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Hi everyone, I'm Talia and I'm
Tanya, and together we are Crimes and

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Consequences, a true crime podcast.
Hi Taliah, how are you today?

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I'm splendid. That's good. Thank
you for asking. How are you?

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I'm doing pretty good? Really?
Yeah, you know, I'd like to

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welcome everyone back to another episode of
Crimes and Consequences. Or maybe this is

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your first time watching us on YouTube
on the True Crime Daily YouTube channel,

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But either way, well, welcome, welcome. Are you ready for some

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true crime? I can never get
enough true crime? Well, this is

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an older story, you know,
I love I love the old ones.

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Yeah. I love the old ones
because they're crazy and people do weird shit

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and it's fascinating. Yeah. I
don't know why. I just like them.

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So have you ever heard of John
George Haig? No? All right,

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well I'm gonna tell you all about
him. Horrible? Oh yeah,

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he's horrible. Is this gruesome?
It's a little gruesome, absolutely, because

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we have a gruesome scale. Yes, what would it be on their scale?

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It's pretty high up there because he's
nasty. Eight yeah, probably at

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eight eight nine eight nine, eight
and a half eight and a half.

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Okay, okay, And we in
case you guys don't know, we like

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to drop a bombs a lot,
and we're not actually that politically correct.

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We try, but we do,
do we. I don't know, I

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don't know, all right, let's
chat. So John George Haig. He

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was born to parents. His dad's
name was John Robert and his mom was

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Emily. He was born July twenty
fourth, nineteen oh nine in Stamford,

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Lincolnshire, England, Lincolnshire. I
don't know, I don't know. You

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know, we mispronounce everything, we
always do. It's fine, it's it's

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fine. You don't want to pronounce
it either unless you live there. It

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is so. They had been married
for eleven years before John was born,

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and he was their only child.
John's father worked in a coal mine as

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a foreman, and his mom was
a stay at home mother and homemaker.

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John Robert and Emily were members of
the Plymouth Brethren, which is a very

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old school, very conservative, very
religious, very anti modern Protestant religious school.

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What the hell is that? Well, I mean, I got an

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idea. They promoted a very secluded
and strict way of life. Oh shit,

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so John wasn't allowed to socialize with
other children his age. The Haigue

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family did not like the outside world, the modern world, and they how

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modern was it? It's like nineteen
o nine for dad's sakes, I know,

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right. They didn't want the outside
world coming in, so they built

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a ten foot tall fence all around
their home so that nobody could see them,

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and they couldn't see anyone. So
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It's like a prisoner. Yeah,
absolutely. And because of this, he

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taught himself to play the piano.
He got pretty good at it. I

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mean, what else is he gonna
do? There's no TV. I mean

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this was and you, I mean
I could possibly be well, yeah,

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it had to be horrible. Religion, obviously, was the most important thing

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to the Hague family, and John's
parents often told him religious stories or parables,

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and if he ever misbehaved, his
father would say to him, quote,

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do not grieve the lord behaving.
So end quote. So he's always

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you know, do not grieve the
lord behavings. So what does that mean,

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Like, don't do that to upset
the Lord? Okay, if you

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ever wanted to go out and try
to meet a friend, as dad would

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say, it wouldn't please the Lord. His father had like one of these

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religious I'll give you an example.
His father had like a blue colored birthmark

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on his forehead and it happened to
be shaped kind of like a distorted cross.

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And he told John that he had
been branded by Satan as a sort

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of punishment for his past sins and
in discretions. I don't even know what

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to say about that. He also
told his son that if he committed sins

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that he was going to be branded
like in the same fashion. So this

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kept John in Lyne up to a
point. He decided to put this theory

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of being branded though to the task
of me. He's a kid. He's

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like, let's see if this really
works. So he played pranks on people,

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and he committed minor crimes, and
then when he looked in the mirror,

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I saw he wasn't branded, Like
hey, yeah, He was like,

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no, I guess I can do
whatever I want and not have any

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consequences to it. He then noticed
that his mother didn't have a mark on

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her forehead, and when he asked
Emily about it, she told him,

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well, she couldn't be branded because
she was an angel. That was gonna

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say, I would say that I
didn't do anything. I didn't do anything

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right, So and guess what happened. John later found out that that blue

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mark that distorted cross was actually caused
from a flying piece of coal and the

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coal mine when his dad was down
there working. So it wasn't from Satan.

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No surprise, surprise, it wasn't
from Satan. John's father was constantly

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preoccupied with dying and the afterlife,
and he would like by God to take

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him like he just wanted to go
to heaven really bad. He hated life.

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Yeah, he just wanted like that. Yeah, he wanted to meet

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He wanted to go to heaven.
He considered it a sin to be happy

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with the world that you were living
in. I guess she needed to be

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miserable in order to earn your spot
in heaven. I don't know, I'm

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gonna end up getting there real quick
then. Regardless though of their religious beliefs

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and John's eventual criminal cases, John
was incredibly loved by his parents, and

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they never turn their back on him
or disowned him, even though I'm gonna

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tell you these horrible, horrible crimes
that he did. So they didn't like

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whip him in the name of God
or not. He loved him, and

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you know they had high hopes for
him that he would make something of his

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life. Oh remember told you,
like he wasn't allowed to do anything like

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in the modern world or whatever.
He wasn't allowed to take pardon any secular

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secular activities and secular as like non
religious like boy Scouts or whatever, nineteen

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twenty or whatever. We're exactly,
he said. The best my rais of

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his childhood where when he would go
visit his maternal aunt. Because when he

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got out he could read the newspaper. He was exposed to other things he

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loved to see, like the comic
strip in the newspaper. I mean,

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I'm sure it was a prone,
right, I mean I liked it when

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I was young. Yeah, but
I don't have the Internet. There's no

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Instagram with Facebook exactly. And when
he came back home and asked his dad,

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why why don't we get the newspaper? As dad said out, you

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know, it's a thing of the
world. It's evil. You know,

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you need to read your Bible instead. If you've got time to read the

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newspaper. You have time to read
your Bible, and that's really what you

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should be focusing on. Okay,
So during his childhood, John got really

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good at stealing. He had plenty
of practice at the local candy shop.

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How'd you get out to get candy? I don't know. Maybe you had

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to run errands. I'm thinking for
like his parents, and you know,

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maybe go to the store and he's
rebelling, he's gonna he's tested the sin

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theory exactly, passed it. Yeah, and he passed it and he's not

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getting caught. When he was stealing
things at the candy shop, he's like,

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oh, I can you know.
He had this attitude like I can

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do whatever I want, and he
would kind of like his friends would help

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him at the candy store too,
so like they would distract the shop owner

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and he would just steal candy and
conspirators. Yeah exactly, candy shop exactly.

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So they had this whole like little
you know, scheme going on.

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Yeah, yeah, to reprise the
candy store. In addition to thievery,

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John learned how to forge documents at
an early age. Yeah, he practiced

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forgery in school. What he would
he would write school reports in a school

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record, like in the headmaster's writing. So he learned the headmaster's writing,

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and so he faked his grades.
I mean, wow, I faked my

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grades too, way back when I
don't even I don't know what to say

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about that. I didn't know that
it is handwritten stuff. You could be

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so disappointed in you though, you
could fake him so smart, you didn't

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have bad grades? You yes,
geometry. Oh you're talking to high school.

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I mean, I have to fake
them in college. Now, I

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didn't do it. I faked him
in high school, and I did get

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busted because they would send the report
card home and it would have your last

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semester's grades on it. Yea,
And yeah, yeah, I got an

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idiot. What can I say?
I was probably like fifteen. I mean,

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well, you know I didn't get
away with it. So he's practicing

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forgery his you know, he's got
this headmaster's writing under you know, he's

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got it down pat and not surprising. His teachers described him as mischievous,

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and he did do well in school, but he hated going to school because

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he hated the idea of having to
like put the work in to get the

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good grades. He just wanted like
things to come easy to him. Yeah,

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he he wanted to cut corners in
any way that he possibly could.

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He finished school at the age of
seventeen, and he became an apprentice to

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a firm of engineers and they worked
on vehicles like this is when cars I

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think are new. So they the
engineers would work on the motors and things

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like that. And John really loved
cars. But you know, he loved

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looking at them and riding in them. But he yeah, working and getting

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dirty, like eating, like the
oil and the grease that came with the

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job of working on the engines.
So due to this dislike, he chose

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to wear gloves to avoid getting his
hands dirty. Well, it doesn't made

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fun of, I mean, because
he was like real men, you know,

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get their hands right right, go
home with dirty fingernails. That ship,

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right, He's made fun of and
but that didn't stop him from doing

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it. But it did cause him
to quit that job early in the apprentice

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in the apprentice ship because he wore
gloves and was made fun of. Yeah,

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he stay their boy a year and
then he left to take a job

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selling insurance, oh, in advertisements. When he was twenty one, he

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was fired and that's because his boss
suspected him of stealing money from the cash

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box. Like probably was, Oh, he definitely probably was, And because

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of that they had him arrested.
Oh good. He was later released and

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never charged. And he wasn't charged
because his father paid the amount that was

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stolen. Oh yeah, And but
he's a big disappointment to his parents.

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He's the only child. Yeah,
I mean sending all over the place exactly.

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They I'm sure they were devastated.
You know, they just wanted a

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godly child, right. But regardless, this is when his criminal career began

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to take off because he got away
with this. I think of all the

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candy and now he's stealing money.
Yeah, stealing money, got away with

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him things in between. Oh,
I'm sure still hasn't been branded by Satan.

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Nope, he still hasn't been into
by Satan. So he's going to

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keep doing it, keep going man. On July sixth, nineteen thirty four,

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John got married to a woman named
Betty Hammer. She was twenty one

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and I'm guessing he's about twenty five. And she was described as a good

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time girl. What whatever that means? Oh yeah, I'm just saying I

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don't know. I don't know.
I don't know her. Yes, his

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parents obviously disliked her and John Robert
Dumbley. They did allow Betty and John

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to live with them though when they
first got married, even though they really

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didn't like her. They thought,
you know, she's just running around doing

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whatever. They thought that her religious
views were the same as theirs, but

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they soon found out it was very
different, very very different. According to

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the Haigs, Betty lacked both morals
and religion. She never had a job,

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and she stopped going to school when
she finished elementary school because her plan

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was just to marry rich. Oh
well, then why did she marry this

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guy? Okay, I don't know. She figured I don't need an education.

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I'm going to find a rich man
or just a man right to support

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her. She grew up in a
very poverty stricken, very large family,

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and both her parents had to work, and you know, it was uncommon

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for both parents work. Yeah,
they rarely worked out. Women rarely worked

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outside the home. Neither of John's
nor Beatty's parents attended their their wedding,

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and the reason behind it was because
neither side of the family was even informed

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that the wedding was going to take
place. So no, save the dates

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went out. I guess John seemed
like a very good husband like to Betty,

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but that would shortly come to an
end. The idea of working under

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someone of authority really didn't appeal to
John much. Where he were going now,

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well, he just he just started
his own business so that way he

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wouldn't have to work for someone,
and he could also do his crime shit.

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Because he was like, yeah,
our crime shit and do our crime

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shit, don't have to work for
somebody. Yeah, that's totally get it,

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totally get it. But this one
he was forging vehicle documentation, So

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he's putting those skills to work,
all right, And he made good money

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and Betty loved that. But she
later admitted, you know, she had

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no clue of what he was doing
to get that money. Like the crime

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shit, you know, the job
he said he was doing, you know,

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would never make that much money,
and I'm not sure exactly what it

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was. Yeah, she was just
clueless. He later start care just bringing

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in that paycheck right in the cash
exactly, That's all she really cared about.

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John later said that he didn't marry
Betty out of love. He married

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her because his home life was not
something he could tolerate alone anymore. Oh,

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just kind of, And the consummation
of the marriage was what John really

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looked forward to. I'm I'm sure, why didn't you just move out?

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Why did he have to live with
his parents if he didn't stand there?

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Maybe he's like twenty something years old. I don't know, Lily didn't move

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out? Did job move out?
Maybe? Yeah? And he wanted to

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get laid yes, and he's getting
laid in his parents house though, well

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that have you not? I never
mind going to answer that. Yeah,

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I'm not keep going so surely after
starting this new business, he was arrested,

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charged and sentenced to fifteen months in
jail. Betty followed him in the

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patrol car back to the police station
when he got arrested, and when she

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arrived, he was already behind bars. John said to her, Oh,

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it's nothing, darling. I've only
broken the eleventh commandment, which he said

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was thou shalt not be found out. I'm sorry. I do like that.

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I know, don't get caught,
don't get caught, not be found

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out. That should not be found
out a commandment. He was only in

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jail for five months after getting married, so Betty decided this would be a

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good time to separate herself from him. She left because he ain't making no

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money, right, No money's coming
in. She's living with these highly religious

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people and she's not of the same
thing, so she's like to get out

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here. In prison, John seemed
to enjoy himself, yeah, because he

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was now part of the outside world, something he had never really been a

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part of. Ok but he's actually
ironically in an inside world, I know,

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right, inside world in the outside
world. Right, what is that?

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The upside down and what is that? It just seems odd, but

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Okay. He worked as a tailor
when he was in jail. Yeah.

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Prison, he's got to be in
jail, right, Yeah, probably in

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jail. Yeah. And he would
write to his parents about how good he

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was at being a tailor, and
then if he started his own business,

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he was going to be best Taylor
out there brought his adult life. John

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kept a very superficial relationship with his
parents, kept his distance. I mean,

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he's doing things that they don't approve
of, clearly. Yeah. And

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he did tell his parents at one
point that he didn't tend to repair his

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reputation and you know, I'm gonna
get my morals bank country, right right,

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you know, when I get out
of jail changed, Yeah, this

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is all going to change. But
as we're soon going to find out,

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Yeah, that was bullshit. And
what's the name of this. Oh,

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the name of this is the acid
bath murderer. Okay, so he changed.

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Oh yeah, he changed for the
worse. Once he was finally released,

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and he got out due to good
behavior, he got out early.

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John learned that his parents had moved
from their city and his wife left him,

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and his wife left him, and
you know, originally his parents said,

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well, we moved because his father
had retired from the coal mines.

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But they were embarrassed. Yeah,
I'm guessing. Yeah, they got out

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because they tarnished their names exactly exactly. You know, they just couldn't stay

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in that town anymore. And he
had disgraced them. But he really didn't

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care, you know, And he
really didn't care about Betty leaving him,

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because no, because he didn't care. No, he didn't care about Betty

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leaving him. But while he was
in prison, she gave birth to a

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baby girl. Oh and she named
the baby girl Pauline Mary. After giving

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birth, though, she stayed with
the Haig family, but struggled to make

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ends meet, and she eventually put
Pauline up for adoption, all while he

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was in jail. Well, he
was in five months after hearing about the

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birth of his daughter. John didn't
get that chance to meet Pauline, but

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he really didn't put any effort into
seeing her before she was put up for

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adoption. You know, I mean
times of change. You can't really be

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married to have a baby and just
place your child for adoption and the husband

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has no say right, no,
then we've done adopt adoptions attorneys, but

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we won't talk about that. And
he actually denied that he was even Pauline's

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father, So okay, here we
go exactly. So maybe he just didn't

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care. In case you haven't realized
it, John's really self centered. No,

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he's shallow. And after Betty moved
out of the hay come, John

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and she only saw each other once
and it was an accident. They ran

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into each other while they were both
just walking down the street like they wanted

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aw awkward. John's like, hey, how are you doing? And Buddy

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says, you know what, I
didn't want anything to do with you,

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like leave me alone. So then
John went on to insult her by saying

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that, you know, we were
never even legally married and I have another

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wife actually, which is bullshit.
But he's trying to say like their marriage

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wasn't valid, and so Betty threw
her wedding ring away. But she felt

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relieved. She was like, good, he's out of my life and whatever.

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She went on to marry a man
named Adam. But she never divorced

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John officially, but married officially or
whatever. I mean. It was largely

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frowned upon back then for a woman
to get divorced, and the process was

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really expensive, so she just never
bothered. Her second husband was killed while

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overseas in World War Two. There's
this bad luck. Yeah, but she

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got remarried again to a man named
Dennis, and I don't know what happened

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to her. They lived happily ever
after, hopefully. Upon his release from

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jail, John started a dry cleaning
business with a friend. His name was

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Major Plackett, Like his name was
major. His name was Major. Major

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had defended John during his trial in
nineteen thirty four, and he was friends

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with John's father like a lawyer defended
them no like to other people. Oh

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oh yeah. Since John had a
lot of experience working as a tailor,

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are well locked up? Like I
told you this dry cleaning business perfect.

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Yeah, they figured it was going
to be a success. Yeah, and

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the business did take off. It
was booming until Major was killed tragically in

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a car accident, and John didn't
really want to put in the work right

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to run a business, so he
shut it down. And Major's widow was

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given the option like, well,
you can take it and continue on the

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dry cleaning business. She didn't want
to do that. I'm sure it was

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a ton of work. Yeah,
I mean no. So now John's going

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to figure out how to make some
money. Well, I think he's figured

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that out already before exactly. So
we're gonna go to a life of swindling

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people, right, swindling, swindler, the scammer, oh yeah, scamm

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artist you know. And that time
when he was in jail, he got

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out on good behavior, so he
didn't even service full sentence. So he's

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like, I'm just gonna startling ship
and swindling. Yeah, there's really no

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consequences of crimes, and consequences are
but do you know if I go to

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jail, it's probably not going to
be long. I'll just be good and

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you know, I'll get out.
So he figures there's got to be this

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easier way. Yeah, you know, I don't have to toil away at

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some office or toil away at my
own business. So we're gonna do this.

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And he decided he was going to
go after older, rich women.

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Oh he's a jigglow. Yeah,
kind of sort of looks like Clark Gable.

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You know what, Clark Gable.
He was handsome. Yeah, he

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was handsome, like John's kind of
like the Wish version of Clark Gable,

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or like the Dollars store version of
Clark Gable. I mean you'll see a

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picture here, You'll see a picture, yea engineering Clark Gable like Clark Gable

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was much more. No, but
he was kind of like that, like

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you, a mustache and dark hair
and sort of it. I could see

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maybe how women would find him attractive. Okay, Oh what are you trying

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to say. I'm just saying maybe, maybe, maybe. Before I tell

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you more, we're going to take
a break. John moved to London in

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nineteen thirty six, and he was
able to get a job as a chauffeur

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for a high rolling amusement park owning
family known as the mc swains or mic

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swans, I'm sorry, mc swains
mixed swans and John became close with William

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mc swan, so their son.
The downside, you know, is that

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he actually had to do work,
damn it, you know. There again,

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I know. But he was around
rich people, so that was the

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upside. He was originally employed at
the amusement park for a few months in

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nineteen thirty seven. And while he
was employed doing that, like before he

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started doing the chauffeuring and stuff like
that, he was able to persuade William

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to install jukeboxes in the arcades.
High technology. Yeah, and then what

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they did was they hired a lot
of pretty women, okay, to lure

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young men into the arcade to spend
money, like on the jukebox. Yeah

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really, I know. I mean
there's not a lot of entertainments back then.

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Wow, I know. Genius exactly, I guess. So so fucking

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weird. Yeah, he was posing
while he's doing this, he's posing as

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a lawyer. As a lawyer,
he's got all kinds of ship going.

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I read it every day. So
do you I'm a lawyer and I'm actually

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a lawyer. Yes, me too. So he's posing as a lawyer named

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William Adamson, and he's selling fake
stock shares. When lawyers sell shares,

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trusting, right, you say,
I'm a lawyer, and people trust you.

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They think you're like smarmy as lawyer. They trust you any lawyers because

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you know, you know too many
of them. He was caught, Okay,

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so he's selling these fake stock shares. He got caught because one of

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his clients noticed that he misspelled Guildford, which is where he said his office

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was allegedly located, like on his
letterhead. It was misspelled. And that's

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how he got caught being a dumbass. Stupid spelling must say. When people

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get cut, they open their mouth
and their dumb asses, you know,

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you just shut your mouth. The
smallest little mistakes people get caught in,

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right, And that's a good thing, I guess. So he ended up

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going to prison for four years,
four years broad charges. Yeah, and

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when he got out it was right
at the beginning of World War two and

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after his second release in August of
nineteen forty. So this is you know,

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he had the first jail term,
so this is the month and now

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he's doing four years. Yeah,
and from then on he realized, like

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I don't want I don't want to
go back. I don't want to go

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back. I don't want to Plus, I really don't want to have a

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legit job. He decides he's going
to still do crime, but he's just

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gonna be a lot more careful.
Okay at it, Okay, okay,

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it's gonna get better at it.
Gotta get better at it. When he

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was in prison that time, he
spent a lot of time researching and studying

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a French murderer who got rid of
his victims in a really really grewesome way.

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If you say an acid bath.
Yep, he said, this is

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going to make the perfect murder.
Except if he's reading about someone doing that,

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doesn't it mean that person probably got
caught. I'm just pointing that out,

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just right. Yeah, you're right, it's what he What he read

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was, so you dissolve these corpses
in acid. You know, that's what

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you get rid of your witnesses,
you get rid of the victims. So

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easy. Sounds so easy? I
mean, really, could it be easy?

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So he decided to like test out. So he's out of prison,

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He's gonna get some acid. He's
going to test out, Like, how

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long does it really take to dissolve, like not a human being. But

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he what he did was he experimented
on mice first. So he's literally at

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this time willing and able to kill
as long as he can get away with

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it. As long as he can
get away with it. I don't think

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he killed anyone before this. I
think really it was just fraud and thievery

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and you know those types like property
crimes and whatever. So but he's quite

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a jump. He's going to make
quite the jump. He made these test

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runs, he caught mice. The
test results came back, and he discovered

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that acid can make the body of
a mouse completely disintegrate in thirty minutes.

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Oh so there was nothing left once
you put a mouse. But a mouse

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is very small, very small,
really long time for a human. I

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mean, I don't know, I
don't know. I'm just guessing basics exactly.

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He has to set up what he's
going to do, right, He's

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got to set up his criminal scheme. So when he gets out of prison,

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he gets a job, a legit
job as a as an accountant and

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an engineering from an accountant. I
don't know, how do people get jobs.

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You just already did prison for four
years I don't need for fraud.

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Why would you make someone your accountant
who would be prison Well, they don't

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know, right, You didn't really
look anyone a lawyer too, is a

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lawyer. Yeah, he's a fantastic
guy, right. He One night after

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getting out of work, he ran
into his old friend William mcswan. They're

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shooting shit at the bar. William
brought us over his parents, who were

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Donald and Amy mick swan, and
introduced them. William bragged about how great

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it was, you know, working
for his parents as a landlord, because

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William managed some properties at the mc
swan's own, like some beautiful properties,

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like all over London because they own
an amusement park two. Right, Yeah,

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they got a lot of money.
And after hearing this, you know,

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John's perking up because he's like,
oh, they've got some money,

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right, And he is checking him
out and they're dressed really nice, and

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he starts to get a little jealous, thinking, you know, they're rich

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and they have this wonderful lifestyle.
After John and William were done catching up

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at the pub, John invited William
into his basement of where he was living.

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But what William didn't know was that
John was about to kill him.

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Hey, Johnny, want to come
from my base. I don't know what

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he said to him to entice them
to get down there, because he needs

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to try out this acid bath,
right, he needs to see if it

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really works. So, once John
and William were in the basement, John

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took a lead pipe and he bashed
William over the head with it. Oh

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shit, Yeah, And once he
knew that William was dead, he placed

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William's dead body into a forty five
gallon metal drum that was filled with sulphuric

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acid. Honey, not like I'm
just curious. It's gonna seem so random,

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but like you're dealing with all this
asida and I accidentally like burn yourself.

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I can't even I don't know.
I can't bleach my clothes without getting

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like bleach it. Like, oh, I know, I've never say problem.

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Well, I don't know how to. I don't know. Yeah,

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And isn't that a little suspicious?
I just need a whole bunch of acids?

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Acid? You might even even had
more? Who knows? Puts William?

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He puts William in the drum.
I was wondering how a drum doesn't

408
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:38.759
dissolve either, But that's another question. That's chemistry, right, I don't

409
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:42.559
know. I never was good at
I loved chemistry, but I don't know

410
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:47.720
anyway, I don't know. After
two days, John came back to check

411
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:52.400
on the progress, and when he
checked, he saw that William's body was

412
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:59.519
almost almost fully dissolved. The results
now were sufficient enough for John to dump

413
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:02.559
the remains down a manhole like I
don't know, I don't want to know

414
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:07.440
what the remain, what the condition
was, but it was enough where they

415
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:12.000
were probably unrecognizable and he could just
dump the liquid into the sewer. Well,

416
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.880
how do you even get that?
You got? How you like?

417
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.440
You have forty five gallons? Have
you moving that? He filled with acid?

418
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.200
Explained that to me. He got
a dolly out and he was his

419
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:27.920
ascid too. Though, no,
no, there's there's nobody's nobody noticed,

420
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:32.599
Nobody said shit. I mean,
it's crazy. I know, I'll guess

421
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:33.920
what. There's a will there's a
way. But he's in London. There

422
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:38.039
should be tons of people around,
right, I guess not all right.

423
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:45.519
William's parents now realize that their son
is missing. They ran into John said,

424
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.240
hey, have you seen William?
Nope? No, no, no,

425
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.720
he made up some bullshit, and
he said, well, William was

426
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:57.880
actually he took off to Scotland because
he's trying to avoid the draft. Because

427
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:01.599
world was johns hold the parents.
Yeah, okay, that's what John told

428
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:05.480
the mc swans. He said,
well, you know, he ran off

429
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.880
to Scotland because he's trying to avoid
the draft. He doesn't want to get

430
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.000
drafted into the army. And so
they're like okay, and they didn't he

431
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:15.839
didn't tell his parents, but he
told John. Yeah, right, Yeah,

432
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:17.319
he didn't tell his parents. He
just took off, right, and

433
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:22.920
only told John. At this point, John pretty much takes William's place in

434
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:29.039
the family. Yes, he began
living with Donald and Amy. He worked

435
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.519
for them, collecting the rents on
their propertis William since will Is gone,

436
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:36.680
Yeah, we need someone to fill
in. Let me fill in. Yeah,

437
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:37.839
and you know, come on,
you can move into our mansion,

438
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:44.559
which I'm sure they had. Once
the war was over and William hadn't returned

439
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:49.119
back to his family. This is
when Donald and Amy became concerned. Ay,

440
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.920
something's fucked up. Yeah, but
I'm surprised, like they didn't get

441
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.880
a letter, right, you would
think like your son would write to them.

442
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.400
I don't know he was a false
name and write a letter, ye

443
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:04.000
say, hey, well yeah,
but anyway, Donald and Amy kept asking

444
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:09.039
about William. John knew, okay, something has to happen. So on

445
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:16.039
July second, nineteen forty five,
John Lord Donald and Amy to the exact

446
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:22.920
same basement where he had lured William. He enticed them by telling them William

447
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:28.799
had returned for a surprise visit and
that he was waiting for them in the

448
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:34.519
basement. Don't go to your parents'
house. Makes sense, fucking sense?

449
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.759
Yeah. Well, they fell for
it. They were so excited by the

450
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:43.880
idea of seeing William again. They
they just followed whatever John wanted them.

451
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.519
He was good at manipulating, obviously, he's a scammer. Yeah. And

452
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:51.920
when they got into the basement,
he bludgeoned them to death with the same

453
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:58.319
metal pipe, and he threw their
bodies into drums filled with sophuric acid.

454
00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.359
But wasn't finished with the mc swain. I'm sorry keep saying that, miss

455
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:07.320
Swan, Swan, I'm sorry.
There's no eye in their name. Swan.

456
00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:13.079
My bad. He posed his William
and forged signatures, which gave him

457
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:20.280
power attorney to steal the MC Swain's. They did it again, the mc

458
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:30.280
swans Swans Swans. He then sold
their properties for eight thousand pounds sterling,

459
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.199
which is the equivalent to a little
over ten thousand dollars today. It's not

460
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.199
that Oh no, that was a
little over ten thousand dollars then. Now

461
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:42.639
today it's worth one hundred and sixty
nine five hundred and five dollars. Okay,

462
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:45.960
don't get me wrong, I would
like that amount of money, but

463
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:50.880
I'm just saying I would think they'd
be right. This was a lot of

464
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.280
money for post war Britain. Yeah, and he used the money to move

465
00:34:53.360 --> 00:35:00.599
into the Onslow Court Hotel, which
is in South Kensington. I guess this

466
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.960
was a really like swanky hotel,
like you know, we're rich. People

467
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:08.159
all stayed and he stayed there like
as a tenet. So he just kind

468
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:14.320
of moved into a hotel because he
had the money to spend. But it

469
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.960
only lasted that money, that one
hundred and sixty nine thousand dollars only lasted

470
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:22.079
him for two years until he made
the last two years. Yeah, and

471
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.199
what did he do with their bodies? Like how long did what happened?

472
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:27.880
Like how long he dissolved? I
don't know how long it took, but

473
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.679
it had to have taken just a
few days. And he dumped him in

474
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:37.360
the same way. Yeah, what
he did with William h fucking gross.

475
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:42.920
It's terrible. John had a severe
gambling addiction. Of course he did,

476
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:45.920
and that's one of the other reasons
why he pissed through that money so fast.

477
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.599
And now he needed more money.
Well, what's he gonna do.

478
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:54.880
Well, he decides he's gonna get
some new victims. Of course. John

479
00:35:54.920 --> 00:36:00.960
met doctor Archibald Henderson and his wife
Rose one day. He was pretending to

480
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.920
be interested in the house that they
were selling. They have their house up

481
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:07.719
for sale, and he always dressed
really nicely, so of course they have

482
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:13.639
a beautiful home. He shows up
and he looks like he's a serious spuyer

483
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:19.599
for their house. Rose really liked
John because he loved classical music. He

484
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.960
could play the piano. He probably
bullshitted that they probably a piano. He

485
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.400
rebably sat down and played the piano
for them, and they were just like,

486
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:31.320
oh, he's a lovely person.
And she invited him to come back

487
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:37.079
to their house to perform at their
housewarming party for their you know, when

488
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.199
they sell the house and when they
move into their new house, like,

489
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:44.639
come to our housewarming party, you
can play the piano. While he was

490
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:51.760
at their new home, John stole
doctor Henderson's revolver and he uses it later

491
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:57.000
spoiler alert everyone, he's not using
it. Yeah, it's not just loving

492
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:02.840
the body yet. Okay, yes, but John cited that his basement different

493
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:07.719
place. Yeah you know, we
still had the basement and had the hotel.

494
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.039
Yeah yeah, and you know it
kind of reminded me. Did you

495
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:14.719
watch Breaking Bad? Of course they
had the whole lot. Yeah, yeah,

496
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.519
yes, yes, I've seen.
He's like, okay, I can't

497
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:23.079
do this anymore in this basement.
So he decided to relocate his murder drums,

498
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:27.760
these metal drums to a small workshop
that he run it out, and

499
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:32.239
that was in West Sussex. On
February twelfth, nineteen forty eight, John

500
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.440
drove doctor Henderson to his workshop.
They told him, I'm working on a

501
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:42.039
new invention and I really want you
to see it. But doctor Henderson's like

502
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:46.320
sure. They walk into the workshop
and John shot doctor Henderson in the head.

503
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:52.440
Soon after they entered the workshop,
you know, no hesitation. John

504
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:58.920
then called Rose and said you need
to come immediately because your husband, Doctor

505
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:02.239
Henderson's gotten really sick and he needs
your help. So Rose rushed over and

506
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:06.760
when she got into the workshop,
she shot her immediately in the head,

507
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:12.159
killing her as well. He then
forged their signatures on a letter that gave

508
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.599
him power of attorney. Of course, still forged and ship left and right,

509
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:17.800
you know back then, dis like, what'd you say forty eight?

510
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:22.280
Yeah, it's probably nineteen forty eight, right, nobody checks, nobody knows.

511
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:28.559
This allowed him to sell all of
their possessions. He got about the

512
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:32.920
same amount of money that he received
when he sold the Mixedwan's property. Does

513
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:38.079
it really work putting bodies and acid? God, this is a lot of

514
00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:42.000
work. Is it really that hard
to just go to work, go to

515
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:47.880
a job instead of like killing people
and putting them in drones thinking the fumes.

516
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.760
I don't know. I don't have
a lot of spuric acid. But

517
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.280
I'm just thinking a basement, I
know, writing in it in and it

518
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:57.800
seems a lot of a lot of
work. I guess, I don't know.

519
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:04.960
It would apparently has no conscience either, Clearly that was established. Where's

520
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:09.360
these swindling women? Oh, it
comes right, hold tight. John sold

521
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:15.119
everything but their car and their dog, and he kept those for himself.

522
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:21.639
Lucky dog. Yeah, he loved
still loved cars and dogs, and he

523
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.239
refused to get dirty. So for
each murder he committed, he threw on

524
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:30.480
rubber gloves, a rubber apron,
rubber boots, and a gas mask and

525
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.320
he used that when he poured the
acid. Okay, okay, yeah he

526
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:38.039
was. Yeah, you were worried
about his clothes. He wouldn't mess up

527
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:44.719
his nice clothes. He had this
rubber apron and you can you can imagine

528
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:52.800
when you dissolve someone in acid.
Yes, there is an intense heat.

529
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:58.239
Yeah, that would make sense.
That raid by the reaction that human flesh,

530
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:00.840
you know, to acid, and
that's what smells the bones. All

531
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:07.280
right, chemistry Clay, Sure I
did, No, I didn't, Okay,

532
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:10.000
So it's just you know, liquefied
yeah, I okay, Yeah,

533
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:15.920
it's nice. He has killed now
five people, in case you weren't counting.

534
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:20.719
He was just feeling invincible. As
you can imagine. She feels fucking

535
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:24.840
gross. Yeah, he got away
with these. Nobody suspected anything. He's

536
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:30.760
got money, and so he needed
to update his acid bath workshop to a

537
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:36.880
full on warehouse. In this warehouse
would be the spot where his sixth and

538
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:42.039
final victim would meet her fate.
John was still residing at this hotel,

539
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.360
this Onslow Court Hotel, and one
of his neighbors was sixty nine year old

540
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:52.960
Olive Durand Deacon. She caught his
eye. Olive was very wealthy. She

541
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:58.920
was a widow, that's yeah,
of a big time lawyer named John durand

542
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:04.400
Deacon. John needed to create a
new facade to get Olive's attention, so

543
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.079
he posed as an engineer. You
know, he's going to talk himself up

544
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:12.079
and impress her. They spoke for
a while about his engineering career before she

545
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:16.320
told him she had an idea to
make artificial fingernails. So I'm thinking maybe

546
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:20.519
there were no press on nails back
then. Oh she had this idea,

547
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:23.159
right wow. She little did she
know she'd make a ton of money now.

548
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:28.639
She kind of thought of herself as
an inventor and she was really excited

549
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.599
because she thought that John would be
able to help her with this new invention,

550
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:36.880
him being an engineer, right of
course. Absolutely, He's like,

551
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.719
oh, absolutely, absolutely, I
can help you with this new invention.

552
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:46.159
But we have to go back to
our my warehouse because that's where all the

553
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:52.800
work gets done right. John invited
Olive over to the new warehouse, and

554
00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:55.119
once they were inside, he shot
her in the back of the neck with

555
00:41:55.159 --> 00:42:00.079
the revolver he had stolen from the
Henderson's. John then robbed her of all

556
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:04.320
her jewelry that she had on and
she had a fur coat before he submerged

557
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:09.199
her body in the drum filled with
sulfuric acid. Olive was a well known

558
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:15.000
person around the hotel, though,
so she her disappearance was. Oh,

559
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:19.559
it was immediately noticed, like when
she didn't show up for breakfast the other

560
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.840
residents, where's Alive? Yeah,
where's Olave? Fuck is alla? So

561
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.559
he ended up making a bad I
mean, not that they all aren't bad

562
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:34.239
choices, but this one was like
somebody actually like noticed right away when her

563
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.960
When her neighbors noticed that she wasn't
there, they asked John where she was,

564
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:40.719
and he lied and he said that
Olive had plans. Him and Olive

565
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.760
had plans to meet up later in
the day, but she never showed up

566
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.559
and I don't know where so was
he dating her? I don't know,

567
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:52.280
It's kind of unclear, kind of
I think they more had a business relationship.

568
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:58.760
When Olive was still missing. The
following day, it became obvious that

569
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.800
something was serious, really wrong.
John had to keep to himself from being

570
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:07.840
suspected, so he just acted like
a concerned neighbor, you know. He

571
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:12.719
just started asking around too, like
have you have you heard? Have you

572
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:16.199
heard from Olive? You know,
he's asking all the other residents if anybody's

573
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:21.840
heard from her. And he volunteered
to even tag along with the police.

574
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.719
Hey, oh, you know,
we hear about that all the time himself

575
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:30.920
involved in the investigation exactly. But
when he got to the station, like

576
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:37.119
the police station, an officer whose
name was Sergeant Lamborne, he really got

577
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.800
a weird feeling. Bet I bet
you're getting weird fucking feeling around John.

578
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:47.960
I'm gonna listen to your intuition guessing. The next day, Sergeant Lamborn phoned

579
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.639
Scotland Yard, like their record office, and he found out all about John's

580
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:58.440
past criminal history. That same day, John made the drive over to the

581
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:07.079
warehouse to empty out alice acid drum
because that's time too. He's got I

582
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.000
know, he's got it empty out
like her melted body. And he kind

583
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.239
of fucked up because he poured some
of it on the ground outside like it

584
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.719
was just kind of man the man
hole, the man hole, and there's

585
00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:24.400
some hour on the what I know, and be careful, Jo, be

586
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:28.639
careful, John, don't don't mess
it up. At this point too,

587
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.239
he hadn't made any money off of
Olive's murder yet, just some fur,

588
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.679
a cult and some jewelry. Yeah, so he made his way over to

589
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:38.639
a pawn shop to have the jewelry
of praise. He made about one hundred

590
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:44.639
and ten pounds off of her belongings, which was about twenty three hundred dollars

591
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.480
in our money. When I get
back to the hotel, there's a group

592
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:53.079
of officers waiting for him and John. Yeah, because he you know,

593
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.880
they knew who he was, because
he had gone to the police station.

594
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.559
And John didn't change his story.
He told them the exact same story he

595
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:02.000
told the neighbors, like we were
supposed to meet up Olive and I had

596
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:07.000
plays and then she didn't show and
I don't know, I don't know,

597
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:13.480
I don't know, John. John
ended up dumping Olive's remains outside the warehouse

598
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:19.559
because there was no sewage drain or
manhole access like the other places where he

599
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.440
was like remembers telling you was pouring
them down Doctor Henderson. There, yeah,

600
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.880
this was this was that new warehouse. This was brand new. Doctor.

601
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:30.440
He didn't think this out very well, and he didn't what was he

602
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:37.280
thinking here? Where was he just
dumped her remains like on the grass out

603
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.719
back? Yeah? I still want
to know how he's moving these drums around.

604
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.559
But that's fine. He was forced
to dump her remains into a pile

605
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:50.199
of debris right outside the warehouse,
so he realized he really didn't do much

606
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.679
to hide it. He don't give
a fuck now, no, And he

607
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.320
did tell police officers he was supposed
to meet her at the warehouse. So

608
00:45:55.320 --> 00:46:00.159
of course they show up. It's
the stupidest day thing now. Oh,

609
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.880
so the cops show up. Of
course they did, looking around, like

610
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:07.280
trying to find Olive. They're missing
widow. What a dumbass. And while

611
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:12.559
there they find the receipt for the
fur coat that he pawned, and they

612
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:17.480
found a piece of her foot.
They found human body. Fair Oh that

613
00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:23.000
didn't dissolve all the way quickly.
I mean think that and that, but

614
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:28.119
you think we dissolved faster than bones
or something. I don't know. And

615
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:31.760
they also found dentures that were confirmed
to be Olive's. Upon this discovery,

616
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:37.960
John was immediately rested. Those poor
police officers IgE minding that ship. You

617
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:40.840
know what, they don't pay enough. They don't pay them, they don't

618
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:45.599
pay them enough. No, he
pleaded insanity because you know, it is

619
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:50.320
kind of fucked up to dissolve people's
bodies and drums of acid. But there's

620
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:53.159
a difference between mental illness and crazy, and so he's just crazy, yeah,

621
00:46:54.400 --> 00:47:00.639
exactly, fucking nuts exactly. He
tried to make himself look even crazier

622
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:05.800
by telling investigators that he drank the
blood of his victims and because I you

623
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:07.039
know, he said, because I
drank the blood. It really kind of

624
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.800
just fucked up my brain. Have
you get to the point, John,

625
00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:15.880
you're drinking the blood? I know. And even though he said this,

626
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:17.360
there was never any proof that he
actually did it. I'm just letting you

627
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:22.239
all know, I think it.
I think you just said it to appear

628
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:28.679
a little more crazy, just a
switch more right. Took a cherry on

629
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.880
top. Yeah, what the fuck
is that? Literally at cherry on top

630
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:39.079
of the crazy Sunday. Okay,
that's good crazy Sunday Like that. He

631
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:45.119
was questioned by Detective Inspector Albert Webb. While he was being questioned, he

632
00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:50.239
asked, what are my chances?
You know they're they're gonna send me the

633
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.760
crazy hospital? What are any chances
that I'm going to get released like you

634
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.440
should have been? He would want
the crazy hospital? Yeah, I would

635
00:47:55.480 --> 00:48:00.119
think so, right, because that's
where he'll go instead of prison. So

636
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.719
do I have any chance of being
released? Was anybody ever released? Oh?

637
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:09.840
John, you'res and it was a
high security psychiatric hospital. And Inspector

638
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:15.280
Webb told him, I really can't
say, and John replied by saying,

639
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:17.239
well, if I told you the
truth, you wouldn't believe me. It

640
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:24.239
sounds too fantastic to believe. He
then proceeded to confess everything to detective inspect

641
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:31.159
Yeah. He confessed to killing Olive, William Donald and Amy mcswan, and

642
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:37.760
to killing the Henderson's. John also
elaborated some and told the officers that he

643
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:43.360
killed three more people, a little
boy named Max What, a little girl

644
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:49.719
who lived in Eastbourne, and a
woman who lived in Hammersmith. And although

645
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:53.920
he confessed to these additional three murders, none of them have ever been confirmed

646
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.239
that he did this. Why would
he kill a kid? But how would

647
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.760
he benefit from that? I don't
know, maybe to appear even crazier,

648
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.159
more insane. I don't know.
Okay, he didn't. Thinking he's just

649
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:06.599
making that up. Yeah, I'm
thinking he just made it up because there's

650
00:49:06.599 --> 00:49:10.960
no confirmation that he ever did those
crimes. His trial began July nineteenth,

651
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.039
nineteen forty nine, and it finished
the next day. It was a quick

652
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:21.960
ass trial. Most is longer than
that. He pleaded not guilty by reason

653
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.679
of insanity, and he told the
chord of his vampire like tendencies, you

654
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:30.679
know, allegedly drinking the blood.
He went on to say he definitely had

655
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.599
a reason to kill. His childhood
dreams were completely controlled by blood. You

656
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.079
know, he's just trying to hype
up. Okay, so what does he

657
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:49.440
get? He sorry, that's okay, death. No, he the trial

658
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:54.719
over. It takes the jury fifteen
minutes to find him guilty. Guilty,

659
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:58.559
and after the verdice was read,
the judges john, is there anything he

660
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:01.039
wanted to say for himself? He
said, no, nothing at all.

661
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:07.519
He was unsentenced to be executed via
hanging. Yeah. Yeah, while he

662
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.800
was waiting. I know they should
have right. While he was awaiting his

663
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:15.599
execution in Wandsworth Prison, He thought
it would be fun to give the execution

664
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.519
a test friend, so he asked
one of the guards if he could have

665
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:24.000
this trial run to ensure that death
would come. The day he made it

666
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:29.000
to the gallows, like made sure
everything would go smoothly and okay, okay,

667
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.320
good, it was denying. In
the meantime, he spoke with a

668
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:36.280
newspaper that financed his trial and told
them his whole life story. He wrote

669
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:39.360
letters to his girlfriend because he had
a girlfriend at the time, Barbara Stevens,

670
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:45.000
and his parents since they didn't come
to see him before they was hanging.

671
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:50.599
Well, yeah, he mixed feelings
if I was dumb, Yeah,

672
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:53.880
I know. Before the hanging,
he was fitted for a death mask courtesy

673
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:59.800
of Madam two Sods, and on
August tenth, nineteen forty nine, the

674
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:05.719
acid bath killer finally paid for his
crimes. Yeah. The letter that he

675
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:09.039
wrote to Barbara was found and it
read I'm gonna end our episode with this

676
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:14.480
quote. It is difficult to say
farewell under these circumstances, but you will

677
00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:19.039
understand that you will always be in
my thoughts. You know, I've been

678
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:22.440
proud of our association. It has
always been an honorable one. I shall

679
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:28.559
remember your great kindness and devotion.
Now I must leave you. End quote.

680
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:31.920
How fucking sweet. You know what
a bizarre little letter be like?

681
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:37.679
No, no, was probably like. So that's my episode about the acid

682
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.599
bath murderer. It's so gross.
I think you hear this. It is

683
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:45.840
gross. I can't even imagine being
real, Like, how gross. I

684
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:52.559
know those police officers show up and
there's goo in the grass. Stop stop?

685
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:59.480
Thank you. Very human behavior and
being in sensitive. Yeah, we

686
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:01.360
are being in sense, but we
did more people were not all that politically

687
00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:06.079
correct, but right right was.
It was a tragedy. It's very sad

688
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:10.760
and he just did it without indiscriminately
and he's an asshole and we hate him.

689
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:15.199
Put him on the I Hate him
list. Well, thanks to Leo,

690
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:20.400
Well thanks Tanya, and thank everyone
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691
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:27.840
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692
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693
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694
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:40.760
yes, their audio on our Apple
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695
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:45.679
can advertise, Yeah, I think
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696
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:49.079
I don't know. I'm telling you
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697
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698
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699
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700
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701
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702
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703
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704
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705
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706
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707
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