well, this is Carasolés. Manuela
is also with Marie Empaco Marine.

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How are you? I put you
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' clock and like a champion,
like a coma show, he' s

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here. How are you doing,
hi, pau well and you okay?

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All right. I apologized to the
people that Carlos Andés gave me late.

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How are you doing hello a paus
very well and you hello, good night

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paco, there you are. We
know the wind god was making it difficult

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for you to come back, but
you' re here. You saw two

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intensely or who both. I bought
my ticket weeks ago because I couldn'

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t miss it in the movie.
I didn' t see it before because

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you don' t hear what you
saw page or well, rather, let

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' s start with you what you
want to talk to people, because it

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' s good that before we talk
about intensely two that I also saw as

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a very, very big recommendation.
It' s a series that sadly loves

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a prime, doesn' t start
to give it much publicity even after,

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after last week' s premiere,
last week' s day, which is

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I have to die every night,
which is precisely based on the chronicle of

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Gabriel Osorno, of a book homonymous
that speaks of underground life, of the

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eighties, of a chronicle of homosexual
life and of the bars s Underground in

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Mexico City, like the nine,
which is an iconic gay bar here,

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in Mexico City. And this series
began to be made for moul Plus really

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at the time. And when mont
disappears, Amazon Time absorbs it. And

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that' s why because it kind
of doesn' t have like the prime

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thrust it had maybe like the Pacues
Tandle series and other productions that are like

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prime originals. However, this series
is a great, great adaptation of the

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chronicle, although in the book that
the same thing, I highly recommend that

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it is a fundamental piece of literature
for all chroniclers who interest them as something

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of Mexico City. It is also
a must read, but good is a

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chronicle as such and that rescues many
in memories, fragments and passages of lives

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from real people of the city,
from figures very important to the LGBT community.

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Also good the series, because as
such it will not be a literal

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adaptation of these chronicles, but it
borrows from them to create a story or

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try to show these moments within that
of this, of this time in Mexico

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City, in the eighties that,
let us remember, not really there were

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still many moments and no matter how
there still are. However, bridges were

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much more present, the, the, the, the homophobia and the way

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in which, since many bars and
night spots, which, as they were

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meeting places, were closed by the
police, simply for being or harboring people

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of sexual diversity. And let'
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AIDS pandemic in its time, let' s see how different figures, also

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of the important spectacle, frequented in
these places and we see how, because

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they had a certain relationship in management
so that they could be there. Not

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then is a series very well done, It is more Mexican, besides that

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it seems to me that it is
the first LGBT series of good production here

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in our country, that is to
say that they have a very well done

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production. If the budget comes it
was not immense he directs it to Ernesto

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Contreras and Alejandro Zuno in different chapters, both Mexican film directors, recognized,

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Alejandro as I have a pleasure to
meet him and now you will tell because

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he is a well- known director
here in our country, and both direct

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this series very well that they are
adapting. The aesthetics they have is extremely

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vibrant, very interesting, already of
many on, although perhaps it will not

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be like the faithful portrait eight whole, if it gets very close. Ay

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many elements of costumes, recreation and
others of this time. And that seems

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extremely valuable to me, because it' s really possible to prove these elements

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and I thought that was great.
The cast is wonderful. They are all

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really very well between them, as
there are several names not as well known

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as David Montal Te Toledano, who
are the protagonists. There are others that

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are better known, such as Silvia
Navarro, like Humberto Busto, like Roberto

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duartes of Alexander Cats priy Zefe,
which is also some of the rooms in

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the series. Here he also has
an important role in the series. But,

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well, it' s a cast
where there are all kinds of actors

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and I think it' s a
good mix. It really works out very

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well and the story, because it
is interesting, especially, well, I

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think that right now we are in
June in the LGBT Pride Metro, a

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month in which, because we have
also witnessed many setbacks and many signs of

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new account of our country in different
parts. And we have also witnessed many

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advances, such as therapy, in
the therapy of the prohibition of conversion caps

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in Mexico, which we are among
the countries that have been banned at last

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in many in the world, because
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take part in our history. As
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a fiction as such, the book
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and is a fundamental feast and the
literature of GIS in our country, then

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it is a very well done series. If you intend to know or really

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encounter a little more about what the
life of sexual diversity or political life was

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like or how many things were handled
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good approach. If you like the
series, what it' s called read,

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it' s created by the series
surely and what it' s called.

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So, then, and it'
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because, as I told you,
it doesn' t really appear even in

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the dick' s main search bar. We know that it is not a

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portal that has not been characterized by
being the most friendly or by being the

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most able to sell the best idea. But, because this as that had

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original of them, they have not
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' t expect this to change a
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has been strong on social media.
So, I hope that will help you

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a lot. It really is why
it has reached many more people in this

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series that is really worth a lot
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and so does Tordo. In many
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Yes and not much journeys. What
else I had crossings, because I

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bumped into you, crossed, passed
another magazine and then I was there and

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I was working where to go and
in Chilango I was Camarena, Salvador,

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Camarena and suddenly I was invited a
little more on channel 22. I was

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vita imagine those two like that with
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frangopota, lithic, and he goes
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weird, but well, he was
like the little boy and a lot of

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people. Then part of them would
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' t know where he was.
I don' t think they even said

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anything. I' m telling you, I' ve placed it quite a

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bit and it' s a very
interesting guy. He hears great recommendation Pac

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and above all, if he'
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has to be seen now. They' re going to catch up with him

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very much for many reasons, but, well, sometimes it comes in that

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they have to reach him. No, well, hey, I was going

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to tell them that fast because I
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I don' t know if they
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because it' s, well,
very revealing and gives you see it and

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then we comment. If you want
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it' s worth talking about later. Once we saw spaceon musk worth the

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pain is more, I won'
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see it and the next time we
comment because it' s worth it.

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I think there' s suddenly one
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that he does recognize, but there' s another side that doesn' t

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recognize everything and it' s interesting
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Kevin Space. Better worth it,
then we' ll talk about it later

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and well, Carlos in three.
Mendiola intensely two how you lived it as

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life saw intensely, very intensely fause, for I was already very much to

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see it that, besides, I
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wasn' t even out It was
practically full. People applauded at the end

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of the film that is already like
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now a little bit of all teenage
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adults, say, but young.
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that peace is very good. I
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I like it very much. It
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movies, very smart, very well
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well. After all it was basically, I' m not gonna spoil,

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don' t worry, but we
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old, so she' s just
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gonna get her teens. You all
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like this moment where she' s
doing really well in hockey, she and

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her best friends are invited to a
hockey camp and on the way she finds

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out that her friends and she are
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by some situation. Obviously, that
gives him a crisis. But also,

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when you get there, because you
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the star of hockey and then you
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full girls let' s say with
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that is, let' s say, what happens outside Riley and inside Riley,

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because there is a whole remodeling because, because adolescence is coming to him.

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That' s what you see a
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well, because in principle you get
anxiety. How not then with all their

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briefcases and so on and then they
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And but it is like but as
or less and has some special participations a

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cameo us so and then, we
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of these new emotions, as above
all anxiety that, because, obviously,

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it is very anxious And because it
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the objective of anxiety is similar to
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is not tangible, that is not
physical, And then it helps him as

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to foresee this future and to avoid
him, since tragic situations future. No

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And obviously, there is a clash
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his fan and anxiety and we will
see what will be happening in the approach.

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We also discover, for example,
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the mind or in this Riley space
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is Ranche' s identity, which
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Obviously, there is a struggle between
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then settle down to belong to some
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expectations of others. No, and
from there a great adventure is made that

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leads us to know a little bit
because how it is an anxiety attack,

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maybe or why it would happen,
or also what are the repressed emotions and

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other issues that we can have repressed
out there. And well, the truth

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is that the fantastic pass seemed to
me to be a new account, as

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well thought out in this balance,
of what emotions do, how emotions have

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to complement each other. I love
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talk a lot about anxiety, but
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as something negative. Let' s
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film also very well, as happened
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you need to. That anxiety is
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function. Everything is as in this
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the task that corresponds to each one. So I really like that again,

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like that change is this catalyst that, because it puts everything there in crisis,

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although of course, on this occasion, yes, anxiety has a role,

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because more antagonistic in the beginning and
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seeing this internal struggle with is very
funny. It has great moments, great

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stitches to laugh at you, not
literally gibberish, and then it has other

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moments very very emotional, because it
already depends on how sensitive you are,

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but if you are like a tear, you did not identify yourself in adolescence

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there are moments of riley that you
say I am there oh, yes,

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of course, I think we will
all mortify in many, besides that already

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everyone can identify with their main emotion. I said I' m this one,

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yes, I totally identify myself.
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and yeah, I mean, yeah. I' m good, plus,

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there' s your test out there
that you can do. Then I confirmed

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my result, but you' re
having a great time. I mean,

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I think it makes a few weeks
ago we were just talking about what it

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' s like to date people to
go to the movies and what you need

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is something like this, not that
it' s a movie that feels like

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an event, that feels like something
you can' t let go of,

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and that besides, nothing else feels
like that, but that when you go

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it happens, you say, I
just had a really bad time. I

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want to talk about this movie.
I lived a range of incredible emotions.

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It leaves me with things to think
about, it leaves me with things that

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make me understand me better or maybe
others. Besides, it' s a

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movie that I' ve already written
down, as you see again, because

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there are more things we need to
understand in this movie. I mean,

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super recommended. Hey, well,
all right. There is our review of

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the review that the mendera andres are
all intensely left over. Gabriel nothing faster

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to narrow this down. Gabriel loves
the phrase in the movie one where Furia

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tells him happy that they offer Riley
pizza with broccoli in San Francisco and then

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what it' s called good anger
or not angry says happiness of San Francisco,

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you ruined pizza and ga to see
him tired Faz. He loves the

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fascination that some broccoli is retaken here. Also very well, there are great

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phrases, three great moments. Tan
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tell us pen. I know only
Carlos Andres apologize. Tell me, tell

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me here what you thought of his
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won' t even like it.
Paco. Please, you take me mad.

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No. I think so. I
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I feel them a little bit,
like toy story two in terms of

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sequel to pixzar, as much as
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and these characters feel like a good
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fit in, like they know how
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looks a little ambitious, that is, if there' s something I think

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I could like criticize it, that' s what they do, like they

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really want to show. Well this
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stay a little bit on the surface
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of do. On the first one. What I really liked was the way

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the mind was very explored and I
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much more about the way in which
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way in which these emotions, therefore, also have their role within a whole

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that is, because the mind does
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the emotional part, that it is
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do start as looking for the whole
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more than a mere pretext to a
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they started just counting now yes as
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if they were also having their own
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start to say that I feel that
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did miss as from the first part, which I think is what made this

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big and I expected a little bit
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I think it' s good,
I think it works very well. I

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think it' s also kind of
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the characters that used to be there
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new ones also have their time to
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example, this movie is much better
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a more elaborate way, that is, jokes like they do have a little

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more wit. For me, nostalgia
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just going out and it' s
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think spoilers, they don' t
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mean, I was going out and
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and I kept laughing about it.
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thought out and I think that'
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the most in this part of humor, animation, because we already know that

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pixar does very well and looks very
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lets us see the little new.
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as I told you in this part, it may be the film a little

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ambitious in which, because we don' t see much new from the mind

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as such, but we stay as
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are are very well designed. I
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the way in which it is posed, the way in which it is

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also drawn and represented, is very
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the film like a good sequel,
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a whole story and two that doesn' t compare or good and I can

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' t compare it to the first
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film, maybe to make it fire
a bombshell, but to whom I intensely

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believe it does, that is,
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very important place within Pixtal. I
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it won' t have the same
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' s one of the film OK, I really like it. I want

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to see that and I' ll
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my girls, then I' ll
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because it' s also a thermometer. Sometimes, if they stop,

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I know more or less how you
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they stay stuck all the time.
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How movies work with children hear.
Well, that' s all to finish

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this show. Guys, Tim Kazu, tip doesn' t give what Angel

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Aguilar has, we temples aren'
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Tikkasukazu, I believe we go Kazu, because I like him and everything has

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good cazuta. But Tim, Angela, I mean, why you' re

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attacking her and you tell her or
you' re, Tim' s giving

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us the house. I was going
to say that I' m kim They

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time them clear, they do,
yes, yes, you Paco have to

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make a decision. Tim Pepe eagle
you live live in Japan. I was

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moving the truth out of my sight. I mean, yeah, it'

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s kind of unbelieving to see all
of what people are really starting to put

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into it. I couldn' t, I couldn' t with those laughs

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It' s not like the poor
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In Japan everyone dompepe is getting their
rochor breaks something that happened back the nodal

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novel dance the soon assures there will
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has a few years others in mix
clear. Yes, yes, yes,

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I subscribe, I subscribe, I
subscribe a series in big Well, listen

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here I was seeing that interview of
the micha to so much at the moment

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key fite, for I leave you, because if you dare do not palatique

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you Right now, I come and
you already went by faus this advance And

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so you will already tell us what
will happen. But then you were telling

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me you' re a long-
time paco eagle. Yeah, I mean,

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I wasn' t really very soaked
with all this gossip and all the

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novel around Nodal and his angel.
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couple of threads on Twitter, obviously
to understand a little bit of what was

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going on, because, well,
it was the trend and you looked like

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all the tops and memes, so, they were that. But then nothing

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more like it. As I pepe
a guitar and terrate it in Japan,

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I as well as thinking about something
else and I am asked to appear milium

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publications on memes of this. And
so, after the fan of his relationship

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that has become a viral meme that
Angela is at the time, he put

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in an Instagram post, as well
as a comment on the case photo and

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as a fan of his relationship.
And it' s already been done as

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a picture of a couple that you
want as if you' re a third

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party in discord or you' re
going to break up. So, then,

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fan of his reflections, leave a
while ago one of the Virgin Mary

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and Saint Jos as is funny.
That' s funny. That' s

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already a lot of fan of your
relationship. It' s a lot of

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fun. Quickly Adela interviewed Carin Leon
and I hadn' t seen him,

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that is, in an interview.
How interesting, that is, he knows

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a lot and he handles many genres, that is, he knows a lot

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of things, he likes a lot
of things very interesting then, if they

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have not been able to listen to
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is happening with the theme of the
Mexican regional and the theme of the lying

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runs. Let' s see if
I' ll bring my brother Quín over

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later to talk a little bit,
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summer. And so, of course, I think that in the family,

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because you listen to rock and other
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that he went to see Anodali,
that he was surprised, that he brings

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some very good musicians and that it
is a very good show. And it

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' s really amazing. Or what
is happening with Mexican music right now all

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over the world, that is,
it is worth knowing and we have the

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prejudices that it is music, because
this chafa and it is not like we

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pelluse it and suddenly it is because
here he lives rock ets. Rock is

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supposedly more tall, has more status
than other kinds of genres. And right

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now, because rock is heard by
very few people, and here, in

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Mexico, it' s practically dead
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people who lie down from the kicker
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Then it is interesting everything that is
happening with music, also with odal

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and extramusically also a little, because
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this poor Kazu and Angela are also
getting the htbal no. But of her

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you did pimeias, as Carlos says, which is the most ironic of hers.

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There' s the hetche' s. Yes, yes, as always,

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as always, but well, very
well. Thank you guys for seeing

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Paco, thank you very much.
Carlos would sleep on me and I told

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you quick, Paco, he'
s gone. We' ll always be

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there. Paco is a warrior.
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you very much, Paco, thank you

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and in life and in the right
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